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Watch the cupids fly above, two hearts so sweet in love. If the arrow strikes upon, then there shall fly a turtle dove. That's a poem by Dr. Dan Drinkle. Today's show is about healthy relationships. Did you ever have a soul partner? Did you ever have a love? Did you ever lose one or wondered how to keep it alive? When it got old and brown Your body's lonesome It's gonna get sick probably Well that's enough of this drivel driver Let's find out what we want to know about Let's check it out Let's check it out Keep music Keep music TBTL

I've never felt this way about anybody before Not even Bobby Sherman Who I completely and totally adored But now I realize that that was just puppy love and that this is the real thing.

Dude, the craziest thing happened to me this morning. I got in my car, turned it on, had the radio on the alt station, and the song playing was freaking rabbit jangle. I shit you not. Blew my shit in mind. All I know is this violates every canon of respectable broadcasting.

If I told you once, I've told you a thousand times, I love you.

I like to hear what my man has to say. Just get in there with some sexual jibber-jabber. It will be welcomed.

Alright, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Monday edition of TBTL, a show that just might be too beautiful to live.

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My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host.

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Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, on February 14th.

Happy Valentine's!

That's right. It's Valentine's Day.

Love is hiding who you really are at all times, even when you're sleeping. Love is wearing makeup to bed and going downstairs to the Burger King to poop.

It's the day that we celebrate love, and we love all of you, the tens of listeners. And we love that you're with us here on episode 3619 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. Because it's going to be a good show. Much to talk about from the Super Bowl yesterday, including which of the ads worked and kind of didn't work.

Who are the ad wizards who came up with this one?

And also the halftime show, which was the most Southern California, most hip hop of Super Bowl halftime shows ever. Never let me slip, because if I slip, then I'm slipping. Of course, it immediately touched off completely BS culture war. and had a lot of people my age dancing at their Super Bowl parties and then realizing, oh, we're old. There's a whole TikTok trend of kids, of younger people, let's just say people in their early 20s, filming their parents dancing to the Super Bowl halftime show because it was Snoop Dogg and Dre and Eminem and Mary J. Blige and 50 Cent, and Kendrick Lamar, But 50 Cent started his part of the show in the most uncomfortable physical position you could imagine. So anyway, we'll talk about all that, plus some emails and V-mails. And we've got this guy, the longest-running Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. As he always says, I'm a podcaster, and I care who knows it, baby. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. I know we've had this conversation before, but there's a baby tacked on the end of that. I know. I forgot about that until the end. I'm a podcaster, and I care who knows it. Baby.

It's like, what's the backstory on that? Did our friend Lynn do that?

I think so. I think so. Yeah, and I swear that I'm having that deja vu thing where I feel like— All over again. Yeah, this has come up before. We've already talked about this. Lynn has explained it. The snake shall continue to eat its tail. Oh, speaking of, just as a little reminder that people sometimes do actually listen to this show, did you get the email from Todd and the other guy at GeekWire this morning?

I just saw that as I was coming back from a TV shoot I was on this morning, and I just felt terrible.

I am so sorry. People listen to this shit.

I'm sorry to the other guy So I think the reason I remember Todd Bishop So specifically was because We used to have him on When he was writing at the Seattle Times, right? Yes We used to have him on Ross and Burbank And things like that, like pre-GeekWire

And I also used to read his stuff, and so I think that name really stuck in my mind, but I know that it's not just Todd, and I'm sure I've met and talked to the other GeekWire folks at times.

It's John Cook. It's John Cook and Todd Bishop are the co-founders of GeekWire. Sorry, John. I'm like you. I interacted with Todd more, and I think Genevieve might have been friends with Todd way back. And so anyway, yeah, so on the show, you and I are just talking. We're talking about that Nissan public radio Mazda. I keep calling it Nissan. Jeez, Louise. I did that like four times this weekend with friends. I kept referring to it as the Nissan story. But anyway, so you and I are talking about that here on TBTL. And we mentioned that GeekWire, if they didn't break the story, they certainly had one of the early definitive articles about it. And I just quickly said, oh, yeah, Todd and the other guy. And we just kept moving because we forget sometimes that this is a public platform and we shouldn't refer to our friends and colleagues as Todd and the other guy. Got an email today from Todd saying it usually goes the other way. It's usually John and the other guy. So he's like, I played this for my family. I sent it to John.

I need to respond. Todd and the other guy does sound like a Florida morning radio show. like you know on like tallahassee's uh number one hits of today and yesterday and todd and the

other guy in the mornings i would you know what i would give that a go todd and the other guy i

really would a little self-deprecation the thing about geek wire though that really strikes me is how it went there was a time where i feel like geek wire and tbtl were sort of um similar operations both sort of plucky uh startups with maybe one or two employees and uh and you know putting out a podcast and out there you know trying to get some attention for the product etc and then at some point key choir just took off like a rocket ship i'm on their website it's like it's like 30 people work for it now in one capacity or another yeah it's a network they do i know that they they have like a sort of like a big festival of ideas every year that's well attended it's like it's a thing and tbtl is exactly where we were five years ago uh so it forges me to confront what a bad business person i am yeah that you know well don't forget

we are you know we have our own video series called um hey dummies so you know yes we do Well, we're a multi-platform network. Splatnet.platform. We got stuff going on.

Yeah, we do. Anyway, sorry, John, to have a temporary memory loss around being the co-founder of GeekWire. But I've heard – I don't know if this is actually happening or just being proposed, but I thought it was a genius idea. I think KUOW is talking about producing bumper stickers for the people who have Mazdas.

Yes, I saw that. I think I saw Radke tweeting about that maybe. Good idea. Yes. It's a little bit like the Minnesota— Did you see what they were supposedly going to say, though? Well, I think the tweet I saw was them asking for input and suggestions from listeners to help them put together an idea for a bumper sticker. But they also did throw one idea out there that was something like, I'm listening to KUOW because I have to, or something along those lines.

I like that. No, let's see. One of the proposed ones was 94.9 FM Seattle. I can't stop listening, and I've tried.

Yes, that's what I was thinking of. Yes, that's great.

That's pretty genius. I'm glad that they're running with it.

Well, you know what it reminds me of is the MPR squirrel, right? No, raccoon. Oh yeah The MPR raccoon You have to strike on these things while the iron is hot

You've got to get some merch going while it's still in the zeitgeist Exactly I still feel when we first went back to Minnesota post MPR raccoon Which for people that didn't catch that story when it happened There was this raccoon that was climbing up the side of the building I think I misidentified it early on as being actually the MPR building Minnesota Public Radio But it wasn't And it was a building that was adjacent to where our colleagues back there work. And this raccoon was trying to go up the side of this building and kept kind of encountering various obstacles and was like hanging out on a window, like a ledge, a windowsill. And they were trying to help get it down or something. Eventually, it managed to, like, defying everything I think I understand about physics, it scampered up the side of the building. Like, it just had enough claw and the building had enough texture that it basically ran up the top of the building, got on the roof. And I think then they got it in a box and got it out of there. But as I tend to do with these sorts of stories, there was about two days where I was just, all I lived for was MPR raccoon. I was so, because there was these pictures of it, like. hanging out in the windowsills, and it was so, so cute and lost-looking, and I would have done anything. I would have sold my house and given the proceeds to save MPR Raccoon. Instead, I just decided to give it away in a divorce, but that's another thing that I get caught up in.

