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How you doing there, dude? Not too good, man. One of those days, huh? Yeah. Well, a wiser fellow than myself once said, sometimes you eat the bar and... What's your bud? Sometimes the bar, well, he eats you. That some kind of Eastern thing? Far from it. T-B-T-L. We might have tacos tonight. It's in material.

This party is going to be off the hook.

All right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Two bros, bro hit it up. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host.

There's a hidden rally ranch party in my mouth.

Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in beautiful Portland, Oregon.

And when I say beautiful, I mean be beautiful.

It's like day three or four in a row of just gorgeous cold, but gorgeous clear weather here in the PNW. And I will take it. And I am, as the kids stopped saying a long time ago, I am here for it, my friends. And you all are here for this, episode 3607 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. Speaking of the young people, I was intrigued by this story of a young guy in Boise, Idaho, who loves libraries and loves writing his own books and decided to sneak one of his books into the public library.

He always be sneaky like how I get chocolate.

He always be sneaky like how I get chocolate. It's a cute, heartwarming story that, of course, Andrew thinks has some bunk journalism going on.

I'd like to point out to anybody watching, this is really bunk journalism.

So we'll talk about that. We'll also talk about some television recommendations, including Someone, Somewhere, the new Bridget Everett show on HBO, which looks incredible. And it doesn't just look incredible, it is incredible. I watched both. There's like two episodes out. I burned through them last night. and I'm jonesing for more. I'm also watching some stuff on YouTube that I don't know if I can recommend or not. You face. Who are you facing? We'll probably get into that. And something I know we'll get into because it's a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day,

are the Blur's Day messages.

We'll do all of that with the help of this young man, the longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. Please welcome. Please welcome the wickedly talented Andrew Walsh to the program Joining us from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington Good morning, my friend

Good morning, Luke Have I been saying grip a lot lately? As in, I'm going to go down to the butcher shop And get myself a grip of land yeagers

I don't think I've ever heard you say that But of course, that was something I grew up with Like when I was in about middle school People started saying grip to mean a lot of something

It's a word that I like I got a note here from a really sweet note from Spencer in Amsterdam who says, I've noticed, I'm just kind of paraphrasing here, could you explain your new, more frequent use of the word agrip or the phrase agrip? I have no qualms with it. In fact, I mean, Spencer is going out of their way to make sure that this is not taken as an offense or an affront to me. In fact, the subject line is, this is about agrip, but this is no gripe. I've noticed I've watched it a few times lately on TBTL. Quit your gripping. ATM and Spotless. Did I miss this before? Have you always used it? Why are you using it more now? Is it a Utica thing? Et cetera, et cetera. And then signs off. My apologies, Spencer in Amsterdam.

Spencer sounds like our kind of listener.

Exactly.

Managing our feelings, apologizing at the end. That's how we like the emails. You know what, Spencer?

Maybe this show just isn't for you. No. I don't know. I will say that that is a turn of phrase that I like. But now I don't think I realized I've been saying it, but I don't think Spencer is wrong. And I'm wondering now if this is something I've either picked up from you or it seems most likely you, but maybe Camaro Kev. Is there somebody in our circle who says this a lot? And I.

am kind of uh picking it up from them that's that's a bad habit of mine that i don't like

well how else do people pick things up yeah you know from kind of socializing with somebody who's using some terminology somewhere and then someone else hears it and then they start using it i um i it's hard to go back in the memory banks and think about how often i use that i don't think i use it a ton anymore but yeah when i was in like middle school and high school whenever you were gonna have a lot of something oh we have i just have like a grip of these sd cards now and you do have a grip of sd cards i do i love it is that now that would be interesting because you know we talk on the show sometimes about like a murder of crows or a parliament of owls what is the terminology for when you order multiple sd cards off the internet because you're afraid you're gonna forget and not have one when you're on a remote recording which is what i was bumping up against is that a is it an amazon of sd cards is it a grip of sd cards it's a giga grab of sd cards i will start listening for the next time that you say grip andrew and i will note it on the show i'm also wondering if you if it's not and i don't know why this would be the case but if it's something that you're using more on after these messages and spotless yeah that's true too yeah that's that's what Spencer is it possible you got it from Hannah Brooks Olson I can't picture that

but maybe I do think though I don't think that this is something that I've said my whole life and like I think Spencer is on to something that this is something that because it is definitely when I read that I'm like oh yeah I do like that phrase a grip of something but it's also something that seems sort of new to me and it is probably something that I heard somebody say and now I'm going around saying it all the time and I guess it's not so bad if you don't think it's something like i've had friendships where i definitely start like taking on either the vernacular or sometimes and this is even worse like what i think is the just kind of um i don't know that the manner of people around me in a way especially if the manner of a friend or colleague or whatever is something sort of outside the norm um like i think my when i was hanging out a lot with my friend josh in new hampshire this is a fellow that you've met before and i've mentioned him

on the show quite a bit. Imagine Steven Wright with less

charisma. Hey, that's my friend. But yeah, as dry and as droll. I mean, you know how when we were all working at, even though he's like the opposite of this person, you know how when we were working at Cairo Radio, everybody kind of had an imitation of Don O'Neill. Like you just eventually, you develop an imitation of Don O'Neill and then if you're all having drinks somewhere or hanging around the water cooler, somebody's going to start doing some sort of Don O'Neillism. Josh was the same way. On the opposite end of the energy spectrum of course just like you know he's just got this way of like kind of dismissing you and being like kind of very dry and he has various mannerisms that i felt and there was a period of time when i was hanging out with him a lot and it was really hard for me to not to it was hard for me to avoid burbank what is he like all of 98 pounds there's don o'neill my don o'neill by the way i like to take my um my forefinger and thumb and kind of make a ring around my wrist while i'm talking you ever notice he does that oh yeah that's kind of a good that's

a move you know that i have really taken something from from don uh and his sort of way of doing radio shows and i'm doing it right now i'm standing while we're recording this i started this about the time that i moved to this particular apartment and i don't know why that was the shift for me but I just thought well I'll start standing while I'm doing the show and I have to say I absolutely love it I don't know if it's notable to the listeners I don't know if there's like huh Luke's contribution to the show seemed to improve at some point but it is I think it really does make me ever so slightly better at this and I can't put my finger on why I guess it would just be maybe more energy like if you're standing it's impossible to kind of move into full lethargy but that was a big thing he was always standing when he would do the show I find myself standing here I think gesticulating more because of the fact that I'm standing and also I have a very long these headphones that I have have a very very long cable on them so what I'll do is while the intro package is playing I will be wandering around this office which is also very Don O'Neill-ish I'll be like I said writing my red x on my dry erase board if I did my jog already that day and kind of just getting in the mood sometimes i'll even do like a little maybe dance move or something like i'm getting in the zone for doing this show in a way that i didn't

previously when i was just sitting still no i think that's really good and i you know i've been kind of talking about the fact that vives and i are thinking hey we we might move we might not renew a uh a lease in this particular apartment and so our eyes are kind of wandering and as we as we talk about that i keep thinking like about changes i could potentially make in my life when we move if we move i'm going to become a completely different person luke i don't know if you know that a lot of oh you're going to burbank it i'm going to going to be biking more we're thinking about maybe getting a dog is going to be so i know this is very unlike grip of new habits this is kind of unlike me because i don't really think that changing your scenario changes who you are but there are certain things in our life that we've been kind of putting off like we've you know we've dreamt of having a dog for a long time but never thought we had the space and now we're thinking hey if we got a place with space and we are down a pet right now and genevieve is genevieve is not cool with being in a one pet household she feels It's like we always need two pets. You need an heir and a spare. Exactly. She's trying to talk me into becoming a three-pet household, possibly. Well, whatever. Let's not get into that. Thruppet. So anyway, I'm going to be a completely different person who bikes around town with a baguette in my basket, with a dog following me behind, wearing probably like a bandana around its neck. Yes, per chip. Totally different. And I'm going to be standing for TBTL. I mean, the thing about investing in a good stand-up desk is that really changes one. Like, I'd have to make a lot of changes in my studio to make that happen.

Less than you would think. Can I just tell you not to turn this into an ad for fully. The one time, the erstwhile sponsor of the Livewire radio program, still have a lot of good friends over there. But I'm standing right now behind a fully sit-stand desk. I think the price on these things, whether you buy it from there or somewhere else, um because becca has one as well it's not a fully she got one i think like on amazon which was shockingly reasonable they really do the sit stand nature of them is is is quite something because you don't it doesn't you don't have to commit to one or the other so it really it goes up and down and like right now i'm standing it's at a certain level but if later i want to sit i can lower the desk the one trick is you just have to make sure you have enough slack in the cables yeah that's the thing i plug-ins but it's it's very doable though i mean that's in fact it just give you another project to solve for yeah and then i have to say it is really uh i'm enjoying the experience of being able to stand and then what's weird though is i sit while i'm doing live wire i don't know what that indicates like if i'm taking tbtl more seriously than live wire or if i think of live wire as something that's more sedate than tbtl but it's like i stand now I kneel for the flag I stand for TVTL

and I run from no one Andrew I kneel to pray I stand for the flag is that what the bumper sticker says

that's my new t-shirt I stand for the flag no I kneel for the flag I stand for oh dear god I don't know what was that who was the guy I can't find the drop on the fly here but I don't drop my eyes I've never lowered my gaze to any man

that's another mystery drop isn't that one that you and I just grabbed when we were covering some story on Cairo Radio but it was kind of one of those ephemeral stories and now we have no idea who that man is or do you have a better do you have a better grip on that than I do

