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The song's kind of ominous, gives me the bad feeling. I told you I didn't want to use this song. Welcome to week two of the TBTL Winter Games. Christmas is behind us And the new year is in front of us We are now in the I think of this as the fun week of the holiday I mean Christmas is obviously very fun It's great to get together with the people you love If you have that going on in your life But you know there's a certain amount of stress associated with it And if you're me, last minute gift shopping, things like that But now that Christmas is done And if you, like us, if you may be able to take a little time off around now Now it's just, this is a great week This is just, you know, zero pressure You're still, if I understand right, you're still in Hawaii as this is airing?

Yes, I'm still in Hawaii I was actually just wondering, is this the time in the vacation? Of course, we're recording this before I've left for Hawaii And I'm wondering, there's always that day where you start to realize Oh, most of this vacation is behind me already You know? I was talking to a friend that that always gives me a little bit of a sad feeling. Not, you know, not too bad, but it's just part of a vacation. Right. You realize, oh, we only have X number of days left and we're more than halfway through this. And you start counting them down and you try not to. But I think, yeah, for some personality types, you just kind of do that. But I talked to a friend of ours who will remain nameless. I felt really bad. I think I was texting him when he was on a vacation a couple of years ago. And he said, how's vacation? And he was at that point. Right. And he still had like two full days, but was already mourning the end of vacation. And it's like, you still have two days. Do everything you can not to put yourself into that mindset, you know? Don't waste your last two days. Why didn't you send a calendar invite to remind yourself to text him that he was already over the hump? I won't say who this friend is, but I will say I started sending him emails saying, can you please record this Tommy John ad for me? Can you please do this Me undies ad Sounds like a great friend

A very good friend who likes to talk a lot About their bottom And their top Yeah for me I've said this on the show a bunch of times And this is buying into what This is giving too much Power over to the situation That you're describing which is this Not being present essentially Like you're on your vacation but it's moving towards There's less of the vacation now you know that you're over halfway done with the vacation and the ideal thing would be just to continue enjoying it and to be present and to know that you're still gonna you know you're still relaxing it's still happening you're still on vacation don't start fretting exactly so what i'm about to say is is the worst expression of this because it's i've always felt that the absolute best part of the vacation is the minute that you get off of work the day before you go on the vacation because that's when there is the maximum amount of the vacation left the vacation hasn't even started but that's the best part of it because once the vacation starts it's a ticking clock you're always having less vacation left from moment one but when you get off work let's say you're going on a you know i mean so my brain is too small and tired to figure out the exact time space on this but like basically we're going to come to a point when we've recorded all of these holiday shows and when i've done all of my work on uh the friday before before christmas like the christmas week and i will be done i will have done live wire live i will have done tbtl i will have done the last of the winter games with you and i will be heading up to seattle to go see the nutcracker with addy and i will be so excited about that and i will be so excited on that friday because that will be – all the time off will be in front of me. And then, yeah, as the time goes on, I will probably become more aware of how much is left. But anyway, my point is I've always thought that the moment after you get off work for the last time before your vacation is the sweetest berry in that whole thing.

Let me add one wrinkle without going too far into said wrinkle. How did I make that wrinkle so gross? Everybody's thinking about themselves being inside of a wrinkle

Well, you didn't describe the wrinkle as, like, moist

That would have been gross No, so you're in this stinky, sticky wrinkle, right? No, if you're flying somewhere And this is probably different for you because you fly so often I think you're actually in the air more than you're not these days I'm in the air right now Yeah

Yeah. For me, you know, like especially a flight from Seattle to Hawaii, it's not the longest flight in the world, but it's also not the shortest flight in the world. And for me, it'll be the moment I actually in Hawaii, I believe the airports aren't indoor either. It's kind of an indoor outdoor situation, at least the one we fly into. So it'll probably be literally the moment I walk off the plane and you breathe in the air of the new vacation land. Right. And it doesn't have to, you know, could be especially if you're going somewhere warm, but whether you're going to Florida or Mexico or other places I've gone for a warm vacation. It's the moment that you step off the plane, you've been through customs, you've been or I guess if you're going out of the country or TSA or you've done all of that. Now the rest is just vacation.

that's a good point although the flight to hawaii is one that i never mind because well i have been to hawaii for work like one time but other than that it's always on it's always for vacation and it's always like i'm just giddy i'm just so excited to be going somewhere warm i'm you know it's like it kind of it doesn't that flight doesn't bother me the way that a flight you know across country to go do some work might feel kind of tiresome to me but also what's cool is you get three hours Back when you're flying to Hawaii So you get there and you're just like Hey I was only In the air for like a couple of hours because Then of course when you go back you really Pay for it when you go back You had west again or excuse me east But alright can we Talk about the game That we are going to play today because You've had this circled for a While you just told me the premise the other day And I laughed for four minutes straight Yes and I have

