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#3533 If You Can't Tweet Them, Join Them
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#3533 If You Can't Tweet Them, Join Them

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

October 15, 2021 | 01:09:48 | Leisure, Comedy

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Andrew confesses to some embarrassing Twitter-related action this morning. Luke can relate. Plus, why you should never ask to see the chef at a restaurant, and other TBTL advice.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:06 | Speaker 1:

Do you hear the one about the guy who couldn't afford personalized plates, so he went and changed his name to J3L2404?

00:00:07 - 00:00:12 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a good one. T! T! T! T! B! T! B!

00:00:12 - 00:00:15 | Unknown:

T! T! T! T! T! T! T! T!

00:00:15 - 00:00:21 | Speaker 2:

T! That's a good joke! That's clever. Thank you. It's not clever. It sure as hell isn't a good joke.

00:00:21 - 00:00:25 | Speaker 1:

Guess what day it is! Guess what day it is!

00:00:25 - 00:00:34 | Speaker 2:

It's Friday! Friday! Gotta get down on Friday! everybody's looking forward to the weekend because you're a chicken you're a chicken

00:00:34 - 00:00:43 | Speaker 1:

what are you doing Michael and women that's what I was just telling you

00:00:43 - 00:02:36 | Speaker 3:

has anyone in this family ever even seen a chicken I just might have tacos tonight it's in material they think you're awesome they think you're number one they think you're the B-E-S-T. Wait, that didn't even spell anything. Hit it. All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Two bros, bro, hit it up. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host. Podcaster, the future of show business. Coming to you from the Nest Broadcast Center, high in the sky, above a beautiful, just a blue sky, a crisp fall day. Looking out on the city of Portland, Oregon. California got sunshine. Going out to a pumpkin patch this weekend. Actually going out to see my brother and his girlfriend who are working seasonally at this pumpkin patch. And we're going on Sunday, which, of course, is the one day that it's going to be raining. But today and tomorrow should be really nice around here. I know this is extremely relevant information for somebody listening to this podcast in three months. Was Saturday or Sunday going to be the good day To go to a pumpkin patch in Portland Three weeks ago When I live in Charlottesville I don't know They say podcast what you know And what I know is that I'm very excited It's Friday and we're almost at the weekend After what was for me a pretty busy week Including a really fun night Last night here in Portland At the Alberta Rose Theater Doing the Livewire radio show You want showmanship? You got it Super nice getting to see a couple of 10s out there and a bunch of other folks and being in a live environment. So that was pretty awesome. This is going to be pretty awesome. Episode 3533 in a collector's series.

00:02:36 - 00:02:37 | Speaker 2:

Let the fun begin.

00:02:39 - 00:03:58 | Speaker 3:

I don't want to keep pouring gasoline on this fire to the degree that this show possesses enough gasoline to draw attention to things. but this william shatner going into space story continues now they're breaking down how much it actually cost he didn't obviously pay for it like bezos paid for it now he's getting into it with one of the royals you gotta be kidding me i don't mean like the baseball team i mean the royal family trying to think of two entities who i care about less than william shatner and the royals and and yet now they're beefing, and here it is, a top story on TBTL. Life's funny that way, isn't it? Also, there is some research out that indicates that people are actually making decisions around what they name their children based on technology. Hey, Gorgle, what's a toyger? Certain names are being used much less. Other names are being used more frequently based on tech. So we'll talk about that. Plus, it's a Friday, so we'll do some music for your weekend, and we'll talk to this guy, the longest-running Cobra of the show, Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships I don't want to make it weird right at the top of the show But I have just a, I don't know A little bit of professional feedback for him About, I don't know, the way he's been co-hosting the show lately

00:03:58 - 00:04:03 | Speaker 1:

It's time for you to stop blowing air up your chicken

00:04:03 - 00:04:19 | Speaker 3:

He is Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now From the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington Good morning, my friend Good morning, that's fair feedback, I would say I'm glad you're taking it in the spirit that it's intended I mean, it pisses me off, but it's fair. Far too much air up your chicken on the show. No, it's definitely true. Really move away from that space.

00:04:19 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 2:

I like to, you know, anything that I do that is in the great WMMS tradition is good by me. I'm going to start the show today awkwardly because I deleted a tweet today. Partially because of you, by the way. I don't like to admit this, but you were living in my head a little bit this morning. I had a tweet that I tweeted and then I thought if Luke sees that I wasn't trying to be super weird about it but I thought if Luke sees that he's going to think that I'm trying to do an old friend 99 style weird tweet and I thought it'll be a topic on the show if I leave this up and I left it up there for maybe two minutes it got no engagement and I took it

00:05:00 - 00:05:45 | Speaker 1:

down but essentially what i tweeted was and maybe it is an actual topic of conversation i'm not just trying to mention my twitter feed so that i get more follows although it is cool andrew 69 at gmail that's my twitter account um but i just tweeted are we still uh or what did i tweet it doesn't matter what i tweeted but here's the point it related to this topic remember that period we lived through in like 2019 where everything was cake like everything was literally made of cake and you would like yes and they would like cut it open and be like a water bottle but wait a minute it's cake that water bottle is cake i'm glad that that's over like we're back to normal now essentially right like things are just things again not everything is cake right yeah that

00:05:45 - 00:05:50 | Speaker 2:

trend has passed things have returned to being the actual thing we thought they were it feels

00:05:50 - 00:07:07 | Speaker 1:

better i feel yes i feel like i'm on more solid ground i don't have to worry about things being cake all around me all the time that's all i think that's a good i think but you thought what was the actual construction of that's what i was in the style of of weird twitter well i don't think it was but i thought i would be accused of that um because we were talking about weird twitter yesterday i think i also there was i think what i wrote was sorry i'm working this out in my head obviously i don't have it in front of me it's deleted it's gone um but i think i said is is everything still cake or are we back to normal and then i think my problem with it was was i should have said is everything still made of cake right or are we back to talking about the band cake or just like cake like things are easy like is everything still cake i think that was actually what was kind of bothering me about it construction like everything's still okay it didn't make a lot of sense it wasn't that great of a tweet obviously to begin with but um that was the other part of it was I thought you would see that and be like I was doing a bad imitation of old friend 99 and then secondly I was like also it's confusing I should have said is everything still made of cake not is everything still cake so I'm gonna guess that it lasted on the internet for two or maybe three minutes and if anybody saw it nobody engaged with it so it's gone now

00:07:07 - 00:09:08 | Speaker 2:

I've already deleted a tweet this morning that I have not only deleted from Twitter Andrew I've deleted it from my brain because when you started talking about that I was like oh that'll be funny I'll follow this up, Andrew's story, with my anecdote about a tweet that I deleted this morning, and then I went back to Twitter to try to see if – because, like, it got a couple of likes, but I don't understand this website even though I spend way too much time on it. But I can't even find, like, the poor souls who liked a thing that I put out there that I've now – I mean, literally erased from my brain, Andrew. I cannot even tell – it wasn't like it was too hot for Twitter. It was just – I think it was just not funny. or something i don't know there was i was i'll be totally honest i was lying in bed i was summoning the gumption to get out of bed and take on the day and i was cruising around the internet on my phone and i tweeted something out i forget what it was now and then about five minutes later i thought eh i don't know and then i deleted it and uh oh i know what it was oh god thank you Thank you So much better America for letting me work through this Because it was going to really bug me It's actually kind of relevant to today's show So this is good I saw our friend Chi-town I can't say the next part Of his Instagram handle My friend Ramon from Rossi's in Chicago And O'Callaghan's We talk about his Instagram feed On the show sometimes because he tweets out Lots of memes and some of them are pretty dank Some of them are pretty funny Some of them are not really in the kind of language Or whatever that you and I tend to use Or the, you know, whatever It's a little edgier than we get A little more maybe, you know, barstool sports Than we really go for But he had insta'd out Something It's like I don't know if this is the new The new Michael Myers from Halloween Or if, and this will explain Why I deleted it

00:09:08 - 00:09:09 | Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, I saw this.

