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What happened? Oh, well, it's really quite funny. I was in bed sleeping at two o'clock this morning. My wife comes in and says, someone ran into the shop. And I said, oh, what? So I jumped out of bed and all I had was my undies on. And I've walked out the front and I've seen the car smashed. And I've seen the bloke walking back to the car. And so I've walked outside and I said, oh, what are you doing, mate? Like, you can't be leaving the scene. And he goes, don't be a hero, mate. And I said, I'm not trying to be a hero. but the police are coming and he just decided he'd scoot up the road and I just said, nah, it's not going on like that, mate. So I jumped in my car and I started chasing him up the road and then he went down a side street and then the police were coming and I flashed him and sent them off in the direction of him. But, mate, all I had was me jocks on and I was chasing him up the street and I'm just like, mate. Do you feel like a hero? Oh, not really. It's just something you've got to do for the community, mate. It's like you look after your mates and your mates will always look after you. T-B-T-L

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It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday Everybody's looking forward to the weekend

In this business of show You have to have the heart of an angel And the hide of an elephant You are in business with a couple glue-sniffing squish heads

Why don't I tell you all about it over a hot, steaming mug of beer and a cup of cold corn?

I'm such a sucker for content. All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. My name's Luke Burbank. I'm your host. coming to you today from the MGM Grand, just off of Tropicana in beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada. Is it beautiful? I don't know, really. I was out on a jog today, and there's some unbeautiful parts, let me tell you, and I witnessed them. But here we are for episode 3593 in a collector's series. Over there in a sin city of his own creation, the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington, is my friend Andrew Walsh, who's joining us right now. Hello, sir. Hey, Luke.

You know, the only experience I have in Las Vegas is when you and I drove an RV to an RV park just outside of Vegas, or maybe within Vegas city limits. And we spent the night at, like, I love dive bars, but like the diviest of dive bars.

Wasn't it called like Five Aces or something? It had some kind of. That's a great thing. I thought that's some kind of gambling or poker-related name of the bar, but I mean, it was bleak. I believe there was somebody who wet themselves at the bar and it went unremarked upon.

Indeed. That's when I realized it was next-level dive bar. And then I think he might have gone to take a nap in a booth after relieving himself in the most convenient way possible. I also remember you showing me how to play video poker for the first time, something that I've had the opportunity to play a few times since then. It's just a very, I'm 45 years old, and that's my only Vegas experience. I just don't think that's very common.

I have had, as of course the listeners know, many a Vegas experience, many of them with this guy who's sitting across the table from me, the one, the only, from the Stack of Dimes podcast, and you blew it, our friend Camaro Kev. Welcome to the show.

Hey, guys. How's it going?

Kevin, is this your first time in Vegas?

Yes. Yeah. Been to Reno many times. And Tahiti. No, but never Vegas.

Biggest little city in the world. How was the rest of your night last night, Kamara, after we partied company? So we, Kevin's here, our friend Katie, our friend Jessica, Neil, Genevieve, of course, is here. We're really only missing an Andrew. Are you jealous you're not here, Andrew, for the hang?

Honestly, no. I mean, I love all of you very much, but I'm enjoying my Andy time. I'm king of the household right now, Luke. I can do whatever I want at any time, which is exactly what life is like when Genevieve is here as well. So I don't know why that delights me. But I like a little alone time, you know. I was playing video games last night. I was harvesting some wheat in Minecraft. It's just like it's a party over here too, my dude.

Yeah. So we all got together. This weird thing happened. And so I'm staying for one night here at this hotel because the hotel I'm moving to, the Cosmo, was prohibitively expensive last night for some reason. It was like stratospherically. There's actually a hotel called the Stratosphere. I don't know why I picked that word. I think it's just called the Stratosphere.

Strat. Oh, really? They rebranded it. Oh, God. No one has time to say Stratosphere anymore. They had, like, the quants were looking, they're like, why are we not booking more rooms? It's because people don't have the time to say Stratosphere. But if we just have them say the Strat, that will drive, you know, occupancy up by 30%. Anyway, the hotel that I'm moving to, the Cosmopolitan, was insanely expensive for Thursday night. So I'm here because this hotel was much more affordable. But when I checked in, the person at the front desk said, you know, there's a penthouse room. It's like 40 more dollars or something. I was like, yeah, I'll take that. And so I have this like massive, huge, almost like apartment. So we were all hanging out here in the apartment last night. It was quite fun. But then we all kind of scattered to the wind. You had a plan to try to hit White Castle, Kevin, and that didn't work out. What did you end up doing?

Well, on my way to White Castle, I had to get. I can't even believe I'm saying this to people. I had to find some distilled water for my CPAP machine.

I didn't know where that was going to go. I thought you were going to talk about just doing something. Did you have to go to Walgreens or something? They're going to be debasing yourself on the streets of Vegas. I thought that's what was coming with that.

Turns out they're sold out.

Really? Supply chain issues, my friend.

Another gentleman in line was like, they're sold out all over town.

Wait, wait, wait. There's a distilled, bro. Any kind of distilled water, or is there a specific CPAP-branded distilled water you've got to buy?

It's just distilled water.

I promise you, by the way, Shaq endorses a specific CPAP distilled water. There is nothing that Shaq is not endorsing at this point in life.

It's called CPAP-02.

So think about that. I left here going, okay, the number one thing is get distilled water. So I stopped at Walgreens, and they were out. And so this is why, like, I sound like I'm sick right now, but that's all because I snored like a goddamn freight train last night.

Oh, because you just can't use the CPAP if you don't have the distilled water.

I guess. I think you can, but it's really weird.

Well, you know what's funny? Yesterday on the show when I was in Austin, I talked about how I made my own neti pot in the hotel room with a water bottle. And I just put some warm water in it and just squeezed the water bottle and shot the – It worked. It worked, but then I had like a headache and my ears were ringing because it was just tap water. I think it's bad to run non-distilled water through your otolaryngological situation.

You'll have some sort of like Rathacon worm burrowing your brain.

Yeah, exactly. So I learned my lesson on that yesterday. So you went sans CPAP last night. So our mission today, when we're done with all of this, is to find you some distilled water so you can get a good night's sleep.

But my friend said all over town. So, you know, this could be an adventure.

That is the strangest thing. So is it actually a supply chain issue or is it that we Americans, so many of us are now using CPAPs, that in a place like Las Vegas, if it's a busy time, that's something that just gets kind of snapped up by people?

Good question.

Yeah.

Is it, I mean, if you bought, like, just bottles of water at, like, a convenience store, like, first of all, how much water does this thing take? Oh, I don't need. What is that?

I don't need much at all. And that's the problem, too, when you travel with this stupid thing is that distilled water is basically in a gallon. You cannot, like, buy it just a little bit. Oh, okay. It's always in that, you know, the giant water aisle, and it's always, like, two gallons or a gallon. So it's always, like, I use, like, maybe, like, two cups, maybe a cup. I don't know.

