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TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3643 John Papas YOU!

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

March 18, 2022 | 01:23:28 | Leisure, Comedy

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The internet has unearthed a McDonald's character that time had almost left behind. Luke and Andrew look back at the life and legacy of Uncle O'Grimacey and debunk rumors of his connections to the I.R.A. Plus, a Papa John's franchisee in the U.S. decides to keep his restaurants open in Russia, because it's unfair to deny Russian citizens their share of subpar pizza.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:03 | Speaker 1:

We have to get our story out before Graham runs her version.

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Now, I know it's a lot to ask. If we take down the woman who runs the network, we could potentially lose our jobs.

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But why did we become journalists if not to uncover the truth and use it to change the world?

00:00:15 - 00:00:48 | Speaker 4:

You know what? I'm in. You know what? I'm in, too. Graham is mean AF. That's a Twitter term, which I can only assume stands for mean as Frankenstein. There is another term, DTF. Don't touch Frankenstein. To which I usually just reply, WTF, won't touch Frankenstein. Right, so we're all in. TBTL. Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is?

00:00:48 - 00:01:13 | Speaker 6:

It's Friday, Friday. Gonna get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend. What are you guys doing? Is this a hose job where you're hosing me down? Dude, you hose yourself down. You hose yourself up and down, Charlie. No, I hose yourself. Come on, what do you want me to do? I don't care. Yeah, get a job. Oh, get a job? Yeah. Just get a job? Why don't I strap on my job helmet and squeeze down into a job cannon and fire off into job land where jobs grow on jobbies?

00:01:13 - 00:01:32 | Speaker 5:

That was really, really, really terrible, but everyone does that kind of stuff sometimes. It happens, like, once or twice or three times in every life or twice. I mean one, or once

00:01:32 - 00:01:33 | Speaker 4:

Let's get to the jokes

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Alright, hello, good morning and welcome everyone To a Friday edition of TBTL A show that just might be too beautiful to live

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Oh yeah

00:01:44 - 00:04:36 | Speaker 3:

My name is Luke Burbank I'm your host I'd like to grow a pair sometime Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center Right here in Portland, Oregon Where I am I'm just assessing the studio situation. I have three different water sources here. I have two different kinds of seltzer. And then I have my flat water and my clean canteen. And it's because I ate some very, very salty food last night in honor of St. Patrick's Day. I had some wagyu. I always say that wrong. Apologies. I had some Wagyu corned beef. And I think I need to officially, at this point I need to officially retire the title of vegetarian from my self-identity. I think I have to call myself like an infrequent meat eater. Because there have been now a number of incidents in the last six months where I've actually eaten meat. I just feel like it's misleading to describe myself as a vegetarian if I have meat more than once every four years. And I'm going on the average of about three times a year now. So I'm extremely parched. I've got all my water here. I've got to tell you that corned beef was da bomb.com. Really, it was pretty good. So, you know, maybe I'll just be a person who eats corned beef on St. Patrick's Day. I don't know. I do know this. We're at episode 3643 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. It's going to be a good one. Oh, speaking of food, we've got lots of food in the news. Welcome to Food News Today. Including the story of this American who kind of, in a sense, I guess, runs all of the Papa John's pizzas in Russia. Sometimes you got to stop and smell the pizza. And he is refusing, or the Papa John's franchises in Russia are refusing to close. Making it a fairly unique thing because you have a lot of American companies that have stopped doing business with Russia. They've pulled out. They've closed down. Um, and Papa John's is not doing it. And it raises an interesting question, which is, should just the sort of average Russians be punished, you know, for what's going on in Ukraine, even if they didn't have a say in the matter, and also is actually giving them Papa John's pizza a punishment in and of itself. You know, maybe the most humane thing to do is to close those places. Anyway, uh, we'll talk about that. Oh, you know, one of the places that has closed in McDonald's, uh, is, uh, excuse me, in Russia is McDonald's.

00:04:36 - 00:04:43 | Speaker 2:

I like nothing more than to end the day with one of these fine hamburger sandwiches from the good people at the McDonald's.

00:04:43 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 3:

But I saw this piece in the news yesterday, probably in honor of St. Patrick's Day, or as I call it, Bad Vegetarian Day, that there was a character in the 80s, Grimace's Irish cousin named O'Grimace.

00:05:00 - 00:05:09 | Speaker 1:

Ogrimacy? Who existed to promote the Shamrock Shake? I thought this was made up. I did a deep dive. No, Ogrimacy was real.

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Weird!

00:05:12 - 00:05:34 | Speaker 1:

Very weird, so we will discuss that. Plus, music for your weekend, because it's a Friday, a.k.a. a Friday. We'll do all that with the help of this young man, the longest-running cobro of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. I'm going to pretend I didn't just see him send an email to the Fantasy Baseball Draft Board. He is Andrew. Fire at all Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle, Washington Good morning, my friend

00:05:34 - 00:05:39 | Speaker 2:

No, no, no, boss, you got it wrong See, I scheduled that email last night

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I like this idea that I'm the boss

00:05:41 - 00:05:49 | Speaker 2:

Right around this time I was like, you know, I should schedule this email for 10.25 in the morning Nothing weird about that

00:05:49 - 00:05:56 | Speaker 1:

I should schedule this for right during the extra boring time of Luke's long ramble at the top of the show Good morning

00:05:56 - 00:06:27 | Speaker 2:

Good morning, we were talking about this off-air I wonder, is it interesting to talk about on air? We have this little baseball fantasy league that you were invited to last year, and then you asked me if I wanted to co-manage a team with you because you weren't ready for all the responsibility to handle yourself. Or any of the responsibility. Or any of the responsibility. But that was a lot of fun, but it was also very intimidating for me because baseball fantasy is no joke. It is a complicated system, and I still have to do it.

00:06:27 - 00:06:30 | Speaker 1:

Unlike baseball, which is allegedly a simple game.

00:06:30 - 00:07:00 | Speaker 2:

It's a simple game where you cry, right? You're crying in baseball? I can't keep it straight. This is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball. We did surprisingly well. Oh, the music's gone again. Did I stop it? No, I guess we're just there. You're on a roll. You're hot, man. I apologize. No, don't apologize. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be passive aggressive. I just found myself once again kind of like I felt like something was wrong.

00:07:01 - 00:07:06 | Speaker 1:

I just basically copped to not being a vegetarian anymore at the top of the show. So that ate up a few minutes.

00:07:06 - 00:07:08 | Speaker 2:

We need a better word, though.

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I just don't think I can. I just think it's misleading for me to go through the world saying I'm a vegetarian if I fairly regularly on, like, let's say, every four-month basis end up having meat. I just feel like I'm being dishonest with myself and the world. What about a Veggie Sometimes Ian? Oh my gosh, that is perfect. You should actually trademark that. We should make t-shirts. Veggie Sometimes Ian. I'm writing that down.

00:07:34 - 00:07:49 | Speaker 2:

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. I think you are. I am writing it down. You are writing it down, but we're not making t-shirts. How about TBD on the t-shirt? Okay, sounds good. I'm not ruling it out. All right, sounds good. I like the idea of maybe a sleeveless sweatshirt.

00:07:50 - 00:08:16 | Speaker 1:

You really want to go no sleeves. This is the second time this week. Yeah, remember we were talking about like T-shirts, like a T-shirt that would make me look buff, kind of like one of those T-shirts that has a very fit, like male figure on it. And in that conversation, you also mentioned a sleeveless T-shirt. I think this needs to be the summer of a sleeveless T-shirt for Andrew, washing the car, mowing the lawn, sleeveless.

00:08:16 - 00:08:38 | Speaker 2:

Washing the car, no shirt, obviously. But then the rest of the time, sleeveless shirts that, of all kinds, but that I've ripped the sleeves off, of course. Not from the manufacturer that way. But, I mean, button-down shirts, western shirts with snaps. I just tear the sleeves off of all of them and just stride confidently through the sweet team district.

00:08:39 - 00:08:49 | Speaker 1:

How about a T-shirt that has a very photorealistic image of your exact body? Oh, God. So that it looks like you're shirtless, but you're wearing a T-shirt. That would be a war crime.

00:08:50 - 00:08:55 | Speaker 2:

I'm pretty sure that's the fastest way to the Hague right there. Who made these shirts?

00:08:56 - 00:09:04 | Speaker 1:

You and Papa John in the Hague. Everyone's wearing headphones because there's a translator, and your war crime is that shirt.

00:09:05 - 00:09:56 | Speaker 2:

Anyway, just to put a pin—we don't have to talk about this if it's not interesting, but basically I got done with fantasy football last year. We did pretty well throughout the season, but it was mostly because of luck and some help from a friend who helped us draft. But, Luke, I swear, even after doing fantasy baseball for one whole season, I still don't know how points were accrued for pitchers. I was moving pitchers around, but I really didn't. Honestly, I'm not exaggerating. I had no idea what I was doing. And every now and then I would look it up, and then I would just get too confused. Like every tutorial I would find would already start with an assumption of a base of knowledge that I did not have. And it got to the point where I couldn't ask somebody because either the answers were too confusing or it's like when you've met somebody 13 times, you can't on the 14th time ask them what their name is. You know what I mean?

