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guess what day it is guess what day it is it's friday friday gotta get down on friday everybody's looking forward to the weekend today we are gonna go over a great self-defense strategy

pooping yourself you take a hot dog stuff it with some jack cheese fold it in a pizza you got cheesy blasters and then all the kids say thanks meat cat and then meat cat flies away on

his um skateboard one more vampire joke and i'm gonna walk right back there go into my coffin and

i'm not coming out okay who saw that coming all right hello good afternoon and welcome everyone to a special friday edition of tbtl isn't that for techno geeks with spreadsheet the show that just might be too beautiful to live my name is luke burbank i'm your host you want to do a make

believe radio show in a room somewhere i'm telling you there's no money in that coming to you from

the hollywood broadcast center right here in rainy portland oregon didn't know you like to get wet though we are recording this show a bit later than typical for us uh it's afternoon it's late afternoon it's like 4 30 right now west coast but still this time of year uh when it's uh 4 30 in afternoon it should be bright sunshine in fact it stays light until like 9 9 30 this time of year it's usually great as that intro package was playing i just had to walk over to the other side of the broadcast center and turn on the light don't stay in my house if you're dark sad because it is so cloudy and rainy that it was too dark in this room at 4 30 in the afternoon for me to operate the equipment so i've got that worked out i'm ready to get going with what We're calling TBTL Happy Hour.

I feel happy of myself.

Figured we're going to be recording in the afternoon on a Friday. We might as well try to brand it as something fun. Am I having maybe a little sip of Angeline Vineyard's Pinot Noir?

Super wine!

Maybe. That's my business. Here's your business as a listener. That's not really how we frame things. Here's all of our business together as a group. Episode 3708 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. I may have made a huge mistake here before we even started recording. I've made a huge mistake. So I felt bad because I've been at this all-day off-site meeting. And by off-site, I mean the site of my apartment is not where I've been. I've been somewhere else meeting with my colleagues and the board of the radio show that I work on, Livewire. and so the cat Bubbles has just been here alone all day and so I thought maybe a smart thing to do would be to bring the laser pointer because basically when I'm not here, Bubbles just goes to sleep and that's great, you know, kittens, they sleep a lot, whatever but it's one of those things where if I'm gone for four or five hours and she's sleeping for four or five hours that is just like a battery that's charging up and then charging up and then getting hotter and hotter and hotter and then is going to be very active. And so I brought this laser pointer into the studio with me. And as I'm talking to you all, I'm trying to run the laser pointer around in the room and even out the room and down the hall to get her moving. Because if I don't do this, she will just jump on my body and climb up me like a jungle gym. But if I now stop using the laser pointer, she starts meowing. So this may not have been the best strategy anyway. Here's what I want to talk about on this Friday, among other things. the unlikely rap career of a guy named Louis Thoreau. I'm the president of rap music, and I need to work with you right away. Even if you don't know that name, you know this song. You have heard this song. I promise you, if you've been outdoors or indoors looking at the internet. or listening to the internet in the last month or so. What is arguably the hottest rap song in America is from a British documentary filmmaker whose dad is a novelist and who never set out to make rap music. It's quite the story, so we'll talk about that. And we will do some, speaking of music, music for your weekend as well. All of that with the help of this young man, the longest-running Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's got a long weekend of lawn care in front of him.

I wanted to add a few comments regarding your mole situation.

He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Hello, my friend.

I wish I had a whole weekend of lawn care. I just see rain, rain, rain, rain, rain in the forecast. Now, listen, I don't want to be that guy who just complains about the weather. No, that's my job. I called dibs on that. You know you like to get wet, though. I will say this. I am very glad that there was a point in my work day yesterday, late afternoon, where I thought, Well, I could start working ahead on some like TBTL newsletter stuff and make my make my Friday a little bit easier. But the sun is shining and I haven't seen the sunshine in a long time. And it's about time that I mow the lawn. So maybe I should take advantage of this weather while it lasts. So I spent yesterday late afternoon and evening pretty well into the evening first mowing and weeding. And then I got obsessed with pulling dandelions out of the yard. And then I found this area of the garden that really needed some weeding. And I listened to the ball game on a transistor radio. I probably spent six hours getting dirt under my fingernails yesterday. And boy, did I make the right decision. Because now, from the moment I woke up this morning to this moment right now, it has been gray and rainy outside. And I don't know if that sun's ever coming back, my friend.