I cannot figure out what the heck I named that stupid thing back in the day so I can't actually find it which makes this less interesting but he was like I'll never drop my eyes to I'll never drop my eyes to another man to another living being let me see if living being would find something i'm looking

on my end too because i feel like we both had it because it came through the well thank god we built you what a blessing for the community that's not what we're talking about but it has god in it and i just wanted to buy us some time i believe he was like i'll never lower my gaze listeners are

like throwing their phones i also feel andrew this just could be like i'm sure this isn't the case but i feel like i lost a bunch of drops at some point because of the cloud situation well but but yes but that doesn't make sense because a lot of the drops i have in this one particular system were on a thumb drive from one of our tbtl interns back in the day who i asked i can't believe i'm forgetting this young man's name but we had a an intern who uh who i said as the was as the end was drawing nigh i said can you just do me a favor can you try to get every single drop from tbtl onto a thumb drive for me please and he did but then i and then i loaded it onto here and so there it shouldn't be dependent on the cloud but i have this weird feeling like sometimes i'll go look for a drop and i can't find it but it's sort of like when i move an app on my phone i'm convinced that the app got deleted it's just somewhere i'm just looking in the wrong place

for it so yeah yeah that was that was i mean the funny thing is a thumb drive full of drops from like when you think about the existence of the show now like those first what was it so that would have been the first like year and a half of tbtl was on the radio it's gone somebody pointed out not to be self-aggrandizing but i saw some sort of chatter on slack i think that We'll be right back. We must be coming up to my 10-year anniversary. My 10-year anniversary. Oh, you have eyes on that? That surprises me. I've got people reaching out through various back channels. Oh, really? So it's a thing. Okay. Well, you know, I love surprises and really big deals made on my behalf.

February will be Andrew's 10-year anniversary.

Can we recreate the photo from my childhood where a bunch of people are singing happy birthday around me and I'm holding my hands over my ears and wincing?

I will never sing happy birthday for another man.

I can't believe I can't find this drop. I know that this is in one of the, like, I'm pretty sure I've had this because it's in some of the montages that we play at the beginning of the show. This is driving me...

Mortal. Oh, I wonder if mortal. Mortal. That's what he's...

Mortal man, yeah.

He says mortal, right? Yeah, he does. Mortal man. But I have nothing under mortal. I do have a lot from Mort. What do you got from Mort? What do you got from Mort? I got a lot of stuff from my agent, Mort. Oh, I love Mort. One of your... One of your from Rick and Morty.

Sir, the doctor's appointment to examine the discoloration on your butthole flaps was... Beep! Too loud, Cynthia. Too loud and too specific. I beeped it on this end, Luke. It probably sounded off over there, but it was perfect.

Uh-huh. I don't know. I can't find that. I did want to talk to you, Andrew. I want to report back on my experience over the last 24 hours of displaying Paris Hilton's bored ape NFT whatever thing as my Twitter avatar. It was a sort of a nothing burger. I was kind of surprised.

I was wondering. Nobody commented on it. Okay, yeah. I didn't think they would, honestly. That's why I was surprised. I was like, oh, so you did get some action. But you didn't.

Well, no. I mean, I think one person just sort of casually responded to it. Like I said yesterday on the show, I didn't know what was going to be worse. If people said something or didn't say anything, I am going to my uh my twitter account here to see what um let's see here scrolling down uh to try to find something on it I just like I didn't want people to think that I was I didn't want people to think that I was trying to present someone else's quote-unquote property as my own but even actually kind of more uh critically I didn't want people to think that I'm a bored ape guy and I said this on the show yesterday I didn't want people to think I rolled up to twitter on one of those powered unicycles that everybody in portland every tech bro is like obsessed with riding around on like i think a this board these board apes i actually think are kind of entertaining images i'm not against the aesthetic of them but it's not for me it's not how i want to try to demonstrate or show people my value on twitter so the hardest part of leaving it up for 20 and i'm going to take it down soon like the hardest part about leaving it up was that people would think that i was a guy who was like let me tell you about nfts like that i had sure yeah people who didn't people who don't listen to tbtl who don't know anything about me or maybe do but they're behind on the show would just think one day oh luke just decided that board ape nft images are the cool thing like and it's very elon musk and i did not like uh i did by the way um i think this is our friend melisande out in new york had an update on this because the reason that i was on the subject of these board ape things was because paris hilton was on jimmy

fallon's show which yeah and it was a good refresher for me because you had told me about these board apes before but i didn't know about them but now i feel like i got them locked in my brain i can i can picture what you're talking about and i'm with you they're cute little images

i like them yes uh mallie said luke that whole fallon hilton thing was just an ad for the mlm that is nft i think she means multi-level marketing they're making it legit by putting their names behind it which they were paid a lot to do that's why it's so stilted and cringe um and Mellie said no worry about the ape I think it's funny but see that's because Mellie was in on the joke Mellie heard the show yeah and um and and knew what I was doing now this was the thing too after that I did a little bit of uh gorgling and I didn't even play all of the tape of Paris Hilton explaining NFTs to Jimmy Fallon because I think we had sort of proved the point but what I didn't put together because i hadn't played all the tape was that yeah they were talking about their board ape nfts which they both own and therefore by talking about them on national television they're generating interest in something that they have a financial stake in how's that not illegal well this is the question that the la times is looking into brian contraris writing for the times uh i think this morning that so jimmy fallon the thought is that he bought his picture of a monkey for two hundred and sixteen thousand dollars back in november okay and i mean what he really bought was he bought oh yeah and it's probably gone up since then but what he bought was a record on the blockchain yeah saying that he owns this of course right um because and paris hilton who nobody knows what uh paris hilton bought hers for but uh presumably somewhere in that same neighborhood and so here i can just shift command four and and take a picture of paris hilton's board ape and then make it my avatar and no one says anything or notices meaning that paris hilton and i have the same twitter avatar if we if she that's what she's using the only thing that that makes hers valuable is that she actually has the receipt for hers on the blockchain so if she wants to sell it she could sell it to somebody else but of course the only value in these bored apes is what other people will pay for them and so the la times was trying to figure out if it's actually uh illegal or at least a violation of comcast that who that's who owns nbc universal if it's a violation of comcast's policy for jimmy fallon to be hyping these Bordeaux NFTs when he owns one that could presumably go up in value.

Yeah, because if this was stock, that would be regulated, what, by the SEC or something? Like, if you're a broadcaster, like, you know, in Jimmy Fallon's position and you own stock in something and then you start having a bunch of guests on, in any way that starts to, like, kind of build the value of that stock, that would be illegal. Am I wrong about that?

I don't know if it would be Illegal but it would seem like it would be against company Policy here is what the NBC Universal rules are It mandates that all employees quote Disclose and obtain approval for all Outside work financial interests and other Personal activities that may create Or appear to create a conflict The same policy says that employees Should not quote use company info resources Time etc for personal benefit So An NBC spokesperson said that Fallon did not violate the company's conflict of interest policy, noting that hosts are able to promote outside projects such as books and movies. But, again, I'm just reading directly from Brian Contreras' writing in the LA Times here. Those are creative endeavors, like the books and movies, that in turn serve to promote NBC programming, whereas an NFT is a financial asset in a class where value is closely tied to virality and influencer adoption. So it's not like he's promoting a book, and it's not like he's... Again, I don't, God bless Jimmy Fallon. I don't think Jimmy Fallon is savvy enough to try to construct this segment to hype his board ape so he can sell it for more later. I just don't think he's that calculating. I think probably he thinks they're cool. Paris Hilton is always up for a new business endeavor. I think Paris Hilton is a lot smarter than people give her credit for. And I think that they just thought it'd be something to talk about. I don't think this is Jimmy Fallon Trying to drive the price up on his little investment But that being said It's also probably not cool If you're driving up the value of your investment Using NBC's airtime

This is the LA Times you're quoting from Do they get it all into whether or not The value went up Once you made it your avatar I

That's I believe they're going to update the story this afternoon Once they get

those that data back i actually wonder if that would if that would increase the value or decrease the value does it make it more common or does it does it give it that good burbank stank um is there

a bad burbank stank yes the description of a good burbank stank indicates that there's such a thing as a bad burbank stank and i just don't think that's true i mean somebody on the internet was calling nfts the beanie babies for this generation yes which i thought was a pretty clever way to describe it because listen i am inclined to want to say that nfts are a scam why because i don't own any nfts like i want it to be a scam because i want i don't want to be sad that i didn't like get in on the ground floor of some nft that's now worth millions of dollars that's kind of also my opinion on crypto i sort of want crypto to be a to be a fad so that i don't feel personally bad for missing the kind of ground floor of that whole thing.

