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Gentlemen to bed, for we leave at first light. Tomorrow we battle. And we may lose our lives. Very good, very good, very impressive. We always leave at daybreak, don't we? We never leave at, um, you know, 9.30. Gentlemen to bed, for we leave at 9.30. Ish. Ish. Gentlemen to bed, for we leave at 8.30 for 9. And we rise at just after day, 7.30, so just after daybreak. Gentlemen, to bed. For a daybreak, I will...

Breakfast. We will breakfast. Yes. Sire, sire. It is a continental breakfast. It will only take 20 minutes max.

TBTL. Well, well, here we are. I want to congratulate you for being on time.

Love it or hate it, it appears to be another irreversible step along mankind's journey toward God only knows what.

If you had a favorite saying, what would it be?

Life's a party, rock your body. What's that drop that's like?

You're doing a good job, sweetie. What you do is so important.

Sweetie, have a good show. What you do is so important.

All right, hello, good morning. Welcome, everyone, to a Monday edition of TVTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Here we go again. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Are you sure? That's what they said on Ask Chiefs. coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon. So happy to be back. Bring it back home, baby. Bring it back home. Even though the weather is a little bit lousy here still. After, I don't know, seven days of travel and multiple cities and lots of things, it feels good to be back home. Sorry, my voice is a little scratchy. I was screaming my head off at the Mariners game yesterday.

Hey, Lloyd, do some delivery for the truck to the airport.

Took my mom to the Mariners game to celebrate Mother's Day yesterday, and it was great. A comeback win in the bottom of the ninth. Well, they tied it in the ninth and then won it in the tenth. So that was a great early start to my week. Here we are at episode 3679 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. It's going to be a great start to our TBTL week. Lawmakers in Canada have passed a law

Don't think it's okay to just roll in here At 100 kilometers per hour Like you're Joel Otto with the Calgary Flames

They've tucked in an obscure Bill related to A budget issue The government of Canada Has basically Made it the case that if a Canadian astronaut Commits a crime in space

Otters cannot travel through the vacuum of space

They will be held accountable under Canadian law which I guess sort of raises the issue or points out that heretofore it's been just absolute lawlessness up there not the space station the international space station has its own set of rules but there are certain parts of the journey now that more people are going into space and let's be honest it's only a matter of time before one of these billionaire types who goes up in space as a tourist commits a crime so they're trying to get in front of that we will talk about that And then, speaking of policy changes, I wrote a tweet on Friday.

Hi, everyone. Welcome to my Twitter.

That's having some real-world impact at the Seattle-Tacoma International Airport. So we'll talk about that as well. And some emails and V-mails, and this young man, a handsome young stranger, the longest-running Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's here to party with the best of them.

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now from the Sweet Cream District, Seattle, Washington. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. Well, I don't know if this is going to be a good start on a Monday. I was going to say, I don't know if this is going to be good news or bad news for you, but you are now tasked with something because you see my beloved Seattle Mariners baseball team representing this great city in the Pacific Northwest. they forgot how to win baseball games for a while they sure did lost lost lost lost lost lost then luke and his mom go to a baseball game and oh will you look at that mariners remember how to win again so i think i was thinking about this yesterday listening to the end of the game knowing you were there as i'm driving about town thinking well the answer is luke has to go to Every Mariners game Not Notice I didn't say Home game With my mom

I'll say What's up Dope

Yeah They were talking about it I believe Scott Service After the game Attributed a lot of it To the presence Of Susie Burbank I know

Oh, actually, we talked about this a little bit on the show on Friday. Sunday, of course, was not just your birthday, but Mother's Day as well. And it was free clear bag night for mom at the ballpark. Did Susie get a free clear bag? I thought of that. I was going to text you, and I'm like, there's no way you and your mom got to the game early enough to get the free bag, right?

First of all, how dare you even say that to me? Well, we actually were there. We were there in plenty of time. and we got in this it was a big turnout like that was as many people as I've seen at a Mariners game of course it being Mother's Day that was probably a big part of it that was as many people as I've seen at a Mariners game in a long time such that the line to get into the stadium was like halfway down Edgar Martinez way so we get in that line my mom and I and we get almost to the front of it where a person who's working for the Mariners goes that purse is too my mom just had like her pocketbook as she would call it in a philadelphian yeah which was just like not even a purse it was like literally like a something smaller than a purse but bigger than a bread box no it was the person said that's too big you can't take that into the stadium so we had to walk back to the car and the irony if you could have just gotten

through the gates with it she could have transferred it all to the clear bag that she

would have got well exactly and also i guess what i would say is if you're gonna have a person who's checking like who's who's i mean the person was trying to provide a service which was you know before you get to the like metal detector etc like hey that's not going to work why don't you put them towards the back of the line yeah yep why don't you put them towards the very at the initial point that people who might have a bag that's not going to work get in the line so then they don't wait in the entire line and then get to listen to the crazy guy on the loudspeaker talking about jesus and turn or burn yeah you got to listen to that guy for a good 20 minutes um through both trips through the line but yeah give him a script about bag size that would kind of solve a couple of problems at once that would be jesus said i have uh you know i have come to teach you about clear bags and um how we can all stay safer at uh major league

baseball games so and the lord saith you cannot enter with a bag bigger than a bread box it is

easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a person to get into t-mobile field with a bag that is even vaguely opaque um so the thing is andrew though you'll be shocked to know we even after our even after we were sent back to the car had to hide my mom's pocketbook come back get back in the line we still got through in time for her to get her clear bag sponsored by emerald queen casino and she was chuffed nice i am so glad it could have gone either way with my mom she could have either been like oh this is a little cheesy but she was like

ah cool she was into it nice i'm so glad to hear that also i really had it wrong i thought for sure when i made the the my little snipe about you guys being late which is not even really a snipe it's You you guys enjoy the game however you want. I assume you left after the sixth inning, but but you got to beat traffic. But, you know, everybody get to the game whenever you want. I just figured your mom might be like you that you're not necessarily super get there early kind of people.

Well, this is far more detailed than anyone cares about. But part of why we were there at a reasonable time was because my mom was taking the ferry over from where my folks live. on the other side of the of Puget Sound and it was convenient because my mom and dad go to church in Bremerton and the church they go to is like across the street from the ferry terminal so I mean I know you don't believe in a god Andrew but it worked out that my parents went to church and then my mom just went from church to the ferry and then that particular ferry that she was on got her to Seattle an hour before the game, meaning I got there an hour before the game to pick her up. If it would have been different timing, if they still lived in Seattle, we would have gotten there by the fourth inning. It was because of this external set of circumstances, i.e. the ferry schedule, that we actually were able to pull this off and get her her clear purse.

