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hello everyone welcome to day two of the tbtl winter games i'm luke burbank right over there my friend andrew walsh how is your holiday shopping going andrew actually um

I did a pretty good job with holiday shopping this year. Now, here's the deal. I've made it very easy on myself by being a bad friend and family member.

I usually just shop. Yeah, the nature of my question is, have you gotten me that special thing you know I've been wanting? Yes, the car. Have you looked in your driveway recently?

Do you have a driveway?

Is it the one with a bow on it?

It's the one with a bow on it. Yes, it's the Matchbox car. This is a December to remember. It really is. Were you a Matchbox guy or a Hot Wheels guy? Or did you not mess around with toy cars as a kid?

I didn't have a, like, I wasn't brand loyal. I was just into whatever I could get my hands on. And I didn't have much of a collection, but I remember having a few. Like, I think I had, like, a, I don't know if it was Matchbox or Hot Wheels, but it was something that looked, I think, like the kit from Knight Rider. Ooh, okay, nice. So I was very into that. I knew some of them, the doors opened on some of those cars. I had some of those, yep. Did that, was that a Matchbox thing or a Hot Wheels thing?

I don't know for sure, but I will tell you that I was a big Matchbox kid. I think I might have had one hot wheel, just one wheel. It was hot. It was too hot to handle. And, no, I was very much into Matchbox, and I even had a Matchbox carrying case. It was like a little suitcase, so I could look like a little business person going to play with his car somewhere. It had two. I can still feel the plastic bins I would take. I loved my Matchbox collection so much, Luke. I mean, looking back, and I haven't thought about this in a really long time, but looking back, this was the beginning of me then later on obsessing over cassette tapes and CDs and meticulously rearranging them in different ways. And you're right. At first, the killer app were the doors that would open on it. That was really cool. later on now I don't know if this was matchbox brand or if it was a completely different brand but near the end of my car collecting days they have these little cars that were about the size of a hot wheels or a matchbox only there was a part of the car that you could quote-unquote damage so if you bash the cars together it would trigger something and then like that part of the car would like in this case I'm thinking about a car door it would flip around and it would look Like, the car had been into an accident.

I don't know if I had one of those, but I definitely saw them and played with them. I had friends that had them, and we just thought that was the most amazing technology.

Yeah, yeah.

I had some good toys. Very smart. Yeah, they figured out, like, you know what? You know what young kids want, particularly young boys? They want to damage shit. They want to bash it together. They want to see it reflected in the vehicle. So they were able to resell pretty much all the same body types, but just with this new special spring loaded activated thing, which which I just thought was the coolest.

I kind of wish I had my car still. I mean, I'm usually very happy that I haven't carried a lot of as nostalgic as I am. I'm not somebody who has like, you know, I know my parents have a few things of mine in their attic in, you know, in the suburbs of Cleveland, but not very much. uh maybe a box or two and i just move so much or i have traditionally moved so much in my life that i didn't like i just didn't keep stuff like that to move from apartment to apartment to apartment so i don't know where my cars ended up going i my guess is they were sold off at one of the garage sales that we probably had in eighth grade really yeah i would guess so but i don't i hope we sold

it wholesale i don't know you don't think that uh you know one of your parents just like they seem so like they seem so uh attached to your childhood that i think that they'd put them you know they would be in the attic somewhere like that seems like a thing that would be only because when you sell your kids matchboxes or give them away their you know and it was matchbox right not hot wheels it just feels like you're sort of also parting with their childhood which can be hard for parents I would my guess would be that it's possible that those got saved, but maybe not. Maybe people were less precious.

Yeah, no, my parents. I mean, I don't know if I agree with the assessment. I mean, they're they're parents. They they I think probably have the usual attachment to our childhood. I know my mom sent me a bunch of photos recently because she was moving. But like, I don't think that they you know, they haven't they're probably like me. And maybe that's where I get my kind of non hoarding sort of almost to a problematic degree where I just am so quick to get rid of things. Also, I might have just decided, you know, like.

We moved our first house when I was in about eighth grade and I could see myself being like, well, I don't play with toys anymore and just like throwing them out in the yard sale. You know, I read something the other day.

