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Righty on lefty, first pitch by Duvall. Swing and that's foul, straight back and off my computer. Oh my goodness. That just happened. So my computer is completely cracked. I tried to put my hand up and stop the baseball and it went straight back and now that one almost came back. And this became one of the worst days I have had in quite some time.

Here's a sentence I never thought I'd say, but if you thought a sausage couldn't really hurt anyone, frankly, think again.

So I'm what's known as a psychic medium, but I'm also clairsentient, which means that I feel my angels. I'm also clairvoyant, which means I can see. I'm also clairaudient, which is most of the time I actually hear. I hear voices, and I also do financial advising.

Listen, I'm not one of those college types that's going to talk your ear off. I bought a balloon, and it doesn't mean I think I'm better than everybody else.

I have a beta sequence I've been working on. Would you like to see it? Alright.

Alright, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Monday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

Is it too early, you got a fish sandwich?

My name is Luke Burbank, I'm your host. Oh la la. Coming to you from Waianae, Oahu, Hawaii.

I'm sorry, I'm tan. I like to be tan. It just feels good.

From the shores of Makaha Beach, up here on the west side of Oahu, we are arriving at episode 3649 in a collector's series.

Let the fun begin.

And even though I'm here in a tropical paradise, I did not miss the Academy Awards last night. No, no, no. I was doing my dutiful research as a podcast co-bro and watching it. Actually, what happened was it was raining here. All of our stuff got rained on and then we came inside to this extremely threadbare 90s condo that we're staying in and put on the Academy Awards because, you know, we were just killing time until it stopped raining. And boy, did things get interesting.

Well, what did everybody think?

If you didn't watch the Oscars last night or have not looked at your phone today, maybe you don't know, but some stuff went down last night, which we will be talking about today on the program. Also, time permitting, yesterday was the four-year anniversary of a time when folks right here in Hawaii thought that there were nuclear weapons, nuclear missiles on their way to destroy them and life as they know it. It turned out to be a false alarm, but it's an interesting story that we talked about back when it happened, and it was four years ago, and yesterday was the anniversary, and here I am in Hawaii, so it's on the show sheet, my friends. something else that's on the show sheet is that today is a special episode this is special this is special because my dear friend and the longest running co-bro of the show andrew walsh is joining us today for the very first time from the sweet cream district of seattle washington

here's my sweet stash let's freaking party good morning my friend welcome uh to the show from

your new digs thank you this is a very disorienting show for both of us today i'm in a brand new studio where um you know everything worked out well i set up my studio over the weekend i needed to make sure that it was going to be in working order for today's show it's great it's an improvement in a lot of ways um over my old studio but uh everything is just different you know like my audio board we had the same exact conversation last time i moved uh homes my audio board for the last four years has been on my left and my left hand controls the audio and and my microphone was on my left and my recorder was on my right now my board is on the right the thing that i do stuff like that that's all with my right hand now the microphone's on the right like none of these are problems it's just different and i'm finding it difficult i'm finding it difficult to talk based on the surroundings around me which is not i got to get over that i dealt with this a little bit when i was broadcasting from cleveland a couple of weeks ago you're good at just going into a new situation you do it all the time and broadcasting like a professional without talking about it constantly whereas i'm very disoriented right now i want to apologize in advance for the

quality of this show kind of because i already did a move this morning andrew where so um we're in this

very like i said kind of pretty down market timeshare condo it was really hard i think maybe because of spring break or something it was hard to find accommodations uh in oahu the accommodations that weren't costing on the order of one to two thousand dollars a night and i was able to find through like verbo or something this this condo which is fine it's serviceable it has a great view of the oceans which is ocean which is very cool or the oceans I guess if you look far enough, you'll look past the Pacific Ocean and right around to, like, the Atlantic Ocean or something. But it's got a nice view. It's cool. It's fine. But I can hear the people in the condo next to us and where this table is that I have my little microphone set up on. It was up against a wall where I was hearing the other people in the next-door condo getting up and kind of, like, making their coffee and talking. And I asked Becca to help me pick up the table And move it all the way across the living room To the other side Which is where I now am You could probably also tell at the top of the show, Andrew I kind of had my whisper voice going

I was making a point of not mentioning it But I do know you well enough That I can tell that you are doing the voice that you do When there is somebody else in the room Or possibly somebody overhearing you Don't get in your head about it Just as I noticed it I you and I are very we've done a lot of these things we've we know each other's I don't know how to not make it sound dirty we know each other's textures and rhythms uh and I could tell that that's what was going on but don't worry about it it sounds fine my

point being that if if I am not just this impervious um robot of award-winning podcasting That can just you can just plop me down anywhere and I will just get to work on in any way sort of ineffective or not affected by what my surroundings are right now. I am deeply embarrassed about other people in this in the Hawaiian princess condominiums overhearing one half of this. But it is what it is. So I guess my point is, yeah, we're both you and I are both kind of slightly out of sorts this morning. So it should be a good program. Yeah, should be a great program.

I also want to, again, I don't know if this is the slam dunk three-point shooter that we need to be starting the conversation with today, but I think it's ironic that we were making fun of or looking back at the age of DSL internet the other day. I really thought it was a thing of the past. You are, right now, probably operating with the lowest speed internet maybe that we've used in the past five to ten years. I am operating on the highest speed internet I've ever seen in my life I was sexting my friends last night The speed results of Our buddy John who works at APM Recently just got fiber optic internet as well And he sent me a screen cap over the weekend of how fast his wifi is I said, wait till you plug that baby directly in Drink directly from the fire hose And then last night I was setting up my studio And I plugged my ethernet in and I have fiber optic cable here too or fiber optic i should say internet and i did a speed test and it was just like it was so i've never i didn't know it could go that fast luke i didn't know it could go that fast i'm like this is gonna be great tbtl is gonna be awesome tomorrow and then i wake up this morning and get an email from you you're like so i'm operating with dsl internet on my end so this is probably gonna be a shit show so far though it sounds good i know i was shocked when

i got into this place and uh looked at the router and realized that it had in what like an old school phone cable going into the dsl port that's that's and of course you know that's fine because i should be uh you know on vacation i should be getting a tan here in hawaii like it's really for most normal people they come here because they're on vacation and certainly this is sufficient to like get on the internet and find out where the nearest outback steakhouse is or whatever people do uh you know when they're on vacation but need to use i think about that

yes let's go to hawaii and go to the outback steakhouse well that's the thing is last night

beck and i ran into a couple of very nice couples a little older than us who were in their in their sunday finest and they said where are you going they said outback steakhouse it's a it's a heavy meal before hitting the beach it's a heavy meal before hitting the beach sure is um so the part of uh of oahu that we're in is not it's not long on restaurants it's kind of so because uh so when we took a little break into the winter games like a month or two ago we came out here to waikiki and that was really fun but it was a certain kind of experience which was you know waikiki reminds me a lot of las vegas i mean literally like the same stores kind of very Thank you.

fancy high-end stuff and you know it's it's a certain scene which is which is cool but but when we left after that trip becca and i both were like that was really fun probably we don't need to go back to waikiki specifically for a while and then i get a call from my bosses at cbs that say oh hey uh can you go to hawaii could you go to the greater honolulu area to do a tv story and i was like yes i can and you know figured oh it'd be fun if becca comes along but we were like let's go somewhere that's not where we just were and so where that is is let's just say extremely local vibrations like the there the couple of little restaurants out here and the the grocery store and just the whole vibe is very much where the people who probably work in waikiki a lot but then have to go live somewhere else because waikiki is prohibitively expensive that's kind of the zone that we're in right now which has its kind of pros and cons uh one of the things it doesn't have though is much in the way of restaurants and so uh these folks were driving to wherever they were driving to to get to the local Outback Steakhouse last night you know

Vives and I when we were um moving into this new place um over the course of the past several weeks we are in an area where and again we were like getting meals late at night uh like after just like you know our hand my hands Luke are so cut up not even cut up my hands are so dry from I think I think the combination of cardboard I think that combination of painting last week and then constantly washing them to get the paint off so that I if I touched something I wasn't getting paint all over that I was like constantly painting and then cleaning the paint off of my hands last week and and then moving all these boxes and wrapping up cables and just doing everything for the past couple of weeks my hands are just splitting I remember my dad's hands used to do this and i didn't understand it but it's just like they're not cuts they're just my hands saying we're broken now we're done we've split it we're splitting at the seams and so my hands just have

like a million little like cuts like that anyway yeah hyper masculine i growing up because my dad you know is a sign painter so his hands were like constantly in some kind of solvent or whatnot my dad probably went through more gojo than anybody who wasn't an auto mechanic do you remember that like the gojo that will get like any kind of grease or paint or whatnot off of your hand like it's it's like five times stronger than just like soap yeah i think so i thought that

is i thought gojo was a brand that made a whole bunch of industrial stuff um i might be wrong

about that is it just one they probably do i just think i remember he had this like a it was like a tin like like it was a tin of this you would scoop it out like imagine like you had a tin of lard or something but instead of being lard it was this pumice this gojo stuff that had pumice in it that you could just like get anything off your hands with yes and i used to love in the basement of his sign shop where he had this big like um kind of commercial sink where he would wash out brushes and stuff i remember after i would do work for him if i had some stuff on my hands grease or paint or something i'd go down there and i would like take a big scoop of the gojo and go to work with it i felt very manly but my point is you're right by the way that is mostly what gojo is

sorry and now they're just owned just for whatever it's worth they're just owned by um purell it looks like everything is just every time you click on gojo it just goes to purell now i think purell bottom but you're right i was thinking of something else when i was thinking about a whole line of

industrial things gojo is the hand cleaner so point to i love the smell of it hey it's a it's it's a w it's a luke w monday um i loved that smell so much but anyway the point is it had the effect of making my dad's hands exactly how you're describing just kind of like rough and dry and what i read in those days as a child as manly you know like i would we would hold hands before dinner we would pray and if you were holding my dad's hands you was just like holding like a catcher's mitt or something and um i andrew have taken a different path in my life where my hands are just soft as a baby's bottom and it's commented upon frequently if anyone ever shakes hands with me or has occasion to brush against my hand they commonly say wow how are your hands so soft and i say podcasting my friend podcasting oh my god i'm we're on so many tangents now i was going to say

something about chain restaurants and how we've been eating at them a lot lately just that's just so you know that's where my thoughts started before that's not anywhere near as interesting as some of the places i want to go right now first of all maybe we can circle back around to holding hands while praying because i have some thoughts on that um but also when you talk about soft hands like this is one of those things i saw in a movie when i was a kid and maybe it didn't totally make sense to me or for some reason i found it so compelling that it lodged itself in my brain and I think about it all the time. And it is the scene from Trading Places. Do you remember the scene from Trading Places about his soft hands, Luke?

