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#3567 Possible Power Pleats
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3567 Possible Power Pleats

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

December 2, 2021 | 01:16:22 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke and Andrew discuss The Flaming Lips while listening to Bush, because no one else will. They also discuss JAGs, LAX, Rob Gonkrowski's acting career, Spotify's year-end wraps, and their own bravery as podcast hosts.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:30 | Speaker 7:

It's hard. You're from a different generation. I don't know what anybody's talking about anymore. Me either. Like, who is Snapchat? Is he one of the minions? And are they all pokey men? I saw Hamilton. I was like, huh? I mean, George Washington wasn't black, right? Or is it one of those things where you don't know for sure? You know, like Santa Claus or Jesus. TBTL! Daddy's here, and Daddy is gonna take care of you. Please don't refer to yourself as our daddy.

00:00:30 - 00:00:40 | Speaker 6:

I really wasn't sure about this at the start. But then a friend of mine said something that just made all kinds of sense. She said, think of it more as a conversation. I like that.

00:00:40 - 00:00:45 | Speaker 2:

www.this and www.that. Let's www.explain it.

00:00:45 - 00:00:57 | Speaker 6:

Dolphin it, Liz. For sharks. I believe it was Benjamin Franklin who said, You have reached the end of your free trial membership at BenjaminFranklinQuotes.com. What a wise man. What's on the agenda, my friend?

00:00:58 - 00:01:11 | Speaker 4:

All right. Hello. Good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

00:01:11 - 00:01:16 | Speaker 3:

I'm so excited about this show. It is weird. It is beautiful. It has a plot that goes in

00:01:16 - 00:01:19 | Speaker 4:

fascinating directions. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host.

00:01:19 - 00:01:21 | Speaker 2:

What a fun, sexy time for you.

00:01:21 - 00:02:43 | Speaker 4:

Coming to you from the corner of Whittier and Wilshire in the beautiful Beverly Hills neighborhood of Los Angeles, California. California got sunshine. Here on episode 3567 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. If I sounded distracted, it's because I am analyzing this roof. I'm staying at a fairly swanky hotel here in L.A. on CBS Television's Dime, and I'm looking at the roof of this swanky hotel, and I'm trying to figure out, are they starting a green roof, or have they just not cleaned it in forever? because there are tree branches, like little saplings and moss and other things that are growing out of the roof. And it just seems like they either need to pressure wash that thing or they need to let it fully go green. Anyway, that's not important. What is important is that we have lots to talk about on this Thursday edition of the show, including some rants and some raves. Also, speaking of rants, my rant about people parking their trucks backwards.

00:02:44 - 00:02:47 | Speaker 1:

The sale starts in Trucktober and extends to Truckvember.

00:02:47 - 00:03:39 | Speaker 4:

Boy, did I go out on a limb on that one. The listeners are not going on that limb with me. What they're really doing is politely explaining why it is that apparently every single one of our listeners is parking their trucks or cars backwards or backing into their spaces. So we'll go through those responses. Also, because it's a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day, we'll do the Blur's Day messages and so many other things that we'll all find out about together in the next, I don't know, 50 to 60 minutes. All of that with the help of this young man, the longest running Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. I consider him to be sort of my personal sexy man. Amy, please send in my 11 o'clock sexy man. He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend. Good morning.

00:03:39 - 00:03:47 | Speaker 5:

How many sexy men do you have, by the way? Am I merely one of, or am I the sexy man? You're part of a coterie of sexy men.

00:03:48 - 00:03:57 | Speaker 4:

I've already told you my... But I would say you're definitely, you're pretty close to the top, though. Of my coterie of sexy men, I would say you're very near number one.

00:03:58 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 5:

Have I ever told you my JAG story? I don't know why this has been popping up in my head so much lately. When you were a Judge Advocate General in the U.S. Navy? Sort of. When I was talking to somebody about booking a Judge Advocate General on a talk show a long time ago. Oh, right. I don't think I was familiar with the term JAG. I actually think the show was out at that time, but I wasn't really paying a lot of attention to it. This was probably during a period where I didn't even have television. And you notice I call it television, not TV, because TV is a nickname and television is no friend of mine. Thank you, David Cross. But I was doing that thing that I found to be very, very uncomfortable at one point in my career. Although at this point, I think I was much more comfortable doing it, which is I was holding a pre-interview. So I was interviewing somebody by phone, not recording it, just trying to get some information. But I'm doing it, of course, in the cubicle farm of the newsroom that I worked in. And I remember being very shy about do.

00:05:00 - 00:05:32 | Speaker 1:

pre-interviews when I first started because I was kind of a dingus I was brand new to journalism I didn't really know what I was doing and all of the senior producers and hosts you know were around me they could hear these conversations that was when I was a brand new cub reporter this is several years later I'm more comfortable in my job I have a different desk and I'm interviewing somebody and I think I'm trying to book a jag on the show but I didn't know what a jag was for some reason or i'm talking to somebody and they're suggesting a guest to me or something

00:05:32 - 00:05:48 | Speaker 2:

right and on the other end i believe last time we we had this conversation i made a jag off joke and i am not doing that good i just want the listeners i would like the listeners to understand the amount of restraint that i am demonstrating here by not making some kind of jag off joke well actually

00:05:48 - 00:05:56 | Speaker 1:

speak luke speaking of that exact mr show skit that i do you say sketch or skit sketch that i

00:05:56 - 00:06:29 | Speaker 2:

just quoted i say sketch because i have still have dreams of being an on snl someday and i feel like if i say skit one time it's kind of they'll hear about it and they'll never let me on the show kind of midwestern huh saying skit well innocent well it's i actually i think it's a real thing in the in the sketch community because a skit is one kind of a thing um and a sketch is a different kind of thing and what they do on snl i think is is technically a sketch and if you call it a skit people in the know will they'll notice and again they'll never let me on SNL so that's

00:06:29 - 00:06:52 | Speaker 1:

why I don't call it a skit well I remember when Elon Musk was on SNL he tweeted something out that said I'm on like three different tangents now but he said something like hey what should I do for a skit on SNL this weekend of course everybody was mad that he was going to be on SNL so you had people like Paul F. Tompkins and everybody like you know kind of haughtily retweeting it and saying skit skit and I think somebody said your skit should be pay your taxes

00:06:53 - 00:07:14 | Speaker 2:

Anyway, the richest man in the whole land, and he doesn't know the difference between. Speaking of Paul F. Tompkins, since we're just tangenting about, may I quickly offer this? We're having Paul F. Tompkins on Livewire in Portland, December 16th. Also Demi Adigi eBay, also the band Deep Sea Diver. It is going to be one heck of an evening. Please come out. Okay.

00:07:14 - 00:08:09 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a really good lineup. So many skits. Ask him about a skit. Yeah, you should, actually. That would be funny. Are you working on any new skits? Well, if you ask him that with a straight face, I would have a lot more respect for you, or maybe less. I'm not sure how that works, but I'd enjoy it. Hold on. Okay, wait. I wanted to say, though, quickly. Back to Jag. Back to Jag, the show starring the guy that used to be on Dharma and Greg. Nope, this is still the other tangent. You mentioned Jag off, and in that same Mr. Show skit that I just quoted with David Cross, earlier on in that skit, it's the Donut Shop skit, there's a funny line where somebody yells take a picture it'll last longer you jag off actually it might be in a different skit and that i find that line to be so funny and it goes through my head all the time but i don't know is i don't want to keep saying it is that a dirty phrase is that filthy to say that or is it just like what does that mean i'm scared to look it up on urban

00:08:09 - 00:08:52 | Speaker 2:

dictionary me too it sounds dirty it also is not a thing i grew up with i it feels where's david cross from is he from like atlanta england no he's from atlanta oh atlanta okay well that blows my theory out of the water i was gonna say i feel like jagoff is it seems like something from like new hampshire like i feel like adam sandler probably uses it on that tape uh that yeah that you're right with like tollbooth willie and all of the other you know skits on that tape i feel like jagoff just it didn't make its way out to seattle so the first time i heard it i was grown and it sounded dirty to me but i don't know and again i'm afraid to internet search it i am