good call i'm very jealous i had my mic muted because the cat was making a lot of noise oh i see and when i went to say good call my friend still muted the yes the microphone was muted and uh b the music died at exactly that oh yeah it was a weird thing i really did have the worst

possible timing for me to have my mic muted i really need to remember that this isn't live and it's not that big of a deal but it was a weird feeling for a second because i kind of lost you and the music at the same time and i wasn't sure if i had just said something super offensive i was

like what did i just say what did i do what i was saying while i was muted was good call i'm glad you got that in because we are now looking at another weekend of pretty pretty crummy weather and i'm jealous to hear that your transistor radio situation works because you know how i bought the power bear yeah the transistor radio uh that i was going to listen to our baseball team on i was very excited to sit on my tiny balcony here in portland and use that radio and for the life of me i cannot get it to zero in on the am radio station in portland that alleges to play the mariners games i listened to a conservative talk radio station for far too long the other day i was like boy they're just they're running a lot of sean hannity ads on this mariners station and then eventually it was like you know it's the Lars Larson show I was like oh no no this is just I'm just listening to conservative talk radio right now and so what I have to do is listen to on my phone I have the Sirius XM app and as part of that subscription you get you know play by play of the baseball games which seems like okay whatever you're listening to it on your phone versus a transistor I know that you've I've got my whole fantasy about the old-timey radio uh but it's all the same right it's not all the same because by the time that the the play-by-play broadcast goes to wherever the serious satellite offices are and then gets uploaded to their satellite which i hear is serious and then beamed back down to my phone like four minutes has gone by and the problem with that is i cannot interact with my phone while i'm listening on this delayed system because if i were to look at my phone i will see if anything important for good or for bad has happened in the game i will see 10 comments from you all my sports friends and my actual brothers so it's like i want to avoid it at all costs but of late i've just been listening on my phone and then just having to ignore all of you and you're not getting all of my important mariners

thoughts in real time nice um i but you're lucky i'm drunk i wanted to talk to you i can't remember if I even brought this up at all on the show, but a few weeks ago before we left for Denver I kind of had the realization I don't have enough radios in my house I used to have a radio in almost every room in my house and I don't know what happened to them we moved houses, I don't know, but down in my little bathroom I realized I was carrying a radio, a Grundig crank radio that also takes batteries but it was like a, it was a gift I believe a thank you gift for supporting public radio

radio at some point in my life and it's a good it's not supposed to be retro looking it's kind of by its very nature somewhat retro looking it's a yellow plastic uh transistor radio and when i say crank i mean you can it's got a crank on it so if you're in a survival situation you can crank it up and uh it doesn't actually feel like that was that was there was a period of time

between the sea crane radio that they used to advertise on coast to coast with art bell and and just like public radio kind of sending out those hand crank I things feel apocalyptic right now but I don't think we're selling as many radios that are hand cranked or offering them as thank

