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Carla Tuesday, WDUR, The Durr. Reverend Richard, is it true that you'll be representing yourself?

Carla, let me tell you a little story. I was walking on the beach with the Lord, and there were two sets of footprints in the sand. And then there were three sets of footprints, and I said, who's that? And the Lord said, it's Dale Earnhardt. He's a big fan of yours. My client won't be answering any more of your questions. Stay in school, kids.

at first he's silly and then he's magical and quite wonderful and you just don't know how to react except you're entranced so we're gonna play a little game called cursed or not cursed you

sound like you might be a little bit jealous babe no and i i know a little something about being jealous because people have been jealous of me my entire life i have no idea what you just said but I feel totally transformed. In a few hours you're going to be smarter than anyone

you've ever met. All right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a Wednesday morning edition of TBTL the show that just might be too beautiful to live. My name is Luke Burbank I am your host coming to you for the first time ever at least in my experience from inside

This is special. This is special.

The inner sound sanctum of the offices of Walsh, Walsh, and Dormat, right here in the sweet cream district of Seattle, Washington. Oh, ma, pa, it's just beautiful. That's right. Coming to you for the first time from Andrew's new place, and it is special. It is special. Just like episode 3676 in a collector's series is special. Let the fun begin. We talked about the story last week of the woman who fell into the, they call it a pit toilet. It's the kind of thing they have out at a lot of national parks and state parks. And it was obviously kind of a somewhat gross story, but it was also a story that raised more questions than it provided answers. Can you verify? Can you give me some 411? Thankfully, we are getting some answers as to how something like that could even happen. The details are pretty dazzling. although we're still trying to figure out what the actual level of grumpy grumpy, pardon the term pardon the term, was in the pit but anyway, we will read you the latest by way of Outside Magazine also, I learned an important lesson this morning about not being in a hurry that I'd like to share with all of you And I'd like to share that with this guy, the longest-running cobro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. I consider him a confidant and also a friendo. Call it friendo. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now from just across this broadcast table. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. Welcome. Welcome to the neighborhood. Is that an Avis key ring? Sure is. Are you showing off your keys? It's a wizard's wand, really, if you're at the level that I'm at. Your car keys are on the table. Oh, but those must be rental car keys. Correct. I see. So that is, you're not just ostentatiously showing off your wizard status as you're like, okay, fine, you got a new home? Well, just a reminder, I'm a wizard.

Andrew, I don't know if you noticed, but I do have a special Avis tag that goes on my regular car keys just to make sure you don't get too high on your own supply. No, I have to say, like, the hardest part of my day is already over. And I have a fairly busy day. I'm going to be recording here with you, and then I'm going to be heading off to Bainbridge Island to interview a bunch of people about the origins of the sport of pickleball. And then I'm going to be coming back over here, and you and I are going to be working on some special programming. But the hardest part of my day was coming into your and Genevieve's beautiful new home And not getting waylaid for one to two hours Just analyzing every nook, cranny, piece of molding, etc And you actually gave me a heads up, I think yesterday Because you knew that I was on a bit of a tight time crunch And you said, listen, I know what you and Genevieve, what your instincts are And I just, for your own, and you were just doing this for my sake This is 100% for my sake. You said you're going to want to stifle those instincts and just come down to the broadcast center and just get to the show. Because otherwise, I could still be upstairs just crawling around under your new dining room table, which is awesome, by the way.

Exactly. I was going to say, I remember the time back in our old apartment where you'd been many times. But this table that we're using right now to podcast on, I remember what it was.

You got a Kixi window cling? Oh, yeah. I got a Kixi window cling. What do you think about that? Should that be? That looks like it was here when you moved in. I promise you, growing up in Seattle and moving around from time to time, 100%, if you went into a garage, either a rental house or a house you bought, where there was a guy who had his workstation where he would tinker with things, there was 100% a Kixi sticker somewhere in that work area. If that person was working in that environment in the 80s.

Well, let me ask you this. Because, okay, so this is a basement studio I'm in. But there's small little windows up near the top of the room. Top of the room to you. And so I have this.

Cinco de Mayo.

I have this Kixi window cling.

I love it so much.

That our friend Katie, kind of an insider we have there. That's our mole. Exactly. Katie gave me that AM 880 Kixi window cling But I have it clung to the inside of my window here So if you're on the outside of the house It'll read normally But we're looking at it backwards Should I flip that around? Should I go outside and cling that to the outside in? So I'm the one who's looking at it

If anybody has been granted access To this inner sound sanctum They know what Kixi is Yes, that's true This is a message to your immediate neighbors To the crows and the bunny rabbits. Whoever may pass by this window, they're the people that need to get the message that this is music as cool today as it was yesterday. That's right, as it was then. As it was then. We've practiced this. We've practiced this. We've practiced this. Again, I just can't tell you how many, like, Kixi or maybe Como AM 1000, which would be like your Husky station. Sure, yeah, yeah. When Larry Nelson was at the helm. This is only interesting to longtime Seattleites. But like those were just the kind of that's I love the ephemera of talk radio from like basically the 70s and 80s, like the key chains, the the sticker. Like, again, it would be like in a garage somewhere like next to a maybe a poster of like the Bud Light girls that was just super faded just because of the sun, like just completely washed out or something like or a Spuds McKenzie, you know, painter's cap or just some shit.

Or a froggy 101. Well, those are more newsrooms, I think. But actually, you talk about the ephemera of talk radio. I think it's okay for me to say this here publicly. So our pal and former colleague Ross Reynolds, longtime host on public radio.

I was just texting with the Rastafarian. Oh, yeah? How's he doing? He's doing well. He is working more and is busier in his retirement than most of us are in our non-retirement.

Sounds about right. So he was on the air on KUOW for years and years and years. And now that he's retired from that, one of his projects that he's doing is he's going through the archives and taking kind of his feature interviews with, you know, whether they're whether they're people with broad perspectives on whatever the direction.

If they've got hair, chutzpah or broad based appeal. What is that criteria? That's a drop I sometimes play for you. It's all Alex Trebek introducing somebody on Jeff. Yes.

But anyway, he was telling me about this. He's got hair.

He's got chutzpah and broad-based knowledge. That's what it is.

He's taking interviews with, like, Nora Ephron or, you know what I mean, whether they're directors or whatever. So he's taking these kind of more feature interviews that he's done over the course of his entire career and kind of repackaging them. And I'm trying to get to his website. You can find him on Instagram, and that'll get you there because it's important to him. And I'm happy to promote that. But I also told him, don't sleep on the ephemera because the structure of his old show used to be you and I both worked on it. I think you were a founding producer. Were you a founding producer?

I mean, that sounds grandiose, but I was the first producer he hired.

