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The city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportion. What do you mean, biblical? What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor. Real Wrath of God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies.

Rivers and seas boiling. Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes. The dead rising from the grave. Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria. TBTL. So what I would do is I'd put on Afro-Caribbean paint like a white and black paint and black out my eyes so I looked like this sort of Afro-Caribbean voodoo icon and then I would sew in bits of Egyptian artifacts that were thousands of years old into my costume and gather some onyx or tourmaline or something that was meant to have vibrations and who knows if it works or doesn't and I would walk on the set and then wouldn't speak to anybody, wouldn't say a word so I projected this aura of horror Which created fear in my fellow actors, which then inspired me to believe I really was this character. I'm sorry. I failed you, both as a scary monster and a friend.

Is this for real? It's called the dark web. It's where you can find all the cool stuff. One more vampire joke, and I'm going to walk right back there, go into my coffin, and I'm not coming out, okay?

I don't believe you're seriously considering listening to these men.

All right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

I'm shaking. I am scared. My sister was scared. My brother was scared. It was bad.

Welcome to a Day Before Halloween edition of the program. By the way, my name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host.

I went down the wall and I was scared half to death.

Coming to you for the final time from the Nest Broadcast Center, high in the sky above Portland, Oregon, again here on the day before Halloween. Did I say Thanksgiving earlier? That's not very possible. Oh, my God! I'm going to be honest with you. I am not just a little, but a lot distracted today because I am in the midst of moving. In fact, really, this microphone I'm talking into and this computer that I'm activating sound effects from. I made a huge mistake. These are like two of the last things in this apartment that are not now in a cardboard box. And I'm at that point of the move where I, well, you know what? Here's a little gift from above. This annoying ambulance that's driving by and reminding me of one of the main reasons. I don't know if you can hear that over the music. One of the main reasons I need to move from this place is because I'm on Ambulance Alley. But I am sort of in that moment when you're moving where you just think, was this really the right decision? Like I'm saving some money moving to this new apartment, which I thought was a compelling reason to do this. But all I can think about as I put more and more things in boxes and then schlep them over to the new place is, what if I just cut out eating out or something? What are the other ways, other places in my budget that I could have saved the money and then not had to go through all of this? I don't know. I'll tell you on Monday if it was worth it or not when I come to you from the Hollywood Studios in the heart of Portland, Oregon, which will be the new spot for all of this. Let the fun begin. Today, anyway, we are at episode 3543 in a collector's series. And there is actually so much to talk about out there in the world, including Facebook, creating a new parent company. New face. Who are you facing? called meta drunk people are so meta we've been preparing for this news story for years on this program as fans of all things meta and particularly this audio drunk people are so meta uh we'll talk about what they're actually trying to do to get us into the metaverse uh coming up also uh pita has used the news peg of the world series to encourage people to stop using the term bullpen for where the relief pitchers are waiting. And they want us to call it the Arm Barn.

How funny is that? That's pretty funny.

And I'm completely down for this change. You may be unsurprised to hear. I don't know if we'll have time for this or not, but we're definitely going to get to this story either today or Monday. One of the members of the University of California Santa Barbara Board of Design, these are the folks who help approve and weigh in on new large building projects for UCSB, has resigned over the plans for a massive new megadorm. The megadorm was designed by an amateur architect who is 97 years old and donated $200 million to build this dorm. The money was dependent on them building the dorms exactly to his specification, which the other architects say are terrible.

And are an attempt at social engineering. Social engineering. What is it exactly? And how does it work? And they say it will not work. Anyway, we'll try to get to the story today, but very soon we'll be talking about it because I'm quite fascinated with it. Oh, and it's Friday, so we've got some music for your weekend as well. And we've got this guy, the longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's an activist and house party enthusiast. And he's already got his Halloween costume picked out. The signy guy always works. He's going as the signy guy. He's Andrew Walsh. And he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend.

Before you even ask, let me admit, today is going to be a no-brains day on my side of the microphone as well, Luke. I'm sorry.

Did I say Thanksgiving at the top of the show?

I don't think you said Thanksgiving, but you did say the day before Halloween twice. And it's the day before the day before Halloween. So that's a small correction there. But I'm not one to throw stones. I think that you and I, I mean, you have an excuse. I don't really have an excuse.

Halloween is Sunday.

Halloween is Sunday, the 31st. Oh, that's great.

I have an extra two days to get my costume.

Yeah, what are you going to dress up as? A good brain?

A person who regrets making the decision to move apartments. Dude, I am like, honestly, in just the throes, the throes of second-guessing myself. For all the things that I like to complain about, about the old yard apartment complex here in portland there's nothing like having to put all your stuff in boxes and hire your younger brother dftb and rent a u-haul truck and sign up for a whole new rent portal at the new place etc like all of the hoops that i'm now jumping through as they say on tiktok well if it isn't the

consequences of my decisions what is the worst part like just what is the part that you're kind of like dreading or every time you do it because one thing about moving is it's repetitive right like is it every time you go to look for a parking spot for your u-haul truck outside your current building or the new building if that was every time you do that you're just like god why what is the worst part is it going through stuff in your kitchen here's one of the things that i did

not consider it's a pain moving from an apartment building when you're on like the 21st floor now i've reserved the elevator in this building for later today so for like my couch and the bed oh that's another thing i put this on twitter today you can tell if you follow my twitter timeline right now that i'm in the midst of moving because all my complaints are about moving related things like why do they not sew handles on the side of a mattress like mattresses are impossible to move i know there are some mattresses that have handles but the fact that it's not standard issue is crazy to me excuse me is wild to me um and i as i'm grappling with this mattress uh because i had to take my bed apart because i don't know if the bed will fit through the various doors and out there anyway what i hadn't considered though was let's just say okay i'm let's talk about um my bedroom okay so i have a fan a dyson fan that i love that i use at night to help me fall asleep and i have two end tables two little end tables that go on either side of the bed now for me to get those three items downstairs to the u-haul or if it's a smaller right so i have the u-haul rented for like four hours today that's for the big stuff but for everything else that's smaller that i can basically only carry let's say i can only carry two of those three items at any one time so both end tables right i have to make an entire trip down the elevator and to my car or to the u-haul for that and then come back up like it's not like moving out of a house where i open the front door and i just start i mean i haven't moved out of an apartment like this before in my life that i can remember where each like you can't create a pile

somewhere you can't like create a pile somewhere the elevator you have to take it all the way out

and even if I could create a pile each one of those trips is a trip yeah and it's waiting for the elevator now again I have this window of time I have one hour where one of the elevators is just

mine what does that mean what if I'm a if I'm somebody else in the apartment building trying to get to my apartment I push the button that elevator just won't come for me I think there's

a sign on it I think I have a fob maybe that's the only fob that works for the elevator I don't

know I'll find out today I'm interested in hearing about that on on Monday and then I have the

elevator rented at my new apartment um had that blocked out for two hours so i'll get hopefully everything down into the u-haul and then i'll have another elevator waiting for me see these are the kinds of things that you do when you're 45 and you're moving i also have boxes and the boxes all have like what is in the box written on them i spent about 140 on boxes yesterday at ace andrew and all i could think was this is cutting into the deal that i'm supposedly getting by moving apartment. Yeah. Moving is expensive, even if you're moving to a cheaper place. And that's also you know, it's also expensive for landlords as well. It's like it just it's it makes sense for everybody to stay put when you're a renter. You know, like I always feel like when we are negotiating a potential rent increase or non-increase, as it were, at our current place, we always keep in the back of back of our minds that like if we leave like if they want to raise the rent, I don't know, X dollars per month. and then we say, no, that's too much, we're going to leave, chances are they're going to be losing more than that money than just letting us ride at our current rate because they're going to have to repaint everything. It's not because we've mistreated this place, but any time people have lived in a place for more than a year, in this case it's been like three or four years now, three, it's going to cost them money to get this place in rentable shape again and it's going to cost us all kinds of moving costs as well. So, yeah, that's something to consider. But I'm not trying to – just see, you know – It'll be fine. Moving sucks. I know it will be fine. See where you are when you get over there.

