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We had an appointment at 3. Yeah, late. Sick. Hello, Mr. Walsh. This is Helen from the Queen Anne Library, calling to let you know the books you requested are here. We have the titles, Oh My God, Why Did I Do That? along with, Oh My God, Why Did I Do That Again? ready for pickup. Please come in by Thursday and continue to use the side door to avoid the stuffed animal collection. Hey, Luke, this is Guitar Center.

We sold you a bill of goods. We sold you absorption when you wanted isolation. Anyway, have fun with your Velcro. TBTL.

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It's Friday. Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. everybody's looking forward to the weekend it's the first line of the film man it's got to be on

the money here don't bully me all right i can't take it i was cyber bullied within an inch of my life last night if i what i love to think about this is a it's a puzzle and each of every one of us is an interval piece that puts a big picture in which we're all together it puts a big picture and so it lets us to see the big picture yeah here's some money go see a star war

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of TVTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

Is it too early to get a fish sandwich?

My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. You paint your bald spot? What bald spot? Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, where it's still cloudy and rainy and cold this morning. I was out for a little morning exercise and at some point realized my hands were going numb because it's that cold on April the 29th. Had me feeling, you know, a little bit grumpy. But I'm actually excited, though, because when I'm done here with TVTL, I'm going to jump in the car and head on down to Eugene, Oregon for a live wire tonight at the Holt Center.

What a fun, sexy time for you.

So if you're in the Eugene area, maybe come hang out and see us there. Or just, I don't know, sit by your podcasting device and listen to this episode 3673 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. I have kind of gotten into this TikTok. I don't know if you call it a trend. It's a micro trend, if anything. But this thing that a few people are doing on TikTok. And it is kind of oddly mesmerizing. I want to talk about that. Also, the cool story of this, I think he was a guy that worked in tech. And as part of his job, he traveled all the time. Like half of the year, he was just staying in different hotels. And he was sort of wondering, what happens to all the soap from hotels? because it's very unlikely that any of us would use, and even the hotel soap, which is smaller, it's unlikely we would use an entire bar of it if we're just staying for, like, one night. So what happens? He had an idea.

I'm an ideas man, Michael. I think I proved that with F*** Mountain.

It's a pretty cool story that I want to tell you about. Also, because it's Friday, a.k.a. Fri-yay, we're going to play some music for your weekend, and I would like to say that in all the years we've been doing this, I don't know how many years music for your weekend has been a thing. I don't know if that's been since, like, the early days of the show or if that's a relatively new, I mean, by new I mean within the last ten years thing, but in all of the musics for all of your weekends, I don't think I've ever picked a song that I know in advance the listeners are going to like less. So stick around for that, why don't you? And stick around for this guy, the longest-running Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's a four foot six pile of awesome, and he made a solemn oath here on this Friday about what he will and won't be doing.

I won't trash talk. I won't be out there blowhard.

He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Sweet Cream District of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. I just realized I don't have any funny anecdotes for you at the top of the show today. You got anything? You get trapped in any elevators lately? I told Genevieve about that. I was so beside myself yesterday that you got trapped in an elevator.

That was the most excited I've heard you on the show in a long time.

You get trapped in an elevator on Sunday, and you don't even bring it up until Thursday as an afterthought near the end of the show. That's how exciting my life is. Oh, yeah.

That's how exciting my life is. Well, I don't know. Well, one thing. This isn't exciting, but that was the closest I've ever seen.

ever come to saying the roosevelt neighborhood of seattle washington since you've been living in this week my mouth started to form an r and i caught myself and switched it over again maybe we've we've gotten through the the danger zone on that but i just it's when you let your guard down well that's what i'm thinking it's when you finally it's when i it's when i relax that i will forget where you live and i will introduce you through just sort of muscle memory or distraction as being in your old neighborhood. Here's the thing that I'm dealing with would be overstating it. But here's something that happened to me this week that was interesting. So I have a friend from my high school years, let's say, who kind of, I'm looking for my phone here. I'm trying to find this particular interaction, who will very occasionally just kind of dropped me a line here and there he sent me a message that said my mom saw you on 60 minutes wish i would have caught that and like i could have corrected him but i kind of like the idea that he thinks i work for 60 minutes like that's way more badass than sunday morning you know peace and love to jane paulie and the crew um but um i get these very i don't know if you have people in your life like this andrew who just send you like every eight months you'll just get a very out of the blue text and and then that's just kind of and then maybe you respond and then it's another six or eight months it's not really a conversation it's just again it's a feels a bit random i think i know what you're talking about so i get a text wednesday 8 12 p.m tom holland reminds me so much of you when we were kids now i believe tom holland is the person who's currently playing spider-man indeed yes and i haven't seen any of those spider-man movies but what i know about tom holland is he uh is dating uh zendaya and i know that tom holland is a very very cute i mean he's very cute it's a weird word to put it he's a very conventionally attractive man he's also i believe fairly diminutive i want to say he's in the range of like five seven or something and i of all the people that i've ever been compared to tom holland's not on the list and and like childhood tom holland um like me and my childhood being like tom holland i took it to be a high compliment but i don't know how to take compliments or even how to respond to that so then i said i'll take it i mean tom holland with zits to be precise because i didn't have i had some pretty i still have not great skin so i guess what i mean is i have bad skin and i had it back then uh one of the things tom holland not known for his zits so that's what i was trying to clarify and then the response from this person well you don't look like him now i just mean back when we

were in school wait that's a that's a that's kind of a accidental savage burn right it's just it's implying that you're that you're a pimple face now or did i or that i've lost my my youthful tom

holland-esque look yeah no matter how you cut that up yeah like there's no universe like i guess i've belied my own point because of course i just said i still kind of have zits which is true but i wasn't refer i wasn't saying the difference between me and tom holland yeah now 2022 is that i have pimples i'm saying the difference between me at age 16 and tom holland at age whatever he now that difference i mean there were many of them but the one i was pointing out was that i had bad skin and for this person who again is actually a very lovely person i like them we just have an odd we have an odd text banter or i wouldn't call it banter we have an odd text exchange for him to then clarify that i don't look like tom holland now it's like yeah i assumed i did i i i mean if you've ever seen a picture of me or have you ever seen a picture of tom holland no one would ever confuse i mean me now or me as a child but definitely not

me now i am trying to think if i if i have every now and then i will get a text message from a number that i don't for some reason my phone doesn't recognize i do think i have a couple of contacts that for some reason haven't been and and i'll get a note out of the blue from someone but i don't think i have this kind of miscommunity oh you know what i'm thinking of and now i'm realizing he might he might hear this and this is more of a conversation that i want to have with you off the show but since i came with nothing today let's just do this wow you and i got some messages from our pal mike pesca a couple of weeks ago when you and i were talking about i think listening to things at the gym and he sent us a couple of notes saying hey this is funny you were listening you said that you were at the gym or in your little gym area listening to his show the gist and then we got some messages later in the day saying hey this is funny i'm at the gym right now listening to do to too beautiful to live and you guys are talking about listening to the gist while you're at the gym right um and those came into me this is it always it almost scares me when this happens to me I don't know what people are doing but it came in as an email from a phone number like it didn't come into my phone I was sitting behind my desk and it came into my gmail and did this happen to you as well and it said like you're getting these random messages from a phone number and it's coming into my gmail account I had to look up the phone number and then I saw in my contacts I was like oh oh and so I think he might have maybe he was texting you but accidentally auto-filled my email address but that happens to me a lot from my phone and

also i receive messages from folks like um for a long time the executive producer of livewire laura hadn't i kept getting texts from her email account and other people will tell me sometimes you know that you're texting me from your email it's i think it is one of the vagaries of at least in my case the uh you know apple system where it'll just i don't know why it toggles back and forth maybe it feels like it can't find a signal for the cell phone so it defaults but it's it's

annoying and confusing you know and it's not that big of a deal i wasn't just trying to name check uh pesca but like i i was just trying to remember because i did get a kind of a what i for a moment thought was kind of a disjointed email from serve yeah like a disjointed kind of email from somebody that i didn't know and at first i was kind of like this person is talking about listening to our show so this is a listener i don't know but they have my email address i just i was confused for a second until i realized and you guys are both probably on the you know the apple platform or whatever the ios i can't i can't talk technology um but uh whatever was happening is probably auto corrected and he doesn't text me all that often so probably something just got auto filled not that big of a deal but it was a little bit i don't know i felt a little alarmed at first i was

like what is this what is it because what did you think was going on did you think the listener had hacked into had figured out your your um your real email account basically i thought maybe it

was some listener that maybe i had emailed a long long long long time ago maybe for some project or something and then they were just hitting me up with a random thought but it's just there's something strange about when it comes in it also looks kind of like spam or something like you're getting an email from like a series of numbers at att.net or something i don't think it was actually att.net nobody from ma bell yeah it said garfield one two three two three did you think maybe that

you were being served with papers a la what happened to olivia wilde by way of jason

sudeikis did you hear this no this craziness wait a second no no is is olivia wilde well you just tell me the story i'm not gonna try to piece this together without any knowledge