It was in honor of the raccoon and in protest of Joe Rogan having a podcast on Spotify.

That's exactly what it was. But anyway, that was what MPR Raccoon was, but you're right. They also very quickly, I think Minnesota Public Radio had some kind of merch going along with that, which which was seizing on the moment. I if I sound amped, it's because I've been up for a long time today and I've already consumed a lot of coffee. So I apologize. I this one of the rare things where I'm actually shooting something for CBS here in Portland and we needed to shoot before TBTL because I'm interviewing. i was interviewing a guy named douglas walk who wrote a book called all of the marvels and basically what he did was he read every single marvel comic that's ever been made which is about a half a million pages of comic he was doing it 10 hours a day for like four or five years um and what i didn't realize was that the marvel universe is all one continuing storyline if that makes any sense like if spider-man does something uh if spider-man shows up in like a hulk comic and he does something that's then part of canon and it may be referred back to at some point in the future it can affect what happens it's the whole thing is all one big huge story that is all interrelated in certain ways and the writers of each of these various like thousands of different parts of Marvel are generally cross-referencing and trying to kind of, again, it's supposed to be, they have to do some tricky stuff where they like kind of sometimes time travel or they, you know, there's some workarounds when some of the plots don't quite line up, but the fact that it's all one continuing evolving plot was news to me and it's kind of wild.

Yeah, that's not news to me, but I mean, listen, I don't have any kind of comic book cred at all, but just from watching the movies and having it be such a cultural phenomenon um it is that is to me the most interesting part of it whenever i'm reading about the marvel universe it makes me want to be more into the marvel universe if that makes sense like i will read you know impassioned um you know articles and blog posts i remember even following this one guy i can't remember the name of his blog when i was in la and and starting to kind of realize this stuff as as the marvel movies were starting to like kind of climax to get to the get to the big ultimate conclusion which we did eventually see the end game i remember people talking about ultron and end game and they weren't even in the movies yet and and starting to realize how all this stuff fits together and just seeing and i've said this a million times on the show just seeing other people delight in this world and geek out on it know so much about it um and like again i i can't say that i know much about it but i didn't know what you just said and like yeah what they have to do and this is where you kind of get into like i think geek wars which is my new multi that's that's john and the other guy yes exactly oh really are you on the geek on the geek wars platform i'm on the geek wars platform and i'm going to uh be a challenging geek wire with my geek wars anyway um yeah like and then they'll do these big like they'll have to like you say they'll have to do some sort of huge time travel thing uh in order to you know make to kind of rectify some of these wrinkles in time and then that's when people start arguing about various things and again like i will read about this stuff and even get done i'll get done watching a movie and i'll think god i just i would love to get absorbed in this comic book universe because i do love i love a well-crafted comic book i truly do but it's just one of those things that for whatever reason i feel like i can appreciate it on a kind of a surface level but i just never in my entire life have gotten that deep on comic books i don't know why yeah i really enjoy them

So we were filming at this great comic book store here in Portland called Books with Pictures, and I'm just looking around, and almost everything that I saw was appealing to me. I was like, oh, I could just sit down with that for an hour, and the art is amazing. The storytelling is really inventive, and I don't think of myself as a comic person, but then I think, well, I read Archie like crazy when I was a kid. I don't know if that's the highest. It's not part of the Marvel universe, but I loved Archie's. Um, give me a good Archie double digest, man. I was like happy as a clam. Uh, I read grew the wanderer because it was the same guy that drew things in mad magazine. So it titillated me, even though the content was not itself titillating, it was mad magazine adjacent. So I was like, this is somehow exciting to nine year old Luke Burbank. But yeah, it's, it's, it's something that I really actually kind of want to try to.

I don't know dip my toe in a little bit because it also the cultural stuff around it which of course I also didn't really realize until I read this book is so fascinating because like the first edition of Captain America I think is Captain America punching Hitler and this was like I'm going to say two years before we actually went to war with Germany that wasn't Superman I thought maybe it's Superman

Maybe it's Superman I thought it was Superman Well

Actually I don't know I could be wrong Because Superman's not part of Marvel

No it's DC So I guess I think I just remembered it wrong I always thought there was a famous Superman cover Where he's punching him But I probably just forgot it

Now I'm trying to Google this Punches Hitler I love to type Hitler into my search file

That's why we have

To see what comes up Yeah exactly I think it was Captain America You're probably right Sorry I didn't mean to get you off track But the idea, though, that – and this is before – we haven't gone to war with Germany yet, so it would be akin to a cartoon where we're fighting – I'm trying to think of who the last people we went to war with. And, of course, I now tend to – I generally take a dim view of most of the U.S. military intervention. It feels like the one against Hitler was probably a good call. You're going to go on that, man? I want to say that's like the last war we've gotten involved in that I think you could really make a decent moral argument for. But just interesting that these things have been kind of as political as they've been and also as predictive as they've been around things. There was another one I forget. There's so many of these comics, and they all kind of blend together in my mind. But there was a particular one where the bad guy was clearly Richard Nixon. they unmask the leader of this shadowy cabal and it's nixon and this was like three months before watergate or something so it's like there's like there's just been a lot of stuff in the culture uh or a lot of times where they've kind of nailed it on on like you know predicting what was going to happen or reflecting interesting times i don't know just i i enjoyed this book more than i was expecting considering i'm not a comic person per se but um anyway do you mind i mean i'm sure it's

a big part of the story so i will accept the answer if you feel like not answering it here but how does one uh live when one spends 10 hours a day day in and day out reading comic books i

don't know he was just doing he was like he would be he was reading these comics all the time like he'd be on the treadmill reading them one of the things that helps i guess or helped make it possible was that marvel has like scanned and uploaded pretty much like the vast majority of the catalog so you can pay for some kind of service that's sort of like all you can read and so that was just from a practical standpoint how he was able to get a lot of the content but that i mean that sounds like misery to me and it's kind of funny because he's like do not do this he's like i want to tell everyone out there do not do this like it will drive you crazy to to i mean consume 10 hours 8 to 10 hours a day of this of this sort of stuff but um he did it so that you don't have to and um you'll get to see it on cbs sunday morning at some point we're probably going to go to a comic-con uh at some point too and talk to folks there i've never you know i've never no that's not true we did the show from i was going to say very fond memory of

