Muse

Do you believe in UFOs?

Oh, yeah, yes, sir. Definitely. They're out there, man. I've seen them. I've been out there in Aurora, Texas. They got them little graves and stuff. Yeah, I've been out there, and I don't know. I'm planning a trip. I'm planning a trip. We're going out to, like, Arizona or something, figuring something out. That Air Force One where they found all that stuff, I got pictures of Aurora. I've seen grave sites. They're out there, man. And I'm flying in the plane. I'm always hallucinating. But who really knows what I'm looking at? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Okay. Well, but there's no proof of this, just people's accounts. You're right. There's no proof. But, I mean, there's no proof of Jesus or, you know, people go in the restroom until they tell you about it. You know what I mean? I mean, that's just kind of the way I see things. All right. So you believe it then? Oh, definitely. Definitely. Do you think there's, like, little green men out there? No little green men, sir.

TBTL!

okay t-bone time for some serious crunching you have a very gentle face and a very erotic physique

i love the way they look they're very affectionate and they're smaller than horses he runs around the house all day naked chasing himself playing tag it's awful he screams at the cat because she didn't vote every time he farts he calls the fire department that was great that was good

You went for it. I appreciate that.

I'm going to suggest that we have a little constructive talking time. I got the time if you got the diapers.

All right. Hello. Good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Tuesday edition of TVTL, the show. It just might be too beautiful to live. How do we have this? My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I think this guy's sense of humor never developed past junior high school. Coming to you from Stockton, California.

California, got sunshine.

Here in the San Joaquin Valley, arriving at episode 3675 in A Collector's Series. Let the fun begin. Weird Tuesday show. I got on an airplane in San Diego yesterday after we did a TV shoot down there. Flew up to Sacramento, and when the plane touched down, I turned on my phone, and the whole world had changed, at least as it relates to body autonomy here in the United States. The leak of the opinion that will very likely overturn Roe v. Wade, something that doesn't come as a surprise but is still shocking. I can't even can't begin to try to understand what it feels like for the women of this country to to feel like this country no longer allows them or will no longer allow them to be in control of their own body. So here we are on a Tuesday morning. We actually have other things to talk about, including we will mention that and we will recognize that that is the reality of the world this Tuesday morning. But I also saw some weird stuff on my trip. And I'm going to get all anecdotal on you. involving a very novel fundraising approach that I saw on a vehicle. So you got my money? That I cannot decide if I think it's kind of in poor taste or, you know, just people out there on their grind. So we will talk about that. And, well, some emails and V-mails and whatever else comes into our minds here. On this, again, kind of weird Tuesday, This guy is going to help us through all of it. He's an activist and house party enthusiast. He never misses the Sausage Fest.

Man, that's right.

He's the longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining us right now from the Sweet Cream District of Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend.

I know how this works. You got to speak first, so now I have to take the other side of the abortion debate. Seems unfair, Luke. Seems like you pointed me. That's how talk radio works, my dude. We flipped a coin

And you Drew the short straw

Okay we don't have to dwell on that A lot of anger A lot of hypocrisy in the world But if we start talking about it I don't think I'm the most articulate person Speak on this A lot of people are speaking on this Listen to them It's a tough day

Nobody needs As two cis males It's not like anybody needs our opinion on this But I just wanted to mention it at the top of the show because what I do know is that it's impossible for us to fully understand what this feels like for women in this country. And I want to make sure that we acknowledge that and that we don't sort of.

just kind of elide this tectonic shift in our country.

I agree. I agree. I had a little bit of sunshine. Oh, you do agree now, so I talked you into it. Oh, shoot. Yeah, but it's bad radio. Wow, you folded like a cheap table.

You folded like a table at a Buffalo Bills pregame.

Tailgate. Here's a little sunshine that was brought into my life this morning when I woke up on a somewhat dreary morning. Do you know that we have a listener named Kayla Who is in Stockton actually And Kayla often will text me And will sometimes email into the show And sometimes voicemail Yes exactly you're in Stockton right now Got a text from And the voicemail line from Kayla yesterday Saying I need to know Why Luke is in Stockton I said I don't know But then I got this text from her this morning My five, Christian who's nine years old Just asked me if I could skip school

That's a good name Christian That's my middle name.

Asked if he could skip school and spend the day looking for Luke in Stockton. I love that. You know, I didn't respond because I was doing a bunch of stuff, but I hope the answer was yes. Get a magnifying glass, put on a Sherlock Holmes hat, and go find Luke.

Christian, let's just go Christian to Christian, from one Christian to another. My dude, I'll see you out at the Calaveras River bike path. Actually, that's where I just was. I am here in Stockton because I'm doing a story for CBS Sunday morning about a guy here in the Stockton area who bought this old German ocean liner, which is now known as the Aurora, which is you might not think of Stockton, California as being on the water. But there is kind of a series of rivers that all intersect here. And so this old from the 1950s ocean liner is parked here and he has been fixing it up. And it is an absolutely Sisyphean task to try to fix one of these old things up. It's just everything is deteriorating at all times. And so he's been but he started a YouTube channel where he's fixing the boat up and people are quite interested in it. Lots of people following along as he tries to fix this thing up. So that's where we're filming today. Yesterday we were in Oceanside because the sort of leading historian and preservationist of this era of boats lives in Oceanside, California. And this guy, his name is Peter. He has a fascinating house. he has when he was a little kid he grew up his parents were both in Hollywood like his father and mother were both actors so he grew up in Southern California and when he was a kid he visited the Queen Mary which is one of these big you know ocean liners that's now docked in Long Beach and he just was completely and totally obsessed with these kinds of boats and I learned this in the reporting of this story there's a difference between like a cruise ship and an ocean liner Like we think of a cruise ship as being like the thing that we all get on now if we want to go to the Bahamas or something It's got water slides and all that Ocean liners were like basically before air travel was a really common thing The ocean liners were the way you got across the ocean If you wanted to go from Europe to America or whatever You had to get on one of these boats And their job was to go from point A to point B

Yeah, not stopping at all the little ports and letting people enjoy

They're not tooling around They're not a giant floating box, which is what the modern – this guy has really instilled in me a just absolute derision for the modern cruise ship now, even though I've been on many of them and actually I have kind of had fun. Like his whole thing is the ocean liner was this very beautifully designed thing that's job – its job was to cross vast oceans and take people. But like no one had balconies. You had basically these – like a private balcony. So there would be rooms where you could sleep, but everything else was happening on the ship. And depending, of course, on if you were in steerage like Leo in Titanic or if you were up in first class, you had access to better parts of the boat. But basically, you had to all hang out together. And by this guy's sort of telling of it, you were very aware that you were on the water. Everything pushed you towards going out and sitting on the decks and taking in some fresh air and looking at the ocean. And like now these the modern cruise ship is just it's a it's a floating Las Vegas where you could forget that you're at sea. There's no like, you know, the boat never moves because of all the ballast. You could eat at 20 different hotels. There's a casino. These are this is why I like these kind of ships when I'm inside them, Andrew, for the record. But he loves these ocean liners and the lines of them. So he has gone around the world and particularly this one place in India where all of the ocean liners go to die. That's where they go when they're scrapped. this one particular place in india and of the like thousand or so of the boats that were made let's say from like 19 say