Jason Sudeikis, who is now very well known as Ted Lasso Of course, many other projects, including SNL I don't think he was married, but he was engaged to be married to The actor and director, Olivia Wilde, for a good amount of time They have two children together And then the story goes that Olivia Wilde was filming She was maybe directing a film that starred one Harry Styles and they fell in love and she um ended her relationship with jason sudeikis and i believe is currently dating harry styles now if i'm a guy and i lose my partner uh fiance what have you to harry styles i'm both very hurt by that because you knew that was going to happen he's harry styles and i'm also like well it was harry styles what are you gonna do yeah um but it was this was all kind of unfolding at the same time that the ted lasso phenomenon was really taking off and there's just this kind of general love towards jason sudeikis and his kind of aw shucks kansas uh niss right like he's you know famously he's from kansas he loves the jayhawks he's kind of a sort of a aw shuck sporty kind of guy that's at least you know how it comes off in public i've never met him and then you've got you know this a person who he's you know tied to who then uh goes off and falls for the world's like hottest male pop star well so they're going through a breakup and there were some he needed to serve her with some paperwork i think related to some custody stuff and while olivia wilde was at a comic-con doing that kind of panel for this new film the one that harry styles is in the one that if you were just going to kind of flatten the story out more or less torpedoed her relationship with jason sudeikis of course things are always much more complicated than that but whatever we'll go with this narrative because it's more cinematic she's on stage she's promoting the film in front of a big crowd the film that changed the course of her relationship life and a process server shows up with the paperwork and serves her in front of them and so then the whole thing was how dare jason sudeikis even do that to her and then jason sudeikis or his i guess representatives had to say jason sudeikis had no idea when the process server was going to do this like you know that's not how i've never served anyone with papers i've been served it's not fun it's just confusing you want to talk about yeah that's why when you mentioned the uh the email coming in it's very weird i got

i've been i've been you got served i've been served one time and it was like where were you i was at my house in seattle and i got a knock on the door and i opened the door and a guy said are you luke burbank and i said yes and then he just handed me a big envelope of paper was he wearing

a trench coat and sunglasses and the fedora it was mcgruff the crime dog actually that's interesting

then how did he say doing crack and cocaine to get high um it was a i mean i was like i'm bummed

that you're serving me but i thank you for the entertainment he said take a bite out of marriage

yeah this this one wasn't marriage related believe it or not um you'd think with all of the with all of the marital difficulties i've had you think there would have been some process serving in there somewhere but that never happened um anyway so it was this the story was damn jason sudeikis he a stone cold killer he served her and in her moment of promotion and then the response was he has that's not how that works you don't you don't call up mcgruff and say she's gonna be at the comic-con get her like that's not your job as the person who has hired someone to do the paper serving um it was just the thing where whoever was doing the serving the paper i guess what probably saw like a listing on the internet of where olivia wilde was going to be and was like well uh that's a that's as easy and particularly considering olivia wilde is a celebrity and probably lives presumably lives somewhere behind you know gates and security of some kind and would be fairly difficult to just happen upon like the way that somebody just came up to my front door and knocked on it you couldn't really do that probably so this probably was the best opportunity

for that person on stage though because i guess the moment that she walks off stage he can't get

access anymore if she's whisked if she's whisked away this is i mean because i'm trying to yeah i

feel like this person enjoyed doing it like is this something that probably enjoy doing like

well i mean how often does that how often does something like that even happen like yeah of course this is the best day of your life if you're if you're a process server like this is this is as i mean other than maybe like serving someone at the oscars and that's not a well someone was served at the oscars wow that's beneath the dignity of even this program andrew and it's making me

wait was it the was it my just terrible word play or was it actually the substance no i liked it i

just want to take the i just for once want to take the moral high ground of this program but um yeah you know i'm sure that the person who handed over the envelope was loving it i mean that's as that's the biggest stage you're ever going to be on you know usually you're just like you're running you're you're in a walmart parking lot jogging after someone who's like just going back to their car i'm sure it's generally much less um kind of public than this but it's also just weird to me that this is still the system of how certain paperwork is you know because obviously i guess the theory is you have to get the person to identify who they are and then you hand them like i might i didn't this is there's probably footage of this somewhere actually i mean if it was at a comic-con but my understanding of it is the person has to acknowledge who they are like verbally i think you walk up and you say are you olivia wilde and they say yes now maybe in this case if she has a like a what do you call those little like not a name tag but something on the table in front of her that says who she is that's true maybe there's a certain amount of just kind of like corroborating evidence that as the process server you can say this it was like this person just was introduced on stage beyond a shadow of a doubt who they are i don't actually know that's it's interesting because one of the things i was thinking was this process server probably if they hadn't done it in this public moment and let's say that then olivia wilde was like whisked off to the green room or a back room he couldn't just like he i felt like he had to get face to face with her to say are you olivia wilde and or i'm assuming it was a man actually i don't know what the process server's gender was but whoever the person was like i wonder if they had to also get olivia wilde to acknowledge who see who she was or if or if there's a certain level of celebrity or like you said someone just been introduced that you can kind of just like wave the rest of it. Yeah, I'm looking for the video. It's like there's a bunch of videos of it, but it's that thing where, like, news organizations have grabbed still photos and are wrapping around. And I don't know if there's any just, like, kind of raw audio of this at least. What would be a better or worse job for you? Somebody who serves papers or repo man? Paper server. I think I would take server. Better. Paper server better. Better. Not great, though. I'd be terrible. I would be so bad at both those jobs. Oh, I kind of like it.

because it's like what are they going to do you hand them the paperwork and then it's like hot potato like i wouldn't even mind it i think it'd be like i liked being a booker yeah when i worked on uh you know like uh various public radio shows i kind of liked the challenge of trying to like

find somebody and like you know yeah i like this case it was hard but i feel like the serving the papers is just like i would just feel bad i think repo that would that it would be that job is is

terrible and i mean just the amount of is that still first of all oh yeah like later i want to tell you about this tiktok thing i've been watching that's weird but like there's a lot of like repo tiktok there are people out there repossessing like tough sheds andrew like i've seen it like really what are you gonna do with that tough shed like who you take it back to the place i mean it's been sitting in a grass field for however long like what is the resale value of that when as compared to the cost of repossessing it like yeah i mean you think of cars there are people they repossess you know mobile homes like there are some stuff that gets repossessed that's just like how like how is it worth dragging that somewhere yeah it's whatever

that punitive it's like you're spending money on the labor to have this and i think it is and

probably the argument is well you have to put some fear into people that that you know if you don't pay your bills this will be repoed even though at some point it's probably costing more money to go grab the you know the Pontiac Aztec or whatever I mean and then that's a whole thing too is like in a way it's like you know the people who haven't paid their bills now there's a whole range of reasons why people don't pay their bills sometimes it's they don't have the money sometimes it's that they just think they can get away with not paying that particular bill when it seems to be the latter of course I have a little bit less sympathy for folks like um but there is certainly on some of these videos that i've seen a particular delight that these are repo and it's generally men these repo guys get like out of you know jacking someone's car up and getting it out of there and like you know that part i wouldn't i don't think i would take a lot of joy in that yeah definitely

can i uh make a prediction not a prediction but a guess about something you seem like you would hate the movie repo man have you seen i do hate the movie yeah it seems like the movie calculated because it's both like kind of cheap and campy which you don't necessarily go for um and then it mixes in like this pretty like this weirdness this dark unexplained sci-fi weird darkness it seems like it would give you quote unquote the bad feeling it has andrew given me the bad feeling for

about probably 35 years of my life. Well, stop watching it. Peter Williams and I rented it. You know me. I've got my habits. I've got my rituals. That's on you. So Peter Williams and I were obsessed with the movie Wisdom starring Emilio Estevez and Demi Moore. They are sort of modern day Bonnie and Clydes.

Now you hit the Z hard there. Is it actually Wisdom or something?