doing the show from comic-con um here in seattle the emerald city comic-con that was a long time ago i was i was very new at tbtl at that point did we get will wheaton we did stop by that was a big that's a big get in that world it really is yeah and i can't believe we had will wheaton up there with us and it was just you me and him no no shawnee was there too sean de tory was there too i think the four of us did that yeah and then we got to wander around afterwards and i believe i also did a vox pop i don't know if that was it must have been did i use it on cairo or us i don't know what but just a vox pop of people who were in cosplay and just talking to them and it was one of those things where i mean i know it's so obvious now and we talk about it but like i just remember a vox pop meaning you know just going around with a microphone and just getting sound from people and talking to people and putting it together in a montage um and it was really a moving experience for me you know i love this kind of stuff but i like heard from so many people who said like i don't know i don't feel super comfortable in the in like the regular world or in my normal skin but then i come here and i don this outfit and i'm surrounded by a bunch of people who are just like my people my family people who are all supportive and it's just like it's so nice i love i just i just love that kind of community and that kind of subculture

and i like that that was your take on it because you know uh negging people at comic cons is not a personality you know or pointing out that you know there is some there's can be some silliness to it uh is not because i mean that was kind of a whole wave of it as well which was like get a load of these people who are dressed up in these

kind of crazy outfits but you're right it's just like and even with this comic book stuff that i've been just kind of this world i've been learning about one of the things that's really interesting is you know superheroes are really by their nature characters who are trying to figure out their identity and express their identity in the world and it feels like the kind of place that can be very welcoming to somebody who is also trying to kind of like work through their identity or establish their identity to the wider world in something that's kind of non-traditional like And just like standing in this comic book store, I was just looking around at all the different queer comics and, you know, comics featuring protagonists who are black, who are Muslim, who are women, who are all these different things. And I just thought, man, if I was like somebody looking for somewhere to feel like I could fit in and find kind of my, I don't know, my people or whatever, like this store would be one of those places. There's just something for everyone. And I feel like those comic cons are kind of the same thing. It's just like must be a huge relief to people that maybe don't feel super comfortable in the world all the time to go into a place where they just feel like, yeah, these folks get me.

I don't like dressing up at all. That's not for me. But I would say if either this year or this year or some other year, I just love the idea that you're like, I like comics. I like Archie. How great would it be for you and I to dress up like Archie and Jughead? Like that's our cosplay. and go to a Comic-Con and just do TBTL stuff from a Comic-Con as Archie and Jughead, because those are the comics that are our speed.

Who gets to be Archie and who gets to be Jughead?

I assumed I would be Archie because of the hair color. Sure, I'll be Jughead, I can get a crown. I actually like Jughead more, I identify way, our personalities are probably, I'm more of a Jughead, you're more of an Archie, personality-wise. Who do you think you are in the comics?

because you're right like i don't am i a jughead jughead's all i can remember jughead's overriding quality is laziness yeah and getting loans for hamburgers which that sounds more like me um but and an archie i could never figure i don't know i don't feel like i was ever really rooting for archie yeah i don't know who i don't know who i was rooting for in in those comics really because i i mean to be totally honest i think i was very intrigued by the shapely female figures you know just kind of betty and veronica and midge and all that i just was i just liked looking at these drawings of these of these teenage girls when i was a kid um i didn't find archie particularly like relatable i don't know he was kind of he was sort of he was i don't know he was kind of vague right like i mean he was he was sort of the the hero of the stories but i don't exactly know why um but then jughead was kind of a was kind of a lout and then you had moose who was just a scary bully there was reggie right reggie was oh he was kind of a bad guy would you be reggie because

you were kind of like getting away with things he's kind of maybe but reggie was guy reggie

was bad though because reggie was always kind of i think scheming against archie he was also

rich he was kind of like very rich which i don't know if that really fits your team no you know

what i kind of consider myself to be more like mrs beezus the line i was going is she the lunch

lady she's not the teacher mrs beezus what's the principal's name maybe mr weatherby maybe Do you want to be Mr. Weatherby? Okay, you be Mr. Weatherby.

I'll be Ms. Beezus.

Oh, with my body shape and my hair, I actually could be Mr. Weatherby.

You need less hair. You have too much hair to be Mr. Weatherby. Will you shave your hair? Will you shave your head, Andrew, to be Mr. Weatherby?

Maybe. I've never heard anybody say you have too much hair. Or not since when in my 20s has anybody said you have too much hair to do this.

Beasley, not Beezus. I'm sorry.

Okay, yeah. Wait, wait, no.

Was that her name? I don't know. I'm going to have to. Do you know what? Let's do this. Let's take a break.

You know what you're thinking of? Beezus is from the, oh, my goodness, the children's books, Beverly Cleary books, Ramona and Beezus, I believe. And Mrs. Beasley, I think, was the, I thought she was the teacher, though, not the lunch lady.

Did she not even have a name, the lunch lady? Because I'm looking at her. I've just done a search for lunch lady Archie, and I'm seeing this iconic picture of her. Miss Beasley

Oh you're right It is Beasley That is Yep So I don't know

Who the I don't know Beasley Beasley is my new rap name I have a line of shoes

Called Beasley

Okay Now that we've solved That mystery Let's go ahead And take a quick break And then when we come back We will talk Speaking of hip hop We'll talk about The Super Bowl halftime show Did you watch The Super Bowl halftime show I did Yes

Okay nice

We will talk about that And many other things When we return Here on TBTL let's thank some donors of the day these

are the wonderful, generous, supportive people who are making a donation to TBTL each month, and that's how we're able to do the program five days a week. Jessica Flug is in Bethesda, Maryland. Is that how you would say Jessica's last name?

I think so, or maybe Flugay, but I'm not sure.

You know, there's that Scandinavian word that got real popular. So now there's even a... Oh, yeah. Hygie? Hyuga?

Yeah, I don't know how to say it, but I know what you're talking about.

There's an apartment building here in Portland named Hygie.

Really? Yeah, it's just like Hygie or something like that, right? It doesn't look like it's spelled based on our language.

It's like the Scandinavian idea of comfort, of comfiness, right?

It's like if you lived inside of a Vanessa Williams video. I remember there was a Vanessa Williams song. I tweeted this. I'm referring to something I tweeted out like 10 years ago. But it's just like there's this video It's probably her most famous video And she's just like all warm In an oversized sweater By a fireplace drinking hot cocoa And singing a love song That is Hiki What is it?