I think that's literally a founding producer. And so by the time I don't know what it was like when it first started. But by the time I worked on that show, you know, it begin with like three short form interviews with like council people about immediate issues of the day or maybe even a police officer or whatever. was just like three five or six minute interviews boom boom boom that would sort of set the news agenda for the day and then the more featurey stuff would happen in the show and I gotta say and I didn't want to be insulting to him um talking about his the feature work that he's proud of but I said you know what really appeals to me is the time machine aspect of just hearing those more ephemeral interviews like I remember working on that show 10 years ago or whatever it was and booking Bruce Harrell as a council member you know what I mean like and now of course he's he's the mayor here and like i kind of sort of find that interesting you know like i i like that i like those moments the ones that are a little bit less curated and less featurey um i but i don't think there's a huge appetite for it i guess you'd have a listener of me basically or me okay because i'm the same way that's good because yeah i ate more you got a tbtl

I scrolled through his site as well And yeah I was really struck by it Boy he's really interviewed some heavy hitters over the years Which is a cool thing But I'm with you that I'm personally more likely To want to go find Some like if Let's just say if you and I were trying to do a Luke and Andrew's radio Collab Like retrospective or a website More than when we had Barry Sheck on I would want the guy who Ate the accidentally ate the barbecue The barbecue bristle Like the thing you clean your barbecue with That had made its way into a steak He cooked and then into his body Then perforated something And I believe you tracked him down in the hospital In the hospital, best booking I've ever done And that, see like those kind of moments Or I know what you're saying too Just like folks Before they were the people that they would ultimately become

Or just Or even just like if we're using The Ross and Burbank example Like just you and Ross just talking about you and Dave Ross just talking about something from 2012 or you know what I mean after the NFC game the championship game was that 2012 the huge win probably whatever it was you know I mean like it doesn't even have to be the guest or the power of the guest just sort of like dipping into radio as you would dip into it back in the day you know just what am I catching here you know because interviews as cool now as they were then I haven't done it since we moved because i've been busy but when i had a lot more spare time um like i was messing around on the internet archive quite a bit and just like looking for random radio from the 1970s and i wasn't looking for like the interviews with people who are names now and what did they have to say then i just found like i ended up on some uh armed forces uh radio network stuff that was actually broadcasting out of vietnam at the time you played did i play some of that like i think you played it as a music for your weekend that's right i did yeah because i loved the and there was that ad for yeah looking for a new engineer and that's when i realized it was armed forces radio because it was like gentlemen we need you to be an engineer i was like sexist and it's like ask your commanding officer i'm like oh this is the army i won them an army mother so uh anyway yeah i love ephemera

yeah i i i tend to go towards the the the sort of the stuff that's more quirky and more of a particular moment in time um definitely um but yeah people should go check out uh our friend ross's website where he has all kinds of uh cool archival tape um andrew this morning what'd you do did you yell at a kid i would i kind of wanted to i so um i got into town pretty late last night i think around maybe midnight or so oh one thing that happened that was interesting was in the time between when my flight took off from Sacramento and landed in Seattle, my work, CBS, canceled one of my corporate credit cards. Oh.

Is this a Chrome River situation?

It is, Andrew. It is. We're going up the Chrome River without a paddle.

Is it because you're switching over your systems? Yes.

Not because you weren't a bad boy, were you? I mean, I am the bad boy of CBS Sunday morning but we so that we had these Amex cards for years that was the corporate card that's what you would use to do the travel and it was the default setting on all my accounts my Avis wizardry that put my Bonvoy my everything that was repetitive that I would use for travel referred back to this card and they've been emailing us saying we're switching over to these new cards they mailed them to us I got to show you this new card it's weird it looks is it heavy No, it actually looks really janky, even though this is the new card.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, my gosh. It feels like one of those cardboard. Yes, it feels like the card that they send you that's a gimmick. Yes, exactly.

I loved those as a kid, by the way.

Well, it doesn't seem just absolute. It says Paramount on it. Apparently, that's who I work for. Oh, yeah, Paramount. You work for Paramount. I work for Paramount, so I'm in the pictures, Andrew. If you play your cards right, I could get you into a talkie with Rudy Valentino.

All your dreams are coming true. When you moved to Portland, you said, I'm going to make it in the picture. I just need you to come over to this couch, Andrew.

Oh, no. But sorry. So this card, I think, is very light, and it has the look of something that was mailed to me that I ripped out of a larger paper context, and then I'm just seeing how much money I can get off of it before they shut it down.

You know what? If people want to know what it looks like, I'll take a picture of the back of it and use it as a show pic.

Yeah, exactly. so they've been telling me forever so this is the old card that I had which I think was much more was much more serious looking it looks like that classic and it says CBS television on it or something like that I don't know and it's got the what is it a gladiator guy whatever the guy from American Express is yeah it's green yeah

It's like this is to me like a classic. This card conveys a certain amount of gravitas. Oh, okay. The Paramount one is not American Express. That's why. No, it's a different. It's a totally. It's MasterCard. I don't know why I need to get this. I know. In the weeds. The point is. Give me the three numbers on the back. The point is I land and all of a sudden Avis is going. I'm trying to like do the thing I do on the plane where I select the exact car I'm going to be in. And they go, no, sorry, your credit card doesn't work. And I was like, what? and i realized that in the hour and 40 minutes i've been in the air this card has finally been turned off as they've been threatening and this card is now turned on but it's uh it's like 12 15 seattle time yeah and so i had to like call this number i was shocked a human being answered wait are you to activate that card to activate this new card gotcha and use it to like start paying for things i see they didn't let you activate it online let you do that um i i guess i could have but that seemed more daunting to me on my iphone as i was on the airport shuttle yeah yeah so i called the number it was like a sticker that has a phone number and a url yeah so anyway that was kind of the first hoop i had to jump through last night but anyway i got to the hotel and um i the hotel that i selected was because of its proximity to green lake i love jogging around green lake It's one of my very favorite things to do in Seattle And anyway I did that this morning I got up, I ran the lake Was feeling good about that decision And I jumped back in the car And I'm starting to kind of think Okay, what's my timeline here this morning It was probably at this point It was about 7.30, 7.40 And I was like, okay I really got to get back to the hotel Because I need to shower I need to get a few more TBTL things together I got to drive to Andrew and Genevieve's new place I don't know how far that is And I'm starting to have that kind of building stress in the back of my mind where I was like, oh, I was lollygag and I was taking my time, kind of having a nice leisurely morning. And now it's starting to get because I've got to go right from here to the ferry to the shoot. OK, so I come around this corner. I was over at the part of Green Lake where that the community center is.

OK, so you're you're still jogging at this point, but you're doing done jogging. I'm in the car. You're in the car.

You're jog is over in the car. OK, I'm just I'm kind of the the you know, I'm in the afterglow of the of jogging. But the afterglow is wearing off quickly because I'm realizing that I really need to kind of like I probably should get get moving here. OK, so I drive my car up this side street and I end up right by the Little Red Hen. Yeah. Which is this classic bar in Seattle that every time I go past it and it's still there, I'm I know pleasantly shocked.

It's like a country western bar in a dive bar and it's right in Seattle and Green Lake where everything is, you know, like the gentrification.