I don't, but I feel like this must have to do with it's Dan Aykroyd and Eddie Murphy, right? And Dan Aykroyd is the fancy Wall Street type or something that trades places with Eddie Murphy. So I'm assuming Dan Aykroyd has soft hands. Exactly.

So he's lived a very pampered life, right? And because of this bet that these two rich guys cook up, they try to destroy his life and raise somebody else up. And so somehow they set off a chain of events where he gets booked into jail. Dan Aykroyd does, right? And this is kind of the beginning of him hitting rock bottom. And so he somehow ends up in jail. I think they frame him as John, you know, hiring the services of a prostitute by Jamie Lee Curtis.

Somebody visiting the Sweet Cream District?

Yeah, exactly. I think that's it. Sorry, I'm babbling because, again, you guys, my audio board is on my right. I mean, I'm not going to be that good at talking today, okay? I think everybody can understand that. Anyway, so there's a scene where Dan Aykroyd, the pampered boy, is coming out of jail, right? and he doesn't know what to do all of his assets are frozen he can't get any money like he doesn't know what's going on and somehow he needs jamie lee curtis's help and he has to convince her that he really is the victim of a scam here that really he is a rich man and she i i i believe she is sitting in a car and he is pleading with her through an open window i might have that backwards though he might be the one in the car um but he is telling her no listen i'm not who you think i am I'm a pampered rich guy And she says show me your hands And he gives her his hands And she says wow so soft You've never worked a day in your life have you I believe you And that scene always sticks in my It always sticks in my head when I think about people's Soft hands so Luke you've got to Start washing your hands with Gojo if you want People to respect you is my point

No I I need to keep these hands soft in case I'm ever traded places Well that's true actually what am I saying And I need, this is the, I mean, that's the original biometric touch ID. That was it right there. It was Jamie Lee Curtis.

It was so much nicer when it was Jamie Lee Curtis. Yeah, exactly. Just a gentle touch.

These hands are my passport around the world as a pampered boy. And I need to keep them nice and soft. But anyway, so you were saying, before I completely and totally digressed, you were just saying that your hands are are pretty jacked up oh yeah moving stuff you said you've been eating at chain restaurants right which mixing boards on the other side yeah but

I guess the other thing I wanted to talk about um is you said we would pray at dinner like do you know say grace I assume before dinner which is something my family started doing it was weird for me because it was a late addition to my family like we grew up not saying grace then at some point my dad wanted to start saying grace at dinner which I kind of forgot about until this conversation. And so we would do that. But we were Catholic. So we would when you started to say we would pray before dinner, and you were talking about your dad's hands, I thought you were going to say so I would look at his hands across the table. But no, you were a family that would link hands, you would hold hands. And I will say, as a kid, on the rare occasions that I found myself having to hold hands to pray again, we were Catholic. So that's not quite as big of a thing in in that world but it would happen from time to time a special a special event at mass or something like that and they'd say you know hold hands with the people next to you even if it was your family that shit would make me so so so uncomfortable i completely forgot about that feeling but like just feeling my face getting totally flushed and you know me it's like i'm you know i'm still like that it's like i when i have to take my shoes off at somebody's house you know only worse you got to hold hands with a stranger and pray out loud okay let's put a pin

and the shoe thing because i want to talk about that that came up this weekend for me but the holding hands thing i know i've mentioned this various times on the history of the show but like because we were a family that prayed before every meal and because we held hands on the rare occasion we would eat out we would go to the burger master at northgate mall i would i'd have a pit in my stomach for the whole drive to the burger master and the whole getting the food and sitting down about when it was that we this giant family were going to link hands and pray close our eyes and bow our heads in public yes it may you want to talk about you want to talk about a nervous feeling it was the worst to me i hated it so much it was so embarrassing you know that's i that didn't even

occur to me i guess my family because we did we were we were privileged in a lot of ways and i I think that we would go out to dinner quite a bit and.

we didn't say grace out in public, like, I guess even, I don't know if it, I don't know if it ever entered my dad's head, whether or not that was like, well, why do we, why do we only do it at home? Is it shame? Like, I'm glad he didn't have those thoughts. Uh, I don't, but yeah, like we never did that in public. That never even occurred to me. I've never seen, and by the way, for whatever it's worth, I hope it doesn't come off as disrespectful. If you're a family, if you're listening right now and you are somebody who still does this, like that's your faith, do, do what you want to do but i'm just talking about myself especially as a kid although i would be very uncomfortable as an adult if somebody wanted me to pray in public now i'm not the praying type um but like that would be so embarrassing for me as a kid to even if it wasn't holding hands and praying in public like that in in an outback steakhouse or a burger master well i will tell

you this even though i'm not a person in my adult life who has a faith practice per se i'm not a practicing Christian I actually think that was really kind of cool that we had a moment as a family like you know call it meditation called it like call it holding space like whatever I mean for us it was yeah my dad was I can almost I could probably recite and my sisters like Liz and Sarah and Hannah could probably recite from memory more or less what my dad would say every night because it was kind of the same thing but it was not like a it wasn't like out of the Bible it wasn't like a pre-written thing it would just be him you know thanking the lord for the food and bless this food to our bodies and whatever whatever like it was so we could probably to this day still say most of it because we heard it so many times but the idea that we just took a moment to hold hands as a family and sit quietly and kind of just be together i actually think it was kind of cool um if i you know were to have young kids again i might come up with something that wasn't praying but that was similar to that we're just like hey let's take a moment because I actually remember it very fondly now. What's kind of, I think, kind of sweet is that my dad definitely, my parents are still, you know, practicing Christians, and they very much, I'm sure they pray before every meal still, but because none of us kids are particularly religious anymore, I can tell that my dad always wants to sneak a little prayer in if we have a meal together, but he also kind of doesn't want to impose it on anyone. so he has this really funny like we're just talking and like so first of all before Thanksgiving we all still hold hands and my dad prays and like that's a given so there will be a prayer every Thanksgiving before the meal that's a thing but we'll just be like at my sister Sarah's house it'll be a barbecue and there's all this food being piled up and everyone's just kind of standing around and you can just tell my dad is waiting for a moment when the conversation sort of there's a slight pause and it's before anyone's eaten and he'll just say something like thank you lord for this food um like you know he'll just like like a conversational prayer the fastest drive-by prayer you've ever heard that's just it's just like a prayer of opportunity like he just sees there's like a four second pause in the conversation where he can kind of just like fastball a prayer in there without it being too much or without making everyone hold hands or without stopping everything but it makes him feel better it's like he got a prayer off before the

meal yeah i actually find it kind of adorable me too and i actually i really respect that because it's like because it's i mean i don't know what i'm i don't know what i'm saying here is if i'm accusing other people of not believing in their religion which is obviously not the case but like that just is so much proof oh i got something to tell you about we have a visitor in here in the studio um it's just like it's clear that like no this is very much on your dad's mind it is simply Like, I am very grateful to have food and family right now. Like, that's very, even though I am not a person of faith or somebody who prays, I find that admirable. When I say we have a visitor in here. So can I talk about my cat a lot on today's show? Because it's going to be really hard for me not to. You absolutely can. She has been such a big part of this move for us. So Vives and I, I don't know if I mentioned, we moved this weekend. I'm in a new studio. My audio board is on the right, Luke. Can you get a load of that? I don't know how you're still broadcasting. I don't know how you're pushing through. I'm pushing through. But, you know, we were a little bit, you know, not, I guess maybe a little bit anxious or thinking about worrying maybe a little bit about how our cat professor, Bananas, is going to handle this move. I was telling you last week that she's almost like a different cat these past few months. Our old man cat Theo died a while back. And before he died, Bananas got all the love and she needed from Theo. Right. And now that he's gone, she's become incredibly affectionate with me and Genevieve. She's still a very skittish cat around other people, though, and generally a nervous cat. But I'm worried she's going to stop this recording. But we didn't know what it was going to be like moving into this new house because sometimes cats really go to ground in a new house. Right. They will find the smallest little part of an attic or a basement or a little place where. You can crawl up into the, I don't know, insulation or something. And like when we first moved to Seattle in our very first apartment, we thought somehow Theo had escaped through the walls or that he was trapped in a wall or something. He was just scared. He had been on like a, you know, a plane trip across the country in the cargo hold in a cage. And, you know, and so so when he so when he finally got to our new apartment, he was scared as hell. And he disappeared for like 12 hours or something and scared the hell out of us. But we weren't sure what was going to happen with bananas. And when we brought bananas over here, she sort of did that for a second. We knew exactly where she'd go to hide in this little area where the furnace is. I'm calling it the boiler room because it just has a there's not actually a boiler in there.

