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Let's listen to guys talking, okay. Alright, welcome back everyone, this is guys talking. Alright, guys talking, let's do this. Just guys, you know, chopping it up as we do. And you know what's crazy? What's that, man? I love just chopping it up with you guys too. I feel like I could talk to you guys about anything. Exactly. Yeah, I don't mean to make it weird or anything, but I just love it. Yeah, you know, you chop it up, but like, other times we get like, pretty deep and like, real. Yeah, exactly. You're so crazy. Who are you talking about, me? Yeah, you. He's right, he's right, he's right. Yeah, you're like a wild man. What can I say? Exactly, man. Sometimes I just gotta get wet and wild with it. Exactly, man. I love you. Got our first caller. What's up, man? Thanks for calling in to Guys Talking. Hey, is this Guys Talking? Yeah, yeah. Oh my god, I love you guys. Thanks, man. We love you too. Yeah, thanks, man. You guys remind me of how me and my friends talk to each other and, like, interact and whatnot. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I feel like if we met up in person, we'd really hit it off and whatnot. I'm sure we would, man. Let's meet up in person. Okay. That was so weird. Yeah, that made me feel not good. TVTL!

luckily for me i've processed all my feelings and i've gone through the five stages of grief denial anger internet commenting cat adoption african dance cat returning to the adoption place watching all the episodes of murphy brown and not giving a flying fart how many stages is

that guess what it's illegal it's literally illegal i can't compete with you physically

and you're no match for my brain that was funny yeah i know that was good that was like smooth Hey, we have the same taste in words.

Paint your bald spot. What bald spot? Paint your bald spot. I'm sick. What's your story? Talk to me.

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of TBTL, a show that just might be too beautiful to live. Even if you know someone well, you cannot predict how a person will react to a joke or comment. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host coming to you from the Nest Broadcast Center. high in the sky above portland oregon i'm back i've returned golly is it nice to be back home and also back in my normal little uh setup here looking out on the streets of portland oregon where we actually have a uh decent chance of it raining today didn't know you like to get I didn't realize that yesterday was the autumn equinox, the same amount of light in the southern hemisphere as northern hemisphere, I believe. And I also think it's the first. Is that actually the first day of fall? Anyway, definitely air temperature feels different up here in Portland. It did down there in old Katy, Texas. We have a great show in store for you. Episode 3517 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. A story that we didn't get to yesterday when I was in Texas, the young adult author who kind of hit a creative, I don't know, sort of brick wall, and so he started channeling his creativity into coming up with very elaborate family problems that he was then submitting to Slate to the Dear Prudence column.

Your story is a beautiful story. From my point of view, it's a beautiful story. I love your story.

Is it immoral? I mean, here's a question for Dear Prudence. Dear Prudence, was it immoral when I submitted 50 fake scenarios to Dear Prudence? We will ask that question of ourselves coming up in a moment. Also, the commission in Europe is seeking to standardize the inputs on cell phones, Basically saying, all of y'all cell phone makers have to get on the same USB-C type of deal.

I'm trying to use that phone!

Because we have so much electronics waste. Because, as you know, every nine months, there's a new dang charging system. And it's just really bad for the environment, and it's bad for consumers. Apple is, of course, the big holdout because they have that lightning cable. Anyway, we'll talk about that. And it's a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day. So we'll do the Blur's Day messages. We'll do all that with the help of this young man, longest running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. We've been going fairly ham on management the last few weeks involving all this training that we've got to do. And he'd like to make one thing very clear right here at the top of the show. First things first, I love my job. He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend.

good morning luke i can't even say good morning it's gonna be a wild ride give me any um date luke give me any date between the first of this year and today any date any date that is a

january 1st 2021 until today september 23rd

2021 start with january 11th as the earliest uh january 17th actually no no no no my daughter's

birthday february 17th february 17th um let me take a look here on the spreadsheet the intro that day was intro number 694 the simpsons uh meets the critic sartre scooby-doo can do intro that's what we started with my my spreadsheet that i started at the beginning of this year luke is filling out nicely, as I hate to say this, as we start thinking about rounding out this year. We're already well into fall now, it feels like, although I guess it was just the Equinox. Is it the Equinox? Is that what you said? It's the Equinox, right?

I believe it's called the Equinox, and that means that the amount of daylight that you're getting in both hemispheres is equal. Right. Are you saying you're using a spreadsheet to track all of the intros? I am.

Isn't that for techno?

i am i've been i have not done this you know i've been i don't know how long have i been making these intros for the show like oh god six years eight i don't know if i've been i think i've only been with this show for like nine years but anyway whenever we started doing this i i've always

been at least i'm now overestimating how long you've worked on the show remember that's true i was thinking you'd work for the show for like six months you were going into like year five and a half and you were like at some point you have to recognize that i've been working here

a long time 2012 i think i you know somebody's got the date written down somewhere i believe my

anniversary of joining qtl as a regular coming up on 10 years i know as a like a regular as a

regular you know voice or contributor cobro um but yeah so i've always just randomly kind of made these intros i have always numbered them uh because in the old days i would make them and then send them to you right intro number 55 or whatever and then you would play them and then at one point i started playing them but then at the beginning of this year i started to think like there's got to be a better way of remembering if i've already played winnebago man it's hot everybody calm down you know like did i play that two months ago or has it been almost a year because i don't want to repeat these things too much you know so now it's going to be very hot it's going to be very uncomfortable for everybody i don't want any bs from anybody and that goes for me i think he says that as well so anyway so give me another date give me one more date and then i'll i'll uh put

my spreadsheet away but it has to be a weekday i don't want any more bullshit any time during the

day from anyone that includes me um another date okay gotta be a weekday though that's the one thing oh okay well i don't know the weekdays off the top of a giant calendar that's true yeah

You're surrounded by calendars.

I'm surrounded by calendars. Let's go for May 5th, Cinco de Mayo. And also, when's your birthday again? Oh, thanks for remembering. It was a Saturday this year.

It's the 8th. The 8th. Okay. I always think your birthday is Cinco de Mayo, but it's not on. Well, that's because I live Moss. That is true. Let's see here. Maybe I can actually play May 5th. We had a little girl talking about Seinfeld Joe. I thought you were bearing the lead.

I'm like, he does great of those. How can I do those if I'm going to be a comedian or a writer?

And then it goes on from there. Yes, I love my spreadsheet.

I just want to hear that whole intro.

