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You swear that the testimony you are about to give this committee is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God. I do. Please take a seat. Senator Evis, it's your time.

Gregory Hirsch, executive assistant to Tom Wamsgans, correct?

Yes. Yes, if it is to be said.

I'm sorry?

If it is to be said, so it is.

Are you all right?

Yes. I merely wish to answer in the affirmative fashion.

You can speak to us normally.

No, thank you, sir. So I shall. TBTL!

Can't you say anything in a normal way?

The answer, sadly, is not yes.

What I like to do is first lay down a kind of syncopated beat that isn't so much about what it is altogether. it's more about the modulation and what it is once it starts it's a little bit of a proof you

have no reflexes your blood tastes like root beer and some of your bones appear to have vanished he's a hot tomato i don't know what a hot tomato is whatever happened to that wonderful man who

was in here last week wearing that funny looking turtleneck seeing that dumb song wearing that Smelly aftershave lotion. What ever happened to him? It was too beautiful to live.

Alright, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Tuesday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be, in actuality, too beautiful to live. We may need emergency surgery in the studio. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, where we are looking at a another not dry day, but you know, you like to get wet, though. We did have a lovely weekend. I know it's Tuesday. Usually the weather reflections about the weekend should happen on a Monday edition of the show. But yesterday was a holiday. everything was just a little off and so here on Tuesday I will mention that this past weekend in Portland was absolutely lovely it was that weather thing that happens I was going to say it happens in the northwest it may happen in other parts of the country too but if you sort of squinted on Saturday and Sunday you could tell yourself it was early spring You could tell yourself that it was sort of late March, early April The sun was out A couple of things were blooming I saw a camellia bush that was blooming But of course we actually have like Two plus months of just the absolute Not dry days of winter Still in our future The good news though Is that we've got a great episode of TVTL All ready to go for you on this Tuesday It's episode 3600 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. As you know, if you're a regular listener to this show, Andrew and I, we bring it five days a week. Day in, day out. When this bell dings, we answer. Okay? That's what separates us from the other podcasts. That and that we have more versions of Richard Mull saying okay than any of the other podcasts in the game. but on days when it's a round number on days when it's like 3600 that just that gases us up even more that amps us up to an even different level which is why this is going to be such a good episode of the show we've also got some interesting top stories to uh parse through including the story of a couple of ne'er-do-wells who were visiting key west florida and they vandalized A local landmark It's called the Key West Bowie and if you've been to Key West you've no doubt seen it. It's like the main Thing to do down there other than Drink and listen to Jimmy Buffett But it marks The southernmost point in the Contiguous United States And these Young Fulios Lit it on fire and destroyed it Or destroyed the paint job

And they would have gotten away with it too Had they been better tippers that's right their bad tipping led to them being found out i wish i hadn't done that and they're in big trouble now uh so we'll talk about that also there's some quality television that i've been enjoying on netflix cheer is back season two i love television i've got to have

that thing on 24-7. I love the patter.

Uh, so, uh, we'll get into that and, uh, also time permitting the story, the heartwarming story of a cat that was missing for months and was reunited with its owner when the owner recognized the cat's meow in the background of a phone call.

A cat is an angel that poops in a box.

Uh, so we'll do all that plus emails and V-mails with the help of this guy, the longest running Cobro of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's a soulful rocker from New Hampshire. He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. He's rested, he's refreshed, his garbage is safely back in the fold so he is ready to do this on a Tuesday morning. Good morning my friend. Good morning

I think those garbage collectors are playing a cheeky little game with me Luke. I'm not going to lie. Nope. I think it's good but I think it's cheeky. So today is Tuesday, you might notice. Calendar watchers, garbage bin watchers and calendar watchers might note that usually it's on a Monday that my bins are collected. Yesterday was MLK Day. I've never known the garbage collectors to take a day off, even holidays. But I had put out the bins on Sunday night. They didn't come to pick them up in the morning yesterday. I looked at the official city calendar. I saw they were taking MLK Day off, which is good, day of service. So I left them out there all day yesterday. Over 24 hours, they were at the curb. Terrifying. And I also thought, like, a shortened week.

Did you feel like skydiving without a parachute?

It was, you know, it was exhilarating. I mean, it was exhilarating today when I went out there and they were actually picked up. I thought I heard the trucks go by. I got to say, like, because we have so much trouble with garbage pickup here and we're kind of an afterthought, I figured on a shortened week when schedules get messed up, They're going to put in some other drivers who aren't going to know to come on our road to pick up the only residential bins on this entire street. But I heard the truck. I told you right before the show, hey, I'm going to go get some more coffee. I'm going to go bring those bins in, assuming they're empty. Now, when I go to pick up those bins, the let me can I just can I add a little more just a little more texture to the story?

So we had done our sound check. We're like ready to go with the show. it's pretty typical after we get everything ready and set then one or both of us will run and refill our coffee or something so you were on your way to do that but then i heard an excitement in your voice that honestly i haven't heard in years and it was like you said oh and it's gonna take me five extra seconds because i just heard the garbage truck and i gotta go get those bins so like i first of all i was amazed that you could even hear that because you and i think both have complained about a deteriorating hearing but it was like that is a sound i think that could wake you out of a dead sleep right you're very tuned into that that particular sound that's what

i should use for my uh my alarm sound actually we've been talking what would be a good sound to wake up to on my phone maybe i should record the sound of a garbage truck i'm sure it's out

there so anyway that was like so my thought was well this will be great because i you will have gotten your bins they'll be like i said safely back where no one can throw their uh dog poop bag in there and that will help you do your absolute best today on the show whereas if those bins would have just been sitting out there throughout the recording process that would have made it very would have produced some anxiety for you potentially although i mean it is they're often

out there on the mondays when we record um but i can hear it i think you can hear it in my voice in my distraction it's because you were putting the wrong date on the show which i would like to

mentioned i have updated we are now we have moved into the year of our lord 2022 everyone as a show

i have no excuses today the bins are in and the date is right i have no excuse to to flop around verbally today um but i which is maybe an example of me flopping around verbally uh ironically but anyway so i went out there to grab the bins i figured maybe one of them would be empty probably like the yard waste would be emptied but the black garbage bin would remain usually that's the last thing to get picked up sometimes it's not until the afternoon that does kind of make me anxious because then if i don't get it in right away it's gonna end up collecting people's dog poo which i don't like anyway i go down there and here's the cheeky game uh i see the two bins and i see that the green yard waste bin has definitely been emptied because it's kind of askew you know like i've put these two bins out at the curb they're always facing straight out nice neat you know 90 degree angles um and then once they're emptied they're usually thrown down in a sloppier way and that indicates to one this bin has been emptied but the black bin i've noticed because i think it's two different trucks that empty these right the black bin is still sitting at the curb perfectly 90 degree angles and i'm like oh that one hasn't been emptied yet but i open it up and it has been emptied and it occurred to me they do this sometimes often whoever's emptying the black bin puts it down exactly as I put it out there.

And that's the cheeky game. I think they know. They're playing with me. They're saying, this guy, this doofus in here, this garbage-obsessed doofus is going to think we didn't empty this. But we did. And it's going to be like a little mini Christmas when he opens that up and he sees that it's empty.

I think that this just gets down to, I think the two, I'm going to make an assumption here and assume that there are probably two men who are working this garbage truck. Is it different trucks that one – does one truck take the yard waste and a different truck take the garbage stuff?

That is my understanding. I believe all told on Big Garbage Day there would be a third truck for recycling.

Well, my theory is already falling apart. I was imagining a truck where you have two folks in the truck, and they're kind of – one is a Luke and one is an Andrew.

One is handsome and one is doing his best with what God gave him.

That's right. And they have kind of decided, for whatever reason, the one of them, the Andrew one, likes to do the black garbage bin. And the Luke one likes to do the green yard waste one. And that's just how it's always been. Nobody can even remember how this got established as the pattern. It's just one of those things. They fell into it. And now it's just kind of how it always happens. And you never have the Andrew guy grabbing the yard waste one. You never have the Luke guy grabbing the black one. but you can tell there's a difference in their in their sort of work in in their their style of working and so you've got one person who just grabs the the yard waste one and just kind of like throws it in or lets the machine pick it up and then just kind of like tosses it back down haphazardly but the andrew is just carefully replacing each black bin so that it's 90 degree angle i think really what you have here and even if they're in different trucks i think the theory could still have some merit. These are just different work styles. One, whoever does the black one is just a little more with it and pays a little more attention to detail than the Luke who does the other one.

But the person who's putting down the black men only empties three bins a day because they're out there with protractors and compasses and those long string things.

Thank you for creating a universe in which the disorganized Luke one has an excuse, which is he also works at a Quiznos. He said what he's done there. He goes to a FedEx processing place down by the airport He's just got a lot of things going on And he's starting a cameo account By the way, I had the weirdest In sort of a good way, I would say I had the weirdest evening last night I did something that I rarely do So I was actually very tired I was ready to go to bed at like 8.30 But instead I continued to watch Cheer and i continued to look at cameo for some reason and i went to there are 35 pages of people who are listed as comedians that will do a cameo uh message you know for pay in fact people that we know people in the um our buddy terry james is on there from the lex and Terry show oh you remember that guy used to come into Cairo and do his radio show on ISDN from a

little side studio yeah he was doing a show down in Florida from Seattle do I have that right I

think I was last night I spent a lot of time trying to figure out where the Lex and Terry show actually emanates from it's sort of on it's on a few stations around the country and he also has a podcast called Terry James Alive Terry's actually really in my experience he's a really pleasant fellow but i was just i went to the 35th page of the people on cameo who are selling messages andrew and i was wrestling the whole time with the question of i mean i don't think you and i should ever do it because if we start when we've monetized tbtl in the sense that we ask the listeners to support the show financially and sometimes as part of that we record videos and send them to people and as a way of thanks and we put a video in the newsletter and things like that I don't think it would be a good idea for us to go out on our own and be like, hey, but do you want a message from Luke or Andrew? It's 20 bucks or something. But I'm fascinated at the people that are on there.

Just get rid of my account on Cameo here. I didn't realize that we had an unsaid rule. My apologies. Luckily, I had zero takers.

