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everyone to a thursday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live memories are made in in your mouth my name is Luke Burbank I'm your host first of all you must wear pants for this coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland Oregon where we're looking at another not dry day it's a little blustery it's a little rainy you know you like to get wet though it's a little wet though but we will we'll push through as we always do Although I just heard this is now, we are on target for the rainiest April in the history of Portland. And Portland is not Seattle in terms of rainfall by year. But still, anytime you're in the rainiest month since they started keeping records, if you're in an already somewhat rainy part of the world, I'm calling no bueno on that. But I'm calling Major Bueno on episode 3,667 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. Let's talk about including the major. Speaking of Seattle, we do have some definitive reporting now, thanks to Larry Stone at the Seattle Times, about what the Mariners are planning on doing related to their seventh-inning stretch music. Hey, Lloyd! So we'll dig into that. But also, Netflix's stock is down 35% after it was already down 40% because instead of adding subscribers, as they were hoping, they are losing subscribers left and right.

I don't even own a television.

They say it's basically because we're all sharing our password with, you know, our college roommate or our parents or whoever. They're going to try to crack down on that. Speaking of streaming services not doing particularly well.

Do you set yourself up to completely fail the crowd, or you go out there and you rock the house?

A little bit of breaking news. Actually, I mean, no joke, like 15, 20 minutes ago, news that CNN Plus is shutting it down America. CNN Plus, the short-lived streaming service that was getting about as many viewers as TBChill has listeners, Which is fine for us, but bad for CNN Plus, as evidenced by the fact that they're ceasing operation. It's a Thursday, and so we are going to, of course, celebrate the Blur's Day, as is our want on the Friday of the middle week. We'll do all that with the help of this young man, the longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's joining me right now from the Sweet Cream District of Seattle, Washington. His name is Andrew Lewis Walsh. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. I'm going back and checking my records here. I've never done, like, ads on TBTL for CNN+, have I? Because I feel like nothing collapses quicker than a product or service that I do ads for on TBTL. CNN+, brought to you by Drinkworks. Brought to you by Drinkworks. It's not a Keurig. Except it's made by Keurig. Yeah. Can we talk about that? Are we allowed to? So it's been a while. I think I recorded two advertising spots that aired on the show for something called The Drinkworks, which was, well, the best way I can describe it to you so that you would understand what it is, is it's like a Keurig coffee maker for cocktails. And it's made by the Keurig company. However, in the copy, it said in big red letters, do not call this a Keurig for cocktails. And I never understood that. And then I got an email that said that they were going out of business and they will refund everybody's money who bought one of these things.

The funny thing is they sent you and I, they sent you a Drinkworks, they sent me one, and you and Veeves actually really enjoyed it.

Yeah, I never said anything that I didn't believe. It was a fun thing to have in our house. Genevieve threw a little party, like one of her TV club parties where people come over and eat themed food based on a TV show they're all watching from the 80s usually. And I guess that was like the that was the focus of.

Of the party, everybody was like, oh, I want to make a Mai Tai. Oh, I want to make a... It's a handsome, handsome device, too. It looked pretty sleek. The finishes are nice. Yeah, it looks sleek. But, you know, it was one of those things that was, you know, it wasn't like, it wasn't an impulse purchase, right? Like, it had a price tag on it. You were paying for it. It was like a little appliance for your kitchen. And so that's where I always get a little bit nervous when we're asking people to trust us to buy products that, you know, actually would be a bit of an investment for somebody and so um you know i we signed off on this one we had a lot of fun with it but then when i saw an email that said we are ceasing production i was like very nervous that there was some um upset 10 out there who said i bought this thing because andrew said it was fun and now it doesn't exist and we can't buy the pods for it anymore but it turns out the company did everybody right like they were offering full refunds for anybody who had bought this thing but anyway i i really spent some time blaming myself that's really the point of this i mean i just figured that like had i maybe maybe if i'd added more energy to those reads i don't know what i could have done but i feel like i could have saved that company but i

didn't do enough and i have that feels to me like that that train had left that station before we ever got those those those copy points and we certainly do we do as much due diligence as we can and we do turn down a lot of potential um live reads because they're just like we talked about this not long ago on the show but it's like if it's something that just feels like we can't vouch for it or we uh don't know if this would serve the listeners the best like we really do turn a lot of things down um you know and our friend annie who who coordinates a lot of this stuff with us is just the best about giving us giving us room to uh you know just kind of only only promote stuff that we feel like we can really stand behind i guess every once in a while there's no way for us to know that this product that they literally sent us proof of concept of and which worked and which you actually went to the liquor store and bought replacement things yourself because of how much you were enjoying this as a product there i guess there was no way for us to know that they were going to cease manufacturing on that but that had to have been in the uh excuse me andrew the drink works for a while before it got to us because i mean that's a pretty this is a a pretty robust operation right there's no way how were they buying podcast ads the same time They were trying to figure out how to keep the lights on.

Well, I'm looking this up. Turns out we are affordable. Also, though, maybe not affordable enough. I don't know what you're charging for ads, but I am prohibitively expensive. That would be something, wouldn't it? If we just negotiated different ad rates. That is kind of a commercial radio model for those things, right? I mean, that's when you had various shows on Cairo radio. I was not showered with offers from the sales department. I was showered with goodbyes when I was walking out the door, and they're like, oh, good, finally we can sell the night show again.

No, there was no – we had, like, no live reads on the night show other than – you know what? This is my – this is apparently a trend for me. I think the only live reads we had ever on TBTL when it was a night show were for, like, Xfinity, and it was because they had just bought a giant bundle of time on the radio station, and it was like, well, I guess we'll have the night – You know, we'll have the night guy do a couple of them. But it was not because anyone came to me and said, we would we really think you could be the voice of our roofing operation or whatever. Like the people at that, particularly at Cairo, where we used to work, all of the real money is made for those hosts and all of those damn live reads. And I never had any of those. I mean, the advertisers, the local advertisers, many of whom were, you know, in the trades and things like that. I don't think they heard me on the radio and thought, that's the guy we want to have vouching for our stuff.

For the Cairo Radio listening audience, really?

No, they were not. They did not. As much as I offered free services for the Slabjacking company, they said, no, thank you.

We would like to get John Curley to do that or whomever. John Slabjacking Curley.

I just didn't want you to think that it was like you were unpopular as the night host. I think it was that the night show just didn't have enough people listening, at least as far as these incredibly Byzantine, and I think unreliable measurement tools they had, it had been decided that the night show was not where they were going to dump any money as far as advertising.

Although the guy who replaced me in that time slot, who had a bit of a name for himself, a conservative talk show host who took it over when I left, and we're going back a ways here. I think I left that show in late 2014, maybe 2015. No, sorry, I think it might have been earlier than that because I was actually in LA in 2014. Anyway, it doesn't really matter. like i do remember like he took over the slot and he immediately was sponsoring he had a couple of sponsorships i think uh in the evening but he had probably like some kind of coin is probably some

sort of gold coin situation and gun safing because that's the other thing i didn't want

do any of that shit when i was right yeah like i didn't they wanted me to do bellevue golden coin and i was like i don't that doesn't seem like my brand yeah um you know so like also yeah if you if you start turning stuff down i mean i i was lobbying for years for the drinkworks account

but i could rest it away from don o'neill you couldn't land the drinkworks account anyway i think it's okay that i told everything that i told today i don't know did i this show is all

about transparency exactly i'm willing to i'm happy to mention to the listeners that i'm currently in a bit of a tiff with Stephen King, with noted author Stephen King.