No, it's just wisdom it's like w-i-s-d-o-n okay so wisdom um i think his last name is wisdom i mean it's my guess is that it is not you know a particularly nuanced film but it's basically emilio estevez and demi moore and they're going around doing bank robberies and it just seemed badass to us and he had this like green army jacket that had like an american flag kind of like a smallish american flag like i don't know what you'd call it iron on on the back and i don't know why this just captivated our imaginations but we just thought it was so friggin cool that at some point he and i both had green army jackets that we had then ironed small american flag iron ons onto the back nice to basically be as much like emilia estevez in this film as possible and you'd wear

them around together or you made sure only one person was wearing the jacket i that i can't tell

you my guess is we didn't wear them at the same time or maybe we didn't even have them at the same time but so that was so i just thought amelia estevez was like the coolest dude on earth from that movie and then this other movie repo man we saw it at the like you know at the video rental at greg's green lake market as we were making our friday night pilgrimage up there to get a two liter of pepsi all of the like day-old donuts that were wrapped in cellophane and if we Okay. had a little money left over, some kind of Totino's pizza roll sitch. And then we would rent like a couple of movies. And of course we see Emilio Estevez and is John, is Charlie Sheen the other one? Is it like a brother's pick? Let me look it up. I didn't think so. I thought it was just Emilio, but let me look it up. Anyway, I just remember seeing him on the cover and being like, oh, I love that guy from, from wisdom. And so thinking that it was going to be that kind of movie and then just being totally confused and just like, like you said there is a darkness to that film that i was not ready for as a 13 year old yeah

it was just emilio and then um harry dean stanton is in it and then i thought who's his sidekick

though he's going around with someone in the movie it's two guys yeah it's harry it's harry

dean stanton i believe harry dean stanton he's the one he if i recall now i haven't seen this in forever and this seems like the type of movie and i'm actually thinking of specific listeners in our audience who i don't know for a fact but i assume are way into this movie and this is like a cult you know favorite so i'm sure that the people who like this are way into it and they need to just just gently just gently put their phones down on the table in front of them right now just walk away for a moment maybe even just skip this part of the podcast because i haven't seen this since college i rented this on a vhs in college and also it had been so hyped i remember being a little like oh i could use a little bit more linear narrative here i remember not really loving it either although i'd like to go back and maybe watch it also in the criterion collection is it yeah i mean it is like a classic in its own way this film yeah i want to watch it again but my memory is that harry dean stanton is the old grizzled repo man oh and emilio estevez is going around like learning underneath him but but you know dean stanton is like doing drugs and he's teaching emilio how to i think they're like i think they're sniffing things off of a dashboard at times it's like it's just like a drug drug fueled bizarre and then they're going around repossessing things um you know in the cover of night as one would i assume uh but then also there's another i'm blanking isn't there another um older guy in this who's like the scientist guy the tracy walter is that the guy's name and what do we know do you know who else appears to be in this movie yeah tracy walter is exactly who i'm talking about do you know who's in this movie

at least according to the internet Jimmy Buffett

oh wow I wonder if it's just like a quick cameo in a bar or something now this is where I get confused and this is where the podcast really takes a grumpy but um Andrew when I see Tracy Waller that's my job I always think Fisher Stevens I don't know I don't know either of their names but I always think that this guy Tracy Walter looking at his face that he played Bob in the original batman in 1989 the henchman bob that is the same guy oh i thought i was confusing him with somebody

else okay good no i think you're right i think he i think he was in uh yeah he was in batman and i want to say okay great look at me being smart yeah it's an andrew w friday now i'm gonna take i'm gonna do something i'm gonna go from why am i doing this because we we actually got you got one thing right and now why am i gonna like he looks not unlike also a guy that was in uhf

yes i think and i watched uhf recently which is why i think i confused these two people and that's

why i thought i was wrong again here so it's not that guy it's somebody else who it's not emo phillips how can you tell and it's not michael richards and it's not kevin mccarthy andrew who's also in UHF that's right and who it's not Getty Watanabe it's not Fran Trescher nope not Michael Richard Jackson I think it's maybe this guy David Bowe I don't know how you say his name but I think he might have been I felt like there was a guy in UHF in a fedora who was the engineer I felt like his name was Farnsworth wasn't there a character named Farnsworth who was the like who was the engineer at the uhf station i'm out of my element donnie and oh oh you know what i think his name might have been philo i think his name was philo and i think he's played by somebody named anthony geary okay well you're right not the guy not the guy from the batman not the guy from batman and the guy from repo men but also that dude whatever what was his name again tracy walter bob is he

only allowed to be in movies that have men in the title or man oh batman repo man yeah actually i'm looking this up and i hate you know i know that people don't like it when we only um read from the internet but yeah there was a law passed and it was passed in 1981 it looks like um and it's

called the tracy walter man law um i should go back and actually watch the original repo men because i wonder i i feel myself and i feel myself changing and maybe i do think i have a much higher tolerance now for

things that are a little bit less linear than I used to and even the music for your weekend selection that I want to play that I've already already previewed will be the least popular music for your weekend ever played on this show is a version of that like I just and you know I'm only 40 about to be 46 years old so it's it's only taken 46 years but I just feel like I have a little bit more patience for things that i don't understand every second of and so it's possible i mean this movie like you said is it's got a real fan base i mean and they read they rebooted it with jude law and forrest whitaker what i didn't know that yeah 2010 they remade it why um wait and i think i know why it had something to do with money i believe i believe that would Although, you know, if you take a cult film, like, that's, you know, there are people, obviously, as you mentioned, we have listeners who probably love this movie, but, like, I wonder who in Hollywood, who were the Hollywood wizards who said that's the one that needs to be remade? like it's such a strong plot that if and it has such a fan base you know usually when they remake a movie it's like they're always remaking these you know batman movies because there's already a massive fan base for the franchise so you can just make more money by having robert pattinson be the batman and now a bunch of the same people will go see it i wonder why repo man was on that list Repo Men Repo Man Well, 2010 was called Repo Men Oh, I see So they remade it with a slightly different name Oh, interesting Yeah, I think it was The first one was Repo Boys And this was Becoming Repo Men Repo Boys Becoming Repo Men That's a real werewolf bar mitzvah It truly is Alright Good. We should take a break. Are we done with the show or just that segment? I lost my place. I think permanently done with the show, honestly. We threaten that more and more. I've actually had a good time talking with you this morning, but I don't feel like I'm really contributing much. No, no, no. That's not true. I feel like we really just kind of whimpered out there. Sorry about that, audience. No, I don't feel that way. I'm actually having a nice time talking to you as well. I said to you yesterday off air, and this is a true thing, of the various jobs that I have, This is my favorite job And if I could only have one job It would be this job Although I don't really know how I would support my high flying lifestyle Of you know Buying my Roomba a Roomba Have you thought about just engaging in a long term relationship With Genevieve That's how I survive Lining up for the palimony For that sweet sweet palimony Is palimony when your friend gets paid out by your partner Is that really Because that's palimony Dig into the legal

So, Andrew, dig deep into the law, and you will see that as your pal, Genevieve, owes me. And I will be serving her at the next Comic-Con to collect my palsamony like a repo boy. All right, let's take a quick break, and then when we come back, I do want to talk about this thing I've been watching on TikTok that's oddly intriguing. Stay with us here on TBTL.

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Let's thank some dazzling donors who are making TBTL possible with their extremely generous monthly donation. It's truly dazzling. We've had a very fruitful meeting with our friends at APM, John and Emily, about the plan for the upcoming TBTL-a-thon, which is going to be uh may 23rd through 27th uh i have to mention andrew you know we're doing that trivia night in denver on the 27th and um just so happens the folks from wait wait reached out and asked me if i could come do wait wait in san francisco on that same night so i can i zoom in can you zoom in to the wait wait or can you zoom i'll zoom into the tbtl thing could you just like So that's kind of interesting. Could you Tupac hologram me in? What if they bring Wait Wait to Denver? Oh, the people in San Francisco who purchase tickets are going to be bummed to hear that. They can travel. Everybody's mobile. No, I am absolutely, Andrew, 100% committed to TBTL on 13 Let the Fun Begin because, A, it's going to be really fun, And B, it is our once-a-year chance to remind everyone that the only way this show exists is because of the listener donations. Listeners like John Stedman in Arlington, Virginia. John writes, I never know what to put here when it's time to write it. I always think of things afterwards.

Maybe I'll keep a list for next year. I've got to get my TBTL daily fix. It's better than the today's coffee I made yesterday. That's a pretty good one. You know, John, you could use the patented Burbank system, which is I text myself constantly. Do you know that my—I'm not even kidding, Angie. Do you know my text from myself to myself is my main— Like it's the main repository for every thought, every drop, every story I see that we could talk about on this show. Anything I want to remember, I text it to myself. And then every day I go back through and I scroll through or in the morning I get up and I look back through my text to myself. Because a lot of times I'll see an article and I just share it with myself.