Well, I am glad that you guys were able to be there and for such an exciting game. The Mariners did win for the first time in a long time in pretty fun fashion, doing it in extra innings. And I there's something that's been kind of rattling around my head, Luke, that I guess I'll bring up here because I'm kind of just putting I'm just kind of putting words to it right now for the first time, I realize. But I'm sort of realize I have not been to a Mariners game yet. Right. And, you know, I love going to my Mariners games. My favorite part sometimes is before the game even begins, like getting there super early wandering. around eating shame dogs in various shame corners of the shame stadium and i have a you have a chamber i have a shame stadium i carry around a lot um no i i do love i love that whole experience but i haven't even been tempted to go so far this year just because the weather and i know that it has a retractable roof famously um but the weather's just been sort of crummy and rainy and cold and it just doesn't feel like baseball season to me yet and you know maybe this well i mean this this road trip they were on was terrible but also that was a road trip so that wasn't i wasn't going to go to those games anyway but my point is this you and i are gearing up for the tv telethon which is coming up here in a couple of weeks right and this is kind of our um this is our world series you might say this is our most important week so uh we have things are going well stanley cup this is as they say in baseball this is our stanley cup as wayne gretzky famously said um this is as

a short stop rule would say this is our stanley krupp i know i was gonna let that slide i'm gonna

clean it up and post um you know but what i've realized is as we as i'm doing a bunch of work and you're doing a bunch of work and i'm getting anxious about this this upcoming trip which is going to be great but i'm just an anxious person um i realize i've been putting everything changing on when we get back from denver when this project is done for some reason i just think that when we get back from denver the weather is going to be super nice the mariners are going to be winning again i'm going to be going to mariners games all the time i'm going to be fun and sociable well okay give me a couple of summers on that one um but i just i realized fun and sociable on

saturday night we had a great time on saturday yeah i saw that dad band with you and they that's right exceeded my expectations trout mouth won you over they started as trout mouth but then

they changed their name i think it must be i guess they are this is my um this is genevieve's colleagues band a dad band them and some friends get together they play music a lot of people on

that stage and they weren't all dads either i dude i am so goddamn old i hear dad band and i'm

picturing people who are at least my age or probably more likely like 10 years older than me i walk in i could be some of those guys's dad i think no it's a band of people who have dads yeah which was kind of real new mother's dad band honestly yeah um but uh i was like oh these children dad band right but i guess they were playing at the eagles a lot yeah we talked about

this on on the show i think on friday but like and i was saying if you tell me what the folks are wearing i can tell you what they're playing that completely did not hold when i walked into that eagles on saturday night and saw first of all nobody was dressed the way i expected a quote quote dad band to be dressed and i was extremely psyched about the about the various song choices that the band played including some black crows which i then went out with our friend rodent i heard the first notes of remedy by the black rose and i went out there with rodent and then i was like singing along so loudly from the back of the room because it's possible that i knew the song slightly better than the band only because i was obsessed with that album when it came out And then I was like, and Rodan was like, you should just go up there. And I was like, I'm not going to go up there. He was like, yeah, no, you shouldn't just go up there. And I was like, okay, yeah, right. That's the right call. It was a very fun night at the Eagles.

It really was. Yeah, I didn't absorb as much of the band as I could have. I ended up, my hearing is so bad that if I was up in the room with the band playing, I couldn't have a conversation, which I guess that's the point when a band is playing. So I was kind of, I stayed more in the bar area. And the night definitely became kind of a blur for me, certainly, as as the night went on. I did my I woke up on Sunday and my brain did that thing where it just started like scanning for things to regret. And like I found and I was actually I feel like I was actually pretty well behaved. I mean, I guess I'm always well behaved. You absolutely were. But like I was like my brain was kind of like, find the thing you said, find the thing you said. And I was just kind of like, stop it. You were lovely. You're absolutely fine. But anyway, it really was a fun kind of a – from what I recall, it was a good night.

No, it was – I think a nice time was had by – also, again, I'm not huge on birthday stuff, but it was kind of fun because we're just sitting around talking. Then all of a sudden, it's my birthday technically because it's like 12.01 and somebody's bringing over a round of drinks and people are patting me on the back. it was kind of fun to like have that little moment of so again something that i'm just generally like i'm very ambivalent about you know particularly age 46 like i think i might have even said this on the show i think it should just be like you turn 45 and then a few years later or whatever you just check back in when you're 50 i just don't think 46 is such a completely uninteresting number to turn really no it's like i'm i guess i'm just i'm definitely speeding towards 50 now which is fine 50 feels like okay that's a i mean that's not midlife anymore unless you know something changes i don't think

I don't think I'm living to be 100, but still, 50 feels like a pretty big one, 40 feels like a big one, but 46 is just like, please, nobody take any time out of your schedule to note this.

Well, what if we take 24 seconds out of our schedule to note it?

Me, me, me, me, me, happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday, dear luke happy birthday to you happy birthday luke hope you have a wonderful day

i'll see you around that was uh listener jesse in cincinnati who wanted to leave oh hey jesse thank you

it was nice i've got you know my mom and dad checking in that's the classic in my family that is the classic uh birthday celebration uh got one from my little bro as well so a very uh a very fun day was had by all including me um and what you're saying though is that you you kind of had this feeling that when we get back from tb chill on 13 let the fun begin that's when andrew's fun begins yeah there was something about you saying

right there like what time you got to the ballpark and then it reminded me like yeah yes that's right my tradition of getting there just said it like i guess they opened the gates exactly two hours before first pitch right and i can't tell you last year how many times i was in line with the crowd waiting for those doors to open like that's just my bliss but it also seems weird that well i've had many opportunities to do that so far this spring and i haven't done it and i haven't even been tempted to do it that's the thing and i just think it's like it's sort of tied up in maybe the work that we're doing now and even if i'm not spending every waking moment working on this thing i just it's like it reminds me of being in college sort of where you have like exams coming up or some big project and even if you're not working on the project at all times it sort of feels like i don't know it's a doing something else seems like a distraction or i can't explain it and i just realized i just realized that i'm just like okay we're just gonna get we're gonna do this denver trip that's gonna be fun but then we come back then i'm gonna come back to summer in seattle and right you know high fives at the ballpark and like i don't know if it's really gonna be a switch like that but i realize i'm putting a lot on that i i know that feeling you

I think that's the way that you are categorizing, I guess, maybe categorizing is the wrong word, compartmentalizing or dealing with what is some anxiety around TBTL-a-thon 13, let the fun begin, or in the case of Andrew, let the stress continue.

I don't want to put a cloud over the week. I actually do think the week is going to be a lot of fun, but it's like getting to that first day and having all those question marks of technology and will this work. We're going to be streaming stuff live. I just want to see it in action.

