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Hey everybody, it's Andrew. One quick note before we get into today's show, Luke and I ended up having what I'm now learning is the perfect storm of technical difficulties on today's show. Luke is on the road, so he was dealing with a very spotty internet connection to say the least, so there are a lot of breakups on his voice. Usually, that's not a problem. Usually, we can just use our backup recordings and get around that. But it turns out my backup recording is totally bunk today, if you don't mind me using that kind of language. I'm dealing with some sort of technical difficulties that I'm still so frustratingly trying to troubleshoot as we speak. But I'll try to put that out of my head. But I wanted to let you know that because my backup recording is not working, we're just going to have to go with our main recording today, where Luke will sound broken up at times. I've tried to mitigate it as much as possible. But if you hear some breakups on Luke's voice, that's just that's just the way it is today. I'm really sorry, but I wanted to give you a heads up so that you didn't think it was an issue on your end as you were listening. So heads up for that. Thanks for listening as always. And don't worry, the rest of the show is as terrible as always.

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devil that came down from heaven to make some great songs and a dance forever. Please understand

that nothing personal is intended here against anybody. I don't hate these artists. I'm not trying to say that God hates them. And I'm certainly not trying to get you to hate them.

Listen, please, please, please. If anybody doesn't know the difference between a valance and a jabot, I really need you to leave.

All right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Now we're going to look at a place where hipster culture and world events collide. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host.

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Coming to you from the intersection of Wabash and Grand, perched above the L here in beautiful Chicago, Illinois. In a case gone cold, could a podcast bring the heat? Somebody's got to bring the heat because it is chilly today here in the Windy City. But we have a great show in store for you That is for sure It's episode 3571 in a collector series Let the fun begin Coming to you from Chicago today But the top stories are actually coming to you from around the world Specifically over in sort of Scandinavia Where the Prime Minister of Finland has had to apologize for clubbing until four in the morning after having had possible contact with somebody who

was covid positive there's a hidden rally ranch party in my mouth one of the news articles i read

said well this is possibly a uh a result or something that can happen when you elect the youngest world leader in the world which the prime minister of finland she is the youngest at least when she was elected a few years ago was the youngest world leader in the world and sometimes you're going to get them out partying hardy not something that probably will happen to our beloved Joe Biden or Joe Byron as he's called in some quarters I'll just tell you there's nothing more futile than trying to explain what do you want to tell Joe Byron trying to explain that meme to people who are unfamiliar. I spent the last two days on this shoot in the greater Seattle area where I kept bringing it up and people kept looking at me blankly and then I would show them the meme on my phone and they would continue to be confused by the whole thing. Anyway, we'll tell you the latest with the Prime Minister of Finland and then again we'll...

keep it in that part of the world and talk to you about Sweden, where a number of Swedish towns and landmarks are reclaiming their names from Ikea, which has named lots of their products after places in Sweden. You know how every Ikea thing has a name, which is to us, the non-Swedish speakers, often kind of confusing. I don't know who that is and I don't care to find out. There's a beautiful lake in Sweden that Ikea named one of their products after, and the product is a toilet brush. So I feel like if you could buy a toilet cleaner that was named Lake Washington or something. So we will go through that, and then I would like to give Andrew a little quiz on Ikea names that are real places in Sweden, but what is the Ikea product that the name is now attached to. We'll do that, plus we'll do the Blur's Days, because it is a Thursday. And we'll do all of that with the help of this young man. The longest-running co-bro of the show may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships. I mean, yes, he is a radio professional, and he sounds good on the air, and it's because he has been at this for a long time. He started recording in the early 80s. He's known for his love songs and his political songs. He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Nate.

You said I sound good, but do I still sound good to you? Because I had to move this cable again. I have a bunk cable on my end. And it drives me crazy to think that you might be hearing me through static. Do I sound okay to you?

You sound crystal clear, my friend. Clearer than Crystal Pepsi and more successful.

Right now.

I love that you went Sammy Hagar on it. You got to. And actually, by the way, we're pretty in tune.

I backed away from the microphone, and then I put some of that vocoder on it to get me in the right range. I'm going to add that in post. Hey, I wanted to tell you, I'm pretty excited today. I'm weirdly, hmm, I wonder if this is right. I feel weirdly more excited for my booster shot than maybe I felt for my first two shots for the COVID vaccine. Now, maybe that's because I had a lot more anxiety going into the first two, you know, the first two shots. Because you hate needles. I'm not a big fan of needles. You've been very clear about that on the show. Yeah, I mean, I definitely, yeah. Weirdly, needles aren't my biggest phobia. I think maybe it's more like having blood drawn as a combination of blood and needles. So that gets in my head. I don't know. I don't love needles, but, yeah, I'm going to get my booster shot this afternoon, not far. Also, the process just seems like it's going to be so much different. Like, the first time that Vives and I, you know, went to get vaccinated, we went to the huge sports center downtown, right, or, like, south of downtown, famously, and, you know, waited in line. And it felt so weirdly apocalyptic in a certain way, like, standing in line seemed like we were in a movie.

It felt like something out of Red Dawn in a way, like where you're lining people up with kind of temporary, you know, little – I always forget the names of those things, but those kind of metal guides to sort of have you go through the various channels. Yeah, it felt like something out of a movie. Stanchion?

I want to say stanchion.

I say stanchion, but I wonder if stanchion is – I think a stanchion might be like more like when you're at the airport and there is a – it's like a piece of – it's a nylon kind of seat belt-like material that you can pull out and connect to something. Yeah, so that's what I was talking about.

Yeah, what are you talking about? Oh, you're talking like an amusement park roller coaster line? Yes.

It's like metal, but they're also movable. So it's like a long kind of, you know what I mean? Like it's like a slatted metal barrier that kind of clicks into another one, but you can move them around. And when I went to the Salem Convention Center in Oregon where I got mine, you waited in those. Like they had hastily sort of set a bunch of those up. The National Guard had, which added, by the way, to that apocalyptic feeling. And you've got people in military uniform who are helping you through this process. Anyway, so you've been through all that, and now you are due to get your booster, and you're excited.

Yeah, and we're just going to more of a regular medical facility right here in the university area. And also maybe it's because I don't have a lot of nervousness about the shot. Although I do want to talk to you about this. Now, you're boosted. I don't know if you talked about that on the show. I hope I can say that. You're okay talking about that? You're not suddenly anti-vax and now embarrassed about the fact that you got your booster shot at some point. But I was very I mean, it is going to be a mess. issue for me because of how how much I was critical of Tony Fauci and the vaccine. And I'll be honest with you, I spread a lot of misinformation online. So now to sort of have to with my tail between my legs admit that I am boosted is I want to I want to apologize to the listeners for kind of toying with your emotions that way.