That's where you call senior citizens and pressure them into buying penny stocks.

Exactly. When I get done here, Luke, I'm going to walk out of this little office. I'm going to go into the boiler room and I'm going to start I'm going to put two phones up to my head one for each ear and I'm going to be this new house isn't going to pay for itself you got to churn and burn baby exactly but so bananas did like kind of go behind the furnace for a little bit as we kind of assumed she would and we just gave her her space but like she the way what she needs now is affection even though she's a nervous cat it is manifesting itself and she just needs to be around us kind of at all times so like As soon as I came down to my office, she's like, OK, we're doing office time now. I told you last week on the show that she started doing this afternoon thing where she'll come in and watch her movies. I'll put on bird YouTube for her and she'll like hang out with me while I'm doing my post production. But now it's kind of like she I think this house is maybe a little bit much for her right now and she still doesn't feel totally secure by herself. So every time I come in my office Now she comes in here and she's just like And it's just like it just makes my Heart swell so much Lucal I love this cat So much and we're just like in this new phase like right Now she's just up here and she's just like She just won't stop head butting me To get her pet pets So I don't know if it makes the show better Or not but it makes Me it will calms me down a little bit too Because I think I could use a little bit today

She's an emotional support professor

For both of us it goes both ways

You know what Luke who rescued who That's the eternal question That really Makes me I noticed that you Use that picture of That little cat I saw on the humane Society's website oh yeah Yeah the show pick the other day Willow Thimble yeah yeah yeah and Like I part Of you know I was I was Very close to Getting up on a Saturday morning and driving To the Humane Society and seeing if they would Give me a kitten and I didn't Because I knew I had this travel coming up and I didn't Want to do that to them but when I Get home I don't know how long I'm going to be able to hold out Because I really I mean What you're talking about professor reminds me of Like Rudy coming and hanging out in The Burbank Springs Broadcast Center And stuff and how much fun that Was it's fun to have your pet hanging out with you While you're doing the show it really is You would think talking to the co-host of the show would be enough you would think this would be that would be engaging if no but i also need i need a pet as well as an andrew well that's why i like it when you do this

show in person because we can pet each other and scratch each other behind our ears and like you know but when we're doing it remotely like this we need cats to do that we can rub our soft soft

hands together and uh not me man see who's a more pampered boy you have your pampered soft hands and

i have little cracks in mind and i complain about it all the time like a real tough guy

ow my hands hurt all right let's uh take a quick break here and then when we come back we are going to talk about the oscars um it's i really sort of was wondering earlier this week i was like will i ever actually watch the academy awards again just because it used to be a big part of the show you know our friend producer emeritus jen flash andrews is really into the oscars and so it was a whole thing we made food around it and like but it's i don't i don't obsess over it that way and i just kind of it's not something that huge lives very large in my mind and then i watched the oscars yesterday i may never miss another oscars i may watch every single one for the rest of time because it was the most dynamic television i have seen there were two events one of there is an event andrew that's not even being talked about that was also riveting television that happened during the Academy Awards that didn't involve Will Smith and Chris Rock. So we'll talk about all that in a moment. Okay, we have a problem.

We have a problem. Cat time is over. I know you're going to the break, but she just dumped my water all over my desk, so we really need this break.

Oh, no.

Yeah, I gotta go. Let's go to break.

Did she dump it where the mixing board would have been?

Oh, no. Close. I think we're okay. Maybe she knew.

Maybe she... You handle that. We'll take a quick break, and then we'll be back with more TBTL.

It was going so well.

we was hoping for some razzle dazzle razzle dazzle that's right man razzle dazzle

on your mark on your mark get set get set now ready ready go everybody razzle dazzle everybody razzle dazzle

let's thank some dazzling donors these are the awesome generous supporters of the show who are dazzling us with their dough donations making today's episode possible Judy Bornstein in San Mateo california judy says ahoy andrew and luke i want to thank you both so much i am a very long time listener and i find i love tbtl more and more over time god that is exactly what i needed to hear on this monday morning from judy i was thinking about this show the other day andrew and i was just thinking like how is anyone still listening to this i feel like like i like that i get to talk to my friend andrew five days a week but just it shocks me that people still find it entertaining because i just i mean thank god you moved to the sweet cream district and are entering a new phase of life with the professor because i just feel like not very much is happening to us anymore like we're just kind of we're just kind of two 40 something dudes chatting it up five days a week chopping it up if you will and um they hear that listener judy is actually enjoying it more as time

goes on that does my heart good you know what yeah and it does for me too especially today you and I were just talking a little bit uh during the break that um while we're getting set up for the second segment that it's like because of the tech the technical times that we're having and because I'm a little bit out of it like I feel like um I just really wanted today's show to be really really good and I just I feel like I'm kind of fumbling around way more than I wanted to and I'm not feeling great about it and it's nice to know that people like Judy are out there listening every single day and it means something to them she's not in her head about whether or not um you know it's the the best show andrew has ever delivered it's just uh it's like having a friend in her pocket and i like to think that we're her friends in her pocket it just gets

better though andrew because well judy says it's really a joy to have a front row seat to your friendship then judy says since i'm just learning how to make my own podcast i love every time you talk about any of the logistics or technicalities of making recording and editing tbtl this is the perfect show for judy because all we're talking about are the technicalities of making the show

judy check this out i wasn't going to mention this but my audio board it used to be on the left now it's on the right you can hear it you can hear it

Judy says the amount of content that you produce and the great quality is inspiring to me you are my podcasting heroes

all of that

plus you make me laugh on the regular how could I possibly thank you enough well Judy again you have been the exact balm you have been the gojo that's getting the grease that is my self-hatred off of my heart and brain today Judy thank you Judy says as for my request to you Could you give a shout out to my five Audie age 16 who is the sweetest and most wonderful boy that I know He's smart and funny and really a mensch I hope when he is grown up he finds friendships as enduring as yours What up Audie Also Judy I would love to hear what your podcast is all about This is a phrase that's probably not been uttered in the last three years by anyone I'd love to hear what your podcast is about

Hey Judy tell me more about your podcast I'm actually legit interested

Yeah I was assuming That Judy was going to use Some of her time to promote Her show but Judy Hit us up and let us know what you're doing And I would love to check it out Unless you don't want us to check it out Which I also understand That is also a feeling that I can relate to As far as doing this show And then sometimes telling someone No you don't want to listen to it

Yeah, I'm trying to Google it now to see if I can come up with it, but even if I find it, I'm not going to say anything because I played some audio from somebody's YouTube series during a Dazzling Donor message a couple of weeks ago, and I think it maybe made her a little embarrassed. I don't think it's, you know. Really? It wasn't embarrassing tape at all. It was wonderful tape, but, you know, it was me maybe going places that the Dazzling Donor didn't ask me to go, so I will try to respect people's boundaries. Interesting.

I just assume because that donor that that you're referencing has, I believe, much many more YouTube subscribers than we have. So I assumed that they were it was I was all very outward facing and that we were in a way helping. But maybe we weren't.

She has what they apparently call in the air of social media an audience. I'm still looking into what that is.

Maestro.

On your mark. On your mark. We've also got to thank Lorraine Hirakawa of Puyallup, Washington. Puyallup, one of those test words, one of those test case words. Every state has them. It's a way of establishing, is someone a longtime local or someone new to the state?

like the time I was pre-interviewing a farmer in the Willamette Valley and I said the Willamette Valley and there was just a long pause and then we just kept the conversation going and then years later I realized what that long pause meant and it was that he was talking to a dum-dum

I mean how how would you know like if you would have dropped me into where you grew up in Ohio what's Geauga County is that the name of that Geauga County is one yep not that you lived there but i would i would never know how to say that place if i were not you know if i if i were just had moved there so um i'm sure lorraine knows all about how to pronounce the town she lives in puyallup lorraine says do you think if i write a one minute dazzling donor message for 15 years it makes up my 15 minutes of fame oh 60 seconds at a time yes this is like my friend robert smith's approach to running the new york city marathon which is every year he was going to just run one mile of it until he had done 26.2 miles and then he gets the little sticker yes that's kind of lorraine's approach to her 15 minutes lorraine says how about just playing my favorite drop have a great show what you do is so important as a middle school slash high school principal i say this in my head every morning it's especially good at making me not call in sick take care and power out oh that's interesting so Lorraine this is self talk for Lorraine because Lorraine is an educator and what Lorraine is doing is important and Lorraine sometimes has to remind herself of that so that she doesn't call in sick because she'd rather just stay in bed for the day

and she does it in Maria Bamford's voice sweetie have a good show what you do is so important

so there you go Lorraine what you do is so important and I'm just talking about donating money to our podcast also I mean, the teaching thing. Yeah. Yeah. But the children are the future and everything. But you got two 45 year old dudes that need to talk to each other five days a week for their job. And that is important. What you do, dazzling us with your donation is very important. Thank you. We would not be here without you. hello and welcome to top story okay i know we have to talk about the oscars that's the almost literally the only thing anyone cares about on this monday morning but i do want to just tell you quickly andrew you mentioned in passing that taking your shoes off when you go to someone's house thing and i think you and i both have the same feeling with that which is a i understand why people want to have that i also know that culturally that's a thing Certainly in some cultures It also makes me feel Infantilized I don't like being in my socks In public basically Is what it comes down to