00:08:52 - 00:09:40 | Speaker 1:

internet searching it because i am brave and it looks like i mean you have to go pretty far down to get the definitions that are more dirty that um give it the same definition as let's just say a somewhat rhyming phrase um the the main the main answer here with hag off with for your your favorite rundgren record uh with 418 likes a a person usually male that has an unfavorable personality or annoying habits generally implies stupidity or ignorance example don't be so surprised he got thrown in jail he's a jag off second definition is anyone who angers a pittsburger So there might be some regionality there after all But it doesn't sound like it is as filthy as it sounds It sounds filthy

00:09:40 - 00:09:48 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, it really does Again, because it's very similar to a reference to self-pleasure

00:09:48 - 00:09:52 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, see, you didn't have to say that, though We're avoiding it We didn't have to say it

00:09:52 - 00:10:11 | Speaker 2:

Well, I've set a precedent I was talking about the Kenny G doc the other day on the show And I was talking about how somebody who was analyzing using it. his music versus sort of traditional jazz and that it was like making love you know jazz is like sex and what Kenny G does is like having sex with yourself jagging off as people say that's not what

00:10:11 - 00:11:51 | Speaker 1:

so I feel like that's not what they say I don't think so I think that's like the issue here so back to my story which is so yes not a payoff now man it is just so not a payoff but it is kind of one of those stories that it embarrassed me a little bit not in a crippling way so that's a win for me actually um but it's something that Genevieve and I will bring up a lot uh especially whenever the word jag comes up which is well probably more than it should but so I'm doing I'm on the phone I'm not thinking about what my side of the conversation sounds like I'm just involved in this conversation I'm doing my work I'm baby stepping and I'm talking to this person on the other line who's explaining to me what a judge advocate general is and I'm saying okay so jag like there are there's only one jag or there are a bunch of jags and she's like well there's one like main jag and then there's a bunch of jags who work in the department or something and i i just know that i uttered the words so is this guy a jag or the jag and i don't even think i totally realized i had said those words i finished the conversation i probably book whoever i needed to book or whatever and then you know my friend josh rogers right drollest man and all of the shire just saunters over to my desk and leans on the cubicle and just says is he a jag or the jag and i was like oh that is what i said and that is what you heard and like i said this story doesn't have a really good payoff but that line of josh's goes through my head quite a bit or actually i guess it was my line not his have i created those sorts of events for you those sorts

00:11:51 - 00:12:33 | Speaker 2:

of memorable moments by virtue of doing the show because if i'm being a 100 if i'm keeping it 100 andrew i'm mildly mad at josh rogers for saying that to you because it makes me feel like it kind of lives in your head and it was like he was he was just funnin but like those are the kinds of things that like those types of things can keep you up at night and i feel like you and i just talk so much to each other both on the air and off the air i must have josh rogers did a bunch of times like are there things i've said like that where i was just fun in but now you kind of like when you're falling asleep you remember me saying it and it makes you feel mildly not great i don't

00:12:33 - 00:14:45 | Speaker 1:

think so and i want to be very clear here i don't really when i say i was embarrassed i was embarrassed in a fun in a fun way honestly like and you know me like i'm very honest about my um when things make me cringe or when I like something that might keep me up at night that was not one of those like Josh and I were really good friends at this point and that's his personality and that's that's what you were that's why here's this and that's why I that's why I liked him like there was I'll tell you another story that again totally won't translate but me him and our news director Mark would go get pizza at some pizza shop in Concord I can't remember the name of it it doesn't matter but they had something called a meatball pizza there that you get really big slices right one of those things you'd get one slice for lunch or whatever they had a meatball pizza there where they made really really big meatballs and then sliced them very thin so it was almost like a large piece of pepperoni on a pizza except it was got it but it was slice yeah and one time we went in there and we were trying to make our pizza decisions as you do and i said to the guy uh behind the counter i said um you know because new pizzas are always coming out of the oven and I said do you have any meatballs coming out the shoot and again it was one of those things where I didn't realize that I had phrased it in that way and Josh just looked at me again I think probably just repeated my words in his own droll voice and that is another catchphrase in my life now do you have any meatballs coming out the shoot these are not these are not moments even the jag one they're not moments where I feel uh like they keep me up at night at all they were just like funny moments of hearing my own words reflected back back at me and no i can't think of i can't think of anything's happening i'm sure there are actually and i can't think of them on the spot so i don't want to let you off well don't think of them but no i don't i don't think so i think when i anything that i say on tbtl that might keep me up at night later is that's me uh that's me you know hoisting myself on my own petard as you like to say i don't think that you back me into those it's just me you can hear me sometimes when i'm talking and I want to make sure that I'm if it's a sensitive issue I'm choosing my words too carefully and it sounds really awkward those that's the shit that that you know keeps me up

00:14:45 - 00:15:23 | Speaker 2:

at night that's so interesting to me so well I'm glad that you do that and I kind of I think a little bit I've sort of taken your your lead on that a little bit or at least I've I think I've started to over the years be more careful with how I I say things because of how careful you are. And I think that's a good thing. I mean, I'll tell you this. I don't ever look back on things we've talked about on the show and think, God, I wish I would have gone harder on that topic. I mostly think, God, I wish I would have been more sensitive or more inclusive or more careful with my language. So it's funny that that's a thing that you sometimes bothers you about your own way of speaking, because I actually think it's really a good part of the show.

00:15:23 - 00:16:49 | Speaker 1:

Well, I want to use respectful language, but I think what I get embarrassed about is when it's clear you can hear my wheels turning. You know what I mean? It's not like I wish I used the proper language, but that I was more comfortable with it. You know what I mean? And I can't even think of an issue right now. Sure. But just something that I can say without, you know, you can start to hear me be very careful about. I think, you know what? I cut out a whole chunk of the show. something I don't often do, but now I'm now I'm reinserting it back in the show. I don't want to get back into the whole thing. Veeves and I talked about it on After These Messages a while back. You can listen to that. But you and I got into a conversation about Robert Gronkowski and these commercials he is doing for USAA, where in one of the commercials and this is the exact one of the reasons I cut all this out was I was stumbling over my words of trying to think of a respectful way of sounding like he was maybe developmentally disabled in this commercial and thinking that the writers of the commercial were trying to make him boyish so that the joke landed in a way that didn't seem offensive. But I think it was maybe developmentally disabled, which I don't even know right now if that's the proper terminology, but I wasn't even using that term. Do you remember this? We were like, I was dancing around it and I was trying to think of it and I couldn't get it out. And I was trying to be respectful. My intentions were good. I have no problem with my intentions, but I just sounded like an idiot.

00:16:49 - 00:16:57 | Speaker 2:

I didn't think you sounded like an idiot And did you cut out my hot take About Stolen Valor

00:16:57 - 00:17:03 | Speaker 1:

I think the whole thing is gone It's not even on the cutting room floor Because I think it just disappears when I make edits

00:17:03 - 00:17:54 | Speaker 2:

You don't have the reel to reel tape It's not on the garbage can Wait so no one even got to hear My awesome take on Gronkowski And the fact that he's basically Trying to present himself As a veteran That is exactly what's going on so he can get a discount and oh man well this is as good a time as any to mention my other fire tweet I tweeted off the other day which is my new way to get out of any sticky situation is to go ah busted I am Super Bowl champion Robert Gronkowski possibly I don't hate Gronk for the record I really don't he's just sort of a he's just kind of a happy dingus you know like I'm fine with him existing in the world but boy is his acting bad in those commercials well is sort of

00:17:54 - 00:18:52 | Speaker 1:

but it's almost it's almost effective i don't well again that's why those especially that first commercial where he is he is talking on the phone and he says like i'm special and it just especially that line because the way special used to be used like there's something about him and my argument and now i'm just reinserting all this back into after these messages was i wondered if the writers in the room and the well i guess maybe the directors um if you look in the background of the scene where he's talking on the phone to a customer service rep like they have a bunch of like things that indicate boyhood in the room behind him like i think an arcade game and some other things that and so i i was my theory was maybe they realized that unintentionally they especially with his acting they were sending out a message that maybe they didn't want to send or make it seem like they were making fun of people so they wanted to make it clear like he's supposed to be boyish not disabled in any way that was my argument yeah i don't i don't necessarily think

00:18:52 - 00:19:16 | Speaker 2:

you're wrong about that um but uh but boy yeah his acting is is is again he's so game too like which i like about him like you know that he showed up in a good mood you know that that was the 70th take that he did ah busted i'm super bowl champ i love it ah busted i'm super bowl champ Rob Gronkowski.

