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#3527 And You Don't Believe In A Content God?
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3527 And You Don't Believe In A Content God?

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

October 7, 2021 | 01:07:25 | Leisure, Comedy

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Andrew has jumped head-first into the surveillance game, and it's paying off. Sort of. Plus, Luke's awkward exchange in an elevator forces him to adopt a British accent from this day forward.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:19 | Speaker 4:

I love what you've done with the place. It's a really nicely done place. Say, is that your dog? It's a dog. You and I have never really had much of a rapport, have we? TBTL!

00:00:23 - 00:00:43 | Speaker 1:

We'll just sit in the front room. We'll sit there. He'll walk, he'll go to the front door, kind of knock on the door, and then sit down, then I'll sit, then he stands and he's out in the front. Then he'll come in, we just sit there. And he'll stand and I'll sit, and then I stand and you sit, and then we're both looking at each other and we're just nodding. Like a couple of nodders, right?

00:00:43 - 00:00:48 | Speaker 4:

Well, there's that fine line between, you know, showing emotion and being a hot dog.

00:00:48 - 00:00:54 | Speaker 3:

You have a very gentle face and a very erotic physique.

00:00:54 - 00:00:55 | Speaker 4:

You call them back today

00:00:55 - 00:01:04 | Speaker 2:

and you tell Mr. CBS that I will do it if I have total creative control. No, you can't have any creative control.

00:01:04 - 00:01:09 | Speaker 3:

Okay. All right, let's just do it then. F*** it, let's do it. I'm bored.

00:01:11 - 00:03:29 | Speaker 2:

All right, hello. Good morning and welcome everyone to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. This is the beginning of a social engineering attack. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I don't know who that is and I don't care to find out. Coming to you from the Nest Broadcast Center high in the sky above Portland, Oregon on a somewhat gloomy Thursday morning. I'm feeling slightly gloomy or slightly, I don't know what the word is, slightly annoyed, I guess, that the time has finally come this weekend. I just heard this on the radio like 10 minutes ago. As I sit here in the Ness Broadcast Center surveying the east side of Portland, there is this construction project. In fact, when I first moved into this place, it was one of the very first things I noted. It might have been one of the first things I talked about once I was down here, which is that they have this pedestrian cycle bridge called the Earl Blumenauer Bridge. I've been waiting for this moment for months, and it's finally here. that they've constructed in pieces and they're going to shut down the freeway and they're going to, for the weekend, and they're going to take this huge section of bridge and crane it up and then just drop it down over the freeway. Whapow, you just drop it in, you get so pitted. And it's this weekend and I'm going to be out of town. So, I don't know, any of you Portland folks down here, make a cell phone video of it, please, and send it to me so I can at least live vicariously through you. We're all going to experience this together, episode 3,527 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. I went to a rock show last night. I'm ready to f***ing smoke the world with the rock and roll. Good deal. It was super fun. I saw Wilco. And I also have never been more aware of my middle-age-ness for a few reasons that I'll get into coming up. Also, I am moving from this apartment building to a different apartment building in a few weeks. And I'm actually kind of relieved because I had an incident in the elevator yesterday.

00:03:29 - 00:03:30 | Speaker 3:

This is embarrassing!

00:03:33 - 00:04:29 | Speaker 2:

Where I think moving is the only option to sort of preserve my dignity. So we'll talk about that. Oh, speaking of embarrassing things, a senator, Richard Blumenthal, was sort of interrogating, if you will, a Facebook executive, and he made a very strong demand to this Facebook executive, which is that they commit to taking down their app, Finsta. You face. Who are you facing? Which, of course, is not an app. It's just a thing, but we'll play you the tape. It made me feel less embarrassed about all the times when we've had things just so, so wrong on this program. The thing that's always so right about the show is Thursdays, a.k.a. the Blur's Days, when we celebrate the listeners having birthdays. So we'll do that as well. Plus, we'll talk to this guy, longest-running Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships.

00:04:29 - 00:04:30 | Speaker 3:

I've got something to say.

00:04:30 - 00:04:36 | Speaker 2:

His name is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend.

00:04:36 - 00:04:46 | Speaker 3:

Good morning, Luke. It's happened again, the content gods. I don't know if we needed them today, but they delivered as of literally one minute ago, and I have that documented.

00:04:46 - 00:04:47 | Speaker 2:

And you don't believe in a content god.

00:04:49 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 3:

That's the show title already. That's again the content gods helping us out. Something just happened literally a minute ago. I know that there's a lot on the agenda today, but do you mind me backing up to tell you a little bit of...

00:05:00 - 00:08:00 | Speaker 4:

background a little bg on me can i have five minutes on the clock here absolutely all right thank you i mentioned to you i think last week that my dad upgraded his um little kind of security camera home system back in ohio and said you want my old cameras just to mess around with and i said sure send them out here to seattle i've been tempted to play in that space don't know if i really want to get don't know if i really want to become surveillance man but let's see what happen send them out here so i've been playing around with the system and then last night we finally installed one of the cameras outside now if you'll recall i said the one sort of tempting use for these other than trying to set up a camera in a way that i can monitor my garbage bins on the street is for something that genevieve is calling operation corrugation there's somebody who's been um since we've lived here mostly like kind of i don't know once every couple of weeks We'll just take a huge collection of old, sort of, of old cardboard boxes that are cut up and clearly from a business and just dump them right outside our property in these bushes that are kind of next to our property. I mean, trash is trash. You know, they're just kind of, it's not really our business, but it's ugly and it's irritating. And sometimes Genevieve goes down there and cleans it up herself. and that's not the most probably safe thing in the world either because God knows what is underneath those boxes. Anyway, last night we finally installed outside one of these cameras for Operation Corrugation, and as you might guess, I was glued to the screen all night waiting for some sort of action and just amazed at the fact that it doesn't, you know, this thing will automatically kick on and start recording even if you're not monitoring it, when it detects some sort of motion, yet it also knows what kind of motion to ignore. From just a technology standpoint, I'm just obsessed with it, like leaves blowing on a tree, it doesn't kick it off. A car is passing in the corner of the frame. Pedestrian traffic doesn't kick it off. But if you go right underneath it, it automatically starts recording. It's, as I say, pretty slick. Yeah. Yeah. So all night, been waiting. First thing out of Genevieve's mouth today, Any motion on the camera, anything going on with Operation Corrugation? I check, and I'm like, nope, nothing. Genevieve leaves for work. Doesn't look like there's any more boxes down there. I have got no notifications at all until 60 seconds before you said my name on the show. I look down, and I see I have a notification. Now, what I got here, Luke, is I've got the monitor up here on my iPad because I wanted to watch it during the show today. But this notification is somebody going back there. This is one of our unhoused neighbors who I recognized been living on the street for quite some time. I now have in my possession a perfectly framed video of him urinating where the people throw the boxes. I mean, it is like perfectly framed.

00:08:00 - 00:08:08 | Speaker 4:

It occurred to me that there are some things I'm not going to want to see with this camera, Luke. Can I train it to not record that?

00:08:09 - 00:08:15 | Speaker 3:

I would see if you can. And, yeah, somehow get the camera to not pick up people urinating or defecating.

00:08:15 - 00:08:19 | Speaker 1:

I'd be on the bathroom pee-peeing, and he'd be standing right there pee-peeing.

00:08:20 - 00:08:44 | Speaker 3:

Do you think the boxes are the – is the corrugation being thrown down by people who are homeless and are using it as a place to stay? Or is it by somebody who just doesn't want to actually put the cardboard where it goes? Like somebody who's just getting rid of cardboard, like illegally dumping it. Well, now you're asking the right questions.

