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#3553 Thumb And Thumber
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3553 Thumb And Thumber

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

November 12, 2021 | 01:18:48 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke goes knocking on doors in his new apartment building on a quest to find a spice. But are his new neighbors ready to meet him like this? He and Andrew also celebrate the 51st anniversary of Oregon's famous whale explosion...and they find out it wasn't the only one.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:15 | Speaker 3:

I'd like you to answer when your name is called. The answer to that question is ho. Not yes, not right, not here, not sir. Any other unacceptable form of reply except the aforementioned ho. Am I understood?

00:00:17 - 00:00:18 | Speaker 4:

Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho.

00:00:19 - 00:00:34 | Speaker 3:

Do I make myself clear, Epstein? Ho. Do I make myself clear, Jerome? Ho, yes. Ho, what? Ho, nothing. You having trouble understanding me, Jerome? Oh, no. I mean, no ho, Sergeant. It's just plain ho.

00:00:35 - 00:00:38 | Speaker 7:

T-B-T-L.

00:00:41 - 00:00:46 | Speaker 4:

Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is?

00:00:46 - 00:00:52 | Speaker 7:

It's Friday. Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend.

00:00:53 - 00:01:00 | Speaker 1:

Happy Friday, sons of bitches. We got another weekend to attend. and we can go out there and pretend like we don't got a job for two whole days.

00:01:00 - 00:01:12 | Speaker 7:

This stuff is so funny, by the way. Did the comic come up with this? Because some of this stuff, I feel like I could see somebody doing their act. Nice software. Boy, you sure don't talk like a machine.

00:01:12 - 00:01:19 | Speaker 2:

We are not ramping down. We're just getting started. Nothing stops this train.

00:01:20 - 00:01:21 | Unknown:

Nothing.

00:01:23 - 00:02:36 | Speaker 6:

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome. To a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Social engineering can take place in person, on email, on the phone, or over the internet. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host. I just want you to be normal, and clearly you're not. Coming to you from the Hollywood Studios here in Portland, Oregon, where, my goodness gracious, I am just looking at a river of water running down the street outside of my apartment. I didn't know you like to get wet, though. We've got flash flooding going on. The odd part is, and this may be the case where you're hearing this right now, if you're in the Pacific Northwest, it's weirdly warm. So it's this odd combo, I guess, of it being kind of unseasonably warm, but extremely wet. Thankfully, we're all inside and enjoying episode 3,553 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. And we're celebrating the 51st anniversary of a very, very bad idea as to how to get a dead whale carcass off of a beach in Florence, Oregon.

00:02:36 - 00:02:42 | Speaker 2:

The humor of the entire situation suddenly gave way to a run for survival as huge chunks of whale blubber fell everywhere.

00:02:43 - 00:03:22 | Speaker 6:

Yes, 51 years ago on this date. Now, I believe we might have celebrated the 50th anniversary of this same event. But I was doing some digging this morning, and I realized that that was not the first time somebody tried to explode a whale on a beach in Oregon with a terrible outcome. It was literally a major disaster. There's apparently a long and rich history of governmental agencies trying to do this on the Oregon coast, and it not going particularly well. So we will dig into the history there a little bit. And then speaking of things that are historically significant, MySpace is back.

00:03:23 - 00:03:24 | Speaker 2:

You face. Who are you facing?

00:03:25 - 00:04:11 | Speaker 6:

Well, kind of. It's called Space Hay. A 19-year-old kid in Europe basically went in. And a person who was young enough that they'd never themselves really used MySpace, I don't believe. But they were able to study some of their elders. You know, people in their 20s and 30s. and put together almost a perfect recreation of MySpace, which you can join if you would like to. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we'll do some music for you weekend because it is a Friday. Speaking of the freaking weekend, this next guy we're about to hear from, the longest-running cobro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships, he gets loose on the weekends. He is ready to really party down.

00:04:11 - 00:04:19 | Speaker 4:

I'm ready to party with the best of them.

00:04:19 - 00:04:33 | Speaker 6:

And by that, I believe he's going to be consolidating some audio files onto different storage devices. Oh, shit. I got to do that. Good morning, my friend. By the way, he's Andrew Walsh. He's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington.

00:04:33 - 00:04:56 | Speaker 5:

I forgot. I do have to do that this weekend. Hi, Luke. Sorry to interrupt you. But yeah. That's right. No. The hard drive on my computer is overflowing with TBTL episodes. I have no room for anything anymore. I need to bounce those over to a hard drive, which I don't quite understand. Somebody's upset with me about that, that that's not a proper form of backing things up. I don't know.

00:04:57 - 00:04:58 | Speaker 6:

Why? Because it's physical?

00:04:59 - 00:05:00 | Unknown:

I don't know.

00:05:00 - 00:05:13 | Speaker 2:

I do know there's some difference. You know, you always have your computers, like the services are always saying, like, hey, do you want to do a backup? And backing up, I guess, is different than just storing something on a hard drive. I mean, I'm sure this person is right.

00:05:14 - 00:05:15 | Speaker 3:

I bet they are.

00:05:15 - 00:05:24 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, but, you know, I'm just going to move it to a hard drive, and I'm going to put the hard drive inside of a safe. I'm going to put the safe inside of a ship, and I'm going to send the ship.

00:05:25 - 00:05:26 | Speaker 3:

Put the ship inside a giant bottle.

00:05:26 - 00:05:35 | Speaker 2:

Exactly. a giant bottle. I'm going to shrink the bottle and I'm going to put it on my shelf. By the way, the weather news, I know

00:05:35 - 00:05:45 | Speaker 3:

it's very rainy. That was a truck backing up. I was proud of how quickly I found that on YouTube. That was actually a decent turnaround time. And it didn't play like an ad for Applebee's before the backing up sound.

00:05:45 - 00:05:49 | Speaker 2:

Although I would have taken an ad for Applebee's. It's a Friday. Get some Applebee's on.

00:05:49 - 00:05:50 | Speaker 3:

We fancy like that, you know.

00:05:50 - 00:06:06 | Speaker 2:

I was reading about the weather, you know, this weekend and how it's like they're calling it you're right it's a pineapple express uh storm again or weather pattern and they're still calling it like a a sky river or what are they calling the

00:06:06 - 00:06:13 | Speaker 3:

river of water in the sky which yeah right really sounds like a kansas lyric yeah right or bob

00:06:13 - 00:06:37 | Speaker 2:

seeger or something but they the the newspaper you know not wanting to be too bleak did say that there will be a period on Saturday between I think like 1 17 p.m. and 2 11 maybe where there might be there might be a slight reprieve in the raid like it has been it has been kind of non-stop

00:06:37 - 00:07:29 | Speaker 3:

yeah and you know I guess that I'll say what everyone says in the Northwest which is well we need it we probably do need it it's probably good that although this is not necessarily I don't know if this is turning into snow or not because of the temperature so this is where we need somebody who actually understands climate better than i do or at least weather better than i do because like if it's if it's raining in seattle but it's or in portland but it's building the snowpack in the mountains that's always seen as a good thing as uncomfortable as it may be for us it's like we got to try to really increase the snowpack because you know there's often droughts going on while there's also too much rain which is hard for me to wrap my tiny pea brain around but if it's this warm if it's a pineapple express then does that mean we're not the the the water is not getting is not staying in the mountains and therefore it's not really doing us any good

00:07:29 - 00:07:54 | Speaker 2:

i have no idea i saw some talk of snow earlier in the week in the higher up areas but i don't know what's good what's not if if a lack of rain for a while can if a deluge do i say deluge funny how do you say that word actually deluge deluge i say deluge deluge if a deluge comes does that really make up for lack of rain or can you get overwhelmed the um i actually right because

00:07:54 - 00:08:07 | Speaker 3:

there's an issue of absorbing the water like flash flood i mean you know if you get a flash flood going on you're not it's not like you're saving up water that you then you'll be able to use come summertime it's like the water the ground can't take any more water and now it's just doing

00:08:07 - 00:08:17 | Speaker 2:

bad things i get a little clip of tape here i hope this works out and not pre-screen it this is from King 5 talking about the dry spell we will have briefly in the afternoon on Saturday.

00:08:18 - 00:08:33 | Speaker 1:

Anything in this general area right in here. Anything below the stereo and on this side of the bicentennial glasses. Anything between the ashtrays and the thimbles. Anything in this three inches

00:08:33 - 00:08:48 | Speaker 2:

right in here. That joke made no sense. Such a long build up. It only made sense to people who are obsessed with the jerk. I think about that scene all the time whenever i'm trying to narrow it on something you've also kind of uh

00:08:48 - 00:09:32 | Speaker 3:

you've infected me with that as well because yeah whenever you're talking about something that's like a needle in a haystack or as the mischief art collab calls it a needle in a needle stack and it's just kind of like oh great there's gonna be there's gonna be about 14 minutes where it's not raining tomorrow right exactly it's below the erasers and it's in this general vicinity it's like that's a great it's pretty it you could say it's sort of sad when that's the update that the local weather people are having to give you know what else is sad andrew the way that we have become totally disconnected from each other uh as a society oh i thought you and i was like man as no i feel i feel as close to you as ever good um maybe it's just me oh sorry i was supposed to

00:09:32 - 00:09:36 | Speaker 2:

reciprocate there sorry you too this is where i have the this is where i have the you know i have

00:09:36 - 00:09:59 | Speaker 3:

the coffee sound effect in my head. Andrew usually jumps in there a little quicker. Andrew usually, Andrew never has a second cup of coffee when he's on after these messages. No, so something happened last night that had me thinking about this. So Becca came over and she's a phenomenal cook, which is a real plus in the girlfriend department, I'm going to tell you.