1940 to 1960 these big metal ocean liners they're not they're pre-cruise ship of the thousand or plus of those that were made there's like five of them that are left wow that haven't been scrapped and one of them is in this river here in sacramento or in stockton this one dude is trying to fix it up by himself so the guy in in oceanside though peter he has he's gone to india a bunch of times And what he does is he buys the furniture and the interiors from these mid-century boats. And he's installed these incredible art pieces and interiors in his home in Oceanside, which looks like a totally normal tracked home in the suburbs of San Diego. It's on a cul-de-sac. You walk up to it. It is completely indistinguishable from every other home built in Sierra Estates or whatever the hell this Sudden Valley, whatever this place is called. But you open the door. Well, first of all, the first indication is that the guy's front door is from some, you know, Italian cruise ship or whatever. And you open and you go in and you have entered like a mid-century ocean liner design fever dream, but in kind of the best way. Like, I don't know that you want to know the wildest part of this whole thing. This dude had this same situation. So the paneling on the walls is all from the interior of these 1950s ocean liners. You go to his library, and it's these cabinets that were brought over. All this stuff had to come over on shipping containers. It's all installed. The crazy part is, or I should say the wild part is, he had this whole same setup at his other house north of Los Angeles in the valley. He and his partner were living there, and his partner got a job down in Oceanside. and so we had to disassemble the entire thing take it down to oceanside and reinstall it in this other house that they bought which i was like boy that better be a good job because you if i did this once you would never get me out of this house yeah there's a reason why um later on

this week i have to take apart my studio and then put it back together because you and i are working on a little project that we haven't talked about yet um and that is stressing me out just taking apartment i've been thinking about that we can't just record in the studio for that thing we're doing can't talk yeah we can't bring can't just bring uh we can't bring we can't bring the element that we need into the studio can we bring the mountain to muhammad can we well i don't i've never brought a goat in here before whatever we'll figure it out andrew you've given too much away

i've given shoot oh i'll i'll beep the word yes i meant tom brady we finally booked that steve El Ropo Nelson, his last act at Religion of Sports, booked us the Tom Brady interview.

So do I have this right? Did you say this, and I was already in my own thoughts, and I missed it, that the fellow who's trying to refurbish this ship bought it after seeing it on Craigslist? Yes, that's exactly how he got it. That is astounding.

Well, the story of this boat, the Aurora, is I've already probably droned on far too long about it, But I do find the whole story quite interesting. So it was the first ocean liner that Germany was permitted to build after World War II. Oh, wow. So there were a lot of rules, right, obviously, coming out of World War II. The rest of the world was like, okay, Germany, you're on timeout from most things. And so eventually, and also it was supply chain stuff because Germany was just decimated. So they built this ocean liner, which – it was called the Von Hamburg I think or something back then, the German – when they built it in Germany. And it was like the pride of Germany. It was like the most – it was like whatever yacht Jeff Bezos is probably on right now, right? But it was – but not a yacht. It was a – and its job was to go in the North Sea in Germany. It would go from whatever the place was in Germany and then would go up to this one island. And it was built very sturdily So it could go through the rough waters of the North Sea And it would drop these tourists off on this island They would hang out and then they'd get on and come back to Germany So it did that for a while The other thing about these ocean liners was They were all very, very much a point of national pride So Italy had a fleet Germany had a fleet England had a fleet France had a fleet And they would be like if you went on the Italian one The food was amazing Because the Italians were so proud of their food If you went on the French one All the art was amazing Because they were very proud So each – these were like a point of real national pride, these particular ocean liners. So this one anyway, after a while, it was decommissioned and it was sold to a Greek tour company and it started to cruise around like the Mediterranean and they put some cabins in it so people could sleep on it. Then it went – after it was done working in Greece, it came over to the US and then some people were going to try to use it as another kind of tourist thing. But that company went bankrupt. Then a series of people bought it all with grandiose plans for either making it a private yacht or making it a mobile icon.

for developing countries as optometrist was going to like take it over to um developing places and and bring people on it and give them eye exams the thing is these boats are just deteriorating you know particularly if they're in salt water they are just trying to sink themselves and so every single person in this chain uh bought the boat went broke trying to do something with the boat and it ended up on craigslist wow where this guy bought it i gotta spend more time on craigslist man i had no idea free boat free boat um so yeah that's the story of and now it's it's been i don't know what point it became the aurora but that's what it's now known as and it's sitting in this like narrow little river in stockton i'm now obsessed with what you said about bringing the

goat into the studio and you're right i'm developing some new ideas i can't wait for

the break so i can talk to you offline it's gonna be so much better than what we had planned

Hey, I don't want to Talk more about our plans Which aren't any of the listeners' business But actually, we do have some fun times coming up Because your travels here You're bringing You're bringing yourself here to Seattle, Washington Yes, I am Are we not doing a show in person tomorrow morning For TBTL? Yes, sir It has been I can't remember the last I mean, it's been months Since we did a show in the same room together That's always fun I'm looking forward to that

I am really – honestly, this is a pretty hectic week for me as far as being in a lot of different cities on a lot of different days. But the thing that I remembered was I actually get to do three shows with you in person, which makes me really excited because those are always extra fun shows. So that actually kind of like calmed me down a little bit about this week. I was like, okay, it's going to be a lot of airports, a lot of rental car shuttles, et cetera. But the majority of the shows, well, a three to two, a narrow majority. It all comes back to that goddamn court, Andrew. A narrow majority of the shows this week, a three to two margin, I get to do with you at your new place, which I've also never seen, which I'm super excited about. I guess I get a vacuum. Don't do it.

Don't stress out over me being there. I was going to bring this up tomorrow. Maybe we can go into more detail on this tomorrow if we're tight on time today, but you're also going to be here then for one of the grandest maybe examples or potential examples of garbage anxiety as this week I will be trying to throw away a refrigerator by leaving it on the curb. We've made arrangements. We've made arrangements. Remember I told you a couple of our electrical outlets went out last week?

Right, and you had someone coming over the weekend to check on all that. How'd that go?