Part of why I decided to do this – well, one, because I have poor impulse control. And I got the letter from the apartment building saying, oh, your lease is almost up. Let's re-sign you. And they were, like, offering me four weeks of free rent, but they were actually also raising my rent. And the parking had doubled. And I was just looking at it and I was like, you know, I also bought this other house that I'm trying to remodel now. And I'm thinking, I don't, you know, I got to try to keep my monthly costs somewhere in the range of the amount of money I make every month. so i was like getting i got this note i got this packet from them and instead of them being like we think it's so awesome that you paid your rent on time every month for 12 months and have made like no trouble for us other than shit talking us on your podcast um which i think low-key some of them if they haven't heard the podcast they definitely know i have a podcast because they'll sometimes say things like oh we're gonna be they'll send me an email we're gonna be working the building we know that you you you do some sort of broadcast from your place and so we're trying to let you know about noise or things like that but i got that packet yeah you know i actually like all the people there thomas is gone i mean that was what if he's at your new place what if

he's gone because he took a job across town it would be that would be amazing and then he'd be

like why is this incredible at that point then we have to become best friends yeah that's the universe telling me so well we've already been worst enemies maybe best maybe best fiends like the relationship that klaus kinski and werner herzog have where we collaborate but we're also very close to killing each other at all times me and thomas that's you yes um anyway i got that packet and i looked at it and i just was sort of like this aggression will not stand i was like you should be you should be offering me like a lot of enticement to stay here because as you said andrew if i leave then you this place is going to sit empty for a month you got to find new people you've got to go jump through all those hoops and i am very like one thing that i've always been pretty cognizant of in my I guess you could say career is like leverage who has leverage on whom like in negotiation that's why I don't have it I well I technically have an agent but I never use them but like it's why I negotiate most of my job things it's why I negotiate most of my side gigs it's why I just I feel like I understand generally what the leverage is and who has it and in this case I felt like well I kind of have the leverage because I'm a tenant that has been paying their rent on time and hasn't made any trouble for you and we're you know i i see signs in the apartment building saying hey refer your friends and so it's like okay i sense that i'm in an advantageous position what i didn't realize was the leverage they have is i have to put all my possessions in boxes now and move them right exactly i did not i did not fully assess the situation to where now i am and it was kind of funny because when i sent i had to send them a noticed this building that i was leaving you know a month in advance or something and i did and i got this almost like very sad email from somebody in the office going oh we're so sorry to hear you're leaving is can you talk about why or is there anything we can do and at this point i'd already signed all the paperwork for the other place so it was kind of like a done deal in the words of suzy b um but i was like gosh i wish i would have maybe just threatened this earlier and then maybe they would have given me more weeks off or something i don't know i just i'm ha i have to remind myself that this is the worst of it it will be okay i'm a little sad too because i like being high in the sky above portland oregon is your new apartment not as high in the sky not nearly no it's on like it's on the fifth floor of a it's a much um smaller building in every sense like it's just physically not as large doesn't have as many residents and it's it's a perfectly nice place i mean it's i'm very privileged to get to live there as well but it's just a different vibe i'm just my new place is just on a little corner it's a corner unit which i like so i've got

kind of windows on both sides. It's very light, but it's, you know, it's kind of right on the street there. You know, it's a sort of a different vibe. I hope it'll be much quieter, which we're going to learn together. Is it better to be on a quieter street, but closer to the street? Or in a very busy area, as I am now, but really far away from the street? I guess we're going to, again, we're going to learn something about acoustics and how sound travels over the course of the next few weeks.

It kind of irks me, by the way, that – see, I've never had to deal with this before. I've been a renter for a very long time now, but I've never dealt with a corporate entity. I've never rented from a corporate entity. I mean, I guess in New Hampshire they were like a business that owned several rental properties, but that would have been the closest. But I didn't have any problems with them. But this whole thing they're doing where it's like, hey, we want to raise your rent X, but then you get four weeks for free, it's like that's a bunch of bullshit. Just say, no, we're raising your rent by a lesser number. You know what I mean? Like we're going to raise your rent by 50 bucks a month. That's expensive. You know, let's say 60 bucks a month. Yeah. We're going to raise your rent by that. But that equals, you know, how I shouldn't be doing even attempting to do math on the air. You know, that equals X amount of money. But we're going to give you a few weeks free. But when you do it, when you calculate it all, it's still just like a rent increase. That's a lesser number. Like stop playing the shell game.

Right. Right. And I will say this because I do need to focus on the positives about the new place I'm moving to so that I will not be so annoyed at at the circumstances that I've created for myself. The new place, even though they also have a management company and a portal and all kinds of, you know, the typical things of a larger apartment building in this day and age, they are way more flexible. I mean they offered – they basically tried to make me a deal on one of the apartments in this place, which I didn't want because it was like on the side of the building that was very close to like the freeway essentially and it was just going to be too noisy and also unsightly. But they were like, yeah, we'll make you an offer. And like they run the parking in this building. So they were like, we'll give you free parking for six months. They just seem – oh, and also I was traveling in New York. Like the actual date that I sort of was obligated to start paying rent and take possession of the new apartment. By the way, welcome to Apartment Talk. I'm your host, Jeff Goldblum. Change your apartment, change your world. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I was in New York, and I was supposed to be giving them money. I was supposed to have insurance on the new apartment. There was 20 things that were supposed to legally happen on a certain day, and I just called them and said, I'm in New York right now. They were like, yeah, just come in on Monday when you're home, and we'll just work it out. That's the vibe that works much better for me, and that is the vibe of this new place that I'm going to. so that's also a positive you know what else I like the recorded voice of the woman in the elevator better

at the new apartment oh I didn't know you had a recorded voice in your current elevator

both of them you know it's a sort of Amazon product style voice the one here is very matter of fact

what is it saying

well it just says the floor she'll say going down like you know when your elevator is going down or like if you hit the 21st floor it's just very But the voice in the new apartment, she goes, like, parking, level one. Like, she's excited that we're at parking level one.

And that's kind of cool. Is the new robot a smoker?

It's Kathleen Turner, actually, romancing the Stone era Kathleen Turner. It's kind of erotic, if I'm going to be totally honest with you.

I like it. No, my old apartment building had Mickey Rourke for some reason. I didn't like it. It just put me on edge.

Barfly era, Mickey Rourke.

I don't know why I said Mickey Rowe.