I wanted to become a fad, a passing fad, so that I don't have to understand it. Well, that too. I remember when this stuff was starting to kind of blow up, not so much NFTs, but like kind of Bitcoin and BitCurrency or whatever you would call it. Back when I was actually like working on a news show, and I remember we'd always have conversations like, do we have to do a Bitcoin segment? Like we kind of have to do a Bitcoin segment, right? And even our host who was really smart would be like, I just are we going to get to a point where we don't have to talk about this anymore because it doesn't really make sense to me I am I am so so incredibly poorly informed on this topic so let me just go ahead and say a few things about it so I'll try to keep this to 20 minutes what strikes me that the challenge around

NFT excuse me the challenge around Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to me seems to be that we are still at a point where the sort of economic systems the banking systems the financial institutions of countries like the United States still can if they choose to have a huge impact on all of these crypto markets if it ever is going to be and yeah there are some things you can do with crypto there are some you know like you can take your pay in crypto I think the new mayor of new york eric adams is taking his pay in crypto he like wants to make new york the crypto headquarters and he's trying to prove that by taking his pay in crypto there are some ways to to sort of like turn your crypto money into real world money but for it to for that money to convert it from the kind of theoretical if you will or to convert it from ones and zeros somewhere on a blockchain to money that you're walking around with in your pocket or that you can buy a house with it has to go through some formalized system and that's the choke point that's the chris sullivan choke point for this because the whole the dream of crypto is that it's decentralized that the government can't like tell you what to do with it they can't tell you what to spend it on or not spend it on they can't tell you how much of it to move around it's it exists outside of governmental regulation which is a big part of the appeal but the problem is if i ultimately want to buy a house with my crypto it's extremely hard for me to convert it into usable money without going through one of the established systems and if those established systems if the if the i don't even know what branch of the u.s government would do this but if they decided to start taxing crypto heavily when you converted it it would change the whole you know what i mean it would it would sort of in a in a certain way if i understand things right it would it would take away a lot of what the appeal of crypto is for people because again what's the selling point on it is this is its own cool thing that the the government's not involved with but but it kind of is at some point and at some at some level if they so choose to mess with

it and and we'll and the government will probably get more involved you would think if it does end up becoming more common they're the government and we believe they don't like people yeah that's the thing like you and i are guys who believe in regulation that things should be regulated for a reason and of course this whole thing has been birthed out of the kind of silicon valley libertarian ideal right yeah exactly like the whole selling point of it sorry my microphone is I don't know how I did this but I actually you're too you're Don O'Neill-ing it too much too much energy

this talk is too hot I wish you could see what I'm dealing with right now did you did it fly

off the handle did it literally fly off the um the mic stand right out of the car

uh hold on i'm fixing it everything's okay everything is all right ouch uh i do i fidget with my microphone constantly throughout the show and what it does is eventually it has the effect of slowly and imperceptibly unscrewing the like oh yes kind of little support the little claw if you will that's keeping the microphone attached to the sit stand desk and about once every three weeks i've managed to wriggle the whole thing loose without realizing it yep and then i'm in trouble anyway um yeah i mean that the idea of a completely unregulated class of financial asset doesn't not lend itself to illegal activity or potentially illegal activity and also not paying taxes and also all i'm not saying that like the the regulations that we have on on finances are like perfect or anything but there's sort of a reason that that stuff has been created and this kind of goes around all that and i can't see the united states government indefinitely being like yeah we don't care about this thing where there's i don't know trillions of dollars floating around uh that uh you know we could get a piece of and that we could also kind of track and see what people are doing etc i i uh i started off saying that i'm not much of a crypto head but but not to brag, Andrew, I was able to get right into the crypto market about a month ago right before it collapsed and to lose half of

my tiny investment. Oh, my goodness. I don't think I realized that it collapsed. Well, I mean, you know, stay strong. What do they say? Diamond grip, hold the line. Like, you know. Huh. A grip of diamond

grip? I don't know. Diamond grip, hold the

line. I don't know if that was something that all of them were saying or if it was just something that one guy on the Levitard show kept saying. Like, when the NFT stuff was like really popping off oh no you know what it wasn't nft stuff it was the um it was the stock market uh when everybody's playing with the stock market and the game stop like game stop yes i can't remember what the shorthand for that little period was but um producer mike ruiz or mike um whatever mike uh on that show was he was like kind of like really hype he was playing an exaggerated version of himself.

where he was always saying, like, hold the line, hold the line, you know, diamond. I think he said, like, diamond-type grip. I can't remember exactly what he was saying. But anyway, I don't know if that was a common expression or if I'm just quoting another podcast.

Well, what happened to me was we had a friend who was launching a project, an NFT project, that actually seemed pretty interesting. And this person said to our friend group, hey, if you want to, if anybody wants in on the ground floor of this, let's go for it. I tried to get in on the ground floor of it, and on the day, And there was like a two-hour window where you could get in on this thing at some special rate or whatever. And, of course, during that two hours, my crypto account, which I had put some money in from my real-world account so I could get in on this opportunity, my crypto account decided to just glitch out. And so the system—anyway, the point is it would not allow me to buy into this special project. This was also the morning I was swimming in San Francisco, Andrew

Oh, wow, a lot going on

It was especially poor timing Like I had like, I was like, I have to be at the water at like 5.50 a.m. I was like between 5.40 and 5.50 I can try to like invest this And it's a small amount of money We're not talking about, you know, thousands and thousands of dollars It was a really, really tiny amount of money But I couldn't invest it in the thing that I had put it in this crypto account for so now it's in the crypto account and i go okay well it's just in there in some other crypto which has now lost half of its value since two weeks ago i didn't even know that they had a penny heart branded cryptocurrency who knew that my sports gambling would be a way less risky investment than my stupid i mean what is crypto other than betting also but uh but anyway so back to the fallon paris hilton thing i i doesn't sound like he's in trouble with nbc over this they're kind of standing by him but uh i just thought people might want to get the update on all of that and also the fact that nobody online cares what my avatar is no but it does raise the question what

is your what is your new avatar going to be i mean that's i want to go back to my old one i liked it it was me i believe it was theo in the background yeah that's a cute one yeah do it yeah and i'm

I kind of, I like that because I'm near a microphone at your house, which I think indicates visually that that's kind of what I do. I'm also, listen, peace and love to people on Twitter doing whatever they want, but I am not personally a huge fan of Twitter accounts that don't have some kind of picture of the person. now I can imagine a world in which if I were a woman and I didn't want to come in for all kinds of internet creepery I wouldn't necessarily want to have my photo on my Twitter account just because of how lame people can be online so that's I want to put that to the side because I don't want to get a bunch of emails from our listeners who are women on Twitter who said you don't understand how gross it is out there I can imagine that that's the case but when somebody comes at me on Twitter and their avatar is just a picture of like a cartoon character that's unrelated to anything and then their name is something like you know D's Nuts I just don't take it as seriously because I feel like this is a burner account that's me by the way I'm sorry oh yeah okay well I you've been blocked for about two years now in case you're wondering why I haven't been responding to your various comments

In case you're wondering why nobody commented on your new avatar I did, you just didn't see it I've been blocked

So I tend to I always want to have one of the pictures Because you know you have two pictures on Twitter You have your little thing in a circle And then you have like the banner I guess you'd call it And I want one of those for me to at least Have some sort of indication Of my physical face And so I like that one That picture that's from your house Because I was like exhausted i think that was a day when i had been like filming stuff all day for microsoft it came to your house i think we had to record like two shows at night and i was like theo was crashed out i was about to crash out i think you had just gone into the other room so so it's to me it's a good picture because it's it kind of indicates i work in the broadcast field i'm kind of like almost asleep on camera it's not like a head shot like it's not like me you know yeah all like the most sort of professional and lit I can be and I don't mean lit like popping off I mean like with the lighting but it also does represent somewhat my physical face which I feel like for me anyway is something I want to have so I can stand behind my tweets right before I delete them

I and I know that I didn't want to talk about Theo a lot right after he died because I was scared of getting upset but so I don't want to put you in a position where I'm bringing him up and you don't know what you can say Luke like this is a free-for-all here uh I'm fine but um And, you know, I actually had this thought just to be, you know, I like to practice radical honesty, Luke. That's not a Don O'Neill thing, is it? Do I have Don O'Neill on the brand? I don't believe that. If you're going to try to get dynamic by being specific right here, that would be a Don O'Neillism.

Isn't there somebody who talks about radical transparency a lot in the broadcast space? Anyway, it doesn't matter. What I was going to say was a while back, I don't know, a few weeks ago, a month ago or something, I looked at your Twitter avatar. I'm like, oh, Theo is still in Luke's Twitter avatar. And then I thought and I made an assumption. I'm like, I wonder if Luke is in a prickly place where he wants to at some point change his Twitter avatar, but then doesn't want to disrespect Theo's memory or doesn't want to. That's the type of thing where I could sort of see you getting in your head about like, well, I'd be bummed if I take down Theo. So I figured that once you once you had a reason to move on to something like this NFT, you would be happy to then like, OK, that's a reason to move out. and now you can transition to something else. I actually have a bored