Right. Right. But I just know what you mean. I do this a lot. Like, you know, I just mentioned that I'm back home after seven days on the road, mostly work and then a weekend that was fun because I was like I went out on Saturday with my daughter and we had a really fun like, you know, hang out and like I saw my mom on Sunday. Like it was a really nice weekend, but it was still a weekend in which I was not home yet. Yeah. And so here I am finally, and I'm very kind of relieved. But I guess I was going to say a lot of times what I'll do when I'm looking down sort of the barrel of like a couple weeks of stressful travel, like we're doing Livewire this week in Portland. So this week it kind of, even though I'm back home, I'm, you know, I have a little bit of a, I just have something that's also kind of living in my head, which is this event on Thursday night. Speaking of which, John Mualem is going to be there, the fabulous writer, John Mualem. So please come down to the Alberta Rose Theater. But I will do the thing where I just go, I look at everything that has me stressed out, and then I go, what's the first point after that? Or when is that going to be done? When is the moment when I can just be sitting somewhere, probably having a glass of wine, feeling my stress release a little bit? And I bet that that's a little bit tied into what you're doing where you're just kind of like, okay, let's just get this done. Let's, you know, and again, I, you and I are both like always a little anxious leading up to these TBTL fun weeks. And then it always ends up being amazing. And we're always really grateful at the end that it worked. So it's a positive, it's very much a positive, but there's a certain amount of stress associated with it. So that Saturday when you're, when you start driving back to Seattle and I get on a plane like a normal person that will be that will be a day i think where you and i are both like huh okay i mean presuming that we actually are able to raise enough money to keep doing this for the job or they might just take my rental car away uh in the middle of the week exactly or we just no longer have this job and which which you know would create a different kind of emotional experience

for us maybe spending a little less time well maybe i'll be working at the ballpark if that's the case that's something i think about a lot because i'm always imagining and i'm not joking This isn't a bit like I'm always everybody I run into who's doing a job. I kind of think, could I do this job? Is this something I could do either maybe even just like part time if I.

just had to make ends meet because i'm always just waiting for that moment where somebody's like yes you have to get a job you gotta get a real job now wake up andrew wake up you have to get a real job now and so whenever i'm buying hot dogs from folks at the ballpark or or like seeing security people at the ballpark i don't think i'm good one thing i know for sure i never want to be any kind of security personnel even in the easiest scenario you can imagine that is your job was to stand

almost at the point where you get in the stadium and then tell people that their purse is too big

what about that job i don't want to do anything that involves security or yelling like honestly sometimes i'm at a coffee shop i'm thinking like i'm watching them make these fancy coffees i'm like could i be trained to do that could my 45 year old calcified brain actually learn how to do that and if i do what happens when i need to yell order up because that's the part that i don't think i could do sam had a coffee's ready and then you're yelling i don't want to sell anything

buy anything or process anything as a career uh i had a tsa guy at ctac who this is slightly complicated but it was the particular entry point where you wait in this kind of long line potentially but then you can after you get through the initial like they check your id you could go left or right and left is into the security area and right is down a long hall but then into a different part of the like you know metal detectors and stuff and the guy who checked me through said i would go down that hall it's probably faster so as i'm going down the hall this guy is going past me a tsa dude and he's like singing and he's like talking and this is just in the hallway i end up like half a city block from this dude waiting and i can hear him down the hallway from all the way where he is doing that kind of yeah and he's being funny about it but that just like yelling spiel about what goes in the thing and doesn't and i just thought oh my god if i worked with this person yeah and i'm sure that he's a totally nice guy and there's probably some there are ways in which that is helpful to people going through the lines i'll tell you this really quickly i was um you know i was in so many places last week that i can't remember which airport i was in but it was an airport where i went through the tsa pre-check might have been st louis louis but they just gave me a card which means so some airports don't have a full-on tsa pre-check line meaning they don't have the thing where you can just go through and leave your shoes on and leave your computer in your bag and whatever they don't have a dedicated line for that but they'll send you through the regular line where everyone else is taking off their shoes but if you have the little pre-check deal they give you like a laminated card which is just like special status so they give me the laminated card i go through security and then they stop and they're like what's going on with your bag and i was like i don't know i'm pre-check they you know i'm they said that this is they're like here pre-check only means you get to leave your shoes on but you still have to take your laptop out oh only airport in america i've ever been where that's the particular way it breaks down and these folks were acting like it was crazy that i didn't know that and i didn't say right yeah i just took the thing out and it was fine and we you know they just re-ran it through but i was like this is the only place i've ever been where the rule is that so we're going to give you this little card which confers tsa pre-check status but only for 50 of what tsa pre-check means and yet to these tsa folks it was like how would you not know that instinctively i was like yeah and that's the rules are so all over the place i'm like that

too not not necessarily with this airport example but that you and i are very similar in our thin skinnedness um and it's like when you're doing a routine that you know really well you hate it when somebody comes over and and then when something is messed up in the system or it's different and then somebody comes over and says like you have to do it this way you're like i i guess the best example for me is like uh at the grocery store right like this is such a stupid example but like if uh you put your own shoes well i take them off certainly yeah and then i hold my hands over my head for about 10 seconds it's weird um and i stand in front of the self-checkout kiosk no but when you like let's say that you walk up to the kiosk right and you set your bags down on it and it's like hey wait are you using your own bags or whatever like i know at this one store i go to all the time what the routine is you got to like kind of tell it you're putting the bags down first if you're using two bags you say three bags because the bags are a little heavy like i know this goddamn scale right and then on the occasion that something goes haywire with it and then some kid comes over and is like kind of sulky and doesn't want to be working and then it's kind of like tells you how it works you can't do it you gotta put this button before you put it down you want to be like then i'm always like i did push it and then i realized like i'm being like super defensive like it doesn't matter like but it's just like I don't like

people telling me how things work when i know how things work i'll tell you how things work

that's that's the constant struggle for me in the in the airport is when a tsa person and again you know i find them generally be professional and and courteous and helpful but sometimes if they seem a little bit put off or like i'm doing it wrong or even when they're yelling at me i kind of want to say i am sure that i go through more tsa checkpoints than you do now you work at one so i respect that you you see this all day long but as far as lived experience of doing this thing i promise you i'm doing it more than you are right and like and and the the person at the tsa who takes it upon themselves to be the yeller i don't think that that's a specific job i don't think that they're like when you're in tsa training they go okay we need to designate one person who yells the rules out loud it's just somebody kind of i think it's just one of those things that somebody naturally takes on that role and again if i worked with that person if i was the other person just sitting there and i had to listen to that same joke hundreds of times although i don't know people donate to this show and they've heard our jokes hundreds of times so they've heard my joke a hundred times maybe it's entertaining maybe i don't know um all right maybe we should take a quick break here because we do have lots to talk about speaking of airports andrew something happened on friday it was had a longer tail than i expected uh so i want to talk about that when we come back here on tvtl hope it's a platypus tail we was hoping for some razzle dazzle

razzle dazzle that's right man razzle dazzle on your mark on your mark get set get set now ready

ready go everybody razzle dazzle everybody hey let's thank some dazzling donors these folks are donating a dazzling amount of dough, how we can do this job. Amy Lidke is in Minneapolis, Minnesota, home of the, I believe, first place Minnesota Twins, as our friend Stu will not stop pointing out.