Yeah it is

This is what

That's what I think it is One more time Yeah it derives from a 16th century Norwegian term Hugge Meaning to comfort or console Interesting, huga, that's pretty close to hug It is Is that Vanessa Williams video Is it for You saved the best for last I think so

Let me double check this

Probably I'm going to keep thanking donors I'm going to keep sending out a verbal huga to them Of thanks But with consent A verbal huga of thanks with consent goes out to Ryan Miner of Liberty Lake, Washington. Julie Brown and Doug Stark in Renton, Washington. Linda Hatani in Seattle. Thank you. Dana Hoyle right here in Portland, Oregon. Potential spam. Not today, Satan. My phone is ringing. Your phone gave my phone an infection, Andrew. Uh-oh, they were talking to each other there they were uh thank you dana in portland and then thanks also to david mcmahon in west roxbury massachusetts a big uh a big hug of thanks to all of our donors of the day for

making today's episode possible we would not be here without you hello and welcome to top story

Did you find the answer?

Yeah, it is definitely this song, Save the Best for Last. I figured it was. That's probably the only song I know by her. There's various settings in this, but in one of them, she's in like some sort of stone lined room or I guess that's just a hearth behind her with a fire burning and a bunch of candles. And like I say, she's wearing an oversized turtleneck sweater. She's not drinking. I thought for sure she had a she was holding like a cup of coffee or hot cocoa in that way that you hold it to make your hands warm more than to drink it. But I don't see any evidence of that I was filling in some of these blanks A little bit I think

What was the premise of the song Is that basically This person Has This person was dating a lot of other people And then finally they got together with Vanessa Williams' character

That's how That's my memory of it as far as that goes I could be wrong but yeah I almost in my head I almost wondered If it was a form I'm going to use the L word I almost wonder if it was a former lover Who then went out And they split up And then maybe this I'm going to say it again Lover came back

Sometimes the snow comes down in June Sometimes the sun goes round the moon I see the passion in your eyes Sometimes it's all a big surprise Etc, etc By the way, this is off of the 1991 album The Comfort Zone So that's your Huggy

Right there I'll use a screen cap of it That's a beautiful song that I think I'll be listening to that after the show. Or I'll just go back and listen to the part of the show where you read it out loud, which is just as nice.

And will that, again, cause Spotify to take down this episode? I know. How much, Vanessa Williams, can I just read a lot? If you haven't picked it up, we've run slightly afoul of Spotify of late, which honestly feels noble. Yeah, I know. That's right. I mean, that's not really what's going on. But it feels it feels like we're like if we're going to be in a low key fight with one content, whatever, distributor, if you will, platform, platform, it feels like Spotify is the one we should be fighting with. I've even we've got I got an email from listener Kenneth saying that a number of the listeners.

have sort of gotten together. I don't know if this is on TBTL Slack or what, but have kind of agreed to drop their Spotify account.

Yeah, I haven't seen a lot of it on Slack. I don't know if I missed that conversation. My guess is it must be happening on Facebook because I did get a couple of emails from people, including Paul in Britain or Brit 10 and various other people saying, yeah, this is something a lot of us are talking about. And here are some alternatives if you want to pay for a different music streaming service, which, you know, I have been giving this a lot of thought and I'm very tempted to. And this is one of those things where I should really put my money where my mouth is. But, you know, the one thing that's holding me back, because somebody I don't think it was Kenneth, but somebody made a really good argument from maybe going to like the YouTube music, which would integrate really well with all of my Android stuff because it's all kind of googly. But I got in the habit at the beginning of the pandemic of making like playlists with like cover art and specific song order. and um i know i could recreate them but i distributed them on like instagram and and i'm not saying that i have some huge following but like it just it just felt cool to make to make specific playlists again a little mixtapes that i was then sharing with people on social media and so to just delete all of that and start over i mean i was actually making cover art for these like each year would sort of follow a theme just very basic just very very very basic uh amateur design but still like it i don't know i really enjoy doing it and like uh just changing platforms and that all goes away everything has just become so um everything has just become so temporary in the digital age and i'm still trying to find ways to make permanence but i guess i'm just tilting

against windmills here my problem is that i get almost all of the music that i learn about from my daughter who turns 28 this week by the way what how's that possible what madness is this What does Leslie Jones say? What madness is it that I have a child who's going to be 28 years old? My goodness. But I like to go and peep her Spotify playlist because they always have great stuff. And so if I drop Spotify, I don't have access to that. Yep. And so that's kind of I mean, that's why I'm forced to basically support Joe Rogan. Thanks to Addy. Right. Exactly.

And it's like the fact that he's, you know, asking questions.

um speaking of music the uh super bowl halftime show was a big old thing uh with snoop dogg and and uh dr dre and a bunch of other folks coming out and performing um i i uh i have to admit i was very much feeling the music it's very much enjoying i was very much dancing as we're we were watching the super bowl at becca's brother and his wife's house and so pretty much everybody there was in the age group like kind of you know 40s ish uh where that was just like really the music of our like high school or college and so we were just having a dance party and then i was very sad later to see on tiktok all of these people young people filming their old ass parents vibing that hard to that music i don't think we were alone in having that reaction to it

yeah i haven't seen what the i haven't you said that there's a mini culture war going on

you know everything well you know just people just the the the usual suspects of gross right wing culture trying to declare that the you know i don't know what putting rap music on or having you know largely african-american performers uh is somehow a turn off to america which is hilarious to me in that as mina kimes tweeted the other day to somebody who's trying to say that people are like turning you know basically right wing america is turning its back on this woke NFL the NFL ratings were the highest that they've been in six years this year so that theory is out unless a bunch of liberals started watching the NFL all of that's

not right either because a bunch of liberals are saying we need to stop supporting the NFL as well

like right and that's probably over concussions and everything and the ownership structure and

everything we're seeing with race uh you know kind of in the wake of of Brian Flores the Miami coach getting fired and then and then um suing the NFL and then some teams because of these just despicable practices and like you know i don't geez like we should just have fun and talk about the super bowl i i will say that when i heard about the halftime show that it was mainly going to be like a lot of black performers i was cynical at first because we're in this place where i think the nfl is fundamentally a racist organization as our as is our society right um but you know in these weeks leading up to the super bowl again referencing back to some of the issues that Brian Flores has brought to the forefront again, and going back to Kaepernick and going back to before that, the NFL has a race problem. And it was controversial, was it one year or two years ago, when they hired Jay-Z to be like their black ambassador to tell them, you know, how to be more like, I guess, sensitive to these issues. A lot of people thought Jay-Z was selling out. You know, these are all complicated issues. And when I heard that it was going to be kind of a Dr. Dre led Super Bowl halftime show, I was a little cynical. I was like, this is just like the NFL painting and racism in the end zone and acting like they're on the right side of history when clearly they're not. And I thought it was just going to be, you know, a little bit of, you know, a nod without any real systemic change, which is needed. I was like, OK, whatever. And then it comes on and, like, immediately from the set design, from the set that they put on the field.

That Tams?

Oh, my God.

Dude, that Tams is the most genius thing. I was trying to explain to everybody I was watching it with, like, that is, like, the most perfect South Central, like, kind of burger joint thing that you have on various corners. It's so specific. I loved it. They put a Tams up there.