I know we need to get to the quiz, but I read something the other day that made me like I feel like it's almost a dangerous article for them to put out into the news because it will drive a lot of potential hoarding behaviors or at least it makes it feel like you should never throw out anything again. And it's the story of this guy in the UK somewhere who was organizing his house and threw out a computer and on the hard drive was saved his key code, his password for crypto, and it's a half a billion dollars of crypto, and it's in a landfill. And he has now spent years obsessively gridding and searching, like, this dump, trying to figure out where his half a billion dollars is. It's very Gollum in the ring, actually.

Did you end up – I saw that headline. I didn't read it.

I just saw the headline and then, like, read a blurb. I didn't read the full article.

I almost sent it to you because it was similar because you and I also did another person who, like, basically – They have, like, two guesses left. Exactly. They forgot their Bitcoin password, and it's completely unforgiving the process of, like, of forgetting your password in these situations. So that person has one or two guesses left before they're locked out forever. And I was like, ah, this is another similar story.

yeah i i i read that and i thought the most recent one and i just thought like i'm never throwing a computer i don't even have any crypto that's not true i think i have twenty dollars whatever's left on my coinbase account but you should open it up i'd love to know you

have a new phone i don't think that app is on your phone anymore but i'd be interested in do you because you had you did this so coinbase was a sponsor of tbtl i'm buying you a little bit of time here if you don't mind um and in case you are looking and you threw in i think like a minimal amount right like twenty dollars or something like that like you didn't or was it even up to a hundred i think it might have been twenty bucks yeah it was very low but then you watched it kind of blossom and then yeah shrink again and back and forth back and forth but we haven't checked in i love the fact that it was such a tiny little bit of seed money that this

is a really fun thing to check in on yeah it was i think it i'm forgetting but i think it was twenty that maybe they just start the account with. I don't even remember ever putting my own money into it. I think it might have been literally like $5 that went up to $200, which tells you about how explosive and maybe unsustainable the kind of growth of crypto was. And then it sort of went back down. And I think it's at about 86 bucks now, roughly. Now, I have a little bit of other money in there because, and I can't get specific, but a friend of ours who's some kind of a crypto, crypto master is involved in this new project and uh they were um saying hey if you know to our friend group if you want to jump in on this there's going to be some kind of early availability etc and so i did put a little bit of money in there so that when that happens i can uh my only request was i'm going to invest a little i mean we're talking about a very small amount of money but i'm investing a very small amount of money in this as long as i'm not required to understand anything you're talking about. And this person said, you don't have to understand. And I said, when has this ever gone wrong on an episode of American Greed? Take my money. I don't need to know how any of this works. That's always the beginning of a profitable and reliable financial relationship.

Absolutely. Yes. Whatever you're saying, if I give you my money, will you stop talking now? You know, it's a good investment.

Anyway. Okay. Let's see here. Let's do this. Let's go to our break right now And then when we come back We will jump into this next quiz Which actually I don't know anything about Andrew It's submitted by the listener Farron That's what I know about

It's less of a knowledge quiz like yesterday's Instead it's a personality quiz It's the personality of our relationship We're going to play a version of the newlywed game To see how much we actually know about each other And I've got to say As you were telling that story About your investment I was looking ahead at these questions and I have a pit in my stomach that is so deep and painful right now I am a terrible friend but we're going to ask each other some questions about each other should we have done this as our

final winter game I feel like this is early in the process for us to realize that we're not you know as good of friends as we should be or something yeah okay I'm okay

we're going to get into this

alright we're going to do it right after this Stay with us. It's TBTL. Ah, yes. The pedal steel stylings of our listener and friend Brian here.

portland brian dast that's off of pedal steel christmas an album that he put out a few years ago which i love and is in heavy rotation come holiday time i probably said this last time we played it but there is almost nothing i love more than the sound of a pedal steel guitar

oh maybe that's something i could use in this newlywed quiz we're about to take oh yeah i'm not joking man i'm looking at these so here's how this is going to work okay so like you said This is from our friend, listener Farron.

Farron. We saw Farron in San Diego, in Oceanside, to be specific.