Well, that's the other thing. like i just this cameo thing strikes at a particular insecurity that i have which is what if you threw a cameo party and no one came what if you were the kid sitting at the head of the table with the big birthday cake and all of the party favors and 20 places set and no one showed up that's that was that's my fear of what would happen if i were to go on cameo um but then And I was also just wondering about the economics of it for some folks. There were folks on there who are certainly more well-known than you and I are. they'll do a cameo message for 10 bucks and i'm thinking well cameo takes half of it then you got to pay some kind of taxes depending on where you live like i'm not saying four dollars is nothing but it's it seems like a kind of a tough way to make an easy living like you'd have to have a considerable number of cameo requests a day at four dollars a pop for it to be something that

would be financially remunerative do you know that it's always 50 cents it was my understanding that it was potentially you work those deals out individually. And also, I'm looking here. I don't know. It says you keep 75%. Not to totally undercut your thing. No, no, you know what? They were getting into this on the Levitard show, and it also was kind of my understanding that, like, if you're a big enough name, they'll kind of work with you on, like, some of these deals, you know, so it might be individual. But, I mean, if you're dealing with the $10 level, though, chances are Mr. Cameo, who I assume is wearing a top hat and a monocle, isn't coming out and negotiating with you directly my guess is uh yeah you probably don't have a ton

of leverage in that situation but i but that's but that is a good clarification because i just was kind of guessing at that but um i just what was the reason i say it was a weird night is because i have in my dotage i just go to sleep usually pretty early now and i also like i'm not the kind of person who stays up scrolling like looking at stuff like that almost in a slightly obsessive compulsive way like i had to get to page 35 and there was just you know page after page of people i've never heard of it wasn't even interesting anymore but there was something in me that said you can't go to sleep until you get to page 35 when you say get to page 35 do you

mean that you're just scrolling through and seeing ah this person did one this person did one or you're watching every you're watching at least a sample of all of these videos no i am looking so

it was the kind of thing where there'd be a page you'd get to the bottom of it it would say do you want to go to the next okay so it started with one it ended at 35 i would look my process was i would i would scan i would see if it was someone that we knew or someone that that i knew or had worked with because the line is kind of blurry like comedian i landed on comedy because i found it to be the most intriguing there's athletes there's you know politicians the politicians one is the most depressing yeah because that's got the maximum amount of don trump jr and scaramucci in it i was like right right right is wiener on there oh probably i didn't i did not i did not plumb those depths but comedy was interesting to me because it kind of it it brings in stand-up comedians uh radio people podcasters content creators on tiktok i was wondering if we We're going to see PDUSA on there. And I really want to just say I'm not begrudging anyone who hangs their their their shingle on Cameo. Like if we didn't have this show, if we weren't doing this for our job, the thought would occur to me, I think. And I think actually you and I would be kind of decent at it, Andrew, because we have a lot of practice. Yeah. Creating this kind of content, often for very small audiences.

Yeah. And it reminds me kind of of doing a Hey Dummies video. Totally.

so um but i'm not begrudging anyone who's on there but i also it's very complicated for me because i can't help but like put myself into the shoes of somebody who is you know has is has what i would think would be the somewhat delusional idea delusional is the wrong way to put it but i guess the thought process for some folks would be hey if i make 50 bucks on this in a month that's 50 bucks I didn't have before and I just got to record something on my phone so what's the downside and I guess the answer there is there's no downside but to me someone whose ego is so fragile and who's so worried about how I'm appearing all the time the idea that if I put a cameo up and then no one ordered one it would crush me so much there are people that just don't they're not wired that way they're just like whatever I'll we'll see the reason I got onto cameo was because I was watching season two of this show cheer season one I think it was kind of a sleeper hit right did we talk about it when it when it first came out because I got really into it I think early pandemic and I was still like living in Bellingham at the time did I did we talk about it back then if so I apologize I don't recall I don't I don't remember you geeking out on it it is not the kind of thing I don't even know how I ended up clicking on it in the first place i mean it was a netflix thing but it's not really the kind of show that i tend to pursue or seek out but it's it's a documentary style show there's no voiceover narration there's no host it's just you know non-narrated documentary and it's following this cheer this community college or junior college cheerleading team in um down in texas Thank you. The community college is called Navarro Community College, and the coach in charge of this team has just built this powerhouse. I think they won like 14 national championships, and I had seen this kind of cheerleading thing like late at night on like ESPN 7 when you're just like at a bar or maybe you're home kind of mildly drunk flipping the channels, And it'll just be like they're always outside on a beach in Daytona and it's like 75 cheerleaders, both, you know, men and women out there on the mat. And they're doing these like crazy elaborate throws and they're all like overly excited, even though they're not at a sporting event outside of the sport of cheer. So that was that's kind of my sense of this thing before I started watching this show. anyway i became totally drawn into it because it turns out that these young people who are doing this cheer are a lot of them are just have remarkable backstories a high percentage of the of the men taking part of it are gay men and many of them are gay men of color who come from places where it was really uh kind of not accepted for that to be who they are and so this was something

that was really kind of a safe harbor for them um it's just a very interesting group of people that get into this like unbelievably athletic unbelievably complicated world of competitive cheerleading which is its own sport in fact in season two they actually go to a basketball game for their college and they cheer there and it was the first time i'd seen any of them cheer at a sporting event like of where other people are playing the sport the sport for them is the cheerleading is the flipping the tumbling um anyway so i was really into season one uh again it's it's just well made it's not like a reality show where it's like someone gets a rose and someone gets voted off and they manufacture all this bs it's just very very kind of restrained filmmaking where you just see these these folks doing this stuff and all their ups and downs now speaking of the downs the thing that is really a bummer and bummer is not putting it strongly enough i want to give a trigger warning here too probably the most adored character from the first season was a cheerleader named jerry harris and um he was just absolutely came off on the show is just unbelievably lovable and um there's this thing called matt talk so matt talk is when you're not actually like on the you're not the one doing the like cheerleading stuff you're on the sideline but you're like encouraging the people that are actually doing it because these cheerleading squads have like more people in the team on the team than can actually be like out there doing the performance and so it's a question of being on matt or off matt and this guy jerry was kind of like not the best cheerleader when he got there so he was never even the person out there doing the thing he was always just on the side but he was so enthusiastic his matt talk was so like encouraging that it became a sensation and when the show got really popular he was being put in honey nut cheerios commercials and on ellen and flown all over the world to do these matt talks to like hype people up basically um well it turns out that he's now been accused of uh of sexual assault to be blunt and uh it's a they spend like a fair amount of time on this topic on season two of it but i mean it was like a real it was a real crushing thing for people who had one kind of idea of this person and really thought he was just such a force for good to find out that this was another side allegedly of this guy so anyway the second season deals with that a lot gets a little bit out into like there's personality it's getting a little bit the season too I'm just speaking directly to the people that watch cheer now if you haven't gotten to season two it's pretty good it's not as good as season one because it gets more into the drama it's less about people doing flips and more about the off the mat drama which I don't really kind of love but anyway here's my point the people on cheer got so famous from the first season i mean

these were community college students in texas a lot of them from disadvantaged backgrounds and then all of a sudden they're all making shit loads of money on cameo and they're like because they're celebrities like they're filming they're on this community college uh uh cheer team they're living in these very humble like student dorms but they're making all this money just shooting cameos on their phones all the time and and also that's really the part of the second season really focuses on how being famous is kind of warps everything like the coach leaves the team to go beyond dancing with the stars and the coach seems like an incredibly steady hand like my guess is that her politics and my politics would never get within five area codes of each other but she just seems like a an essentially decent human being who just really cares about these kids and really uh you know Thank you.

Just has absolutely dedicated her life To this team and these cheerleaders And stuff so I find her to be a really Likeable person but The second season really focuses on like What happens when all of a sudden everyone from this Thing is now famous

Yeah I'm glad that they're documenting That like the thin lines Between because if it's reality TV To block all that out would be Right

Exactly like I really salute the Folks who made this show because They do a really good job of kind of just of portraying or showing us the reality of what it's like for all these people now instead of trying to continue. Like if you watch these, I don't even watch any of these shows, so I should probably shut up. But like all of the shows that are on like Bravo, like Selling Sunset, or there's like a lot of real estate shows where it's like this real estate office and they only handle the top listings. This is by the way why I loved Bajillion, what was it? Bajillion Dollar Properties, which was the like parody show of these kinds of like reality real estate shows which Paul F. Tompkins is in and Lauren Lapkus and everybody from that universe from that kind of comedy bang bang world but these these reality real estate shows the people on them all become famous and then at some point you're not just selling houses it's like it's super staged everyone like people don't just call you up and go hey can you come sell my house like they for their first contact is with a bravo tv producer so the reality of that world has crumbled completely whereas with this cheer thing they did a really good job of like of just accurately documenting what life is really like now for these people who are famous anyway me seeing them on cameo had me thinking of cameo and then kind of obsessively scrolling through cameo until far too late in the night and having that moment where i'm like i want to go to bed i'm tired i keep why am i still clicking

what's going on well let's talk about cameo for a second because i've been scrolling through and taking some notes honestly and i want to and since you scrolled through all 35 pages yesterday i'm wondering if you had any of these same thoughts only of comedy i'm just yeah yeah that's what i'm looking at and i'm just going to go through in the order of the notes that i've taken number one note um george went i would not recognize him on the streets based on the picture that

he's using but he's holding a mug of beer which is his way i noted this last night andrew this could be the rest of the show us commenting on these thumbnail photos i noted that he's holding the beer so that we remember and this is no slam of george went at all but it's like so we remember

he's norm from cheers but does he have more hair in 2022 that was i wondered if that was a hair piece it it might be because it doesn't seem like he was kind of famously had this very curly hair now he's a man who's older than me he's got a full head of hair here so you know good on him

I don't remember his hair seeming like it was going away on Cheers, though. So it's very possible he just has a thick lion's mane of hair, and it's styled slightly different. Now, if it was Woody Harrelson, and he had a thick lion mane, or even Ted Danson, we would have questions.