And, yeah. And it didn't even say pastrami on it, too. Am I wrong about that? Or maybe I was just thinking about pastrami. But, yeah. And just like the way you could get the cross, for those who didn't see it, it was kind of like – from above, it looked like the lights of L.A., but then the stage itself was built as if it was like kind of a bunch of, I guess, like apartments, right? They're not really brown – were they kind of brownstones? I'm not exactly sure. And performers were kind of like performing on the roofs of this fake kind of skyline-y kind of thing. But then also you saw the cross section of all kinds of dancers like kind of dancing within the individual rooms like it was a dollhouse almost. It was amazingly visual. And so they come out and, like, immediately with the stage design, I'm just like, oh, shit, this is really cool. Like, this is really cool. And then, like, I'm watching it and we were watching the game at the Eagles, which wasn't an ideal place to catch all of the detail of, like, the commercials and stuff that I now need to kind of go back and watch more closely. But they blasted the music for the for the Super Bowl halftime show, which I was kind of surprised about because there's a bunch of old white people in there, too. I wasn't sure how they were going to feel about it. But somebody came up and just like cranked the volume. And so it's blasting in there. And I got to say, I didn't know Kendrick was going to I don't know if I wasn't paying enough attention or if this was a surprise. But when Kendrick's part started. Yeah. Like, holy shit, I felt it, man. Like, I felt like I had a little mini version of that feeling when you're at a concert and then you hear the song that maybe even the song you're not expecting. I was like, oh, shit. Like, they're doing. And then I'm like, I was waiting for the line when he was going to say, we hate the po-po because they kill us in the streets for show. I don't know if you noticed that they either bleeped it or they told him not to say it. Did you notice that?

I didn't.

He didn't say po-po. He said, we hate the. And then he stopped or they bleeped it. But I think he just stopped because the music continued. We hate the – because they kill us in the streets for show. And I'm like, oh, still controlling the message. But anyway, yeah, when he started performing. And then what? Anderson .Paak just on drums. Yes, on the drums. Just on drums. Your backing band is Anderson .Paak. Yes, exactly. And so that's not to give short shrift to Mary J. Blige or anybody else who was up there. But those were the two where I was just like, oh, it just keeps going. And, of course, they really – I'm sorry, Luke. I'm not giving you the ball. Here's the last thing I'll say. is I didn't expect – I wasn't, like, looking forward to the halftime show, and I've been very cynical about it to sort of seem like a fait accompli that it was going to be an L.A. Super Bowl in L.A., and L.A. was going to be there, and it just, like, seemed all just, like, set up from the beginning.

As they continue to acquire, like, OBJ and Vaughn Miller, as this billion-dollar franchise just absorbs up all the good players at different positions they need to win this Super Bowl on their home turf, et cetera, et cetera.

And as flags finally start flying in the last 90 seconds of the game for made-up calls to ensure a Rams win, it just all felt like, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but this is the most I've ever felt like a tinfoil hat person. It just seemed like. But having said all of that, they nailed it with the halftime show. The halftime show wasn't just black. It was L.A. It was the most freaking, it was so cool, man. And they really won me over with just, like, and again, like, from Anderson .Paak to Kendrick, like, these are L.A. performers. It was really great. They totally won me over.

Now, I have to say, though, whoever had the idea for 50 Cent to be hanging upside down at the beginning of his performance.

It caught my attention.

It looked, he looked like the embodiment of a headache. like like it made me physically uncomfortable to think of how long he was hanging up sound upside down like a bat waiting for his moment all the blood had rushed and pooled in his head i know that that's a reference to uh one of his videos where he's like basically working out doing some kind of crazy like sit up but he's hanging upside down when he does them i mean i i know what that's a reference to but even so he just he just looked so uncomfortable and then you know he got into the performance it was all good but i was like did he pitch that did someone pitch that to him that just seemed like just hanging upside down like a bat in this thing waiting for your time to come on.

Well, I thought this is a weird thought, but I didn't know he was going to be in it either. And so then as the camera pans down to one of these little rooms and we see a 50 cent hanging upside down, and it takes me a second, I'm like, wait, is that 50 cent? That looks like 50 cent. Because you know what? I did not remember or recall or know that he is connected with the L.A. scene. I don't know why. Maybe I just thought he was more East Coast. but he's hanging upside down, and I'm thinking, wait, is that 50 Cent? And then I'm confused because when his necklace is hanging upside down and spins around backwards, it looks like 20. Did you notice that?

I didn't pick that up.

I was like, wait, why would he be wearing something that says 20? And, like, this is just a thought that went by in a split second. Like, you can figure it out pretty quickly. Oh, he's hanging upside down, and the thing is spinning around. But, yeah, it didn't look like O2, though. For whatever reason, when I first saw him, it looked like he was wearing a necklace that said 20, and I was very confused.

um the last little thing on this that i don't even know really what i want to say about this i just it's just kind of interesting i saw somebody tweeting and this was a black person tweeting a story of their parents basically made them took them like walked them back to a store when they were a kid to return a snoop dogg cassette tape like they had bought this tape secretly their parents had found it out and their parents had forced them to return the tape because Snoop Dogg's association with gang life. And then this person said, and now all of America is like, isn't that just a cute cornflower blue outfit that Snoop is wearing? The dude is a crip, or at least very much wants us to believe he's a crip. He's throwing up a crip sign, he's wearing crip, he's crip walking. Like, I guess we're just all fine with the fact that Snoop Dogg is, you know, presents himself as a gang member, an active member of the Crips. They're young people. Isn't that Martha Stewart's friend? What is he doing? Right. I mean, I don't know. Maybe it's sort of cause play at this point for Snoop. I'm just also fascinated by by the whole existence of Snoop Dogg all these years later, because his whole thing is like just smoking weed and being like, you know, just relaxing and smoking weed and enjoying himself. and yet this guy is on his grind he co-hosted the puppy bowl with martha stewart he was the halftime performer he was like the nfl network was running this whole thing on this like charity that he's lent his name to that helps um you know uh disabled kids play sports etc like this guy is must just be working from morning until night every day on some like because i think the image is like snoop dog is just chilling it doesn't give a bleep but you couldn't be snoop dog and be chilling and not give a bleep all of this how many hours do they have to rehearse this thing and like all of the millions of things every time you turn your tv on if you're watching sports you see him pitching something like this guy must be really busy for someone whose whole vibe is

supposed to be just like chill out and smoke some weed yeah it's really hard to be that big of a pot to be that famous of a pothead right like it's almost right exactly those two lifestyles seem

to be in conflict right yeah and also you know there's been some not great stuff around snoop and it seems to be largely his entourages but like there was a cube 93 summer jam show years ago where uh somebody was beaten quite badly because they tried to get on stage and snoop's security hurt this person very badly and and snoop didn't seem to be disturbed by that there was another story at an airport i think in england where something else happened involving his security like it's also weird to me because we've just all agreed that we love snoop dog even though there is some actual violence associated with at least his kind of like pals and he's up there going like i'm

