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#3588 Luke And Andrew And The Bottlecap Mystery!
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3588 Luke And Andrew And The Bottlecap Mystery!

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December 31, 2021 | 00:39:21 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke and Andrew end the year as they began it…by not getting to any of the topics they promised to cover. But they DO solve a couple of mysteries, including one involving some Burbank Family Drama going back decades.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:33 | Speaker 2:

All right, we have arrived, my friends, at the final installment of the TVTL Winter Games Here on a Friday Welcome to the show, I'm Luke Burbank Feeling a surge of energy Right over there is my friend Andrew Walsh Hello

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Hello Luke Burbank I wanted to mention something here This of course is our final winter game I still have a few, and this is a good problem to have But I want to say I still have a few winter games Submitted by listeners that we didn't get to this year I hope that doesn't deter anybody from sending them in the future Because these have all been great and I appreciate the ones that have been sent in that we didn't get to, we will definitely still use them in upcoming games. We always have more games right around the corner, so don't you worry about it. But thanks, everybody, who submitted these things. Thank you. Yes, winter is always coming here. Winter is always coming. And we need some games. Sometimes summer, too.

00:01:13 - 00:02:18 | Speaker 2:

I may be having that surge of energy in the way that when you are very cold in the snow and you lie down and then you feel warm, and they say, don't go to sleep, And you're like, I feel warm Mama, take these clothes off I can't use them anymore Anytime I'm singing Dylan You know I'm going towards the light Also, I have an update from yesterday's program I was telling the story of Take off that ridiculous hat And Andrew Considering how faulty my memory is Particularly on days like this Where I'm a little loopy I got a surprising amount of the story right Sammy said It was at Bumbershoot one year Rockstar Energy Drink was giving away These free hats by a skate demo That was happening we all grabbed them I think Davey was wearing his When I said that And then I said I got the details right and then Sam said they basically Look like an Ed Hardy trucker hat with a Rockstar logo slapped on them And then David said I've always been at the bleeding edge Of fashion clearly it's upset Some jealous people and of course

00:02:18 - 00:02:47 | Speaker 1:

So Sammy is the older brother I think sometimes i forget that because i don't get to hang out with those guys enough so so you got some definitely some older brother vibes there you have the younger brother the youngest brother right the youngest sibling no not the last the last burbank that's right he is known on social media that's right um so he's like hey great free promotional hat and then sammy is at the age where he's starting to think that other people's like uncoolness and proximity to him could affect his

00:02:47 - 00:03:32 | Speaker 2:

own coolness i'm assuming maybe well what's really funny and i i want to be careful i don't want to get too much into sort of describing or trying to figure out motives of other people even my little brothers but it's or whatever but it's funny to me that like sam is really not that way sam is not the kind of person who would like walk into a room and go take off that not at all he's actually very out of character for him and david at that age was uh definitely not somebody who you wanted to mess with because he david is just the absolute kindest person i know in the world now but when he was younger he you know had a bit of a short fuse and it's surprising to me that sam saying take off that ridiculous hat didn't send him into a rage it didn't if i remember right

00:03:32 - 00:03:50 | Speaker 1:

he didn't pull back a stump has jenny no there was a lot what was that what well i'm using i'm sort of i'm using that sort of incorrectly but it's like i think maybe it's more like if somebody's like you know somebody's vigorously eating a plate of food and if you try to reach in front of them

00:03:50 - 00:04:10 | Speaker 2:

you'll pull back a stump in other words oh you know where my brain went i pictured david crouching over a tree stump and pulling it out of the ground out of anger like the hulk yeah pulling back a stump that was like the inside of a beer like a bottle cap that's like one of those what do you

00:04:10 - 00:04:15 | Speaker 1:

call those kinds of games like it's pick yeah pick to pick the puzzle that's not what they're

00:04:15 - 00:05:48 | Speaker 2:

called but i'm just gonna go with that yeah that drove a lot of my beer drinking decisions in my 20s yeah you because rainier would have the puzzle like oh cool i've got one of those little things in there but no i thought and then i thought maybe you were making a reference to walter it's crazy how your brain wants to especially like i think in this mode that i'm in right now your brain wants to sort of try to find a logical connection so when you said pulled back a stump and i was thinking that's what you're saying about david then i started thinking about how there's now a kind of famous story in my family you know my dad a couple years ago was cutting he was cutting apart a tree with a chainsaw have i told you this story yes this is very scary it really was actually very scary and lucky that he was you know he wasn't even more injured but he was hurt pretty badly he was cutting a tree with a with a chainsaw in their yard and the tree was actually on the ground but it was it was being flexed by other trees that it was sort of like had grown up around it so there was a lot of i guess you would call it like potential energy that was trapped in this tree that he didn't realize and so as he cut it it released the potential energy and the tree swung out and knocked him back and he ended up breaking uh his knee and being really badly injured by this but what's amazing to me was at the time he didn't realize how injured he was and he was mad so he got up and he finished cutting the tree apart like to show that tree so my mind was like does he think what we do when we're mad as burbanks is