Theo NFT drawn by the same guy. No, but let me ask you this, not to get overly serious about it, but like, do you have an opinion one way or the other about because something I hadn't thought of until you noted that Theo was in the background was, you know, that's your beloved cat and if I have a picture of him on my thing, that's in a way that's me kind of co-opting Theo and Theo's memory. Are you cool with, if I want to go

back to that picture does that feel okay to you oh yeah i think it's a cute picture and i like it i honestly thought that you might be feeling like uh how much time do i have to wait before i take

down the dead no photo no i i want to go back to that photo i yesterday to prove the point which of course i didn't prove anything i just wanted to see what would happen like i almost some part of me thought that like if paris hilton paid let's just say she paid 200 grand for this thing you'd think she'd have some kind of google alert about like other people using it but there would

be no way i mean even if right first of all i don't think that's the case and also there's just no way there's literally i don't think a way that you could be scanning every twitter avatar out there and plus like it's just i just don't think that's not where the value is i mean our show pick yesterday was right jimmy fallon holding up the photo of that exact thing you know what i mean

the value isn't in the isn't in the pixels as you said right um yeah i guess i mean it would be kind of funny if the internet just decided to do a sort of i am spartacus move where everyone makes it their avatar i guess that would only all that would do would be drive the price up for her so she's got the receipt for it but i was going to say like it's almost a thing like if everyone decided if there was some nft out there that somebody was using and it was all valuable if everybody just started using it be kind of i don't know sort of dilute the whole thing but i guess ultimately would only actually make that thing more appealing to people hey before we go to a

break and this is a kind of a kind of a sharp left turn except it's something that also was mentioned briefly in yesterday's show that it's an interesting payoff on and i'm just thinking of it now because i happen to be on twitter and i'm seeing it as one of the things that's trending uh we mentioned briefly on the show yesterday that neil young was telling spotify hey if you're going to keep on supporting joe rogan's lies then you're gonna you better take my catalog off of spotify well after the show i think even during the show i was looking at spotify and i was on Neil Young's page and all of his albums were still there. Actually, I listened to a lot of his records or a few of his records on Spotify on the somewhat reg. Later in the afternoon, I was talking with our friend John at APM about the story, too. And I took a quick quick. I took a quick, which is a quick peek. And he was still up there. And then suddenly there was a news alert that hit my phone yesterday around, I don't know, two o'clock in the afternoon that said it's done. Spotify is pulling is pulling at Neil Young's request all of his albums. There's still a few like janky compilations where a few songs can play. I'm sure it has to do with like rights issues, but none of Neil Young's like real catalog is on Spotify anymore. Like he followed through with it and good for him. It makes me want to go out. I have gotten you know that I'm part of me is still like living in the past. A big part of me. So I still like buying the occasional CD or even maybe the occasional cassette or vinyl. I have a couple of the Neil Young records that I grew up with, and I love them. But suddenly I was like, wow, I really did just, whenever I wanted to listen to Neil Young, I could just pull it up on my phone, and that's not an option anymore. And honestly, I think it's kind of cool. I actually want to go to a record store today and buy more Neil Young records. I know.

I mean I love Neil Young so much and uh and when I said yesterday that the comment had been pulled down or whatever because I had heard that too I think I think what had happened was the original conversation was between Neil Young and his record label and I think that the so there was a post about it somebody had posted this and I don't know if it was like I don't know I could be wrong but I don't know if Neil Young had had publicly posted something calling on Spotify to pull his music or if it had been a conversation between him and his label or his management saying, hey, if they're going to do it, going to leave rogan on let's take our stuff down i thought that he was publicly saying it because that was the whole point he wanted to shine a light on the misinformation campaign if you if

you maybe that was what it was i clearly haven't done enough research on it but i'm glad to hear

that it's yeah he's somebody else published an open letter that's i'm reading it here that's the lead he'll he had published an open letter saying spotify needed to either deal with vaccine misinformation on rogan's podcast or remove his music do you feel like this is we need to go to

the break and i'm i'm opening a two hour can of worms but becca and i were talking about this as we were walking around the other day uh and and i did we get i don't think we fully went to this place and when we were on the show the other day andrew but like how do you feel about that how do you feel about the the idea like what do you think the proper approach to spotify and joe rogan is for spotify for the public for whomever that's you know that's interesting i didn't realize we have one minute before we go i think that's like a famous larry king thing right it seems like a very npr thing too but he asked jim caviezel the actor from like the passion of the christ and whatever heaven is it real 10 seconds you know i don't i should probably think about that more

before i say something publicly about it because like obviously i think that what joe rogan is doing is is disgusting and very damaging, like very damaging. But also, I you know, here's the deal. I don't even utter the words free speech, because whether or not a private company gives you a platform for whatever your message is, that is not free speech. I mean, Joe Rogan will always have free speech, whether or not Spotify, a business gives him the platform, right? Free speech doesn't mean everybody's entitled to you know letting uh having a show on spotify if if i had a podcast that was just um just incredibly irresponsible in in calling for people to to pick up arms uh and start a race riot or something along those lines like and it presented a threat to the society who is fire in a crowded theater so to speak like they're you know spotify would take it down and they would be right to do that because you are you are creating an atmosphere that is putting people in danger. And you can make an argument that Joe Rogan is putting people in danger by doing this. And so I think it's totally within Spotify's right to do it. You know what? I mean, the thing that, and this is where, this is where I shouldn't probably take it into this direction as well, but you kind of get into, Luke, I forgot his name the other day. And I said, I'll never do that again. The person who does what? I'm sorry, all the people walked out of Netflix after which comedians? Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle.

Why am I blanking on Chappelle's name? Well, you know, because I told a story once about trying to remember Dave Chappelle's name for 40 minutes.

Oh, that's right. That happened to him. In my car.

Like, I was sitting in the car, and I was like, don't look it up, because that will just—don't give your brain an out on this, Burbs.

Why am I—oh, I'm so embarrassed. But anyway, you know, that's another—you know, Dave Chappelle has said all kinds of things in his career, And he's also said some anti-trans things, which are terrible. And, you know, it's it's complicated. And you have a bunch of people who say Netflix shouldn't, you know, platform him or whatever, however they term platform and platform and probably should de-platform him. Does that mean that platform can also be a verb? They are platforming him or giving him a platform?

Yes, I guess so.

But anyway, and I definitely understand all of that. But I also understand that, like, at what point does and again, if Netflix takes away, I'm just working this all out. I'm not landing on anything here, so I'll shut up in a second. But if Netflix does say to Chappelle, hey, listen, we just consider that more than inappropriate, borderline hate speech. It puts other people in a position where they feel less human. And it also spreads information where people could actually be in danger because you're empowering people who are anti-trans. Then then we're taking you down like that again. That's not a free speech issue. They have a right to do that. but then like who if you're in the position to make that decision and you want to look at the nuance of somebody's overall body of work and what is it and you start weighing pros and cons and do we have room for nuance in this society or not I understand why I understand why it's more difficult than just just saying boom you're done right it I guess that to me the essential question

is is it yelling fire in a crowded theater because that's the kind of speech that we've said you don't have the right to and again you're i guess that's not even the essential question because like spotify can do whatever they want to do from a business standpoint like they can just if enough people stop subscribing to spotify because of joe rogan then they'll just decide yeah to cancel to stop having joe rogan because it will if it's costing I'm sorry. them more if 20 million people unsubscribe from spotify on the same day as a protest of them playing joe rogan spotify will have to make the business decision if they want to keep that they want to keep him on or not and part of me thinks that's kind of the way to fix this um is to just let the marketplace decide which as we know the market has never let us down it always arrives at the exact perfect solution to things um and then there's the question also of kind of like i guess in this case spotify is just a private business so they like i said they get to decide whatever they want i was gonna say it sort of comes down to also who gets to decide like okay so dave chappelle he said things that were anti-trans and that seems obviously bad and like does that though then invalidate everything else he's done in his career like how what's what percentage of anti-trans conversation from dave chappelle equals the rest of his career and comedy have no value to us like is it one joke is it 40 jokes is it if it becomes 50 of his material i'm certainly not the person to make that decision as a straight cis male but you know it's i don't know it like you said it's very complicated and um and uh is not something we can fit into one minute although i thought you did an admirably um efficient job there andrew and i basically agree

with everything you were saying in the fact that it only took me one minute to remember dave chappelle's name or have you tell me dave chappelle's name that that's gonna live with me the rest of the day and um yeah just cut it out it's well i can't because it's all part of the conversation it's fine but yeah it's just and then we brought up josh okay we got to go to the break but we brought up um tosh.0 the other day and it's like in my in my estimation like that guy hasn't created enough material that i think is a powerful force for good in the country i just think he's a jackass so it's easy for like if i had the power to de-platform him i would do it in a second going back to you know him him making rape jokes and making people uncomfortable in his audience and and and doubling down on that and creating a national conversation about that what 10 years ago or whatever but like in my estimation like screw him like i don't give a shit about him I'd de-platform him in a second if I was platforming him. Whereas with Chappelle, I've heard social commentary from him that has made me look, maybe not made me look at race differently, but has made me maybe understand certain things differently. He has done things that I think are important. So now you start getting into, okay, well, who is going to be the arbiter here? Who's going to sit down? Who's going to draw the line down the piece of paper and write the pros and the cons? Because I also and I want to make this very clear here, you know, for our audience, because I think, you know, how I feel about this stuff, Luke, like I am not forgiving the things that he's saying with his anti trans stance and doubling and tripling and quadrupling down on it. I mean, it is, it is just so upsetting to me, but also I know that after George Floyd's murder, like the seven minutes that, that Dave Chappelle put out in the world, I stumbled, almost read his name again, that the seven minutes that he put out in the world was some of the most powerful social commentary I'd ever seen, you know, and it's just, it's tough.

Right. Yeah, it is. You know, I'll wrap this up with the, I think, powerful statement of it's really complicated.

What did you use that time should be complicated. There was that's how you there was a shit be complicated phase of TBTL.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That's a that's a real power out there. Yeah. Boy, well, you know what, Andrew, only time will tell. It's another equally powerful way to end a conversation about a very complicated topic. All right. You know, it's uncomplicated the appreciation that we feel for the daily donors. So we're going to do that. Plus, we'll try to wedge in a couple of top stories on the other side of this quick break here on TBTL. all right let's thank some donors of the day these are the generous folks making tbtl possible on this thursday uh folks like connie evans in stone mountain georgia Hello, Connie. Yeah, that sounds like a heck of a place. Stone Mountain, Georgia. We've been there.