In Oceanside, which, am I allowed to say this? It was put out there on the public social media waves. So, of course, we met Farron because we were doing a show in our friend Lisa's driveway, listener Lisa, who is down there in Oceanside. I saw that Lisa is about to become a, what do we call the 10, a Chicago 10. Oh. Chicago 10? I don't know if there's a name for that. Chi 10? Chi 10? But now that guy, I immediately thought, but what about Farron? Farron, have you considered moving to Chicago?

Keep the crew. I'm just going to have to now. Keep the crew together. They have an amazing friendship to me, which may have come up during that TBTL-a-thon week on air, or maybe not. but they were both in the same comment section talking about their experience at a concert. I forget who the band was, but it was like the kind of thing where you could say, oh, it was a good show or, you know, whatever. I wish they would have played this song. And they kept seeing each other. Maybe this was multiple concerts. And then at some point, I think Listener Lisa had a ticket to something and an extra ticket and said to Farron, I've seen you in the comment section. We should go together. I want to say it might have even been Lyle Lovett, But I don't know. Don't hold me to that. And then they went to the show together and and then they became fast friends.

And now Lisa is abandoning her. Yeah, I know. Coldly like that. That's the thing. No, actually, I don't want to even tease about that because I do wonder if that's a little sad making for them. But yeah. So listener Farron, apparently you and I maybe made a reference to this at some point. So Farron wanted to help us along. It's a little kind of get it. Well, it's a how well do Luke and Andrew know each other after all these years? Farron sent us in some good newlywed game style questions to find out. And I've got this list here. It's pretty long. We're not going to even try to get through them all. We'll just pick a few here. And then I think, I mean, there's no need to probably go into our secret corners and write down an answer and then see if we're right or wrong. I think we should probably just start biting off these questions and chewing on them a little bit. Like, here's an easy one. I think we can start with this one.

who has game show music um what is the newlywed game music sound like i don't know i just have this one so okay that's good is this too is this too funky wow it's a little funky that's pretty

funky it's funky i like it what did you play the divorce song because i don't know if our relationship is going to survive this newlywed oh no um okay here so this is kind of interesting Okay, here's an easy one at least for you to answer about me, but it's a good example of what we're trying to get at here. What is their go-to karaoke song? So when you say they, I would have to know what is your go-to karaoke song, and you would want to guess what is my go-to karaoke song. Now, I'm making this very easy on you.

Right, because you don't have – you wouldn't do karaoke. but if you were to if it was the world's strangest robbery where instead of robbing you they were just putting a gun to your head and saying you must do karaoke at the Baranoff we'd all go what's their angle, what do they get out of this but we got past that

and I would also have to decide what is worse honestly because people survive gunshot wounds you'd be surprised I don't even know what mine would be so I'd be interested in hearing

well if I guess and he gets close How about Let me think of a

Because there is a song that people There's a song out there That I do like that is corny That is a very kind of famous Go to karaoke song but I would not Do it because I know because it is so There's one that People for years and years have said oh if you did karaoke You would do this song but the truth is I wouldn't because it's too on the nose And it's done by too many drunk people Sweet Caroline No I was trying to think of done by too many drunk people. Of course, I hope I'm right about that clue, given that I haven't spent a lot of time in karaoke clubs.

See, because I was thinking maybe one of your, like, beloved ballads. Again, this is a universe in which you're being threatened with possible death. So everything's on the table. I mean, I was thinking maybe, you know, didn't we almost have it all? Or something from the McDonald's rock and gold. Or, yeah.

Or what's that song by Bette Midler now?

We're not really playing the game, but some say love. Oh, The Rose. The Rose. I thought you were going to say Wind Beneath My Wings, which is also by Bette Midler.

Yeah, no, that's good. The problem is I'd have to be a good singer to do those. So if I really had to do karaoke, I'd probably try to find something that's maybe more talky, right?

Well, you know what you're really good at, even though you're always using it as a way of saying you hate it, is when you do your fake doo-wop. high low guy yeah but i don't i don't know any actual songs i could i know but i could just freelance it well no just doing a doo-wop song even when you're not that familiar with because it just could give you a chance to do that high low guy voice which i feel like yeah yeah i'm not

a lot of people would have guessed by the way or in my past have said like if you did karaoke you do What's Up by Four Non-Blondes. I wouldn't because, again, I think it's kind of an irritant to a lot of people. I think too many people have done it. But I mean, people associated me with that song for a long time because I was a defender of it, a non-ironic defender of that song. I do like that song.