Oh, so just going to, like, the convenience store and, like, buying, like, a bottle of water that's not clean enough, that's not actually distilled. I wouldn't have known that.

Well, so says the, I don't know, the... The CPAP. The big money CPAP. Yeah, big CPAP. Big CPAP says no go on that.

A couple things. One, do you remember the last time, Kevin, that we were doing a broadcast from Las Vegas? Speaking of the stratosphere.

That's so funny because I was thinking about that on the way down here because I was like, okay, like, what were we, 22 or something?

Yeah. This is a kind of a famous story on the show. But I had a weekend show on KVI back in the day, and I think they had just given it to me. So I didn't want to take time off, but I wanted to go to Vegas with our crew of people. And so I somehow talked the Stratosphere observation deck, which had an ISDN line, which was like, you know, basically kind of what we're using now, except the, you know, old school version. And I talked him into letting me use it to do whatever the Luke Burbank show or something. And it was tough sledding because we were pretty hungover. We were trying to take calls on like tax policy because it was ostensibly a political show. Right. I believe our friend

Russell the veteran Kurth was sort of there in the background loitering and what I really remember was the engineer the guy who was nice enough to set up the technical side the Tom Lycus show had been there all week leading up to our appearance and so he came in on his Saturday because I think he thought it was going to be another sort of hootenanny with you know maybe scantily clad women and things like that going on and it was a real buzz kill for him when it was just you and me and the veteran and me trying to get people to call in to talk about taxes or something i was saying to genevieve on

the way down i was like uh like at 22 we did a broadcast and here we are like 45 things have not

changed very very little has changed yeah i had a weird experience when i got to this hotel yesterday i went to unpack some of my clothes and i realized i had left like two shirts and also a jacket that i wear a lot when i'm doing tv shoots i'd left them in the closet of the hotel in austin that i was at yesterday and i called them and they said the room has been clean they sent me to lost and found or loss prevention or whatever and the guy went back to the room and said well no we didn't find anything and i thought what's the market for stealing like a couple of j crew slim cut untucked shirts and a american eagle chore coat like and the reason i know i had it is because i've this whole week i've been watching edits of my interview with kirsten dunce and i'm wearing it in on tv so i know i had it it's not here i can visualize they were just hanging in the closet i don't understand why somebody would take that i mean i'm not trying to besmirch the the the good name of like the housekeeping staff i don't know where in the chain this thing got lost but it just seems like there's no value to it like if it was a laptop if it was something that you might think people might want to actually have like who wants my clothes well who took my clothes out of that closet and now won't fess to it exactly a fan a fan yeah this is exactly what we learned at nathan hale high school when we i took a broadcast class and the main thing it was so weird if you wanted to get on the student radio station knhc you had to take intro to radio taught by this guy named mr nielsen but the whole class was just watching movies we watched the movie groundhog day i don't know what the lesson there was but it's a good film we watched the movie play misty for me starring clint eastwood where he plays a jazz disc jockey in like carmel california who has a stalker and the reason we watched play misty for me was so that we would learn to use a pretend radio name so we wouldn't get stock that was the entire point of watching play misty for me that was what this caller this this woman would call into clint eastwood's radio station and say play misty for me that was her thing and i think she like kills him or almost kills him at the end that's what's happening to me now someone stole my clothes out of the hotel room in austin uh because of you know some kind of uh they're a little bit too much of a fanatic

about my work exactly the question is which work are they fanatics about is it tbtl is it live

is it your cbs sunday morning thing it's the luke burbank show from kbi they were they were the one they were the one listener 20 years ago dear god kevin that was over 20 years ago yeah i know

goodness gracious maybe they just got a you know good deal at plato's closet is that where you go

and sell clothes uh the kids do that right i maybe i mean actually you know the street value these clothes is not nothing because they were like i said it's two shirts from j crew those So probably 80 bucks a piece. Holy smokes. And the problem is it's just a jacket that I really like. It's light. If you do happen to notice me on TV, I'm almost always wearing it because it kind of looks like a blazer. But it's not quite as formal as wearing a blazer, but it looks a little bit dressed up. I don't even know if I can get another one. It was very random. I don't know even where I bought it. But, yeah, that was just the weirdest thing. So I guess that stuff is in the wind. But what are you going to do?

You're going to find it somewhere.

That's the thing. Every time I think something is stolen, I've just put it somewhere.

It's going to be like in another bag that you forgot about.

Yeah, I've put it somewhere. I mean, it turns out very few people are trying. Kevin is checking my backpack, Andrew, as we speak, to see if maybe I stashed the clothing. I promise you, right after I call the hotel and read them the riot act and get two to three people fired, I will then open a flap in my suitcase and there will be the stuff that I think was stolen.

Will you call him back and be like, you're right, I'm sorry.

No, I won't.

I'm sorry. Can I ask you guys a question? I don't know if this is too much personal information, but Luke, we were talking on the show yesterday. You were flying from your gig in Texas directly to Las Vegas. Now, because of various scenarios, some flights being canceled and rebookings and what have you, the entire Seattle contingent, Camaro Kev.

Genevieve the gang all ended up on the same plane flying out of Seattle yesterday and I started getting text messages from Genevieve saying hey guess what happened now I just want to give a tiny bit more context again something that we alluded to on the show the other day this trip has been in the works and seems almost cursed it started two years ago based on a David Lee Roth concert that was then canceled because of the very beginning of COVID shut everything down. Two years later, David Lee Roth rebooks the show. You guys rebook your plans. You're in Vegas to see the show. I think three days ago, you learned that it was canceled again because of the latest surge. And you guys decided, well, we'll go. We'll have a weekend in Vegas anyway. But Luke, you were the only one traveling separately. You got there first from Texas. I get a text message from Genevieve she says you're not going to believe this all five of us just boarded the plane then we had to deplane because there was some missing part I don't know some broken part on the plane

yeah what happened with that there was water leaking from you know like where you put the bags above so it was actually three rows in front of me so I watched it

was it like a significant amount of water

I didn't notice it and then all of a sudden one of the flight attendants came over and started taping

Oh, Christ.

I think, like, paper towels up underneath where the baggage goes.

Yeah.

I think someone complained that water was dripping on them.

By the way, that person, snitches get stitches. I don't care. Yeah. Just take it. Because all that is is condensation. It's fairly common on planes to have a little water droplet. Yeah. Like, whoever complained and made you all deplane and get on a different plane, that person is on my list.

Yeah, what's funny, though, is like the crew came in that, you know, needs to assess things, opened up all of the, you know, looked in there, and then they were like talking like, eh, there's a problem. Then they opened the other side. So they exited like three rows, like these, you have to leave, we're going to deal with this. And then they started looking at it and talking amongst themselves, and then they're like, we got to look across the aisle and see, and they opened that one up, and I could see it was rusting in there.

Maybe this person saved all of your lives.

