Muse

Just try to be your normal humorous self, okay? The guy you were before the tailspin. Do you remember that guy? People love that guy. And don't forget, your novel is coming out in the fall. Oh, really? How exciting. What's it called? Come here, Moss. Do not sabotage me. If you want to be a f***ing lightweight, then that's your call. But do not sabotage me. Oh, aye, aye, Captain. You got it. And if they want to drink Merlot, we're drinking Merlot. No, if anybody orders Merlot, I'm leaving. I am not drinking any Merlot! Okay, okay, relax, Miles. No Merlot. Do not drink too much. Do you hear me? I don't want you passing out or going to the dark side. No going to the dark side. Okay! Just bring your Xanax. T-B-T-M.

Guess what day it is?

guess what day it is it's friday friday gotta get down on friday everybody's looking forward

to the weekend this show really improves with age why because the jokes get better no because

my hearing gets worse here i had a bottle of vodka he had a bottle of vodka but anyway we were drinking vodka and i was i was so happy that i found someone who would drink vodka with me you Hey, Johnny.

Oh, hi, Danny. What's wrong with Mark? He's cranky today.

All right, let's toss the ball around.

A lot of times what we like to tell people is that you have to let life bounce off of you. Yep. Right. And so we are going to do just that literally in the literal sense.

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

That was the fanciest sentence I've ever heard. And I used to watch Frasier.

My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Coming to you from the Nest Broadcast Center, perched high in the sky above Portland, Oregon, where it is. Well, it's a beautiful day as I record this for all of you. I don't know what the day that this is released, Friday, the 17th of September. I can't speak for what's happening in Portland because as you're hearing this, I'm probably on an airplane somewhere. circling San Antonio, Texas. Hopefully we're not circling too much. Hope that we just fly there and then we land. And then I get to go to an Airbnb in Texas Hill Country. That's what I'm hoping happens. I'm also hoping you enjoy this episode. It's 3,513 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. We've got breaking Jeopardy-related news.

Never let me slip, because if I slip, then I'm slipping.

Involving more host announcements For that program They're bringing Michael Richards on Kramer from Seinfeld In a twist I gotta be honest I did not see coming We'll tell you what they're really doing Coming up in just a few moments And then A story that I have been promoting I think This might be the fourth show in a row Where I have promised we were going to talk About this weird story out of the elizabeth holmes trial and now we know you're good at lying i have now in in promoting this story about a guy who is lying i have now myself become a liar as they say you know if you wear the mask long enough it begins to fit uh so we will as god is my witness we will get to that story uh today or die trying let's hope we just get to the story uh also people in minnesota who have beloved trees in their backyard, bonsai trees to be precise are coming out in the morning to find that they've been stolen This is why I can't have nice things There is a quote in this article about bonsai tree theft that is a surprisingly emotional moment related to these trees. That's the saddest thing I've ever heard So we'll get into that too We'll do all that with the help of this young man the longest running co-bro of the show maybe best known for his depictions of the Tall Ships. He is Andrew.

Hey, Hermano.

Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Hello, my friend. Hey, Luke.

You know, I pretty much make it a rule not to drink while recording myself on this show and others. We've been doing a lot of TBTLs together over the years, and there have been times I know like I recorded segments on a weekend when we'd been drinking together, but it's not like I'm just sitting here doing this show enjoying alcoholic beverages but I will admit to you right now that I am ingesting a little bit of alcohol here I hope that's okay I hope this doesn't get me fired hope I don't

I hope I don't get drunk on the air and say anything that I regret. But what I have here is a – well, what I have in my life, Luke, is an over-packed freezer. We were talking about this on the show a couple of days ago.

It's not easy being drunk all the time.

And I – what does he say?

I drink and I know things. It's not easy being drunk all the time. Everyone would do it if it were easy.

I believe he also says I drink and I know things.

Yeah. I miss Tyrion. I drink and I don't know things. One for two there. Anyway, somebody. So your freezer is, your freezer is overflowing. Genevieve had a party earlier this summer. I thought she bought these things, but now I realize these are from Kirk. These are from Costco. These are Kirkland ready to freeze strawberry freeze. Like they're like tasty pops or whatever. What did you call them growing up? The little plastic sleeves.

We called them otter pops. Yeah. Or. Yeah, I think otter pops were the big brand when I was growing up.

And so, you know what? I'll bet you Camaro Kev and Anita brought these over, but they brought over a big bag of these things. They are 100 calories per stick, 8% alcohol by volume. Wow. My flavor is strawberry. I think maybe I already said that. And my goal, while Genevieve is out of town for a couple of days, is to eat as many of these as possible, mostly to make room in the freezer, but also because Andy likes, I think White Claw just changed me. Andy now likes a sweet little treat with some booze in it.

So I'm doing this feeling an effect. Now, I've already mentioned, but we're this is Friday's show, but we're recording it on Thursday afternoon because I'm going to be on airplanes tomorrow. Are you I mean, is it are you feeling the effects? Are you feeling buzzed?

I mean, I don't think so. I do have some things I'd like to get off my chest. Pardon me. It's got a kick, man.

Apparently, I think it would be funny if there was actually something that we could say that would get us fired. Because if they haven't fired us yet, when most of every episode is us complaining about not being mentioned in a press release or having to do a minimal amount of corporate training, if that hasn't gotten us fired, I wonder what you could say that would actually get us fired.

Yes, or me just ranting. I went on a rare Andrew Walsh rant yesterday on the show that I'm not feeling. Oh, come on.

First of all, I started that because we were talking about Nicki Minaj. and uh and and her anti-vax tweet and uh i mean i don't know that like i said we try not to go on rants on this show but also we live in the real world and sometimes we you know sometimes we gotta let off some steam i don't think you said anything regrettable i don't know i didn't

like my tone um let me can we talk i'm not sure if this is a conversation you want to have on the air um can we talk a little bit about this training that i just went through and more specifically i want to know what it means for you but if this conversation is going to get you in trouble

we cannot have it on the air you are so drunk right now i am i am i just had you are hell bent on getting me in trouble because you're you're you're hepped up on goofballs i am

you're just absolutely tiny bites of this thing one of which um made me cough my apologies it does have a it does have a little bite to it i would say i like it it's a little tart it's not

just sweet luke it's a sweet tart flavor so you uh just got done i guess we are just gonna talk about training again uh you just got done doing a uh another round of training i believe if i understand it right this is training that is focused on uh you know diversity and inclusion

specifically yeah explicitly implicit bias weirdly that i'd say explicitly implicit um is the name of the show explicitly implicit could you write that down i like that i'm too drunk to write right now obviously um i love this not only am i going to start drinking on the job i'm going to use it as an excuse to do less work so this is this this was it explicitly implicit but um this is another training that way to take um you know from the hr department in american public media looking at implicit bias i think implicit bias is a serious thing honestly so i'm not going to go on i'm not going to go on a spoof here and i'm not going to go and i'm not going to break down i'm not going to review the process that i just went through but i will say this Usually when we take these kinds of trainings, whether it's an HR training or a, you know, an IT security training. Social engineering. What is it exactly? And how does it work? Usually when we take them, it is like do it on your own time. Here is a, you know, it's a video thing that you have to click through and they find ways to force you to pay attention. At the end, you get a certificate. Usually takes between one and two hours. But you do it whenever you have time to do it. This was a little bit old school and reminded me of like actually, you know, being an internal employee at some place.