Exactly. So, well, one of the sockets fed this refrigerator that we have, like a secondary refrigerator that is in the basement in this little kitchenette down here. It's not a tiny refrigerator, but it's smaller than probably most refrigerators, about up to my eyes maybe. well I'll tell you exactly what it is it's like 59 inches anyway that thing went you know that thing went off when the power went out on its socket and then I and so it was probably off for like 24 hours or something maybe 12 hours and so while we were waiting for the electrician for a few days I plugged it into a different plug just using an extension cord and I don't I mean these refrigerators both of them that we have in this house now are so old I know for a fact that the one upstairs is from 1997 and it sounds like a jet engine when it's running and then when it stops running it makes a loud clanking sound i mean it it is like that just tells you it's working it is like um it's almost like eraser head when it stops working it makes like this clanking sound like you would swear it was like uh uh what do you call the things not a thermostat but what do you call the um radiators of like the 1940s oh sure i had many an apartment yes where where just like

I had no control over what that radiator would do at any time of the day or night.

Yeah, I told you about my bag of frozen peas, didn't I? I lived in an apartment. Yeah, that was your hack. Yeah, the thermostat was in my apartment, but in a locked plastic container. And so if I got too cold and it wasn't kicking on, I would grab this bag of frozen peas from my freezer and put it on top of this thing and then trick the thermostat into turning itself on. But anyway, when we plugged this refrigerator back in downstairs, suddenly it eventually started to work But then when it got to the height of its coolness, about eight hours after plugging it in, it started making a screaming sound I don't know if this thing was just surviving because it hadn't been unplugged in years But something happened to the motor on that thing

Well, permission to get real?

Yeah

and and you know this is your home and your experience so i don't want to uh step on anything that's your story but the

i got was the people selling the house plugged intentionally plugged the main refrigerator or this refrigerator into a non-working outlet so that it wouldn't do this whole alan ginsburg

situation oh the upstairs one the loud one that was turns out that that was a little bit more complicated can i get some credit for a good howl reference it went over my head splatted on the wall behind me um i've seen the best podcasters of my day not get my allen ginsburg reference oh oh oh howl sorry sorry sorry yes allen ginsburg yes sorry um for some reason i was sorry i'm a little bit confused and i thought you were referencing somebody else named how terribly lame joke you

said screaming i went with howl there's a different things it's on me that's anyway no no um i did read that poem i also read it's clearly also the only poem i've read like you get a billy collins reference and an alan ginsburg reference for me those that's going to be what happens when poetry

comes up you know why i'm now i'm just going to say why i'm embarrassed and we can all make fun of me i was going to say i was going to try to one-up you and say i also read his poem kaddish but i think it's actually pronounced kaddish right isn't it like kaddish maybe k-a-d-d-i-s-h

Yeah, I think that's the Kaddish, right?

Is that the Kaddish? It's a morning prayer, right? In Judaism, I think. Anyway. Yes. And I remember liking that one better, that poem better for whatever that's worth. But I was also 18 years old and had no idea what I was reading. All of that is to say, yes, the upstairs refrigerator is loud as hell. The downstairs refrigerator somehow thought it was a competition and got even louder. It sounded like I've never seen this movie all the way through, but there's a sci-fi movie called Tremors. I believe it's based on a Philip K. Dick story about these little, I think, like robot monsters that live under just just under the surface of the earth. And they will tremors. I mean, that was a movie with Bill Paxton, right? Am I saying the wrong name of the movie? Does it is a movie that I'm thinking of based on a Philip K. Dick book?

Big like sand, big sand worms. Right. Oh, OK. Bill Paxton and maybe Laura Dern or something. I didn't know the actors. I always think they were sand. Sandworms, I thought they were sand robots, I thought. Maybe they are. I never saw the movie, and I also often confuse it with Twister.

Oh, that's different, yeah.

Because they have similar names, and I feel like there's at least a few cast members that overlap.

This is awful. You know, you're right. I'm looking at the poster, and it does look like a giant sandworm, but I swear I saw the beginning of it. Maybe I'm thinking of a different movie. God damn it.

I am not doing great with this story. It's also possible those sandworms are robots. I have literally never seen the film.

I saw the beginning of some film where there were these little robot, like, just ferocious, almost like piranhas of the sand, little robots that would scream under the surface of the earth. I sound like Nicolas Cage. And then, like, would, like, kind of pop up, and they made this horrific, like, kind of screaming sound. Maybe I'm thinking of a different movie. And that's what my refrigerator sounded like down here the other day. And I thought like, oh, maybe it's because it's like, maybe it's because when it was defrosting, it didn't fully defrost. So maybe things froze back onto the blades in a funny way. So I completely defrosted it for like 36 hours and tried it again. And then I took it apart and I'm like, okay, well, there's the fan. I could probably buy a replacement fan. Like, I don't even know what model this is. And I'm online and I'm just like, dude, it's like 300 bucks. Just get a new refrigerator. What are you doing? I mean, we're in that mode where we keep on pissing away money on all kinds of things in this house as they break around us and we're getting things back in order. I knew that was going to be, you know, I knew I knew that was going to be what was going to have to happen. But I'm just like also in this mode of like, well, if I can fix this refrigerator, I'm really in fix it mode now. And like as I'm taking this thing apart, I'm like, dude, just get rid of this refrigerator. And I talked to Veeves and there's a very cute little refrigerator that we want to replace it with. It has kind of a retro style. So it's like, yes, this makes the most sense. But all of that comes back to how do you solve a problem like refrigerator, which I believe was a line in Howell.

It was a belt, right? Presumably, yes. That's Lawrence Ferlinghetti at City Lights. You know, that was some of his work.

I assumed it was the fan itself and the fan motor, but it could have been a belt in that fan motor.

Most of the time, if you've ever had a real shitbox of a car, as I have in my life, whenever it's doing that weird high-pitched thing, in my experience, it was always a loose belt that was rubbing against something. My guess would be—I love that I'm like—my only experience with a refrigerator was chopping the ice out of the vintage refrigerator we had at Burbank Springs in the basement and puncturing the Freon tube. I think about that sometimes. The exact thing my dad always said, don't do. Who's like do not ever try to get the ice out With like a screwdriver or something sharp So I am not the expert I'll have you take a look at it And then you can take it home with you on the plane

Yeah, I'll take it down.

I'll check it. All of that is to say we have a new refrigerator that we're now, Genevieve and I are negotiating how to get it from the Home Depot. It's on its way to the Home Depot now, and then we need to bring it from the Home Depot to our house. We don't have a car big enough. We're trying to figure it out. I suggested buying a dolly and walking it all the way home. Genevieve suggested that's not a great idea.

You know, you can rent that truck, though, right? Do they still do that, or do they get rid of that?