But there was a guy sitting by –

I still would have said, let's just fly.

Well, there's a guy sitting next to Genevieve who we couldn't figure out. Like he was a chemist or he said something that he was like, you know, I know a thing or two. But he's like, once we get in the air, the pressure will seal that and it will stop dripping.

Yeah, see, you know, as much as I don't want to die in a plane crash, I would fly even if like the door wouldn't shut. Like, if there was just – I'd be like, everyone just buckle up and don't go near the door. Like, if the door fell off and they were like, get off the plane or we're going to fly with no door, I'd be like, we'll be fine. Let's go with no door.

I think collectively the entire plane was that way. We were like, it's fine. Everybody that – Genevieve, Toon, everyone who came down were all like, yeah, tape's fine. Let's go. I wasn't worried. Now, if my wife was there, she would have been like, get us off now. Is she a nervous flyer? Yeah. She'd be like the second she saw tape come out, get me off, get me out of here.

I want to know, though, Luke, was there a moment where you following this from Vegas and was there a moment where you were sitting somewhere in Las Vegas thinking, am I the only one who's going to end up in Vegas for this trip? And of course, you've been flying all over the place the past few weeks anyway.

i was worried that the flight was going to be canceled because the airline stuff is so weird right now and then if it was going to be canceled and then like if it was going to be like three o'clock tomorrow before you guys could get here i was like i don't know if i'm gonna make it i was like maybe i'll just rebook you know and i'll just head home or something but it all worked out you guys actually i was surprised that you were able to get on another flight as quickly as

you did and it all turned out fine yeah i we we thought for sure it was a done deal we weren't

We're going to make it because they didn't even when they got you off of plane. Number one, they didn't even have another plane is what I did not. And that's usually bad news. But yeah.

And I heard one of the flight attendants behind me as we're leaving. Someone asked her, like, what are the possibilities that we'll get into the plane? She's like, well, planes are very difficult right now. And I was like, oh, this is done.

Yeah. You know, 25 year old Luke would have been like, hey, we solo weekend in Vegas. you know we'll make this fun 45 year old luke is like i'm gonna go home and sleep in my own bed

well you've been also it all worked out i said this to you yesterday too you've just been burning the the candle at all three ends somehow your candle has three ends and you've been burning them all i laid it in the middle as well oh that's so good no it isn't but anyway yeah so here we are

uh i'm you know i don't have my full complement of clothing can i borrow some underwear by the way I can't look at you.

I, I,

I did bring a couple of pairs in case of, you know, you never know. Issues in Vegas. You never know. You get that buffet, you got a turned crab in there, something's not good.

I mean, this is, of course, the town that launched the George Brett story. That's true. That more or less made TBTL a show.

Kokomo's, R.I.P.

I mean, that tape of George Brett talking about having a bathroom accident here in Las Vegas. I remember, Kevin, you and I sitting in a Jack in the Box parking lot in Lake City and playing a CD of that that you had burned and just dying. And then on that Monday, the following Monday, I went in and did TBTL. It was still a radio show. And we played that tape. And then I told the story of crapping my pants at the Kingdom. And it happened to be that the stranger was there that night, Eli Sanders. Pulitzer Prize winner, Eli. This is not what he won the Pulitzer for. Pulitzer Prize winner Eli Sanders Was there doing a piece about TBTL And basically it was like a four page article About George Brett pooping And me pooping my pants at the kingdom And to this day A large, maybe less so now But for a long time, a big percentage Of the people who knew about the show Read that stranger article And it was all because of you Burning that CD of George Brett Telling the story of pooping his pants

Andrew will appreciate this I actually sweetened it up, too. Like, I compressed it. And there's parts of that audio that, like, cut out. I cut all that out. So, like, I still have that CD.

Oh, I love it. Yeah. I mean, like, you had the technology to digitally sweeten the sound, but we were still in the – now I'm going to burn it onto a CD phase of technology as well. So I'd love to know what you were sweetening it with.

Audacity. Audacity, yeah. audacity it's free it's it's shareware all right let's do this let's take a quick break then we

come back i do want to talk a little bit about ces which is happening here sort of a lot of people

have pulled out but it is still yeah i think today's the last day but the washington post

has written up some of the technology that's being rolled out at ces including a stuffed dog that nibbles on your finger like a robot dog that chews on your finger so that you feel comforted so we'll talk about that and some other stuff when we come back here on TBTL

all right let's thank

some donors of the day these wonderful generous people making the show possible today with their financial support folks like Kelly Raber Of Bellevue, Washington Kelly, thank you so much For supporting the program Sorry, Kelly, that you're supporting an episode Where there is a tremendously loud hum In the background I don't know if you can hear that in Seattle, Andrew But this palatial room that they put me in For all of its grandeur Also sits atop Like the HVAC Field of this Enormous hotel I mean, just the Just the environmental damage that this city is doing, I mean, not to make light of it, but, like, you just look at, like, what it takes to keep the climate in the MGM Grand stable and consistent is just shocking. And so there is, like, there's basically some kind of HVAC thing that's roughly the size of, like, a Motel 6 itself that sits on the roof of this hotel, which we're looking out on. So anyway, sorry about the noise. I don't think anybody can hear it.

I certainly can't.

Okay, that's good. Oh, that's good to know. It's very loud in this room. Really loud. Yeah. This is really, this round of donors is going to be where I apologize to each donor for a different thing. Veronica Whedon of Ojai, California. I'm sorry, my voice is a little froggy. This is what happens when you...

CPAP issues.

Yes. This is what happens when you don't have your distilled water. But thank you for the support. Ojai, California is gorgeous, by the way. I don't think I'd ever been there until this summer. And, oh, it is just lovely. Timothy Mackey is in Tacoma, Washington. Timothy, I'm sorry we don't have any audio drops today That's because the system that we're using Was either Camaro Kev or the audio drops

I would have chose the drops

The listeners love you on the show, Kevin But sorry we don't have our full compliment of drops Mary Perona, hey, in Bellingham, Washington Mary, I'm sorry I had to move out of Bellingham But, you know, with the divorce and all It just seemed to be the wise decision But we really appreciate you supporting us Hope things are good up there in the Bay City

Listeners, you were not married to Mary Perona, right? Not that I remember. That wasn't the divorce. You know me. You didn't have to move out because you and Mary DeVores. We can't rule it out. Okay, okay.

Yeah. K.J. Williams is in Brunswick, Maine.

Brunswick, Maine. Thank you, Kate. I'm out of things to apologize.

You know, there's a pretty big delay on the line, which means that you and I, we don't have our usual, like, for some reason, we're just like, you know. Snappy banter. Yeah, exactly. So I'll apologize for that. Sorry about the delay on the line. Nice.

And then Rebecca Butler. Oh, Rebecca's in one of my favorite places in the world, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Gosh. You would think I would have an endless string of things to apologize for. And I really do. But none of them are coming to mind. Anything you need to apologize for, Kevin? Anything you need to get off your chest?