I think you were ahead of the curve on that because I remember when that song started popping up at karaoke, I remember being kind of a little bit surprised because I didn't have a really strong affection. I didn't dislike the song I just didn't have a strong thought on that song When it came out Other than Linda Perry's particular fashion In the video was not my fashion I believe it's some sort of leather Top hat or something It was a little steampunky A little Burning Man-y for me Anyway, I didn't think of it one way or the other And then all of a sudden I just started hearing people do it at karaoke And now I feel like In fact Did we hear that? Becca and I were in Chicago and went to a karaoke place that I had been to 10 years previously when we did TBTL Live in Chicago called Alice's Lounge. And I didn't sing or anything, but I do think somebody might have done What's Going On, or whatever. What's that song called? What's Up, I believe is the actual title. What's Up, yeah, yeah.

Okay, so any guesses on what my song would be? So now I have to guess yours. I think I know. I have it queued up here. I think it's pretty obvious. Dude. It's not, but it should be I know you've done this before This is XTC, the mayor of Simpleton You did this at a private karaoke room That we were in one time I think with your Livewire friends And I thought it was an interesting poll I know this isn't your number one go-to But I didn't really know that you dabbled In the works of XTC And I don't think I ever, up to that point or since Heard anybody do XTC In a karaoke situation

i can't sing along because there's about a one second delay so i'll be out of time with it but i had a big xtc phase by which i mean i really liked three of their songs i liked the ballad of peter pumpkinhead oh yeah the mayor of simpleton and dear god i don't know and there's god but i know it's a big one for him but and i i just liked i just liked their music um even though it's not it's not typically the stuff i would go for but i really liked xtc and i must have been i must have burned through all of my more typical go-tos you know i haven't really done karaoke in so long i mean i guess i did one song camaro and genevieve and i went to the baron off i can't remember what i did it was probably bad oh i think i did um cherry bomb by uh john cougar mellencamp or whatever his name is these days and uh but generally speaking i haven't done karaoke in a long time i lost my i lost my verve for it and so i don't feel like i really have a go-to song but what would it have been during the peak of your you must have had a song that was your number one run around sue oh run around sue by dion and what i liked about that song was nobody ever does it it's short it's like a minute and 40 seconds so it's just enough time for everyone to get into it everyone's reaction to it usually is like oh i forgot about this song I love this song it gives people a good feeling And then it's over very quickly So that's kind of my that's my default But then other than that

Can I say something really annoying about that song Because I'm going to get on my Feminist Platform here but like even I swear even as a kid even before Long before I would ever say I was a Feminist I remember because I loved Oldies right but I couldn't Believe that the guy who sang The Wanderer Which is about a guy who is basically the male version of Runaround Sue also has a song called Runaround Sue where he's basically slut-shaming this woman for being the Wanderer. Do you see what I'm saying? Two songs, one about a guy who goes around and just tries to, you know, get as much loving as he can and that's celebrated under the Wanderer but then Runaround Sue, she's doing the same thing and uh-oh, stay away from Runaround Sue.

Don't ruin this for me, because my other song I had was Ignition the Remix by R. Kelly. What's wrong with that? I see nothing wrong with that. Which is off the list. All I have left is Run Around Sue. I didn't realize those were both Dion songs.

It would be embarrassing if I'm wrong about that. But it will also give the listener something to write in about.

No, I think you're probably not.

Okay, so there you go. Oh, did you look it up? Okay, Run Around Sue and The Wanderer.

Well, you know, it's funny. I think The Wanderer and The Wanderer is off of the album Runaround Sue look at that he didn't even put space between it it's not even like he was evolving with time no it's a double standards maybe it was yeah maybe that was a concept album of course yeah about him loathing himself maybe he's Runaround Sue

he's playing a character he's playing a character

yeah and did you ever think that he's playing a character who slut shames

I love it

we've gotten through one of these questions so far so this is going fast what's the next one did we win Are we married?