I don't like socializing that way Yeah

Yes That's right I don't know why I need my feet To be covered with shoes To feel like I can socialize normally But I do I could go bare feet Potentially if we were like On the beach If we were at like a A beach bar And Or like a swim I don't know i could i could go bare feet i can go shoes what i can't go is socks and now we're just having a normal grown-up conversation but we're all in socks yeah and i and i know that you and i like

i'm exactly the same way obviously i um and i know that you and i are the outliers here too right i don't even have a real argument to make for it other than it makes me uncomfortable i don't know

to tell you so i show up at this filming location yesterday uh here in hawaii at the home of this family that uh is like one of the highest earning youtubers families that it's the the son who most of the stuff revolves around is this young young guy named ryan kaji and his mom luann and his dad sean and then he's got these unbelievably adorable twin sisters and everybody in the family is just as adorable as can be and i went over to their incredibly nice house in the shop i won't say specifically part of why they moved to hawaii was for a little more privacy so i won't give away too much but let's just say they live in an unbelievably nice home that and so i show up and the film crew is already there and they've got everything lit and i start walking up the stairs into where we're going to do the film and i look around and i notice everyone has their shoes off and i realize it is a shoes off house so now imagine how i was saying i don't like socializing with my shoes off how about doing a national television interview in your socks how about that and it gets better somehow in my haze of packing on friday night i did not pack enough socks for the trip in fact i didn't pack any socks i think what i did was i made a pile of them darned them or wait darning is when you fix socks right like you fix a hole in your socks i that's what do you call when you're just pairing them you know when you kind of roll two socks together to match? Would you call that pairing them? I think what I did was I pulled a bunch of them out of the dryer, I paired them, and then I forgot to put that stack of socks into my suitcase. So I realized yesterday morning that I only had the pair of socks that I had worn on the airplane, and I also wanted to go for a jog yesterday. And so anyway, I hatched a plan. I had to swing off to a Target and get some more socks, which I did. And thank God, because I was considering just going to the shoot, wearing my shoes without socks, because I thought, who's going to notice? Oh, wow. Everyone. Turns out everyone. It turns out that would have been the worst possible time. And I almost did it because I was running kind of behind. I just thought, whatever, you know, I just won't have socks on. And I'm wearing jeans and, you know, Nikes. And no one's going to notice. It'll be fine. i would have been barefoot for this interview which would have been a weird move so uh i guess the point is if you think you might need socks in a situation you probably will go ahead and get the

socks because i dodged a real bullet when i i don't think we talked about this on the show but and again like i i realized because i've told this story to several other people actually this was just part of a story that i told other people but then when i got to this part they'd stop me and say wait what because I'm so weird about this but at my parents house like some areas some areas are shoe areas and others aren't um and I had this one pair of shoes that I was bringing that are um they're like kind of they were good indoor shoes right and I keep them clean and I'm like okay for the most part I was keeping my shoes off at my parents house um but when it was time to do TBTL and I was down in my dad's little office the place where I was set up and where i where i sleep when i'm visiting i was like i'm not doing tbtl in my socked feet like i can't do that that's not professional i would put on my shoes to do the show i don't think i mentioned that to you but that is that's my compulsion so yeah like and so there you are around a bunch of people in in this family's home with your shoes off doing a shoot and again i know i know we're

the weird ones here but i i feel you bro yeah it felt i just felt like a child i mean i guess maybe that helped put me on the level of the children i was interviewing so maybe it ended up working out but i just was like of all of the times to it was actually quite charming though because the the dad who along with his wife owns this spectacular home that youtube built for them i don't mean literally youtube but i mean the money they've made from youtube when i realized i'm coming up bounding up the stairs with my with my trainers on trying a new thing where i call my nikes trainers and then i went oh is this a shoes off house and then he apologized he was like yeah if you don't mind or i forget how he said it but he made it i appreciated that he was very gracious about it and was almost like kind of apologizing to me about putting me out which you know he was but also it's his home and he gets to set the rules i just at least the vibe was good as far as like you know he was recognizing kind of subtly that like for some people and he was talking to the right one shoes off in a house it makes you feel a little weird yeah a couple of things one thing

I just remembered is that that was a reason I didn't like ball pits as a kid kids loved jumping in the ball pits but it was I was always just thinking like these are just balls that have just been under every child's socks for the past like 20 years it just grossed me out I just saw it as a sock ball pit secondly when we were looking for homes you know over the past couple of months and And, you know, they you've sold homes before in your life, Luke. And I remember right as you were selling your Mount Baker house. Wait, do I have the neighborhood right? Yeah, that's Mount Baker. We had a little event at TBTL and you had bought a bunch of those little things that you can slide over your shoes. A little like what would you call those things? Those little blue booties. Yeah, like booties that you can put over your shoes for folks like for us and folks so that we could do the show in your house right as you were selling it. But the thing is, as we were, like, doing the tour and looking at these houses, like, yeah, like, some houses had, like, a half-hearted effort of keeping those, but they were just, like, used ones, and none of them fit. One house, I tried to put those on, and they just ripped. My foot just ripped right through it because it was too small, and it had already been worn a bunch. I'm just like, is this better, like, me trying to put my – so I was just, like, you know, looking at all these houses.

in my socks as most people were but that's a weird thing too I don't remember that I remember going on tours of houses when I was a kid when my parents bought a house I think I was in like eighth grade I dreaded it I hated looking at houses as a kid I remember just being like guys just buy a house I don't care whatever house you buy I'm gonna be I'm gonna be in eighth grade I'm gonna be miserable and pimply and awkward like just get a damn house I don't want to look at them anymore um but anyway i don't remember i don't remember having to take shoes off but i guess i mean it makes sense you're looking at these houses that are really really expensive and people are trying to sell it they don't want just a bunch of strangers tracking shit all over their you know freshly cleaned house that they have staged i guess i feel kind of bad that i

made everyone wear those booties i feel like maybe it was because i didn't own the house technically

anymore or something that's true i think you but you provided the right thing you provided a bunch of clean new booties probably of various sizes like the problem is like whoever is staging these houses they don't have like they should have new boxes of those things however many it takes it's part like we pay a lot in all kinds of fees and closing costs like make that part of the deal spend a hundred dollars as you're selling your overly inflated house like just spend a hundred dollars on i don't know 10 boxes of various sizes booties and let people use it don't just have this like gross basket of half ripped summer like wet from the rain booties at the basket

in a basket at the door when you walk in i will say that if i am looking at a house and i have to be in my socks i would be i'm 60 less likely to make an offer on that house because the period of time that i'm in the house in my socks i want to get out of the house i want to get back into my shoes i want to get back into grown-up times and so you doing yourself a disservice as the homeowner or real estate agent if you don't have enough booties sometimes i like to go look at houses just for funsies not because i'm in any financial position to buy a house right now or whatever but like uh becca and i went and just kind of looked at this house in portland that i had seen on redfin that i just thought was interesting it was like a old mid-century house that had been totally untouched. You know what I mean? It was like some people who probably had gotten much older and maybe either passed away or moved into retirement living or something. And the house was just like a perfect time capsule. It had like an intercom. It had every whiz-bang feature of 1966. And it was all immaculate. It was just the most technically advanced house you could have had in 1967. And everything was still like worked. And, like, the bathrooms were those, like, really kind of cool, like, pink tile bathrooms that I think are actually really charming if they've been maintained. So I just wanted to go see this house as a, just to see it. And so we did. And it was one of those things where you had to take your shoes off, so I did. But the whole time I'm walking around sock, or in my socks, looking at random strangers who are measuring things with tape measures and stuff, I just wanted to get out of there because I was in my socks. Now, again, I wasn't going to buy the house anyway. Although I did feel weirdly competitive with the people who were going to buy the house. Like, I felt kind of mad at everybody else who was there looking at the house. Like, didn't they understand that this was the house that I want to buy in my fantasy?

Yeah. You know, it's funny. I wouldn't. I have so many questions about this. And I guess we have to talk about the Oscars. But so one thing I was going to say is once I, you know, after the first house or maybe a house or two, like, I stopped thinking about it. I got to say, and maybe there was just so much on our mind as we're looking at these houses that I didn't really get in my head too much about it. I was able to, like, I think make I think we make informed decisions. I had some questions for you about this house. Do you know what the list price was? Can you say why not? Right.

Of the house. It was OK. By Portland standards, I think it was pretty reasonable. I want to say it was maybe six seventy five, six hundred and seventy five thousand dollars.

Oh, wow. Wow. Yeah, that's great. I thought it was going to be right. I thought it was going to be – I mean, I thought – the way you described it, I thought for sure it would be over a million. No. No, that's amazing.

And by the way, what a world where you and I are both pleasantly surprised that something is only $700,000.

The only other thing that I want to say about that is, like, you know, I ended up enjoying – because I hated looking at houses so much growing up, and I'm the type of person who doesn't like transition. I just like to – I just like to settle in, right? Like, now that we're here, all of our stuff is in our new house. I'm really looking forward to, like, we're not living in two different places. We don't have some belongings in one house and some belongings in another house. Like, now, like, I can just, like, spend time kind of – our house is absolutely chaotic right now with boxes and furniture all over the place. But at least it's all in one place, and now it's just, like, one mug at a time. Everything can just be put in its place, right? And that's the mode I like to be in.

