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Derry, my team and I are trying to build a park, and we need input on the design from you, the citizens of Pawnee. So I guess I'm here to send out the bat signal.

A bat signal, for listeners who might not know, refers to the children's character, the Bat-Man, a strong gentleman who fights crime nocturnally.

That's correct. Well put.

TBTL! First thing, I never heard of you. Never heard your name before you went on some news show. I think you're a liar and you want publicity. That's all you want. First thing I want to know, what gives you the right to even be out here? I don't understand the question, and I won't respond to it.

I think we're pretty heavy on the bad news right now, so maybe just sprinkle in some positive, a spoonful of sugar and such. I love candy for dinner. What about you?

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Alright, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Tuesday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. It's an audiophile's nightmare. My name is Luke Burbank, I'm your host.

That's a tuna, bro!

Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center in Portland, Oregon, where we are looking at a beautiful day, actually.

Oh, Ma, Pa, it's just beautiful.

I know that it is, or has been, or was anyway, raining, like, wildly in the PNW, and folks were dealing with flooding, and there were mudslides and all kinds of problems, so I hope you're doing okay out there. I can tell you that here in Portland, it is looking nice. As of this Tuesday morning, something else that's looking nice, episode 3,555 in a collector's series.

Let the fun begin.

Which is where we've arrived today. They are rebooting MySpace. My face, your face, instant face. Go talk to whoever you want that does that stuff. I don't know. Well, by they, I mean a teenager in Europe has sort of rebuilt MySpace. And Andrew is signing up for it. So we're going to hear how that is going. Also, speaking of space, Russia blew up a satellite yesterday. Welcome to some kind of James Bond plot film, except it's real life. They blew up a satellite. And the problem with that is that then the debris was almost hitting the International Space Station and the astronauts on the space station, including two cosmonauts, meaning two people from Russia, had to hide out in the Soyuz capsule every time they went through the debris field, which is really something, so we will talk about that as well.

Odors cannot travel through the vacuum of space.

Plus, we'll do some emails and some V-mails with this guy, the longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's Andrew Zoinks, I'm going to smurf that beer. Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Good morning.

What was that? Zoinks, I'm going to smurf that beer Maybe that should be Zoinks, I'm going to smurf that beer That's going to be my new catchphrase on MySpace Or Space Hey Listen, we're going to get into this We're going to get into the Space Hey space Later on in the show, but could you help me right now Luke, I want to compose A tweet to let people know That I have signed up For this I'm a world class Twitter user

I'm exactly the person to ask

That's why I've come to you So I want to let people know now in advance before we get there. I want to tweet something I have to let people know.

You guys are thinking, hey, it's the guy from Twitter.

That I am on HeySpace now, and I want people to friend me so that we can kind of see who my friends are when we get to that part of the show. So what should I tweet here? Under the TBTL sigil, sigil is the word I was looking for there. I love the letter T. I throw it into everything. It's just fun. So should I just write, hey, it's Andrew. I'm going to be filling out my, I don't know how to, I don't know how to explain this. It's not really MySpace, right? It's Space.

Well, I'm calling it, I'm calling it MySpace, but you're saying it looks exactly like MySpace.

Oh, it's exactly like MySpace. I've just started.

to, like, I just signed up for an account and it's been fun so far. Are people

going, I mean, maybe we could just talk about it now, because we're sort of, I mean, we're on the topic.

Well, what I want to do is, I thought we could talk about it later, but I just wanted to get people in the pool first, so that's what I was just looking for now, a little Twitter advice.

So you want to send out a link to your Space Hay page, and then will people have to join Space Hay between now and

when we talk about it? That's my hope. Am I dreaming too big? I've been accused of doing that.

we have a very engaged audience I don't know if they're that engaged I mean let's find out send it out just say

I'm on the new MySpace

yes platform

yeah first of all

I think we'll just call it MySpace don't worry about the difference between Space Hay and MySpace you gotta sell the sizzle not the steak on the dude

yep okay

so I think you should say maybe a little comedy around the idea that MySpace is is you know kind of an older product maybe I just heard about this website called MySpace.

Okay, I like this. Yes. Something like that. Hey, it's Andrew. Have you guys heard about this new website called MySpace? And then I'll put a little link there. Join me, won't you?

That definitely feels like your Twitter got hacked.

Yeah, I know. Parentheses. Hey, listeners. This is not a hack.

I have a crypto opportunity for you, and there's a link that's just like 37,000 characters long.

I don't even recognize. My keyboard doesn't even have some of these characters. Okay, here it is. Hey, it's Andrew. Have you guys heard about this new website called MySpace? Here's a link to my thing. I just put a link to my thing. Join me, won't you? And then in parentheses, this is not a hack. All right, here we go. Tweeting it out. And then I'm hoping that in 20 minutes or so, Luke, I'm going to be the most popular kid on my space.

