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#3514 Somewhere Between Archie and Nietzsche
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3514 Somewhere Between Archie and Nietzsche

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

September 20, 2021 | 01:07:47 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke joins the show from Texas, where he endured a boat tour guide whose sense of humor was...confusing at best. Plus, Gillian Anderson is asked an awkward question after her big Emmy win last night, but she handled it with aplomb.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:16 | Speaker 3:

Ryan, you lived in New York. What do you think? Well, first of all, there's no such thing as the Mafia. Okay. What you have are specific families. What's the guy's last name? Um, it is Grotty. Oh, no. Oh, that is... What? What? John Gotti, you idiot.

00:00:16 - 00:00:19 | Speaker 4:

It's a completely different name. So he won't get caught.

00:00:20 - 00:00:21 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, pretty close.

00:00:21 - 00:00:25 | Speaker 4:

What are you talking about? What mobster would change his name from Gotti to Grotty? It weakens it.

00:00:25 - 00:00:32 | Speaker 3:

No, I disagree. R is among the most menacing of sounds. That's why they call it murder and not muck duck. Okay.

00:00:33 - 00:00:53 | Speaker 4:

TBTL! Oh, these sure are comfortable chairs. Oh, yes, sitting. The great leveler, from the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant. Who doesn't enjoy a good sit? I'm the king of the castle, and you're the dirty rascal. Crash into me. Crash into me.

00:00:54 - 00:00:57 | Speaker 3:

Why is this man wearing no pants? The answer will surprise you.

00:00:57 - 00:01:05 | Speaker 4:

Why would either one of you, uh, you know, why? Dear God, why? You got a dangerous streak and a not dangerous streak.

00:01:05 - 00:01:08 | Speaker 1:

That's a pretty boring story. I wouldn't tell that to anyone else.

00:01:08 - 00:01:10 | Speaker 4:

Yeah, I could feel it going south as I was saying it.

00:01:12 - 00:01:38 | Speaker 1:

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Monday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. I heard about that thing on the AM radio. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host, coming to you from the shores of Buffalo Bayou here in beautiful Katy, Texas. It's also very hot, Katy, Texas.

00:01:38 - 00:01:41 | Speaker 4:

Mm-mm-mm, I'm flying in hot for that hottie.

00:01:41 - 00:02:34 | Speaker 1:

The calendar may say September 20th, but it is very warm down here. From my perch in this, I would say, sort of slightly low-rent business traveler hotel that I'm in, I am looking out on a water park, actually, a huge, giant water park. And it is so hot and humid here in Texas that the thought occurred to me, because I brought my swim trunks on this trip, maybe I go visit the water park. And then I immediately realized that was kind of a bad look. 45-year-old man, solo, at a water park. I just don't know if that's the look I'm trying to cultivate. So I'll just stay here indoors, mopping the sweat off of my brow. And bringing you episode 3,514 in a collector's series.

00:02:34 - 00:02:35 | Speaker 2:

Let the fun begin.

00:02:36 - 00:03:18 | Speaker 1:

They had the Emmys last night, and Gillian Anderson won for her portrayal of Margaret Thatcher in The Crown. And they do this session afterwards where they basically sort of choose, like, four reporters that are allowed to ask extremely fawning questions. And one of the extremely fawning questions really kind of indicated the lack of research on the part of the journalist who was asking the question. I'd like to point out to anybody watching, this is really bunk journalism. We'll dip into that coming up. Also, cows and their urine and why it's a problem for our planet. Turns out it's an actual real environmental issue. Cows just, you know, going number one all over the place, but you can actually potty train them.

00:03:18 - 00:03:20 | Speaker 4:

Life's a potty. Wipe your body.

00:03:20 - 00:03:57 | Speaker 1:

So we will look into that. And also, I will, well, I'll break down what not to do when you're leading a San Diego, excuse me, a San Antonio Riverwalk boat tour. Jokes are really difficult, I must say. Because I was on one this weekend, and it was not super great. We'll do that, plus emails and V-mails, and we will talk to this guy, the longest-running Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. They just want him to be normal, and clearly he's not. He is Andrew. Indeed, Queen. Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend.

00:03:57 - 00:04:06 | Speaker 2:

Good morning. I won't lie, I was hoping you were leading the boat tour in San Antonio. I take it you were not the— That would have been. Is that how you learn whatever lesson you're about to bestow upon us?

00:04:06 - 00:04:40 | Speaker 1:

no but i have to admit the whole time when i was watching uh the the folks that were operating these kind of tour boats on this you know it's the san diego i keep wanting to call it san diego the san antonio river walk it's this tiny little you know canal it's literally like three feet deep in some places and there's a bunch of boats going back and forth and all i could think of was how many crashes would i get in if i were if i were in charge of the one of these boats just the seamanship that i would bring to the table would be a real issue i think i can picture you like

00:04:40 - 00:04:45 | Speaker 2:

trying to turn the boat around in a tight like well are you familiar with the movie toys luke

00:04:45 - 00:04:52 | Speaker 1:

robin williams vehicle only because of the leave about once every seven months that it's brought

00:04:52 - 00:05:09 | Speaker 2:

up on this show once every seven minutes i bring it up the ll cool j vehicle um i believe there's a scene where Robin Williams is writing a Oh, no, it might be Austin Powers, which was slightly less popular. There's some scene in one of those movies where somebody's trying to turn around a tiny little car in a very narrow hallway.

00:05:09 - 00:05:41 | Speaker 1:

Yes, I think it's, I want to say it's like one of those sort of golf carts that you use, you know, if you're like working in a giant building and you're going to drive it and somebody gets stuck. It's probably Austin Powers. I think it is Austin Powers. Yeah. I would say it's anything but shagadelic, Andrew, when he gets stuck doing, like, a 40-point turn in, like, a tight hallway. Although I will mention that that scene did burn itself into my brain, so I guess you've got to give him credit for that.

00:05:41 - 00:05:50 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I'm picturing that you in a crisp craft, as I like to call it, trying to turn around. That's what it was after I crashed it. Yeah, into this narrow channel.

00:05:50 - 00:05:50 | Speaker 1:

It was too crispy.

00:05:51 - 00:05:51 | Speaker 2:

Yes.

00:05:51 - 00:07:02 | Speaker 1:

And just completely basically going ever given on it, the boat that got stuck in the Suez Canal. Right. Right. That would have been just doing that and then just backing up all of the San Antonio Riverwalk traffic. I mean, I don't think you're allowed to have I think the only boats that are allowed on this thing are these, you know, these tour boats. And then you saw some police and there are no like regular people in their boats. I mean, that would be an S show of the highest order because, again, it's not a huge river at this point. It's just this little kind of touristy thing. But, no, I was in San Antonio over the weekend. Becca and I were visiting San Antonio and staying actually at this Airbnb in what's called Texas Hill Country, Andrew, that I was so into this house that we were renting and the stuff in the house, like the books on the bookshelves that I became almost emotionally connected to whoever owns the Airbnb. I tweeted out a picture of this bookshelf and I said something to the effect of, I'm not saying that I'm overly emotionally invested in these people who own this place, but I would die for them. Like, I feel like they get me more than maybe anyone's ever gotten me in my life.

00:07:03 - 00:07:06 | Speaker 2:

Do you think that they even read those books or they just know what turns people on?