Oh, really? And is it public radio related? He won't come on your show? Because he used to live in Maine, which is, I don't know if you know this, but kind of close to New Hampshire. And so we felt like there was a connection there, but we could never really get him on our talk shows because he was too good for us.

Well, I mean, he is a, I mean, fabulously wealthy and fabulously successful writer. So I guess it's kind of like could the front porch or what was the other name?

Well, what I'm thinking of specifically, this is not fun for what you're trying to point out. I should have just said the front porch or the exchange, but it was actually some special like the Library Association of America hired us as a team at NHP. You're absolutely right. Five of us. Yeah. No, I'm going to go into more detail. The more you do that, the more details I will go. I will make up details that will bore your eyes out of your head and your ears off your noggin. Anyway, it was a special literary thing that we had, like, the support of the Library Association and everything, and we had some pretty big-name authors on, and we thought, well, Stephen King's right in the backyard, like, we can get him for a little bit. But no siree, he was too busy trying to understand technology and then write about it in his books, like, zip drives. You didn't like that at all.

What was it, the dome? Oh, he's just, yeah. That you're very frustrated?

That's one of the yeah, but like so the all of his latter books, like starting in like the 2000s, you can just like it's just like a grandfather describing like his kid's iPhone to his buddies over a lukewarm bowl of soup at the diner. He's like, you should see this thing. It's just I mean, you can get the weather on it.

Anyway, what were you going to say, Luke? I wonder if you all would have been in Maine at Maine Public Radio if that might have worked because maybe that's what he was listening to. I feel like there is a long And kind of proud Tradition of really big Like very well loved authors Being kind of friends with their Local public radio station

Yeah you would have said you'd just be cool He's a writer's public radio

Right but I mean like I'm sure you know There are for instance Cheryl Strayed down here In Portland who wrote Wild And lots of other things She's like famously a friend of OPB A good friend of Livewire And some of it has to do I think with the fact that it's just what you're hearing when you're getting in your car or when you're gardening or when you're puttering around your house like i could see stephen king being a huge main public radio head and just being like i'll anything they need and it's like a show that's local and maybe not even something that you and i would think of as being the most well produced but it's just his station but you're going one state over yeah and we are one state over i think he was just aloof but what's your tiff what's your tiff okay stephen king on april 19th tweeted out dinner colon get a nice salmon filet at the supermarket not too big put some olive oil and lemon juice on it wrap it in damp paper towels okay i'm with this all the way i mean i don't eat salmon but this sounds like a nice night out there in maine or wherever he might be the next line is what chilled me nuke it in the microwave for three minutes or so nuke it in the work microwave take it to work microwave it there nuke it in the microwave for three minutes or so eat it maybe add a salad that's the whole tweet that's the tweet and i wrote truly a master of horror that's a good okay i mean save it for friday you dingus it was such an obvious tweet by the way that uh our friend kai risdahl i think the next day wrote something like this guy can really write horror and then some listener i don't have this right in front of me tweeted at kai and said luke did it first and better oh no you're already and you and kai you're well something's gonna break there in that twitter relationship eventually no i mean that that relationship is the drink works of professional friendships it's over it's been shuttered so so anyway i just you know i microwaving fish strikes me as and i don't know i mean well because of the smell because of the smell and if you've ever worked with someone like i did with neil rausch in the new york bureau of npr the guy neil raush was a a real a real character and kind of actually i sort of miss the days of having really eccentric colleagues like you often do in public radio he was an engineer um but he didn't engineer any live stuff because that kind of got to him was a little too stressful so he was you know the person who would if you were mixing a piece or if you needed some some you know if you needed some to run an isdn this is these were the things that neil would tend to do but for doing this he would Thank you. wear sweat bands on his wrists and forehead like he was bill walton in the like 1972 nba championship or something and i remember thinking i don't know how much sweat you're generating neil but i appreciate that you want to make sure it does not impede the pressing of the buttons but then he

also loved nothing more than heating up some fish in the uh the the shared kitchen area some fish last night's fish and i believe there there was more than one conversation that management had to have asking neil to please stop microwaving fish at lunch it's just really not pleasant for everybody else okay so there's the smell of it that being said i do think microwaves get a little bit of a bad rap sometimes it because like for instance a lot of people now say that if you're cooking bacon the microwave is actually really the way to go have you followed this trend at all no i know it's dubious well i mean there are a lot of these kind of newfangled kitchen devices that are basically like a bacon tree or different kinds of ways you know they're a thing that's sold for you to basically hang bacon from or put it on or around in and then put it in the microwave and then cook it up and it sure looks when i see these videos online or whatever it sure looks like it comes out pretty okay minus a lot of the hassle factor around cooking bacon I will say that I

think I learned I think the first scrambled eggs I made were microwave scrambled eggs in my terrible little studio apartment slash kind of dorm room thing in college that's another thing

there are lots of I think there are a number of different egg preparations that are really not bad in the microwave like I feel like our generation Andrew it was like when you're a kid the microwave was this magical thing like microwave popcorn or microwave uh you know burrito or whatever it was just kind of like this is so cool and then you get into sort of early adulthood and you start to think of the microwave as like the enemy of of certainly of cooking your food of like the first the initial preparation of your food maybe if you're going to warm something up but as far as it being where you cook your fish or your bacon or your eggs um it just seems it strikes me as totally gross but i don't know why because really all it's doing is applying heat to something or i believe the way a microwave really works is heating up the water molecules inside

something is that isn't that technically how it works that that sounds right to me but it might sound right because you've said that on the show before and i'm just buying deeper and deeper this is how our rumor gets started information yeah so but i will say this like i for me like the microwave it's not like a um for whatever it's worth i don't think it's a snobby thing i don't think i have any legs to stand on when it comes to snobbiness or that like oh i can do it better in a pan uh maybe i'm a little bit that way with like genevieve's food ninja thing like one time i made a um i made a uh roast chicken and she said you know we could in the future we could do that in the in the um food ninja thing and it would take like a quarter of the time or something i'm like yeah but i don't want it to take a quarter of the time i'm not interested in eating this so much as creating this and then cleaning up after this this is this is how i'm calming my mind right now i don't need to speed it up what would i do um but anyway so i'm not like kind of like oh you're cooking your food in the microwave you're lowbrow i to me it's not that i saw a tweet or something going around the other day that said ah the microwave bell the sound that lets you know your dish is hot and your food is cold i'm like yeah that's kind of my experience lately maybe i have the wrong maybe i'm heating stuff up in the wrong um uh vessels but i just sort of feel like it never is it's never done correctly and then i'm hop hop hop hop hop hop you know you can barely take the bowl out because it's so hot to the touch but then inside everything is like some parts of it are kind of spottily warm and other parts are cold i mean not soup soup is fine anyway

yeah i just i think it's hit and miss and i think i have just generally in my mind i mean you know i have just categorized the microwave as a kind of as the kind of um last resort for like to me and i'm a really really unaccomplished chef and cook and baker but to me the idea of like putting my oven on a certain temperature and then putting something in the oven to rewarm it feels like that's going to taste better than putting it in the microwave and i don't even have any real like evidence for this i'm just saying that's what my mind assumes certainly if you were going to say luke um cook up a you know filet of salmon the microwave would definitely not come to mind first for me so i put that little silly tweet out it's not like it's blowing up the internet but because i interacted with a tweet from stephen king it now means anything stephen king does for the rest of his life on twitter i will now see it like i don't follow him but that's that's twitter's big thing now it's like because you because you thought for three seconds about this person's twitter feed we will now continue to show you their twitter feed forever so i just saw this response clearly i wasn't the only person. who was a little bit, as you would say, dubious. His response, I have one thing to say to people slagging on my salmon recipe, colon, all caps, don't knock it if you haven't tried it, smiley face emoji, which actually I thought was a kind of a, that was, I thought, a very measured and cute response. He wasn't like getting mad at people. He was just saying you might like it more than you think. Now, he does have a typo in the tweet, which is one of America's great writers, strikes me as somewhat ironic.