00:09:09 - 00:09:26 | Speaker 2:

Okay, you see this, right? I saw it, yeah. It's basically like Michael Myers, but it looks like the – because, you know, they were putting a new Halloween film out with Jamie Lee Curtis. But this Michael Myers looks like he's put on a lot of weight. And so I forget what the meme was, but it was something like when the only thing you've been murdering is Taco Bell.

00:09:26 - 00:09:29 | Speaker 1:

His tacos on – those tacos on Tuesday, I believe is what it was.

00:09:29 - 00:09:34 | Speaker 2:

So I thought that was funny, but then I also realized, oh, man, that looks so much like William Shatner.

00:09:35 - 00:09:36 | Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah.

00:09:36 - 00:09:50 | Speaker 2:

So I screen capped it and I put, is it me or is William Shatner not looked right since he got back from space? Which the problem with that tweet is that the original Halloween mask is actually based on a William Shatner mask.

00:09:50 - 00:09:54 | Speaker 1:

Oh, right, right, right. I just saw that. And I knew that in the back of my head.

00:09:54 - 00:10:00 | Speaker 2:

So I was like, that really just kind of – that torpedoes this joke because –

00:10:00 - 00:11:22 | Speaker 1:

It is William Shatner, and people are going to start jumping in the comments going, well, actually, and they're going to link to the lengthy internet discussion on how it was that a William Shatner mask became the thing they used in the Halloween films for Michael Myers. Then I went down this other rabbit hole of, are they making the Michael Myers mask? Is Michael Myers gaining weight in the mask department? department i mean i i don't think i've ever seen a halloween film like part of part of this you know franchise but my guess is the same you know bad guy keeps coming back like freddy kruger or i should say more like jason from friday the 13th he wasn't gaining weight in the hockey mask like the mask of jason in whatever halloween they're up to now to my mind should be the same mask he was wearing in the first one right yeah like you don't put on weight in a mask that you're wearing that is not a part of your physical body so then i was like is this actually a picture of william shatner that somebody has like is it really william shatner because then i looked at the eyes and it looked almost photoshopped like they had just sort of tried to put flesh color like they had made they'd taken william shatner's actual head they had made it white so it looked like the jason mask and then they had made the eyes look like they were peeping out from behind to jason mess so this is why we dialed up late today andrew because i spent a lot of time in

00:11:22 - 00:12:27 | Speaker 2:

this universe this morning is there a chance and i'm not familiar with this universe either genevieve had me watch the very first halloween like years and years and years ago actually we tried to start a tradition when we were first dating to watch halloween style movies around christmas time i think or was it vice versa no no yeah no yeah it was like we so because i i was so unfamiliar i'm not really into horror movies and genevieve was like what you haven't seen like these classic films so went through a little face um so i saw the first one i don't remember i get them all confused hockey mask jason one of them is really the mom i don't know spoiler sorry i don't know but it's all confusing to me um but i am seeing a headline here from the hollywood reporter that says i'm just about to make things so much more complicated but the um uh headline says how halloween kills that's the name of the movie how halloween kills doesn't overkill the michael myers unmasking is there a chance that that was the mask beneath the mask that we were seeing there's no chance that that was we've killed whatever joke ramon had so bad right we

00:12:27 - 00:13:51 | Speaker 1:

are feeding this fed horse so bad well right i mean but but the point is i delete more tweets before breakfast than most people actually generate in a week which is i mean the thing that's crazy about how many tweets i delete is when you see the ones that i leave up you're like those ones didn't get deleted i got one where dog the bounty hunter is just making a face it is i wrote like when they don't have splenda at the fancy coffee shop because i saw that picture of dog the bounty hunter and i just was like a i couldn't believe he's still operating he's now down in florida just like getting the lowest absolute lowest rung of media to pay attention to him about the search for this guy brian laundry who is um sort of suspected in the disappearance or now i guess the death sadly of his girlfriend gabby patino this has been this huge story there's a meta story around it of like why are we so obsessed with you know conventionally attractive white women when they go missing but but women of color and and other marginalized groups get less attention i mean it's a lot going on with it and they think this laundry guy may have gone into these swamps and so dog the bounty hunter has taken to just driving around outside the swamp waiting for any media come up to him and then literally snarling into the camera that he's going to get brian laundry and then seeing if anyone will print it um and apparently the son the uk son decided to print it i saw the photo and it just was so ridiculous to me that i felt

00:13:51 - 00:15:09 | Speaker 2:

like i needed to share it with my friends on twitter you know i got burned by did i get burnt or burned i got burned right something is burnt if it got burned right i like it yeah i think so anyway i got burned by you deleting a tweet recently um or i noticed we always burn the ones we love it's true um when it comes to our i hate it i'm so mad at myself for bringing up like i just i don't think i'm at my best when i'm talking about tweets that i've deleted or what's going on in my Twitter life but I was followed by this is so embarrassing to admit I wish I hadn't started the sentence it was one of those it was one of those situations I believe it was Queen Latifah voice let's gather around the good stuff last week I got followed by somebody in the media who I've been following for a long time and then they started following me and I was like oh and then I'm like what are they seeing I know that we've talked about this before same with Instagram will do the same thing probably did the same thing in the facebook days although i'm not sure but when when you see somebody is following you who is not just kind of a rando or somebody you don't know you're like oh what is this person seeing how am i presenting how am i presenting here because you know again i don't i actually really don't spend a lot of time curating or grooming my twitter feed grooming i didn't mean that oh god yeah when did boy grooming

00:15:09 - 00:15:25 | Speaker 1:

took a real turn yeah i mean it just it could have been like you know you could have been just brushing a horse's mane yeah you're one of the most innocent activities on earth but grooming is so loaded it's not good hey dog groomers what the hell are you doing come on um no but

00:15:25 - 00:15:27 | Speaker 2:

And you're just advertising it?

00:15:27 - 00:15:29 | Speaker 1:

You're just putting it on the sign?

00:15:30 - 00:16:04 | Speaker 2:

Disgusting. So anyway, so I was like, so what is this person seeing? And so I scrolled back just to see what my last, I don't know, 10 tweets were or something. And it is kind of sparse. I don't tweet all that often. And I was like, okay, retweet of an article, blah, blah, blah. And then I saw, oh, me replying to a tweet that doesn't exist anymore. Or, no, me retweeting a tweet that doesn't exist anymore with my own furious comments about the Mariners. What was the tweet? It was the day of the trade deadline or the day after the trade deadline. Oh, so it was Kendall Graveman related.

00:16:04 - 00:16:05 | Speaker 1:

It was probably something about Jerry DiPoto.

00:16:06 - 00:17:08 | Speaker 2:

Yes. And, you know, it was the day of the trade because then we were still playing the Astros that night. And this trade was between the Mariners and the Astros. And most Mariners fans thought we had given up our best player to the team we were in the middle of the series with here at home. It was infuriating. You tweeted something about it, and then I replied to how angry I was because also in the radio broadcast leading up to the game that night, as Mariners fans all over this great city and state of ours were furious, they're interviewing, like, the broadcaster of the Astros and talking about how great the trade was for the Astros. And I'm just like, are you trolling me right now, Rick Riz? Like, what? How? What? How? We're angry, and you're interviewing them about how great their trade was? Like, what? So I retweeted your angry tweet. I added my own anger on top of it. And then I'm going back, and I'm like, okay, what do people think of me when they see my tweet line, as they call it? And I'm like, oh, angry Andy retweeting dead tweets just hanging out there, just floating out there. So then I deleted mine. Here's what I would say to you, my friend.