I'll bet you you're going to get in some trouble with Kid Rock. I bet you he's going to strike your name from that song that he recently did. Did you know that he gave you a shout-out in that song? My man, Luke Burman.

People have been tweeting at me about that.

Yeah. No, it was real. Anyway, yeah, so I did want to say, though, everybody I've talked to, like everybody who's gotten boosted has kind of taken a moment to look at me seriously and say, just so you know, like it really kicked my ass. Like even when I went into the dentist's office, I believe the hygienist who was cleaning my teeth said that he hadn't gotten his yet, But a lot of the other people in the office had, and he said, man, I got to say, it really knocked them back more than the original shots did. And I said, well, maybe they were just trying to get out of work. He's like, no, they worked through it, but they were miserable. And I was like, man, like, everybody's telling me this one's going to be bad. Did you have that experience? I didn't.

But I, you know, I'm wondering if it has to do, I mean, I got Pfizer. Me too. I don't know if it has to do with if you get Moderna or Pfizer or what. I have heard that as well. I also this is going to sound like I actually don't even want to say this. I but I will because I don't want to I don't want to in any way say that someone's experience isn't valid. But I kind of wonder if if everyone talking about how bad the third shot is in terms of just, you know, making you feel not great for about a day. I don't think we need to clarify with the listeners that it's still very worth getting the booster, but, you know, getting a little bit not feeling great for a day is a very small thing compared to getting COVID or Omicron or whatever. But I think I've heard that narrative a lot, and I know a lot of people have changed behaviors or at least have delayed getting it because they basically think, well, the day or two after the booster, I'm going to be pretty laid out. So I've got to wait until I have a little room in my schedule to feel not great. Like I knew some people that delayed it before Thanksgiving because they didn't want to feel crummy on Thanksgiving, which I totally get. But I wonder a little bit if all the talk around it isn't also putting people in the frame of mind that, boy, this is going to this is going to not be great. And then at some point it becomes to some degree a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Well, that's what I thought. I'm not I don't think of me as a real mind over matter kind of person. Like not only do I not necessarily do it, but I also don't necessarily believe in that. I don't think, I don't know, I haven't examined my feelings on it too much. But I do remember when the first doses were going out, or I guess I should say the second doses of the vaccine when it was new, I remember everybody saying that the second one was going to hit you harder, the second one's going to knock me out, a lot of that going around. And I felt a sort of, I think I felt whatever you're trying to describe now, like a bit of a, maybe like a prideful disbelief that it would affect me and so i really did like more than any example i can think of in in my recent history i said i'm just not gonna let it like i know that sounds weird it's not that's not me just kind of like come on come on ladies blood makes the grass grow that's not really how i go through life but um i was just kind of like i'm just not gonna listen sorry i had a i had a coat as my high school coach he used to yell at me and mike grable anyway um i uh at Walsh Jesuit. A couple of Walsh Jesuit greats. So anyway, I remember thinking, like, I'm just not going to let it. I'm just not going to let it. But I do remember, you're going to be surprised to hear this, Luke, but whatever day I got my second dose on, or I guess the day after. So I got my shot, and then usually you'll feel, if you're going to have any kind of effects, you'll feel it the next day. And the next day, I did TBTL with you, and I remember saying, no, I feel okay, you know, every now and then. And maybe I'll get a little chill, but I think I'm fine. And I remember going to Tubbs that day. I did my whole traditional, like I go to this, you know, sandwich shop. I got my takeout order of a giant sandwich. And then I drove to my special little Tubbs eating spot overlooking a lake not too far from there. And I remember eating the sandwich and then driving home. Now, this is a routine that I do quite a bit now starting at the beginning of the pandemic. And I remember driving home and getting lost. and I just kept driving and I took a wrong turn somewhere but I didn't want to turn around and I wasn't in a huge hurry and next thing you know I'm in all these long windy roads somewhere way up in North Seattle where there were like no intersections like I have no idea where I was and I didn't really care but I remember like feeling kind of high and I think it wasn't until later that evening when I kind of came down I was kind of like Thank you.

Oh, I think I was, like, because I was just, like, I'm not sick. I'm not sick. I'm not sick. But I think I actually was, like, kind of experiencing something because I think I was, like, I was kind of a little bit shivery, but I refused to think of the shivers as any kind of sickness. I just thought of it as, like, ooh, I feel tingly. Ride it out, baby. But I think that I was in a strange mental space because I, again, got lost driving home from the sandwich shop that I go to once a week.

I think I got – I was very lucky that for some reason the vaccine and the booster generally agreed with my body in that I felt – this is what happened all three times. No, that's not true. The first two times what happened was got the shot, was driving back up to Portland, and had like a fit of yawning. This is the day of. Like the day of just being like I am all of a sudden extremely tired. I didn't feel sick I didn't feel like I had a mild version of COVID I just felt tired and I was yawning a lot and then about an hour later I didn't have that anymore and then the second one I remember my arm was pretty sore the next day but I didn't have any feelings of you know again any kind of COVID symptoms and then the booster Becca and I got it at like the CVS or something in downtown portland and we got the booster and then we just went i think we literally like went to see wilco or something and it was fine maybe it was the adrenaline of seeing some quality dad rock but it just had no negative impact on me which i just i'm i feel lucky that that was how my body processed it but i do know that a lot of people have again legitimately i'm not trying to discount anyone's experience that a lot of people have legitimately said boy that one really put me down the booster but again i will repeat and i don't think anyone needs me to tell them this well worth it if i could get a fourth shot i would i was driving to the airport yesterday andrew listening to coverage of omicron and i for the first time ever since this thing started however many months ago i thought i'm probably gonna get that you know what i mean like i thought I'm just it's going to happen and I just should be prepared for it now I am boosted which does help me uh it increases the chances that I my body would fight it or I wouldn't you know if I had it it would be a mild case etc but I've sort of thought the whole time well if I mask up and if I'm careful and if I get vaccinated and this is something that I can probably make sure it doesn't happen in my life you know getting COVID and the Omicron is just so wily and has so many mutations and i mean i forget the exact number and i probably shouldn't get into trying to quote you know data on it but the the the amount of the increase in its ability to evade the vaccines is just shocking you know and i just thought i texted becca and i said one of us is getting this and if one of us gets it we're both getting it so i guess we should just kind of just you know kind of be ready for that i guess and then my thought was should i just walk into a walgreens and ask them if they'll just you know got any free uh any free booster lying around can i get a fourth shot like i would get a shot every day if i could to keep from getting this thing of course you famously

said you'd vote for obama third term if you could i believe i did vote for obama third term i wrote

him in i went to harris county in texas i did a drive up voting i was ted cruz's living nightmare

i thought you were going to say that you're so convinced that you're going to catch it that you're just ready to like just throw yourself like go to one of those little like trump country towns that i was driving through like on our road trip last spring and just like just walk through a bunch of unvaccinated people in a dive bar somewhere and maybe i don't know maybe rub your eyes after touching the bar or something just like you're just like let me just get it over with now i'll quarantine for two weeks and be done with it like a chicken pox party oh that's

That people will have – they were not doing that when we were kids. No, they weren't.