00:07:07 - 00:07:49 | Speaker 1:

Man, if that's all, if it's like, you know, the equivalent of like a real estate agent pumping the smell of fresh cookies into a house so as to just like make you want to live there if that's just some sort of devious mind game it worked it absolutely worked because there it would appear that their literary taste is exactly where mine is which is somewhere between lowbrow and highbrow like it was just the right amount of you know somewhere between archie and nietzsche can that be a show title between somewhere between archie and nietzsche all right i have to say that might be the best joke i guess that might be the best joke that was made on that has

00:07:49 - 00:07:57 | Speaker 2:

been made on this show in one year's time market archie and market yeah um i had a really good

00:07:57 - 00:08:45 | Speaker 1:

joke on wait wait the other day i don't know if it made it on onto the show or not i was so proud of it i know i'm all over the map i apologize i mean literally here i am in katie texas um i they were talking about uh in the uk because i guess they've reopened uh the clubs or whatever they're they're literally running out of drugs i think like people are going back and partying so hardy that they're out of drugs i don't know how you measure that or know that but that was like the premise right so the question that was asked of me was like what do they run out in britain because everyone's going out to the club so much and so of course he gave me a hint i got to drugs and i came up with i at some point said oh you're talking about a classic bubble and tweak situation because there's a um there's a food called bubble and squeak that's very british

00:08:45 - 00:08:53 | Speaker 2:

oh okay i don't know but i didn't know about that so yeah that well i don't know if i'm as smart as your average npr listener though well you're above archie but below nietzsche exactly

00:08:53 - 00:09:21 | Speaker 1:

that's why you weren't able to follow my bubble and tweak joke below archie and then of course that was the that was the that was also the episode of wait wait uh that aired was was sort of you know mostly airs on the saturday that was also the anniversary of 9-11 so it was just preempted um uh in every single market and i also happened to win so like nobody got to hear that you know that i actually won or i nobody got to hear my bubble and tweak joke if that was even

00:09:21 - 00:09:26 | Speaker 2:

in the show we're really starting to see who the real victims of 9-11 are and i i was what you

00:09:26 - 00:11:45 | Speaker 1:

heard in my voice was me cycling the urge to make a joke about that it was right there uh because i was trying to not uh play in that space but um anyway so the uh this this airbnb was was was really cool and again it's out in what's called texas hill country which is just beautiful and it was it was sort of just like a really great weekend and so anyway we went down to the san antonio river walk and we thought you know it's very touristy but you got to do it and then you You've got to get on one of these little boats that takes you up and down. the river and so we did and i noticed because we walked pretty much the length of this thing before we ever got on the boat and you would hear these boat tours going past and you know each one obviously has a different person driving it and they have a sort of a different shtick and some of them you know are very jokey and some of them are more just kind of a little bit more matter of fact what i would have really liked is if any of them were kind of like when you do the chicago river tour the architecture tour there yeah i love it which is actually run by docents from or volunteers from i think it's like the chicago architecture society or something so when you do the the chicago tour it's just very very straightforward it's like hey here's the story on this building here's how they built it here's why they did it this way and i just find it to be utterly fascinating that's what i wanted in the san antonio riverwalk tour but at the least i just wanted somebody who was not going to make me do like the dance to ymca you know could you have you seen those when those ride the ducks go past you in seattle they've all got the the duck quackers going and they're like you know the the everyone it's just relentlessly fun yeah it's a nightmare so i just didn't want to get i didn't want to get that tour that version of the tour so i said to becca i was like we just got to really cross our fingers we get a decent person running the boat and we get on the boat the guy seems pretty nice and normally sort of a youngish guy and we sit down and he goes all right everybody uh before we get going a couple of safety things i just need you to reach below your seat and there's a seat belt and go ahead and just put that on and then we'll be off and so i reach down for the seat belt we all reach down for our seat and he goes there are no seat belts on this boat i'm just kidding you and it went downhill from

00:11:45 - 00:12:00 | Speaker 2:

there i thought it was going to be worse though i thought there was going to be something under your seats that you were supposed to play with a noisemaker of some sort i really did i thought it was like oh look what it is it's the duck lips or whatever wait actually duck lips is a pose isn't

00:12:00 - 00:13:21 | Speaker 1:

it you know what i mean whatever makes that yeah those things you blow on those little things that they give you when you get on a ride the duck uh situation no there were no props on this one but it was just 25 solid minutes of the worst jokes i've probably ever heard in my life and then my kind of emotional journey of deciding do i try to throw this guy a laugh or not because nobody on the boat was responding positively to what he was doing and he was undeterred every single joke he would make would be the hackiest like a joke about we went by this building that had like gargoyles and then he was like look at and if you look to your left you'll see the see those scary faces see those sad faces on that building and i'm like i think you mean gargoyles but whatever and he's like look at those faces see how one is uh is happy and then one looks sad and one looks happy and one looks sad which was actually true and he goes that's because those people are married i'm just kidding and so then we get to the end of that building and then there's like two gargoyles where the one of them is not making a kind of a an unhappy face they both just look kind of placid and he was even see at the end of the building and i want you to see something you see at the end of the building on the left you see those two gargoyles and they both have happy faces, that's because they're divorced. I'm just kidding. Okay, let's back up for a second.

00:13:21 - 00:13:56 | Speaker 2:

I mean, I know that these jokes don't deserve this sort of treatment or consideration, really, but why not? In the scenario where there's one happy gargoyle and one sad gargoyle, what is the premise of the joke that they are married? Is the traditional marriage joke that one person is happy and one person is sad? I don't think so, Mr. Tour Boat Operator. That's not even a thing, right? Is that the joke? Like, hey, yeah, those people must be married because one looks happy and one looks sad? That's not a thing.

00:13:56 - 00:14:59 | Speaker 1:

Well, that's the thing. By the way, I spent the rest of the weekend workshopping this guy's joke to Becca. So that was fun for her. Oh, my God. Oh, so you're single again. Good to hear. Why did he say that thing when he could have said this other thing? Like, it haunted me the whole weekend because everything he said was adjacent to a joke. Yeah. Or, I mean, it was an attempt at humor, but it was like, it was near something that could be called a joke, but it just wasn't quite there. It was just in the area code. It was all just off by a little bit. And it was excruciating. The main thing I wanted to say to him afterwards, which I didn't, was if he would have—honestly, if he would have just stopped with the, I'm joking, because what he would do is he would say something that was clearly presented as a joke, and it wasn't funny, and then he would immediately—like, as he was just finishing the unfunny punchline, he would say, I'm just kidding, which is if he would have just eliminated the, I'm just kidding.

00:15:00 - 00:15:14 | Speaker 2:

I mean, it would have turned into performance art at some point. It would have been just like – I'd almost have to kind of just tip my cap. Like this guy is just absolutely going for it. It's like Norm MacDonald doing the roast of Bob Saget and telling intentionally bad jokes.

00:15:14 - 00:17:03 | Speaker 1:

I feel like it is a thin tightrope to walk having a job like that. I will say that there have been – well, there have been many times I've gotten on some sort of a tourist expedition of some sort, And I am really cringing at the beginning, really hoping that the tour operators or the announcer or what have you are not going to be too over the top. I think there's something very specific about you and me and potentially our generation about, like, just hating that kind of stuff, that it almost feels painful to be, like, trapped in that situation and just hearing that this high energy, like, I've got to sell it to the back row. It's just like, yet it is their job to do that. But there is there is a spectrum, right, because I will say that I guess the only analog I can think of right now is whale watching tours. Vives and I, when we're on vacation and, you know, watery areas, areas where there are opportunities to have whale watching adventures, we go on those. We've been on quite a few at this point. And when it begins, you're always like, oh, is this person really going to be a goofball? Usually by the end, though, it turns out my criticism reader was just cranked up too high, right? Because I don't want it to go off the deep end. I don't want it to turn into like a duck bone type of situation. Usually by the end, though, these things that we go on, they are scientists at the end of the day. And so you've learned a lot, and they actually are sometimes droll and dry. And by the end, I'm usually happy. I can't remember the last time I've been stuck on one where it's actually as bad as kind of what you're describing here. But, you know, there is a way to walk that line to be entertaining towards the kids and to keep people's attention without being totally dry. But, yeah, there's also a way that you can just make everybody on that boat want to kill you, including the children.