I'm excited that you're excited about this. How are you doing, by the way, on this Tuesday? Yesterday was a pretty intense show for us. And certainly it's still a very a lot of intense feelings for the listeners. Got a lot of of emails celebrating the life of Mike Frizzell. And also, I would say, just letting us know, I mean, maybe I'm, I don't know if this is what you had planned for the email segment, but I was really struck by how many people reached out to us to tell us a story about some nice thing that Mike Frizzell did for them that, you know, we would have no way of knowing about. Like this was not stuff he was doing to get any kind of pats on the back or he wasn't broadcasting it. It was just how he was. And I was really struck by that. He touched a lot of lives and was just really good at checking up on people and kind of helping them through problems. And so even though, again, yesterday was a sad day, it was also kind of a lovely day just to hear from so many people directly about the impact Mike had on their life.

yeah and i was just thinking you know first of all i just was thinking about how um glad i was that both uh jen and bill were were able to join us for that i think that it was just like i was just like like you said there was a lot of reflection after the show yesterday on my part as well like because part of it is like kind of ramping up to it and thinking about like how how do we do this how do we do this right and everything and then once once we had the show done and posted then it was just my feelings that were left you know and i was totally and i was thinking about i was like man that is and i know that you reached out to both jen and bill and phyllis uh for her reflections and again the voicemail that we received from maggie just like everything that went into the show yesterday i felt like um i was just really glad that everybody was able to participate in what i think was a pretty decent tribute to mike or at least i hope was a tribute to mike and that was you know about him you and i have a way of making things about us especially when we get insecure and start making jokes right but i i hope uh it seems like people feel like it was a fitting tribute and and you're right like what we're seeing in kind of the wake of yesterday's show is people sharing stories with us which i'm we don't have to sit on these if you want to share any stories now or we can share them during the during the email segment um but yeah how how much mic just in in some quiet ways just touched so many people's lives this is so embarrassing

and i i'm only bringing it up because this is exactly the kind of content that the tbtl listeners tune in for and so i feel like i need to uh out myself i wrote on my show sheet yesterday in all caps center Mike as a reminder to myself to try to for once not make it about me you know because the tendency on this show is for

us to center ourselves in every conversation and i was like if there's one day that i hope we can try to not do this it's today but the very fact that i had to write myself a note the fact that that's not my default setting in life is really embarrassing and we were able to do it for

exactly one show before no i've ripped the spotlight and i've no i've ripped it away from our departed friend and i'm shining it right back on me no i let us there i'm not uh that's not me slamming you but um but i mean i think we can all just be proud of us for being able to do it for about 24 hours so that was great yeah that was it was like uh it was like holding your breath when you're driving through a tunnel it was so hard for me it was impossible i know i'm looking at

your space hey uh i need to signal amp this i'm looking at your your space hey uh my space thing and um let's see we have one you have one response so far so that's good okay uh it's our friend Saul over there in the UK says it won't let me in without the numbers on the back of your payment

card. Okay, can you hold on one second? I should grab my wallet. I keep my wallet in the other room during the show so it doesn't ring. So I'll reply later to Saul. I'm going to throw in my mom's maiden name too, just in case that's important information for this.

Alright. You know what? For once in our life, let's go to the break early because we have a lot of top storying to do. And I feel like we're itching to talk about the my spacing also speaking of the internet apparently the internet in china is basically just turned into qvc and they're going to start doing it in america and i want to talk about that as well so let's do all of that on the other side of this quick break here on tbtl

let's thank some donors of the day

These are the wonderful, generous people making today's episode possible with their financial support People like Barbara DeVere in Grass Valley, California That sounds like a fire hazard It does, keep that grass green Honestly, no, I mean, no campfires, no burning rubbish Let's just really be careful in Grass Valley Yes Laurel Price is in Seattle, Washington Thank you, Laurel, for supporting the program. Then we've got Wendy Ross out there in Cheyenne, Wyoming.

That also weirdly sounds like a fire hazard.

It really does. I had the same thought. You know why? Dry out there. It just seems like it's probably a very flat kind of prairie land, which could just go up in an instant. We sure hope it doesn't. I don't want to jinx it. Just be careful. People were... I'm sure this person meant it mostly as a joke, But the other day, I just saw something on Twitter that was like, thanks a lot, Luke, for jinxing this. And then I clicked on the link, and it was the fact that it was going to snow in Green Bay for the Seahawks game. Because I had said, I think, during the no point, that it would be extra bad for Russell Wilson's finger if it was also very cold there. And somebody was just like, well, thanks for jinxing it. And I was like, that's going to be tough for us to not jinx things. because we talk about so much on the show. I mean, we're just kind of keeping the needle moving for five-plus hours a week, and if we're then on the hook for anything that goes awry, like if there's any kind of fire issues in Grass Valley or Cheyenne, it's now squarely on our shoulders.

Oh, no, that even occurred to me. And I don't even want to talk about this, but of course some people were laying the Dean Stockwell sad news on us as well because we had been talking about him right before he passed away. I don't want to be responsible for these things.

It's a lot of pressure. Did you hear us yesterday? We're emotionally fragile That's right Okay So please don't blame us When things go wrong In the world

If space hay goes down Tomorrow It's not my fault

Thankfully nothing bad Ever happens in Edmonds, Washington Which is where Allison Scheiderer Is checking in from Thank you Allison Elizabeth McElreath Is in Springville, New York Would that be our friend Bette?

I believe so That must be upstate Right?

Mm-hmm Thanks Bette Appreciate you And then Alicia Elliott It is in Stoughton, Massachusetts.

You're going to ask me if you did that right, and I don't know. I feel like this one comes up a lot. That is how I would approach that, certainly. But I've never been to Stoughton. I don't think I've heard of Stoughton outside of these contexts.