00:10:00 - 00:11:36 | Speaker 1:

because, uh, I am bad at cooking, but I like to eat. So anyway, she was, she was cooking up some stuff and it was, uh, it was, it was a fun little night. And, but because I just moved here. Oh, and by the way, I, um, I went over to my old apartment yesterday and got the last of everything out of there, which I kept telling myself was going to be, it's like, oh, it's maybe one, it's like one, it's one load of stuff for my Mazda, you know, like, ah, there's a couple things left i'll just grab them and throw them in the car and kind of clean the place up and i don't know what is that going to be an hour well of course it was about five hours of work it's like like you like to say the last mile problem it was like it actually even though moving the large stuff with dftb was physically kind of rigorous it's more just going around and like oh a business card from that real estate agent that i never called or you know what i mean just like random stuff that was in there that didn't there was no natural place to throw it i had to clean out the fridge clean out the the the the freezer and all of that and then just actually get the apartment all clean so I did that yesterday uh it was a really nice feeling to kind of walk out of there for the last time I videotaped it I guess in case this is where my brain is so I'm so suspicious of of of corporations and of like I guess you would say authority figures in my life or potential authority figures because I really cleaned the place up very nice and it looked good in there And I didn't want to get an email in a couple weeks saying that I had, like, left the place a mess and therefore they were going to keep my deposit. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's smart. So I videotaped it. I narrated it walking around the apartment.

00:11:36 - 00:11:43 | Speaker 2:

Did you do a Werner Herzog voice? Here we see. I had swept the floor. That was a great Werner version.

00:11:43 - 00:11:44 | Speaker 1:

Actually, it really wasn't bad.

00:11:44 - 00:11:52 | Speaker 2:

It started off okay, but you could hear it. You could just hear me losing confidence, and I just aborted it because I couldn't go on.

00:11:52 - 00:12:19 | Speaker 1:

I'm going to do something really quick here. I think I can actually maybe make this work on the flight. Oh, dongles, Andrew. Dongles. I was just going to play it directly off my phone. It's not that interesting, but it's me just walking around the apartment narrating, you know, what I'm seeing and, you know, let's see. Playing it off the speaker. The enormity. I'm here to walk through. Forget it. Whatever. This is not going to pay off.

00:12:20 - 00:12:23 | Speaker 2:

How is my Werner Herzog better than that?

00:12:23 - 00:13:33 | Speaker 1:

thanks tim apple if if they if they hadn't eliminated the uh headphone jack on the iphone i could have just plugged my phone into our system and just played what i was going to play which let's be honest wasn't going to be that great but the point of it all is i got all that stuff out of there i got the place all all all taken care of so that was a relief and then i come over to the new place and becca's here and she's she's making some food and we realize i know that there's pepper somewhere in the apartment because i remember putting like a brand new one of those little like it's like a pepper grinder but there you buy them you know in the pepper section of the grocery store which i feel like is kind of a that's a relatively recent update to life i think that reflects us just getting fancier as a people because like when i was a kid maybe if you went to a restaurant or someone's house someone who really took their food seriously they might have a pepper grinder but the pepper that we always had was just in a pepper shaker it might have just been in one of those little like tin kind of rectangular boxes like and then you would go from there to the pepper shaker like i don't remember there being a thing where you could buy a little pepper grinder

00:13:33 - 00:14:09 | Speaker 2:

that was like five dollars or whatever in the section yeah no i same same trajectory for me too in my youth we didn't have those then vives and i started buying the like kind of disposable grinders as you described for salt too i believe um now we just have a pepper grinder so we just refill it with black peppercorns but can i make a suggestion to you and the listeners without derailing your story too much if you are buying the disposable black pepper grinder don't sleep on the peppercorn medley version oh yes you have the plain black peppercorns but then you have the ones that are kind of a various peppercorns in there and that one i don't know it it's uh it

00:14:09 - 00:15:19 | Speaker 1:

pops a little bit more for me when i was in ojai california recently uh doing a tv gig i was filming out at this just incredible piece of property that this guy lives on one of the last maybe the last living person who knows the actual recipe to the original ranch dressing and uh he lived like again i just this this valley that he lived in was incredible but they had pepper pepper trees peppercorn trees it wasn't no well i don't you know it's debatable if his valley was more hidden than the hidden valley outside of santa barbara but he had a peppercorn tree or like a bunch of them these things were huge and i'd never had this before i was like what is this he goes that's like that's a pepper tree and i was like okay i've heard the term pepper tree i've known about like they're like bars called like the pepper tree lounge or whatever it never occurred to me that's a real thing he's like yeah have one i walk over there's a little pink peppercorn i mean there's thousands of them if not millions but i pull one off and i start chewing on it and it was so delicious it was so fresh and it was exactly like one of those little peppercorns that you'd be grinding

00:15:19 - 00:15:28 | Speaker 2:

in that peppercorn medley so is the is it like a bear because i'm looking at photos here is it almost like a berry where inside is the hard little peppercorn or it's just growing as a

00:15:28 - 00:16:51 | Speaker 1:

peppercorn on the tree with no skin it was growing if i remember right it was growing as a peppercorn on the tree like it was in a little cluster of some kind and he may have handed it to me so maybe he took it out of some other kind of protective sheathing but pre-chewed it he chewed the skin that's and by the way that's the secret to ranch dressing you pre-chew all of the herbs and spices no but i i think about that a lot because it was like it was the freshest kind of best flavor of this thing that i already love which is the taste of pepper it was just like you know getting it right from the source and i was like i just it hadn't occurred to me that this was really a thing that was happening in the world anyway um so i i realized last night though that we don't have any pepper and this is an essential ingredient to what becca is cooking or we have it but it's packed somewhere and i'm going crazy i'm like uncle billy in it's a wonderful life uh you know looking for the for the money that he's got the string tied around his finger for or whatever i'm like going through every cab or uh cabinet and cupboard i'm and i cannot find it but it's making me crazy because i remember packing it at some point i remember putting it in a box and becca says why don't you just go ask your neighbor for some black pepper And I was like, let me look for the pepper again. You know what I mean? Yeah.

00:16:51 - 00:16:56 | Speaker 2:

Like, I know you said that I got to chill when you said that, like, uh, go knock on

00:16:56 - 00:17:27 | Speaker 1:

the door of a complete stranger. What is this? The 1970s? Like, we don't do that anymore. Right. Like, and I, I, and yet I remember being a kid and it wasn't, I mean, you grew up kind of out in the country for a lot of your childhood, but where I grew up, it was not unusual for a kid to be sent to someone to the neighbor's house for a cup of sugar for a whatever it was a pretty typical and i i mean i tore this place apart andrew trying to find i considered

00:17:27 - 00:17:33 | Speaker 2:

just driving to the store you're like i will plant a pepper tree and i will fly back to oh

00:17:33 - 00:19:42 | Speaker 1:

come back with a fistful of peppercorns for you like i just wanted to do whatever plan did not involve me knocking on a stranger's door in this apartment building um but i couldn't find it and then i just started to have that thought i was like what i used to do this as a kid i'm going to be respectful i'll be masked i'll stand far away from the door like i gotta meet these people sometime maybe but it just went against everything in me now um which is also strange because i don't think of myself as an anti-social person like i like people and i enjoy interacting with people generally speaking so i i go down the hall too i've met one guy in the elevator named joey who was actually very nice but i don't know which unit he lives in so i was like what which one of these doors looks like a door joey would use because it's just a hallway with you know apartment doors and so i i go and i kind of like i i knock on the one that i think might be joey's which is based on nothing other than a guess and a montage that he had two giant porcelain greyhounds that were very expensive oh he said i didn't know that that that was a that's a plot i feel like there's a friend there's a friend's episode where joey somehow comes into a little bit of money and he's kind of judging up the apartment and one of the things he buys are these statues these like porcelain statues of greyhounds or some kind of dog that's kind of a large but but fast dog and it's like a it's sort of really kind of they're just sort of not that appealing but he spent a bunch of money on him anyway i knock on the door nobody answers and so then i keep kind of going down and then i'm just trying to listen what i'm i'm trying to listen through the doors for the sound of people who won't be annoyed with me knocking on their or if that makes any sense yeah like i wanted to hear people because every once in a while when i'm going to the elevator i will hear people like laughing or a kid's voice like people that seem like they kind of are you know as they say in uh christmas vacation gathering together with kith and kin like i i i wanted to sort of my dream was knock on a door and it someone pulls it open and there's like a party going on in there and they're like and i'm like hey can i borrow some pepper they're like absolutely and they hand me some and it's

00:19:42 - 00:19:57 | Speaker 2:

like i was trying to listen for that or listen for lester holt i would say like if you hear somebody listening if you hear a black avenger is that um oh was he one of the 30 rock black Avengers yes I didn't remember that it just seems always talking to

00:19:57 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 1:

Tracy through the television it just seems like that's

00:19:59 - 00:20:14 | Speaker 2:

a very I don't Is that NBC? It must be. Is it NBC? Like, it just seems like something that, like, you know, if a couple is just sitting down to the NBC nightly news listening to Lester Holt, they're probably willing to give you some pepper without giving too much side eye.