That's where they have the laser show, the kind of Confederate heavy laser show that we don't have to get into now. Wow. Okay.

Is it on top of a stone mountain? I've always seen that name and I've always been kind of impressed.

I don't know about what's going on with the community there, but I know that this is right outside of Georgia. And so it's like Atlanta, you mean? I'm sorry. Yeah, it's inside Georgia, actually. It's next to Dave Chappelle.

No, it's just for the outside of an Atlanta is the inside of a Georgia. That might be the show title. Can you write that down? Anyway, they have a famous laser show. There's a confederate carving there, I see. And there's a famous laser show that kind of plays Dixie and Devil Went Down to George and all these things, but it kind of ends in the kind of, you know, kind of the South Will Rise Again kind of time.

I'm just looking at this. I'm looking at this, the actual Stone Mountain. I have to say it's an impressive geological thing. I mean, it's as advertised. When you hear Stone Mountain, Georgia, you think, is there a mountain of stone there? And the answer, Andrew, is yes. I'm looking at a picture of it.

I mean this with all due respect to Connie Evans, who's been a donor of the show for quite some time and a beloved donor and listener at that. But wouldn't it be more impressive if the mountain was made of something other than stone? I feel like there are a lot of stone mountains around. Are there a lot of cheese mountains?

I would say most mountains are probably made of stone. Exactly. Because anything else would dissolve over time. Like a cheese mountain

Mashed potato mountain Any kind of food SD card mountain

I want a mashed potato mountain Right now So bad What happened was I ate healthy last night Which means I'm famished today I can always tell The morning after I made good food decisions I can tell because I'm so So hungry right now I had Thai food last night Which is mostly this Thai rice soup That I really like from this place near my house And it's very satisfying When I'm eating it But it's not calorically that dense It's just pretty much like salty broth And vegetables And so the next morning when I wake up I am just jonesing I would take a stone mountain I would take a mashed potato mountain I would take a Cheese mountain you mentioned Definitely take a cheese mountain Anyway thanks Connie for your support We really appreciate it Aaron Hicks is in Renton, Washington. Thanks, Aaron, for making today's episode possible. Then we've got Adam Marks, who's out there in New York City. Thanks, Adam. Now, I thought New York was a state. It's both. And this is one of the things that, yeah, it's a little known fact. But there are, I think, two or three states that the name of the state is also the name of the city. That seems so confusing, Luke. It is confusing, Ron. Adam has it all written down at home somewhere in New York. He can tell you about it. Juliet McFadden is in Brighton, Massachusetts.

Juliet, her and her sister, long-time listeners and donors of TBTL.

Nice. Daniel Pitnell is in Pittsburgh, New York. Now, not the city, New York, Andrew, the state. This is obviously where it gets confusing.

Hey, where do you live? I live in New York State. What is the city? Pittsburgh. There's no confusion there. Right.

That's easy. I love it. Adam, if you want to talk to Eric Adams about a new, some kind of changing the name of your city to something that's less confusing for Andrew. Just dumb it down for me is all I'm saying. Jared Edwards is in Orange Vale, California. That makes me. Pulling back the veil, we're told. Pricking the pretensions and pulling back the veil, we're told, is orange. Luke. That's Jared Edwards. That was an incredibly layered and specific callback to something I said on the show a week or two ago.

I want to go. Have you ever been in a real, like, orange grove like you see in Chinatown?

No, I haven't, but based on the commercials, I want to be the person in the, like, Florida citrus growers commercials where they're always out in the orange fields, and the oranges are just so refreshing. You're a pretty regular orange juice consumer, aren't you?

Orange juice, we usually keep it in the fridge. I do like orange juice. Coincidentally, I did have some today. I know it's all a sugar bomb, so I try not to drink it too much. But I also just love oranges. Like last night, I had an orange before bed. I love citrus. I always keep oranges and grapefruits in the fridge.

Do you, around Christmas time, do you get into those little cuties and those other kind of setsumas and the like?

Yep, those are around usually throughout the winter. Sometimes I buy a pack of those, throw them in the drawer instead. Yep, I love those things. I like I was telling Genevieve yesterday I think she looked it up while we were talking about this yesterday and I think they're called sumo oranges in the store there in the reason they're called sumo oranges is because I know them as the oranges that kind of have kind of a looser peel and a bump on them yep and you can that bump reminds me of Abe Simpson's head well that's what apparently they're called sumo oranges because the head is kind of like It's like the top knot on a sumo wrestler's head, apparently. This is something that Genevieve looked up online. But anyway, I really like those because they're so easy to peel, and they tend to be very soft. I could go on about oranges all day.

You know what I'm really into right now is dried m- mango oh yeah like that is that is so delicious and like you gotta well for me anyway i try to avoid the ones that are then sugared additionally because they don't need any extra sugar they're very flavorful but you just get like a big old bag of this dried mango i've been i've been that's been my lunch most of this week and some almonds and i'm like i'm loving life if we get a listener from mango veil we'll really have something so i like dried pineapple by the way but i like it to

being a mix i want some nuts in there i want some of those what are those little sticks that we like those little rye sticks or not rye are they rye sticks we've talked about them extensively on the show before because i went through a whole you mean the things that are in gardettos um well those are good too but they're little um more like you go to whole foods and you can kind of build your own little snack mix thing and they're these little like is it rye sticks is that what i'm

thinking probably now i have to make a gardettos mountain right next to my yeah mashed potato amount anyway thanks to our donors of the day for making tbtl possible on this thursday we just would not be here without you so thank you hello and welcome to top story all right we're going to try to zip through these andrew but just because it's been perpetually on my list i want to tell you about what i've been watching on youtube lately that is a little bit weird but I find it very satisfying. I guess you could even say oddly satisfying. I've started watching a number of YouTube accounts of basically the people who maintain and also at times repair cow hooves. They go out to dairy farms and cattle lots and places where cows live. and for a cow that's healthy they just bring it in and they basically like trim the hoof down so that it's and balance it out in case it's been growing kind of in a funky way they just get it all nice and like because you know the obviously a cow's hoof is i'm gonna say keratin i don't really know that's that's what our fingernails are right if it's not keratin it's whatever the cow's version of that is but doesn't have any nerves in it it's like a big toenail so the first all that they put the cow in this like contraption that like lifts it up off the ground a little bit and then whatever foot they're working whatever hoof they're working on they have another little part of the contraption that kind of just gen pretty gently bends that leg up and kind of makes it so they can just work very easily on the hoof and i was surprised to see how unfazed the cows are now maybe they're only showing the videos of the cows that are chill but these cows don't see i would be like man this cow is like what the hell is going on but they're just such they're so docile that they're just kind of chilling but so if it's just doing maintenance on a hoof you know this hoof will be all like just covered in like dirt and grime and probably poop and whatever and they're just like shaving it down and then it's all clean and white and like they're shaving it with a really sharp knife it's almost like cutting like an a potato or something but to go from this is like crusty kind of gross hoof to this like beautiful clean trimmed up thing that's all symmetrical and like perfect like all ready for the cow to just go back out there and live its life and as long as its life goes uh is very satisfying but what i really like are the ones where the cow comes in with like an abscess or an injury to the hoof so there's something called the lame list which i'm on it that was for our seattle listeners there was an almost live sketch called the lame list really that was the kind of thing that i thought was so funny when i was a kid and i guess i don't know how well it holds up it's not inappropriate it's just like the humor was pretty basic but it would basically be rocker dudes like with long you know 90s grunge hair

and then the lame list would just be somebody i probably was the voice of pat cashman maybe reading things that were lame and then these rocker dudes just chanting lame and like head banging the lame list i remember just thinking nothing will ever be funnier than the lame list on almost live but the lame list that they use at these you know various farming operations uh is just if a cow is out there walking around but it won't put weight on one of its legs one of its hooves and so they'll bring this cow in and i mean it's first of all it's sad because the cow will have like a hoof injury that like an abscess or like a rock that got jammed in the hoof and then basically created an infection or something but you just feel so bad for this cow who's just out there standing around in the in the mud or whatever like it can't put weight on this foot and then they bring it in and they get the hoof kind of you know in the machine and it's cute because they're pretty nice to the cows again I don't know these cows who knows how long these cows are going to live but in this moment they're being nice to them and calling them mama and stuff and patting their heads and they'll go in and they'll like trim out the injured part of the hoof and it doesn't hurt them because it's like this is you know like fingernails but what it'll do is it'll open up where the injury was the abscess and like a bunch of stuff will come out and there'll be all this pressure relieved and then they will wash this injury out they'll cut all around it so that it's like all cleaned up and exposed but in a good way and you can just i can just imagine being the cow and you don't know why your foot is hurting so bad and you can't put any weight on it they bring you in this thing it's probably a little scary but then at some point you just feel this sense of release of this pressure and then like i said they clean it all out with a spray some like you know some kind of antibacterial in there and then they like put a like a pad like a you know some kind of and it's often treated with some sort of solution i think that's more antibacterial and they will just like gently wrap the hoof back up with like a kind of a the cow version of an ace bandage and then what they have to do sometimes is they glue like a rubber block onto the other side of the hoof so that the cow can stand on this hoof but more pressure will go on the rubber block than on the part that's healing so they can walk around normally more or less but they don't have to keep stepping on this thing that's healing and i will tell you andrew when they get done repairing disinfecting or or you know antibacteria ing and cleaning up and then lovingly wrapping this hoof all back up and then you see the cow kind of go walking off like they're fine again It fills me with such joy I can't even tell you

So that's what I have been jamming out to on YouTube lately I understand why it could seem very Why that comes off as very satisfying It sounds a little Sounds like it would Sounds like it's a little bit slightly on the gore I know it's not gore But for me on the gorier side of satisfying

Hmm Is that Meatloaf's third album? You know what? The gorier side of satisfying? Yes And I'm not into That's not the appeal for me Like what's really weird about when you look at something On YouTube and the algorithms Is it goes from oh I wanted to Watch someone you know Maintaining and fixing cow hooves And then immediately it goes to like It's suggesting a video like Puss shoots out of a cow hoof Injury it's like no that's not That's not what I'm here for I'm not here To see anything gory I'm here To see a cow that's hurt That then feels better because Somebody's taking care of it And then gets to go back On with its life Again However much longer Their life is scheduled for

Depending on where these Where these things are Right

But like So yes It can be on the gorier side Of satisfying But that's kind of Not the part that I'm really there for I'm there for this It's like a It's like a makeover show But instead of a house Getting remodeled Or a A guy getting queer eyed It's A cow Whose Little hoof is hurting And then their hoof is All better At least fixed And then they could just, I feel it's like so happy for them to know that that foot isn't hurting them anymore. I keep calling it a foot. It's like a hoof. But it's like, but yeah, it might be too gory for you. So it might not be the thing to broadcast onto your ceiling.