No. Okay.

Well, Rebecca, thank you for your support.

I'm sorry that we don't have an apology for you, Rebecca.

There you go. Ding. Where's my bell? Sorry I forgot to bring my bell. God, I need that thing. My little desk bell. Thank you, Andrew. It is amazing how much I miss that when I forget to bring it on the road. The two things for me that I'm...

That isn't a drop. That's an actual physical bell.

Well, we have it as a drop. But I also have a physical bell. And it is amazing. This little kitchen timer and my little bell, when I have those things, they're like my comfort items when I'm doing the show. And it's amazing how often I just punctuate something by hitting the bell. When I don't have it, it throws me off. So, Rebecca, I'm sorry. I forgot to bring my bell. But we do appreciate the donations and the support from our donors of the day. Thanks for making TBTL possible. We couldn't be here without you. All right. Let's talk a little bit about what is going on here at this CES thing. They have rolled out all kinds of technology, as you might imagine, a fitness tracker for your cat. I guess the new world of like, because, you know, our watches, our Apple watches, things like that are now tracking us, our blood pressure, all that stuff. They're now creating that sort of stuff for your pet so that you know how your cat is doing, which actually doesn't seem like the worst idea. Because these things, you know, they can't report to us how they're doing. So if their blood pressure drops or if their heartbeat is erratic, this will tell you that.

As someone who has a cat now, a kitten, Pretzel, and I think a listener, Liz, who's stopping by and taking care of Pretzel.

Yeah. Really? Did you find Liz through TBTL?

No, she moved into the unit next door. Oh, right. And she just ends up.

And she happened to be a TBTL listener?

Yeah, and a friend of Katie.

Oh, my gosh. Small world.

Um, but, uh, I thank you for that. And, uh, but yeah, what's, what's the purpose of that? Cause what are you going to have a conversation with your cat and be like, Hey, you need to step it up, brah. Uh, this is cause I, I kind of, I know that cats kind of do what they want to do regardless of whatever's being tracked on them.

Well, here's what they say in this article. Heart conditions are as common for dogs as they are for humans by analyzing data on heart and breath rate from a bunch of different pets. this it's one of these kind of also like crowdsource things so if there's enough it's like ways if there are enough pets wearing this thing they'll actually be able to get some data together and and figure out you know what what might be wrong with an animal and treat it sooner the thing that I was really fascinated with well there were two things one I'm going to show Kevin this picture these augmented reality glasses this got my attention because the person who wrote this article said augmented reality glasses that don't look that ridiculous Now, Kevin, look at the glasses on this guy. It is like he looks like he should be on a game show. Kevin, could you be a lamb and let them know that we have a late checkout? Sure. We're getting a knock on the door. Why is that, by the way, the most mortifying thing when housekeeping shows up and we're doing this show for a hotel room?

Is Kevin going to open the door too wide so that they'll see you behind your microphone and you'll die of embarrassment? I'm hiding. I'm around a corner. Thank God.

One o'clock, Kevin. We got a one o'clock checkout here. Juppet. Drop Juppet's name. That was the name of the woman who gave me the late checkout. The glasses, these augmented reality glasses this guy is wearing, he looks like somebody on a celebrity game show from the 70s. They're comically huge.

Yeah, they're really large.

And, you know, these are not like the Facebook glasses, the Snapchat ones that take pictures. These are ones where the lenses will actually show you like a computer screen. So you're looking – if I was looking at you, Kevin, I could see Pokemon Go's dancing around you, all this stuff. It is augmented reality. But in order for them to work, they have to be comically huge. I can't see anyone wearing these glasses. They're like roughly 50% of the entire head of this tech correspondent.

Now, glasses are moving in a very big direction these days. I mean, is there a chance that we haven't peaked on the size of the glasses? And maybe these are just like, what is the logical end point?

Is it like, you know, the kind that you get at the fair? That are like the massive, like those plastic ones that are like...

Economically, will people be wearing those unironically at some point? Because that's where we'll get with the large size of glasses.

Why do those make me think of Gallagher or something?

I'm thinking of Charles Nelson Reilly. Like when you pick at Charles Nelson Reilly, that's as big. Are these bigger than his?

They're bigger than his.

Oh, wow. Okay, wow. Then, yeah. Massive. I don't know if we're going to get that big in the fashion sense.

is there something going on with the um like are are we seeing the screen like what that picture is awful that the picture they use to be like yes uh you know augmented reality glasses that don't look ridiculous and they look absolutely ridiculous why did they choose that picture it's like it's almost like you could see a screen reflected yeah it's basically like somebody

took two laptops yes right formed them vaguely into the shape of glasses and now you're wearing them like it's i always come back to this but it's like the simpsons episode where homer agrees to wear a wire but they they go we've it's actually a camera they go we've created a camera so small it can fit in this oversized novelty cowboy hat and it's so huge like you can you can only wear it for 10 minutes but it will permanently injure your neck and yes i think it was the episode where it has to do with the quickie mart but he goes Homer goes into the quickie mart wearing this giant cowboy hat that has a huge camera lens in it and Apu says like why is your hat buzzing it's basically like that of glasses the other thing that I think is kind of interesting from this year's CES is this robot that nibbles on your finger it's called Amagami Ham Ham and in the article they say it might look like a small plush cat or dog but it's robotic innards mean it can give you a light chomp when you need a little reassurance all you need to do is put your finger in its mouth so it's there's apparently something about this stuffed animal lightly nibbling on your finger that some people find

relaxing or comforting that is sick i i would be comforted by that i would too i was gonna say i

get sick because you would be comforted yeah i thought luke that you were i thought you'd be

down with this and it sounds like you are yes i would there's something about i mean i know that there's there's a very real thing for people that are on the autism spectrum where they like the feeling i mean some people like the feeling of being kind of hugged and held and temple grandin who is the kind of a well-known professor who also happens to be autistic when she was a kid she invented a squeeze machine for herself because she found that when she would wedge herself into the couch cushions she felt comforted by it and so then she because her brain is quite incredible actually she developed this thing i think had a series of like air bladders that she could power so it would squish her and then i think she actually mass produced it or at least made it so that other people could buy these machines so i'm not saying that i'm on the spectrum but i kind of can understand a little bit the feeling of comfort i would get from it's kind of like when your cat yeah well chomps on your finger in real life a little bit like

nicely i was gonna go there because more pretzel time on the show but but we have this new kitten And I haven't had a kitten or a puppy probably since I was a kid. My parents, you know what I mean? And so it's been kind of weird. Well, Andrew, you came over and you saw Pretzel and you were kind of surprised at the kitten way of living, right? Because you have older cats, right?