Yeah, and again, careful with that word great. but not to be well great in terms of success sure absolutely and also a great storyteller but also just like some real you'll find some cringe in there as far as like kind of various stereotypes and just like you can really get a sense of how he views the world a couple of things here first of all do you think nuke like nuke it in the microwave is one of the most dad things to say I don't think I've ever heard someone under 50 say nuke it Well, I follow this thing on Instagram that I really like. I don't know if it has mass appeal, but it's called ordinary people memes. And I don't know if they're like headshots or just like they're just like very, very like mediocre kind of headshots. A lot of them have kind of a 90s or maybe a 90s vibe to them or or they're just off a little bit. They're not like nice. And then in a, you know, just some random font, they'll ascribe them some sort of just just quote that is just so banal, like, hey, chief, go grab yourself a soda out of the garage fridge or something like that. And somehow like that quote goes so well with that, that just it's just like I said, normal people memes. Right. And there's something about like I could just see like some some photo of a guy, you know, who's probably like 55 years old, male pattern baldness, just saying, hey, just throw that in the microwave and nuke it a bit, bud.

Yeah, that's totally. I can't believe that I'm now going to once again try to describe this meme, which I tried to do this like two, three weeks ago. and i think it was a disaster but there's this meme that was going around tiktok a bunch with a song that i had never heard it's a country western song and it's uh i think it might even be from like the 80s or something addy has now gotten into the singer from this song she sent me she's like this guy's music kind of slaps actually but it's just like this kind of i don't know very 80s sounding country song and the meme is this is i was telling you about the person at the walmart trying to check out like buy a 4k tv but they're scanning it up as a red onion and it's like so it'll be like this music's playing and then it's like me at the walmart essentially in this in this moment they're joking about trying to steal this tv and then it's like cut to stock photo of like a walmart greet or an older guy going like do you need a bag or something like really friendly like the idea so so there's a whole bunch of these where someone's doing something and then it's like cut to stock footage of generally like an older person or maybe not even older person but just somebody that it's i think these memes are cousins that you're describing because it's like the picture of the other person is so funny because we can all identify with a moment where that other person has just been like like one guy last night i saw one he was it's like him at an old country buffet and it's like the music's playing and he's like you have no idea how formative this woman was in my life and it cuts to a stock photo of a kind of an older gal going honey hang on i'm bringing out some fresh macaroni right now like the lady that worked at the old country buffet uh-huh these sort of just like these moments that we can all relate to of our childhood and and our life and like the kind of person that you see in this particular scenario yes there's something very funny about just seeing that person with a quote that you could completely understand that person saying to you if you were in that moment i don't

know if you've seen this yet luke but if you have please don't spoil the end of this i am scrolling through this original tweet by stephen king right um about the the original salmon tweet as it's known in the texts um and i'm just looking it's so funny i thought that the first comments would just be like ew this is gross but of course like the first comments that are popping up are actually just like some political stuff like i mean it's just immediately you have stephen king so then it's like oh if i respond to stephen king a bunch of people will see my tweet or everybody will have their own like very very specific take on these things so i'm scrolling through as you're talking just being like wow twitter man what a world and then i see that one so stephen king tweets this thing out he you know nuke your fish with a paper towel or whatever and then somebody wrote all of this as the initial response two chemicals found in paper towels are chlorine and formaldehyde chlorine is used to make paper towels white like thermal receipt paper paper towel had been found to contain bpa even paper towel made from recycled paper and i'm like wow who's this person and i was kind of like staring at that like singular use of paper towel i know even paper towel made from recycled paper so i'm looking at that and that's like danish like hey would you like some danish

and I'm listening to you when we're talking this tweet has just been sitting in front of me the whole time and I wasn't paying a lot of attention to it and then like for a second just now it's like who is the person and maybe I was going to say to you like who is the person like what else is going on in this person's life and again I'm not even saying that they're wrong but I'm like who is the person who is taking this conversation about microwave fish in this direction and then I go to hover over their name and click on them and I realize oh it's actor Patricia Arquette what from severance i'm not even oh yeah i didn't know i'm not even just i told you i haven't seen it um stop spoiling it i uh i just i was like yeah what else i was about to click on and be like does this person just you know kind of put the same information on everything is this person just living online just the hill this is their hill they're gonna die on twitter and it's like oh no it's patricia arquette she's got probably other things going on as well it's interesting

That's fascinating. Like something that I have learned, I don't know that many famous people, but in observing them in the world and occasionally interacting with them in private spaces, it's funny because, and I guess this is obvious to people that are smarter than I am, but like just because you're Patricia Arquette and you have a really vibrant acting career. Again, she's amazing in Severance. Really, really good. Doesn't mean that you are necessarily great at reading internet tone. Like, those are not related skill sets. But we tend to think, oh, somebody won an Oscar. Like, for instance, Leo DiCaprio has terrible personal fashion. Terrible personal fashion. Every photo I see of Leo DiCaprio when he's allowed to dress himself is just a disaster.

And it's not fashion forward? It's not one of those things where we think it's bad? No, it's fashion backwards.

It's like he wanted to be the third guy in the Mighty Mighty Boss Tones. Like, I mean, the third trombone player or something like it's just a melange of it's just it's what it is, is it's not the Leo DiCaprio of fashion. like leo dicaprio has a look he dresses just like any other schlub but he's leo dicaprio and so it seems kind of odd that this person who's so talented with acting um and has been so successful in one area of his life is just has no interest in trying to wear any kind of clothes that don't look to me a little schlubbish um but again that's because those things are not related you know what i mean so it's like patricia arquet and i'm not i'm with you i'm not disagreeing with the substance of what Patricia Arquette is tweeting at Stephen King but it's a it's taking it very seriously and it's kind of not probably totally reading the room yeah in a way that's

kind of funny considering how great she is at this thing called acting I've been trying to do some cry I actually like her I haven't seen I haven't seen her in anything in a long time I do want to see severance but I remember back in the 90s when I was watching a lot of like you know kind of 90s era indie films or whatever in my I would be renting them on VHS and bringing them back to my my aforementioned um terrible little studio apartment in college towers but um i was just doing some cross-referencing here it looks like patricia arquette for what it's worth has never been in a stephen king movie i'm kind of surprised by that i just i wonder if both are

pretty prolific if she dislikes stephen king for the same reason you dislike him wonder if she wanted to invite him to something maybe a fundraiser for her um cat rescue or something and he was being aloof and now she's just just waiting to pounce just anytime she can get on there and drag stephen king much the way that you operate or how about this as a scenario

she's um mad at him of course he wouldn't be making these decisions but she's always wanted to be in a stephen king movie um stephen king related movie and you know she's never invited so now like anytime he posts anything to twitter she's just like gonna just slam them there just like just try to steal the conversation and take in a different direction i'm also now thinking