00:19:16 - 00:19:51 | Speaker 1:

I know. Well, that's the thing. Can we make that? His acting is bad, but also like those lines are written to be bad, I think. You know what I mean? Like I find that commercial both somewhat irritating but somewhat mesmerizing. I also, even though that's not a huge part, I really like the woman who plays the customer service rep. I actually think her reactions are actually pretty good. And, I mean, maybe she's just kind of cute. But, like, I think her, like, reactions, her wincing at him is actually kind of speaking on behalf of me as the viewer a little bit. I don't know. I can't tell if I like those or not. I think I don't.

00:19:53 - 00:20:00 | Speaker 2:

I don't know, though. Is it just the USAA ads or is Rob Gronkowski currently the most...

00:20:00 - 00:20:15 | Speaker 1:

featured football player active football player in commercials is it that they're just running the heck out of them or is he and he's got to be in multiple ads i feel like every time it goes to break i see rob gronkowski like two to three times in fact luke all right back to after these messages

00:20:15 - 00:21:21 | Speaker 2:

you're setting me up for more um for for more promotion here we did a whole synergy i think at the beginning of football season vives and i did a whole uh chunk play oh we called it do we call it gronk driving i don't know what we called it but um uh he's in these t-mobile commercials with um tom brady uh about like tom brady and gronk had a bad connection and that's how tom brady ends up being back in the league you have the usaa and then i found one some other ones that are not as high of rotation he's uh in a four hymns commercial those were airing at the beginning of football season uh for hair by the way because you know like they have various products for various things and um i guess i take all of them by the way yeah and a fistful of hymns products why are they not a sponsor then um also because we turned them down actually i think we did didn't we that was a long time we literally turned them down that was a long time ago yeah and then um anyway i did do a little roundup i think he was in some for hymns usaa and the um t-mobile commercial that were all airing in pretty heavy rotation at the beginning of the football season there was

00:21:21 - 00:22:10 | Speaker 1:

another one of those t-mobile commercials that i think is like aaron it's a baseball player oh maybe it's is it mike's what's mike stanton's new name uh john carlo stanton like it's it's two baseball players no john carlo stanton yeah what did he changed his name his name was mike stanton when he started out in in mlb and then i think he didn't have a good relationship with his father and at some point he started going by Giancarlo I had no idea there's some commercial where like two baseball players are talking about how they get in the zone and the one player is saying I just remember when I used to be in Little League but the call cuts out and so the other player gets the idea that you're supposed to go just dominate Little Leaguers which is actually

00:22:10 - 00:22:28 | Speaker 2:

yes I like that one yes yes yes I like that one too I think that actually the premises on all Those commercials are pretty good. Genevieve had to explain the other one to me, though, because, like, I'm so bad at pop culture. What is it? Is it like Pink, who's now married to a country star? Like, these are super famous people.

00:22:28 - 00:22:32 | Speaker 1:

I know Gwen Stefani is married to Blake Shelton.

00:22:32 - 00:22:48 | Speaker 2:

Yes, and I didn't know any of that. So, like, that was the first of these commercials I saw, and I didn't get anything. And so Genevieve had to, like, sit me down for a half hour to explain all of the background of all of these people and why that is a funny joke that these two ended up together as an odd.

00:22:48 - 00:23:41 | Speaker 1:

I would actually listen to that podcast with just Genevieve explaining to you the backstory on pop culture things that you don't understand. Because there is so much sort of, like, foundational stuff you need. Like, okay, Gwen Stefani, right, from No Doubt. She was married to the guy from Bush. you know what's Bush's big song? I forget but anyway Vaseline. I think it's a growl. I know it growls. Uh-huh Was it skiffing or sketching? She was married to the guy from Bush but then Gavin Rosdale but then they broke up and then she became a judge on The Voice. Meanwhile Blake Shelton was married to Miranda Lambert the country singer and things went sideways for them. Anyway both Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani end up as judges on The Voice and they have an unlikely love and they are now married and they're in that commercial. Is that all basically the same backstory that Veeves gave you? Yeah, I think

00:23:41 - 00:24:01 | Speaker 2:

you actually maybe even gave me more. I don't know if she brought Bush into it, but yeah, and the idea that they have a bad connection and they're talking to some mutual friends who are setting them up, right? And she's saying all the things she doesn't want in a man, but because of the bad connection, the friend sets her up with... Oh, that is a good premise. Oh, have you not seen that particular one?

00:24:02 - 00:24:03 | Speaker 1:

I don't think I have. That actually is

00:24:03 - 00:24:11 | Speaker 2:

a decent premise so then you see them on a first date together just like why am i with this guy and of course the joke is they're a real couple in real life i didn't know who either one of them

00:24:11 - 00:24:19 | Speaker 1:

were etc etc i think the bush song is called is glycerin it is i looked it up yep glycerin i told

00:24:19 - 00:24:24 | Speaker 2:

you it's growly so really i was the right it would be great if it was vaseline though don't let your

00:24:24 - 00:24:31 | Speaker 1:

days go by vaseline also sometimes i sing like adam sandler isn't i think it's fun there are

00:24:31 - 00:24:36 | Speaker 2:

some songs about vaseline though too right there's the band of vaseline well flies in the vaseline

00:24:36 - 00:24:49 | Speaker 1:

and then flies in the which is another grunge song yeah flies in the vaseline we are yeah that's and then um uh there's another one though that you oh the flaming lips yes yes that's what i'm she

00:24:49 - 00:25:00 | Speaker 2:

don't use jelly yes which i actually it's funny because that's their biggest hit right but it's not the um it's i don't think that's anywhere near i mean you're a huge fan of them

00:25:00 - 00:25:05 | Speaker 1:

I only know maybe an album plus, but like that's nowhere near their best song. Right. But it's their most famous.

00:25:06 - 00:25:53 | Speaker 2:

Well, it's it's maybe not their most famous, but it was the song that kind of was a breakout for them. So they were at the time. And I'm sorry that this is on you for opening this Wayne Coyne, this can of Wayne Coyne trivia. But Wayne Coyne was working at a Long John Silver's in Oklahoma at the time. And they had a record contract, but they were not really going anywhere. And then the song Vaseline came out, or She Don't Use Jelly, rather. And it was this massive MTV hit. And that just kind of got them, that bought them another couple of albums. And then they went on to do a bunch of stuff that obviously I'm a fan of. But I don't know if this is their most popular song, but it was the song that really kind of made their whole existence in terms of having a label and all that.

00:25:53 - 00:26:13 | Speaker 1:

I don't know if this is annoying to you and the listeners, but I am absolutely delighting in the fact that we are most definitely, and I will put money on this, the first podcast to ever discuss the origins of She Don't Use Jelly over the song Glycerin by Bush. Like, nobody's done this. Nobody's brave enough.

00:26:16 - 00:26:18 | Speaker 2:

I believe the song is called Vaseline, Andrew.

00:26:18 - 00:26:20 | Speaker 1:

Is that song called Vaseline or is it She Don't Use Jelly?

00:26:20 - 00:26:45 | Speaker 2:

No, no, I was joking because I called this one Vaseline. I'm sure most of the listeners threw their phone out the window. Can we let Bush take us to the break? Yes. I mean, it wouldn't be the first time it's happened nationally. I was trying to make a George Bush joke there. It didn't really work. Taking us to the break is not really what they did. They just committed war crimes. All right. Let's do a dark way to go into the break.

00:26:45 - 00:26:54 | Speaker 1:

I'm still trying to figure out the joke, but that's okay. I can't edit this. It's over glycerin, Luke. Like, everything you say has to be perfect now. We can't cut it out over the music. Be perfect.

00:26:54 - 00:27:02 | Speaker 2:

And now an ad from a bidet company. From war crimes. Are we the first podcast to go from war crimes to a bidet ad?

00:27:02 - 00:27:04 | Speaker 1:

Maybe, but sadly, probably not.

00:27:05 - 00:27:13 | Speaker 2:

Okay. Okay, let's take a quick break, and then we'll be back with more TBTL. Take it away, Gav. Disarray, man.

00:27:15 - 00:27:19 | Speaker 1:

Don't let the days go by.

00:27:19 - 00:27:36 | Unknown:

Thank you, baby.

00:27:38 - 00:28:12 | Speaker 2:

Hey, let's thank some donors of the day. These wonderful, generous folks are making today's episode possible. A day that will go down in infamy as the first time in podcasting history that a show was brave enough to talk about the music of the Flaming Lips over the actual music of the band Bush, which took us to the break, classically like the Bush family did. I feel like I'm going to get there by the end of the show. I'm going to work this into a joke.