Right. People come over to your house. Unlike this thing that Schaefer sent me. Now, this isn't quite as visually stimulating, although I'm scrubbing along here. And it's listener Schaefer said, you're going to like this. It's inside of a dishwasher. ASMR. I haven't even hit play on this yet, but somebody put a little camera inside of a dishwasher. This is a half hour long, but it begins with you see somebody closing the door. And, again, we're inside. We're inside with the pots and pans, which actually look clean. I think this is all just done for effect, but they stacked it full of some plates, and a pan is in there. And then here it comes. the water just started coming out like a car wash and the arm at the top is spinning around and throwing water hey do you want to know um two fascinating things that i learned about dishwashers on spotless recently that's going to change i'll do this really really quick because i know you have something else you want to get to but this is going to change your lives i've heard back from so many people um that these two things will really uh improve your dishwasher experience if you're somebody with a dishwasher um the very first cycle of your dishwasher is not heated water it doesn't use the heated element in the dishwasher itself so it's just using whatever whatever water it's hooked up to your hot water line but it's not being heated the rest of the cycles are but not the first one so if you want to get the most out of your first pre-rinse cycle turn your kitchen sink on hot water until hot water is coming out of your sink you know how sometimes when you wake up in the morning or whatever you turn around the hot water pump you're priming there's no hot water you got to wait a few minutes well it's the same for the dishwasher and it's going to be like kind of pulling all that water right away so if nobody's used the hot water recently the first pre

pre-rinse cycle is going to be using cold water, but it's an important rinse cycle, the pre-rinse, and you should be using hot water. So turn on your kitchen sink for a while until the water's hot, then hit go on the dishwasher. Number two, you know how when you fill a dishwasher full of soap and then you close the little lid down? Can you picture that? It locks? Yes. That lid does not open during the pre-rinse cycle. That opens later on during the actual wash cycle, but if you want that pre-rinse cycle to be a little bit more effective if you're using powder just sprinkle a little powder into the like on the dishwasher door or whatever just so that you're giving that first pre-rinse cycle a little bit of soap to work with also if you look closely at that little um at that little now that's interesting you know when you're you have that little door that you click shut when you fill it with soap if you have a modern dishwasher you'll see that there's another like it's about the size of a tablespoon a little um a second divot in there yeah fill that thing up because you'll notice when you close the little door there are slats that's basically doing the same thing it's releasing soap during that first pre-rinse cycle that would otherwise be soapless i use the pellets now that makes it more difficult that's an argument probably using the

pellets yes yeah i guess it is um and i will say this the dishwasher that i have here at this apartment um it's annoying because it doesn't i i always set it on extra dry and nothing's dry in the dishwasher when it's done i think there must be something wrong with the heating element that's rough yeah um so that's a kind of a that's annoying but i will tell you it really does clean i also always have it on you know like pots and pans yeah like i'm always telling it like this is you're gonna have to really yeah you're gonna have to give it 110 percent dishwasher but i put in a um a pan that had dried nacho cheese on it from when i had made some nachos during the football game remember when i was betting on the wrong game yes right yes and i put this not this this uh pan that just had you know the remnants of some sort of baked on cheese around certain parts of it and i thought well this will be the real test and you didn't soak it in the sink first you didn't pre-rinse in your sink you just put it right in there yeah i don't think i soaked pre-soaked it that's maybe i did a little bit but when i pulled it out when i remember putting it in thinking if this thing gets this clean this is really saying something for this dishwasher and oh that's the asmr i was like wow you're really taking your time drinking that iced tea

sorry yeah i turned it down when i was talking because i found it too distracting but now that you're talking i figure you can handle it you're a professional look it up in the book yeah how

wrong were you um i uh but anyway it came out clean so i have to and wet but clean so that was

that's a huge test that's really encouraging yeah it's like in a commercial keep that dishwasher

put a ring on it i'll bring it from this apartment to wherever i happen to live next of course i grew up with when we finally got a dishwasher it was as you might imagine not the uh newest dishwasher technology it was the kind you had to hook up to the sink and it also barely worked and i just remember us all like you had to wash the dishes before you put them in the dishwasher when i was a kid and raising the question what is the point of this but now that i live in 2022 and i have these kind of newer appliances i'm just i go crazy with it i put pots and i really do put my pots and pans in there anything that's dishwasher safe is going in there but none of those things none of those things would ever get washed in the dishwasher when i was a kid you had seven kids yep first of all it didn't work for shit we had and there was so much at the end of every meal there were so many dishes and forks and things generated that it was a given that the pots and pans and all that stuff was going to have to get washed in the sink. Yes.

Did you have the kind, did you tell me, was yours one of those portable ones that you had to hook the hose up to?

Yeah, you had to wheel it across the kitchen floor, hook it up to the sink, the faucet there. But I will not lie to you, at age 45, all these years later, every time that I can just put like a casserole dish or a pot, it also is, this is the beauty of living alone. is I don't generate, because it's just me, I don't generate that much stuff a day. So like I can, because that was the other thing was a space issue when I was growing up. You couldn't, you know, a casserole dish was going to take up much needed space in the dishwasher. But what I can do if I make a meal is put almost every single thing that got dirty in the dishwasher and then go an entire day, do another meal and then just fill it and run it.

And I'm good to go. That becomes a problem for me. I really hijacked the show with this dishwasher stuff. I'm sorry, But to me, that's a problem. That's when I don't like dishwashers. I want to load. If I'm going to use a dishwasher, I want to load it up and run the cycle that day. Because if I'm just like, you know, drip, drip, drip a spoon here, a spatula there, a pan there. The next day when I go to cook, I need my favorite pan and my favorite spatula.

Yeah, that can be a problem. And I have found myself fishing something out of the dishwasher to wash it, to use it. But generally for me, it's that I don't like running the dishwasher unless it's full. And I can't fill the dishwasher up in one day. Yeah. So I kind of have to choose what's more convenient. um but uh but yeah just the idea that i can that this dishwasher will wash most things does make me feel like uh like a king um hey on the subject of uh things that i'm watching i just wanted to say really quickly i wanted to give a a big thumbs up to a show called someone somewhere which is this new bridget everett tv show you and i were talking about this a little bit off air andrew i think bridget everett is the cabaret performer uh she's been on um she was on amy schumer's show a lot just kind of um not quite a stand-up comedian but uh an amazing singer and kind of a nightclub performer i guess michael shulman actually wrote a profile of her in the new yorker he was the person who just wrote the uh jeremy strong profile oh yeah so he's like i have to say now when michael shulman writes a profile i'm like well i'm gonna definitely check that out to see if i can get ahead of the curve on some some kind of uh you know buzzy situation But anyway, the show is set in Manhattan, Kansas, and it's just kind of the story of this woman who's in her early 40s who just kind of feels like her life has stalled out. She's recently lost her sister who was she was really close to, I think, to cancer. And she's just trying to figure out where she fits into her family and this town and life in general. And she also is kind of was a she was a really great singer in the high school show choir. but that was 20 years ago and she's kind of like doesn't want to she sort of has mixed feelings about about singing and performing but she ends up kind of striking up this friendship with somebody that she works with she works at a her character works at a place that basically grades standardized tests but the essay portion of standardized tests so like the part that a robot can't do um and so she's her job is to sit there in this very stark neon lit room with a bunch of other people all day and basically grade essays just bleak it's pretty bleak um and it this is um uh the i think the first two episodes are directed by jay duplass and it's produced by the duplass brothers and it is like the thing about bridget everett is her the the comedy stuff that she does the singing the cabaret stuff has never really been like a hundred percent for me it's kind of premised on this like I'm gonna drink a bunch of white wine I'm gonna sing songs that are kind of suggestive about my body I'm gonna go out in the audience and I'm going to like sit on people's laps and I'm gonna be very bawdy it's to me that kind of the description of that show it's like I don't know if that's the thing I'm gonna run right out to see if I'm in New York

city but this show couldn't be more different than that like it's just so underplayed everything is so understated and the dialogue is so just feels so true like it reminds me a little bit of like um remember the movie that was it called omaha what was the movie that will forte was in he was in it it's an Alexander Payne film and it's Bruce Dern and Will Forte and Will Forte has to drive Bruce Dern somewhere I think Bruce Dern is like his kind of gruff estranged father