i may start buying those paper towels that are just like kind of regular natural brown color because i'd never even occurred to me that you know that's not naturally white probably the natural color of a paper excuse me of paper towel is yeah obviously it's that kind of like natural brownish color that things that are made out of pulp generally are and so to me it's not it's not important that my that the paper towels that i'm using i will never call it paper towel i will and as i said earlier i will also never call it danish i get i know that's the name i think just as a kid i heard the wrong thing which was like i thought one of those things was called a danish and so if you had a bunch of them they would be danishes uh-huh as opposed to the entire kind of dessert being called danish like as in cake like would you like some cake would you like some danish i was raised like some strudel because you wouldn't say would you like some strudel i wouldn't say strudels i would say strudel yeah so i'm sure that dane obviously danish is correct but i learned it wrong as

a kid that each one of those things so i think of a danish like a cheese danish okay as being a distinct like for instance this is the difference between danish and strudel or danish and cake a strudel is a big thing you cut pieces of or a cake is a big thing you cut pieces of danish is in my experience individual circle things right like a like cheese

is that is that your impression of something that's a danish i'm out over my skis here i don't play in the danish space all that much um but i picture them as you write kind of i feel like we're in some middle ground here because i feel like yes they are individual round things but don't you have to peel them apart don't you have to cut them apart from each other no um i don't

all i know is that if you google danish pastry what you see the top 15 images are individual things like they were donuts not donut would you like some donut I don't know which one of these 12 donut should I have like these should be called danishes they are individual things they should not all be called danish unless you cook them into one rectangle and you cut a piece off

then it can be danish and I it seemed it would appear based on every photo that I'm seeing that I was wrong about that idea that they kind of come out attached and you have to there and you have to like kind of perforate them because that does not seem to be right now where i heard something on the radio the ironic thing here is i heard something on the radio yesterday that the host was saying it's the it's the type of thing he hates hearing on the radio because it's such a stupid topic and now i'm going to raise it here um because it's like one of those false argument things or just like somebody said it's a hot dog a sandwich and and the guy on the radio is just like i'm so sick of that that's so stupid as people just looking for something to fight about he's like it's just like that is a maple bar a donut argument which i had

never heard before i don't think that's an argument it is that is that an is that an on yeah of course

is that an ongoing argument i had never heard it before i don't know but i mean it seems pretty obvious to me i mean the only place you would get it is a donut shop right yeah i i don't i've never

seen a maple bar in any context outside of other donut products my guess is donut my guess is the

argument would be that it breaks the people think of a donut as like a classic Homer Simpson shaped donut circle like a circle with not a circle but then what do you do with jelly donuts okay jelly donuts are circle they don't have a hole in the middle so yeah I mean all I'm doing is saying this is a dumb conversation let's argue it out here so I

apologize but what I'm saying is I think I've really happened upon something here I'm so often wrong Andrew about things but I think calling the like if I were to bring over a box of cream cheese danish which was actually five individual things how can i call all of that danish how can i call it a singular it is there are there are multiple things just like i wouldn't say hey i brought you some donut hey would anyone like some donut we're celebrating cassie's birthday anybody want some donut i'll bring donut why why are we calling it danish why

are we not calling it danishes you know what i'm going the opposite on this luke just i'm gonna start calling donut donut i'm gonna say how many donut do you want that's my takeaway from all

of this all right well we i you know what i respect that i'll call it danishes and you call it donut that sounds good okay we got to take a quick break and then when we come back uh we'll talk netflix we'll talk uh mariners and macklemore uh all uh in a moment here on tbtl we was hoping

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these generous folks are making today's episode possible and really in a way in a collective since every episode of the show possible. Of course. With their generous donations. Speaking of which, May 23rd through 27th, TBTelethon 13, let the fun begin. We will be in Denver. And hoping you'll be able to join us virtually for that, or maybe even in person on the 27th. We're going to do an event in Denver, a trivia night. We've got to start by thanking Brett and Amy Hanson, right there in Seattle, Washington. New District. Oh, right. Okay, Brett's name is ringing a bell now. Gotcha.

Nettie Pot. He wrote in a very descriptive voicemail or email all about how he clears his sinuses. We don't have to return to that.

I feel like it was a real journey, the Nettie Pot thing. And it was like a system. And now he doesn't even need it anymore. He can just go in the shower and somehow just make it happen sans Nettie Pot. That's the one. That's our Brett.

You started talking, and I thought you were going to say much more than that. I'm sorry that I've made it awkward now. This is what they're saying, the Hansons. Hey, gang, thank you for another year of excellent daily content for our ears. My wife and TBTL progenitor, Amy, and I. Wow, Amy, thanks for turning Brett on to the show. We were delighted that we could go dazzling again this year while hunkering down with Rockwell, he of the murder she wrote, piano playing. Okay, I remember this. And his brother, Mac, of all things, Dungeons and Dragons. Well, they just wrote D&D, but I'm guessing that's Dungeons and Dragons. I think it's Danish and Danishes. Uh-huh. Show title? Danish and Danishes? I am not a creative person, so I've spent another year soaking up our friends. Is that Rockwell? This is Rockwell on the keys, yeah. I didn't mean to interrupt you. I just thought it'd be some good... I just wanted to let it happen in the clear. I wanted to give Rockwell... Some of the only music we can play that Spotify won't pull us over. Oh, no, we'll be pulled. I am not a creative person, so I've spent another year soaking up our friends' projects. Molly demonstrates how to whip up swank non-alcoholic cocktails over there at Instagram on instagram.com slash mollymakesdrinks. I think I'm getting into that, by the way. I have all these N.A. bidders that they gave me backstage at Livewire that I've been mixing in sometimes to things. And there's a bunch of bars that are opening in Portland that are these N.A. bars where you can go get a really yummy cocktail that doesn't have any booze in it. I feel like, you know, I don't want to get into other people's lives, but, you know, one out of every three being N.A. certainly can't be bad for the old system. Sure. Balance it out a little bit. So if you want to learn how to make. I wonder if Drakeworks has any options like that. If you're going to find out how to make some non-alcoholic cocktails, go to Molly Makes Drinks on Instagram. Neptune Dan, what? Yes, that one makes thick trading card art at Instagram.com slash thirddanart. Aw, Dan, hope you're doing well, buddy. Used to do events there, right, at the Neptune coffee shop? Absolutely, yeah. We had a trivia night there. I think it was Arrested Development Trivia. Yeah, I was there for that, yeah. And that was just such a great place. and then it blew up. Yeah, literally. Literally, it blew up. Yeah. That was wild and amazing. It was a gas leak or something, maybe? Yeah, and unbelievably, nobody was hurt, so that was great. But then Dan is also, you know, he is a printmaker and does all kinds of cool stuff and had helped me out with a lot of things in the past related to TBTL and printing. So go to Instagram.com slash ThirdDanArt. Amy's only request is, Pretty Please, Can We Have Another Song of the Summer? Hmm. If only we knew someone who could help us with that.

Well, Amy, it's under strong consideration. Signed, you're U District 10's Amy and Brett Senior Nettie Pot Correspondent. Well, thank you very much to Amy and Brett and Rockwell and Mac for being part of the TBTL family. Appreciate you. Maestro? On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. I see what we're doing here. A couple of couples, a couple of, what would you call it, double dips. It's a family affair. It sure is. Second group of folks we want to thank is Asha and Cameron Little. Signed, checking in from Van Life USA. Yeah, they must be on the road.