00:28:12 - 00:28:35 | Speaker 1:

I just want to say one thing about that, too. you mentioned the word brave again which i think is key here because i don't think we're the first podcast to think of it i think there have been other podcasts that have had the idea hey let's talk about the flaming lips over top of the song glycerin but they didn't do it we're not the first to think of it but we followed through because we're brave it's easy to have a it's it's easy

00:28:35 - 00:29:06 | Speaker 2:

to have the idea sure but to actually have the i would say integrity to push through and actually do it and that's what separates us from the pack we trust our listeners like that's the thing yes we trust listeners like lindsey swanson of portland oregon hey lindsey lindsey i see you out there on the streets of portland i mean maybe not literally but but we could bump into each other at some point let's discuss the music of of bush uh over the music of the flaming lips

00:29:06 - 00:29:13 | Speaker 1:

for a change of face oh wow clear things up already yeah again integrity andrew that's the

00:29:13 - 00:29:40 | Speaker 2:

word claire walsh is in cambridge massachusetts you know there's some kind of construction company in portland that must be called walsh yeah and they have a huge they have a huge crane and it says walsh on it and i always want to take a picture of it when i drive by and send it to you but then i'm like walsh is a it's a fairly common name and it's probably on a lot of things but i think of you i get like geeked up when i see walsh on this crane there's a um yeah that company i

00:29:40 - 00:30:24 | Speaker 1:

think it's got to be the same one because they were building a building just a few blocks from me too and i'd always pass it walsh quick side on that too you know how my dad um maybe you don't you probably remember this my dad's nickname for me is andy boy i don't know how he came up with it um there's a brand that might have been around for Thank you. while but suddenly like blew up with either they changed their packaging or made it more visible or whatever but a couple of years ago i started getting bombarded with photos from listeners and friends and family members of this logo for this company called andy boy it's uh i believe it might be a bread company or maybe just a a food company writ large i'm googling it right now although i

00:30:24 - 00:30:45 | Speaker 2:

I put an antsy boy, which brings up a lot of weird things about something that happened in Georgia, some kind of police shooting with someone who was described as an antsy boy. Oh, fruit and vegetables, actually, not bread. Oh, I was wrong about that. But that's not the the Andy man was the grill. That was the grill. Yeah.

00:30:45 - 00:30:51 | Speaker 1:

Well, then when Andy boys grow up, they become Andy men. Andy's becoming

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Wolves Wolves becoming Andy boys Thank you Claire Walsh For supporting that conversation Claire's in Cambridge Massachusetts Amanda Wilhelm Is in Shoreline, Washington Nick Kennedy The King of Ska Nick What up Nick Thanks brother Checking in from Tacoma, Washington

00:31:16 - 00:31:23 | Speaker 1:

Nick's been part of tbtl before i was part of tbtl right he was on the show way back in the radio days talking about um

00:31:23 - 00:31:55 | Speaker 2:

he was driving a drug van and not like uh you know he wasn't working at a stash house he was actually like worked for a pharmacy and would deliver meds to places uh yeah nick has nick has been a long long long time supporter of the program thanks nick appreciate you albert Kostanich is in Edmonds, Washington. I wonder if Albert ever sees Rick Steves walking around there. That's my main kind of reference point for Edmonds, Washington. Home of Rick Steves. I wouldn't recognize Rick Steves if I passed him.

00:31:55 - 00:32:02 | Speaker 1:

Really? Which is weird because I know that he's known for, you know, he's on radio a lot, but he's also a TV personality, right?

00:32:02 - 00:32:19 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's a public television guy with his travel show, and people just absolutely love it. You know who loves TBTL? Adam Tyler in Bethel Heights, Arkansas. There's another Bethel Heights, isn't there?

00:32:20 - 00:32:20 | Speaker 1:

I don't know.

00:32:20 - 00:32:29 | Speaker 2:

I feel like I know of a Bethel Heights, and it's not the one in Arkansas. I wonder what that means. Is that a biblical reference, maybe? Bethel Heights?

00:32:29 - 00:32:38 | Speaker 1:

Oh, like you can't get into Bethel Heights through the eye of a needle with a camel? Yes. There's a Bethel Heights. A guy goes in the desert.

00:32:40 - 00:32:42 | Speaker 2:

I think I nailed it, Luke. He's too rich to get out of the desert.

00:32:43 - 00:32:51 | Speaker 1:

I don't think that needs any more explanation. I think I nailed it. There's a Bethel Heights Vineyard in Oregon, and I wonder if that's what you're thinking of. That must be.

00:32:51 - 00:33:11 | Speaker 2:

That's what it is. That's exactly what it is. That's what I'm thinking of. Bethel Heights. There you go. Thanks, Adam, and thanks to all of our donors of the day. We just could not do this without you. We would not have the integrity. I mean, we would have the integrity, but we wouldn't have the job of doing this show, And so, therefore, we wouldn't be here doing it without you, the donors of the day. Thank you so much.

00:33:11 - 00:33:22 | Speaker 1:

Thank you, baby. Thank you, baby. Thank you, baby. But everything's gonna be...

00:33:22 - 00:34:41 | Speaker 2:

That is such perfect timing, Theo. Oh, Theo. I love it. Oh, man. hello and welcome to top story i want to do these rants and raves at some point but i also andrew want to talk about this whole spotify thing that just went from zero to one thousand yesterday oh yeah in fact i was texting you and chris about this because like i had a very early shoot here in la yesterday like the 6 a.m shoot got up went to the thing and when i got done with the shoot midday and looked at my phone you had texted me and Chris this like a Spotify list that was just songs that are basically the artists that Tim Heidecker references and I think you should leave and I thought oh that's kind of like oh that was that's a funny thing to do okay cool whatever and I didn't realize at the moment that there had been in the in the previous six hours this explosion of people posting their Spotify like playlists and things I have to say tip of the cap to spotify whoever's doing their marketing stuff that's that's genius work because it really

00:34:41 - 00:35:00 | Speaker 1:

really took over the internet yesterday yeah now this has been going on i want to say this is maybe the third year that it's been heavily on my radar and i'm wondering if it's slightly newer to you i might be making an assumption there because you don't live on instagram quite as much and so it's I think it is. That's probably part of it.

00:35:00 - 00:36:20 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, and there's more of a tie-in with Instagram and Spotify. I don't know exactly what the relationship is, but they have a partnership where you can easily, like I would make playlists a couple of years ago. Oh, Theo, we're going to get through this together. Come here, buddy. What's on Theo's Spotify list? Oh, my God. He's coming up on my lap. We're in the, I was telling you before the show. A lot of Ted Nugent. We don't have to talk about it too much, but yeah, Theo, we're a little worried. I think maybe our days are numbered with this guy. I'm sorry, man. Sorry. oh yeah so you can like make a playlist and then easily share it on Spotify stories or if you're listening to a song so a few years ago suddenly it became like these roundups of like this is the music you listen to the most and everybody's like you know I'm thinking of my friend Nick Jarin right like he loves music so he'd be posting on Instagram stories these are my top five albums played this year that I listened to and then it got bigger and bigger and then yeah yesterday was probably the the most saturated the market got with these things of just everybody posting. Well, I think they released it, right? Yeah, it's one day where they suddenly, like, you get an email where you can look at it. Like, I could look at mine, too. I choose not to. I don't find it all that interesting, to be honest with you. But, you know, I guess it's kind of a window into people, like, sharing that kind of stuff. So, so be it.