And when it comes to making the decisions, like, do you want to live here or there? Like, I don't live on Redfin or whatever apartment Hunter Genevieve used to live on. Like, Genevieve and you are both looking at properties all the time, even when you're not in the market for one. I have no desire to do that. And also that feeling that you said you had watching people like kind of using tape measures to, you know, get a size out this house that is just a fantasy for you. you have no intention of buying it at all but you had that kind of bad feeling seeing other people there like i know that feeling too and that's why like the idea of that house you just described to me sounds amazing and i have no desire to be in there because it'll just like i'm not like an acquisitive or um maybe that's the wrong word i'm not somebody who i think spends a lot of time being jealous of other people's homes like i i know some people i've known some people in my life who are a little bit exhausting because if they go to somebody else's house who's maybe richer than them they will be so obsessed it seems like they they can't be comfortable there because they're constantly comparing it to their own life I don't think I'm like that but I don't love the idea of going into a place that would basically be my dream house but I know but I'm only there to to look at it but know that it would never be mine and it's not even supposed to be mine like that doesn't sound appealing to me it sounds like torture sort of well that was

that was five percent what i was feeling because again i just wanted to go check it out um because i wanted to see what the neighborhood was like i wanted to figure out why this place was again reasonably priced that's wild yeah that would be a really cheap price for a house but um but yeah And I was talking to Becca about this when we were driving away. I was like, I felt resentment against everyone else who was in there trying to buy that house, even though I'm not going to buy it. I couldn't buy it. It wouldn't make sense for me. But that goes for me very much to my super possessive ways. Like once I saw the intercom system and once I was like, oh, wow, this basement is actually really huge and there's like all kinds of cool rumpus room. you know well as i started to just i was i was sort of you know i was intrigued by various elements of the house then my brain went to now i must possess this and no one else can possess it and then if you're in here and you're walking around with your spouse you know and talking to the real estate agent and like i said measuring things and like talking quietly to your partner about an offer you might put in for some reason those people all became my enemies in that moment

Which is totally nonsensical Dude you remember I sent you a photo of this house I think it was the second house we looked at When we just started this process And by the way our home buying process was a lot quicker Than I think we thought it was going to be Because Genevieve was like very aggressive As she is with these things Like she's just a She's a real get her done kind of person Luke Which is a phrase that I'm trying to coin Bully offer Two words

Bully offer

But you know

That's where you turn a pit bull loose in the house with the homeowner and you don't call the dog back until the homeowner

has signed the house until they accept your offer um but anyway you know we knew this was going to be a long process and that we were going to be or we assumed it was going to be a long process but we also knew that we were going to be learning a lot during this process because we had never done anything like this before and it's very complicated um and so while we were visiting our first couple of houses we're just kicking the tires not of the house but of the process right kind of learning the contours of this thing how do things work and so do you remember the second house we looked at we knew it was we weren't going to get this house it was a complete tear down like it was it was just such a tear down like nobody was looking it was in Wedgwood and nobody was looking at it to live there but Vives and I were like I don't know maybe like we we don't have a lot of money like do we need to buy a tear down and see if over the course of 30 years we can make it a place that we love you know and we were just like keeping our minds as open as possible given the market and so we go to this place and um again we don't even really know the routine very well at this at this point we're just like we're just starting to get to know the market and so vives and i got there a little bit early so we're in our car um waiting for our realtor to show up and um we're sitting outside this house and vives and i are just you know having a nice conversation who knows about what probably about buying a house most likely um but in my side view mirror i see these people who are all in the front yard with tape measures i think there were maybe two different parties there and they're with tape measures and they're measuring the yard and i know i don't want this house i mean i'm quite sure that this is not going to be the home that we move into right but as we're talking i just have this memory i mean it was only a few few weeks ago i guess but i'm just sitting there staring daggers at these people via my side view mirror just

thinking the gall the gall of these people to be measuring my yard it's like it's like you're you were going on an internet date with someone and you don't even the date could be going well or not but then you just see alerts popping up on their app of other people trying to date them and it's like hey hands off what the heck oh speaking of hands off andrew hey what the heck we got there Speaking, yeah, you're right. Speaking of both. I mean, it was a breathtaking moment in the Oscars at the Academy Awards last night when Will Smith went up and slapped Chris Rock because of a joke that Chris Rock made about Jada Pinkett Smith's hair. He called her G.I. Jane 2, and of course, I think like most people, I did just so happen to be watching it in real time because, as I mentioned at the top of the show, it was raining, and so we came inside just to wait that out, and then I was like, well, let's turn on the Oscars. It's weird when the Oscars start at like 2 p.m., which is like when they started in Hawaii.

Right, right, yeah.

because we're so far behind the east coast um so we're watching it and like most people i first of all completely thought it was a bit i thought it was like a fake slap because the react the chris rock kind of reeled back so comically seemingly comically to me that i just thought oh this is a really silly bit that they've cooked up then the when i knew that something really was going on was when it was muted when the audio went out because i know i've watched enough live television to know that when the audio goes mute like that someone is swearing and they don't mess around they don't just like try to like surgically resect each swear word they just hit some big old mute button and then just like and then they you know you could see will smith is still talking and it's still muted and i was like this is not a bit this is actually happening i still i still thought that the the the slap was it took me a long time to understand that he had physically actually made contact with chris rock um but it was it was one of the most it was probably the most shocking thing i can think of happening on live television at least in the context of something like the oscars that i've ever seen in my life so let me tell you about

my experience of watching this too or or or seeing it i guess i should say because you know obviously I wasn't watching the Oscars I don't watch it any year and right now we don't have cable anyway but I happened to I mean I was sitting here setting up my studio and I just happened to open Twitter right at the moment this happened Luke I know that because I'm seeing like tweets from people that are just like 45 seconds old that says like I remember Chris Hayes tweeted like wait that was legit uncomfortable or something like that and I see other people saying like did that just happen what just happened i'm like okay what is happening right now so i stay on twitter and then the updates start coming in and people are like i don't think that's a bit and the very first i still haven't seen the edited or i guess like the kind of like the the version with the audio cut out because the first thing i saw was somebody uh uploaded video of them they were just like kind of using their phone to record their television but they were in australia and they were like here's the australian unedited version of what just happened And at this point, I can sort of tell that it's not a bit. And also, I'm hearing Will Smith, you know, he gets up. I didn't actually hear the joke. That's the one thing of all of that. I've watched a bunch of footage of this now, but it all begins with him walking up and slapping. But I mean, slap sounds like, oh, it's like kind of open, open palm slugging Chris Rock. Like that's where the video footage began for me. And then storming down and then sitting in his seat and screaming profanities. you keep my wife's name out of your bleep and mouth um and it's so rageful and he says it twice and it's so so rageful i found it very upsetting i saw some other people saying like that was that was well i guess i just mentioned that people were tweeting that in the moment but like even like kind of the next day people were saying like that kind of triggered me a little bit i'm not saying that that triggered me but it was it was so shocking and upsetting and coming to see that that real amount of rage it's so rare that i see a um that i see a real life fight and when you do it is it i i don't have a a description of the physical feeling it gives me but um it's unlike any other feeling i have and it's greater than concern but concern is a big part of it and i was watching this and i was like oh my god and i watched it a few times in a row just to kind figure out what was going on. And it was so upsetting. And I saw some people almost immediately tweeting that it might not have been that specific joke. And I'm sure you you might have been going here with the conversation too. But really, this might have been just like Will Smith having a lot of pent up rage about a joke about Jada Pinkett Smith that Chris Rock made at the Oscars that he hosted back in 2014 and here's the Andrew Walsh centering himself in this story do you remember when Vives and I went to see that kind of quasi secret Dave Chappelle show in LA when we were living out there and he started bringing out all these guests that we did not know were going to be there and they

were super famous like Hannibal Burris and Chris Rock And it was like, I don't know, maybe a month before the Oscars and Chris Rock was basically at this show in L.A. unannounced, just kind of working out, like working out some of his Oscar material. And it was a real sticky wicket because it was the kind of hashtag Oscars so white year. And a bunch of people were boycotting the Oscars, including Jada Pinkett Smith. And then Chris Rock made. Do you remember this? And were you were you reading about this today and going back like Chris Rock?

It's a really good joke actually by the way

I'll hand it off to you here to fill in the details But it was back in 2014 or 2015 Probably 2015 And Jada Pinkett Smith boycotted the Oscars Because of this And then Chris Rock made this joke Which I'll let you tell Luke

It's a little ribald But he basically said Because Jada Pinkett Smith was not nominated for anything And was not I think she was currently starring in a television show And Chris Rock said something to the effect of, you know, Jada Pinkett Smith boycotting the Oscars is sort of like me boycotting Rihanna's panties. We're both not invited to that.

Exactly, right.