It's just, he's insufferable, Luke. Insufferable.

It is really, it's, yeah, some people can suffer him. I'm not one of them. I consider it to be insufferable. But I consider Amy Lidke, who's been donating to the show for a long time and been an active part of TBTL land, I consider her to be, I wouldn't say sufferable, but even more than that, lovable and appreciated. Amy says, as the self-proclaimed TBTL drummer of Pandrumic fame, this was, I believe, during the TBTL talent show that we did last year.

Indeed, indeed.

Amy was, I was going to say a way of describing people playing the drums, but then when I said it in my head, it sounded way dirtier than I meant it to be. So I won't say pounding the skins. But anyway, Amy was playing the drums in the TBTL talent show and is quite talented at that. Amy says, I love self-promotion and I'm disappointed. My husband and I don't have anything to promote right now. we are frequently involved in community theater and even have a literal garage band but we don't have any projects at the moment uh i wanted us to come up with a song about tbtl but my husband chad wasn't enthusiastic about that idea and also said a music video wouldn't fit on this form true so with nothing super dazzling to promote i will still promote my blog amylou's view which is amylidke dot wordpress.com By the way, Lidke is L-U-E-D-T-K-E Do you realize, Andrew, that Amy's last name has all of the necessary components to spell my first name?

I do know that it's the first word I always play in Wordle.

If you dropped the E-D-T, you'd have Luke, Andrew. Anyway, amylidke.wordpress.com Use promo code TBTL, I believe It's pretty innocuous And sporadically entertaining More than we can say for this program, by the way I rarely write about anything political And sometimes I even write about my TBTL She just said TBTL But I wanted to make it more personal to Amy My husband does not believe in self-promotion So to honor his sensibilities I will also say something Less self-serving We love TBTL and the TBTL community Thanks for giving us something we can share together That makes us laugh helps keep us up on pop culture and that helps us feel connected to someone and something rather really special and do all you can to support dogs and cats who need love and shelter. Absolutely. Amy, thank you very much for sponsoring the show. Thanks to Chad as well. It was fun to see them at the Minnesota State Fair, I believe, Andrew, which I don't know what the travel budget is these days.

With our bosses at APM But I'm telling you what If we could get back to Minnesota this summer For something Maybe the little state fairage That would be pretty fun

I made a little comment about that

With somebody on the engineering side of things He was very enthusiastic about it Now I don't think he holds our purse strings As it were But maybe making some inroads Just kind of testing the waters there a little bit

All I ask is Can they give us more of our voice can they have a mic for the audience at the state fair broadcast it's all i need because last time we were there and we were wearing those headsets yeah and then we were just like it was we're gonna talk about space later on the show it was like we were in space

or something yeah and you don't even mean like the way we look but just the sensation of having these yes these tight headphones that block all of the real sound out of your ears and then like your microphone always being right in front of your face you you and i are definitely people who like to move away from the mic every now and then maybe maybe clear our throats a little bit maybe say something sotto voce which is a word like i like to say or maybe two words um so yeah having that thing just like always right there seemed weirdly oppressive but if we can get that figured

out then maybe we can go back to the state fair maybe we'll see amy and chad there as well amy thanks again for supporting the show we really appreciate you maestro on your mark on your mark

get set get set now ready ready go everybody rattles down let's also say a hearty thank you

to mckenzie williams in cheyenne wyoming mckenzie says hi andrew and luke i don't have a big message this year just a thanks for you and the tens community my wife and i don't participate much except she loves the card exchanges nice if if by some chance you're new to the show or are just not familiar that we have these amazing like holiday card exchanges i think generally around christmas time that are just so heartwarming and if you're somebody who would like to have uh you know to send and also get a card um check out the tbtl card exchange i don't actually know where is the

best place for people to find out about that andrew um i guess you can email me or just keep No, I'm not trying to make work for you.

Don't email Andrew until after the thong.

Let him live. I think there's one that I think Cheryl organizes around Valentine's Day. So we just missed that one. And then around the holidays, I believe Melly in New York handles that one. And so once it gets to be around the holotimes, you can keep an ear out. I like calling it the holotimes.

That's way more fun. No, nobody bother Andrew. No, no, that's fine. Nobody bother Andrew about anything until the thong is over, please. Anyway, so Mackenzie's wife loves the card exchange. Mackenzie also wonders, if there are any other Southeast Wyoming tens, we don't know about them. Yeah, I don't know, Mackenzie.

Wow, doth protest too much.

But we enjoy being a quiet part of the online community. Thanks to everyone for making it a nice refuge in a difficult time. Thank you, Mackenzie.

If anybody knows anything about some Wyomingtons who went missing in the southeastern corner of the state, we don't know anything about them at all.

I just think, I mean, Wyoming is obviously a beautiful state, but it's when I think of the least populous or populated state, when I think of a place where there's much more land than there are people living in the state, Wyoming sort of comes right to mind. My guess would be Mackenzie and his wife are, if not the only Wyoming 10s, certainly the only Southeast Wyoming 10s.

Yeah, I think we can probably bet on that. Now, do we want to talk about the Electoral College or just move on to top stories?

No, we don't. Absolutely not. We just want to say Mackenzie and your wife, please, you're voting for four. So please do the right thing. We know you've already done the right thing by sponsoring TBTL. That's right. You're you're good people. And we need since you have an extreme, you have a much more valuable vote in Wyoming than the rest of us who are living in states that maybe have, you know, more folks there. Vote on behalf of all the listeners in New York and Los Angeles and Seattle and places like that. So thank you, Mackenzie, for supporting the show. We wouldn't be here without you. Hello and welcome to Top Story. So I was at SeaTac Airport on Friday, Andrew, heading out towards St. Louis, and I was looking for some sort of snack to have before I got on the airplane, and I went up to this little restaurant. I guess it's technically called Le Grand Comptoir, and I don't know what that actually, the big Comptoir, whatever that is. and they had a menu posted outside of this. like it was like a little wine shop restaurant coffee thing whatever and i was just looking at the list of i wanted some soup for some reason i ended up getting some french onion soup at the

beachers you are now conditioned i was i was gonna say did you get your soup because i think it started with your you know your alaska lounge privileges they often have soup there now you're locked into soup in the same way people don't drink um ginger ale a lot but they get on a plane and they immediately want ginger ale. Like, you are, where's the soup, man?