Yeah, exactly. Well, like Bananas is, you know, Professor Bananas, our cat, who we still think of as our young kitty cat, but as we realize, 11 years old and technically a senior. oh man she's so skittish now she's been especially since Theo died she's like almost a different cat like she snuggles with us all the time now like she'll sit on my lap I mean she's almost she needs affection which is very very sweet and very nice and I'm appreciating it but her entire 11 years like she is so scared of strangers Luke I think you've seen her as a blur running away from you one time Kevin have you ever laid

eyes on her? I will sometimes see her at the top of the like midway down the stairs she'll peek her head around

Yeah, yeah. And so that bums me out. I wish that she wasn't so skittish, but she is who she is. But anyway, all of that is to say that I kind of forgot that a lot of cats, I was going to say normal cats, but most of the cats that I've known in my life before, Bananas, have been the type of cat that come up to you and they want affection. I've always, like, kind of bonded with cats, like, kind of immediately. And so seeing Pretzel just, like, be not afraid of me and just be so, like, gregarious. Can cats be gregarious and playful? And boy, does she go for the feet.

Yeah. I feel like you and Anita have now had two cats that were – because Manolo was very social. And they had that, what, torbitude, I believe it was called?

Yeah, that's what they say, yeah.

Yeah, you guys have had good luck with that.

Yeah. What I was going to say was that

The pretzel likes to lick, which seems gross. But if I'm watching TV, she'll sometimes just lay down next to my arm and just lick my arm while I'm watching TV. So I get that comfort. And then when she stops, I'm like, no, keep going. But there's something comforting about it.

Yeah, the little sandpapery tongue. There's some real cognitive dissonance that has to be employed. i think about this with like rudy because i always wanted rudy to come up and like rudy was i again i'm not trying to be glib here but i've wondered if pets can be on the spectrum i think rudy was is possibly on the if there was such a thing as a like a i would say a spectrum for pets as far as social is it rudy would never make direct eye contact with me if it could be you know rudy would she was odd i mean i loved her very much and she's doing great in bellingham but like she she didn't usually want to come and lick my face but i kind of wanted her to so if she ever was in the mood i'd be like this is fun except i would also watch her thoroughly clean her own anus yeah i know with that same tongue and yet i wanted her to kiss me even though i had also seen what she had been doing and i don't i can't understand why my brain was okay with that it is weird um this uh company that makes the Amagami Ham Ham also makes something called Kubu. Kubu is a robotic cat butt. So imagine if a cat was like under the couch and only its butt and tail were sticking out. Jeez. This Kubu is like a pillow that just looks like a cat butt with a tail on it and you pet it and the tail does things and it's also supposed to be comforting. Like based on how you pet it, then the tail will react or sometimes it'll just, if you're not even doing anything, the tail will just start going just kind of as comfort. But it's interesting that it's not the whole cat. It's just a cat butt. And this is apparently very popular in Japan.

Can I pay more? Can I pay more to get the whole cat?

Maybe. Hey, speaking of tech things, the Elizabeth Holmes trial is now, I mean, I say over. I mean, there's been convictions, and I don't know if she's appealing. I assume she probably is. She could get 20 years, but they say she's probably going to get much less than that. But a couple of things. I guess all one we were talking on the show earlier this week about the word swag I've always said like you know if I got a something from a key chain from a radio station I'd call that swag yeah a swag bag a swag bag right but if you look it up on the internet it's swag they act it's like there's like a S-C-H-W-A-G swag and if you look up swag S-W-A-G there's no mention of it except this article from the San Francisco Chronicle about all this theranos swag that's suddenly for sale on ebay like people are trying to sell like theranos windbreakers for like nine hundred dollars anything with anything that they were making at theranos that was just like adjacent to the company like letterhead someone is trying to sell i think it was a business insider magazine it was a magazine that had elizabeth holmes on the cover as like you know an example of like a breakthrough company yeah i think they're trying to sell that

for like a thousand dollars now there was there were two magazines one was a new york times magazine with her on the cover that one was going for two thousand dollars again i don't know if going for is the right term there because i don't know if anybody's actually someone's asking but somebody's asking two thousand then there was another magazine like w magazine that she's on the cover of or something that was going for a much more modest like three hundred dollars which

who wouldn't pay for that yeah actually i have to say though a theranos windbreaker would be kind of funny to have it would be kind of a it would be a kind of a funny look yeah um yeah you know we haven't really talked about this case a whole lot i mean it seemed to me i mean there was some there was a certain amount of conversation around is what were they going after elizabeth holmes harder than they would have gone after say a man in the same situation considering so much of silicon valley is just basically lying and over hyping your thing to get angel investors until your thing actually works and they're you know silicon valley is littered with startups that never went anywhere where the people who are you know in charge of them were were more or less lying and a lot of those people are not going to jail elizabeth holmes is going to go to jail um it seemed to me though that the thing she got convicted of and what she did that was really not cool was forging documents saying that there were contracts that's more than just like standing in a boardroom and telling investors like we're going to make a magical company for you that's actually like that's forgery and that's lying and i mean the other thing too i thought was kind of interesting was somebody pointed this out on twitter none of the things she was convicted on were related to actually putting these faulty test machines out to the public so like the idea that you were telling people we're going to test your blood and tell you if you have like cancer or something and that

the machine you did that with didn't work nobody's in trouble over that she's in trouble for defrauding

Thank you.

rich people of some of their riches that's what we care about in this country which is kind of

weird to me i did not know that yeah i haven't been for a huge of a story this has been for the past year or whatever um i haven't really been following the details uh very closely the forgery thing um i didn't know about that either have you guys ever forged anything if i'm a cop i have to tell you by the way so um i'm not a cop i i forged something i'm not

i'm not proud of it uh-huh and i kind of can't believe it worked uh-huh i can't think of uh

a time like i you know i had friends who would you know maybe something for height like in high

school maybe what was your thing luke this is already me rationalizing you can hear it in my was when i was very very very broke very broke like right out of college um i didn't have auto insurance and i got pulled over and i got a ticket for not having insurance and i got insurance the next day and i basically faxed from kvi that i basically told the court oh i had insurance i didn't have it on me and they said you have to prove it and i faxed them my insurance information but i knew that the kvi fax was really bad like it was like well back then i mean yeah it's like it'll show up like all pixelated exactly so i basically faxed this thing this is kind of on the line of forging it was lying basically i faxed them my insurance information which if they would have looked closely was one day off but as it went through i think it probably just sent them a blurry Enough facts or they didn't care that much They just let it go and it was like a $500 ticket which was I mean that would have I'd still be paying it off to this day It would have financially crippled me So that's not exactly forgery because I didn't Forge it but I did submit a piece Of paperwork hoping that they Wouldn't check the details and they didn't

I had some of this Going on in my school days My parents held me to a pretty High standard I was in the unfortunate position of having a sister who is three years older than me and got really good grades in school and so she blazed this path of um you know of high expectations that i i regret uh to this day um and i you know while she was turning in mostly a's with the occasional b i became the student who was turning in probably mostly b's with the occasional a and c but c's were not um smiled upon in in my family they were almost treated like d's or f's which i never really got until i want to say i got a report card with a d but this was so early on that they were still handwritten report cards you guys remember handwritten report cards right like the teacher actually just like filled out this blue um piece of like stock yes they were on like carbon they

were like on that kind of what do you call it carbon copy paper or something ditto paper