Like, you know, it's one thing if Jada Pinkett Smith is nominated for an Academy Award and she chooses to not go to the Oscars, that's a real boycott. But like, you know, I mean, and that's the joke that Chris Rock made. I think that's a pretty funny joke, actually. But yeah, there's some speculation that this is like Will Smith has been seething about this for for a long time. Although what's interesting is that when the joke that Chris Rock made last night, it's such a it's such a dumb joke. Like, it's just not even funny. It's also like a outdated, like, you know, Jada Pinkett Smith is wearing her hair very short. And he says G.I. Jane, too. It's like that sounds like a reference you and I would make in the sense that most of our pop culture references are from about 23 years ago. and no longer of interest to people like and chris rock is so funny it's just i think that was a must have been a total ad lib on his part the other thing i think is is interesting about this is that right away of course beck and i both kind of went to our phones and the internet was saying well you know this this joke was inappropriate by chris rock because of jada pinkett smith's well-known um kind of battle with alopecia which is you know with a kind of spontaneous hair loss and i immediately thought i don't know how well known it might be now maybe that is something she deals with but i here's what i think we can all agree it wasn't well known enough that chris rock knew about it because chris rock is not going to make that joke if he knows that jada pinkett smith has been dealing with something where she maybe wears her hair short um because that's her best option considering what's going on with her alopecia like I'm you know I don't like watch what the red table or something Jada Pinkett Smith has some kind of TV YouTube show she does I don't watch those shows I don't monitor her Twitter I don't know how public she has been with whatever the reason might be that she has chosen to wear her hair very short but I can say with a great deal of certainty that Chris Rock did not get the memo I do not see Chris Rock walking out there and then just making a snide joke about someone who he knows is dealing with anything that's medical and kind of beyond their control yeah no so and i don't know if i expect will smith to do that calculation in his head in that moment but it was interesting to see that initially chris rock makes this gi jane joke and will smith is laughing and then he looks over at jada pinkett smith who's kind of just doing a hard eye roll she does she kind of looks like she's like really man but but she's also not like she doesn't have the look on her face is not similar to the look we would later see on Will Smith's face like you said when he was sort of yelling at Chris Rock that was I've been in that mode that that Will Smith was in I've seen other people in that mode I mean that is pure like triggered you know like sort of lizard brain like you it's fight or flight that that is that is like

someone in a completely emotionally triggered state and there is a there's a physical look to it a kind of just like you said looking at Will Smith in that moment I know exactly what he's emotionally feeling like I mean I can't know exactly because I'm not him but I I know what it's like to be in that sort of a rage and you at that point have lost control if you're wired like I guess Will Smith is and to some degree like I am So, You thought you were going to center yourself in the story, Andrew, but I've decided to make it more about me. But, like, I think, though, ultimately where we have to land with this is it is not okay to physically assault someone over a joke, even if it's in poor taste, even if it is a joke that feels like it's at the expense of someone you love. I think we can all agree that you cannot hit people over a joke. And what I also feel like I've been kind of seeing was the stages of response to this, of reaction to this, were total shock. Oh, my God, did that just happen? Then people kind of being somewhere in the middle because, honestly, when Will Smith got up and then he won the Oscar and then he gave the speech and he was crying, it was a very human moment. I don't know if you actually watched that, Andrew, but it was intense. I mean, it was unbelievably intense because you could see Will Smith trying to process that he's both winning his first Academy Award, which is an incredible thing, but he's also done this other extreme behavior that is so, I mean, out of the norm of anything that's ever happened in the history of this television program and whatever. he's trying to process all of it he's crying he was being very real up there which kind of endeared for a few minutes it kind of endeared him to me a little bit i even turned to becca and i was like boy this is he's really trying to work this out right now work through this which was humanizing in a way like he just seemed like a very flawed person who lost it and is now trying to sort of pick up the pieces like over the course of 20 minutes of his career and life but then later as i reflected on it and i read more kind of people looking at it and i think where we mostly landed was yeah but you also still cannot hit people you cannot assault people because they made a joke and i wonder like long term what the take on this is going to be like it what i guess what the consensus is going to be if it is going to be wasn't that crazy when that thing happened wasn't that i don't want to use i'm trying to not use crazy so much to describe things that aren't actually around diagnosed mental illness but wasn't that unbelievable and wild when that happened but it's just kind of funny i saw people writing like you know there's 100 going to be a super bowl ad with will smith and chris rock in like two years where it looks like they're really mad and arguing but they're really just arguing about if mounds or almond joys are better and then it cuts to like it cuts to a package that's like half mounds half almond joy that's the new

product left twix right twix exactly like there was also you know um some reports this morning that uh that will smith and chris rock had kind of made up or something or had settled things backstage or somewhere else who knows i just wonder if like long term the take on this is going to be wasn't that an outrageous thing or is it going to be will smith assaulted somebody in front of the entire world and nobody did anything about it yeah man by the way i just want one thing

for the record the reason i handed off that joke to you was not because i was uncomfortable uh retelling it it was just that i was on one of my like jags where i felt like i was talking a mile a minute for like five minutes and i just wanted to hand the microphone back to you so i just don't want people to think that like i was scandalized by the word panties um although i am somewhat scandalized by the word panties um in all fairness but um now i feel like i'm gonna do it again because I have so many things to say I did not see the moment again I didn't see the joke that Chris Rock said um I had read what it was and so I missed that moment that you're describing where you said that Will Smith at first is almost laughing or about to laugh but then he looks over at his wife and he's almost and I'm not trying to I'm not trying to tell you I'm not trying to get you to tell me what's going on in his head because that's unfair but you almost took it as like he looked over and saw his wife's reaction and that's what upset him he realized that she might be upset

that's sort of what it looked like in real time and in a lot of the like just kind of rewatching the clip a bunch and again it could have been that he the look on his face could have definitely not matched what was going on in his interior you know sometimes when it's in a moment like that somebody might laugh outwardly because they're inside they're just trying to process so maybe that's what was going on for him but it certainly looked like he wasn't like he didn't hear the joke and bolt out of his seat and sprint to the stage it was like he heard the joke he sort of chuckled or had kind of a weird grin on his face of hearing this then he kind of looks over and and then that's when something suddenly changes in his mind and he strolls up the stage very purposefully towards chris rock that's

interesting because i was like you know i don't think i don't think i need to zapruder this um but it was the uh it was the part that i was like really kind of my it was such an unreal thing to happen that my brain just couldn't process it so i did spend a great deal of time last night sort of thinking like well what was this something that had did it really go back to that 2016 oscars joke i looked it up it was 2016 did it really go back to that 2016 oscars joke that chris rock told and will smith had been stewing about it and maybe even had said before hey if you ever make a joke about my wife again i'm gonna i'm gonna slug you or something i was going through all these scenarios like did will smith make it known to chris rock somehow that like that type of humor is off the table and and chris rock just decided to try just try push his boundaries on that you know what i mean and actually try i'm like i had all and i'm not saying that that makes sense or that i read that i'm just saying my brain was like trying to figure out like and maybe because i'm not the type of person who gets into physical confrontations um Unless unless you're an Uber driver on St. Patrick's Day and you're jerking me around in the streets of St. Paul, then I will yell at you through the window glass of your car. But it was just really hard for me to figure out what was going on. But the way you tell it now and you have you having seen more context of it, it makes me think that no, it probably really was just in the moment. And maybe, you know, there were conversations. I mean, maybe they as a couple just really do resent and dislike Chris Rock because of past offenses or whatever. And this was just a moment that that he part of me was like thinking, like, could it have been like partially premeditated? Like, could Will Smith has gone to the Oscars thinking if he pulls this shit again, if Chris Rock pulls his shit again, I'm going to smack him. But it sounds like that doesn't make really any sense. I didn't watch his acceptance speech, but I was reading about it and everybody said it was really good. i think that because he nailed that speech i don't know if that's the right word to use there because maybe it was really heartfelt but he's also an actor so maybe he was also partially acting but like that is what's going to define the history here right like i think if he doesn't get to talk if he doesn't win that award and he doesn't have a speech we might look at that moment differently if he bungles it we might look at that differently um but i guess my question to you luke is do you think that he should have been able to give that speech do you think that like do you think that what wouldn't there have been other actors who would have been ejected was he allowed to stick around because we love will smith so much i think he was allowed to stick around because

nobody knew what to do yeah and even at that level of preparation and and fame and and all of the you know money that is spent and and and person hours that go into the creation of the academy awards i don't think there was any contingency for what if one of the nominees slaps one of the people who's presenting an award i just think nobody knew what to do and so absent anyone making a call of like what are they going to go handcuff will smith yeah nobody wanted to do that and so yeah they just let things continue on because again i just literally think no one knew what to do um but i also to the question of his speech that he gave it was heartfelt i don't think he was acting but i also think it raises some real questions because the way he framed things was first of all he brought god into it which is i don't know it was interesting to me because he was like i'm being called by god to protect my family so he framed this whole thing really as i just slapped chris rock because i am at a point in my life where protecting my family matters to me which sets up i think kind of a false system or a false i don't know dichotomy or whatever it would be called where in order to defend your family you have to assault people who have said something snarky about a member of your family like he was framing it as if like it was it's it was you know the walking dead and he and his family he and the pinkett smiths are barricaded in their home in malibu and the zombies are coming and he's shooting the zombies like that's defending your family that's how he was framing it as if that was like really what he did was he lost his cool he slapped someone he shouldn't have slapped but then again so his speech his speech was was intense and emotional but also i think some of it was kind of bullshit personally

Mm hmm. Mm hmm. And also, I mean, I feel like we just need to mention this because some people might think that we're missing the boat. Although, again, I was not following this whole drama very closely at all. But I mean, it was maybe a couple of years ago that Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith went through the very, very public like kind of airing of their relationship and some infidelity, I think. And then also, you know, maybe they're in an open relationship or were or are. I'm not sure about all that stuff, but all of that was stuff that is.