00:09:56 - 00:09:59 | Speaker 1:

Oh, I don't. I don't. I've done that many times. You disagree with that?

00:10:00 - 00:10:06 | Speaker 3:

Well, no, I agree with you. It's bad form. It's unfortunate. It's bad form that I've engaged in far too many times.

00:10:06 - 00:11:22 | Speaker 1:

So all of that is to say I have a little bit of a anxiety issue, whereas we are now getting ready for the baseball draft this year. You and I are going to do it again with the same folks. But this year, because the pandemic seems to be ebbing, they are interested in getting together to do an in-person baseball draft. And I, I don't, I've run out of excuses to tell our commissioner why I can't, why I can't join in person. So I was just like, listen, I'm not confident enough to join in person. I don't know, like, if nothing else, sitting behind literally two computers and maybe an iPad in my office while the clock is ticking down, I can maybe scrounge together a decent draft or something that at least is not mockable. But I don't even know what it would look like to do it in person with other people. I don't have baseball information just rattling around in my head. I need as much support, and I feel like dim lights and alone time to make this happen. And it sounds like everybody wants to get together. That's how I describe my love life. I've never met these people. They sound nice. I'd like to get together to watch a baseball game with them, but I can't meet these people on draft day. I'm already a wreck, even if I just stay at home to do it myself.

00:11:22 - 00:13:17 | Speaker 3:

well i have to tread very lightly here because as far as this child that is our fantasy baseball team i went out for a pack of cigarettes last year and i am a very very absent father so i i want you to do whatever feels right to you as far as raising this child and um but i i will say this i've met i know two of the people in the fantasy league our buddy gurlitz and uh and our buddy graham my buddy graham and gurlitz and they're two of the nicest like most non for how much they know about baseball and love sports they're like the least kind of frat uh you know whatever the energy is that would be concerning about a certain kind of toxic masculinity these are people that absolutely do not display that and i assume everyone else in the league is similar it's a very inclusive inviting friendly environment would be my guess that being said i totally get it i famously on this show got roped into really the worst case scenario of this which was pesca and i had a fantasy football team i mean this well i can tell you exactly when it was it was when katrina happened because he was covering the the aftermath of katrina and was at a town hall some kind of meeting that he had to be at at the same time that the draft was going on and this was in the days where you had to be in person the i mean there was an internet but it didn't get run through the internet the way it is now and i went to this get together with like 10 long island jabronis who i had never met and who were deep in the fantasy football game and deep in the ball busting game and it scarred me so i i i know how not great it can be under the wrong circumstance i don't think these are the circumstances but i also think you should do whatever makes you feel the best, because you're the one handling all the hard parts of it.

00:13:17 - 00:14:02 | Speaker 1:

And this is one thing that I keep on saying. The fantasy could be made up of people like Mr. Rogers and what was the Romper Room lady? Miss Molly from Romper Room and Big Bird. Did you have a Miss Molly? Our Romper Room lady. I'm on Molly. It's not about I'm worried about people kicking sand in my face and and making fun of me like i just i am not comfortable in the fantasy space like i'm not comfortable just with the computer that is looking at me you know what i mean like i just don't know what i'm doing it's like i don't know i feel like showing up uh with a bowling ball to a uh to a tennis match or something like i'm trying to figure it all out i don't know if i want to figure it all

00:14:02 - 00:14:30 | Speaker 3:

out in front of people this again i i really want you to do whatever whatever feels right to you But I do I have noted something with you, which is you are so kind of self-critical around your sports knowledge, even though you really at this point, Andrew, know a lot about at least the sports of football and baseball to the like we were talking yesterday about Fernando Rodney, both on air and off.

00:14:31 - 00:14:35 | Speaker 2:

And he takes up way too much of our mental space, by the way.

00:14:35 - 00:14:38 | Speaker 3:

We pray to the Fernandos, both old and new.

00:14:38 - 00:14:48 | Speaker 2:

We need to exercise for an end. You and I need to go into some sort of therapy where we exercise him from our minds, like some sort of sunshine for the spotless minding.

00:14:48 - 00:15:04 | Speaker 3:

Yes. So we put on two laser balding helmets and we lie down on a bed and Tom Wilkinson has to come over later. But we were talking about... fernando rodney after the show and you commented when do you think rodney was a mariner and it was

00:15:04 - 00:15:18 | Speaker 2:

it was like in actually in like 2007 or something no no not quite that it was um it was wait you guessed you guessed 16 i guess 14 and 15 or something and you said oh wow okay so because

00:15:18 - 00:15:54 | Speaker 3:

obviously you were very much following baseball when the fernando rodney stuff was going on and you commented like wow that was actually kind of a long time ago and i would argue the same thing goes for football like you for better or for worse have at this point been pretty deep in the sports game of those two sports for you know pushing a decade now but i think your self-assessment is that you kind of don't really know about stuff and that you're you're new to it and that you can't claim fandom uh or wear a certain kind of shirt if it makes if it sends the wrong message like uh i've been wearing a veg sometimes shirt out in the world i don't ever i just want to say

00:15:54 - 00:16:02 | Speaker 2:

It's like a sports shirt where somebody says, oh, yeah, I love that guy. What was his slash line again? Right, exactly. Like, for instance, I only learned what slash line was like a month ago.

00:16:03 - 00:16:41 | Speaker 3:

So anyway, I just want you to do whatever makes you feel comfortable. But I also just want to mention to you that you actually have – you are walking around with a more than sufficient amount of sports knowledge even if you kind of don't give yourself credit. Maybe. Anyway, I'm nervous. I think – So here's my question. Yeah. I mean you're not going to the thing. You've now established a boundary, a border with the fantasy folks saying, look, I'm just not up for it because you want to just be totally focused on what you're doing. You don't want to have the anxiety around the socializing and the did I pick the right middle relief pitcher in the seventh round.

00:16:41 - 00:17:00 | Speaker 2:

You know, what I just did was – actually, I just made a mistake and I just permanently deleted the email that I scheduled to send out during your intro today. No, what I did was – and it actually feels good. So they sent out – the commish sent out one possible – Michael Chiklis? Yeah, I'm such a –

00:17:00 - 00:17:08 | Speaker 3:

How great would it be if Michael Chiklis actually ran a fantasy baseball league? So he was both the commish – so the commish was literally the commish.

00:17:08 - 00:17:14 | Speaker 2:

Why do I always think of him and Dennis Franz in the same space?

00:17:14 - 00:17:35 | Speaker 3:

Well, he was in The Shield and – well, you know what it was? I think the commish was out at around the time NYPD Blue was out. Right. They were both these kind of like network kind of dramas that were, you know, had a lot of heart. And my guess would be that the commission NYPD Blue were both on the air at about the same time.

00:17:35 - 00:18:45 | Speaker 2:

Right. And so back to this thing, our commission is not Michael Chiklis or I don't think it's Dennis Franz was saying, hey, can we all do a draft on this particular date? and could we get together in person to do it? And I was like, eh, that's a little rough. That date, I actually had some other stuff going on, so I didn't have to lie, but I could just say, listen, I got some other stuff going on. I can do that date, but I can do it online, right? But then the date had to change, and then it changed to a date that I was completely free, and I didn't give an excuse. I just said, well, I could maybe do it in person, but I'd like to maintain the option of doing it online, and I didn't give a reason. And then today, the date just changed again, and again, it's a date that I'm completely free, And I'm like, I'm sick of this chicken and egg. I'm just telling everybody, I don't have the confidence levels to show up and do this in person. And that's what I put in my email. I'm like, I don't think I have the confidence to do it in person, but, you know, maybe. I don't know. What date did they move it to? What if we went together? Does that help things? I mean, as far as the draft is concerned. Well, I'll distract them while you do the drafting. Okay, you'll do. I think we are now talking April 4th, Monday, April 4th.

00:18:46 - 00:18:49 | Speaker 3:

Interesting. I could probably make that work Let's talk about it offline

00:18:49 - 00:18:57 | Speaker 2:

Some of these people might listen to TBTL too And could potentially hear this as well, I assume Or are they more Livewire guys?

00:19:00 - 00:19:05 | Speaker 3:

Well, they started out as TBTL heads But I kept promoting Livewire So they've migrated

00:19:05 - 00:19:08 | Speaker 2:

When you see them at the live show on Thursday Ask them for me

00:19:08 - 00:19:43 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly Let's do this Let's take a quick break And then we come back I have good news, listeners We have actually, for once, solved a mystery. Well, we didn't. The listeners did. Of this audio tape that was mentioned during yesterday's Dazzling Donor message. Somebody was wondering about this particular kind of joke. And we couldn't remember what it was, but it's been unearthed. And we have it for you. So we'll play that. Plus we'll talk Papa John's and O'Grimacy coming up here on TVTL. I mean, liveware. I mean, whatever this is.

