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guess what day it is guess what day it is it's friday friday gotta get down on friday everybody's looking forward to the weekend there are two types of people in this world

those who like neil diamond and those who don't my ex-wife loves him you know something that was pretty funny you should think about being a comedian my friend is a blackjack dealer and on his forearm he has a tattoo of an ace and a jack you see i'm a blackjack player on my forearm i'm gonna get a tattoo of a 10 and a 2 and then maybe later a king you know someone might

describe a situation that's unpleasant or confining as being like a prison is what they were referring to.

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Friday edition of TBTL.

I'll say, what's up, dog?

The show that just might be too beautiful to live. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host.

Hello, everyone.

Coming to you once again from just a few steps away from Millennium Park and the shores of Lake Michigan, the Blackstone Hotel in beautiful Chicago, Illinois, where last night we christened the Studebaker Theater, the first ever episode of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from the new digs. I'm so excited about this show. Although, I only found out when I got to the theater that last night was technically the soft launch. Last night was the beta test, if you will. I assume next week is the hard launch, and that's when they're going to have their A-listers. I have to say, I was mildly flattered, I was a little chuffed even, I was like, okay, old LB's still got it, they're bringing me out for the debut of the new theater, and then I found out that basically they brought me out to make sure the microphones worked. so the next week when they have presumably the Paula Poundstones and the Moracas of their world on they know the microphones are operational but it was still very fun last night and it's a beautiful warm day here in Chicago

I feel warm and I'm levitating

got a chance to get out there on old Lake Michigan I don't know if they're I mean I had a great time in Denver exploring Denver a couple weeks ago for the TVTL-a-thon by way of jogging And of course, it's a beautiful place as well. But I don't know if there is any major like large urban center that has, I mean, Central Park in New York comes to mind. But jogging along Lake Michigan on a kind of late spring day when it's not roastingly hot yet in Chicago, that might be almost as good as it gets from a running standpoint. So this is going to be definitely as good as it gets from the standpoint of episodes that are numbered 3,703 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. Because that's where we've arrived. Thanks to my jog and also the fact that they give you free water at this hotel. I've noticed this becoming a thing, by the way. And maybe I've just been privileged enough to stay in hotels that are, you know, fairly pretty nice, I guess you could say. But since the pandemic came around, I feel like they're saying, would you like some water? And if you say yes, as I always do, they hand you a couple of bottles of water. Now, I'm old school. I'm from the day where they're just handing me money. Free bottled water. I will never get over the experience of getting free bottled water handed to me. And I'm just crushing. This is bottle number, I think, four that I've consumed this morning. That's what it sounds like when I drink water, by the way, for all of you ASMR heads. Or even if you're just into SMR. But on the subject of water, are we all as dehydrated as we have been told by the wellness industry that we are? The answer, sadly, is not yes. Apparently, we don't need as much water as we're being told to drink. At least according to the New York Times. At least according to a New York Times article from one year ago that we failed to get to on yesterday's program. So we'll talk about that today, plus music for your weekend. And this guy, he's the longest running co-bro of the show.

Oh, my God. The Aminus.

Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships, their grace, and their splendor. He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke. Happy Mina Kaim's Day. I don't know if you caught any of this. To all who celebrate. She will be throwing out the first ceremonial pitch at today's Mariners game. I don't think I've ever been in the first.

Ceremonial first pitch. What did I say? You said the first ceremonial pitch, which I'm wondering, do they have multiples now? Because I wouldn't be surprised. You know, they never miss a chance to monetize stuff at these baseball games. And I could see a world in which there are now multiple first pitches. One is the, like, Geico first pitch, and then the second one is the, you know, steal, steal your dad's heart this Father's Day ceremonial first pitch. But she is throwing out the first pitch of the marriage. Is this the game you're going to?

No, I'm going tomorrow. I have no idea who's throwing out the first pitch tomorrow. Probably, actually, anybody I can even think of as a spoof, it just actually sounds appealing to me. Actually, though, speaking of sponsoring things, I've been pondering something lately. sponsoring like little things in a baseball game one thing that i've mentioned to you on the show before is i always think it's interesting that a company will often sponsor the pitching change which i think is a terrible idea i would never want to sponsor the pitching change because if it's your own team's pitching change it means something needs to change like right quite literally

never a happy moment yeah this the pitching coach or the skipper has to make a trip to the mound it doesn't mean they're not going out there to say hell of a job right i mean sometimes i mean it

could you know on the rare occasion your pitcher went really deep and you know it did a great job but it's time to get them out of there fine but i always think that's interesting it's like oh hey couldn't make it out of the third inning and uh this pitching change brought to you by bob's bank it's a good bank here's what i was gonna ask you is there any reason it's just a guy

He's got money He's got your money Yeah You go over to his house He's got a mattress He just puts it He tries to keep track Of whose money is Whose But sometimes He gets a little confused Sometimes you make some money Sometimes you lose some money With the Bob's Bank system I am wondering

If there's any benefit In sponsoring Having specifically An insurance company Sponsor insurance runs Now it's not a regular thing That's the thing You're really It can't be a very expensive Sponsorship Right. Because you have I mean, it's a pretty, you know, it's a very specific condition in which you're tacking on extra runs or, as they say, insurance runs. But like there have been many times this season where not many, because I would imply that we've been in the lead. But there have been several times this season where I've thought we could really use some insurance runs here. And then I thought, why is Geico not sponsoring this insurance run brought to you by Geico and a man who is half motorcycle, half man?

that's a really good idea and the way that you could make it more reliable would just be when the ems could use an insurance run sure so it doesn't even have to be like if they don't score one you just say like here we go into the top of the ninth and the mariners could really use an insurance run and you could use uh an improvement in your insurance brought to you by geico like you could you know you could kind of work around it but you're right that's a really really smart tie-in you know you should be at my friend crmc how's that going marketing it's good everybody's leaving today i felt a little wistful when i went in to get my coffee this morning i felt like i really knew everyone a lot of people didn't have their lanyards on because they were like i'm no longer trying to get the you know person who handles the marketing or whatever the loyalty program for wendy's i'm no longer trying to impress them with my particular product i sell So I'm de-lanyarded and I'm rolling my bag right out of this Hilton.

You know, I'll bet you there was great swag at that event. Unless we say swag. I can never remember. We don't have to open up that can of worms again. But I wonder if they gave away cans of worms. But I bet you they have such good stuff to give away at that conference.

That'd be another good baseball tie-in. This can of corn brought to you by Bob's Corn. Bob's Corn. Bob also has a corn company. Did you not have been following Bob's career? here it's one it's one door down from bob's bank it's bob's corn that is i'm sure i've told the story a thousand times on the show and have mansplained it to anyone who will listen when i'm at the baseball game but i just think that's is it an idiom is it a what do you call it yeah one of the just great kind of uh funny old things about baseball is when it's an easily caught fly ball or pop-up you call it a can of corn because the legend goes and i think this legend is probably apocryphal but that you know in the in the 50s or whatever you'd have a sort of a housewife type person coming to a store and uh there might be a stacked a high a shelf with corn in the can stacked on it and then the grocer might knock it off the shelf with their broom and the uh stereotypical housewife person would catch it in their skirt that would be a can of corn a very catchable fly ball i feel like every as i say it out loud i realize every part of that

story is a lie but it's still i still find it charming you think it's a lie you don't think

there's any truth to that well first of all hell on the skirt it would be absolutely

absolute hell on the skirt you'd probably go through two skirts a week just because of think about the the force of that corn also just grab one of the lower cans you got the grocer he's getting a broom this is a very inefficient way to buy your to purchase your canned corn right like yeah give me one second i just this might not pay off i think this is going to be hawk harrelson i'm not sure i think i have a can of corn call here wasn't that what does he say are you what When Hawk Harrelson had that complete meltdown, you've got to be freaking me. You've got to be bleeping me. Are you freaking me? Doesn't he say bleeping me? Hold on. I have that tape here, too. Hold on. Let me look here. It's Friday. This is our day, Andrew. Our day to enjoy our song. That's right. So play all the Hawk Harrelson. Oh, I have some Hudson Hawk we can play, too, if you're good. But let's start with this.