incredibly personal that will and jada like went through very publicly right and so it just must that must play into this the intensity of this moment as well yeah i mean again it's adjacent

to all of this but it sort of hangs over it which is and i don't i don't know them and i don't know enough information to really like sum it up in some tidy or accurate way but all i can say is yeah it was definitely occurred to me that this is extra intense because of the fact that they're in a relationship that has been lived very publicly and that some of the parts of it that you know are let's just i guess you would say non-traditional or or if there was infidelity like it's just like well let me put it this way i don't feel like will smith's energy seems a hundred percent regulated yeah exactly like it's just like all this stuff going on and maybe this is just the effect of being you know one of the most famous people on planet earth and jada pinkett smith is also extremely and their kids now are really accomplished musicians in terms of like creating music that is wildly popular particularly willow smith like half of the songs i hear on tiktok that i'm like this is so good and then i like look it's like oh that's a willow smith song so i mean the intense spotlight of the fame of this family has to have some sort of like effect as well but it just the whole thing is really intense and and kind of weird and yes the fact that like they publicly were churning their guts of their relationship out into the world for the last couple of years doesn't make this less charged yeah as an event um you can

imagine the things that and i'm not trying to defend like i i'm with you like that i'm i'm really still struggling I'm still struggling with and I I feel like I'm about to do what about ism which is there anything worse than that but like I feel like there are other people in Hollywood who would have been removed if they had done this and I don't know who that is and I don't have any examples at my fingertips and maybe we don't need to search for them honestly maybe this isn't a constructive place to take this conversation but I do feel like well first of all if it was somebody who had a more of a reputation for doing shit like this you know what i mean if you have somebody who's a bit more of a wild card and maybe has violence in their past or something if they but but are still part of you know you know still part of the hollywood elite enough to be at the oscars um i i could see a scenario where they do you know they don't put it on they make sure the cameras aren't on it but they ask somebody to leave now whether or not that person would be in the front row you know and a nominee for best actor like you know maybe well that's the thing if you're not in if you're not a nominee for best actor you probably don't have those seats where you can get up on stage and smack somebody so quickly so i don't know i also feel like i i doubt

this is what happened but i feel like probably the most appropriate person to make the call as if will smith can stay there or not is chris rock like because i read somewhere that chris rock declined to press charges oh yeah um so i guess you know there was some conversation where someone or the lapd asked would you want to oh one of the things that was pretty wild was the lapd put out a statement at some point to like variety that was saying we haven't yet been able to assess all like the facts of the situation so we don't we can't say anything about this and Nicole Byer on Twitter was like y'all don't have a TV like the facts can be assessed pretty clearly if you have a television and you were watching it but I guess Chris Rock did decline to press charges to me it's sort of like ultimately Chris Rock is the person who's wronged in this and if he says I he to me it feels like he gets to make the call as to if Will Smith gets to stay there in the building and also if there is you know legal action afterwards etc it feels to me like chris rock is the person who was harmed in this and so he it's kind of his call to me um i don't know if that's exactly how it always works because sometimes maybe someone is harmed and they choose not to press charges but we as a society say the charges will still be filed because we as a society need to have there be punishment for this action um but in this case you know i i again i doubt that anyone was like asking like chris rock backstage what should we do about this but i do feel like he has probably he would potentially have the most say of anyone

I guess if I can jump in for a second though but I mean even take out the slap you have somebody at the Oscars who's screaming obscenities angrily at the presenter and like I don't think that Chris Rock is the only person who can make the decision about whether or not somebody is disrupting this the biggest production right of the year in Hollywood yeah I know that's a good call to that was it's it's wild that that was that's not even the thing anyone's really talking about was that someone was screaming the F word at somebody who was trying to present. Like the other thing from last night that I couldn't take my eyes away from was the presentation of, I think it was the best, it was the end of the night, it was the basically Oscar for best picture, which is of course always the last thing. and i believe that that one is the producers accept it which is always kind of funky because you've had like these famous actors and actresses and directors and all these kind of people you sort of know winning throughout the night and then you get to the biggie and it's like it's like seven people you've never seen before um because they and not to belittle the how much work production is but anyway it was the best picture and it was lady gaga and liza minnelli and the thing is it was Liza Minnelli appeared to be very very confused up there um she actually said I believe she said something like I'm so confused they had some um cute like they had a couple of they had a script for her that she was holding in her hand they obviously also had the teleprompter and then you had Lady Gaga and you know Liza Minnelli is a Hollywood legend and an entertainment legend and was i mean she was amazing in a lot of things but i her portrayal of lucille too uh in arrest development is just so wonderful and great so anyway i love liza minnelli and obviously lady gaga loves her obviously everybody in the room loves liza minnelli but this was a moment that was really it made me wish that somebody would have intervened and kind of said like this is not going to be something that is great for liza minnelli based on whatever is currently going on for her she just just appeared to be pretty overwhelmed and confused up there and then really what i was fascinated by and really touched by was like how lady gaga handled it she handled what would be for anyone no matter how long they've been entertaining people or on stage or whatever she handled what would other than like being chris rock right after being slapped this would have been like the second most intense moment when you were on stage trying to help you know I don't know host or present at the Oscars you're on stage with a with a legend who is also clearly struggling to kind of fully comprehend kind of where they were what was going

on and now you're just out on that stage and you're Lady Gaga and you want to both be protective of and kind of like honor Liza Minnelli you don't want to just like start reading the whole script and pretend like Liza Minnelli's not there. But also Liza Minnelli was just not really in a place where she was able to really do the thing they had sent her out there to do. It was a really, really tough moment. And I thought Lady Gaga was so, just like loving towards Liza Minnelli in this way that just kind of, just helped everybody get through this moment. But I also just really wanted to know who was the person who thought that this was something that was going to be a positive for Liza Minnelli, you know, like, I don't know if, now maybe also, maybe we'll find out at some point that she's much more, generally speaking, much more kind of cognizant and aware than she appeared in that moment. And maybe it's just something kind of happened that nobody could have predicted. Like maybe that was the story, but if, if this is kind of where things are at cognitively for Liza Minnelli right now and someone thought that it was a good idea to put her in that position that was a huge mistake

or maybe she really wanted and i felt for lady gaga but i mean again i don't know i didn't see this but i mean it could be one of those things where it's kind of like well she really really wants this and let's honor her and let's try to mitigate it as as much as possible yeah you know

what that also that could have been the story of how it happened um so i don't know if it's important or not that we get to the bottom of it i mean it might and maybe this is morbid i'm curious as to what the what the conversations were and maybe we'll i mean did anyone ask chris rock if it was okay for eliza and nelly to present because i feel like he ultimately it's ultimately his choice you run everything through chris rock for the last third of the oscars he can decide who's cut off at the bar he can decide who gets to take what gift bag home

which after parties he can go to we should wrap up here but he did he seemed to handle it really well and i hope that he continues to take the high road i don't know if will smith will end up you know i guess it was notable in his acceptance speech that he apologized to you know the academy and the members of the audience but he didn't actually apologize to chris rock because my guess is you know it was obviously it wasn't this one joke that made him get up on live television at the biggest night in Hollywood. and assault someone right like there is a lot of animosity there whether it's one way or two way there is a lot of animosity coming from will smith towards chris rock i don't know if will i assume that at some point he will probably offer another apology um whether or not it'll be a real apology or a non-apology or whatever it is i'm sure that'll be the professional thing to do and he will continue to get roles or whatever um i don't know how he's going to handle it it's probably going to be pretty textbook but chris rock is in a really good position here just to continue to take the high road you know what i mean like he yes maintained a remarkable amount of composure in the moment um and and now and it's it's kind of like he he only does himself a favor by just saying you know whenever he speaks out about this just being as gracious as possible and he he looks he looks great in the public eye yeah absolutely i mean he

he handled that as well as anyone could ever be expected to handle something that completely outrageous yeah i mean like i just again i i don't know if i'll ever not be shocked about that series of events like i just i still kind of can't i saw people this morning when i was looking at the internet people were saying like last night like i just can't go to bed i'm just like have so much weird energy off of this thing and you know again i mentioned at the beginning of the show that you and i are not the biggest oscars heads and so it's not like a thing like even just internet drama and stuff i just don't generally care as much about that as i used to clapping who's clapping back at whom or whatever most of that is kind of just like feels a little low brow to me these days but i will i don't think i will ever not be shocked by It was a truly shocking moment

You and I didn't talk about this off air Which is probably where we should talk about these things But I saw somebody tweet out today saying You guys gotta get Jen Andrews on the show today To talk about this It was impossible because we didn't even know If we were going to be able to do this show via internet today So that wasn't a possibility But I'm with that person who tweeted at us I really want to hear Jen's thoughts on this And a lot of other things We haven't had her on the show in a while So maybe when you're back in Portland And I'm more settled here Maybe in the next week or so We can see if Jen can come on and kind of share her thoughts, especially, you know, given some more time to process this.

That's what I was going to say. I would love to let this kind of just let the dust settle. I mean, the other thing, too, kind of in the background of all this, and you and I haven't talked about it, is the fact that these are two black men interacting. And a lot of the things I've seen on Twitter have been people of color talking about it through that experience. And that's an element, too. I mean, that's an element that I feel like I don't really have any particular insight towards. So that's why I'm leaving that alone, because it's just not really my place to get into or analyze as a white dude. But that's also kind of that's a component of all of this. Right. Somebody said, you know, you're talking about maybe in the top 20 most well-known black men in America, at least in the entertainment space or something like. So that's that's a component of this. But again, a component that I just feel like nobody needs my opinion on.

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man, it's not from a female.

All right, Ali, an email or a V-mail before we get out of here?

Yeah, let's play a voicemail here from Rebecca. Now, I haven't heard this voicemail. I listened to it, like, last week. I can't remember what it's in reference to. I think Rebecca might be time-banditing. And at some point on the show We must have been talking about How much we hate getting startled Or at least I do I hate being startled I think that the only time I've ever been intimidating in my life Has been when somebody Tries to say boo at me or something And I don't know what happens to my face When that happens But when I turn around And look at the person who did that to me They cower I'm thinking of specific times in my life I am at my worst When you think you're going to shock me or surprise me or even if you're not doing it on purpose like i i can't abide by that so anyway i don't know we must have been talking about that at some point on the show because listener rebecca has this story hey luke and andrew it's rebecca in philadelphia i am time

banding and just came across the episode where you guys were talking about being startled in the

hallway um that you had flipped off your neighbor oh there you go right your neighbor um startled you or something at your apartment building. Does that ring a bell, Luke? Yes. Okay, there you go. I think I startled them. Oh, you startled them. Okay.

Maybe. I forget who got startled, but yes.