I know. Do you want me to play it again? Do you want me to hear the whole thing? All right, let's just do it. Yeah, just play it, please.

And then you have to enter it in a sub. Nope, doesn't count.

A sub-sell of the spreadsheet for today's show because it's also been played? Nope, I'm looking. I see that we're eight minutes into the show, which means everybody's stopped listening. This is all free times now.

I'm watching Seinfeld, and I'm like, he does great of those. How can I do those if I'm going to be a comedian or a writer? I don't even know how to write. Or a storyteller. I don't even know how to do stories that funny.

I don't know how to do stories that funny.

Seinfeld! He does really good jokes And I can't do that much jokes Because nobody laughs at me And I need someone to tweet me We need to copy him You need to print it off So I can do each word at a time And I need to memorize that So I can do each word at a time He does great of those How can I do those If I'm going to be a comedian or a writer I don't even know how to write

There's a loop there at the end That person who posted that I believe Probably not the girl herself Named Grace Spellman on Instagram To give credit there

That's like someone miked up my inner child You should have

You have this so you can chop it up because there's a million little drops in there that you could use at the beginning of the show. Not to mention that, I mean, that kid's general sort of state of being is my general state of being. You need somebody to tweet you. I need someone to tweet me. And, like, how do I get better at jokes and how do I become more of an influencer and be more like Seinfeld? Yep. He's really good at those.

He's really good at those. Oh, man. Love her. Okay. End of the game. But I had to get us started with something. So there we go.

So for the first however many years of you being the keeper of the flame on those intros, you just had to rely on your memory of how recently did we play that? Because even with my responsibilities here of playing these little audio drops that I do, I feel like I have no sense of if I've played some. I mean, there are some of them that I do know I'm playing fairly frequently of late just because I like to...

I know you like to get wet, though. Wait, have you played that one before?

But there's a lot of them that I just completely – I just – my brain is such Swiss cheese at this point that I just can't remember when I played anything. So, yeah, I'm glad you have a system because otherwise I think you'd be driving yourself crazy going, did we just play this one?

Yeah, exactly. Today I was going back looking for some tape, and I stumbled on some old ones, like not just the small little – the short drops that we play in the montages or in your intros, But some some longer, like good, dry intro tape, which I'm always very picky about. Right. And just finding the right vibe. But every now and then I come across one from way back in the day that we haven't used in forever. And I should pull the I should pull those out of the mothballs. Plus, you have a whole bunch. I mean, you were doing this for a long, long time before I was ever even a glean. Mine are probably all inappropriate by today's standards. I don't know. I don't know. Every now and then you go back in the archives, you hit play on an old TBT. I'm just like, oh, my God, why are we not using that tape all the time now? And I know why. It's because you've either broken or lost 100 computers between the beginning of TBTL and now.

Well, let's just do this. Let's just go, okay, fine. I just typed intro into my – this is the only system I have for saving these things, by the way, which is iTunes, which I don't even subscribe to anymore, or Apple Music, whatever they call it. So some of them are, like, labeled. A lot of them will say, you know, Blizzard's intro, snow, winter, cold, best friends, eastbound intro. But then a lot of them just say the intro and the number, intro number 47, intro number 11. They're all the same length because ultimately there's just like all this music underneath them. Should we just listen to intro number 47 at total random? Yes.

Now, if it's numbered like that, it probably means that that was one that I probably sent you back in the day.

Were you calling them, were you numbering them like that?

Yeah, it was intro and then a number, yeah. Because all of mine remained intro, all of mine, and I still have every single one. Okay, so that seems like a very Andrew-y thing, right?

That does, actually. I was kind of surprised. I thought that maybe the system, like GarageBand, was auto-generating that, and I was just letting it do it. But no, that makes way more sense, because mine have a series of impossible, like, there's no consistency to it. It's just whatever I decided to call it in that moment. Like, how about this one here?

Jimmy Haslam! Did you buy a f***ing team To watch Brian f***ing Hoyer Go three and f*** it out Every f***

Alright, this is a little Yelly for a Thursday morning That's a frustrated Browns fan We need to reach out to that person And let them know that things do get better With the Cleveland Browns eventually

Hi, we're from the future And you're actually kind of Your team's pretty decent How about this? How about something that says Ballet skiing intro

Balancing on his tips and his pulls There's no hands. He'll go directly from this into a back-tucked somersault without ever touching his tails. That takes a lot of strength. 25-year-old Richard Schaubel, the current world champion. Here he's getting set for his one-and-a-half twisting pole flip. Beautiful, feet glued together. Nice aerial long around. I spent some time with Richard in Germany. When he's not ballet skiing, believe it or not, he likes to drive his Audi Quattro at about 120 miles an hour down the Autobahn. I love how – like my shit makes too much sense.

I love the randomness of that stuff. Damn.

That's what I'm talking about. Well, that's – I think that might be the best example of that because the rest of them are just kind of like – I think they're fairly straightforward, like eastbound and down. Let's hear what Blizzard intro snow winter. Wait, let me take a guess.

Is this somebody peeing in the snow or making a phallic-shaped snow, maybe?

Maybe, although I also wonder if this doesn't have some of that, like, White Christmas, that song Snow woven into it that I'm such a sucker for.

Roads closed. Pipes frozen. Albinos virtually invisible. The Weather Service has upgraded Springfield's blizzard from—

Did you hear Harry Shearer is— retiring no i didn't yeah i guess he's uh not going to do the simpsons anymore starting at

some point yeah i wonder a long run i mean jeez i mean that's the thing it's like i have i mean

between the simpsons and like 30 rock although maybe it's maybe that that has changed a little bit over time but the simpsons are just such a fundamental part of this show and my sense of humor and also just the audio drops that we play um and so anything where the simpsons are changing or someone's retiring or leaving or passes away, I feel bummed. Then I also ask myself, have I watched The Simpsons in the last 10 years, a new episode, and the answer is no. And could somebody do a very passable Mr. Burns? Yeah, right. Probably so. So I guess I have to just sort of kind of keep it in contact. To me, it's like my brain feels like The Simpsons is still the hottest show on TV, and I can't believe someone's leaving it, but it's been 30 years.