00:19:43 - 00:19:58 | Speaker 1:

cbs sunday morning i believe we was hoping for some razzle dazzle razzle dazzle that's right man razzle dazzle on your mark on your mark get set get set now ready ready go everybody razzle

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all right let's thank some dad

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Dazzling Donors, these are the wonderful, generous people who are donating a dazzling amount of dough, helping keep the show going. Folks like Julie Hazi in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:20:14 - 00:20:45 | Speaker 2:

I love that we now can get pronouncers on the Dazzling Donors because Julie has been a donor and a member of the TBTL family for a long time now. We hung out in Arizona, lo those many years ago. That was one of my favorite TBTL meetup memories. That really was great. But in my head, when I see an email come in from Julie or whatever, I never say that name correctly in my head. Hazy. I need to train myself. It's Hazy. Not Hass or Hassy, but Hazy.

00:20:46 - 00:21:35 | Speaker 1:

Well, the thing is, you are, you know, related to, in a way, people that have a last name that's very similar. I wonder if that's part of it. Hold the E, right? But otherwise? It's in that neighborhood So I can understand why you'd have There be a little confusion on your part And I do I also very much appreciate the pronouncers Although that still doesn't Actually cause me to get the pronunciation right Much of the time But it's a nice touch Julie says I never know what to say for these things Other than that I love TBTL And I've been so hashtag blessed To have it be part of my life These past 12 plus years And I'm proud to pay it forward But not in a dumb Starbucks ordering line Kind of way Where do we land on that? That

00:21:35 - 00:21:41 | Speaker 2:

Take the money and run Right, obviously Or like, I mean

00:21:41 - 00:23:10 | Speaker 1:

But again, I felt like What was confusing to me at the time When those things were making the news About, you know, like You know, a Dairy Queen in Iowa Where they're on their like Seventh day of continuous paying it back Was I still don't really understand the practical side of it like you'd have to be it'd have to be a two window system where the the people you're you're at the window i get where you're ordering but somehow the people in front of you haven't paid so you're able to pay their bill before they do or something and then the person behind you pays because you can't pay for the person i guess you could pay for the person behind you if they've put their order in yeah i guess but have not paid i don't know i the whole thing is is slightly confusing to me but um i'm glad to hear julie's not engaging in this chicanery um luke and andrew have really become my friends even if they may not totally know it oh we totally know it julie and have only met me once years ago i want to continue to help them cure global loneliness with my donation job done thanks julie uh to that end i would also like to give a shout out to my library 10 friends especially john susan kristin and treasure i think unless we have two listeners named treasure i once literally walked by listener treasure on the streets of seattle like on a like in like the sort of finney ridge area i believe i was just literally walking down a random residential street and i walked past listener treasure if i am remembering and

00:23:10 - 00:23:14 | Speaker 2:

treasure stopped you that's how you know or you just saw somebody who looks like a treasure and

00:23:14 - 00:23:49 | Speaker 1:

kept moving i think well i mean i first of all i did from about a block way i was like that person is a real treasure but their name also turned out to be treasure and i my memory is maybe later treasure reached out and said i think i walked by you on like on like you know 64th street or something but um anyway shout out to uh the library tens also julie says i'd like to uh remind andrew And everyone else That all library materials Both physical and electronic Are free to borrow And you don't actually have to Quote rent them I think when we were talking

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Because I love I think when we were talking About libraries the other day I kept talking about renting books And maybe that's not the proper Terminology

00:23:56 - 00:24:01 | Speaker 1:

Well I kept calling them libraries So that was Right And I kept calling them borks For some reason

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Can I rent some borks?

00:24:05 - 00:24:49 | Speaker 1:

My library has even begun Loaning out laptops And Wi-Fi hotspots during the pandemic there is a lot of paperwork but again they're totally free to anyone with a library card seriously thanks for supporting libraries and mentioning us from time to time on the show finally please keep maddie my dear in real life 10 friend in your thoughts and prayers and send her your love she's going through some huge and difficult stuff with her usual grace and good humor and i hope this will brighten her day a little power out maddie we're thinking about you yeah um i uh it this is the system called daisy what is the digital libby yes

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libby that's a national thing right i'm waiting for a book to come through on libby right now i borrowed possibly while under the influence of alcohol i was

00:25:00 - 00:25:16 | Speaker 1:

at a friend's house the other night and he i'm moving away from the microphone so i can't remember the name of it uh now i can't find it i just love that that's what you're now doing when you get tipsy is going on libby and reserving digital materials like that's so much less bad than the

00:25:16 - 00:26:28 | Speaker 2:

other things you could be doing well that's when you're tipsy what happened was i was getting tipsy with friends at a friend's house and i understand the confusion i don't usually go to people's houses but um i was just wrapping up another book that i was like finishing um just you know in my life i was wrapping up a book and i saw that he had a hunter s thompson book called the rum diary on his bookshelf and i was like oh i've only read one thing by hunter s thompson it was fear and loathing in las vegas so i was like hey can i borrow that and he's like yeah just please make sure to give it back and i was like okay and then immediately the next day when i woke up i was like if somebody says first of all i'm always good at returning books and i would give it back but when somebody says please give it back it makes me now nervous to have this book and it makes me nervous to like bend a page or anything and i wish i hadn't taken it but what i did do was i came home and i went on libby and i also am now on a waiting list to rent the digital copy of this book as well so if i'm ever reading this in a place where or if i ever want to read this book in a place where i I fear, like, I might get spaghetti sauce or pizza sauce on it or fall asleep and wrinkle a page. Instead, I will pull out my phone and read this book on my phone.

00:26:29 - 00:26:36 | Speaker 1:

See, I think that makes a book, like the Velveteen Rabbit, that makes a book loved if there's some pizza sauce spilled on it.

00:26:36 - 00:26:49 | Speaker 2:

But you don't want somebody else's pizza sauce on it, though. You don't want to lend out a book, or rent out a book, as I like to say, to a friend, and then have the friend return it to you like all crummy and gross with their

00:26:49 - 00:27:11 | Speaker 1:

neither a borrower or a lender or a pizza sauce spiller be I believe sayeth is the problem is that Shakespeare neither a borrower or a lender be I don't know how about this could you cue the music maestro on your mark get set now ready

00:27:11 - 00:27:25 | Speaker 2:

go Oh, getting some great feedback. Some people really defending the Dazzling Donor music. Thank you. Sending me text messages. Good. Saying. Thank you. My stans.

00:27:25 - 00:28:33 | Speaker 1:

Razzle Dazzle stans. You know who's a TVTL stan? Christine Blake, who's in New Malden, Southwest, London. Okay, Andrew. So now we know we've got Paul out there. We've got Christine. We've got our ex. Clive was coming from Florida, I believe. Right. Clyde, right? Oh, Clyde. No, I thought it was Clive. Is it Clyde? You're probably right. You're probably right. It's actually, it's Clive Owen. It's the actor Clive Owen. He likes to, you know, be kind of subtle about things. So I feel like we are finally breaking through in the UK in a pretty major way. Listener and donor Christine is another example of that. Christine says, oh, hi, you're Scottish 10 here. I apologize, Christine. I don't know how you feel about the whole England thing as a Scot. Hi, you're Scottish 10 here, even though you do live there. This is my first year as a dazzling donor. And I just wanted to say how much pleasure I get from listening to TBTL, yelling at my device when I know the answer you're looking for, even though I know you can't hear me. Long may you continue.

00:28:33 - 00:28:44 | Speaker 2:

Well, I wonder if, coincidentally, we had a yelling at the phone moment with you looking up that Shakespeare quote. Do we have any answers on that? Is it biblical? Is it Shakespeare?

00:28:44 - 00:30:00 | Speaker 1:

The character Polonius counsels his son, Laertes, before he embarks on his visit to Paris. He says, neither a borrower or lender be, for loan oft loses both itself and friend. I knew that. Yeah, Shakespeare. baby um uh christine i have one request for you um more money no uh could you leave us a message could you could you call could you leave us a message on the voicemail line uh if you feel comfortable in that space 206-414-8285 i don't know the country code it's a long distance call yeah 206 go just call in a night or weekend 206 414 tbtl um because i am on the record as saying i find the scottish accent to be one of the most mellifluous things ever uh half of what i see on tiktok is just scottish folks just doing fairly mundane things but with their delightful and wonderful accent if we could get some good scottish accenting going on the show as a piece of tape I would sure love it I love the movie mellifluous I can't even uh-huh I couldn't even couldn't even get the joke out I

00:30:00 - 00:30:42 | Speaker 2:

I feel like that's a lesser that's a lesser Jolie. Mm hmm. Wasn't she? Was she? What was it? It was the real name is like something that's bad. Oh, a huge rabbit is just running across the road. Andrew, be safe, little buddy. This is, you know, who's throwing their phone in London. I want to say I want to call it Melisande, but that's our friend, Mellie. Right. Island. It's it's a Maleficent. Maleficent Maleficent is the kind of Mean character That Angelina Jolie plays But I do think that Melifluous would be a much better film What a terrible joke that I couldn't back up

00:30:42 - 00:30:48 | Speaker 3:

With any information I sent you squirming And scrambling around Oh my god

00:30:48 - 00:31:50 | Speaker 2:

What am I doing Well thank you to our donors Our dazzling donors For dazzling us with their donations We would not be able to do this without you hello and welcome to top story let's um solve this uh tape mystery real quick um before we get into the papa john stuff yesterday speaking of dazzling donors yesterday uh i believe it was listener uh christina in san francisco who uh and i should say dazzling donor christina in san who was asking that we play a piece of tape she said it's a drop of a british football commentator saying ignominious and uh something about bringing shame upon the entire country and the crown and you and i could not for the life of us place it i thought maybe it was in a intro package but i you didn't think that was the case and i have to say andrew i think you for all the times that your memory lets you down i do think you have a pretty savant ability with tape on the show i was wrong

00:31:50 - 00:31:54 | Speaker 3:

Hang on, this one, though, because you're right. This one's in my collection. This one, you were absolutely right.