I mean not that it was ever not fancy That area of town Green Lake has always been Pretty sought after but I all of a sudden As I'm passing the little red hen I realized that on All four corners of this four way Stop are children Oh yeah tiny children Adorable yeah tiny Children who are all going to This daycare slash School called la escuelita which is I think a bilingual school are they all Lashed together or some of them like they're not and I was looking for that. No lat, no, there were no... How does that work? Is it attached to their belts or are they just holding, everybody's just holding onto a rope? I think they hold onto a rope because I think if they were actually tied into it and you fell down, it'd be like that scene in Ben-Hur when like they're rowing and when someone falls out, just the thing keeps going. So this was, none of these kids were tied together. They all had enough adults, mostly their parents, but it was like, it felt to me like maybe a hundred kids and parents and teachers and everyone's just and

the kids are going and that part of town impossible to drive through during the best of times as well there's all these intersections that are like five or six street intersections and there's tons of pedestrian traffic which is good you got to give the pedestrians the right away but that yes that little yes tangle it's not literally it's not tangled town but it's all tangled up around there And it is impossible to drive through

You're exactly right And this was the worst of the worst Because now I'm like terrified One of these kids is going to break free And like run into the street So I'm going really really slow And all the kids are having a great time But it's just it's upped my anxiety level Also two cyclists Andrew I'm sorry I'm not trying to be on this harangue Two cyclists completely violate The you know Four way stop itness of it In other words they just shoot through because they're on bikes and, you know, they should have waited another cycle or whatever. And then there's this moving truck that's now going and I let the moving truck go because I'm trying to be nice. But in that time now, two more pedestrians. And there's two workers and they're carrying a pane of glass. Yes, exactly. A pane of glass, I should say. Someone has just stacked a final orange on a pyramid of oranges. Right, there's a piano mover that's lowering a piano.

a high rise and i'm just like the i i love little kids like i i am enchanted by them i just think that they're they're funny interesting i love other people's little kids because i don't have to actually like raise them or deal with them when they're in bad moods somebody said on twitter the other day you know we should do let's have kids let's go from having a leisurely saturday to a crisis about someone not drawing a sports uniform and i was like yeah that that's that checks out that checks out like so i i love little kids but i found myself in this moment in this intersection resenting these children for some reason who had done nothing yeah but i just what i was really annoyed at was that everything was just i was like the frog in frogger there was this tiny window of me to get through this four-way stop and it just kept getting interrupted by either a parent with their kid the kid was probably named i don't want to pick a name because whenever this will have that name it'll hurt their feelings but like anyway i just found myself looking at some of these kids and just being like calm calm down everyone like just i just had this moment of just annoyance uh-huh and so i finally get through the intersection and as i get to the next intersection with by greg's green lake cycles i see a car and i'm like huh that's interesting that car looks familiar it's a subaru forester and then i i go i wonder if i wonder who's driving at subaru forester and in the car is my actual daughter really and i see her and i'm like oh my god so she goes through this other far away stop uh we're now far away from all of the young children so i like hang a hard right she does not see you does not see me i'm also like in a random honda accord from avis and she has no idea i'm even in town because i'm only here for like 11 hours yeah i uh i i take her right i follow her i drive next to her i'm beeping i pull up next to She's not looking at you, but just gripping the steering wheel ever tighter, ever tighter. As she would explain later. Because what do you do? I've considered texting her, but I didn't want to text her while she was driving. Yeah, yeah. So what do you do when you randomly see your 28-year-old daughter in the wild, and you're both in different cars, and you want to say hi? So I drive up on the side, and I'm beeping, and I'm like, she is going to definitely think that somebody is having road rage. But she looks over, and the shock. You know, I live primarily in Portland. She had no idea I'm in Seattle this day This morning at 7.40 a.m. And suddenly I'm like beep beep beep Hey! And she just was like Could not put together in her mind What was going on

Did she almost have that Because me and my dad I think are both Subject to this When we're surprised our face goes Real jerk face real fast Like I surprised my dad for his I want to say his 65th birthday or something And I was living in Seattle So it was quite the surprise I don't think I'd ever surprised him before When I flew into Cleveland, actually, to make to make things even more complicated, I flew into Akron, I think, because that was the only place I could fly in. So, like, my stepmom, my stepmom somehow convinced him to go to Akron so that I could fly in and surprise them. And I remember he was sitting at a table in a restaurant and I came up to him. I'm like, hello. And he looked up at me and I've never seen him more angry at me. It was just confusion. He didn't see me. It was just pure confusion. And I realized I gave my neighbor that face the other day. I had my headphones on. I was vacuuming out my car with my little like extraction, like my wet extraction cleaner thing. And I'm listening to something with my big ass headphones. And all of a sudden, like, I don't know. I just sort of like realize out of the corner of my eye, somebody has been standing there trying to get my attention. And I think I once I like turn to him, I think I he recoiled from my face. I think I gave him such a grumpy, grumpy face. So was Adelaide kind of similar?

She was surprisingly, considering I had been like beeping at her and pulled up on the side, like in a not what was not fully Elaine.

Yeah.

And I'm a dude. Yeah. She's a woman. She was surprisingly, it took her, it didn't take her as much time as I would have expected to go from what to, ah, dad. Like she didn't go with, but that's just, you know, there's no accounting for how our particular faces respond to being surprised in these ways.

Were you wearing your clown makeup? Because I noticed you came here, you're in full clown makeup. I don't know if it's a pickleball thing or what.

I started the run with the clown makeup, but a lot of it, I'd sweated a lot of it. So it was kind of, it was, I would say it was, yeah. Uh-huh. I will, I did get some looks on the trail. Okay, interesting, yeah. That was definitely noted by the other people out there. Well, it looks great now. But anyway, so then we pulled over when we chatted and hugged and took this very cute picture that I'm showing Andrew now. Oh, nice, cute, yeah. Come on, look at that. Oh, yeah. Father, daughter. She was on her way to meet one of my cousins, my mom's, my Aunt Mary Lou's kids, who she, my daughter, takes a walk with around Green Lake every week. The one we call Little Rachel. There's so many kids in our families that if two of them have the same name, like I have a sister named Rachel. Yeah. This is my cousin Rachel, but she's.

forever little Rachel. Right. Even though she herself is probably like 27.

And names like Rachel, biblical names, Lukes, Rachels, you know.

Yeah, well, now there's two Lukes in my family, and that is I've been severely downgraded in the Luke department.

Oh, wow. You were the alpha Luke for a while.

I'm the beta Luke. I've been cucked like you wouldn't believe. Anytime that I'm with my family now, like the larger group, and anyone says anything about Luke, excuse me, I get emotional even talking about it. Anybody says anything about Luke, it's not me.

That's interesting so there was a time when You were the default Luke is maybe a better way Of putting it and then you have to you have to qualify If you're talking about the other Luke Whereas now the default Luke Is your nephew and the one that everyone's

Talking to and at so they'll say Luke Luke you know he's Five so he's getting into Things you know you need to do act Up uh-huh I will get that attention Andrew whatever it Takes knocking things off the Shelves whatever I guess the point of that story is to say had I not been delayed and I let that moving truck go because I mean it was totally like just it was just serendipity it was if I arrive at that second intersection 10 seconds later or 10 seconds earlier I do not ever interact with my daughter this morning. And I only we only arrived at that other four way stop at the same moment because of the things that were bothering me on my way to that moment of my life. The kids, the moving truck, the cyclists who were going out of turn. All of it was putting me in exactly this moment where I got to see my daughter, which is probably which was like the highlight of my day already.