See, I do that exact same thing with Gmail. Well, not the exact same thing because I'll kind of start different threads for myself. But I'm constantly emailing like intro tape or, you know, if you text if you text me a possible intro tape from TikTok or something else, I'll have to email it to myself. Because when I sit down behind my computer to do my job in the morning, I will see here are emails, whereas text messages are kind of like all over the place. I will sometimes text myself like if I'm going to the store. It's weird. I have I have lists for grocery lists and what have you. But then, you know, in a different app. But it's like if I need something specific, like if I if if I'm picking up sandwiches and Genevieve asks me to pick her up one, I'll put her order. I'll text her order to myself. Or if I'm going to Home Depot to get a piece of wood cut to the size of my closet, as I did the other day, I'll text myself the dimensions. But on an Android and I bet you it's not like this on your phone on an Android. It looks like a conversation with myself. I end up getting two texts that kind of say the same thing. That happens on Apple as well. As a sender and a receiver, and it just makes you seem like you're not—

Which feels annoying. I don't like that. I wish there was a way to merge those two things, but there isn't, so it just is what it is. But my message to John is start texting yourself all of your genius thoughts for next year's Dazzling Donor message, and then you'll know what to say. Although I think today's coffee that you made yesterday is a pretty good spoof, and we should play that intro tape at some point again. That's quality stuff. It is. John, thank you so much for the support all the way out there in Arlington, Virginia. We really do appreciate you. Thank you for making the show possible. Maestro?

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We also want to thank Dazzling Donor Jennifer Vedder up there in Bellingham, Washington. I've heard of that place. I know it. Great antique mall. It's a cool town. Yeah. uh jennifer says i've been listening since luke's year of suits oh boy that was a year

that was sure a year was 2012 maybe because we were both working at uh cairo radio at the time

yeah i kind of missed that you know for for people who don't know what that's a reference to i decided to wear a suit five days a week for a year just to kind of see what would happen And I really actually liked it. I wouldn't rule that out if I worked in a, you know, a five-day-a-week office environment again. Like, my thought was—I mean, the story I've told a million times was I was looking at an old picture, and it was of people at a baseball game. I think it might have been Ebbets Field or something. And everybody just looked real kind of dapper to me. And this was the, like, the cheap seats, the hoi polloi. I mean, this was, like, you know, circa 1950-something. And I thought—I kind of like that. Also, suits are flattering. I mean, they're designed to be flattering. There's a reason why a lot of times when you put a suit on, people will go, oh, wow. I know that's probably your least favorite experience on planet Earth, Andrew, is putting on a suit and having people comment on it.

You know, if I'm wearing a suit and people comment on it, that's fine. I do think, like you say, suits, if you get the right one, suits are meant to be flattering and they're cut to be flattering. So that is good. You can look good in a suit. But I got to say, I never have gotten to a point where I feel comfortable in it because it always feels a little bit constraining to me. But, again, I grew up really frumpy and kind of ashamed of my body. So I always liked the oversized everything. My pants are oversized. My shirt is oversized. It's actually a terrible look. But psychologically, I feel better if I don't feel like I'm pushing the constraints of the garments, you know.

I've always been somebody. Well, that's not true. In my adulthood, I think I've always been somebody who has a sort of uniform, and the uniform changes. Like right now my uniform is I generally wear a black Everlane T-shirt underneath this one of these two chore coats that I have. I have this Patagonia one. It's not really a chore coat, but it's like a fleece. But imagine like a collared shirt that's fleece, but it's a little bigger, so I wear it kind of like a jacket. and I just wear that over a black t-shirt and my same pair of J.Crew jeans like every single day unless I'm going to somewhere nice in which case i put on this one particular blue penguin collared shirt underneath a different short coat i just like knowing what i'm dealing with every day and not like reinventing the wheel i'm not big on like loud stuff patterns stuff like that i just don't like taking any chances anymore because if i take a chance on an outfit i feel really kind of in my head about it all day i'd rather just wear something that i've always worn that's pretty much dark basic colors anyway the suit thing was a version of that even though it seems very much like an affectation Which it kind of was But also it was It took a lot of the decision making Out of my day Sure I had five suits I had five suits I had like ten collared shirts And I would just get up in the morning And put on the shirt Put on the suit And go There was no I didn't have to do any complicated I wasn't staring at my closet Going what are we going to do today And after I you know After I got through The initial embarrassment of it It really did feel pretty natural By the end of the whole thing

I know that we need to read This dazzling donor message But I just want to say that I am in a weird phase of my life right now with clothes and it has to do with, you know, working from home is something that you and I have been doing since before the pandemic. But also just like not going out hardly at all, you know, during the two years of the lockdown or whatever it was, I think maybe change things like I'm not a shopper. I've never really enjoyed shopping, but I've always had, you know, especially back when I had to show up at an office place. I might not have been the best dressed fellow in the office. I never was. But, like, I always had buttoned down shirts that were presentable, you know, and some sort of jeans or slacks that are presentable slacks. Hello, fellow kids. How do you like my slacks? Ew. So anyway, let's just move on and just say that I've been working from home for so long and not really going out much during the actual lockdown or whatever that I didn't realize that almost all of my shirts, for some reason, the left sleeve has a hole right by the elbow. And these are mostly just they're becoming threadbare and develop. First of all, Genevieve is like, you got your sharp elbows. But it's like I put on like I have I have some shirts that are just like these are my tonight shirts. i only wear them around the house to work or to relax right and then i have some that like oh these are presentable for public but i wouldn't wear them to like you know if i was meeting somebody for dinner and then i have a few shirts that are like you know nicer yeah put this on and go to dinner um not nice but just again quasi presentable um and the ones that i've just been taking for granted as quasi presentable every one that i put on i'm like oh this also has a hole in the i haven't bought a new shirt one yeah for some reason it seems to be left it must have something to do

with maybe when if I must rest your elbows yeah maybe when you're doing some kind of work or maybe if you go out for dinner with folks and then you end up you know you all go to a bar well that that would be solo I was gonna say maybe when you're sitting at the bar if you're looking at your phone do you use your left arm for it is there some repetitive motion that we can relate back to this

thread bareness I as much as I love being in bars I would say probably the majority of my day is here behind my desk and so I'm wondering wondering if it has something to do with like my arm my right arm is flat on the table because i'm you know it's always hovering over the mouse i guess and maybe i'm maybe i'm leaning my left elbow on the table but we're in denver i'm going to analyze

this and i'm going to have five brought this up solid days to stare you down and look at your body positioning and what is happening we're going to get to the bottom of this may 23rd through 27th speaking of yes speaking of donations jennifer vetter and bellingham was mentioning that she's been listening since the suit times. She says, I've always been a bit shy, though. At one of the Chateau Saint-Michel events, I was dishing up right next to Andrew, and I couldn't bring myself to say hi. I don't even know how many times I've wanted to write in. I grew up near the Crest Theater. Awesome. Jennifer. Love it. I gotta go to the Crest. I mean, really, some of my very, very best movie memories of my life are at the Crest. Really, they start at the 7-Eleven across the street from the Crest, where I would buy snacks and then hide them in my coat and then go into the crest i'm only a few years older than you guys for years we were living in columbia city and i often knew the exact places you were discussing it's taking me years to participate and i considered it a major moment in my life when you played my message about our dell computer um so what to write well jennifer says shit's about to get real i started listening when i was at home on maternity leave with my first those were incredibly hard days for me i knew about postpartum depression but i didn't know what it could feel like i struggled with truly terrible thoughts when i was home alone and i'm not exaggerating when i say i think the two of you may have saved our lives listening to you would remind me of the real world i felt a connection to you and the tens and i knew that i belonged to something Thank you. even though the depression was telling me something else i try to be really honest about this time because i just wasn't prepared and quite frankly someone could have gotten hurt still scares me to think about thank you for being the beautiful flawed really jennifer flawed that's gonna be your takeaway that's my takeaway from this andrew flawed thank you for being the beautiful flawed humans that you are to the tens listening if you are having those dark thoughts tell someone you are loved and wanted yeah we certainly are yeah jennifer thank you for um thanks for sharing that with us that's a obviously something that's extremely personal and it's intense to even read about and i can't even imagine how intense it's been for you to live that um so thank you for sharing that with the listeners as well and and letting folks know who are going through something similar um that you know that you there is another side to it you

can come out on the other side of it so yeah i read this appreciate that i read this yesterday and i was thinking about it all day yesterday for whatever that's worth especially the the the connection to early motherhood as well because obviously that's just not something that is in my life right um and uh and so i think i and i don't know if i'm wrong here if i'm extrapolating too much but it must be in a specifically tough scenario if this sort of depression this postpartum depression is so common um but also it's during a time when people are just just congratulating you and they only see the beauty of of a new family member and congratulations congratulations congratulations and if you're struggling with dark thoughts during that specific time that's It's just like it sounds like almost an impossible situation that I hadn't really spent time thinking about or truly considering before. And even for me, like I think this will stay with me, I hope, in when I think about the people around me, maybe who are new moms, you know, and maybe reach out and maybe be there a little bit more. So honestly, Jennifer, even just for me right now, I think that you sharing this note has hopefully changed me a bit. And I hope for others as well, no matter what kind of, you know, what your personal perspective on this would be.