00:08:45 - 00:09:05 | Speaker 4:

Because these are exactly the questions that we've been asking ourselves for the past year or so. I see. This will be solved by Operation Corrugation. That's the point. Because I don't even know what the end game here is. I assume it's us arming ourselves in some way. Sure. To the teeth. Yes. When we're done protecting the new digital bus route signs in the neighborhood, we'll now patrol this.

00:09:05 - 00:09:17 | Speaker 3:

I see you and Genevieve, like those wingnut lawyers, and I think it was St. Louis, standing out in front of the house with their guns. Oh, God, yes, right, right. But you're just standing in front of an area where previously cardboard had been being thrown.

00:09:17 - 00:09:40 | Speaker 4:

I'm picturing it more like I'm dressed like a Minuteman, and I have a musket, and I'm actually marching back and forth on the sidewalk. No, that is kind of the question that I already feel, by the way. I already kind of hate this story, and I hate what a—I mean, it became like—it became a real downward. market version of sliver like immediately or a stakeout the or a stakeout maybe that's maybe

00:09:40 - 00:09:44 | Speaker 2:

god i'm so glad i'm with you on this because tailing is definitely not one of my strong

00:09:44 - 00:09:59 | Speaker 3:

suits i know this so if it were me oh my gosh are you kidding me thanks a lot whoever made a different movie called stakeout so there's a stake there's a movie called stakeout with emilio estevez which i just tried to grab off of youtube the trailer because i thought that That would be funny.

00:10:00 - 00:10:06 | Speaker 2:

and Andrew's basically, here we go. What are we watching anyway? Her name is Maria Maguire. Long brown hair, brown eyes.

00:10:09 - 00:10:17 | Speaker 1:

313 pounds. 313 pounds? Let me see that. I would imagine that's fully clothed. Oh my. Wow. A lot of this doesn't hold up.

00:10:18 - 00:10:58 | Speaker 2:

I remember being a kid and just thinking the movie Stakeout was so cool. Richard Dreyfuss and Emilia Estevez are just in this, you know, like dingy apartment across the street from someone they're surveilling and they're just drinking, you know, black coffee and smoking cigarettes or whatever. But when I went to play that, what it played was some other movie called Stakeout that's also about a private investigator on a stakeout, but it's from like 2020. Should you be allowed to make another film with the exact same name and a plot that seems to be at least somewhat similar? Like, I feel like that should be illegal because it makes me play the wrong tape on TBTL and that is a crime against humanity.

00:10:58 - 00:11:03 | Speaker 1:

They call it the Burbank Act, I believe. Yes. It's being pushed through Congress as we speak.

00:11:03 - 00:11:08 | Speaker 2:

I've actually been able to have it attached to part of the reconciliation on the infrastructure act.

00:11:09 - 00:11:09 | Speaker 1:

Oh, fantastic.

00:11:10 - 00:11:17 | Speaker 2:

Joe Manchin says he won't sign it unless they take off the Burbank Act involving not being able to name movies the same as other movies that have similar plots.

00:11:18 - 00:11:35 | Speaker 1:

It's unclear where cinema stands on that. Yeah. So anyway, that's the end of my story. I got to say, though, I am – even telling you why we set this up and then telling you, like, how obsessed I became with it already makes me feel like the nosy bumpkins that I shouldn't be. But it is kind of interesting.

00:11:35 - 00:12:26 | Speaker 2:

I mean, you clearly have an extremely deep-seated concern about being some kind of next-door-obsessed person who's reporting, quote-unquote, suspicious activity. I don't think there's any danger of you becoming that person. But I do think – and I also think that whatever you and Genevieve did, if you figured out who was dumping the cardboard, I'm not – my guess would be if you saw that it was people who were unhoused and they were somehow related to them not having a place to live, you would probably just go, well, that just comes with living in a city in 2021. If it were somebody from the stereo district, from the fancy stereo store, you'd probably send a strongly worded email or something. I guess my point is I think your response will be appropriate, which means I don't think figuring out what's going on with it is inappropriate, if that makes any sense.

00:12:26 - 00:13:20 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, I hope so. And that is kind of what we want to see. And, again, I don't really know if a strongly worded email or anything will even come of this. But what we're seeing is these big loads of boxes. At first it seemed like, oh, yeah, this is – and during the summer months there are people that stay down there. I don't know if it's the same person or not, but it's a little – kind of a little cutout place with some shrubbery around there. So I understand why if you didn't have a place to sleep, you might be drawn to it. So that is the assumption for a while there. There was like a whole bunch of garbage and stuff. And clearly people were sleeping on cardboard there. That's a different situation. And we didn't run to next door on it. But sometimes in the middle of the day, like I'll go to lunch and then I'll come back from lunch and there will be a huge pile of these boxes. And they're all from a restaurant. They're all like they're all Asian food restaurant boxes. And there are several restaurants like within a two-block radius of here that would be –

00:13:20 - 00:13:21 | Speaker 2:

So obviously it's probably from an auto parts store.

00:13:21 - 00:13:22 | Speaker 1:

Right, exactly. So it's definitely from a stereotype.

00:13:22 - 00:13:28 | Speaker 2:

There's almost no way to begin to create theories on where this might be from.

00:13:28 - 00:14:41 | Speaker 1:

So that's why I'm like, okay, that still doesn't mean that somebody from a restaurant is necessarily dumping them there. It could be that the restaurant is putting their cardboard – and all of this stuff is also cut up and flat, by the way. It's just a whole bunch of it. So there is a chance that somebody at one of the local businesses is cutting up their cardboard, putting it in their dumpster, and then somebody needs that cardboard or somebody is just like not having a rational day and walking down the street and collecting a bunch of stuff in a cart or whatever and then dumping it in places around the neighborhood. That could be a case like, you know, these are the things that happen in the Roosevelt District. Or it could literally be somebody saying, hey, I'm going to put this here for later so I can sleep on it. the latest dump though it's not laid down on the ground like like it's serving any purpose it's just like i came back i literally from lunch uh two days ago and there was just like i don't know 10 boxes i was oh i wish i was tub thumping and there were just like 10 boxes again it you know in the bushes leaning up against the the wall in a way that doesn't really make a lot of sense so i would just like to see like if somebody if somebody literally is just illegal dumping because they don't want to pay the you know because their dumpster is filled up or something i'd like to see it i'd like to just i'd like to just follow this a little bit further chief yeah and i don't

00:14:41 - 00:15:00 | Speaker 2:

think i'll allow it as long as you keep up with your normal case work okay because this is a product this is this is a moonlighting project for you okay i still need you to uh work all of your current murders but if you want to try to solve the mystery of operation corrugation on your own time walsh i hate that's fine Paperwork, chief.

00:15:02 - 00:15:05 | Speaker 1:

Unless the paperwork is involving trying to figure out who's dumping cardboard.

00:15:05 - 00:15:08 | Speaker 2:

Yes, that is, I guess, technically a type of paperwork. You're right.

00:15:09 - 00:15:19 | Speaker 1:

I went to – Becca got us tickets to see Wilco last night at the Schnitz, the Arlene Schnitzer Hall, which is kind of like Portland's equivalent of the Paramount.

00:15:19 - 00:15:20 | Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, yeah.

00:15:20 - 00:15:21 | Speaker 1:

For folks in Seattle.

00:15:22 - 00:15:23 | Speaker 2:

A large-ish, mid-sized venue.