Oh, yeah. Andrew, real talk. Interesting. I had that backwards. I think about that sliding doors effect quite a bit. But unfortunately, I think about it in a slightly darker way. But if I have a regular route home somewhere and I decide to go a different way, I always think like I drive way more carefully because I think like if something bad happens to me, if I get whether if I get sideswiped, if I just do anything stupid, I will always think like, why didn't I take my usual route home? And, like, now that I'm in a newer place, I don't know that I have a lot of usual routes, but I, you know, every now and then, like, any driver, you have choices to make, right? Am I going to take the back way, the front way, like, whatever? And I always think, like, okay, I am making a decision now, so please don't let this be a decision that I remember in the future. I think about it in that way. Wow.

That's intense. That's intense for you. It's a lot I'm putting on myself there. I'm glad that I mean I occasionally have that with flights where if I am if a flight is canceled and I end up on a different flight or if I just decide at the last minute to take I will sometimes think I wonder if that was the best or worst thing I could have done you know I'll have that thought but I don't have it necessarily about the route that I might be taking on a particular day in my car. But I will just say that, like, that was I was after getting to see Addy and then driving back to the hotel. I was really first of all, I was just like it made me so happy that I got to see her. And it also just really struck me. I was like, there are definitely times where I get very frustrated about things. And ultimately, the outcome is much better because of it. And it applies to things that, you know, like, you know, you and Genevieve, you have this lovely home now. And there were other homes that you had looked at That you were probably And I'm going to just kind of speculate here Particularly Genevieve Was maybe especially disappointed To have been outbid on or to not get And you know You didn't get those places and you got this place And it's so awesome for you

Exactly and I think about that a lot Because we didn't get a place that Genevieve Immediately started calling our dream home That was actually not too far from here actually And I'm really glad we didn't That other house was more stylish in certain ways and definitely needed less work in all ways, but didn't have the space this place does, doesn't have a studio like this, what you and I are calling the rumpus room

outside this door. Let the wild rumpus begin, man.

Gotta get a John Cunger Mellencamp poster, man.

You got such, I mean, yes, that's another thing I'm so excited for. I remember when you came over to Burbank Springs for the first time and you were like, in the basement and you were like, this is rumpus. Yeah.

Yours was way more rumpus because you had a ping pong table i'm thinking about putting a dartboard right outside my office door but anyway um so i'm really happy we ended up with this but like and i think about that all the time like i would not of any of the and listen there are frustrations with this place like we already lost electricity in three outlets that's fixed we've already we're our refrigerator already broke like we're you're helping me take that to the curb later i think um you know there this is not a perfect place but it feels like my perfect place for some reason like i immediately am just like once it was ours I feel very connected to this place and I can't imagine living anywhere else but like if we had just started our search i don't know a month later or it would have been different you know what i mean like and i might be in a different house right now we're closing on a different house right now that i feel just as passionate about like it's so hard for me to like remember and i'm not everything happens for a reason kind of guy no i just think i've always thought that that was your general approach you know that's genevieve's that's her real she hates that phrase like um everything happens for a reason but um but things do happen and then you end up where you are and like that's a less poetic way of putting things it's just like really hard for me to imagine what would have happened if we again had just started that because we also thought it was going to be a longer process we thought this was going to be a five or six month process which is why we started it so early like we could have started it later and ended up somewhere in a completely different part of town but feeling just as passionate about what we were moving into but i can't i don't have the capacity to contemplate that this is my home

And it's a lovely home at that Andrew I have to say Now on the subject of headphones You were talking about how you had your headphones on You were cleaning your car and your neighbor was trying to talk to you What do you think The Appropriate number of times To talk to somebody who's clearly wearing AirPod Pros on a flight is

Because I had a real Clearly is the thing there That's the thing about the iPod The AirPod things is it's less obvious

I mean and yet if you're sitting right next to someone Oh, sure. I would say it's pretty my flight up here as as Amex was shutting off my account. The person sitting next to me on the flight who worked for the airline, by the way, was in full airline regalia. She had been flying somewhere else and was now, as they say, deadheading home was it was very interesting because she was at the end of a long day. I was at the end of a long day. I felt like, again, she works for the airline. I just thought this is a person who would be very happy to just zone out. Yeah. Not have to talk to a passenger. Not have to talk to a passenger. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm very happy to zone out here. I actually saw something on TikTok or sorry, on Twitter. I saw something on Twitter that got in my head the other day and it was a woman tweeting. Shout out to all the guys sitting next to you on planes who feel the need to say nothing. Yeah. Yeah. I tried to be that. That really kind of went into my head. I'm not overly talkative on airplanes, but I was especially like, you know what? I hadn't really thought of it in exactly that way. But if somebody wants to initiate conversation, fine. But I'm just going to not be the person who's talking someone's ear off, particularly a woman who I don't know.

I will like every now and then if if there's like a politeness thing, I told you that there was a I was in the very, very last row of my last flight. I guess I was coming back from Cleveland sitting next to a woman and her kid. And like, I remember at one point, like offering some somewhere near the beginning of the flight, maybe offering like, hey, do you need a tickle party or something? No, I said something polite. Like, do you need this or do you want me to move or something? I don't know what it was. And then when she said no, I thought to myself now for the next three to five minutes, this woman is wondering if I'm going to say anything else after that, because sometimes somebody will say something. And it often is like sort of a Budinsky kind of guy, although it's not always that, who will kind of say one little polite thing, but then they think that that's their they're inviting themselves into a broader conversation. So whenever I have a quick interaction like that, even if I, you know, my intentions are good, just offer somebody something. I will then specifically shut the hell up and know that there's a chance that the person sitting next to me is uncomfortable, wondering if there's going to be a follow up and then another follow up. And then they're going to have to, like, start to shut me down.

I never want to be that person well that was sort of what I was thinking with this person who was sitting next to me uh because you know we we chatted very briefly you know as the flight was as everybody was loading on the flight and then I kind of put my put my airpods back in because I was like listening to a podcast and I was just kind of staring out the window and then so I had she was explaining stuff about what her job entailed working for the airline and and some things having to do with alaska airlines's current policy you know and like they've got a thing going on with by the way our guy will is just all over the news there's this dominant gates piece in the times today about all these flights that got canceled on sunday and monday um but anyway um i did name drop wilter i was like i actually happen to know the the the head of the pilots union she's like oh will good guy he's a good guy i was like yeah um i didn't mention what podcast like that guy well i would have gotten off the flight that would have been my sign to slide off that door and get on a different flight can you imagine anybody's reaction to will being

anything other than great guy uh maybe the um owners of alaska airlines no but i actually even think them they would say great guy yeah and i'm different sides of an issue yeah and i'm not saying