But that's the beginning of all this shit. I forgot about those.

Well, the left – I feel like the left-wing side of it. Oh, well, sort of. But there's not a chicken pox vaccine. There's a smallpox vaccine and other – chicken pox – or maybe they invented one. But they didn't have a vaccine for chicken pox when I was a kid. It was just a thing that you would – at some point in your life, you would get it. And then you would be immune to it was my understanding of it. And I got chicken pox when I was a kid. And I remember it wasn't very fun. Did you get them as a kid? I did get them, but I think there is a vaccine.

I just don't know. I don't know when it came out. But I think there's a chicken pox because there's definitely a shingles vaccine, right? And I think they're very similar. Well, I mean, my parents were not.

I mean, for all of their quirky ways when I was a kid, they were not. anti-vax. Now, one of my sisters did get whooping cough because she wasn't vaccinated, but it was not because my parents were opposed to it. It's because they were disorganized. And so the, I don't, I mean, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm trying to understand how it would be that I got chickenpox because I remember my friend Gabe got them. I got them. A lot of kids were getting them and I wasn't in an anti-vaxxer community. In other words, if there was a chickenpox vaccine available in the early 1980s i can't imagine that i wasn't getting it because of some sort of decision you know what i mean i wonder why it is i wouldn't have just gotten that vaccine and then not gotten chickenpox because everybody got chickenpox when i was a kid it looks so it looks

like it's new all so i'm on the government website here the um russian government's website now i'm on this centers for disease control and prevention chickenpox vaccination what everyone should know And it says chickenpox is a highly contagious disease It used to be very common The chickenpox Used to be very common I don't know why I said the chickenpox But in other words, not the vaccine But chickenpox, the disease The ride Used to be very common in the United States In the early 1990s An average of 4 million people got chickenpox And more than 10,000 were hospitalized Wow Now, chicken pox vaccine became available in the United States in 1995 each year. So now the CDC recommends two doses of the chicken pox vaccine, one between age 12 and 15 months and then the second between ages four and six years old. So, yeah, that would be why. So this happened. And so I think those vacs and I also think that those chicken pox parties happened as a as a, you know, like that was part of that. You're right. It wasn't coming from the right. It was coming from more like kind of the left or whatever. Like, but you think of like those, you know, kind of California families, you know, I know we're not like your Hollywood friends, like the California raisins. But you know what I mean? Like when I was living in L.A., you would hear about these communities of people who were just kind of like, you know, so holistic and everything that they didn't trust vaccines. So they would be having these chicken pox parties and stuff.

Yeah. We did not do that when I was a kid You were trying to not get chicken pox And then you would get it And it would be not fun But then you'd put some I forget what the Calamine Like a bath in like Calamine lotion Or take a bath in like cornmeal Or some weird There were some weird Some weird remedies That we were doing back in the day But Andrew I sent you a photo And I emailed it to you Have you seen it The subject line is Pick P-I-C Because I'm creative Okay When I name these things, I see the photo when looking at the photograph. Does this does this ring any bells for you?

Yep. I know exactly where this is. This is the coffee bar in the downstairs of the hotel. So the photo is just of two empty chairs at a long kind of empty counter looking out a couple of windows out onto a city street. Now, I know you're in Chicago. So my guess is this is exactly where I was hunched over my laptop computer, furiously writing a quiz that I would be giving to you or giving to listeners during the live show later that night, what, six years ago? And then you came up to me and I didn't even recognize you because I was so deep into my work.

Home Alone 3 was the topic of the quiz. It was a great quiz, by the way. Big hit with the folks who were here at the Virgin Hotel and who listened to it later. Yes, I'm here to do Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me tonight, and we're at a different theater. We're not at the Chase Bank Auditorium. We're at something called the Harris Theater, and so they have us staying at the Virgin Hotel, your favorite Chicago hotel, Andrew. And I went downstairs right before the show to get some coffee, and I went into that shop, and I saw the spot where the— I think we'll go down as maybe the funniest moment. For me, my favorite. Your favorite moment in TBTL history when you were sitting there working, and I came up, and I think I asked you a question about something just trying to mess with you, and you were so deep in thought that you answered the question but did not register that it was your longtime friend and collaborator, Luke, talking to you.

Can I just play how this went down at the live show? I have this tape isolated because I played it for a Hay Dummies before. So this is about a two-minute piece of tape. Later on at the night show I was under the weather too If you'll recall Yes you were And we're on stage and we're getting ready And I'm about to give you I think we had some listeners on stage Volunteers who I was going to give This Home Alone 3 quiz to And then you stopped The show Can I have the floor for just one Can you kill the music for some

I know that Andrew did his research on this

because today Andrew was in the coffee shop at this hotel sitting at the window looking up suburbs of Chicago actually looking them up on his computer

and the reason that I know this

is because Andrew Carrie and I walked up to you and I actually wanted to do a joke on you where I went up and pretended to ask for the...

What the shit?

I wanted to ask for the almond milk from you because you were there typing away. That was you who asked me for the almond milk? You had no idea. It was me. I took a picture of you to prove that I was there. That's you. This is not interesting radio.

I thought that was so messed up that somebody was like... I was sitting next to the coffee bar and somebody was like, are you done with the almond milk? I'm sitting here drinking my tea, bro. I did not even know that was you. I was in the zone.

It was such a ludicrous question intentionally.

I can't believe this is only coming up now.

It was an intentionally joke question because you were clearly working on your laptop. Why would you be using the almond milk? Me asking you about that was supposed to be where you were like, no. Oh, it's my friend Luke who I work with. You looked up at me and you said, I'm not using the almond milk. And you went back to your work. It was like.