00:20:14 - 00:20:42 | Speaker 1:

So I end up going all the way down my hall, and I have not yet heard any noise that makes me feel optimistic about, like, you know, a kid practicing a piano. that'd be great because it's like that would just mean there's adults there but they have a kid they're obviously like they're investing in this child's future by getting the kid piano lessons like I don't know that just seems like a wholesome environment

00:20:42 - 00:20:44 | Speaker 2:

of course then you knock on that door and then

00:20:44 - 00:20:46 | Speaker 1:

Noah Adams huge

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brooding bruiser of a guy who's just learning how to play piano enters the door wearing those

00:20:53 - 00:20:55 | Speaker 1:

I was working on my Chopin.

00:20:57 - 00:21:06 | Speaker 2:

And he bonks you on top of the head. I was working on my chopping. With a ham fist. So you're doing this. How many doors are you knocking on?

00:21:06 - 00:21:17 | Speaker 1:

I'm not knocking on them. I knocked on the first one that I thought might have been Joey. So I knocked on one of them. And then what I did was I just started walking, listening for what I thought were friendly sounds.

00:21:17 - 00:21:19 | Speaker 2:

That's so much worse.

00:21:19 - 00:23:29 | Speaker 1:

I go all the way down my hall. I haven't heard any friendly sounds. And I then look down the other hallway and I see someone has a wreath outside their door. And I was like, that's going to be a friendly person. That's a person who's inviting someone to knock on their door at 7.45 p.m. on a rainy night in Portland. They put a wreath out. It was like a Halloween wreath. But I just took that as a sign that these people are not deeply antisocial. and so i knock on the door and i hear someone coming and then i can see that someone is looking at me through the eye hole yeah and then i somebody opens the door just a little bit and a woman kind of peeks just like half of her face around and she says hello very suspiciously to go back to it's a wonderful life i don't know if the listeners have watched this film as much as i have But there's a scene where when George Bailey hasn't been born, he goes back to see his mother, who, of course, has had a very bad life because of the lack of George Bailey. And she is so suspicious of him when he goes to her boarding, Ma Bailey's boarding house, I believe. That was slightly the look on the face of this woman, which I don't blame her because there's a random dude knocking on your door of your apartment at night. she kind of looks around and she goes hello and I was like hi I am so sorry I just moved onto this floor and I forgot to bring black pepper is there any black pepper that I could borrow and she kind of looks at me for a second puzzled and then her whole face changes and she kind of processes what I'm asking like I'm not there selling life insurance or asking her to visit my church or something this is a pretty normal luckily she's also about my age if not a bit older so she's I think from the generation when people used to do that and she just kind of like goes oh yeah yeah yeah hold on I'm sorry I was also not sure if she was fully dressed when she first answered the door and I only say that because she was so such as she was answering the door the way that I would be if I were in my underwear and someone knocked on my door like trying to keep my body everything that's not the top of my face hidden behind the

00:23:29 - 00:23:49 | Speaker 2:

door by the way in a way for you I mean because first of all I would never answer the door if I wasn't fully clothed um even if it was genevieve um but uh the first door that you knocked on we'll call it joey's door do you think joey was in there or somebody was in there and they just didn't answer because i don't know that i would necessarily answer i don't well if it was joey

00:23:49 - 00:24:08 | Speaker 1:

he would have answered because he literally said we should grab a drink sometime which i found very neighborly that's like we were in the we were in the elevator and i said we're chit-chatting i said yeah i'm new to the building i said i think we might be like neighbors or something goes oh awesome he goes well he goes i'll i'll drop a um he's like something like i'll drop my number like under your door or something we'll grab a beer i was like oh that was actually i didn't need to go

00:24:08 - 00:24:13 | Speaker 2:

that far joey yeah come on slow down just i don't need i i'm not really i'm honestly not looking for

00:24:13 - 00:25:09 | Speaker 1:

that many new friends i just was mentioning we know but i thought that was actually very nice of him so i don't think if he like looked through the people and and saw it was me i don't think he would have i mean maybe he would have just stayed frozen in his place uh up in his apartment but Anyway, so my neighbor down the hall brings back a very nice pepper grinder, by the way, Medley Andrew. Oh, nice. Had some pink ones in there, all different colors, and was explaining to me how to use it because it was kind of a nice one. So it was loose in the top if you want the larger or whatever. And she put it in a little bowl so that I wouldn't be spilling pepper as I walked down the hall. At this point, she was very fully clothed because she had opened the door and was handing it to me. And she introduced me to her cat. She told me about her cat. think the cat's named gerald and she said it was a kitty i was like oh that's so cute this kitty and she goes ah my daughter got it for me for my birthday it was not the gift i wanted but whatever

00:25:09 - 00:25:14 | Speaker 2:

we're dealing with it that is a that's a bold move and i was like well gerald you know can hear that

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and let's not let's not blame gerald on this one um so anyway i i got the pepper and then we you know uh becca used it and we we ground some of it into a bowl so we would just like have it throughout the meal and throughout the cooking process so i could take it back then i started to wonder how much pepper if you loan someone a pepper grinder how much of the pepper are you expecting them to use is it just like you're thinking a couple of twists like at the restaurant tell me when to stop or I think we I think I brought it back with about 50 percent of the peppercorns in there as it started out with like I wonder if that's poor form oh you know what I

00:25:51 - 00:26:14 | Speaker 2:

misunderstood before I thought because I thought that was a strange move you were saying that she gave you a little bowl to carry the the grinder in in case anything dripped out i thought that she just like ground some out into a bowl for you because she didn't want the hassle of you then having to return it or something which would be a kind of an awkward move um yeah wow that that is a lot of pepper i guess but i mean you know she knew what she was getting well it wasn't like

00:26:14 - 00:26:34 | Speaker 1:

it was a full thing it's not like it wasn't full yeah yeah but we did use a lot of it and then we were i wanted to return the pepper grinder her asap grinder so that was why i was like well why then we just put some in a bowl so we have pepper for the rest of the night and then i will uh take this back but then at the end of all that i realized well we did use a considerable amount

00:26:34 - 00:26:39 | Speaker 2:

of her peppercorn well you'll buy her a new one right you'll drop it off well um maybe or or more

00:26:39 - 00:28:04 | Speaker 1:

likely i'll just need to borrow this pepper grinder again tomorrow night i've got like to-do list go get a pet go get some pepper and you know every night i will as i'm cooking or about to eat something i'll remember that i forgot to do that no you got it no you got to leave a little pepper grinder outside her door that's the code well i am uh you know maybe i will um but i brought the this was kind of interesting to me too i brought the pepper grinder back and i had asked her when i got it from her i said would you like me to knock on your door when i bring it back or would you like me to just place it because her apartment was at the end it's totally at the end of this hallway there's not a lot of other stuff around there i think her pepper grinder would be totally safe sitting by her apartment door in case she just didn't want to have to be worried about me coming and bugging her again or whatever you know and she said no no you can knock that's fine i was like okay thanks so then i brought it back and i knocked and she was super nice and she said thank you so much for bringing it back and my thought was well you i mean i was going to bring it back right like it was a nice thing for her to say but it was almost like unnecessary because i thought of course i'm bringing it back did you were you were not were you worried i was going to steal it but was there any universe in which keeping this pepper grinder was an option because right right what were you expecting yeah but anyway it was it was a very nice interaction and and and we had again we had a nice chat i found out about her cat that she kind of didn't totally want but was dealing with and and um now i now i know her and if i see her in the hall i'll be like hey heather with the with the cat how's it going yeah what's the cat's name again i think it was like gerald

00:28:04 - 00:28:11 | Speaker 2:

it had like an old man name if she ever needs anybody to watch the cat when she's out of town For an evening or something That's on you now

00:28:11 - 00:29:14 | Speaker 1:

I would happily do that In fact I had this I have been having real Strong Dog-turnel Or cat-turnel kind of instincts One of the reasons is because Our friend television's Chris Hayes Just adopted, his family adopted a dog Shadow That is as adorable as a dog can be I think he wrote on Twitter That But Anya, his little one, when they say to Shadow, you're a good girl, you're a special girl, the little three-year-old say, I'm also a special girl, which I think is really cute. But anyway, I've been seeing a lot of people that have, you know, during the pandemic have adopted cats and dogs, and it looks really fun. I just, you know, I don't think my life schedule right now really permits, or it would be not nice to an animal to constantly have someone come watch them, or have them be alone a lot of the time or whatever. But, boy, if someone asked me to babysit Gerald for the night, I would be stoked.