00:31:54 - 00:31:56 | Speaker 2:

That's what I get for trying to give you credit.

00:31:56 - 00:31:58 | Speaker 3:

I wasn't sure where you were going with that, but no, I mean.

00:31:58 - 00:32:00 | Speaker 2:

Oh, I didn't know that part of the story, actually.

00:32:00 - 00:32:08 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, it's so, so I think it was, was it listener Chris who tracked this down? Or no, no, listener Nick who tracked this down. Listener Zach.

00:32:08 - 00:32:08 | Speaker 2:

Okay.

00:32:08 - 00:32:10 | Speaker 3:

Nick tried to help us.

00:32:10 - 00:32:13 | Speaker 2:

Here's the thing. Listener Nick checked in with some content.

00:32:13 - 00:32:15 | Speaker 3:

Who was Angelina Jolie, I believe.

00:32:15 - 00:32:17 | Speaker 2:

It was Angelina Kidman.

00:32:17 - 00:32:19 | Speaker 3:

Oh, my gosh.

00:32:19 - 00:32:39 | Speaker 2:

What happened was listener Nick tried Listener Nick tried To help us out Our friend Nick the King of Ska He said it was a stand-up comedian So that was some context But he didn't know exactly who the stand-up comedian was And then our friend Zach Actually sent us a link to the tape That's right

00:32:39 - 00:33:21 | Speaker 3:

And then when I heard the tape And that link to the tape that Zach sent in Was a slightly abbreviated version Of what I had played in the past And it's true. I don't know why I landed on this tape and I know why I couldn't find it yesterday, because instead of it being called like, you know, soccer or announcer, it just says James Adomi in sports. And I never I had no idea that was James Adomi. And so I found the original piece of tape that I think I used to use or maybe once used or sometime used parts of this either cut up as little little bits of tape in a montage. but also I have a whole minute version here that I probably started a show with way, way back in the day. So take a listen to this. This is James Adomian, and this is what we were looking for yesterday.

00:33:22 - 00:34:25 | Speaker 1:

The British announcers for sporting events do not sound as dumb as America's. They'll be like, there's the ignominious side of the UK girlie fishing the bull out of the back of his own net. That can't be anything but embarrassing to the British people, the parliament, and the crown. And you're like... Holy s***, that guy reads multiple newspapers. It's like that for regular, like, news as well. Like, the American guy will be the anchor who's like, Yeah, well, for more news and blah, what's happening here internationally, let's go to a British reporter on the ground. Coalition forces today engage remnants of the Republican Guard approximately 90 kilometers south of Fallujah. You can say anything you want in the cadence of a British reporter, and it just sounds true. I'm standing here in Tripoli, where moments ago, Muammar Gaddafi was taken up in a whirlwind and crowned king of the unicorns on the planet Jupiter. There you got it, folks. Muammar Gaddafi, now promo the unicorns.

00:34:27 - 00:34:44 | Speaker 3:

I did not remember all of that. I haven't heard that in years. We're so lame. It's not dated, though, at all. None of those references are dated. Anyway, thank you, Christina, for reminding us of that. And thank you, Zach, for tracking it. I would have never, never, ever gotten there.

00:34:45 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I couldn't have. Because I think of James Adomian for his impressions. He's a very talented impressionist. He does a Jesse the Body, another extremely relevant impression. Says the guy whose one impression is Bill Clinton.

00:35:00 - 00:35:26 | Speaker 1:

um me but um he does a jesse the body venture he does a mean bernie sanders i think he would uh during uh the the the last election i i want to say that he would take part sometimes in these um sort of uh debates that between bernie sanders like him playing bernie sanders and um uh the guy who played trump on that kind of a comedy central show anthony adamuk or something

00:35:26 - 00:35:30 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, I vaguely remember that. I would never have known the name, yeah.

00:35:30 - 00:36:44 | Speaker 1:

So I think, yeah, Adamanyuk. Anthony Adamanyuk and James Adomian used to do these Trump versus Bernie debates, and they were actually kind of amazing to watch because they're both super talented impressionists. So, yeah, thanks to everyone for taking us down that little trip down memory lane. Let's talk Papa John's, Andrew, and the fact that, well, this is classic twitter for yous uh everyone on twitter is just crapping on the actual papa john the you know the guy uh papa john schnatter who was drummed out of the company for being racist among other things he is of course not in charge of papa john's anymore much to his chagrin so he's just on like tiktok and other social media platforms just making videos that point out that Papa John's pizza is often inedible. Like his whole, he's really taken, it's a real kind of like super villain origin story. Like he was the Papa of pizza, but then they stole his company away from him and now he's the villain of pizza. At least as it pertains to Papa John. He's also like their biggest customer though too, right?

00:36:44 - 00:36:51 | Speaker 2:

Right, he's always buying it to prove that it's bad. I ate 35 pizzas yesterday. None of them were as good as they were

00:36:51 - 00:38:54 | Speaker 1:

when i ran the joint so he is it turns out not in charge of the papa john's anywhere including russia but what's going on on twitter this is how i saw this today papa john's was trending i always click on that i'm a you know i'm a sucker for any papa john's content and um and so it was people just basically assuming that it was papa john schnatter who had decided that papa john should still sell pizza in russia which couldn't be less accurate like me saying ben franklin invented daylight saving time which i guess is also not the case thanks listener mike i guess there was an entire 99 invisible debunking that rumor so much like me getting that wrong the people on twitter are thinking it's like it just seems it seems like a thing papa john would do but it turns out it's actually uh more relates to this american uh who has been living in russia for the last 20 years his name is christopher winn he's a colorado native who moved to russia in the early 2000s with no money had 2700 worth of used computer parts that he was selling he shows up in russia uh he apparently does okay for himself he is offered a chance to buy into part of a papa john's pizza franchise in russia like i believe it's like a store a papa john's um or how do you say in soviet russia what's john papa's you yeah that's terrible that's great i love it i was trying to think of what father how you say father in in russian i'm not sure um but uh maybe it's papa i mean it could be papa that's the maybe that's why it translates so well so he uh you know it did well with that and then basically opened this company this sort of franchising company that ended up franchising like 90 of the papa john's in russia 190 papa john's restaurants and we're using the term restaurant somewhat loosely there but um oh that's a good

00:38:54 - 00:38:58 | Speaker 2:

point because you can't you can't is there anywhere you can eat inside of a papa john's

00:38:58 - 00:39:59 | Speaker 1:

no it's delivering i don't know what the russian scene is in the states it feels mostly like pick up to me i don't think you can yeah okay but um but anyway he's this guy owns 190 or at least he did it's a little complicated because what happened was he hit it big in the in the american crummy pizza game in russia and had formed this company that then owned 190 of these papa johns he has now apparently sold the papa johns to franchisees just to individuals but he still gets paid a lot of licensing money he has a lot of money tied up in these papa johns still operating in russia okay because he gets paid a percentage of various things he also owes people a lot of money still i guess including alex ovechkin who's a hockey player for i think maybe the capitals uh who's on the record as being pro putin so that's why he's getting booed every time he takes the ice now so this guy uh christopher winn has said he thinks it's unfair to the russian

00:40:00 - 00:40:47 | Speaker 2:

to withhold the glory that is Papa John's Pizza from them. And even though it was announced, basically the Papa John's company in the U.S. said, we're not going to sell pizza in Russia because of the Ukraine thing. But it's not really their call. It's more this guy's call, probably having to do with the rules around franchising. And he says he has no plans to close down these 190 Papa John's in Russia. And I think it's actually a much more interesting and larger question, which is depriving a random Russian person who had no say in the matter. And let's take Papa John's out of it because, as I joked at the top of the show, maybe the most humane thing is to not offer Papa John's as a product because I've rarely had it be a satisfactory piece of pizza for me.

00:40:47 - 00:40:49 | Speaker 1:

I heard that joke. It was funny. I wasn't sending emails.