00:36:20 - 00:37:53 | Speaker 1:

I looked at mine after that. So, after I saw your text to me and Chris, then I, like, opened up Twitter and I saw everybody was posting it. And then I was like, oh, I should go to Spotify and check what my thing is. And then I really wanted it to be like cool music. So then I could, you know, post it. But then it wasn't that cool of music. It was basically like, I think it was actually took a picture out of my phone. I will read you exactly what it was. And you're right, by the way, it unfolded like an Instagram story. The way that Spotify kind of was delivering. My number one was Having a Good Time Sometimes by Bakar. number two dreams featuring dana jean phoenix from time cop 1983 number three song good days by sizza number four time cop 1983 coming in again with far away and number five the gardener by the tallest man on earth uh i think if i wouldn't have had two time cop 1983 songs in it i would have been tempted to actually like tweet that out because i was like i i do feel like it is a bit of a a view into what someone's listening habits are and also if you like the songs that are on your list like if you feel like it's a good reflection like if it was all taylor swift actually that would be kind of funny too if it was if you just had five taylor swift songs but if it was music that i felt sort of not proud of like it was all counting crows again that would be funny if it was all counting crows i would have tweeted it out but i i understand why it why it was having The impact it was yesterday Because I do think it says something about the person Or at least we think it says something about us

00:37:53 - 00:38:39 | Speaker 2:

Well you know what I was thinking I'm going to look at mine now I wasn't even looking at mine Because mine is ridiculous Because so much of the stuff I play It's all B-52s Well that Yes a lot of it would be Except so much of the stuff I'm playing on Spotify Is stuff for this show It's songs that we're picking on the fly for outro music Now it's Bush It's going to be the song that I play at the end right no point conversion no matter what you know um that song is probably my most played because i play it once a week during football season i you know like so it's also genevieve uses my spotify too so it's going to have her stuff in there um but i will try to click through here and action if 21 oh come on this is just too extra see it makes you it is and it's like the writing the

00:38:39 - 00:39:03 | Speaker 1:

copy on it was annoying me because it's like well everyone else was you know focusing on doing all all the things yeah exactly you were winning at music you can music yeah i hate so much the whole trend of people like you can money yeah like the the using of a term that's not really a verb now to be a verb it's just like all the copywriters listening to this you need to stop

00:39:03 - 00:39:37 | Speaker 2:

doing that you can house it started with adulting i think and now i'm just sound like an old man um i've clicked through all of them okay here we go finally all right so actually top artists being Michael Christmas and Be Abadoobie and Jenny Lewis, Old Man Saxon and Big Star. That actually is way accurate. I thought for sure that was going to be. And then the songs are, yeah, I don't have to list them. But actually, I'm actually really shocked that my top artists actually paid off there because of just the weird way that I use Spotify.

00:39:39 - 00:40:14 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I stifled the urge to tweet it out, But I can see why people did because, again, if you like the music and you feel like it's kind of unexpected or, you know, like if you feel like it's a good reflection on you, I can – again, so many companies try to do things that will become viral. will become part of the Internet conversation on a given day, and it's such a hard thing to do. So tip of the cap to whoever, Zuckerberg, whoever's running Spotify. Is Spotify part of Instagram and then by that way part of the metaverse?

00:40:15 - 00:40:36 | Speaker 2:

I don't think so. I think they have that partnership with Instagram to make things easily shareable as a marketing thing, but I don't think there's any actual corporate connection there. I don't know who owns Spotify. One thing I wanted to say, though, is, well, I'll be honest. And I really I don't want to say this first part, but I'm going to be honest and say it because I'm brave. You know, I kind of don't like it.

00:40:37 - 00:40:38 | Speaker 1:

Integrity, I think, is the word.

00:40:38 - 00:41:49 | Speaker 2:

Like, I don't find I don't find it especially interesting what a bunch of people listen to on Spotify this year. But I am also on this podcast talking about the shit I listen to all the time. So I realize, like, I have a platform like let's not be hypocritical about it. But for whatever it's worth, I'm scrolling through the stuff. I don't care. I'm clicking next, next, next, next, next. I really don't care. But it got me thinking about something you just said on the show, either in yesterday's show or the day before, I think, when you were talking about the documentary you were watching. The Kenny G one? Yeah, I was blanking on his name for a second. And I think that was in the conversation on the air where you mentioned that somebody in that documentary said, well, look at the way this art form impacts people in the way other art forms don't. Like if you're very much into a book, it might not impact the way you dress or the friends that you make. Whereas music, we have this connection to music that is whether whether it's right or wrong. And it's something that I try to actually eschew. We just wrap so much of our personalities up in what kind of music we listen to, especially as younger people, I think.

00:41:50 - 00:42:25 | Speaker 1:

Absolutely. Yeah, that was the thing that that was that comment was made by the director of that film, Penny Lane. And she was the one who said it. And, yeah, it's really kind of stuck with me as well because I hadn't thought of it that way. But it really is – it's different than a lot of other things. Like no one is going around being like, oh, my God, I just love the paintings of Vermeer. And then gets the corresponding outfit and then it goes to clubs where other Vermeer heads are hanging out and then goes on. You know, it's just just we don't we don't tend to define ourselves by other art forms in the way that we define ourselves by the music that we listen to.

00:42:25 - 00:42:55 | Speaker 2:

Although, you know, I know I'm the one who brought that up and I've been thinking about it. But now that I think about it, it might just be that music is the ultimate, you know, pop art. Right. And and it's accessible to everybody. But maybe when you do get into art communities, the people who are into very, very modern art probably do dress a certain way and have certain lifestyles and certain friends that might be slightly different to the people who are very much into the classics. Right. Like those. Sure. If you were to go to the Met, you know, right.

00:42:56 - 00:44:30 | Speaker 1:

You're right. We it does affect us. But in I think in more subtle ways, like there is a uniform. well a uniform might be overstating but there is yeah there's a certain look if you're talking about people who are fans of a certain kind of art like you know paintings or people who are fans of you you're right in that like the the music stuff is overt because you wear a t-shirt that says the cure if you're into goth right right right whereas if you like a certain you know if you're like a Hockney fan uh you it's more subtle but there is probably some kind of mind like sort of shared brain syndrome with other fans of that kind of painting who then tend to read certain the same magazines and then see things and it kind of trickles down I had this realization on my flight waiting for my flight down here uh from Portland so it was a flight from Portland to LA and there was just a bunch of really stylish people I assume they were angelinos going home peace and love to portland but they just they just seemed sort of i don't know they looked like los angeles people to me and i just realized like i will never ever be in style again like i will never like they're wearing outfits and it was a you know sort of men and women gathered together and all with their hips and i recognized what they were wearing as hip and i was like you couldn't pay me enough to wear that stuff which is what unhip people have been saying for millennia like oh i don't i don't get it that's not for me and that's just when you know

00:44:30 - 00:47:00 | Speaker 2:

you're not hip anymore it's funny you should raise this because i want to be very careful with my words here because as i described myself earlier in the show i'm best when i'm being careful with my words but you know i my my first maybe year in la because of reasons that i do not blame on the city i was struggling there quite a bit and i missed seattle a great deal and i also was in la during a time of like you still see very much the remnants of it but like the fashion analysis la at the time that was new um and of course it hits places like la and new york first is you know kind of the power clashing stuff we've been seeing or you know had seen over the past you know eight years or whatever it's been now you know with the you know somebody wearing you know leggings or whatever that are just like just what i would describe as what is that um i think you should leave skit that has the the dan flashes dan flashes you know just like the true power 150 out the door and i had and i was like looking at the fashion of la at the time and kind of hating it and i remember you know and veves and i would get and again this was really i think mostly about me really missing seattle but i just remember so many times literally luke sitting in airports like you are describing now and me grumbling about the looks of the clearly la people and how much it wasn't my style. And then Genevieve would get into an argument. She's like, yeah, because Seattle's got a bunch of style. To her, Seattle style is she pictures like the east side of this region where you have all of your Microsoft people. A lot of tech vests. Yes, exactly, and beige pants and possibly pleats, possibly power pleats. Whereas I was thinking, no, when we were living on Capitol Hill, we were seeing the young people who still had some remnants of the grunge thing And and I just, you know, just more of a kind of cool look that appealed more to me as a 90s kid. You know what I mean? So it was like such a stupid argument and I'm embarrassed to even admit it. But I just remember like literally, Luke, as you say, we would go somewhere. And I think it was especially if I was coming back to L.A. from Seattle and being sad about leaving Seattle again on a trip to come back to L.A. and just like looking at the people who are flying back to L.A. and like rolling my eyes at them and also picturing what it's going to be like when I get back to L.A.X. and getting – I hated L.A.X. so much, those parking lots where you just – you can just park a car there and never see it again. Yes, I've embarrassed myself enough.