Well, thank you so much to all of our donors of the day. Thanks for keeping this thing rolling 3,555 episodes later. We would not be here without you. Hello and welcome to Top Story. I'm going to give your Space Hey account a little more time to get some traction. Okay, good. See if we can get anyone to jump on the line with that. So I just want to tell you about this wild thing that happened yesterday.

Russia decided to blow up a satellite because, you know, they are apparently, you know, their secretary of state is Dr. Evil or something.

Yeah. Whose satellite did they blow up? It was theirs. Okay. I was hoping that was the answer.

Yes. They blew up their own satellite, which was out of commission. I heard someone on NPR say yesterday, really, the only reason to do this is just because you can. It's like you have You have a laser that can blow up a satellite You're gonna use it at some point Because it's in the words of Dr. Evil Evil, it's freaking cool So they blow up this satellite But then the problem was it created a debris cloud Which the International Space Station Was getting dangerously close to So like every 90 minutes Or whatever the rotation was Everybody on the space station had to go hide In these like escape capsules In case The entire space station was destroyed by the debris from russia blowing up their satellite and i'm sorry when did this

explosion actually happen did it happen a while back because it seems like in space things happen like a while back and then you know you have to reap what you sow years later no this was i believe

it was yesterday okay or it was very recently because like basically they blew this thing up And then and then all of a sudden, you know, NASA, NASA, I believe, woke the astronauts up to tell them, you guys, everyone has to go like man your battle stations, as it were. Everyone has to go get into like emergency mode. And there was a couple of astronauts who had just gotten there like the day before they got there on a SpaceX rocket, which is just wild to me. Also, that that's just that worked. That's just a thing like it's oh, yeah, SpaceX brought it. Yeah, like that always just seemed kind of like a fantasy to me. But now it's not even a news story It's just like, oh yeah, SpaceX Yeah, Bezos just took him up there Is he SpaceX or is he Blue Origin?

He's Blue Origin SpaceX is the Elon Elon, exactly, or as I call him, the Tesla guy Yeah, it really is It's just like, oh yeah, Uber for space We just like handed that over

Yeah, so they sent You know, a couple people up on Uber And so they like just got there a day or two ago And then like in the middle of the night or whatever Is there a middle of the night when you're orbiting? oh i can't answer that question but anyway they woke them up and said there's a possibility that this debris is going to like you know destroy there was uh 1500 pieces of trackable orbital debris and hundreds of thousands of pieces of smaller orbital debris that now threaten the the interests of all nations this is what the u.s said we were very mad about this plus as i mentioned in the intro there were cosmonauts there are cosmonauts on the space station which i would be pretty mad if i was a cosmonaut at vladimir putin for blowing up a satellite that could endanger my life i would be like bro can you wait till we're off the space

station before you do this evil genius stuff right right we we do agree i've raised this before you and i are on the same page that cosmonaut is a much better word for astronaut right it's just

cooler i don't think so i like astronaut because that's astro in the title actually that's a

cosmos that's an actually good argument when you break it down astro is a better word than cosmo but when you combine it with a not i feel like cosmonaut i'd rather be a cosmonaut and we can we can like different things there's a whole song about that but there is in fact i am a little

surprised though yeah yeah so the other thing that was kind of funny about this though is the u.s was super mad about this and like released this statement then i was reading to the end of this um cbs news piece and uh it turns out that the u.s has also blew up a satellite in 2008 now the story says ostensibly to prevent toxic hydrazine rocket fuel from reaching the ground so i guess we could argue that we were trying to do it for the right reasons but uh we also have blown up we also have a laser that will blow up satellites i guess yeah michael but where'd the hydrazine come from hey how's your um how's your uh hey space doing i have um any do you have any friends over there i do want me to tell you about julia hurricane hawkins i do have one new friend by the

way that uh apparently a listener so we'll get out of that in a second okay uh in the meantime as

you're continuing to build online clout i want to tell you about this uh woman julia hawkins in louisiana uh she has set the world record for the 105 plus category of the 100 meter dash she did it in just over a minute and uh i mean part of which actually is not that slow but how fast you how

fast do you think i could run a hundred meter dash be honest and 30 seconds you think so yes i think

you could do it twice as fast as 105 year old because i don't i honestly can't even picture

how long 100 meters is i can't do the can't either but yeah i never learned the metric system and at

this point it's a lost cause i know what i love about this story is how much she is not giving the television reporter this the answers that he wants i know this as a television reporter that you go into a story and you know certainly something like this the idea is you're going to get a certain kind of response that you kind of almost feel like you kind of know the story or how the story is going to go going in. And she just sort of refuses to play along. And I just find it delightful. So this is actually from CBS. So, you know, don't at me. Columbia Broadcasting

System. You have got to meet the 105 year old lady from Louisiana who ran 100 meters and set a world record. We went to meet Miss Julia Hawkins and expected she'd be real excited to talk about the race but she told us it's just a drop in the bucket when it comes to the race

of life on your mark i can't decide if that the dog days by florence and the machine is an inspired musical choice because it's got the run fast for your father's run fast to your brothers or whatever i can't decide if that's inspired or if that's a little on the nose anyway

and she's off at 105 years old in a class all by herself and with a fresh picked flower in her hair julia hawkins was running for the record books at the louisiana senior olympic games she is running 100 meters a little bit more than a football field

so do you think you could run more than a football field in 30 seconds no no no no well 30 seconds maybe I think you could I think it's long I think that 30 seconds is longer than you think it is yeah I'm watching I'm watching Hurricane Hawkins run and I think that I do think