I really am, though. I kind of and then we can stop after this because everybody's moved. And again, I'm very privileged that I have options. I have a place to live and I'm choosing between two places that are both totally fine to live as I'm remodeling a different place that I want to live at some point. You know, like I get the privilege that's woven into all of this. But I really am having to sort of try to find the little positives so that I can kind of get through this and also just keep my attitude right. Because what I'm really looking forward to is getting all of the – getting the couch and the – I mean it's sad how much the TV train, how much the TV rules everything around me. I guess the V is silent in this version of that. but like once i have like the couch and the television on its stand and it's hooked up and the cable is working and i can like sit on the couch watch a game and like drink a beer like when i moved into this apartment it was during football season and i went on a mad i moved in on like a friday and i went on a mad dash to make sure i had a functioning tv functioning cable a place for the TV to be and something to sit on. so that I could watch the Seahawks on a particular Sunday. And it was literally one of those things where I was like hoisting the – and also I'm moving all of this stuff at the time on my skateboard. That was the thing that I had to move stuff. So I'm wheeling in this like mid-century furniture I had bought at this like place down the street and setting it up and plugging it in like five minutes before kickoff, all so I could have the experience of sitting and watching the Seahawks and like probably drinking a beer or something. So I'm going to I will likely spend this whole weekend doing the same thing in advance of the Jaguars game.

Like when you move into a new place, there always has to be like, even if even if you have a couch, you have to spend at least like six hours sitting on overturned milk crates or boxes. Yes, eating or boxes, eating pizza, like eating subpar pizza. Yes. Right. You just have to. That's part of the experience.

I've told this story on the show before, but honestly, one of my favorite memories with Addie was when I moved to New York and she was like helping me move. And it was that thing where I had an apartment in Park Slope, but it didn't have anything in it yet. I think the stuff was maybe being shipped out or whatever. And it was like we had a couple of chairs and overturned cardboard boxes that some stuff had come in and we were using that as a dining room table. And we had this when she was really little on Friday nights. If I was feeling, you know, culinarily inclined, I would make this just truly unhealthy dinner of this thing, something called noodles and sauce, which is just one of those like boxes of pasta that comes with a powder. And then you throw in a stick of butter and a thing, a half and half. And you've got pasta. I kind of put that in air quotes. And then I would make some grand's biscuits like out of the tube. And then I would steam some broccoli And that was like We would have that every Friday night For like much of her childhood And so anyway We went on this adventure in New York Trying to find at like a bodega The closest thing we could to noodles and sauce And those biscuits and some broccoli And we found, you know, pretty close to it We made the whole thing up And at this point she's like 15 And we're like sitting, you know In this apartment On lawn chairs or whatever Eating this noodles and sauce concoction It was a really fun night, actually.

I call it Rosemary's Babying. That's the only thing I remember about the movie, Rosemary's Babies, I think. Unless I'm confusing it with a different movie.

That's amazing because that is a movie that has much more iconic scenes than the one you're about to describe. Are you sure?

You think? No, that's a movie about moving, right? Yes. Exactly. No, I just, all I remember about that movie.

Everybody remembers that part where George C. Scott comes in and says, does anyone have any bubble wrap?

I just remember that. Oh my gosh, wait a minute. I'm sorry.

These plates are going to rub against each other. We need to put something in between.

I just remember them because that is. Oh, shoot, Andrew. Why would you do this on a no brains day? But who's the main lead in that? Mia Farrow, right? Yes. Look, I got there. I didn't Google. But yeah, I just remember Mia Farrow and her husband, who I don't know who that actor is. It begins with them moving into a brand new place, right? And eating pizza on the floor or eating some sort of food on the wooden floor.

I have never seen the movie Rosemary's Baby, Andrew But it's one of those things So I totally believe you I also could be wrong

No, no, you're absolutely right

It's actually right in the kind of If you look at the description A young couple trying for a baby Move into an aging, ornate apartment building On Central Park West But find themselves surrounded by peculiar neighbors So you couldn't have been more right Rosemary's Baby is one of those Many things in the culture That I have not seen But I feel like I could kind of tell you the story because it's so it's it's cited so often and it's so famous that it's almost like I kind of didn't even have to see it. But I can tell you what happens. She gets possessed or there's something with the baby. And then, you know, is it George C. Scott? Somebody shows up that I don't know. Are you on the IMDb there or no? Let's see. I can do that. I think there's somebody that I like the way those so far you're like, I can tell you what happened.

Like she gets possessed or there's something with the baby. I'm like, well, yeah, that's in the title. It's Rosemary's Baby. You know, I can tell you exactly what happens. It's like there's a baby and like something happens. Yeah, this lady's name Rosemary.

They move into an aging apartment on Central Park West. How could I guess that, Andrew? How could I guess that? And you don't believe in a God.

That's the problem with the movie. Not enough God, I think.

So all of this is to say, tune in Monday, everyone, to hear how it's going. And also to see if I'm able to put this audio situation back together I took a picture of it on my phone I will probably, Andrew, on like Monday morning Be like calling you going, please help me with this I'm going to try to leave everything kind of plugged in And then just put the board into a box kind of sort of as is i've you know now been doing this show as an internet only thing for do you think it's been 10 years now that it's just been a podcast well you would be able to tell

me better but yeah 2011 i mean you were fired in 2010 weren't you i think sooner than that because

i think we started the show in 2008 i think we got fired in 2009 so so yeah um for all those years You'd think I would just know instinctively how to hook this thing up. But every time I move this mixing board, I have to call you and Eric, the Viking Stromstad, and get help.

But that's good because every time you do that, though, you learn more about it. I mean, that's why I always kind of like it. The idea of, like, kind of trying to leave everything just, like, half plugged in, like, gives me agita to think about. I know.

Right when I said that, I was like, oh, God. Don't admit that to Walsh. Because what you would do is you would take everything apart. You would wipe it down.

I'd blow it with compressed air.

Yeah, which is actually kind of a good idea. And then you would like roll it or like, you know, kind of wrap every cord up into a little circle and then maybe put a little Velcro thing to kind of hold it together.

Yeah. And, you know, I mean, that is one thing with equipment like this, certainly, but almost anything like moving in, moving a piece of furniture or equipment or appliance into a new home. And that piece of furniture or equipment or appliance is not clean. That is just like not OK. The idea of, like, let's say, like, you take your – and I'm not trying to give you more stress. You don't care. This won't affect you. But, like, for me, there's no way I'm going to take my microwave and not clean the hell out of the inside of it before I take it into my brand-new apartment, right? Like, I'm not going to plug in a microwave that has splatter inside of it. And I'm certainly not going to, like, take a credenza that still has dust stains where the TV wasn't sitting on it, you know? And so the idea of taking a board over there, which these things collect dust, they're hard to dust because they have all kinds of little knobs that you don't usually want to mess with while they're in operating mode. But if you're just like, okay, we've got to tear this thing down to the pegs, studs? Yeah. Okay, yeah. Pick up in three, two, one. We're going to tear this thing down to the studs. No brain stay. And then you're going to like – then you don't have to worry about the positioning of those knobs. Just dust it all off, blow it off. But anyway, I understand. You don't have the luxury to do that right now.