It's been a while. that reminds me i this is massively inappropriate for me to tell you on the air i meant to tell you this off the air but one of our managers and we have a lot of managers these days one of our ever-growing list yes and not the not the person that we report to directly by the way who i and i'm not just saying this to um save my ass but it's not the person we report to directly first i love my job exactly i actually i really much enjoy working with her but another manager i was on a call with the other day said to me luke well you don't like just plan on doing tbtl forever do you and i was like i'm glad that you see the future in the product ma'am would that be why you release press releases that list all of tb all of apm's podcasts but leave ours off it

yeah camaro kev saw a press release in some industry rag that was talking about our fancy new logo and our cool new APM on demand offerings and I also think that was the same press release that we were omitted from like do you think anybody says that to Nora in like a one on one? Would you say that to Tom Petty?

Oh actually while we're just playing tape do you know what I found Billy Bob right? That's Billy Bob when I was going through tape today coincidentally our friend Bean of the Cup of Tea in the chat podcast he collected all of Of the Billy Bob parts of that interview Where he was all sulky That was on the radio program Q right With John Gomeshi back in the night

Yeah with the now disgraced host John Gomeshi I mean who knew that the host of that Would ultimately be the person that we revile the most After that incident Actually you know wait Was that John Gomeshi?

I think that was John Gomeshi Do I have the show wrong? Was it not Q then? No it was Q So just for a quick little background For people who didn't follow this as closely as we did Or don't remember it as much Billy Bob Thornton was on this show Cue with his band this radio talk show in Canada called Cue with his band promoting their new record and he specifically said he didn't want to be there as an actor but as a musician that's where he wanted the interview to go so I believe the host John Gomeshi introduces him saying they've got this new album out and saying of course that listeners will know him from his acting work as well and so then Billy Bob Thornton is so upset He's so upset that they even mentioned that he's also an actor that he just pouts his way through this entire interview and he won't give any good answers. And it turns out later on he explains how how he feels like he was somewhat belittled by not they didn't respect his musical pedigree by introducing him as an actor. So I found this thing where Bean only took his responses and sent me the whole thing. Let's just do this. today has a weird vibe but let's just take a listen to this yeah i just like baseball when

i was a kid i don't know what you mean by that i don't know what you're talking about i'm not sure what that means i've never met him i don't know maybe would you say that to tom petty well i think it's odd that you have to smoke inside of white stripe outside you wouldn't say that to tom patty would you well mashed potatoes are no gravy you know i'm saying oh that's good yeah it's um a mixture of the british invasion with hillbilly music something that i know more about than say a band who's 20 years old that you wouldn't say that to uh i grew

up as pretty much a music historian so can i just not that we need to really hate this god Would you just love to hang out with him? But, like, I bet you if a band that was 20 had Jared Leto in it, they would mention he's an actor. Yeah, of course. Like, it's so flawed. The premise of what Billy Bob Thornton is saying is so flawed. What he's just saying is, I have been studying hillbilly music and the British Invasion for so long that I know more.

about it than a comparable band to mine that you would not mention that the lead singer is an actor well if the lead singer of that band was a famous actor I bet you they would mention it all it's

saying is is you might know this person from this other thing it's not like hey we're disrespecting your musical pedigree like I said before whatever the word is maybe I'm using pedigree wrong there but um it's just it was so not disrespectful and he is just so clearly just like the thing is I After this, after hearing that interview, and I have a real – I get real tetchy about celebrities kind of talking down to and sabotaging or sabotaging interviews. You say sabotage. I say sabotage. Kind of punching of which, by the way, a guy who does that kind of thing all the time. Exactly. Right. And that always makes me very angry. And I was like, I'm done with Billy Bob Thornton, man, because I enjoyed his work. And then that season of Fargo came out And I was like, I guess you get to beat up Uninterviews

Well, again, he was being a little pill And then it turns out he was being a little pill To someone who is, like I said Much less a part of the conversation now Because of allegations against him From a variety of women So I guess, you know, I mean, I don't know Billy Bob Thornton didn't know that at the time He was just, I think, being kind of petulant But yeah, he was good He was good in that season of Fargo I need to get back into that show Are they still making that?

I think so. I missed at least the last season, if not the last two seasons, which is weird. And again, it's one of those shows. I think this is going to be a ridiculous comment that I think people can associate with. I respect it so much that I don't watch it because, like, I want to give it my attention. I want it to be a thing. I want to sit down and really absorb it. And I do that so infrequently now. So much of the stuff I watch is, you know, maybe puttering around the kitchen. So, like, I've been re-watching, like, the other two, or is it Nora from Queens? I've been watching that, just kind of, like, good shows that you can watch. Is that the Awkwafina show? Yeah, Awkwafina. Is it Nora from Queens? I think it's Nora. I wonder how long she plans on doing that. She hasn't planned on doing that the rest of her life, does she? Anyway. You wouldn't say that to Awkwafina. That's how we got here. Anyway, let's see. On March 10th, we played the NASCAR prayer guy, which was an old school one that I believe you had pulled.

I know exactly what you're talking about with the with like sometimes a show is a it's a victim of how much I respect it. I mean, that's one of the big issues with our podcast. A lot of people just don't listen to it because they respect it so much that they're like, you're right.

I'm on the other side of it.

I need to be I need to be sitting down in a quiet room. I need to be giving this my full concentration.

Actually, we are the antidote to that, or maybe not the antidote. That makes it sound like that's a problem. But actually, there are podcasts where you say, like, okay, I need to put this on and listen to it intently while I go for a walk, and I got nothing else distracting me. We've had people on the show. We've had MSNBC's Chris Hayes on the show saying the thing that is good about TBTL is you don't have to pay that much attention to it. It's just companionship. You can leave the room and come back, and you don't have to worry about whether or not you missed a clue, you know?

But the problem is, if you miss a bunch of shows, you do miss some inside jokes. Like, you don't understand why I'm playing Denzel Washington saying, didn't know you like to get wet, though.

Yeah, you know, I don't think you've ever explained that.

I don't think I know why I'm doing it. But, I mean, I'm actually not joking. I'd be like, on the one hand, there's nothing precious about this program, which is kind of, I guess you could say that's a positive. Like, you know, it's not prestige podcasting. It's not the kind of thing that you have to really, like, it's not in the dark. But because we're doing so many shows and because so many of the silly things that we say are just building on some other silly thing that we said or heard on a previous episode, it is pretty, as we have said, inside of the power of inside. So it creates its own barrier to entry. Yeah, yeah. But just a different one than being too good. That's for sure.