you could um you could run faster than her can I ask you some questions about what we're seeing in these visuals because I can't see them on my end um is she running by herself because this is a special break the record moment or is this an actual race where like everybody's coming off the

blocks or whatever you call them she's at the senior games but she's running by herself because she's the only one in the category of 105 or older okay all right so there was no one else to run had there been like a hundred and six year old i believe they would have been running against each other so the reporter shows up at her house whose home that she and her husband built together back

in 1948 and that's where we first met her the day before the race well hello miss julia hello

nice to meet you i'm david well david we've been waiting a long time on you well she's annoyed

that he wanted to be a world made her sit there forever this voice sounds like brian unger but

it's not huh it's david doesn't it if you if he didn't say his name i was do i have that right Brian Unger, he does stuff with CBS, right? Or am I wrong about that?

Maybe he does, but it definitely, it sounds like Brian Unger, but it's not Brian Unger.

You hear it, though. You don't think I'm off my rocker.

No, I don't think you're crazy.

I've been waiting a long time on you.

Have you ever wanted to be a world record

holder? Not particularly.

No. Are you impressed by it?

No, not particularly. I had too many other wonderful things before this. This is just a

dropping the bucket so they go into the history of her life uh you know her her long marriage to

her husband etc and then home and wrote about him in my diary he was so smart so you can tell this

reporter though has like this question he's really excited to ask her about her hopes and dreams what

are your dreams i don't have a dream i just want to go to sleep and let it end that's what my what

I can't believe they left that in the piece.

I know. That's the shocking thing to me. I love it. I love that she said it. I love that they left it in. But I am surprised.

It doesn't really work with the narrative that they're trying to create about this feisty vivacious. I mean, this woman is doing as well as one can do at 105. She's running a football field. She is, again, as healthy as a human body can be at this point. but even she is like I will embrace I will look forward to the sweet embrace of death

I'm just waiting for the icy grip of death to wrap itself around my ankle and pull me into the netherworld

what are your dreams

I don't have a dream I just want to go to sleep and let it end anyway

she sounds a lot like my grandma i can't really what is the um what is the the area where this is from

Louisiana.

See, my grandma's not from Louisiana, so my grandma doesn't have a Louisiana accent, but she is kind of from Appalachia, so she has some sort of an accent, and my grandma's 99, as I've mentioned on the show before. How's her racing skills? Well, I'll say she's not as media savvy as this woman who's got a few years on her because my grandma, I mean, I don't think there's any chance that she would hear this, but, you know, with all due respect, she is now in some sort of a, you know, a care facility and seems to be enjoying it. She lived independently until I believe she was 98. And then she had a fall right before COVID and went into a facility. And I was really worried that having lived, I mean, she's just a very independent woman. And I was a little bit worried that it wouldn't be, you know, great for her. But she seems totally fine with it. You know, she doesn't, she's been through some hard times in her own life. So I think that she doesn't ask a lot of life. She's comfortable. She's fine. She loves the food. Sometimes they serve sandwiches with a pickle, she tells me. But my mom said—

You know what that means? You're going to live for a long time.

Yeah, well, she's the—I mean, potentially. I mean, there's a lot of—you know, my gene pool is like a cosmic gumbo. So who knows? But I was going to say my mom sent me—this would have been last Easter, I think. She sent me a video on my phone where the people at this community or this facility, whatever it was, they were going around clearly like, you know, I don't know if it was like technically the nursing staff or the aides or whoever. And they must have been going around asking their residents to just some questions about their their Easter memories. And they were taping it on their phones and then they could share it, you know, because this is still, you know, the heart of lockdown, too. You know, this is a frail community, fragile community. So they're not seeing anybody for Easter. everybody's locked up so they're making these videos and sending them out I didn't know that one was coming my way until my phone blew up and I think I actually was like eating lunch or something somewhere and I opened this thing out I opened this little video up and my grandma I mean you want to talk about somebody who's not having it like she just she sat there and she sort of answered the questions but she just did not I don't think my grandma has any good childhood memories i mean this gets a little bit bleak here but like i don't know if she doesn't remember doesn't care or just doesn't want to relive it but like she was such it was a little it felt a little little interrogated a little abu graby the vibe of this of this kind of shaky cam video of my grandmother really not wanting to answer questions about easter it was she was a little

bit of a hostile witness i would say i was listening to a this american life the other day when I was traveling, and it was Sean Cole and Jonathan Goldstein.

So obviously this was a rerun. Yeah, those guys are so talented, yeah.

But they, and it was, the question was, they were sort of investigating the idea of, if you could go back in time, what would you do? And they went to a senior citizen's home, and they were asking the senior citizens about that. And what was funny was the senior citizens were deeply uninterested in talking to them. A, they were uninterested in time travel. Which was surprising to me because I, my sense is if I was, you know, 85 years old, I would, were it a thing that existed, I'd be interested in going back to being 25 years old. But these folks were not interested in it. And they also were not interested in having a microphone there. Like, and it gave me such, not unlike a reporter asking 105 year old, do you have dreams? And they say, I dream for the sweet embrace of death. Not unlike that experience, which I can kind of relate to. i can also relate to like going to a place where you have a microphone with a microphone and then trying to talk to people who are not interested in it don't understand the question many of the people thought they were talking about space travel and so they would say like i don't want to go to the moon and be like no we're talking about time travel it's a very confused but your

grandma would have fit right in there that actually sounds great yeah it was a good story i mean you

get sean cole and jonathan oh my god i know you're gonna get a good product that's cream of the crop radio right there all right let's talk about your space hey and your uh one friend what do you like how far into the um the development process of your myspace page are you hey luke yeah what do

space horses eat i just came up with that i swear to god like right now that's your tweet go back and do you we're starting the show over three two one space hey um i uh i so here's i told you i

think i told you in vives i told the crew my my great joke that i learned recently about the uh the the guy that goes into the library and he orders uh oh he orders a burger burger, fries, and a shake, and the librarian says, sir, this is a library, and he says, oh, I'm sorry, can I have a burger, fries, and a shake?