What are you doing?

Oh, this is the whole thing. I didn't even know I had this. So this is long. This is not what I was going to play for you. I think I have a can of corn call. Which is also a Bad Lieutenant movie, I think Bad Lieutenant 3, Can of Corn Call Am I right or wrong about that? Why didn't I bring my bell to Chicago? Okay, so here's the Hawk Harrelson meltdown from my library I don't know the circumstances here, unless you do, Luke I vaguely remember, somebody was tossed out of a game I believe for throwing at a batter And I think Hawk Harrelson, I am guessing he thought That the pitcher should not have been thrown out

oh what are you doing he threw him out of the ball game you gotta be vaping me what in the hell are you doing what are you doing Wagner wow crawling up you gotta be kidding me that is so bad that is

absolutely brutal that's incredible that is unbelievable they have got to start making guys be accountable that is totally absurd they had got to do something about this i'll tell you they got some guys in this league they have no business umpiring wow they have no business umpiring because they don't know what the game of baseball is about wouldn't that be a hilarious

that would be an amazing movie a guy who literally doesn't know what the game of baseball is how is Not an Adam Sandler movie. The umpire. Right? Right? Like, whoo, is this a baseball? That's my Adam Sandler. Let's listen to this. A baseball bonks Adam Sandler in the head, and he becomes a small child trapped in his body who doesn't know baseball, but who is an umpire. That would not be a can of corn. Wait.

Into the bleachers for one by catch. That is 2-0.

So I'm confused. This is a home run, but this is called...

You just saw one of the big reasons why Canna is in the lineup and playing out of position, and that is because he's got some big power.

Sorry, go with me.

I love it. This is the best stuff we've done in weeks. And we told you this park would play a lot livelier in the heat. Here's an example of it.

When you put a finish on it like he did right there Being a strong right-handed hitter You know what ball's got a chance to get out of here Say it

You have 10 seconds to say it, Hawk He put a great finish on that swing I don't understand it That is labeled can of corn Hawk falls can of corn Maybe it happened at the beginning when I was talking But whatever, that did not pay off I just wished to gosh I was home So I had my Castellanos tape Because that would have been a perfect time to tag that with a little Castellanos. So you're going to the game tomorrow night. That sounds fun. Yeah, I don't know who's throwing out the first pitch, though. I guess when it's not somebody really famous, they just don't get that kind of coverage. Don't you think there should be a schedule? Like, I was looking. Like, I went online this morning. I'm like, okay, I know it's Mina tonight, which is weird. Like, I'm actually legit jealous. Like, I actually was like, damn, I would love to be there to root her on because you know I will be there for the first pitch. Maybe tomorrow night's Katie Nolan. Maybe tomorrow. Yeah, exactly. Maybe it's Cisco Morris. What about that? I'd be there for that. Ooh, la, la. Oh, la, la. Big, beautiful purple balls over the plate. Yeah, man. Beautiful purple balls. Now, the question will be, does Mina obey the sort of instruction of the mariners and stand basically at the edge of the mound, of the pitcher's mound, and just kind of toss it to the catcher? Or will she pull what nobody calls a Luke Burbank and actually go up on the rubber check the runner at first take their sweet sweet time and then throw a ball at about 11 feet over the plate i heard because i follow her on social media and of course she's very good at social media and so i've been hearing her and she used to be part of that lebitard universe too which is i think maybe how she became so prominent on my radar anyway so i i feel like i was seeing a lot of her talking about doing a lot of

of practicing like throwing a bunch of practice sessions and stuff so it sounds like she's you know taking it very seriously she's also can be a very goofy person as well so i could see this either just going like almost boringly well like she's just going to throw it like right over the plate and it's going to be great and everybody's going to cheer it would actually be better it'd be much better long tail content luke as i talk about in my uh panel on um media um if she did something if she just like 50 cented it like just like threw it or gary delabate it oh is that

flow high oh my gosh on the stern show they will never ever ever let the producer gary delabate live down the fact that he just had a truly awful first pitch i believe he was thrown it out for the mets and i mean that show obviously i'm a regular listener to uh to stern but boy when they figure out something that is a pain point for one of the people on the show they do not let it go and like it's this it turns into sometimes like an hour-long conversation about not following your dreams or why would you think that was a good idea to about every six months they spend an hour just chastising flow flow high about his first pitch at least mine mine wasn't great but i guess the good news is it it was in the air the entire way and it was as far as the it was actually over the plate but it was just the catcher at the time had who was a tall guy he was like six maybe six two six four ben how i now have forgotten his name but um uh sort of brief mariners catcher ben something or other he almost had to jump like i think the pitch was about eight feet because what happened was all of these people were in my ear saying you're you you're going to basically spike it like i guess they were saying that the number one problem that people have is the the plate is further than they think from the rubber or from wherever it is they're standing and so they they think they're throwing it far enough but it actually bounces and you don't want to bounce it up to the plate they were saying everyone bounces it up to the plate so i thought well there's one thing i'm not going to do i am not going to bounce this thing up yeah late but then i overcompensated and the reason i was mad at myself was because i was not a good pitcher but i i was a pitcher in high school so i was capable of throwing the ball because it's the same dimensions high school baseball and major league baseball as far as from the the mound to the plates i could have should have just trusted my um experience to say i can lob in a very slow easily hit ball over the plate i'm capable of this but i let all of the the haters and the

doubters get in my head and so i'm watching it now i didn't know this was online did you know that it's online it's an eight second uh clip i don't think i did somebody posted here he doesn't jump up he does stand up and reach up but it's not uh it's not like um you know it is definitely not in the strike zone i will give you that but it's not embarrassing again it's not well depends on who's almost a wild pitch what's that it depends on who's umping that's true and i guess who's batting as well like if it was the jolly green giant that might be in the strike zone i'm

not sure if it was minute bowl i like that minute bowl is still my is still my tall guy go-to like minute bowl has not been somebody that they talk about in terms of basketball in many years probably i need to upgrade like taco foul or whatever some or i was almost gonna say george mirazon who's another minute bowl minute bowls kid bowl bowl is in the nba and i'm still referencing the dad

which is i only know that name because of you i think you've talked about him on the show before. No longer with us, I'm saying here, so that's sad. Manupol