00:29:14 - 00:29:19 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, come on over, Gerald. We'll make some popcorn. We'll want some scary movies. Sounds cozy.

00:29:19 - 00:29:59 | Speaker 1:

If you could bring a pepper grinder because we still don't have one. Yeah, just tie that around the cat's neck. That would be helpful. All right, let's do this. Let's take a quick break, and then when we come back, we've got these top stories. We've got some music for your weekend. And it's going to be a really, really fun time for everyone. So stick around for that. Coming up here on TBTL. All right, let's thank some donors of the day. These people are making the show possible today with their monthly donations.

00:30:00 - 00:30:11 | Speaker 2:

People like Veronique Croteau in Seattle, Washington. I believe she's a neighborhood peep of mine. Or at least her partner used to work at the Whole Foods by my house. Yes.

00:30:11 - 00:30:13 | Speaker 1:

And his name is like Napoleon or something, right?

00:30:14 - 00:30:25 | Speaker 2:

D'Artagnan, I think. D'Artagnan. I'm not giving out too much personal info. But, yeah, no, we met them. I think we met them several times. But we definitely hung out with them at a Mariners game, a TBTL night Mariners game. Yeah.

00:30:26 - 00:30:59 | Speaker 1:

And Veronique and D'Artagnan. That's some real Alexander Dumas-level naming. It's a power couple. It really is. You know who else is a power couple? Nicole and Hudson Hawkins in Jacksonville, Florida. I wonder what it was like being named Hudson Hawkins. If Hudson was alive during the time that Hudson Hawk starring Bruce Willison. Sandra Bernhardt.

00:30:59 - 00:31:01 | Speaker 2:

Is that Sandra Bernhardt in that?

00:31:01 - 00:31:01 | Speaker 1:

Yeah.

00:31:01 - 00:31:04 | Speaker 2:

Oh, God, I haven't seen that since college, but it's so funny.

00:31:04 - 00:31:05 | Speaker 1:

Or Sandra Day O'Connor.

00:31:06 - 00:31:18 | Speaker 2:

You came close to singing something about a rubber tree plant earlier, or at least I thought you did. I thought you were going in that direction. Isn't that the song? Is that the song that they sing? Whoops, there goes another rubber tree.

00:31:19 - 00:31:22 | Speaker 1:

Maybe they also sing, Would you like to swing on a star?

00:31:22 - 00:31:26 | Speaker 2:

No, that's the one. Sorry, I was confusing them. I don't know why I get those songs confused. Very moonbeams in a jar.

00:31:26 - 00:31:30 | Speaker 1:

Very different. Or would you rather be a fish? That's right.

00:31:30 - 00:31:43 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, Genevieve. That was probably the closest we came to breaking up was when I made her watch that movie early. I was just like, come on. It's good. It's campy. Come on. You come to the West Coast. I don't know why I was talking like that.

00:31:44 - 00:31:45 | Speaker 1:

Give her laughs.

00:31:45 - 00:32:13 | Speaker 2:

But, no, she was like that and gummo, man. She will not move on either one of those. I also do wonder if I like Hudson Hawk because it was one of those movies that I was told to like, sort of, you know, like if I were to watch it now, would I still like it? I don't know if I was being intellectually honest. I mean, obviously I would say I would because I would want to, you know, stand my ground in this argument with Genevieve. But I don't know. Is Hudson Hawk good? Does it hold up?

00:32:13 - 00:32:51 | Speaker 1:

I don't know. Well, I should actually like rewatch it because when I watched it, I was in probably middle school and I was obsessed with Die Hard and Peter Williams and I, we, there was a period of time where we rented Die Hard every Friday night for probably like four or five months and we would watch like two or three movies. We would rent a bunch, but Die Hard was always part of the crew. And so we loved Bruce Willis and we would see any Bruce Willis movie after that because we just loved him so much from Die Hard I caught some of Die Hard while I was in a hotel recently and I'm going to be honest with you still very

00:32:51 - 00:32:59 | Speaker 2:

watchable oh yeah I thought you were going to go the opposite way on that like I'm not a big action guy but I mean it is I mean that is a solid movie right

00:32:59 - 00:34:34 | Speaker 1:

it is so good yeah that's what everybody says I mean I was just totally riveted I mean putting aside this kind of manufactured argument about or debate of is it a Christmas movie or not or whatever but just as a film the look of it the acting is really great alan rickman i believe the uh it's bonnie bedelia i think who plays bruce willis's kind of estranged wife and uh her dealing with alan rickman because you know hans gruber is like he's sort of got everyone now under control but she has become the the de facto spokesperson for the nakatomi employees um who who have been uh you know held hostage and he says something like who put you in charge and she said you did when you killed my boss I was like oh that's a good line anyway solid movie but because of that I think we we saw Hudson Hawk I don't I think we rented it probably because we were like Bruce Willis we love him and I think I remember being totally confused by the movie the entire time like having no idea what was going on why people were doing what they were doing yeah but but then again being young enough to where i don't remember until i was in my 20s actually thinking well that was a bad movie about any movie ever yeah because like your standards are low first of all if you get to go to a theater it's like you're just into it because it's just the experience of being in the theater is and do probably with your friends that's the fun of it but then even you know renting a movie like i there was was never a time peter and i were midway through a movie and said well we can't deal with this anymore that's a really good point man i am now

00:34:34 - 00:34:48 | Speaker 2:

thinking like when was the first time i watched a movie and said i don't like this movie because you're right like watching a movie was always a treat as a kid and if you maybe if a certain movie didn't stick with you as much you might just assume that that's because you're a kid

00:34:48 - 00:35:14 | Speaker 1:

you know like as a kid you just like i think that was what i thought about uh hudson hawk was i don't understand the comedy but that's probably because i'm just too young to get it like i didn't hold it against Hudson Hawk. watching far and away as like a young man and like and thinking like oh yeah no that's a great movie that gives me feelings whereas i don't know actually maybe far and away is a good movie i have a feeling it's not isn't that is that where nicole kidman and tom cruise met or was that the race car

00:35:14 - 00:36:23 | Speaker 2:

movie i think it might have been days of thunder okay yeah but um but oh boy far and away let me tell you if you grew up as a conservative christian kid uh the era that i did far and away was big time because it was well because it was um it was a big blockbuster film but it wasn't um sort of overly racy i mean you know there's i think there's like some love scenes between tom cruise and nicole kidman but it wasn't it was it was sort of considered to be a family friendly movie also the soundtrack was by enya um in fact i think enya wrote a song there's a song called far and away by enya that was for the soundtrack for the movie far and away and enya was also actually i could shift shift to any of far and away i'm not even mad at that song if i'm being totally honest like it kind of gets still uh gets to me but like it was far and away was a movie that if you if you went to jesus creek you did if you went and saw it at the theater you didn't have to lie to your parents about the movie that you saw and if you were me you could also have the soundtrack because even though it wasn't christian per se it wasn't like i wouldn't be allowed to have a madonna cd but i could have the far and away soundtrack this is book of days

00:36:24 - 00:36:25 | Speaker 1:

Would this maybe be the song?

00:36:25 - 00:36:45 | Speaker 2:

This is probably... I think she just sings the lyric Far and Away in it. Yeah. But this is it. Oh, my God. I am... You are... They say time travel is not possible, Andrew, because it violates the laws of physics. But you, my friend, have just time traveled me right to eighth grade.

00:36:45 - 00:36:47 | Speaker 1:

Are they making their way west right now on a train?

00:36:49 - 00:37:17 | Speaker 2:

Probably. And then at some point, Tom Cruise is going to do that thing where he has to run out and get his plot of land against everyone else. Yeah, right, right, right. There's another time where he's like punching a dude in the stomach in slow motion in a bar fight. Because he's a boxer, right? Because he's, yeah, he's a real brawler and he's, you know, whatever, the best at it, I think, I assume, probably. It'd be funny if the plot of Far and Away was that Tom Cruise is a boxer who's kind of not good. And he just hasn't gotten the memo.

00:37:17 - 00:37:33 | Speaker 1:

You know Tom Cruise does all his own boxing. I remember, yeah, speaking of it appealing to maybe a more conservative mindset, I remember at one point a woman shows her ankles and the town is scandalized. Or somebody says, cover your ankles on the train.

00:37:33 - 00:37:36 | Speaker 2:

Right. I think that might even be Nicole Kidman's character.