00:47:01 - 00:49:38 | Speaker 1:

No, I've been – well, let me – can you hit the baton to me so I can embarrass myself with my rant about L.A.X.? You now have to take a shuttle to get to where the ride share is. So usually when I come down here for work, I rent a car. But I decided this time that I was like the rental car shuttle is a nightmare at LAX. It just takes forever. And I fly Alaska Airlines, which is one of the later terminals. I think it's like Terminal 6 or something. So when you're coming back, you're just on this shuttle forever. And it adds probably 45 minutes to any, you know, airport trip. So I've got to factor that in because, you know, I'm always kind of cutting it close. Anyway, so I thought I was going to be a smart little girl this time and take a ride share. And you now have to take a shuttle to the ride share. And it is so much worse than the rental car shuttle. And they try to do this thing where they call it lax it so that it seems like you. It's an NBD. You're like, oh, I'm just going to lax it. No, thanks. It was like a 40-minute wait for the lax it shuttle. I got on. It was totally packed. Somebody tried to get into – somebody tried to start a fight. This is – I feel bad for the driver. Somebody tried to start a fight with the driver by getting into the – by entering the shuttle where the driver is. You know what I mean? And, like, this guy was arguing with the driver and trying to get on the – it wasn't like it was so packed he couldn't get on. He was just going in the wrong door. but his response to going in the wrong door was not to just go around to the correct door it was to say call the cops on me to the shuttle driver who was also screaming at this dude it was oh my god it was a whole thing and i was just like whoever made that decision at lax to put you know the and i know lax is a huge airport it's you know probably other than maybe like o'hare and like at like Hartsfield in Atlanta it's probably like the biggest airport in America in terms of you know traffic but you just you need to do the thing where you block off two floors of the parking and just turn it over to the ride shares and you know short-term parking and everyone walks over that's what is going on in most big airports now and at LAX somebody I don't know who it was was like well just have them jump on a quick shuttle to lax it over to this other thing and it's like it is so life ruining and i know that this is like on the list of major problems facing people in this world this is low on the list but man it was ticking me off yesterday and also i

00:49:38 - 00:50:23 | Speaker 2:

mean and the the shuttle when you park a car in long-term parking it's it's just like a nightmare i remember talking about this you know on this show back when i was living in la but like you could literally lose your car forever there like it made no sense and like the shuttles that would take you out to the parking lot like they made no sense as far as what their roots were like you would just be It is like a cartoon. I can't believe some – well, maybe somebody has. Somebody should make a feature-length film of just two people or a person or a small group of people just 24 hours in that parking lot because, like, it is astounding how it is just so counterintuitive. And it just reminds me of, like, a – I don't know, like Repo Man or some sort of, like, almost post-apocalyptic-y movie.

00:50:25 - 00:53:25 | Speaker 1:

Well, I told you what happened to my car once in that LAX long-term parking. it got towed because my tabs were expired right so i was i was parked in yeah like district nine basically and was taking the bus into lax is when i lived down here and my tabs were expired on my subaru and somebody you know some it's like to go into the paid parking and drive around and analyze the plates for if someone hasn't paid their tabs is, I mean, you know what, I take it back. I thought the person who put the Laxit shuttle in place was a war criminal. No, the person who decided we should drive the lots of LAX to try to find cars that we can then tow to LAX car jail, which is where my car ended up. I mean, you can imagine this, Andrew. I got back from some long trip. I get on that soul-crushing shuttle bus out to Van Nuys or wherever the long-term parking is for LAX, and then I'm just walking the lot. And obviously it's hard to remember. This was before the days where I would just always take a picture of exactly where my car is in any airport parking lot. By the way, that's a little life hack. If you're not doing that, you've got to do it. Just take a picture of your car with whatever the identifying information is from the lot you're in. it'll just save you hours of wandering anyway so this is before those days so i'm just walking around this parking like did i lose my mind i know i parked my car here you know i mean it was totally it was just a completely it was like the worst way to well i was gonna say it's almost the worst way to get back from a trip but then i realized the thing i was going to say that is the actual worst way was kind of a win for me which is when i broke my car out of the burbank Airport, which will go down in history as the most badass thing I've ever done, at least the most A-team thing I've ever done. So my wallet got stolen. I am convinced by a TSA person in Seattle. I walked through security. I left my wallet on the conveyor belt. I took one step away. I did my kind of padded my backside for my wallet, realized it wasn't there, turned around to go back and get it the wallet was missing this is the only part of the sea tech airport security that is not on camera and i think whoever stole my wallet knew that because i went you know to the security at like headquarters and they looked through all the cameras and they were like this is a blind spot in the camera i think what happened was a tsa person grabbed it and didn't think that i was going to notice and then because i turned around so quickly they were like the cat that caught the canary they had it somewhere on them but they couldn't go like oh is that you mean this wallet that i just have in my pocket right now because there was no other explanation there was no one else going through anyway i've told the story a million times but it meant that i got to burbank because i was through security they let me fly but i got to burbank i had no money and i asked the this again

00:53:25 - 00:53:29 | Speaker 1:

was in the subaru boy the subaru saw a lot of action in its day i'm glad you got rid of this

00:53:29 - 00:53:34 | Speaker 2:

car because i feel like it was a bad luck omen i didn't get rid of it what happened was my ex

00:53:34 - 00:54:22 | Speaker 1:

sold it without asking me mid-divorce well that was a favor i was doing you a favor yeah well that i mean that car was jinxed from the start i bought that car on ebay from stormville new york they i cashed out my kuow 401k so i could get the down payment so i could get the cash to buy this subaru legacy or whatever it was outback legacy on ebay it came out from stormville new york i drove it for one day the engine exploded it was a whole thing But anyway, yeah, so I had to break out of the Burbank parking lot because I asked the – I mean, I guess I didn't have to break out. Other people would have just figured it out and not driven up on the embankment and almost hit some newly planted birch trees. I framed it as there was like no option other than to do that.

00:54:23 - 00:54:33 | Speaker 2:

But you also know that I wouldn't have. But I also would probably still be in debtor's prison trying to figure out how to get me and my car out of it.

00:54:33 - 00:54:58 | Speaker 1:

Well, that was the thing. I mean, it wasn't fair to this parking person, what I was presenting to them, which was, can you just let me go and then I'll come back later and I'll pay you, I promise. And I had nothing in the car that was worth it. I was going through the glove compartment for collateral. The person was just like, no. I was trying to find something valuable that I could say, you hold on to this and then I'll come back and get it. Sorry.

00:54:58 - 00:55:03 | Speaker 2:

I'm glad you talked over my – Christopher Walken, I'm not doing that again. That was good. No, that was a mistake.

00:55:04 - 00:55:14 | Speaker 1:

I feel like most of that monologue is inappropriate now. Uh-huh, yeah, probably. Like, because it's a very racist, it sort of, it seems like a very racially tinged racist story.

00:55:14 - 00:55:16 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I forgot about that part, yeah, yeah.

00:55:17 - 00:55:50 | Speaker 1:

Is it, I mean, do we feel like it's okay, I know we're not getting to rants and raves, I'm sorry, to the listeners. Is it okay for a character, so basically Christopher Walken, this is of course in Pulp Fiction, he's telling a story to Bruce Willis or he's he is telling a story about this watch right he's in this flashback scene and this watch is very meaningful to Bruce Willis's character because Bruce Willis's father was in Vietnam and was a prisoner of war and saved this watch right am I remembering generally that that's what I remember generally but I think you're also going to say

00:55:50 - 00:56:00 | Speaker 2:

something that you remember more than I do because I'm trying I don't remember the details of it all that well having seen that so many times but does he use like the j word or something talking about

00:56:00 - 00:56:37 | Speaker 1:

the japanese he uses some he uses some um other inappropriate uh slur around you know asians or you know people from like vietnam or whatever oh yeah and it's okay yeah i remember but my i guess my question is like if the character if we're right if we're depicting a character who has bad takes on things and they say something racist but it's their character i wonder is that i mean are we leaving that in movies i think we are probably like in other words is that monologue problematic because he says inappropriate things or is it is it acceptable because it's depicting

00:56:37 - 00:57:54 | Speaker 2:

a person who has bad takes well i mean i say this to everything but i think when you say like are we doing this i mean it depends on who we are and like there's so many contextual things about that But honestly, because I mean, listen, if you are a white person, but you are like a white filmmaker, but you want to make a movie that tackles race and racism, you can depict racism without necessarily showing all. You know what I mean? There are there are all kinds of you can write a story however you want. i think with um tarantino tarantino as you later see in that film one of the worst one of the worst scenes in one of the best movies if that makes any sense is like yeah tarantino writes himself not himself but he he writes a character for himself where he's a white guy hanging out in his kitchen you yeah i know theo i'm not gonna say it but he uses the n word like crazy and it's kind of like i don't trust tarantino with these things tarantino is a great filmmaker in a lot of ways and I love that movie but Tarantino also just like he likes to think that he has a that he's allowed to say certain things that other people aren't because he's not tour or because I don't know he just feels like he has the right to do that and in his art in a way that I don't I think is gratuitous and not really the purpose of it is not for us to think about racism but it's