That was the conversation. You know, Luke, as I always say, who startled who? Really? You know? Whom. Whom startled who? Is that a show title? Whom startled who? Yes, I'll write it down. It's definitely a Dr. Seuss book.

flicked off your neighbor and um i had a good story about being startled and i also really really hate it like andrew and um i was working at a restaurant and i came around a corner and the cook jumped out and said boo about that scarily like it was not very robust of a boo and i punched her um i felt horrible i immediately started to cry as did she because I didn't know that that was going to be my reaction, but we made up. Everything was fine. But that is the story I love to tell people who think it's funny to intentionally startle me. I guess it's a fair warning. If you do it, you might get punched. All right, power out.

Imagine that scene. A co-worker just being friendly, but in a misguided way, says boo, Startles Rebecca Who immediately punches the co-worker And then they both start crying That's about the worst case scenario for that I mean it's only worse if you're both like Standing at the edge of a volcano or something

Imagine Did I imagine this Or was there something in the voicemail That made me think this happened in a restaurant

Yeah she said she was working in the kitchen Or she was working in a restaurant

Just imagine the person who had just ordered Some fajita shooters and listener Rebecca disappears back into the kitchen and just like a lot of time goes by and then you just see Rebecca and someone else from the staff just emerge with just tear-stained faces bringing out the fajita shooters

yeah their faces are tear-stained one has a black eye a bow tie is definitely askew

one's just got a bandage on like the cover of the red badge of courage

there's like a whole there's a whole leg cast where it can't even move at the knee and one crumbs in a full body cast

in a hospital bed only one arm is up in traction but if wheeling up the heat issues

the leg is up in the chair iv's hooked up anyway yeah you know like if you're the type of person who um likes to sometimes say boo to people just remember this story and how about you skip it i

I feel I do feel like that is probably the only, you know, other than being feeling your one is in real danger and one is engaging in self-defense, probably being like shocked like that, being being scared. It's probably one of the only times when you can really get away with slugging someone, because we all agree that like in that moment when you have just been, you know, scared or surprised, it's involuntary. it is like your body is on autopilot because again you're in fight or flight mode and like you have about two seconds where you can literally do anything and we basically accept it as sorry that was just my my my brain turned off and my body turned into survival mode and that's why i had to punch you what if that's what will smith had said during his acceptance speech it's like

i'm really sorry about what happened earlier tonight i was just startled i didn't know he just he surprised me with the joke and I just I reacted I wonder I know we already talked about it

and then we stopped talking about it and now we're talking about it again but sorry you know as somebody who has done no no I'm not blaming you I'm blaming myself for what I'm about to say like as a person who has been involved in physical altercations there is this really intense roller coaster of adrenaline and then like you know I don't know what the opposite sort of chemical in your brain is but after you do something like that you come down off of that really hard and I just wonder what was going through his mind And after, like, for instance, I remember once punching someone in class when I was in school and then walking myself to the principal's office and self-reporting that I had just punched someone. And then coming back to the class with the principal and then apologizing to the person, crying, like tearing up, apologizing to the person who I had punched. all in the course of 20 minutes or something because it was like i had this kind of standoff with a kid and he sort of you know was sort of like you know i dare you or whatever and then i wanted to seem tough and i was mad so i punched him and then i immediately felt so regretful about it because all of that kind of whatever that adrenaline whatever chemical was coursing through me went away and then i just felt horrible about what i had done i wonder if if any part of that was also happening for will smith like if after he had done the yelling and then he's sitting there and then they you know chris rock gives out the award and then they go to commercial like i just wonder what i mean i know all these people were taking

Will Smith aside apparently like Denzel Washington was like kneeling by him and Jada Pinkett Smith and talking to them and a lot of people were sort of coming up and interacting with him I don't know I mean also that's just such a unbelievably intense place to be just the Oscars anyway like I just I just wonder what the come down was like for him in that as well yeah right just the moments

after that too just like the immediate moments you're just sitting in that chair probably probably you know so much shaking with anger and also saying what did i just do probably and also i mean like you say it's like i mean could it be a bigger stage i mean literally could it be no a bigger stage i mean maybe if they were sitting like at a un meeting no but peep that happens

like you see those clips of like congress and other countries where people are punching each other or like even the super bowl well we i mean look football is violence so we're we're used to at the super bowl if a fight were to break out between players at the super bowl it would not seem as shocking because these people are physically bashing into each other and we know that this is a physical thing it was also it was violence happening in a place where we've never seen violence yeah happen for committed by a person who was then awarded with the highest honor of the night yeah yeah this is why i will never be over this andrew this is why i will never ever calm down on this topic it is it is and again this is why i will be so let down when this is monetized someday for crypto.com when i see will smith and chris rock standing side by side hatchet buried promoting um you know uh john deere or something what some big prestige super bowl ad i will be very when they will be uber eats luke it'll be uber that's what i would i'm having tonight i'll be having the gi jane three like i don't it's like i don't want them to be in a fight i would like it if will smith apologizes sincerely to chris rock and i would like it if chris rock has the sort of magnanimousness to accept the apology that seems like the best outcome but somehow this being boiled down to some kind of commercial joke which i promise you it will be that also feels like a bad outcome to me i actually i bet against it i i don't think so

i think it came from too personal of a place because i don't think that it'll be and you know we'll see time will tell luke but i i actually take the other side of that i don't think they will like it's an interest you know isn't you said that somebody kind of tweeted that idea out and it is an interesting thing to think about but no i because this was about family and i you know and you know i didn't know about the alopecia thing and whether or not that was the intent like the fact that it's all like there's too much personal family stuff wrapped up in this i think for will smith to ever cheekily i mean i'm not saying that he won't ever like make some snide remark about you know whatever some snide remark about it maybe a self-knowing snide remark but i would be really shocked i think that i think that whatever led to this moment was more than just this specific moment and i think there's too much there and it's too personal and too important for him to do it to use it to sell chips ahoy or whatever i will say that it has very much changed

my take on will smith i was uninterested in will smith previous to this because i found him to be so bland like and just kind of just somebody that just shows up in these movies and things and just is i don't know i just i found will smith to be kind of uninteresting and um i would say i've moved him out of that category in my mind like i don't know what category he's in but like in the knock on him in my mind was just kind of like fresh prince of bel-air which is an extremely broad show and he's just you know mostly now shows up in well i mean he actually does a variety of roles and i think he's a talented actor but i just kind of i just thought will smith was kind of boring and um and now i guess i don't think will smith is kind of boring yeah what's the new like

real um like real life version of um the fresh prince that's out did they give it a different name oh right right sure somebody who's just like somebody i follow on twitter um i don't even think this tweet got many likes he's like i think a producer at cairo radio like a sports actually a sports producer at the espn radio station just tweeted out wow this this new reboot is intense i was like wow that's kind of an under right that's an underrated tweet right there yeah

It was so hard for me to stifle the urge to try to come up with my hot tweet on the topic because it was very obviously Twitter just. like melted down over it and it was one of those moments where everybody who has access to the internet is all thinking about the same topic at the same moment and my you know like me being the jackal that i am that sees you know a downed wildebeest and wants to come over and and gorge myself at this thing of wanting to come up with the perfect tweet and then have a lot of people interact with it and then feel something i didn't i didn't tweet about it i had a few different ones that I started to compose and then I just was like nobody needs my contribution to this by way of Twitter four minutes after it happened yeah right you know but I was tempted because of course of that what I was just describing as the kind of like this moment where it's like oh wow there's blood in the water here there's like I'm maybe saying that because I'm staring directly at the ocean as well Andrew but like it just it felt like oh I got to get in on this and then I thought I don't got to get in on this nobody needs me in on this by way of the I mean I knew we would probably talk about it on this show but as far as my five minute quick reaction turnaround last night I feel for once in my life actually happy of myself that I just kind of left that alone

yeah I think that I had a weird feeling of like like that tweet that I just described you I think I actually purposely didn't like like it or give it a heart or whatever because I felt this is a weird place to take the show and we got to wrap things up but like I felt like an interloper sort of it's like i'm not watching the oscars i don't even have a tv i can put on i only know this via twitter so therefore i should not interact with any of this content i kind of didn't even realize this until i'm telling you about it right now but i did have this weird vague feeling of being an outsider to the story even though i was following it on twitter in real time from the moment it happened coincidentally um i was just like this isn't my party maybe maybe we should all have that instinct more when it comes to twitter what did you say last week you've said it before it makes me laugh so hard not my not my circus not my monkeys yeah exactly like this isn't my i did

not make that up but yeah that is a very useful way to think about things sometimes especially

social media probably anyway okay let's get out of here pick things up tomorrow tomorrow's doing

hey you know what i feel like the the maiden voyage from the sweet cream district i thought

went pretty well pretty good yeah a little awkward at the top there but i think we got into some pretty good stuff all we had to do is bring up praying luke that's what people want and that's But we're going to give them.

And I'm almost not using my whisper voice now. So I think we've all gone through a period of tremendous growth over the last hour and a half.

It was early there when we started, though. Very, very early. I know.

That's the other problem. It was 7 a.m. Yeah, exactly. So that's adding to the, like, me being kind of like, don't wake up, daddy. I forgot that you brought your daddy.

Sorry. That's why I was laughing there.

Well, someone had to pay for this condo. All right. That's going to do it for today's show. Thanks for listening, everyone. We will be back here tomorrow with more of this imaginary radio for you. Until then, have a great Monday. Stay safe. Take care of each other. Everybody just take a breath. Count to five. And please remember, no mountain too tall.

And good luck to all.

What kind of rap do you do? Are you like sort of sing-songing a rap like Bone Thugs and Harmony or are you more like Street, like Will Smith?

Power out.