00:37:36 - 00:38:29 | Speaker 1:

I think it might be, yeah. Also, this is a behind-the-scenes thing, and this gets a little bit racy here. But it's my understanding. Do you remember there is a scene where Tom Cruise is, he must, maybe this is after that fight, He's laid out naked on a bed while they're caring for him and giving him some medical treatment. And there's a bowl covering his private area, like a salad bowl or something. And in the scene, Nicole Kidman's character takes a peekaboo at that. And supposedly he's supposed to, in real life, the actor is supposed to have some sort of a cloth or something covering them. But I think they were already a couple at that time. I could be making this up. I don't think I don't think I'm just making this up out of a whole cloth. I had heard that the final take that they used because they wanted her to look kind of, you know, to have a real reaction to it. He removes the cloth and she she lifts the bowl and is legitimately surprised to see what she sees. And that is the take, Luke.

00:38:30 - 00:38:49 | Speaker 2:

That's the and then she snaps the bowl shut like the scene in Pretty Woman when Richard closes the jewelry box on Julia Roberts fingers, which also is apparently an ad libbed thing. Oh, really? Yeah, and that was why her reaction is the way it was Because she Was not in the script that Richard Gere's character Is supposed to snap that thing closed

00:38:49 - 00:38:55 | Speaker 1:

She goes, oh, yeah, that's my imitation of that That's a good, that's a decent Julia Roberts I appreciate it, I've been working on it

00:38:55 - 00:39:38 | Speaker 2:

Let's let that Orenco flow, my friend That's also a song by Enya As we thank Cindy Wilcox Who's in Aurora, New York Ah, you got me, you button hooked me, Cindy I was looking for Aurora, Illinois Or even Aurora, Colorado So we got Aurora, New York. Gabrielle Hung is in New London, Connecticut. Oh, there's a new London. Please. Tired, old London. Wired, New London, where Gabrielle Hung lives. Sarah Connors is in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. This is interesting because we have Hudson Hawk ends. And then we have Sarah Connors, which I believe is the name of one of the sort of important people in the Terminator film.

00:39:38 - 00:39:42 | Speaker 1:

She might be Sarah Connors. Is she Sarah Connor or Connor?

00:39:42 - 00:39:49 | Speaker 2:

Oh, Sarah Connor in the film. I think you're absolutely right. Maybe, yeah. What about Sarah Connors from the sitcom The Connors Hold the Roseanne?

00:39:50 - 00:39:55 | Speaker 1:

Oh, that's right. Now, that's not still going now, is it? Yeah, it is. It is, huh?

00:39:55 - 00:39:59 | Speaker 2:

I mean, I don't watch very much network television. I only work on it, so why would I monitor?

00:40:00 - 00:40:13 | Speaker 1:

any of it but uh they came back they had their big season you know debut uh i don't know a little while ago so unless it's been canceled i think it's kind of a thing john goodman's career is

00:40:13 - 00:40:43 | Speaker 2:

an enigma just that i mean he's so because that's still him right he would still be yeah the main character i assume and like you know he is a he's he's an a-list hollywood actor but also like is known to a whole generation as playing a husband on an ABC sitcom I'm assuming ABC um where's Lester Holt in all of this anyway yeah it's just it's really interesting that he's got you know just full steam ahead on two different tracks well and then so he's so I mean he's so good

00:40:43 - 00:41:16 | Speaker 1:

in the Coen brothers movies I mean he is so incredible in Lebowski and he's also really incredible in Brain Donors. In Brain Donors. Well, that one as well, but Barton Fink. But no, the Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? I'm a man of considerable appetite. Like, he's just like, he's so great. And then, yeah, of course, he has this huge career on network television doing a sitcom. And then sometimes he just shows up on TV as the face that's on a thumb that's on some gambling app.

00:41:16 - 00:41:22 | Speaker 2:

The most upsetting commercial literally ever made in the history of disturbing commercials.

00:41:22 - 00:41:27 | Speaker 1:

Did he lose money to this gambling concern, and this is how he squared it?

00:41:27 - 00:41:34 | Speaker 2:

They say either we take your thumb or your thumb stars in this commercial. It is so upsetting.

00:41:35 - 00:41:58 | Speaker 1:

And it's like, I don't think John Goodman, I don't think he needs the money. I just think he's one of those actors who is just not overly precious about what he does. But he also doesn't do a lot of schlock that I can think of. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like I feel like he's he's usually in pretty good movies and he's just an exceptional actor. But then he's just a thumb hawking a gambling app.

00:41:59 - 00:42:24 | Speaker 2:

I like to think that he just thought it was funny. Now, listen, yes, that's probably exactly what happened. There's no point in us looking it up and playing it for the listeners because it'll just sound like John Goodman talking. But the visuals are worth checking out. Like, if you are holding your smartphone right now or if you are, well, maybe when you're done listening to this episode of TBTL, just Google John Goodman Thumb Commercial and buckle up. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

00:42:25 - 00:42:51 | Speaker 1:

It's quite something. We also have to thank Sarah Narper-Bajulian in New York, New York, for supporting the program. Thank you. Thank you. Sarah, thanks to the other Sarah. Thanks to Gabrielle. Thanks to Cindy. Thanks to Hudson Hawkins and Nicole. And, of course, to Veronique And, kind of in a distant way, D'Artagnan Just for being a solid dude So, thanks to all of our donors for making today's episode possible We really do appreciate you

00:42:51 - 00:42:59 | Speaker 2:

Hello, and welcome to Top Story

00:42:59 - 00:44:48 | Speaker 1:

You know what happened to me this morning, Andrew? That was kind of weird So, I put, my phone was sitting on the I was, like, brushing my teeth and stuff And my phone was just sitting on the counter in the bathroom here And there was nothing happening on the phone And all of a sudden audio starts playing Like a video from I don't know if it was Instagram or Twitter or something Some video started auto-playing And then all of a sudden the screens were popping off on my phone It was kind of like It was like a screen would come up Like let's say it would be Twitter Then it would go away And then something else would come up And it was like It happened just like two or three times very quickly I was like, well, that was strange. And then I look at Twitter and my phone has auto tweeted a photo from my library to Twitter. It was a picture of one of the rooms in my old apartment that I had taken to prove that I did not destroy the apartment. So it was pretty innocuous. And I just deleted it because it made no sense. there was like a string of random letters or numbers like which might have been me trying to I don't even know what happened but it was like a string of nonsense and then a photo of this room and when I looked at my phone it had been tweeted and I was like this just this is on Twitter right now and so I deleted it I don't know if any of the listeners were following I don't know how long it was up there 10 seconds a minute if you saw me text if you tell me tweet out a photo of an empty apartment room that's what that was but I thought that's I'm not really right and I'm not the kind of person i don't have any uh you know i don't have any material sensitive material on my in my photos it's not really my move but i mean that was i was like without me doing anything a photo that was on my phone was just broadcast potentially to millions of people thank god i don't have anything on there that i i mean would be embarrassed about because that's that's the

00:44:48 - 00:44:59 | Speaker 2:

kind of worst case scenario right exactly yeah no i'm with you on that as well that there's not really a lot of stuff on my phone that i can think of that you know other than like you know like it's you know personal identification stuff that could

00:45:00 - 00:45:20 | Speaker 1:

you know, be valuable to a hacker or whatever. I don't have anything on my phone that is untoward. But, you know, you and I are of an older generation. Like, I think it's quite normal to have sensitive stuff in your photo roll or whatever. That is chilling. And so you weren't even touching your phone, right? Could it have been moisture? Did you say you were showering or anything?

00:45:21 - 00:45:56 | Speaker 2:

I wasn't at that moment showering. I don't think it was moisture. It just started being weird. It just started playing a sound. There was some kind of a video. And then I think I grabbed the phone to be like, well, I don't want, you know, that video playing, whatever it was. And then it just that screen went away. And then I remember seeing Twitter for a half a second and seeing this photo that was posted to this room and thinking, well, that couldn't have happened because I would that I didn't do that. And so I X'd out of everything. I closed down all the apps that were going. And then I went to Twitter to my account where I noticed that this photo had legitimately been tweeted.

00:45:57 - 00:45:57 | Speaker 1:

Wow.

00:45:58 - 00:45:59 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. Weird, right?