That is a great joke. I'd forgotten about that, but that is a really good joke, yes.

Okay, so let's talk about your MySpace page.

This morning, so the website is called spacehay.com, and it's basically, as you mentioned at the top of the show, a complete recreation of the old MySpace, one of the first social networking platforms, kind of the first one that I was on, if you don't count Flickr, and um it's it's not officially by the same company actually myspace still does exist they tried to like they were sold and they were they pivoted to some sort of like kind of band campy kind of site now but if you go to space hey it's this uh teenager in germany who recreated i mean a teenager in germany i guess was not alive when myspace was actually a going concern maybe just a toddler i'm not sure but recreated it it is like going back in time um it looks exactly like a myspace page for those of you who remember uh and all i've done is created a profile for myself it's called radio free walsh i could have chosen anything i could have just been andrew at first i put andrew w in there but i was like well if we're talking about this drawing from oh yeah so the only thing that i've added so far other than my name radio free walsh so that people can find me is my profile pic and this was something i almost didn't add this before talking to you i want you to be kind of my advisor on this because in social media in general um especially for a site like this i felt like is it dishonest for me not to put like a modern or like an updated picture of myself so i don't want to be um i don't want to catfish anybody exactly so like do i just put you know a somewhat unflattering photo of myself everybody see like this is an old balding man on here just like know what you're working with or do i do something that's like because i

have if you're thinking about hitting on me right i just want you to know what you're getting into

yes exactly hello kids i'm not one of you as the famous line goes from 30 rock um and so i'm going through photos of me and i like found one that you must have taken of me in um i almost said cedra woolly in uh what was the name of the city we were in in australia that was all underground Oh, Coober Pedy Coober Pedy Oh, that's a nice picture, use that one Yeah, it's just a nice photo of me Did I know you were taking the photo? I'm not sure, I'm just standing there My hands are in my pocket, it's a full body pic

I think we were watching the sunrise

Oh, that would seem right Because we did do a show during sunrise I was going to put that up But then I'm like, I don't know Then it sort of looks like, this is me Look at me with my big beard outdoors in Australia Am I trying to be like world traveler here? And I was like, no, no, no, I need something that's a little bit more goofy. So what I went with was I didn't want to go with my high school photo because I have this high school photo of myself, like my official portrait. And I have really long hair down to my shoulders. And I'm wearing like a sport coat and a tie and everything. I was like, I shouldn't use a photo of myself as a teenager since I'm 45. But my friend's kid drew a crayon version of that high school photo of me several years ago. I'm going to say maybe when she was around. I don't know nine or ten or something and so that's I don't know how she got a copy of my high school portrait but she decided to draw a photo of it

what the hell is tbtl oh that's the

that is the photo that is based on yeah maybe I don't think that that's anyway she's this whatever she's the daughter of my friend I went to high school with so maybe he had it laying around or something sounds like something he would do but she does point out in this drawing of me and this artist rendering of me that I am not smiling and she wrote in crayon with an arrow pointing to my lips not smiling that actually is what makes

that's what makes the drawing yeah and it's also pretty good

generally speaking it is actually

it is a good drawing but

do you think it's sending the wrong message though you think I should just do handsome man and Coober Pedy you didn't say handsome man I'm forcing you

oh I think you look very nice in that photo I think you're borderline handsome in that picture

borderline handsome could that be

that's gonna be my space hate profile borderline handsome here's the thing knowing the backstory of this drawing it totally makes sense and like i couldn't draw a i could not draw a a picture of you that is this that's as good as this one is that being said without context there's something mildly creepy about it yeah that's the thing on an adult guy's page it's like did you draw it is this the mask you wear when you go out at night peeping through windows like there's just it raises a lot of questions and that's not a critique of the art of the of the art skills because it's actually a very good drawing

particularly from a kid that is um not my creeping around looking in windows mask just to answer that question i have a different mask for that it's a shrek It's a Shrek mask. I've never seen Shrek. I don't know why that pops in my head.

I don't know why the idea of you in a Shrek mask is the funniest thing I've ever heard.

Okay, so now what I need to do is I need to upload this other photo of me then. So handsome man in Australia, right? But because this is such an old internet technology, you can't upload any photo that is bigger than two megabytes. And so I now – and everything you take with your phone is going to be so much more than that. So I am now importing this photo that you took into Photoshop and shrinking it way down to, I'm going to say, 2002 standards. And then I will replace that. Now, I have – since I tweeted that out, I have acquired a couple of friends. Now, two of them come with the toy. I wasn't going to mention that. So when you sign up, it automatically says you have two friends. which, of course, is very exciting at first. And then you realize one of your friends is Space Hay, which is just the platform itself. And then in the tradition of MySpace, the founder of Space Hay, who goes by On, I'm going to say? Yeah. A-N. Just like MySpace had Tom. Remember MySpace Tom? Yeah. This is like MySpace Tom. This is Space Hay On, the creator. So those are my two first friends. Now, it looks like our buddy Lynn has become friends with me now and somebody named Jake, who I wouldn't be surprised if that's Jake, the perfect daddy in Chicago. But who knows? No, Jake's got no profile pic up there right now. I mean, that's creepier than your nightmare. Thank you. That's what I was going to argue. OK, so I'm not going to mess around with the photo.