I don't know. I suggested that as well, but I don't know. I think we're going to borrow somebody's car or something. But we have to get rid of the old one And so it turns out this is a pretty good service

I think I ruined that policy for them by the way Because there was a period of time where You could rent If you bought something at Home Depot Or Lowe's probably also had one And you didn't have a car for it You could rent a truck To take it home And I used to rent that truck and just do completely Unrelated errands with it

Wait you didn't have to pay extra for it It was just like hey you bought a thing therefore here are the keys

No you rented it But it was weirdly cheap They were subsidizing it Because they wanted to sell you the refrigerator So I think they saw the truck rental as a loss leader But I remember like renting The like Home Depot truck And then making like 25 dump runs in it Because it's a big flatbed And then like this is when I lived down In South Beacon Hill Like the first house that I owned And I just remember doing all these dump runs And then bringing it back to Home Depot a couple hours later There's like dirt in the back and they're like

didn't we send you home with a dishwasher that was a very dirty but um but i yeah exactly but uh

i then i at some point i remember years later calling like a different home depot in a different city i lived in going you guys got that truck around they go no we don't do that anymore i was

like yeah i might have ruined that for everyone like what's your name luke burbank no we don't

do that anymore sir there's a big picture of me from the security camera walking into the home

hey but anyway so we have this old refrigerator genevieve just like goes online and it turns out that you can put it out at your curb, you pay an extra like $38 or something, but like the trash collectors are supposed to know, like they should have it on their clipboard that like, oh, this house is going to have a refrigerator to pick up, but I'm sure they'll send a special truck, but you put it out on your trash day and you have to either take the doors off or secure them. I believe I need to, this was a debate Vives and I had, I believe that if we're going to secure them with tape, like Packers tape, that that tape should have to be wrapped all the way around the refrigerator to be considered secured what do you think

I would go completely around the refrigerator but I tend to overdo that kind of I mean I'd do it a couple times I mean how expensive is packing tape that's what I

say because if it's just little flaps of tape like the whole point is to try to keep you know like a little kid or somebody who doesn't know better or maybe even varmints out of there and so like yeah just wrap it all the way around I think right just like use a roll of tape yeah I mean

why I mean why not err on the side of of keeping that thing Closed $38 That's more than you would think I guess but again it's like what do we ask I mean what are we asking them to do Carry a heavy metal Thing away and then bury it in the ground Forever if you think about it that way I guess First of all We have no shot as a society Going on this planet we have no Shot as a species on this planet And I say that as a person who Regularly throws away durable Goods like refrigerators you buy daily Refrigerators don't you are you still the refrigerator a week planner wow andrew are you a poor are you still just like are you only throwing your refrigerator out once a year yeah i thought that that was you not even read marie

condo no i'll never have an ice machine that's one thing i realized i'm like oh we can get an ice machine it's like no you need a water hookup for that it's more than just a getting a fancy

freezer that um i'll tell you what no you don't need a water hookup for it you don't the one that

i have the pebble ice it has a tank oh but that's a separate little unit itself i mean for if you get a built-in uh ice machine in your freezer it needs a water line i think

oh yeah of course it does you should get i'll tell you that ice machine that i have is the canary in the coal mine in my apartment because i've been having all these we're speaking of electrical issues are we do we buy uh t-mobile field as the electric factory are we are we

going with that what was the origin of that did who slipped that did we slip that under our radar Did Winker bring that with them from Cincinnati? Like, isn't that where that came from?

Is that? And also, if that's Cincinnati's thing, then what are we once again as a city stealing someone else's deal? Like, they're just starting to call that. So for those who don't know, now when they do ads for like upcoming Mariner games, they describe the stadium as the electric factory. The electric factory is going to be pumping when the Astros come to town. And I'm like, did we take a vote? I actually don't mind it as a nickname, but it feels real astroturfy to me.

I just keep on seeing Jesse Winker in the electric factory. So I thought that that was like his nickname or something. But maybe I'm wrong about that. I meant to.

I literally meant to ask you or Durs about that offline because I figure you guys were following it closer than me.

Have we considered the double play factory?

Because that seems to be more what Jesse Winker brings to this enterprise. I feel bad about that, Luke. Jesse Winker is also on our – I'll tell you what. This conversation is just all over the place. But I know how we can make Jesse – I mean, right now, I swear to God, I have the power to make Jesse Winker more productive on the field. and that is to bench him on our fantasy team but i refuse to do that because i know that if we bench him we need him against the strohs he's gonna heat up out but if i have him heating up while he's on the bench it's going to destroy me as a fantasy team owner well you're much more the owner

of that team so i will defer to you but for me a person who literally doesn't know even the players we have on the team i would support the idea of benching virtual jesse winker so irl jesse winker Can actually stop hitting into Unfortunately timed double plays Anyway what I was going to say is I've also been having some electrical problems At my apartment Andrew They were putting in a new gate For the parking garage Which is not an insignificant Kind of undertaking And so they had to do something With the electrical panel In the apartment building And first my oven stopped working And like the And then all of a sudden other things while i was waiting for the appliance folks to come out and look at that which they did and reset it and it's all fine now i noticed that my refrigerator turned off and the ice maker like a whole panel like a whole kind of series of of plugins turned off kind of what was happening at your house and the way that i noticed it was my beloved pebble ice machine all the ice had melted otherwise i wouldn't have even because the refrigerator stays cold It stays pretty cold Like I opened it to get a club soda or something And the soda was still cold I felt my hand was cold going in So I didn't notice the refrigerator was actually off But then I looked over at the ice machine And it was like, had completely melted And that was my indication that something was in fact amiss

Maybe they just, maybe it didn't come from Cincinnati The electric factory Maybe it was just from all these interviews with the players After the homestand Where they kept describing the Mariners fans as being electric As electric maybe Maybe it is a new thing because I'm doing some cross-referencing here. I thought one of these days I'll sit down, I'll Google Jesse Winker Electric, and I'll have all of the answers. But instead, it just seems like I'm only reading things written from the perspective that I know what we're talking about, and I just want to know what we're talking about. Sometimes the internet fails you.

Again, I really don't hate it as a nickname. I just want to feel like it's organic, you know, because there's nothing worse than just sort of the PR people for the team deciding that this is what we're now going to call it. Although I guess if you do it long enough, maybe it'll stick. I mean, it's better than T-Mobile Park. Where were we playing in – where were we at before? I guess it was Tampa. I think it's called Lone Depot Park. Yeah, Lone Depot. I just kept thinking. What a great – Was Lowe's Depot Park taken? Could it be more confusing? Rick Riz could not say Lone Depot correctly the entire series.