that you know no he is and i think that the pilots and the flight attendants this this woman is a flight attendant and her husband's a pilot uh-huh so i was getting like the real lowdown on on both kind of contract things and and a lot of stuff and i i feel that the pilots and the flight attendants have a lot of valid concerns and points and they deserve to be you know compensated fairly etc but i also was surprised at how many times this person who's a professional airplane beer honorer kept just reinitiating conversations after i put my air I'd put them in, and then I would just stare the other way out the window, and then she would say something else. And then I would take my AirPod out. Like, if somebody was sitting next to me with AirPods in or headphones on, unless the plane was going down, I would not keep talking to them. I mean, even then I might not because maybe they're in their reverie. Maybe their plan is when the plane starts going down, I put on Time Cop 1983. I have a plan, Andrew. Wow. I put on Time Cop 1983, and I close my eyes. I undo my seatbelt. This is my new thing. I was thinking about this the other day. Not trying to be dark, but if I were in a plane, and it were at a huge, high altitude, and it just plummeted, I think I would try to get at least seven seconds of weightlessness. I think I'd undo my seatbelt, and I would just see if I could let myself float up the airplane so that my last... And I know this is dark. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be morbid. but I don't I'm not going to survive it being buckled in is not going to be the difference I'm not talking about the plane is making a rough landing I'm talking about the thing falls out of the sky I'm maybe not maybe not time cop 1983 1983 maybe I put on you know some kind of I don't know if I have time also Spotify is really annoying about what's supposedly downloaded and not downloaded I have a million albums that are allegedly downloaded but half the time when i'm in the air they go you need to download this playlist i'm like i it's in download that i found it in downloads how do i not have this album but i would hopefully put on a song i really like and then just like undo my seatbelt and then just float up through the cabin of the plane

and then you know just be done to the tune of acdc's i'm looking all over for it are you ready for a good time.

That's your grumpy tape. Grumpy. Or a little term. Anyway, we should go to the break and then come back and do something. God, I'm just glad I'm driving to Denver.

Okay, so that's you've officially, you've made that call. Well, I think so. You and I talked the other day. I need to make some moves on that. But there is something about the reason, you know, for the upcoming TB Telethon. We're going to be doing it from Denver in just a couple of weeks now, starting on the 23rd. We're going to have game nights in the evening. More details on how to sign up for those soon. And then a meetup on Friday the 27th in Denver But you know When I mentioned to you I'm thinking about all the equipment that I gotta take I'm just like the idea of getting that through Through security Or having to check my bags And then I don't trust getting them back All of the malarkey that goes along with flying Especially with equipment sounds Kind of odious to me But then also like I love a road trip And I just do not like flying that much weirdly i like sitting in an airport more than you do i can sit in an airport and watch people all day sit in an airport bar get a little bit tight and like watch people walk by absolutely imagine their backstories but like the actual like oh like for whatever time you save on the plane i'd rather just be in a car for two days by myself listening to the radio um driving like bart and what's bart's little friend's name millhouse millhouse isn't there a famous meme of those two just like driving probably together yeah and it'll be me and i guess i don't have a millhouse that's kind of sad but yeah no i'm really looking forward to that it's good the idea of skipping all of the airport bullshit and not sitting on the plane and unfortunately my brain all often does go to that point of like well what would happen if something bad were to happen now i hate living with that in my brain i'm not super afraid of flying but the um you

would fit in really well with the cbs camera crews you would like first of all you'd be actually very good at that job but there i was just talking yesterday when i was in in stockton i was talking to our camera guy gilbert who had driven down from san francisco he's one of our staff camera guys and he had been up in portland to cover biden had had come to portland on on um earth day i think and before Earth Day Day before Earth Day and Gilbert was saying he had driven from San Francisco to Portland instead of flying because those camera guys have so much gear so many Pelican cases yeah and it's such a hassle to deal with that they will drive I work with this other guy Mike Hernandez who lives in Mississippi and will regularly drive across the country yeah or I mean you know maybe maybe he'll go like three states sure yeah like he will do he will easily do a 20 Hour drive over the course of a couple of days Rather than a six Hour flight yeah where he's got to check it all on yeah check it all off that all like the all the camera folks they just have they trade their war stories but they're all their default setting is always like if i can drive to this thing i will drive to it you would you would be in in there

in league with them the idea of just being able to pack up your car well maybe not the night before you don't leave all that equipment in your car the night before but the the idea of just having all of your equipment ready to go by the front door and i'm picturing myself here and then loading up the car in the morning and um just getting on the road without having to think okay first do we uh first i got to get to the airport how am i getting to the airport then how am i getting through security blah blah blah blah blah like it just seems so you just save so much time like you're losing time obviously on the ground and actual travel but i think that like honestly you

the emotional the time that you save not having the anxiety that you would be having is is i mean how do you how do you put a number on that how do you put a number on that you were going to break before i was blabbing so i'm still going to break we're going to do it right now and then we'll be back with more tbtl in just a moment break we was hoping for some razzle dazzle

razzle dazzle that's right man razzle dazzle on your mark on your mark get set get set now ready

ready go everybody razzle dazzle hey let's thank some dazzling donors these folks are dazzling us with their donations of dough. It's how we are able to keep this thing going. I've already mentioned it, but yeah, we'll be in Denver for TBTL-a-thon 13, Let the Fun Begin, and we will be reminding you of the business model of this show repeatedly.

But we'll make it entertaining.

Absolutely. It'll be probably the only entertaining week of content that we make.

Quick aside here, nothing to do with Dazzling Donors, but I meant to ask you this earlier. Is the Slender Man in the room bothering you at all? Can you find the Slender Man? Okay, let's play a game called find us a don't look you're looking directly in the eye don't look directly in the eye this is a does kind of have an eye too this is the wall stain on my there's a stain from some something that dripped or maybe leeched i'm hoping dripped years and years ago on this

wood panel i think it looks like dripped now now that you say that yeah i've this is the first that i'm getting eyes also don't get eyes on the slender man i'm very andrew i have to say i

love the paneling in here it's uh and it serves a purpose too man it really helps make the place sound better it's amazing this is an ideal recording studio what do you think of that old like maritime lamp that's built out of the wall like interesting i don't know what the hell they were thinking that thing above your head was a sconce choice that thing above your head was like a fluorescent light which would give some much needed light to this room but it was overwhelming it was too much light so i disconnected it i do like that they picked

for the thing that's on the ceiling a very very low profile the lamp is or the the you know the light is yeah so they don't bump your head on it it's not taking up more room here because we are in the basement but anyway i'm loving this place and i'm also loving the fact that we get to thank david kreutz today from setagaya tokyo david says as we've made our way through year two of the pandemic tbtl has been a bright spot each day i went through a small bit of a rough patch patch This year oh sorry David And the TBTL community reached out to Support me in a way that was really Meaningful nice we hear that Over and over again thank you Tens for being So awesome to the other tens that's That's kind of a Huge part of the appeal of this show is really Just the listeners on the Facebook page being Nice to each other in addition Living overseas listening to Luke And Andrew's adventures especially in the Pacific Northwest makes me feel connected to my Hometown area hopefully someday Soon we'll return to more normal Life including TVTL events And I'll be able to return home for One to meet a few more tens in real life David Denver Denver Friday the 27th trivia Night it's quick hop from Tokyo I believe Things to do in Denver When you're 10 That's Is that the first time that any of us have uttered that

I think I threw it out as a possible name

I think we thought it was maybe too dark because It's the real one is things to do in Denver when you're dead. Yeah. I like things to do. That could be the unofficial name of the TBTL-a-thon. I love that. David says, until then, sayonara from Japan. And this is a lot. Okay, here we go. Takasu-jiru yama wa naku. Subete no hito ni kou un wo i no rimaso.