where this was actually like a session that was led by a real human being, somebody in human resources. And I was, you know, on a call, a Zoom call with, I'm going to say, maybe 20 to 30 of my colleagues, many of whom I had not met before. And it lasted about 45 minutes, maybe closer to an hour. It was fine. There was a breakout session. It was fine. But it is unusual to have these things in person now and the question i have and this is where i'm potentially getting you in trouble or blowing up your spot and i honestly don't want to do that i'm maybe gonna find a way to edit this out if you don't want to go here luke but um i don't believe you signed up for this and since it's not something that you can just do on your own time what's that no there's a whole bunch that you can sign up for but i think we might be getting near the end of like that you could sign up for various sessions that happen at various times of day but you know only Some of them were good for West Coast and then our schedule because we record in the mornings. I don't know how many sessions are left to sign up for, but maybe not tons. And I was wondering, like, kind of like, how are they going to enforce this? And here's the here's the spoiler. At the end, they flash up one of those QR codes and use that QR code to go to a little like kind of a quick survey that basically is just an attendance thing. It's just like, yes, I was here. here's all of my information and you still got that uh qr code the problem is i don't think i took a photo of it i just you know they threw it up on the screen and then i used my phone to get there right and so i'm a little and i was thinking of you at the time and i would i mean i mean i would i i mean i don't want to say anything on the show that i will regret obviously i'm already half half in the bag three sheets yeah three ice sticks to the wind i was drunk i drank i eat popsicles that was all i drank but i'm just a little bit i i just i am wondering what the repercussions may be if you do not um if you do not complete this because this is unlike anything

that you and i have faced before it's not yeah it's not just a digital file waiting for me to slog through it uh i guess my thought was i am just the worst employee but i guess my thought was when it becomes critical i'll get an email from our supervisor saying hey there's only one of these left and i just got a note that you haven't signed up for any of them and you got to do it on this day and then i'll just do it this week has been uh i mean not now that sounds like i'm making excuses like this has just been a really intense week for me with work stuff other stuff outside of tbtl so i like legitimately have not really had the time this week to like 45 minutes but i just i guess i figured to tomorrow maybe when i was like sitting in an airport which is when everyone's actually hearing this um i just figured i would get i just figured i would figure it out the way i always do but i know what you're saying which is if the meetings are done then what are they going to do like hire this person to like give me one-on-one training actually it'd probably be good for me actually probably get more out of it uh with the special attention as a part as as opposed to being in a larger group environment where maybe i zone out a little bit um i guess i was figuring out this was a friday luke problem and today it's still thursday luke right so that was

kind of my thought um i guess i don't i'm honestly not trying to make you anxious here i'm actually it may not be coming off this way but i'm trying to be helpful i'm trying to be a bro yeah i'm also

trying not to call helpful would have been taking a picture of the qr code okay i know that's short

of that but short of that and again like the thing that i learned in this thing is um well i learned obviously what implicit bias is uh but aside from that what i learned is that like it's it's interactive like you there will be a breakout session the the person who's running the the session already has you grouped up probably with two other people or once you sign up and then you're suddenly in a breakout room and you have to discuss things and then come up with uh you have to come up with something that then when you go back to the larger group one of you has to represent your small group and I did not do that none of us want to do it I was in a group of three people and we all just like just didn't want to do it and eventually I believe Stephen did it Stephen who turns out lives right here outside of Seattle I didn't even know I had a colleague named Stephen who lives right outside of Seattle but anyway um yeah so it's going to be interactive so you can't just do it on an airplane late at night is what I'm saying and again yeah I will say this about it i again i'm not going to slam the idea of an organization wanting its employees to be aware of implicit bias because i do believe implicit bias is a problem i will also say i don't think you're going to learn anything right that we haven't had more in-depth conversations about um this very program before like not to say that like hey we're a couple of white guys and we got this solved do not want to say that at all i will say that i'm pretty sure based on many public conversation. I've had with you about such issues, you are very aware of the information that is in this demonstration.

That's always kind of the challenge, I think, around—we have a country that was founded by racists and that still has a huge amount of institutional racism, etc., and there are many people living in this country who are not getting the same shot at life that people like me are as a white dude. That's a very real thing. And so when you have a big company, they're trying to do what they can to in some way rectify that or work towards a solution. The chasm for me is usually or the part that's what they end up actually putting out there as a way of trying to create a solution or move us towards a solution is often I find it kind of lacking you know it's not that the idea is a bad idea it's that the execution is can be kind of tough sometimes or just feel like it's not you're not learning something new and I don't know I don't know the answer that I've been in a lot because I have about nine jobs I've been in a lot of this sort of training uh over the last year or so and I I usually do find something depending on who's leading it depending on how exactly they're approaching the topic there's definitely stuff to learn and i you know i'll pick something up and and again i'm i i want to go on this journey because it's the morally correct thing to do to try to figure out how do we make this country less racist and it starts with you know me starts with like white dudes like me but yeah a lot of the training doesn't seem to really be super duper uh providing or presenting information to me that i didn't maybe already sort of have i guess yeah i'm trying to hack into the

system here to see what is still available for you but i don't think that um i don't think that i'm going to create more good radio by trying to solve this problem for you on the air but do take a look at it because i'm not sure i'm i'm not convinced that people are keeping an eye on the spreadsheet where you sign up and realizing that you haven't signed up it might be one of those things where all the classes are over and then they're they're going through attendance and then there's going to be red flags for those employees who didn't do it you can't be the only One in this huge organization who may have Missed it for some reason but you could Lose maybe they'll put together a I don't know like a Bad kids class of everybody it'll Be like yeah six in the morning And right on a Saturday Right

With that one teacher from the breakfast

Club right exactly

And I'll say does Barry Manilow Know you raided his wardrobe Do I stutter That's the weirdest like Did Barry Manilow that I really don't like that joke. Maybe it was – maybe I'm not old enough for it. Maybe in the 80s it was a well-known thing that Barry Manilow dressed like a high school principal.

Well, he is. If I'm remembering it correctly, he is wearing like the classic kind of like – like he's not wearing a tie, but he's wearing more of a casual shirt with a blazer. It is – I mean it is a fair description, is it not? Or did the movie just bully me into thinking that that's a good joke because I grew up with it?

That's kind of where my – I'm just Googling this right now. I want to see a picture of – let's see. Oh, and let's see if we can get to that page. Questions?

Yeah, I got a question. Does Barry Manilow know that you raid his wardrobe? I'll give you the answer to that question, Mr. Bender, next Saturday. I used to use that as a drop all the time when I used to make mixtapes in high school. Let's see.

Now I'm Googling Barry Manilow. like Barry Manilow Outfit 1980s. This is why I can't do this training. I'm very busy, Andrew, Googling things like Barry Manilow Outfit 1980s.

By the way, while you're working on that, I'll say I'm trying to hack into the system here and it won't accept me to get to the sign-up sheet anymore. I think it might be blocking me out because it knows that I've already registered. This may be a more sophisticated system than I thought. We've got to get you signed up. We've got to get you signed up because I'm nervous.