00:05:48 - 00:06:22 | Speaker 3:

destroy trees and that's why he said david pulled up a stump uh-huh uh-huh by the way quick this is a this is a very big aside from what you're talking about right now but we're talking about those bottle cap um i i'm it's actually driving me crazy thinking about what they're officially called but the little puzzles where you know words are replaced by little pictures and you got to piece it together and figure out what the you know popular phrase is and these are little puzzles that used to be uh on these you know bottle caps you twist off a bottle cap of rainier and the puzzle is underneath and this was a big thing that like camaro kevin i and the gang would do with the eagles we'd order that specifically for the puzzles yes

00:06:22 - 00:06:26 | Speaker 1:

It's like it's a drink and and a fun thing to then do with your friend.

00:06:27 - 00:08:08 | Speaker 3:

And now it was it was April 1st. I know that it was April 1st and I was not with Camaro Kev, but he was at one of his favorite bars and he texted the entire gang. Those of us who love these because every now and then like like if Kevin goes to the Eagles to pick up some takeout food or something like that and he's just having a quick beer by himself. He will take a picture of the bottle cap and send it out to our entire crew. Right. And we all take guesses at it until we get it. Um, and then he texted the chain on April 1st and said, they don't have them anymore. The bartender just uncapped my Rainier and there's no longer a puzzle underneath. And I was like, dude, this is your regular bar we're talking about here. It's April Fool's Day. She's pulling a fast one on you. He's like, no, no, no. She insists this is not a fast one. She pulled it off and showed me. I'm like, dude, I, this has all the hallmarks of an April Fool's joke. But then time went on and they never came back. And I've been meaning to look this up because somebody said that, you know, while you have Rainier, which is kind of like kind of like a local brew here, it's really owned by one of the huge national chains. Right. I don't know if it's InBev or Anheuser, you know, I don't know which one it is, but it's the same company that does some of these other local brews like Lone Star down in Texas, down in Austin. Remember, we were in Austin. They also used to have the puzzles underneath the lid gone. It had something to do with, you know, probably resources during the pandemic that they had to like, you know, I thought that beer companies were doing well during the pandemic. I don't know exactly what caused this. I see there's an article in here in my San Antonio dot com here, uncapping the mystery disappearance of Lone Star's famous puzzle tops. This is from May of last year.

00:08:08 - 00:08:38 | Speaker 2:

are you seeing anything that that isn't an explanation because you said supply chain issues or beer companies not doing well but like what's the cost the ink yeah i don't know that seems so small and and again it's so much more fun when you have those little things it's almost the most fun when they mess one up and so it's like something that makes no sense and you're staring at it for like an hour and you're like no matter how much alcohol i apply to this problem it doesn't become clearer and then you finally get it and you're just like so triumphant yes exactly and of course

00:08:38 - 00:09:21 | Speaker 3:

and i was just talking about these puzzles the other day and like the pictures are so smeared and blurry that it looks like my grandfather's tattoo my grandfather and i i i do not speak ill here i loved my grandfather but he you know he lived to a ripe old age and uh a ripe old girth right he was a large man when he died and whenever he got whatever his tattoo was he was of a different size and a different age and by the time i got to know my grandfather he just had an ink blot he just had a roar shock of a tattoo on his arm that i don't know what it is was he in the military was it like i don't think so that i don't think he was in the military no um also that's

00:09:21 - 00:10:30 | Speaker 2:

totally going to be me by the way and i'm adding tattoos to the situation are you getting another one john i'm getting a john prine tattoo oh right in january john 316 well that too i've already got one on my back but i want to put one on my front so there's just no way of missing it um oh you know what sorry andrew i hate to do this to you but uh tvtl breaking news uh addie is now weighing into the chat over this whole ridiculous hat situation okay uh she says okay the piece that's missing here is that sam and dave were in the midst of a legit brotherly beef and i think dave was feeling kind of swag with his hat on so he was confidently giving sam some shit but when sam called out the elephant in the room that hat that was utterly ridiculous looking it was an epic burn and put the whole thing to rest interesting wow that's addy's take on it was so there was a little more there was some it was chippy out there there was a there was it was uh apparently there was some back and forthing um but uh i know i'm i'm sad it was at david's expense but it lives on as one of the great grow to sayings in our little family. I have an