I do have questions, though. It definitely looks like a different kind of hair. But either way, that's fine. People can wear whatever they want to wear on their heads if he's wearing something. I'm just curious. Also, I would note that if you were on Whose Line Is It Anyway, there is a pretty good possibility that you will end up on Cameo. We have at least a few.

It's a real—that's definitely—you got Ryan Stiles, a fellow—well, I'm not anymore, but he was a Bellingham resident. My brother, Sam, once—my brother worked at the Hagen up there, one of the Hagens. He once rung up Ryan Stiles Grocery, said he was very nice. Yeah, Greg Proops is on there Colin Mochrie Yeah, so that's I mean, that's a big It would seem to be a big Sort of financial I guess, part of those folks' lives And again, look, if I was Ryan Stiles or Greg Proops Or Colin Mochrie and I had like I could just sit back Record these videos and make a tidy sum Every month, listen I'd probably do it I'm not doing it because I'm afraid no one will actually order it

So also Now this is interesting So Brian Unger's on here We like Brian Unger Now the way it's set up on Cameo Is it says your name as the headline Kind of big bold letters And then underneath it It will say what you're known for So George Wendt is the headline of George Wendt And then actor dash cheers And then that's They're all like that Except for Brian Unger who in his headline uses Brian Unger, then parenthetically, the sunny lawyer, which I have a couple of notes about, which is, first of all, is that what Brian Unger is most famous for? I mean, I guess so. I just had no idea. Like, I just think of him as, I don't know, the Daily Show guy or the CBS guy. And I sunny but like it's always in sunny in philadelphia has been going on for so long and it's fallen to like kind of the um back burner for me you know i'll catch one every once in a while that i forget things like it's one of the longest television shows ever running i believe it's the longest

live action television show of all time right i think yeah i think it just moved into that category because there's been a round of sort of publicity for the the the latest season i'm i mean I had a phase with that show, and I really, really loved it years ago. I'm sure it's still a great show. Like you said, Backburner is a good way to describe it. I just haven't really been seeking it out. We certainly play enough It's Always Sunny drops on the show.

You cannot get honey from wasps. Yeah, I just think it's interesting that there are so many people who are so less famous than Brian Unger on here, Yet he's the only person who felt he needed to use the extra space in his headline to explain who he was. I wish he had a little bit more confidence as somebody who I admire.

I used to work with Brian, and I feel like he's not lacking for confidence, which is not a backhanded way of saying he's cocky. I just remember, like, you know, when I was a producer in L.A. and he would do radio pieces for for day to day. I just always he would like that was when I realized that people who are on TV and maybe I'm the exception. to this now people who are on tv a lot of times just are they look and move differently than the rest of us because i remember him coming in to like track some stuff and we're all like you know kind of pale like shut-in radio producers with our headphones on we've all been there since five in the morning and he just kind of breezes in and he's got like a white t-shirt on and he's just like tan from being outside and he's in like deceptively good shape like if i said to you brian what kind of shape is brian unger and you would have like no thought on the topic oh no

that's not true uh he's i always picture him wearing suits and i always i feel like he's a

very trim almost athletic guy he was more than almost athletic i just remember him being in like a a white v-neck t-shirt and and clearly being like a person who's doing like some kind of boot camp like some kind of workout thing where it's not just like me doing my little jogs on the occasion it's like this is a person who eats right and works out a lot and it was like only noticeable when you're up close and personal with him whereas on tv to me just reads like i don't know it's another guy on tv nice looking guy whatever but like in person you're like oh no no this is this

guy is built different certainly than me speaking of i have some more notes on cameo but speaking of LA radio did you uh I saw Licorice Pizza this weekend I didn't recognize him in the moment but I realized during the credits that Tim Conway Jr. was in that there was like I did not recognize him LA Easter LA radio Easter eggs in that movie a little shout out to KPCC as well at one point

I was trying to explain that to Addy why the Tim Conway Jr. cameo who does he play again a casting

agent i had to look it up right now i didn't recognize it um uh in the movie but he appears

with maya rudolph in that right scene right when uh when the um you know i forget characters yeah the boy yeah when he goes in to try out for a commercial or something exactly um yeah that was uh that was like tim conway jr had a night radio show i think it was i think it was called when i was living in LA it was called like uh Conway and Steckler oh I didn't realize it was that long

running I just stumbled on it myself one day on the AM dial yeah it was on it was like I think

it was called Conway and Steckler and it was like a two-person like nighttime radio show I think it would come on like maybe before um Phil Hendry or after Phil Hendry or anyway I loved that show and then Steckler went somewhere and then it was just the Tim Conway Jr. show or something but yeah You think about like Paul Thomas Anderson That is a guy who definitely I think Has an interest in talk radio I mean I say this about every four months on the show But I'm quite convinced that the Tom Cruise character in Magnolia Is based on Tom Lakers Or at least heavily inspired by that kind of early MGTOW Well it's not really MGTOW It's more sort of Because they're not going their own way they're trying to interact with women but along a very messed up set of rules yeah yeah super toxic and that tj mackie character is almost saying verbatim things that you would hear tom likus say on the tom likus show which makes me think of paul thomas anderson driving around the valley and like listening to kfi or whatever right like hearing tom likus and there is some there's in

that movie um there's a moment where you know the main character i'm sorry that i'm blanking oh gary of course the kid's name is gary gary valentine right um you know he's a little go-getter who's always starting up these businesses and at one point before you see the scene, before the scene establishes visually You hear the audio of it, and it's somebody doing a commercial for, I believe, waterbeds in this case. And it was funny. I actually had this thought in my head. I guess this is where I'm rooted. I had this thought before it visually paid off. I'm like, this doesn't sound like a TV ad. What's going on here? And then they cut to it, and, of course, it's a DJ in a radio station in, like, 1968 doing kind of a live read based off of a script for these waterbeds. And I was like, yes, there is there is something that the director really captured there, that warm there. I was it was funny in that scene, I guess, because I work in radio, I was very obsessed with it in that moment. I was thinking there's something warm about the microphone that they're using. Like there are just little things that I agree with you. I'd never thought of P.T. Anderson before in his relationship with radio. But I was after this movie because it is like a kind of a love letter to a version of L.A. And I feel like there are these little radio Easter eggs in there. And the fact that you have Tim Conway Jr. making a cameo and this radio, this short radio scene where later on it's credited to KPCC, which I don't know if that was ever a commercial radio station.

But yeah, I wondered about that, too. I mean, because that would be Pasadena City College. So KPCC, I mean, it's always been associated with a nonprofit, a city college.

Yeah, right. Yeah. So I my guess is that that does it doesn't matter that that doesn't line up with real life. That was probably him just needing maybe a radio station to throw out there and wanted to, like, kind of give a give a little shout out to KPCC. I could be wrong about that. It'd be interesting to look KFI, the conservative station that Tim Conway's nighttime radio show is on.

Is he still on KFI?

Yeah. I mean, because I didn't know that background that you told me. The reason I knew he was on there is because our friend Libby worked for KFI for a while as a newscaster, just as a newscaster. It's known to be a very conservative station. And she didn't get involved on the politics side of things. And then that got me listening to it sometimes. And I think I turned on the car at night after checking out Libby's newscasts during the day. And I heard something that caught my ear. That was the best thing about L.A. to me, I think, was stumbling. The radio scene there is still like kind of a it's still like a curiosity shop, especially on the A.M. side of the dial. You just never know what you're going to stumble on at night. It could be somebody famous. It could be some random. It's almost like cameo. You could just stumble on somebody who's maybe famous for being in the office, and it turns out they have a radio show. Or they're being a guest on somebody's radio show. And also the line between some of the talk shows and podcasts I heard back when I lived there. There was kind of a thin line between the vibe that I like.

Some people will disagree with me on this because they have a personal connection to, I don't know, a talk show host or DJ in, say, New York or Chicago or somewhere else. i think there's an argument to be made for la being the best radio town in america and it's because so many people are trapped in their cars yeah so much of the time i just think that and you see it even like in um once upon a time in hollywood there are those great driving scenes where it's all being kind of you know it's sort of a backdrop the backdrop of all the driving and these are like long long scenes of just like gear shifting and driving all set to la radio from a certain era like i just i just think it's because of how everyone lives their life in la i think it makes the radio the radio has to like sort of be there available and be compelling for people while they're spending all this time sitting in traffic or driving from here to there and probably

also compounded by the fact that it is the world's entertainment capital as well i mean not only you you have the you have the people trapped in their cars as you say but then also you just have like all of the entertainment talent of America consolidated there, you know, or not all, but, you know, it's L.A., baby. I wanted to mention that Gilbert Gottfried is on here twice. At first, I thought it was somebody... Yeah, as a vampire

and then as Gilbert Gottfried? As a

Santa Claus and as Gilbert Gottfried. He's also a vampire. Oh, then he's on there three times. If you want to hire him as a business, as Santa Gottfried, $900. You're going to have to open up that corporate credit card account and pay $900 to get that. also probably that I know that we the first time we talked about cameo on the show I think it was very Gilbert Gottfried centered he is kind of like this is a platform that is made for him yeah it's also made for us not playing it because it's always filthy I think we tried that a couple of times already Busey's on here Gary Busey is a really good I think candidate for cameo I was just telling Genevieve I believe yesterday or the day before that I was disappointed that Jake Busey didn't have more of a career uh i realized that he was a little bit one note but i i felt like jake busey

would still be doing something in 2022 yeah was he on like hawaii hawaii 50 he was maybe one not it was on some kind of a it was like a a sexy procedural it was some kind of a cop show but they were in a cooler place than like you know a bit lower manhattan or something it was like i I have a memory. him being like out in

it was like a Magnum PI reboot or something. Huh. I didn't know that I'm looking here it wasn't like 911 Dubuque Is there a 911 Dubuque yet? There should be. There should be How many 911's are there now? I only find out about that when I'm watching football games. LA's Finest? It looks like he played somebody in a TV series called LA's Finest. He was in Stranger Things I didn't realize I didn't realize that either.