I, yeah, I really like having a little bowl of soup at the airport for some bizarro reason. So that's why I was looking at the starters at this The Big Comp Trois, and I noticed that they have a clam chowder that they offer, and they also have a seafood bisque. Now, I would probably not have either of those because I don't really eat seafood anymore, but what I noted was that they described it as pikes, place clam chowder and pike's place seafood bisque i saw that and i saw that tweet it's luke's ah yes oh yeah and so i took a picture of it i just thought it was kind of funny because if you're a seattle person you know that it's very common that people will describe pike place market as pike's place market pike place market i think is probably named for the street pike street that it sort of intersects with um it's not like a guy named you know john pike or something founded it and which it's a very small thing and completely understandable that somebody who's not from seattle just wouldn't know that small thing but it's one of those seattle things that we i still consider myself sort of a you know historically a seattleite it's very grating to us if someone calls it pike's place market and so i just did this little tweet i said an absolute crime being committed here at sea tech airport and then i got on my plane and took off and didn't really think of it much until i landed and it was clear that it had touched something off i mean at this point it's been liked a 1200 times or something and also just has lots of comments it really touched a nerve with seattleites who were like this is nails on a chalkboard and then people not from seattle trying to understand why this is being retweeted so much people trying to speculate is it grammatical is it is it the lack of an apostrophe is it like you know why why are people responding so strongly to this like people are going i'm from new jersey why is this a thing like it's a lot going on in the comments but what's what i think really kicked it off was somebody who's a port commissioner in seattle and i don't have um i don't have their name right in front of me but a oh here i actually found it his name is ryan culkins port of seattle commissioner he tweeted back at me basically like oh man we'll look into this and try to get this fixed because of course sea tech airport falls under the sort of uh umbrella of the port of seattle uh and ryan i have to say was uh handled this very well he didn't you know he didn't uh roast the fine people at uh les big comptoir because i mean really what happened was this this thing got that's my guess is that that is a company that is maybe that's a restaurant that's in a number of airports and somebody who does the sort of copywriting for them presumably not in seattle wrote that up

and just because the people double checking stuff just weren't in seattle it didn't occur to them that that was not how we say it so you know no shade on the people that are at that place certainly the people working there had nothing to do with it so this guy ryan caulkin said i don't have the tweet right in front of me but he basically just said like uh we'll try to get this fixed because that can be you know a little nails on the chalkboard he said something like i think it was a copy error a copywriting error or whatever but then just to be very clear i mean is this person

just joking because i mean i mean the port authority is in charge of the airport but not private businesses and what they put on their menu you can name anything on your menu that you want

sure i don't think he was saying like we're going to crack down on this i think he was saying we're going to go ahead and try to um see if we can just let the people at corporate know that this makes them look a little bit disconnected from the greater Seattle area. If you're naming a dish on your menu for Pike Place Market, but you're calling it Pike's Place, you're outing yourself as probably not being super locally based. So that guy tweeting about it started to put it on more and more people's radar, which I thought was just kind of funny. And then eventually, a day or two later, the literal airport was tweeting at me saying oh my gosh again i'm paraphrasing something like this is we're going to get this fixed don't you worry so i actually got i think that there i mean at some point a conversation is going to unfold with whoever runs c-tech airport with whoever is in charge of this menu to just let them know that like it's Pike Place and then I'm wondering if they'll reprint it and I'm wondering if the next time I'm at SeaTac or actually let's get some maybe we can hive mind this to our listeners if you're passing through SeaTac in the next three or four months and you're in the sea concourse let me know if they've changed it it would be kind of hilarious if that stupid tweet actually led to them reprinting this menu thing with the correct description of Pike Place I have so much to say

this topic um first of all i also just don't want to pass up on the fact last time i was at ctac i also noticed and i'm sure this has been around forever and you've noticed it but they have like a this is like so out of mr show with bob and dave like they created like a little bougie fake capitol hill eatery in the airport like you just want to talk about like the kind of um i don't even know what the right word is do you know what i'm talking about this like little capitol hill

in the airport it's kind of like i don't think i've been to that you might i think you were on a different airline so i don't know if i went to that concourse maybe i'm gonna look it up here

but there's a little area where i mean it's just like a food mart or whatever right but it's like

well they do have a sub pop store so they're trying to really like when you're in that airport they want it to feel like an extension of seattle right but so sub pop is a company and they're like

we want to we want a presence in in the airport so they do that and they could they create one there and you know coffee shops can do the same thing if you can get in blah blah blah blah but like there's something about there is a fake brick little building that is like kind of trendy and you go in and it's like a little marketplace and there i haven't been in there i've just passed it and you can go in there and it's kind of like and it's like the thing is i mean listen i don't give a shit what people do in the airport and it's all commerce but it's just so funny how oh man i have so much tangled up in this i have so much tangled up in this i don't even know how to begin to talk about this but like you have the Seattle is dying folks right like not to go right there but the people who are just like nobody can live in Seattle anymore it's all crime and it's all due to the leftists who live here and I go to I don't think we ever talked about this on the show because I like to kind of keep my parents out of this kind of stuff but like it was astounding to me I met up with a whole bunch of family when I was visiting my birthplace of Cleveland Ohio lately and I realize most of them probably are watching fox news other things too but fox news primarily i think a lot of them i'm talking about extended family here and when i met them or was saying hello to them like whenever seattle came up their faces always looked really concerned for me like how bad is it there how bad is it because we have people like jason and tebby who's on the conservative talk station here uh who goes on fox news and talks to people like my older family members and tell them that seattle is a terrible place and that the leftists have taken over and it's violent and it's awful and you can't live there in the same time i'm trying it was terrifying

andrew when i was downtown at the weston this weekend people when i was shooting around oh my god when i was walking by the amazon spheres and while i had access to hundreds of different bars

and restaurants it was like a war zone just terrifying while i'm paying 14 for a cocktail like awful and it was like kind of hard for me to explain to my family that like they are concerned about my well-being in Seattle at the same time I could barely afford a house here it's just like I just have so much I can have wrapped up in this in what these conservatives have turned into this national narrative of Seattle being a liberal a hellhole caused by liberal policies and part of that is like where was you know if people remember the chop right like the the semi-autonomous zone created in the wake of the george floyd protests here in seattle and you know that's kind of something that people will cling to when they think about just how chaotic and law lawless it is here in seattle well where was that it was in capitol hill but then you go to the airport where you have just these like so many rich people flying in and out of seattle because of the tech scene here and because this is such a moneyed area now and they've created this little capital capitol hill look we've created a little fake capitol hill where you can pretend you're in a little urban environment and you're buying your little urban coffee and your little urban bagels and there is something about that that pisses me off so bad and i really clearly i can't quite explain it but it's kind of like everybody's just sort of i don't know why it just seems playing urbanism while we also are like don't go to capitol hill there are leftists there and they

will kill you well okay but in fairness the airport's not saying that like it would be to me it would be more it would be more hypocritical if fox news had a fake capitol hill coffee shop in their building right because the airport i mean you know not to push back but it's like ctac is just doing what they can do to try to you know sell more more coffee or more whatever and you know but i guess your point is just that it feels like these two ideas are sort of dissonant of let's let's let's commercialize capitol hill while there's a whole other group people maybe even who are traveling through that airport who have believed a lie