00:10:30 - 00:10:44 | Speaker 1:

answer for this. This is fascinating but somewhat dark. Are you ready to take a little journey or do you want to do this after the break? Let's do it after the break. Okay, give me a second to read a little bit more of this. Okay, perfect. Let's take a quick

00:10:44 - 00:11:16 | Speaker 2:

break and then we'll be back with the solution to the bottle, which sounds like a Hardy Boys book, The Bottle Cap Mystery. It really does. Or maybe Nancy Drew. Coming up in a moment here on TBTL. Head and shoulders, knees and toes.

00:11:16 - 00:11:23 | Speaker 1:

The old beer bottle polka from Polish House Party, Volume 4.

00:11:23 - 00:11:32 | Speaker 2:

And ears and mouth You know I learned a totally different song To that tune And I can't sing along because I'm on a one second delay

00:11:32 - 00:11:32 | Speaker 1:

Do you think this is the same

00:11:32 - 00:11:50 | Speaker 2:

I know what you're talking about, the kids song Yeah, this is definitely the same tune Head and shoulders, knees and toes Knees and toes, eyes and ears And mouth and nose Head and shoulders, knees and toes See, we did it, Andrew I got to sing the last two episodes of the Winter Games

00:11:50 - 00:12:23 | Speaker 1:

I I have very fond memories of going to spend, like, weekend nights. Me and my sister would go spend weekend nights at my grandmother's house, Grandma Simczyk, who I would call Grandma Clink Clink, as you know. And my grandma, Polish woman, had a huge Polish record collection, 45s. And me and my sister would love to go over there, and grandma would put on her Polish records just like that, and we would have a Polish dance party and then grandma would scratch our backs.

00:12:24 - 00:12:24 | Unknown:

Cute.

00:12:25 - 00:12:27 | Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh, that is so wholesome.

00:12:28 - 00:13:19 | Speaker 1:

It was incredibly wholesome. Haven't had a polka dance party since I was probably four years old. You know, if you play your cards right, I will give you a back scratch. Okay, good, but not without the polka dance first, Luke. So can I set this up again? Again, why did these little picture puzzles disappear? I don't know. In the story. I don't know. I think they're just describing them. But so I'm on this MySanAntonio.com, which I believe is the website for, like, whatever their free press is there, you know, or their alt press. And the writer who I should give credit to here is Camille Sowers, if I'm pronouncing the name correctly. And they wanted to know, like, where did these puzzles go? Because, like you say, Luke, it doesn't make sense that, like, in a bad economy you're going to stop printing these puzzles, right?

00:13:19 - 00:13:37 | Speaker 2:

they're called a rebus a rebus puzzle by the way oh really i'd never heard that word but it's the internet says it's an rebus puzzle okay a picture representation of a name work or phrase is called a rebus puzzle just have you heard the good news about rebus um bringing that back i can't even

00:13:37 - 00:15:17 | Speaker 1:

spell rebus all right so um so i'm gonna read directly from the story here because i'm kind of reading this cold so my apologies and again it sounds like maybe the reason is a little bit dark I started to grow a little conspiratorial. Maybe the caps were a military psyop. No, probably not. I see. We're just a little having some fun here with this story. I dug a little deeper. Ultimately, I found a blog post from the beer outlet called beers for everyone from January that was detailing a racist incident that occurred where a Chicago based in Texas raised news anchor cracked open her Lone Star beer to unveil an unequivocally offensive puzzle featuring a head a lion and a noose i had not read all this all the way through i knew a noose was involved um and it was supposed to be headline news okay head lion and a noose and that the picture is combined and the answer is headline news um and it turns out that this reporter then tweeted about it when you open your beer to a noose how is this even okay at lone star beer the murder of thousands of people is the butt of your jokes headline noose and that's from felicia bolton tv and so basically it sounds like the the company said hey listen we're doing a brand refresh here we outsource i'm now just talking i'm summarizing here we outsource these puzzles another company this is obviously not on uh not part of our brand values so we have gotten rid of the the puzzles for now but plan it looks like they plan to bring them back in the future with maybe a little bit more oversight it seems like a pretty easy problem to solve just tell the people