Can you load music into this thing? Because that's what I remember. I don't know if I've told this story before. but you know how you could you could have music that would just start playing when you went to your someone went to your myspace page it drove me nutso yeah and i was going through my first divorce my uh you know my i guess ex who i am on very good terms with now i'm happy to say but let's just say there was some there was some turbulent there was a turbulent period where there was a lot of arguing over various things that will happen sometimes when you're getting divorced and i think there would be nights where i would get i mean a couple things i was doing that were totally normal i was fastidiously and obsessively cleaning my apartment in brooklyn in case she walked by so she would see that my life was going great even though i was on the second floor and to my knowledge she had never been down that street in brooklyn she lived in los angeles and then the other thing i would do is probably get a little tuned up and go on her myspace page not do anything just go see it and it would auto play this spoon song that's very i love the band spoon by the way but this particular song was very jarring at the beginning it just had like a very jarring opening kind of 10 seconds and i just have this vivid memory of hearing that song and just immediately feeling angry and lonely and whatever the bad feelings around a divorce are set to the tune of that spoon song because it was auto loaded on my x

space page i was going to ask you what song it is but um maybe don't poison me with that because Maybe I don't need to inherit those feelings.

It had like it was like piano notes that were very staccato, if I remember.

OK, but I do remember I had forgot that was kind of later stage my space, right? Like where you could where you could do that. And it would it was so annoying. You would go to somebody's site and you couldn't turn it off. Like it would just like jump out at you. Yes. And, you know, maybe you were like a rat in your underwear. Thank you, Mo. Yeah, I forgot about that. It doesn't look like that's an option here. I did change my photo successfully, by the way, so I'm now – I mean, that photo of me, it's almost a profile. You can't even see me. You just see a man standing in a deserty kind of area. Now it wants me to fill in information like I can edit my profile, blurbs about me. That would be good for you, blurbs for burbs. Yeah, burbs, blurbs. And then who I'd like to meet. And first of all, I think that should be whom I'd like to meet. Whom but this says Who I'd like to meet

The person to whom you'd like to meet

And then I can fill out my interests Like my general interests my musical interests Movies but like everything we're used to With social media now like if it was going to be like Okay fill out this thing that is like What music are you interested in it would be like somehow Like you everything you fill out Would turn into a link to their band Camp site or something would be some crossover With Spotify right like No this is just a big text block I could just write I like music from a lot of different places around the world. And that would be okay with MySpace or Space Hay. There's something so, like, I'm playing it up a little bit, but maybe not as much as you might guess. Yeah, what do you think it is about this platform that is, there's something about almost the, not the restrictiveness of it, but just the limitations of it that kind of make it better in a way?

I think so. And also, like, I am sometimes a sucker for these things. Actually, this gets complicated. But, like, remember, like, it was six, seven years ago when Ello came out. Did I even use a drop from Ello in today's intro? Maybe not. But remember there was that – it was another kind of answer to Facebook sort of saying like, listen, we've got – Did you say hello? No, I said hello. No, I said hello. That's close enough. You know, like there was a time when all – you know, MySpace was around and then it would be replaced by something else and be replaced by something else. But then Facebook came along and nothing replaced it. And now Facebook is just huge. I don't know if you've heard, Luke, but it's called Meta now. Oh, okay. What's a Meta, you? I saw a joke online where that was the punchline. I've been trying. You're like the third person I've tried to workshop this stolen joke. I'm like, I need to deliver the punchline. What's a meta you? But I don't know how anybody can feed me the lines without knowing where I'm going with it.

You have to lean into your stereotypical Italian guy and think, what's a meta you?

That's how you sell it. Is that the show title, by the way? What's a meta you? What's a meta you?

People are going to go in expecting a kind of critical and detailed conversation around the metaverse

and it's just one thing that we said yeah but anyway there's just like i think there was a time when we were churning through these things and trying new platforms and it was kind of exciting and there was a sense of discovery and then we got stuck on on facebook kind of as a society but now here's where my analogy kind of breaks down because obviously since facebook more social networks have popped up but they're like more sophisticated and now i feel a little bit left behind in a way uh that maybe an older person would have when myspace was new you know what i mean the way a 45 year old wouldn't have given a shit about myspace potentially back in 2001 it's like i never really got into tiktok i have tiktok i'll view it from time to time but like i'm just not into tiktok culture i'm not really interested in being a part of tiktok culture same with like kind of snapchat when that came and went i played around with it a little bit just because i wanted to see how it would work but like so it's i'm being disingenuous if i kind of just say like well all social media kind of stopped with facebook that's not true it's just like i kind of lost interest but then this you know this is just plain old i think midlife crisis bullshit we're dealing with here like i just it's it's why did i laugh over that that would have been great to