you just got to get this done yeah i i think it'll be i think it'll be fine um i think like i said on monday i'll probably be in high spirits because uh because everything will i'll be through the sort of worst of it i also have i have like two i don't even have to actually be out of this apartment until november 11th oh that's the other thing it is but you know so that was because again what had to do with like the new apartment and when they were saying you have to start like if not living here at least paying us rent for this place and then when i could when i was my one year was actually up here at this building and there was a couple weeks there that was kind of lag time and i thought well that's actually great because i can just move at my leisure but you know i don't like to actually do that like i just i want to just be in the other apartment i just want it to be set up i want all my pictures to be up on the walls i want my like you know what i mean i just want like everything i just want to be in there i don't want to spend two weeks bringing one box a day from one place to the other and in fact last night i got really obsessive like i i went to ace hardware and i bought what i thought was like more boxes than i needed and i realized that no that was just enough boxes for the kitchen so then i had like they closed at eight so at like 750 i'm like racing over there and i'm buying like 20 more boxes and it's all like i don't know why i mean i have two weeks to do this but i'm just like want to get it all done at once so i can just be it can just be over but i mean but i mean you're

flashing the cash on the boxes remember like moving in our 20s like you oh my gosh spend like go to a liquor store yeah you'd spend like the four weeks leading up to the move just like collecting boxes from around town going to the liquor store going anywhere saying hey do you

have any extra boxes i well so i was thinking about that this this time around because i i i must i mean i've purchased boxes at like you know the u-haul place or whatever but i remember thinking uh this week like yeah that is a big difference of being 45 or at least being in the position i'm in where i have i guess you could say the the the resources to just buy cardboard boxes but also damn they're not cheap it's like five dollars a box for like the bigger box it might even be like 5.99 yeah it keeps up there yeah and and i was like after i like i said after i spent all this money on bucks i was like can i just should i just go to the liquor store and ask them have any free boxes because it is not i guess my thought was like i can't believe i used to spend so much time trying to collect boxes when for a mere twenty dollars i can have all the boxes i need and like no it's not a mere twenty dollars it's like really not very cheap and in this day

and age too we have so many things delivered to our home if we saved those boxes they would come in handy but you never know i mean if you know you have a move coming up then yeah save those boxes But like, you know, Genevieve, it's funny because.

Because I think of myself as the one who doesn't want any clutter around the house. And I'm certainly not one who, like, will, like, kind of stow something away because it might be useful later. I'm the one who thinks it's not going to be useful later. And if it is, then five years from now when we need that tape dispenser, I will spend $4.50 and get a new tape dispenser. Let's not hang on to this thing or what have you. But Genevieve is very anti-saving boxes. And maybe she sees a slippery slope there because things are delivered so much in this economy. me um but like every now and then i'll be like ah this is kind of a perfect box should we hang on to it she's like no for what we'll get another box but like yeah if you were if you saw this coming down the line you'd probably be set for boxes what with your amazon deliveries and what

have you but again you're right i would then be keeping them everywhere what i did think about doing was i still there's still about 10 boxes that i haven't taped up and made into boxes yet I was like, I could just take, you know, five, six boxes over, unpack them, bring the empty boxes back, refill them, get a packet of grain, leave the chicken on one side of the river.

Right, right, right.

But I was like, yeah, I was thinking, okay, maybe I'll do that. And then I was like, this is madness. Just suck it up. That's no good. I already paid the money. Yeah. Let's just get through this, you know?

Yeah, and then the thing, though, the real rub is then at the end of all of this, you're only really renting those boxes except you can't really get any money for them on the back end. You're just going to end up having to – actually, what I usually do is I think U-Hauls will then take – what a deal, right? I mean, listen, we need it. It works. But I usually buy my boxes in a move like this from U-Haul, and then when you're done, you're like, I have all these boxes, and U-Haul is like, you can drop them off here again, and we'll just resell them as used boxes. You're like, yeah, it's a pretty good deal for you guys there.

That's a pretty good racket, Mr. U-Haul. Anyway, all right, enough complaining by me about, like I said, the consequences of my own decision-making.

Is it Maurice Evans? Is that who you're thinking of? Whoever you were saying before is not in Rosemary's Baby. Who were you saying before? Oh, George C. Scott. I'm not seeing George C. Scott in here. Maybe. I've never seen him.

That's another thing. Because I haven't seen The Omen or Rosemary's Baby, I have probably very much conflated those two films And also who's in which film I know that I know George C. Scott plays a priest In some movie about Maybe that's Poltergeist I don't know They all blend together In the category I would call movies Luke was too afraid to see when he was a kid

Here, let me summarize all of them for you Really quickly and then we'll go to break The Omen is about a kid who stands on a roof The Poltergeist is a movie about a TV that has a lot of static, and Rosemary's Baby is about people who move into a new apartment and have to have their first dinner on the floor. Like, that's all you need to know. Enjoy your Halloween

weekend. I love your film criticism, like your turbo film criticism. It stinks! Andrew's turbo film reviews. I love it. Or at least turbo film descriptions. I'll tell you after the

break, because we do need to take one, and I don't want to break my own I made a promise that we go to the break after the break though let me tell you about my plans for this evening because a bunch of people are getting together to watch a scary movie and I have taken an interesting third path on this where I'm trying to maintain some friendships

I was going to ask you about this on the show the other day because I was on the all you know the all friend invite

so you know what I'm going to say I don't know what you're going to say

but I was going to ask you if you were going to go to this thing but I also didn't want to put you on blast So I'm glad you're willing to talk about it. We'll get to it right after this here on TBTL. Let's thank some donors of the day. These are the generous people who are keeping me in cardboard boxes with their monthly donations to American Public Media, who then takes that money and then uses some of it to pay us to do this as our job five days a week. We want to thank Doug Rademacher of St. Louis, Missouri. Louis, home of one of Mick Jagger's more iconic recent photos as he was touring across America standing in front of the St. Louis Arch. Also, Gabriel Rosenketter of Philadelphia, PA. Andrew, I'm moving ever closer to getting to do that story about Gritty. Oh, really? The Philly Fanatic? Because the lawsuit has been settled. Oh, nice. And so it's possible that we may be able to get that story done, which means I will be visiting the city of brotherly love. Maybe I'll run into Gabriel while I'm there.

Wait, that's Philadelphia. Oh, this is Philadelphia. Sorry, I read it as Pittsburgh. I'm sorry. My apologies. I'm sorry. Your Browns fan was like, don't you tell me Pittsburgh is the city of brotherly love.

You know, we had a listener from Pittsburgh that we mentioned yesterday on the show. And I had just been thinking about Pittsburgh lately because I also got into it. I know this has nothing to do with Philadelphia, but we do love you, Gabriel. But I got a note from a listener in a very specific part of Pittsburgh the other day called Squirrel Hill, which I happen to know because Genevieve's grandfather was an English professor at Pitt. and lived in that neighborhood. And there's a little bakery called Prantles, which is known for its almond tort, which Genevieve still talks a lot about. So I'd like to... Squirrel Hill is a cool name for a neighborhood. And Luke, it's the perfect name, man. I mean, it really is. It's like, it's got these cute little streets. It's just like an old, you know, like your kind of like post-war American little neighborhood. It's great. I would live in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is a beautiful city. Also, I love Philly. I've spent less time in Philly, but I love it so much.