I think so. I love you more than I did before. Okay, well, that's good. What is their biggest fear? I think I know this about you. I think I have yours. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Okay, you go first. I was just going to go first because you went first last time. I was going to give you a little bit more time. But I think your biggest fear, or certainly one of your biggest fears, one that should fit this question nicely, I think is sharks. You're scared of sharks even in swimming pools.

Correct. I do. Again, this is where the timing of the recording of these things gets a little bit challenging, but as we're recording this, I am on the eve of going up to or down to San Francisco and doing this cold water swim, which the cold I'm a bit concerned about, but the shark situation I'm very concerned about, and I happen to see some project in the northeast that has tagged a bunch of great whites. There are tons of great whites that are off the coast of the northeast, and so I went on their map, and then I scrolled over to the west. They clearly haven't tagged any sharks in the West, or there are zero Great Whites off the coast of California, which I hope is the case. Yeah. I'm hoping that this is not the time of year they want to be there, but I am a bit afraid of sharks. I know what yours is, and that would be heights. Yeah, it's got to be up there.

It's tough with me because I am scared of so much. You know, Genevieve says my biggest – she just said this weekend something about my biggest fear is of cheese, which I don't consider that a fear necessarily. Although the idea – one time Genevieve, I mean a long, long time ago, she did slap me with a piece of cheese and I almost broke up with her. I mean this was probably in our first year or two of dating and that was an affront. So maybe in a certain way I do have an irrational fear of cheese. Of course if I have one, it's because she abused me with a piece of cheese by slapping me in the cheek with it. But yeah, Heights has got to be – it's got to be the thing that is the most debilitating probably as far as getting in the way of me doing things.

i started following i didn't follow him but i looked at the tiktok page of somebody yesterday and true that even for me i was like i need to not look at this because this is nightmare fuel it's one of these parkour folks i i want to say he's in paris and he's clearly rigged up some kind of camera that he wears on his body or on his head so that he can do his normal parkour thing And it's and it's like a perspective. It's his perspective. And this person is jumping around on these. It's not even on the roof. Like you think of the roof of a kind of large apartment building. It's pretty flat. You would be pretty scared if you were near the edge. But it's it doesn't feel inherently unsafe. imagine just little small um like i guess you would you would call it a um uh what's the name for a uh uh when you cut into a roof and you pop it up a little bit dormer like these are little imagine 200 feet off the ground in paris these little dormers that just go over say like the the bedroom window of an apartment he's jumping from dormer to dormer just running around leaping and every time I'm thinking he's going to slip and die and he doesn't but I can't imagine this guy as long for this planet with what he's doing but it's so you're so in his world and I really said I got to stop watching these because these will go into my subconscious and then I will have a dream that I am having to do this or some version it's going to be unpleasant for me yeah no that sounds that sounds

absolutely awful you just describing that gave me kind of a physical reaction so yeah I think you're right about that sharks you have another one though to don't you don't you have something that's kind of up there like sharks with lasers on their head maybe i'm wrong about real intimacy the the idea that people will stop paying attention um no right hurtful all right here having my feelings hurt by andrew that's one of my top one my one of my biggest fears is saying a line like that and not hearing you laugh that was rough there for a Here, how about we maybe... close that with I don't know maybe you don't have to close that I don't mean to rush this too much but here's one because I think I have the answer for you but I don't even know if I know the answer for me on this one and I'd love to hear uh maybe you can tell me what is their most prized possession or the item they'd save in a fire now would you mind if I go first on this one yeah first of all would not mind do you have an idea for yourself right now should I give you a moment because I think you're gonna yeah i think you're gonna agree with what i'm about to say even if you hadn't thought of it yet so maybe you should think of one first if it doesn't stop the show too much

let me ask this uh is how much of a role does sentimentality potentially play in this i.e because i have like a lot of pictures of my kid that are meaningful to me but i also have them digitally somewhere so like there's a really great frame picture of addy eating a pancake that i love

And if it was going to say that I was going to say that or your your framed art print of the drag performers that you had to actually buy a place.