Well said. Jennifer, thank you for sharing that with us. And thanks for, you know, being part of the show. We love you and we're glad to glad to have you here. That's for sure. hello and welcome to top story all right slight hard pivot here andrew to this thing that i saw in mel magazine uh i think i put a link in like yesterday when i wanted to talk about i don't know

if you've clicked on it no i didn't watch it this is the tiktok thing right yeah and it's of course

I mean, even by TikTok standards, it's highly visual. So it's like it's let's see here if I can even get I'm trying to get to the particular page at Mel magazine. What it basically is, is this, you might say, very odd trend of people who are very good at at drawing, like kind of like a sort of pencil drawing of someone. This is a piece by Magdalene Taylor in Mel magazine. the tiktokers giving tv characters sick revenge bods so i'm glad i didn't click on this again like i can play you the music uh from it let me see i'm just gonna i'm trying to find the original article here so i can just play you the song that goes with it the song is by the way it doesn't have any words in it doesn't it doesn't say anything about revenge bods it's just like uh Let's see, talkers giving. I have to type this in, like, exactly, so I'll just get to this article because I can't. Here we go. I can't find it on. Anyway, okay, here we go. I think, wait, somebody else is reading. Andrew, why? The SEO is so strong. So I'm trying to find, sorry, this is not the interesting part of the story. Do you just want me to find?

Because I keep all of our old show sheets. Do you just want me to send you the link? You just send me the link? Yeah, sorry about that.

So I put in the exact search terms for the headline of the Magdalene Taylor piece in Mel Magazine. And what does it do, Andrew? Some repurposer thing. SEOs, figures out the SEO, and then siphons me, tricks me into ending up over on a thing that's not even the original article. It's somebody else getting some free clicks off of the article.

Well, I sent you the link, but here's the deal. I still don't want to click on it yet because I need to represent the audience here who hasn't seen it. So you describe it for me. I will end this by clicking on it, I'm sure.

So here's what happens in these videos, and there are a bunch of them now. This is what Magdalene writes. Breaking Bad was a pretty good show, I'd say, though it was missing a key element. Neither Jesse or Mr. White ever got. fucking swole we never got to witness the duo pumping iron or getting into peak physical shape together um wouldn't you still have liked to know what heisenberg would have looked like as a bodybuilder fortunately there's fan art on tiktok tiktok that can help fill this void not just for breaking bad but for shows like spongebob courage the cowardly dog and the simpsons so the way this stuff works is it'll be a series of like i said kind of pencil drawing so i'm going to play you the audio of the um i'm gonna play you the audio of the uh breaking bad one right so it starts with um jesse's um you know sort of girlfriend or i forget you know what the exact they never got married but you know i mean his um his girlfriend on breaking bad right so she says so it's a drawing of her and she says jesse i'm breaking up with you um and then let's see i gotta go back this is I also Andrew this is the most difficult thing for me to ever try to actually narrate through because the video keeps moving the text is getting too small okay so she says Jesse I'm breaking up with you your meth addiction has made you too effeminate so that's what she's saying to him then cut to Jesse who's just like in the throes of pain from the breakup going Mr. White jane broke up with me yo and then next thing you know just a shot of heisenberg or mr white or whatever you want to call him going jesse we need to lift and then cut to a like more degraded pencil drawing of jesse lifting in the gym zoom into mr white full-on like fedora his regular like heisenberg outfit or his whatever you know what i mean is when he's like when he's gone full badass And he's just like pumping some iron And now just A full on like Mr. Universe Jesse just flexing super hard And these are pencil drawings Pencil drawings and then just Mr. White Beyond swole like he's in One of those muscle contests where he has a tiny Speedo on and he's just Jack this is the music by the way to all of These And we find you another one there's one With Homer Simpson

Now weirdly I feel like I can picture this one I haven't clicked yet, but is there a tradition of making Simpsons characters swole? Because I feel like there was some meme of swole Bart or something.

Maybe that I don't know about. So this one starts with Marge. Again, pencil drawing of Marge. I want a divorce, Homer. I'm leaving you for Flanders, and I'm taking the kids. And then Homer is just crying. No, Marge, please don't. Cut to Homer looking into his beer and thinking about stupid, sexy Flanders, who, of course, one of the funny jokes on The Simpsons is that Flanders is really weirdly buff. He is cut, yeah. And now Homer's walking by something that says, All Night Jim, and he's still his kind of typical Homer body. And he's looking and he goes, Jim, what's a Jim? Cut to just a shot, just like a pencil drawing of his eyes, almost like a cartoon panel of just Homer's eyes. And now they're all bloodshot. And now he's just so swole. And he's also gotten a haircut so he doesn't look as doofy And he's wearing aviator shades And he goes Me and Marge don't talk no more TikTok's weird It's so weird But then there's a Spongebob one too That's just amazing It's like Patrick the Starfish Is being rejected by His lady friend Paramore Yeah I think let's see here Sandy I know nothing about Spongebob universe so so it's like he's you know sandy is basically saying i'm not interested in you i like guys that are in better shape and patrick starfish looks down at his starfish body and then cut to i'll show them now he's working out now he's lifting and now he is like the buffest starfish you've ever seen in your life and i've seen some buff starfish honestly this i mean this puts them all to shame again the this is extremely bad podcasting even by our standards but these things are so funny and weird to me and they typify what i sort of love about tiktok and i now hopefully there's not a undercurrent of toxic masculinity here that's not the part of it that sort of appeals to me and you know people want to email in about that they have every right to my point here is not that the way to get a person is to

get buff or whatever no it feels more like this is a commentary i mean to the degree i mean listen sometimes stuff is just weird for the sake of being weird but if anything this sounds more like a commentary on that kind of mentality right exactly it feels like a meta joke to me between

the music the characters they're picking it's it's and it's so it builds on this you know like original like somebody did one of them and then somebody else started kind of like taking it to even more ludicrous levels and now it's just kind of this funny one-ups person ship between these people that are actually also really good at drawing that's the other thing remember being in school and there was like the one kid that was hella good at drawing yes my friend tony you know

what's amazing is i pictured these drawings being much more simplistic i thought they were going to be kind of like almost hilariously bad um but no these are like with a like something well that i'm watching the simpsons one now and it's kind of like in the style of the simpsons but like the Walter White one like no oh it's like almost like photorealistic not photorealistic but like very very shaded and like very like kind of going for a realism with the pencil that I was not I was not ready for that I thought this was going to be real you know Luke my favorite phrase dank memes I thought this was going to be very dank there's nothing dank about this that's it's it's kind of

interesting on a couple of levels one is again I don't know how the people that create memes pick the music that they pick you know what i mean like that's one of the things about tiktok that i just find endlessly fascinating is the music that gets paired with like something that ends up becoming very memefied or showing up a lot in the for you page and the particular song that's selected because it never makes any sort of logical sense it's not like the song is about somebody is picking grapes and the song is about grapes like it's always like that song i just played you is so random to be put underneath some very photorealistic drawings of patrick the starfish getting swole like and i just find that to be so i i just don't have that kind of creativity i would pick the wrong song and then all and also like you like you said it's kind of i think a meta joke on maybe like toxic masculine culture and then also the drawings are good yeah like i was i was a terrible and i remain an absolutely terrible like artist i can't try anything except fargild but i was always like very intrigued by the kids in my classes growing like there was a kid named simpson wong who could really draw these would be the kids that would have graph paper sometimes so they could really get the like perspective or not the perspective but the proportions of everything right there was always just that kid who could just they could just draw so well and i was always extremely uh admiring of that slash jealous so i think this taps into that for me too like i wish i could draw a swole homer simpson like that you have to admit