00:15:23 - 00:16:40 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, pretty big, you know, maybe a couple thousand people. They played two nights, I think. they played uh uh on uh tuesday night and wednesday night and it was so fun andrew but man have i ever have i never have i ever felt more of my 45 years of age so the uh show of the the young fresh fellows opened for them and that's a perfectly fine band long time uh seattle man Scott McCoy is in that band But I told Becca I was like You know I'm glad they're doing What they're doing but let's go ahead and just try to get there When Wilco starts because that was the first thing I'm too old to sit through Like a four hour Rock show now Sit is the key word there Andrew Because she got us tickets in the balcony Actually they were such great tickets They were like the second row Of the balcony so you've got the whole Floor seating area which was seated But everybody was standing up and rocking But from where I was I could just sit and rock Could sit in the balcony See Jeff Tweedy and the gang Just in perfect clarity Groove in my seat Tap my leg like it was just Like I didn't have a care in the world But at no point be called upon to stand

00:16:40 - 00:16:51 | Speaker 2:

It would be nice if it was actually a rocking chair That would be sweet What was the kind of style of show They were putting on too Was it like a pretty rocking show Or was it pretty acoustic

00:16:51 - 00:18:39 | Speaker 1:

It was rocking It was the full on It was the full band Which is like Six dudes now And it was very electrified I mean you know They alternated between Jeff Tweedy was Swapping out his guitar As were they all Like every single song And he said at some point He goes We're just trying to play As many songs for you As we can tonight Which I really appreciated They played so many songs Because literally A song would end And then All of the You know Roadies or whatever Would run out with the guitars that had been tuned For the next song And then they would like put them on There would be like limited banter And then they'd just go right into the next song Which as a lifetime fan of that band I just really enjoyed it Because they were just playing so many songs Which was another old man thing Which was every time they'd play a song Off one of their first albums I'd be like yes I would like turn to Beck and I'd go This is off of AM Like I was like All I wanted to hear was the old stuff Even though they've had you know Many many albums over the years and many popular songs, at least popular amongst the kind of people that listen to Wilco, I just wanted to hear the old stuff. Also, Wilco was slated to start at 8.30. So we got a little bit of dinner. Neither of us eat meat. So, of course, we ended up at a steakhouse because it was the only place we could find that was near the venue and we could sit down in. And so we were doing this very annoying off-menu ordering. I was like, would it be possible to just get all these vegetables that are being offered as sides, and also the mashed potatoes. And then could you – the lady was super nice. But anyway, I was like, okay, it's about 8 – I was like, it's 8.15. Let's start walking over there. I'm like, it's a rock show. I mean, I was like, they're going to – Wilco is going to, I'm sure, take the stage at 9, 9.30, you know. We walked in at – it was probably 8.32, and they were midway through their first song.

00:18:40 - 00:18:40 | Speaker 2:

Oh, really?

00:18:41 - 00:18:44 | Speaker 1:

They had started – they might have started at 8.25.

00:18:44 - 00:18:51 | Speaker 2:

I thought that was going in the other direction. I thought you were going to say that you got there and they still didn't go on until 1030 or something.

00:18:51 - 00:20:08 | Speaker 1:

No. This is what I mean. And, again, last night it was reaffirmed for me that Wilco is my favorite band ever. Like sometimes I think maybe it's somebody else, Machine Gun Kelly or, I don't know, Drake. but um but like when i like go to a show like this and i've seen them now i mean a lot of times probably 20 30 times in various venues and in various kind of incarnations of the band i mean it's always kind of the same core group of folks but it was such a good show and it was just like again i just was like it was song after song that i was just geeked about but what i found happening was i was i started off not like singing along because i just i don't know i felt a little embarrassed or something but as the show went on and i got more into it i found myself just singing along with every song the problem was i was also wearing a k95 mask so in order to sing loudly enough that i could hear myself i guess i don't know what was going on but what it's a miracle that my voice has not i've not re-injured my voice andrew because i basically spent an hour and a half just singing as loud as I could into a K-95 mask along with Wilco last night. You were just getting your voice back, too. I was. Well, I mean, I think it's pretty much fine.

00:20:09 - 00:20:11 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't hear any catches.

00:20:11 - 00:21:52 | Speaker 1:

But I was actually a little worried. This is another thing I tell my 45-year-old guys, Andrew. It's like, oh, if I blow my voice out screaming at the Mariner game, I have to actually consider what I'm going to do to fix the situation. It doesn't just bounce back the next morning. It's like I've got to drink some throat coat now. I got to like not scream, you know, I must be high all of the lyrics to or, you know, fill in blank of Wilco song I was geeked out about. And again, I've never been to a show. I haven't been to a concert like this since the pandemic started, for one. By the way, they were very good about the vax card checking, which I appreciated, which not only they check your vax card, but they checked your ID and then they actually cross referenced it. which i've been to a lot of places where they check your vax card but they don't check your id i actually think safeco or whatever it's called t-mobile might have been one of those places where it's like i appreciate that they're checking vax cards but it feels like it's almost like they're just figuring if we say that then we're not going to get a lot of unvaxed people but if you just show up with a photo of a vax card on your phone they're like come on in and i kind of felt like do you want to look at my id real quick do you want to make sure this is really my card because I would like everyone in here to be vaccinated, please. Anyway, they were being very careful at the schnitz. So, yeah, it was just a really, really fun night. But again, it was like I was really excited I was sitting. I had a wonderful time. And then as soon as they did the encore, just got up and left, didn't want to go out carousing, just was like, oh, what a great night. Oh, 1030, we can hit the hay. Like, it was just, oh, this is how 45-year-olds rock, at least 45-year-olds named Luke Burbank.

00:21:52 - 00:21:56 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, a lot of 45-year-olds wouldn't have stuck around for the encore, so give yourself that.

00:21:56 - 00:23:20 | Speaker 1:

Oh, the encore was so good. Well, see, let me give you a comparison. Maybe the first time I ever—no, not the first time. One of the early times—the first time I ever saw Wilco was at a place called the King Cat Theater in Seattle. Me and my little sister Liz went, and I mean, I was like 21, and she was like 19 or something. Actually, she would have been younger than that. And we had such a great time. But anyway, subsequently, I saw them at a thing called Summer Nights on the Pier, and that was an outdoor show that's like where that big wheel is now in Seattle. In that general area, there was this outdoor venue on the water, which is actually a pretty great place to see a concert, at least as far as the visuals. So me and a bunch of friends went and saw Wilco. I think Toon was probably there. But this was when I was 24 or 5, and so what happened? we saw wilco then we heard a rumor that wilco was going to the tractor tavern because they wanted to see deke dickerson or something i don't know who's playing the tractor tavern so of course we're all at the show going wild getting tuned up and then we all caravan to ballard where we then get into this other club where we're just hanging out hoping wilco shows up and then we're partying and drinking and then i turn to my right and there's jeff tweedy it actually happened they came it worked you know and if i would have heard that that wilco was going to tubs afterwards not sandwich place put the hot tub rental we would have been there like wait you wouldn't have gone to the restaurant if he was going to tubs actually if he was tub thumping i would have also yeah okay

00:23:20 - 00:23:24 | Speaker 2:

yeah no the sandwich shop but like almost something like you wouldn't follow him to a tubs

00:23:24 - 00:23:42 | Speaker 1:

sandwich shop that's a good point i would follow i would have followed him anywhere i would have just been like this night will never end uh and then after that we probably would have ended up at either sunset lanes or lalani lanes it's like that was me at 25 me at 45 i was like oh this is Great. I can I can be like wheels down by 1045.

00:23:42 - 00:24:22 | Speaker 2:

This is just wonderful. Yeah, I'm like that often. You know, I'm at I'm at social events just picturing what it's going to be like when I get back home, which is a rude thing to say. Often, though, I you know, sometimes I sometimes I leave the house with that mentality, but then end up, you know, maybe enjoying myself more than I thought outside. I am I'm a little distracted now trying to figure out what Jeff Tweedy would order off of the Tubbs menu, but I don't have it memorized. And so I don't know. I mean, I like to think that he'd be interested in the turkey Cajun sandwich, too. Like, that's what that would be something that we could talk about and bond over. But I doubt it. I doubt there's bacon on that. I'll bet you Jeff Tweedy doesn't eat bacon anymore. Oh, I bet you like it's going out. You think so? OK.