Anyway, yeah. Maybe it was just NCIS or something. No, he was only in one episode of NCIS. If the listeners will permit me to take about an hour to just scroll through this, I can probably find it. I mean, he's been working steadily, but we haven't seen a Jake Busey vehicle. Like, he shows up in, like, Justified. There's a lot of things that he'll do, like, a couple days on. So, you know, it seems like he's a... A working, somewhat in-demand actor He was in one episode of CSI Miami I have this memory of there being A moment where, you're right, Shasta McNasty

What?

That's the show I'm thinking of

Are you serious? It's a show?

Yeah But, you know, it has nothing to do with cops and solving crimes But I remember when Jake Busey was one of the stars of a show called Shasta McNasty.

I'm still trying to figure out if you're playing a prank on me. This is a show, Shasta McNasty?

Yes, Scott, Dennis, and Randy are three slacker dudes who also make up the rap rock band Shasta. Instead of working on their music, they spend most of their time hanging out on Venice Beach trying to score dates, finding new ways to stall the pizza delivery guy, and generally being mediocre. And that was 1999. That was a show called Shasta McNasty, which my brain, my bad, bad brain went back and was like, maybe because I'd seen him on a like a CSI promo. But Shasta McNasty was like on the beach. My brain said he's a guy who solves crimes on the beach, which he isn't.

Right, right, right, right, right. No, you're thinking of Fletch. That's a guy who solves crimes on the beach. That's Dr. Rosen penis. All right. that's an okay my last note on this uh cameo thing is looking at the first like three pages of comedians i would probably hire either paul rubens but here's the thing about it like yeah i don't want it to be some i'm gonna say something insult this is gonna be insulting to the rest of the crew and i don't mean it that way there are just certain people that i want to see on cameo and certain people like i almost have too much respect for i don't know like that makes it sound like i don't have respect for brian unger and i'd be happy to watch a cameo for brian unger but somehow like i don't want to see paul rubens doing a cameo for me i expect more from paul rubens right whereas gary bucey like of course that's that's made for cameo yeah and that's i

mean i was trying to be delicate about that because first of all you may these listeners may very well see me on page 36 of cameo uh in the years to come so i want to be careful about what i say and uh i don't want to you know as snoop would say don't solve another man's hustle i don't want to like sound like i'm being like i'm judging anyone who's on there but there were certainly some some folks that went by that i thought you're upset right now there are a couple people that do it for charity there's like a note on there that'll say like a little kind of um badge that'll just say this is for charity so if you order that person's cameo that money goes to charity i'm assuming that cameo has a system where like they just send the money to the charity like they never send it to the person um but i don't know the rules on that either um but you know so there are times where you'll see where you will see somebody on there and you'll just be like her you'll be like wow this person who's uh you know like um who's the guy he's on blackish anthony king i don't know he's in a million commercials too right now he's in like a he's in like um for some vodka uh commercial but anyway he's like that guy is really famous and he's on like multiple television shows that are all like network television programs that are on i mean that is a person who is presumably raking it in this

anthony anderson i'm not anthony anderson blackish but he's the lead you know cast member like anthony

Anderson is not somebody who was in a show in fact you know what they keep showing him on these promos for this new NBC show that Jimmy Fallon hosts that's some kind of a singing I hope you're sitting down Andrew they have Jimmy Fallon hosting a singing related

Oh, I can hear the notes you're singing.

Yes, I can hear you dance. Yes. I believe it's the new Fox show. Can you believe that Sean Spicer was actually Left Shark and I can hear you dance? Ken Jeong was floored. Jenny McCarthy almost couldn't believe who was in that digital avatar of a crypto punk. What? everything happening in our world all collapsing on itself but anyway anthony anderson that guy is like in a lot of things and i assume being very well compensated and the fact that he is also carving out time to do cameos is that's one is not even like a i don't even feel sad i'm i'm just i'm surprised honestly because i can't i can't see how that is a good use of an hour of anthony anderson's life considering how in demand he is for other yeah it could be one of those things

too where i i also wonder if it's just like being on the platform is somehow good like you and i are talking about this in some ways where it almost seems like oh you know i think of paul rubens i'm like really you but like maybe there's just like if you have agents and managers i still know the difference i don't need to know the difference let's face it um like you know it's just like it's good it's just kind of good business practice to have your face on there and maybe you crank one or two out every now and then and it goes to charity but it's just good to to be there maybe

you know yeah that is probably and you're right like this is because i'm old but to me it's like something like cameo i think of it as being like oh you're out there you're tap dancing you're you know you're kind of you're videotaping for your supper which again there's no shame we're podcasting for our supper right now but there's a whole other way of looking at it which is people are how many people go to cameo every day and if your little thing is featured how many people see you and remember that you're still out there you're still doing stuff there's also the financial part of it you might actually i mean if you have 10 million people looking at something and if only even if a very small percentage of those people engage with your particular little small business that could still be some real money i mean carrie got me a message from jeff the drunk from the stern show one cameo that's right and it was kind of great i was kind of i was kind of excited about it do you know the in in scrolling through all this like the only person who i was pretty excited to see on there and who i went to their page and i did couldn't think of who i would order it for but who i was fascinated by was this guy who breakdances i first saw him on tiktok but he's pretty viral he's pretty meme-ified he's uh would appear to be mexican-american guy who i think his backstory is that he was involved in drugs and gangs but then he got saved as they say and now he pops and locks and yells jesus christ as he pops and locks like on the stages of various mega churches so like this guy's deal is he comes out so it's like sunday service at some point he comes out he pops and locks and just says jesus christ over and over again and everyone just gets super hyped and it's the funniest thing i've ever seen and he's on there and i was like god i wish someone else loved this guy as much as i do because i could send them a cameo of him you know

who's really won me over here and i don't even know who this person is but jason selvig do you know this person never heard of him comedian the good liars his um his photo what should be his headshot is just a photo of clouds just on a nice it looks like maybe it's taken from an airplane like somewhat sunny clouds and then you click on it his his photo on his actual page is just like a um what do you call it like a boomerang like a two-second video of a crow eating on a beach Like this person Like this is confidence This is what I like Yes Like you don't You don't even put Your face out there That is I don't know And also our buddy Lindy is on here too Which I think I knew I saw that On Instagram Yeah

I Yeah I'm I don't know enough About This Jake Selvig character Although he is a handsome He's a handsome lad He does yes So maybe that's how he I got nervous at first Because I image searched him And the first picture That came up Was him standing next to Jesse Waters From Fox but i my guess as i scroll through more pictures is that this was him kind of i don't want to say confronting but like jesse waters is this truly terrible figure on fox who just got his own show which is really gross he basically got well known within the network for like showing up on other people's shows and um just saying a bunch of really even by fox news standards like incendiary stuff and now he's been rewarded with his own time slot so that's good to see um Let's go.

But my guess would be that this Jason Selvig guy, he's wearing a T-shirt that says Settle for Hillary, and it has Hillary's logo on it. And then I'm looking at other pictures. There's pictures of him with Hillary Clinton and some other things that make me think he's actually probably coming at it from more like our perspective. He took a picture of a bunch of Donald Trump Jr.'s books for sale at like a Hudson News, and I think he might have Photoshopped the book to just say, Daddy, please love me. I had that Demi and Digi eBay

Who will get daddy's kiss Going through my head all day That's good Genevieve I'll wrap it up here For some reason Veves and I were talking about Cameo Coincidentally Oh no we weren't talking about Cameo We were re-watching Tim Heidecker's comedy special I believe it's called An Evening with Tim Heidecker You can watch it on YouTube I remember we watched it About a year ago Whenever it came out, I remember we watched it on the day that it debuted on YouTube. Like he just put it out there for free and it's like a whole – I believe it's an entire hour of stand-up comedy that is also making fun of that – a type of stand-up comedy, which is like the stand-up comedy special, you know, basically by a white man that's like kind of borderline toxic and just angry and like saying things in the form of jokes that aren't really funny and just kind of bombing. It's like – it is like performance art. It is really good. Genevieve loves it. In fact, I remember turning it on when it was like brand new, hours old again, a year or two ago, whenever it came out. And I watched the first like five minutes of it without her. And then she came in the room. I'm like, I don't know if you're going to like this. It starts off pretty broad because it basically starts off with him. You know, it starts off like you're outside the theater and you're watching like the person who works for the theater, put the sign, the letters on the marquee and like a classic. Yes. Start of every stand up. And he's like you see him backstage of mumbling something while he's like adjusting his hair. And then he goes out on stage and just fumbles and drops the microphone in the microphone stand for about four or five minutes, like a full four or five minutes, just like ever angrier and agrier. And I remember thinking, oh, I don't know if Genevieve is going to like this. And I forgot, of course, like Genevieve loves him so much, like it's on a different level. And I'm like, OK, I'll rewind this if you want to see it. she was cry laughing like if you ever just want to see Genevieve at just like just the height of hysterics just have her watch the beginning of that special she cannot contain herself and he's got this like just inner rage when he plays these characters that just manifest and it's like just it's just this burning rage and that's why it came up she says that the only cameo she wants are from people who would never do them the first one would be Tim Heidecker yelling at her or Bob odin kirk yelling at her she's like i just want one of those guys to yell at me in their angry

character isn't it the groucho marks thing you never want to be a member of a club that would have me yep i'd never want a cameo except from a person who would never do cameo exactly yeah all right well we're 52 minutes into it's probably shit probably a good time for a break uh and then we'll uh come back and we'll um well we'll do these top stories Promises made, promises kept, Andrew. We'll just do a shitty job with them. Stay with us. This is TBTL. Hey, let's thank some donors of the day. This is our version of Cameo. We do the show five days a week. We ask people who like the show And who like it to continue to support us By sending in a donation To American Public Media Where not to brag I am now once again able to approve my own time card That's not true I'm allowed to submit it I don't get to approve it No, that's true, yeah

I approve it Yes Could you do me a favor? Could you do all Because we have this kind of cameo thing going on Will you do all of these donors? Will you read the names in the voice? Vampire Gilbert God I heard Gilbert Gottfried is exactly what I was going to say, yes.

I want to suck your blood. I don't know how it was that. Chris Tillia! He's not. I'm not allowed to. Am I not allowed to say Affleck in the voice of Gilbert Gottfried? Yeah, I don't think so.