00:40:52 - 00:42:23 | Speaker 2:

But, like, just generally, I mean, obviously what's happening in Ukraine is uh it's criminal i mean there we're we're watching war crimes happen and so there's a feeling of helplessness if you're in the west and a sense of you want to do the right thing you know apple has pulled out mcdonald's has pulled out um and yet the question that i'm wondering about is like an average russian who's walking down the street in you know moscow or whatever who maybe they oppose the war maybe they're you know i mean they're under a dictatorial thumb of putin as much as anyone is them not being able to like their money like their bank accounts being frozen or their their assets losing half of their value if not more like it's destroying the lives of these people as well and again some of them are probably very pro what's happening but i mean a lot of them are most of them are probably not even actually getting any real information about what's happening they think that it's a what's being called a special military procedure or incursion or something like i don't know i just i want this to be over i want the people of ukraine to be safe i want vladimir putin to take a long walk off a short pier possibly horseback possibly shirtless i don't know or wearing a t-shirt that looks like his exact physical body but like i don't know how do you feel about that this idea that like we want to we want to extract or we want to impose the maximum amount of pain on just a random ruski who's just trying to live their life and really

00:42:23 - 00:43:40 | Speaker 1:

kind of didn't have anything to do with this i need to tread so carefully here because this is such a serious and complicated topic and i don't know what the hell i'm talking about but i would raise this more as a question because you're right on a human level i have those same emotions about the humans who are you know being lied to as well you're right those who do support the war are are you know obtaining information that they have access to and that information is filled with lies from the government like it's just it's rough um but isn't part of the purpose of sanctions obviously a big part of the purpose of sanctions is to get the oligarchs and and the big money people but also i thought part of the the purpose of sanctions is to potentially hopefully spur a sort of popular uprising of the people against the government and so isn't that the point that if if if the sanctions are causing misery for the common people it is to the it is not to punish them but maybe to the end of them looking around and saying our government has failed us because of this illegal war um and we are we are the ones who are suffering because of this so we should you know rise up or or speak speak out no matter how dangerous that is yes i definitely think that's

00:43:40 - 00:45:00 | Speaker 2:

the that's the long that's the long-term plan i mean it seems like it'd be pretty hard to overthrow vladimir putin and i wouldn't want to be like in the first wave of people doing that like definitely if you're one of the first you know thousand people who are going to like storm the the castle i assume vladimir putin lives in a castle if you're like it's not going to end well for you Like, if you could get the entire nation on board, you know, you could maybe overthrow the government. But it just like I understand why they're doing it. And I think it's the right call. I think the sanctions are definitely the way to go versus actually getting involved in a, you know, military escalation where we actually start, you know, shooting bullets at Russians and Russian tanks and et cetera. I think the sanctions are the right move. But I also just feel I guess I feel on some level kind of bad because I know there are people in Russia who are not down with this and their lives have just been totally destroyed as well. I'm not like kind of trying to go Tucker Carlson here and go like pro Russia on it. I just mean like an average person who had no say in this, not even be able to get their Papa John's, man. I guess in this case, they are going to be able to get their Papa John's. The other thing about this, this guy, Christopher Wynn is, as I mentioned in the Times piece, the New York Times pieces, he's got a lot of financial interest in this, too. Like he's trying to say like it's.

00:45:00 - 00:45:16 | Speaker 3:

a statement where you know he's defending the Russian people and their freedom to continue to have pizza but it's also very lucrative for him to for them to continue to have pizza so I kind of think we have to take his his sort of statement on it with a major with a huge grain of salt oh

00:45:16 - 00:46:13 | Speaker 4:

of course and I'll be honest I didn't see this piece so I'm just going on what you have told us but um yeah of course I mean and what is you know not to count other people's money but like what what sacrifices would he have to make right if these were to shut down is he somebody who lives a very lavish lifestyle and therefore it would be a relatively small sacrifice for him or is he somebody who has this weird industry where he's making a living by being able to franchise these places overseas but he's still just you know if it were to go away he'd be in the poor house like i don't know i haven't read right up on this but my guess is he would still be okay for a while if he had to wrap up this business on moral grounds and potentially legal grounds it appears that this person is making a shitload of cash that's what i would guess that's why i don't lose my sleep and he's he's spinning it his way right and it just yeah you would hope

00:46:13 - 00:46:41 | Speaker 3:

that in this situation he would see the greater good which is um that the people of ukraine unfortunately i mean it sucks if you're in russia but the people of ukraine need to be sort of taken care of liberated and also this needs to end for them and i guess the way that it will end the quickest is if we the rest of the world sort of unfortunately subject russia itself to a certain amount of pain hoping that that causes a change there by the way um this

00:46:41 - 00:47:26 | Speaker 4:

is how you say father in russian that's helpful that's yet john that's yet johns i love the idea it too and it's not even like i mean i guess i was thinking like his argument was well listen these are workers who were there who are working in these places but it's his argument that does throw that out yeah is it really just like well they've suffered enough they can't have papa john's like that would just be amazing i mean that would be amazing if that was the straw that broke the camel's back they're just like listen this is rough i can't diplomacy i can't take money out of the bank like there are food like this this sucks all around but i'm willing to live with it But then it's like, wait, you took away my Papa John's? You took away my, what is it, Jofsky? No, actually, you know what?

00:47:27 - 00:47:29 | Speaker 2:

Papa. Papa John's.

00:47:29 - 00:47:38 | Speaker 3:

Yes. So the first search I did was, how do you say father in Russian? And that was the thing I just played. But the way you say Papa in Russian is Andrew.

00:47:38 - 00:47:39 | Speaker 2:

Papa.

00:47:39 - 00:47:41 | Speaker 3:

So it's Papa John's.

00:47:41 - 00:47:41 | Speaker 2:

Yeah.

00:47:43 - 00:47:47 | Speaker 4:

Papa John's. Papa. And that's when the uprising began.

00:47:47 - 00:49:05 | Speaker 3:

exactly um i saw this tweet today about some character called a grimacy that i thought was just a hundred percent an internet spoof it was it was a tweet that was sort of like one of those things where someone took a screen cap of something and the screen cap was a picture of basically like a demented looking green version of grimace but way more like hr puff and stuffy and then written next to it was uh in the 1980s i'm paraphrasing it i don't have in front of me but it was like in the 1980s mcdonald's introduced a character called um ogrimacy uh to promote the shamrock shake but then he was later they later got rid of him because the person playing ogrimacy was caught at an event making pro ira statements sorry that was the tweet i was like this is just as genius work but there's no way this is true so i googled it and i found an article on guilty eats.com remembering uncle o grimacy mcdonald's bizarre shamrock shake mascot and yes andrew uh uncle o grimacy was a real character that mcdonald's rolled out uh i believe in the 1980s there's even a tv commercial would you like to hear the commercial where uncle o

00:49:05 - 00:49:28 | Speaker 4:

grimace he shows up i would i would you know what also i would like and i hate to be a sucker for this shit but man they got me like i want a shamrock shake really bad right now like for real like they the mcrib thing you know doesn't get me as much i don't enjoy a mcrib sandwich but man growing up i would have a shamrock shake and us and they're still doing this by the way

00:49:28 - 00:49:47 | Speaker 3:

yesterday was st patrick's day i'm guessing because i don't i'm i have my guess is that They cast a pretty wide net on this. You know what I mean? As far as they want to sell as many shamrock shakes as they can. Here's my question. Is it, I don't think I've ever had one. Does it taste, is it minty? I believe it's minty. Oh, okay.

00:49:47 - 00:49:59 | Speaker 4:

And I haven't had it in forever. And again, like, hey, Andrew, you're 45 years old. Would you like a minty milkshake? No, thank you. I will move on with my day now. But because I have this thing, I mean, they.

00:50:00 - 00:50:22 | Speaker 2:

McDonald's are geniuses of marketing when it came to this false scarcity thing. It works on me. I am having such nostalgia right now for a Shamrock Shake. I'm almost thinking I might kind of remember this Grimace character all the way. There's no way for me to prove that. But this green Grimace sort of rings a bell.

00:50:23 - 00:50:50 | Speaker 3:

I don't think the audio is super great on this. This is just off of YouTube. but this is Uncle O'Grimacy showing up. So it starts out, it's Grimace, who, again, we've learned is a gigantic taste bud. That was the story six months ago. That's supposedly what Grimace is, a giant taste bud. Grimace is sitting on a bench next to Ronald McDonald, and he looks very nervous. Grimace does.

00:50:50 - 00:51:00 | Speaker 5:

My Uncle O'Grimacy is coming to visit, and I didn't get him a present. Uncle O'Grimacy

00:51:00 - 00:52:03 | Speaker 3:

Toidily, toidily, toidily down the lane With a Tam O'Shanter on Actually, I don't know if it's a Tam What's the shape of a Tam O'Shanter? He has like a leprechaun kind of hat Like a top hat, but it's green I think a Tam O'Shanter is like that kind that has plaid And is like you might see like a Scottish golfer wearing Or something Anyway, O'Grimacy is coming down the lane. He's green. He's got like a hat, like a leprechaun hat on. He's carrying a green bag, and he's very excited. They keep throwing out, by the way, Shor and Begora, which I think means sure and by God. I think that might be Gaelic. That's what they were saying there. Shor and Begora. I think that's what they were saying.