00:17:09 - 00:18:39 | Speaker 1:

Have you ever danced with the devil in the moonlight? If you retweet a triggered tweet from me about a sports event, the chances are roughly 150% I will delete it when I calm down slash sober up. Yeah, no, lesson learned. Like, in this particular case, I feel like, you know, caveat emptor. Yeah. Tweeter beware. Retweeter beware. Well, I learned that the hard way. It's me mad at the Mariners. The thing that I was also doing this morning as I was tidying up the front lawn of my Twitter, that's what they teach you, by the way, in recovery, is you just got to work on your side of the Twitter. Don't get into thinking about what other people are doing. What I also have to do, and I feel a little bad for the nice people that do the social media for Livewire and other things that I work on. but you know when i have like an event coming up like last night and we're you know we want to tell people about it sell some tickets that kind of thing my feed kind of gets pretty pretty jammed up with just rts of like live wire saying guess who's going to be on and things and they had me making videos and all this so i i will you know i try to be pretty good about signal amping all that stuff but then the next morning when it's done and now i'm no longer trying to get people to come to something or be aware of something then i go back and undo the retweets because i'm thinking if somebody shows up to my twitter and all they see is self-promotion they're going to be like uh does this guy even tweet pictures of dog the bounty hunter or is this just livewire

00:18:39 - 00:18:49 | Speaker 2:

retweets that's the most relatable thing you ever said yeah i'm always i mean i obviously i do not have as many or very hardly any things to promote but it comes up i thought you were going to say

00:18:49 - 00:18:55 | Speaker 1:

followers which i was going to say is debatable because you very assiduously got rid of all your

00:18:55 - 00:20:29 | Speaker 2:

eggs I very assiduously did not well this is this is bringing us actually back to some actually work talk here and and I just I just feel like I just keep making this conversation worse but you know that's one thing and I would even like back in the day I'm trying to remember what position I would be in in advising people on social media because now I am like the last person anybody should ask about social media but back when social media was kind of newer and I was kind of younger and more relevant in the workplace and a producer in public radio and I would, you know, kind of say, like, even if you have a Twitter feed for your product as opposed to you personally. So let's say in this case I'm producing that show The Front Porch, right, where I'm best known for my depictions of the tall ships. If I'm producing that and there's a front porch Twitter feed, which there was not, by the way, that would. He may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships. I would say, like, don't have don't turn your feed into nothing but promotion. Like, this is on the show today, this is on the show today, this is on the show today, because who would sign up for that feed? This is what... young Andrew would say like it's like having a TV channel that's nothing but promotions for shows that never happen you know like put some real content in there and then also promote what you're doing now here it is 2021 and we have a Twitter feed for TBTL that was set up long before my time and it has gone very dormant on my watch over the past several months I mean I've never been great at tweeting that's not fair to you though you have it's just like not it's never

00:20:29 - 00:20:38 | Speaker 1:

been established it's supposed to be your job to manage the twitter i'm the one that's hanging out there all day long you know i could i could do a little help sure yeah i mean and yeah i mean

00:20:38 - 00:22:10 | Speaker 2:

i was hoping we're gonna say that i mean that's not i mean do you know the login i can hook you up um but um or maybe i should just change it again just to be sure no but what i was gonna say we're gonna have a bunch of dog the bounty hunter pictures what's going on you're gonna be You're like, ooh, what hath I rocked? Actually, that would be pretty good engagement probably. But anyway, all of that is to say, weirdly, I was on Reddit the other day, and there's still a TBTL space on Reddit, although there's not much happening there. But I got a news alert. Literally, I got a Google News alert that somebody had left a comment in the TBTL subreddit. And so I go and I read it. Hey, Gorgo, what's a toyger? And I see that it's somebody saying, hey, I wish the TBTL would tweet out the show every day because that would be a good way for me to see the show pick that we choose for the website. Because very, very, very few people are going to tbtl.net to check out our show, right? Some are. Lloyd, I see you. I know you. Not Pizza Lloyd. Different Lloyd. But most people just listen to TBTL on their podcatchers or whatever you call them these days, on their apps, and they don't see the show art that we pick out. And the show art could just be something I grabbed from the internet Or a photo of grapes that you sent me the other day But it seems to be of some interest to the listener So I said, you know what, I'll make a commitment I will try every day after I post the show To tweet it out on TBTL's Twitter feed And just say, this is what the show is today And I'm going to try to continue to do that But I do wonder if I'm now just creating the kind of spammy Twitter feed That I've always advised against Will people start unfollowing us?

00:22:10 - 00:22:41 | Speaker 1:

I don't think that's the same thing. No, because here's what I think. You're actually providing the thing. I mean, look, what are the chances that the TBTL feed is going to become one of the number one Twitter accounts if you don't repost the show? If you just put out non-self-promotional content, will it grow to be one of the more influential accounts on Twitter? Unlikely. And that's not a reflection on you or me. It's just the way that the internet works now.

00:22:41 - 00:22:45 | Speaker 2:

Well, it depends on how many photos of Dog the Bounty Hunter we have, I suppose.

00:22:45 - 00:24:06 | Speaker 1:

I actually – you're in luck, my friend. I happen to have just uncovered a trove of Dog the Bounty Hunter photos. But – so in other words, I think of the TBTL account as being sort of mostly a utility, I guess. Like it's a place where, let's say, we're going to ask a question of the listeners or we're going to start soliciting suggestions for the TBTL Winter Games because guess what? They're around the corner. I know. So that's a channel that I think people follow because they're interested in all things TBTL. And if there's a funny joke in there or something from the show that's, I don't know, whatever, something that is content that's not just also saying, hey, here's the link to today's show. Um, that's, that's sort of bonus, but I think the people that are following that Twitter account, presumably most of them are still active tens and it's just a useful way. It's one other way to communicate with them. So I don't think you're creating a spammy, unlikable account. And in fact, when I saw you start doing it the other day, I was pretty stoked about it. I thought, oh, this is a really smart idea. And I smashed the like button because I do think it's just, it's weird how we all are consuming information all the time. And I can see there being some people who, like, kind of like TBTL but also forget to listen to it. And then they see the tweet. They see the show title, which you always come up with really good show titles.

00:24:06 - 00:24:07 | Speaker 2:

No, thanks.

00:24:07 - 00:24:09 | Speaker 1:

I'm trying to remember what the last couple were.

00:24:09 - 00:24:18 | Speaker 2:

I did, like, yesterday was kind of basic, but two days ago I was kind of – I can't remember what it was, but I was kind of proud of it. Oh, junk. God Don't Make No Junkets. Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

00:24:18 - 00:25:19 | Speaker 1:

God Don't Make No Junkets had me lulling wherever I was. I won't lie. I chuckled myself. So I'm thinking that if people see that, there's a chance that somebody who's been a one-time client of TBTLs were not calling listeners clients. Now they're the president. Like a one-time TBTL client. What a different world it would be if that would have been the name that took off for the fans of the show. The client. The clientele. Instead of the tens, they just called themselves the clients or the clientele. Oh, I love the clientele, actually. As a plural name for an audience, that's great. Shoot. Well, you know, I assume this TBTL thing isn't going to last forever. So when we do our next one, we'll just keep that in our back pocket clients. Anyway, I just think it's good. I think it's useful, and it made me happy when I saw it. So no pressure on you because you're already doing so much work to get this show on the Internet after we've recorded it. But I think that's a good idea. So I'm glad you're doing it.