00:17:04 - 00:17:20 | Speaker 2:

I was just like staring off like into the middle distance. And, you know, like I was masked even though we're outside. So Beck and I are masked, which was let's just say it's a appears to be a lightly enforced mask policy here in Texas. Did they know what it was?

00:17:21 - 00:17:22 | Speaker 1:

Did you have to explain it to anybody?

00:17:23 - 00:19:06 | Speaker 2:

I mean, wow. And peace and love to our listeners that are down here in Texas. I know that there are all kinds of folks that live here, and so I don't want to overly generalize. But let's just say I'm getting some real looks. Because, I mean, I'm kind of really getting – like I'm going in the – I'm not wearing an N95, but I'm wearing a K95 now, which is, I guess, not quite as extreme as an N95. But it's more extreme than like what I had been doing because it's just, you know, the news keeps the news keeps making me more and more concerned about being in even outdoors in public situations. And so anyway, I've been really masking up, as was Becca. And it's really like we are very much when we were very much the outsiders, if you will, or very much the kind of oddballs with those masks on. But anyway, I'm just like I was kind of glad I had a mask because I was like, this helps. This is a this is a bit of a piece of armor between me and this comedy. Like I have a mask on my face is kind of covered. So I don't feel as much pressure to laugh because even if I were to laugh, you wouldn't hear it through the mask. So I kind of I was just leaning off the side of the boat, just staring at a just series of like the worst chain restaurants. A Bubba Gump Shrimps A What's it called Joe's Crab Shack You know just like every one of those Kinds of restaurants and that was the other thing We went by I think it's Joe's Crab Shack where the joke is They're mean to you And they do this thing where they like They put this White paper bag on your head And they write a message on it like I don't like My family or something I know this is something you know nothing about

00:19:06 - 00:19:21 | Speaker 1:

I don't think that I think I have a – I could be wrong, but I think I have a relative who worked at Joe's who may or may not be listening to this. And I think that the point there is that every now and then they break out in a dance. I don't think that's the angry place. That might be a Utica thing. Maybe.

00:19:22 - 00:19:33 | Speaker 2:

And maybe it was like kind of depends on the particular Joe's Crab Shack location. I don't like my family. Yeah. That's what a person had that written on, this bag on their head.

00:19:33 - 00:19:37 | Speaker 1:

it's like totally covering their head like the like when the browns were losing all the time

00:19:37 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 2:

people would just put bags over their heads like that no it's like a pope's hat oh so it's like some white bag again i'm i know there's a story i'm sure that like the original joe's crab shack in tallahassee you know there was like some waiter who used to do this funny thing and then it like people you know people liked it and they thought and so then it became it's literally like i'm sure they're trained.

00:20:00 - 00:20:24 | Speaker 1:

on how to do it now but you just walk by or in this case float by and there's just like various people sitting there eating uh you know their their whatever their lunch and they're wearing these hats but then you have to write something on the hat and it's always some kind of like bad thing like so this lady's literally wearing one of these paper bags on her head that just says like i don't like my family or something i just like how is this how you want to spend

00:20:24 - 00:20:39 | Speaker 2:

your saturday in san antonio my dog likes my neighbor more than me that's it bags like just get more and more weird and obscure and sad right messages get an ai program to just write

00:20:39 - 00:22:19 | Speaker 1:

things that are going to go on these hats that are all just sort of like perplexing for reasons that you sort of can't put your finger on so we're going we're in the boat and he goes literally this is like pretty early on in the trip he goes hey is that a clan rally who oh and we all look to the edges holy shit i know which that actually gave me hope for a minute i was like i mean i think there's a better joke there but i was like and he was like is there a is that a kkk rally i'm just kidding and we look over and i just realized it's just the people at joe's crab shack wearing their hats about not liking their families that's not that's not a yeah no that's not a good joke but i guess you have my attention sir like i went by a hospital okay i'm gonna say something well i don't know i i want i let me i'll be general okay we went by a hospital that i guess was the first air conditioned hospital in either texas or the country and i was like that's an interesting fact and he then says can you imagine trying to have a baby before that air conditioning in that hospital and then he went on to describe the process of childbirth in two with two different things that I had never heard before that were basically like food references but that were clearly a reference to sort of physically what happens to somebody's body when they're giving birth it was so stomach churning Rebecca and I just looked at each other and we're just aghast and then he just said uh but actually you know shout out to our women I don't know how you do it Thank you for giving us life So he describes the birthing process In these unbelievably crude terms And then says shout out to women I don't know how you do

00:22:19 - 00:22:24 | Speaker 2:

And I assume this is a family trip right There are kids on this trip

00:22:24 - 00:22:59 | Speaker 1:

Yes it's mostly children fighting over the gummy bears In their virgin hurricanes That's the other thing Everyone's got these whale bone drinks That are just like a giant You know like green plastic tube Of slushy The adults have alcohol in theirs And then those kind of shots that are like inverted vials of more of the alcohol that you can then like, you know, they are slowly infusing your drink with more booze. But then the kids have their like kiddie ones and then they have like gummy bears in them and the kids are fighting over who gets to eat the gummy bears. So, yes, there were children on this, very much children on this boat.

00:22:59 - 00:23:06 | Speaker 2:

Sounds very sticky, just generally speaking. It was a real sticky situation. Sticky fingers, yeah.

00:23:06 - 00:24:52 | Speaker 1:

then i forget now what the impetus for this next riff he went on was he said something that was an incredibly racist joke about mexicans whoa but he was himself mexican-american which he pointed out was why he was allowed to say it then he went on a riff about immigration and basically like uh he basically had a good take on people who are uh anti-immigrant you know he sort of said something like um he said this very racist joke about about uh mexicans and then he said yeah i went there and then he said i'm allowed to though because i'm uh mexican and then he went on to say i don't understand people who are who are racist and don't want to have don't want people to be able to immigrate to this country and i was like okay you've got me i'm with you on this and then he said something that was i forget exactly what he said but he basically just was calling out people Who are anti-immigrant And Becca and I looked at each other From behind our masks and were like Yeah, we agree with this sentiment And then he just sort of like Went into some other Series of terrible jokes That were sort of going nowhere About divorces or something But it was like literally the only thing he said That I at all Could sort of tolerate Was one of the sentences he said about immigration Where he was basically Very kind of directly calling out people who are anti-immigrant and again i was like that's i'm glad he said what he said because i agreed with it i wish he wouldn't have said the racist joke about mexicans but i was also just like that seems like kind of a risky policy when you're leading a boat tour in san antonio texas is to be trying to take on the subject of race or the subject of immigration i guess is really more

00:24:52 - 00:24:59 | Speaker 2:

what i'm talking about i mean i guess texas one thing i learned from the bush years was supposedly Texas, even Texas conservatives have a more