a crip and he wasn't i mean he didn't he he ended up not doing time but i mean we first got to know him as the rapper who was on up on murder charges right right but i mean he was in jail i think

he came right out of jail and like recorded whatever his first album was he was freshly out of jail at that point i don't think that like if someone's been to jail they can't be a rap star or whatever star but it's just interesting that you know it's interesting that we have all just completely like there's no conversation around is that the best thing for snoop dog to be doing you know to the for the children or whatever and of course all that pearl clutching is usually bullshit anyway like i don't know if snoop dog crip walking is there's a direct line to more kids joining the crips and you could also really get into well why do gangs exist gangs exist in places where there's not enough support for typically young men and they go out and they try to find that sort of whatever they're looking for in the gang lifestyle there's larger societal issues that drive that kind of stuff but anyway i just hadn't even like it just hadn't really occurred to me that he's dressed in all blue because he's a crip Thank you. I enjoyed the halftime show, and I want to stay positive here, so I shouldn't even bring this up because I have a feeling you're way more read up on this than I am, but I haven't been paying attention to whatever the—I will be honest. I was watching the halftime show, and part of my brain was thinking, like, I wonder how this is landing back home. I was actually thinking, I hope we don't have a conversation about the Super Bowl halftime show when I go home in a couple of weeks here. But so whatever you're talking about, whatever the slapback has been on Twitter, all I can see is that something is trending right now. It says music trending. Kid Rock author Nick Adams draws criticism following his comments about the Super Bowl halftime show trending with Ted Nugent. So somehow I think I can draw the lines and I don't think I need to. But it's amazing that we're talking about this Super Bowl halftime show. But, of course, there's an alternate reality going on where his spawned a conversation about Kid Rock, who is now trending with Ted Nugent, who neither of them had anything to do with the Super Bowl halftime.

Right. But I mean, I was saying this to Becky yesterday would be really interesting to have all of the and I mean, this is, I guess, a knowable thing, although it's still I mean, with television, the Nielsen's the Nielsen ratings. I mean is it still is that still how they get ratings Is that still how they determine ratings like

Well oh yeah that's right because they combined Right Arbitron and Nielsen combined so I don't know Which one what brand they go under anymore But I think it's more just like you can directly Tell who's streaming shit right because we're

Getting everything through a Cable box now right like no One's getting over the air broadcast So there it should be like Very knowable how many people are watching Anything because In the olden days like they would assign a certain number of families or they would ask a certain number of households to put this box on their TV, those would become quote unquote Nielsen families. And then they would extrapolate out from what those folks were watching to what was being watched largely. Now I think there should be a way to actually just know what people are watching, right? Yeah, I mean, I think so. But

then also you get into how it's proprietary information as well, right? Because I'm always dubious when you know netflix comes out with a very um uh you know a big headline that is flattering to one of their products or whatever and you know one of their shows or what have you i think it's like yeah but you're releasing this and what are you not releasing there's no um you know there's no sunlight in on that stuff it would just be interesting if you could kind of see

if someone could put a map together of the television what was happening on the televisions Across America during that halftime show I feel like half of America Was turning it up Like you were at the Eagles And like we were in Salem, Oregon And just, we watched it again After the Super Bowl That's how hyped everybody was there About that thing You had like half of America Turning the volume up And getting down to it And then I don't know If it was half of America or what But you had probably some other people Who were turning it off Or, you know, going and doing something else It'd be interesting to see What those patterns were

I know that this is not the cool thing to say because I know that, like, if you don't say the Prince Super Bowl show was the best Super Bowl show of all time, then you're wrong, which I understand. But I didn't watch that Super Bowl. I wasn't really into this stuff whenever that happened. So I only know that more as a historical artifact. So if I'm being honest, my now top two Super Bowl halftime shows are number one, Katy Perry, and number two, Yesterday's.

Well, I kind of said this at the top of the show But what was so funny was As we were all just like Vibing out to this music I was thinking They finally are playing some relevant music At the Super Bowl halftime Because, you know, God bless Maroon 5 Or the Rolling Stones or whomever They're all fine bands And I like some of their songs But it felt like, oh, they're finally connecting With pop culture And with what the real people are listening to With this show And then I realized this music is almost 30 years old

Yeah, no, I mean, the closest they've come to being actually relevant is The Weeknd, I think, which was last year, the year before, maybe. And I didn't know any of those songs because I'm old, you know, but I think that might have been last year. That was a good show, though. I got to say, that was a good one because that was, you know, that was something that was relevant, like very relevant to the younger generation and a more diverse cast up there. And also very visually stimulating With you know the forever Memeable weekend Trapped in a maze

Right yes that at least We got that out of it him running through A hall of mirrors confusedly Our friend the stew bot is trying to turn me Into some kind of meme in our friend group

Yeah I love it I'm there

Me sitting in my bed typing away on my laptop Which was it that really looks like a stock Photograph actually it's very sad Which was used for That CBS Sunday morning commentary I did But now Stu is turning it Into a whole other thing I have to say it's actually very funny

Did you bet on the Super Bowl I did I got totally destroyed because of course I had well I had

the Bengals winning oh that surprises me I thought you'd go I thought you'd put down a lot to win

a little with the Rams I wanted the Bengals to win and I also thought all of the conventional wisdom was that the Rams would win if the Rams are at home they had the better record they had like we said picked up all these fancy players during the season to put on an already good team So I was getting a lot of bang for my buck If I bet on the Bengals just to win Not like points or anything Just the money line bet But I had this four-way parlay going That was actually kind of working Until towards the end of the game Which was I needed I needed Cooper Cup to get a touchdown Jamarcus Chase To get a touchdown And I needed Joe Burrow To get a rushing touchdown and throw for less than 219 yards. And I would have won $3,000 for that, or give or take. And the things that didn't happen were Chase never got a touchdown and Joe Burrow never got a touchdown and also threw for too many yards. So really only one of the three things worked, which is Cooper Cup. I also had Aaron Donald to be the MVP. That was paying a ton because I just thought Donald's going to have a huge game. And he did, but he didn't have quite enough of a huge game to oust Cooper Cup.