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Oh, my gosh. It's the most excited I've ever heard you. Well here's the thing Andrew I know that the whole This van life thing has been It was very novel And then it became really widely embraced And then it became The narrative became It's a lot harder than you'd think And I feel like the whole van life trend Is a little on the wane But every time I see Some online video Of somebody just trucking around the country In their van I am so tempted to just walk away from life i don't mean that's what everyone in van life is doing most folks are still working they're just working remotely but like the because i'm the kind of person who assumes if i change my physical surroundings i'll change whatever's going on inside of me the van life thing is extremely seductive to me um oh by the way katie weaver our friend and by our friend i just mean a writer who we admire uh just wrote this van life piece for the new york times i think it was maybe came out yesterday would recommend oh yeah she basically rented a van for a week to live in it and then wrote about the experience it was pretty entertaining she's a great anyway asha and cameron are out there in van life

USA and they say thanks to last year's dazzling donor message Aisha got some work Thanks Holly This year we want to promote Buena Luz Bakery in Port Angeles, Washington If you are visiting the Olympic National Park or just happen to be on the Olympic Peninsula, you should check it out and support other 10s and 10s adjacent Plus, it's delicious We love having TBTL as a companion wherever we are, and even though we listen at different paces, the TBTL week is always a group listening activity asia and cameron i cannot tell you what good that does my heart to hear you say that because i also can kind of not overstate how much andrew and i and the folks at apm sweat over that exact question how do we get as many folks as possible who might be time bandits or whatever to kind of all focus in on that week of content since it's you know that the week that we're asking to keep the show going and it doesn't help us if folks uh you know tune in three months later or at least it's less helpful i think you can probably still donate but like it would be it's the ideal if we get everybody listening and then we kind of get the show funded for the next year and then we can stop talking about it so to know that that is like y'all have it circled on your calendar that's great i'm glad to hear that yeah um signed uh asia and cameron who Say lots of love to Luke Andrew and the 10s. Listen, if y'all are coming through Portland and you got an extra seat in that van, you let me know because I'm looking to shake the dust of this crummy little town right off my feet.

You know, if you take Luke on in this manner, you're going to have issues getting him out of your van. Just be warned of that. Like once you let – They've heard the show. Give a Luke a cookie is what I'm saying.

actually you do give luke what's that what is it it's like you you you give a what was the thing i was getting really into and then i already forgot it i don't know i mean we talked on the

show about the you give a mouse a cookie expression and then we kind of discovered they came from a series of kids books something that i didn't realize but i don't know that that's

what you're talking about there was a football player who said who was talking about just like wanting to have more and more success and he said something like you give a you give a pig a pickle And he'll want another one or something And I think it was a variation Of you give a mouse a cookie and they want another one But it was I thought more clever And I endeavored to start Saying it and then I immediately forgot

Yeah and I do think it was Another name of one of those books in the series Is what we learned

I think you're totally right I think it was like the second or third in the series And then we went through and we're reading all of the different All the different names So anyway yes I'm a pig I want a cookie Let me in your van hello and welcome to top story all right quick update you actually sent me this uh article andrew larry stone did an interview with somebody actually the i guess the person his name is kevin martinez he works for the seattle mariners who is i believe the term was the buck stops with me regarding this louis louis situation so they found somebody within the mariners who's willing to take responsibility for having changed the song that plays at T-Mobile Park after, after? After? After? That's a character from, is it Loader or Game of Thrones? After. After the great, right? Uh-huh. After the battle troll. Yeah. After the take me out to the ball game, which is the tradition, I think everywhere, right? Every major league park does that. I think so. But since, like, I was surprised to see that it's only, I'm putting only in quotes here, it's only been since 1990. Andrew, it's only been 32 years. I know, 32 years. That's what's messed up, is if I say something was 30 years ago, I think you mean 1975. Right. Carter was definitely in office. Right? Like, I can't believe, because I saw 1990, and I was like, oh, well, so this is new. And then I realized this is 30-plus years ago. but back in i think it was 1990 the team decided that they were going to try to um come up with a kind of signature song to play after the seventh inning stretch the singing along with that take me out to the ball game song and this was around the same time when there had been a push to make louis louis the state song of washington um which is also kind of interesting because the kingsmen are not i guess in this article they're mentioned as being a portland oregon based band i always thought that the kings were from tacoma or something you know i had a i thought they were

washington as well this has all come out in the wash that they're actually uh portland but still pacific northwest you're hoping that like you're hoping that anybody who lives in oregon is still

a mariners fan i still think that we can claim that uh that's where i root andrew um anyway i I guess what happened, though, was in that same.

1990 season as some sort of promotion i don't know if it was for the song or what they actually had the kingsmen come play in between like during the seventh inning stretch they had them come play louis louis live on top of the dugout in the kingdom and that happened to also be a game where randy johnson threw a no hitter and so i don't know i don't i can't imagine that anyone like consciously decided that this was now it officially cemented it but the way larry stone writes it more or less was like okay now we know this is officially our song uh for for this moment of the game and so they've been doing it all these years um and uh i guess you know the mariners decided that uh they wanted to try to shake it up a little bit and they wanted you know something more i guess upbeat and something that felt more relevant and they've been playing this macklemore song which is isn't it like can't hold us or something you can't can't hold us back maybe um uh and so they'd been playing this song in the ballpark for a long time already and so that was also part of the like the logic was the fans are already familiar with us playing this mackle this macklemore number because we've been playing it at different times in the game so like there's a comfort level with it again he's a seattle guy you know he loves the mariners and so they just decided to go with it and that's what they're doing although kevin martinez was smart enough to say well you know we're still we're listening and we're taking notes i.e we get it that everybody is freaking out online about this and uh you know wishing that we would not have done this but so my guess is that they're going to try to ride out the storm and just hope that eventually people get

used to macklemore yeah i mean i've been doing a lot of thinking about this since our original conversation which was much more kind of off the cuff i think we started the show with it the other day because i wasn't sure how closely you've been following this and it was before the seattle times finally gave us some um actual information they followed our lead on the reporting absolutely um but you know you mentioned um during the show that you know boston has you know the red sox have sweet caroline like that's a tradition in their stadium and i said hey that's a pretty good point because i don't think like neil diamond is uh a local artist it's just you know it's just for some reason it resonates with the audience and it's a tradition a tradition that's even um uh uh newer newer i almost said less old i was gonna say less old um anyway sadly the answer is less old um i think maybe that started in 97 but i started reading about the origins of that My argument being earlier in the week when we were talking about this, that, like, Seattle has this thing about always having to think that if it's local, it's better, even if it's not, sort of. And, like, just putting a lot of emphasis on, like, kind of these local artists we have who are kind of one-hit wonders for novelty songs. I mean, with all due respect to MC Mix-a-Lot, Sir Mix-a-Lot, whatever. Anthony. And I don't dislike these people as human beings, but it's just, like, there's something a little cringy about it. It's a little bit like, hey, listen, I, you know, I love my parents, but I didn't love it when they would like kind of show up at a social event when I was in high school. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, come on, dad. Really? Are you going to be coming over here and telling me and my friends that we should nuke something in the microwave? Like, you're kind of embarrassing me right now. Like, I sort of feel like Seattle has a little bit of that with this like sort of this Macklemore obsession and and a little bit of baby got back. And maybe it's because I'm a carpet bagger. But I just want to say the one thing this is my point that I wanted to get back to is like I was reading about the origins of Sweet Caroline in Fenway Park and like it was totally organic and that's what's cool about it. It was there was a woman who was in charge of choosing the music and on one day a friend of hers had had a baby named Caroline. So just for herself and her friend she played Sweet Caroline over the loudspeakers and then it's she started sprinkling it in a little bit more. And then as she started choosing when to play it, it had to be like certain conditions in the game to like raise the spirits of the crowd or something. And then some management shift happened and somebody who was in charge of like audience experience was like, hey, we should be playing this every game. Like everybody cheers up. We don't have to be holding back on this. Speaking of Macklemore songs. And so they just started playing it every day. And it was just like this organic thing that just sort of happened. And it sounds like Louie Louie was similar to that. I'm not a huge fan of the song Louie Louie. I wasn't really bummed about it going away, but I feel like this. Well, we took a tour, and we're talking to people about fan experiences, and they said that they want a more modern experience at the ballpark.