And you worry about hooking up via Zoom in the mornings because I might notice you have, like, a bit of tissue on your face after shaving, as if I would ever notice.

Do you know that I've – I don't know if I – we've talked about this a lot, this moment of you not recognizing me or noticing me in this hotel. I don't know if I've ever heard that tape. Maybe you played it a different time, but that was – I found that quite delightful to listen to. I also have been actually thinking about what you just said a decent amount because we did some night shows this week and some special TBTL after these messages crossover shows. It was all because I was filming this stuff this week, and that's always a very kind of fraught and complicated time for me because I do not like seeing pictures of myself or video of myself. And I just can – my mind always goes to all of the things about my physical body that I just don't really love. And also the fact that even at age 45, I for some reason continue to suffer from breakouts, which is just like – just seems unfair. Like you would think as you begin your initial descent into, you know, late middle age and then senior citizenship and then, you know, being done on this planet, you would think as everything in your body starts to break down, as my muscle mass starts to deteriorate, as my hair thins out even more, et cetera, you'd think the one thing that your body would say is, well, we're not going to have pimples anymore. But that's not what my body says So I've been at these shoots And I had this Like odd Just pimple that had developed on kind of like My upper cheek it was like imagine if I'd Killed someone in prison Andrew and I got a Teardrop tattoo That part of my face except It wasn't a teardrop tattoo it was a It was a pimple and

It's like if you popped a pimple in prison And then you had to get a pimple tattoo Right well that's what they say the first day you go up to

the biggest pimple in the prison you pop it yeah you have to yeah sends a message so you just walk in with a stridex pad and you just wipe the person down so and i you know the listeners have i mean this is speaking of live shows this is something that's come up someone brought me people have brought me face wash and products to live shows and emailed me and i don't know if it's i'm eating the wrong things or if it's just my pores have i don't know what it is it's not a great feeling at age 45 and it's not a great feeling on a week when i have to be filmed close up to have this pimple that the the makeup person lisa god bless her was doing her absolute yeoman's best to shade and do all kinds of makeup tricks so that it was kind of de-emphasized there was a point on tuesday when we were filming where we're filming we're filming we're filming and then the director says okay hold on we're gonna cut here for a minute and then there's a quiet conversation i can't hear And then the makeup person, my friend Lisa, comes over and just goes to work on this pimple, which is my what I interpreted that to mean was. The director, my friend Kurt, was like, can you try to work on that situation, but didn't want me to feel embarrassed. So that's like all going on all day. And I'm probably over dramatizing it, but it looms very large. In fact, when I was talking about Marcus Aurelius on the show on Monday, when I was drunk on tiredness, and I was talking about anxiety, I swear to God, Andrew, what I was really thinking about was how I had felt all weekend watching this pimple develop.

And thinking about it in the context of what I was going to have to do for three days, which is have like no exaggeration, four to five different cameras zooming in very close to my face. And I was just like, really face? This is when you want to do this. So all of that is to say it gave me great comfort that when I would come over to your house to record the show, to record our shows after doing this all day. The one thing that I knew was there was no way you were noticing.

Oh, God, no.

Because that's just I just don't think you take in that kind of information. And it really did help me relax because I'd spent the whole day agonizing over just feeling kind of, you know, feeling embarrassed, frankly. And then I was like, but I'm going to go see my good friend, old face blind Walsh. And he is not going to notice or care about this pimple on my cheek. And so that really is something that gives me a little bit of comfort when we hang out.

Yeah, I, you know, I feel like, I do feel like I've got a bit of face blindness. What I'm about to say is probably ridiculous, and I will regret it in hindsight. I almost feel like there are two different issues with me, though. I feel like with me not noticing your appearance or your appearance in front of me, me looking you right in the eye and not recognizing you as my friend of 10 years. That's my request for almond milk. Dude, just take the almond milk. I'm drinking my tea. I feel like, I mean, it seems ridiculous. They got to be related. But, like, when I think of my face blindness, I mean I could be staring at a television and watching three men and halfway through the movie still be confused as to who's who. but that's not the same as this weird thing that I have where I also in real life sort of look through people and I probably have eye contact issues I don't think I'm very good at eye contact that's probably you've never said that specifically but I'm sure that's something that you've noticed of me and I'm sure that it comes from an inherent shyness and whatever else is going on with my with my emotional and mental makeup but I do you see how I almost think of them as two different

things right yeah no i i think i know what you're saying and i also think well i don't know i don't want to get into speculating because i don't know what goes on in your brain but it almost seems to me like well this is gonna make this is gonna make it sound like i think that you're like a real head case which i actually don't but it's almost like i feel like you you almost you you think overly studying someone's appearance it would be on some level a bit disrespectful because that's just you're not you don't define people or the world by things like that things that are so surfacy so maybe some part of you has just like trained yourself to kind of low-key that stuff you know what i mean like you're just i've never heard you describe someone based on their physical characteristics ever and i wonder if if if that's because of what you've described or if it's because something you've trained yourself to do so that that's not how you're how you're you know assessing people is based on their body shape or look or anything like that well i don't

Yeah, I don't know if I go with you all the way on that, although I don't have a better retort. And I'm not, you know, I'm not, I take no offense to what you said. I do think there's something about me, though, and I don't think it's about like, I don't think it's necessarily a respect thing or me trying to be proper in the world. I would probably reject that kind of wholesale. But looking back at the past, and I don't know if I can say this, but like when you're just talking about the sort of attraction, right? And when I say attraction, I mean, you know, kind of romantic attraction, I guess. But also just like if I'm judging somebody based on attraction, even if it's, you know, even if it's a guy and I'm not really attracted to guys. But if I'm going to say, oh, yeah, you know, I'll have a conversation with Genevieve about like, hey, isn't this person good looking? And she'll be like, oh, no, I don't think that he is traditionally handsome. I think what happens with me is I let and I'm not saying I've got a good eye for style, but whatever style I like over whatever kind of style I'm attracted to is much more important than like the physical characteristics. The best way I can put this without being rude about it is there were times in my life when I would have a really strong crush on somebody, let's say in college or something like that. Right. And you're just like, oh, man, that person is just like that person was so hot, you know, and like you go back later and you look at a photo and you're like, there's nothing traditionally beautiful about this person. Like and even for me, like I'm just not in that moment anymore. And you're like, wow, I I was not seeing this person the way the world probably sees this person. And maybe that's a good thing, you know, like we're all attracted to different things. But I do think it's kind of like if somebody let's just say the year is 1997 and a young woman walks into the party that I'm at, I'm in the corner talking.