See, here's the thing. I'm looking at Barry Manilow, like, and, I mean, he sort of has a wide range of outfits that he wears, right? But, like, there's one Barry Manilow in his Copacabana shirt, and that's a really over-the-top kind of white, just, like, very ornate theatrical almost kind of or whatever outfit. That's clearly not what the principal is wearing. I mean, the principal, I just – maybe he looked more like Barry Manilow than I understood. I felt like it was more – it's just also there might be some just like very subtle homophobia woven into that because Barry Manilow is now an out man, but I do not think he was out at the time. But I could also see a world in which that was 80s sort of humor that was slyly trying to take the principle down by making a kind of homophobic reference.

I will say this though. I'm looking at a – first of all, I don't – think i knew that i don't think i knew that barry manilow was gay but um i'm if you just search barry manilow's sport coat you end up seeing that he is often rocking a sport coat with a collared shirt with no tie underneath it and i think that is the premise of this joke there is a lot of them and some of them very much do one of them looks almost exactly like uh like the principal now the funny thing is all right a lot of these are much later in life so it's almost like did barry manilow think I need to lean into dressing like the principal from The Breakfast Club? Exactly. Right, right, right. It's a great question. I kind of cherry-picked that a little bit, though, because I did type in Barry Manilow's sport coat. But it does seem like a look that he rocks. But you're right. That definitely seems like one of those jokes where as a kid, I probably just laughed at it and thought, I'm learning. You know what I mean?

Right, because when you're a kid and somebody on the movie screen says something that you it's telegraphed to you this is a joke this is a sick burn then you just are like okay that's a sick burn and it's almost like the actual content doesn't really matter because right you know you just at that point at that age you're very kind of suggestible i i'm gonna i'm gonna say that that probably was a joke about like also having kind of a big collar because that was a real look in the 80s you know what i mean like having a collared shirt that had like a really huge oversized collar which was definitely something barry manilow rocked a lot in those photos um hey we have a little bit of um tvtl breaking news uh the announcement from uh the folks at jeopardy that our buddy ken jen and mayam bialik are going to be splitting the jeopardy

hosting duties for the foreseeable future yes as i understand as i kind of um temporary host until something more permanent is named whatever that may be that seems like good i mean i don't i hate to use the word good news because i don't know what any of the players want in this situation and i am not uh friends with ken jen as you are but if if ken does still your house i mean that's he has yeah it's for work-related purposes and actually um i don't know if you know this genevieve and ken's wife have become kind of very friendly in the past couple of years um but uh aside from that i don't know i don't i don't know what his wishes and desires are but if it is his wish and desire to possibly still be a candidate for the full-time position this is it seems like a good

sign yeah i was chatting with him today actually and uh he obviously can't really comment much on this there's almost no history of the newly announced jeopardy hosts running into any trouble by oversharing things. But he is excited that this is going to be happening. That is the quote that I can attribute to Ken Jennings. He's excited that this will be happening. So I take that to mean he's intrigued by the possibility.

And also people just really seem to enjoy him. So that's what makes me happy on behalf of the diehard Jeopardy heads. People just seem to enjoy his performance when he filled in. I thought he did great. Yeah, so it sounds like while they figure things out, whatever the final answer may or may not be people will get some good jeopardy out of this have you watched any of this week's as they're airing the mike richards episodes wait is that happening this week yeah i think it started on monday i think we're nearing the end of the week now oh wow okay

i didn't realize i mean i knew that they were going to air those or they said they were but i still kind of couldn't believe it was really going to happen yeah i think it's now monday So I – Becca and I were on a schedule where we were watching a lot of Jeopardy a few months ago. And then we just kind of got off of that schedule for whatever reason. And so I have kind of – also, as I mentioned on the show extensively, when I thought that it was going to be the Mike Richards show, I really kind of lost interest. And in fact, it would have kind of bummed me out to watch him hosting. Now I think it actually sounds really fun to watch him host only five episodes. like from a kind of like from from the future just being like hey buddy uh it's gonna be uh you're in for a real treat when you get done with these recordings today you don't know it yet but you're about to walk into someone's office and be told you're not the host of jeopardy anymore uh and i guess i mean they have to air those episodes though because if you if you were the contestant that competed on on that show uh you know in on that episode it would be a bad deal for you like if you won and you don't get to actually like have it be on tv or you have to go and redo it and maybe you don't win the second time i mean they just it's just like they have to

use those episodes because of the contestants yeah and um i'm just reading some bunk article here on yahoo entertainment and it's basically a collection of people i think pretty much just rando's uh tweets about how awkward it is to watch anybody watching this is really bunk journalism and somebody who i would like to say I don't know.

I do not follow whose name on Twitter is Mama's Pinky Toe tweeted out Mike Richards, dead man hosting, which seems to really kind of sum up the vibe. Who is the person? Mama's Pinky Toe.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I follow them. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. So anyway, this is I think, you know, this is very good news. I mean it's – as I texted Ken, I can't attribute – or I can't go on the record with what he was saying to me, but I can go on the record with what I was saying to him, which was I said, life comes at you slow and annoyingly over the course of many years. Yes. Because, I mean, it was like, you know, he was very much in the pocket with the show as Alex Trebek's health was was was fading. And and it just seemed kind of like it was a no brainer that he might take it over just because he is the so-called goat of that show, et cetera. And all that other stuff, craziness happens. And I don't know again, I don't have any inside information. And maybe this is just a placeholder. But my hope would be my guess would be that he'll continue to do a really good job hosting the show. people will get used to it people also I don't I mean I know Mayim Bialik has some some kind of questionable takes around vaccines or something or she had maybe not even the the big one the the COVID one but previous stuff she had some she she had said some things that people were kind of you know concerned about I guess but I don't know she seems like a nice enough person

I don't know I'm just I enjoy her presence yeah I think that she's got several things that are kind of um that are not in line with my thinking um and some so it's not your in your opinionation you don't think the sun is gonna shine but like you know i watched her she released like a 10 minute video trying to really explain her thoughts on vaccines and she said i am not anti-vax i am me and my family are vaccinated against the uh coronavirus by the way are you vaccinated against the coronavirus or against covid one is a virus one is a disease what is the vaccine whoa because i i just was wondering about that because i was writing the show description for yesterday's

show and i was like i'm vax hesitant as i've said many times it's not i'm not anti the vax i'm just

never going to get it i don't think people should get it right exactly because your cousin's friend in trinidad is that right um but um anyway so i watched her try to watch walk a tightrope she does think that vaccinations are maybe overly prominent in our society and she believes that some big companies are getting rich off of vaccines that maybe are not necessary but she is not saying that no vaccines are necessary and she's not saying that the covid vaccine that's

that's how she might have a point by the way on that i don't know enough about and and she's obviously a very smart person i mean she i think like did she get her phd i think she you know became a scientist post-Blossom and pre-Big Bang Theory.

But also, isn't she... Uh-oh, Drunk Andrew's going to get us in trouble. Isn't she advertising some sort of brain juice that you and I turned down as a potential sponsor for TVTL? Have you seen these commercials? I think they're on MSNBC during Chris's show.

I can't believe they call it brain juice.