00:52:03 - 00:52:20 | Speaker 2:

So I kind of lost the plot there. Well, yeah. So Grimace's uncle is coming, his Irish uncle, and he forgot to give him a gift. And so the gift is going to be a shamrock shake. But wouldn't Uncle Grimacy not need a shamrock shake? Isn't he the one who delivers the shamrock shakes?

00:52:20 - 00:53:05 | Speaker 3:

That's what I would have That makes more sense to me as a plot But I don't think that's what's happening here I think what happens is As you stated Grimace is a terrible nephew He's basically done zero prep For Uncle O'Grimacy Who came all the way here from Ireland And so Ronald McDonald's answer Is to get them a shamrock shake But in that case You would think Ronald McDonald would disappear And come back with two shakes But instead They just go to McDonald's together and they they enjoy a shamrock shake and i i know like being afraid of clowns is not a personality but i'm gonna tell you ronald mcdonald was upsetting and yeah yeah like genuinely like i'm not just trying to be like i'm so afraid of that's so weird it's like no legitimately this

00:53:05 - 00:54:02 | Speaker 2:

ronald mcdonald character was upsetting no he went through some really tough phases through the years probably has some more rough phases ahead of him frankly but um i'm not done talking about the plot of this commercial because a couple of things here number one i've never gotten a visiting uncle or aunt or even cousin a gift when they come to visit me i didn't think that that is part of our culture i didn't realize that was maybe this is something i need to examine in my own life and start getting more why do you think you have such strained relations with much of your family that is true and then the flip side of that is or another aspect of all of this is again let's say that i had i'm just trying to think let's say i had a an uncle who was visiting me from cincinnati and so here in seattle he's coming from cincinnati to visit me here in seattle and so i'm going to present him with some skyline chili right food of cincinnati no that doesn't

00:54:02 - 00:54:37 | Speaker 3:

make any sense what is grimace doing right when my family would come from philly to visit us in seattle we wouldn't take them for cheesesteaks right we would go to the pike place market you want to entertain them the visitors with some of the local cuisine so the idea that what uncle o grimacy wants the most in the world is a thing that's literally bubbling out of every spring in ireland which is shamrock shake that's as soon as you go over there it's just every you know it's just irish spring and waterfalls of shamrock shakes that's not a good gift for him people

00:54:37 - 00:54:43 | Speaker 1:

drinking shamrock shakes and carving soap for some reason. Ooh, I'd like to go there. It does sound nice.

00:54:44 - 00:54:59 | Speaker 3:

Clean. To the question of if Uncle O'Grimacy really was pro-IRA as in Irish Republican Army, they also look into that in this piece. There's a salacious rumor that the Uncle O'Grimacy character was allegedly retired due to his controversial ties to the IRA.

00:55:00 - 00:55:39 | Speaker 2:

Apparently, an actor in an O'Grimacy costume said something controversial to a customer at a McDonald's event regarding Irish separatism. That would likely have been big enough news in Philadelphia where, remember, the Shamrock Shake helped start the Ronald McDonald House. I didn't know this, by the way. Oh, I didn't know that. So the Ronald McDonald House, which is an amazing organization and does really, really good work for families that are dealing with sick kids. They do all kinds of amazing stuff to help those families that often have to uproot themselves and go to a hospital somewhere in another city because of their kids being sick. I didn't know that there was I didn't know it got started in Philly and I didn't know there was a connection to the Shamrock Shake.

00:55:39 - 00:56:43 | Speaker 1:

That's also the organization, by the way, that collects. I guess you go to somebody's house and they're maybe this is more in the Midwest, but I know my parents were doing this for a while. you'd go into their garage and they would have a big bucket like one of those big home depot orange buckets filled with nothing but pop tabs or soda soda can tabs and i was always like you guys that's got to be an urban legend like why wouldn't whatever organization it's not an urban legend and it's directly connected to the ronald mcdonald house for some reason there and i can't remember off the top of my head and they may have actually somewhat recently dialed back that program a little bit if memory serves which it often doesn't um but i mean frankly but um yeah that all all roads because i was like going to snopes on that i was like there's no way you guys are actually collecting these tabs for any reason other than it makes you feel good like i felt that way about everybody um who was doing that but no there was some program directed by the ronald mcdonald house that was collecting those tabs and somehow turning them into funds well if

00:56:43 - 00:57:03 | Speaker 2:

If I remember right, because this was like not that long ago when we looked this up, I think it has to do with the concentration of the aluminum in the tab. And so that's somehow more easily melted back into me. Although I'm considering going with aluminium. Can I pull that off? Can I start calling it aluminium like they do over there in the UK? Like James Adomian's announcers?

00:57:04 - 00:57:04 | Speaker 1:

Yes.

00:57:04 - 00:57:10 | Speaker 2:

Yes. Aluminium. I just think that's such much more of a mellifluous way to say the word aluminum.

00:57:10 - 00:57:26 | Speaker 1:

I actually disagree. Aluminium. That's one that I don't care for as much. I think we do that one right. By the way, a Tam-O-Shanter. Did you look that one up? That's the one that's like a floppy hat, almost like a beret, right? Like you'd see somebody wearing this while playing bagpipes.

00:57:26 - 00:57:26 | Speaker 2:

Exactly.

00:57:27 - 00:57:28 | Speaker 1:

Exactly.

00:57:29 - 00:59:23 | Speaker 2:

So they are investigating if O'Grimacy really was making pro-IRA statements. Have I ever told you the story of when I was in Philly? I must have been in my early 20s. I was old enough to go to a bar, so I must have been in my early 20s. And, you know, I grew up obviously in the Northwest. I'm technically on my mom's side. I have some Irish in me. But I'm not like super connected to that world. You know, I've never had a visit from Uncle O'Grimacy, as they say. But I went with my cousins in Philly to a place called the, I think it was called the, that they were members of. It was like called the Ancient Order of Hibernia. And it was wild. We went to this, in this basement. I mean, it's kind of like a, you know, it's like an American Legion or like an Eagles, but it was all based around hardcore Irishness. And it was wild. They were taking up collections for the IRA. There were all these Sinn Féin posters. Wow. It was like legit, like the, the, the, they were, it was as if we were in Northern Ireland and we were fighting the Brits or something. And I was like, had no context for this cause I was, you know, didn't grow up giving a shit about any of that stuff. Um, but anyway, uh, that's my connection. That's my IRA in Philadelphia story. But anyway, this article says, there are no results on the internet actually confirming that Uncle O'Grimacy or the person playing Uncle O'Grimacy made pro-IRA statements. They say the rumor likely stems from a 1997 Onion article in which O'Grimacy is referred to as the most radical member of the Grimace family. so that's okay that's that's probably what happened i'm trying to think like i i think

00:59:23 - 01:00:00 | Speaker 1:

everything i know which is very very little about the ira i learned from that um tom clancy movie with um uh harrison ford right clear it's not clear present danger it's the other one i happen to have it on a cassette i happen to have it on a vhs cassette so it was something that i would watch over and over i think like in college i'd come home between classes and i would need to stare at something while eating literally my ramen noodles on my on my van seat that i was using as a couch and sometimes i would watch reruns of that tv show arthur about the aardvark and other times i would just put on one of my He's sad.

01:00:00 - 01:00:14 | Speaker 2:

several cassette VHS tapes and one of them was it wasn't clear in present danger though I don't think it was whatever one came before that and Harrison Ford at one point yells get down at his wife before something blows up does any of this ring a bell yes it does although I feel like

01:00:14 - 01:00:36 | Speaker 1:

Harrison Ford he he went into a phase of his career where he was doing a version like Liam Neeson's kids and grandkids being stolen there was just like probably 10 films where Harrison Ford is either like a sky Marshal or Some kind of secret agent but he's always Kind of doing the same action he's always kind Of yelling the same thing now

01:00:36 - 01:01:03 | Speaker 2:

There might be kind of a reason for that Because I think he's literally playing the same character I think it's the Jack Ryan character Right and I'm kind of I'm looking up That name I didn't have Jack Ryan at the Right there at my fingertips in case you're Wondering if suddenly I'm smart because I'm Not but Patriot Games is the name of the Film I was thinking of and I think Clear and present danger i think came after that um but i do think they're all part of the same universe i i think i could be wrong but i think no i think you're right the jack ryan universe

01:01:03 - 01:01:40 | Speaker 1:

no i think you're absolutely right um i i don't know what it is about me that those sorts of movies i bet you if i was well if i was on an airplane i could watch a movie like that with some interest i'll watch anything on an airplane or even if i was just home maybe a little under the weather kind of you know under a blanket eating some uh you know soup i could kind of like while away an afternoon watching a film like that but as far as like oh my god the new the new jack reacher or whatever like you know they're always making some version of that movie just with like like i think john krasinski is john krasinski the new jack ryan he was the new jack ryan i can't

01:01:40 - 01:02:20 | Speaker 2:

remember who's playing the new jack reacher i will tell you what i haven't seen any of the tom cruise jack reacher movies i don't have really much uh interest in that stuff either any anything that is like mostly explosions you can just miss me with that but i will say uh i did read the first two or three um jack reacher books uh just because you know they're just like beach reads or whatever you can yeah get through them quickly um and it is ridiculous that tom cruise plays jack reacher i mean this was genevieve's argument before i read the books but she's so right such a big part of the Jack Reacher character is he is huge. He is a large framed man who can knock heads together. Like that is who Jack Reacher is. Having Tom Cruise.