I don't think you're allowed to anymore either.

Wasn't that... Why? Why, Luke? You know who's really asking why? Chris Tillia from Spokane, Washington. The Inland Empire Who's supporting us today Also John Williams In Midwest City, Oklahoma

Weirdly Is Oklahoma the Midwest?

Oh, well Yeah, I think so And also it depends on when Midwest City was named Yeah, true

You know, like, there wasn't as much West at a certain point. Right.

That's what, what is the book? What is the great American novel, the great Gatsby? What they consider the Midwest in there is like the East to us, right?

It's like, yeah, I'm trying to think. I wish, I only lived in New York for many years. You'd think I would know the geography. I wanted to make, like, a version of that New Yorker joke. There's got, like, Manhattan and then just, like, just nothing and then L.A.

I wanted to try to think of something

That was only barely west Of like where the Great Gatsby He's like living out on a I think I read the Great Gatsby A long time ago but What's his name Nick the main guy Isn't he living on an island

Well he's out in New York He's out in New York but he keeps on West Egg and East Egg Right and he keeps referring To being from the midwest but I don't think The midwest I could be wrong But I don't think it's as Midwest-y as we would say these days

Well, Chris, John Williams, as we mentioned Who's in Midwest City, Oklahoma Angela Santa Rosa in Carmel, Indiana These are all amazing people who support the show And they also all know that I don't need to go back in And try to re-litigate the Gilbert Gottfried Losing his Aflac job thing Because I don't remember the details But if you woke me up out of a dead sleep and you said what was the story on that and i could be wrong so please be gentle with me god ain't finished with me yet y'all god don't make no junk just christ i'm break dancing um my guess would be that it was a case of maybe not totally understanding who the joke was on do you remember

what it was about because i remember what i remember that it do you remember what it was about yeah it was about it was after the tsunami i don't remember what the joke was but it was some joke that was considered taste too edgy that he tweeted out while the tsunami story in japan was

still unfolding well that might just be straight up bad then i don't know i i i was i didn't remember the specific joke and but i guess what i was thinking was godfried is this is this comedian where it's like the the satire and the kind of playing this character and then is it the character the joke is that the character makes terrible jokes or is you know what I mean like there's so many kind of weird layers to it and I don't think at his core Gilbert Gottfried is a hateful person I don't know where I how I've developed that opinion I've never met him but I guess I was just I was thinking that there was a chance that it was something where something he said that was an attempt at humor failed and was seen as offensive and then that then he lost his uh his aflac duck job yeah it definitely was tsunami related it was a tweet

i don't i don't want to weigh in because i don't really remember what it was i don't think it was racially tinged i'm not sure about that i i honestly don't know you know i don't know if we have time for me to start this blabbing but maybe we can talk about it one second yeah no

think about the blabbing i want to hear i'm genuinely curious but i want to just also thank Nicholas Carter of Concord, Massachusetts. Ivan Chabra of San Francisco, California. We know Ivan. We know of Ivan. Ivan is pals with our friend P. Fletch.

Oh, Ivan Fletch's friend. Right, right. I also think that Nick might have been from San... Did Nick say he was from San Francisco at one point in the Great Gatsby? Anyway.

Oh, maybe. I mean, I only got halfway through that Tobey Maguire film. Which is, I mean, Nick Carraway, right? Is that the name of the Carraway?

It's Carraway, Carraway, yeah.

Thanks, Ivan, appreciate you. Andrew Fusen is in Baton Rouge. I'm sorry I did that, Andrew. I can't say Baton Rouge, Louisiana, without throwing a little bit of Cajun on there. So thank you to all of our donors of the day for making today's show possible. We appreciate you keeping us off of Cameo. You're the only reason you don't have Vampire Burbank doing cameo spots for $20 a pop. So thank you very much. Hello and welcome to Top Story. Oh, Andrew, did we get over the river? I've got 60 plus minutes on my clock. Oh, yeah.

It looks like I'm at about an hour and two minutes. although we took the break oh yeah we talked a little bit during the break where i don't know if we got over the river before you hit that sounder we had been more intentional we had to be more did anyone have that parlayed today

then it was anyone's bet that we'd go over the bet was that we'd go over the river today and that the la uh chargers and the las vegas raiders would tie at the end of

the regular season god that would have really paid um okay andrew what was the thing you were about to say when i charged forward with the donors i'm just weighing probably um okay you remember it but you're just wondering if it's worth getting into yeah let's just move on let's

just do top stories it was just um i've never heard it's just it's not it's not funny it's something that i've been like i've just been battling something in my head that i heard on levitard let me just i'll give him i'll give the shortest version of this rant that i can this spirally rant that is in my head that that had me actually turning off the levitard show the other day in anger or something that i'd never done before um levitard and his whole crew they come at most issues from a place that i appreciate right like they're they're they have a good worldview that i appreciate which is one of the reasons i like that show it's about sports but it's about culture and it you know puts a magnifying glass on things but like levitard is he's like my generation i think he's like my age maybe a little bit older um and he loves comedy right that's why the show's funny and he like kind of i think um kind of adores the the comedians that he grew up with and and like that comes out a lot on the show and it's the reason why he just is tickled that like somebody like mike sure is a friend of the show right who you mentioned i believe on tbtl yesterday luke yeah um but the one thing that i disagree with him about is like he's he goes on these rants when he talks about comedy and how comedians these days are in his words running scared and he'll get on this thing and I think maybe it came up on the show last week because Patton Oswalt had taken that um photo with um Dave Chappelle thank you for the help there that happened in Seattle my brain yeah it did yeah they were whatever they were performing in venues different venues in Seattle and then I think Chappelle texted him And he came over and Patton did a little set and then they took a photo together. And then Patton felt like because he got so much heat for taking a photo with Chappelle, who has very controversial things to say about the trans community and trans people, of course, Patton Oswalt sort of gave a kind of an apology or at least an explanation of why he posted this photo with his friend. And that got lebitard on this whole thing again. And he uses this phrase of how hard it is to do stand-up comedy, and he finds it really interesting, and he's not dismissing the social issues, but it's just so hard to be a comedian these days because everybody's running scared. And this all comes back to what we were talking about, Gilbert Gottfried, and him putting a joke out there that was edgy and kind of offensive, but that was kind of his brand, and that was the brand of comedy that people like Gilbert Gottfried grew up in, especially the stuff we loved in the 90s. I mean, we were celebrating Norm MacDonald the other day, and I do love Norm MacDonald, but you go back and, like, I actually don't like this stuff where he's just – a huge part of his thing was just saying words and kind of getting away with it, right, under the guise of humor. And it's like humor has changed, and the kind of humor that we put on TV and for mass consumption has changed.

But like I get so angry when people of our generation or older, it's almost always like these comedy loving men who are like saying that they're making it sound like comedy is dying because you can't tweet out something offensive during a national disaster in another country. Right. It's like, no, it's just that like there's still do we feel like there's a lack of comedy in our culture right now? Or do we feel that all comedy is just nothing is funny anymore because you can't say anything anymore? that is such bullshit there are so many young comedians i mean there's more comedy now than ever before on tiktok and you don't have to be offensive to do it like i grew up with that stuff too and i loved it and but the thing is like just because the time of the edgelord is over doesn't mean that there's been a death of comedy it's like it's so just patently untrue and it drives me crazy this idea that that comedians are somehow victims like comedians over the age of 50 are victims of culture is just like it's it's just aggravating to me yeah i mean i guess like an

example would be pd usa versus eddie murphy raw yeah like do we need eddie murphy saying things that are clearly homophobic for comedy to exist or can we watch pd usa like at his house in la pretending to be five different characters you're talking about how something's really epic yeah right like i mean that makes me laugh and it's i don't at least at this moment in time can't see what's hurtful about that exactly yeah so no i i think i tend to agree with you i mean i think also what happens is most of the time the people who are quote unquote canceled are just have to kind of move into another space and so i mean louis ck played i believe it was madison square garden and I believe it was sold out and then released the special on his own website and my guess is he probably has sold a lot of copies of it you know so like louis ck is may not be uh performing for a certain crowd anymore but he still got a pretty big crowd you know and so this and even gilbert godfried like i mean i guess i guess there is maybe there is a question i mean and this is just the basic question of the whole thing which is like do we have a different standard for something that is intended as a joke somebody says something and they're trying to be funny and they fail at being funny and it just comes off as hurtful or mean do we have more grace for them than say a political pundit who's not trying to be funny who's just stating something so like you could have somebody who is uh you know a talking head on a TV show or who writes op-ed pieces whose take is something about the tsunami that's somehow critical of people maybe in other parts of the world or hurtful towards them in the same way that Gilbert Gottfried's attempted joke was but they're not coming at it from a place of trying to be funny and Gilbert Gottfried thought he was being funny and he wasn't. Is there a different standard? Should we have a different standard for something that's intended as a joke or not? I don't know the answer to that but I guess I feel like that is sort of a question in all of this.