you gifts yeah you know I think that this one was more like I I think it was New Hampshire public radio and it was probably like kind of more the idea of like when a hurricane comes and you lose power and you can't find your battery daddy are you my battery daddy um then you uh you can crank Like, it never really served much of a purpose for me, but it has been a radio that I've been using for years and years and years now. And you just sort of think, like, yeah, radios are radios, right? And I don't know if I told you this, but, like, I was – it takes me forever to buy things because I always think, oh, I've got to do the research. I've got to buy the right one, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, it's not that big of a deal. And with Amazon, like, you can just buy things now, and it's not going to break the bank. And so I find this little radio for my downstairs bathroom, and it's, like, it's more of a pocket-sized radio. like kind of old-fashioned looking, like you can hold it, like maybe it's the size of like a deck of cards, a little bit bigger than that, with a little antenna on it, and it's cute as hell, I can send you a link to it, it's called the Vondior, that's the brand, and it was like $15, I'm actually looking at it now, slightly less than $15 on Amazon, right, so I'm not expecting like broadcast quality, but all I want is a simple little transistor radio to listen to sports radio and the baseball games and how could this how could this fail me right and i it comes in the mail and it failed me like it is here i'm gonna i wrote my very first luke my very very first amazon product review on the review of a lifetime well i gave it a um four wait why is it oh i see that the total is uh 4.2 out of five i gave it a two-star review and this is why um headline Terrible sound quality for sports and talk radio Now I always try to be measured in these things You don't want to be a crank like a Grundig radio Because then it'll just kind of I don't know People can easily dismiss you Also I didn't realize that there's a waiting period There's a longer waiting period to have your review Approved by Amazon than there is to get a Glock By the way I assume that you have not heard any of these Glock commercials for like some like some Seattle gun store is having a Glock day this weekend where there's a contest and you can win the Glock and all kinds of salespeople from Glock are going to be there and they say Glock a lot and they put this Seattle Seattle sports radio indeed it is my friend indeed it is and it is it always chills me a little bit it's just so

weird go ahead I had to just I'll quickly put this parenthetical thought in about gun control because that's something that could be contained to about 45 seconds yeah i had this very happy hour yeah right uh i was thinking about the fact that the like uh i feel happy of myself you know the a lot of people who are very pro sort of in their minds protecting their rights under the second amendment like well they wrote it in the constitution and i thought well of course the founding fathers could have had they could have never known about the scientific advances if you will the technological advances in these guns and that you know no no one person could actually kill multiple humans with the same gun when they wrote the second amendment because they would just tackle you while you were reloading you know their your your musket or your blunderbuss or whatever it was and to keep using their guidance on guns and what we should do would be like using their guidance on cancer like you know they'd be like hang the patient upside down um let out the bad humors like we just understand get the leeches going like we just know that there was a lot of stuff those folks didn't know about because they just the science be like uh well what did the founding fathers have to say about space travel because that's what we're going with like benjamin franklin thought the moon was made out of cheese so don't go there it's i mean it's like it's one of the only things i can think of where we are actively trying to use the opinion of a number of people who could have never

conceived of what the current version of things are in a life or death situation and exactly on a huge scale so anyway that's the perfect lead-in to this customer customer review for the um what kind of radio is this again grundig oh no vondior vondior um here's what i wrote you can't beat the price see like i'm starting on a positive note for a two-star review you can't beat the price but you really get what you paid for. I only use this to listen to baseball games and sports radio, so I figured the sound couldn't be too bad. I was wrong. The volume knob is almost non-functional. Its lowest setting is too loud, and there's very little range between the loudest setting and the quietest. And the sound it does deliver just vibrates the whole device so that everything sounds buzzy and noisy, and it's just very difficult to listen to. Again, I paid $15, so I'm not mad, but future buyers should know what they're getting. What do you think? Andrew. Did you find that useful?

Do you realize, please go back to Amazon. I don't know if your system will display this. I believe the Vondior is just a power bear by another name. Are you serious? I'll screen cap this for you. There's a picture of the power bear and the Vondior, and they look to be, for all the world, totally created by the same company. There's some bizarre reason why they kind of have, like, the one I bought was black. Is the one you got silver? Mine's red.

I just sent you a link to the actual one that I have. So did you, uh, are you emailing me or texting me this thing? Cause I want to see if we got, if we ended up almost, oh yeah, I typed in power bear radio. The red one is exactly the same. You and I have the same, you and I might be dreaming on the same bright star. And having, and having bad outcomes. This is amazing. Yes. I just, they have it in red as well. It's the same exact thing.

What do you think the purpose of that is? I don't know. like the difference in the naming is fascinating like what they're like well we've tested it in the southeast and they're more von d'or people but if you get up there in uh you know the northeast and they're powered that's power bear country but look at the fonts on mine like the fonts on mine

are a little bit more retro like the fm am is more of a like kind of a little bit more of a retro font whereas yours is just like in a straight up sans serif and so there's tiny tiny differences

but it's the same gd thing that's so strange and mine also doesn't work for shit i haven't been able to get i haven't even been able to get the mariners on the radio enough to be mad at the sound quality right you know like i hadn't even i hadn't even arrived at that at that um disappointment yet because it's it also mine doesn't have any like real ability to um differentiate

between the am uh stations but the power bear is also slightly at a higher price point just a few Well, you know me, Andrew.