00:15:17 - 00:16:04 | Speaker 2:

that do the printing no nooses yeah no no no no good news no i will not use that as a show title because it's tricky um but it sure and and you know obviously we're not trying to make light of of the seriousness of that topic but just of the it seems like you could you could probably just put out an email or something that said these are the things that we do not want in the rebus puzzle please and uh you know it could be fixed but i do think that it is a genius idea when they're not offend accidentally racist or offensive i do think it's a genius idea for all the reasons that we've already talked about because i really do look forward to trying to solve those things uh i find it to be endlessly fascinating and fun yeah it's interesting and i you know i don't necessarily

00:16:04 - 00:16:56 | Speaker 1:

want to take this on or be contrary in any way because i mean i you know i think the the obvious connection here is like to the lynchings and i'm sure that that is what the connection is but like nooses also have other kind of iconic they show up as iconic imagery in other situations as well like and again this is probably me speaking and again i'm not trying to make an argument here i'm just saying I'm just being honest about my perspective on this until I read this article like when I think of a noose I actually think of the kind of iconic scene I think it's the the good the bad and the ugly like begins and ends with like a cowboy on the end of a noose in a very precarious situation and and so I sort of think about it in that context as well so I'm just saying as a privileged white dude I would open up this beer bottle I don't think I would have any problem with that right but I also understand why a different person would open that up and it would just like be just untasteful like and just puts them in a place where they don't want to be when they're just trying to enjoy a beer so that's kind of interesting

00:16:56 - 00:18:29 | Speaker 2:

if i can extend this pretty serious topic when i've already stated that i've lost my mind about four episodes ago um it was interesting because in the jesse smollett case in chicago where he was found guilty there was a black person on the jury there was one black person on the jury which just always strikes me as weird and we're talking about Chicago but anyway that person said that something about his story that struck them as very odd was that he had by his own account his account of the thing was these racists came up and attacked me and they put this noose around my neck and then I took it off and then I put it back on before the Chicago police showed up and what basically happened was he had this noose around his neck and he had to explain why it was he still had it on and he if he was guilty which i think he was of making the whole thing up he was wearing it to try to drive home the effect but what the juror said was as a black person i believe he said something to the effect of you you can't find too many black people who would put a noose back on their neck it had been on and then taken off and then put it back on yeah and that was why that person had voted guilty because of that one thing which again that's not my lived experience but i Can imagine and I can hear What that person's saying and it's like something Like that is so different If you have not grown up in a Society that would lynch black Bodies you know I mean or not a if you were Not the target of that I should say you Just look at it so differently but I thought that was a That was an interesting detail of the whole story

00:18:29 - 00:19:12 | Speaker 1:

Did you end up watching and we should get to the Quiz are we doing The quiz about the Jussie Did you end up watching the Watchmen TV show No I didn't it looked super intense to me it is super intense and so um i don't know the the noose imagery comes up in there too and there's something very interesting about the watchman of course you read the comic book which i'd forgotten about that you read that as a part of a tbtl um yeah book club way back in the day and i think you might have even watched the movie adaptation which was interestingly somehow both very accurate for a big part of the movie but also somehow really bad Like I don't know if you Did you watch the movie The Watchmen

00:19:12 - 00:19:24 | Speaker 2:

I did not watch the movie No no wait I did I did Or I started watching it Maybe I fell asleep I think I remember They're flying in like a Kind of a Like a spaceship Kind of thing Yeah the owl I believe

00:19:24 - 00:19:25 | Speaker 1:

The owl character

00:19:25 - 00:19:32 | Speaker 2:

They're in the owl I remember the scene in the owl And I think I had to look A minor crush on Oh yeah I forget the name of the actor But she's

00:19:32 - 00:20:00 | Speaker 1:

She's in the owl She's like a Scandinavian name I don't know the I don't know the actor But I just know that that character is very crushable so anyway um and you know i just read the watchman for the first time like a year or two ago i talked about on the show um anyway the tv show malin ackerman is really interesting because it takes place after all of the very very strange events of the watchman what's interesting about it too is a lot of the story is really told through a very black lens and it's very interesting in it.