Not taken this quiz yet this is gonna I have no idea how many questions are in this. I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know if you've clicked on this link yet, Luke. I have not. I think you can because it shouldn't spoil anything. But I'll run it via my side of the equation here. But this was sent to us by listener David. David didn't create this quiz. David didn't have to. It's an online audio game at not owenwilson.com but wowenwilson.com Owen Wilson famous for saying Wow So what we do is we will click a play Button on this website we'll hear Owen Wilson saying wow with a little Bit of context around it from a movie And then we have to guess what Movie it is

Oh I love it I don't Even know how I don't know if I have a super Thorough knowledge of Owen Wilson's Films like I will I be able To tell if he's saying wow in Marmaduke that's a good question but the good news is

it is multiple choice because there's a lot of Owen Wilson movies that I have not seen Owen Wilson by the way to his credit I really love Owen Wilson and I have probably only seen maybe a quarter of his films because he's in all kinds of stuff like he's in stuff that is like probably pretty trashy not trashy but just you know just silly movies that don't really appeal to me but then he'll also be in something like Royal Tenenbaums which is one of my favorite movies of all time he's got a lot of range and i don't know why i need to say this because i don't want to be super dark here but i know where you're going i have always appreciated owen wilson but i sometimes remind myself that we almost lost owen wilson he had a really big scare um mental health related scare a long time ago like a decade ago now or something and i don't say that because I think it should define him or that we have to bring it up every time we bring up Owen Wilson but I cherish him so much I really do and sometimes I think about how sad there's a list of of celebrities and even actors you know who I think of who I am when I think of them they bring me joy and then immediate sadness because we lost them so early Philip Seymour Hoffman you know comes to mind and many others and and to have lost Owen Wilson then would have been such a tragedy and it's like we got like we got a new lease on life and i hope you know and he did too and i hope i hope he's living a healthy happy life right now i know what you i i know what you

mean that's something that i remember from time to time because and again it's it's very it's it's a dangerous game dano to try to talk about any of these you know things around mental health and self-harm to talk about them like there's a kind of like there's only a single experience with them or a single kind of experience, or I want to make sure I don't say something dumb or regrettable around it, but whatever he was dealing with that brought him to that moment of real crisis and attempted self-harm, I could have also seen a universe in which maybe he just either be out of self-preservation or because he wasn't able to.

anymore maybe just kind of like left the public eye stopped working and just kind of went off to do something different with his life or just try to kind of get through each day but it would appear that you know he had he got the help that he needed something you know he was able to address certain things because he's gone on to do so much stuff yeah you know what i mean it isn't like it means he's in so many things and he's great in so many things so again i don't i don't want to sound like i'm trying to guess at what his emotional and mental health situation is because i just don't No, I've never met him, but I am glad that we have him for Cars 3, playing Lightning and Queen.

Exactly. All right, so I'm very excited about this quiz. I want to hit play on this first clue so badly, so maybe we should just take the break, and then we can come back, and I can push all the buttons.

Can we do some quick research on other Chicago-related pizza mysteries that I may be right about?

Well, there's this one place in Philly that says they have a restroom.

Perfect. All right, we'll do a little bit of that, and then we'll do the Owen Wilson Wow Quiz when we return here on the TBTL Winter Games. Wow. How'd I time that? I tried to go one second early to account for the delay. Was I close? No, but that's okay. Dang it.

I was trying you echoed him, so I thought it was good. All right.

A little posty, a little post Malone. Let's go to the post office, my dude. Indeed. I still have never been to the post office.

I haven't gotten that invite yet.

I wouldn't recommend it. Would not recommend.

Did not care for the ending. Do they check the vax cards at the door is the question. Burn them. Okay. So are we ready to listen to our first clue? Does Owen Wilson have a delightfully crooked nose? Are you asking me if I find it delightfully

Well no you were asking me if we should start And I was trying to do like Does the Pope go to the bathroom in the woods How much less good of a I mean I don't actually like I don't even like the original of that Does the Pope you know S in the woods Not because of any personal reverence for the Pope But I don't know why I just like I don't even like that But how much worse is it if it's If you ask me a question and the answer is yes And I go does the Pope go to the bathroom in the woods

Right right right Which, of course, I'm going to say the obvious here. But, of course, it's really does a bear poop in the woods and does the Pope wear a funny hat. Oh, is that what it is? Yeah, like the original kind of expression was does a bear shit in the woods. I'm just going to say it the proper way. It was like if the answer to something was an obvious yes back in the day, well, does a bear shit in the woods? Or some people would say does the Pope wear a funny hat? But then at some point somebody thought it would be funny to kind of invert it. because obviously the Pope, to my knowledge, probably uses indoor plumbing.

I think you would have heard about it if he had taken to crapping in the woods. Indeed. But I did not know the back story on that, and I had only heard it and had no idea why it was the case that they would say, does the Pope go to the bathroom in the woods? But again, I think we can all agree that's the worst expression of all of those jokes.