And I loved the way the broadcast team just kept ragging on. Is it actually the Marlins Stadium, or was it – what is the terrible place to play? On the road trip, they played two Florida teams, and one of them, they just kept talking about this dome they were playing in. And on both radio and TV, the Seattle broadcasters were just, like, talking about what a miserable place it is to be. Probably Tropicana Field. Tropicana, that's it. It used to be called Tropicana Field. And they were, like, showing the – they were, like, just – at one point, the camera just, like, kind of zoomed in to, like, the grody dome and just lingered on a fire extinguisher that was up there. And I think Dave Stim says that extinguisher has been there since this place opened. like they were just like miserable under this dome yeah that's a really unfortunate ballpark

and peace and love to our listeners in miami including listener zinzi do you know how famous listener zinzi is getting by the way andrew i don't know if she'll hear this or not something but she every time i turn on my npr i hear zinzi noted public health expert being interviewed on like all things considered she's becoming a go-to on the on the topic of covid and things like that uh and i'm i i feel weirdly starstruck when i hear a tbtl 10 in the wild being interviewed

yeah i mean i take a lot of credit story i take a lot of credit for zinzi's success though don't you like no tbtl i'm not sure that we get zinzi through school you know to be able to you know

be able to become the wind beneath and atop zinzi's wings exactly but yeah the peace and love to our listeners in the

south florida but like yeah that ballpark has always been i think kind of uh a bit of a a bit of a stumble in the words of fafa flow high that's a just a joke for our friend phyllis um but yeah that park has always been bad i mean it has to be indoors because i lived a summer in miami and it is you cannot it is not survivable to be outside in miami in the summer during certain hours of the day hence an indoor ballpark in what is otherwise a very beautiful and tropical place

You know what? Can I just say, I think, I don't know if we are or I am crossing wires here. The field that they hated under the dome was Tropicana Field, and that's the Tampa Bay Rays. That's the one that the broadcast team was really making fun of. But then they went to Miami, and I think they were still under a dome because of the heat, but I think it was the Tampa Bay Dome that they really thought was correct.

Tropicana is probably where the Rays play. Then where do the Marlins, which were the Florida Marlins, now they're the Miami Marlins, because I guess they probably thought Miami is muy caliente. We want to get that in the name. People might buy more hats. What is the name of the field that – So the Marlins play at Lone Depot. But Tropicana – is Tropicana Field still called Tropicana Field? It looks like it. Yeah. It looks like it. Well, I'm going to give them – you know what? But I have to say, at least they still have – because I assume that that was sponsored by the orange juice company, Tropicana. That, to me, is kind of a fun name. It's all these other – Yeah, I agree. Bank rate, call us before you call another mesothelioma lawyer rate field in Phoenix. It's just like the naming of these stadiums just kills me. Even T-Mobile, I'll take. Yeah, I'll take T-Mobile. It just sounds like a thing. it's not a like call 1-888-888-888 field it's my money and i want it now field

minute made park is also the astro so we went from tropicana and then we made one stop in between and now we're at minute made and i gotta say it also makes me want orange juice for real war of the

orange juices yeah and of course you remember what the minute made park was called back in the day in one of the most spectacularly bad stadium names of all time it was the astrodome right enron field oh enron field right right right yes wow i guess amway field was taken okay uh we should take a break yeah we should you know i got this fancy new clock i don't know if you know this andrew but i'm surrounded by clock oh are they i got this fancy new clock just to bring on the road with me but i can't i gotta put my glasses on i can't read it from afar looks to me like we're at about 38 or so minutes if not more into the show so we should probably take a break uh so we'll do that quick break and then back with a more tbtl in just a moment

we was hoping for some razzle dazzle razzle dazzle that's right man razzle dazzle on your mark on your get set get set now ready ready go everybody rattle dattle let's thank some dazzling donors

these are the wonderful generous folks who are dazzling us with their donations of dough and keeping the show going folks like sam clark who's in berlin germany i've never been to berlin But I feel like every cool person that I've ever met or heard of is either moving to Berlin or lived in Berlin or summers in Berlin. Berlin really seems to be the spot.

I can't keep up with Berlin. All I know is like back when I was in my 20s and maybe early 30s, friends would go over to Berlin and then they'd say, you don't sleep for four days. You just live in the clubs. I'd say, but I prefer to sleep for four days.

Yeah. No, that sounds like you're they're like they've outlawed Andy times. It's literally illegal to be home playing Minecraft as a club. I love that these people that, you know, from Cleveland suddenly talk like Dieter from Sprockets sort of or kind of kind of comes in and out of that. i guess a little bit sam says hey a friendos i'm turning the big four oh soon and two years ago i picked up a skateboard again almost 20 years to help stay in shape right on sam as a fellow old boarder i'm with you i have noticed something andrew and i i don't want to get too off topic or too bogged down in this but so yesterday when i was driving out of oceanside and this morning when i was on my little morning jog uh in both cases i ended up going past a couple of different high schools and yesterday in in oceanside high school was letting out and today everyone was going to school in the morning and i was struck by how durable the skateboard is as a thing oh yeah like there were so many kids carrying their skateboards or on their skateboards everybody was like skateboarding. to school now granted this is california the weather probably helps but i just like it was a big deal when i was a kid it's still a big deal like i feel like a lot of these things seem like they would be fads or trendy but the skateboard seems extremely durable as a mode of transportation

particularly when you're a certain age i remember um having that feeling when i was living in los angeles because i didn't see a lot of skateboarding up here in seattle at all at that time and then living in LA it just seemed like people from all kinds of walks of life were using skateboards like I would see you know like maybe like younger people like you kind of picture skateboarders but then I remember very specifically on Wilshire there's a little juice shop by the Wiltern there that's the theater right and I remember sitting in traffic in my car at the stoplight and seeing some guy in a business suit like leave with like his cup in one hand of this like smoothie shop and just like plunk his skateboard down and like skate off to work i assumed um and like and i also i also have this memory um of in a more residential area a couple of people maybe in their 20s or 30s they were moving something in fact maybe you should bring your skateboard to help us get the refrigerator from home depot because i remember oh yeah it was so cute as a man and a woman who were um transporting some sort of large box on i believe they had two skateboards underneath it and they We're just pushing it through this residential area and seemingly having a good time. So, yeah, I remember being struck by the same thing.

I moved everything in my first Portland apartment in with my skateboard. I remember that. Like, by myself, with my by myself. And it was a tremendously effective little, you know, moving assistant. Anyway, Sam says, I quickly realized that the skateboarding community worldwide is extremely passionate about spreading the habit and taking care of other skateboarders. I want to take this time to amplify SkatePal, a non-profit skateboarding program to help Palestinian kiddos shred the gnar. Are you talking about gleaming the cube, Sam? Shredding the gnar like gleaming the cube? The program focuses on loaning skateboards, giving lessons, building skate parks, and promoting all-around good vibes. Check them out on Instagram or Twitter at Skate underscore Pal, P-A-L, for links to donate. That is a very, I have to say, a very worthy cause, it sounds like, and also a very clever name, Skate Pal, as in Palestine.

Yeah, and they got the Instagram handle, Skate Pal. It wasn't taken. Oh, yeah.

Right. That's actually a good point. They must have gotten in early on this because that seems like a natch on Instagram.

Or they shook someone down. How about that? How about I use this Dazzling Donor message to now just spread completely false allegations against this great program? Is that what Sam wanted? That's what Sam would have wanted.