Well, you know, I was encouraged the other day. we were talking with a friend and colleague who we're going to be working with more closely and he's been listening to TBTL for quite some time now and he said that when he first joined APM he was listening to all the podcasts giving him a taste and giving him a taste testing him out, kicking the tires and he said ours at first was too impenetrable he's like I just felt like I didn't know what anybody was talking about I blame you for that Luke because I'm very articulate as you heard at the beginning of the show when I couldn't pronounce good morning I got it now good morning Anyway he said and then I went back And I listened to the what the hell is tbtl Episode and it was a great gateway So that I'm really glad that I know we did that a long time ago

People and of course we had that Contest we were asking the listeners to play That episode for people but you know You try stuff you never know if it's really going to work But I'm glad to hear that at least in the case of our Colleague John it actually worked And it may have worked in the case of my niece Maddie Because she is now fully

Thank you.

a p1 and remember yesterday i was saying started talking about dear evan hansen yeah and then i said i gotta pull back on this because a i know a lot of our listeners are really big musical theater fans and they love that that musical and i said and also i know my nieces love it and so i uh am getting on the airplane flying home from texas yesterday and like right as i'm about to like go into airplane mode on my phone hawk squad starts going on it's just from maddie i love dear

evan hansen so and yes she takes it is ben she texts tbtl reactions to the entire family it's not just that's the whole thing one with you well she texts on not directly to me she texts hawk

squad i love dear evan hansen and yes it is ben platt and he's only like five years older than the rest of the cast for the movie but the makeup isn't very good so he looks way older than a high schooler yeah uncle luke it's good you ended the conversation about dear evan hansen because Marion and I almost lost our minds last year When Andrew criticized Hamilton

Oh I wouldn't do that Can you imagine me doing that

For those of you not listening to TBTL On your bus ride home Maddie is referencing a chat from today's show Just like no context Maddie just coming in hot to the Hawk Squad Sticking up for musical theater of all sorts

And now you have to Explain to the family what's going on with that Can she just get a direct line

I need to send my family a copy of the What the Hell is TBTL episode And maybe they can get into it

Which, by the way, that is still – I just checked it. We still have the URL, whatthehellistbtl.com. So you can just send people directly to whatthehellistbtl.com. And also, I would just like to say I would never, ever, ever make fun of Hamilton. Coming to the Greenwich Civic Center from London's West End, Sir Lloyd Wilson Weber's Rap the Musical. Just give me that big booming face In your face That booming face I'm on the record. I love Hamilton.

All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll be back with more TVTL in just a moment.

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I don't say Louis. But I also don't know if my family got that right or not. I don't know if there are. I think that there are two proper pronunciations for that. The French would be Louis, right? Right, but it is St. Louis. Right. So. Oh, that's right. Yeah, St. Louis. The Americanization of it. Yeah, exactly. And I believe my middle name, Lewis, came from, I want to say, maybe my mom's dad or maybe an uncle or something. It's a family name in some way.

Okay. Well, Lewis or Louis Mellencon, thank you so much. And then Jennifer and Gary Sr. are there in DuPont, Washington, formerly, I believe, Tenverites. Why do people keep moving? I know. It's very, very confusing. I think of the seniors because they were part of the champagne sabering many years ago. Oh, yes. I remember that very well. I was very new then. When Becca and I were staying in that Airbnb in San Antonio, she said, how's your sabering technique? And I was like, what? And we realized the Airbnb did not have a wine opener in it. For it being my dream home.

I would love to live in it did not have a wine opener and so at first and it's kind of out in the country so it was like a bit of a drive I didn't want to drive into town and I was like there's got to be one so I went through every drawer of course there wasn't and there it wasn't even a good maybe for safety they didn't have any like large knives either like a knife that was large enough that you could saber I was very close to doing that but they just actually didn't have

it there can i ask a question here and i might have this totally wrong but i i don't think sabering is a replacement for a corkscrew for wine i think it's a fun way of untapping your champagne bottle which you don't need a corkscrew for right or wrong you're right that is the

traditional reason you would saber something but i believe her joke was we might have to just knock the lid off i got you i just wanted to make sure that i was remembering this correctly because and I'm guessing I could be totally wrong, but I'm guessing that the effervescence of the champagne, the carbonation of it helps with the whole effect a little bit. Like there's a reason why people are sabering champagne and not generally sabering wine.

Well, anyway, I would saber wine because the corkscrew is fully in the I'm sorry. The cork is fully in the bottle, whereas with a champagne bottle, the cork is kind of, you know, bubbles out. You can actually catch the saber on something. It would be impossible to do on a wine bottle.

No, because when you do the sabering of champagne, which I've actually done, you're catching the glass, the rim of the glass. You're not actually catching the cork, believe it or not. You're hitting – even a champagne bottle has a little glass rim. Because think about it. A champagne cork, until it's popping, is still in the neck of the champagne bottle. It's only when it's popped out fully that it's – I think you're thinking that champagne sabering is you're knocking the cork out. Do you know that with champagne sabering, you're actually knocking the top of the glass bottle off? Oh, I didn't. you're you're actually the glass breaks or the glass just the just the tip my friend just yeah

just like the very still think you could do that with aside from the effervescence you think that if you had a wine bottle that that was shaped like a wine bottle with a cork fully in it not kind of bubbling over the way a champagne cork does you think that if the wine was bubbly enough you could do it if it was like a traditional wine bottle i don't know if it would work and

We didn't have a big enough knife for it, so what I tried to do, Andrew, was go out to a tree in the yard and do a thing that I had seen on, like, TikTok or YouTube where you can bang a bottle of wine. The person I saw doing it, they were using a shoe as a piece of padding, essentially, so they took their shoe off. They take the bottle of wine. They hold the base of the bottle of wine, and they're banging it into the shoe, and eventually the effect of the wine sloshing back and forth within the bottle pushes the cork out to the point where it's all the way out, and you can just pull it. so i was like well this is a great chance to try this technique sure went out to the yard started banging this bottle of fit vine diet wine that i like banging this bottle of fit vine on this tree on like a texas live oak tree and it starts working and the cork starts inching its way out and i'm like i can't believe that this is actually happening and then right as i was seeing it kind of start to emerge about now it's like a quarter of the way out i was like this is so great the next slam the entire wine bottle just shattered oh shit what's great about being relatively new in a relationship is becca still finds this stuff kind of endearing and charming about me like give it 10 years you know but like uh because a lot of times i'll have these plans and the people that i might be you know in the relationship with will be like that's not gonna to end well dude and i'm just like i got this we're still in the mode where i can just like look at becky and go i got an idea and run outside with a bottle of wine and then come back in with a shit with literally just the pieces of a broken wine bottle and wine all over my lulu lemon shorts and go well that didn't work and then we just laugh and i throw the stuff in the recycler i didn't know you like to get wet though you wouldn't say that