Does the Pope use the facilities in the woods? Listen to this. This is Owen Wilson. Wow. Oh, my God. What? Oh, this must be randomized because I played the first one. I didn't know what the answer was, but I thought there was going to be a little bit more context. Some of these clues, I think, have some words around the wow. This time we just have wow. Wow. Has it told you what movie it's from? I'm not looking at the website. No, we have four choices here. Is this. Okay. Wow. From Wedding Crashers. Wow. The Haunting. Wow. Cars 3. Wow. Or you, me, and Dupree Wow I want it to be you, me, and Dupree

So bad

It does not sound like Cars, right? Wow That's not Cars, I don't think

No, I don't know what Lightning McQueen sounds like Even though I've seen Cars I went to a drive-in Drive-in movie in Port Townsend And they were playing No, you know what? It wasn't Cars It was Planes Cars was so successful that then they made a version of it, but it's with airplanes called Planes. Wow. I just want to use that all the time.

Cool story, bro. Wow.

Okay.

Oh, no.

I'm going to have to make a... I'm going to say that's not Wedding Crashers or Cars 3. I'm going to say that's either The Haunting or you and me and Dupree. For some reason, I want to say The Haunting, maybe because the audio is a little muddled. It sounds kind of serious. Yeah, and The Haunting covers a little muddled. Wow. I am going to click on The Haunting. I don't know what happens if I'm right or wrong. Let's find out Wow It gave me an X And said I was wrong But it didn't give me The right answer dude Well click on you Me and Dupree And see what I can't It just went to the next slide. Wow. Maybe at the end it'll tell me. Indeed. Oh, I bet you that's what it's doing. I don't know. I see that I have zero wow points, but it didn't tell me what the answer was. Here's the next one. Wow. Okay. Now we're getting some context. Here are your choices for this one. Bottle rocket. I said bottle rocket, Owen. Wow. Meet the parents. Wow. I spy. Wow. Or The Internship. Wow. Which is different than The Intern, which has Bobby De Niro in it. Oh, Bobby D, sure. What do you think? I think that he's established at this point. Wow. I'm leaning towards The Internship. I'm leaning towards The Internship or Meet the Parents.

The Internship is him and Vince Vaughn, right? That's what it looks like. They end up working at, like, a tech startup or something as interns. I could see that. He's very – this is, you know, this is the full-throated Owen Wilson. This is a man in his prime. This is a guy who feels very comfortable letting his wow flag fly. Wow. It's definitely a comedy, although I think all of those listed were comedies, right?

I think so. Yeah, I mean, Bottle Rocket is an action comedy. I Spy, I assume, is similar.

I am going to go out on a limb and say Bottle Rocket, even though what I just said totally belies that, that it's an Owen Wilson in full, which as Dignan in Bottle Rocket, that would be an Owen Wilson in starting out.

But I am going to go with Bottle Rocket. Gotta watch Bottle Rocket again. Okay, I'm gonna hit Bottle Rocket.

Wow.

It just gave me an X and moved on to the next one and then played the next wow. We have zero wow points and the new clue. Does this just mean we're getting them wrong? Yeah, we're just getting them all wrong, but I don't know what the right answers are. All right. So this new one in the clear is either from Zoolander, Starsky and Hutch, Are You Here, or Midnight in Paris. Which I forgot he was in. I feel like it's either Starsky or Midnight in Paris, and I don't know why. What do you think? I need to hear it again for real.

Wow.

I'm trying. Like, I'm driving myself mad because I'm trying to, like, listen for clues in the background. There isn't any.

Wow.

I mean, it sounds like it's outside. I'm going to go Midnight in Paris. It could be him. Okay. You're probably right. I'm going to go Starsky and Hutch. Well, I can only click one. Okay. Click on Midnight in Paris. I want a green checkmark so bad because I want to know what happens. I need a wow point. green green it gave me a green arrow and it moved on all right we got one wow point we got one wows um and then i don't know if you heard that when you get after you guess it automatically plays the next one for you here it is again wow this is oh that is a serious wow wow that's a serious wow um this could have even been from i spy wow no no the big year wow i don't know what that is

hall pass wow uh no that's what i think it's from hall pass i think well you know the idea of the hall pass is like you're married or you're in a relationship but you're allowed to i guess maybe allowed in quotes or whatever hook up with someone you have a hall pass wow it could also be

for uh from the movie cars and i think there was lightning mcqueen did i think have permission to hook up with a Corvette, I think, at one point. That is true. During Corvette. That feels like hall pass to me. You want to go with hall pass? Can we try it? Can we see if we can get two wow points? I really want the reveals to be more satisfying. I love the people who set this up. But here's the thing.

When you got that wow point for us, that was as excited as I've been at any point during the winter game.

Because this website is withholding.