It's impossible for me to know what Sam wanted, but I know it's not that. Sam, thank you so much for supporting the show. And everyone go check out SkatePal, S-K-A-T-E. I like how I spelled skate. Like, people don't know that. underscore pal, P-A-L, to see what SkatePal is up to helping and also helping people in Palestine. Thanks, Sam. Maestro?

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody rattle, dazzle.

We've also got to thank Dazzling Donor, Adrian Hughes in Portland, Oregon. Now, I have to say, If this is the same Adrian that I'm thinking it is, I believe we should use the proper title, Dr. Adrian Hughes, who came to LiveWire recently with some friends and is just absolutely lovely person. And I believe emergency room doctor. Oh, wow. And let me just tell you, if I worked in an ER, I would start and end every conversation by mentioning I worked in an ER.

You'd never take off your scrubs. You would just wear them everywhere and ask people if you're a hero.

Yes. Honestly, if I wrote a song about it, it would be called, Yes, I Do Want Some Scrubs. A scrub lets you know that I work in an ER. During the scariest time in 200 years. Thank you. So I want some cred. Anyway, Dr. Adrian Hughes checking in, saying, Hey, Hermanos. I started listening to TBTL in 2013 shortly after Andrew began on the show. There you go, Andrew. Hey, I got one. We got to hop on, thanks to you. I look forward to hearing your voices every day. You are my earhole companions while puttering around in my garden. You both make me funnier. Ooh, that is nice to hear. No, no, no.

Adrian means by comparison. Oh, gotcha. I see. That makes a lot of sense.

You both make me think more and laugh more. You're both my friends. But seriously, you two bros are doing... You

the other tens, and me a major daily service. What you do is so important. I'd like to honor my late cat, Marley, for my dazzling donor message. He bravely went over the Rainbow Bridge a few weeks ago. Oh, I'm sorry, Adrian. Like Andrew, I am mourning the loss of a long-term family member and friend. I adopted Marley 15 years ago when he was just a kitten. I was studying for the MCAT. I assume that's something they make you take at the Humane Society before they let you adopt a kitten so he'll always be my MCAT cat he traveled with me to med school then residency and fellowship I also have to say and I don't I want to pause because we're honoring Marley here and I don't want to get I don't want this to sound in the slightest way odd Andrew so tell me if this feels wrong but I met Dr. Adrian recently and it does not look like Dr. Adrian has been on the planet long enough to have had all these phases of education this is like 15 years of different things uh you know residencies and mcats and all kinds of different fellowships and things but anyway we lived in eight different homes and in the three and in three separate states we experienced some tough times together and i'm so thankful to have had the little man in my life for as long as I did. It is definitely the end of a Marley era. Like Andrew, I also have a slightly younger but still very senior cat who is coping okay. In fact, she's thriving, and we are definitely getting more bonding time together as we grieve and comfort each other. A cat is an angel that poops in a box. I think all animals are incredible, and I want to encourage everyone to consider pet adoption. It truly will spark more joy in your life. Thank you, Luke and Andrew. You two are professionals. look it up in the book that was a lot of impressions for me I was able to do none of them well but I really I covered a range of TBTL drop impressions there

what is that from a cat is an angel that poops in a box I didn't do a good impression but I wanted to swing for it actually that wasn't bad

I really don't think that was bad that's an SNL sketch really Kristen Wiig and it might be Abby Elliott are playing I think a couple of like pet rescue volunteers that are doing an ad maybe for like a pet rescue or something. And they're kind of playing very much into the stereotype of people that love cats so much that they maybe get a little kooky with it. And I think that's Kristen Wiig. Kirsten Wiig? Kristen Wiig? Kristen Wiig, I believe. Kristen Wiig. That's Kristen Wiig saying, a cat is an angel that poops in a box. I believe she has adult braces possibly.

I had no idea. Yeah. I mean, this is one of those things where I always assumed that I have the skit here if we want to hear part of it, but I just always assumed it's from like a documentary or something. I cut you off, though. What were you going to say?

Well, I was going to say on the subject of adult braces, I had. Well, let's do this. Thank you, Dr. Adrian. We really appreciate. Also, I don't know if she likes being called Dr. Adrian. Thank you, Adrian. And I'm really sorry about Marley. Yeah, we'll be sending you some some good vibrations today. And thanks, Sam, also for supporting the show. We wouldn't be here without our dazzling donors. Hello and welcome to Top Story. Sorry about that noise outside there. Someone is escaping the land here in Stockton. Can't hear it. In the bushes. Okay, good. um the on the subject of adult uh orthodontia i was taking the shuttle the rental car shuttle from the san diego airport to the facility where you get the rental car and i had the shuttle driver of all shuttle drivers her name was linda she was an absolute gem she called everyone honey She was not really about lifting heavy luggage Which I don't blame her for So she would be like honey I can't lift that Could you go ahead and lift that How do you as a 20 year old person With your bag that you brought from wherever How do you get on the rental car shuttle And then you see a woman Who appears to be maybe in her mid 60's Who's just helping people Get on and off the thing And then how do you leave her your luggage to hoist It just seems like a weird thing But anyway Linda handled it with aplomb and then she got on the microphone as we started driving and she was an absolute hoot she was like how was everyone's flight she goes i'm double she goes i'm vaxxed i'm double boosted i've got a horse voice and i'm wearing my invisalign so it may be hard to understand me

wonder if she just got her boost maybe that's why she had a horse

voice. I think that's what she was referring to. Her second boost. She was double boosted. Yeah, yeah. And she had her Invisalign in, so she said it might be a little bit hard to understand her. And then she proceeded to just tell us, like, as we were driving from the San Diego airport to the rental car facility, it was like a tour bus. It was like, here are some things you can do in San Diego. Make sure you check out this, that, the other. Then when you – I think because of its proximity to this like huge naval installation, the security fencing when you enter the rental car facility is like – I'm not trying to be glib, but it feels like Guantanamo. It is these massive metal gates that are obviously controlled by whatever robot, and then just – when that really bad-looking – is that concertina wire? Is that what that's technically called?

The stuff that looks like barbed wire up at the top but isn't actually barbed.