Yeah, you know what? Probably the girls, as I call them, because the Addy thing, Addy has one of those. I gave her a even larger framed one that she has at her house. It's clearly somewhere on one of my computers. It's probably in the cloud. So the the picture of those two drag queens, I've already had to replace it once. I don't even know if I can get a hold of the hairdresser in Boston who originally took the picture. Probably that mostly because or also mostly because I've just dragged it around from so many residences now that I'll be darned if I'm going to have to try to go out and replace it again.

And that's such a story, too. It hangs on your wall. It's a very striking image. You know, and you have such a story about it already, about how you can have lost it, had to regain it. And then this would be another chapter in the story of that. But I swear to God, I was going to say either either the picture of Addy eating pancakes that you made, I think, in a special shape. Right. Or are they in a special?

Yeah, I made. I mean, it's just it's in the shape of a letter A. Right. Yes.

That was why it was it was notable drag queens. Yep. So, OK, those are great guesses. Now, do you now I don't I'm sitting here trying to think like I'm not trying to make an argument that I'm not somebody who enjoys my worldly possessions. but i do think that i need to think of something here for myself that is irreplaceable you know what i mean like i love my camera but i could buy another camera like i think sentimentality does have to play a role like what is irreplaceable in my life and of course obviously with this question you know animals and pets and people don't humans yeah things like that but i would let me get well what's irreplaceable because i don't i don't even i don't have a good answer to

this i mean i'm my feeling is it would be something in your studio and it would be is it maybe your w mms record oh no like it might be kate got that to me yeah just something that you're like again it's it's it's not about life or death genevieve is safely out of the house you know you're you know professor is um is is is accounted for and so you're not you're not like now you're just like hey what's a thing would it be your drinkworks machine probably you're like it's not it's not it's something that's quote-unquote life or death it's something that you're like i'd rather just get this out of here because it's gonna be either either you do have some sentimental attachment to it or it's just like yeah i don't really want to i can't get another one of these and i feel like something like that vinyl maybe your record player i don't know the

record player is a piece of shit i have a terrible record player that i bought online a while back Just so it can function Here are some of the guesses You're hoping for a fire I think you're kind of right I do like that MMS record is very storied And it means even more to me now Kate, for those who don't know MMS was the radio station I grew up listening to And listener Kate got me She found a WMMS Buzzard Morning Zoo record From the 80s I don't know, like in 2015 And sent it to me I don't even know how she found my address And so that has always been important And, of course, we had to say goodbye to Kate this year, which makes it even more important. That's a good one. You know, it's funny. I joke around. I don't think this would be the right answer, honestly. But I do. One of the only one-of-a-kind things I have is the one ball that I took away, one baseball that I took away from a baseball game. Hold on, your Ryan Court? My Ryan Court. Have I told you that I'm trying to rework history to make it so that Ryan Court was not a good baseball player? He only played 11 games in the major leagues. So shouldn't his ball be more valuable than, you know, a star player who like an A-Rod home run ball? Right. Shouldn't a Ryan Court foul ball be worth more than an A-Rod home run? There were more A-Rod home runs.

Sure, because, I mean, it's a little bit less exciting than a home run. But the same. principle applies ryan court hit fewer not only fewer home runs but fewer foul balls than a rod

and i think anything ryan court did on the field when he hit it to me so anything ryan court did

on the field was by definition a more unique or at least there's it was a more unique event than whatever like a rod did just because ryan court only got to do everything a few times exactly so that's what i'm trying to tell the people at beckett was that the what was the baseball collectors it was Beckett good memory I also I really smell another not that you need another podcast project in your life but I feel like you trying to make this Ryan Court ball into something and then eventually you and you and Ryan Court launch on a mission to do something

collect all of his foul balls from his 11 game run in 2018 or 2019 exactly something like that okay I'm just gonna throw a couple more things that spring to mind I do have this PXL video camera the pxl 2000 or 1000 i think pxl 2000 which was a a short run i guess toy by fisher price that you could actually make movies on and it used audio cassettes it just used them at a sped up pace so that a 90 minute cassette tape would maybe record for about i don't know 10 or 15 minutes maybe i still have it it's not useful in any way it's only a memory from the past but It was they didn't make a ton of them. And so that might be something. But again, like in this scenario, I don't know, maybe the baseball is kind of funnier.