So the kind of withholding nature of it, not giving us wow points and not even telling us what the right answer was, creates a real excitement when we do get a wow point.

That's right. Okay. I'm clicking on hall pass. I'm going to mute this for a second. I'm going to click on hall pass. Green. Checkmark. We have two wow points. You know, it's not often that I feel like kind of in a competitive relationship with the listeners. But I'd like all the listeners to think right now, how many wow points do they have? My guess is they don't have two wow points I feel like we're pretty lucky We're pretty lucky to have a couple of wow points You ready to hear the next one? I'm so ready I feel like we're starting to get the rhythm of this Wow Wow Okay

A lot more

Listen again, there's so much more Build-Up. What is going on? I feel like I know. Is it Ocean's 13? Is it on the list? The list now, choices are the Darjeeling Limited, which that is the only Wes Anderson I have not seen. We just discussed this the other day with Kelly's quiz. You have seen the Darjeeling Limited, right?

I have.

You have. Okay, so that's either Darjeeling Limited. Wow. Cars 3. Wow. Do I hear, like, buckets in the background? Wonder Or Cars The original

Well I'm thinking Darjeeling I thought it was Is he even in He's in Oceans He's in those Oceans 11 movies Isn't he I don't think so

Now that you say that

I thought I remembered No I'm confusing him And Casey Affleck I think I can see that yeah But that Now my guess would be Darjeeling just because of the background sound, but I picked up on the last one,

so I'll let you. Nope, I'm going to go with yours because I have no idea. I'm out here in the cold. I'm pooping in the woods. I don't know what. I don't know up from down. There's the Andrew. Funny hats from bears. Poop at the Vatican. Let's take a listen. I guess not a listen. Let's take a look. You see here, is it Darjeeling Limited? Green check mark. Yes. My God.

The game is slowing down, Andrew.

That's the thing.

Everything. it's just like we're in a flow state

unfortunately the listeners are thinking that too this is really slowing down boys what would Steve Nelson say right now former boss Steve Nelson God I wish you were alive to hear this do you want to do another one here I don't know how long I don't know if there's an end game again I am just as lost as anybody here's the new wow I swear the first one i heard of this when i was testing the other day there were some words around the wow this is just another monosyllabic wow wow but that's almost like the platonic ideal it's got that it's got a little bit of that froggy voice right um that could be from the haunting wow ooh echo on it

very serious the haunting a bad guy in the haunting that sounds like a bad guy wow wow

Are you here? Wow. Darjeeling? Are you a movie? Wow. Or Shanghai Nights? Wow.

Hmm. Shanghai Nights with Jackie Chan? Indeed. I've told you my, I've told this story on the show a thousand times, but let's make it a thousand and one. When I was in shooting that beer commercial, we went to this dive bar in Alberta, in Wayne, Alberta. and we met these couple of, you know, day drinkers there and thought we're going to really impress them with our gear and they gave them some money to be in the scene, etc. And I guess they had shot Shanghai Noon there pretty recently and I think the guys were like, I liked the Jackie Chan movie better.

Yeah. When you went up to them, you're like, we're here shooting a commercial. You wanted them to say, wow. That was all I wanted.

But you didn't get it. Just a simple wow. Okay, so what are you thinking on this? I'm feeling the haunting. I hear an echo on the voice. I like it, I'll trust you

but we didn't get the three wow points not trusting ourselves if I get it wrong, the bummer is I won't know if you were right, but let's give this a shot wow oh green check mark we are rolling in wow points right now oh my god can I bet on this, is this in the Oregon Lottery

betting app over or under on wow points I would have had us based on the first one that we played that you played, I would have taken the under if it was set at two WoW points. I would have been like, we're not going to get to two WoW points.

Didn't you bet that I would score the first WoW point after the Toynkos? I did, and

was bitterly disappointed when they threw it to Penny

Hart. The fact that I called it a Toynkos means we probably are wrapping up here, but let's do this last one, I guess. Let's see if we can get up to five WoW points and then cash them in for a finger trap or a bouncy ball.

One of those packs of gum where it's like a mouse trap

on the stick of gum. Exactly. Okay, here's the new wow. Wow! It's an exuberant wow. This is... Wow! I feel like this is like, I think, really the heart of Owen Wilson wow. It could be from The Wedding Crasher. It could be from The Big Year. Which is that Steve Martin on the poster there? In Jack Black? Anyway, that's The Big Year. It could be in Cars 3.

Wow. Or the internship. Wow.

Wow.

Wow. All I can say is wow.

All I can say is wow.

What was the first one again?

Wedding Crashers.

It sounds, that sounds like Wedding Crashers to me, but I don't know why. Yeah. No, I'm with you because it sounds like peak wow.

Wow. And I feel like Wedding Crashers might be excited.

He's happy. So lock it in. Can we go Wedding Crashers? I want to go Wedding Crashers. I want this fifth point more than I've wanted. Honestly, I don't know if we come back and do a show tomorrow. We may just have to quit on top.