was a very interesting character. He was, the story was, he was a, he was royalty in his tribe, and I forget which part of Africa he was from, but I'm pretty sure he was from a tribe of people who tend to be very, very tall, and it was one of those things where he sort of learned basketball because it would have been a real waste for someone who was like 7'4 to not play basketball, but he had a very unorthodox style And I remember when he was a 76er, I think he hit like five three-pointers in a game. And his shooting style was wild, the way that he would shoot. Because, again, I don't think he grew up playing basketball. He sort of picked it up in his early 20s or something. But then also was a real humanitarian, did great work for a lot of the people in the part of the world that he came from. I also seem to remember there was a promotion once. he was raising money for a project and an ice hockey team to help create more attention for what he was raising money for. I believe he played goalie maybe for this ice hockey team for like one game. It's like minor league team and Manute Bowl on ice skates. Bambi. It sounds like straight up Bambi shit. Serious, serious Bambi vibrations from Manute Bowl. So R.I.P. Manute Bowl. That guy was uh the guy was a cool dude yes gone too soon um i uh as i mentioned at the top of the show i'm here in chicago because we were uh doing wait wait don't tell me last night at this new place the studebaker theater it's not a new place it's an old place actually it's in something called the fine arts building but i'll tell you what andrew it is nice i guess the story is you know for many many many years i guess for pretty much its whole existence uh wait wait has happened was when in chicago would be at this place called the chase bank auditorium which did you ever actually go to that place have you ever been in

there okay permission to speak freely yes granted if i say anything that is insulting to you or your colleagues over there we can cut it out i did see i've seen wait wait don't tell me live several times but only like one says like kind of a guest of yours and like in the modern era and i can't remember if wait wait was on like if they were visiting another city and i and i know i was there i was there with carrie in the audience you were on stage we met some folks backstage we met bill but i can't remember if that was actually in chicago did you actually do that show in um arizona by any chance i know that you did a lot when we were in arizona but

that was a live wire thing i think i am wondering was it when we did tbtl live in chicago and did we get here a couple days early maybe and i and i knocked out a wait wait on a thursday and then maybe we did uh tbtl live at the virgin hotel that same little run of time it doesn't feel like it

was that trip to me but i could be wrong but i will say this this is what i was going to say that's a little bit rude and i guess i'm not even 100 sure that it was the chase bank auditorium but i remember walking in and being like oh her like i remember it feeling very much like well it says it has bank in the title but it felt like a place it's i always pictured it more because every time i'd seen wait wait don't tell me live they were on the road somewhere in new hampshire so i'm seeing it in like some old theater with a lot of character and i remember being in there and being like oh this is like it's the last day of the conference and we need to hear the keynote speak wherever i saw you is more like those kind of vibes yeah that would definitely

have been the chase bank auditorium which is a misleading it's a misleading name because there you know so many theaters and stadiums and places now have corporate naming obviously so the Chase Bank auditorium sounds like a really awesome place that Chase Bank has paid for the naming rights to but no it is just a basically kind of glorified conference room it feels like a place if you went to a public university where you would take a mid-size class like intro to archaeology or something like I don't know how many seats there are gonna be 300 seats in there And it was definitely built so that when, you know, whoever the head of Chase Bank is or whoever the regional manager is, when they came through Chicago, if they wanted to give a PowerPoint presentation to some other Chase executives, they could gather down in this kind of, again, glorified meeting room. And, I mean, my guess is that the way that Wait, Wait ended up there was a long, long time ago. Wait, Wait was not as big of a deal. I mean, the show used to be didn't have an audience. It was a sort of a recorded show where everyone would be in different studios. Ironically, it kind of went back to that during the pandemic. But then the story goes with Wait, Wait, that it was sort of just humming along. It was not particularly popular as a show. And then they went to a public radio conference and they did the show live, like in front of a crowd. And the energy was so much better having a crowd there to react that they realized, oh, this should be how we do the show. So that was probably around the time when they were looking for a theater that would let them do this show every Thursday night. And I'm sure that like Chase Bank was like, well, you can use our conference room because we don't need it on. The other hard part about getting a theater is the way a lot of theater support themselves is they bring in a production, you know, Hamlet to the deuce or whatever. So it's hard for a theater to go dark every Thursday night, or I should say to tell Hamlet, too, okay, you can play here, but every Thursday night is spoken for. This public radio show is going to be doing their thing. It's kind of a little bit of an odd schedule. Point being, you're absolutely right. Chase Bank Auditorium was kind of a weird holdover from a previous era when they didn't have a whole lot of leverage as a show. And what I found out last night was about five years ago, Chase fired the staff. there was a small staff of like three or four people that worked at the theater like they did the av they they they just kind of managed it and chase bank quietly let those folks go and so for the last five years there had just been somebody whose job it was to go turn the lights on and then leave and then basically the wait wait folks were just kind of taking it from there really yeah it was just this so i guess when the pandemic happened uh and then they were in negotiations Hey, can we come back and do the show? And then the Chase Bank people said, sure, if you want, but also. we have a corporate policy that no more than 10 people can gather in the same room. That's Chase Bank wide. And so that would also

apply to y'all. So that was that brought to a close. The show's relationship. What I was saying last night was, like backstage I was like, who is the person at, within Chase Bank, in the marketing department, who allowed this unbelievable free promotion to walk out the door like that is there is a person who was not doing a very good job there they should have been paid i mean i don't know six million people a week hear the show that's a really i mean that and then peter was like do you think the chase bank really needs our promotion i was like well they put signs on the sides of buses so they obviously do what some you know like i mean peter is very self-deprecating and obviously like them saying chase bank auditorium at the beginning of that show was not make or break for the corporation but it certainly wasn't bad for it and like i just don't know a place like chase which obviously has an a huge marketing team or whatever you want to call them some floor of that building is people trying to work on the brand i mean maybe they were at crmc um this week and maybe they were that's why we moved because they were they were not watching the uh you know the the account or something but like i just can't believe that Somebody at Chase Bank did not recognize the value of having six million people a week hear the name of your auditorium like four or five times on a Saturday.

Yeah, I'm not sure. Again, like I agree that there's always kind of like brand reinforcement is important, but also like in the grand scheme of things, like what they're balancing and what their priorities are. I guess I'm not totally shocked that they let it walk away. I'm sure it's, you know, again, when you just think about them as a as just an international, you know, multibillion dollar company with a lot of things going on. I don't know how much. And it's also like one of those things, too. It's like who was there when it started and who knows, you know, who knows who. Yes. You and I have had business relationships like that, too, to the degree that you and I have had business relationships. But anyway, yeah. So I don't want to speak to that. But how was it last night? I take it a pretty fancy occasion.

It was nice. Well, again, I found out I'm the soft launch, not the hard launch. So, you know, I think there'll be more – there'll be a balloon drop or something next week. What made it a soft launch? They're not actually using it on the air or what? No, they're using it on the air, but I think it was friends and family. I don't think they charged for tickets, and I think that they just, like, told people associated with the show, invite anyone you know who wants to come see this thing, as opposed to selling tickets. and I guess that was what made it soft versus the official launch but no, this theater, the Studebaker Theater is really cool, it's in what's something called the Fine Arts Building and basically I guess what happened was this family bought the building, I actually met one of the members of that family she said they made their money in remediating farm soil in Palm Springs and then took that money who knew and then bought this building, the Fine Arts Building and uh and and the i i believe it might have been the the dad was a wait wait fan and somebody they said we really want to have wait wait at this studebaker theater and the wait wait folks came and did a walkthrough and said this is a very cool building but this is really really everything is falling apart this is like you know a hundred year old theater so they went in and they fully remodeled it everything but the ceiling was redone the chairs the audio booth every single thing has been redone perfectly basically for wait wait oh wow because they'll be there every thursday night now they are going to have other shows come through which i guess those shows are going to get the talk you're welcome to do your show every night except thursday in fact there's something there right now called skates which is some like roller skating musical the way you said that makes me think that it's spelled with a z is skates spelled with a z i i don't think so but our our Our sign on stage, which said, wait, wait. Oh, by the way, we have really nice permanent signage now for our names. So it was Hari, Kondabolu, Nagin, Farsad, and me there last night. And they used to have these little kind of like cloth banners with our names on it. Now we got these real like wooden signs. I feel like they can't fire me for some period of time because they're invested in this sign that says Luke. Soft launch. Hard sign, though. That's nice. But the set that we were on was in front of something called Skates. So I guess tonight it's back to Skates or whatever.