00:24:22 - 00:25:17 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, he doesn't see he seems very he doesn't seem to be hung up on on just about anything. like he just seems like he's pretty go with the flow he's from the midwest uh you know he like he just doesn't i guess he doesn't seem he's pretentious about anything i can't imagine him being like is there you know is there bacon in this which is a thing that i did the other night where was i oh i was at this place uh called produce row i think did we go there i think we all went there yeah maybe when you guys were visiting as well uh becca and i and her brother we're at this place called Produce row and i was really hungry the only thing i could get on the menu were these brussels sprouts but they were um had bacon on them and i was like uh can i get the brussels sprouts uh without the bacon and the lady's like sure of course and then this lady at the table next to me went can you give me the bacon that's the best part what are you doing not getting the bacon on there that is

00:25:17 - 00:25:38 | Speaker 2:

i kind of you know what how did you feel in that moment because i could see that going either way in one way it could be like kind of funny like can i have his bacon that's a funny that's a funny response from the other table but then when other people are kind of like I don't know I've been hearing how can you not eat cheese how do you not like cheese your whole life I don't need to hear how great bacon is I'm doing my thing over here

00:25:38 - 00:26:06 | Speaker 1:

like I've had bacon I know that it's good and also we get it we all you know I think most humans agree bacon tastes good I'm not you know I laughed and I wasn't offended in the moment I thought it was kind of you know it was like fine I'm into people socializing and the lady seemed nice enough but i did think later i was like you know i don't generally weigh in on what other people are uh omitting from their orders people i've literally never met or talked to i gotta

00:26:06 - 00:26:26 | Speaker 2:

say that if somebody like no matter what it was whether it's bacon or olives or whatever it was like if it didn't come with the commentary of come on don't you know how good this food is i actually love the move and now kind of want to try it overhearing somebody right just can i have that i'll take that i'll take that without like and if i were if i were the server i think that i

00:26:26 - 00:27:09 | Speaker 1:

would do it i would say okay of course you have to finish the bit yeah no i agree with you the perfect version of that would be someone's ordering something they go um and uh no dressing on that salad and then you just quietly say to the waiter i'll take the dressing yes and then the waiter brings you the dressing that is a funny version of it now if you say to that person what you don't like thousand island what's wrong with you that's the best part are you kidding me get a load of this guy doesn't like Thousand Island that's when it becomes less fun it's a condiment it's a dressing I'm gonna say Tweety it's a sandwich it's a taco what stop trying to make that a thing Taco Bell it's not a thing I do I want to do a whole um I that exact commercial

00:27:09 - 00:27:44 | Speaker 2:

is of a genre that I can't quite put my finger on but I told Genevieve we should try to build a show around it um commercials that create false dichotomies within their own product i mean the left twix right twix is kind of the perfect example of that it's the taco it's the same thing i mean bud light killed it in the 80s with uh taste great less filling right like people arguing about the same product and in extolling the virtues at the same time that's a that's a theme that i want to explore on after these messages yeah because it's definitely what taco bell and

00:27:44 - 00:28:16 | Speaker 1:

of guess i don't know we're talking about it so it sort of worked but they're hoping you get they can get into one of those is a hot dog a sandwich yeah exactly bullshit conversations but no one's arguing about is a taco a sandwich or whatever the whatever the thing is that they're doing with the um is that it's not the guy from community i forget what that guy is from but the guy who's kind of the the the host or the proctor of whatever this like it's set up around it's like a high school debate competition and the guy running it i forget where he's from but he's i don't i can't

00:28:16 - 00:28:20 | Speaker 2:

picture him i wonder if i'd recognize i wonder if i'd you would absolutely recognize him he's in

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he is in he i i often confuse him with the principal from community he's not the principal from community but he is he's always kind of that sort of needle nose overly officious guy in like lots of movies and tv shows or maybe not so much movies but definitely tv programs but

00:28:38 - 00:28:57 | Speaker 2:

How do you feel about the Smokin' Wranglers? The Smokin' Wrangler is a Jeff Tweedy possible sandwich. It's garlic mayo, blue cheese dressing, barbecue sauce, sautéed onions, jalapenos. Jalapeno! Beef, cheddar cheese, bacon, cowboy seasoning toasted on a baguette.

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See, that feels too much to me.

00:29:00 - 00:29:01 | Speaker 2:

Too much, yeah.

00:29:01 - 00:30:29 | Speaker 1:

I feel like he would just have a pastrami sandwich or something. or whatever the – like that one sounds like it's a little bit of a show-off. And I feel like he would just have whatever the most – here's what he would have, Andrew. Whatever sandwich was the most, like, humble but surprisingly good but not self-obsessed sandwich because that's how I perceive Jeff Tweedy to be. Just, like, very down-to-earth dude who just is, like, has a zero ego. But also – I mean, last night I was, like – they played so many songs. I was, like, this guy don't miss. Like I was like Every song I was like If If somebody had like Three of these songs That they had written Ever in their life They would be In my mind A really good songwriter And he's written And this was even Scratching the catalog I was like This guy has written like A hundred songs That are all I think Objectively really good songs So sorry There's one thing though And this is gonna make our Do you have another sandwich? I guess Thank you.

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By that description, the Funky Bird is probably not going to be Tweety either.

00:30:05 - 00:30:09 | Speaker 1:

I mean, well, the Funky Bird. His last name is Tweety.

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Oh, you're right. He is the Funky Bird. It would be cannibalism.

00:30:18 - 00:31:18 | Speaker 1:

I'm sure we have a lot of listeners that like that band. They like this show. If you like this show, if you listen to public radio, the overlaps start to really happen. I'm sure we have a lot of listeners who dig Wilco and a lot of listeners who probably have a different opinion than I do on this. The only thing about Wilco, and I have been watching them for 20-plus years now live, they love to end almost every song with about four minutes of guitar fuzz and jamming. And I'm always like, I just, just, that's not my thing. It's not terrible. Sometimes I kind of enjoy it a little bit, but I'm always like, you have a beautiful song. I love your song. It's a beautiful Wilco song. And then they just decide to, to attach four minutes of just like very, very loud guitar jamming over the end of the song. And I'm like, did we need that on that song? And for me, the answer is no, we did not.