If we get five wow points, everybody is getting a wow point for Christmas next year.

It's like when the team scores whatever over so many points in the basketball game or whatever, everyone's ticket becomes eligible for a free Taco Bell taco the next day. Yep, everybody gets chalupas. Tomorrow is omelet. It's Owen Omelet Tuesday. If we get five wow points, we're buying all of you an omelet tomorrow. Big setup.

I'm going to play it one more time because this is our final wow. It's the same one we've been hearing.

Wow.

Is it Wedding Crashers? Oh. It was not Wedding Crashers. Oh, I thought you were just. No. Toying with my emotions I don't know what it was Do you want me to just click on some of these answers randomly now to see I'm just going to go through these Is there any end to this game

Are you trying to skip to the ending

I just got to the end Oh, there were ten It cut me off It says we got four out of ten But I just randomly clicked those last ones So how many do you think we actually did We probably did about seven, right Maybe we got four out of seven Or four out of six Four out of six But is it giving you the right answers? That's why I did this, huh? I was stalling. No. It says, let's say I got 4 out of 10, which isn't really true. Let's say Owen Wilson wouldn't be ashamed of you, but we can do better here, it says. And it says I can share my result on Twitter. Why would I share this result on Twitter? It says, I just tweeted this. I scored 4 out of 10 on the Wowin Wilson quiz. No. I'm not tweeting that out. That's a shame.

Andrew, let's be honest. I've tweeted worse.

why does he give you the answers luke this is so frustrating well we just need one of the

listeners to spend their holiday break playing the wow and wilson game enough times that you figure out all of the right and not right answers and then creating an answer key and Sending it to us. That's all. That's all. Speaking of support, we've got to thank some donors of the day who are supporting the show with their donations. That's the only way we're able to do this. I mean, honestly, we would not be here if not for the generosity of folks like Catherine Jory in Huntley, Montana. Possibly Jor. I'll just throw that out there. Possibly Jor. Possibly your. Possibly your. Catherine Jory or your. Any of those three people who are donating to the show, please pick up your lost child. They're at the jewelry counter. Lynn Schneider is in Olympia, Washington Thank you, Lynn For making TBTL possible Maya Swains Is in Seattle, Washington

I thought you were going to go with Swanus But I think you're right, it's probably Swains

I don't know though The E modifies the A But also, I mean, if it was a I Then she'd be related to Freddie Swain Then I'd be freaking out I'd be like, can I get an autograph? Then that would be annoying I still want Maya's autograph. Don't get me wrong.

Yeah.

Thank you, Maya. Also, Tan Ying Dong in Pittsburgh, PA. Nice.

We hear from Tan Ying quite a bit. Steel City. Yeah.

That's right. Yeah, Tan Ying, if memory serves, Tan Ying had a situation involving a garbage can in her neighborhood. There was dog poop being put into or something, and she had, I think, like some kind of a video camera, you know, video thing. Surveillance is a little dark But she had a camera that caught it or something I remember she sending it to us Is that ringing any bells? It seems weird to me that we would

Talk on a podcast about garbage Pickup issues That seems a little mundane But if you say so But I just can't believe that we would have dedicated Time on this podcast We're a public radio podcast But sure, maybe that's what happened

We did, and Tan Ying loved it so much that she sent in, you know, footage to give us something to talk about on that subject. Mindy Lum is in Minneapolis, Minnesota. You lummed to see it. It didn't really work.

No, it did. Actually, you got me.

Mindy, I made Andrew laugh, okay? That's what matters. It also matters that you're donating to the show. Thank you so much. We appreciate you. And then Dane Royer is in Stevens Point, Wisconsin. I wonder if I said this last time The town of Stevens Point Wisconsin came up I always think there's an amusement park There but that's because Cedar Point

Cedar Point is in Sandusky, Ohio And that does have an amusement park So it's anything with

Point in it, my brain goes to Amusement Park Town

Although I was thinking, I guess I'm confusing There's Lake Stevens here Not too far out from Seattle Right exactly Are there any points in this area I think I was conflating because it's Stephen's Point For a moment sounded like something in our area But clearly it's not

Well there's Point Roberts Which is up near Bellingham And Point Roberts is a very interesting place Because it is in the United States Technically or it is part of the United States But you have to go through Canada To get to it by land Oh that is a dazzling detail And they were quite It's been quite inconvenient for them Because of the rules around international travel Which they're technically doing The people that live there When they want to re-enter the United States Because they have to go through Canada And I want to say There was a CBS Sunday Morning piece about it Which I felt Was Should have been my story How dare they

Are there any stories That you don't feel like should be yours on that show Sure Oh well you turned one down

I did turn down Tim Allen Exactly, yeah. It's the only thing that I've ever... You know what I'm doing, actually, when, supposedly anyway, once the new year rolls around, I'm going to be doing a TV profile of Kirsten Dunst.