Ours were on like pieces. They were almost like cardstock almost like like the thing that you would find in the back of a library book back then, too. Anyway, I remember like, well, first of all, there were plenty of times where I think maybe not plenty, but the occasional times where like a note would come home with you, not a report card. The parents are waiting for the report card. Right. But if you're doing something, you know, outside, you know, you get you didn't do your homework or whatever four days in a row. the teacher will send a note home well the parents don't know that that's a note so i think there were times where i tried forging my dad's signature my mom's was impossible to forge it was so like kind of delicate and light but i could sort of forge my dad's i think i did that once or twice but then the the real coup de grace was one of these blue report cards came in with my first ever d and i i mean i could not face the reality i i don't know what my i don't know if i would be here today no I don't I mean I wasn't good in I'm you know my guess is it would have been a more of a mathy or sciencey kind of thing but I really don't know it probably had a lot to do with me not turning in assignments and what have you but I turned that that so shocks me Andrew that you

because that's the kind of kid I was I never turned anything and I was constantly in trouble but I would have thought you would have been very rule following with that stuff I really did not

like school um and and so i was not that great in school and i was also scared to death that the d stood for death in my family so i changed that d into a b and i did whoa such a shitty job man you know like because then you know the pen doesn't match i just remember like you're doing it and you're not in your right frame of mind when you're forging a document but once you start

it's over right once you pop

you can't stop like once you commit to messing with that you you got your you're all in i want

to guess this is like sixth grade or something and i don't know how but like because i i did it and it didn't look right so then i went over it again and then it just was like this big blob of a b it's getting bigger yeah exactly um you get my sweat is splashing off of the page smearing the ink no i mean it was this big blob of a b and i and my parents did have to sign the report card and then i had to bring it back to school i think for proof that i showed them and i feel like there was a moment a split second where i want to say my dad signed this one and i swear there was a a split second where he commented on it or something in passing just something were you watching this happen yeah yeah and i mean i i god you know this is so long ago this is my memory of it and maybe i've exaggerated it in my head over over time but yeah i remember just like just like you know probably pen in hand going down the page okay looking at the grades and then pausing for a split second that felt like a lifetime on that janky b and moving on and then signing it and just like getting away with it i could not believe it i to this day i cannot believe it and if anybody if anybody tells my parents about this episode or this lie i will disown you

as a friend or family member did your parents care about grades kevin did pat and dale give

you grief over your grades they cared but um they didn't kind of not really yeah my parents didn't

i don't remember ever having a conversation other than when i would get occasionally expelled from school and my parents didn't like that because they'd have to come get me who you gotta let her never got expelled but as far as grades it's very weird my parents just i don't remember them ever caring what any of us got in school which is weird because every my parents didn't go to college right um but every single kid in my family has gone to college and graduated from college and all turned out you know reasonably smart people and pretty act you know fairly academic i guess my sister hannah has multiple graduate degrees my sister liz has graduate degree as well but it's weird because my my parents were just not the kind of parents who as long as we my mom just wanted us to go to school so we would be out of her hair whatever happened there like it was the kind of situation where i would go to the nurse let's be honest probably faking a stomach ache but still it was the kind of thing where you'd go to the nurse and i'd be like my stomach hurts can i go home and they'd call might call my mom they'd come back to go your mom says you're fine just wait here a little while and then go back to class so like my parents were just like whatever's happening at school is fine just don't make it our problem but yeah there was zero grade pressure i didn't have grade pressure but i

did if i got a bad grade i did like i didn't want to show my parents i didn't want to didn't want to talk about it yeah but they wouldn't there was no repercussions or anything like that they wouldn't like ground me because i got a you know bad grade or anything like that i was grounded all the time

for my grades and no really not wow yeah yeah that was the thing if you didn't turn in good grades you got grounded though can i tell you my one other i'll do a shorter version of this because i think i've told this on the show before but my yeah this would be forgery i would say my best forging moment. And this was also, I think me sort of maybe possibly taking advantage of a tough time in my family's history. My parents were going through a divorce. I was in ninth grade and, um, you know, usually if I were in trouble with something, it would be like kind of both parents, like having a very, you know, having a conversation and a stern talk with me and then figuring out what the punishment would be. Um, but you know, that was not the situation And we're going through the family was going through this divorce phase and I was in ninth grade and I was in it was a Jesuit school. This is at Walsh Jesuit. And I got caught like straight up cheating, like with a cheat sheet in my hand. The class was it wasn't Latin, but I know that my teacher was a priest or at least a brother. I think it was a priest, though. And the priest comes. I'm taking this test. I've got, you know, and I'm right handed in my left hand. I've got this cheat sheet. I'm just like, you know, getting I'm filling out the test answers. The priest comes over to me and stops at my desk and every he says, open your hand. So, of course, I open up my right hand. There's nothing in there with a pen. He says other hand and I open it up and there's my cheat sheet. I'm just caught like red handed. This is not something that I had done a lot. I had just – before this year, I had never cheated on tests before, but I had this other class with an older priest, and I had learned that I could write the answers very lightly because we would use our own notepaper, and we would know – this was a Latin class. We would know if there was a quiz.

coming up so i would write all the latin vocabulary words very very lightly in pencil on my own piece of paper then i would take the quiz which i think he would administer kind of like from the front of the class and then i would erase all of my notes um so i was feeling bold so that's very clever by the way oh god it was so good but then i'm feeling bold so i create this cheat sheet for this other class with this other priest he catches me red-handed what does he do he takes the test he takes my cheat sheet he staples them together and he writes a note but this is that this was his fatal flaw this dumb priest he wrote i need an old priest and a dumb priest he wrote andrew will explain obviously he will be getting an f but that was it so i take this home i unbend the staple as delicately as i possibly can and i remove the cheat sheet i put it somewhere safe and i take the the paper to my mom and i just say oh i got an f i was done with my test but i was talking to somebody and somebody was like goofing around with me and because we both got caught talking in class the priest said that we were both cheating and so we got an f she signs it i go i get a new because she's not going to notice two tiny holes where she's not looking for it right so i go back to my room right i get a new staple i i put it through the holes and bend it back in place i have my signed paper i took it back to the priest wow wow here's what i'm wondering

how did like how did teachers even keep track of that kind of stuff like how many things like that did that priest give out that day and if you wouldn't have brought it back the next day did he make a note for himself that's interesting like i wonder how he i wonder how he would even

remember to follow up on that i'll bet you there aren't a lot of people caught red-handed cheating during a test in a catholic school and you know let's say he's got i don't know what a class maybe five classes a day i don't know i will say this andrew if the one upside of your family

disintegrating was that you were able to get away with the fast one on your cheating we'll call that

of silver lining right exactly yep i think i remembered the one time i forged a note or whatever and it was in high school and it was to leave the campus for lunch did you guys get to do that oh yeah we're allowed to lunch or whatever so we were i think we were allowed to up until my senior year and they like kind of put the kibosh on that and you had to get a note from of your parents allowing you to do it, and I think

I forged that. What could go wrong with 30 kids piling into a Volkswagen Sirocco and trying to make it to Wendy's and back?