00:31:19 - 00:31:27 | Speaker 2:

Maybe someday you can ask him that. you can say would you mind do you have to play so loud does the loud part i got to that was

00:31:27 - 00:32:13 | Speaker 1:

the closest i got to that was when i did interview him i said do you have to make the lyrics to your songs all sound similar but be slightly different making it impossible to sing along without messing up and he laughed and said i know i do that a lot i have a lot of lyrics and they're like very confusing because that's that's that was actually kind of like the cool part of having a mask on was becca didn't have to see me like kind of slow like miss singing oh is this the part where he says we walked along down by the sea or is the part we said we walked along down to the sea because those are both lyrics in a song and i can never remember which part of that we're at um so anyway i have not had a chance to talk to him again but when i do when he and i are standing at the pearly gates waiting to talk to saint peter i will ask him wow why do you why do

00:32:13 - 00:32:18 | Speaker 2:

have to play so loud did not expect this going a murder suicide route why are you guys both of the

00:32:18 - 00:32:27 | Speaker 1:

no it's just together oh you think that no this planet ends at the same time you know oh i forgot we had slightly you're also going to be there i'm going to be hanging out with jeff tweedy

00:32:27 - 00:32:48 | Speaker 2:

you're just going to try to stay near jeff tweedy on earth as much as possible so that when the day comes you can hang out i think that's how that works on cue no we'll all be up there including the listeners believe me it's that's how this ends all right uh yakov smirnoff i'm like does this line ever move

00:32:48 - 00:33:20 | Speaker 1:

that would just be imagine heaven is just you're not in a lake of fire it's not hell but it is the line to get into heaven and it is every person on planet earth and you do feel like some people are cutting or like this is hell the person who keeps coming out to like check is kind of just playing fast and losing we were talking about this the other day like the person who's coming out to check who's next to come have their interview with saint peter and get into heaven is just kind of like they just go to the person that's standing closest to them even though that

00:33:20 - 00:33:49 | Speaker 2:

person just got there there's been jostling and the person who's like inviting people in is like their eyes land on you for just a brief moment every single time and you try to get their attention but then before you can their eyes are to have just moved on and they've just passed someone's just been saving a spot oh other people they brought their jacket they have their halo is is off and like on the seat next to them they don't have a halo yet they're not in oh you're right sorry anything about heaven andrew i don't i know a lot about heaven i don't know about the

00:33:49 - 00:34:49 | Speaker 1:

line to get into heaven unfortunately oh this is the bad place yes we're in the bad place All right. Let's take a quick break. And then when we come back briefly and quickly, I want to tell you about my gaffe in the elevator yesterday. And then we'll do some top stories as well. Stay with us here on TBTL. all right let's thank some donors of the day these are the people keeping the show going donating every month and making it possible for us to bring you tbtl five days a week 52 weeks a year. Sarah Brown is in Lafayette, Louisiana. Wow. Sarah, hope you're doing well. I know it's been a tumultuous couple of months weather-wise down in that part of the world. Hope you're good. Michael Havens is in Tumwater, Washington.

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Tumwater. I always think of it as one of the repeater stations on KUOW. Tumwater, when I was a kid, had the state...

00:35:00 - 00:35:21 | Speaker 1:

champion football team you always hear about tumwater in the king bowl king bowl happened actually at the tacoma dome and it would be the uh all the all the top state high school football teams would get together and duke it out at the king bowl and that was when i first became aware of tumwater i bet michael havens knows much more about tumwater he knows more than just their 80s

00:35:21 - 00:35:26 | Speaker 2:

high school football exploits they were tum something is what you call it they sure were

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Yes Steven Lee is in Shelton, Connecticut I saw that Shelton And I thought maybe it would be the Shelton, Washington Where my sister actually lives And my nieces, Maddie and Mary Who are regular listeners of the show At least Maddie is Steven's also a regular listener But he's out in Connecticut And he's a regular donor Which is even more important Maddie, would you ever consider donating to your uncle's show? It's really easy to tell me Stop talking about Dear Evan Hansen And it's much harder to light a torch and kick me, you know, a couple bucks every month. That's all I ask. Pay to play. Paul Pope. It's going to be a really awkward Thanksgiving, Maddie, if you don't step it up. Paul Pope is in Annapolis, Maryland. Paul, thank you for the support. We really do appreciate you. Carolyn Oliver is in Allison Park, PA. I don't know if I've ever heard of that place. I don't think so either.

00:36:23 - 00:36:25 | Speaker 2:

It sounds like an author. That would be a great nom de plume.

00:36:26 - 00:37:31 | Speaker 1:

I write under the name Alison Park, yes. I write, what would the genre be? Would it be kind of some Janet Ivanovich stuff? What is that? Janet Ivanovich is the nom de plume of, I forget, the more famous writer, but she writes, the Janet Ivanovich books are about this detective. I've got some listeners throwing their phones before, yeah. But that's the nom de plume of a Different famous kind of thriller Writer yeah I don't know what the Allison Park I mean really if you have a nom de plume I mean you have to write mysteries right Like if you're writing under a nom de plume There isn't a different kind of genre Of book you can't write memoir And there's just not enough books like you have to Basically like figure out a main Character there are they do Whatever it is they do and then they encounter different situations and scenarios and those are the different books right it almost always has to be a mystery i think or like that's to be kind of the premise of the whole thing you mean if you're

00:37:31 - 00:37:43 | Speaker 2:

writing under a a different name you're going to be doing some sort of like some sort of speculative fiction or something that isn't just like your average novel about american life is that the

00:37:43 - 00:37:53 | Speaker 1:

argument i mean if you're gonna do a series so like janet ivanovich is uh oh wow wait janet

00:37:53 - 00:37:58 | Speaker 2:

ivanovich is a real person oh that's not that's not a just a writer no i was totally wrong sorry

00:37:58 - 00:38:09 | Speaker 1:

everyone who got mad janet ivanovich is a real person i'm forgetting who uh the um uh i'm forgetting who the person is who has a side project yeah but i know what you're talking

00:38:09 - 00:38:17 | Speaker 2:

about those those types of books where it's like a is for any yes the knife or whatever and then

00:38:17 - 00:38:35 | Speaker 1:

you go through you mean an an allison park mystery right see it's funny any hides your knife and allison new york times from the new york times best-selling author of uh jerry get your gun it's any hide your knife and allison park mystery yeah you know i didn't have it like

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that i didn't have allison park as like a a a series writer but you may be right on that for some reason i just had like kind of a i can't remember the woman who wrote the story where'd you go bernadette um oh you've you've probably had her on various shows we have we've had her on uh

00:38:51 - 00:38:57 | Speaker 1:

live wire where'd you go bernadette and her name is escaping me maria semple i got it there you go

00:38:57 - 00:39:05 | Speaker 2:

yes exactly this sort of pictured it like that but no i see what you're saying but anyway we should probably just get back to the matter at hand here you don't want me to read more from the

00:39:05 - 00:39:31 | Speaker 1:

about page of janet ivanovich's bio i'm here for it uh her pets she has a havanese named ollie her favorite food is birthday cake oh her favorite tasty cake is butterscotch crimpets i might have to start reading janet ivanovich because of how dead on that is the best tasty cake get at me new jersey and pa the best tasty cake without a question is a butterscotch crimpet and did you

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say i mean we really do need to move on but did you end up saying what series ivanovich writes is it um do we have a name of it is it well she writes a bunch of them she has a stephanie plumb

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novel stephanie she has a thing you did say but that's not who i was thinking of the one that i'm thinking of is um uh has a different name it's like romey or something but again she has just like she uh she writes so many different books and series there was basically there was one that Vanessa used to read back in the day those ones were

00:40:00 - 00:41:06 | Speaker 2:

I forget. I'm reading them now. I think those are probably the Walter Mosley. She turned me on to Walter Mosley a while back. The Easy Rollins series. And these were Janet. They were definitely Ivanovich ones. They were literally. And it was this like brassy, you know, police detective woman whose name was something that started with an R. And, you know, Van was always sort of like, you know, felt like it wasn't like the book that you pull out with the most pride at the airport. But she didn't care because she was just like these books are just so unbelievably readable. Yes, and also it's the airport. By the way, can I just say, though, that is interesting. Like, I made that joke about, like, the A is for any hydrant knife or whatever. It's so funny. That is like a series, and I'm thinking of Walter Mosley, the one I'm reading now. All of his Easy Rollins ones have a color in the title, Devil in a Blue Dress, Red Death, White Butterfly, Black Betty, et cetera. And these Ivanovich ones are one for the money, two for the dough, three to get deadly, four to score, high five, hot six, seven up, hard eight. That's as far as Google goes. But that is a thing.