00:25:00 - 00:25:49 | Speaker 1:

easy relationship with uh with border crossing and immigration right am i wrong about that obviously you let's not you know let's not even get into that but um what i was going to say was i feel like were you clenched the entire time yes and also exact way to describe it one other thing just to mention as far as him saying it's okay i can make that joke because i am mexican um i recently look i don't know about you but i i recently took a um a class on appropriate things to say in the workplace and just because you belong to a marginalized community does not mean that your jokes about said marginalized community are okay in the workplace uh because other people might not be comfortable with it just i just wanted to put that out there as um something i learned recently and trying to get my money's worth well there you go and that this was a clear

00:25:49 - 00:26:51 | Speaker 2:

example of that it was the workplace for him the joke felt to be in very poor taste and i just was thinking like you know is there like does anybody complain at the end of this like based on the the childbirth jokes the uh the the anti-mexican joke that he made and all this and it wasn't like we didn't sign up for like um you know the uh like sam kinnison edgy san antonio river tour we didn't like you know book this online and they're just gonna be like hold on to your butts because it's gonna get real out there like that was not the ticket that we bought and i was like i wonder if anybody complains about this guy and then what i got really obsessed with was trying to figure out what the exact right amount of edginess versus not edginess you really need to get the maximum number of tips at the end of the trip because of course as he's pulling the boat and he does the spiel about how basically they get paid in tips it's how he makes his living if you enjoyed the thing please i think i was the only person that tipped him i was gonna ask

00:26:51 - 00:26:59 | Speaker 1:

I was already before you even brought up tips I was going to ask like so what you know How much did you end up tipping at the end I tipped him five dollars

00:26:59 - 00:27:19 | Speaker 2:

I just couldn't I mean it was So bad and he was so Not cut out for this job And yet I just I don't know that his speech did get to me That this is how I make my living and I you know I respect that I guess I don't know I also just feel awkward I couldn't get off the boat Without dropping you know a couple bucks in there

00:27:19 - 00:27:25 | Speaker 1:

Of course. I think that you should always tip at least five bucks in a situation like that. How old was this person, by the way?

00:27:26 - 00:27:36 | Speaker 2:

He was 23. And I know that because at some point he said, in my 23 years on Earth, I've learned this one thing. I forget the thing he learned. But I noted that he said, in my 23 years.

00:27:36 - 00:27:49 | Speaker 1:

I see. Yeah, because I mean, this could have gone anyway. This could have been somebody, you know, our age or even older who's been doing it over and over for decades and kind of making the same jokes. But yeah, that's that's younger than I would have had this person, in fact.

00:27:49 - 00:28:33 | Speaker 2:

And then when we were getting off the boat, this kid, one of the little kids who'd been having a virgin hurricane with gummy bears in it, said to this guy, you should be a comedian. And he said, I get that a lot. And I thought, I bet you that put wind in this dude's sails for like three days. Like an eight-year-old child saying you should be a comedian. And it was because he was making sounds that sounded to an eight-year-old child's ears like they were jokes, but to a 45-year-old person's ears, at least my ears, and Becca's ears, it was really – well, like you said, I was clenched the entire time. It was the longest 25 minutes of my life.

00:28:33 - 00:29:02 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I bet you he does hear that a lot, and I bet you he hears it from kids and from older people, too, who are kind of like, wow. I mean, I know people – as awful as you make this sound, Luke, I know people who – I can already hear the conversation afterwards when they tell us about this wonderful boat trip that they missed. I can totally – I know people in my life who had been totally charmed by this person and probably talking about his edgy humor for quite some time.

00:29:02 - 00:30:11 | Speaker 2:

i know i was like i said i became obsessed for the rest of the weekend with trying to think what would my sort of like patter and banter be if i were you know running that tour and also like you you would need to keep the jokes broad and and basically you would sort of need the jokes to be bad to a certain degree so that like you know i'm not trying to you know speak ill of the folks that are taking the river tour but it's like you know you're getting all kinds on that boat and And so you need a certain amount of sort of broad enough humor that, you know, anyone can get it. But then if you sort of threw down a couple of, like, actually funny, edgy jokes, then you'd get the people like me who are maybe more into that kind of comedy. Like, I was really trying to design the perfect, like, 22-minute set in my head to get the maximum tips. And I thought, I wonder what you can make. Like, if you really hit it off with the crowd, like, can you make, you know, if everyone throws five bucks in and there was, you know, 80 people on this boat, you're talking real money. and then like Could I do this? Could I actually get a boating license in the state of Texas? Maybe they don't need to hear about what happened to me in Washington State. And could I run one of these San Antonio River tour boats and just, you know, make a killing? Is that my plan B?

00:30:12 - 00:30:18 | Speaker 1:

Is that – How far have you taken this plan, by the way? Because if I know you at all, you're already – I applied for a job. You're already probably pricing boats.

00:30:19 - 00:30:47 | Speaker 2:

Yes, I am. I know the exact boat I'm going to try. It's going to be a crisp craft. Anyway, that being said, it was an absolutely lovely weekend in San Antonio, and yeah, it was fun. All right, let's do this. Let's take a quick break, and then we come back. I just want to keep the awkwardness rolling, Andrew, by playing you a little tape of Gillian Anderson being interviewed after she won an Emmy. And we'll also do some emails and V-mails. Coming up here on TBTL.

00:30:53 - 00:30:57 | Speaker 1:

Thank you, baby.

00:30:57 - 00:31:22 | Speaker 2:

Hey, let's thank some donors of the day. These are the wonderful, beautiful, lovely folks who are making the show possible with their donations. People like Micah Shapiro in West Sacramento, born and raised on the playground, is where he spent most of his days. Famously also where Will Smith lived before he moved to Beverly Hills, West Sacramento, California.

00:31:23 - 00:31:31 | Speaker 1:

Famously. I'm starting to feel like maybe you could operate at one of those boat tours. That feels like it's good to get that energy.

00:31:32 - 00:31:45 | Speaker 2:

To your right, you'll see the Bubba Gump Shrimp Company and now let's take a moment where I will wrap the work of early Will Smith to you. That Bubba Gump Shrimp Company's existence is also fascinating.

00:31:45 - 00:32:08 | Speaker 1:

I know. I mean, you probably know more about it than I do, but I mean, it is a chain restaurant that just came up out of the movie Bubba. What the fuck movie is that? Sorry. Tom Hanks plays a character that he probably shouldn't be playing. Forrest Gump. Forrest Gump. Yeah. I mean, really, that movie was just super popular. They're like, well, we could just make a restaurant based on the movie.