So we're taking a song that's about six years old by somebody who's a one-hit wonder. It just seems like, I don't know, man. It just doesn't seem organic to me.

I can't believe that this is the argument I'm making, but I just want to clarify. Macklemore had three really big hits. Okay, sure. Which, fine. And I know.

that's like i know that's not your point but it i will say the reason that i have to bring this up is because i hosted this event that macklemore performed at after thrift shop it was a sasquatch announcement party was at the neptune and i just happened to be in the green room talking to him and i was like how are you doing man and he was like i'm i'm okay i'm really overwhelmed right now because i feel like i'm at this moment of my life where i have this song it was a big hit if i kind of like play my cards right and do the right things I could be set for the rest of my life and I don't think he just meant monetarily but just like he could just be set up for the rest of his life he goes or I could just be a one-hit wonder and that conversation really stuck with me because I was like and this again is why I think I have a soft spot for the guy even though the music the music is just musically is not really for me but he as a person I kind of like empathize with because what I then noted was he went on to have two more songs

that were like crazy hits. What were they? I got Thrift Shop and Can't Hold Us, but I don't have anything else on that, and I'm looking at his hits here. Well, what are the top three Macklemore songs? They're not listed. On Google you have Can't Hold Us, Thrift Shop, and then something called Wings with a dollar sign for the S, Glorious, Marmalade, Good Old Days, Same Love did get some people talking about it, but that was like the really earnest, like, woke song, right? That was real cringy.

Right, so wait, so the ceiling can't hold us? Is that the song they're playing at the Mariners game now?

Yeah, can't hold us and Thrift Shopper.

Okay, so that was a huge hit. Obviously Thrift Shopper was a huge hit. And then there was one more, and I don't, because I don't really know McElroy's music. He had, I promised you, he had one more that was, like, definitely charted and was getting played a lot. And it might have been the, like, might have been Same Love, but I just remember being kind of like, every time he would have another song, and I'm not talking about, like, I'm in Seattle listening to it on Cube. I mean, like I'd be in New York and I'd hear it at like some bar and I'd be like, oh shit, he did it again. And I would go back to that conversation that he and I had had about how he was like, and I was like, okay, well, mission accomplished, Ben. You, you know, you got, you got your three hits in. So you're probably, you know, you're in a different kind of career position than you would have been otherwise. But that being said, I'm with you that I don't like, I don't like that song being used because it's the same reason I don't like those like, what's that? you know fallout boy song that we were talking about the other day because we were trying to figure out i was trying to guess at what the cleveland guardian song is going to sound like yeah and there is this certain kind of like rock music song now that the nfl loves that's basically like about like you're gonna be the champion like of all you're just gonna kick so much ass it's just gonna be amazing it's like this really annoying style of music to me that like fallout boy does i'm sure you could hire the guys from imagine dragons to do a version of this it's just i what i like about louis louis is it's the most unhyped song of all time and like that's so much

more entertaining to me and it sort of had an uh an uh organic origin right like they were playing it at the ballpark i think i actually don't have this article in front of me and i read it two days ago but like then the band came up from portland and there's also like and again i didn't start this as some huge proponent of Louie Louie and I still don't actually want to be in that column but there's a lot of reasons why it makes sense like there's like there's something about the Pacific Northwest that I think has you know is kind of like shrouded in weirdness and mystery I mean the whole Sasquatch thing you know like the rumor of Sasquatches and there's like the twin peaks of the Pacific Northwest you know and I sort of feel like this version of Louie Louie the one that became popular by the Kingsman had a lot of like intrigue around it as well like some of the lyrics are just plain old like muffed in the recorded version and others there are rumors that there are hidden swear words in there that supposedly the fbi investigated back in the 60s or 70s and like and it's just like and it's just like it's weird that this well there were two competing versions

yes exactly it's like all revere and the raiders version versus the kingsman version which one

will emerge and the one that emerged was this like really rough around the edges one um like there there's a reason why and again i'm not a huge fan of that song it's fine i think it's an interesting example of early garage rock going mainstream but i i i don't lose anything if i'm at the ballpark and they don't play louis louis personally and and that's fine but i'm starting to hear how much tradition is important to a lot of the people who are at the ballpark and this one at least again there's just something organic about it just like going around on a listening tour and saying well we we heard i don't think that they took a poll and people said you should play Macklemore I think that they said hey we should like liven up the experience to get younger people and they said oh I know how to do that a Macklemore song well I sent you this article from

Lookout Landing that I'm now having a hard time relocating yeah so really apologies for not um giving oh actually I found it so I can give the writer credit um it was written by two folks Zach Mason and Adrian Leary, and And just one of the things that said in the article that stuck with me is it's one of the only unique to the Mariners things that exists other than futility. But like, yeah, you know, the Mariners are not the oldest or most storied baseball franchise in the league. I mean, we are it is a 40 year old team now, so it's not nothing. But it's like it's not there's just not that much you can point to and say, hey, that's uniquely the Mariners. And Louie Louie was one of those things. and as a longtime fan and as a person who goes has you know historically gone to a lot of games it just was it just kind of felt nice that we had this almost intentionally anachronistic silly thing that didn't make sense because of course the logical things to do is to play a macklemore song honestly like that's really what you should be doing you should be playing some super high you probably should have transit probably should have been acdc thunderstruck

do you know that they played that song that we were um joshing about the acdc um are you ready for a good time that our friend Mike Salk is using as his show intro on 710 ESPN. They played it at the game? They played it on opening night, and I don't know if that's a coincidence or not, but I got a bunch of messages from listeners on the text line, including somebody who recorded a video of it. Like, now somehow we are associated with that song as well.

I love it. But you know what I mean? Like, unfortunately, the logical, quote unquote, logical thing to do at a major sporting event Is to come up with the jam-est Jock jam that you can jam And those are all just like Super high energy and super about How you're just going to completely and totally Dominate the foe Like that's the whole That's how that music I guess is supposed to work But that's why Sweet Caroline Is kind of fun and that's why Louie Louie Is kind of fun because like I would I'm saying you could replace Louie Louie if you want But I wish they would have picked a song that was less Obvious like I wish they would Have picked like an Elliott Smith song yeah how about just just sure how about something that just puts the entire stadium into a quiet

state of reverie well contemplation that's why i mean and again maybe this is where my bias if i'm being really honest kind of comes out but i was like i was just really hoping for box of rain by the grateful dead like is that too much to ask for i don't think so there is a oh my gosh there

is a remix it's a grateful dead it's it's a grateful dead song and then um some music by the hip-hop guy 21 savage and it is one of the greatest pieces of music i have heard in forever it's basically a mashup but it's only because it's like i think it got popular on tiktok you know it's only like 30 seconds long 20 seconds long and i think to myself constantly if i could like do a patreon if i could pay for this person to actually make a full long version of this song I absolutely would I would probably pay up to $500 To just get a full Three minute version of this song It's so good and it's a Grateful Dead Riff that I was unfamiliar with As a non-Grateful Dead head Have you heard anything about this?