00:20:00 - 00:21:02 | Speaker 2:

It goes back to some of the atrocities that happened in this country. I mean, it's just amazing how you just think, oh, it's a, I don't know, it's a comic book movie or a comic book TV show. But it actually is, I mean, the show's got so many layers. And the one thing is, if it's been a while since you read the comic book or you don't remember the very strange world-changing ending to the story, You might want to refresh that because it plays a pretty critical role in where this story picks up now and where the world is at. But for people who, I mean, I'm sure most people who are interested have probably already seen it if you're listening to me talk about it. But if you've been on the fence about it and you've read the comic book, watch the TV show. In fact, Genevieve kind of hates comic books, but she started watching the TV show without having read the comic book. And then she said, I got to read this. I got to pause the show. And she borrowed my copy of The Watchman and read it. And so if a TV show gets Genevieve to go to the comic book shelf of our bookshelves, then, you know, it's pretty good. I'm sorry to do this, Andrew, but here we go again.

00:21:07 - 00:22:38 | Speaker 1:

There's been more developments in the chat about inter-Nicene fighting in my family. I love this. So David said, so, you know, Addy said that there was this fight going on. And then David said, forever the subject of Sam Wise's burns. Also, he stole my speakers when he went to college. Laughing face. I'm not bitter at all. LOL. And then Addy said, Dave, are you sure that wasn't me? And then David said, got milk? Three question marks. And then Addy said, too soon. And then I said, what are you even talking about? And David said When Sam and Addie locked me outside of the house To everyone's delight Do you still have it on film Addie So there was I do remember this moment Where David like they locked him Outside of my parents house and he was very upset He was looking through the glass though like really Intensely and very mad Sammy said David kept saying Got milk and then cackling So apparently they kicked David out of the house For saying got milk and then laughing maniacally he did it so much that they had no choice but to lock him outside and this is now known in their little triad as the got milk incident but it's funny to me because remember when that was such a thing yes got milk such a thing that my younger brother was just going around the house saying got milk and then laughing for like five minutes to the point where the older kids were like you're locked out yeah you're done uh do you remember the commercials

00:22:38 - 00:22:59 | Speaker 2:

that we grew up with it was prior to i believe it was prior to the got milk campaign although it might have been an early or a precursor to it but like the kid who would drink he was just like a kid standing in front of a white background and he would drink a glass of milk and he would transform into a big tough football player as an adult like i have maybe i don't even know if i

00:22:59 - 00:23:04 | Speaker 1:

have a memory of that or you saying it caused me to like create a false memory of it but it'd be

00:23:04 - 00:23:22 | Speaker 2:

very dim let me see if i can actually how about the milk stash yeah that was that was huge yeah moustache or something i think they called it that was that was gross i always hated that i hated that campaign with the with the milk stashes i you know i wonder if our listener william who

00:23:22 - 00:23:42 | Speaker 1:

is the dairy farmer still listening because he was a delightful fellow and whenever i start to say something about how kind of bizarre milk consumption is you know animal milk by us how bizarre I feel bad because that guy's life and schedule was bananas to me like how early he gets up and how much work it is and again just an awesome person so peace and love I had this um

00:23:42 - 00:24:08 | Speaker 2:

I had this commercial slightly wrong sorry go ahead okay what does he do well so what it is is it's um it is in front of kind of a plain background but almost like a whatever it's like they're standing in front of a curtain for some reason um and there's like a coach and he's talking to like two football players and he sends them out into the game but uh who hangs back but this little kid who's also in a football uniform but he's small and he's being ignored by the coach

00:24:08 - 00:24:39 | Speaker 3:

while he gives this little soliloquy coach i've been standing by all season will you play me look i may be small but i'm a big guy inside you just haven't seen it yet and i'm getting milk because the knee's here, so I'm growing fast. And milk's giving me a lot of what I need for strong bones and muscles. Yo, coach, give me the shot. When I'm all filled out, I could bust through that line like a runaway truck. And I'll say I owe it all to you. Yo, milk, it does a body good.

00:24:39 - 00:24:42 | Speaker 1:

That was not Patrick Warburton. I don't think so.

00:24:42 - 00:24:43 | Speaker 2:

No, no, I don't think so.

00:24:43 - 00:25:31 | Speaker 1:

I totally remember those commercials now. Oh, my gosh. The thing I was starting to say with peace and love to listeners who may work in the dairy industry, And I consume massive amounts of cheese You know and other dairy products It is interesting to me how Boy they really won a PR coup At least in the 80s And the many, you know, decades before that Of convincing us that really the only healthy thing you could do in life Was to drink as much milk as possible, you know And I know that, you know, all those TV ads and everything Those are paid for by the dairy farmers And they have the right to advertise their product, obviously But there was also just this more general sense in the culture That really, you had to drink a glass of milk a day Like, at a minimum Um, yeah, I mean, it was, it was part of the food triangle, right?