I think my thing with Philly is I don't think anyone will hear this, but it's like I the people that I come from in Philly are definitely from the other side of the tracks in Philly. So my whole association with the city of Philadelphia growing up was always, you know, kind of the I guess I'll just say the more rundown side of things. And it wasn't until we started doing like wait, wait in Philly. And I remember one time we were in a like a shuttle van, me and everybody from the show. And we were going out to that place, the man center. And we were going through like we were going along. I don't know which which river it would be. The Delaware, the some river that runs through Philadelphia. and it was just like just gorgeous neighborhoods and like people are out rowing on the river and just like, I was like, oh, this is also part of this city. I had never been over on that side of things and I was struck by how beautiful it was. Anyway, so I think that I think of Philly as just being really gritty, callback. A very, very apt name for their mascot. I think of the grittier side of Philly when I think about it. Then meanwhile, when I've been to Pittsburgh, I've always been staying in a relatively nice hotel, and I have been visiting the parts of Pittsburgh that are kind of, like you said, those old established neighborhoods with the big trees and the porches and stuff, which is just absolutely gorgeous. You know, famously, in my world and on the world of this show, I was in Pittsburgh for a PRPD. You didn't come to that one, did you? I don't think so. But I got into the elevator at the hotel we were staying in and Michael Vick was in the elevator with like two other Steelers. Because I guess even though they, you know, the team is based in Pittsburgh for home games the night before they have everybody stay in this hotel, which was also the hotel where the PR PD happened to be that year. And I get in the elevator and I see that it's Michael Vick, which I was sort of shocked by. And I said something like, do you have a don't you have a game this week? I think it was a Thursday night game, actually. I said, don't you have a game? Somehow I said something to him indicating that I knew he was Michael Vick, and he said, I don't know what you're talking about. And then I thought, did I just sort of address a random black man as being Michael Vick? Like, did I just totally show myself to be kind of low-key racist? And then he laughed and said, I'm just messing with you.

You know, like, I only remember that story as you told it, but I did not remember how it ended. That's funny.

I was so relieved it was actually Michael Vick

Your face, I can imagine your face Your face must have been like a split second Must have told him so much Was he a backup quarterback at that point? I forgot that he was in Pittsburgh

I think so, he was, but I do think he got some snaps I mean, it was after, obviously, he had been to jail Or the dogfighting stuff, he had come back The thing I'll say about Mike Vick Is that it would appear And I don't know the guy other than Once saying one word to him in an elevator But his apologies around what went on with the dogfighting stuff struck me as very sincere, and all accounts are that in the aftermath of that, he has actually done a lot of really meaningful volunteer work and has really worked hard. It seems like he saw the error of his ways. He didn't just kind of go like, well, I got in trouble, and now I'm going to just give the apology I have to give so I can go back to being a pro football man. It seems like he really actually was like, yeah, that was messed up, and I regret that, and I apologize.

You could, and I don't know that I want to or want to get into this, so why would I raise it, but I think you could make the argument that he's the least problematic quarterback in that situation on the team.

Oh, out there in Steeltown? Yeah. Oh, I think you could. I don't think he's on the team anymore. But yeah, during that time, though, yeah. But yeah, so there you go. Okay, good. Thank you, baby. Scavlam is in Chicago, Illinois. What do I want to say about Bears quarterbacks?

Thanks, Nicholas, so much for supporting TBTL. Then we've got Teresa True in Seattle, Washington.

Do they have any quarterbacks there in Seattle?

Not currently. Oh, dear goodness gracious. John Abeving is in Camarillo, California.

Wait, wait, hold on. I need to do something here. Sorry, this is awkward. I'm pulling out my phone. I'm checking something. I think I just got a text message from Jonna. It's pronounced Jonna, right? Can I go with that? Yes, and I did. I got text messages. I was texting with Jonna this morning. She said, I thought I'd share this with you. There's been a lot of Wes Anderson talk lately. My 14-year-old son dressed up for Halloween at school today as Francis, Owen Wilson's character from the movie Darjeeling Limited. he understands that probably none of his peers and likely teachers either will have any idea

what his costume is. Can you send me a picture of that Andrew?

Yes I'm going to send it to you right now because pictures were attached. So what a great quinky dink

Jonna thank you for supporting the program. And then Heidi Clark is in San Anselmo California. San Anselmo California. I feel like I was driving past that place or something recently. Let's see where that is San Anselmo, California Looks like it's maybe near San Rafael Doesn't really help me Which looks like it's in the Oh, no, I wasn't That's north of San Francisco Maybe we were driving past it, Andrew Potentially, we were heading down the coast Maybe we were seeing signs for it anyway Alright, well thank you so much As well for the donation, Heidi Thanks to all of our donors of the day Thanks for making this possible we really do appreciate you hello and welcome to top story people were sending this to me this is great dude i just got the uh photo from you oh yeah nice right solid solid look i love it uh that saw that that that movie also has some really quality kinks songs i think uh this time tomorrow which i don't know how familiar i was with that song before i saw that film but it's just really i'm thinking of them just kind of like rolling down on the darjeeling just broken and busted and listening to um you know or they're not listening to it but it's like what do you call that you're the only one that knows the word for this when you're playing something on the radio in a movie? Oh, diegetic, I think.

I only know because Genevieve uses it a lot and she knows what words mean, as she tells me often. Sometimes she looks at me and she says, which one of us knows what words mean? But yeah, I believe the term you're looking for is diegetic. Anyway,

yeah, I love that film and I love the soundtrack as well. Alright. Oh, I was going to tell you

this weekend thing? I actually just forgot about that.

Yes, you are supposed to tell me that. I'll just tell it

really quick. I don't think it's a super interesting story. I want to hear this. We do get into our friend dynamics on the show from time to time.

Can I set this up from my perspective? Sure. Can I center myself in this story?

Good.

So I saw this text from Rodin to our friend group saying, hey, let's all watch Halloween Kills at my house on Friday night. And everybody was in. And I thought – and everybody seemed excited. They're talking about what food we're going to bring and this and that. And I thought this doesn't seem like Andrew's bag for whatever reason, even though you like everybody involved.

Most people, yeah.

And, you know, even though you did establish yourself as an energetic television viewer the other day, but I just thought, huh, I wonder how Andrew's going to get out of this one. So what ended up happening? What are you going to do? Are you going to go watch the show or not?

Yeah, because I'm not really into scary movies, honestly. I think there was a time when I would watch them just because, hey, I guess I would still maybe go to the theater. If Genevieve really wanted to see this in the theater, I'd probably go with her. but I kind of went from not being super interested in scary movies to actually being scared by scary movies or just like if not scared like I don't think they're not going to give me nightmares but it's like not a super fun experience for me and also I'm not a huge like get to get no matter what the movie is I'm usually not like a huge get together and like watch a movie like you said I just have I have low I have a short attention span you know Genevieve's making some sort of hot spinach dip that's you know I don't need to be in a room with hot spinach dip for two hours for God's sake No offense to Genevieve or her dip But anyway, it's not totally my scene But I do love my friends And it just occurred to me It's weird that we don't Almost everyone on the show has a nickname except for Roden I don't think we should make one up on that I feel like Roden is the kind of last name That's just mine Yeah, that is the name Yeah, right. It is.

the name right your friend's new name is rodent rodent i was listening to the levitard show the other day and um greg cody the old the old kind of dottery guy on the show back in my day yeah and he wasn't even doing it back in my day but he's just like kind of talking like somebody it was one of those moments where they're just trying to keep the needles moving sort of and he like they're sort of they'll get in these moments where they challenge each other like if somebody brings something up that is inherently uninteresting everybody will just kind of shut up and make them tease out whatever they were going to say and so he starts talking about paper airplanes which then goes to he says you ever have one of those balsa wood airplanes and everybody's like all right what do you got on balsa wood airplanes cody like i got something what do you got and so he starts rambling about how he would like you know throw these balsa wood airplanes over the house and then uh sometimes you know they go over the house but otherwise they'd get stuck on the roof you have to get the ladder out but then what he drops which is a just such a beautiful little detail is his friend mike the bag rigs or whatever i'm making up the name but like he knows to use the nickname the bag so then the conversation becomes why why does this kid your neighbor at the time why did you guys call him the bag and it turns out it's because he was a good first baseman but like for me the best part of that story was the bag you know what i mean like he just knows if you have a friend with a nickname like that that's always going to be gold uh the

The thing on Balsa Wood airplanes is they would always break because you would twist the rubber band that was attached to the propeller.