Oh, cool.

Which will be kind of fun. I'm an admirer of her work. All I want to talk about with her is Drop Dead Gorgeous, the very funny beauty pageant mockumentary that she and Kirstie Alley were in. Is she a kid in that? She is kind of, I mean, sort of, i guess you would say the star and that she's she's the she's the person participating in the pageant who we really root for because she's uh you know a nice person and not fake and not backstabbing um but of course she's been in many many things i think that they're probably promoting this um the power of the dog which is this western that she and benedict cumberbatch and jesse plemons are all in uh which is just getting rave reviews it's a jane campion film And what's interesting about that movie to me, Andrew And this is all my way of thanking Dane Royer of Stevens Point, Wisconsin And the other donors of the day Is that the characters, so Benedict Cumberbatch and Jesse Plemons are brothers And they are the brothers Burbank And that would be the second set of characters Or the characters that have my last name in a movie Also Jim Carrey in the Truman Show, he's Truman Burbank

Yet neither one of these have overshadowed the connection of Luke, I Am Your Father, Star Wars fame.

No, it'll be a long time before someone comes up and goes, are you one of the Burbank brothers from The Power of the Dog? You never know. This movie comes out, maybe. I mean, it could eclipse Star Wars. You never know. Everyone's saying, no joke, that Benedict Cumberbatch is going to win an Oscar for portraying the mean Burbank brother. Oh, really? I just want some, I want there to be a poster that says like, Here come the Burbank Brothers And then I can get me and David and Sam Copies and we can put them up in our Rumpus rooms I love it

I like also picturing one of You and David Or Sammy recreating the Bash Brothers Poster or maybe add a third person To that

If I could grow a goatee And be Mark McLemore Wait Mark McLemore was a mariner Mark McGuire Mark McLemore was in it for some random reason

I didn't even know that was a real person. I thought you were just, for some reason, saying Macklemore like the rapper accidentally.

No, Mark Macklemore was a utility mariner. He played second base a lot, and he was not a Bash brother. I mean, he wasn't a bad player. He was solid, but he was no Bash brother. No, I mean. That would be funny one year if we do some TBTL posters that are just reenactments of those. Some of those Costacos Brothers posters.

Oh, that would actually. But about TBTL concepts.

That actually would be really funny.

And I'm so bad at having my picture The Wizard of Boz We've talked about that one right I think so yeah

Like Brian Bosworth

Yeah, it was like when he was a Seahawk He was really pretty bad as a Seahawk Honestly, he was hurt a lot He only played one full season, right? Something like that I mean, he was not a very effective NFL player But yeah, they did have that poster Where it's like a Wizard of Oz thing But it's the Wizard of Boz

I feel like I can picture that But maybe it's just because you've mentioned it So many times or something

I think it has probably like a Overly sexualized Dorothy Involved in it somewhere My memory is he's like standing there There's this kind of small yellow brick road And there's like a woman on it Who's very very sexy

I didn't that is not where I was Going with it it's hard for me to Boz is It's Bozworth is it spelled with an S Is that why nothing is coming

I think they did B-O-Z But that's also the problem is well People called him the Boz I guess that was his nickname And in those cases, it wasn't like the B.O.S. It would be the B.O.Z.

I'm having trouble. I'm having. Oh, wait. Nope. I am not having trouble. It was I was better off when I was having trouble. Yeah. And there's a bunch of little kids around him. This is a bizarrely complicated.

Oh, yeah.

Poster. You have a tin man who's wearing. I guess that was it's supposed to be. It doesn't say it, but I'm sure that's supposed to be like a San Francisco jersey. And he's like falling backwards behind him. But then who's this kid? It says Raz.

You know what? Right. Well, first of all, I was doing this. This is such a simple. We're doing our jobs, Andrew. This is such a simple concept. How did I get it so wrong? It's not the Wizard of Boz. It's the land of Boz. What are they doing? They probably couldn't say. Probably calling it the Wizard of Boz Was too close to the Trademark of Frank L. Baum Frank L. Baum's Estate so they had to go with Something that was one click off but there's no such thing No one calls it really the Land of

Oz I feel like do I actually I think okay yeah that's fair

They do call it they do call it the Land of Oz but I feel like Wizard Of Boz is kind of more It just feels to me like something they went to because They couldn't call it they wanted to call at Wizard of Oz and they couldn't. I agree with that. Is my guess. But then, yeah, it's like conceptually so confusing because is he an enemy of the Tin Man and the Scarecrow and the Cowardly Lion? Because the narrative of the Wizard of Oz is getting kind of all jumbled in this.