00:57:54 - 00:59:01 | Speaker 1:

for us to chuckle right that's a really good way to describe it and then you even get into stuff like Django which is obviously a really interesting very compelling film but I think there's you know has been some pushback now from people saying wow you're just you're a white guy just depicting the absolute torture of black bodies and like it's not like this is like it's not like Tarantino was making films that didn't have like it wasn't like Tarantino wasn't on film saying the n-word But before he made Django Unchained, like if he if all of his previous films had been like PBS documentaries or something and then he makes Django, you might be able to say, OK, well, he wanted to make this was his artistic choice. But he's a guy who's had a lot of chances to not say the N word on film and has not taken advantage of those chances to not say the N word on film. And then again, you know, Django is a very interesting and entertaining film and in a lot of ways really well made. But, yeah, there's a lot of weirdness there for old Quentin around the race stuff. Can I just point out before we get into rants and raves? That was a good Chris Walken is what I was trying to say.

00:59:03 - 00:59:31 | Speaker 2:

The show sheet today, you know, usually you have, like, two or three top stories penciled in, and we'll get to some of them. And today it was thinner than usual. You've been traveling, and, you know, we had the rants and raves as a top story. But aside from that, it was way more open than usual. And here it is. how far we're an hour and two minutes in the show and we haven't even gotten into one thing that's on the rundown like we don't need a show sheet stop making show sheets just start with

00:59:31 - 01:00:15 | Speaker 1:

how you doing and we'll go be brave the funny part is i if we didn't have a show sheet i would feel paralyzed oh yeah yeah uh the lack of uh the lack of a plan i would be like what are we going to talk about today but once we have the show sheet then we're free to absolutely ignore it There's a right way to rock And a wrong way to roll You can just listen to your soul Just remember Remember that life is number one. You can be having so much fun. Just remember that life is much fun. You can be nothing but fun.

01:00:21 - 01:01:32 | Speaker 2:

So much blurs today. Of course, we had to skip blurs days last week because of the holiday. In fact, Joseph in the Bronx had a birthday the day after Thanksgiving last week Joseph says, we celebrated last year by not doing anything or seeing anyone But I'm relieved and excited that this year we get to do stuff to celebrate This weekend, my 11 and I will be going to see Faith Saley's Off-Broadway show Oh yeah, Approval Junkie Ah, I didn't know about that And I consider TBTL to be an Off-Broadway show too, by the way We are not on Broadway We're not on Broadway So we're off Broadway We're way off Broadway We're one of the more off Broadway shows Yeah, I would say We're your number one off Broadway podcast Anyway, on my birthday itself That's a good show title Says Joseph We have possibly power pleats going right now As the leading contender I do have that written down On my birthday itself, says Joseph We are taking our four-year-old niece to see the Radio City Music Hall Christmas Spectacular. Here's to 42 years old being magical. Happy Blurs, Joseph.

01:01:32 - 01:01:49 | Speaker 3:

Henry says, please wish a super-duper happy inaugural Blurs Day. Insert awe sound effect. To my newborn daughter, Audrey Zoe. Last name auto-redacted. Did you put that in or did Henry put that in?

01:01:50 - 01:02:00 | Speaker 2:

That is something that Henry put in there. I was looking on my own sound machine for an aw sound, but that's on your red one. We have too many versions of this sound machine going around. You know what I mean?

01:02:01 - 01:03:20 | Speaker 3:

I have that sound effect on my computer, but here's the thing I did today, Andrew. And this is my commitment to excellence. I didn't plug my computer. Well, my computer is plugged in, but unfortunately, this is so boring. Happy Blur's Day, Zoe, Audrey Zoe. I have to put this particular kind of dongle on my computer so that I can send you the file later if we need to. And that dongle goes into the power input on my laptop. Sure. It has built into it, this dongle, this little adapter, does have an input for my power on it. But for some reason it doesn't work. So right now the power is plugged into this thing, but it's not charging the computer. And I'm at 20% of that power. And if I unplug this and redo it We will lose our connection So I've been trying to just get through it With the screen turned off Like the screen is on the dimmest setting So that I will not burn through the rest of the power And that is why Audrey Zoe Doesn't get the aww sound effect But just know that we're all thinking it in our hearts Right Oh by the way there's a little more to this message Your mom and I are so happy You are finally here And we can't wait to share the world with you And I can't wait for you to become a 5, a reluctant 11, and then a zealous 10.

01:03:21 - 01:04:18 | Speaker 2:

Aww. It's a process. Congratulations, Henry. It's actually Audrey Zoe. Oh, but he had the baby. I mean, their family had the baby. Congrats to the family. Happy inaugural blurs to Audrey Zoe. Great name, by the way. Henry, that is. Chris says, Super Fan Angela has a burl. Wow, I tried to convert birthday to Blur's Day on the fly, Luke, and you saw what happened there. Chris says, happy. Hey, Luke, we're doing this one more time. Chris says, super fan Angela has a birthday this weekend. It's Blur's Day. When she likes something, she is all in. Her license plate reads TBTL10. Hopefully you guys will visit the Cleveland area next summer. meeting up with you two would make her day yeah that's a that's another reason to get to cleveland

01:04:18 - 01:04:40 | Speaker 3:

right there how many tbtl 10 license plates are there i know there's around i think cheryl listener cheryl and corvallis i believe has one i've i saw one in bellingham i chased the people down actually maybe they just had a did they have a tbtl bump a license plate or just a bumper sticker i chased down some listeners in like a park in uh in bellingham once because i saw that

01:04:40 - 01:05:29 | Speaker 2:

their car had that going on uh i had a couple of friends over here for thanksgiving and they live in the east lake neighborhood of seattle washington and they were telling me that their downstairs neighbor like they must i don't know their living situation exactly but they have a downstairs neighbor who has a window I'll be right back.

01:05:00 - 01:05:24 | Speaker 1:

that opens up, I believe, into her, I don't know, study or something like that, and they saw that on a screen there was a big blue background with our faces on it. Most likely somebody was listening to TBTL or maybe using our images as a computer backdrop or something like that, but that made my day, so now I'm stalking that person.

01:05:24 - 01:06:03 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, it just made my day when you told me about it. Nicholas says, my wife, Abony, is turning 38. Our seven-year-old son, Adrian, is also a big fan of us or of Abony? I hope of Abony, considering Abony is the mom. He reminded me that it's important for TBTL to recognize Mommy's Blur's Day on the podcast. Aww. Short side story, I was giving Adrian a bath and talking to him about possibly visiting Seattle to go whale watching and berry picking. And he said, that's where Andrew lives. And I said, Andrew who? And he said, Andrew from TBTL. That's how much they love your show.

01:06:03 - 01:06:10 | Speaker 1:

That is amazing. That is great. I did. Somehow I didn't pre-read that one. Shout out to Adrian. I mean, also Abney. Happy birthday.

01:06:11 - 01:06:12 | Speaker 2:

But Adrian, what up, dude?

01:06:12 - 01:06:29 | Speaker 1:

Yeah. I'm with Seattle. Laurel in Burien, where I one time just did a great job moderating. Oh, that's right. Is this the Laurel who dressed up as Laurel in Yanni?

01:06:29 - 01:06:39 | Speaker 2:

Maybe. That's my go-to joke. I'm not talking about the band Bush. I'm making a reference to a meme from eight years ago.

01:06:39 - 01:06:55 | Speaker 1:

Laurel Imburian says, Hi, I'd like to wish my five Russell a very happy 14th Blurs Day. He has grown up with TBTL. Oh, I hope you're doing okay, Russell. We haven't turned your brain into a jam or anything like that. Happy 14th Blur's Day.