I assume that is Please get off my lawn and never return Is that what that translates to do you think?

I mean yes and it's such a shocking way for David To end his message That is establishing that he's Donating money to the program and that the show Has actually helped him in his real life the fact that He would say that to us in Japanese Hurts

It's a twist. Tough but fair, David. Tough but fair. Hey, thanks, man. Hope you're doing better. Sorry you went through a hard time, and thank you for being part of TBTL. We really appreciate you. Maestro? On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody rattle. I swear if listener Brian wants me to also read a long, for me difficult to pronounce, string of Japanese words. Well, actually, you know what? I'm in the groove. Yeah, that's true. I feel like I'm ready to go. Brian is in Seattle Washington and says I've been listening since the radio days And appreciate the entire TBTL world I've made a pilgrimage to the tattletale Brian I'm glad you did Before they completely Gutted the place And y'all talked about it on TBTL I was on a boat show Have participated in 10's card exchanges And played my TBTL noise machine in public Oh on purpose Wow I run a small archaic printing studio Called Print Zero Studios In the International District of Seattle Awesome I have to tell you Andrew That sounds like my dream I hear Archaic Printing Studio In the International District of Seattle That is up my alley That's where I want to go Shades of Walter Well you know what I had that thought It is Brian Depending on where Print Zero Studios is It would be It would be a heck of a coincidence But not outside the realm of possibility That Brian's studio is literally In the space that my dad's sign shop Used to be is that where that was that when we First moved to Seattle sign works Was in the international district Interesting yeah right there In I wonder if we called it Chinatown In those days or maybe we even then called it the International district but yeah It was right there in the ID And it was Just kind of you know sort of in Somewhat industrial space kind of a warehouse Thing I wonder How close Brian is To where my dad was doing his sign work stuff It looks like it's very close to And I think I always pronounce this incorrectly Yawajamaya It looks like it's very very close To there that grocery store Well that's around the corner from where Let's see here Now I'm going to it Actually you know what it's much closer to Is this Art space called Noodle Works That my first ex Nicola had a In fact right across the street from that Gas station that shell station Is this place I believe That was called Noodle Works which was Had at one point been a noodle factory Being in the ID and then all of the The huge warehouse space had been converted into Smaller areas that artists rent And would work on their art in there That was a real cool spot Noodle Works It's also interesting we know that the Google Maps of this Particular street was taken fairly recently because there's a a billboard for jubile in the morning i'm looking i'm looking at that too you're doing the street view huh yeah and then we've got those seahawks

which seahawks do you think those are on that 12s mural i see a 32 who would 32 be is that like that's a running back isn't that i know but like who's number was that that's um chris uh i think he's still a seahawk right i don't think so no i'm wondering i think Steve Largent is one of these And then you've got somebody carrying a 12s Flag this is a terrible Thank you for listener Brian I'm sorry Brian but Chris Carson is 32 oh yes oh I'm sorry you're totally right Did I say that before I didn't say Carson No but you were right I was thinking 32 as being like Ricky Waters or something and I don't know Who's carrying the Seahawks flag I can't quite read their number but anyway None of that is relevant to this conversation What we're trying to say is that Brian has The studio called Print Zero Studios In the ID I make hand printed works On paper from woodcuts, screen print Etchings and letterpress equipment From the early 1900s I appreciate the tens who have bought Prints from me Check out my art on Instagram and follow my meandering Daily photo walks of Seattle In my IG stories, Andrew Are you following Listener Brian yet? I am going to now I mean if these were prints of The current members Of our fantasy baseball team That and the meandering walks with photos That's everything you love in the world Yes let me look this up right now I promise I'm not boring says Brian I cannot make that promise His Instagram handle is At print zero studios On Instagram At sorry that's me copying That sound was me copying Brian's Insta handle Then I'm going to now go follow So I will check it out Thank you Brian for supporting the show We really and truly would not be here doing it from the inner sound sanctum of Andrew's new home without your support. Thank you. Hello and welcome to Top Story. We're getting to the top.

stories a little late but that's okay because I don't have a ton a ton to say on this I just wanted to update everyone on this story of the woman who fell in the toilet at the state park out on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington this was thanks to a listener Nikki who sent an email and said she'd never emailed before but she saw an update in Outside Magazine and of course I don't have do you have the article in front of you i do yes can you mention who wrote this version frederick dreyer i believe in outside magazine so uh we had a lewis uh cam lewis cam right the first one for vox that we

were all excited about and now this is kind of the follow-up can you remind me i want to circle back to lewis cam and something that he tweeted yesterday i started following him on twitter after we uh first talked about his initial story about this but it's not related to this so let's

do this story then i want to come back to cam for a second so uh the story was this a woman was we played the tape she called 9-1-1 from inside the the tank the pit the toilet of this toilet turlet of this turlet and uh was surprisingly uh sort of in surprisingly good spirits for having fallen into what is the grossest thing that probably any of us can imagine and uh we were Just trying to figure out how like she dropped her cell phone And she was trying to retrieve her cell phone we were trying to figure out How exactly did this happen Did she fall in head first feet first Well this outside magazine article that Listener Nikki sent in Updates a lot of the stuff so one thing I had mentioned Was there was a photograph of these firefighters From Brennan Standing outside of this Of this toilet and I don't know why I need to Over explain this but basically If you haven't been in one of these if you're in like a National park or camping area Or something where they don't have plumbing There will just be a toilet like a port-a-potty thing But it's over a giant Tank that goes into the ground so it doesn't Flush they have to come and manually Pump it out every once in a while This photo of these firefighters had them standing Kind of in front of this toilet after the whole thing Was done And the toilet had been pulled out The turtlet had been pulled out And I assumed wrongly Andrew That the firefighters when they came to Rescue this woman had pulled The toilet out to get to her No she had actually pulled the toilet Out herself yeah to try To get to her phone so the Order of events was she Drops her phone into This mass of human waste She then And I wouldn't even know you could do This it wouldn't and the Writer of this outside magazine article It's a well-written piece by the way Mentions one that he had always Had this fear every time he'd used One of these toilets and thought It was irrational until he saw this article But he mentioned that Like most of us this would just be His sign to get a new cell phone Yeah exactly But this woman was Extremely Committed to getting this phone back so she Dragged the toilet off of Its base which again I wouldn't have even

Known was possible First apparently she used her dog's leash To try to fish the phone out before removing The toilet First she used a dog leash to try to

because she mentions that in the call remember we were trying to figure out what was going on with she says leash and and we assumed that's what that meant but we didn't really understand how

it fit into the story so that's not working and then it says here she disassembled the structure surrounding the hole and then this is what you're getting at right she used the leash to support her

weight tried to make like a leaned way in to grab the phone and of course the leash either snapped or came undone I presume it just came untied from whatever I mean just the woman lost her balance and

careened through the open hole and down into the eight foot pit so headfirst and

the pit is eight feet this is one of those real damned if you do damned if you don't type stitches the more human waste that's in there Andrew the shorter the

fall is it's like it's almost like that joke you always tell about breaks over get back on your head exactly Grumpy Pardon the term