that swole homer simpson is very funny it's great i want to say though i clicked on uh magdalene taylor's uh byline here to see what else she's contributed to mel magazine and um i see that i I think she actually landed an interview with the guy who was dunking his hot dogs in a beer at a baseball game. You saw this. Like, this was super viral this week. You know what I'm talking about, right? No, I do not. Oh, you don't. Okay. There is video of a fella, and it's like, it's not taken by him. He wasn't doing this for the gram, Luke. This was somebody else was sitting behind this fella at, I'm trying to see, was this, I feel like he was in, yeah, he was in, yeah, Yankee Stadium, I think. So he's watching the game and some folks behind him noticed that he had a cup of beer in his left hand and a hot dog in his right hand. And he was just casually watching the game and dipping his hot dog or glizzy, if you will, into the beer and then taking a bite out of it. Now, I talk a lot about liking hot dogs, which I do. So maybe that's why this was coming to me quite a bit. People were sending it to me and I just saw it around quite a bit. And I got to be honest with you. It's not something that I don't want to overstate this It's not something that I'm tempted to do Necessarily I think the idea of a wet bun Is off-putting to me Generally speaking But as far as food things are concerned And I know I'm weird with food This isn't outside the realm Of possibility for me It's not hard for me to understand Why somebody might enjoy this And the person They've now identified this person This is a quote. I think his name is Kareem Rama. And it says that he was feeling homesick for something that he used to eat in Wisconsin, a beer soaked brat. Now, that's a brat that's cooked in beer is one thing. But apparently he's like recreating this. And then this is a quote for him. For days, people were texting me this video and asking, is this you? I just said no, because I don't want to be known for that. And I was a little ashamed. But when I saw Jimmy Fallon talking about it, I was like, oh, that's my, oh, that's my intellectual property, dog. That's the quote from him. I'm starting to feel like a corn dog at a hot dog party, and it ain't flattering, I'll tell you that. And apparently the turn here is that he's standing by it. He's not going to be ashamed about this. Fallon and Elizabeth Moss were talking about it, and he says, first and foremost, I like to say that I'm a Mets fan. I grew up in Minneapolis. Oh, okay, so Minneapolis, not Wisconsin. But anyway, yeah, so he's standing by his decision to do this. And I got to say, I am hot dog beer curious now.

Well, the thing is, a lot of us would basically do this process, but just in a different order. It's extremely common at a ballgame to take a bite of a hot dog and then, you know, chase it with some beer. So you're just kind of reversing the order. again for me the idea of the hot dog bun being that saturated yeah yeah be a little bit unappealing but it's not very far off from what we're all if you have if you have hot dog in your mouth that you are chewing and then you drink beer while that's i mean you're combining those things in your mouth as opposed to outside of your mouth you know um you know in in the way this guy was doing it but yeah I'm with you I don't think it's some I don't think it's a felony and I don't think it's really as different from how many of us are consuming these products than we realize this I

have some more dazzling deets on this story and then I'll let it go but the glazzling gleets more glazzling gleets on the story so in this interview with Mel this does seem to be an exclusive so I'm need to start following this reporter these are quotes so I was at the Yankees game with my friend Teddy and I was missing home he says I haven't been home for a long time and I was like I should get a beer and a dog and just do a little dipping usually I use ketchup and mustard but I didn't want ketchup or mustard in my beer so I went with a plain hot dog which is very rare and very gross and it says ordinarily Rama dips a plain bunless hot dog into beers when he's feeling a little homesick but that I could get into as well because you're not sogging the bun yes I do I will eat bunless hot dogs but then i feel like even more i need to drag that thing through some ketchup mustard or barbecue sauce but it says he's at the game and he doesn't want to waste the bun he says that he just paid for this bun if i quote if i ate just the hot dog and dipped it in the beer it wouldn't fill me up and i'd probably have to spend more money getting more hot dogs right i just figured i'd kill two birds with one stone oh you didn't get the memo kareem it's you um fed Two birds with one scone, which still sounds dangerous for the birds. And do it like that is what he says. So anyway, there it is.

Well, I'm surprised that they're not just selling. You can't get a beer brat at Yankee Stadium. I wonder if that's like, you know how it is now at all baseball stadiums where there's the sort of standard thing. And then there'll be a couple of like sort of specialty stands. Yeah. I wonder if there was a line. Because you have to be able to get a brat that is soaked in beer at Yankee Stadium. You mean that's kind of cooked in beer? And then yeah, like the traditional kind of Midwest thing ever.

Yeah, sure.

I'm my guess would be that does exist, but it was probably like either not in the part of the stadium he was in or there was a huge long line or whatever. I mean, I guess what I would do if I were trying to get the beer brought experience would be. I and I know this makes no sense because it's again, it's not very different. I would take a bite of the hot dog and the bun and frankly all of the things I wanted to have on there. Part of the problem with this system for this guy is that it's now driving his condiment decisions which is kind of unfortunate I would dress the hot dog exactly as I wanted it to be, take a bite take a couple chews kind of get it in a manageable size and then take a slug of beer, let it all kind of co-mingle and then swallow. That to me seems like the idealized

version of this you know what i'm surprised about now that i think about this and this also ties into sort of a publicity stunt that tropicana orange juice is doing right now that listener andrea sent me this morning hey andrea um but before i get to that i'm thinking about how dipping foods into a beverage fundamentally changes that beverage right like or even putting sugar cereal into milk and then you know the the drinking of the milk afterwards because you've kind of you've now the sweetened sort of milk i'm thinking about eating oreos and i haven't had oreos in a long time but growing up i loved loved dipping oreos in milk and really just going to town um and then of course at the end the milk is oreo-fied right there's little bits of oreo in there and a sweet i am surprised that oreo hasn't as some sort of like kind of publicity stunt like released oreo milk which is like it's not like chocolate milk it's white milk but it's a little sweet with little bits of oreo in there couldn't you see that something that or like on a or maybe even on a april fool's day announced that they were going to do that the tropicana thing by the way is they've apparently released a cereal that is meant to be um eaten with orange

juice instead of milk gross release the clock that's disgusting i um i think here's the thing about the oreo milk idea i do think it's actually clever marketing but i wonder if there is some kind of when it comes to sort of like floating detritus if we instinctively like if we

we're okay with it if it's our detritus if we you know if it's this if it's if we dunked the oreos in the milk and um or did that kind of cool life hack where you put a fork in the cream part and then dip them and then you don't have to get your fingers in the milk yeah right we did that i wonder if there's something subconscious where it's not gross to us because we we dip to the cookie in the milk and so we kind of know the chain of custody but if we like if it's you just came you know you you're pouring i mean obviously it wouldn't be like the process would be they would have some commercial process where they would just you know smash up some oreo and throw it into some a certain amount of milk and they would have it all proportioned but i wonder if there's just something kind of uncanny that would make it like seem weird to buy milk that had something that reminds us of someone else's food leavens

yeah i think you're right about that which is i think one reason why and i would include myself I'm not a big fan of boba or bubble tea. I think those are the same thing, right? Yes. You can use those interchangeably. Yeah, it's not for me. And I'm not a big tapioca person anyway. I always wear it in a choke. Yeah, but the first time you have it, you're just like, whoa, what's happening there? Also, I think I have a similar thing with coconut water. I'd always heard of coconut water. I didn't really know what it was. And one day I was thirsty, and it for some reason sounded great. And then I drank it, and I was like, oh, no, what? Ah, there were floaties.

I don't mind coconut water, actually. i don't seek it out but like i i've certainly had plenty of it but yeah boba tea is is it reminds me of like what's the the movie like the abyss where they're able to go really really deep because they breathe they're breathing like a liquid version of oxygen or something which is causes their lungs to behave differently there's something we have to breathe in like watery something but like in order to dive to the deepest depths or something. And that's what I feel like. The one time I drank boba tea, I was like, so I'm just going to like either I have to catch each one of these little tapioca balls before they go down my throat or I'm just swallowing semi-solid things.

I do wonder what the proper, because I only had one once and I think it was because there was like a boba place like on the corner where I live. And I was like, sure, I'll try that. And so I really went into it. And again, kind of like the coconut water, I'll bet you if I went back to it, I would maybe enjoy it more kind of knowing what I was getting into. Again, this goes back to your point of floaties, especially if you're a repo man of drink. Yeah. So I want to, you know, maybe I would try bubble tea again. But like nobody told me, hey, here's the proper way to do this. Like, are you supposed to stop them with your tongue and then, you know, masticate? Or are you supposed to just like let it all slide down? I'm not exactly sure. But there are proper ways to eat certain foods. Right. Or at least maybe not proper, but like there are suggested ways. And I was never I was never taught, Luke.

I'm sure the boba heads will let us know. I'm sure. And again, you know, I don't want to yuck anyone's yum. Like, yeah, I try it. If you're loving boba, we'll keep on loving it. It's just I think it was a little disorienting for me as a food product. All right. Let's do some music for your weekend, Andrew, before we head on out of here. What song have you selected this week?