00:25:31 - 00:25:32 | Speaker 2:

Or whatever you call it. Right.

00:25:32 - 00:25:56 | Speaker 1:

But it was just so like, you know, watermelon wasn't on that list or, um, you know, a lot of other things weren't, but just milk, it's just, it's almost, it's, it's like apple pie in that we think of it as this deeply American thing. And that it's again, like we were teaching, like you got to get more milk in your kids. My guess is it's not great for kids. I mean, probably in, in, in moderation, it's fine, but there's a lot of other things your kids could be drinking. It would probably be better for them than milk.

00:25:56 - 00:26:09 | Speaker 2:

I'm not sure about that. I mean, kids definitely need a lot of calcium, and I don't know if, like, I'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm just saying that I don't know for sure if you're right, if that makes sense, because I don't know. That sounds like a pretty good country song.

00:26:11 - 00:26:15 | Speaker 1:

I'm not sure if you're wrong, but I know you ain't right.

00:26:16 - 00:26:29 | Speaker 2:

That actually is good. Go on. But, yeah, I don't know. I know you need a lot of calcium, and I don't know if there's another place to get it, but, I mean, I guess bananas, right? Sure. I'm not sure, but I'm also just wondering if should we.

00:26:29 - 00:26:48 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, maybe. I mean, and kids love milk. I'm not. Look, I don't I'm not trying to take on the dairy association, but it's just it is looking back on it. It's funny that I mean, I just grew up thinking that it was like literally the healthiest thing you could possibly consume. And I think there's probably some things that were being left out of the story because of.

00:26:48 - 00:27:06 | Speaker 2:

Oh, certainly the hormones and and what have you. I mean, the good thing is I don't think this is a topic that most of our listeners would have a strong opinion on one way or the other. So I don't think we'll probably get a lot of emails about the either health benefits or lack of benefits. What would be the opposite of a benefit of milk?

00:27:07 - 00:27:19 | Speaker 1:

The detrimental effects, maybe. You know what's amazing, Andrew? We got through this whole show without doing the quiz. So that means we can save it for next year or next summer.

00:27:19 - 00:27:29 | Speaker 2:

The quiz we were going to do today, which I don't think I even hinted at, so we're in the clear. You didn't. We're clean. It was actually originally a summer game anyway, so we can hold it over for the summer game.

00:27:29 - 00:28:24 | Speaker 1:

I also think it's so fitting that on the last TV Chill Winter Game and on the 10th day, they stalled. They blew it. Like, I love that on the last of these things, we didn't even get to the game, but that just happened, my friends. all right let's thank some donors of the day these folks are making the show possible here the 10th tbtl winter game show where we didn't even get to the winter game but we did anger some people with our nutritional advice so i do think we did some good important work here today on both sides of the milk aisle i like to think you know what andrew it's all about just cleaning up your

00:28:24 - 00:28:35 | Speaker 2:

side of the milk aisle that's what i learned in um my support group uh april ray is in columbus

00:28:35 - 00:29:03 | Speaker 1:

ohio thank you buckeye city they don't call it that do they what is it i mean it's home of the buckeyes the ohio state do you i mean do you i april if you live in columbus maybe you went to the ohio state university and this is not the time for me to be critical of that august institution which is a very fine university and they have very fine sports teams as well but i have to say the the ohio state university i always feel like i'm giving in a little bit to the pr when i add

00:29:03 - 00:29:35 | Speaker 2:

the um definite article i had never even heard of that until i started catching some well just like some occasional you know football when i started following sports as an adult and i would hear the football players say the ohio state university but when you're living there like my dad just like my dad likes college sports and he follows ohio state but he'll just say i'm watching the ohio state game right right you know yeah well i'm rooting for ohio state i never hear the ohio state university unless you're a player i feel like in the last right if you're a player

00:29:35 - 00:29:54 | Speaker 1:

being introduced on, you know, Monday Night Football, you know, the other big one that's a real PR coup is Miami, University of Miami, the one that's in Florida, they somehow have staked out the claim of just being called the U. Oh, really? I don't think I realized that. So they're, watch, now watch for this, you'll start seeing it.

00:29:54 - 00:29:59 | Speaker 2:

I can see the logo, which, I mean, it is a big U, you're right, there's no M in there, at least not as obvious, they have a, yeah.

00:30:00 - 00:30:27 | Speaker 1:

They're like the so-and-so, the you. I will give this up to Miami. Their mascot is pretty boss. It's like a pelican or an egret or something that's all spun up from being in the hurricane. Oh, okay. It's a pretty dope mascot. Anyway, thank you, April in Columbus. And thank you, Ryan Johnson in Arlington, Washington. Thank you, Ryan. You thought I was going to say Virginia. I did. I really did. You were wrong.