No Wendy's and Lake Stevens. We were either going to Taco Bell or McDonald's.

We're in Las Vegas, a great culinary city, and you mentioning Taco Bell makes me hungry for Taco Bell. They have this

fancy one here that's called the, I forget what it is, but But it's like clubbish. Oh, wow.

Is it a pop-up? Oh, no.

No, it's part of the Planet Hollywood deal. Oh, it's a Taco Bell cantina. And they've got like a DJ in there and all sorts of crazy stuff. I might have to hit that.

I might check that out. Really quickly before we get to music for your weekend, I'll just – the most famous cheating story from my life, which I think I've talked about on the show a few times, was I almost didn't graduate college because I could never get through a foreign language credit. I started off in Spanish.

That was tough for me in high school.

And I tested into the harder Spanish than I should have, and so I just had no idea what was going on, so I failed that class. Then I took Swedish because I had a crush on a girl named Megan Hallin, who is currently in one of those prescription drug ads about a lady who has IBS but still wants to camp. Really? Yeah. That is Megan Hallan, who was in the UW drama program with me, who had a massive crush on, and who was taking Swedish. So I was like, I'm going to take Swedish. And then she dropped the class. And so.

Of the things that you can't do with IBS, camping is probably, you know, you've got to shit in a hole somewhere or something. I think it's like, come on.

I think it's like Victari or something. I don't know what her ailment is in the commercial, but I know it's a lot. She does a zip line. She's setting up a tent with her husband or something.

No, wait, hold on, Kevin. And I might disagree with your premise, though. Are you saying that that is not? I mean, I feel like that would be a bad place to have IBS out in the woods without, like, a bathroom. They have another one where it's like a woman can't do her podcast because she has IBS. I'm like, oh, come on. See, I'm not joking. Are you kidding me? No, he's not serious.

He's right. They have the nicest podcast situation in their double car garage, too. It's like they have an on-air light. Are you kidding me? They have an on-air light. Yes, they have an on-air light.

She has to keep leaving to shit

Or she doesn't show up in time whatever podcast partners what's funny about that too go ahead waiting for yes waiting and

looking sympathetic but disappointed that is amazing we have reached peak podcast when it's the premise when it's the thing your IBS is holding you back from yeah no but but why do

you think camping would because I you in camping situations you're going to the bathroom if you're legit camping you're going to the bathroom in all kinds of wrong ways right like you're like you know that you're over a tree over a tree so it's like if you by the way 100 the worst part

of camping and the reason why i didn't go camping for most of my adult life was because my childhood memories of having to poop in the woods and how traumatic it was i've never done it my body just

shuts down in those situations yeah right no i'm serious i've never i used to go camping all the Same way, I've never pooped in the woods, unlike the Pope or a bear. But Luke, wait, I'm sorry. I derailed this, though. So you were in the middle of the story.

So I failed Spanish. I failed Swedish. But you have to do a foreign language to graduate from the University of Washington. And so I heard that Swahili was pretty easy because the guy who taught it was kind of a stoner, Mualimu Muhammad. and that was, I think Mualimu means teacher maybe I think Wanamfunzi means student and Mualimu means teacher, that's the two things I retained, but anyway, I heard Swahili was pretty easy and it was a it was like a summer class where it was like three, four hours a day intensive, but then you got the whole thing over with, so it was like two months of four hours a day, instead of having to do it over the course of an entire like school year, so it was kind of compressed well, there was a a girl a woman in one of my other classes who had taken that swahili class the year before and she kept copious notes and had all the quizzes and so she gave i think she must have a crush on me or something because she gave me this she was real tracy flick type from election she had this binder and it was all organized everything was you know like in those little like vinyl sleeves you know and so she gives it to me and it's everything for the class it's just it's every it's the notes from every lecture it's all the vocab and it's all of the tests done and so the first test comes around and i i have the i have the quiz and so i think i study it the day before and i ace it and i'm like this is amazing like i have i have the answer key basically so in this class i was one of the only non-football players in the class that's how you know you're in a really academically rigorous class in college when it's mostly football players so it was like me and the whole like starting offensive was in there bob sap did live in my dorm actually in mcmahon hall bob sap would always be hanging out down at the um little mini mart in mcmahon hall that guy was big yeah he's very big but it was like me and the u-dub football team and i'm trying to like make friends with these guys and i like have the quiz and i was like you you're not gonna believe this i have the answers to this whole class they're like really i was like yeah i just took the test i aced it so they're like hey can you hook us up so yeah so like i make photocopies of the next week's quiz and i distribute it to the whole football team and we get the quiz and it's totally different oh no everybody fails i gave them all the wrong answers i was i was like i mean everybody was pretty cool in that class actually i mean if it were a movie they would

have beaten me up or something well you also didn't like you didn't um charge them for this or anything right it's that like hey give us give us our money back or we're gonna hang you upside down out of the um out of the clock tower you know what this is kind of a bummer kind of a dark way

to end it but my study partner in that class was a guy named curtis williams who unfortunately became paralyzed in a uw football game and um and and has since passed away but he was a really sweet guy and by the way the football players were 100 better students than i was in this class like despite a little bit of attempted cheating like i also just remember thinking i don't have i don't have the academic rigor of these like mountainous men who are mostly lifting weights and like bashing their bodies into each other they're better students than i am which was when it was time for me to leave the university of washington all right let's do some music for your weekend before we get out of here andrew What would you like to play for the listeners

I'm going to play a song for you guys That's a couple of years old My guess is maybe a lot of people I'm realizing now that this was kind of I think maybe a quasi hit But I don't know if you guys have any music Like this in your life Where I don't even know if I like Lana Del Rey but I Definitely like there's an album of hers that I listen to A lot and I think I like that record I find her to be kind of Goofy right Just like her whole thing is Thank you.

just like so over the top but I also do sometimes like I'm just in the mood to listen to Lana Del Ray and so I was on vacation last week as you know walking around Hawaii taking photos and I

was just like listen Hawaii seems like the right place for it too yeah I'm sure that's why it

popped in my head I was just like kind of I wanted just a really chill vibe and I started listening to this one song on um I think it was her last record a couple records ago maybe uh Norman Rockwell I believe is the name of the record and it's called Do In Time and I'm listening to it and I'm liking it but it doesn't sound like her and then I look it up it's a Sublime song do you guys know that Sublime song Do In Time? well I'll play I've heard it I'm going to play for you the Lana Del Rey version you tell me like I don't know Sublime very well at all so I don't know if I'd heard the original In the Wild Do you practice Santeria? I do. So anyway, I think this is, I don't know if I like this, but I'm definitely kind of obsessed with this song. This is Lana Del Rey's version of Sublime's Doin' Time.