I tweeted this out, actually, yesterday. I'll be honest. I am mostly, I mean, I think this is a beautiful song that I'm about to play, but I actually remember the song less than I remember the video. I was mesmerized by this video by Angel Olsen. Now, I feel like Angel Olsen has been, am I wrong about this? Has Angel Olsen been talked about quite a bit on this show? Is this somebody that you like a lot or is it music for your weekend?

Addie's a fan, and I've heard some of her songs. I mean, I think Angel Olsen has been sort of pretty well known on the scene, the scene being indie music for, I'd say, you know, five plus years.

Kind of indie alt-country folk kind of stuff, right? Yeah. Kind of the big feet. That'd be my very ham-fisted.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's a good Waxahachie, Morby-verse, and whatever else goes on there. I would say that Angel Olsen sort of plays in that space. Some of your, I'm sure has done a duet at some point with, who's your Rilo Kylie person that you love so much? Oh, Jenny Lewis.

Jenny Lewis, yeah, yeah. Well, Angel Olsen has a new album that is coming out pretty soon. I don't know the name of it, but she's released a, and I think this is like, I think this is like kind of hot off the presses. I think this song was released yesterday. I'm not entirely sure. It's called Big Time by Angel Olsen. I'll play a bit of it for you now. But the video is just, I think, just so beautiful and mesmerizing. It takes – it's almost got a – I hate it because I feel like if anything even has a touch of surrealism to it, people call it David Lynchian. And I don't think everything that's surreal is like a David Lynch movie. But there is something kind of slightly David Lynchian about this. It takes place in like a kind of like a – it looks like kind of a country-style roadhouse like maybe in – or dance hall but like 1950s era. And Angel Olsen or this character she's playing kind of hesitantly takes the stage and starts singing the song and people start dancing. And then as the video goes on, suddenly you start noticing that things are changing with these dancers and some of the dancers themselves change. And at some point, like all of the men are wearing the women's clothes and all the women are wearing the men's clothes. And then it just becomes more of a kind of a dance party at the end. And everybody is like kind of retro fly. It's pretty, I mean, I watched the video like several times in a row. It's really beautiful. I highly recommend it. You can hit play on that. Okay, let's do a riff track right now. Get ready to hit play on the video as I hit play on this song, Big Time, by Angel Olsen.

Pedal Steel. Can't go wrong.

Good morning, kisses, giving you all mine. Pull back the curtains Show me the sunshine Needing this coffee Needing some nature Needed right now We can't wait until later We're always busy Baby, not this time When the talk rise Talking with your eyes Talking with your eyes Before we knew you Thinking the same things I'm a believer And I'm losing, I'm losing I left it behind

I hate to kill it in the middle of the hook, but I don't want to get the show taken down from Spotify. Beautiful, beautiful song. Big time by Angel Olsen. Keep an eye out for the new record.

Yeah. The song that I would like to suggest today, Andrew, was literally released at midnight East Coast last night. And I was counting down the hours because it's from these two jazz performers, Domi and J.D. Beck. who i have been weirdly into their music since it might have been i think i read a new york times or might have been a new yorker piece about them um sorry i feel like as you say is that smile is

that is that playing in the background is that that's not me is it i don't i mean i think that

was the song we're about to play i don't know it must have been playing somewhere in the background to my computer sorry but um uh i think i read a profile of these two they're basically considered sort of jazz prodigies she is um from france and plays the keyboard and he is i believe from texas and plays drums and a lot of the stuff that they play is just fascinating to me because they're you know very again relatively young and they just play this very very very fast style of i guess you would call it jazz but anderson pock got really into them and so has signed them to his label which is called ape shit and they now have a single out now this is not an example of the like if you just google domi and jade and domi is dom all cap and then lowercase i and then jd beck you'll get these like they met at some kind of a music showcase somewhere the two of them and then they they kind of became friends and started playing together but there's just all these videos circulating of them just playing these you know half hour long just again extremely fast but weirdly for me mesmerizing songs you know there it's all it's you know it's all instrumental but so now they finally have because i got this record deal uh they have a single out it's called smile and that's what i want to play this week um again it's probably not going to be for everyone although it isn't quite as kinetic or as it isn't as weird as the stuff that they you might see them doing on YouTube but it's still probably pretty weird for music for your weekend so take a listen to this it's Smile from Domi and J.D. Beck

I'll see you next time. Thank you.

and that's the song like that's what the song does i find it like so weirdly hypnotic

i yeah for some reason i don't i don't find this to be as as weird as i mean you know it's jazzy but no it's great i love it i but i want to play i just went way back in our um text messages because i want to hear this again can i play yeah that this is um this is more kind of like

The music that I identify them with

Yeah and I'm looking for So it looks like the name of this song is Sniff There might be a reason for that Because it is pretty kinetic like you say And very drum heavy And I don't know if you told me that this was on Pac's label That makes sense too of course as a drummer himself So thanks Luke I'm extending your music for your weekend Because I'm intrigued by all this This is Sniff

Thank you.

I mean, I don't usually talk this way, but that's straight up slaps.

I mean, that is so good. i i love it but you know i was the guy you know a year ago saying like i don't really like jazz but i just love this you know like it's just um yeah it really works for me and it's kind of causing me to want like i even like so last night i was listening on on the company that may take take down this episode because of how much of the music we played i was listening to the that the single smile that was just released and then because i wasn't paying attention it started playing other things like it you know like algorithmically and it just was taking me down this road of a lot of jazz but you know i don't even know if you'd call it avant-garde but just kind of like jazz music that's not just um you know dave brubeck which is the kind of stuff that you know vince garaldi dave brubeck um the very oscar peterson the really pretty accessible stuff ray brown trio that's kind of what i've usually vibed with but i'm finding some part of my you know my third eye is opening when it comes to these uh with these much jazzier kind of sounds

i'm really enjoying it do you know if and now i'm going to go back to this i don't know if this holds up as much if it is actually as similar as i thought when i was first listening to that um but do you know if the bad plus that that trio popped up at all when you mentioned um i didn't i

didn't that didn't happen last night but you mentioned that i don't think i know who that is

they were a jazz i believe trio i saw them live one time that were kind of i mean big or whatever making a name for themselves back i think of in the early 2000s or like 2003 i'm looking here is when their first album came out and they were um kind of upbeat jazz drum heavy um and also um kind of they i think they were i think they got some mainstream attention because they would cover certain pop songs as well like i think they covered smells like teen spirit which got them a lot of attention and then also um they did a cover of um oh andrew uh what's the running movie what's the movie about running uh chariots of fire it's a fire they did a version of that interesting evangelist here's a song that if you don't mind if we can just extend this a little bit this is a song ah it's been so long i don't know if i'm gonna regret playing this the title is terrible it's keep the bugs off your glass and the bears off your ass um but i think i liked this song and i think it was an upbeat one but i'm digging away back in the years here just take a quick listen and see if there's any similarities here okay so far the pacing is exactly the same

Bears, Bugs, or Ass. Nobody Rides for Free.

I know. It's a terrible name. Let's see if it kicks in. I feel like this ends up speeding up. Now, that's way more laid back than I remembered it, or I picked the wrong song. But there are some songs that kind of pick up the pace, and they're pretty drum heavy.

You know what? But not to sound like I'm trying to do any roasting, but you know what? That when I heard that piano, because the piano strikes me as a little bit atonal, or at least in a kind of, you know, it sounds to me, again, I don't have the, calm down, Garrett. I don't have the musical vocabulary to describe the fact that those weren't the notes I was expecting. Like, it reminded me a little bit of, see, now I can forget things too. Who's the voice of Bob's Burgers? H. John Benjamin. Oh, yeah. H. John Benjamin's jazz record. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which remains one of the funniest, conceptually one of the funniest things I've ever considered in my life. For those who don't know, the guy who's the voice of Archer and Bob from Bob's Burgers and about a million other things.

And Dr. Katz's son, most importantly.