Whoa, you had a propeller one? Whoa, rich kid. Mine didn't have propellers usually. Mine were the gliders that you would just sort of throw and they'd catch the wind.

I had one or I got one, you know, I don't know, for Christmas or something at some point where it had a propeller on it that had a rubber band that you would twist. And that's how you would – who knows if it actually, you know, aerodynamically mattered, but it was cool. But, of course, because I'm a super maximizer, it wasn't enough to just twist the rubber band a few times. I would twist it and twist it and twist it and twist it until it was so torqued up, you know, so I could really, like, I want this thing to fly to Spain. Anyway, then you'd throw it. And the problem was if it hit anything, it just shattered in a million pieces because it's made of balsa wood. Like, for it to be light enough to fly, it also had to be fragile.

Did you ever have the kind without the propeller, though? because I feel like those were the kind that came into my life a lot. They were much more simple, and they would come in a – we got this, man. Why won't they let me on the Levitard show? Do you have to know anything about sports? But they would come in those really flat little plastic bags, and they were so tiny. And then you'd pull – you're like, how is this going to turn into an airplane? And then you put it together. And the ones I had never had a propeller, they were the simple glider kinds. But then they would have these promises. Remember, you'd slip the wings in, the main wings through the center of the body. But then the claim was there was some wiggle room there, right? They were like slide the wings all the way forward in the slot if you wanted to do a loop-de-loop or slide them all the way back if you want it to be a more straight flight. Do you remember this? And I always feel like it was always BS.

I didn't like there being too much play or wiggle room in that center slot because then what would always happen is you'd end up with, let's say, the right side of the wing forward of the left side. like you know so instead of a t you had something where the cross you know the cross member of the t was actually tilting you know going up and down i wanted it to be perfectly perpendicular i wanted it to be a 90 degree angle because that felt more like what an airplane should be but there's too much too much wiggle room in there i just realized andrew what the pot of gold at the end of my moving rainbow is and it is i am going to get all my s moved into this place this weekend and then on Sunday, I'm going to get one of those balsa wood gliders. I'm going to sit out on my little balcony. That's another

thing, by the way. At your old place, right?

At my new house. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Actually, the old place. This place I'm in now would be better because it's really high. But I want the celebration to be attached to my new place because that to me is... You can afford it.

Oh, man. You're right. Take that alone.

I'm going to sit. I want to go out on my... Can listeners please email me? Put music for your weekend in the subject line but have the content of the email be about how I can get a glider loan. Anyway, I want to sit on my new balcony, which is not, believe me, it's not huge, but it's large enough that I can have a chair and my little barbecue, whereas right now the one that I have is only big enough for either a chair or my little barbecue. It cannot have both. And anyway, I want to sit out there. I want to pour myself a little side sipper of Suntory Toki, and I want to throw a glider off the balcony. and, you know, treat myself for a weekend of schlepping. Anyway, back to what you're doing tonight.

Oh, yeah. So here's what I decided I'm going to do. And this was not through any kind of negotiation. It was my idea immediately. As soon as I saw the text message.

Invite come through a couple of weeks ago I told Vives, here's my plan I want to see these folks I'm going to drive you up there Because Roden lives, you know, it's not like We can't just walk or hop on a bus or train So instead of taking Because usually if we're going to do something like that Beers will be involved So we're not going to drive up there and drive back We'd usually take a car, but I said Tell you what I'm going to do I'm going to drive you up there, Genevieve And I'm going to hang out for a little bit Because I'm sure there will be hangout times before the movie starts I don't think everybody's just going to be, like, racing to put on the movie right away. So I'm going to drive up. I'm going to hang out a little bit, chop it up. And then when it's time to watch the movie, I'm going to say sayonara. I will see you all later. And even if Genevieve or whoever else I give a ride up there needs to take a car home later, at least they saved half of an Uber trip.

I think that's a smart – and then are you going to go just have Andy times? Yeah. We don't have to actually literally lay out your night in case people are going to come try to find you.

No, no, I'm going to come home, I'm going to strip down, I'm going to strip down to nothing, I'm going to just the hair, exactly where I was going with that, exactly where I was going with that, so I'll be live streaming that. That could be on your OnlyFans? That's going to be on AwkwardFans, it's a more affordable option. AwkwardFans, is that a show title? Maybe. Anyway, so that's what I'm going to do this week, that's Luke approved, right?

Oh, 100%, I think that's a great move, I think everybody wants to do that. wins i think you get to see folks um yeah i think that's that is i would call that solomonic i would say that that that's a very very isn't there something satisfying too to getting to that solution like whether it's air so i've been running a lot of errands lately because of this move and needing to buy things and schedule things and i feel a lot of agita when i don't feel like I'm doing my errands in a logical fashion like and then when I do it's like tremendously relieving to me like it feels like the universe makes sense if that yeah like if you're mapping it out properly right like when I know that there's a bunch of stuff that needs to be done but I can't put together the proper order the most efficient order of all of it the errand running the packing the this that and the other when it feels like it's all haphazard and I might be like repeating things or making too many trips or doing things in an inefficient way it makes me feel extra anxious but when i feel like i've kind of lined it all up just so it's just like it's very satisfying and i feel like okay now this is this is doable i feel like you've come up with a very elegant solution to this you're going to get to see everyone but you're not going to be stuck there watching the movie vive saves on half of the ubering and you get your anti-time

And Vives and I, I mean, years ago, when apps were still a relatively new thing, she and I, it's driving me bananas. I'm going to try to text her, and I'll circle back at the end of the show. We came up with an app, and we had a clever name for it that we liked. And the whole point of the app was exactly what you're talking about, kind of saying, like, I have one main mission today, but then I have a bunch of small missions around it. And, like, Google Maps sort of does that now, but that's not what it leads with. Google Maps is mostly a straightforward mapping app that now has, like, hey, find near this, you know, I'm going to be in this neighborhood where there's a good Danish restaurant around here. Sure, Danish.

Like from Denmark or where you can get Danish's?

I don't even know why I said that. I honestly don't. So let's just not get stuck on that. So the thing about a Balsa Wood airplane. What do you got on Danish restaurants? I wouldn't survive a minute on that show, Luke Burbank. Anyway, what were we going to call it? Like Dropsy Doodle? No, it had a better, it had a good name. But it was going to be like, okay, listen, my main thing is I'm going to be in this part of town for this errand. But I also have laundry that needs to be laundered or like dry cleaning to drop off. And I know that we're going to have to have lunch while we're in that part of town and whatever. Like an app that specifically optimizes all of your errands in an afternoon.