You know what? Now that I think about it, it's probably not called brain juice. But she definitely sells something that is supposed to. Are you Googling as I talk? Is it Nereva? Yeah, right, which I don't know the ins and outs of that. But, like, you're out there saying that you don't believe in some common vaccines, but you're also going on TV literally saying, I don't just play a scientist on TV. I am a scientist, and that's why I think you should drink this Nereva brain juice. I'm just like, really, man? Also, she had some comments. Genevieve is always quick to remind me of this, too. So she has some, you know, she's just a more conservative person than I am. And so, like, I guess she had some comments that were a little like, well, I would, you know, teach women to or maybe I would teach my daughters to dress more conservatively so as to not attract the bad apples and the male gaze and like kind of putting it on women, you know, almost almost victim blaming a little bit when it comes to that kind of stuff. So all of that said, I would not be mad at seeing her on my TV hosting Jeopardy. I think that would be an entertaining product.

Yeah. I think everything – the dust has settled in more or less the best way possible, leaving out the fact that maybe LeVar Burton would have been better than any of them. I don't know.

Yeah, and again, do we know for sure – have we seen any quotes from him or his camp saying that, like, he feels like he wanted it? You know what I mean? like or wanted it at the offer that they were offering yeah i told you the only thing i saw

was just the day that it was announced that mike richards was not going to be the host i believe uh levar burton tweeted something that was like a very good friday morning to everyone and then we're trying to read the tea leaves of that i do mean that is in The Sybil, the tea of the hot goss. So, all right. That's the latest on that. We should take a quick break because if we don't, it'll be 55 minutes into the show and I'll be trying to cram in this Elizabeth Holmes story, which I've been neglecting all week. We've just had, Andrew, such a great week of shows. We've had so much hashtag content that we can't get to the hashtag content that we're promoting. So anyway, quick break. We'll be back with that here in a moment on TBTL. I'm going to go get a drink. All right, let's thank some donors of the day. These are the folks making the show possible with their monthly support. Folks like Craig Olson in Stanwood, Washington. Dan Patterson is in Aberdeen. Washington. I guess that would be like if Willie. Custodian Willie. What's his real name? Janitor Willie. I don't know if you say janitor.

What's his name? Well, it's Willie. Yeah, but they always say it with a prefix, right? Groundskeeper. Groundskeeper. Okay, that's better. Thank you, Internet. Boy, that was an embarrassing moment for me.

Well, you're drunk, so you actually have an excuse i've i've not yet touched alcohol that would be a that's i mean i'm not trying to moralize for people at all and you know i've had my well-documented um complicated relationship with alcohol well-documented on this show and in various police blotters but um with us working from home and with us you know having like ready access to alcohol it would seem that if it started to be the case that we were drinking during the show or you know, drinking when we do a later show, let's say noon, that could get a little dangerous pretty fast. I think it's, I mean, this, I guess, goes for everybody because Lord knows lots of people are working from home now. So I guess we're all having to kind of decide what our sort of deal is. But I think it's just as well that you and I are generally alcohol free when doing the show. Although I have recorded Spots Drunk before and you noticed,

but you didn't call me out, which I appreciate. Well, you asked, and I should have just lied. I actually think back on that conversation. One day you sent me three spots and you sent them like late at night. Like 11 o'clock at night. And I could just, I just, Luke, I spend so much time talking to you. Like literally your voice is in my ears with headphones. I guess same with a lot of listeners. But we just spend so much time talking in person and, of course, doing the show and everything. So, yeah, I can sort of tell. I just heard a slightly, you know, slightly thicker tongue. But you also said something really funny in one of the spots. I don't remember what it was. and apologies but my point is um i was as i was mixing i'm like oh luke yeah luke had a little but that it was fine it wasn't unprofessional and i don't think anybody else would have noticed

now play but you will go back and play guess the spot that luke was drunk but you asked me that's

the thing i think you straight up asked me or maybe you just said you were and i said oh yeah

i could hear it or something i remember how it went i said hey dude so last night i totally forgot to do those spots and then when i finally got to it it was late at night i was a little tired and emotional and like I was like uh could you hear that and you said very nicely you said I picked up on a little something but I don't think the listeners would notice like you were

very gentle with me yeah but I understand why that also lives in your brain because that's you know that I don't like that either I think about that um well this show will go down in infamy in this manner as well but that Super Bowl show we did which I still have never listened back to because we were going to just keep recording each other on Super Bowl Sunday Via telephone, I was in LA at the time And I was getting so drunk And then recording these segments with you That after the second one, I told you I think by text, I don't think I can do the third one Like it's, I've already embarrassed myself too much And I've never gone back and listened to that I'm just mortified to think about it Was that the one that they lost?

That was the one that they won Right, and I remember what happened to you With that, and by the way You know who loves these kinds of stories Christine Pernula of Renton, Washington She's supporting the show for just this kind of content, as is Molly Price in Seattle. Monica Reginball in Burbank, Washington. Do you think Monica started listening to this show because that's also my name? I think she moved there because she likes the show so much. That's really, I mean, that's ultimately what's going to happen with TBTL. We joked in the early days about forming a cult. We're going to get as many listeners as possible. We're all going to move to Burbank, Washington. Oh, my gosh.

We should do a big meet up there.

Oh, that actually would I bet you there's a Walsh, Washington as well I doubt that

Walsh is not really a town name Really?

um rebecca robinson taking you to walsh city

uh rebecca robinson is in federal way washington thank you rebecca thanks to all of our donors of the day uh i was saying what happened to you on the um that super bowl was that you were reserving you were at a restaurant a bar in la and you were trying to hold a big table but the people that were going to be sitting at the table with you were not there yet and that

It was a big table in the middle of the, I would say, I guess, the east sides, because there are two Seahawks bars in L.A., or there were at the time. This one that I'm talking about now is no longer the Seahawks bar there. But, you know, it was the only one that wasn't on the west side. And so all Seahawks fans in L.A. presumably are coming to this Koreatown bar to watch their team in the Super Bowl. And I'm trying to reserve like the last supper size table that is in the middle of this in the middle of this bar restaurant, this one big long table that had like 14 seats. And I am the only one there at first just trying to like a puffer fish, trying to make myself as big as possible.

Like I need all that space and trying to drink enough to justify that you're at the table like, OK, you guys are losing business because you're guarding the table. But you're like you know what I can do to help the situation I can drink like 10 men I You don't have that That was always what I thought that the real story was Was that you were maybe ordering them A little more fast and furious than normal Because you were trying to like You know kind of in a way at least make up For the fact that you were there Maybe I just invented that

I feel like you might have over the years invented that To give me some cover but I could be wrong I feel like I was probably ordering them so quickly Because I have an unhealthy relationship with alcohol um but who knows but either way yes a lot of day drinking was happening and eventually you know all of my friends did show up and it was it was a hell of a day it was also a um yeah i i have very mixed emotions about that day i mean obviously the tbtl component of it but also i was still very new at my uh real job and i it was it was a pretty dark time for me and also um this is such a weird place to take it but I also remember um Philip Seymour Hoffman died that day and so I was getting all this stuff from like work and whenever there was like a celebrity death there was a lot of pressure on us to get them on the show to basically get their ghost on the show like if it wasn't the person's ghost then it wasn't good enough for our host and it was just kind of like and I'm just like no this is my day like I'm a Seattleite here in LA having a hard time and my team is in the Super Bowl and I you know I don't I understand when you work in journalism you don't always you sometimes you have to react in the moment even if it's the weekend I'm not usually afraid of that but I just was not getting a lot of joy out of life I was not getting a lot of joy out of this work I was not interested in finding um you know I just feel like we can we can find somebody to say something nice about Philip Seymour Hoffman the next day you know what I mean we don't have in Los Angeles in Los Angeles we don't have to blow out Super Bowl Sunday for this but it was living in the back of my head and then you know I got too tuned up and I don't think our furniture had arrived yet so then i go back and i'm like working on a card table with my desktop computer it was not a card top computer but i like this desktop computer i'm trying to upload files to you from my recording as i was drunk and i just remember i remember kind of you know i remember some good times about that game but i also it's really it's really um i have some shadows hanging over it as well as opposed to the next year where we lost in a heartbreaking manner But actually my life was a little bit better And I was at somebody's home Some dear friend's home there in LA But they're huge Seahawks fans And then I think you and I may be recording Some like real heartbreaking moments But my friends just being so lovely And coming out during the recording Everybody just like kind of weeping together Like somehow the loss Is a happier memory for me Which is something I've never said before