Like the Shout out to the many people Who've sent me that grumpy drop So I now have it as part of my road arsenal But you know what I mean Like in this bizarro situation Because falling eight feet head first Yeah Onto a solid surface Let's say they just cleaned it So it's just a bit of like And it's still not clean It's not clean But I mean the best case scenario In terms of non-grossness is It's just a It's six inches of sanitized water Of water with like ammonia in it or something That's the If you're going to fall into one of those You're hoping it's You're the first person to use it after they've just cleaned it But that's also the furthest Fall

And you're going to hit the most solid surface. Honestly, the safest, the part that's least endangering your physical body is it hasn't been pumped out in years. And the human waste is very close to where the toilet is so that you only fall a foot. I mean, the ideal situation is you don't go.

You do not leave the state of California and go to Washington as a swimmer. Never leave your house. ideally somebody who had a whole bunch of extra like goose feathers yes clean goose feathers had to ditch them somewhere because they brought too many on their hike they'd stolen them they needed to hide them after their great goose feather heist and so they had to their plan was to temporarily hide them where nobody would ever need to look at them first to make sure their

goose feathers weren't weren't fouled so to speak they went in and they cleaned it out they scrubbed

Yeah, they cleaned out the tank

Like what they call the turnaround at the Cherry Point Refinery in Bellingham I used to see these guys, when I used to go to the slow pitch in Bellingham in the day Sports bar, right? Sports bar slash, for me, critically, casino Okay And there would just be some real rough and tumble characters that would come in And what their job was to do what was called the turnaround So you have, and they would come in from all over the country These would be these, you know, short-time employees that would come in from Texas and Arizona and who knows where, and they would be hired to basically clean the entire inside of this oil refinery, Cherry Point, because, first of all, it was probably some kind of an environmental regulation, and it was also because they were then going to be processing or refining a bunch of, I don't know if it was different kind of oil. I don't know anything about the petroleum industry, but there would be these guys that would come and they'd just get paid like massive amounts of money because this work was so grimy and like you go. And then some of the guys would tell me that what you would do, this thing was so huge, this refinery had so many different weird rooms and chambers that some guys deal would be they'd come up, they'd get hired, and then they would spend the whole week just hiding in the refinery because nobody knew how many people were supposed to be there doing. So I forget what they would call it They had a term for it It was like sign and hide or something

So they were on the clock But their job was done So they were just like yeah that was kind of similar I mean very different situation But when I was a custodian for the student center At Kent State Like when I was brand new Like all my friends who worked there And helped me get the job So like there's not enough work to go around Like part of the job is You can't get caught But we have an understanding with the bosses That you need to just go make yourself scarce I hated that. I was like, no, give me something to clean. I do not want to be hiding and smoking cigarettes and worrying about getting hollered at.

These guys would come into the casino with just rolls of cash. And like, you might be surprised, Andrew, they were fans of alcohol. And it was just, it was rooting and tooting.

Anyway, point is. Kind of sounds great.

Which, I mean, you know. I've never been there. For a window of time, it was really, it was great up until it wasn't for me. But what you really want is somebody who pulled off the great goose feather heist, but also who wanted to, for some reason, clean with hot water and antibacterial soap. Wanted to do a turnaround on the inside of that tank.

Protect your investments. That's right. Those goose feathers. Yeah. So anyway, my point is that's the ideal situation. But if you can't have that, then, yeah, you want a lot of shit in there so you don't bonk your head. And toilet paper. And toilet paper. Can I read a little bit more from this? It says, so according to the incident report, she lost her balance and careened through, called rescue workers. They arrived 20 minutes later. So that's pretty good. I mean, 20 minutes. I mean, consider how remote it is. Fire crews washed her down and offered her a hazmat suit to wear, which she declined.

This is the part that I find mystifying. So as a person who has soiled themselves at a Seattle Mariners game and then had to try to deal with the aftermath using dry paper towels, I have some experience with this kind of stuff. And that wasn't even on the outside of my clothes, Andrew. You thought they felt bad on the inside. The call was coming from inside the pants. Oh, God. That's a pretty good joke. I have to be honest with you. Keep moving. i can't even imagine i mean her issues were external that was all on the outside and granted i mean it can hose you down but how clean are you really going to get why and now i understand that this i understand that this woman was feeling very embarrassed which was also report this is all in And by the way, the way that outside magazine got all this intel was because there was an incident report with the fire department so they they hosed her down and they offered her this you know tyvex suit to wear and she said no thank you you could not i mean presuming there's somewhere the idea here is she

would strip down out of her gross clothes and put on this hazmat suit just to get her home now and

presume that's how i read it and i mean presuming there's a private place where you can change into it yeah you couldn't have if if if you know whatever i was 13 year old luke burbank shitting his pants in the kingdom if somebody would have shown up with a clean tyvek suit now granted i would have had some explaining to the fulmers when you got back to i got back to mike's family and was like they oh you didn't get your this is a free tyvek suit you know you do you just you give them a salute you sit down you start eating your peanuts again this was um this was mike kingery salute to tyvek night you didn't get yours they gave these out to the first 15 000 fans um so this is ray quinones hazmat suit night so if i i i don't understand not availing yourself of that clean now here's the thing she had clean clothes probably of her own she's traveling so maybe that makes more sense she just wanted to get out of there it says that she was pretty

embarrassed according to one of the people understandably not who was on the scene but the chief of the fire department after we washed her down she just wanted to leave so maybe he was actually on the scene this fire fighter who's well let's be honest i bet the whole department was there not to not it sounds like just the two guys showed up right but was one of them the chief it looks like tim manley who's chief of the fire department but yeah i think that he was one of the people there because he says we hosed her down it's also brennan they probably have two

firefighters and i don't say that to be dismissive it's just not like she just wanted to get the f Out of there which makes sense I guess I just wouldn't want to get in my car No even with think about what you're doing permanently To your seats even if I'd been hosed Down I would I would want To get into some other clothing Before I got back into that vehicle I mean I would I would want that clothing gone I would even if I even though I had rescued It I would want that cell phone gone I mean That's the other thing She's using that cell phone I to this day I guess at this point you have to Because she she invested so heavily In the retrieval of that cell phone It's like on a pedestal in her house.