thanks donors thank you

hello and welcome to top story uh you sent me this article actually andrew it's uh from gawker quick question and we don't have like tons and tons of time today so i don't want to belabor things but i don't think i fully realized gawker was a thing again i mean i think i saw a rumor that it was happening but i haven't gotten haven't worked it back into my regular stuff is it just

like is Gawker back baby you know it's kind of a question that I have as well that I actually looked up and didn't get a very clear answer on but basically the reason I realized Gawker was back was because I started following Gawker on Twitter a long time ago when it was the old Gawker and a going concern that we all loved and then when they went away I didn't notice that I wasn't getting tweets from Gawker of course and then I don't know maybe a month month ago I just got a tweet in my timeline from Gawker that said we're back baby and I read a short description I mean they're not owned I don't I believe they have a different ownership I believe that they have completely different editorial positions you know all I think all the writers and all of the editors are totally new I don't think there's any legacy there but I think it is run by people who respected the original brand and are trying to do their own thing with gawker and i will say i was very dubious um but the few things i've read in it so far i've really enjoyed and so i'm i'm happy for them i will say this this is a this isn't what you asked and like you said we don't have much time i am starting to think that i am wrong about fonts in the year of 2021 because when i saw gawker's like yeah it's i'm there right now And everything. I was like, oh, boundless W. I was like, this is janky as hell. And then there is another somewhat new rebirth of a podcast that I won't mention that I went to their website and the fonts were terrible just as far as the layout. And I was like, oh, my gosh, these people need to get it together. But now I'm starting to realize there might be almost maybe birthed out of a certain irony. could we be living in an ironic time for fonts luke online i'm right because i'm i'm at gawker.com

and i know what you mean it looks like there's a formatting error there's like four different kinds of fonts that are all like kind of extreme and like it doesn't even say like the gawker the i don't know if you'd call it the masthead but the first thing you would see is like only about 50 of it's even on the website it's like it's like it's expanding out of the website in every direction so you can really only see the edge of the g the a the w the k you could the r is almost not even visible that's the kind of thing that in the olden days would happen because you had some html type of error uh this is probably intentional and then like you said there's all kinds of different colors and fonts seem to go from sort of like i'm terrible at describing how things look but some of them seem kind of whimsical and then some of them are just like very much more like straightforward like an aerial or something yeah um it's it's it seems all over the place from a design standpoint but also it's probably what is now in style and design and you and i just don't

know that exactly i know this is how i learned but anyway yeah this is a pretty fascinating article

right yeah so you were on gawker.com and you saw this thing that this guy bennett madison wrote help i couldn't stop writing fake dear prudence letters that got published and what he basically he writes about is that back in 2018, he should have been working on his fifth young adult novel, but he sort of had hit a wall. And so he said, I took up a different form of fiction. I started writing fake letters to Dear Prudence, Slate's long-running advice column. Part of the reason for this change was that I was getting too old for young adults. As the sun set on my twink hood, the teenage characters in my unfinished drafts had become suspiciously middle-aged in their preoccupations they were jaded about sex fretful about the effectiveness of their skincare routines and clumsy in their use of emojis they also didn't get the fonts on gawker.com i added that part that is actually kind of an interesting thing to think about though like if you're writing ya stuff yeah and you get to be not so why you're just more ma mature adult or middle adult then it's like i mean there's just nothing worse right they're not maddie stop listening not to slam dear ever and handsome but there's just nothing worse than somebody who's ideally when you and i try to play in that space and you do it less than i do you do it actually not at all i try to be self-aware about it and point out the fact that i am not of that generation but yeah i mean if you're writing books that are aimed at young adults and you don't really kind of no, just your life, your lived experience is no longer that of a young adult. That can be kind

of hard. Let me ask you a question. This is getting pretty off topic and it's a big question that I would usually reject out of hand because I think that these things are always cyclical and maybe not cyclical, but that adolescence, no matter what the era is, there's always a disconnect between the adults and the adolescents and the adolescents always have their own language and And there always seems to be a vast gulf. But I am wondering, do you think it would have been easier to be a YA writer, let's say, in the 1980s and 90s than in the 2010s because technology moves so fast and influences our culture, especially young people, so quickly that you can't fake it as easily as an adult now? Do you think that's true or do you think this is just the same bullshit that an adult like me, a font disliker like me would have said back in 1993 as well? Like, society is moving so fast these days.

I think it would be easier I'm not listen Judy Blume is a national treasure uh so I'm not trying to say anything that would degrade her legacy but I think it was probably easier to be Judy Blume if we're going to consider that to be YA I guess yeah like then I think it is then it would be to be whoever the Judy Blume of today is just because of the things you talked about I think things are things are evolving much more rapidly and just yeah from the technology standpoint that alone Like, if you have somebody using—and maybe technology is not the right word. Maybe it's more software—software is also not the right word—app. Like, in Judy Blume's day, you didn't have to worry that maybe you wrote about two people talking over a telephone, but now there's a different telephone that the young people are actually using. Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah. You know? It's like you could literally just describe an app that seems out of date, and you would have just ruined that chapter because there's no way those two people are going to be using, you know, kick to talk to each other.

Right, right, right. By the time the book publishes, nobody knows what WhatsApp is anymore.