00:25:19 - 00:26:01 | Speaker 2:

Sorry to get stuck on this one point, but you know what? It should be a musician. There should be a musician, and they should call their audience the clientele, right? Because, like, people have their, like, I'm forgetting them right now. I mean, little monsters. I mean, you can see I've really stayed up to date with these things. But I think Nikki, doesn't Nikki have a – Oh, that's Minaj? No, no, no. She has Barbies, right? Or Nikki's called Barbies. And then, yeah, there's, like, various fan bases, of course. The young ones in the audience know what I'm talking about. I like the idea of having a fan base. Like, if you're a musician, you call them the clientele. God, that'd be good. I was out there meeting clients. I was meeting clients after the show

00:26:01 - 00:26:04 | Speaker 1:

That's like that move where a bar Names itself The Office

00:26:04 - 00:26:07 | Speaker 2:

So you can say I was at The Office

00:26:07 - 00:26:45 | Speaker 1:

Or The Library, there was one of those in Kent for a while Yeah, those are in a lot of colleges I think my first ex-wife Worked at a place In Ames, Iowa that was called The Office Just because we're On Twitter and we refuse to leave this topic I want to just This is sort of apropos of nothing Except that I tweeted it out last night So before we were recording LiveWire We did our sound check, and we had like an hour to kill, and I was feeling a little hungry, and so I went next door to a Thai restaurant that's right next to the Alberta Rose Theater, and I was just sitting there at the kind of bar waiting for my soup, and—

00:26:45 - 00:26:51 | Speaker 2:

So this restaurant serves soup. It doesn't just serve steak, omelet, pasta, or salad?

00:26:55 - 00:28:25 | Speaker 1:

It was weird. The lady could only carry two things at a time. She just kept running back to the kitchen, and then she'd come back out with a coffee and a pasta. I was like, who's ordering coffee and pasta here? Yeah, exactly, and who's ordering an omelet with a lime soda? Anyway, go on. I was just sitting there, and this is now about 645, and the young woman who was working the kind of front area, so her responsibilities were, well, I mean, she appeared to be kind of running the whole place. I mean, there was people cooking in the kitchen, but you had a smattering of people that were sitting there. having some food in, you know, in person, you had a lot of people coming in to pick up food, and then you had the phone ringing incessantly with other orders, and I have never seen somebody who was more efficient at their job. I was watching this woman with absolute amazement. She was performing a task that was so much harder than any job I've ever had in my life. I wrote on Twitter, the hardest job in America, and it's not even close, is handling the cash Register and the phones of a Thai restaurant At 7pm because it was like And then there was this moment where This guy who was next to me ordered Some elaborate iced coffee which I was like Oh no that's that's a four Minute time commitment for this young woman And she is just spinning in Every direction you know calling the orders Back bagging up the food Handling it to the door dashers and the other people Bringing the food out to the you know she was just like In a million places and I was like I wanted to tell the Guy no iced coffee orders Your orders sir is a

00:28:25 - 00:29:26 | Speaker 2:

Ice water. That's it. You want to police it. You're like Genevieve. Genevieve has volunteered at many of the establishments we've been in, starting with Teddy's, but also some lunch places and what have you. Genevieve is offering her services. Nobody has taken her up on this yet to be a vaccine bouncer. Oh, my gosh. Genevieve is so into, you know, into the new law here that in order to be served at an establishment, you have to show your vaccine cards. I don't know. It might actually officially kick in today, but a lot of restaurants – I'm not exactly sure, but I think today or this weekend, but a lot of restaurants had been ramping up to it anyway. And so Genevieve is, like, reminding bartenders or servers. She's like, do you want to check our vax cards? And the woman who was serving us the other day at lunchtime was like, oh, yeah, gee, I forgot I'm supposed to do that. Genevieve was like, I'm happy to, like, just post up at the door if you want me. You're like, no, ma'am. Ma'am, thank you. We got it covered. Thank you. But Genevieve wants to be a vaccine bouncer.

00:29:26 - 00:30:14 | Speaker 1:

It is the bright spot of my day when I enter a place in Portland and they make me show them my vax card and my ID. It literally makes my day. It makes me feel safer. It makes me feel like we live in a world where gravity still exists. I mean, it is honestly, like, the best part of my day. Because I keep forgetting that that's the rule here. So I'm just kind of do-do-do living my life And then I go into the place And then they stop me It was actually happening in Seattle as well You're right because last weekend I was up there And maybe it was not formally the rule but a lot of the establishments that i ended up going to were like can you please show your your your vax card and then your id and that's the biggie is like them cross-referencing it because i've been in some places where they just ask you for your vax card i show them a picture on my phone and they're like that looks good enough and i'm like this could be from the internet

00:30:14 - 00:30:23 | Speaker 2:

yeah i was gonna ask you because i've been using i've been using a photo on my phone too because i'm too worried about taking my vax card out and card out in public and losing it my vax card is

00:30:23 - 00:32:28 | Speaker 1:

is is has seen better days just like the physical structure of it like um becca tried to laminate them for us which was nice but it didn't quite take oh so it's like it didn't hurt the card it just means that i have just been you know carrying that thing around sort of unprotected uh for a while but yeah i just have it on my phone like i think most folks do but it's just i saw this a very bad tweet and i forgot who was responding to it i'm sorry that we can't get off that platform today but i saw a very bad tweet that was somebody doing that thing i i don't know who i have more frustration with the people who are openly anti-mask and anti-vax and anti-science like just aggressively like they're the ones at the school board screaming about you know um you know don't mask my children or whatever it is or i'm a sovereign citizen if it's those people that make me the most frustrated or if it's the people that are just asking questions the people who are like i'm not i i haven't made up my mind on the vaccine or i'm not you know i'm not saying vaccines are bad i'm just asking how you would feel if so somebody wrote i'm not anti-vaccine but i just want to know from people who are vaccinated how does it feel when you show your vax card and you know that it means other people are being turned away there's this incredibly wonderful oh my god so good sex is great but have you tried showing your vax card Knowing that it means people who aren't vaccinated can't come in to that place. Like it I mean, and of course, this is what was happening was the guy was just getting dragged because everybody was saying a version of that. Like that's no, it's a wonderful feeling to know that there's some accountability and that I will be in a place. I mean, last night for Livewire, obviously, it was it was Vax was mandatory. It wasn't even like you have to show a negative COVID test. It was like you better show us a Vax card in your ID. And I was talking to the crowd before the show, and I said, every single person in this building, because it also, of course, applies to the employees, it applies to all of us on the show. I was like, everybody in this building right now is vaccinated. And the giant applause went up. Who was bouncing that, by the way?

00:32:30 - 00:32:40 | Speaker 2:

The people that work for the Alberta Rose. I see. Interesting. And Genevieve. I haven't seen Genevieve for six hours yesterday. I was going to say, I still haven't seen her. I was curious. Okay, that's good. That makes me feel better.

00:32:40 - 00:33:24 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, she was helping out. But, I mean, that's sort of where it's gotten to now. Like, probably the biggest applause line of the night was me saying everyone in this building is vaccinated. Yeah. Yeah. Because we just felt like, oh, good. We're with the same people. This is going to be one night where things are going to be relatively OK. And then and then I I told my joke that I've been working on for 18 months. By 18 months, I mean my jog yesterday. I said, you know, thanks for being vaccinated to the to the audience. I said, thanks for being vaccinated. We're big believers in science here at Livewire. We're big believers in the vaccine, so much so that I've been getting vaccinated every single day since it was approved. And they've been studying me at OHSU, and my blood type is now Pfizer. And that was the reaction that you were giving me.

00:33:24 - 00:33:33 | Speaker 2:

I mean, it's just really hard. Like, when you're setting it up in that way, I don't want to give you a fake laugh. I don't want to give you a fake laugh. No, no, I don't want a fake laugh. Yeah, okay. I just, you know.

00:33:33 - 00:33:41 | Speaker 1:

But what was good was then I was able to say to the crowd, I had 18 months to write that joke, and that's what I came up with. And then they laughed at that, which is kind of was sort of my suspicion going in.