00:32:11 - 00:33:11 | Speaker 2:

That's what appears to have happened. And again, over the weekend, because I don't go to a ton of – I have been to a Bubba Gump shrimp company before. I met my friend Seth at one in Chicago on Navy Pier. We had lunch, and it was totally fine. I also feel like I'm sounding so snooty today, like I would never darken the door of any of these places. And it's really not true. I would go to any of them and have probably been to most of them at some point. But, you know, I am perplexed at the existence of Bubba Gump Shrimp Company only because of how much the rights to it must have cost to the company that decided that would be a good thing to make that a real deal. I mean, maybe they just cut the studio or Robert Zemeckis or Tom Hanks in on the profits or something. because yeah it's like that's pretty valuable intellectual property they must have signed some kind of deal that gives them because if you go i think becca was saying sometimes they'll have like a park bench in front of them and there'll be like a statue of forrest gump so you can like sit on the park bench with forrest gump like in the movie or whatever you know what i mean i just

00:33:11 - 00:34:08 | Speaker 1:

think i mean i've never been to one and again if people enjoy it enjoy it like you know i don't care i'm sorry if i'm coming off as being i mean listen these these these huge i don't have like a lot of sympathy like oh we're tearing down Bubba Gump's shrimp company like a small family yeah like they're gonna be fine I think it's okay for you and I to roll our eyes at the huge you know chain restaurants that are there that you only see in you know tourist meccas and again if you're a tourist who enjoys it fine do it to it what do I care but um you're right though it is just fascinating I can't think of like there's no um like what if there was a chain of bars that were based on the cantina in star wars like it's just like you just don't hear about that yeah right yeah i mean the list goes on but i just can't think of any or the list doesn't go on i guess because i can't think of any other property like that except for actually like things in disney world or what have you right right yeah no but the thing is it's also very popular would appear

00:34:08 - 00:34:32 | Speaker 2:

so it worked like whatever this business consortium that decided we should actually make that a real thing that thing they talked about in the movie that Bubba Gump Shrimp Company we should do that and then they went to the studio or whomever and they said we want to license all of this stuff from you and they paid that's so much money to pay before you've even like built one of your restaurants right and then they did that and it worked they were totally right people love it so

00:34:32 - 00:34:48 | Speaker 1:

yeah I mean people I mean there are people at this point this far out from that movie which is what 30 years getting on 30 years that are familiar with the restaurant and might not even know that its origins are with a movie right there are a generation of young people i'll tell you who

00:34:48 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 2:

knows exactly the origin of that restaurant jeff stewart of bainbridge island washington how do i know well because jeff obviously has impeccable taste and is very smart and that is why jeff is a tbtl listener and a tbtl donor

00:35:00 - 00:35:44 | Speaker 1:

Jolene Tashner is in Portland, Oregon. She can give you chapter and verse on Joe vs. the Volcano. That's the Tom Hanks movie that she's particularly into. And she considered starting a theme of South Pacific restaurants. Oh, luggage. That's it. That's exactly what it is. A luggage store that's based on Joe vs. the Volcano. Are you traveling light or heavy? uh then we've got joseph thole in carborough north carolina trying to think of the uh he he opened a store that just sells oversized pianos that you can dance on based on that scene in big

00:35:44 - 00:36:01 | Speaker 2:

is is there a chance is there a chance that joseph's last name is pronounced tole or thole it's very possible i don't know i don't even know i almost said it with an accent i don't know what kind of accent i put on that but i'm just t-h-o-l-e it's very possible so i appreciate

00:36:01 - 00:37:53 | Speaker 1:

you covering that uh that potential pronunciation of the last name hey guillermo ubia is in waynesboro virginia guillermo brought me andrew some virginia peanuts after a wait wait don't tell me uh in um in uh richmond virginia i think is where it was and they were so delicious and i am now a fan of virginia peanuts i ate them all the way home in my drive back to dc because i had to fly out very early the next morning are they prepared in a different way or are they just grown there well i think they're grown there but they i don't know exactly what they do to them but there's something they are tasty so guillermo thank you so much and thanks for supporting the show uh with both uh money and food products and then lisa blum is in bellingham washington hey what up, Lisa? Checking in from my old hometown. I was actually checking into this hotel and I was chatting with the front desk person and he went to Western in Bellingham. And I was like, here we are, just a couple of Bellinghamsters kicking it in the energy corridor that is Katy, Texas. Anyway, thanks to our donors of the day. We would not be here doing the show without you hello and welcome to top story i'm guessing that you didn't watch the emmys last night andrew i certainly didn't i was in a like a football depression because of the the how the seahawk game ended more on that coming up in the no point conversion by the way But I guess they had them last night, and Gillian Anderson won an Emmy for her portrayal of Margaret Thatcher in The Crown. Now, I know that you've been getting into your Windsor docs over on CNN. You've been kind of getting into British history. Are you into The Crown?

00:37:54 - 00:38:51 | Speaker 2:

I was. You know, I didn't quite finish the last season, and there's not a reason for that. I don't know if you're ever like this with a TV show, Luke. where, you know, I really loved the first two seasons, and then it seems like there was quite a bit of a wait for the third season, I could be wrong about that, and then I was enjoying the third season, but then I got to one episode where, and I don't think it's the episode's fault, but for whatever reason, the first time I was watching it, maybe I accidentally fell asleep in the middle of it, so I went back and I re-watched the beginning later, but then something distracted me, and then there's this one episode that I've watched the beginning of, I'm not joking, at least four times, and it's like somehow a speed bump for me and now I keep thinking I gotta go back and finish that series but I gotta start with that episode again and then I'm like I've already started that episode a whole bunch and I don't feel like doing it is that relatable at all or is it just because I move around too much when I watch TV and putter and I don't have the concentration I should

00:38:51 - 00:39:38 | Speaker 1:

it's very odd why it is that I will stick it out on some shows and the reasons why I will just lose my momentum on other shows or find myself not going back it usually and i think people who listen to this show can identify with this it's this feeling sometimes of well i don't have the time to go back and watch all of this or to reacquaint myself with it or whatever and it just feels almost like overwhelming and so then i just don't for whatever reason it can be for like so many weird odd little reasons the reason why i will like spend you know two solid days watching a show and binge watching as we say and the reasons why i lose my momentum are very weird and mysterious at times um but anyway jillian anderson is on the crown and she plays margaret thatcher yeah let me

00:39:38 - 00:39:59 | Speaker 2:

just say one thing about things i did i did want to bring it kind of back to that i will say that i have seen margaret thatcher's episodes or a couple of episodes starring that character and even reading these headlines last night and this morning i'm like oh right that's jillian anderson And she really does, the actor really does get lost in the character. So I'm glad to hear that she won.

00:40:00 - 00:40:05 | Speaker 1:

because I totally had forgotten that's a human being other than Margaret Thatcher. You know what I mean?

00:40:05 - 00:40:34 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's basically what you're trying to do as an actor, right? So if you can actually achieve that, you've really done something. Yeah, Gillian Anderson seems to be a national treasure and has been living in England, I guess post X-Files. She moved to London, and so she's just also been in a ton of really prestige stuff in the UK, Some of which maybe doesn't really make its way over here, although I'm sure my parents have watched it. I'm sure my dad has torrented it and put it on a thumb drive.

00:40:34 - 00:40:57 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's one that people love, some sort of serialized crime drama, like a procedural, I believe, but like a high-quality British procedural that everybody said I had to watch. I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head or if you came across it in reading these write-ups, but I know that she's in one that has been forever on my list, even though I can't think of the name of it.