Anyway, I think I'm thinking of that because I like I said, I was listening to Sam Dingman's podcast, the rumor about baseball and really sort of digging into like, you know, the minutia of the Baltimore Orioles in that era. And like excited that they're excited to talk to like Jeff Rebele and other kind of journey, you know, journeyman baseball players. And I love that kind of stuff. So that's, I think, why I feel like there's a Ryan Court. There's an Andrew plus Ryan Court podcast as well. That should be made. Get at me, Dingman.

Thank you, baby.

All right, let's do some Donors of the Day before we get out of here. These are the people making today's episode of The Winter Games possible. We are off this week, but, you know, the expenses of running one of these podcasts, those never end. And so we are very thankful for Aaron Taylor of Bellevue, Washington, for supporting the program. Also, Sarah Templeton, right down here in Portland, Oregon. I can see Sarah's house from here. Hmm, that's weird. I mean, literally, it's weird. Stop it. Did I say that out loud? Did I use my outside voice? You did. Kendra Miller is in Bellingham, Washington. Hey. I used to be able to see Kendra's house from Bellingham. Then you had to move because she filed an order. Because she talked to the officials there. And you know what? I respect you, honestly, for drawing that line, Kendra. That was appropriate. Colby Blanton is in Seattle. Thank you, Colby. Eric Orvik Is out there in The 215 The Illadelf Philadelphia PA Do people call it the Illadelf The Roots call it the Illadelf On one of their albums I don't know if I get to call it the Illadelf Just repeating the Roots there That's where Eric is I miss Philadelphia I haven't been there in a while I was on a kind of semi-regular thing Because when they do Wait Wait out there They would let me tag along But then with the pandemic and stuff, I've not visited Philly in a while. I'm overdue. It is. Stephanie King is in another cool city, Kansas City, M.O. Nice. Thank you, Stephanie. Was Stephanie one of the people who picked us up at the bus station? I know there was a couple of Kansas City 10s who came and got us. I can't access that part of my brain right now. I don't think so But I could be wrong If I'm wrong I'm sorry Stephanie Stephanie what I'd like to say Is thank you for picking us up At the Greyhound station And also if you didn't Wow Really? Yeah That hurts Yeah See that's how you do it Andrew That's how you professionally broadcast You cover both of your options Yeah exactly

And you put it on You put the onus on the donor

Yes

The onus on the donor

Funding this with their money The person like Stephanie In Kansas City Thank you Stephanie Thank you to all of our donors of the day For supporting the show we really do appreciate it and we do enjoy getting to do this for our jobs alright I was thinking we could go out with a somewhat controversial choice I believe it was Jen I believe it was Benjamin Franklin

I thought the same

you know I was about to promote like Live Wire with Paul F. Tompkins except that's already happened so you missed it Stephanie Uh, I, uh, this is, I think Jen had, I think she liked this song, but she also pointed out that many people don't like this Christmas song. It seems to be divisive.

Yeah, I mean, it's definitely, I mean, I think the instrumentation is, is, well, strange, you know, um, and it's very, I use this word on yesterday's show. i don't know if i'm using it correctly cloying but it's one of those things like not unlike our old winter games theme song by conway twitty it's just like it'll just work it's got such a very very basic structure and repetitive nature and it worms your way in to your head and you can't you can't shake it so i understand why people although i do think and you've you've given a full-throated defense of this song in the past and i think that we are living in kind of a post ironic kind of world now where people just like what they like so i think it's enjoying kind of a a resurrection wonderful christmas time by paul mccartney that's right that's the song we're gonna do which

always puts me in a good in a good mood i am a fan of it so i hope you all out there enjoy it and i hope if you don't like it um that you'll give it a second chance yeah we could have played dogs barking to the tune of christmas carols we didn't do that did we that's tomorrow's show All right, thanks for listening, folks. We're going to be back here tomorrow with more Winter Games and Mirth. Until then, have a great Tuesday. Stay safe, take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

The mood is right. The spirit's up. We're here tonight. And that's enough. Simply having a wonderful Christmas time. Simply having a wonderful Christmas time The party's on, the feeling's here That only comes to time of year Simply having a wonderful Christmas time Simply having a wonderful Christmas time The choir of children sing their song Ding dong ding dong Ding dong ding Power out