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I love it. And I think it is Stephanie Plum. So I want to apologize to all of our Ivanovich heads out there who first heard me describe Janet Ivanovich as being the nom de plume of someone else, which was incorrect. then had me saying that the main character their name starts with an R. It's not. It appears to be Stephanie Plum. So I hope... Those are 28 and it's coming out next month. Those are some great names by the way. I hope Carol and Oliver is not an Ivanovich head because we need her to keep donating to the show and I may have just fully alienated those folks. Also, Breanne Allen is in Kirkland, Washington. Nice. Breanne, thank you for the support. Thanks to all of our donors of the day. Thanks for making the show possible day in and day out we really that was me turning my microphone down when i was trying to i didn't hear a difference the next sound effect ready right after i say thank you so much for supporting tbtl hello and welcome to top story uh i um got in the elevator yesterday and uh a guy was on the same floor as me who i don't remember ever having talked to I've kind of started to be, right as I'm moving out of this building, kind of have a little just sort of casual, you know, chatty friendship with some people on my floor if we happen to take the elevator at the same time. But you see, you know how it is. You see a person a few times, and you kind of recognize them, and you kind of feel like, oh, I can make small talk with them. Then there are the other people you get in who you haven't ever talked to before, like on different floors, and you're probably never going to see them again. And so you kind of don't necessarily want to get invested in a conversation more than just maybe saying, have a good day when you leave the elevator. I always wonder when you get in the elevator with someone and there is no conversation and then you get down to the ground floor and they say, have a great day. I always wonder, were they wanting to talk the whole time? Were they just wanting to be not rude when they left the elevator? Or they felt like you had a moment, even though you weren't talking. They clearly felt like you had a moment and they needed to close it out. So this guy got in the elevator. We both got in the elevator on the same floor And we rode down And then somebody else got in somewhere And then we got down to the ground floor And he turned to me And he like waved Like almost was going to high five And he said like have a great day And then walked out And I was so caught off guard by that Because again he's not one of the people That I have a sort of a memory of talking to He didn't just kind of do a like You know have a good day or whatever It was like the most interactive Anyone's gotten with me in that elevator And it came out of the total blue And so I didn't know what to say I was also just like probably lost in my thoughts So something about him physically turning towards me And then also being really demonstratively like You know have a great day or whatever it was You know I was like I didn't know what to say I don't know if I should say bye Or if I should say thanks or you too or whatever And again it just all was happening very quickly As the elevator door opened So I guess I tried to say cheers

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but instead I just said cheese cheese and then I realized maybe he thinks I'm British like I said cheers like but like if if he thinks I'm British then it would have made sense that I said cheers but I said it in a kind of a British way like oh cheers like so now if I see him again I have to pretend to be British for the next three weeks that I live here because otherwise saying cheese to someone as they as they very nicely say have a great day and i say cheese that is so i mean that's like way worse than when you're at the airport and they say have a good flight and you say you too or you know whatever those little things that happen in life i think saying cheese to someone after they're doing it they're dumping the boxes i'm watching them dump the boxes

00:44:55 - 00:45:38 | Speaker 2:

who is i'm sorry to interrupt i can't tell somebody just walked up oh you know what it is our unhoused guy huh so he just collected a bunch of boxes from somewhere and just leaned them up against the wall and then just left so it's not really serving a purpose but in his brain somewhere you know maybe he's tidying up you know maybe he i don't know where he got them from he probably just makes his rounds around the neighborhood anyway i'm sorry i got my heart leapt out of my chest there. I was seeing it. I was seeing it in action. I was waiting to see, like, could I enhance, enhance, and see, like, a logo of a restaurant on somebody's hat or something. But no, it's just a guy that society has left behind.

00:45:38 - 00:45:48 | Speaker 1:

So then what's the, I mean, you'll have to talk to Vives about it, but, I mean, is it just, is the response no response? Is it just, Vives will just continue to go down and occasionally clean up the cardboard?

00:45:49 - 00:46:19 | Speaker 2:

Hold on, what's my login for next door? I'm trying to get, no, I don't know. i mean if it's him and i i know this guy like he sleeps in the um the little vestibule sometimes next to where i live like i see him around and he you know he's the type of guy that people give a wide berth to but he's not he's he presents absolutely no threat or danger i feel like i know this guy he's been basically a neighbor for like three years now so um no i don't think that there's really any action there other than we will you know kind of clean it up continue to

00:46:19 - 00:46:43 | Speaker 1:

clean up the cardboard yeah but you're saying it serves no purpose so that like in other words there's no way this is part of some kind of a dwelling situation this is probably somebody who as you said I thought it was an interesting way to describe it I kind of like it someone who's not having a rational day yeah did I say that yeah he's just like probably collecting the cardboard because that's what his brain is telling him to do but it's not to any end that you can

00:46:43 - 00:46:55 | Speaker 2:

really see yeah that's my guess well we have an answer and it happened before the camera fell down really that was my big thing I was monitoring the camera yesterday just waiting for it to see if I'm going to look and it's going to be in the bushes. So when you say

00:46:55 - 00:46:59 | Speaker 1:

installed it, you don't mean you screwed it into a wall. You placed it on a

00:46:59 - 00:47:11 | Speaker 2:

ledge. Well, I'm sorry. I totally interrupted your story about this. I just got so excited. I was seeing it. I mean, Operation Corrugation just paid off. But it's somewhat complicated. They come with these...

00:47:11 - 00:47:46 | Speaker 1:

I mean, it did pay off. I guess it paid off in that you now know. We have the answer, yeah. But I feel like you have the answer. So to that degree, it paid off. it would have been a much better case if it was somebody from a business who was just being shady you know you know what I mean like it would have been great if it was just like if you caught someone red handed what you caught was somebody who would appear to be dealing with mental illness just doing something that kind of serves no purpose it would have been great if it was the people from the stereo place that I already kind of don't like see that would have been it was paying off to me

00:47:46 - 00:48:34 | Speaker 2:

right yeah well Well, it's good to have an answer because, again, I think – and this is where my brain isn't rational. I don't like this part of it, but it's like this was where I had a scenario in my head where somebody was just, like, shirking their responsibilities potentially and saying, I don't feel like recycling this the proper way. But there's a place where we just could – like maybe even the owner of a business – and, again, I'm picturing a restaurant here because they're all food boxes. Like, hey, just take this around the corner, will you? You know, like to the kid who's new on the job or whatever, like get rid of these boxes. And so, like, I was already like sort of shadow boxing somebody who was being, you know, willfully breaking the law or just, you know, willfully being a jerk. But that's not what's going on here. Like this guy is, you know, out there surviving.

00:48:34 - 00:48:42 | Speaker 1:

Now, what if this guy's brain told him to start putting the cardboard into your actual recycling? At what point do you do the lie?

00:48:42 - 00:48:52 | Speaker 2:

Well, honestly, if that were to happen, then I would probably put a lock on my recycling. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not going to – again, I'm not going to mess with this guy. And, again, he's not just some stranger. Like, I see this guy, like, almost every day.