Nice. Oh, I assume you did not. I totally forgot about this myself. You did not tell Hari. I said hello, did you? I totally forgot. I forgot. I forgot until this very second, too. It is amazing. Do you want me to call him? Yeah. Just say, please hold for Andrew and just leave it at that. It is amazing how – and this is not a good thing, by the way. I should probably just shut up right now for both – to not say this both in front of you and the listeners. But it's amazing how you and I will do this show, and especially on days when we talk for like an hour and 45 minutes, which yesterday might have been a long one or Wednesday or something. It's just like we've created this universe, and then I say goodbye to you, I post the show, and then somebody can say, hey, what did you talk about? I'll be like, I don't know, man. Like it's just amazing. Like, it was so important to me 24 hours ago that you say hi to Harikandabolu, and then we find out whether or not he remembers me, which, of course, that wasn't even a good plan to begin with, because he would just fake it until he made it anyway. But I had completely, the second, that was so important to me with the mics on, and then the second the mic went off, I was just like, oh, I think I like vanilla. I don't know.

I forgot it as you were saying it. Yeah, so there you go. No, you know what happened, though, was because we were going to this new theater and we didn't exactly know where it was, we were all meeting in the lobby. And as I emerged from the elevator, I was getting a call from Hari because he was like, am I in the right place? So immediately our dynamic was, like, had he been backstage and I had some time to think about it on my walkover, I might have remembered. But because it was 5% chaotic, of course, that thought flew right out of my head.

Yeah, and also, like I say, I don't think it would have produced any interesting results anyway, so that's fine. But my brain is bad. What did I say before the show? We were goofing around. I have a new catchphrase, right? What is it again? That's my brain.

By the way, that's the next musical is done at the Studebaker. It's That's My Brain, Andrew's One Man Show.

Can't you see the long, like you mentioned a bus advertisement before? Like, can you imagine, like, the long horizontal bus advertisement? It's just, like, me with my hands and my shoulders shrugged and my hands kind of in the air, kind of tilted, being like, that's my brain. And then it has, like, those, like, one-word reviews.

Riotous. Funny. Forgetful. Or forgettable, I guess, would be the word there. I have, speaking of that's our brain My brain has been going over something that is so inconsequential But I'll tell you about it The hotels, I feel, love to be sort of quirky in their signage and their messaging I've talked about this before on the show It's very rare to find, particularly a hotel that's trying to present itself as maybe unique or upscale or in some way notable they'll never just have like do not disturb yeah on the door sign like i need my me time right exactly i'm i'm getting glammed it's like it always the the like it's like the people that run hotels think that we are going to absolutely just perish if we have to put a sign out that just says please don't disturb me right now like in fact the one at this hotel let see i took a picture of it uh is one of the more extreme examples of this that i've ever seen it says i knew this job would be too much and it's this has to be a piece of art because we are in kind of like an area we're near columbia college the one that says i don't want to be around anymore yes it's carl andrew i'm gonna send you this thing the guy doesn't look unlike carl havoc this is obviously this has to be a um actually you know what is it studs turkle I don't know

Chicago

Yeah it's definitely this is a reference to something That's either like a I knew this job Would be too much for me Is what the I bet you Because you know how Studs Terkel did that working Series where he would interview people I'm going to send you this tell me if you think this is Studs Terkel Well anyway I'm kind of giving That one a pass because I like that it's a reference to Chicago And either this is a piece of art that I don't recognize Or it is in fact maybe Studs Terkel But here's what I wish they wouldn't do They have decided to label what I think is the conditioner In the shower So it's like three little containers That you can pump stuff out And one says shampoo And one says body wash And the middle one says hair balm Now, by process of elimination I'm assuming it's conditioner But I don't know maybe it's hair balm why can't we just call it conditioner why do we have to call it and it's kind of like it's it's old-timey looking like again this is another example of where they wanted they thought well if we just say shampoo and one says conditioner and one says body wash that won't be fun and flirty enough what if we have the middle one say hair balm well now i'm wondering did i put some kind of if i put hair balm in my delicate my fragile hair which is Who's threatening to spontaneously fall out at any moment if I stop taking finasteride? ironically it's pert in the bottle i mean that's the thing they've separated out the shampoo because remember pert used to be shampoo and conditioner separately then they combined them for pert plus right and then it was like the whole that was the plus that was the plus the whole thing about pert plus i know this as a i was a power user of pert plus growing up that was what was in our downstairs uh bathroom shower and um it was like it's shampoo and conditioner in one you know not unlike the the uh i guess jelly and peanut butter in one that was also something they tried in the 80s i never messed with that i don't know if you did or not but i messed with some pert plus and uh it was fine but then i think they just stopped making regular pert like that'll happen with products sometimes right they create a spin-off and then they just forget about their first children and now i don't think you can get pert separated out uh interesting i guess that is it

What's that? I thought so.

Don't be mean to my friend Ian. I was literally just wondering, I wonder if that's interesting. Yeah, I think that anyway. Yeah, I don't have a lot on hair balm. I don't know that that would have. It's so rare that I. Yeah, I think if it's a quick stay, I think it's kind of rare that I wash my hair in a hotel room. And that's like, you know, I was on the road with you or, you know, to Denver and back. So that was a 10 day trip. Obviously, I wash my hair a couple of times, but I don't wash my hair every day. I assume you don't wash your hair every day, do you? Oh, yes, absolutely. Oh, you do. I would think specifically, especially because you have such specific routines, I would think that you wouldn't want to overwash it.

Now, see, Andrew, we have arrived somewhere interesting. You doubted the Pert Plus conversation because you're like much more of a shower than me. You love your shower. You love your wake-em-ups. You'll take two a day if you can. And I actually bizarrely don't – I mean I do take a shower every single day, but I don't like love the activity of showering. Like if I didn't have to, I probably wouldn't, and I schedule – I have this whole involved schedule around the jogging and then the showering because the last thing I'd want to do is – like if I take a shower, I'm done doing anything that generates sweat for the rest of the day because I don't like taking a shower, getting all like my little hair combed and powdered and whatnot and then exercising because then, of course, i do have to shower after that but for all that i always wash my hair is that a problem should i

not be doing that oh i every every hair is different luke every little hair on that head of yours is different no i i don't know i don't want to give out i cannot give out any hair advice i mean for christ's sake look at me i cannot give out any hair advice all i know is my hair you know is very different the day i wash it it's it doesn't matter so much anymore because i've lost so much hair that i just keep my hair very short anyway ideally i keep it short so it doesn't matter but the second it gets any kind of length to it and then especially when i actually was a long-haired hippie back in the 90s um washing my hair made it very big and fluffy and um and i didn't like it big and fluffy i like it you know maybe the next day when it's like some of the natural oils have taken over a little bit and the hair will lay a little bit flatter and because i don't usually put product in my hair too like kind of i don't do the thing where it's like i wash it and then it gets kind of frizzy and light and then I have to put product in it and I got to wash that product out. I would just like – I probably wash my hair – now I'm going to say I wash my hair probably about twice a week, but I used to wash my hair once a week. I thought I was on the recommendation of a professional hair person too.