I'm just sort of realizing that now as I'm reliving them Watch what's going to happen The Browns are going to get to the Super Bowl And I'm going to be calling you going Paul Reiser died

First of all I was wondering who you were going to put in there Like I've asked before you even said Paul Reiser I'm like I already feel terrible About whoever whatever Living person you slayed into that

Joke well that's I think Paul Reiser would appreciate this He's a comedian I don't think you were

I don't think you were inappropriate

Like I like the idea that not only would it be Like weird that I'm trying to call you And like we got to book somebody on this but somebody who's just Very very on the far outside Ring of anything we ever talk about Although I did mention Matt about you recently.

I was wondering if that might have had something to do with it as well.

Now, if Richard Kind dies, forget it. Wall-to-wall coverage, special coverage for five solid days.

It could be the World Series on Super Bowl Sunday, however that works. And we need to do a special episode for it. I had this thought.

I'm sorry. We're all over the place again. I'm going to prevent you from doing the top story again with my drunken ramblings. When we were talking to Kiki Lolo the other day and she was going through a list of rom-com movies for us, and that happened to be the same episode where you brought up Richard Kine. But I was thinking Mad About You seems like the closest thing to a TV sitcom that had the feel of a big picture rom-com to me. And maybe it's because it – who was it? Not Helen Hunt. Yeah, Helen Hunt. Yeah, Helen Hunt. Paul Reiser. Helen Hunt. And she's, you know, she was a big screen star, but still doing this kind of cozy, very, you know, kind of romantic comedy show.

Yeah. I loved that show. Now, I haven't gone back and watched it, but at the time, it was really, really up my alley because, yeah, I mean, I loved When Harry Met Sally in those days. And I remember it being a really funny show. But, again, that was 30 years ago or something, 20 years ago. But you're right. It was – it just felt – and I don't know for a fact that they lived in New York, but it feels like they probably did. Part of my obsession with a lot of those things was just I wanted to live in New York. I wanted to live in New York, and I wanted to have a cute girlfriend, and I wanted to be listening to Harry Connick Jr. I wanted to be living inside When Harry Met Sally or Mad About You or one of those sorts of things, which is weird because Friends was also happening at the time. And that was about, you know, I also liked the show Friends, but I mean, that was people that were more my age and were more glamorous and were living in glamorous apartments. But I was more still like, I want to be friends with Richard Kine.

Oh, he was my favorite part of that show. I'm with you almost in lockstep on this. I love those kind of the New Yorkness of that show, which I think you're right about. And also, like, you know, I brought this up the other day, too. Obviously, Woody Allen is not something that I watch now. And, you know, it kind of breaks my heart. I don't know if that's even the right thing to say there But I really enjoyed it But I enjoyed the living vicariously In these New York apartments You know and to varying degrees Of wealth depending on where he was in his career When he was writing it but like I was So I was really drawn to Matt about you I always disliked Like actively disliked Friends And I'm not just saying that because it's the thing to say now

I think I got swept up in the Cultural phenomenon that was Friends I mean, first of all, they really – I think that they initially – was it on after Seinfeld? I think so, yeah. I feel like there was a thing where they led into it with Seinfeld, which obviously didn't hurt that show's popularity at all. And I think I just got swept along in all of it and the must-see TV-ness of it all. Sure, yeah. Okay, let's get to this because I think this is actually pretty good reporting by Bobby Allen at NPR. um concerned citizen at theranos ceo elizabeth holmes trial turns out to be dot dot dot uh so basically this it's clear bobby allen is covering the and i don't probably need to give too much explanation on elizabeth holmes she was ceo of this company theranos and they were supposedly going to revolutionize uh like blood testing and and testing for illness and things in your blood but with one drop of blood and problem was the machines didn't work they never really built them And it was more of an idea More of a comment Than an actual device I'm an ideas man, Michael Yeah, exactly, I think I proved it with Bleep Mountain So anyway, Bobby Allen is Covering this trial for NPR And he starts this piece By saying Talking about this guy He says, during the first day of jury selection At the federal fraud trial of Elizabeth Holmes A man Pulled a large Rice Krispie treat from his pocket loudly. So loudly, in fact, that the judge's voice was barely audible in the back of the courtroom over the sound of his wiggling the brick-shaped snack out of tightly wrapped plastic. So his first awareness is this guy opening a Rice Krispie treat too loud. My name's Hanson, said the man, wearing a baseball cap and a Patagonia puffer jacket. He was sociable and chatty, adjectives that rarely describe people attending one of the most high-profile trials in silicon valley history um uh as uh the trial proceedings started the man presented himself to reporters as something of an everyman who came out of curiosity and nothing more i fix up old cars for a living he said um elizabeth and i are the only two people not being paid to be here he added this man hansen so bobby allen uh starts uh wondering what is this dude's connection to this case like something's off uh bobby allen says who was this man why was he talking so much to all the reporters did he have a connection to holmes when when i asked him he was cryptic do i know her does anyone know her what does it even mean to know someone these days the man told npr in the courtroom i mean that's just like that's like a joke about lying right or or Or maybe avoiding the truth.

Right. Do you know Elizabeth Holmes? I mean, can any of us really know anyone or ourselves? Does anyone?

That sounds like something out of Arrested Development.

A short while later, he called himself a concerned citizen interested in the trial. He said it had always been on his bucket list to attend a trial. His story, though, would soon unravel. He was going around talking to reporters, and Bobby writes, He maintained more or less the same story He was a car enthusiast who was acting as a media watchdog Making sure the news coverage matched What he observed in court He was distrusting of how the press had been treating Elizabeth Holmes Well it turns out Hanson was actually Bill Evans San Diego hotel magnate One of the richer people in San Diego And also the father Of Elizabeth Holmes' baby daddy A guy named Billy Evans

oh so not her father but okay it's not her father but her partner sort of really yeah her father

in law more or less yeah okay uh so after they select the jury then it's time for the actual you know trial so they bring Elizabeth Holmes in and her partner is there and and and the family and there's Hanson in a gray suit and a somber black tie I couldn't believe my eyes said New York Times reporter Aaron Griffith I immediately started asking the other reporters and they were We're like, I think that's that guy. And when we got inside and saw him closer, it was like, yep, that was him. He's a 61-year-old, like I said, hotel magnate in San Diego. He also, by the way, like owns a car museum.

I was going to say, I'll bet you there was truth in everything he said because he thought he was being real clever, huh?