00:40:57 - 00:43:30 | Speaker 2:

yeah people uh love her over there i mean and over here as well the the other thing was a bunch of people didn't realize she's not british so she wins this emmy and then she gives her acceptance speech and she was actually in london i think maybe i don't know if it was because they're still shooting uh some of this stuff or if it's because you know because of covid she didn't want to travel over to the u.s but so she's in london and she wins and she gives her acceptance speech and i guess you know she's born in chicago i think and she actually talks when she's just using her normal speaking voice she's she's very sort of um folksy and and relaxed which is also like jillian anderson just seems to radiate such intelligence and kind of intensity in a good way that to hear her just kind of being aw shucks about winning and being just really like kind of excited and touched um it threw a bunch of people off because they're just used to her playing margaret thatcher or like these british i guess her like her british accent is just flawless so there was there's a whole generation of people that did not know that jillian anderson is not british or that she founded bubba gums shrimp company exactly um but anyway so after she wins the emmy they tee up these uh four different reporters i think it was four and they let them ask a question and i just would like to say i'm not going to play the whole thing for you but i did listen to all of the questions uh that were posed to her in this little you know post presser and it is other than being on that river boat tour in in san antonio it's basically the last place on earth i'd ever want to be which is like hey it's tom johnson from real stars first of all jillian congratulations it's so cool we're so excited for you it was just like they were pumping mario lopez vibes so hard through the zoom call of that just that like that infotainment entertainment kind of tv show where everyone's just so stoked about everything all the time those were the people asking the questions and i'm not trying to say that this is exactly um you know 60 minutes over here what we're doing but there was just this sacrity quality to what everybody was doing that just made my teeth hurt and just made me so happy that somehow i avoided that being my job and you know i don't i was gonna say maybe we have people listening who work in that business and maybe they have a really fun time it just would not be a good fit for me anyway they finally get to the last question uh and it's a woman i think her name is tanya hart and uh she asks her question kind of continue with the whole margaret thatcher thing

00:43:30 - 00:43:44 | Speaker 4:

first question has if you've talked to her about this role at all and secondly why do you think it has taken america so long to get a female leader so this is the part where i'll mention

00:43:44 - 00:44:07 | Speaker 2:

in case people were not aware margaret thatcher uh has been dead for uh many years now so this reporter is not is unaware that margaret thatcher is not alive and now jillian anderson is in the kind of weird position of like trying to decide how do you answer that question um uh as to if you've talked to margaret thatcher or not here's how she responded now when all these other countries

00:44:07 - 00:44:16 | Speaker 3:

and and look at what margaret did in in the uk uh well i um i i have not spoken to margaret um

00:44:16 - 00:44:29 | Speaker 2:

um you can just hear the wheels turning like do i put this person on blast do i embarrass them do i just keep it moving what do i do here and she does i think the right thing she just keeps it

00:44:29 - 00:44:53 | Speaker 3:

moving and why is it taken that well you know that the uk had um had miss may not that long ago uh which is even before the united states of america so i think maybe maybe the question is why is it taking the United States of America so long to get a female leader but maybe Kamala Harris maybe Kamala Harris maybe that's the next step

00:44:53 - 00:44:59 | Speaker 2:

so there you go that's what she did now the headlines I think over maybe over dramatized it like

00:45:00 - 00:45:28 | Speaker 1:

as if there was a real record scratch moment. I mean, half of the people watching this probably, A, didn't realize Margaret Thatcher's not alive, so they didn't even understand that this was an embarrassing question for the person who asked it, because she just, Jillian Anderson just did the smart thing, which is she just kept it moving, and she just didn't answer that part of the question. Well, I mean, she said she hasn't talked to her, but she didn't take, she didn't stop and go, well, you know, Margaret Thatcher's dead, because that would have been very embarrassing for the person, and I think she handled it with aplomb. Yeah.

00:45:30 - 00:46:38 | Speaker 2:

I want to mitigate what I'm about to say because, no, no, I'm not going to say anything cruel. I'm just like kind of sort of analyzing this in my head. Like what's going through Gillian Anderson's head in that moment about what to say? Like, listen, whenever you're being interviewed after winning an Emmy by the press in a situation like this, it could always make headlines long before social media. This is what I wanted to sort of mitigate because I was going to say, like, if she had just said the slightly wrong thing there or if she had somehow even accidentally or unintentionally kind of owned this reporter by correcting her or embarrassing her, this could have been like the big viral story on Monday. I had seen this somewhere, so I knew what was coming. I hadn't heard the tape, but I sort of knew it was coming on that tape. But it's not like the big story coming out of the Emmys, whereas, like, just depending on what kind of fertile ground the news landscape has on any given Monday, that could have been something that had already ping-ponged around every social media site. And everybody was like, you know, hashtag, I don't know, Gillian. I'm sorry, Gillian owns. It's Gillian, right? I just got in my head there for a second. Yes. Gillian, yeah.

00:46:38 - 00:46:45 | Speaker 1:

Gillian because it's because is it Gillian Welch or Gillian Welch yeah I don't know I feel like I

00:46:45 - 00:46:50 | Speaker 2:

always I always get them wrong all of them and I and I I'd like to release a joint statement

00:46:50 - 00:46:56 | Speaker 1:

Gillian and Gillian just clarifying anyway so I'm I'm rambling now I mean again I don't want

00:46:56 - 00:47:19 | Speaker 2:

to make it sound like before social media there wasn't any repercussions or things you said directly to the press when you just won an Emmy but it does seem like it could move it could fly around the globe a lot faster and get spun into something even again unintentionally negative very quickly so you like you said you could really it was interesting to hear that tape because you could really hear her already thinking like what does this look like on instagram you

00:47:19 - 00:48:32 | Speaker 1:

know right right and so much of it the narrative becomes what are just like the headlines that that the media decides to run with right and i i feel nervous even saying that because i think in our the current version of our world a lot of people who have bad takes they like to just vilify the media and they like to basically act like the media is the problem and i think you know when it comes to like the vaccine and things i don't think the media is lying about it if you're talking about the new york times or cnn or whatever you know what i mean like i feel like there's a lot of people who now just go wow the media and then that's their excuse to like not believe in gravity so i don't want to do that but it is true the one thing that is true about the media is that if yeah if she would have said well even nicely if she would have said well yeah i haven't talked to her because margaret thatcher is dead if the headline was uh jillian welch dunks on idiot reporter and then that just picks up steam and then that's just getting reposted everywhere and everyone's tweeting then that is the story there and so it was nice that she that she avoided that for that reporter because of course that reporter was you know just trying to do their thing they just you'd think that if you were going to ask a question about margaret thatcher you might just

00:48:32 - 00:49:13 | Speaker 2:

Google her yeah you know in hindsight though and again she didn't have hindsight she was in the moment and I think she did a good job I think though in hindsight if you can workshop that answer I think it's appropriate to say no unfortunately she passed away before I started preparing for this role but I did have access to so much footage and research material and like somehow like kind of turned that answer into something a little bit meatier that kind of says like i did get an inside you know i felt like i i was i was given a lot of materials to have an inside look at this fascinating historical character that would have been a good answer without like necessarily writing on it but again she's in the moment i'm just thinking about this

00:49:13 - 00:49:29 | Speaker 1:

the next day what if she what if she said well it wasn't since she's dead it wasn't like they were gonna dig her up and have me talk to her i'm just kidding on your right you'll see this That was the first air-conditioned hospital in all of Texas.

00:49:30 - 00:49:44 | Speaker 2:

We were going to do a Weekend at Margaret's movie. That was a Weekend at Bernie's joke. Just kidding. On the left, you will see a host who will not make any more bad jokes. Anyway, yeah, good job.

00:49:44 - 00:50:00 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, so good job, Jillian Anderson, on your Emmy win and also for taking the nice road with this reporter, who I'm sure is quite embarrassed this morning. And again, I think living essentially, would you say that is probably...