Oh, it was Cooper Cup. I didn't even know who was the MVP. I think it's Jamar Chase, by the way. Oh, yeah. What did I say? I think you said Jamarcus. Not a huge deal, but it's one of the rare names I happen to know. But, yeah, so, you know, that's so funny. Like, I was – I just didn't want to watch it anymore. Like, it's – I don't care. You know what I mean? I had a preference for one team. Obviously, I didn't have any money on it. And I had a preference for one team to win over the other because the reasons I kind of set out before, I just kind of had a bad feeling about the Rams winning this one. But I had to keep reminding myself This wasn't a Seahawks loss This wasn't a Browns loss Like the Rams won Like who gives a shit Like I get so Sometimes I get Maybe this is my body's Or my mind's way Of getting engaged with football Is I have to Really demonize one team And I was like Watching like the The The You know A little bit of the Trophy ceremony I'm like turn this off I don't want to see it Or at least I was thinking that And it's like Wait why am I Emotionally invested in this Like at least

you had a reason to be i just feel like and we've maybe we've got a couple of listeners who are rams fans but they just i'm with you it's like first of all it just felt inevitable and it's just like i was also just in la like up until saturday night i was in la so it was very much basking and steeping in all of this super bowlness going on it was crazy uh just like all of the excitement and energy in in los angeles this weekend but it just my problem with the rams they just feel like the ultimate manufactured team because when they used to be the los angeles rams back when they had eric dickerson and jim everett they were in they played in anaheim which i know is the greater los angeles area but it's an hour from la or worse if you're having traffic like it doesn't feel like los angeles to me feels like a different city so they were like the anaheim rams in my mind and then they go and then they go to st louis for all these years louis and of course you know they have the greatest show on turf and kurt warner all that stuff and then it's like in just a obviously cynical move gronky just brings them back to la because somebody decided to build a billion dollar stadium for them on the hallowed grounds of what

was my favorite divy racetrack oh that's right i forgot about that hollywood park rip i used to

love going to hollywood park so it all felt personal to me like really you're gonna like destroy hollywood park so that you can build a billion dollar stadium for this very greedy person, Stan Gronk, who's now ripped the hearts out of the St. Louis people. Yeah, that's

the other thing too, right? Which really sucks

because there was a thriving team there in St. Louis and now you steal them back because you want to make more money in LA then you come to LA and then it's like you hire like the young coach who looks like he could still probably play you get, you go out, I mean look, all the Rams are doing is what football teams do, they try to get better but they've just been better at it they go out and they get this hot shit coach They get all these really good players They spend a bunch of money And then like I said They get Jalen Ramsey When he's like the best free agent cornerback out there They go get Odell Beckham Jr. this season They go get Von Miller Who's like the only person Who's almost as terrifying as Aaron Donald On the defensive line It just felt like the rich kid getting richer The rich kid throwing themselves a birthday party And having the best party favors And so everyone shows up Because you want to go Because they're going to have really good snacks But it's like, I don't know It just didn't feel inspiring Whereas you got the Bengals It's like Cincinnati to me is an interesting town That's, you know, got a lot of history And they've, you know, never won a Super Bowl Did they, wait, have they won? Did they win under Sam White? My thought was they've never won before, but they made it there once.

So I don't know. I mean, I think pretty much all of America was rooting for Cincinnati because of all the things that I just said. That was a sense I had.

Yeah, me too. And also even just the inclusion of like celebrities in the playoff games that we would see. And it just like seems so astroturfy, which is a weird term to use when you're actually talking about fields. But, yeah, it just seemed like, who were we talking about?

Like Leo DiCaprio.

Yeah, that's the name I was thinking. I was going to call him. Never mind. Now I can't remember what I was about to call him a second ago. But anyway, yeah, I was thinking about him just, like, being so disinterested, like, in this shadow of the stadium, like, talking to somebody. He's back practically to the game, but the camera is going to stay on him forever. This was, like, at the, I think, the last playoff game. And just like them trying to gin up this idea The broadcast crew trying to gin up this idea That this is LA's team It's not the Lakers

It's not like Jack Nicholson has been sitting courtside For what 20-30 seasons Like there is arguably A real Lakers fandom in LA That people go crazy for them And a lot of stars really love the Lakers But it's like the Rams are so newly back to LA And it's like So many people in Los Angeles aren't even from there You moved there to get famous And now it's like you just don't have a you just don't have a strong connection. But you're going to go, obviously, like somebody. Oh, my God. I saw a listing of who was in the meta skybox. OK, so like, you know, the new name for Facebook. We didn't get into that, like showbiz pizza, rock a fire explosion meta ad. You saw that one.

Well, I saw the meta. Oh, that's right. Yes, that didn't make any sense. I got to go back and rewatch that, although I still don't think it's going to make

any sense to me what the hell it was well the box had like i think it was like ben affleck and j-lo and like butros butros golly and then like bella porch from tiktok it was just like it was an assembly i don't think butros butros golly is alive anymore but it was just like an assembly of randos who had enough who are famous enough for whatever that meta wanted to bring them together in the box but um the premise of that of that meta ad was i guess it's like you can get together with old friends in the metaverse if the if if if what we think of as real life is not pleasurable enough to us we can go live somewhere digitally because the plot is it's totally like a ripoff of like the showbiz pizza rock a fire explosion like the animatronic band yep and so it's like what happened to like a dog from that animatronic band he's you know they disassemble the the sort of the band they sell off the parts and this this dog kind of goes through various stages almost about to be destroyed in a trash compactor and some woman saves it and grabs this dog and then it's being used at like a space thing where it's like dressed up like an astronaut yeah that's

what i don't understand oh how did because i understand like this thing if you don't mind this is the part of the plot of that commercial that i did not understand again i'm trying to listened to it but I don't think there was a voiceover so it's mostly visuals like you get the you get the whole narrative arc of this furry costume or I guess this animatronic dog and it's about to be crushed like you say in a compactor or or maybe it was the back of a garbage truck but then somebody saves it and then moves it to this big open space gallery like modern gallery kind of thing like what was the point of moving this thing to a big futuristic open space gallery and why wouldn't they just buy a new one i didn't understand that leap

maybe they were trying to get it closer to somewhere where then someone would randomly put

like oculus glasses on it yeah what is that space supposed to be where it finally ends up it doesn't

make any sense yeah i don't know either but then of course it ends with this dog is in because it's in the this dog is now has these goggles on it's going to live in the metaverse now which by the way feels very the matrix right like the idea is that someday our physical bodies these meat sacks that we all live in they'll be wherever they are physically but really where we'll be living is in this metaverse with our friends and so like the band they get the band back together the rock of fire explosion is once again playing but they're not really doing it they're just

imagining they're doing it because they're all wearing those goggles and maybe i guess maybe these other animals are also on goggles somewhere so they're actually getting together so yeah

that's the um that's the reveal all of the animals on their goggles right hanging out in the metaverse

which to me it just it doesn't even feel it just feels like second life to me sort of right that's all it just seems like a newer spiffier second life um i thought the irish spring commercial was pretty funny actually because it was dark it was weird they um they release a teaser for that one so I was kind of waiting to see how it would pay off they released the teaser of this dirty guy floating down

this river looking lost as he comes but yeah it did have a um kind of a culty vibe to it did it not absolutely because he shows up and everyone's very smiley but he obviously looks like he's sweaty and stinky and he's made it to this kind of island that's like irish springland and after everyone kind of welcomes him there's this one guy who's like carving a bar of soap who says like classic something like you know people who stink need to be corrected which got some real shining vibes and then all of a sudden they put him in this basket and like it's which is of course it's sort of a trope for light space you show up at an island and everyone just looks happy and beautiful and and and friendly but it's like some really dark shit going on in the background that's kind of the joke here which i thought was good and edgy for irish spring