about what's really going on in seattle sort of to me it just sort of seems like you can have people coming through this airport who um are you know they're they're from somewhere else and they just hear about all these things about the chop and like how how scary it is to be in this area of the chop again the semi-autonomous zone and that was on capitol hill yet they can be coming through this area and just be like oh look at this nice little urban it feels like disney to you yeah it's Now, the other thing that I wanted to mention, and this is not pointed directly at you, just more about us and how we went on this show a while back. Actually, before you even tweeted this out, I was following some guy from Cleveland because he was a Browns fan. I've now unfollowed him, not out of any personal animus. I just don't want Brown stuff populating in my Twitter feed a lot. It's like it makes me angry. But there was this fellow who's just another Browns fan, I think, in Cleveland. And he happened to be in Seattle a couple of weeks ago and was just taking a photo of himself and maybe his family. I can't remember a selfie or something. And he labeled it that he's in Pike's Place Market. And I obviously didn't say anything, but I got to say it for a split second. There was an urge just to be like, hey, man, locals call it Pike Place Market. And I was like, what are you doing? Who gives a shit? Like, you don't even know this guy. Like, he's got 25 followers or something. And then I ended up unfollowing him because I'm like, just also, I don't care about brown stuff anymore. But it occurred to me that I had this instinct to do that, a quick instinct that eventually passed. But it was Luke. You're a Seattleite, my guy. It was three days or less after you and I had just gone on the whole thing about Mackinac Island and how people are like, why are you getting mad that we called it Mackinac? Like, why are you so invested in it? Like, it's a local thing that you guys know and outsiders don't. Why does it matter? Who cares? We probably went on for like 20 minutes about that, yet I still had the urge to correct the Pike's Place thing. And you kind of did the same exact thing. So does it make you understand a little bit more why people want to jump on us when we say Mackinac?

No, those are totally different things. Those are totally different things. One is a word that literally is spelled in a way that doesn't look like it should be Mackinac. It looks like it should be Mackinac. The other is just the actual name of a thing. so i just think to me they seem like they seem like different issues like wake anybody up from a dead sleep and who's not from michigan and show them the word mackinac and ask them how you would say that and they're all going to say mackinac that seems like a very understandable thing if you're le grand comptoir which by the way when you go when you i just typed it that means um the big counter by the way i've learned makes sense if if you look up le grand comptoir airport here's what comes up jfk ctac doha orlando so this is a massive it would appear to be a fairly massive company that i bet you if you went to the leg the big counter in doha cutter i bet you they have the whatever the chowder is there named after something in doha like i'm sure that this is kind of standard for them and so i guess my point is i would never correct someone like you didn't correct that person on twitter about pike's place i would never do that either if i heard lebitard or somebody say pike's place i would never email into them but me taking and i don't feel by the way under any kind of criticism from you uh over this but the fact that this is just a giant company that's trying to seem local but it's just really kind of like stubbed their toe that me tweeting that didn't feel like it was as personal or like let's say that the server would have come over and said oh would you like the pikes place chowder i also wouldn't even tweet that because that's just like a person who maybe just didn't know that that's not what we're calling it there was something about this menu though and it being associated with a company not a person that felt to me like it was more kind of mockable i'm not even saying yeah and by the way i don't i

don't think you're necessarily a hypocrite and i don't think that there's anything wrong with this tweet either i just think maybe the mackinaw thing got us on that conversation but the conversation kind of became more broadly just about like people feeling pride in knowing local stuff i mean it's the same as knowing that it's pronounced concord new hampshire instead of concord now i know that gets back into the pronunciation thing which is the same as mackinaw mackinac and so it's not a direct thing but just this idea that we do have an instinct to like kind of i see somebody else in the comments here also now they're bringing back um bartels which was something that i was kind of medium wrong about it sort of sounds like because i always thought that like that's it seems like in seattle specifically one of the tricks is don't put an s on something and then catch outsiders putting an s on it right like right like nordstrom perfect example nordstrom versus nordstrom's and i thought that bartel and i got into this on the show and turns out there was all kinds of evidence.

It's like, I think it used to be Bartel drugs and I wouldn't say Bartels. It looks like they've now embraced Bartels. Like I've seen actual signs that listeners have posted in like for sure. They'll sometimes just put Bartels in a window. But there are these things that I think every every local community does. And it's kind of a way of showing like, hey, I'm in the know. And we do get weirdly possessive about it.

Yes. And another one that was popping up in the comments on this that's kind of funny from the greater Seattle area is that. oh and i've heard i heard this growing up old timey seattle folks used to call boeing boeings that was a totally normal thing to just say boeing because it was i don't know was his name bill boeing whoever boeing was you know in the early ish days it was sort of like if you knew someone named uh you know john johnson and they had started a company making airplanes you might say johnson's because it was like yeah well you know john johnson it's johnson's place it's the place they're making the airplanes there's an old there's an old school well there's a couple things there's an old-timey washington state person who says washington and who would call it boeing's they'd probably be camaro kevs yeah yes aunt betty birkshaw from winlock washington home of the world's largest egg and i don't say this to be like you know regional or whatever but the the The chances are that in 1975, if you were passing through Windlock and you asked about what's going on with the airplane folks up in Seattle, it would be called Boeings. And someone might call it Washington. Two things that are, again, very specific and not really accurate, but a regional thing. Kind of like a Utica thing, like steamed hams.

One thing that I know for sure is Harry Chronic Jr. was not happy with this menu site. That's somebody who's following you. twitter handle i know harry chronic jr says how is this possible i'm just scrolling through your

mentions here that's good isn't it that's really good um yeah so uh that i now that i realize that the big counter has locations as far flung as doha i'm actually wondering if they'll get this straightened out or not this might just be a very low priority for them if there's like tons and tons of these things around the world like i think i thought maybe it was like they got like two of them or something but it's also less surprising to me that this particular little thing was kind of off because who knows where the company is based but like yeah if you're like putting the menu together you probably they probably googled like what's a what's a big landmark in seattle and then like okay what's a food thing that on our menu that we could associate the other thing that people were seemed i didn't read all the comments but the ones that i saw another thing that people seemed or maybe the replies or whatever it's called is the idea that everything on the menu is offered as to go you know because the airport and that a lot of the stuff on the menu is seafood and like someone was saying the real crime is giving someone like a to go order of fish that they could then get on the airplane yes good point somebody else responded that that their mother i think literally got fish and chips from that place to go and then ate it

on the flight to wherever no you're right that is the problem i see that somebody else is tweeting here that this picked up a lot of uh traction on reddit apparently i don't know if it was seattle or whatever but people are tweeting that at you as well um i'll tell you what though when i go to the airport i only eat at one restaurant one restaurant only and that is the space noodle