have in the clear dang it listen dude i i realized this this morning when i was looking at this um this information about uh space hey i have joined my last social network that i will in my life and i guess it was probably facebook i guess or i mean well but i don't like post anything on tiktok i don't meet people i don't message people i don't interact other than i just look at it because sometimes the videos make me laugh when they're from pd usa but short of that like i don't i don't consider it to be a social network for me because i'm not really socializing and i dropped facebook obviously i i would say that twitter is the only social network that i social media network that i that i still kind of do any interacting on and you know snapchat i have no idea how to even get on snapchat i've never had a snapchat account um you know uh instagram i look at some things on instagram but i have like three pictures posted and again i don't really consider myself socializing

on there isn't one of them a guy on the ferry with like a animal on his neck he had a um i think it's

called a a main tailed coon cat it's like a cat that has thumbs and it was on his shoulder it was very much out of a bob dylan song and i took a picture of it and that was when i that was i was like okay this is the beginning of my instagram life i have this weird picture of this weird guy that i ran into and this is just going to be the first of thousands of photographs i post and then i just i just don't think to do things on instagram but i guess my point though is somebody could roll out a very cool social network uh social media platform whatever you want to call it and i will not join it anymore because i don't have the energy like i'd be more likely to go do this than the new stuff but it's weird to realize that like i'm just i'm aging out of doing social media stuff really other than again like twitter i guess but anything else that anything new that gets created i would be shocked if i want to put in the time to create a profile to go on there to

learn about it to meet people all of that stuff so that i guess answers my question you won't be

my space hey friend well i would do space hey so we can hang out in that virtual in that space

what if i also what if that became our main way of our main way of communicating i assume there is not a mobile version of this too i was thinking about this this morning which makes it even there is if you have a star tack it makes it even more appealing to me like yeah i'm not gonna get

up you know with like messages or whatever at a certain point like an like an answering machine the way god intended i will come home i will sit down behind my computer and i will see if i have

any space hate messages i would join this because it would just i do have a lot of nostalgia and i did have a myspace page and when the there was some news that like you mentioned this but like a couple years ago there was this thing going around the internet that said you might be able to find your old myspace page and i actually went to whatever the website was and tried to find myself because i would i would pay money to see what my like 2002 myspace page was all about

you know one of them we haven't talked about this yet and i'm assuming this is part of uh space because it's got to be it was a huge part of myspace was you could read somebody's bio that they wrote for themselves, but then people would write testimonials about you, and that was the fun part. I remember my friend Catherine, actually the mom of the girl who drew that picture, she was one of the first people to write a testimonial for me. She and I would trade testimonials for each other, and we were trying to be cheeky and goofy about it. Do you remember that aspect of it, leaving your profile sort of in the hands of your friends to recommend you?

I don't know. It's so long ago, and I don't – I just don't remember, other than stalking – that's a bad choice of words – other than sometimes going to the page of somebody who I was getting divorced from.

So you can't put that toothpaste back in.

I don't remember really what my behaviors on MySpace were, except I do remember going on there pretty frequently, and I remember tweaking my – wanting my profile to kind of, like, look cool and project a certain image. Now I'm on actual MySpace, by the way, because I already did this once, but I had so many emails ago. There's just no way I'm going to be able to get back into MySpace, which really bums me out because I would love to see my original MySpace page.

You said you're on MySpace now, but it's like the new MySpace, right, that just looks like some sort of a kind of –

It's pictures of Oprah interviewing Adele.

Yeah, right. It's almost like a –

Which I don't think is from the early 2000s.

No, I don't think so. It's like a – yes, like kind of a news – it's just kind of a cheapo news aggregator. Kind of generic website now But I am on an article from Good That you probably saw back From 2018 saying it's not too late You can go to MySpace and log in But I don't know That's where I got this link But I will

I'll try to sign up for this Because I think it's kind of a fun idea And also It would be hilarious if we If this is where we made the listeners come hang out now

Yeah Like, we're like, okay, thanks for everybody. We migrated over to Slack. Guess what? We're moving now to Space Hay. We're skipping right over Yellow and going to Space Hay.

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man, it's not from a female.

All right, let's do a couple emails before we skedaddle. I'd mentioned at the top of the show that we got some really nice messages. is folks remembering our friend Mike Frizzell. Do you want to grab one of those while I'm logging in?

Yeah, yeah. You know, I'm going to read this one. Somebody sent in a really nice note, and I'm going to read it here. But it's got some personal info in here, and I'm not sure if this was somebody who just wanted to share it with me and you, Luke, or for the general public. So I'm going to split the difference here and just leave their name off of it. But they say, I am absolutely gutted to hear about the passing of Mike. an absolute legend just to reiterate what an amazing and epic man he was the week the shows aired about his wild life i was on the long beach peninsula excluded on my friend's land drying up from a particularly hard bout of drinking which is a lifelong struggle while sobering up and listening to mike share his life i had a huge breakthrough i reached out to mike to thank him for sharing his struggles and his journey back without hesitation he immediately responded and spent the next week texting pardon me and he spent the next week texting all day with me and checking in on me for months afterwards a rando from the internet who likes his friends podcast it was truly one of the most touching and meaningful interactions I've ever had with another human being thanks for bringing us this gift in the form of the amazing Drew McFrizz and that is like a theme right that's kind of what you were saying at the top of the show and I echoed a little bit like we're hearing from all these people who say like yeah we all know you know mike from what he was doing publicly on social media and on tbtl and on the little red bandwagon and all of his projects but also he was just like quietly in the background reaching

out to people or being there for people right uh should i mention this listener's name uh who who basically talks about how much they enjoyed knowing mike You Because they're kind of also talking about some of their personal stuff.