Yeah, I can't even. I'm looking for a – have you found like a nice big one where you can actually explain what's going on in here?

because yeah i'm i'm just looking at it on my phone but so he has he's wearing a jersey brian bosworth is wearing a jersey that says monster db which which is i don't know what i mean monster db that must have been some some was that a reference to something because he was not a defensive back i mean he was a linebacker would you wouldn't call that a defensive back a defensive back usually refers to somebody in like a safety so monster db he wasn't a defensive back he's wearing the number 44 which was a huge thing he wanted i believe he was 44 in college at oklahoma and he wanted to be 44 in the nfl and there was some reason he couldn't be then you've got the bozkin which i think they want that to be somebody they want to be a reference to sort of like you know the lollipop guild in wizard of oz i will give them credit on this one thing they don't have a little person playing you know uh something that might border on stereotypical which i think probably a lot of the stuff in wizard of oz uh if i could imagine that somebody who is a little person would not feel great about some of the stuff that goes on with that and i would very much have seen this poster being employing the same kind of humor and they're not at least it's a kid like at least that's one good thing they're not doesn't look like they're you know making a joke at the expense of someone who happens to be a little person yeah which you couldn't you know

what you couldn't expect too much from a 1987 land of boz poster so i would agree with you you do have oh the emerald city in the background with seattle you know what andrew you've cracked the

case that must have been i'm not shitting you that must have been where the concept started

i found a really high-res version of this now i honestly don't i hate to say it but i don't think we can use this this is such a specific intellectual property i don't think we can probably use this as a show pick but i don't know how big the version you're looking at is luke but can you see what's written on the little smooth rock to the right of the yellow man please hold enhancing there's no place like dome they were still playing in the in the dome right the kingdom oh there's no place

Lake Dome. That's actually

a funny you know what this poster should be called there's no place like dome the more we talk the more you're into it it started this conversation this podcast ends with you ordering this off of

ebay i do i really i mean this is i think this was a kind of a northwest thing i know that the costacos brothers who made these posters were based in i think in like bellevue or something so i think these loomed much more large in if you grew up in seattle as a kid did some of these kinds of things sort of make their way to ohio would you have any awareness of them well i knew the

bash brothers poster really well my friend tim cassada had that on his wall um growing up um so is that part of is that part of this whole i think so i'm gonna look really quick bash brothers

poster um i would love it if the i'm in a hotel as i'm recording this with you andrew i'd love it if housekeeping knocked on the door and i said i'm working um let's see here i'm looking at yes You know, the first thing that happens when you put in Bash Brothers is Costacos Brothers. Okay. The brothers who were kind of made, wow, vintage Jose Canseco, wow, vintage Jose Canseco, Mark McGuire, Bash Brothers, Costacos poster, 1988, $200 on eBay, Andrew.

I'm trying to remember. It was earlier this week in these winter game shows where I was talking about my Matchbox cars. Yes. Do you recall that conversation? I do. I found for the website, Luke, a photo of the exact Matchbox Cars carrying case that I used to have as a kid, and the picture I used was from eBay, and it was going for, I think it was more than $200 in mint condition for a carrying case for cars that I had as a kid. That's why if I had kids, I wouldn't let them play with their toys.

i am now just i've gone down i'm gonna need to take an extra week off andrew because i have gone down another costacos brothers rabbit hole this is almost this should be something we do on no point because it might be more interesting to the to the sports minded folk out there but like you got carl malone special delivery because he was known as the mailman you've got lawrence Taylor aka the Terminator you had Jim McMahon as Mad Mac which is a play on Mad Max yeah like you had Chicago Vice for some reason which was Jim McMahon and Walter Payton you had Batman which was Kevin Mitchell who he was a San Francisco Giants home run hitter these things Chuck Person the Rifleman God these Kenny Easley the Enforcer these I I know that we've talked about these posters a lot on the show i don't know if i've ever gone this far down the the memory hole of looking at these posters but every one of them i remember because i used to stand in this poster shop at the northgate mall called imprints and just leaf through you know those kind of like big it was like all of the posters but it was like you could see the proof of concept and you would just flip through this like giant poster thing i know exactly what you're talking about yeah And, like, looking at these, oh, my God, Steve Largent, when he retired, they made one for him that was called Honorably Discharged, where he's, like, standing in front of a blue angel. And, of course, the big thing with Steve Largent was that he was, you know, very Mr. Family Values and Mr. Super Clean Reputation. God, these are just amazing. This really takes me back to my childhood.