about stressed like daria exactly i'm like in the game over talking about my new favorite band elevator to hell with ryan orvis and uh then somebody you know walks in with like you know with uh with doc martens on and her hair up in nubs or something like that and be like you know like that was a style that i'd be very attracted to at that time and so therefore like i don't even think my my face or like my brain would take in like attractiveness when you when you would maybe take away the style around it if that makes sense sure like it would yeah it was the the the vibe

if you will from a it's funny we've this topic has kind of been coming up a little bit over the last couple of weeks because we were talking about that kenny g documentary and how the director penny lane had said something that stuck out to me about how music is something that seems to kind of more outwardly define people or at least inform kind of a lot of stuff in their life like the outfits that we wear you know there's an outfit that you could wear or style of clothing that would indicate i listen to a certain kind of music and it does exist with other art forms but it's more subtle i think it's kind of where we were landing so we've been talking about this a lot but it sounds like what you're saying is if somebody walked into the party and their clothes signified that they were into the kind of stuff you were into that was a big deal to you and it almost superseded anything about their actual physical characteristics because the clothes were sending you or the hairstyle or the whatever was sending a big message to you yeah and i still

think i'm like that even though like i'm not you know necessarily you know i'm taken i'm not i'm not like out there on these streets looking looking to partner up you know but and i still think Genevieve and I and I can't I cannot remember who it was but we were just talking about somebody we're talking about a guy the other day like somebody who's like tangential to our friend group or something and I can't remember exactly how the conversation went down but I suddenly had to realize wait a second I'm confusing the fact that this person is really stylish and has a je ne sais quoi with what is actually just attractive if you were maybe flipping through photos. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? I don't think that I judge attractiveness necessarily well, or I guess I judge it in my own way, but it can be very much influenced by, yeah, the context, I guess.

But I like that about you. I think that's a nice thing, actually. And I will say that, like, this, you know, as i have been like feeling very kind of insecure and bummed out about like just the fact that my skin decided to be really weird and it's been going on for like the last few weeks um and like at that same time you know like somebody like becca uh is like hey i think you're really cute and i'm really like attracted to you and i and i you know what i mean like i like you and meanwhile i have like a big zit on my face but like she doesn't care because what whatever it is that is attractive about me to her is more than that and not based solely on that and i have a hard time kind of believing that i guess i have a hard time because i feel so kind of crummy internally about stuff that i have a hard time believing other people don't actually care about that that's not necessarily what defines if somebody is quote-unquote attractive or not you know what i mean it's like a lot of things and people are usually most of the time unless they're an extremely shallow person there and also follow up to this who flipping cares why is this such a thing in my mind that matters like if random people in the world would deem me to be quote-unquote attractive or not like why is that why does that matter in my life I don't understand but it's it's good for me to remember that like if I were to put on the right outfit Andrew you would have a crush

on me yeah that's what I was gonna say like not to be no matter what my skin was doing I don't care about your skin but i never said i liked your style dude i mean like well no i knew you weren't

talking about me when you said you were someone's style was so good that it made you think they were what dude i'm judging the hell out of you i'm just not judging your face like you have no idea exactly no you hurt my kind of j crew extremely basic extremely basic middle-aged dude uh fashion choices but but but again none of it is facial and i appreciate that about you so okay we should take a break. We've got some donors of the day to thank. We've got some Blur's Days. We've got some top stories. And we're going to get to all of it right after this. Alright, let's thank some donors of the day who are making today's show possible with their support. Andy, Soth in Madison, Wisconsin. I want to get back to Madison, Wisconsin. was there many years ago i think actually maybe we were doing wait wait don't tell me there or something but madison is uh is quite a lovely town have you spent any time in madison i don't

think so now um i think i've been to milwaukee a couple of times so i don't think madison is

madison the state capital it's a great question i think it's where the university of wisconsin is And so it has a real vibrant Kind of cultural scene And lots of interesting stuff going on Fun restaurants, bars, art spaces I think it's kind of considered a real gem In Wisconsin But I could not tell you off the top of my head

It is the capital And it says it is the seat of democracy I made that last part up

Okay I can't believe I'm going to do this Because I'm going to probably be wrong But do you know the largest city that is also a state capitol in the United States.

Oh, wow. Wow. This song isn't long enough. I want to take a stab at this. I assume that it would be cheating for me to look at a list of the state capitals. Right, of course. I'm going to say... I don't know if you would get this one.

I don't know if you'd get this instinctively.

I think... Let me take a stab. Let me take a stab. Let me take a stab. Boston.

All right. No Is Boston the capital of Massachusetts I don't think it is I think it's I think there's something else in Massachusetts That's the capital That's really embarrassing considering that I don't know It's the capital Maybe I got some bad intel Because I don't think This city is bigger than Boston Okay I'm throwing out Boston What is it Maybe they mean geographically It is, I believe it is Phoenix, Arizona I was told that Phoenix, Arizona Is the largest city That's also a state capital And it's also the largest city To not have an Amtrak station Oh really? Yeah We do something on Livewire Which we call station Station, location, identification Examination or something Where I basically quiz Elena About a city where we're on the radio And it was recently Phoenix, Arizona And those were the two facts that were provided to me from our producers But Boston, I mean that's shocking to me Because Boston seems like it has to be larger than Phoenix But maybe not, Phoenix might be a larger city by population than Boston

I am looking this up, sorry I was also looking up, I was trying to do too many things at once here This is the way we talk in Tucson, Arizona Population, okay What do you think, boy? Wow. It is not even close. It is not even close. Phoenix has such a bigger population than Boston.

Really?

I'm going to say this.

I guess I just, Boston is so culturally significant in this country, just in the work of the Affleck brothers. Affleck. Yeah. Just in bank robbing movies that, like, you know, where people are gritty. It's like that So I guess I sort of think of Boston as being Just like from population standpoint Just this like all like rivaling a New York But it's not it's just We always have to freaking hear about Bill Belichick and You know Harvard And I don't by the way that's a Terrible Boston It was a really fell apart at the end But there's just so much chatter around And peace and love we got a lot of listeners in Boston it's a great place But I think I have overestimated The population because of how I'm also It's also denser, though.

It's denser like a city, like an old-school city. Phoenix is so huge and sprawling. Now, I've been to Phoenix a couple of times. I have family that lives in Phoenix, but not downtown Phoenix. I can't picture downtown Phoenix, and I don't know what that's like, and I don't know what the real density centers there are. But Boston is a tight-knit East Coast city where everybody's tall buildings and people are living on top of each other as opposed to Phoenix, where it's just so spread out in the desert. And so I just want to ask you really quickly. So I'm going to tell you this. Boston has a population of 684,000 people, okay? 684,000. Keep that in your head. How many people do you think live in Phoenix knowing that Phoenix is bigger?