Oh, yes. Thank you, the hair dad. It's dirty. um the the uh he just he just thought as an interesting experiment because there is you know a version of really avant-garde jazz that just to the untrained ear seems like it's someone just kind of pounding away at the keyboard with no intention which is not what's happening everything is a commentary on other things and a variation on something but he wanted to see if he could as a person who had zero training in piano if he could play along with the jazz trio if it was you know and what it would sound like and it's remarkable first of all you can tell when someone doesn't know how to play piano even in what's framed as an extremely avant-garde jazz situation yeah like it puts it puts to bed the notion that anybody could just get out there and make some weird sounds yeah it's so funny every time because he hired a really good jazz trio and they're just like doing their thing and then every time it gets to the piano it's and there's a cd by the way he released an album of this every time it gets to his piano music it's the funniest fucking thing i've ever heard i think i heard him on npr talking about that i think it's one of the great npr interviews because it's robert siegel who uh is a personal hero of mine and who was just a very very professional somewhat stint toren kind of voice on that network but he cannot stop laughing he is dying doing the interview robert siegel is losing his shit over this and when they play the when they get to the h jump you know the the piano part you can just hear robert siegel losing his shit and it's so satisfying because that was so not his general vibe that for me i i

don't i feel like now it's too much of a coincidence that i happen to hear that and that interview also stands out to you i wonder if you played that on tbtl which is why i associate that album i don't know i just love it so much but i'm famous anyway this has been jazz beat is that already a show that's already a show isn't it it's gotta be i mean it's gotta be

that was definitely a show that was playing there were some there must there had to have been some digi carts that said jazz beat on them when i was working at some public radio station

somewhere i typed in jazz beat public radio and i did get an npr podcast called jazz beat here oh by the way I want to put you on we spell it differently though we spell it B-E-E-T jazz beat it's from New England Public Media's Tom Rainey hey listen I'm going to put you on the spot on something here Luke not that we're going to do it today or that I want to but speaking of public radio I feel really terrible that we never did these station IDs for that station in Montana oh yeah for the network in Montana yeah and if we don't want to do it on the show we can do it off you know we can record it in a recording session and maybe play it for our listeners but either way the guy has stopped the person who's reaching out to us the guy who identified as like a farmer hey i'm the i'm the farmer radio dj or whatever um he was really really sweet and then he sent me an updated list of affiliates and then i'm like okay we'll get on this and it's been a week so maybe on okay do you want to do it on the show or do you want to just scrap that plan and just do

it in a recording session at some point well the problem is the way we do everything on this show If we do it on the show, we're also going to be stopping constantly to comment on how we're doing, which I feel like won't be helpful for him. Like, I'm going to say, like, 93-3, callous spell. Why do I say callous spell like that?

I'll edit it.

You know what I mean? Like, that's how it goes on the show. Like, there's no way we're going to, you and I are going to get through a list of 12 frequencies and cities in Montana with a straight face, but that's what they need. I mean, not a straight face, but they, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like it'd be better if you and I dial up early or stay late and do this off quote unquote off.

And then we can go back and play it if we want

Okay, sure, we can play it on TVTL But we should really do that Just out of a sense of obligation I have Also a sense of awesome-gation Yeah, exactly, yeah

I think that's, I would It would be probably one of my more high-profile Media opportunities

Sure, yes, when you're not on Dateline Or whatever your friend thought you were on the other day 60 Minutes, where did they place you?

He said 60 Minutes, but I think about that a lot Andrew, as somebody who watches so much Dateline like which isn't even the network that i work for but if i were if i were to sort of become more of a tv person i guess or reporter and and and sort of have the kind of status where they would then maybe consider me for that i wouldn't do it because well one i feel bad enough watching it that's already i feel kind of like i'm you know there's something voyeuristic about it it's a lot of sadness in people's lives, although often the people are interviewed in the special, which makes me think they're, you know, complicit in this to a degree, but it's just the wordplay, the absolute, just horrendous writing on these shows that I would either have to read or fight with the producers about. Like, I get mad if they want me to, I don't get mad, but like at CBS, I luckily have a huge amount of autonomy if a producer were to suggest a turn of phrase that I thought was made me feel kind of embarrassed to say on tv i can always just say i don't really want to say that or can we say it this way i have a luckily and the stakes are so low i'm just doing stories about like you know what i'm doing a story about andrew coming up the guy who invented those chattering teeth oh really those why he's like a hundred i thought they've just always been around

that's one of those things you don't picture somebody inventing them he lives in like calabasas

he invented the chattering teeth he is still hale and hearty and he's like approaching 100 if he's not already 100 so like a story like that the stakes are very low in terms of we're not talking about you know a crime that occurred but if it were about a crime that occurred and they wanted me to say just some you know whatever I can't even think of a good example I would then they'd have to do a new dateline about how I died from having to read that script

that was like one of my first days at um at Cairo radio when I was learning how to be a fill-in um desk editor which was kind of a weirdly high uh kind of anxiety causing job um but I was being trained in that role like kind of during the slow night shift it was like right after drive time and I'm stalling trying to think of the reporter you would know him well but he's been gone for a long time he was training me and basically all he trained me to do is at he just his feedback was just like play with the language more play with the language more i was like okay how about this and it's like i just i took like a 30 second live read of a news story and i just like added 15 puns to it and he's like beautiful pulitzer prize material i mean he didn't say oh was it dan restillon no no it wasn't it was not that i think that's dan's no that's not really dan's vibe it was a guy um he would have i mean luke we're going back a ways he would have been the um the i don't know if we really want to do this he would have been like the maybe evening drive time um editor back in like 2011 or 12 like um considering i don't remember things from this episode yeah he ended up getting a job at the sister station down in portland i think i ended up hearing his uh news updates in another city one time accidentally and just it transported me but anyway i can't think of his name right now

that is yeah like the idea that um you know um i of course on the fly i'm trying to just like punch up a story for for am news radio the kind of thing that they just really love and yet usually just comes down to if the story is not overly serious just throwing in as many plays on words as you can which um you know is not what i like to do what i like to do here andrew is just talk about jazz because it's one of my passions yep i know that's what i do uh all right i think that's

gonna do it for this week well we have one don't we have to do a music for your weekend for the

listeners nope we used up all the time oh okay we played three jazz songs which means no time

for michael in spokane sorry oh this is michael's suggestion yeah this will be he says hey boys

here's the war on drugs version of the grateful dead's touch of gray um and we were talking about Grateful Dead this week because there's this you know TikTok there's that mashup of a Grateful Dead song in Savage 21 and then I was posing the question was Grateful Dead were they a radio like were they a popular band I mean they were certainly popular with and they remain popular with their fans but like if you were not a deadhead in 1978 were you turning on your radio and hearing outside of Touch of Grey were you turning on your radio and hearing the dead like a lot or was it more of like you were you know it was for people who were deadheads um who knows but it got listener michael

looking around for the song Touch of Grey, and he found a version that the War on Drugs does, which you really kind of feel like you're talking about two competing ideologies, the War on Drugs and the Grateful Dead. These seem like natural enemies to each other, just based on, you know.

Because it's your contention that the band The War on Drugs is very pro-The War on Drugs, like very Reagan-esque.

They're all graduates from Quantico.

I did not realize. And they've all graduated with the D.A.R.E. program certificate?

okay interesting and they um they grew their hair out they were all kicked they were all kicked out of the fbi grew their hair out but can but maintained their strongly anti-drug standpoint

yes and it's a way i mean the long hair sort of gets them into places that they maybe exactly

couldn't spread their message otherwise how about that show the war on drugs are five fbi agents who are in deep cover. I would watch that. But then why name it The War on Drugs? You're giving it away. You should be called

the handing out of the drugs. It's just all to make it all the more confusing because everybody assumes that it's ironic, but it's not.

Right, because you look at that and you're like, well, there's no way they're G-men. They wouldn't just put it right in the title.

There's no way narcs would call themselves The War on Drugs. That's right.

So that's the backstory on this song.

That is. We just gave it to you. Right, sorry, we were just reading from Wikipedia again.

Also, you have mentioned before, Andrew, that, you know, songs by The War on Drugs tend to be fairly sort of voluminous. They tend to take up some time. And Grateful Dead, not known for their tight two-minute radio classics. So The War on Drugs doing a Grateful Dead song. We may be here for another couple of hours or until Spotify burns this whole thing down. So we'll see what happens first. Thanks for the suggestion, Michael. Thanks to all of you for listening and being here this week. We'll see you on Monday. I'm going to be in Oceanside, California, Andrew, because when we went down there and hung with Lisa and Farron, it's just something inside me connected with the city of Oceanside. So I'm going back. See you from there on Monday. Until then, have a great weekend. Take care of yourselves. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

Must be getting early Clocks are running late Paid by number, born in sky Seems so funny The dawn is breaking everywhere You let a cane to curse the glare Dry the curtains, I don't care Cause it's alright I see I got you missed out Say a piece and get out Guess I get the gist of it Cause it's alright Oh well anyway Sorry that you feel that way

All right, this guy ran with Thaddeus Phinx. He was one of the eight balls in Mookie Kramer and the Eight Balls.

I don't know. This doesn't sound like anything.

He played the alto sax with the kink in it. He's got the freak lips. He can hit the high C all night long. He was king of the tuck-tuck sound. Is this another jazz guy? Time. Ah, come on, guys. Power out.