is it just called Nebraska

Nebraska thank you

I haven't seen it actually you've talked about this a lot it seems like I mean it's like the ultimate movie that sounds like something I would like that I haven't seen there's a Ben Stiller one in that category as well that there's two movies that every time it comes up it's like how have i not seen this well put this on the list of things that

you would like that you'll never see andrew but somebody somewhere it's just it's really real now the thing is they're releasing it like week by week so i got around to watching it on on week two so i watched week one last night i watched episode one i watched episode two i was like all right here we go episode three what you're gonna make me wait like it's the 90s and i can't decide actually right now if I let I think I like it actually I think I like that I couldn't watch all nine episodes last night because now I'm really looking forward to the third episode coming

yeah I don't know the last thing that I got really into that followed that model or at least followed that model while I was watching it because I am often like you know a day late on these things so I'll and also because I like binging I know that if it's a show that's being released episode by episode. I'll hold back until the whole thing is available and then I'll binge it. I've done that in the past, but I will say that I don't know that my relationship with WandaVision revision would have been as strong if it wasn't the type of thing where I had to wait every week and in that week I spent so much time talking with Kiki Lolo and other nerds about like and you know she would get me she would let me know about all the stuff that I missed in the episode I would watch recaps that explain things that you missed and if you're not as familiar with the Marvel universe like me and it was like it was the waiting that really made part of my experience

of watching that show so powerful yeah I think that um I think that I think I'm I'm going to benefit from the fact that there's a week in between these so I can like I'm going to try to get Becca to watch it then we can talk about it like it's been a long time since I have because when I've by the time I got to WandaVision it was all out like all released and so I watched that in like a weekend but I'm I just remember like you know like the days of the Sopranos and just all week looking waiting all week for Sunday night Andrew someone should write a song like that I like it can I just

say one other thing that I sort of has been in my head lately I think because Genevieve is watching an HBO show now that is being released bit by bit I think it might be righteous gemstones I haven't started the second season of this yet but I know people are like waiting for the next episode to come out on that and it is funny that you and I of a certain generation we think of HBO as their catch phrase which was huge and i believe the early 2000s it's not tv it's hbo but now hbo because they're the ones who are mostly sticking to this and i i know that i know that wandavision wasn't hbo but but because they are sticking to kind of a more old school release schedule i remember reading that like um episodes of the first season of righteous gemstones were still being written while it was like an old school tv model they were shooting and still writing out ahead of them right That's how they ended up kind of stumbling on that that breakout song misbehaving like they scribble that in between things while they were shooting other things. And I just find that so interesting that like we always think it's not TV. It's HBO. But really, HBO is the closest thing to TV now. Right.

I want to just clarify something. The show is called Somebody Somewhere. What have you been saying? I think I was saying someone somewhere. Oh, somebody. And I ran into this problem last night because I was trying to find this on my television, and I was calling it the wrong thing, and I was telling the remote, and it was bringing me to this, like, 2019 movie that has the name Someone Somewhere. The Bridget Everett film is called Somebody Somewhere, a Bridget Everett TV show. And I will just say one other quick thing. I mean, the performance is every – Andrew, I really – I know that whenever I say, like, you should watch something, it's a recipe for you not watching it because you don't love that pressure.

That is not – you always say that, but that's – I feel like that's –

untrue okay i hope it's untrue because i really hope you will watch this because i want to be able to talk about it with you but i think and also i'm over hyping this now which can only end in tears but i think the acting in this show is so incredible in particular uh the person who plays her sort of co-worker who uh befriends her and the reason this co-worker is so intrigued by her is because they were in show choir together in high school and bridget everett's character Has no memory of this guy Who was in her choir And to him it's a big deal To be friends with her Because she was sort of the star Of their high school show choir And so he is very geeked up About being friends with her He even actually says to her At one point I can't believe That we're just like Friend friends now And she sort of can't Wrap her mind around this Because she feels like A total loser in life Like she can't believe That anyone would be like Would be not able to believe They were friends with her But the actor who plays This other character his he's so good like i don't it's one of the it really feels like one of the better acting performances i've seen in a long long time i'm gonna say this from memory it's probably wrong i think his name is matthew hiller i think is possibly the actor i'm thinking of and i had never seen him in anything else but he uh and again it's probably not even his real name so i'll figure out his real name and tell you tomorrow but is he almost like does he almost

play a christine style character on baskets or i put that the wrong way yeah the the the christine character on baskets almost like a counter counterpart jeff hiller jeff hiller um

yes there is a there you know what you're actually not wrong like they're the physicality is very different obviously but there is what it seems that at least it's two episodes in this his name is Joel on the show and his name is Jeff Hiller in real life his character is first of all a catalyst for change in Bridget Everett's life because he's kind of plugged into this whole network of people in Manhattan Kansas where the show is set who are queer and uh not just not you know kind of atypical for Manhattan Kansas and and he kind of introduces her into this world of a bunch of people who maybe don't quite fit into the typical Manhattan Kansas scene but really

really get a lot of support from each other and he's sort of like this very like he just he's unfailingly positive uh and and he's exactly who she needs in her life because she's dealing with a lot with the loss of her sister and the feeling that her life has stalled out um but there is in the way that christine baskets was just kind of yeah just generally sort of positive and happy with life and walking through costco trying the samples and just absolutely delighted by the samples in costco like almost a childlike a childlike enthusiasm for things that's this character joel from somebody somewhere kind of has a childlike enthusiasm that's very very winning cool so all right oh and also aziz ansari has a new stand-up special that i thought i watched it last night it was good it's also interesting because it's 30 minutes long doesn't that seem short for us is that how long stand-up specials are now it's interesting i think that back in the

day some people would release either a 30 or an hour because i think that like back i'm talking about back in the day like sort of like the 90s or whatever hbo would release a a special i feel like it could have either been 30 or 60 but um it does seem like in this day and age we're used to

more i think maybe when you go see a stand-up special the assumption is it'll be an hour like when you go see someone headline that they're going to do an hour. So I guess I just, in my mind, decided that that was also what the length of these specials were. But this Aziz thing, he shows up at the Comedy Cellar in New York unannounced. Oh, yeah. Which is interesting. And he's the last comic of the night. So I remember when he's walking on stage, I thought, he's going to do another hour here? Like, these people have already been there for two hours. I'm worried for the audience. Of course, they were very excited it was Aziz Ansari. And he only ended up doing a half hour. But it's interesting to me because a lot of it is not jokey. A lot of it is pretty like kind of real talk about sort of man's inhumanity to man. He's talking at one point about how, you know, we have the the resources that most of us have the money, the access to food and shelter that we have. And then how many people don't have access to that and what stands between us, the ones who have it and the people who don't have it. how it really comes down to us just not really wanting to share like there's a like and he's sitting the whole time which i haven't seen in a while he's just sitting on a stool talking to the crowd it's almost i don't know it was just very it was very it was not like the aziz and sorry that i've seen in other um in other like stand-up times where he's in a huge theater there's a thousand people he comes out he's really like kinetic he's like being really active he's prowling the stage it's like this was the total opposite of that and i found it very engaging actually

um i'm scrolling through other hbo specials to stand like stand-up specials to see it does seem like most of them um most of them are about an hour long so i think your instinct was right on that i was just trying to like kind of kind of suss that out um but uh yeah that's interesting because now this would be his second special since he kind of had the the spotlight on him after that article about the the bad sexual experience which was like i don't even i don't remember the details of it and also i remember reading into it at the time but still being kind of confused and um everything and i remember his initial special that he did after all of that um it was panned pretty heavily but i think it was also panned pretty heavily by people who had a very strong opinion on that on that on those events that happened um that i cannot sum up here I can, but I mean, I don't know if we need to. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's necessary. And I didn't watch that one afterwards only because, I don't know, lack of interest, I guess. But it is interesting because it sounds like what he was doing with this sitting on the stool and just sort of talking, like, that's the kind of shit that I really like. Like, yeah, you're going to laugh at times, but it's also, again, almost like a, more like social commentary or a, what's the word I'm looking for? we always talk about like a oh gosh Spalding Gray would be a oh kind of a monologue more of a monologue than just a stand-up you know which I think that shit that's what it felt like to me

and I mean you know I loved Aziz Ansari when he was doing Human Giant that kind of early sketch show that he was doing with Rob Hubel and Paul Scheer and and then you know I liked his character on Parks and Rec and stuff like that. But then I guess I just – his stand-up never totally hit for me because, again, a lot of it was just kind of about, like, physical exuberance, which doesn't usually translate to funniness for me.

You mean him playing the really big character and then doing the Randy.