Right, exactly. So I would imagine that's really challenging. And this is the part that I don't know if this is true or not, but my guess is that there's also so much more slang, so much more memification of things, so many more kind of ways that people, you know, younger people are talking and relating to each other that are more, like, again, just more ephemeral, more just come through for – come through is one. There you go. like there's just so many little things like that that you could that one could get wrong that it seems like it could be pretty challenging so maybe that was part of what bennett madison was running up against but anyway what he decided to start doing was write these made-up letters to dear prudence to i think mostly this is because um uh he really appreciated danny lavery's writing danny uh was i think he just stopped doing it actually but he was the uh slate dear prudence Writer for a long time in fact We just had him on live wire He wrote a great book called something that will Shock and discredit you oh That is worth checking out I was gonna ask you

Were calling him Danny and I noticed the piece said Daniel I wasn't sure if you were goes back And forth I think gotcha

I'm pretty pretty down with Danny

Oh yeah no you call him you're in a first name Yeah yeah yeah but yeah Daniel Bob De Niro

Exactly anyway I also thought this was kind of interesting uh this piece has a lot of like actually kind of decent research on the background or on like the history of these advice columns um the world of agony ants was not new to me in my childhood i would take the washington post and the local montgomery journal with my after school snack and while i try to cultivate an interest in the news of the day the advice columnies were really columns really what spoke to me i think he was calling them the agony ants because it's like ann landers uh and then her actual sister uh dear abby was ann landers as they were sisters in real life and they had these sort of dueling um uh advice columns you know that people would write into anyway he goes on to talk about uh over the next couple of years i used burner email accounts to submit around 25 letters to dear prudence at least 12 of which were answered on either the printed column or the podcast um do you think it's does it i mean is it in any way inappropriate to send in made-up scenarios to, like, a Slate Advice column? Like, is that lying? I mean, it is lying. You're not telling the truth, but does it even really matter in the world? That's interesting.

Do you remember having your pal Amy on the show of the Ask Amy column? Yes. Way back when she was Amy Dickinson. I know that you mostly got to know her.

Didn't somebody troll her with, like, lyrics to a song or something?

Yes, I believe somebody sent... I think it happens a lot, but I think the one she was talking about It was somebody maybe sent in, you know, a scenario from their life, but it was actually – was it from the song My Name Is Luca? Or is it Lucas? Is it Lucas or Luca? It's Luca. It's Luca. It's the song. It's the Suzanne Vega song. Maybe it was an Amy Mann song. Anyway, it doesn't really matter. But, yes, I think that's kind of a common thing to take, like, a song but then, like, deconstruct the lyrics and write it as a scenario and send it in. And so she was, like – she had a good sense of humor about it and also knows that that's something that people do. And so I think the people who write and edit these columns are very aware of that and are always looking for fakes. And it makes you really wonder, especially after reading this particular piece, how many of them are fakes? Because I don't think the people editing and writing these want to let the fakes come through. But, like, I'll bet you a lot of them are.

I'll also bet you that a lot of the good ones are fakes. Yeah. So they get in. Because let's be honest. There's about ten real-life problems. I mean, that's not true. But there's probably about 10 recurring like etiquette or family problems that come into a lot of these folks. You know what I mean? It's like, I don't. My mother in law is a is a real handful or whatever. Like, I feel like the thing is that this is probably if you have ever worked on like a radio show or some other project where you're you're you're you're requesting submissions from the general public. public you just get a lot of duds some of them are great some of them are useful that whatever tell us your story of this but a lot of them are duds and then also a lot of them are repetitive and like you think about like dear prudence has been you know i think that's been from like day one i wonder if like was june thomas the first dear prudence i forget who the first dear prudy was oh maybe it was emily yaffe i don't know it was a long time yeah because i used to work you know when i worked on that show day to day it was a combination of npr and slate in the very early days of slate so we were like very plugged into what was going on at slate and i forget who the original dear prudence was but i mean that thing's been around for like 20 years it's like you i mean we're all experiencing life every day so i guess there are new problems cropping up but it just seems like probably the ones that are written uh by somebody who's just being sort of a and is just trying to make the most interesting, crazy thing or wild thing that didn't really happen. Those are going to be the best ones, as long as you can actually write them expertly, which is one of the things that this writer of this article is talking about, basically breaking down what he did wrong in certain ones that didn't get published. He says, My biggest weakness was dialogue, as I was always tempted to include fabricated direct quote diatribes in my letters, even knowing they would raise red flags in help. I refuse to return my lesbian identifying ex lovers moose hide vest. I couldn't bring myself to kill the line, the line where a crusty lesbian elder traumatizes a room full of young tender queers by demanding they all belly up to the beaver buffet. This one sadly never saw the light of day. I can very much identify with this part of this article, which is he would come up with a line that he thought was so funny that was like a direct quote that he would then he couldn't help himself but to include it in his fake letter. And then whoever screens these would be like, well, no one says that out loud like that didn't.

Right. Right. And people don't write. And usually when you're writing a letter into a publication, you're not like breaking out dialogue like that, like you're writing a short story. But it's so tempting By the way The first The first Person who wrote For Dear Prudence Was Herbert Stein And then Margot Howard And then Emily Yoffie Took over in 2006 For what that's worth

When my letters did run They were often edited In ways I didn't care for Spelling or usage errors And malaprops Were key to the voice Of my characters But they usually got corrected Before publication Help My husband and I Can't agree on what to name the baby we might get was a pleasant exception it was important to the story that this fictional couple was getting rather than having or adopting a baby and my word choice was thankfully allowed to prevail that's another thing that's interesting uh to me i guess i hadn't thought of that like somebody going in and sort of copy editing if you will or fixing up the grammar uh you know of of some of these uh of some of these letters because you do feel like if a person you know you could always use s-i-c right that just that just means said in context or something i was gonna ask you what that means i don't think i've heard that well you know how when you when somebody when

somebody says something oh s-i-c sick yeah i didn't know that that means said in context i

didn't realize that that's what that means i don't know i was asking actually i don't know i that's what i thought i heard that at some point but yeah sick s-i-c i think it stands for something or maybe it's latin maybe it's a holdover from some like latin copy editing thing but you know You can always put sick, S-I-C, parenthetically next to something to indicate that this is not a typo. This is what the person said or did. And it seems like if a real person is really writing in and saying, dear Prudence, I have these problems with this and that, and their way of speaking is like not technically conforming to all grammar or whatever, that's still them. That's their personality. You'd think you'd want to kind of leave it in, but I guess they don't.

And in this particular case, get is such a – it really is important. Yes. Like that is that is that's the joke. I'll tell you what.

Dear Prudence must be a very popular thing at Slate because what I noticed, I don't actually subscribe to Slate. It's one of the things that's behind a paywall the most. Yeah. Like I think you might get a couple freebies like they'll tempt you. But then if you really want to actually like, you know, get weird with it, if you want to get real, if you want to deep dive, you're paying money pretty quick, which tells me that it's something people are willing to pay money for.