you know we my um my first ex and her friend chara my my first ex nick and her friend chara had an idea for a thai food restaurant in seattle in in kind of you know near the the space noodle called the spice noodle or near the space needle they were going to call it the spice noodle oh there you go great name for a thai restaurant absolutely absolutely it also sounds like you're australian you get a good end of the spice noodle you know that i want to sort of like rise up

lights you know that i want to create a um uh fusion restaurant right japanese polish and call

what sushkis i've been talking about this for years i'm not i don't how do i how is there one thing i don't know about you at this point i didn't know that that's a great idea because

if you think about the way a roll is like like a sushi roll if you're going for one of those things you know it's kind of it's cut into like kind of coins right like little little little round things little discs i guess um you could certainly wrap something in kielbasa and then cut it that way as well right you could have like sausages that are like maybe i don't know i don't know exactly how it's going to work um but uh i'm excited about sushkis i've been planning this

for years i would go there they're opening the sushkis at the sea tech airport pretty soon

yes they probably are here i go once again with the email every week i hope that it's from a female no man it's not from a female

All right, we'll talk Canadian space law tomorrow because that's kind of an interesting story if you think about it. More and more. And the fact that there was allegedly a space crime that's already been committed, Andrew.

I know, well, but that was actually, yeah, there were allegations. Yes, exactly.

We talked about that alleged space crime, I believe, back when it happened.

Yeah, that was 2019, I think, and I didn't know how that turned out. This article told us. So anyway, stay tuned for that tomorrow. In the meantime, I have some voicemails to play. I don't know how many I can get through, But let's just at least start with this one This keeps us in the airport Hey friendos, how are you? Let me just say, this is responding to Your story, Luke, at the airport a few days ago Where you kind of Were kind of rushing around And then you used your status To get to the front of the line Of a plane that was boarding And then you realized you're at the wrong gate After kind of, not cutting But you felt uncomfortable Kind of jumping to the front of the line

Yeah, it was embarrassing I used my special status to get to the very front of the line, which was awkward, and then went so far as to scan my ticket on my phone and then have an error message, and then I assumed that they were just doing it wrong, and then the lady very nicely explained to me that this was literally not even my flight.

Well, Dan feels your pain.

Hey, friendos. How are you? This is Dan calling from Miami Beach. I just finished hearing Luke's story about being in the wrong group, and I wanted to share an anecdote. Years ago, this was like in this strange period after 9-11, but before the TSA really ramped up their stuff. um i went to the airport and to get on a flight and so i was in college and even more absent-minded than i am now and i get to the airport and probably not really paying attention whatever and then i go to my gate and i see that they've already called like final boarding and i and i just panic so here i am a panic i'm like oh my god i gotta get on the flight you know the sight times like oh hurry hurry you know and I can tell like I'm embarrassed because I'm the last guy on the flight I'm like oh my god how did I mess this up so bad so I go to my seat and somebody's in my seat and I was like well no it wasn't a very full flight so I kind of just like waited at the flight attendant and said okay how about I sit over here and she's like yeah sure so I you know I get in my feet, get comfortable, then they get on the intercom, welcome to the flight to Buffalo, New York. So I was not going to Buffalo, New York. I had gotten on completely the wrong flight and had the inconvenience, the people at the gate and the flight attendant, and I just caught up and was like, excuse me, I'm on the wrong flight. So much to say, I feel your pain, Luke.

thanks for all you do friendos bye wow all i can say is wow that's amazing i mean that could never happen anymore because there's so much scanning yeah but i i remember that era in fact they used to i mean the big joke which sort of persists now although again now it's just a holdover is you know uh welcome to you know the alaska airlines flight to cincinnati if you're not going to cincinnati you're on the wrong plane like they'll kind of make that joke sometimes uh before you take off but again it's it could never happen in this day and age but you go back five ten years ago when they weren't scanning everything i'm sure that happened fairly

frequently yeah i can imagine that panic i feel like i've had that dream before or like maybe in my dream it's like the wrong class or classroom or something but yeah i'm trying to think i i don't

think i've ever even back in the paper ticket era i don't think i ever managed to physically get on the wrong plane but i did once miss a flight that i was standing waiting for i think in nebraska somewhere i was flying i was ultimately going to um norman oklahoma to watch the huskies play the oklahoma sooners with my buddy cotter and i had a connecting flight i think somewhere in nebraska from like dc down to oklahoma and i was on the phone with i think maybe my boss at npr at the time and i was staring at the like you know the gate where we were going to soon be getting on the second flight and i went around the corner because i don't like talking on my cell phone in front of people i feel like it's rude so i was trying to just spare everybody in the waiting area and when i came back the flight had departed and they had said and i was like i was looking at the ticket and i said um the ticket says the flight doesn't leave until let's just say 2 30 and they were like yeah we just boarded early i was like what i was like that's that's against the rules yeah you said we had an agreement if i got

back here by two or whatever i should be able to get on the flight they had just decided because the plane was there the crew was there they thought all the passengers were there they were just like yeah let's just let's get it angers me if you were now let me put it this way if i was one of the people that got on the plane i'd be stoked yeah i guess i would love to take off early if possible uh just get where you're going earlier but i was so that's not quite the same thing but it just seems like it's in the neighborhood of of the the weird vagaries of flight that i think have mostly been ironed out at this point yeah hopefully i mean that leaving

early thing is still i almost got caught up in that one time too and i was like i know that you guys can say that like we board you know 40 minutes early or whatever it is and that's fine but like this idea of like you know if somebody is not on that flight but you want to take off early and it makes all your jobs easier i understand that and i actually think that the folks who are running those you know the people who are like on the ground or in this case in the sky actually you know running the operations of a flight from the pilots to the flight attendants to everybody like i actually have a i feel like i have a lot of compassion for them i think they have a really tough job that has a lot of different components a lot of which we don't even see and also just dealing with just customers in that state is um it's a pretty thankless job i think in a lot of ways but this idea of well we got most people on board who paid four hundred dollars for a ticket let's just take off early because it'll get me to my destination earlier and maybe it'll keep us from delays down the line it's like the industry is just so messed up i just don't know any other i don't know you buy a ticket to a to a baseball game they just say sorry we decided to start uh about two hours early but you can join us for the sixth inning right what no i bought a ticket yeah and there's been a lot because of the