But I also sort of think it's a little bit of a false. As you just said, Louis C.K. just did the guard. I also think it's sort of a fall. Like when you say what we can do or what we can't do or what we give grace to, it really depends on who we is. And maybe that's the second tier of my aggravation with like Levitard, who makes it sound like these guys are running scared and they're almost all guys like these guys are running scared and they can't do comedy. It's like, well, first of all, they they can they have audiences, just like you said, it's like and they can select that audience. And then somebody like me can be in Seattle and say, I wish Louis C.K., you know, I wish Louis C.K. handled everything differently. I wish his apology was better. I wish he it seemed like he actually believed he did something wrong. And I'm not I'm actually not somebody who thinks that everybody has to end their career forever. Just like but I am also not a fan of Louis C.K. and I don't appreciate what he did. But like that doesn't matter to Louis C.K. The fact that I feel that way and I have my opinion about it does not mean in any way you can't say anything anymore because he's still saying stuff. And people like Lebitard and whoever else want to see Louis C.K. special can see it. Like it's just it's just it's just a complete false dichotomy. It's just like people like me might say, oh, like when I put on Eddie Murphy Raw, like if you've listened the first I think is his first 40 minutes of that or something, it is nothing but a diatribe using the F word. and all kinds of homophobic slurs and it's just like amazing that you know now that was a different time i wasn't alive i wasn't alive when that came out i don't think i think maybe it was maybe maybe it was that you were alive and you liked it no that was early 80s right because he was wearing that leather yeah that was early 80s and so you know i hear that and it makes me sick and it makes me uncomfortable and i would never go and listen to that for um for entertainment right now um so i guess i just bring that up to say like yeah time has moved on i don't know that like i'm not going around is like i first of all i don't think i'm the arbiter of what's right or wrong and even if i were i'm not going around with some like i'm not some sort of like time cop going around and like you know like holding people accountable for things they said in their stand-up special people are just as free to do whatever jokes they wanted to now as they were in 1983 and certain people

are going to like it and certain people aren't well i think you are the one who brought this to my attention a while ago um but it is really it's quite something to hear someone say the art make the the argument you can't say anything anymore or as a comedian you have to be so worried about what you just you can't even say anything but then what's happening on the other side when there's criticism of a joke someone made is also free speech like the comedian has the right to say what they want to say and then everyone else in the country has the right to have their feelings about it and say what they want to say about it like really what it is is you can say anything anymore you can say the joke and people can say i didn't like that joke it's that's how that works it seems like it's like for some people they want it to be the case that a comedian can say something that offends people but then the comedian says that was just a joke but when the people who are offended express they're offended that is the kind of

speech that they don't appreciate exactly then and i remember that with like lindy west lindy making her second conversational appearance on the show today um although a lack of a real lindy appearance on the show um writ large but um no but i remember remember she got in that whole thing with tosh.o who is also just like one of the most unfunny people that i i can think of for my taste but also somebody who was very popular for a long time and has a huge fan base that i don't quite understand, but, you know, he has a fan base, and so he clearly appeals to certain people, and then he was telling, like, rape jokes.

Right. This is going back 10 between 10 and 15 years ago. But there's kind of a big public kind of because I think Lindy spoke out about it like this shit isn't funny. And then he's then him and his followers are saying, well, don't don't step on my free speech. Like, don't tell me it's, you know, and she's like, this is my free speech. Me saying that rape jokes aren't funny and that they offend me and that there's a reason why that that person left. I think it became national news because I believe there was I think maybe a victim of a sexual crime who like got up and walked out of his performance. And then he continued to heckle that person. Tosh.0 did whatever his damn name is. And that's what started the whole thing.

So anyway, it's just kind of like, yeah, it's not his government name.

I don't think so. So, yeah, it's just kind of like, wait a second. You can say whatever you want. But then if I say, hey, I don't think that's funny and I don't think that's appropriate things to say on a stage like that. But that is crossing the line of somehow that infringes on your free speech. It's just, yeah, we can all have our opinions.

I think that the marketplace tends to sort these things out. There may be a few examples where somebody who really probably didn't, quote unquote, deserve it, had their life permanently altered because of an internet firestorm. I'm sure there are examples of that but I would say generally speaking there is you know somebody says something somebody who's who sort of has a pretty big microphone says something that's pretty offensive there's some pushback and the people that are not offended by the statement stick by the person and the people who are offended may go choose something else to consume. like dave chappelle is not going hungry you know um despite the the controversy over his last special so yeah i i i think i think i'm i'm about 99 with you on this that it's not uh it's not what it's made out to be in terms of you can't say anything anymore you know we can't say that we're getting to the top stories this episode because we're already now moving into i mean do you want Should I just check them off the list? Do you want me to tell you these stories really fast and have a 15-second reaction?

Let's see here. Yeah, I guess I don't know either one of these stories. So, yeah, you can give me the short versions.

I like this Key West story a lot. This is Vimal Patel writing in the New York Times. Burning a Key West symbol was bad. Not tipping a bartender was worse, locals say. so um uh i think it was maybe in the last a week or two there was this uh this moment where these two guys look like they're in their 20s took an old christmas tree and lit it on fire in front of this key west buoy which as i mentioned at the top of the show if you haven't been have you been to Key West, Andrew? I don't think so. In your Walsh family sojourns to Florida, you never got all the way down there.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to figure out. I mean, I would have been a kid, but we usually vacation in a place, I believe, called Sarasota.

Oh, okay, sure. Sarasota was, I think that's where the Yankees spring training is, right?

Oh, really? I didn't know that. I did not take in any games. I believe it's the home of the Grapefruit League. God, I can't wait for baseball. I know. You know what I was about to ask you.

when pitchers and catchers report?

Well, there's a lockout, right? Oh, that's right. There is kind of a lockout. I was going to say, should we try to make it down to Phoenix? Oh, 100%. My grandma is turning 100 in March, which would be around spring training time. That's perfect timing then. I very much support that idea.

Well, anyway, down in Key West, they've got this southernmost point buoy, which is just like a kind of a marker that you're at the absolute furthest point south in the united states um and these guys lit this christmas tree on fire there's like an old dried out christmas tree they'd probably stolen from somewhere and then they're taking pictures i this all this video exists by the way because there's a security camera there and it's a very decent quality like i was watching it on youtube the other day like it is not it's not like you know grainy and like oh what's that guy doing it's just like it's like you're just watching these two foolios at like whatever 3 30 in the morning do this bullshit so they like this Christmas tree on fire they're posing in front of it they're on their phones they're filming it whatever well the fire actually burns really hot because it's a dried Christmas tree and so it ends up melting this buoy is painted with you know a message this is the southern most point in the United States etc etc and anyway it melts all the paint like it just burns the buoy which is i guess concrete or something it burns it so that it's totally destroyed at least they have to repaint it which costs like five thousand dollars and so nobody knows who these two people are they're not locals and the video is circulating this security video and uh a guy uh Let's a guy whose name is Cameron Broidy. How would you say the last name? B-R-I-O-D-Y. Briody? Briody? Briody. Briody. That's probably it. Cameron Broidy is a bartender at Irish Kevin's, which that's like probably the most quintessential Key West bar name I can think of. I don't know if we have listeners in Key West. If you are listening to this in Key West, hit us up. But I mean the Key West Locals in Key West are you know They're quite unique but there's just something about I've been to Key West a few times there's something about Just being called Irish Kevin's that's just the most Key West name to me yeah like

Like an Irish bar in Florida Right yeah exactly

So Cameron Is a bartender at Irish Kevin's and when he sees the Security footage he recognizes One of the dudes who lit the christmas tree on fire and these are i'll just mention these are like drunk white guys in their 20s which depending on the week could be 70 to 80 percent of the tourist population in key west like there's a lot of people that fit this description but the bartender recognizes them because they were the only people who never tipped him over the course of a night and so uh the first time they bought a drink from him they used cash one of them used cash but uh and didn't tip and he took note of it and then the second time they bought a drink they used a card and also didn't tip and so he went back through the uh you know the receipts for that night and found the names of one of these guys and they've now both been tracked down uh skylar ray jacobson 21 of texas and david brendan perkins 22 of leesburg florida police have now put out a felony arrest warrant for both men on suspicion of criminal mischief with more than a thousand dollars in damage all indications are if they would have just tipped this guy a normal amount they would have not made the impression on him that they did and probably wouldn't have been caught for this christmas tree fire vandalism situation

I wonder what goes through people's heads like that. So if this was on two different occasions.

When they don't tip?

Yeah. Like if this was on two different occasions and they didn't tip either time, like it's not a mistake, right? Like I won't. I mean I've eaten – how many, you know, tabs have I signed in my adult life, Luke, for restaurants and bars or whatever, right? That's an interesting question. In the millions. Like what's the over under?

Yeah, right? You know, is it maybe 15,000 or something?

I mean, it's got to be, I mean, it's just got to be, it's ridiculously high. And have I ever messed that up? Possibly after a night of drinking? Have I ever, like, you know, put the numbers in the wrong order? Have I ever, like, under, like, I'm sure that has happened, even with my best intentions. But not tipping at all and doing it, you know, on two different instances, you are clearly somebody who believes that you don't have to tip. Or you're making a statement. It's just curious. Like, if I were to interview these people, I would have zero questions about the Christmas tree fire. I would just have a lot of questions about, like, the mentality of, like, are you making a statement by doing this? Are you, like, in that Quentin Tarantino movie? Is it Steve Buscemi's character in – what's his first movie? Why am I blanking on –

Oh, True Romance?

No, you know, the band of – Natural Born Killers? Why am I doing this? Oh, my goodness. Steve Buscemi's character, you know, is sitting around the table talking about how he doesn't tip. Oh, Reservoir Dogs? Reservoir dogs and the world's smallest violin. Sorry, that name just escaped me in the moment. That was probably infuriating for everybody. But like, you know, like you have those people out there who like somehow it's part of their personality that they're too smart to tip or whatever. Or is it just laziness or do you actually not kind of realize or do you do you have a are you honestly mistaken? And you think if you're just getting drinks, then you don't tip on that. Is that how your parents raised you? You only tip on food. Like, what is it?

i have a theory that what it is is well a and this is very clear you're selfish and you're thinking okay this drink is costing me six dollars if i tip it's costing me seven dollars or eight dollars but that's voluntary and i want to pay only six dollars for this and like like for you or i at this point and i'm not trying to set us up as like the great heroes of tipping but like it would be unconscionable for either of us to go up and order a drink and not leave at least a And so to do that the first time It would almost, it would be terrifying It'd be like you leaving the garbage bins out For an entire episode of the show