01:02:20 - 01:02:24 | Speaker 1:

Lynn, please pull that tape so I can use it to introduce myself on Monday.

01:02:25 - 01:02:36 | Speaker 2:

Tom Cruise is a talented action star. I'm not denying that, but he's not the right person to play Jack Reacher. There's a physicality that is so prominent in the books.

01:02:37 - 01:03:01 | Speaker 1:

Jack Reacher is the creation of a British writer named Lee Child. Yep. and the new Jack Reacher is a guy who's named Alan Richson, and he is 6'3", and as the New York Times described him as being, 6'3", with biceps the size of Serrano hams. Dude, that sounds right.

01:03:01 - 01:03:45 | Speaker 2:

The new Jack Reacher is massive, and I think more to the character. I would maybe watch that new series. I mean, there's so much other stuff that I feel like I need and want to watch that a Jack Reacher series falls so far down the list, I would never see it. But one thing that Genevieve and I always joke around about those books is he is also an expert sniper. Like that's part of Jack Reacher's background. So like, and again, I feel like I read the first three books and in all of them, it seems like there's some moment where he has to win a shooting competition for somebody's life, or he has to shoot a piece of string 100 yards away, Or somehow the plot always bends towards him needing to use his marksman skills.

01:03:46 - 01:04:08 | Speaker 1:

It's so hilarious. Like a badass spy whose whole their sort of specialty is filing their expense report. So once every movie or book, they have to use Chrome River. They have to use Concur in a way that helps figure out where the hostages are. What's the least useful specialty that one of these folks could have? Everybody's talking about The Peacemaker with John Cena.

01:04:08 - 01:06:19 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, I've watched that. that's good is that good well it's good but you this is one where i feel like you really need to watch the um the the war maker yeah well it's two sides of the same coin man every fighter fighter is also a pyromaniac no um what is the uh what is the movie that that sets up the peacemaker i told you i loved it i saw it in the theaters um oh is that like one of those marvel movies it's the marvel movie and it was like it has almost the same exact name as as the one it's remaking only they put the word the suicide squad sorry right oh that's dc then i think right um oh yeah right of course this is the dc universe sorry everybody oops nobody's listening anymore they're all the phones are broken um but yeah they released i think i have this right but i you know whatever just everybody calm down if i don't i think the first movie was suicide squad it. and it was one of those things that was just like a failure for a lot of different reasons and then they it's both kind of a remake and a sequel at the same time called The Suicide Squad and it was the first movie Genevieve and I saw after theaters reopened again and I was like whatever I'm not interested in DC action movies like I'm sure this is going to be a disaster but if the popcorn's hot and the 20's on I'm there right and I loved it so much it was so good and it was one of those James Gunn movies and I kind of didn't realize what a I'd always heard that name but I kind of didn't understand what what kind of the artsiness that he sort of brings to these things and the humor and so I would I mean for me though that's one movie that I'm so glad I saw in the theater like there are these there's this scene of pure violence that they turn into like just visual poetry with butterflies it just comes out of nowhere and it doesn't even it doesn't really even fit in with the rest of the movie but it's just so beautiful you're like wow so they hooked me with that and then genevieve uh started it started watching um what's the new one the peacemaker and uh and then i i kind of watch it with her and then re-watched it myself it's it's really good but you kind of i think need to watch them i think you kind of need to watch the movie first yeah i might maybe i'll well you know i mean

01:06:19 - 01:06:54 | Speaker 1:

i know it's dc but i'm still working on this tv story about marvel um because uh this guy um douglas walk here in portland wrote well he read every single bit of the marvel story at least from when it started up until about two years ago because of course it's being created like all the time like as we speak there's marvel content being generated and it's all supposedly part of the same plot through a bunch of devices but uh because of that i'm also looking into some dc stuff i think we're going to go to a con uh somewhere and talk to folks so who knows maybe as just maybe i have a professional obligation to go and watch some of those movies now can i say

01:06:54 - 01:09:09 | Speaker 2:

at some point we need to get our friend and colleague john who works in apm's membership offices i think a lot of listeners may be kind of familiar with him a lot of emails come to him those days these days and you and me and him are working on the upcoming tbtl-a-thon with him um And I love him to death. He's a great guy. He listens to the show as well. And he is deep, deep into the Marvel universe. Right. And he gets excited when other people are into it as well. So he's often kind of trying to get me to watch things like Peacemaker and giving me some background on it and kind of easing me along. And that way, when somebody loves something a lot, they want you to enjoy it, too. Right. And so when. How's that working out, TBTL listeners? When he. I know he's not even listening anymore after this. but he um you were talking about this project that you're working on and how it was a revelation to you that all of the marvel universe stuff is is kind of interconnected in some way yeah and he's like yeah um and here's some other things you could kind of read or listen to if you want to know more about how it's all interconnected and then he said but if you're just looking for a i'm reading this directly i just scrolled back to our to our slack conversation but if you're just looking for a quicker dive on this i put together over the weekend just as a joke for some of my colleagues since i'm the marvel guy here is this slide show i put together um that explains how all of the just specifically the movies are all tied together and i'm like okay yeah i'll take a look at your quicker dive luke it is and i want to make sure i get the number right here he put together a powerpoint deck that is 88 slides long it's a history of the mcu 27 movies released to date it has you send that to me i actually need that yes i actually will send this to you now this is just movies but this is facts it's some of his commentary it's like what order to watch them in versus what order they came out in it is i mean i just would just like to point out once again for a quicker dive here's something i put together just as a little joke from my co-workers and i'm like okay 88 slides lucals mcgoogles 88 that's the cliff's notes that's the cliff's notes i will send it to you i just downloaded yeah no honestly that would be

01:09:09 - 01:09:38 | Speaker 1:

really helpful for me because it is a i mean it is voluminous these stories and all this stuff i'm i'm guessing that john has probably already got that all the marvels book um because it seems like very much up his alley so uh yeah please do send that to me all right let's do a little music for your weekend before we slide down that dinosaur into the weekend do you have a big weekend of boxing things up and moving and stuff like that yeah like i say genevieve's been doing just so

01:09:38 - 01:10:00 | Speaker 2:

much of the work of packing and moving things i was able to do a couple of trips to the new house yesterday after work so i could at least point to one thing that i did and so um i feel like i really need to um i need to pick up some of my slack here i've been slacking off but uh yeah this weekend i'm supposed to did i tell you this right i'm supposed to get internet installed at the new place and we're going with

01:10:00 - 01:10:29 | Speaker 3:

fiber this time which is new and exciting um and it looks like the house is already wired for fiber thanks to our friend broadcast barry who we gave a tour of our house and he was pointing out all kinds of things that we didn't even know as as the homeowners he's like oh yeah look you're already wired for for this it's coming into the house there and it's coming out over there so anyway but the technician is supposed to show up from century link at some point in the small window they gave me between 9 a.m and 5 p.m tomorrow i just want you there shirtless washing your car

01:10:29 - 01:10:36 | Speaker 2:

No, I want you on a riding lawnmower With a gas mask on, shirtless Like the guy that lives in the Carcosa I'm True Detective

01:10:36 - 01:11:07 | Speaker 3:

Would you like to paint daisies on me? Yeah, exactly Anyway, so that's what I'm going to be doing So I'm finding some at-home projects I have a leaky dishwasher I want to look into And I also might want to paint this foyer area So anyway, I will be doing that stuff tomorrow In the meantime, I will share some music For your weekend with you This is kind of interesting This is a song that came by me in a surprising way. Matt Gourley. My guess is you're more familiar with Matt Gourley than I am. I am. You might even know him personally. I don't know.

01:11:08 - 01:11:14 | Speaker 2:

I don't. I've not met him, but I love his contribution to the Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend podcast. Right. And he's Sona Mosefsian.