No I haven't heard about that I have a few Grateful Dead records that I really like But I'm not very well versed But I did want to say also If I can do a little bit of a plug here And also if I can put my money where my mouth is If you haven't signed up for the TBTL newsletter yet You could do that today because tomorrow I will be releasing my list of songs that I think would have been a better replacement of Louie Louie in tomorrow's newsletters.

I like that. So you've already got that. Got a lockdown. It's already been edited. You've already got it figured out. Yep. Okay. I would be, hold on, I gotta, one of the things about this TikTok world we live in is if you start the video too soon you have to wait for it to cycle all the way through. Yeah, I can do that.

i'm a vet that's why i got a clock you got a tip not check this chest i feel that i'm a paddock with the get i'd curve tiffany for jess need to get myself together i'm a man like that's my favorite grateful dead song i don't know i don't even know what that song is

yeah it's like that's pretty great i'm not even kidding i like heard that and i was like this might make me go listen to some grateful dead because i know they're only like half of that you know mashup but that was enough to have me really kind of i've i've not been anti-grateful dead in my life it's just not other than touch of gray it's just not a you know there's not a band i could tell you much about or like whatever casey jones you know high on cocaine driving that train song but other than they're like two most famous songs would you consider grateful dead one hit wonders i would not that's a real question no i mean in the 80s which is kind of even you know

kind of latter day dead in a certain way they had touch of gray which was a probably a really big hit um but then but then no i mean you just mentioned you know uh casey jones which i don't know if they wrote that but you but did casey

jones did that really like trend were they playing that on the radio or do we just know about it

because we hung out at some bonfires uh like i'm just yeah i'm not sure i think that my guess is it did but radio was so much different back then i mean it was like am radio was where the shit was at right and so and then fm was more alternative and that's kind of it didn't yes i i don't know I'm just babbling now But I do think that I think that a lot of that I heard about that thing On the AM radio I think a lot of that Hate Ashbery stuff Was kind of being played On whatever the more Alternative side was then Which was I think The FM dial Which was not What we think of today As the FM dial Although do people Even think of the FM dial today Because like I mentioned I once said something To Kiki Lolo About how I was Listening to the radio And she thought I was joking She didn't know that people Listen to the radio anymore

There's a right way to rock Get a wrong way to roam You can't just listen to your soul Just remember that life is number one You can be having so much fun Just remember that life is much fun You can be nothing but one

If you're not blursing, you're lursing Cheryl in Corvallis says I just made that up, by the way I know it sounds like one of those

That's actually not bad

If you're not blursing, you're lursing Cheryl in Corvallis says We would like to send a happy Blurs Day wish to Irene Who turns nine Nine! How did that happen? Happy Blurs Day to our sweet angel face We can't wait to celebrate you this weekend. Lots of love from Mama, Daddy, and Julian. Luke, will you please play a funny audio drop, like a burp or something? Irene is really good at burping on command.

Just so happened to have one. Right here, ready to go. In your chest. Ryan says, wish a happy birthday to Lawn Chair Larry. Ooh, another Lawn Chair Larry sneaking in there. And friend Erica. Erica is a Costco warrior, future host of Marketplace. And I'm very excited to see her open her new business, Sweet Cream Girls Coffee Company. She is letting me design the logo. Happy birthday, Erica, from Ryan, the one that is not her husband. How much of that message, Andrew, is to be believed, if any of it? I believe that Erica is a Costco warrior. What does that mean? Works at Costco, goes to Costco a lot, gets in fights at Costco?

When I talked about my first Costco experience on the show the other day, I got a lot of emails and messages from people with a lot of tips and tricks on how to navigate, how to get the best deals. There's a special code where you can look up at a price, and if it ends in a nine, it means it's a regular item that they carry. If it ends in a five, then it means it's limited. There's all kinds of little hacks, and so my guess is Erica is well up to speed on that stuff.

Okay, but then what about the Sweet Cream Girls Coffee Company? That can't be real.

I'm guessing that that is maybe kind of like our disposable media dreams. Like maybe someday we will pull it off. I don't know, though. I don't have any insight here. I'm just guessing. Go with my gut. I believe your guesses. We got a pal. His name is Aaron. I don't usually use last names, but this is Aaron Roden. And Roden says, I'd like to send a Blursday shout out to both my number one ladies, Tatum, who was turning 11 and Tegan who turned 8 last week they both love to overhear their dad listening to TBTL and ask isn't that Andrew and that sounds like Luke so basically they're huge P1s happy birthday to both of you kiddos I know it's been a rough couple of weeks but you both handled things like champs I'm so proud of you both love dad slash rodent

aww and Aaron I know what you're referencing there and I'm just thinking about you and your family I know you guys have been going through it Also, I'm pleasantly surprised that Tatum and Tegan would even recognize my voice Oh, they recognize it They don't like it, they recognize it Oh, sure, no, I'll take recognize I mean, because I see them on the occasion when I pass through the Rodin household They've been to my house before, my old house, and went swimming But that was a long time ago And, you know, kids, they grow up so fast and they forget things And I'm glad to hear that I'm still, again, recognized, if not admired. Happy Blur's Day from Yvonne in Portland to my former co-worker and IRL friendo Sarah in Pittsburgh. We miss you in the Pacific Northwest, but are inspired by all your hiking, no mountain too tall, and roller coaster riding. I wonder if... Sarah's ever hiked to a roller coaster. I call them roly coasters to honor my grandma Walsh. Yes, I find that adorable. We look forward to future cross-country visits and hoisting a beer together. So happy Blur's Day to Sarah in Pittsburgh.

Now check this out. If you can believe it, the entire TENS community, Luke, the entire TENS community reached out to offer a humble and hopefully not too intrusive sincere happy blurs day to our tbtl unnamed unpaid associate producer who um you know doesn't like too much attention so we'll uh keep the anonymity here but i think we know who we're talking about this person does so much for the tens community as this message read and has been a pleasure to meet at countless events happy blurs day you son of a gun i added the son of a

happy blurs day buddy lauren langley and puddle say happy 38th blurs day to michael langley hopes you have a good birthday uh and that she loves playing pokemon with you just as a reminder and is impressed that you're the champion of the galar region is that a hamilton reference uh and that you're her best friend not mommy sorry mommy puddle thinks you're fun to play hide-and-seek with, and she likes when you drive her to school. She also hopes you like your present, even though it's not a big red scooter. Sounds like Michael was hoping to have one of those Christmas style commercials where he comes out and there's a big red bow on a big red scooter, and it's a December to remember. But that's alright. I'm sure you're going to like whatever it is they got you.

Yeah, this is going to be in April, too. Why did I start that? Why did I even start that? A lot of Blur's days today. This list just keeps going. I think nothing rhymes with April. Harry and Karen would like to wish a happy Blur's Day to Alex in Seattle, a longtime TBTL fan that forces his wife to listen to episodes on road trips. You'll make a ten of me one day. Hope you have a wonderful day. Love your wife. Yes, this is the only TBTL reference that I understand.