He inherited a San Diego institution from his father, Evans Garage, a private museum and event space that houses vintage cars dating back as far as the 1880s. The closed-to-the-public collection includes vehicles that make car aficionados swoon, like a replica of a 1909 Blitzen Benz, which seems to be the inspiration for this guy's Instagram handle, which is Blitzenbill.

Oh, Bill, Blitzenbill. Oh, Blitzenbill.

So he, yeah, fixes up old cars for a living, i.e., inherited a shitload of valuable cars from his daddy. and is now in court observing his son's partner's, you know, whatever, trial. Here's another little great detail from this, though. I just love the idea of Bobby Allen going around. See, I've also covered trials kind of like this. I covered the Michael Jackson trial, and you become kind of buds with the other reporters because you're there for sometimes months, and there's a lot of just sitting around. um so uh bobby allen goes over and is talking to sarah ashley o'brien a reporter uh with cnn who said yeah he was claiming to go by hansen but then i noticed he had a different name on his starbucks cup the cup he was holding said bill or billy or something she recalled so he's going around telling everyone his name is hansen he's got carrying a starbucks cup with his real name

on it although isn't that kind of par for the course wouldn't a starbucks employee potentially write bill on someone named hansen's cup sure that you're right that maybe that's not as um no i actually think that's really funny because like definitive yeah he's not in character at the starbucks he's only in character when he walks through those doors luke that's when he

becomes handsome exactly um he uh the the same reporter from cnn also remembered his shoes seemed too fancy. Salvador Ferragamo loafers. Quite fancy shoes for a random man attending the trial, she had noticed. Bobby Allen then shares an elevator with this guy, with Hanson, a.k.a. Blitzenbill. And Bobby Allen asks, Are you a mole? I asked him point blank. He joked about having a mole on his bald head. The conversation veered off course.

He's not lying. Are you a mole?

The only mole I know about is right here on my bald dome can anyone really ever know a mole can you ever really know a mole uh let's see uh another reporter from cnbc uh said uh that she had followed him out of the courtroom to ask whether he was uh paying for this lush silicon valley estate where his son and holmes have been staying he ignored her and then i said why did you tell us your name was Hanson she said and he booked it for the men's restroom when reached by phone about why he offered a fake name and hid his connection to Holmes Evans this is again now Bobby Allen reporting and he calls this dude up Evans said he has no memory of sitting next to me for seven hours during the first day of jury selection he did not deny telling reporters his name was Hanson Instead, he defended it People have nicknames And you can be free to use them, Evan said On that note, I'll say goodbye That's the end of the piece This reminds me, is it Steve Buscemi's character where he plays a private eye in 30 Rock? Yeah, that's where the Hello Fellow Teens comes from. This sounds like this is his kind of undercover work here. I love it. At a certain point, it's just like, I got to go to the bathroom. Right. It's cartoonish. Yeah, it's very arrested development, right? So now is he attending the trial now not in the disguise anymore?

Yes. He is attending the trial as his real self in a suit as part of the kind of, you know, supporters of Elizabeth Holmes, which also just raises the question, what was his endgame? Yeah. Like he had to know that was going to happen. So during jury selection, he must have just been sort of getting off on on on this persona and being, I guess, somewhat incognito. I mean, I think it's probably true that he believes that the coverage of her has been unfair. I think that's probably his real feelings on the matter. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, I don't know what he thought was going to happen. Like, did he – I don't feel like he fully planned this out.

Yeah. Was he going to get, like, the real scoop of, like, reporters maybe just bro-ing down with him and, like, showing their bias? Like, we're just going to throw the game. Right. We're going to make sure she gets 20 years. Right. Like, who was he thinking they were going to disclose? I don't know. Or maybe he wanted to avoid – maybe he just wanted – well, I was going to say maybe he wanted to avoid any kind of media attention. But he's not acting like a man who doesn't want attention. What with the crinkly Rice Krispie Treat and all of that

Right again yeah it's like and then Bobby Allen writes in this piece too And again all credit to Bobby Allen for a really good piece of journalism But like he points out that this is not a good look when the sort of core allegation is that Elizabeth Holmes deceived people To the tune of millions and billions of dollars And so now somebody that's in her inner circle is lying actively lying to the press in a very provable way It's like this is not this is not making your whole sort of like, you know, group seem less, more believable, more honest.

I'm not and I want to make this clear. I am not a lawyer, but it is my understanding that judges do not like it when people do not respect the court. And this does not sound like behavior that respects the court very much.

Right. And it kind of makes me wonder, too, like, I don't know. this is where this is where like I get into some really some really questionable territory that has to do with my massive chip on my shoulder about anybody who I think had it easier than me in the financial department which I've been trying to work on because as I've now said on the show probably a bunch of times there are all kinds of ways in which life can be challenging you know and like there are lots of people who maybe grew up with lots of resources but much less love and parental support than I got like I just always knew my parents loved me that's an incredible gift to receive and i don't even think about that because it was just always the case i just never felt you know i i just i knew that i that my parents loved me and my family loved me and that's that's huge so i go around saying well i had to pay my own student loans off like that uh entitles me to some sort of grudge against the world but if i can just engage in that for a minute on the Friday. This guy got all his stuff from his dad, and it kind of feels to me like this is the behavior of somebody who just doesn't really, has not had to really exist in the real world that much. This is his imitation of somebody who isn't rich. I work on old cars for a living. Oh, your millions of dollars of classic cars that your dad gave you that you work on? it's just like yeah you said it exactly right it's like somebody trying to do an impression of what he thinks the sort of hoi polloi are like yeah and and and again it's like it's sort of like to what end that's the other part where i feel like he's just somebody who's not really connected to reality because he's kind of been wealthy his whole life and and has not had at least that pressure on him and and it's just sort of like yeah i'm gonna go in there undercover in my Ferragamo shoes talking about my name my real name on my Starbucks cup but I'm just going to tell everyone this other thing and like it just feels like if Buster Bluth was trying to do this

right well right I was going to say I know I just keep on making references back to Arrested Development because I was also thinking of Henry Winkler's demeanor I'm getting sort of like whiffs of Winkler here now that's a good show tale we have explicitly implicit

but I think whiffs of Winkler Will you say that on Monday?

But this definitely does have sort of the vibe of it's a banana, Michael. What could it cost $10 as far as like really giving up the game, showing that you're not really a common person. You're not really engaged.

Right. And then the way that Henry Winkler's character is just such a bad lawyer and is just always kind of just like sort of botching his defense of the. family he's always showing up to court unprepared or confused that's sort that's the level of deception that was going on here it was like yeah you know you know that this guy is going to walk into the courtroom in his regular attire or did he actually think like wearing a ball cap was going to be enough that none of the reporters were going to recognize him as the same guy he was also

wearing a football jersey that said football across the back um so just for those i just want to do this for myself and make fun of us a little bit here now most of these are on me i want to i want to go through the list of people that we've compared this person to. Almost all of them are on the cast of Arrested Development. So I said, I made the Lucille. What could it cost him a banana? What could a banana cost? You have the Winkler character on there. You said Job, I think? No, I said Buster.