00:33:42 - 00:34:03 | Speaker 2:

But it's also just like, yeah, yeah. I mean, you telling, you know, just being defensive here for a second. Like, you telling me it in this space is a very different experience than, like, being on stage where an audience is there ready to laugh and hear jokes in a way that you and I don't tell jokes on the show. So you're saying it was worse that it bombed in front of them? I doubt it bombed. I'm sure that it was just a slow roll.

00:34:03 - 00:34:42 | Speaker 1:

I wanted to tell this other joke, but it felt too real to me. i wanted to say something like you know we've been nervous about coming back because you know people are like well god what's going to happen it's going to be like a half full theater with people just kind of sitting there you know quietly and i was like i've been doing that version of the show for years yeah right that's your comfort zone this is i've been i've been prepping a lifetime for that but um no actually it was a good turnout and a very enthusiastic crowd we had to change one thing which is in in the you know before the pandemic there was a part of the show where the whole crowd would yell live wire which was always really kind of fun for everybody get everybody hyped uh we um uh we we said let's try to not do that one tonight let's not get three to four

00:34:42 - 00:34:51 | Speaker 2:

hundred people screaming at the top of their lungs yeah and also the audience is probably masked right so yeah kind of a muffled kind of sound too i would assume it was so serious and again i love

00:34:51 - 00:35:48 | Speaker 1:

this about portland i love this about that theater and i'm starting to see this trend too which i appreciate there used to be this giant loop poll on the mask policy which was if you're eating or drinking and it i mean it still kind of exists it's like we wear our masks we show our vax car we wear our masks we go into this restaurant and then we sit down on our table and then we never put our mask back on because we're eating and drinking and the rule at the alberta rose was you cannot drink or eat for a sustained amount of time it's mask on you want to have a sip of your cocktail mask off sip of your cocktail mask on no like i'm taking the mask off until i finish this drink i see people in the airport doing that and it's like for some reason i don't know what the airport bothers me more but it just feels like one of the many weirdnesses about this version of our life is that we have all these rules and everyone's trying to wear these masks or at least they should be but then it's like but if you're having a yoo-hoo go ahead and be unmasked for the next 45 minutes well well it's a big yoo-hoo

00:35:48 - 00:36:46 | Speaker 2:

um yeah i mean this is i i was just thinking about this um two days ago i was starting to get some work done on the newsletter i didn't want to do it here at home so i went and i um was at a coffee shop this is something that i had dreamed about a lot during the pandemic when everything was totally shut down and i could not leave my house i uh during this time i got a new computer if you'll recall luke my last laptop was gargantuan and now i have a much more normal size laptop actually kind of a smaller one and so um i got it during the pandemic because my other one broke And I was thinking, boy, this would be the perfect when things are normal. Again, I can't wait to go to a coffee shop and just post up there and do some work. And a couple of days ago, I was like, I have some work to do. I'm like, hey, I should take advantage of that because the next pandemic could be right around the corner. And I'll say I really wish I'd taken advantage of that. So anyway, so I grabbed my lappy and I head over to the coffee shop around the corner. I would have gone to broadcast. It was closed. It was after two.

00:36:47 - 00:36:56 | Speaker 1:

But anyway, it's going to Philadelphia and it was closed. What is that? That's a W.C. Fields joke he used to make. I went to Philadelphia, and it was closed.

00:36:56 - 00:36:59 | Speaker 2:

See, that's a good joke. Why didn't you start LiveWire in the ad list?

00:37:00 - 00:37:02 | Speaker 1:

I'm just doing W.C. Fields material.

00:37:04 - 00:39:01 | Speaker 2:

I'm still a consultant. I'll tell you how to run your LiveWire Twitter feed, how to do jokes at the beginning. Anyway, point is, when I go to work at a coffee shop, I definitely make sure that I'm actively drinking coffee or buying products or whatever. Like I'm not somebody who wants to just get like a very small cup of coffee and then sit there for four hours. Also, I wanted to drink beverages. So I'm there with my bottle of Topo Chico and a giant Americano, like a 20 ounce Americano. And I'm sitting there working and I notice I'm looking around me and there's a few other people on laptops. There's some groups of people, but the two people that I can sort of see in my vision from where I'm sitting, they are there's well, I guess two tables. One table has two people and one table has one person, but they're all intently working on stuff on their individual laptops and they're all masked. And I'm thinking like, oh, like I it's one of those things how you really adapt to what's going on around you. Because if I'm going to Teddy's for a couple of hours and I'm sitting at the bar and I'm ordering beer after beer after beer, I'm not like putting my mask on in between sips. But when I'm at this coffee shop and I see these other people who are there, I would say engaged more in their work than with their beverages, they're all masked up. So then I start to feel like, well, then if this is the it's kind of like when in Rome, you know, it's like, well, if this is what these people feel comfortable with and they were here first, then I better do that, too. So but I'm actively drinking, too. So I started to do that thing where I'm like and I don't I don't do the what they call the chin diaper things. I don't want my masks to get stretched out. I don't have like throwaway masks. once i reuse i like to keep them kind of crisp so um i'm kind of hooking it you know i'm unhooking it from one ear and then you know drinking a little bit and maybe doing some work but every now and then like remember goop i should probably mask up again if i'm not like actively drinking like really doing that thing you're talking about like kind of unmasking sipping and remasking in a way that i don't do if i'm sitting at a restaurant but it was just kind of like well i looked around and i saw what other people were comfortable with and so i adapted yeah i mean i'm

00:39:01 - 00:40:38 | Speaker 1:

For the record, I am not claiming that I am great at this. I have many times since things kind of eased up been at bars or restaurants with friends or by myself, and I'm having a drink and the mask. I'm not doing the mask, drink, mask. The one place I'm very good about it is the airplane because they're – well, first, they're just kind of on it. They're roaming the aisles. Also, I just don't want to be breathing in. I mean in a normal airplane, I don't want to be breathing in everybody else's funk. Yeah. let alone now so the airplane i'm very like it's very much well it's kind of interesting we really need to take a break we're like 40 minutes into the show but another thing about airplanes is they have really the alcohol policy has changed i mean it's come back in some places but it is not like the wild west that it used to be where it was like particularly if you're in the whatever high status mileage thing i'm in they're just slinging you drinks like for for a long time there was just no alcohol on flights during the pandemic and now they've brought it back but sometimes it's only in first class uh so if you know i'm in coach it's like and it's interesting because it's it's it's a you know if i was flying somewhere like after a long day of work and i was gonna like land and then take a lift home that was definitely something i look forward to like having a drink or two kind of as a reward um but now it's like i i i can't i don't even know if i've had alcohol on a flight since the pandemic you know started because i just got out of the habit of it and also i'm wearing a mask so it's just kind of a hassle and then i just start working and then i'm actually concentrating on work or my book i'm reading for probably for livewire and i'm like wow i can really get a lot done on this plane when i'm not getting loaded

00:40:38 - 00:41:00 | Speaker 2:

and wasn't the the the reason a lot of the um the airlines kind of changed their alcohol policies wasn't that kind of a couple of reasons for that it was also because people were being more disruptive because the you know you would have people who were anti-mask or you'd have people like they didn't want to kind of rile people up even more yes i definitely think that was part of