00:50:00 - 00:50:35 | Speaker 2:

would be would you would you just retire at that point if you asked a question like that in that sort of public a way that was so not researched because i feel like you you know i don't want to like i don't want to try to tell you how you feel about things but my sense in talking to you is that if you do something that feels embarrassing to you around maybe um making a mistake in that kind of way it really lives with you for a long time mine live with me too all they probably should live with me longer but like I feel like that just be the end of your reporting career if you ask the question like that in that kind of public way probably but that's also why I don't

00:50:35 - 00:52:43 | Speaker 1:

have that job and why I'm not suited for that job I mean my guess is this reporter isn't anywhere as anywhere near as mortified as you and I would be now right you have taken that path I don't I don't mean I really do not mean to turn this into like a you know I'd have a darker turn here or have a moment where you have to say it's okay Andrew we want you to live but like I will say Luke every time I am driving from Seattle to the airport something I just did recently to drop Genevieve off something I'll be doing this evening to pick her up I pass Burien and do you know I know where you're going with this and I mean I just we want you to live I just Luke every time I see the sign for the off-ramp for this town of Burien, which is just south of Seattle, I physically cringe. Like, I tighten up, I cringe, and I just think, oh, Andrew. And for folks who don't know, as you shouldn't know, for a brief moment there when I was, like, hosting a show on Cairo Radio, some people made the mistake of thinking that I could lead a, like, a candidate forum for the small town of Burien. The way they would, you know, have, you know, they would reach out to somebody like dave ross who's like a veteran newsman in seattle and knows things well of course you can't get him so you just keep going down the ladder until you get this guy who hosts this night show and i uh and somebody was nice enough to ask me and i thought like this could be the moment where i start doing things like this where people start taking me seriously and it was a shit show it was awful i don't remember exactly how luckily my brain has obscured the the most painful and and um wincy details of it but like i didn't freaking belong up there and it was clear to anybody in the room and there are some people who don't belong up there but can act like they belong up there and just have the tone of voice like it's that is just not a place for a self deprecating guy you know and i'm trying to lead a candidate forum about things that matter i just remember i remember just like slinking out of that place and now like i literally cannot go to burion anymore i mean they they are fine with it i think but i can't i can't allow myself to be

00:52:43 - 00:55:42 | Speaker 2:

in the in the city border of burien i bet you that it was so much less bad than your body which is keeping the score is telling you but i also know that feeling i don't know if this came up last time we talked about this but my i have had versions of that too where i was like you know they wanted some real person from the radio station but none of the real people wanted to do something and so then i sort of showed up and what mortified me about those things were just no like how kind of um nobody asked nobody was like oh god i hope we can get luke burbank to show up at this oyster eating competition for that's raising money for um puget sound restoration that was like the first one where literally a fax came out of the fax machine that was like does anybody want to come from the radio station and be a like celebrity oyster eater and everybody else at the station was like no and I was like the intern but I was like I would like to be a celebrity and I'll eat oysters like I don't think I'd ever had a raw oyster in my life by the way as well so this was like an oyster slurping contest where you stand at this big long table with other actual local celebrities and you have your like hands are behind your back and you have to eat these oysters out of the shell as many of them as you can and whoever eats the most wins i had literally never even seen an oyster in this condition like i was i was just like but again it was so mortifying because it's and again i don't think anyone else there cared about it but i am embarrassed of it 25 years later because i just feel like there must have been people going okay that's tall paul from the country station that's the guy who won by the way that's steve pool from como these are all like these are people we know there's like a 22 year old person here from where he's who what looks like he hasn't eaten in a while right like for some like I don't know why that embarrasses me so much that I was trying to play it off like I was some celebrity or something but the only thing that's changed I'm not more famous now it's just I'm more comfortable showing up somewhere where there are people gathered and then me playing the role of someone that those are that I'm someone those people are supposed to care about I just if that makes sense. Yeah, I'm sorry to cut you off. I just was Googling because I was like, is there a record of me doing this candidate form in Burien? So I just Googled Burien candidate form. The easy answer is no, there's nothing specifically related to that. But for some reason, those keywords I punched in brought up three results, two of which don't make any sense at all. And then the third one, which is Puget Sound dot media slash broadcasters. And it looks like it's just a list of broadcasters from the region. Mine ends rather starkly. Andrew Walsh, Cairo radio producer turned talk show host, 7 to 10 p.m., started December 3rd, 2012. This is information I didn't even know, by the way. Started December 3rd, 2012. That career ended November of 2013.

00:55:43 - 00:56:02 | Speaker 2:

Walsh made occasional visits slash fill-in on Cairo since then. I mean, to say that my career continued. Yeah, it's a little intense. That gig stopped. Let me see if you're on this thing, by the way. Uh-oh. Oh, yeah. Okay, here we go. I forget what's it say about me. Okay. This is maybe slightly out of date.

00:56:02 - 00:56:08 | Speaker 3:

Showed up at a noise-to-reading contest at age 22 trying to impersonate a local celebrity with disastrous results.

00:56:08 - 00:56:29 | Speaker 2:

Luke Burbank, Cairo talk host, now co-hosting with Dave Ross at Cairo FM, in parentheses, like the hard parentheses, like the square ones, had popular evening show, TBTL, Too Beautiful to Live, end parentheses, and podcast while between gigs that was very popular. It was very popular. I wonder who you did between gigs.

00:56:29 - 00:56:46 | Speaker 3:

I mean, I'll take the misapplied use of popular to describe TBTL, like the radio show. I mean, it was so popular, we were fired. That's how popular it was. But, I mean, in the ratings. But I also just wonder, I wonder who was inputting this information.

00:56:46 - 00:57:20 | Speaker 2:

This is such a strange website. This is Puget Sound Media, Pacific Northwest Broadcasting, History and Current Affairs. You know, current, like you're still hosting the Cairo show with Dave Ross. But there are also air checks here. Do you know Burl Bearer of KOL? Oh, no, he was on the air in 1969. Some of these, there's a KRKO station ID from 1993. I could try playing for you. Do you know KRKO in Everett? Let's just take a listen and see if this works. Although this could be one of those things where the audio isn't even behind the player anymore. Let's take a listen.

00:57:24 - 00:57:25 | Unknown:

What?

00:57:25 - 00:57:41 | Speaker 2:

A radio institution Into our seventh decade of service To Snohomish County This is KRKO Everett I have a new favorite website, Luke Let's wrap up the show Because my afternoon is now booked

00:57:41 - 00:57:50 | Speaker 1:

Here I go once again with the email Every week I hope that it's from a female No, man It's not from a female

00:57:50 - 00:58:00 | Speaker 3:

Could you help with Like one email or one v-mail before you descend into the Puget Sound broadcasting archives for the rest of your life?

00:58:01 - 00:59:12 | Speaker 2:

By the way, I got a bunch of emails and text messages and tweets and what have you from listeners who wanted me to know the name of the little character I was trying to think of on, I believe, Friday's show. Do you remember? I don't know what we were talking about, but I said, you know, the little drawing of the character who's peeping over a wall with a long nose going down? I'll read this from Stephen in Brooklyn, New York, who says, hey, hermanos. Maybe a few other people have written to you about it, but you were talking about Kilroy was here. The Kilroy was here drawing. Anyway, maybe you've been thinking about it. Maybe you haven't. There is a link to the Wikipedia page. Kilroy was here. I believe we've covered this on the show before, too. And I believe we will cover it again in five years when I forget about this conversation. Is a meme. Wow. They use meme. popular during World War II, typically seen as graffiti. Origin is debated, but the doodle is associated with G.I.s in the 1940s, a bald-headed man sometimes depicted as having a few hairs with a prominent nose peeking over a wall with his fingers clutching the wall. So it's something from G.I. culture in the 1940s, World War II.