00:45:59 - 00:47:07 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't like that. By the way, I'm on your Twitter feed now. I know you said you deleted it, but I just went there by instinct. And I got to say, I'm reliving this conversation that you had. Oh, this was just yesterday. I thought this was earlier this week. A listener tweeted at you. A listener, Marilyn, tweeted at you that she apparently had bought a pair of glasses called the Lady Burbank. and she says does this uh bought these new shades are we now to be wed my lord i found this to be a very charming interaction by the way and you wrote short answer yes and then i didn't see this coming uh the real hold up moment for me and then she tweeted as it shall be and tweeted out a bonkers painting i'm looking it up now it's some um a painter from uh the netherlands i believe in the 1400s it is some sort of a interesting wedding photo but one of the characters is human the other one is a cat i can't tell if that's a photoshop but then the cat is wearing these sunglasses now yeah i'm not doing a good job lady burbank i didn't need to bring this up i just wanted to let you know that uh this was a public conversation that you had with somebody that i found very charming marilyn you're killing it at the twitter game well speaking of the twitter

00:47:07 - 00:47:45 | Speaker 2:

verse um somebody uh tweeted this out there's a there's an account called the npr-iest which is just somebody i think who's really super duper in the world of npr at least they're very interested in it and sometimes this is a thing that people me trying to describe a visual meme is not going to really pay off but people will tweet out a picture of a few things like in this case it's a picture of lady gaga jared leto and adam driver i think they're promoting uh house of gucci this new film which by the way i absolutely will see oh really oh god it looks so bad so how bad how

00:47:45 - 00:47:55 | Speaker 1:

oh i don't know i just i i thought you were going there i um it just looks so you know what it looks like it looks like one of those um american not american crime stories but right you know like

00:47:55 - 00:48:01 | Speaker 2:

the guy who made glee how they do the kind of the enactment yeah like the oj trial which i

00:48:01 - 00:48:18 | Speaker 1:

or whatever which i kind of enjoyed as kind of like kind of trashy television but on the screen i also just i jared leto never it goes very far with me um i don't know it just looks so it looked kind of corny and cheap to me it's i think it's got a great director right it's um uh what's his

00:48:18 - 00:49:09 | Speaker 2:

name blade runner guy oh i don't i don't know who that is but uh i here's the thing i'm a big lady gaga fan like i like her music but i just like her as a human being existing and i think it's cool that she's really good at acting too i also really like adam driver and i really like the outfits of that era like it's almost like in the way that you like watching old television from your youth on like youtube because you want to see the commercials because it just gives you this kind of warm feeling the outfits that i've seen in the trailer not like you know i mean they're kind of over the top because it's also about this fashion house but just the film being so rooted in what appears to be the sort of mid to late 80s i feel like there's just going to be so much stuff and i'm like oh i forgot about that um and so uh that's what's kind of appealing well don't let me

00:49:09 - 00:49:18 | Speaker 1:

steal your joy on that my apologies that was not that's not how i like those conversations to go um it's ridley scott by the way that's who i was ridley scott right yeah ridley scott i could you

00:49:18 - 00:49:28 | Speaker 2:

know blade runner guy kind of interesting range though yes i mean really that guy did he did aliens it's like you know he's done a lot of he did gladiator i think too yeah and i was talking

00:49:28 - 00:49:59 | Speaker 1:

to veves about that too because i think maybe that was it i saw it was like a ridley scott film and i just think ridley scott blade runner i love blade runner probably one of my favorite movies is that true i don't know i like it a great deal um and so so i was like yeah i think maybe my expectations when i hit play on that trailer were maybe uh outsized because i was talking about it with Genevieve later and she's like yeah but he you know he's got a wide range and also he's kind of hit or miss on something so anyway I hope it's good and I know what you mean too like sometimes it doesn't matter like sometimes the style and just like living in the universe is

00:50:00 - 00:50:14 | Speaker 2:

like um mrs parker and the vicious circle is a movie from the 90s about um uh who's the new yorker writer uh dorothy parker dorothy parker thank you um that i just absolutely love and it

00:50:14 - 00:50:19 | Speaker 1:

does not hold up oh i don't think i even knew that that movie existed i think that you would

00:50:19 - 00:50:34 | Speaker 2:

like it or you would have if you had seen at the time because it's one of those ultimate 90s movies So it's probably like, is it Blue Line Cinema or New Line? It's probably like a New Line Cinema. Let me just look this up because we have to get to top stories here.

00:50:34 - 00:50:35 | Speaker 1:

You've got to blow up a whale, my friend.

00:50:35 - 00:51:05 | Speaker 2:

That's right. The person who plays Dorothy Parker is Jennifer Jason Leigh, who does a really good job. And then Campbell Scott plays Robert Benchley. And it's just like, it's about the Algonquin Roundtable. And it's like one of those things where, you know, that's just such a storied time in history. A bunch of literary people sitting around literally a big table and just having their getting drunk and arguing and being so just witty, you know, like the movie is not good, but I'll watch it a million more times before I die.

00:51:07 - 00:51:40 | Speaker 1:

Now I'm going down a Roger Ebert dot com rabbit hole on this film, Mrs. Parker and the Vicious Circle. Anyway, if I actually end up seeing the Gucci movie, I will I'll give you a full report. I also may not get to it. I may just rewatch the trailer and call it good. I think we talked about this last year, because when I was going back and playing some of the audio tape on YouTube of this exploding whale story, the tape was very familiar to me. Was it last year that we celebrated this event that happened in Florence, Oregon, on this date in history?

00:51:40 - 00:51:44 | Speaker 2:

I think so. Yeah, certainly in the past couple of years. Yeah, pretty recently.

00:51:44 - 00:53:25 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, so the story was back in 1970, this whale washed up, this dead whale carcass really washed up on the shore in Florence, Oregon, and they couldn't figure out what to do with it, so they brought some guys out, I think from the state highway division. here's an interesting footnote for a long time in the state of oregon the beaches were technically considered state highways which meant that the it was the state patrol and the highway department that made decisions about what happened on certain sections of beach i wonder why uh i can tell you actually if i scroll down on the story by the way i'm still working without a printer andrew much to my um uh let's see uh the jurisdiction of those beaches the department let's see here the footnote to the tale is that a week later, this is a by the way I'm already jumping ahead to this other thing that happened but a week after this other event of an exploding whale, the highway commissioner's attorney ruled on the subject of state jurisdiction over the beaches. He reinforced what the department said before about only overseeing the ocean beaches. The legal precedent here was that the beaches were still considered highways as declared early in the century. So the highway department was still in charge of the Sandy Shores, Oregon State Park Department later took over later in the century. So I didn't really answer your question, but the point is that there was a sort of, they were considered to be state highway and state patrol property, which is probably why in 1970 you have this reporter for KATU television interviewing a guy from the state highway department talking about what they're going to do with this giant whale.

00:53:26 - 00:53:49 | Speaker 4:

Well, I'm confident that it'll work. The only thing is we're not sure just exactly how much explosives it'll take to disintegrate this thing so the scavengers, seagulls, and crabs and whatnot can clean it up. Is there any chance it might be more than a one-day job? If there's any large chunks left, and we may have to do some other cleanup, possibly set another charge.

00:53:51 - 00:53:59 | Speaker 1:

It's interesting because the guy is just supremely confident this is going to work, and as we all know, it really doesn't work, the whale blows up and goes everywhere.

00:54:03 - 00:54:15 | Speaker 3:

Hey, look at that. All right, Fred, you can take your hands out of your head. Here comes pieces of...

00:54:15 - 00:54:17 | Speaker 1:

That's so gross.

00:54:18 - 00:54:59 | Speaker 3:

Our camera stopped rolling immediately after the blast. The humor of the entire situation suddenly gave way to a run for survival as huge chunks of whale blubber fell everywhere. Pieces of meat passed high over our heads while others were falling at our feet. The dunes were rapidly evacuated as spectators escaped both the falling debris and the overwhelming smell. A parked car over a quarter of a mile from the blast site was the target of one large chunk. The passenger compartment literally smashed. Fortunately, no human was hit as badly as the car. However, everyone on the scene was covered with small particles of dead whale. As for the success of the effort, well, the seagulls who were supposed to clean things up were nowhere in sight, either scared away by the explosion or kept...

00:55:00 - 00:55:20 | Speaker 1:

So that was the kind of very famous event in 1970.

00:55:20 - 00:57:38 | Speaker 2:

But as I was doing some reading on this today at the website BeachConnection.net, uh they talk about an exploding whale that happened 30 years before the event that we have all come to know and love it was in warrington oregon it was in 1937 uh on the oregon coast and basically uh again there was a whale carcass that washed up on the beach in this place called warrington and uh they basically came out and had the same problem at first this is what they're how they write on the uh website at first the whale was a big hit many flocked to check it out and warrington was digging its new tourism draw but that slacked off rather quickly as the creature began rotting in the summer sun soon the entire burg of warrington was getting hit with the stench and by the last few days of august it was a nasty pervasive odor according to various newspaper reports including the bend bulletin the oregonian and the medford mail tribune among others god i really miss the days when you had that many legitimate daily newspapers in like the or on the oregon coast yeah right um uh the uh folks in warrenton sought the help of the state highway department in removing the smelly carcass um the department's engineer explained that the highway department only had jurisdiction over the ocean shores and not the tide flats where the whale ended up okay so this gets that question of jurisdiction uh warrenton then turned to the Civil Conservation Corps Which had been formed during the Great Depression Now these of course The civilian conservation Corps, these are the people that built Red Rocks These are Maybe not literally the same people But this was the same program that Roosevelt formed To put a bunch of out of work Young men To work so they wouldn't go off and make trouble And most of the cool shit that exists In this country was because of the Civilian Conservation Corps Because somebody got Paid a dollar a day to build a bridge somewhere Or Red Rocks or whatever So they have the Civilian Conservation Corps Show up And they basically decide They're going to use dynamite To blow this thing up You can guess where this is heading According to local news reports They snagged a powder man Which is a guy named A.W. Foster