The stuff that looks so like – it's like the barbed wire. Razor wire, right? it's like so like razor wire ringing this whole thing and then these just like very intense gates and linda was like we are not entering guantanamo or uh another jail-like facility this is just what it looks like that's what she's saying wow so she invoked guantanamo i love it yes she was great and then she just like you know when we got off uh the the bus she was wishing everyone a great rest of their trip and what was funny was this couple was riding i went way back of the bus and this couple was riding next to me and the guy said oh yeah we took a rental car here uh two months ago we got linda this is the exact spiel she gives every time and i was like i'm loving it

you just gotta make sure that you schedule linda for the right day part though you know what i mean you don't want linda probably doing the linda shtick if you know she's driving the bus between 9 p.m. and 3 a.m. or something like you need because I could see myself being a mood thing exactly being in a mood where it's kind of like I could use a little less of this now not I don't know why I'm pooping on Linda I haven't even met Linda and it sounds like it was a good experience for you but I'm just saying you gotta you gotta know your audience too I think you're right I

think I was in a good mood for it because it was midday I'd flown it wasn't a particularly early flight yeah if it's if it's 10 p.m. and i'm like talk to me on friday when i am in st louis louis i because the thing about this week of trips for me is none of the flights are particularly onerous i'm mostly going up and down the west coast like tonight when i'm done here uh i will go back to sacramento and i'll fly up to seattle that's not a big flight or anything it's just it's honestly the connective tissue it's the rental car shuttles it's being on four different rental car like really eight different rental car shuttles in in five days it's like that kind of stuff that wears me down i think so when i am like going from the st louis airport to the rental car facility uh thursday night at 11 59 p.m which is when i get in yep that's when i'm probably would do less well with a fun speech from the shuttle driver i also like to think

that Linda maybe can read the bus you know maybe Linda knows that if anyone can it would be Linda

I mean honestly I feel that she was really really dialed into what was going on speaking of travel things two two things that I saw in my travels up here that I thought were kind of interesting one was when I was driving I think I was already here driving from Sacramento to Stockton somebody breezed by me in a car and you know when people get married they'll write like just married on the window of the car sure this one said buy the bride a drink and then it had the woman's venmo written on the window like and i thought huh is this are we doing this now are we buying are we venmoing strange complete strangers money because they got married i mean this is a part of the

modern culture that and i'm grateful that i didn't have to rely on it a lot but like the normalization of just saying hey i'm going through a thing you know here's my here's my um go pay me i don't even know what the platform would be go fund here's my venmo here's my go fund me but there's some other ones as well um and and people will just jump in and it's in a certain way there's a dark side to that which especially people having to like fundraise for their own health care and stuff like we just shouldn't be in that situation but you also have the technology that's come up as well and it has become much more common i mean i'll see people just like kind of tweet something out and they're like hey my tweet's popular uh i'm going to school here's uh how you can buy me a

drink yeah cash app yeah like a like 80 percent of the people that i see on tiktok if they do something funny or interesting on tiktok and then i go to their account then it's like some sort of bio and then it just usually has a link to like cash app yeah like i guess we've all just hung our shingle. And I'm with you.

that we as a society that many people have to turn to public fundraising as a way to pay for medical care that should be a right is very dark yes um but this is a little different to me this is just just just speaks to i guess and and you know we just read some dazzling donors we're gonna do a fundraising week coming up i would argue that we also five days a week put a buttload of work into this and this is our job and we you know it's sort of that's like a plumber showing up at your house and doing work and then hoping to be paid for it i guess we're the plumbers of podcasting andrew in this analogy to me that sounds more useful than i actually am so thank you yeah that's different than i got married and hey if you want to throw me some dough for that this is my venmo i just again i didn't think it was it didn't offend me in any way it just was surprising i'd never seen something exactly like that although i mean it was the irl version of what we see online all the time like i said a lot of people and i do think it's sort of generational a lot of people particularly of like the the generation that's a bit younger than us i think are like yeah well why would i not and they may have an argument it's like there are a lot of people in the world and if a lot of those people gave me one dollar it would be nothing to them but it would be a lot to me why would i not avail myself of that and i think that there's

probably some logic to that argument yeah i don't know if it makes sense for me to take it in this direction too. But you know, like, being a, I guess, a new homeowner having recently bought a house. And I wouldn't say I have super conflicted feelings about it. I mean, mostly my feelings are very excited. Like, I'm very happy to live here. I'm so excited about when I think about the future when I think about just settling in here. There's so many things that I'm very happy about. i get some feelings of confliction i guess when i think about how bizarre the market is and how lucky we were to be able to come in and and buy this house and how i feel like there's just like so much there's so much um inequity right now especially in the city all over the place but especially in the city and so i i don't know if it's guilt that i have or just wanting to always remind myself that like this is a blessing that we are able to own this thing and also not to like turn into nimbies or lose our values or there's just some things that i think about as far as being able to afford this house and being able to like kind of like buy this house and kind of take it off the market which is you know it's like that's something that when you hear other people who've been scrounging around for a for a house and people come in and just kind of buy them all up i kind of feel bad about that like listen veves and i have been saving for our entire lives like we didn't do anything wrong but it's just whatever there are some conflicting i guess emotions about this thing and then when people send us gifts to honor that part of housewarming guilty yeah like i'm thinking and this is a friend of mine a dear friend of mine who i've known since high school who sometimes listens to the show and he might hear this and he might know i'm talking about him And he sent me like he sent us, I should say, the sweetest housewarming package. And in it were two gift cards for a couple of various like kind of hardware stores or whatever that were very generous, like incredibly generous and saying, hey, listen, I know that, you know, I mean, I guess the idea here is when you move into a house, the idea is you're kind of house poor. You could definitely use some help because you've just like spent all of your money and you're going to have to do some fixing up. So here are some gift cards for like hardware stores and whatever, because that's your life now. Like it all makes sense to me and I'm so, so grateful for it. But then part of me also says, wow, I'm fortunate enough to live in this city and honestly live in a part of the city where there's so much poverty all around me. And I think people are giving us expensive gifts because we bought a house. And I'm like, wow, that that's something to kind of contemplate.

Yeah. Yeah. I know what you mean. And again, I was not offended at all by this by this like Venmo ask. I just thought it was it was just surprising to me. But you're right. I have to view all of it through the lens of like the tremendous good fortune that I've also had to, you know, be born at a point where you could buy one could buy a house in a major city. The place where I was talking about down where I was misusing the Home Depot truck, that was a house. This is going to make everyone super furious, and I don't mean it to, but that was a house that my first ex and I bought for, I think, $162,000. We put down $5,000 in – that was the total of the down payment. It was an FHA loan. um so it was like insured by the government basically because i didn't neither of us had enough work experience or whatever to like qualify for a normal mortgage and you know