01:06:56 - 01:07:36 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, Russell, congrats on the birthday. And Laurel, thank you for checking in. Clive says, I'd like to submit a Blur's Day message for myself. I am, to my knowledge, the only Fort Lauder 10 and would like to be considered TBTL's official super yacht correspondent. You're hired, Clive. Nice. I work in the industry and have tried to offer Luke some boating advice, But we know how that goes Anywho, I'm turning 55 Or is it 54? It really doesn't matter at this point I know what you mean, Clive I'm with you The older we get The harder it is to remember what our actual age is You just had a birthday, Andrew, which I know you like to low-key Yeah

01:07:36 - 01:07:46 | Speaker 1:

Thank you so much A lot of people were reaching out via all forms of social media I wasn't able to respond to everybody But thank you so much, I appreciate it

01:07:47 - 01:08:02 | Speaker 2:

Also, Clive, you're hired as our superyacht correspondent. I'm fascinated by all things. I will never be the owner of a superyacht. I'll probably never be allowed on a superyacht, but I find it to be a fascinating topic. So anything you want to send in, Clive, on that subject, please do.

01:08:02 - 01:08:06 | Speaker 1:

I don't think you can wear your shoes on a superyacht or you have to have special shoes.

01:08:06 - 01:08:07 | Speaker 2:

That's why you won't go on there.

01:08:07 - 01:08:43 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, you either have to be, you know, barefoot and ready to go or just – Top-siders, very top-siders. Now, I actually do have, I'm actually wearing, I'm wearing a pair of Sperry Top Siders right now, but they've seen the street, you know what I mean? I don't think you can wear any kind of street shoes. Now there, you can't bring them on a super yacht. Nope. Damn it. M-Bot in Oakland says, a very happy Blurs Day to KTB, the Bay City's newest homeowner. Congratulations. Nice. Nice, nice, nice. And happy Blurs Day to all the tens that have the joy of sometimes celebrating their blurs on Turkey Day, myself included. Oh, nice. So happy Blursy to you as well.

01:08:43 - 01:08:44 | Speaker 2:

My sister Rachel is in that club.

01:08:45 - 01:08:47 | Speaker 1:

Oh, really? Do you mind saying what her actual...

01:08:47 - 01:08:51 | Speaker 2:

What is my sister Rachel's birthday on? What's that?

01:08:51 - 01:09:06 | Speaker 1:

I was going to say, yeah, what is the actual day? Do we share a Blurs? Her birthday was on Thanksgiving. Oh, I see, right. Okay, it was on the actual day, right, yeah. And sometimes... I thought you were going to ask me her actual age, which I don't know. There's a lot of us. No, I was going to ask you her actual address and social security number.

01:09:07 - 01:09:29 | Speaker 2:

I'll wait. I'll tell you offline. Krista says, I want to welcome one of our newest tens to the world. Arlo. Aw. Was born last week to my friend and fellow ten, Sarah. Congrats, Sarah. This is special. This is special. Sure is. Congrats, Sarah. And happy blurs, Arlo. Welcome to the planet.

01:09:30 - 01:10:12 | Speaker 1:

Now, check this out. That same Sarah also wrote into the show to say happy blurs day to Krista. Oh. Oh, I see how this goes. This is like, while we're talking about Tarantino. This goes all the way to the top. Yeah, this is like the end of the, what's Tarantino's first movie called? Reservoir Dogs. Everybody's pointing a blurs at each other, right? Weirdly violent imagery there. Sorry. Sarah says, happy blurs day to Krista. Krista is one of the few... I know IRL, and it's always great to know she'll understand the references I make as long as they don't involve Reservoir Dogs, and she knows exactly what memes and posts. She's the Tim Roth of Blur's Days.

01:10:12 - 01:10:16 | Speaker 2:

It doesn't go well for her in the back of the car.

01:10:17 - 01:10:57 | Speaker 1:

Garcon means boy. And she knows exactly what memes and posts to send me via Instagram. Also, happy actual Blur's Day to, we've heard this somewhere before, my newest five, Arlo. Arlo getting the double blurs we have known you for just don't let it go to your head your soft soft head Arlo some people say my head's too big I say for what compared to what for you we've just known you for over a week now and we can't believe we are lucky enough to get to have you in our family your dad Ryan and I all love you so much buddy now please get some sleep at night go

01:10:57 - 01:11:26 | Speaker 2:

the heck to sleep Arlo, your parents need it, probably. Chris in Philadelphia says, I'd appreciate it if you could wish a happy Blur's Day to my co-bro in life, Danielle. She started listening on the AM radio days in Seattle. Two kids and two cities later, her commitment to TBTL and us remains. Aw. Happy Blur's, Danielle. Thanks for riding along with us all these years. Yeah, hope you're having a good time in Philadelphia. I love that city.

01:11:26 - 01:11:38 | Speaker 1:

In the 215, in the Illadelf. Got a short note here to Erica from Dan. Happy Blur's Day to my 10 and best friend. Love your 11. Aw. Sweet.

01:11:39 - 01:12:03 | Speaker 2:

Short and sweet. Franklin says, happy Blur's Day to my amazing girlfriend, Jay, the sweetest, most talented and hardworking person I know. She's a robotics teacher and is a big fan of TBTL. You finally got a Blur's Day message. Enjoy it because this is your present. Also, please say hi to her dog, Steve. What up, Steve? You know that dog.

01:12:03 - 01:12:26 | Speaker 1:

I know who Jay is. Jay joined us on stage at the TBTL Live at Sea show. Wait, did we send Jay to drinking at an early age? Exactly. Is that the Jay we're thinking of? And her dog's full name, let's give it the respect it deserves, is Steve Nelson, named after our first boss. Put some respect on that name, as they say.

01:12:26 - 01:12:52 | Speaker 2:

Yes, put some respect. You said you don't know pop culture That's a big thing on TikTok Oh, but that's been an expression for years now Right, but there's a song that uses that And that song is people are really into it right now on TikTok I don't think it's even probably a new song But it's being a People have a dance And there's a put some respect on my name dance that's going on

01:12:52 - 01:13:11 | Speaker 1:

I realize I have painted myself into a corner here because we've already played Glycerin, and that was the song that we should have ended today's show with because I actually had that on the calendar for weeks now, end today's show with Glycerin by Bush, and then I just played it earlier in the show, so now I don't know what to do.

01:13:12 - 01:13:26 | Speaker 2:

Well, I would say let's keep it in that genre. So Bush, they were kind of, I don't think they were really necessarily grunge, but I feel like they were popular in the late 90s. Would that be the era?

01:13:26 - 01:13:31 | Speaker 1:

Maybe we should play some Flaming Lips and quickly talk about Bush over top of it.

01:13:32 - 01:13:54 | Speaker 2:

Oh, I love it. I love your integrity and your bravery. And my bravery. Don't forget the bravery. That's an important part, too. Yes. Let's play. Can we play a less well-known Flaming Lips song called, it's off of, it's called Cloud's Taste Metallic?

01:13:54 - 01:13:54 | Speaker 1:

Okay.

01:13:54 - 01:14:11 | Speaker 2:

Wait, the album is Cloud's Taste? Wait, is the album? There is an album called Clouds Taste Metallic. When You Smile, the song is When You Smile off of the album Clouds Taste Metallic. I got it right here. I don't know. And they do. If you've ever done it, if you've ever stuck your head out of an airplane, they taste metallic. It's a true story.

01:14:11 - 01:14:17 | Speaker 1:

Are you sure? Or is it just that you were running out in the cold and you kind of had that battery taste in your mouth?

01:14:17 - 01:14:25 | Speaker 2:

You know what I mean? You know what? I'm going to check on my flight home tonight. I'm going to actually, I'll double check that. Eating clouds. All right. So are we going with possibly power pleats?

01:14:26 - 01:14:31 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, that sounds good to me, and, you know, just to... Oh, dude. What's that?

01:14:31 - 01:14:50 | Speaker 2:

3% battery life. Okay, we gotta go. So I may or may not get through... No, I'm just proud it, like, you know, got this one in on fumes. Proud that this worked out. All right, thanks for listening, everybody. We'll be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you. Until then, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

01:14:56 - 01:14:58 | Unknown:

When you smile

01:15:00 - 01:15:16 | Speaker 3:

It's like I didn't need to say anything

01:15:16 - 01:15:26 | Speaker 1:

Or too much I could tell When you smile

01:15:30 - 01:15:50 | Speaker 2:

All of the sub-atomic pieces Come together And unfold themselves

01:15:50 - 01:15:54 | Unknown:

And unfold themselves

01:16:00 - 01:16:19 | Speaker 4:

boy being a disc jockey is really hard way harder than i ever imagined i hope you enjoyed it and i hope you'll come back next time for my very next show please i'm begging you power out

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