1.5 million?

1.6 million.

Very close. Yeah, so significantly bigger. I have a feeling the way they draw the boundaries, like you said, of phoenix is very different than how they draw the boundaries of boston i think that's true too yeah i'm sure you you're probably looking at like all of maricopa county is you know technically phoenix or something like that um but i think the um i you know i'm dreading the uh but you know I'm dreading the midterms. I'm dreading the next presidential election. But the one thing is I get to see Steve Kornacki. I know.

How is he doing with his – is he still doing his football stuff?

I don't know. The Seahawks haven't played a nationally televised game in a while. They keep getting flexed out of that. So I'm not watching when it would be possibly Kornacki time. I'm also staring at the top of a building here in Chicago, Andrew, which interestingly says Boston Store. So that's also kind of confusing my mind as we talk about. I'm starting to Every day when one of these coincidences happen Andrew I get a little closer Thanks Andrea Walden Of Port Orchard, Washington For supporting the program Let's also thank Kathleen Estes Of Olympia, Washington Thank you Kathleen For your support Also thanks to Jessamine Bateman Eno In Burien, Washington

Thank you Jessamine Burien. Where they once wanted to elect me mayor, I believe, after my performance. Burien is, your hosting of the Burien event is the pimple of your life. It is, the pimple of my life.

I spent all my time thinking about an unfortunate pimple that decided to emerge.

You will never, ever, ever be okay driving past, thinking about, or even hearing the word Burien. About the, what was it, a candidate forum that I was asked to moderate. I don't blame Jessamyn, by the way. Actually, seeing Jessamyn's name here, actually, this is a way of me, like maybe it makes me feel good about Burien again. By the way, I never felt bad about Burien. I felt bad about what I did to the people of Burien who were in the room that night.

Jessamyn is giving so much to the show because not only are they donating money, But they're donating a rehabilitative They're rehabilitating your relationship with the whole city Exactly Thank you Thank you Jessamine Alex Booth Nobody could rehabilitate my relationship with Seattle, Washington But Alex is trying That's where Alex is checking in from Thank you Alex for supporting the show And then Ginny Davies is in Mount Lake Terrace, Washington When I was a kid There was a place called the Mountlake Terrace Pavilion I'm sure it's still there It's probably still called that And they had a boss swimming pool And it was kind of a little far from our house So it was not an every week thing But every once in a while there'd be a birthday party Where I would somehow trick my mom into driving us up to the Mountlake Terrace Pavilion And it was so cool Nice It's also so cool that Ginny is there supporting us in Mountlake Terrace Thanks Ginny Thanks to all of our donors of the day for making TBTL possible. Wouldn't be here without you.

But everything's gonna be all right. Thank you, baby. There's a right way to rock and a wrong way to roll. You can't just listen to your soul. Just remember that life is number one You can be having so much fun Just remember that life is much fun You can be number one

I know what you're thinking. Wait, did the file skip? I was listening. They were talking about these top stories, and then all of a sudden it was the blurs days. Well, we ran out of time. I'm sorry. But tomorrow we will talk about everything going on in Scandinavia and maybe even what's going on in Saudi Arabia with these camels that are getting Botox to try to win a beauty contest. Those are all – the words I just said are actual things that are printed in the news that happened. So, yeah, we will get to most of that tomorrow. For right now, though, we need to celebrate the blurs of some of these tens of listeners, Andrew.

That's right. Let's start with Sasha, who says, I'd like to give a happy blurs a shout-out to my longest-running co-bro in life, Andy, who turns 39 today. Today, in actual blurs, Luke. Andy is a world-class botany professor. All right. You don't have to make the rest of us feel bad for being dummies. whenever I see anybody who's like you know successful and smart it just makes me feel bad about myself but I shouldn't put that on Andy on his blurs day right he didn't become a botany professor just to make me feel less about myself

no but he became world class to make me feel worse about myself

anyone can be a botany professor

but to actually take it to the level of being world class that is actually Thank you. specifically to make you feel worse about yourself.

Well, you know what, Andy? I'm a world-class dingus, so there. Andy is a world-class botany professor, an amazing dad to Henry, and future dad to Dweezel or Dweezelina. Did I pronounce it? Let's see. Dweezelina. Dweezelina.

It's either going to be Dweezy or Dweezelina. You can't lose. Are they really going with that? Boy, that is some real, those are some real Zappa heads. I love it. There in the Sasha and Andy household.

That's right. And Sasha says to Andy, hope your birthday is gnarly dick. Lots of love, your wife, Sasha.

Cute. I'm going to bring that gnarly dick drop back. I love that one. Is that Huey Lewis? Yeah. Huey Lewis. Huey Lewis, as my mom would say, probably. Let's see. Who do we have next here? Did I actually do that? Did I accidentally delete the blurs from my phone? I've got it now. It's Emma and Maxie who would like to wish Natalie the blursiest of blurs days. We want everyone to know that dog that is barking, that is not my dog.

Sorry, I couldn't not say it.

Love you. I couldn't not say it with you. I had to bring that drop back, too.

I know. I love it. So many drops. Happy Blurs Day, Natalie. Anne in Oklahoma says, my 10-pail Natalie. This is the same Natalie. This has got to be the same Natalie.

What's interesting is Emma and Maxie went in a kind of dog-related direction. Anne seems to be giving some info on Natalie's whereabouts.

Yeah, so assuming this is the same Natalie, which I'm going to buy into that, my 10-pail Natalie has moved from Minneapolis to Japan for work. only to return next summer I don't have her new address yet so all communications are done in 2021 I'm using imaginary radio to wish her a happy blursday in lieu of a snail mail happy birthday Natalie or in Japanese it's pronounced now it's written out here phonetically but I don't have emphasis like emphases if that makes sense so would it be Tanjobi Omedito Tanjobi Omedito

That's exactly what I said

Happy birthday Natalie That's no mountain too tall in Japanese Oh

Did you just translate that now

Or is this an old file that you have on your computer

It's an old file I was looking to see if we had any Because of course this show Was once we were attempting to be Japan's number one morning show Because that's when we were on Over in Japan And so I was thinking I could find Something where we were using Japanese language and I just found this Computer file of, clearly it's just like Probably a Google Translate To No Mountain Too Tall

It's almost amazing how far How far the text to speech Has come Just in the 10 years of doing this show Right, like now if you were to do that you could choose Like from 800 different voices You know, with various

I could have Master Chief do it Who's that? Is that from a rapper? What's that video game where the guy's Master Chief? I don't know. The listeners are so mad. It's like one of the biggest Halo. The main guy in Halo is named Master Chief. I have no idea. When you get on Waze, it will be like, ride with Master Chief.