You said Buster. Buster is more hapless. Can I withdraw

my Buster comparison? Yeah, definitely. So let's clean that one up. We're cleaning up the list here. And then i mentioned the undercover work of steve buscemi's character on um 30 rock so that's it also i mean

you know what i mean the staring is right in the face though it also feels very much like a thing that uh george senior would do oh that's just blue senior can you just see jeffrey tambor like sitting there just like eating peanuts with like a ball cap on yeah trying to pretend that he doesn't know anyone like you know lindsey is on trial and he's trying to pretend like he doesn't know her or something i could like it feels very and kind of in the way that it's like there's no real end game and it's you know it's it's almost this kind of um uh disregard for everyone else you guys are all so stupid that you're not going to realize i'm the same guy

that's the thing i think he would be more comfortable doing it actually i think that's where that analogy breaks down because god why am i now you're the one that drunk you're the one that's drunk in my i'm the one with the analogies that suck can we call the show you're the one that drunk um i was the one that drunk but uh because he he now we're just analyzing the characters on the rest of development i did not see this coming but um because he's able to bro down in prison right you think that he's right a rich guy going to prison and he's yes and he's going to be he's going to be it's going to be a real bad scene for him but instead he he can like george can kind of bro down with the common man. You can kind of operate. Yeah, yeah.

That's funny. You know, I never really thought of that, but obviously it's like he's sort of, even by the standards of that show, he's morally bankrupt. But he's the only one that's, he and I guess you would say, you know, Michael are the only non-idiots on the show, right?

Yeah, and then Michael really goes bad in season four, which I hope you didn't see. That was a big problem with season four. He stops being the straight man And he starts acting really kooky in his own way. That's also just not very funny. But he becomes kind of an unreliable narrator or unreliable straight man, too.

Is that when he moves into George Michael's dorm?

Yeah, it's really ridiculous.

Huh. You know what's ridiculous, Andrew? Stealing bonsai trees out of someone's backyard. Can you break down the process? How do you do it? How do you come up with these transitions? Well, one thing. I'm not drunk. so that's part of it

by the way drunk Andy is mean Andy I'm kind of a bully

so you can just disregard that this story you sent me this story and actually I have to say it's intriguing because it involves the theft of like a tree that's 250 years old but it's also very sad it is it really is thieves have been apparently according to the Star Tribune I know that you subscribe to a number of their emails yes not i don't actually subscribe to the publications but

i do read the emails i actually do read two of their newsletters every morning now so this is

a piece by richard chin in the star tribune talking about thieves sneaking into people's backyards in the middle of the night to steal their beloved miniature bonsai trees worth thousands of dollars the twin cities area has experienced a wave of bonsai banditry as thieves have crept into yards in the middle of the night to steal these uh i just read the same line twice okay so one of these was an 80 year old uh the trees included an 80 year old horn beams and a ponderosa pine estimated to be more than 250 years old um uh one of the stolen trees was worth about seven thousand five hundred dollars the other was worth about six thousand you know that's real money yeah and like it had never occurred to me one of them is a ponderosa pine of course the way you get a bonsai tree is i guess you take a regular tree and then you just cultivate it and trim it and do all this kind of crazy stuff to it over the years so it never gets full size but of course if you would have said what's a bonsai tree i'd be like it's a bonsai tree that's like the variety of tree but i think bonsai is really more the process right because a ponderosa pine could just grow to be

however tall that gets in nature uh i assume the same thing for a hornbeams tree but these were just ones that people had been taking care of and keeping in this miniature form for years and years and years and years and the really sad part is uh this one guy uh a saint paul a bonsai tree owner who has not to be named said the tree thieves came into his yard at night twice in august he said the thieves took 11 potted trees even though he had tried to secure them as a grown man i don't believe i've cried like this in front of anyone he wrote on facebook right uh if you if you have them or know where they are please water them multiple times a day or they will die

yeah it's like when somebody when somebody goes missing you know and i'm not trying to make light of that and you're just like you're diswrought and all you can do is use the media to try to reach the people who may have your loved one and you're just saying please take care of them you know and like here i mean again this is these are i had no idea that these things could be so valuable but then also just like the emotional component of of this like he's lost something that he loves that is also just like you know as you said what 250 years to to create the emotional bond that this person has with that plant and then and this is i i'm sure you're getting to this but if you don't mind i would like to reveal what i think is the the biggest dazzling detail of the story which is these aren't just sitting out in people's front yards and people are walking by and thinking hey i should take that bonsai in the same way they uh stole the signs the magnetic signs off of our van or the way the wind might have done that um these are inside jobs in some way like it's unclear what's going on here but like these are in people's these are in protected areas so somebody knows these things exist and are now breaking in to steal them that's right You would think if you're in the bonsai community, like you would you would all share a respect of these trees or you're somebody who doesn't care about them. But maybe you were a guest in somebody's home and then heard, you know, how valuable they are and then came back. I just I I can't square it, Luke. I'm serious.

Yeah. And now the bonsai community in the Twin Cities is shook up and they're asking people to not buy any bonsai trees unless they can verify. Oh, interesting. The history of the tree I don't know if I saw that I don't remember that This is like any stolen artwork Or anything of value You gotta fence it You gotta move this product And so I'm hoping that I mean who do you sell a bonsai tree to You don't just take that into your local pawn shop So I'm guessing it's a pretty small community And hopefully they won't be able to sell these things Also who knew you had to water a bonsai tree Multiple times a day Not me

I killed a bonsai tree once, and it still bums me out. Yeah, Genevieve and I were very early dating, and she got me a bonsai tree as a gift. And, yeah, I don't think it was a valuable one. You know, we're talking about valuable ones here, but I'm sure that there are, you know, anybody can get a bonsai tree. And she got me one, and I didn't take enough care of it. It lived out on the porch in my very, very first apartment, not counting my college studio. Yeah, it died, and I felt really bad about it. And Genevieve kind of knows I feel bad about it, so she'll tease me about it sometimes. I don't think she really cares. She didn't have, like, a connection to it or anything. But it bums me out that I could still have that thing, you know, if I had been more mature about it. Yeah, I'm actually kind of intrigued by this.

Of course, this bonsai would be dead in minutes if I were responsible for it, too, because, you know, multiple watering a day and all the trimming. And if you go to, like, websites, which I'm looking at right now, it's just lots of photos of people carefully trimming and taking care of these things. and those are things i'm not good at earlier i was trying to find some uh some kind of promo tape that was about trees and i have a lot of cisco talking about trees none of it's particularly useful as like promo tape because it's just him seriously talking about trees you want it to

spread out more you could pinch off the growth tip and then what it'll do that'll break what they call apical dominance and it'll branch out more and you'll get a wider tree that won't grow

is tall like there is no there's nothing overtly humorous there other than i just love listening

to cisco talk about anything there's one thing you might do it depends how you want this walnut to grow if you just let it go it's gonna really be a tall tree i mean there's a good chance that it'll get you know 80 feet tall or something i love that man um why did you nor nobody on our

Well, I think I hear it as I say it on our sports text chain respond when I posted a very cute picture of Cisco Morris hiding in a giant flower pot the other day. Do you think that I believe topic of sports?

I was in court. I was sitting at the back of the room trying to pass myself off as a concerned auto mechanic.