00:41:00 - 00:42:36 | Speaker 1:

the initial thought although what's crazy is uh they've they've looked at it and the number of freak outs that were happening and people being hauled off of planes was completely unchanged by the absence of alcohol in fact it's been going up like turns out people need to take the edge off right you know i'm uh that was one of those things i love to like drag corporations when i think they're doing something that's better for their bottom line but they're cloaking it as you know the environment famously i always bring up the towel uh uh example in the hotels when they're they're trying to tell you to like reuse your towel as opposed to having them wash it and they talk about it being you know because they want to save the ocean and i just think they just don't want to spend as much money on washing a million towels um the alcohol on the airlines i actually kind of respect because i assume that's a decent profit generator oh yeah yeah you know at least and coach like and then also not having it in first class you know people get who are in first class i speak from some experience are very entitled like mostly it's it's either people who are already rich who can be entitled or it's people like me who are not rich but spend so much time in the air that the only slight uh i don't know moment of of grace in the whole thing is when you get upgraded to first class and you get all your little special things exactly the way you want so them taking alcohol away between first class and then not making money on coach I do think they did it because they really thought it's unsafe it's going to make people extra aggro and also it's probably going to endanger our flight staff it's more interaction between the the flight you know crew uh the flight attendants and the people who are sitting in the

00:42:36 - 00:43:06 | Speaker 2:

seats so anyway we're going to take a break now I'm not going to say what I want to say but what I want to ask is um you mentioned entitlement and it reminds me of an interesting conversation that i had with my physical therapist or as a listener pointed out technically my occupational therapist while she was working on my hand yesterday since we're probably not going to get too far into um top stories anyway is there after we take a break 45 minutes into the program after the break can i can i bring up this topic that she brought up with me because i find it somewhat fascinating

00:43:06 - 00:44:28 | Speaker 1:

and also somewhat um teeth gritting yes i like that because you know what honestly the shatner story is what it is and and let's let's i said let's not throw gas on the fire in fact let's So let's throw some water on it. It doesn't matter. And then the Tech Baby Names is really just one interesting detail. So we can do your thing. We can do the Tech Baby Names story and then get to music for your weekend and then hit the road. So, all right, quick break and then back with more of this here TBTL in a moment. all right let's thank some donors of the day these are the people making today's episode possible with their donations each month people like kaylin murray in clinton washington i believe that is on Whidbey Island. I was wondering if you'd been there. I was at some point fantasizing about moving. I mean, what island in the state of Washington haven't I fantasized about moving to? But Clinton is, if I'm thinking of the same Clinton, it's a charming little town. I think on Whidbey Island. And it's extra charming because it features donor Kaylin Murray. Thanks, Kaylin. Mackenzie Sargent is in Seattle, Washington, another town I've considered moving to frequently. I have to say

00:44:28 - 00:45:38 | Speaker 2:

last weekend oh i just gotta say here i whenever mckenzie's name comes up i've got to shout her out because her and her fam hooked me up with their um their hotel reservations that they no longer needed uh at the thing festival in port townsend oh remember that we kind of booked that show kind of last minute or i wasn't sure if i was going to be staying there and then i decided to but everything was booked up and it was mckenzie who is who remains my hero for providing us with Lodging, yes. Melissa Sturdivant. Is in Toronto, Ontario. So we've got two listeners in Toronto at a min. Yeah. Well, don't forget, Bill moved. Oh, so we've got one listener in Toronto, and it's Melissa Sturdivant. Yeah. Thank you, Missy. Appreciate you donating to the show and being a 10 for all these years. Hunter Bennett Daggett is in Portland, Oregon. Yet another city I've considered moving to. Right before I moved here, I considered it, and then I said, yeah, I should move down here. Hunter. Thanks for keeping TBTL going. Michael Plastina is in Morgantown, West Virginia. Go Mountaineers. It's the University of West Virginia.

00:45:38 - 00:45:48 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, I was sorry. I didn't want to extend it. No, that's okay. I had some Mountaineers gear growing up because I had family who grew up in Wheeling or who lived in Wheeling when I was growing up, I should say.

00:45:48 - 00:46:33 | Speaker 2:

Right. There, I remember There was a basketball This probably literally came up last year When, if we were Thanking Michael or anybody else in Morgantown Or if somehow the subject of the West Virginia Mountaineers came up, they had a guy Who played for their basketball team named Kevin Pitsnoggle Which I just think is Great, it sounds like It sounds fake, it sounds like it's Like out of Harry Potter, like maybe He's kind of, he's hanging out With Draco Malvoy, it's Draco Malvoy And Kevin Pitsnoggle They're from Slytherin and they're bad news Michael's good news We appreciate you donating, Michael And then Jeff Dooley is in Mansfield, Massachusetts Have you ever been through Mansfield, Massachusetts? I know you spent some time in the Boston area because of Veeves

00:46:33 - 00:46:43 | Speaker 3:

I feel like I've been in Mansfield, Ohio But that doesn't apply here There is a Mansfield, Ohio as well Which I have been to But I don't know that I've ever graced Mansfield

00:46:43 - 00:47:06 | Speaker 2:

The town of Mansfield was established in 1775 It's located 40 miles south of Boston and 35 miles north of Providence, Rhode Island. Yeah, I don't think I've been there. Let's see. I'm just trying to figure out the population of Mansfield. Wow, that's crazy. The only person who lives there is Jeff Dooley. Wow, and it mentions him by name when you drive into town.

00:47:06 - 00:47:20 | Speaker 3:

It does on the Wikipedia page. It says, Mansfield, known as the home of TBTL donor Jeff Dooley. There's little signs, you know, and it says, welcome to Mansfield, and it says, population. Jeff Dooley. It says P.O.P. period Jeff Dooley. It's like

00:47:20 - 00:47:41 | Speaker 2:

you know how a lot of those towns will have like home of the 1992 state softball champions. This is just home of Jeff Dooley. That's the one I mean also Jeff runs the town so honestly he put the sign up. He owns the town. Yeah face it. This is Mansfield. Thanks Jeff and thanks to all of our donors of the day for making it possible for this to be our job. We really do appreciate it.

00:47:46 - 00:50:15 | Speaker 3:

Hello, and welcome to Top Story. All right, Andrew. Oh, yeah. Lay it on me. So I get into strange conversations with my physical therapist, and sometimes I do wonder. And I like her a lot. They're interesting conversations. They're weird. You never know where they're going to go. Think about starting a podcast with her. You're going to call the fans the clients? I feel like she actually does. Like, she loves talking. I mean, there's no chance that she or anybody in her office would hear this, right? Like, she loves talking about things that her, like, clients or former clients or patients, I should say, maybe, have said or done. And I'm always like, are you – first of all, what are you saying about me or what will you say about me someday, which that's always a double-edged sword. But I do find it interesting, and she was telling me about some – she said, I had some client who was a well-to-do person, and he had a son who was like maybe like a young man at this point, maybe 19 or maybe early 20s or something. And the client had told her, I always teach my son if he's at a nice restaurant and he really enjoys the meal, that he should ask the server to bring the chef out so he can thank the chef personally. God. And she's like, that's not right, right? I'm like, no, that is like, that's actually a really good podcast. I'm just like that. She's like, and she's like, she's not quite as strident as me and things. And she's just like, she's like, it's just, uh, and I'm like, it's entitlement. And she's like, yeah, that's what it is. It's entitlement. She said that even one time she, she was bringing, he was bringing his son into, uh, for an appointment or something. And then she looks over and, like, I guess this guy is, like, taking, like, the weights off of the wall and, like, kind of, like, messing around with them and riding their exercise bike or something like that, which, you know, it's not a gym. It's a physical therapy office. Like, those are supposed to be, like – and also, I'll say this about my physical therapist. I like her a great deal, but I can also see sometimes I think that she gets on her colleagues' nerves from time to time. She's actually she's like me in a lot of ways, but she's very particular about where things are. Like I've heard a lot of like. A lot of conversations about, like, exactly where the pillows are on various, like, whatever you would call the thing a patient would lay down on. Table. Yeah, I guess a table. Thank you. How do you do that, Luke? You're so good with words.

00:50:16 - 00:50:18 | Speaker 1:

I take ginkgo biloba. Table.