It's one of the big reasons we pay for Slate, actually. Genevieve loves Dear Prudence and loves advice columns I love Slate's Political Gab Fest Which you can get for free But they have a little bonus segment At the end of the episode for paid subscribers So yeah, but Genevieve's love of this exact column Is one of the reasons we pay for it Is she scandalized by this? I sent it to her, she loved it I mean, there are some lines in here that she just loves so much Oh, this guy is a great writer, by the way Just an amazing writer Now, I know that we don't have tons of time here There's...

So I kind of want to get to the big payoff, though, which I'll let you take it from here. But I didn't see this coming. And also, it's interesting. To me, this is where things sort of started to raise the intentions of this writer. What is his name? Bennett Madison. Bennett Madison. Yeah.

Which is what's the big payoff?

Well, the big payoff is, and I didn't realize this. I thought it was just kind of like, these are my adventures of writing fake letters into this column. But then you get to the end and you realize, oh, one of these columns was published and made big news. It was a fake scenario, made up scenario by this person. But then it ends up being picked up by Tucker Carlson so he can own the libs. It was when this writer, Bennett, sent in this fake letter called, help, my husband won't remove his mask even for sex. That led to that got published and then led to a segment on Tucker Carlson's show. terrified liberals keep their masks on during sex. And so then our hero here, the person who wrote this piece said, this is one of the reasons why I decided to stop doing it. I don't want to help perpetuate falsehoods about mask wearing, about liberals and the way, you know, we are taking the pandemic seriously. But a bunch of other people are saying, well, this is also your way of kind of taking credit for something that went viral and you couldn't, you just couldn't stay anonymous anymore could you buddy and i just think that's sort of an interesting question

so so one one side of it is that you're so thirsty or not so thirsty but you're just like you kind of like you had a moment it's almost like maybe like me talking about me and carrie doing that like industrial video that ended up getting completely misconstrued and on fox business news oh right like i would do well to just keep that under my hat because it was not a shining moment of creativity but it's also just weird and kind of notable to be caught up in some sort of viral moment like that and so this this the the some people are saying that this guy just probably wouldn't have wouldn't have outed himself as far as writing these columns if one of them hadn't actually actually become kind of a bigger larger viral thing i mean yeah i mean i

think like well basically i i read this and i thought it was interesting i had mixed emotions about the whole thing you i never answered your question before about about whether or not um i think it's wrong or what the moral obligation is to to not prank i don't think it's some some huge sin i personally don't like pranks and i don't you know i prefer truth and so i wouldn't do something like this right and send in these fake letters and try to try to prank the the editors but um you know whatever i'm not losing tons of sleep over it i enjoyed this little write-up but then at the end when it's like oh and by the way one of these things I wrote kind of blew up it was huge I was like huh how do people feel about this and so I went to the writer's um uh Twitter feed again at Madison I just wanted to see what people were were how people were responding and a lot of people were just like oh this is you just taking a victory lap this is you not being able to like have your little secret game because you just had to get your attention for this which I don't know if i agree with those people but it was one of those things where i had read this and i think i told you i didn't send it to you i'm like i don't know if this is a good topic or not and then i kept thinking about it and i kept thinking of those questions for like 24 hours like yeah what are the intentions here and what are the moral i don't know if obligations are the right

term but uh it's interesting i feel like the as far as the question of if it's bad form to write a fake letter i don't think it matters because i don't think it's bad form or immoral in some way Because really what you're taking – the person who's maybe getting the – I mean if a person – if a real person has a real problem and they write a real letter to someone like Danny Lavery and he gives them good advice that they actually can use in their life, that's cool. But really what it is is just a way for the rest of us to read about something that's entertaining and then also to ask ourselves how would I answer this question or how would I behave in this scenario and then maybe to learn some larger instructional kind of thing from whatever the advice that the advice giver gives is that we could apply to our own life about how we interact with people. You know what I mean? So if the jumping off point is a made-up letter but still all those other things happen to me, it seems fine. I also just think that this writer, Bennett Madison, is – if you're a writer, unless you're like Tom Clancy – I saw – there was a 65-year-old guy reading Tom Clancy on the plane next to me yesterday, like a physical Tom Clancy book. And I just thought, I love that that's still happening. I love how on brand this is for you. Double Jack and Coke and a Tom Clancy on a flight from Houston to Seattle. You love to see it. But anyway, if you are a writer and you're not Tom Clancy or Stephen King, you do have to do probably a certain amount of self-promotion. And my guess is at some point this writer was always going to out themselves on this even without the viral moment because it's a way – it's something to write about. It's like you did a thing. I find myself in a much less – like a lower visibility.

version of this a lot which is like something's happening and at the time i'm thinking oh this will be a great story for tbtl or this you know what i mean so i get the sense that probably as this writer was writing these he was kind of cracking himself up it was kind of a fun project and he kind of knew i'm going to get some kind of content out of this uh-huh don't you think i know

i i yeah maybe maybe i i wonder if when he started i'll bet you maybe it was a little bit more innocent maybe just was was really doing it just for a lark and maybe to make his friends laugh you know i'm sure there were always some people on the inside and then maybe at some point he did say hey you know at some point i could i could write about this i could see that happening i want to know how your pal danny feels about this i was going to to daniel's um daniel lavery right lavery did you say um i don't know i sometimes say it wrong yeah i was on um his uh twitter feed today but i didn't see any kind of reaction which probably makes sense and and he's not writing the column anymore either i think so that's right i think actually this guy mentions in his piece

that danny got some huge book contract uh and so has now stepped away from the column so yeah who knows but yeah i mean i i just i think my guess is this doesn't feel like that criticism about like you're just doing this because it got in fact if anything i think you'd want to not admit to that because that's kind of not something to be very excited about the fact that you gave Tucker Carlson completely made up out of whole cloth fodder for his culture war, you know?

But it's good to—and actually, I've definitely come around on this. I was just kind of tossing this around in my head like tossed salad and scrambled eggs. But, no, if Tucker Carlson is churning the lie machine and the propaganda machine over there on Fox News and taking these complete red herrings—I mean, Fox News often just makes stuff up themselves anyway. And now here they have this new narrative of just, you know, again, owning the libs of just like, you know, wearing masks during sex. It's like, yeah, we should expose the fact that Tucker Carlson is, you know, is just basing these segments on nothing and lies, too. Of course. So that's better to say, by the way, this was all made up. I made this up, you idiots. I know, except unfortunately there's no.