We lived in the house for a year, sold it, made enough money to move to L.A. to buy a house there that then increased greatly in value, which I then lost in the divorce. But anyway, then I end up buying this house with Van in Mount Baker that somehow luckily appreciated, which allowed me to buy the Burbank Springs Broadcast Center, which I also then parted ways with. But throughout my life, this real estate stuff, buying a house and having it appreciate has been the only good financial decision I've ever made. And I've had nothing to do with it. I just got like the idea that Addy will maybe never buy a house and that I'm on this house that I bought that I'm trying to fix up would be house number like five or something that I've been able to purchase. It's all from the first house that I was able to buy for $160,000 because I just happened to be born at a time when that was a thing that happened. Yeah. Through no through no special hard work on my part or savvy or anything. And so that, yeah, the inequality as it relates to homeownership in this country and the accretion of wealth around homeownership is ridiculous. I was just looking at a stat the other day about just how if you take the like one percent out of it all, they also own a shitload of property. but even just like the people that are doing okay almost everyone they've seen their wealth increase in ridiculous ways just through owning homes or a home because now every home is a million dollars like it went from you know so it's a and it's not fair to the to the other generations people that are driving around going buy the bride a drink on their venmo i mean i don't know if those people also own a home right but my guess is no and and you know so you're Right. That's good to keep in perspective. The other thing that I saw yesterday on my travels that was interesting, I was in line at the Alaska Airlines check-in in San Diego, and there was a couple in front of me, and they were kind of taking their time. They had a kid with them, and they started to walk away from the, you know, whatever you call it, the check-in, and they had forgotten something, and the gate agent said, oh, hey, over here, come back, and the guy came back, and the gate agent was trying to explain to him that he was giving him the receipt for when you check your bags. Oh, okay, yeah. like and the guy was it became clear the guy didn't speak any english so they were trying to kind of use pantomime and um explain that they hold on to these like little receipts because they're for your bags at your desk at your destination and then they said the guy they gave him the thing and he kind of walked away a little confused back to his wife and kid and the gate agent said those are folks from ukraine and they just came here from tijuana that it's easier for a lot of refugees from ukraine right now to go to mexico and then come into the u.s via mexico

then via canada for reasons that i don't fully understand but that was just this weird little moment where i'm you know just living my life and i'm thinking about ocean liners from the 1950s yeah you know what am i gonna have for dinner in stockton and it's just like i'm living my life doing my thing and then right in front of me are is a displaced family yeah that has come from ukraine the the like i said the the guy working for alaska was like oh yeah we're just seeing people from ukraine left and right coming through here because they're going to mexico they're coming across the border at tijuana and now we're processing them to places that have a ukrainian ukrainian american community and it just kind of stopped me in my tracks i was like holy shit man this is real yeah like i know that we know it's real right yeah right i know we know it's real and i'm not trying to center myself in this story the story is of this family that was displaced but I was just like, damn, this is really happening.

No, I mean, I think that's good. I mean, that's one of those things where, of course, I mean, we read these stories and we've been reading these stories for two months now or whatever it's been. And of course, we're not ignoring it. And of course, we know it's real. But I also think there is something very human about it. Like once you it doesn't I mean, listen, it's also very far away. Like what is happening is physically very far away. And then when there's a reminder that like, oh, we're all not that far away. I think that's very human. Yeah.

Yeah, it was a good reminder for me that I've been, and to the Venmo conversation, a couple of good reminders to me that I have tremendous privilege in this world.

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man, it's not from a female.

All righty, females, emails, ideally ones that take roughly six minutes.

I am such an idiot I have first of all I mentioned that I wanted to start the show with a little ray of sunshine and I have a voicemail that I can end the show with that is an absolute ray of sunshine that's going to delight you why does that make you an idiot because the voicemail also asks a question and i've been so excited about um playing the voicemail that i forgot to look up the answer to the question so i'm going to play this voicemail for you first and then i'm going to desperately search around for the answer to this which is uh not as easy as it should have been based on the way i uh label my computer files okay take a listen to this i look at

Andrew, we just kind of had a question about the Razzle Dazzle song, because me and my mom don't know the name of it, but we want to listen to it, but we don't know who sings it, so let me just sing this song to you for a minute. Everybody razzle, dazzle Everybody razzle, dazzle Everybody razzle, dazzle Everybody razzle, dazzle

So that, by the way, is Nola Who I believe is also behind the Behind the We Can Like Different Things song Really? Yeah, listener Nola nola and um now i know that there are various versions of the razzle dazzle song the most

famous one yeah go ahead may i take a moment to just say nola has a very tuneful singing voice oh yeah for being a young person like nola was really in tune everybody razzle dazzle like nola was right there i know that's like impressive i just want to say nola i'll see you on american idol in 10 years do you think american idol will still be there in 10 years probably not

it'll be but nola good singing i can't hide my singing will be the show that um i saw you trying to hide your singing yeah i saw you trying to hide your singing last summer will be will be the thing and you know what i uh hosted by north west one of kim and kanye's kids Can I on the fly find the version that we play Because Bill Haley and the Comets do a Probably the most famous version of that But the one that we play is not Bill Haley and the Comets

I wish I could be more help but I have to say I feel like this is a song that you located That you play each day and that I love All these years later I am not tired of that song yet But I'm kind of no help on the origin

Yeah I was so excited to play the voicemail So here's what I'm going to do for Nola and Gretchen who's uh calling along with her i'm going to um find this and i will answer the song tomorrow i'm really sorry this whole show well whatever uh i haven't been my best and i i feel bad about that um but we're gonna straighten things out tomorrow you're gonna be here in person with me we're gonna find the answer to this question we're gonna take the refrigerator to the street together i'm gonna force you to do that with me taking it to the street exactly and um and then i'll get an answer for this i see you know it's mucking things up here apparently razzle dazzle is also a song that was in um chicago the musical chicago did you know that i don't know if it's the first one or not but uh that's definitely not the version that we're playing so i saw somebody write on twitter

yesterday throwback to that time when i was out of ideas for a writing project so i just wrote the plot of chicago and presented it as my and i and won an award for best story in the school that

sounds barbarian i would have 100 done that easy columbo hey let me um let me try something here i found a song on um youtube from 1955 by ella may morse and i'm thinking this might be it but i have to play that sounds familiar hey there you go oh yeah now ready ready go everybody

There you go.

Nola, it's Ella May Morse doing Razzle Dazzle in 1955. Good find, Andrew. I was stressed. I was stressed. But also, that was just such a wonderful voicemail to take us out today. Thank you for calling in. Thank you, Nola.

Call in any time. Any songs you want to sing? Any message you want to leave us, please. It's like, as they say, giving me life on this otherwise bummerific Tuesday. All right, that is going to do it for the show. I've got an ocean liner from the 50s to go visit. The producer is already there, and she said, if you have any allergies, take your medicine now. It's very moldy.

Oh, moldy, yeah.

So that'll be good. That'll be good. We'll see what happens. Anyway, thanks for listening, everyone. I will be, and we will be back here tomorrow. I will be at Andrew's actual home helping him unload a refrigerator. So we'll see you then. from seattle until then have a great tuesday take care of yourselves um and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

If you make a mistake, it's all right. You can fix it, and you don't need to worry, because we can fix our mistakes. And like my dad made a mistake with the coffee maker and we were able to fix it. And sometimes when you write, you can fix it. And it's all right when you make a mistake. You can fix it easily. Power out.