I don't know why I decided that you guys were the right audience for that. I was looking for a show pick. We had talked about Cisco. I don't know what. And I was just like really floundering around for a show pick the other day. And I somehow stumbled on Cisco Morris, his entire body in this giant flower pot and him just like in the peeping out. Who was that character from the 70s who would just, like, peep out, like, two hands on a wall and the nose hanging down? Oh, Spagoot? Is that what it—really? Spagoot? Is that the name? No. That's the Tim and Eric.

Spagoot.

Spagoot. Do you have any idea what I'm talking about, though? That little—somebody write in and tell me.

Well, kind of. I mean, well, I know there was a—on I Dream of Jeannie, I think there was a neighbor whose name might have been Kravitz, who was kind of a nosy neighbor. Mm-hmm. So that maybe is a little part of it But maybe there was also like a male version of that character

No, it wasn't a show It was a very simple It's almost like the smiley face Oh yeah, I know that drawing you're talking about But there's this little drawing, a very simple drawing Of a big long nose coming down over a fence Right, and two little hands Or over some sort of an edge Anyway, that was the vibe I got from this very adorable picture Of Cisco Morris And I think I just sent it to the wrong text chain It's on me

Alright, before we get on out of here let's do a little music for your weekend um now we're recording early andrew so and you've been you've been working away all day and taking part in training sessions so i don't know did you have

time to select a song yeah um i've actually been creating a little playlist here i came across a couple of songs this week that just kind of really just i randomly sort of randomly happened on um for some reason on my tbtl email account i've randomly somebody i don't know if it was one of if it was a listener, if we have a listener who has some connection to some label, but some label has just been sending me random music, and every now and then I'll click on one of them. Usually it's not quite for me. I'll look up what that label is in a second after I play this song, but the other day I got this somewhat random email from some company I hadn't heard of saying the band Cindy is releasing a new album on October 1st, and here's their second and final single before the album drops it's called party store i thought to myself i like party stores like people named cindy maybe this will be good and i really felt like it matched my mood as summer slowly fades into fall uh this is to me this period that we're living through right now luke the transition from summer into fall is always i don't know important musically to me and tonally to me like that in the beginning of summer are the times where i'm really thinking about the tone of music a lot, and this is a very kind of somewhat dirgy, indie-sounding song called Party Store from the band Cindy. Take a listen to this. Sorry, that was such a boring story.

I'm a cancer monster, calendar shows three years before. Two by three of the cash is key Listen to those brown eyes, yeah it must be his But it's late at night and I'm not gonna ask About the tiny face beneath the plexiglass Sometimes you say, yeah, you're feeling smug You plan all day for your funeral The cocoa light and the broken place It died, big dad, but in a suit of gray

So there you go. The band is called Cindy. I believe they are out of San Francisco, a relatively new band, although this is their third EP, and they're on Tough Love Records out of the UK. Sounds like you're going through some real tough love. Yeah. Anyway, I don't know. I like that sound a lot, by the way. Very fall, right? Very autumnal.

Yeah, very much so. This is what I always do. This is how I respond to music is by saying the things that it reminds me of, which is very useful to the listeners. But picking up a little bit of Bell and Sebastian and a little bit of who is the Stereolab? A little bit of Stereolab in there, too. Oh, yeah. Are they French?

Yes. Yes, indeed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it definitely reminds me of a lot of the lo-fi stuff I listened to in the 90s that I'm not having a good job of recalling right here. But, yeah, it definitely seems. reminiscent of some things I read I can't remember the name of the lead singer who the band is sort of built around but I do remember the dazzling detail of she was around a lot of musicians for a long time like partners with and friends with and she was not really a musician herself and then she one day she moved into a new apartment and somebody had left a cruddy old guitar that was i think the quote was mummified in um in tape in like duct tape and there were remnants of a of a partially eaten burrito on the neck or something and she cleaned it up a little bit and started strumming and then decided that she wanted to make some music herself wow that's a

really good story that's a nice little detail i have no such detail about the band that i'm suggesting although it's also a band that has is just a person's name the band is called shelly

Really? We have a Stevie and a Shelly

Yeah So this is just a band That I heard this on a Spotify Playlist somewhere, I really liked it The band is called Shelly They, the band is Comprised of a few different musicians One of which is signed To Phoebe Bridger's new label

Oh cool

And plays music under their own Kind of like band name I was trying to find, like I was on Consequences of Sound today, trying to find out anything I could about this band and I don't know if there's just some kind of like a filter that if you're over 45 you're just not able to make sense of the words but I couldn't really figure out what's going on other than to say this song steam by this band that's called Shelly is really good so take a listen to this

Touch me the right way, baby I'll do it again I'll do it again Sending messages While you're checking me Do you know me, yeah I'm missing your lips Missing your hips Missing the way I was touched by you I said I don't mind Waiting, baby I stuck up just with you

what do you think oh i love it and it's also right aside from even just being called cindy and shelly i feel like they're um they're both good i was saying before about like music that feels right for this for this time yes chill seasonally yeah i'm with you too that i know

exactly what you're talking about for some reason i mean i guess you could kind of say I guess it's well spring gets in there too I was going to say every season has it's kind of musical vibe but I don't know winter I don't know what winter music is necessarily I guess it would be the Sundays when it's raining outside feels like winter music to me but definitely there's a there's a fall music vibe yeah that I can't describe well but that I I know it's like pornography I know it when I hear it and this song is definitely pornography that's the point yes I only I only listen to pornography as well our listener suggestion is from listener Marissa who says I just saw Shang Shi and the Legend of the Ten Rings in the theater she writes singular I saw it in theaters my first big screen movie since March of 2020 and it was so worth it just a top tier superhero movie with actual complex characters and family dynamics plus freaking amazing action to score the movie Disney contracted with a music platform that spotlights musicians of Asian descent. The song Over the End Credits is by Anderson .Paak. It is a soul-slash-hip-hop artist of mixed Korean and African-American heritage. And this track slaps. If it had been released a couple of months ago, it could have been a song of the summer contender. But it's September, so I guess it's a song of the late summer. The song is called Fire in the Sky, Andrew.

I don't know that. I was, as you were reading this, I was very excited to hear what song it was going to be. I wonder, I'm only seeing it on the soundtrack. So maybe he wrote it like new for the movie. I guess that's kind of implied there. All right.

That's where we're going to go out with a Landerson Park. And we're going to say thank you for hanging out with us this week. Appreciate y'all making this show possible. Oh, my God.

You're going to Texas. And here come the y'alls. My God.

You better buckle up, Huckle Buck, next week.

because Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday coming to you from the Lone Star State. Wait, what did you just say? Did you even recreate what you just said? I love that cowboy talk. Luke's got Andrew nervouser than a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. Buckle up. About all his folksy-isms next week from Texas. Yeehaw. All right. See you then. Until then, have a great weekend. Go Seahawks, go Browns, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

the love of my life nice and simple like a midnight drive watching fireworks in the sky i'm calling it now i'm calling it now i'm calling it now you'll find love with me somehow yeah somehow i'm calling it now we was moving kind of fast but the feeling was right we should cruise out to nevada get married tonight life is simple long as you and my life Watch your fireworks in the sky In the summers we spent our nights Making love in the park We was buzzing off cherry wine Looking up at the stars Soft and blissful How you feel in my arms Woke up you were singing a song Like I'm calling it now I'm calling it now I'm calling it now You'll find love with me somehow Yeah, somehow

I'm calling it now

Trees They're all around us, but who gives a s***?

Power out.