00:59:12 - 00:59:19 | Speaker 3:

Now, is that also related to what is the, like, prog rock song

00:59:19 - 00:59:47 | Speaker 2:

where they're yelling Kilroy? Oh, my gosh. I have a drop of you saying Kilroy. That's the band that does Mr. Roboto. Is it Mr. Roboto? Or maybe it is Mr. Roboto. Yeah. We've covered all this ground. And I'm wondering if this is actually why we got to – I'm not going to play you yelling Kilroy. I don't think you want to hear that. I don't think anybody wants to hear that. But I wonder if this is the exact same path that we took to get to Kilroy was here last time. Yeah. So thank you for that.

00:59:47 - 00:59:54 | Speaker 3:

Troy Was Here is a short film made to tie in with the Styx album of the same name. It was played at the beginning of each Styx show on their 1983 tour.

00:59:55 - 00:59:59 | Speaker 2:

There you go. Yeah, I remember we talked about it because it's kind of a concept album.

01:00:00 - 01:01:18 | Speaker 1:

Let me read you one more, just one more quickie here that I know that you and I both read and we found interesting. We were talking about Norm MacDonald passing too early. Do we say passing? Dying, I should say. We're not using euphemisms around death anymore, right? Dying last week, and our buddy Hollywoo Mike, who's like an audio producer and mixer in Hollywood, says, hearing those clips you played of Norm MacDonald on today's show, Hit Me in the Feels. They were from his show, Hitler's Dog, Gossip and Trickery. I mixed that special, and I got to work with Norm briefly. Like you guys, I was a fan of his work for decades. I also distinctly remember his serial killer bit and his Conan appearance with Courtney Thorne-Smith. Norm was unsurprisingly both very odd and very funny to work with. Two small random stories. One, he wanted to call his special just Hitler's dog with no further explanation, but I guess the executives got scared and made him add the rest. Another story, during my playback of the show with him, So I guess this is like, so he's recorded the show. Mike has mixed it. They're sitting in a studio together, I'm assuming. Another story. During my playback of the show with him, he drank six Red Bulls and ate five ice cream sandwiches. This was at 10 a.m. on a Monday. Anyway, thanks for the great memorial of Norm from Hollywood Mike.

01:01:19 - 01:01:29 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's that's so that's he seems he seemed Norm MacDonald seems so kind of laconic. He seemed like a person who'd never had a Red Bull in his life.

01:01:29 - 01:02:09 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know. I was sort of thinking the same thing. That's not exactly how I had him. Although you mentioned that he actually struggled with his gambling issues. And sometimes I associate like, I mean, you've seen more of this world. Obviously, I've seen almost zero of this world. But you've seen a bit of that world where do you think there is something that is connected to people like kind of being speedy and sitting around, you know, poker tables or what have you, as opposed to me? Like, my vice is drinking, right? Like, I love me some drinks. I'm not a gambler because I think that you'd lose your edge. But I could see the people who are really into the world of gambling horfing down sugar and Red Bull products.

01:02:09 - 01:02:49 | Speaker 2:

Yes, it's definitely – I mean, the thing about – well, I'm thinking mostly of poker. But the thing about the really, like, people that are actually trying to make a living at poker is the hours are actually really crushing. Because you have to just be sitting there for days folding. You have to just be sitting there not playing hands because they're not good hands for most of the time so that you're also there when you get a good hand or whatever. So it's really this like this grind. And so I could see and, you know, I could see Red Bull being part of the whole thing. But it's just it's just so funny because that just he just seemed like such a relaxed guy to be downing the Red Bull like that. But who knows?

01:02:49 - 01:03:18 | Speaker 1:

Is that what you're down upon if you're sitting around a table and you're just, I mean, I guess that's why, never mind, you don't have to explain poker to me now. Well, everyone has their own system. Yeah, but I just wonder, like, because I know that there are also unsaid rules and you can piss other people off at the table, like, if you're just going around. But I guess that's also why they have the, what do you call it, the forced bets that you have to do every time it comes around to you. The blinds. The blinds, right, yeah. So I guess that, is that why you have the blinds? Because otherwise people just sit there forever and not have any buy-in. Yes, exactly.

01:03:18 - 01:04:42 | Speaker 2:

You have the blinds so that, well, one thing, the casino will take what's called a rake. So they actually are going to take a percentage of that pot that's created by the blinds and then whatever the money goes in there. But there are definitely hands where it just gets folded around like no one even plays. And so to make sure the casino still gets some money, there are these blinds. And also to make sure that if you win a hand, there's at least some money in there. So you could get like pocket aces, right? And you could, if there were no blinds, and you got pocket aces, and then you put a bet out of $10, and then no one, everyone just folded, then you just win nothing, right? Like, if there's not blinds. So, basically, there's always some money in the pot, even if you don't get any takers on your bet. You can at least win a little something. So, those are called the blinds. And as far as, like, what people consume, I mean, everyone's different. But, like, the really, like, serious good poker players, very few of them ever drink because they're usually sitting there with, you know, like, AirPods in, like, listening to, like, I don't know what, some kind of music and being very serious about what they're doing and drinking, you know, like, water or something. And then you get a Yehu, like me, who kind of blows in and is, like, ordering drinks and then losing their money because I'm into it for the good time, not for the, like, being a good poker player. So there's kind of a range of people.

01:04:42 - 01:04:53 | Speaker 1:

Were you a little jelly this weekend? Seeing I saw that some friends on the text chain were starting to develop some plans. And I think they ended up going to a card room or something. I know you were down. It sounds like you were having a nice time in Katy, Texas.

01:04:53 - 01:05:12 | Speaker 2:

I was having a very nice time in San Antonio. But I will say that, yeah, when I heard that the small contingent. of the gang was getting back together and maybe heading out somewhere in the direction of Goldie's brought back some memories for me. It sure did. But anyway. All right. We should wrap things up because we've still got a sports show to record, my friend.

01:05:12 - 01:05:15 | Speaker 3:

How about some Blind Melon while we're talking about Blinds?

01:05:15 - 01:05:23 | Speaker 2:

Oh, that's good. Some of Shannon Hoon's work. Oh, nice. I believe was the lead singer of Blind Melon.

01:05:23 - 01:05:40 | Speaker 3:

This is one of those records where I bought the whole record at one point because I love this song so much and it really was one of those records where I was like, wow, nothing sounds like No Rain on this record. It's all like kind of that grunge era with like funky, heavy bass guitar slapping kind of. That's the rest of the album.

01:05:43 - 01:05:57 | Speaker 2:

Well, I like this song a lot. And that's what we're going to go out with on this Monday. Thanks for listening, everyone. We will be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you. Until then, have a great Monday. Stay safe. Take care of yourselves. Mask up. Vax up. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

01:05:59 - 01:06:52 | Speaker 1:

My point of view But it's not safe It's not safe I just want someone to send me I'll always be there when you wait You know I like to keep my cheeks dry today So stay with me and I'll have it made And I don't understand why I sleep all day And I start to complain that there's no way And all I can do is read a book to stay awake

01:06:52 - 01:07:42 | Speaker 4:

this is one of my personal favorite parts of the tour please say hello to our residents pedro and his wife inez inez is holding a clay pot that she seems very proud of she has carefully detailed it with lots of paint and glaze and pedro is working on an adobe can you say that with me adobe The mainstay of the Alamo diet is corn. Corn can be prepared in many ways. It can be boiled, shucked, creamed, or in this case, dried. Corn can also be used to make tortillas. Yes, there are thousands and thousands of uses for corn, all of which I will tell you about right now.

01:07:42 - 01:07:43 | Speaker 1:

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