01:11:15 - 01:11:31 | Speaker 3:

He's big in that podcast space. Like, I don't listen to a whole bunch of things that are in the Comedy Bang Bang universe, but he's in that universe, and he's doing stuff with Paul F. Tompkins. And they do Super Ego together. I can't remember if Paul F. Tompkins is a part of that There's this whole world of comedy podcasts I think he was at least for a period of time

01:11:31 - 01:11:48 | Speaker 2:

I feel like I just I don't listen to it either But I just see like the tile When I'm scrolling through you know various podcasts And I feel like I see Paul F. Tompkins I think it's Feels to me like it's also the guy who plays God In the good place Is kind of part of that world Oh yes I can

01:11:48 - 01:12:32 | Speaker 3:

And he's also in Brooklyn Nine-Nine I can't think of his name off the top of my head But anyway But I didn't realize this Matt Gourley was on Comedy Bang Bang as he, you know, sometimes is playing characters or whatever. But he was on as a musical guest the other day. He, way back in 2006, formed a band with a bunch of other people. It looks like the lineup has changed over the years. But they go by the name Townland. And they have a new album coming out. I think it's called Honey on the Hi-Fi is the new record coming out. Oh, that's a good name. And one of the songs they played, he's not the main vocalist on these, or at least not on the songs I've heard. This first song that I've heard is called Gin Atomic, and it's off of Honey on the Hi-Fi by Townland. I really like it.

01:12:53 - 01:13:37 | Speaker 1:

Let's face the facts There'll be werewolves at our backs We were hard throats Pulling bank jobs in the past So we'll hunker down Build a bunker out of town Pour some concrete Dig it real deep in the ground And it's just you and me Drinking gin and tonic Super sonic Blee The fat guy With the evil eye

01:13:37 - 01:13:38 | Unknown:

Makes free

01:13:38 - 01:13:54 | Speaker 3:

I'd like to play more of it But I need to be a little bit careful On the length of these things I think that vocalist is named Shannon Locke Looks like it Yeah, and I really love her voice I love that song. Yeah, it's great, isn't it?

01:13:55 - 01:14:36 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, Honey on the Hi-Fi is just a great name, too. That's good. I'm going to check that out. Now I'm deep in the Matt Gourley music universe. It looks like the superego guys. By the way, I was wrong about the God dude. Is that guy's name like Vincent Jackson or something? I know his last name is Jackson, I think. The guy that plays God on The Good Place. Oh, he's not. He has a very serious voice, a very low voice, very businesslike. I don't think he's in superego based on this photo, But it does look like the folks from Super Ego also formed a, like a glam rock band called Spirit, spelled S-P-Y-R-Y-T Okay Just their publicity photo is really quite something for Spirit

01:14:36 - 01:14:41 | Speaker 3:

Wasn't Spirit spelled the other way? Weren't they the band that were suing Led Zeppelin over Stairway to Heaven?

01:14:42 - 01:14:45 | Speaker 2:

I don't know about that Yeah, we talked about it Did that come up on the show?

01:14:45 - 01:14:55 | Speaker 3:

We talked about it on the show, and I think I talked about it maybe on – or I think I produced some segments about it when I was in L.A., and I think it's the same time you and I talked about it as well.

01:14:55 - 01:16:00 | Speaker 2:

They need to – the spirit needs to just sue Greta Van. fleet yeah just eliminate the middleman go sue them for ripping off friggin led zeppelin uh the song that i would like to play is by a singer a performer who goes by the name pink panther s which i guess was an answer on this is what wikipedia is telling me it was an answer on the game show the chase what do you call a female pink panther and i guess the answer was pink panther s and this um performer uh whose real name is let's see i don't think that she ever lists her i'm looking at her wikipedia page and i don't know if it actually um let's see she was born in bath england in 2001 to a kenyan mother and an english father who is a statistics professor doesn't look like it actually lists her real name so we're just going to go with pink pantheress um this is from a style of music they're calling bedroom pop andrew and i love it can we play a little bit of the song pain from pink pantheress

01:16:00 - 01:16:51 | Speaker 1:

We'll be right back. Cause every time I feel the pain You told me it wasn't over That we'd be together soon But was this before or after You told me to leave your room I used to think we'd make it far It turned out but we are

01:16:51 - 01:16:53 | Speaker 2:

So that's Pink Panther-us

01:16:53 - 01:16:58 | Speaker 3:

That's great, I love that Catchy, right? Yeah, very much so, I love that

01:16:58 - 01:18:54 | Speaker 2:

This whole, you know, I was just listening to this song and then it kind of on the I guess it was probably Spotify they just sort of went to the next song afterwards and the next song and I just found myself listening to this all morning really good stuff from Pink Panthers our listener suggestion comes from listener Kevin who says ahoy hoy early 90s Bay Area slash LA Punk was my jam your your flipper your no use for a name and Descendants Social Distortion I've only heard of two of those bands Descendants and Social Disortion but I was also Totally obsessed with the Berkeley Oakland Based Jawbreaker Lyrically they were the most interesting Of the bunch I once drove to San Diego on a Friday Pomona Saturday the legendary Jabberjaw R.I.P. Pico Boulevard on a Sunday and then Santa Barbara on a Tuesday to see Them play the one time I saw Nirvana Kurt Cobain Was wearing a Jawbreaker t-shirt I'll say this answer the main way that i know about jawbreakers because they had the greatest t-shirt ever it was the morton salt girl yep walking with in the rain or whatever with just like dumping salt behind her and then i think the catchphrase you know the morton salt one is when it rains it pours but i think the jawbreaker t-shirt said when it pains it roars i didn't know that which is very clever um but i will admit the name jawbreaker was always a little bit impenetrable to me i've i've been on the record on this show talking about how like if a band name sounded aggressive to me in any way i was like i don't think i like it well thanks to listener kevin i actually went and started listening to some jawbreaker today as well and it's very i mean the thing about punk is a lot of it's very catchy like i'm not telling people that i'm reminding myself of that like i think of punk as being like that's scary music But no, it's like two minutes long, super fast and often very catchy.

01:18:55 - 01:19:53 | Speaker 3:

Jawbreaker is a huge blind spot for me, especially since one of my best friends was so into it. Like I've heard Jawbreaker because I literally like this is a very specific memory. Like I never owned any Jawbreaker. I didn't get to know the music well enough to even name any songs. But I do have memories of being at my friend. Well, you know, my friend Paul. I would go to Pauly's house and we'd wait for his parents to go out. And then his parents would finally leave. And then we would just stand, I think literally stand in his garage, smoking cigarettes, drinking Natty Ice, I think is what we were drinking at the time, and listening to Jawbreaker on a cassette tape. And he was just terrible towards his cassette tapes. It was like busted up and everything. And we would just flip it over and over and over again. Just tabs broken on the arm of the case. Hand to God, this is a real memory. He would come on the show and confirm it. That was how I listened to Jawbreaker when I did, which sounds like a good way to listen to Jawbreaker, but sadly, I just don't remember the music. It might have been all the cigarettes and beer.

01:19:54 - 01:20:00 | Speaker 2:

Well, I've kind of had Jawbreaker on my mind because they're touring again, and it's sold out every...

01:20:00 - 01:22:01 | Speaker 1:

everywhere and our friend jessica was on instagram she said i have two tickets to a jawbreaker in seattle i think they're actually playing seattle literally tonight like the show box she said i have two tickets to jawbreaker jessica is like like addy she knows every single genre of music front to back i mean she also is like in charge of the grammys so you know that explains it but um of course she like is totally down with jawbreaker but she was like i have two tickets to jawbreaker i can't make the show i will give these someone if you're really a jawbreaker fan like they're so unbelievably valuable right now there's just sold i was looking at their tour they're you know touring the country uh and they're selling out pretty much every single show in some places they're playing with the smoking popes and they're back now that was another band i was very into and that one came to me via poly as well so that would make sense that you've got jawbreaker the smoking popes and um uh you know a variety of different uh bands kind of teaming up in different places and so anyway they're out on tour and uh kevin says um uh they signed to geffen and critics and fans thought that the last album was way too polished and sold out they got into a fist fight after a show in salem and broke up so i guess they've mended those fences um uh in the uh kind of ultimate punk rock fu they're now doing a reunion tour and playing that entire last album in full 25 years after it came out uh they're playing tonight at the showbox soto and yes I'm going if you could play some Jawbreaker here on my Blurs Day week alright Kevin don't get carried away that would be great everyone should know about Jawbreaker and Kevin suggested a few songs but this one Indictment I thought was pretty catchy so we'll go out with a little Jawbreaker 20 years after or 25 years after this album came out so that's how we'll wrap things up this week thanks for listening thanks for being part of the show we will be back here on Monday with more imaginary radio for you. Until then, have a great weekend. Stay safe, take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

01:22:09 - 01:22:49 | Speaker 2:

I just wrote the dumbest song It's gonna be a sing-a-roll All our friends will clap and sing Renemies will laugh and be pointed It won't bother me But the thoughts Are you thinking I am more concerned With what we're drinking The life was added At the warehouse Saying I'm sorry The road is out You can't keep the blame

01:22:49 - 01:22:56 | Unknown:

It'll be a happy song Gotta rock some other one

01:22:56 - 01:23:27 | Speaker 3:

Ronald, everything looks green Oh, green butterflies Uh, I'm green footprints Uncle O'Grimacy Hello boys, I'm back And I'm painting everything green To match me Shamrock Shakes Shamrock Shakes are back? Yummy Let's celebrate at McDonald's Shamrock shakes, they're a beautiful green The most beautiful green that we've ever seen Shamrock shakes, they're a beautiful green Uncle Oak Grimacy Power out

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