But here's the thing, too, about going after that phone that started all this mess. I think it's important to note that she was traveling and hiking in a place she's unfamiliar with. You know what I mean? Like, there is something like if you're just going for a jog, Luke, and something like this happens, but you're in your own neighborhood, you're like, I got to get home, order a new phone, go to the store, whatever. She's on an adventure already. she suddenly loses her phone down a crapper and then it's just like i mean listen i'm sure if she could take it all back she'd do things differently but it does add a more yeah it's like how do i i don't even know how to get to my hotel from here i need my phone to do that yeah you know what that's

a really good point i wonder how close she got to retrieving it with the leash because i assume she made a lasso yeah and then threw the leash down and was trying to kind of like snug the leash or kind of maneuver it under the phone which meant it was on top of a bunch of grossness but if she could have just you know like tighten it up and like pulled it back up that would have been an

extremely sweet pull that's the interview you know i mean we we heard that she had a lot of personality just in the 911 call um so you would think that maybe she'd be willing to talk but i mean it sounds like there's still a lot of deep deep embarrassment that goes along with this and she doesn't want to be you know the turlet person so because i mean you can tell like that like you said this article is pretty well written and decently sourced by talking to the people who were actually at the fire department also another thing um that is mentioned here again frederick dreyer wrote this um is that you also have to think about like the other things that people throw down their syringes glass bottles other things that make it actually dangerous and the

fumes and the fumes that part i hadn't thought about like depending on what the ventilation is yeah it could actually be dangerous to be in that tank because of all of the like methane and other sort of things that are part of the byproduct or the of the you know uh of of what goes on down there and like if it wasn't ventilated properly it could actually she could asphyxiate sure yeah don't smoke while you're down there either don't light a match yeah although don't light a match although honestly i would be tempted because when i worked at dick's drive-in and i didn't smoke cigarettes but the move was because everybody was older than me people would go use the restroom And there was one, you know, bathroom for the employees and it was just like a toilet in like a little room. You shut the door. And the move was everybody would smoke in the bathroom while they were, you know, doing their business because I never know because it covered the smell and it did so quite effectively. And I'd much rather smell cigarette smoke then. Yeah, that's a good point. I had a teacher in high school.

He was kind of full of bravado I remember not really liking him that much I want to say he taught something along the lines of social studies Although I don't know if the class was actually called that But he said that when he was a younger man Like maybe college age or something He was on a crew That would clean up after games At Cleveland Municipal Stadium I've told you this before Can you just imagine that Can you imagine going into 1978 Maybe early 80s Maybe mid 80s But you have a bunch of Cleveland Browns fans who have been using the toilets during the Browns game. And then you have to go in. And he didn't talk about cleaning them, but unclogging them. He said, I was part of a crew. We'd have to go through and unclog all the toilets. And he said, we just smoked giant cigars. We all just smoked giant cigars. And that's how you got through.

And wore those long beach masks that they would wear during the plague in Europe so that you never got too close to the person who had the thing.

Isn't that an amazing Cleveland in the 1980s story? Yes, that is incredible. Right now, you would have all kinds of protective gear, a face mask, clearly, whatever, but they're like, I just smoke a stogie. Wow. Okay, back to Lewis Cam, the real part of the story here.

Oh, but we've got to be fast, because I've got to go in two minutes. Oh, yeah, let's go in two minutes. Can you do Lewis Cam? No, it's not worth it.

Are you sure? It's not worth it. Do you want to check in in the tent, see what they have to say?

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man, it's not from a female.

Andrew, how about we do the Louis Cam thing here? We can get to the emails and emails tomorrow. We've got nothing but time tomorrow.

Here's the deal. It's so stupid. It's so stupid. But anyway, I'm following Louis Cam, former Seattle Times reporter, now writing for, where did that? Vox. Was it Vox where that appeared? Oh, Axios. Axios, exactly. And he's the one who broke this story about the woman falling down the toilet. It was his debut for Axios. And so while we were talking about it on the show the other day, I looked up his Twitter handle and I was like, oh, I don't follow him. I should follow him. So now I'm following him. And this is a spoiler for yesterday's Wordle. It shouldn't really matter. But if anybody's playing any of those archive sites, just know that I'm about to give you the answer here. But yesterday's Wordle, I believe, or maybe it was two days ago, the answer was story. I don't know if you're still playing, but it was in NXIVM. It wasn't. It was S-T-O-R-Y, right? I thought that was my tweet of the week.

Was it? I made a spoof on Twitter. I said, I can't believe today's Wordle was NXIVM. I don't get NXIVM. I don't get the joke. That's the name of that weird cult that had the guy that was making everyone play volleyball at night. Yeah, okay, right, right. Is it topical again? No, it's just a weird, it would be a weird word for Wordle because it's like N-V-X-I-M. It's actually five letters, so it would technically fit. It would be extremely hard to get

I thought maybe it was back in the news or something And I missed the relevance Well the good news is you have another Go at your tweet of the week

Actually now I thought of a better version of that tweet Which is My My wordle starting word is NXIVM

Anyway so A couple of days ago or maybe yesterday The answer to the wordle was story S-T-O-R-Y And Lewis Cam tweeted What? Because I said so He tweeted out, finally it happened My starter word was The actual answer for Wordle today And so he gave his results You know, there it was Just he got it in one And I had to go back to my phone I'm like, wasn't it like story or something? I look up story, I'm like I guess I'm happy for Lewis Cam I think I gave it a like But like, that's a terrible starting word Because it's too consonant heavy? It's got a Y in it. I mean, it's not very often. Every now and then, a Wordle answer does have a Y in it, but it's not super common. It's just got one real vowel. Sorry, Y, but it's only got one real vowel with an O. Wow, we're Y-shaming here. Getting the S, T, and the R, those are usable letters. But, man, you're really banking on something having a Y and an O in it. I just feel like it works for Cam. You know what? He's living moss. You know what it is? It's a cam-do attitude that he's got and it paid off for him. I just thought of that. Show title? Am I turning into Sean Dittori? Like, I sort of feel like the longer I do this show, I just rely on him more.

You mean the person that I listen to the most in my life? Because he tracks every single Mariner's-related liner. And commercial. He sounds so good. He totally does. I've been meaning to reach out to him. Yeah, we should let him know. But if you miss our friend, Japan's number one mixer, Sean Dottori, you should just listen to any of the Mariners play by play, because every single break, it's Sean telling you about the next cool thing that's happening at the electric factory. Or, yeah, and he's also just doing a lot of ads and he has a lot of range. Sounds great.

He's not doing voices, but you can tell he's approaching with different sort of energy depending on what he's advertising. It's great. But anyway, you've got to get out of here. I'll play a voicemail for you tomorrow that I think you're going to enjoy. Oh, wait. Tomorrow's Blur's Day, isn't it?

Yeah. Well, we've also got a Friday show we're going to record tomorrow. So we have all the content, all of the, I was going to say content whole, but that sounds gross. I fell into a content hole once. Luckily, it was filled with feathers. I fell into a ring of fire one time, and it was not pleasant. All right. Thanks for listening, everyone. We are going to be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you from right here in the inner sanctum of sound at the offices of Walsh, Walsh and Dormat. This was fun, Andrew. I love this room. This is honestly like this is a very cool place to be doing the show.

Good, because you're going to be spending about two and a half hours in here later tonight. I think that's right.

That's another thing to mark your calendar for some special broadcast project we're working on. Anyway, thanks for listening. We'll see you tomorrow. Until then, have a great Wednesday, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all. I'd be on the bathroom pee-peeing, and he'd be standing right there pee-peeing. It was hilarious that we were both pee-peeing at the same time. It's fun. Power out.