I was telling you the other day that I was going down a nostalgia hole, as I want to do, and I was watching some full Browns games from the 80s, from the mid to late 80s, like the Browns-Oilers games. And then I decided – now, I was borrowing nostalgia when I thought maybe I'll watch an old Seahawks game from the 90s. Now, keep in mind, as a kid, we were not a big sports family. When the Browns were very good, every now and then I have a vague memory of, like, uncles or friends or somebody maybe coming over and watching the game and me kind of getting excited about football, but I didn't really know much about it. I did have a football, by the way, and I would braid its hair. But anyway, the other day I put on, and I swear it was 1990, and I can't remember if they were playing the Dolphins, if it was the Seahawks-Dolphins game. But it was so funny to see, like, Dave Wyman just, like, running around out there. Like, I know intellectually that Dave Wyman was, you know, a star. Was he a DB, actually? He was a defensive back, right? He was a linebacker as well. Or he was a linebacker, okay. And I know intellectually that this man that I know as a radio host and a former colleague, that he used to play football and that people like you as a kid admired him so much as you watched him play games. Greatly. I've never seen him before, and it was –

A trip. It was an absolute trip to see him out there making tackles and sometimes getting burned.

Sorry, Dave. I wonder if that was the game. Was that the game where the Seahawks beat the Dolphins in the playoffs on the road in Miami?

I am not sure. I just kind of put it on. I was playing a video game. I was playing my Civilization VI, and I now have kind of a two-computer setup in here. So on one screen over to my left, I just kind of put it on as audio spackle sort of, and I would look over every now and then, so I wasn't paying tons of attention to it. It might have been another Oilers game. It might have been this, I don't know if you're looking, but the full game of 1990 Oilers versus Seahawks is right here. Wow, I wonder if Warren Moon was the Oilers quarterback.

Welcome to the Kingdom here in Seattle. I'm Charlie Jones along with Todd Christensen, an interesting matchup between two teams who both expect to make the playoffs. We have the overachievers and the underachievers.

Well, people wouldn't necessarily say that they're underachievers, but the Houston Oilers are 6-5 and 1st in the Central Division.

This man is so huge, and he's holding a tiny little microphone. Anyway, I highly recommend, Luke, one of these nights when you're maybe on your break and you've had a few glasses of wine, and it's maybe midnight, you don't know exactly what to do, but you're not ready to go to bed yet, dial one of these up. They're full broadcast, sometimes two and a half to three hours long, of these 80s and 90s NFL games.

That's a great idea. It would also maybe keep me from just buying stuff online that I don't need, which is where my end of Boz poster. Oh, shit. If it if I can get one of those for cheap, you know, there's a signed Bash Brothers one that's twelve hundred dollars on eBay. Oh, my God. Wow. I didn't even realize until I looked at it that it's a parody. The Bash Brothers is a parody of the Blues Brothers. Like, duh, of course it is.

Yeah. You know, I wasn't thinking of that right now, but I think we've discussed that before because they're wearing the big sunglasses. Right.

Yes I'm not looking at it Looking at it It's very obvious But it never occurred to me Yeah Okay You had Many hours ago Do you remember Come up with a clever song To go out with

Remember when we were Talking about Owen Wilson That feels like forever ago But I thought maybe We could go out With some Wilson Phillips I guess Oh yes Hold On Is probably their biggest hit I felt like If I looked at Wilson Phillips hits I would know a lot more Than I actually do Because I feel like Are you I like that music

Able to look at the Are you using a system that will show you their most popular song?

Yeah, and I also, even while we were talking before, in fact, I still have it up here. I just Googled Wilson Phillips singles. You got Hold On and You Release Me. Those are the two that I definitely know. And then the other ones, I don't recognize these names. Impulsive, Good Vibrations. What are you? The Beach Boys. Actually, wait. Yeah, one of them is related to one of the Beach Boys. No.

No, one of them is John Phillips from The Mamas and the Papas. daughter right actually two of them no and then carney no carney wilson carney wilson is a wilson

that's a beach boy name okay yes i thought that i thought there was a beach boy connection there so maybe they're covering um okay do you want to do release me or hold on can you read me a couple like like deeper cuts and see any of them release me impulsive good vibrations god only knows that would be the let this looks like another um beach boys cover uh you're in love won't see me cry You like You're In Love? I like You're In Love. Oh, okay. Let me see if I can call it.

You're in love. That's the way it should be. Because I want you to be happy. I think they're singing to the person that they broke up with, but they're happy that that person's in love. That's very sweet. Beautiful sentiment going into the new year. All right. Thanks for listening, everyone. If there's anyone still listening. Someone was like, oh, cool. They did a normal show. And they listened and they're like, shit, they did a normal show.

Oh, no, a lot of garbage time. A lot of garbage time. Sure, a lot of garbage time. I would be able to get my stats pumped up.

It's a contract year for me, so I've got to try to pad them where I can. All right, thanks for listening, everyone. We'll see you tomorrow. Until then, have a wonderful rest of your Monday, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

And now I see that you're so happy. And ooh, it just sets me free. And I'd like to see us as good friends As we used to be My love You're in love That's the way it should be Cause I want you to be happy You're in love And I know that you're not in love with me Ooh, it's enough for me to know that you're in love

Now I'll let you go Cause I know That you're in love Sometimes it's hard to believe

That you're never coming back for me

Wow! Wow! Wow! All I can say is wow!

Power out!