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I present the LBC, me, me and Louis, we're gonna run to the party and dance to the rhythm, it gets harder. Me and my girl, we got this relationship. I love her so bad, but she treats me like shit. I'm locked down like a penitentiary. She spreads her love and all over him when she gets home, there's no left for me. Summertime, and the living's easy. Rallies on the microphone with Ross and G. All the people in the dance will agree that we're well qualified to represent the LBC.

Being connoisseurs of the original, is this just irritating? Do you understand my weird fascination with it?

yeah i i am not a sublime guy i would listen to this version over the other really you're not a

sublime guy i feel like sublime is really kind of having a moment oh yeah i don't know if it's like addy's generation is is sort of back into it or something but i just feel like i'm hearing a lot of sublime i actually do like sublime um i find there's a really interesting oral history Of the recording of their Big album which is What is it just called Sublime is it eponymous But anyway sounds right They went to Austin They drove this RV to Austin And then Willie Nelson's producer produced Their famous album And then the lead singer would be dead like Shortly thereafter unfortunately died of a drug overdose Which kind of added to the weird mystique of the band Like right when they kind of blew up nationally The guy wasn't even there anymore but um if you're a sublime head google that like the it's all the people that were like involved in the recording telling stories about the recording of that uh of that album one thing

that's interesting about that just as a cover sorry and then i'll let you go luke but um it's just like it's such an interesting like because of the kind of quasi hip-hop elements of it you know like the original song he's shouting out other band members and so then you have a solo musician covering it and you just keep all that original all the original lyrics it's just It's an interesting decision to cover, and I think that adds to my fascination.

This song is – I guess I didn't plan this very well because the song I want to suggest this week is not – it's not a Vegas banger. They're not going to be playing it at the Taco Bell Cantina. I'll tell you that. DJ Chalupa won't be spinning this later tonight. DJ Quesorito. God, I could – Kevin, we're going directly to the Taco Bell Cantina after this. Let's do it. I can't believe that's what I'm going to do. I want to hear about that on Monday. Yes, full report. There's a singer named Karen Dalton who I found out about from my daughter during Christmas break. She was down at my place for Christmas and we were playing some music. There's actually a documentary out about this woman, Karen Dalton. She was part of the folk scene in New York at Cafe Waugh.

David Lee Roth's uncle owned Cafe Waugh. Really? Yeah, bring it back to the Vegas trip Uncle Manny owned that place I love that you know that

So she was kind of one of these people that was just on the periphery of the scene And a lot of singers like Dylan, you know, like she was his favorite singer, you know, but she never really made it. She also struggled with drug and alcohol addiction. I think she was involved in some relationships that were, you know, there was domestic violence. She was a bit of a tragic figure. And there's a new documentary out about her that Addie had seen and was getting into her music. But anyway, she played this song, Something on Your Mind. This is like from the 70s, this woman, Karen Dalton. But I just think this song is really beautiful and kind of, I love her. Her voice is a little kind of quirky, but I really like it. So, yeah, can you play that from Seattle, Something on Your Mind by Karen Dalton.

Tonight time Didn't you know You can't make it Without ever even trying And something's On your mind Is there Let these times Show you That you're breaking up

All right, so there you go, a little Karen Dalton. Isn't it weird how, like, I'm assuming, had either of you ever heard this song before? No, I don't think so. I think I remember that. Isn't it weird how some songs get huge and some songs don't? Because I could totally hear that being, like, a classic. Yeah. And yet, until, like, two weeks ago, I had never even heard of this person. I'd never heard that song. But I really like it, and I'm going to check out that documentary about her. She also apparently hated it. She wouldn't accept any critical feedback when she was recording in the studio. Oh, I like that. So she would just basically quit. Every time a producer was like, could you turn? She'd be like, no, I can't. Which is part of the problem for her with her career is that she just refused to compromise on anything ever.

Nice.

Which I'm also following as my career path. So here I am doing a podcast in this room with you, Kevin, 25 years later. This is where it gets you. This is where never accepting anyone's advice lands you, doing a podcast in Vegas. Our listener music suggestion is from listener Kelly, who says, Hi, Luke. I can't recall if anyone's ever suggested music from this music project, which is called Melody's Echo Chamber before, but I feel the lead singer-songwriter, Melody Prochet, and the song that I'm suggesting, which is called I Follow You, are going to check some boxes for you. A, Melody is French, And many of her songs are entirely in French Which Kelly knows that I like By the way, Kelly says This is Kelly in Bellevue, he, him I only call that out because I've been referred to As a woman when I've written in before So sorry, Kelly, that we misgendered you in the past Also, Kelly says Her voice and music are reminiscent of the Cocteau Twins Which is something I really love And a dazzling detail For any Tame Impala fans out there Are you a Tame Impala guy, Kevin?

No, not really I've got a co-worker Who really loves him So

How about you Walsh are you a Tame and Paula head

You know I think I had An album a long time ago But it never like Really became It never really stuck With me too much But it seems like One of those bands That I could still have A moment with at some point But I haven't had That breakthrough

I The album Currents By First of all I thought that The band Was somebody named Like I thought that it was Tame And Paula I thought it was Someone named Tame And then someone else Named Paula For like an embarrassing long amount of time. But that album Currents is a really good jogging album. It's very propulsive and it's good listening. Anyway, Kelly says, a dazzling deet for tame Impala fans such as myself, Melody's first self-titled album was produced by Kevin Parker, who was her boyfriend at the time. Kevin Parker is a tame Impala guy. And you can hear Kevin's influences on some of her songs from the album. So that's what we're going to play. The listener's suggestion is I follow you by Melody Prochet and that's how we're going to wrap things up here for this week of TBTL thanks everyone for listening thanks for being part of the show Camaro thanks for being here thanks for having me alright I'll meet you at the Taco Bell Cantina yes jealous Andrew you want me to bring you something home

I cannot wait to hear about your adventures on Monday I'm not joking so make sure you guys get into some trouble okay

way ahead of you alright see y'all on Monday thanks for listening have a great weekend and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

Thank you. I thought I'd love you Pretend you were wrong with me too Even in the darkness I thought I'd love with you I thought I'd love you to trust me I thought I'd love you to trust me I thought I'd love you to trust me None of us choose to be The things I always do Let's talk with you I understand It's been too long since you are gone I am thinking of you alone You will never show me how But you're scared of what was going on I follow you Pretend you need to Leave it in my days I've got it with you I know you trust me There it is. We're done. Oh, okay. Did you really like it? I feel like I just watched Prince record Purple Rain. You really did it. Power out.