all of the kind of um staffing shortages and other things that are going on in the airline industry um there have been a lot of things i've seen online from people who and this is actually i know i sound like a shill for alaska airlines i just generally have always loved that airline i know they've been going through some stuff i can't turn the radio without hearing our friend will mcquillen being interviewed or quoted on something because the pilots union is in a dispute with the uh with the company about uh more about better uh pay and pay and things like that but anyway i don't think this was so much with alaska i think it was more like with some of the real discount carriers like i saw so many people on tiktok talking about like frontier and southwest and jet blue doing a thing where it's like they wake up in the morning and their flight is supposed to be at 1 30 and they show up at the airport at noon or whatever or 11 30 and then the airline tells them the flight has already left that they moved it up by three hours and they get an auto generated email when they're at the airport that their flight has been moved up to a time that is before the time when they're standing in other words they get to the airport two hours early and then get an email that says your flight left at 9 a.m astounding like just and then they're in that crazy line trying to rebook and then you know the the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing and then the airline is like sorry you missed your flight we sent you an email and they're like yeah but the email got to us after the flight had left which was four hours before it was supposed to and like just going into this we overuse this but this sort of kafka-esque world of the fact that they have the airplanes and we don't that's what it always comes down to they have the airplanes we don't have the airplanes and we apparently don't have enough

purchasing power or we don't have enough power as consumers of their product to like you just think other industries are somewhat regulated by the demands and needs of the people who are paying for the service right like you couldn't do that to use the example of the baseball game again you couldn't do that there would be outrage and people would stop buying baseball tickets or if you um buy a box of cereal like you're you're buying your cheerios and sometimes the box is half full sometimes the box is three quarters full sometimes it's just empty And inside is just a note that says, sorry, we had to eat your cereal. And that's just the way it is. Like those those brands would suffer. Right. But like the airline industry just is not it's not beholden to its customers the same way other products and services are. And I think a lot of that probably has to do with the government hold, you know, propping them up during bad times so much. I remember. Well, never mind. I don't have to get into that. But I just I was going to say, who's the the national conservative radio host that you and I used to kind of share space with at Cairo Radio? I'm blanking on his name. Very famous. You know him. Terry. No, no. He's been there for Medved. Sorry, I just was blanking on his name. Michael Medved. But before I really knew who Michael Medved was or the time I found out about him was before I worked at Cairo Radio. I was working for KUOW, the public radio station, and I had just moved to town and one of my little jobs there was to go to play.

Like Town Hall Seattle or even like the little basement room of Town Hall Seattle and record author readings and talks. Right. And I remember Medved was talking about the free market and like how important is and how the free market is how things keep, you know, the free market is what keeps things running on time and everything. and he used the airline industry as an example of that versus i feel like some sort of infrastructure of roads and he said like that's why people like to fly and that's why our roads are in terrible condition i'm like what do you mean like you cannot use i'm sorry that i'm going on this tangent but it's just like one of those things i've been fighting in my head for like 20 years like this one comment this one comment that i heard him say i'm just like i was just in the back of the room recording and just being like but that doesn't make any sense you cannot use the airlines as an example of the free market because it is not the free market it is so it is so bolstered by the government because well for a whole bunch of reasons yeah that's a really that's

funny um that yeah that would not be the example i would pick either i mean they they're like the auto industry they're bailed out when they run into trouble because we need we know we we realize that we need functioning airlines so i mean there's so many things about the way the airline industry exists that really make it a terrible example of the free market yeah yeah um but uh i will say this and again i know i know i just sound like i'm doing a running commercial for the folks at alaska airlines and again i'm not i hope that they get things settled with the pilots union i hope that they pay everybody a fair wage because i my understanding is that they did turn a profit recently you know the pandemic wasn't great for any businesses but they're back to turning a profit and it only seems reasonable that that should be shared with the people who make it possible that being said they did all of my flights andrew happened last week remember i was saying it'll be a miracle now one of a couple of them were like delayed a bit oh actually this was when i was flying from st louis back to seattle on saturday there was a medical emergency on the flight oh that's scary and i don't i don't think it was anything extreme but there was a couple that had gotten on the plane i'd seen them getting on the flight and they were a bit older particularly the the man seemed like he was in somewhat uh maybe not the greatest of health and uh i guess what happened was some i don't know because because they were some rows behind me but it was like they said we're not going to push back because we had a medical emergency they kind of helped them get off the flight then i saw somebody from like a cleaning crew going back so i wondered if maybe yeah there was an incident with maybe vomiting or something um because the guy had like all this like bleach and like you know spray bottles of whatever yeah and this was a thing though the flight attendant when we closed up and this was not a huge delay anyway the flight attendant when we were all the door was shut and we were moving on said um the that couple particularly the wife just wanted to apologize to everyone on the plane that we delayed you because um they've been through that too and they know that it's no fun so the poor couple that's dealing with whatever i think the guy was dealing with the wife was like can you also just tell everyone on the plane that we feel bad that's

really i know actually when you were describing that i was even thinking like uh even them just walking off the plane that's just like you feel so embarrassed and so like you know you shouldn't

but you do right yeah totally i was just like oh my gosh i wanted to give both of them a hug yeah yeah it's like the it was like a really i felt bad for them and also just you get on the plane because you're trying to go to seattle or somewhere else after seattle and now you're not on the plane And now you have to, like, along with not feeling particularly well, you've also got to now figure out what's the next plan. Like, whatever was not going great in that particular day for me, it paled in comparison to what the hassle is that these two folks are going to be going through.

Yeah, you know, I was boarding whatever the last flight I was. Oh, I guess I was coming back from Cleveland. I was boarding one of those flights. And there was a, I guess, a family behind me. And in the family, like, I think the person directly behind me was a teenage girl. And she was saying some I could tell that she was a little bit she said something to somebody in her in her party about, like, not handling this well or something. And I and I couldn't hear too much of the conversation. But the flight attendant who was greeting us as we boarded the plane said something like, oh, is everything already under the weather? And she's like, no, I just hate flying. And like and, you know, I have some anxiety around flying. And I sometimes like, you know, the takeoffs and landings, like I kind of gripped the my my armrest kind of like I'm not that I'm not the coolest customer, but I'm also I'm not gripped with that kind of fear. And for this young woman, you know, I often think of it as just like, I don't know. I don't know. I guess it kind of surprised me that this young woman felt that way. I sort of felt like, oh, I don't know why I'm only kind of realizing this now that I found it maybe especially surprising. Just thinking like, I don't know, maybe younger, maybe I'm carrying around the anxiety of it.

older generation where flying is quite as if you're from a young if you're from a younger generation you have lived through a time where there were you know airplane disasters are incredibly rare yeah and and again you just it's somehow even though they've been around for probably almost a hundred years now airplanes still feel kind of like new technology to me so if you're a young person who's grown up with a cell phone in your hands somehow in my mind you're also more comfortable flying yeah because you're just you're down with all things in the

modern era yeah i guess that and you know i didn't even have that actual thought until right now that i found it kind of especially surprising because of that and i think you are putting words to that that vague notion i had but i i think of her sometimes i'm just like well i hope that flight went okay there was never any disturbance or anything on the flight that you know that i know of so i hope that i hope that kid made it through okay all right um we should go ahead

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