i also i'll just say the the carving of the soap like bringing back that classic trope from the old uh commercial is that like i think that just plays well because if you don't get it if you're younger and you don't know that that's a reference to their old campaign fine no no harm no foul but then i mean i'm trying to think i think it was camaro kev somebody was uh at our table who just said as soon as he saw somebody carving that parcel he's like oh i always wanted to do that i always wanted to do that like it was a very universal thing i think for a lot of people who grew up watching these commercials where somebody was shaving off a slice of irish spring i mean we

could do that we have the resources why are we not yeah why am i not doing that carving up irish spring all the time yeah um but uh the other two things really quickly was uh i thought that the coinbase qr code thing was actually fairly clever it um was now have you read the follow-up somebody

told me that this was breaking like in the moment that it was so effective that it just crashed

everything crashed right yeah it did it worked so well uh somebody i think edward snowden actually put out a tweet that said coinbase spending whatever it was let's say 28 million dollars to promote its its site but then not doing the back end design work so that it could actually take on all of the new customers and then crashing five minutes after its 28 million dollar ad he said something is very internet something like kind of was yeah i mean the good thing is it's

not like it's not like you're selling something that needs good security around it or well that that you're a stable platform like this is the thing like people are talking about huge investments this isn't like hey we released this qr code for a little bit of guerrilla advertising if you can be a guerrilla advertiser in the super bowl which i don't think you can be but you know it's going to lead everybody to a new sparkling water or what have you like dude you gotta button your shit up if you're trying to convince america that they should be fucking around with a new currency Like, are you kidding me? That is terrible.

Somebody else wrote on Twitter, the reason I don't really believe in crypto yet is because money doesn't have any Super Bowl ads. Like, no one's putting ads out for money. Money's doing just fine as a concept. Yes, yes. The fact that you have to advertise your money is weird.

Yes. But this is something that I want to debate Genevieve about after these messages tonight is was that successful or not? Because I think people are saying, well, that's a fail. But I think, no, if we're judging commercials based on the job of a commercial, then that's a successful commercial. It's the company that failed, not the advertising execs, you know.

Here I go once again with the email every week. I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man, it's not from a female.

Uh, one last thing on the commercials, uh, and we've got to kind of keep it a little briefer on the emails and V-mails, um, for time considerations, but maybe the listeners can help us get to the bottom of this. Did you see the Jim Carrey cable guy ad? I did.

Yeah. This is one that sucked because I really could not hear in the crowded bar. I couldn't hear what he was saying. I went back and watched it later, but then the visuals kind of sucked on the one online. Is he CGI in that? That's why I can't answer your question. It didn't strike me when we were watching it on the projector, but then I saw your note today. Is that CGI? So I looked for it online, but weirdly, it's not online. I had to find a bootleg one that the video quality was so bad, I can't confirm or deny. My guess is not.

I mean, he looked like he was Jim Carrey circa now. It was obviously really his voice, but there was something about the movement of his character as opposed to the... So it was for some cable company, cable service, whatever you want to call it. But, you know, he's playing his character from the movie, The Cable Guy. Verizon, I think.

A wireless form of entertainment via Verizon.

But it was uncanny. And I mean that in the most kind of, like, literal sense. Like, he was Jim Carrey. He looked older. So that's why if it was, like, Jim Carrey as the guy. cable guy from 20 years ago then i'd be like well obviously they cgi'd it but it's like him it's it's it's more modern jim carrey but there was something uncanny about his movement it just looked like he was somehow computer generated into the ad which i don't understand what the

logic of that or the reason for that would be so you don't mean just like using cgi on top of makeup and prosthetics to make his face look younger you mean like even just the the movement on the screen because i didn't notice any uncanny valleyness there but i could go back and look

again there was something uncanny to me i could have put my finger on it but it didn't look it looked at certain points like it was yeah like his whole thing was his whole character was computer generated like they just had him voice it but not actually show up or something i don't know if any of the listeners know the answer if any of these listeners of ours directed that commercial please get at me hollywood mike tb tb tld hollywood mike probably knows hollywood So ask around, will you?

Did you hear a Walsh Helms scream in that commercial? Because if so, then we know that Hollywood Mike was mixing the audio for it. Because his fingerprints all over. All right. Un email or v-mail? No, I have an email and v-mail that go together. So if we don't have time for both, let's just skip emails and v-mails for today. We'll get you out of here, and we'll save this for tomorrow. I got one response from somebody I'm looking at right now regarding the conundrum that our friend Tiara in Baltimore was having where she has a colleague, really is somebody who reports to her at work, who brings her coffee every day that is much, much, much too sweet. What was it, like three creams, five sugars, and a swirl of vanilla or something?

It was like three pumps of something.

And she never asked for it that way, but also she's not asking for this coffee. It's just being brought to her just, you know, as a courtesy. So she doesn't know if she can say, hey, can can we switch up the order here? Because that seems sort of presumptuous. Now she's sending her employee to get her coffee order. Right. That's no good. So anyway, one person did say she could maybe mention that maybe she's like on some sort of a diet that is that would require her to stop eating and drinking things that are overly sweet. So that would be one way of doing it. But to me, you still have to then like you kind of have to do this thing where you're acknowledging that somebody is doing something nice for you. And as long as we're doing this thing, then can I change my order? Which is, that's where I feel awkward about the whole thing.

Not to mention that if Tiara, like, says, I can't eat sweets, and then this person sees her eating a donut. Sure, that's it. I saw somebody wrote a story somewhere on the line that was, like, it was a woman who had finished a comedy show she was doing, and somebody was trying to buy her a drink. And she didn't want the drink, and she didn't really want to get into it, so she told the person that she was sober. But then later in the night, she changed her mind and just, you know, was ordering drinks. And she said, and now she thinks about that person watching what they thought was her falling off the wagon that night. That'd be like Tiara with that lie. If she lies about not being able to eat sweets and anything she eats that's sweet, that person would be like, oh, no.

Then you really find yourself quickly in a Seinfeld episode where you have to start living this entire lifestyle based on a lie that you told.

Exactly. All right, Ali. I'm looking up this Jim Carrey stuff and everything I can see online I mean I know it was him I'm not wondering I'm not questioning if it was actually Jim Carrey but again I cannot put my finger on it there was something weird about the ad but maybe the listeners know so get at me if you know the answer alright that's going to do it for today's show thank you for listening everyone thanks for hanging out with us we're going to be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you until then have a great Monday stay safe, take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all. I know more about football than you do. Oh really? When was the first Super Bowl? 1967, what does a running back do? He gets paid. To do what?

I already answered your question. Power out.