You never reached that audience. There's no holding there's no holding anyone to account over that, which is the really frustrating part, because, I mean, it just it just you know, there's no again, there's no accountability there. The fact that the fact that like there will never be a point where Tucker Carlson has to go on the air and say, hey, you know, four months ago or whatever, eight months ago when I ran with the headline liberals afraid to take mask off during sex. Yeah, that was actually somebody made that up because their why a career was stalling. Like he's just never going to say that. And there's no reason he has to say it, which makes me mad. And I know we've already ranted enough for a couple of weeks, so I'll just leave that one there, I guess.

I'm paranoid, Luke.

I feel like we only have three Blur's days today, and I keep checking my mail just to make sure that I'm not missing any, but it seems to be.

That's actually perfect because I have to bounce pretty quickly here and go do some Livewire recordings, and I think somewhere many years ago some people sensed that, and they just decided let's take the night off from the love making that's true that's how it works there was a mass movement in this country and amongst the people who would later birth our listeners to say you know what not this week Luke's going to have a busy Thursday that is really thank you everybody out there for your chastity

never thought I'd hear those words Catherine says I'd like to wish a very happy blurs day to my twin sister Juliet well it sounds like we have two birthdays here if we're talking twins that's me saying that by the way Catherine says and of course this is Catherine and Juliet I believe we met Catherine at the picnic last year or two years ago or sometime before time stopped she just moved to Berlin Germany sorry Berlin Germany they call it Berlin in New Hampshire and somehow that poisoned my brain let me start this over Catherine says I'd like to wish a very happy Blurs Day to my twin sister Juliet she just moved to Berlin Germany to pursue a master's degree in gender studies at the why didn't I have you do this one Frey Universitat Universitat Frey Universitat Berlin affectionately known in my family as F you Berlin now there you go

If there are any Berlin 10s who have housing connections, please reach out on Facebook. Happy birthday, Juliet. I love you. Wow. Happy Blur's Day. That's awesome. Amy in Memphis, Tennessee, says, just a little Blur's Day message for my spawn. Blur's Day, shout out to my five who is turning 10 this Saturday. Ella Rue is honestly the coolest kid I know. Thanks for randomly cosplaying as mythical creatures and superheroes for a straight decade. Love ya. Mom, see, I feel like I've seen this baby in real life. This is not a baby anymore. This is a 10-year-old, small human, medium-aged human. I can't remember which specific event it was, or if I just saw some pictures of Eloroo on Amy's phone, and it just was so impactful that I thought I met Eloroo in person. But I have this memory of Eloroo being at an event, and the idea that that person is now turning 10 is... Mind-blowing. It is pretty mind-blowing. Unicorn mind explosion.

Happy Blur's Day, Ella Rue. Keep on rolling, Amy. Amy's a big roller skater. Uncle Alan in Sacramento says, I'd like to wish a happy Blur's Day to the twins, Connor and Robert. As of this writing, they are almost five days old. But if they start listening to TBTL episode one right now, they will probably be in preschool by the time they hear this message. Also, congratulations to my little sis Cassie and her husband Joshua on having their first and second babies. Congratulations.

Oh, my gosh, that's so cute. And, yeah, don't drag your feet on getting them listening to the show because there's a lot of shows they've got to catch up on. Absolutely. 3,517 as of today.

If you don't mind me saying don't have them listen at the same time, please. We need all the downloads possible. Please have Connor listen. We double the downloads if we get those twins listening. Exactly, and Robert listening. We need them on their own devices here.

absolutely well happy blurs day everybody yeah um i was thinking we could go out with a john prine song today today is the i don't know what the exact anniversary is i just heard ann powers talking about it on npr this morning uh it's the somethingth anniversary of his first ever album that was released um it has angel of montgomery on it and a few others i will admit it is not the john prine record that i am the most familiar with so i guess we don't actually have to play something off of that record but just the story goes you know he was uh living in illinois he was a mailman he'd just gotten out of the army and he um uh was just gigging around chicago and he was playing in this club there was like nobody there and uh chris christopherson walks in and uh i think john prine had finished his set but he like played an extra set because chris christopherson was there and and chris christopherson just went out and told all his friends who were people like Bob Dylan and uh and Bonnie Raitt and the like that like this guy this mailman from Chicago has really got something going on and uh that was the beginning of uh of John Prine's musical career or at least his uh you know making it big as it were it was 50 years ago it was 1971

and I guess that's also you know that's the year that NPR came into being as well so they're sort of celebrating other big 50th anniversaries this year um I'm trying to think of the song

That I wanted to It's off of Bruised Orange Or Bruised Orange Hey did you Get that orange I left for you I borrowed it from Bruce It's Bruised Orange

Bruce's Orange

Yeah it's Bruce's Orange Nothing rhymes with Bruce's Orange Everything rhymes with Bruce's Orange Mouse Rat I was gonna say Let me see if I could Find this track Could you Go with Let's see here Uh oh

Theo just woke up He's about to start yelling He's looking at the door He doesn't understand why the door is closed I usually leave it open He's about to start yelling

You know what, I'm singing these songs in my head There's a great line in one of these songs Off of Bruce's Orange Bruce's Oranges Off of Bruce's Oranges That's like He's talking about his time in the military How he got kicked out of the army I don't think he got disheartedly discharged But how the army didn't really like him He talks about I used to bust my knuckles on a monkey and wrench. Is that the way that the world goes around? Long Monday, it looks like that might have been.

Is that possible?

No, but I do love Long Monday. Let's just do that. Long Monday is a great song, too, with some just amazing lyrics in it. So anyway, we'll do that. I'll figure out this other John Prine song, and I'll play it at some point down the road because, you know, I never want to miss a chance. So let's go out with Long Monday by John Prine, and happy 50th anniversary to that first album he put out. All right. We're going to be back here tomorrow. with a Friday edition of the show, so please join us for that. Until then, have a great Thursday. Stay safe, take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all. You and me Sitting in the back of my memory Like a honeybee Buzzing around a glass of sweet Chablis Radio's on Windows rolled up And my mind's rolled down Headlights shining like silver moons Rolling on the ground We made love And every way love can be made And we made time Looked like time could never fade Friday night We both made a guitar hum Saturday made Sunday feel like it would never come Gonna be a long Monday Sitting all alone on a mountain by a river that has no end Gonna be a long Monday Stuck like a tick of a clock That's come unwound Again Would you say that to Tom Petty? You wouldn't say that to Tom Petty, would you? Power out.