I gotta go check on those by the way I know I pulled them back

Honestly, it would stress me out to not tip Because of the social pressure And because of the habits that I've formed But if you're 26 Or even younger And you just haven't you just haven't done it or you've just gotten through the awkwardness of it to where you're just like yeah i'm just not going to what do you sue me for what like what are you going to do like if you can mentally cross that sort of threshold to where you just don't care if the bartender doesn't like you or is mad at you because you're like i want to pay six dollars and not eight dollars and i'm going to just that's just what i'm going to do because i mean the repercussions are fairly usually are fairly limited for these things like it's rare that the not tipping also leads ultimately to your arrest over vandalism charges so these guys i'm sure have just been going through the world just basically not tipping just being jerks and there has been there hasn't been any real punishment for it other than servers being frustrated that they're working and and i mean i don't need to tell our listeners this because our listeners are awesome and they all know it but like there are certain cases where not tipping not only are you not giving the service person money you're costing them money because if you pay with a card they have it's taxed at a certain rate um they're taxed or at a certain rate because of the assumption that there's a tip and so if you don't tip them they're on the hook for that taxation on the bill even though they didn't receive any tip which is like unbelievably callous of people to to not leave tips in those situations but yeah my my answer to your question was is i'm sure these guys are just selfish jerks and they just have been they've just made the decision at some point well i'm going to pay less for everything because i can and they've been getting away with it but not anymore now there's a big debate as to what the punishment should be because i think a lot of the people in key west are like look they weren't trying to destroy the buoy they were trying to light this Christmas tree on fire they didn't even realize like it wasn't like an attempt to destroy the thing it was an attempt to light the Christmas tree on fire which is not cool but it was you know what I mean like should you should these you know guys go to jail for this and there's a sort of one part of Key West is like look everyone we've all been young and drunk and dumb I mean that's how you end up living in Key West let's be honest you were young and dumb and drunk at some point and then you just stayed um so there's a certain amount of like look these guys are idiots but like we're not going to like put them in jail for six months over this and then there's uh the prosecutor who's like most of the people who get arrested in key west are tourists they come down there they get too lit up at kevin's irish bar or the bubba gump shrimp company or whatever other place they go to on duval street and then they go out and they run amok they drunk drive they light things on fire and we need to send the message that you can't come down to key

west and just like mess the place up and so it'll be interesting to see which side wins out i mean i guess the prosecutor has more say in the matter than some random person on facebook in that the prosecutor tries the case but uh it'll be i'll be curious to see what happens to these folks well

to me it's a no-brainer you let the uh you let the bartenders and servers decide

what would a good yeah i mean the other thing is if these guys get community service somebody was saying their community service needs to be in key west not back in texas and virginia where they live like that doesn't make any sense they're sweeping up a street or picking litter out of the you know side of the freeway in texas it's like they got to come back down to key west and they got to like i don't know what community service in key west again they

should do community service in the hospitality industry like what is the worst job like is it in a restaurant is it is it bussing a table is it is it the is it working a bartending shift during like you know at like eight o'clock at Thursday Kevin's or whatever weeds yeah exactly it like be understaffed and nobody's allowed to tip like you're not allowed to accept any tips all the tips go to the bartenders who took the night off because you're like that oh god it'd be

wonderful this is the one time where we need one of those annoying judges who likes to do creative

sentencing yes yes yes yes

you know like and this judge needs to say okay your punishment is you have to work in Irish Kevins as barbacks for a week and every night all of the tips that would have gone to you are going to go to the staff of Irish Kevins and we're going to make you wear a t-shirt that says I do not tip what would judge

Steve Harvey say I'm looking up Steve Harvey now has that show begun yet we've talked about the fact that we talked about this as a top story right that Steve Harvey was Steve Harvey on cameo is the real question oh ah that would be near the top of my list actually that'd be pretty dope

honestly yeah you got Steve Harvey doing his apoplectic family feud look I kind of I know

that um like Genevieve hates him so much he's really yeah he's also like kind of got some like I think opinions that have Oh I would be unsurprised Yeah he's kind of a male

takes yeah i got some unpopular opinions well then i told you this on the show and again this

is rich coming from me somebody who publicly foreswore alcohol and then uh what's the opposite of foreswearing i started drinking for drinking i fordrinked i went from foreswearing to for drinking so i i'm not i'm not trying to say that i am uh in any way the person to look to on this topic but i thought it was funny i know i told you about this a couple months ago it was like a tiktok video that was an interview with steve harvey and i like for some reason the tiktok tiktok's trying to tell me something because i get a lot of like sobriety tiktoks and famous people whether it's steve-o from from jackass or whomever just people that are sober kind of talking i must have like let one of those videos go and then it started to go oh he likes this and i kind of do i find it intriguing as a topic whatever so it's steve harvey and he's talking about being sober and he's just like i don't i don't drink alcohol because i need to be mentally sharp and and he's like you know and then he's going on and on about this about how he doesn't drink it and he says at some point i forget exactly what he said but it was something

like i mean i'll have like two drinks oh right and i was like well my friend that's it feels

different than what the that was like um what was the what was the news thing mick jagger finally opens up about what happened to that North Carolina

bar right right well and also what was the big thing that I I couldn't find the drop that it reminded me of forever there was another person who talked about their sobriety and then then but it wasn't Steve Harvey it was somebody else right

but it was a guy it was it was kind of a joke or maybe it wasn't a joke but it was a guy who basically said like he's off of meth but he will do I believe it was cocaine beer it was like everything except for I will do a little too oh yeah but you're

You're doing the drop, but there was another story that led us to me finding that drop that I couldn't find in my library because I labeled it something. But it wasn't Steve Harvey. I thought there was another person who you're like, you sat down and watched an interview with them, and it was going to be about – maybe I'm just conflating it. Maybe it was Steve Harvey, but I thought it was somebody else, and you were just, like, astounded that, like, oh, that at the end they mentioned that they smoke weed or something.

Well, that's – I mean, again, I'm in a very precarious position talking about this. I mean, I guess that raises some – I mean, everyone just should do whatever feels right to them. So if being Cali sober is someone's thing, I salute them. I actually think that's the way to go. If I can just get on the right regimen of gummies or whatever, Cali sober seems like the move, like where you basically don't drink, but you engage with marijuana stuff because it's so much less bad for your body than alcohol.

Yeah.

But I don't I don't I just don't I can never get over the hump.

Yeah, I just don't think I mean, but it's just a different thing, though. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think as somebody who has partaken in both, like, there's nothing that makes me think that, like, it's going to replace it for you. It would just add to it. And again, I'm not even saying that in a judgy way. Like, but I don't think that, like, oh, it's a solution to your problem. It just adds another. It just adds another level of, well, fun times. No, I mean, you know what I mean? Where does some DMA come into the college? You're not going to be like, oh, I don't want to drink anymore. I just, I mean, maybe some people, I guess it works. But, like, what I know.

I know people in my own immediate, very immediate circle who stop drinking alcohol, but they'll still have, like, a gummy, and they seem very chill. And I'm like, maybe that's the way to go. I don't know.

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man, it's not from a female.

All right. Maybe an email or v-mail before we get out of here?

Yeah, I'll play you one voicemail here from listener Rachel. You were talking about the TV show Cheer earlier, Luke. I feel like this is very appropriate, coincidentally.

Hi, guys. Listener Rachel in Pittsburgh here. I was listening to the episode where you guys had Jen on, and Jen had mentioned Blue Ridge Swim Club in Ballard, which brought back this unearthed memory. My best friend Laura swam at Blue Ridge Swim Club, and she told me, I was like, wow, you're such an ass. I was so impressed by her, and she said they weren't very good. In fact, she shared with me her swim club cheer, that they would cheer on the side, and it stuck with me all these years later. So I wanted to share it with you guys. Blue Ridge, Blue Ridge, we have bad cheers. We haven't won a meet in 16 years. Go Blue Ridge. Power out.

No, that was not featured in your TV show, right?

I can get behind that. We have bad cheers. Maybe that's really what we need in the sort of cheerleading space is more realistic cheers. Self-deprecation. Right. I can get behind that. Because, you know, they're all very braggy. They're all... You got...

to want it to win it and we want it more you've got to want it to win it and we want it more how about just kind of like we're gonna try let's be let's be honest luke's 5 10 112 pounds probably not going to beat evergreen lutheran but you're really trying your hardest could have got down with that cheer we did beat evergreen lutheran by the way once in overtime you did points is the

greatest moment of my uh high school basketball what's the record of those two teams is that

like a rare win were you like no honestly I froze up there if I was thinking of teams that were hard to beat back then Christian Faith Center which was this mega church helmed by this guy Casey Treat Pastor Casey Treat they had a enormous mega church and so their school that was associated with it had they just had more kids at the school even though they were technically still in our league which was called the SeaTac B League, which is pretty far down the list of size of schools. But the Christian Faith Center had a really, really good team. And there was a school called Seattle Christian, which was not the school I went to, Jesus Creek, which was technically called North Seattle Christian. But there was a school called Seattle Christian that was down kind of by the airport. again they just had like a larger student body base and so they just had access to more people which meant more better players evergreen lutheran was was decent i think we split the season series with them they had a kid named bart henning who just would go off and that was one of the few games where i actually really had a critical impact on the game because i i think i still have the clipping somewhere like i scored 20 points i mean this makes al bundy talking about high school football actually seem entertaining or interesting relevant peg but um i think i had 20 we went to overtime i had like 20 points which was a lot for me and i think i maybe scored like the game winning shot i mean we like made probably a layup or something but i just remember at the end of that game feeling very very very triumphant so um i'm listening but also i'm on the judge

Steve Harvey page on Hulu here. I just wanted to see what was going on.

Andrew, judge not Steve Harvey

lest thee be judged.

Is that the show title? Sure. I was writing down, you can say everything anymore, but actually judge would you say judge not Steve Harvey? Yeah, lest

thee be judged, ye be Be judged.

Easy, be judged.

Anyway, they've only released two episodes so far. I saw that they were behind a paywall on the ABC.com website, but luckily, because I'm a paying member of Hulu, I can access it. It's not like Hulu Premium, which, my God, if it was, I was going to be angry. They've only released two episodes. I've got to say, the naming conventions and descriptions leave something to be wanted. Not Mending Fences is the name of Episode 1, and the description is A Fence is Damaged. I kind of like the simplicity there. Episode number two. Is it too late for me to get in on that with my old neighbor back in Seattle? Yeah, right.

Horn swoggled me on that fence situation?

Stuck on stupid is episode number two. So now we're getting a little bit sassy. Now we're starting to see some of that Judge Steve Harvey sass coming in here. A woman sues a raffle prize organizer. That actually kind of sounds interesting to me. But I don't know. I'm sure this show is terrible, but I'm tempted to check it out. Oh, I'd watch it. I would I would I'd give that a so to speak a day in court a day and oh that's what they should have called it a day in court oh and the other thing I want to mention here is um when you click on you may also like so if you like Judge Steve Harvey but you've watched the two episodes you don't want to wait another week for the next one you go to what other shows might you like one of them is uh that's my jam is this the Jimmy Fallon show that you were talking about before That's the show where I saw Anthony Anderson.