Right, exactly. Like, Randy, all that kind of stuff. Although I did name my Roomba in honor of him, so I guess there's that. No, but, like, it just – I thought Aziz Ansari was very, very funny, and then I would watch his stand-up specials And just like I said, it didn't.

totally connect for me and then this was one of those things where literally on tiktok i saw an excerpt from this where the thing where he's talking about sort of basically why is it that we're not helping he says he says something like you know right now outside of this theater there's a guy standing there with a cup asking you to give him a dollar so he can get some food and we're not giving him that dollar and like why are we not doing that like it's like it and it's that kind of moment where it's like we realize everyone in that room everyone watching it we're all kind of implicated in this you know and um i saw that clip and i thought well that's pretty heavy so then last night when i realized i was out of uh somebody somewheres then i went over to netflix and they were playing the i will say that auto loading that auto preview on netflix is very effective right you stop on something and it just starts playing the trailer you have no choice but to see a preview of it that isn't extremely that might be the biggest technological advance in television in a long time because sure enough it just paused on that and then he's doing you know that bit and i was like all right we'll see how this goes and i ended up finding it to be really thought-provoking and interesting so and not overly like randy it was just it was much more it's like not only is bridget everett really toned down in somebody somewhere but aziz ansari

appears to be toned down in his new stand-up comedy special why is it that i can think of spalding gray's name at the drop of a hat but i can't think of dave chapelle what the hell is

wrong with my spalding gray's was a much more famous right there's a right way to rock in a wrong way to roll you can't just listen to your soul just remember that life is number one you can be having so much fun just remember that life is much fun You can be number one

I was trying to think of Sesame Sticks before.

Sesame Sticks. Oh, yes. Sesame Sticks.

What was I calling them? Rye Sticks. I don't know why I was saying that, but hey, we got there. Hey, Christine. You're Scottish 10 here, Christine. I'll be turning 60, and I'm surprisingly excited about this. Growing old, disgracefully, has always been an ambition of mine, and it looks like I'm on track. My 11 has promised that I don't have to start acting like a grown-up just yet, so that's a relief. This is from Christine in New Malden, southwest London. Hey, spoiler alert, we have more than one European blurs today, Luke.

Does that mean, Andrew, that we should go try to do TBTL in the U.K.? Yeah. If we have, I mean, if we have, like, at least, if we have two listeners in the U.K., do you think we could get them to all converge? You know what I just realized?

In some central location? This other person is not used to be in the U.K. and is now on a different continent. But I'll tell you what.

Can we get them to move back to the U.K.?

TBTL live from Bean Baxter's apartment? Yes, sirree.

That sounds amazing. I mean, really, we haven't – we've done the show in Australia, not really for anyone, just for ourselves. And in Alec. We've done the show all over the U.S. And a guy in a very dirty Dayglo Orange shirt who was in charge of running the crocodiles, but I didn't feel good about that. But we've never done the show in Europe. I wonder if we should try to do it. We did a TV tell European tour when that was safe and permissible.

I like it. I'm already trying to think of good names for it, but I guess we have some time on that. But I liked it. Yeah. The Tiny Bean concert? Nope. Actually, let's not do that. But anyway, more to the point. Christine, come in your way. Happy Blur's Day. That's going to be your belated Blur's Day present. Happy Blur's Day, Christine.

Amy says, time to wish another very happy Blur's Day to my smart, funny, sexy husband, Chad. I'm so glad we got to make the pilgrimage this year from Minneapolis to Seattle's best sports bar, Teddies. You look very dashing in your T-shirt from Teddy's. Maybe this year we will get you officially chosen as the copyright trademark patent lawyer for the boys. So Amy is saying that Chad looks very handsome in his Teddy's T-shirt, which I assume is adorned with the thing my dad made, right?

Yes, with the image that your dad turned into a sign. Yeah, I actually have a Teddy's hoodie now that Genevieve got me for my birthday. It's remarkably comfortable. It's like it's just so soft inside that thing.

Now, did you happen to see Chad and Amy when they were visiting Teddy? I didn't.

We tried to work it out, but I'm trying to think if I was down in Portland. There was something that made it impossible for me to hook up with them, but we were in touch about it. Yeah. And I've seen photos.

Well, happy blurs, Chad.

We hope to see you soon And enjoy your Enjoy being sexy Yeah By Amy's description

Happy Blurs Day Sexy Chad

And also Amy's family show That my nieces listen to So keep it Let's try to keep it clean Sexy Chad That's your new name Your husband's new name is Sexy Chad Sexy

Linder says Our old pal Linder says I'd like you co-bros To wish a very happy Blurs Day To my friend-o Elizabeth I think this is our friend Elizabeth Who is in upstate New York if I have that right. A bet? I think so, yeah. I hope I'm not confusing my bets here. I'm making a bet that this is a bet. Linder says, I once spotted her across a crowded TB telethon in Austin, Texas. She had tank girl tattoos, funky face jewelry, and was south of Queso. I knew I would have to befriend her. Elizabeth, I hope you have an excellent Blur's Day dummy from Linder and the fart bags. Whoa. I believe the fart bags are her dogs.

Oh, gotcha. Marshall and Mel in San Francisco say happy 30th birthday to our favorite French best-selling author, Manu, in San Francisco. We can't wait to celebrate with you and your shaky legs in Joshua Tree again soon. We love you. There is a lot to unpack from that message, Andrew.

Do you think Shaky Legs, is that like a dancing reference? Because I love that.

Maybe. I wonder, is Manu doing some kind of an ultra marathon down there? They do that a lot in the Joshua Tree area. So maybe Manu is finishing a big long run or something. I'm not, yeah. Best-selling, French best-selling author. What did Manu write? And where can we read it?

I see. The Shaky Legs has nothing to do with dancing is what you're saying.

I'm guessing. I don't know. Maybe that's the dance that Manu likes to do, is the shaky leg.

Well, what are you doing if you go shake a leg? Are you dancing?

I think of shaking a leg as dancing, yes. Yeah, so that might be it. So I guess you're right. I mean, your theory probably has more merit than mine does.

Manu might be holding something really, really heavy, and the legs are just getting, like, shaky. Yeah. Well, anyway, happy Blur's Day, Manu. Chris in Auckland, New Zealand. And by the way, Chris put in the original note, formerly of London, which is why I got confused before. I see, got it. Happy belated actual Blur's Day to my newest five, my daughter Orla Vale. Herbert, last name. Just born in December. I can't wait to time bandit the show with you during middle-of-the-night feeds and nappy changes. Yep, they're not called diapers here in New Zealand. with lots of love from your dad, the 10, your mom, the 11, and your big brother, Arlo. What do you think of that? Arlo and Orla.

Love it. That's cute.

I like that a lot.

You know, sometimes people do the name thing where all the kids have the same letter to start their name. This is a sort of different version of that where there's a sort of an echo and a similarity, but it's different enough. I think that's very, very cool. Arlo and Orla.

Orla, welcome to planet Earth. Absolutely. Sorry. We don't. Luke and I are not the best representatives of planet Earth, but we're what you got for now. All right. Happy Blur's Day, everybody.

All right. What do we.

I have a weird idea. What's going on? To go out with music wise. Yeah. Sorry. I was muting my microphone. Coughing a little bit there. It was a long show today. Yeah. Tough on the old pipes. I'm fine. When we were looking for that drop.

We were talking before the show, you and I.

We probably talked for like an hour before the show

So that added an hour to this hour and a half Program so we're two and a half hours Into doing the program but only One and a half hours into the recorded Portion but we were also just saying You know our voices are just like Getting older we're just Old men and our like I When I started talking this morning I was like why is My voice so froggy like I didn't do it I went to bed at 10 last night I didn't have a drop Of alcohol I was like very calm last night and i woke up this morning and i sounded like i'd been like chain smoking darts and out pounding james it's like is that just what it is to be 45 and wake up and start talking

to somebody it is still driving me bananas that i cannot find whatever that drop was of the guy saying i'd never lower my eyes to another mortal but while i was looking for that i i think the

man wasn't it that there was a bear that had tried to attack him i think is this the bear is this okay let me look for bear are you looking for bear now i think what it was was a bear came to him and he like basically stared the bear down and i believe what he said to the news oh it was a car

Carl's World?

A bear who had no idea what world it just stepped into. Carl's World. Is it Carl? Is that our guy?

I have two on Carl here. I feel like this is, I feel like it's a similar vibe, but a different story. I could be wrong. Here are my bear punch Carl drops.

This guy's a jerk, but he ain't been back since he got smacked by Carl. And here's the other one. The man or beast that I run from ain't been born, and his mama's already dead.

Those are great drops, but there's another one where a guy definitely says... You're so right, though. Those are kindred spirits. Yes.

This other guy also had a standoff. I've never lowered my eyes before any mere mortal. Yes. All of my sins are between me and my Lord and Savior. That's right. Something like that.

And I've looked up all of those words. I've looked up mortal. I thought he was, like, fighting, or, like, I cannot find it. Yet I know at one point I had it driving me up a wall. But what I did stumble on is something called Hungry Eyes Weird Edit. Would you like to hear Hungry Eyes?

Is this Patrick Swayze's song Hungry Eyes? Which always, for some reason, gave me a modeling feeling.

Wait, that's Patrick Swayze?

No, she's like the wind. Sorry. Is Hungry Eyes Eric Carman? Eric Carman, yeah.

Hungry Eyes. But I don't know why it's called Weird Edit. Am I saying Weird Edit? There's probably just a glitch in it. I don't know.

Anyway, you want to go out with it or does it give you a bad feeling? Let's do it. No, I'm good with it. I think she's like the wind is what gives me a bad feeling. The actual Patrick Swayze song. All right, thanks for listening, everyone. We are going to be back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio for you. Until then, have a great Thursday. Stay safe. And please remember, no mountain too tall. Good luck to all. Did you hear my stomach growl? It was louder than my voice. Hungry stomach. Hungry stomach.

I want to show you what love's all about Darling tonight Now I've got you in my sight With these hungry eyes

One look at you and I can't disguise I've got all my eyes I feel the magic between you and I

You all right, Miss Taylor?

A little.

Best thing in the world to the inside of a man or a woman is the outside of a horse.

Power out.