I definitely – when I had more hair and I was younger, I know what you're talking about, that kind of like next day, a little bit of your body's oil has kind of done its thing. I always thought that that was a little bit of a better look. But now that I have less hair, this is also – I used to never use conditioner. Now I use conditioner. I basically, like, want my hair to be as poofy and, like, I want my hair to be, like, a cat, a scared cat. I want it to be big. A scared cat's tail. Yes, exactly. I want it to be poofed out because then it just looks like there's more of it. It looks a little thicker, a little more lustrous. lustrous so i i have yeah so i like if i were to not wash my hair by day two or three the more grease there is the more that it's clinging together the less coverage i'm getting less volume so for me the ideal is anytime particularly i'm doing a public event like last night i want to take a shower pretty close to it and i want to like come out again looking like a poodle or

something if possible i i like to uh look like neil hamburger as much as possible i want my hair They're just sort of just like kind of laying very, very flat and plastered.

One other quick thing from last night, and then we can move on. Kenan Thompson was the Not My Job guest. And what a sweetheart. Now, he was on the phone from the New York Rangers hockey game, which was kind of funny. It's weird. When I'm on that show as just a guest or a panelist, it's very hard for me to turn my host brain off. Because, you know, when I'm doing Livewire or this show, I.

just have to make a lot more decisions i mean if we're doing a live show or something like of the hosting part of it it's very stressful for me like he was at a hockey game there was a lot of noise in the background i can tell that it was kind of like peter was kind of trying to make a call on if we should stop and have him move somewhere etc and i am so like tempted to like jump somehow jump in but i'm like this is not my responsibility i will leave this to the very capable people that are handling it but he was keaton thompson was just so lovely like he was just one of those folks i I mean, I guess it would make sense because he has a long background in sketch comedy and improvising and things like that. But, like, every question that we were throwing at him, he just had an interesting, thoughtful answer. He was just friendly. He was just like a really sweet dude.

Well, I'm really glad to hear that. I mean, the energy that he seems to put out there would, you know, that would jibe with that. But, you know, what do I know about somebody's energy? I just know him literally from watching SNL skits, usually three years too late, if not three days too late. But I'm really glad to hear that because it is true Like he's just the type of person Like literally when you say his name I get a smile on my face right He just seems like such a sweet sweet guy

And that was exactly how he was In this conversation too Like he was not overthinking anything But he also wasn't Sometimes we'll get people who Are really into the show And they're like geeking out to be on it And then sometimes we'll get people who it's clear that their publicity person Said you have to do this phone call on a Thursday night and they kind of don't know what the show is they kind of don't care and he was like i didn't get the sense that he was like a wait wait head but he was super nice and he was not sounding like this was the last place he wanted to be i mean despite the fact that he was at a hockey game but he was like he just was like he was just a very he just seemed very sweet and very like not pretentious but giving good interesting answers to the questions so but let's talk

about the hockey game thing here for a second because in a certain way like in a certain way I think that you and I kind of like something weird like that in the types of stuff that you and I do like, hey, that's that'll add some strange texture if he's calling in. But it's like on TBTL. That's a very different thing. Right. But for wait, wait, did the producers know that this was the case? But it was just like, well, what can we do? He's a big get. This is the only way we can get them. Or did they think this is going to be funny? Or was it a surprise? And they were kind of bummed and they were trying to because it doesn't see. i don't know the producers of that show but it doesn't seem like a very of all the npr and npr station producers that i've known very few of them would be chill with a guest calling in from a live sporting event unless that was the bit you know right and the thing that complicates it

for the that show is this is going to air on like saturday and sunday and one of the things that they're very careful about is you know we don't ever say tonight we try to like the idea is that if you turn it on on a Saturday morning it feels kind of relevant and like it's happening in the moment so you can't exactly say oh you're at a hockey game I mean maybe they'll end up in the final mix I don't know because that would not make sense on Saturday morning because they're not playing hockey at nine in the morning St. Louis time you know so wait so they you guys

didn't acknowledge you didn't talk a lot about the fact that he's at a hockey game it came up towards the end of the interview oh I thought it would have been so front and center so the noise

wasn't that terrible then well it was it came and went so it was sort of like and i could tell that peter was just you know again this these are the decisions you have to make when you're a host is how much pointing this out is is actually just distracting people because a lot of time when you're hosting something like this and you know this too andrew from hosting things it looms larger in our head than it does in the head of the audience and as the host there's a temptation to want to like make a big deal out of something that a lot of people are not even noticing and so there's this kind of you're trying to decide do i call attention to this or not i think peter's take was don't call attention to it until it became like impossible i said something i actually you know it might have been slightly on me i said are you taking the pictures for the beginning of snl right now because it sounded like he was standing on like a subway platform or something you know you know they're always like out in new york being new yorky and then he said yeah yeah we we take those four months before the season starts which was a joke because like they just wrapped their season um but then peter said yeah where are you and then he was like i'm at this hockey game and then it became a part of the shtick so maybe it'll end up in the final mix i'm not sure but uh all of that is to say he was super he was really warm and friendly and and like i said for for probably talking to a bunch of people that he was not deaf not aware of beforehand again i didn't get the sense he was a big wait wait listener he just was like respectful and kind and like just not he just he just seemed very present and he seemed exactly like the way you

would hope that keenan thompson would be that's great it's amazing so he will be back next season i know that snl just said goodbye to a lot of long-time cast members at the end of this last season um and so but he's he's still gonna do it right he's like the longest running uh what actor the longest running cast member like by a long shot now I think right yeah he started in 2003 he's the only he was the first cast member on the show who was born after the show started so he came he was fairly young when he started he's been there for 20 years now and this was exactly and I'm not I'm not nobody get mad at me I'm not spoiling anything but this is what I liked about him you one a person could read this question of like why are you still at snl as being slightly insulting kind of like hey you have all these other people that leave because they go on to like pursue their film career or what have you you've stayed there and he's just said he goes well i've been an out-of-work actor before and i've been out there hustling and doing auditions he goes and i don't like that yeah he goes this is he goes i really like knowing that i have a job for eight months out of the year doing this you know which i was like that's a really good answer to that question and a really honest one that just kind of was the tone that he had the whole time which I appreciate it it must

also speak to his personality that because I think a lot of people feel burnout from that although I think a lot of the people who just left actually had been like Kate McKinnon did Kate McKinnon just leave or did she leave a while ago I think she just left

a bunch of I don't know she's she left to focus on maniacally pacing a soundstage talking about Verizon right oh wow

yeah they killed those commercials I'm glad of that because I like her a lot but those commercials no I love her I am a those commercials were rough but But, yeah, I, you know, I guess that there were a bunch of people who had actually kind of hung on for a long time. But for a while, the reputation of SNL was, you know, it is a good stepping stone when you get when you get the invite to be on that show. It's a huge honor. But then it very quickly kind of grinds you out because like it's always traditionally had always been about like the competition between the cast members and the comedians. And then, like, there was eras of a lot of backstabbing and trying to, like, climb up on top of your cast members to get higher yourself. And I don't know if any of that's true at all anymore. Obviously, I'm beyond the outside of that, and I haven't even really read into it lately. But if there's any of that that's still true, it speaks well of Keenan that, like, he can just navigate that. Because, again, he's probably just a really cool character.

Yeah. He seems completely unperturbed by any of that stuff. And like he just kind of is like, you know, shows up for work, does his job, doesn't overthink it or underthink it for that matter. Just kind of like is not just seems like a low drama individual, which which was which probably has served him well in that.