00:48:53 - 00:49:59 | Speaker 1:

I have a dude on my jogging route that I guess I would say I feel like I kind of know him. He's somebody who is always out by the river and is – clearly he's dealing with a lot of what would appear to be mental health issues. He's pretty unkempt and stuff. And it's one of those things where you sort of wonder, how aware of the outside world is this person in this moment? But I just started flashing him a peace sign when I jog by him, and now he flashes me a peace sign. Oh, nice. And I don't know why that is – I'm not – I promise – the point of the story is not to be like, go Luke, building connections with unhoused people in his neighborhood. It's just this kind of odd thing where I really like that he – when he sees me now – because, I mean, he's – again, he's one of those people that you would kind of really just wonder what his connection to reality is on any level. But there's a person in there, which I'm not – that's not anything profound. But it's like – and now I give him a peace sign and he gives me a peace sign. And it's like that little moment like it happened this morning. I'm always like, yeah. You would have that same feeling if it – I mean maybe not the exact same feeling. but like I think having a little connection

00:50:00 - 00:50:17 | Speaker 2:

with a neighbor like if you pass that same guy and he looked like he was a a businessman going off to businessman work every day but he every day you passed him while he was eating a bagel sandwich and you gave him a peace sign and you developed a little rapport i think you would still get a kick out of that i'm just i think i would get less of a kick out of it i really less

00:50:17 - 00:51:46 | Speaker 1:

of a kick right because that mr businessman is going to his businessman place i mean that's a person who i'm trying to be very careful with how i talk about all this stuff because it's obviously very fraught but like that's a person who's doing lots of things throughout the day that fit into the quote-unquote rules of society you know that's a person who is like if i waved at you on the street and you waved at me and i didn't know you it would be nice it's nice it is nice to have a connection i agree with you it is nice to have a connection with people whatever is going on in their life but to see this guy who is i you know he's just so um disheveled and he's he's wearing you know five coats and he'll sometimes sleep in these very awkward positions and i wonder if he's okay and and and again i just i think about him and i think about what what's it feel like to be inside that person's mind you know and it's just and it's like to to just have this very brief moment of like mutual recognition of each other's humanity and to know that that's still a thing in his brain his brain is still like hey someone flash me a peace sign i'm gonna flash it back like it just makes me happy that that's still something his brain is doing i guess if that makes any sense where if someone is someone is you know a high functioning person who's got a home and a job and they're able to go do all those things it's still really nice to have to wave at someone or to say cheese to them in the elevator i mean those are all nice social interaction but oh should i start saying cheese to my to my dude out there on the river yeah no

00:51:46 - 00:52:44 | Speaker 2:

and i wanted to say too yeah it is kind of a bummer this guy that i'm talking about who i see and maybe maybe not daily but quite a bit several times a week around the neighborhood you know I almost always give him a quick nod or a smile or a wave or a hello and he doesn't respond actually and sometimes he'll be standing right in our little vestibule thing and you know he's a he's a tall man very bearded has been on the streets for a very long time apparently and so he can be an intimidating figure and so sometimes if we're having food delivered I'll have to ask him to kind of like you know hey hey could you let could you let the food guy through or whatever and he always like responds by you know moving um but he never he never i can't i have not been able to develop any kind of a rapport with him and i don't know what's going on with him but i'm just better at it and i know care about the other house more than you do um let me ask you this though let's go back to your story that i so rudely interrupted i mean i have a bit of a theory i can't remember exactly where i interrupted you but i wanted to go back this person who you don't do i have this right you don't remember having an engagement with this person in the past but the person gave

00:52:44 - 00:53:31 | Speaker 1:

I remember being in the elevator with him before, because we both live on the same floor. But I don't remember us having any kind of chat that I remember. And so I recognize him because he's a pretty fit dude. And I think last time I saw him, he was maybe on his way to the gym in the building or something. But I didn't have the sense that he and I have any kind of... Like, there's another guy on my floor who had this really... I sent you and Chris this shirt. That was a very cool shirt. It was a sweatshirt. and it just says nah like n-a-h is the thing and then it's just like it's attributed to rosa parks oh yeah rosa parks i did like that's a cool shirt um and so that guy i see him a lot and we kind of chat and we have now a report this dude this other dude is not on that list of people

00:53:31 - 00:54:22 | Speaker 2:

that i have any kind of rapport with um i did want to ask though i guess if you've seen him on the elevator before and there has not been any kind of um any kind of an awkward or otherwise interaction this might belie what i'm about to say but um i was thinking there are a lot of people in portland who know who you are but don't necessarily want to say hey you're luke burbank like maybe this isn't like your doctor who wanted to let you know that he's a big fan but his wife is not um but uh you know what i mean this could be somebody who rode the elevator with you and the whole time was thinking oh man that's luke burbank i listen to him every saturday on live wire and i think you might have a podcast that also doesn't get promoted um and then and then got to the bottom you know i mentioned live wire in that press release which i thought was really strange um anyway you know what i mean i was just thinking that could be somebody who was like oh

00:54:22 - 00:55:00 | Speaker 1:

that's cool you know i guess it gives you a big goodbye that's i you know what and now he well he knows i'm not british if that's the case and he now is like he's gonna tell someone yeah i live in this building with this guy he's on public radio and i said bye to him in the elevator and He said cheese. I don't know what he meant by that. Actually, you could be right. It's a very weird micro-celebrity to enjoy of hosting a public radio show or whatever. But now that I live in Portland, I will say that I have noticed that there is somewhat more of an awareness of me, of my existence.

00:55:00 - 00:55:17 | Speaker 2:

resistance i went to the bank the other day and i'm just handing the guy i'm of course i'm super masked up whatever and i'm just like handing the guy some uh some deposits or whatever and he goes are you on the radio i literally hadn't even said a word to him i was like oh yeah i am i and i was

00:55:17 - 00:55:22 | Speaker 3:

kind of taking so you hadn't even used your voice yet no and i also don't think i have a particularly

00:55:22 - 00:56:23 | Speaker 2:

memorable voice i think i have like a middle-aged white dude voice but i um i was i i almost had a bad reaction to it because i don't know why but i felt like the bank is another place that i'm just like it's like the bank and the doctor's office feel fairly sort of sacrosanct to me or something like i mean there's nothing it was the guy was perfectly nice it was totally fine but i just my reaction was weirdly not to be like oh hey thanks it was more to be like oh shit how did you figure that out and now you know how much money i have in this u.s bank savings account yeah right it's kind of like that's interesting i don't know it just felt a little personal um i was depositing cash that i won at goldie's on saturday night oh wow congrats big night hey thanks yeah weirdly i mean you know not we're not talking life-changing money but we're talking you know in a grand of money and so i was like i'm gonna go i'll just deposit this in this savings account i have for big projects and whatever so also i think i felt weird because i was giving him grimy casino money yeah like who walks in yeah right with grimy casino money and

00:56:23 - 00:56:32 | Speaker 3:

is like depositing it right right right if you could have like had it come off as strip club money that would have been even more interesting because in this case you're the stripper you're

00:56:32 - 00:57:53 | Speaker 2:

the performer right exactly i um and then last night when uh becca and i were just like walking up some stairs uh in the schnitz someone yelled luke and i thought oh it must be someone i know i turned around and it was these two very nice young women who said and i was like huh and then they said are you luke and i said yeah and they said oh we're fans we just saw you we were fans i was like oh thank you so much um i don't know if they're tbtl listeners or live wire people or whatever but i was kind of surprised too because again i had like a pretty robust mask on i guess my point is i'm very famous and it's going great no my point is i am just so used to uh you know not being a person who is there's any kind of public awareness of at least in situations where I'm just walking around living my life if I go to a taping of wait wait obviously afterwards we sign some autographs and the people who have come to that show are probably like oh that guy was on stage but you know hosting a public radio show and a podcast with you is not the kind of thing where people are very frequently aware of any of that and so I never think of that as a possible factor in any interactions I'm having but you're right it could totally be it could be a factor particularly in Portland where I think is my to the degree that anyone's aware of me it's the most pronounced here probably genevieve was on a panel with a with a listener

00:57:53 - 00:58:07 | Speaker 3:

yesterday with a 10 oh uh our friend sumathy who also i ran into on the street like two weeks ago here in the roosevelt neighborhood she assures me that she is not stalking but uh yeah it turns out well i should yeah and anyway they have some professional connections and they were sitting