I didn't know that.

The guy from the video game will be the one telling you how to get where you're going. I mean, it's just ridiculous. I think you can probably have The Rock. What about Mario?

Hey, it's me, Mario. When you said Master Chief video game, I thought for sure you were talking about some end boss on Contra or something. Some video game from the 80s.

God.

I want to get one of those emulators that has Contra on it. Sit around playing Contra. I also want to say a happy Blur's Day to Josh from Karen. Karen says, I'd like to wish my husband, Josh, a happy 36th Blur's Day. He's going to think I forgot to write in, so I'm looking forward to seeing him laugh when he hears this. Happy Blur's Day, Josh. Karen didn't forget.

Yeah, Josh. Joke's on you. Karen did not forget. Catherine says, happy 12th Blur's Day to my super kind, hardworking Lola. I know this birthday will be much better than 11 was. no drive-through COVID testing no coming up positive no quarantine oof yeah that sounds like a hell of an 11th birthday but 12 is going to be better I hope you have a fantastic day and a really good party love mom, dad, Quentin, Willow, and Eddie and it just occurred to me, Luke

That I swore in this Blur's Day message to a child named Lola. Did you? I think I said the H-E double hockey sticks a minute ago, didn't I?

Oh, I don't think we consider that swearing anymore, do we?

We don't consider that swearing anymore? I don't know.

No, I thought you said like the C word or something. Why would he do that in the Blur's Day message? Alan in Sacramento says, says, Cleo just informed me that she forgot to send in a Blur's Day request for me, which makes sense, since she's a dog. Is there still time, or does she need to get back into the DeLorean and power up the time circuit? That'd be really impressive for a dog. That would be amazing. She'd be like the, what was the dog? I think the dog was named Laika, the first dog that the Russians shot into space. This would be the Laika of time travel. Now, I know that we're in the midst of the blurs here and kind of running a little short on time. I've still got to write my bluff the listener story, et cetera. But I was flipping the channels in the hotel in Seattle earlier this week. And I was looking at the guide, and it happened to be a channel that was playing Back to the Future. And the way – I thought of this because of the DeLorean reference in Alan's blurs. and it said something to the effect of a teenager fixes his family with the help of a crackpot, the help of, like, a local crackpot. And I was like, that's not fair to Christopher Lloyd's character. That's not fair to Doc Brown. Would you consider Doc Brown a local crackpot?

Yeah, I'd consider him the quintessential crackpot. Like, everybody in town, like, whether or not it's fair, I feel I feel like it's a fair description of the plot like this is a man who ever you assume that everybody in town sees him as some crackpot some zany guy who you know might be smart underneath all of that but is doing weird experiments you know wasn't he like trying to read it doesn't he at one point have like a mind reading metal belt on a dog's head or something am I making that part up I believe he does no I does so you know so well my friend you have a future in writing

the descriptions of old movies on the cable guide at the Residence Inn in the U District.

One of my favorite new little weird streaming services new-ish is called Crackle. It's just one of those, I don't know if it's not NBC, but it's one of those services that is basically an outgrowth of some production company or some network where it's just like they have the rights to a whole bunch of stuff so they just throw it up there. But the premise behind Crackle is the descriptions will always say why it crackles. And it'll be a little reason why they consider this thing to be crackle-worthy, which is one of my favorite things. I like that.

You know, Crackle has been around for a bit, though. That's where Comedians in Cars with Coffee started. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right. And it was such a hit. And it was such a hit. I heard Seinfeld, I believe, on The Stern Show talking about how Crackle was sort of the only place that wanted the idea of Comedians in Cars, and then it was this massive success, and then Crackle could no longer afford Comedians in Cars getting coffee. Oh, where did it move? I forget. Maybe Netflix or something. I think probably Netflix. But I guess I had to sort of respect Seinfeld's honesty because my memory is Stern said something like, well, they believed in you early, so even though they didn't have as much money as the other networks, should you consider just re-upping with them And Seinfeld just was quiet for a minute. He goes, absolutely not. He said they flew me. I think they said they flew him to L.A. to have a meeting of the negotiation for the re-upping of Comedians in Cars. And they were and basically their sales pitch was we can't pay as much as the other people, but you like us. Right. And he said, yeah, I think you're great. Also, we're taking the show to Netflix. It was so kind of cold, but I was like, hey, I guess he's being honest.

By the way I'm on the Crackle website Now you might have heard some of the audio Leaking through there a second ago And I just clicked on one of the first titles I saw Something called An Angel for May I have no idea what this is But the very first thing Oh I see it's something I guess a show from 2002 The very first thing it says Why it crackles It crackles because this is the Tom Wilkinson time machine drama Your heart has been asking for Have you heard of this An Angel for May I like Tom Wilkinson by the way

I have not heard of that. An Angel for May sounds like a Hallmark Channel movie or something.

Yeah, okay, here it is. Series description. Are we doing Blur's Days? Series description. This family-friendly miniseries tells you.

Tells the tale of a young boy who is transported from the present, and again, this was made in 2002, transported from the present to World War II-era England, where he attempts to record events and change history. Wow. Never heard of this. I could kind of get into that. Yeah, I could see that.

I mean, it's a Tom Wilson time machine drama. Well, I mean, that's why I liked, you know, Quantum Leap. And, of course, I loved the Back to the Future movies, which is how this whole thing started. And even, I didn't watch it, but I was intrigued by the premise. I think there was a show called Early Edition, which I think had Kyle Chandler in it. And the premise was he would get the newspaper before anyone else. The newspaper would tell him what was going to happen. Then he had to go try to fix it. I love those kinds of premises. I probably would be into that show.

Trying to see why that crackles. I'll have to look that up later. Let's get back to these Blur's Days. Andy says, it's my girlfriend Christina's birthday. I'm not sure how this whole Blur's Day thing works, but I know what I want to say. Christina, I hope you have a Gabagood birthday. Hey, where's the freaking Gabagood? Love you. You're Andy.