00:57:38 - 00:57:39 | Speaker 3:

You need a powder man

00:57:39 - 00:57:49 | Speaker 2:

Yeah A guy who knows how to handle dynamite Named A.W. Foster Who's known as a powder man Feels like about the most 1937 thing

00:57:49 - 00:57:54 | Speaker 3:

i've ever heard i want to come up with a heist just so that i can employ this person we need a

00:57:54 - 00:59:59 | Speaker 2:

good powder man what about foster he's out of portland is he still doing time yeah a large crowd gathered and as the eugene guard yet another newspaper andrew in the area put it like the crowds that rushed to a fire a lot of people stuck their noses into something that Didn't concern them at Warrington last night, much to their own chagrin. Wow. I miss those days of newspapering. The 53-foot whale sat stinking to high heaven as Foster, the powder man Andrew, placed some 500 pounds of dynamite around it, hit the button, and boom. The newspaper said the guard's headline was, whale splatters, crowd scatters. that was uh in the newspaper they said uh it the scattered warrington's dead whale all over the landscape of the clatsop beach uh the next day the paper ran another barb uh blurb rather and proclaimed that it was a noisy funeral um the first piece in the eugene guard politely described what happened to the onlookers the day after the big boom locals flooded astoria's quote cleaning and dyeing shops and automobiles were lined up waiting for their chance at auto steam cleaning laundries i believe it it's basically everybody was covered in whale guts and blood and they had to take their clothes to the the dry cleaner and they had to get things apparently dyed or something maybe cleaning and dyeing shops maybe those were just all the same you think people were really having their clothing dyed back to its original color what year is this 1937 1937 yeah probably uh and then they had to take their cars to auto steam cleaning laundries so you know you'd think that it was in 1970 somebody there would have heard the tale of the warrenton whale that was exploded there was another whale a year after the warrenton one that It.

01:00:00 - 01:00:10 | Speaker 1:

more like imploded so it was on a beach in oregon and it was rotting and somebody went down to take a picture and they wanted to stand on top of it but there was sort of a bigger guy and he sunk

01:00:10 - 01:00:18 | Speaker 2:

into the way oh good got stuck the story went that's what we should do to our murderers that

01:00:18 - 01:00:39 | Speaker 1:

should be a sentence you want to talk about a fate worse than death that is terrible what would you do would you would you do two years or or go go um like elbow armpits deep in a rotting whale for five hours one year in jail or five five hours armpits deep in a rotting whale on the

01:00:39 - 01:00:53 | Speaker 2:

oregon coast or one year in prison one year um here's the order of things that that i would choose in order of preference i would take the whale first prison second and eating a spoonful

01:00:53 - 01:01:11 | Speaker 1:

of ranch third oh did i tell you that i'm doing a cbs story where i get submerged in a whale i wouldn't be surprised i don't know how to say no the swimming one goes oh i just found out the swimming one is going to take two days to film which means two days in the water which is one

01:01:11 - 01:02:19 | Speaker 2:

more day than i thought i was signing up for i think all of this though uh raises an important question which is what is a respectable seagull because in the original tape yeah our reporter what's his name i had it up here by the way he's kind of an uh i think his name is paul linman he's the reporter there who became famous well no i was looking it up well while you were i can't take credit for that because i remember hearing some interesting you know every anniversary or big anniversary he is interviewed right because he's the man who's known as the reporter who told the story of the exploding whale whereas i think he was an investigative reporter i remember hearing some two-way I've been looking for it here I can't find it there was some two-way last year at the 50th anniversary where they uh they talked to him again he's like yeah but we do this every year and he's like he had done some reporting on things that he felt were much more important at the time I think some investigative stuff maybe even on the national level but of course he is known as this but he's you know got a good sense of humor about it but he does say in there uh chunks of blubber that no respectable seagull would eat would want anyway and I'm like well Who are you to tell the seagulls what is respectable seagull behavior and not If I got to interview them

01:02:19 - 01:02:21 | Speaker 1:

Respectability politics

01:02:21 - 01:02:31 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly Paul Linman's been interviewed a lot over this topic I bet you he's never been asked that And if I ever get the opportunity, that's what I'm leading with

01:02:31 - 01:03:18 | Speaker 1:

I think we decided yesterday that you could become America's leading art critic Because you asked the right questions About, you know, the Banksy being painted over by Christopher Walken but this is also a good question why did he say that i here's what i think he i well first of all i think it's kind of the wrong it's not the right word there but if you wanted to make a very tortured argument for it you could say a seagull who was not respectable would not be embarrassed by trying to pick up a chunk of whale that was 30 to 40 times its size that seagull would look very silly because it was trying to fly away with something that was very obviously too big for it maybe ambitious seagull could have worked there or something right sure yeah we could have said chunks were so large not even the most ambitious seagull would

01:03:18 - 01:03:24 | Speaker 2:

attempt it get them on the line can we do a punch-up 51 years later we do a quick edit in

01:03:24 - 01:03:50 | Speaker 1:

three two and one all right we ran out of time for the uh myspace page but i actually i want to talk about this on monday with you andrew because i know that this is something that you're you're actually considering doing which is yeah you know what kind of re-entering the and i know it's not actually myspace but it's a myspace-esque thing yeah it's exactly like my i don't want to make i don't want to create homework for you over the weekend but maybe we'll talk about it on monday

01:03:50 - 01:04:08 | Speaker 2:

if you've joined or if you haven't yeah we should i actually you know i'd sent that to you yesterday afternoon and then i had forgotten um and i don't think i had much time to to mess around with it but over the weekend i should i want to i want to sign up for this and we can talk about my experience um so actually that's a good point too maybe other tens want to sign up for it as well It's called Hey Space, right? Hey Space

01:04:08 - 01:04:13 | Speaker 1:

And it was created by this 19 year old In like Sweden or something

01:04:13 - 01:04:17 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, we can all be friends Remember the thing about, well we'll talk about it on Monday

01:04:17 - 01:04:29 | Speaker 1:

Yeah First though, some music for your weekend Or maybe lastly though, for this week of broadcasting Some music for your weekend Andrew, do you have a song in your heart? Or in your brain

01:04:29 - 01:04:46 | Speaker 2:

That you want to show the listeners? There's no reason for me to pick this at all I'm sure I've picked this from time to time For music for your weekend over the years I didn't really, you know what I think earlier in the week I was planning on playing that Tom Waits song that we went out with On Wednesday The Heart of Saturday Night

01:04:46 - 01:04:59 | Speaker 1:

I'm laughing because of my My yearly My yearly misremembering Of the provenance or the origin Story of the song Downtown Train And And how like

01:05:00 - 01:05:27 | Speaker 2:

About once a year, I forget who it was, and then I go through the same exact process of reminding myself by looking it up on the internet and the listeners. One listener in particular who just happens to have our direct contact, who's really a canary in the coal mine, I think, of the experience of all of the listeners, but most of them just don't have an ability to just contact us directly. Who's just like, I'm listening to you do this thing again, and I'm just whispering to myself, no, it's the other way around.

01:05:27 - 01:05:29 | Speaker 1:

It was like, here we go again or something like that.

01:05:29 - 01:05:33 | Speaker 2:

I really liked your response, so thanks for sticking up for me

01:05:33 - 01:05:52 | Speaker 1:

Here it is Me in the subway, softly into my mask Nope, backwards Tom Waits wrote it, it's a Tom Waits song We've done this before The Rod Stewart one is the cover Someone Google And here we go again That is Chris's interpretation Of his experience listening to us

01:05:52 - 01:06:02 | Speaker 2:

To all the people who don't have the ability To contact me directly, I want to apologize That you had to go on that journey with me again we'll see you there in about 11 and a half months

01:06:02 - 01:06:12 | Speaker 3:

that's from an anonymous listener

01:06:12 - 01:06:16 | Speaker 2:

is that your music for your weekend? no I would accept that

01:06:16 - 01:06:51 | Speaker 1:

but anyway I didn't really come into this morning with a music for your weekend I was totally flummoxed and then I was like you know what song I like? the cover of the pixie song debaser performed by rogue wave on the oc soundtrack this thing isn't even i don't know why i landed on this but i think i've played this for you before over the years i didn't even watch the oc but i know that that show had like a lot of they drew a lot of hip music talent right to do to record special songs for the show and to i think i learned about

01:06:51 - 01:07:05 | Speaker 2:

The song You know California by Jason Schwartzman Phantom Planet I think I think I learned about that Phantom Planet song Because it was the theme song

01:07:05 - 01:07:32 | Speaker 1:

I think it was the theme yeah I mean I'm sure people who Watch that show and we probably have One or two in our audience Are frustrated by my lack of knowledge I know nothing Nothing nothing about that show At all other than there was like kind of They used good music and one of the songs that Somehow found its way under my iPod many, many years ago was Rogue Wave's cover of the Pixies song, Debaser. And I love it, man. You know me. I'm a big Pixies fan. This one rivals the original. I love it so much. Take a listen to this.