00:30:27 - 00:30:32 | Speaker 2:

You got me. You owe me an apology. No, actually, hold on. Let me kill the music for a second. Hey, Luke.

00:30:33 - 00:30:33 | Speaker 1:

Yeah.

00:30:34 - 00:30:40 | Speaker 2:

I'm really sorry, man. I thought you were going to say Virginia, and I thought I had you all figured out. It's okay. You contain multitudes.

00:30:40 - 00:31:03 | Speaker 1:

Yeah. It's just we've been doing a lot of shows today, and you lost it for a minute. But I get it. And it's not how many times we fall down. It's how many times we get back up. That's right. And so I'm supporting you in this recovery from that pretty offensive misstep. I appreciate you being flexible. Absolutely. You know who else is very flexible? Amanda Speer in Buffalo, New York.

00:31:05 - 00:31:25 | Speaker 2:

Now, I've been to Buffalo. Where did you go to Buffalo? I would go to Buffalo as a kid sometimes. We would see. Oh, would you drive the van with the VCR in it? I think so. I don't know about. These might have been pre-van days. Maybe it was van. I think we were in a van. We go to Niagara Falls. The Buffalo side of Niagara Falls.

00:31:25 - 00:32:05 | Speaker 1:

I would like to go to the Canada side of Niagara Falls because there's a bunch of casinos over there. Oh, really? I didn't know that. When I went up there, I stayed on the U.S. side. Well, because I had no paperwork. Remember the whole reason? Oh, yeah. This was that summer where I had been in upstate New York at this place called Chautauqua. I had lost my passport, which at that time was my only form of ID, so I decided to drive back to Seattle, not knowing that I could have actually gotten on the plane probably, but I was not going to be allowed to go into Canada with no ID, but I just stared across the falls and the river, and it just looked very cool over there. Am I? Am I? Am I?

00:32:06 - 00:32:12 | Speaker 2:

No, yeah, that's Buffalo, right? Or it's near Buffalo. I mean, Niagara Falls is Niagara. Niagara, New York.

00:32:12 - 00:32:15 | Speaker 1:

I believe Niagara, New York. Yes, but it's very near Buffalo.

00:32:15 - 00:33:12 | Speaker 2:

Okay, I just had a little panic there that I was very wrong about something. By the way, I stumbled on a sleeper of a classic movie, I think it was this summer, called Niagara. I highly recommend it. It's like a noir. You know I love me some noirs, and it's got Marilyn Monroe in it. Whoa. I'm not somebody who knows a lot of Marilyn Monroe movies except for the really big ones, but I don't know if any of the other actors are famous just by name or not. I don't recall, but I'd never heard of this movie, and I really enjoyed it. So you said it's sort of a noir film? It's got a noir vibe to it, but it's different. It's not like a private eye tracking someone down. It just has some of the other trappings of noir, but actually it's a smaller movie. It kind of really stays in this small Niagara town, and it's about these visitors who show up and find themselves embroiled in something bigger than they expected. Wow, cool. I will watch that. I am a Marilyn Monroe fan.

00:33:12 - 00:33:17 | Speaker 1:

She's really good at it. I'm also a fan of Michael Gulley in Livermore, California.

00:33:17 - 00:33:21 | Speaker 2:

Hey, Michael. Isn't he that listener? Do we give him the associate producer?

00:33:23 - 00:34:09 | Speaker 1:

No, I think you're thinking of Michael Nover in Sparrow. Oh, I am. But this Michael Gulley has called into the show. Yes, Michael Gulley, yes. We've done special segments. I think he was calling in. You know what this Michael Gulley does? He has the deep voice, and he's a big man. He has a big boy voice. He's been drinking his milk. He's growing ever bigger and stronger. And he doesn't like to use his big boy voice, but he will use it. That's who I think that is. Jessica Shard is in Portage, Michigan. I wonder if that's on Lake Michigan. Portage usually means. You know that's like a boat term Like your portage is your in port Or something actually I don't know if that's True maybe it just means to transport something Jessica probably knows And then Annette Tan is in Livonia Michigan yeah what the

00:34:09 - 00:34:19 | Speaker 2:

What I'm doing some actual I'm doing Some little bit of Recon here are these two places near Each other how close are these two listeners Andrew I have had a

00:34:19 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 1:

I've had wild times in Livonia Michigan Wait you have really absolutely when i covered the super bowl when the seahawks were playing the steelers in the super bowl uh the every hotel was booked um anywhere near the actual stadium which is in detroit ford field and so i was so low on the reporting kind of chain i was going to say totem pole but i feel like a that's probably right on the line and b there's that whole thing about lower on the totem pole was better so we've been saying it wrong kind of thing yeah anyway i was very um i did not have a lot of standing with the nfl and so i was livonia is past eight mile the place that eminem

00:35:00 - 00:35:17 | Speaker 2:

wrapped about so memorably so it was way out in livonia and so i just ended up hanging out in livonia and there was this bar called stable sports bar that i would go to every night and i made friends there and it's a whole thing so i have thoughts on livonia you certainly do um now

00:35:17 - 00:35:56 | Speaker 1:

livonia so that's right outside detroit right and you just said that and now i'm looking at how far these two locations i.e how far these two listeners jessica and annette are from each other and it is a drive it's a two-hour drive exactly like uh east west here but i'm also looking at jackson michigan because you know what's in jackson michigan luke no the halfway point between livonia and what's the other one portage so um if they wanted i'm going to jackson whoa that one that really cracked um what what were you what were you trying to do i was trying to

00:35:56 - 00:36:25 | Speaker 2:

johnny cash i'm going to jackson oh okay yeah turn the loose of my coat and then uh june carter cash says yeah you're going to jackson goodbye that's all she wrote you know that song jackson i do know that song it's not great when i can't i don't know enough to sing along with you but yeah i do know that okay the first line is we got married in a fever hotter than a pepper sprout so You just sing that part with me. We got married fever.

00:36:26 - 00:36:31 | Speaker 1:

Andrew, I'm really sorry to do this to you. It's not often I say this to you, but no. TVTL breaking news.

00:36:31 - 00:36:43 | Speaker 2:

I'm really sorry to do this to you, but David is checking back in on the family text, Jade. I don't know why I was saying got milk. That milk advertising campaign was pretty big at the time. It was. Also, I was a very annoying child, so that's the other explanation.

00:36:45 - 00:36:47 | Speaker 1:

Well, you're a very not annoying adult, David.

00:36:47 - 00:36:53 | Speaker 2:

No, David as an adult is the exact opposite expression of any of that stuff. He might have been as a kid. And I didn't find him to be an annoying kid either.

00:36:53 - 00:37:02 | Speaker 1:

And also, look how tall David ended up growing after drinking a lot of milk. Oh, my gosh.

00:37:02 - 00:37:03 | Speaker 2:

That's why he needed the milk.

00:37:03 - 00:37:04 | Speaker 1:

That's why he needed the milk.

00:37:04 - 00:37:11 | Speaker 2:

That's why he was walking around begging. He was actually scratching his arm. The boy was literally begging for milk.

00:37:11 - 00:37:15 | Speaker 1:

Yes, exactly. And what did it get him? Locked outside. Nice, Sammy.

00:37:16 - 00:37:19 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, take off that ridiculous growth start.

00:37:21 - 00:37:33 | Speaker 1:

Well, we did a lot of good work here today. Would you like to go out with some polka music? I would love it. How about My Fanny Polka? Or is that a little bit too blue for you? No way. That's a Friday night, baby.

00:37:33 - 00:37:37 | Speaker 2:

It's New Year's Eve. That's right. Everyone's going to be partying down to My Fanny Polka.

00:37:37 - 00:37:39 | Speaker 1:

Nice. Happy New Year's, everybody.

00:37:39 - 00:37:44 | Speaker 2:

Happy New Year. Thanks for listening. The three of you who were probably David, Sam, and Addy.

00:37:44 - 00:37:47 | Speaker 1:

stop fighting you guys

00:37:47 - 00:38:01 | Speaker 2:

thanks for listening everyone hey we're going to be back on Monday with a brand new real new episode of TBTL so we do hope you'll join us for that as well till then have a great weekend happy new year all of that and please remember no mountain too tall

00:38:01 - 00:38:09 | Speaker 1:

and good luck to all I mean the recording is just so clean

00:38:14 - 00:38:15 | Unknown:

I wouldn't shake.

00:38:16 - 00:38:23 | Speaker 2:

Fanny, Fanny, why don't you shake? I would try to shake my Fanny, but my Fanny wouldn't shake.

00:38:23 - 00:38:53 | Unknown:

Thank you.

00:38:53 - 00:39:18 | Speaker 1:

Power out.

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