Yep. Like the big joke on that show, I mean, in the promo, the big joke that they're playing or that they keep showing in the promo, I think it might be T-Pain and Anthony Anderson are like in a sound booth and they're supposed to sing. I don't know if it's like Elton John or Billy Joel or something, but it's like they're supposed to sing the words to some song. And I believe Anthony Anderson says, we are far too black to know the words to that song. And then Jimmy Fallon falls out That's a good joke It's why it's like the main It's just like on repeat every time you see the promo

The actual like little button here Like the art for this show That's my jam with Jimmy Fallon holding a guitar Like it hurts me Just like looking The fact that that's my jam is one of my least

favorite phrases um everything about this hurts me but again it's just not for me i understand there are more people who like jimmy fallon than who don't like jimmy fallon so i like what you

like i like jimmy fallon i i've i've kind of i started off really liking him just thinking gosh this guy's very talented then when he tussled the hair the narrative really changed to being kind of like it's you can't elide you can't just have donald trump on your show and tussle his hair and everything's not a funny joke like there are things that are have real world implications and to any degree normalizing Donald Trump is not cool and then you had Colbert who's just like everything that you know critics of Jimmy Fallon would say Jimmy Fallon is not then it's like the story was Jimmy Fallon is like just in free fall over there at NBC and so now I see him as a little bit of an underdog figure he just appears outwardly unfazed just continues to do his show and do bits and just be delighted by everything. And I've kind of come back around to thinking warmly towards Jimmy Fallon.

Yeah, and for me, it's like I don't even know. There's just something about this particular thing. I'm not into the, I don't know. James Corden came on the TV in a commercial yesterday, and I just walked by and grumbled something. Jimmy's just like, why do you hate him so much? I'm like, I don't know. I just don't like that kind of stuff. And then when everybody loves it, and I know that I'm on the wrong side of this for most of our listeners. I'm not saying I'm right about this I'm just saying I'm a cranky old man Who doesn't like carpool karaoke It hurts my teeth to even say those words And I just see him I'll bet you he is a sweet guy I'll bet you of a celebrity Who you were to meet I'll bet you Corden is a pretty damn good guy So it doesn't really make sense Gordon, is it Corden?

Corden, that's what I said, isn't it? Well you said James Corden at first And then you said Gordon And I just wanted to make sure

Oh, I think maybe I maybe just sounded that way. But yeah, I bet she's a nice guy. But God, he comes on TV. I'm just like, turn the throw away the TV.

Well, because this is the thing we know from the photo of you as a child disagreeing with the singing of happy birthday to you, the child. Right. That was your birthday.

Yeah.

That you have had a longstanding kind of discomfort around enforced merriment, relentless, relentless merriment. It's just not your thing for for lots of reasons that you've explained or whatever. And so the kind of television that revolves around the kind of television for which the dilithium crystal is extreme merriment. It's just not for you. So get in the car. We're going to do these songs like that. just that's just like you said that kind of sets your teeth on edge yeah and also i think there's

something that is so so fabricated about these late night tv segments whether it's in the studio or outside the studio where it's supposed to seem like that that's like the great white whale for all these things right to like kind of recapture that idea of we're we're all just goofing around here and it's spontaneous but like there is just not there and i think that's what it is i think it whatever sets me off about like uh award shows and the banter with uh within you know like in whatever the presentation is it all of that stuff just sets my teeth on edge I think award show ceremonies are like the epitome of it but there's something about like whether it's Fallon or Corden or whatever just like kind of like being like oh we're just being real here aren't we Lady Gaga and it's like no you're not being real like this has been so vetted and so scripted and so It just seems like such bullshit to me, but it's packaged as just these moments of unbridled fun where you don't know what's going to come around the corner.

Like TBTL.

Moments of unbridled fun where you don't know what's going to come around the corner. In this case, today was kind of like, I don't know if it was unbridled fun, but we definitely didn't know what was coming around the corner. This has been a long, weird show. It wasn't bridled. It was definitely not bridled. Which only leaves unbridled as the option.

There is bridled or unbridled, and I think we were unbridled today.

Are we going out with Low by Flo-Rida? Sure. And we're talking about Florida a lot. That's all I got.

I told you that I was in my late 20s before I realized that Flo-Rida was a reference to Florida.

I don't know where I was.

I feel like everyone remembers where they were when they realized that Flo-Rida was a play on Florida. Because I just had heard it. Oh, yeah, Flo Rida. Sure, Flo Rida.

Yeah.

Flo Rida, whatever. And then all of a sudden it was like, oh, yeah, like Florida, like the state of Florida.

Yeah, I definitely, I don't want to make it sound like I just knew that, like, coming out of the box. I have no idea. I wish I could remember where I was when somebody explained to me that Flo Rida is in Florida. Now, here's a question.

Is this song, this song is appropriate, right? I think so. I mean, if you're talking. Apple bottom jeans with the boots with the fur. I almost. She hit the floor. Next thing you.

know shorty got low low somebody's dancing i mean they're using it in fred meyer commercials andrew

oh that's right with those little things the reason i'm stalling here and the cartoon characters

kind of drop it too like it's it's like if you know you know if you don't know you're just like oh the prices are low and these cartoons are dancing but if you know like you're like wow kind of we're sort of going from the windows to the wall here a bit trying to remember how you

find your favorites on tiktok my one of my favorite tiktoks of all time you know i don't spend a lot of time in the space but then every now and then i'll i'm i'm on there for both of us don't you okay oh here it is it's not going to pay off kind of visually here but it's a young woman on a bus i'm going to put her in maybe i don't know i call everybody young now she's like she's an adult woman she's probably in her 20s or something and she's the only person on this apparently city bus and she's wearing a black cloth mask as we do these days right and um At one point, she just puts the front of the mask into her mouth so that when she moves her mouth, she looks like a Muppet. Is this a thing that a lot of people are doing? Or do you just know this particular one, I believe? See, I'd never seen it before. And she just like without doing anything to her eyes and just looking just dead eyed straight ahead at the camera. she lip syncs a version of this song that is actually low sung to the tune of riders on the storm by the doors this is like so many there's so many things this is what i love about tiktok

and this is why it's also so hard to for people that don't go on there a lot it's so hard to explain how sort of permutated and layered and iterative it is because you have so many songs that are the wrong words so quote-unquote wrong words that are then sung like it starts off with there's a song that someone uses and then someone comes in and and does the same song but with different words and then someone does you know like it just keeps evolving to where it's completely confusing if you haven't been kind of following the thread and i need to figure out i need to

click on this and see if um she attributes where this version of the song comes from because i've googled it and i haven't come up with anything i'm gonna play this for you you don't get the visuals here but

that's it uh and there's something about her the visuals of her just dead-eyed but then lip-syncing

this through a mask that makes her look like a muppet is just one of the most delightful things to me it's just like it's honestly like i almost want to like write to her and just say like this is like a mood lifter like for me like i'm feeling down going to my favorites and watching this video

makes me giggle like a child well a big part of my so my personal information organizing system is to text myself things constantly and half of the texts of myself are just things that i forwarded myself from tiktok where i want to listen to that song more but it turns out it's just the song is 12 seconds long oh yeah yeah like did you did any of the bing bong stuff make its way into your life i think i talked about it on the show but you know you got the the guy in coney island who thinks that joe biden's name is joe byron yes i remember you mentioning that bing bong like so the new york knicks games people would say bing bong kind of like making the sound of the subway it became a chant there and then it became this thing that this um this this particular comedy website um i think it's called like side talk or something they would say bing bong and then they would say f your life but they would use the real word and all these anyway so then somebody went and took the tape of the guy saying bing bong and they made it into that kanye song runaway where he's just playing the very spare piano note you know ding ding ding dong ding ding ding dong which then goes into runaway the the kanye song but they made it sorry i thought my computer was down bing basically it's the guy it's bing bong they've taken the guy saying bing bong and made it into the kanye song and it's like i mean i described it terribly there and i'm sorry everyone had listened to me trying to sing a piano riff from kanye but it's like it's so weird and complicated but i'll go try to find these songs because a lot of them are just genuinely catchy and then the song is 12 seconds long some you know i'll call him a kid too some kid just made it on their phone to make their friend laugh and now it's got 20 million hits and i want it to be a full

four minute song yeah but luke man comedians are running scared man just there's no comedy anymore well i think i found a two minute version of this and it's just what i love about this is it's just labeled as the doors apple bottom jeans online so let's just go out with this if you guys

The guy sounds like he's singing like he's Hank Hill, which I'm sure he isn't. He just has kind of that West twangy voice.

I followed this from TikTok to YouTube. I hope this pays off. If not, I'll fix this all in post. I'll just redo the whole show without you. Nobody will notice. I have a bunch of things in the can of you just saying words so I can recreate the show.

All right. Thanks for listening, everyone. We will be right back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio for you. Until then, have a great Tuesday. Take care of yourselves. And please remember, no mountain too tall. Good luck to you all. Hope this pays off.

Apple bottom jeans. Boots with the fur. This is different. The whole club was looking

Looking at her We were so close to getting out of here.

She hit the floor and

I'll take a drink now. I will take a drink, but I do not. Freebase cocaine. But, you know, I'll take a drink and I might even smoke a little reef. You know, I like to smoke, reefer. You know, it relaxes me and everything. A couple of doobies, you know, just to get you through the day and everything. But as far as basing goes, I don't do it. Now, I'll do some toot now. Don't get me. I will do some toot, you know. You know, if you party and everything, somebody comes up and gives it to you, it's impolite not to take it there. So me and my girlfriend, Sally, we, you know, we party, man. I tell you, we do parties. So, you know, I will do some toot. We do, you know, on a good weekend, we call a bunch of friends over there. We do about an eight ball of toot there. But we don't base. I do not free base cocaine. We'll make that clear. I don't do it. Power out.