If I could have a cameo, it would just be him giving me that look when I give a ridiculous answer on one of his fake one of his fake.

He talked about that, too.

I just want that look from him, make it a three second look, just like he's disappointed in me.

And then fiend. Well, something that Peter mentioned in the interview was that apparently for a period of time, the writers of SNL would just write Keenan reacts into things. And then and then eventually then Keenan said, yeah, they've stopped doing that because they don't want to look like they're being lazy. But it's still kind of in there. Like it's implied there. There are sketches that are just really the whole thing hangs on Keenan reacts.

Yeah. Well, he's good at reacting.

Yeah. All right. We're good at taking breaks. 48 minutes into the show By the way, this clock Andrew, I don't know if I've mentioned I'm surrounded by clocks This clock that I bought To bring on the road is The biggest POS It is impossible to read You know, it's digital, right? So people know how a digital clock works, right? But for some reason The part of this digital clock That is not illuminated Because you know how, I mean, every single digit Can be every digit, right? Like, that's how they work this one always just looks like it's some version of four zeros like it's not there isn't enough backlighting or something yeah i'm very disappointed you can't adjust that either it's not like a

contrast button like on an old um game boy no remember the game you're always messing with

the contrast is trying to exactly this is like a burned out game boy yeah that's a perfect example of what or whatever but anyway i can even see by this burned out game boy of a clock that it's been 49 minutes so we should take our first break and then we'll be back with more tbtl after this hello and welcome to top story all right our top story coming from the new york times as of 2021 we talked about this before the show yesterday andrew this is the difference of living i guess in a digital world versus a print world i saw this article because i was reading the new york times yesterday in the morning and this was listed in the like health and fitness section but the story is actually a year old and they would never print a year old story in the paper paper but i guess that that doesn't apply to this kind of world yeah i mean i guess it's just and it's somewhat probably algorithmic in a certain way sure oh by the way i want it i want to give

a little tease here can i give it Sorry, it's a little off topic, but it just popped in my head. Yesterday on the show, I was confused about a new meme that popped up into my feeds this week that was very strange and weird. I will only say this. Immediately after the show, I was just like, why don't I just go to knowyourmeme.com? And I just went through and I scrolled until I saw it because I knew it just popped up in the zeitgeist. I found exactly what it was. It turns out it's an AI-based generator. That is all I'm going to say for now. If you want more information, make sure you're signed up for the TBTL newsletter because I'm going ham with this. Ooh, I should put ham in the search bar. But I'm going ham with this AI thing for the newsletter this week. So anyway, yeah. So I guess the algorithm just boosted this water thing for you.

I get right. And I also hear that for people who are cast iron heads, cast iron reclamation project heads, there might even be some video evidence of that. Yeah.

I am done with my cast iron project now And I don't have to get into the details of it But it's done, it's cleaned up, it's seasoned It was quite the journey this week Last night, probably around 2am Your time, I blasted you with about nine I hope those texts did not wake you up Or disturb you No, they didn't But it's very satisfying to see the progress Yeah, I sent you like nine photos of the progress Over the course of the past week or so But anyway, yeah, so Midweek I took a Hey Dummies video of me Scrubbing and treating this Cast iron skillet if you're interested in that Content I'm slinging tent Slinging tent That's what kind of comedy bang bang I just realized

You gotta sling that tent Christy Ashwandan Writing in the New York Times How much water do you actually need This was interesting to me because Part of our debate Andrew We were both wondering did we talk about this story already And the reason you were thinking we might have Was because of a conversation we had about Jonah Hill carrying around a really oversized water bottle and how I was mentioning that that seemed to be a trend. I would see in, you know, TMZ and other things where they take snaps of celebs living their life in Los Angeles that it seemed like a lot of them would have this big, giant water bottle. And I actually went out and bought myself a big, giant water bottle, which I was going to try to get through every single day. I did that for about a week, and then I lost my motivation. And I was kind of encouraged to read this article because the gist of it is the idea that we all need to be drinking gallons and gallons of water every day seems to be sort of overblown, according to Dr. Joel Topf, a nephrologist and assistant clinical professor at Oakland University in Michigan. Dr. Topf says that we do need to stay hydrated, but the idea of being hydrated has been blown completely out of proportion. Actually, sorry, this is another expert, Kellyanne Hindman. She says, staying hydrated is important, but the idea that the simple act of drinking more water will make people healthier is not necessarily true, nor is it correct that most people are walking around chronically dehydrated or that we need to be drinking water all day long. From a medical standpoint, the most important measure of hydration is the balance between electrolytes like sodium and water in the body. You don't need to chug glass after glass of water throughout the day to maintain it. They go on to say that, I mean, of course, there are medical conditions that some people might have that mean they need to actually drink a lot of water if you have kidney stones or things like that. But for the average person, they're basically saying, you know what is a good indicator of when you're thirsty? When you're thirsty. Or when you should be hydrating is when you're thirsty. Our bodies are pretty good at telling us we need to drink more water. We also get a lot of water in the foods we eat and also this idea that coffee dehydrates you. They say that if that's even a thing, it is incredibly minimal. In other words, drinking a cup of coffee hydrates you. You're drinking mostly water. Now, I don't know why I need to – I'm not like trying to tell people. Like if somebody feels good drinking water, heck, yeah, drink water, hydrate. But it seems like this whole – we're carrying on these water bottles that say like you're almost there. You got this. you're nailing it like it's probably not necessary that we're all psyching ourselves up to drink so

much water all the time and i'm doing this from memory one of the reasons i thought we talked about this is because i had i know i've read this article before that's why i was like reading i'm like we've but the thing is i guess sometimes i accidentally read articles that we don't talk about on the show which really seems like a mailman going for a walk on his day off doesn't Anyway A busman's holiday, I believe No, but I think I had read this before So I was sort of scanning it again the other day And I was surprised to see that they actually even said Because I always thought, well, there's no harm in drinking too much water And this article didn't go like bananas with exaggerating the harm But basically they said, actually, what it's about is balance, right? It's about the balance of sodium and water in your system at any given time and if you're drinking too much water then you're you're knocking that balance off in the same way as if you're not drinking enough water and it can lead to certain kind of conditions too and again i don't think that i have to worry about our audience going out and like drinking so much water that you know they're they're harming their health because they've drinking that much water i have a feeling that that's pretty rare but it turns out there actually is a downside i think they said something like you get like water drunk or something they said something like your water intoxication or something that is not necessarily good for you can make you feel sort of out of it or spacey yeah this is an interesting part of the article

in reality most healthy people who blame feeling ill on being dehydrated may actually be feeling off because they're drinking too much water one of these doctors dr hindeman says uh maybe somebody will get a headache or they'll feel bad and they're thinking oh i'm dehydrated i need to drink more they keep drinking more and more water and they keep feeling worse and worse and worse like uh i just i find it so interesting that the again i don't i i'm not trying to come hard for the idea of drinking water here like again if if it's something that makes somebody feel healthful great i guess and you're not and you're not doing overdoing it to where you're making yourself sick i don't know what there's not really a big downside but it is interesting that this has become this truism in our world now and you know everyone i know particularly out of the women in my life everyone's just always carrying water bottles and hydrating and talking about i should be drinking more water i'm gonna i'm gonna you know like it's weird that this thing that doesn't seem to be a lot of science to support has become just an absolute truism yeah and they because we

all grew up with the eight glasses of water a day right like eight ten ounce whatever it is um and uh and they say like there's not really again there isn't a standard for that because every body is different and every condition of what the environment of those bodies are different as well There was a, you know, I mean, again, this just sounds so obvious, but they're just like, hey, listen, if you're somebody who is 120 pounds and you're sitting behind your computer for eight hours for your workday, you're going to need less water than a 200 pound man who's hiking, you know, up a mountain. Like, that's obvious, but it's just kind of like they're trying to, like, kind of belie the notion that there is a standard because there can't be a standard because there's too many factors.