00:50:19 - 00:50:49 | Speaker 3:

What else you got? Bed. Chair. That's a good one. Anyway, that's my story. But she said that this guy kind of was just kind of coming in and just like, well, maybe his son was being looked at or something. I'm not sure. It's just like going around, like kind of picking up weights. I'm just like, oh, my God. She's telling me the story. And that would irritate me or almost anybody. But I'm thinking like that especially irritates you because I know that you do not like people messing with your stuff. That's the end of my story. I tell the end of my story because I mumbled. That's the end of my story.

00:50:49 - 00:52:44 | Speaker 1:

I'm fascinated by this bringing the chef out thing because it reminds me of somebody that I used to sort of have sort of work dealings with, not like at Cairo or any of the radio stations we worked at. Just someone I used to do some sort of like – when I would do side stuff, this would be a person who would be involved and then we sort of became – Carrie and I sort of became friendly with the person and that would be very much the kind of move he would do. Like this stuff that is ostensibly complimentary or showing respect, but that is really just wasting everyone's time and putting the spotlight on yourself in this weird sort of way. So that's exactly what I said to her. The idea of having the chef. I mean, imagine the restaurant is slammed. There's just a line of orders out the door. The chef is expediting or whatever. And then they get called. And I bet you that happens so much. just because, I mean, I hope we have some rich listeners because it's important to keep the show going financially, but rich people are generally, can be pretty insufferable. Not at all times, but can be pretty. I think something really happens to people when they live long enough with a tremendous amount of resources. And I sort of see versions of it. I see, actually, I see both sides of it when I'm like pre-pandemic, when I would host a lot of these charity events. And what's nice is that these people that have a lot of means are showing up to donate some of that money to very worthy causes. So that's a good thing. And some of the folks I've kind of talked to at these events over the years are incredibly self-effacing and nice, and you wouldn't know that they're sitting on a billion dollars. But then there are other ones where you can just tell that getting everything you want whenever you want it for like over 10 years is really kind of corrosive to your sense of reading the room.

00:52:45 - 00:53:52 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, and that's what I told my therapist. I said, you know, I would love to know what this guy's son's reaction was to this because it could go either way. If the son has been ensconced in this kind of wealth and manner his entire life, he might just take that advice to heart and go around doing that and annoying people Or he might be like, oh, God, dad, don't do this again. And I'm hoping it's the latter in the same way that, you know, other dads might like kind of annoy waitstaff at a less fancy place. Right. Exactly. By kind of doing that. The dad, the dad, the getting a little bit too chatty, maybe, which is something that I avoid. I even said that to my therapist. I said, you know, I always avoid, you know, being overly chatty with with waitstaff, generally speaking. And she looked kind of like really taken aback, like, oh, but I mean, they might enjoy it. I'm like, I'm not saying that I'm rude. I'm just saying that I'm not going into these situations assuming that these people want to make small talk with me. Like if they, you know, if they, I will follow the server's lead on these things.

00:53:52 - 00:54:15 | Speaker 1:

Yes, absolutely. This is just a quick story before we do the music for your weekend. I thought this was kind of interesting from The Hustle. How tech is changing baby names. Do you know that since – this is actually from the U.S. census, so these are, like, pretty legit numbers. Since the introduction of Alexa, the incident of people naming their baby Alexa has dropped by 80%.

00:54:15 - 00:54:41 | Speaker 3:

I was talking to some listeners after – I don't know if it was after the picnic. Actually, I think it was after the boat show, Luke, and they had an Alexis in their family, And they were saying that the birth of these Amazon Echoes – is that what they're actually called? Yeah, Echoes, right? Yes. That they are – that it's really wreaked havoc on the way people talk around the house.

00:54:42 - 00:54:59 | Speaker 1:

I wonder if Amazon didn't understand – I mean I guess they want us to sort of – I always have trouble with this. Anthropomorphize. Are we anthropomorphizing the Echo when we're kind of thinking of it as like a human member of the family? I think so, yes. I mean obviously they want us to anthropomorphize it a little bit

00:55:00 - 00:55:15 | Speaker 2:

hence giving it a human name, I guess. But I wonder if they thought about that, just the confusion. Like they could have picked a word that doesn't exist. Sure. Like gorgle. They could have picked a kind of previously meaningless – oh, or – Orlesque.

00:55:15 - 00:55:16 | Speaker 1:

Orlesque. Orlesque.

00:55:17 - 00:55:58 | Speaker 2:

It's actually not the worst. Like Orlesque, what's that cabbage recipe? Right. I mean we make up – companies make up names constantly for these prescription drugs, for their own companies because they just do. And so it's interesting that they didn't go with a made-up word that didn't exist. They just basically carpet-bombed an existing name forever and ever, or at least for the next hundred – not hundred. Let's not get cocky. This technology will all have been replaced in ten years. And also I don't know if this planet is going to exist as we know it in a hundred years. But point being, I mean, they really did a number on that name. And for people who had that name, their life has forever changed.

00:55:59 - 00:56:44 | Speaker 1:

I'm starting to – I mean, sorry if I put the spotlight too much on me right now. But, you know, me just – Hold on. I want to talk about my Twitter feed more. Yeah, me just improv-ing how one talks to their Amazon device there really makes me think I should go to improv class and really develop a career there. What did I say? What is that cabbage recipe? Like, I don't think that I don't think that even I don't think the smart is what is the thing that you lay on when you're at the physical therapist's office? God, I don't know how you know what it's just being is what do they say? Being realistic in imaginary circumstances. Yes, that's right. That's right. You watch that cabbage. Like, what is Gorgel going to do with that?

00:56:46 - 00:58:18 | Speaker 2:

I'm not finding that cabbage recipe. what's kind of interesting is that so you have people not wanting to name their kid the name of the of the echo which i i could almost see a world where just anytime something i guess i was a little surprised that it went down in that anytime something is being discussed a bunch anytime something's visibility sort of rises there usually it seems to be like more people are then engaging with that product like just the number of times that we say that word now or we hear people say that word. It's just going into people's brains, and then people are becoming familiar with it, and then they're starting to develop opinions about it, and then they're having a baby, and they're trying to think of the baby name. I could have seen a world in which it actually went up. Yeah, me too. But it didn't. Names that have gone up, though, are names from Fortnite. Ramirez. I don't play Fortnite, but Ramirez apparently is up 60%. Leviathan? People should Google that one. Leviathan is up 46%, and Bunny is up 30 percent i guess are people naming their kid leviathan is what is the historical or biblical significance of that isn't a leviathan a uh a sea creature from the deep a terrifying creature from the deep i didn't know that okay yeah i think in fact i think james cameron made a movie called leviathan oh no there's that what was that one he famously made a a movie about scary underwater uh stuff i thought it was maybe called leviathan i just can't believe that people I guess maybe you call him Levi or something Yeah, I guess so

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I like Levi, that's a good name

00:58:20 - 00:58:37 | Speaker 2:

Leviathan, it's just funny because you're naming your kid Kraken Essentially Yeah, right, I would actually wait for it Right? Yeah Alright, let's do some music for your weekend Any songs Coming to mind for you on this Friday, my friend?

00:58:37 - 01:00:00 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's hard for me to narrow it down To one There's this musician, you know, I stumbled on him Actually, my friend Nathan sent me like a video of his gosh like five or six years ago his name is old man saxon and i've played it for you oh yeah if you recall and i really played him a while ago and he was so good he's like a hip-hop guy right yeah hip-hop guy he's um not super famous although i was doing a little reading today and i guess he did end up appearing on some netflix hip-hop reality show uh in the past year or two i'm not sure but he's got a new album out um it's called i wasn't even I wasn't even going to tell you the name of this because it's so hard to explain without seeing it spelled out, but it's Rothko's, Chicken, and Waffles. Oh, my God. So clearly a playoff of Rothko's, but this is Rothko's, Chicken, and Waffles. That's genius work. And honestly, the whole album is kind of more introspective and actually kind of kind of got a pretty slow pace to it that I love. It's really good. But I didn't think that that would be the best music to bop into the weekend with. So I'm going to play one track off of this, which is much more kind of old school and kind of, well, actually kind of boppy and upbeat. But it's called Hell Yeah. And I think that you'll like it. But it's also.