Aww. Aww. Cute and delicious. People are sending me this TikTok video of a guy who brought his own Gabagool on the plane. Oh, I saw that, yeah. I mean And I have to say I have to say It looked pretty delicious I didn't like that character

I went into his other Profile stuff I don't know

Oh really I only That was the only one That I watched Yeah I didn't feel He was a kindred spirit Yeah With me outside of Just the fact that He was referencing Gabagool Which is a big thing On our show these days Probably blew my algorithm Michael says I just wanted to send I just wanted to send A happy Blur's Day To my five Lydia Oh Luke has referred to her in the past as Lydia the Younger or Lydia the Less Dead. Jesus, Luke. What were you doing? Well, first of her name, Lydia the Less Dead from House Lydia. This was to avoid confusion with other Lydia's. She just turned nine. She is an amazing, kind, and talented person, and we are very proud of the person she is becoming. I love you, DJ Liddy Lids. That's a good name, DJ Liddy Lids.

Much better than Lydia the Less Dead. Yeah. Marshall and Melanie in San Francisco say, we'd like to wish a belated happy Blurzay to friend of the show, Priscilla in San Francisco. We know Priscilla. You're a wonderful, generous friend, an amazing upstairs neighbor, and plant sitter. We're always awed and inspired by your artistic endeavors. As are we, by the way, as are we Priscilla is an amazing artist Happy Blur's Day Priscilla

I'll see all of you down in San Francisco Next week when I am Actually swimming in the bay It's actually happening They got the proper security clearance And I am Happy Blur's Day everyone Not to grab the camera And focus it back on me, Andrew But I had a conversation with the producer For the piece yesterday i'm i'm rarely like actually nervous for my safety when i'm doing these things because mostly i'm in like a candy factory or something but i was like our camera crew is going to be in a boat right and he's like yeah and i was like if i get too cold i can grab onto the boat and he's like yeah i think so i was then i was thinking like but if i'm so cold that i can't swim anymore if i'm hypothermic can i pull myself into a boat i don't know if i could do that on a good day You know what I mean? Like, like get myself out of the water into a like a rowboat. Like, I don't know if I have the upper body strength for that. If it's not the water is not 52 degrees or whatever it's going to be. So I'm going to trust that these people are able to do this all year round and they survive it. And our producer, Anthony, has done this already a couple of weeks ago. But I am of a growing sense of nervousness. Anyway, I look forward to Marshall and Priscilla. And was it Melanie, I believe? all just standing on the shore with blankets ready to warm me up

when I get out of there because I'm going to need some help. Are you with me? Do you feel that listeners don't swaddle us enough? They coddle us, but they don't swaddle us enough, right?

I'm like a newborn. I need to be swaddled. If I keep going with this analogy, it's going to sound a little bit too forward. But you know the real swaddling thing, right, with babies and they're like their moms and that whole thing. Did you say Melody or Melanie before?

I'm not sure if we missed it or not. I think I said Melanie. Yeah, it's Melanie. Anyway, sorry. I just wanted to make sure that we're getting that right. Swaddling, I just know that I always think of it as kind of like we always used to say like thunder shirting, you know, thunder. shirt yeah i would like but there's a lot of skin on skin contact oh yes part of the whole deal right so like it's a lot of you know my my sister liz was a doula and uh would advise uh you know her clients on that being really good for the baby to to to to swaddle them it's feels great to them it's comforting it does a bunch of things it releases various you know brain chemicals and you have to have them just if you can right up against your skin my point is i don't know if the listeners want to do that with us i'm not ruling it out i'm open to it but i feel like you know i feel like it's asking a lot of them we already ask so much yeah no you're probably right

and also we might be kind of walking a line here you know what i mean i don't know like i don't know do you think that like um nora do you think that she like swaddles her listeners i could see that being something kind of emotionally does she actually does i was trying as i was saying that i'm like that's a bad example but then i was thinking about the kids programming i was like Well, actually, we do swaddle children, so then I just punted.

I think that this is as good a time as any for us to wrap things up today, for us to swaddle things up on this Thursday and call it good, and then we'll be back here tomorrow with more of this imaginary radio. Do you have thoughts on a song to go out with?

I was talking about Thunder, so, of course, I was thinking Thunderstruck by ACDC, but I feel like we're always going out with ACDC songs, so I would prefer not to do that.

There's a clap your hands say yeah song That involves the word thunder Isn't there

Let me look Some loud thunder it's called Some loud thunder Is that the name of the whole album Yep first song though Some loud thunder I don't know it but I'm happy to play it I feel like how long is the first song It is 17 minutes

No it's just 345 Okay because The thing about this album is And I wonder if you have albums that are like this for you, Andrew I love, love, love Clap Your Hands, Say Yeah And I love this record But it's got this kind of like interstitial little songs That are almost like, sound like a carnival barker Singing about clapping your hands And they do not work for me And I'm always just like, how does the same amazing brain That made these songs that I love so much Also decide to put this kind of, I don't know Again, carnival music in there So I'm hoping that this is not the carnival song

Okay, well let's take a little bit of a little sample here Oh no, that sounds great

Well that's not Is that off of Some Loud Thunder? This is the song Some Loud Thunder off of Some Loud Thunder?

I am confused I must be thinking of a different album It also sounds very distorted to me But I assume that's the production I've had so many kind of audio issues today. I don't know what to trust anymore. I'm falling apart here. I'm absolutely falling apart.

I'm not helping you being in Chicago on a crummy, on a fairly crummy internet connection. Let me just see. Clap your hands. I'm trying to find. Oh, you know what, Andrew? I led you very wrong, my friend. I was thinking they do have a song, Some Loud Thunder off the album, Some Loud Thunder, which you're playing the exact right thing of. What I am a fan of is their eponymous album. album okay is that the yellow one say yeah that was a very famous one yeah that one was could we i know we've moved far afield from thunder but could we uh maybe play uh let the cool goddess rust away we certainly can thank you and again andrew you don't don't don't beat up on my good friend andrew uh i have been uh challenging your your your incredible ability to piece together The words that I'm saying when they're in the wrong order because of our internet connection, you've done an absolute yeoman's job today. So thank you for that.

I'll try. Only for funsies. I'll try to post at the end of the show today a little bit of what you sounded like when we were trying to talk earlier.

Oh, man. All right. Well, thank you for your help today, Andrew. Thanks, everyone, for listening. I'll be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you. Hopefully the internet will be a little bit more helpful. Until then, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourselves. And please remember, No Mountain Too Tall. I was going to try to find the Japanese version, but I couldn't. No Mountain Too Tall. And good luck to you all.

We'll be right back.

We'll be right back.

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Power out.