Right, exactly. If we're all supposed to drink eight, eight, eight ounce glasses of water a day, that doesn't account for the difference in body size and a bunch of like variables like that. Also, another thing they said that I thought was interesting was if your urine is maybe a little brown or or amber or something or not like perfectly clear, it does not necessarily mean you're dehydrated.

Right. Although it is sometimes fascinating. Well, this is gross, but sometimes I do find it fascinating when you go to use the restroom on those occasions where you have been, like, outside working or doing whatever, exercising, whatever it is, and you're like, oh, wow, I am dehydrated. Like, sometimes I think it is an indicator because sometimes it's very obvious. Is it weird that I like it when my pee smells like asparagus? No, but probably best not to explore it too much. but i know what you mean especially when it's a surprise it's kind of like oh hey there i don't

know why it's i wouldn't want my urine to smell like that all the time that would be kind of troubling but there's some strange satisfaction in going number one and being like oh i did have asparagus yeah i don't understand why that's a pleasant experience for me but i have to be honest it is i feel like this is something that you might say i wonder there must be something

in like our evolutionary makeup that I mean we're not as we're not as repulsed by our own bodily smells as we are somebody else's even if it smells exactly the same right like sure and so

there must be something about that there also was a time I remember this where it was we were being told or I was thinking that if your pee is not perfectly clear you're not hydrating enough did

you ever get that one i never got that i did remember my overly chatty x-ray technician about a year ago when i was going through like i had broken a couple of fingers and i was uh spending a lot of time over at this clinic where they were taking x-rays and stuff a lot um and one of the guys just would talk so much he told me all about his setup of his of his rumpus room and how many tvs he's got down there like it was just amazing and i again the x-ray part of my visits were the short part like i he packed so much information into our 10 minute little um uh encounters together but um i remember him it was that terrible heat wave last year it's amazing to think that that terrible heat wave was going on last year when it just will not stop raining here now but um i remember him even saying he's like well i know it's kind of gross but i always like to watch the because i was like oh yeah it must be tough uh you know having kids with this heat wave and everything he's like oh we got a good setup and he's telling me all about his basement rumpus room or whatever and then he's like oh there's a little

gross maybe or maybe this a little bit too much information but you know i got to keep an eye on the kids urine you know make sure that it's clear i'm just like wow man just take the pictures take the picture get me out of here it wasn't that bad i'm exaggerating this a little bit like he did say that stuff i'm exaggerating my uncomfort with the situation or discomfort with the situation i actually kind of enjoyed talking with him i thought he was kind of a hoot i will say this

though if he truly is checking his kids urine for again to make sure they're not dehydrated i mean that's a level of helicoptering that it just seems certainly wasn't the way that the parents were parenting when i was a kid let's just say um because you didn't have p-checks you didn't have randomized p-checks my parents i mean i i say this all the time but it's like in the summertime at about nine in the morning I would get on my bicycle and I would just ride in some direction and I would come home when the sun went down at like nine o'clock at night and what would happen what would transpire in those 12 hours would be anyone's guess but I can tell you no one was checking on my the color of my urine to make sure that I was hydrating like yeah if they were checking

your pee during that period is to make sure that you weren't like addicted to heroin by the time

you got home at the end of the day they wouldn't have even cared as long as i wasn't making trouble as long as the police weren't calling or other kids parents weren't you know as long like my number one job as a kid was to not be a hassle for my parents and anything else i did that fell below the line of being a hassle for them was basically fine i mean maybe not expressly but they were gonna let a lot slide as long as i just didn't make their life any harder but Because this gets back to this idea That like somehow our ancestors Were walking around dehydrated all the time Because they weren't carrying a giant water bottle That says you got this And or checking their kids urine colors Like our body My takeaway from this article is our bodies are pretty smart Our bodies tell us when we're thirsty Or when we need water by telling us You know We're thirsty we should drink some water And then we feel fine and that's a pretty good indicator And again I don't know why I needed to like Make a big deal out of this if somebody is just loving hydrating and if it works for them great go for it i just i guess really what it is i feel less bad about the fact that i have not been you know drinking two gallons of water a day it makes me feel like my my behavior is not as has not been as harmful to me as i was worried it was can you still return your huge hydro flask that thing is like i'm pretty limited like um shelves and um you know drawers in my apartment like because it's just it's kind of a smallish place and like the fact that almost an entire drawer is taken up with that giant hydro flask it mocks me every time i open that drawer and it's got all that dead space

inside of it but it's a water bottle so you can't stack it you can't put anything in it you can't you know what i mean like if it was a bowl or something you could stack it or put some put some jolly ranchers in it or something i've been eating a lot of jolly ranchers lately i mean a lot meaning that i hadn't had them in 30 years and now i bought one bag on my road trip and I'm slowly working my way through them.

Yeah, maybe I'll bring it up to the remodeling project. Maybe that'll be a good use for that thing, because fill it up with cold water, put it in the fridge, and then as I'm like swinging a sledgehammer and being all macho, I can go and slake my thirst with this gigunda water bottle. All right, let's do a little music for your weekend before we get on out of here. uh have you i've i'm seeing i feel like you're having a really nice relationship with the outside of your house andrew i saw a nice picture on insta the other day which was just the sky kind of it seemed like late at night seems like you're you're you're burning

things yeah yeah that was the other day when i was just sitting constantly yeah i was just sitting

and are you enjoying any music while this is happening i guess is where i'm it was what i'm

getting yeah um well here's one this is sort of related to what you're talking about because i was trying to figure out there were several songs that i was hovering over today um here's a here's a song that i will play that is sort of related to what you're talking about um it's been fun to watch in our front yard which is almost all our front yard it's hard to explain it doesn't have any lawn in it it's surrounded by um hedges but then inside it's like zero scape andrew yeah it's thank you it's uh it's a bunch of um you know various stones it's like a it's like a big garden out there with some stone paths and then like two big kind of garden plots and we are never exactly sure what's growing there right and i think i mentioned that genevieve was absolutely delighted that we have these two big peonies uh bushes i know that you told some filthy joke about that the other day when i tried to bring it up like come on luke um those are really nice when my peonies smell like asparagus and um and the other thing is just yesterday genevieve was looking out our front kitchen window.

with a big smile and i thought she was bummed because this rain is really bumming out the peonies because they were so big and then the rain comes and they they all kind of collapse under the weight of themselves in the rain but she had a big smile on her face i'm like oh what's are you looking at your peonies she's like no no look look look look the roses are coming out and she was very excited to see that we have a couple of nice blooms on this rose bush that is apparently there i don't really pay attention to these things until genevieve points them out to me i'll be honest with you i like the overall look of it but i was enjoying it on more of a macro level than a micro level and i'm like oh we do have roses and that's when i turned to genevieve and said well genevieve i always promised you a rose garden and she's like yes you did which then got me thinking of course about the song i never promised you a rose garden which do you know the artist who

did this i would have never known this artist hold on let's see i beg your pardon i never promised you a rose garden that's the one we're gonna play it yep like spyglass or something lynn

anderson apparently oh wow no yeah no idea yeah so anyway this is lynn anderson kind of an old classic country-ish pop song called rose garden

i beg your pardon i never promised you a rose garden Along with the sunshine There's gotta be a little rain sometime When you take you gotta give So live and let live or let go Oh, I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden I could promise you things like big diamond rings But you don't find roses growing on stocks of clover So you better think it over When if sweet-talking you could make it come true I would give you the world right now on a silver clatter But what would it matter? So smile for a while and listen to me

I'd like to let it run more, but who knows? Maybe Spotify might have issues with that, so I'll pull this down. I love that, though. I listened to that probably like four or five times yesterday, bopping around the kitchen.