01:00:00 - 01:00:09 | Speaker 4:

not representative of the record, which was why I struggled with this a little bit. But take a listen to this. This is Old Man Saxon doing Hell Yeah. Hell Yeah.

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Hell Yeah.

01:00:11 - 01:00:59 | Speaker 1:

Hell Yeah. Hell Yeah. Hell Yeah. Hell Yeah. Hell Yeah. Hell Yeah. Hell Yeah. i'm the game preacher quick to delete ya get away for this greatness that i'm a freak of take a breather pleased to meet ya quite behind just getting sick off of zika he a fool cool but i take you to school mad in the streets mad in the street get out of your seat give the dad that we need you in the back of the lock then who's the cap for this piece me and not minding it waiting on them to diamond it so when these cheapskates break i come sliding in boo boo the food who don't do the shit you do do you want to move but you should cool it for the cool crew

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i got a show to make them booties move like dude dude who he going crazy on this dude too

01:01:04 - 01:01:24 | Speaker 1:

judging by your face i passed the smell test they want to see if i got it i'm like hell yeah found twenty dollars in your pocket damn right hell yeah There you go.

01:01:24 - 01:01:26 | Speaker 4:

Old Man Saxon. That's a great record, too.

01:01:27 - 01:01:31 | Speaker 5:

Oh, my gosh. I love that song. He's a fascinating guy, man.

01:01:31 - 01:01:32 | Speaker 4:

He's a really interesting guy.

01:01:32 - 01:01:42 | Speaker 5:

I was Googling him a little bit. First, I was like, is this dude British? He's from Denver, I guess. But I ended up on Last FM, and they were like, you might also like Michael Christmas.

01:01:43 - 01:01:53 | Speaker 4:

Oh, my gosh. That's so funny, because I was going to say, you could almost hear the tick-tick in the beginning of that, right? So I didn't know that the algorithms were on to me, but, yeah, absolutely.

01:01:54 - 01:03:16 | Speaker 5:

Oh, man, that's really good. I'm going to be listening to that this weekend at the pumpkin patch. I'm just going to be blasting it. I'm going to bring my Bluetooth speaker and just have it on my shoulder and just be, like, in the corn maze. Can I talk to the chef? Can I get whoever designed this corn maze? Can we please see them? This is an amazing corn maze. The song I would like to Play for the listeners By which I mean have you play Andrew From there in Seattle if you can Is actually by a band from here in Portland Called Maita They were the musical guest last night on Livewire And The songs are primarily written by A woman named Maria Her name is Maria Maita And so they use Maita as the name of the band But I hadn't heard Much of their music until this week But now I'm really into it And this song, Honey Have I Lost It All I think is a new single that they actually literally released yesterday And we talk about this a lot when we get into the music for your weekend thing There's just so much of the sound that I was sort of into in like college A kind of a certain, I guess, 90s sound Has come back now In fact, maybe it's come back and gone away and come back again I don't know But it's like there's just something very familiar about this song It's kind of up-tempo and fun And I like it a lot And I like this band, Maita So take a listen to this

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They believe, they believe, oh, they believe, oh, they believe, oh, they believe. Baby, have I lost it? Oh, there was honey dripping in these warm-up-posts. I had a victim, but my tongue was this deterrent towards the sun. I see the same patterns in and everywhere. I have the same digits in the lonely water. I have a ball in the town of folks I hate to know.

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So there you go.

01:04:21 - 01:04:30 | Speaker 4:

Yeah, love that. Maita. Good stuff, right? Yeah, and I know what you mean. Yeah, it feels, sounds like home. You're right. Definitely. Definitely, yeah.

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All right, our listener suggestion this week is from listener Jamie, who says, Hey dummies, I was jamming to this, and it tugged at my heartstrings of growing up listening to sublime and similar bands nightmares on wax pandora station is always on rotation at my house by the way nightmares on wax i love those guys or that guy or whatever robot makes it like i really am a fan of the that music which speaking of sounds like home that was a big thing for me in like the early 2000s listening to uh

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You

01:05:00 - 01:05:15 | Speaker 2:

nightmares on wax did you ever know or get into their stuff no i don't it's kind of at that time when like dj shadow was really active and you know there was all like um what was that dj shadow album that was like i felt like everybody was playing all the time including me oh oh the

01:05:15 - 01:05:21 | Speaker 1:

the double disc yeah i can't yeah i think it was like had like yeah i got into dj shadow actually

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because um there was this amazing documentary about people living in the amtrak tunnels under new york and dj shadow did the soundtrack for it and um introducing it's called yes thank you i

01:05:34 - 01:06:03 | Speaker 1:

had to look it up to be clear but yeah i had man i like wore that album out did you listen to that much you know no i came you know i definitely didn't listen to that when it was new and it was actually our friend dirz who you know i didn't meet dirz until i was well into my 30s and he said oh yeah you don't know this record you should get it so i have that i actually have That physical record somewhere But I never like I didn't go through My real phase with it You know what I mean I listened to it a few times But I didn't live it The way you Ideally live an album

01:06:03 - 01:08:31 | Speaker 2:

Yeah so it's like I feel like I'm never going to With the exception maybe Of Waxahachie St. Cloud I don't know if I'm ever Going to like have another album That impacts me The way that albums Would have The way that albums Impacted me in my Say 20s Because like when I had Introducing by DJ Shadow I mean granted I had a lot of CDs But I didn't have An infinite number So there would be a period of time Where I was just playing it in heavy rotation I was playing it in my car You know, it was like I just got more locked into a particular album Than I am capable of getting now Because there's so many options, you know So like, if you were to hand me So if you were to try to get into introducing now Who knows if it would even You know, make a huge impression on you or whatever Anyway, this is not DJ Shadow This is Nightmares on Wax So this is a song That Jamie is suggesting That says This is the first time I'd heard this particular song by them I thought it would be a good music for your weekend I hope you enjoy So it's by Nightmares on Wax It's called 70s and 80s album It's off the album Mind Elevation I think Circa 2002 And also I don't know how long you're going to let it run But it does get kind of sublime-y At a point My relationship with the band Sublime Is also kind of interesting because I liked them in college a lot, and then they seemed kind of corny to me, and now I sort of have really re-embraced them. I really kind of like them again. There was this amazing piece about the creation of whatever their seminal album was. It wasn't their first album, but it was the one that went big. The story of them recording it in Austin at the place where Willie Nelson had recorded a bunch of music and just kind of the chaos of the band and just the whole craziness around it And then this unexpected hit And then the lead singer Bradley Sadly dying Before the album really went big Sublime was this weird band Where by the time everybody Found out about them They weren't even a band anymore Because the lead singer Had passed away So I've been kind of having A little re-engagement With Sublime And so that's also something There's echoes of that In this song by listener Jamie So that's where we're going to play Some Nightmares on Wax And call it good for this week Thanks for listening everybody Thanks for being part of TBTL We're going to be back here on Monday with another one of these episodes for you. So have a great weekend. Stay safe. Take care of each other. Mask up in between sips. And go Browns. Go Seahawks. Go eat a Bregel. And please remember, no mountain too tall.

01:08:31 - 01:08:37 | Speaker 1:

And good luck to Gino. End all. End all. Mostly Gino.

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We'll be right back. First of all, I'd like to see the chef face to face. These are the best Cajun chicken niblets I've ever had. Power out.

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