01:07:32 - 01:07:33 | Speaker 2:

Okay.

01:07:50 - 01:08:43 | Speaker 3:

We'll be right back. Pretty cool, right?

01:08:44 - 01:09:01 | Speaker 1:

I've never heard that version, and that's real good. Yeah, I love that. I don't know why that just clanged around in my brain today when I was like, I need to pick a song. Do you know that song Eyes by Rogue Wave? I think it had their first record, but I don't remember the track list. So I might, if you played it, I might know it.

01:09:02 - 01:09:42 | Speaker 2:

Well, that's what I'm going to call an audible. Okay. I'll do my, the song I was going to pick this week was a new release, but it'll still be pretty new next week. How about, this is unusual, but we have the capacity to change. And again, we're only 4,500 and so hours into this, so we're still kind of, we're figuring it out as we go, how to do the Music for Your Weekend segment. Let's do back-to-back Rogue Wave songs. This song is called Eyes, and it's very beautiful, and I like it a lot. I think, you were talking about how you learned about that song off of the OC. I think I learned about this song because it was used in an HBO promo for The Sopranos.

01:09:42 - 01:09:43 | Speaker 1:

Oh, really?

01:09:43 - 01:09:48 | Speaker 2:

Oh, which is when you hear it, you will be surprised because it does not mention Gabagool even once.

01:09:49 - 01:09:50 | Speaker 1:

You got there.

01:09:50 - 01:09:59 | Speaker 2:

It sounds like the most now, maybe we know what it might have been. It might have been a promo for like all of HBO's programming. Maybe it wasn't just Sopranos.

01:10:00 - 01:10:28 | Speaker 3:

but i remembered the sopranos part of it because i think that the idea was and this was actually a very genius promo because it's still in my head but it was these characters it was characters having a moment where they were recognizing something or looking it was really about their eyes but it was sort of highlighting the acting of the shows that are on hbo and how good it is and then the song is amazing and again it's so tonally different than what you think of with the sopranos but it totally worked like it was like yeah that is a good show because of how

01:10:28 - 01:10:41 | Speaker 4:

compelling the acting is so anyway i don't think this this looks like it might have just been a standalone single if it's if it was off of an album i'm not finding it here so that's interesting and so it also points to the fact that i definitely do not know this song all right

01:10:41 - 01:10:46 | Speaker 3:

so take a listen to this it's more rogue wave for you on a friday with the song eyes

01:10:58 - 01:11:22 | Speaker 1:

Missed the last train home Birds passed by to tell me that I'm not alone Well, I'm pushing myself to finish this part I can handle a lot One thing I miss

01:11:22 - 01:11:36 | Speaker 2:

It's in your eyes, in your eyes, in your eyes, in your eyes, in your eyes, in your eyes, in your eyes, in your eyes.

01:11:36 - 01:11:56 | Speaker 1:

Have you seen this film? It reminds me to walk through the avenues

01:11:56 - 01:12:01 | Speaker 4:

Bringing any bells? No, I don't know this song at all. It's very beautiful.

01:12:02 - 01:12:02 | Speaker 3:

Yeah.

01:12:02 - 01:12:04 | Speaker 4:

I'm also scrolling through.

01:12:04 - 01:12:18 | Speaker 3:

It's like a perfect song to listen to if you've just gone through a breakup because it just really doesn't in any way emotionally affect you or sing about the missing of people. So I would really recommend it for people who are already hanging by a thread.

01:12:19 - 01:12:23 | Speaker 4:

Yeah, sometimes it's nice to lean into those feelings. I know, isn't it weird?

01:12:23 - 01:12:25 | Speaker 3:

A certain amount of wallowing is also nice.

01:12:26 - 01:13:23 | Speaker 4:

You need to process it. I'm looking at... Okay, I'm going to go on a couple of little tangents here. The album that I had, and I don't know if it was their first, But it was called Descended Like Vultures, and that's the one that I listen to a lot. And I'm looking at the songs off of it, and it occurred to me, I could make a quiz for you, and I might. Sufjan Stevens song or Rogue Wave song, because they have a song on here, which I think was probably the most popular song off the record, called Salesman at the Day of the Parade. And is there a more Sufjan Stevens-y title than that? Which reminds me, so this is my process. I'm like, oh, I should make that a quiz for Luke at some point, which reminds me that, believe it or not, or even believe it or not, we're not that far away from starting to think about recording some winter games. It's going to be late in December. I'm going to be taking a little trip to Hawaii. I believe you'll be taking some time off, Luke. So we want to pre-record our winter.

01:13:23 - 01:13:51 | Speaker 3:

When are you going? I can ask you this off air. Yeah. I'm asking because as I look out on the rain scape here, I've been increasingly thinking, gosh, I'd like to go somewhere sunny. And the thought had occurred to me to maybe go to Hawaii. I forgot you were going. And how funny would it be if we were in Hawaii at the same time? Would it be the kind of thing where you'd ask me politely to just leave you alone? Well, no. Because you're like, this is your vacation. You don't need me hanging out with you during your vacation.

01:13:51 - 01:14:48 | Speaker 4:

Luke, look at it this way. There are several islands. We can each get an island, right? Like, we can divide it up that way. No, but no, I think we can talk about this off air, but I think you and I have coordinated this. And I think it's going to be the end of December, probably the last two weeks of December, if it's not too early to announce that. And I have already, without prompting, received the first submission of a quiz created by a listener. And, of course, it is Jake, the perfect daddy in Chicago, who sent in a fun quiz that he made. But again, if listeners, if you're new to this idea, we take a couple of weeks where we play. We take personality quizzes that you find in various magazines or maybe you want to test our knowledge on some sort of trivia. You can create a quiz for us. And just if you have any ideas like that, send it to me, Andrew at TBTL dot net. We got a little bit of time, but it wouldn't be the worst thing to start thinking about that in advance.

01:14:49 - 01:14:59 | Speaker 3:

I was looking at the calendar for for November and December, and I actually had the thought, Andrew, I was like, yeah, we've got to get on that. We've got to get those games submitted and we've got to get those recorded.

01:15:00 - 01:15:12 | Speaker 1:

Uh, because, uh, yeah, it's, uh, believe it or not, the end of the year is rapidly approaching. Yeah. So, all right. Uh, the music for your weekend from our listener is actually from my, my actual brother, DFTB.

01:15:12 - 01:15:14 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah. He was very excited about this.

01:15:15 - 01:15:58 | Speaker 1:

Now, here's the thing. I have not listened to this song. He sent it in last week, but it was, I had already selected a listener submission. And so, I mean, yeah, he's my brother. He's, he's my, my flesh and blood, but he doesn't get to jump the line necessarily, or at least not on a Friday morning. David, just heads up So anyway, we pushed it to this week I have not listened to the song It's by someone named Ron Gallo The song is called Hide Myself Behind You He said it is It bops Now I don't, I haven't heard the song I'm 100% trusting My little brother So if this song is good, if you like this song Then I get full credit for trusting my little brother If it's not good Blame it on my younger brother Because I did not preview the song

01:15:58 - 01:16:19 | Speaker 2:

I'm looking at the album art, and it seems up our alley. It's a nice, bright, sunny day. Some kind of hipstery-looking person, kind of almost like retro 90s jacket and a little Gilligan-style hat on their head, doing a New York Times Magazine crossword puzzle at a cafe. Seems like the right vibe.

01:16:19 - 01:16:40 | Speaker 1:

Okay. Well, that's what we're going to go out with here to wrap up our broadcast week. Ooh, I like it already. Thanks for listening, everybody. You're feeling it? Yeah. Okay, that kind of sounds like the beginning of a jackass song. Oh, yeah. No, I'm going to like this. All right, I'll shut up now. Thanks for listening. See you Monday. Until then, go Browns, go Seahawks, and please remember, no mountain too tall.

01:16:40 - 01:16:41 | Speaker 2:

And good luck to all.

01:16:41 - 01:16:50 | Speaker 4:

I would love to hide, I'd drown myself behind you

01:16:50 - 01:17:08 | Speaker 5:

I can't be alone, the unbearable tone of silence I fill the empty space with the pit of mains calling my love

01:17:11 - 01:17:21 | Unknown:

And when I feel bad inside I'll just blame it where I hide I would love to hide

01:17:21 - 01:17:32 | Speaker 4:

I found myself behind you I would love to hide

01:17:32 - 01:18:04 | Speaker 5:

I found myself behind you I drew this cartoon of you So perfect, so true What do you think of it? It doesn't look like you But more how I want you to But I still love it And when you don't live up to it I'll question everything

01:18:04 - 01:18:45 | Speaker 3:

I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I He doesn't want to be a good kitty. No, no, no. He's just a bad kitty. Power out.

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