Yes, R.I.P. Newman. Let's optimize. That's right. It's all about – I feel like I can do anything if I feel like I'm doing it in the optimal way. It's this sort of nagging sense that I am, like, making extra work for myself or I'm doing – I mean, I kind of did – I have already slightly pwned to myself today because I decided to pack up the whole kitchen, which means I packed up the coffee maker and all the stuff. And then I took that all over to the new apartment this morning. So then I got back here, and then I was like, oh, huh, well, so I had to go to a coffee shop to get some of my decaffeinated coffee. And then they didn't have Splenda because the only one I could go to is called Ranger, and it's like this fancy place where they don't have Splenda. So I had Splenda, but it was in the box that's now at the new apartment. So that was not a great feeling. But otherwise, I do think I've. Put together a fairly efficient plan And I'm feeling good about that

Smack dab That was our app Smack dab I'm going to be smack dab in the middle of this situation right here But I have a bunch of other things to do Smack dab

Also an app for finding local drug dealers It is Oh this guy has terrible reviews

Let's find a different plug Wait hold on a second That was Greg Cody's childhood friend's name Smack dab

Don't know how he got it. I had a guy when I was in New York ask me if I was the plug for something. Do you ever see this? We're just getting no closer to the top stories. But do you ever see this? It's a big on TikTok. You know, the plug, as I understand it, I've only seen it being like the person who one would get their drugs from. But sometimes we use the emoji of like an electrical plug. How are you familiar with this terminology?

No. So in other words, if you're if you're because I'm actually watching the wire right now. Are you saying that, like, you give money to one person, but then the person you get the drugs from is called the plug?

I think so, but my understanding of it is it just means the person you get your drugs from. So you go to the plug's house, and you're, like, you know, they're, like, these jokes about, like, or how you talk to the plug or whatever. And I finally figured out over time, oh, the plug means the person that they're getting their drugs from, I guess, right? Oh, I see.

Okay.

But I guess it also more widely in young people terminology just means the person who has the thing or knows about the thing. Because this guy, I was talking to this 23-year-old kid at a bar when I was watching the Browns game, actually. And we were chatting, and we started talking about sports betting. And I was telling him about my little silly sports bets that I do on very unlikely things. And he goes, are you the plug on this? I was like, huh? He goes, yeah, are you the plug? I go, what do you mean? He goes, do you know all about this? Can you tell me how to do this? I was like, well, no, because it's a terrible strategy, and I mostly lose because I'm betting on extreme long shots. But I did appreciate being referred to as the plug It made me feel very relevant to youth culture

Yeah, no kidding That is interesting Yeah, I'm looking this up Now I'm on Urban Dictionary That's never a good place for the conversation to take Yeah, but yeah A person who has everything you need There you go

So maybe I've just seen it associated with drug culture But it could also be any kind of culture

Well, it came from that It says it originated in the South And used to refer to a drug dealer

People have been tweeting People think I'm the plug for all things PETA related now

I was waiting I can hear the wheels I'm like you love a transition I'm hearing the wheels

I of course love saying Thrill two birds with one scone now I think that's where we landed on that Or feed a fed horse And by the way I've got Becca saying that Feed a fed horse like unironically Like it's really – those are PETA terms that they think are less kind of violent towards animals than the traditional ones. Anyway, a lot of people who were tweeting this at me yesterday that PETA put out a press release. You got to – you have to hand it to them for knowing how to make waves, like how to get attention. I mean that's really what PETA's game is. And I tend to think they're on the right side of history personally, even though people like to roll their eyes at PETA. But but they put out a press release that basically said, let's stop calling the bullpen the bullpen and let's call it the arm barn. And I actually think it would be much more fun if we called it the arm barn. Like, oh, my God, are you kidding me? Who are they? Who's warming up in the arm barn right now? Who are they bringing out of the arm barn? It's how quickly, by the way, I forget all of the Mariner relievers. I can't even think of a Mariner reliever off the top of my head. But don't you think Armbarn is more fun than bullpen?

No, I'm willing for you to convince me of this. But I saw this yesterday as well. And I thought, no, that's a bridge too far. I'm sorry. That's a pigeon too far. No, no, it's OK to say that's a bridge too far. You can say bridge too far. You know, I had one. I was emailing or slacking with somebody the other day, I think work related. And I said something about not a lot of meat on those bones. And I actually wished I could have – I know I was slacking because I was typing too quickly because I didn't want to use that phrase meat on those bones. And I'm – by the way, I'm somebody who eats meat, sometimes off of bones. But I like PETA's like kind of like change of language suggestions. But I like it more just from like kind of a fun – it's just a fun, frivolous kind of angle. You know, it's not – for me, it's not like a feeding a fed horse just kind of delights me to say that. I said to somebody the other day, I don't have a Doug on this flight, and then I had to briefly explain it, and then I just kept going. And that one, I believe we came up with, so that's ours. Anybody can use it, though. But Armbar, no, bullpen, I don't know, man. Maybe that's just the baseball. Armbar. Sounds like a place Like a local business that would have Really bad ads on TV Come on down to the arm barn Which I'm into

It gives me a I just picture a barn you open up the barn door And there's a bunch of like just severed Not severed but just like arms Like arm creatures just wiggling around I don't like it

I love it I think it just sounds like It just sounds fun And flirty I would love it Okay, who's – give me the name of one Mariner reliever. Like Mishevitz, right? Mishevitz. Okay, Mishevitz.

But now I'm getting confused. Is it Miskevitz or Mishevitz? See, I picked the wrong one. Anderson, Tyler Anderson. He was a starter. Okay. I know he went that way. Okay.

Anderson is – oh, and Scott Service now on the phone to the armbarn. And they're going to get Anderson up now. This will probably be the last pitcher that Iwakuma – the last hitter that Iwakuma faces because Tyler Anderson is up in the armbarn.

He's warming up in the armbarn. I hate it now. I hate it. Warming up in the arm barn is a terrible phrase. It's just awful. It makes me feel sick. What? Warming up in the arm barn? Warming up in the arm barn.

Oh, it's beautiful. No, it's not. I love it. Don't like it. By the end of next season, it is my goal to have brought you around an arm barn.

I hate that phrase so much.

All right. Let's do a little music for your weekend before we wrap things up. We haven't gotten a chance to talk about this Facebook meta thing, but I have a feeling it'll still be a story on Monday. And I do actually think it's kind of interesting beyond just the fact that we have the ideal audio drop for it, Andrew, and more to the question of do we want to live in the metaverse? Like, I mean, they're trying to get out ahead of this idea that they believe that we will all be living in this kind of extremely integrated virtual world in the next 10 years, and they want to kind of be the leader in that world. And as somebody who spends far too much time on my phone and loves all things kind of whiz-bang and technological and stuff that makes my life easier, I don't know if I want to live in the metaverse. So maybe we can talk about that on Monday.

Yeah, congratulations, Zuckerberg. You just invented second life again.

Did you see my tweet, though? No. Did you see he has the exact same hairstyle and looks so much like Mark Davis, the owner of the Las Vegas Raiders. It is eerie to me. I can't believe that nobody has brought. They're both named Mark. They both have the same weird bangs. They look very similar, actually. And I think I wrote in the in the in the metaverse, fathers and sons will be reunited and made whole again. It's like a picture of both of them. I'm like, I'm surprised that no one. I haven't seen anyone else drawing this comparison. They're both guys who are totally out of touch with everybody else on the planet. And they have the same weird hairdo. They're very pale. They just seem like more overlaps than you would expect.

All right. Do you want me to give you a music for one weekend? Because I had one picked out. Oh, you know what I wanted to say earlier? And this doesn't matter at all. But you know how for a while there, I think most of, I think all of last year and maybe most of the pandemic, I was putting together little playlists for myself as I would get obsessed with the song. I would just add it to a playlist and then I would kind of make it a public playlist on Spotify. And they were by month or a couple of months. Right. And in November and December of 2020, I was listening to a lot of songs that were kind of, I think, kind of matched that season. And of course, one of the songs on that playlist was your music for your weekend last week. Always see your face by love. And I remember you asked me, do you know this song? And I think I said, I'm not sure yet. It was one of the songs on my playlist from from last week. I just wanted to mention what an idiot I am, I guess.