00:58:07 - 00:58:39 | Speaker 2:

together on a panel yesterday wow world yeah yeah all right um let's see here i i have to skedaddle because i'm getting on an airplane i'm flying to your city andrew your city of seattle washington so i maybe we'll do the finsta story tomorrow um because it's it's pretty funny was sent in by listener um uh schaefer and it's some pretty funny tape and again i think it'll it'll make us feel better about our message nothing will make me feel good about my janet ivanovich situation um but it may help with some other stuff so i guess we'll just get into that tomorrow

00:58:39 - 00:59:04 | Speaker 1:

There's a right way to rock And a wrong way to roll You can just listen to your soul Just remember that life is number one You can be having so much fun Just remember that life is much fun You can be number one

00:59:09 - 00:59:39 | Speaker 3:

All right, let's get into some Blur's Days here. Paula says, happy 26th birthday to my co-bro and real-life daughter, Elizabeth. It's unbelievable. We've been listening to this pod cart for nearly half of your life. I am happy of myself for giving birth to the strong, loving, independent soul that is you. As you continue to discover who you are, remember, no mountain too tall, and I love you most of all. Hope your day is full of 360 spins and slam dunk pointers.

00:59:41 - 01:00:13 | Speaker 2:

I was, like, setting up some account. I was setting up, like, a utilities account or something for this new place. And it was the weirdest thing. They were like, we need you to come up with a phrase. And I was like, a phrase. I was like, what? It wasn't a pin, and they were like, you know, something that would be hard for people to guess. And I almost put, no mountain too tall. And then I was like, anybody who listens to the show would immediately, if they were trying to hack into my utilities, that's not what I used. I used something else.

01:00:13 - 01:00:13 | Speaker 1:

What'd you use?

01:00:15 - 01:00:18 | Speaker 2:

360 spin. Slam dunk pointer.

01:00:18 - 01:00:19 | Speaker 1:

Social engineering.

01:00:19 - 01:00:43 | Speaker 2:

Brian says, here I am once again, in the last minute, wanting to wish my very special 10 in crime, Lindsay, a super special. Blur's Day. Waiting to the last possible minute to write this is what I do best. It might be the big 4-0 but you don't look a day over 25 to me. Thanks for getting me hooked on this crazy imaginary radio train so many years ago.

01:00:45 - 01:01:08 | Speaker 1:

Now I should mention I'm now just remembering this. This came in last Thursday afternoon. So there's a chance and we record in the morning. So there's a chance that last minute talk was for last week or Brian just really Brian's one of those people where if you're 10 minutes early You're still late because otherwise he would have been A full week early on that one Is it possible that he's so late

01:01:08 - 01:01:15 | Speaker 2:

He's early for next year Or this was for Last year's birthday It's about working smarter not harder

01:01:15 - 01:01:51 | Speaker 1:

Aaron from Westfield I don't know where Westfield is but Aaron from Westfield Says I want to send a blessed Trucktober Blursday message To my dearest friend Megan Hamilton Or Hammy As she's affectionately known See I usually take out the last names Well you can't take out the last names When the nickname Hammy is based on it We've been friends for over 20 years now And I consider her one of my closest confidants I love her dearly And hope we can rendezvous At a TBTL event someday Wishing her the most extraordinary Of Trucktober Blur's days

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Aww

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Levi says

01:01:54 - 01:03:03 | Speaker 2:

Happy slightly belated Berksday greeting to Jeremy Blurs no wait happy Slightly Belated Blurs Day greeting to Jeremy Burke Jeremy is a hell of a sweet guy and a wonderful songwriter with one of the coolest voices out there I can attest Jeremy has been on Livewire Jeremy is an incredible singer, songwriter, performer maybe one day we'll hang out in a bar and watch each other play songs to 10 to 20 other people again that's not a bad turnout we've had Livewires with fewer of them but again until then we will always have tbtl this is a weird place for me to take it but i'm really kind of chuffed to hear that jeremy still keeps track of tbtl all these years that i know levi does because he levi and i email sometimes and stuff but i'm glad to hear that jeremy is still out there somewhere checking out what we're doing because uh we love jeremy happy blursday bud levi had a real run in at the uh dmv last week didn't oh my gosh yeah we should you and i should have a convo about if we want to try to track down barf bag lady the listeners already said yes whatever that means whatever you just said the answer is yes track down barf bag lady allison says now this makes

01:03:03 - 01:03:29 | Speaker 1:

me wonder is this allison parks the fictional writer the fictional fiction writer possibly allison says i would like to wish no i already messed it up i would like to give happy blursday wishes to my wonderful husband justin i have enjoyed growing old with you everything we do together makes me smile from waking up at 2 a.m. to laugh about the stupid things you do in my dreams to our adventurous cramping trips you are my rock hope that cat doesn't smother you in your

01:03:29 - 01:04:10 | Speaker 2:

sleep we type ah laura would like to wish a happy milestone blurs day and house aversary to donna in baltimore it's been quite a year of home ownership and friendship i'm so thankful to have you as my friend of more than a decade and as an aunt to Vincent. May your next decade be filled with laughs, love, and less garbage anxiety. That sounds like a real TV show listener. What you do is you set up a camera, Donna, you set up a camera and you can figure out who's doing what to your garbage. All's quiet on the garbage front right now, by the way. On the cardboard front.

01:04:10 - 01:04:43 | Speaker 1:

It's a great, it's one of Hemingway's greats. It's unsung. Greg says, happy actual Blur's Day to our newest five, Angus Bruce. He was born at 725 this Saturday, and Mom Rachel, Dad Greg, and Big Sister Larkin could not be more thrilled to have him join our family. We love you to the moon and back, Little Squish. Oh, come on, my heart. Can't argue with Little Squish. Congratulations, Greg and Rachel. That's really great. That's awesome. Happy Blur's Day to all.

01:04:43 - 01:04:59 | Speaker 2:

And to all a good Blur's Day. Could we go with a Wilco song today? Yeah, what do you like? How about Box Full of Letters? That was like the one song that I was really hoping they would play last night. Actually, you know what? You know what? Sorry.

01:05:00 - 01:05:29 | Speaker 4:

Let's see. Let's just do a box full of letters. I could sit here all day thinking on Wilco songs I'd love to hear, but this is a good one. All right, that's going to do it for today's episode of the program. I will be back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio. I will be, actually, in the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington, with you, Andrew. That's right. I hope that's all right. Yes, I'm looking forward to it. This isn't the first you're hearing of it. No, this is good. I just got a few cardboard boxes I need to drop off in your side yard.

01:05:29 - 01:05:35 | Speaker 3:

I'm looking forward to it. We have not done a show in person, I think, since we were on the road together. It seems like forever ago.

01:05:35 - 01:05:48 | Speaker 4:

All right. Well, I'll see you tomorrow, and we'll see all of you out there in listener land as well. Thanks for hanging out with us today. Have a great rest of your Thursday. Stay safe. Go Seahawks. And please remember, don't be too tall. No doubt. And good luck to all.

01:05:48 - 01:06:54 | Speaker 1:

I just can't find the time to write my mind the way I want it to read. You'll come back again. And I'll still be your friend. I got a lot of your records in a separate stack. Some things that I might like to hear, but I guess I'll give them back. I wish I had a lot of answers. Is that the way it should be? Are all these questions been directed at me? Just can't find the time to write my mind the way I want to read.

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You'll come back again.

01:07:04 - 01:07:23 | Speaker 2:

Sharon Stone, William Baldwin, Tom Berenger. At 113 East 38th Street, the view from the outside is nothing compared to the view inside. That slipper starts Friday, May 21st at theaters everywhere. Power out.

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