Happy birthday, Harry, and thanks, Karen, for tolerating this and for emailing in for Harry. Rachel says, Happy Golden Blur's Day to my bestest of friends. Andrew, I'm forever grateful for our friendship and that we've transformed together from two judgy people into two extremely judgeable people. That sounds like me. I never thought about that metamorphosis, Andrew, but that is exactly what happens. Yep. I was, listeners may think I'm still judgy. We just spent the last hour talking about how Macklemore shouldn't be the theme song of the Mariners, but like, I think that's the natural progression of things. When you're young, you probably tend to be very judgy, and then at some point life catches up with you and you realize, no, I am now the judgeable.

Next thing you know, you're just saying, hey, why don't you nuke that and grab a pop out of the garage fridge?

Rachel says, it turns out the latter is far more fun. Also an interesting life observation and lesson. Keep rocking the kickball field. Hope you can visit me soon. That's from Rachel going out to Andrew.

Nice. Now, I don't know for sure. I don't know for sure, but we have another blurs day for an Andrew here. I'm going to assume it's the same Andrew. My apologies if I'm wrong. Says, hello, this is Buka wishing my buddy Andrew a happy birthday today. The day of blurs. I hope it's filled with awkward shirtless dude hugs and crowded bars. I will be back in a couple of weeks to give you one personally. Ms. You lol.

I'm going to assume everyone's consenting to whatever's being advocated for in that birthday message. And that everybody is vaccinated. Yes, and having fun. Shirtless doesn't mean maskless. That's all I'm saying. Anna in the Greenwood neighborhood of Seattle says, not only is my Blur's Day actually today, but it's my golden Blur's Day. It's my 50th. Woot. Wait, I don't know if that's how that works. Unless today is April 50th.

Yeah, no, that's what's interesting here, because is there two definitions of a golden Blur's Day? There is. People call the 50th their golden birthday, maybe. But also, I know golden birthday is like, if your birthday is on the 21st and you're turning 21, then that's a golden birthday.

Or Andrew, maybe it's the Mayan calendar. Is it April 50th on the Mayan calendar? Wasn't Nick Cage in that movie, too? About the Mayan calendar? I love Nick Cage. I love him so much. Anna says, Woot, I'm looking forward to this new decade. I'm wanting to better myself instead of deteriorating. 50s is the new 40, right? I'm with that, Anna. I am as well. I mentioned that I was interviewing John Waters the other day for LiveWire. the guy is 76 years old and he is extremely spry like he hitchhiked you know you and I Andrew tried to hitchhike down the Mississippi with limited success he hitchhiked across the country in his 60s he wrote a book about it but still he like

I forget the other thing he took, like, LSD for the first time when he was, like, 70. Like, he has just decided to live his life in such a way that as he is getting older in years, he's just still doing new things all the time. And it seems to be working. He was the most—he seemed like one of the most energetic 76-year-olds I've ever had a chance to talk to. Yeah, that's great. So here's to you, Anna. Yeah, happy Blur's Day. Drop some acid and go hitchhiking.

Matt says, happy road trip Blur's Day to Christine. I don't know if you're the Thelma to my Louise or the Louise to my Thelma, but let's not drive off a cliff, even if Waze says we should. Happy blurs.

Love, Matt. I've been tempted to drive off a cliff because I'm being directed by the mapping software. I have so fully submitted myself to the directions because every time I try to violate what Waze or Google Maps is telling me to do, I always pay the price. I pay the iron price of sitting in some crazy backup because they were trying to get me around an accident. That now I just am far, far, far too dedicated to it. Anyway, Rob in Tenver says, I am a week late, but I want to wish Mr. Tacoma-wide Bert, happy Blur's Day, as he turned four last week. Bert is the best big brother and an amazing superhero kiddo. Bert dresses up as superhero characters. Cheers to Bert and his incredible in-real-life parents, my tbtl parents bobby and lizzie happy burrs happy blurs happy blurs burt or happy happy blurs to burt or happy burt to blurs whatever that is i don't know how you say happy burrs to

blurt that's the one rhoda says i'd like to wish a very happy belated blurs day to julie in portland i'd like to point something out here luke this message was partially delayed uh because of me this went to my spam folder as did the next uh blurs day we're going to read so my apologies Geez, if you have had missing blurs days, I need to start checking my spam folder more. So these next two, sorry that these are belated. This is on me. But Rhoda says, I'd like to wish a happy belated blurs day to Julie in Portland, the best co-worker in only 10. I know IRL. Thank you for making our work days brighter with your humor and your kindness from your TBTL daddy, Rhoda.

Rhoda, if you didn't want to go to the spam filter, why were you offering Andrew mail enhancement advice? And granted, we all know that it's something all of us guys, I tell all my 45-year-olds, we could all use a little help, but that's why it went to the spam folder. That's right. Shane sent this in a couple weeks ago, Andrew, as you mentioned, but it got caught in your anti-boner folder. Please say, I thought I would throw that in on the one segment that is reliably listened to by the most children. Yes, exactly.

That's good. Fantastic.

Please say happy birthday. Well, what confused me was because you explained it, and then there was also the explanation, and I realized midway through reading it that I didn't need to read it, and then I panicked, and then I just said something dirty.

It wasn't super dirty. I mean, it was the name of a character in a major TV show in the 80s. That's exactly what I was referring to.

Please say happy birthday from your cuz dog, Shania, and the co-bros to Kevin, the righteous one. Luke and Andrew You can include optional Who's your daddy jokes If you're feeling it But he'll figure it out Also boner jokes are fine

So there you go That's funny My copy doesn't have That last part on there There's a special Shane wrote it In invisible ink to me Sorry about losing The music there That was because We do have a lot of Blurs days today Including those two That were late So okay And then this one Just came in I mean this one I don't even know If this is on your list Luke This one is still warm From my email Darren says Happy 30th Blurs day to Grace. I really got to cool off my email. Happy 30th Blurs Day to Grace, one of my oldest friends in the 110 I know in real life. Maybe more like a nine and a half since she's a part-timer. Anyway, hopefully she hears this and have fun on this big day. Hope you celebrate with a special birthday hot dog or two. Thanks for coming to visit a few weeks ago. I can't wait to see you again soon. Blurs it up!

Happy Blurs Day, Grace. One of my favorite names to have tattooed on my arm. Right up there with Addy. And John Prine The name John Prine It's weird that it says Addie Grace

On John Prine's face

Well you know I feel like there's a certain kinship there Between Addie and John Prine That neither of them know about or care about But it means a lot to me It's all coming together Alright you gotta get out of here You have somewhere to be I'm late So let's wrap I was trying to speed through though That extremely voluminous birthday It was amazing and rewarding And we're so happy we got to do it I like the blur space But let's try to space it out a little bit. Can we go, some weeks we have two Blur's days and some weeks we have 200. Can we just average? Can we try to, can everyone try to average when you were born, please?

Like to have manageable now? Like when they just go crazy and get like 11-1 game and then like nothing the next day. It's like, hey, you guys could have spread those out across two games.

I would have taken five runs per game. All right, thanks for listening.

listening everyone we are gonna be back here tomorrow with a friday edition of the program so please do join us for that until then have a great thursday take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

do you know what today is tuesday this is my cat's birthday today i don't see a cat in here I'm sorry. We let it out by accident? No, because he died three months ago, okay? So now, who's the funny guy? Sorry. All right? Today is his birthday, and it is a tradition that on his birthday, I'd get up extra early and make him his favorite kind of dessert. Don't worry, bro. Your cat's going to heaven. Yeah, maybe. Maybe he went to heaven. He was a little f***er. He could have gone to hell. Power out.