Don't do that. Be nice to my friend, Andrew. I am. I didn't even remember you had played a love song, a song by love earlier in the year and had given a kind of interesting explanation of them and the whole thing. So if anybody if anybody needs to take the L on this, it's me.

I'm also, I'm not even sure, that might have been an off-air conversation I had with a listener, so I'm not entirely sure about that. I am also, I was stalling there because I knew that I had picked out a song, but I couldn't remember what it was. But what I'm going to play for you is, because I have now remembered it, I'm going to play for you a song that is not, it's not like a banger this week. We're going to go out with a very gentle, or not go out with, but I will play here a very gentle little song that I feel like matches the season. And, you know, Luke, there's a lot of leaves on the ground now because of the windstorm. I was reading today in the Seattle Times how the windstorm came a little bit too early for these trees. It's not good when the winds come too early because all the leaves are still on the trees and it creates kind of a bad canopy effect and a lot of drag on those trees, which then brings them down on power lines and what have you. But it has been, I hate to say it, and I know you're not like this, but, like, it was, like, pretty heavily raining here yesterday, and I really loved it. And I didn't even, Genevieve said, yeah, you never leave the house. I'm like, I did leave the house. I walked to the train station. I took the train to go get lunch in the U District. Then I came back, and I worked at a coffee shop all afternoon. And then after that, I was like, well, I'll just walk another half a block and go to Teddy's. Like, I was a man, not really on the move yesterday, but I wasn't, like, hiding in my house, enjoying the rain from afar. I was in that shit. But this time of year, walking even through a light rain, kicking leaves, I don't know, man. It's a vibe. And this is one of the songs I vibe with.

I'm into it.

Yeah.

Listen, I'm into fall being here. I was driving around Portland yesterday. And, yeah, you're right. The leaves have changed. I was driving through the Irvington neighborhood, the very beautiful Irvington neighborhood here. kind of echoes of like capitol hill or something just with big old stately homes and just beautiful leaves that were a lot of them were down now on the yards and in the in the sidewalks but still just beautiful like i'm into the vibe yeah and so here's a song that i think

um takes us even deeper into that vibe this is by biaba doobie disappear

Kiss me on my back Tell me all your love and fears Cause the rush of love is gone I'm trying to find out why it disappeared Why it disappeared I looked you in the eyes Don't feel nothing here Cause the feeling of the love I used to have Yeah, that shit's disappeared Yeah, that shit's disappeared Yeah, that shit's disappeared Yeah, that shit's disappeared

Alright, there you go. A little whisper of a song. for this Halloween weekend. That's cool. This whole record, man, it's called Love Worm. I played a song called Apple Cider off this record around this time last year, which is why I think I'm going back to it. This was kind of new to me last year. The record came out in 2019, but I remember getting into this record last year. And so now already just one year later, I'm having those nostalgic connections to this record.

Oh, that's so good. What's that little instrument in the background? I mean, it's almost like it's a xylophone. Yeah. Or it's even one of those kids. Yeah, it might be. You know, like the little kind of kid ones?

Love that little... Yeah, I just really, really love the tone of that.

What's this band called? Shabla-Doo? Shabla-Goo? Oh, man, it's trash.

Except me and Timothy Shabla-Goo. Do you remember who first told us about the Abadooby? Piper. My daughter? Piper.

Piper?

Yes.

My one-time nemesis? Exactly. All right. I painted myself into a King Gizzard-shaped corner this week.

Oh, I forgot.

Because I mentioned – I mean, I overuse the term apropos of nothing on this show, but I mean really apropos of nothing. I brought up King Gizzard and Lizard Wizard on the show the other day, and then I said, well, I'll just make them a music for your weekend selection. So I had to do a bit of a deep dive last night. They are from Australia. uh the band members met while they were studying music um at rmit which i'm guessing is a a college they were studying the music industry at rmit somewhere there in australia and the way that they got the name was that uh they came up with it last minute i think like probably before they had to play a show one of them wanted to name the band gizzard gizzard while somebody else wanted the band to be named after jim morrison's nickname the lizard king none of these are good names by the gizzard gizzard is terrible and also lizard king is terrible but the compromise they struck was king gizzard and the lizard wizard which i would argue is still a pretty bad name

and then i have not i haven't heard this band yet and sometimes good bands have bad names so i'm not trying to this is be disrespectful stop what you're seeing is a bad name yes yeah this is

this is a band that i it's it's a chill

vibe it's so much like king gizzard and lizard wizard sounds like it's gonna be a band that to me sounds like fog hat or something like big just you know rocking guitar and like kind of like 70s guitar rock music or something um or i don't know some frank zappa shit yeah it sounds frank zappa you're right you're right you're right but it's like very but it's it's much more just kind of like vibey so i was trying to find a song uh to play last night and i was also working on a bunch of stuff on my laptop and i just started playing this album i think it's called maybe butterfly 3000 or something it is i'm listening at it this album and um and then before i knew it it was like an hour later and i was still working and i was just vibing no like it's it's very it's it's sort of chill ish music that that it's it feels very like the album really kind of works as a as a whole like each song kind of just plays into the next one a little bit and uh so anyway Yeah, I thought we should play yours from King Gizzard and Wizard Lizard as my music for your weekend selection. We'll be right back.

All right, so that's King Gizzard and Wizard Lizard. I love that I forgot we were doing the show Luke right I did I honestly I'm not even joking I started just kind of staring in the distance and then you just started talking there and you scared the hell out of me I'm not joking

I was just like well that's kind of exactly the experience I had last night yeah this album Butterfly 3000 is the only one of theirs I've now listened to but it was really kind of relaxing and nice and it's just sort of there you don't even notice it's happening but it's pleasant and I was feeling very productive last night and then like I said I looked up and it was 45 minutes later and it was like on track 7 or something

I love it and you know this is good see we're getting back into birds season Luke not the band of birds but the game birds actually aka wingspan now that the weather is kind of crummy outside we are back inside playing our bird board game which is we don't play that during the summer because out you know we go outside and play cards during the summer not a game that has all these intricate little pieces and so now vives and i have just gotten back into the you know sitting around the kitchen table playing this game listening to albums listening to old playlists what have you i could definitely see that making its way into the rotation this weekend i love it yeah give it

a shot there you go uh all right our uh listener selection comes from listener joseph who says ahoy hoy friendos i'd like to recommend deja vu by olivia rodrigo a six-month-old single from the most popular album of the year is hardly a hip new discovery but with all this week's talk of aging and mortality it seemed relevant getting older is challenging but this record is the antidote to nostalgia it helps me appreciate being in my 40s and not my 20s or teens also in the lyrics she sings about uptown girl by billy joel a song that is as old to her as heartbreak hotel would have been for you and me at that age mind blown emoji unicorn emoji best listener Joseph in the Bronx so I thought that was a pretty good a pretty good description of why Joseph wants to play this song I like that he tied it into the theme of the week which is aging and moving ever closer to that sunset of our lives although we've still got a little time to go thankfully anyway that's how we're gonna wrap things up this week so thank you everyone for listening thanks for making TBTL possible we'll be back here on Monday presumably if I can get this whole rig put back together with more imaginary radio. So we'll see you all then. Until then, have a great weekend. Stay safe, take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck too.

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