Maybe we should just err on the side of caution because I do think that maybe some of these emails were just kind of because people wanted to share with us their experiences.

This is what somebody emailed us. They said, we weren't particularly close, but he always seemed excited to see me and always made me feel included. TBTL pulled me out of my shell, and a lot of that was thanks to the friendliness of Mike. Thanks to his influence, I became more confident, more comfortable in my own skin, and more social. I would have never known him if it weren't for the community that orbits around the show. I don't know his beverage of choice, but I did know him well enough to know his sense of humor and how he hated scones, scotch, and Shonen Knife. Today, I opened a bottle of 16-year-old Lagavulin that my brother gave me for my birthday. I made a delicious batch of cranberry raisin scones, and I'm currently listening to Shonen Knife on full blast, all for him, which I think Mike would very much appreciate. Like somebody doing the things he hates just to spite him or just to make him laugh.

Exactly. Now, these were a couple of tweets that I saw along the same lines. And these are tweets, so these are public. Lisa says, I, quote, met Mike via Facebook Messenger when I posted on the Stens page about some spinal surgery I'd had. Mike messaged me concerned about pain management and opioid use. Because, of course, just a quick reminder, I mean, that's what sort of led him down a very, very dangerous path, was just recovering from a surgery, right? Or was it a surgery or an injury? Yeah, it was a knee injury, I think. Prescription drugs. Anyway, Lisa says he continued to keep tabs on me until I was pain-free. It was like having a celebrity watching over me. You know, Luke, that reminds me really quickly. When I had a broken finger this spring and we talked a little bit about how they prescribed drugs to me, and I can't remember what exactly the context of our conversation was, but I remember I had the pills sitting next to me here on my desk during that during that part of the show and I shook him into the microphone and then later on I don't know if it was when I was editing the show or not it occurred to me I was like oh god I wonder if that's triggering and I thought specifically of Mike but I did think of anybody with like who had has or had struggled with pills and I did I remember hearing from him later I don't know if he referenced that directly but he did reach out to me something about the pills I think he was just very attuned to that and wanting to make sure that people were grounded and not have to, you know, make some of the mistakes he made. But anyway, he just touched base with me in some way. And I remember saying, hey, man, by the way, it occurred to me later that shaking those pills might not have been the greatest sound I actually thought of you. And he's like, yeah, that was, yeah, I can't remember exactly what he said, but he was like, yeah, that wasn't my favorite thing or something along those lines. Anyway, good story.

By the way, there's a nice.

What would Mike have said about that story? About my power out?

I'll space hey you. i just wanted to mention really quickly before we uh get out of here that there's a really nice obituary of mike that's uh at the seattle times in the obit section there's a nice picture of him he's wearing a tbtl hat so repping the brand even in the great beyond which you love to see uh you know a lot of public radio asks people to think about them in their estate planning we just ask that you're wearing tbtl swag yes please in any and all memorial photos yes um it's actually a really nice kind of just kind of remembrance of Mike and some details about his early life. Mike grew up playing basketball on the mean streets of Bellevue, Washington, and spent summers biking perilously down the hills of Lopez Island. He'll be missed by his old teammates at Interlake and Eastside Catholic High School as he graduated from the University of Washington, etc., etc. Details will be shared for a memorial where people who loved him can thank this veteran podcaster for his service. Did Mike write this?

Is it possible that he wrote this? Hey, can I just read one more here? Because, again, this is in the spirit of reaching out and Mike just looking out for others. So this is another person who posted this on Twitter. I think the name might be Wally. I'm unclear. But it says, I've known Mike casually and online for over a decade. He was a diabetic and had both of his feet amputated a few years ago. He reached out to me when my foot was taken last year. He was a good, talented man who had overcome a lot. And I miss him and again this is just like Mike identifying somebody going through a struggle That he went through and him actively Reaching out like yeah that he was doing He was just doing a lot of work That I don't know everybody realized

Yeah what a great dude I guess We should probably call That the show I want to tell you something Tomorrow about a person Who greeted me the second I came Off stage at live wire On Saturday night because we did the show Live with a live audience there was is somebody very unexpected in the audience and i'll tell you about it uh tomorrow on there how's

that how's that for a promo no i'm actually even looking forward to tbtl tomorrow that's a

now even andrews can tolerate tbtl

You know, I'm in a place where I don't know what to go out with.

I mean, what about that song by Space Hog?

Oh, yeah. I love that.

Since we've been talking about Space Hay.

Yeah, I love it. And blowing up the moon or whatever we were talking about before.

I mean, let's be honest. It's only a matter of time before Bezos blows up the moon.

Do you know about that Mr. Show sketch? No. There's a whole skit about how America decides it's time to blow up the moon. This is like very, it's just very America. But anyway, here's this song.

This is where it eventually goes. Amazon has the technology to blow up the moon, and unless you pay some amount, they will blow up the moon. But it's seamless. It's one button. It's very easy. And somehow, without even realizing it, we have ended up in a place where we all have to have Amazon so they don't blow up the moon.

Sounds about right. Yeah.

All right, thanks for listening, everyone. We're going to be back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio for you. Until then, have a great Tuesday. Take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall.

Good luck to all.

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