Love the production on that. Beautiful. Okay, the song that I would like to play is called Santa Barbara, and it's by this guy Benny Sings, who I've been a fan of for a while now. He's actually a Dutch dude, but he's got an album. it's very generally his music in my experience is kind of almost a little smooth jazzy of sorts like it's very kind of mellow kind of jazz music but then he sings hence the name benny sings otherwise it would just be benny plays but uh it's benny sings plus natalie dawn and i heard the song like just it just came up on a playlist the other day and i was like natalie dawn natalie dawn why do i remember that name and so then i googled it and i realized oh natalie dawn is the singer in this band pomplamoose who many years ago when i can't remember if it was for it was probably for tbtl i was trying to get them on this is back when we had more guests and maybe for a live show pomplamoose is this this singer natalie dawn and her i believe it's her husband now this guy jack conti and they were kind of like one of the first bands to really figure out youtube and figure out how to they would do these videos that were very inventive where they would like record a whole bunch of different like tracks for the same song and then like layer them and so they'd get these cool harmonies and they did they did a lot of covers of things that were like they

did a cover of single ladies by beyonce yes i was gonna say i because i had a vague recollection i don't know if it was through tbtl or otherwise um but i was gonna say didn't they weren't they always doing like the covers of like hey wouldn't it be funny if this pop song was actually done with a maybe not a ukulele but a more like kind of countrified version or a stripped down version

yeah but they would they were very inventive or they they are i guess still very inventive with how they do it exactly like the layering like i said and the kind of anyway it was sort of visual but also you know very pleasant on the ears the whole thing but what i was thinking about was back in the day when this was happening I was emailing with this guy Jack Conte trying to get him trying to get them on TBTL and I remember just thinking again this was going back so many years of kind of being like I wonder if they're I was basically Andrew what I'm trying to say is I almost felt a little bit like protective of them or rooting for them like they're really talented they're trying to make it in this online game just like we are at TBTL I'm wondering if they're like are they making a living off of this How are they – like how is this all working for them? And today I guess.

I go to Natalie Dawn's Wikipedia page, and I click on Jack Conte's Wikipedia page. He's the co-founder of Patreon. Oh, Jesus, really? He's not using Patreon. He's the co-founder of Patreon, which I think they developed because of Pomplamoose. Holy shit. They were doing this Pomplamoose thing, and then they were trying to figure out how to monetize it, and then he and some other people came up with this idea for Patreon, and now he's the co-founder of Patreon. Oh, wow. I was like, I think they're okay. Yeah, probably. I think it's going fine for Pomplamoose. They're also both Stanford grads. So it was just funny that – and he was a sweet guy. Like, he and I were emailing pretty frequently, and I just had this idea of, like, these two kind of – I don't even want to say down on their luck, but these two aspiring artists, this, like, in love couple that was just trying to figure out a way to make it work and maybe make a living off of this crazy internet game. And I had this whole idea in my mind of who I was corresponding with, and he's the co-founder of Patreon. Nice. So anyway, point is I think they're going to be okay But this song, I like this song, Santa Barbara It's Benny Sings and Natalie Dawn Can you play a little bit of this, Andrew?

Nothing better than a rainy day with you On a Sunday and there's nothing here to do

We had nothing to spare when we started But my parents had a condo in Santa Barbara Santa Barbara

And now we're stuck in this bungalow park But your silly words keep me out of the dark We're getting high on your father's whiskey I'm so happy with me Just glad that you're with me Back at this old little house of the bay We never cared about the world anyway Nothing but grey skies, weird and sick I'm happier with you Just glad that you're with me

Can we wait a little longer? Cause I'm tired Just wait till we get stronger Then we'll fly again

Some people want adventure They let their heart out Some people bottle up

So there you have it, Santa Barbara. Little summer vibes. When does it actually start? When does summer start officially? I think the 21st of June, right? I mean, not in Seattle or Portland, I guess. That's probably, what, mid-August or something when actually it'll go above 70 degrees and stop raining.

it was amazing here yesterday not only has the rain continued but yesterday it dumped i mean luke it was not even like seattle rain where it kind of comes and goes and it's gloomy and gray like it was just like a steady downpour for all of yesterday i don't know how much you were following that on the road but it was just like i was driving i was running some errands it was astounding and then i woke up this morning and of course the amount of rain yesterday broke all

kinds of records for june you know yeah i mean obviously this is not how it works but it is a kind of a mind bleep to know that the that the globe is warming that the earth is warming and that we have real issues ahead of us because of that i mean extant issues like and yet also to have the weather just be cold and absolute shit in the summertime yeah here yeah exactly and There's a heat wave, you know, in other parts of the country, including even just in, like, eastern Washington and Oregon. It's like they're already in, like, critical drought conditions. So, like, I understand this intellectually to be the case, but it's still just weird. Even just being here in Chicago where it's just normal right now, so it's probably 75 or 80, I'm like, oh, this is a way it can be in June. Whereas back in the Northwest, it's just been so kooky. All right, our listener suggestion this week comes from listener Anna, who says, this may be too late, a submission, but listen anyway. Well, Anna, you got it in just under the wire. This is a brand new song from Regina Spector. When I first heard it, it immediately reminded me of your TikTok mystery song from a few months ago. Remember that journey we went on, Andrew? Yeah, sort of. Dude, they used that song. That song is called Wet and Rusting by Manomena. they used a like slightly remixed version of that the other other day on all things considered oh really and i was like wow if i would have not figured it out or if the listeners would not have explained it to me would that have been the moment of realization for me andrew what do they

list their bump music on npr.org or would you have reached out to somebody they used to i don't know if they do anymore but i was i noted it because like oh my god

Monomena, wet and rusting. This is the song in question. Anyway, Anna says, this is the song that reminds me of your TikTok mystery song. Also, it's a sweet song, and I love Regina Spector. Power out Anna in the Greenwood neighborhood of Seattle. So that's where we're going to go out with a little Regina Spector, who I am also a fan of on this Friday. So that's going to do it for today's show. That's going to do it for our broadcast week. Thanks, everyone, for spending this time with us. We will be back here on Monday With more imaginary radio for you So please do tune in for that Until then have a great weekend Go Mariners And please remember No mountain too tall And good luck to all

An incurable humanist you are Oh An incurable humanist you are You are You are, are you, are you Oh, an incurable humanist, you are Oh, an incurable humanist, you

Let's go to the movies I will hum you a song about nothing at all Let's go to the movies I will hum you a song about nothing at all Let's go to the movies Let's go to the movies

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Hey, I've learned a lesson here, but I hope you all have too about the vitality of shared experience. We will all remember this moment for the rest of our lives. It was dramatic, it was visual. It was stupid. It was stupid, but it was also theater. Power out.