Why pay less when you can pay more for a non-functioning piece of equipment?

Well, it has led me to kind of a bit of a, like, I'm like, okay, listen, I swung and I missed on this. Just like the team I listened to. Wow. Jesse Winker made it. Yeah, I just winkered it on this radio. But now I was like, okay, Andrew, you're always overthinking these purchases. Like, just buy one quickly. And I did. And it sucks. And now I'm like, well, now I would need another radio. from my basement but now i don't know who to trust what to trust what price point i should be looking at like i don't want to be you know what i stumbled on the other day luke oh my god instagram thinks it really knows me now you would salivate over every instagram ad that i'm being fed now because they fed me one and boy did i bite at it oh my god i can't i'm trying to see if i can find the name of the company here on the fly but there is a company it's like they make these little small batch radios they take the actual outside of legit vintage radios and then they got them and they put new audio stuff in there so that you can stream your you know you can stream it via bluetooth and it has good sound quality but it's not like a company that is and yeah i'm sure you've already been on this you probably have oh i believe i've talked about this on the show have you go it's just like it's radio porn it is amazing i'm looking at these things are like could that be a tagline for tbtl radio porn really earned that um what is our what

is our rating where it says uh yeah uh whatever advisory or something yeah uh explicit rating oh explicit i i was i got obsessed with it may not be the same exact company but a version of this many well probably two three years ago because i really wanted to buy an old like kind of 19 like a mid-century looking radio but the you know what happened was i think i bought one at like a garage sale or i came in the possession of one and it was really cool but it didn't work and so i started to kind of just google around and then i found a similar website where the you know these people will basically go in and just completely and totally retrofit the inside so that it's just high-end super awesome functioning audio that looks very much of whatever era you want it to

look yeah this one is called um shelf underscore vintage and i'm looking at some zenith here and so not you know they they'll only make a few of these and then they'll say okay we got some more available and they get swiped up right away and again like this is too rich for my blood i mean maybe someday but like we just have more pressing needs right now but like you know this one i'm looking at is an old zenith that it just i mean i can't even tell you how cool it is and i think it's like it went

for like four hundred dollars or something yeah i did even i with my terrible financial decision making did not buy one of these but i was very close now what i've now been emailing you in the interim andrew uh are these ads that are being generated they're like the sort of on you know when you're looking for a product on amazon of course it's sort of algorithmically or i don't know what the term would be but it's always trying to push you sponsored things and i don't know if those are just things that amazon's getting a larger cut of or whatever but there's it's a real mess visually now if you just look for transistor radio and amazon you just get all this crap before you get to just like a link that's not sponsored or not something funky to actually look at a radio you might want to buy well i had just put transit because my thought was well you know andrew and i both struck out on under 15 transistor radios so maybe what i need to do is buy like a 30 transistor radio maybe there's something that's actually nicer um and more functional so i put in transistor radio and then the first thing that comes up is an ad for something called the greedio portable radio and the ad for the greedio portable radio is like i assume maybe a son hugging like an adult son like a guy who's like my age hugging his fairly elderly dad do you see this picture i just emailed you

no okay so you sent that to my um i sent it to your email account it's your email oh there it is okay yeah it is the weirdest

that is it is the weirdest ad for a radio like it's like basically

it's just so weird is it because like these two gentlemen bonded over baseball as kids or when he was when the young man when the younger adult was a kid and so now they're bonding this is the weirdest thing

i've ever seen except then the one i sent you right after that which is a different named radio product but clearly using the same whatever bizarre ad software

this one actually makes a little bit more sense so here you have um this you have three generations of goofballs in this one you have uh for the pronus for the pronus a man who i'm going to put in his 60s he is there with his adult son who i'm going to put it maybe this guy's like in his 50s with his adult son who's in his 20s or 30s his adult son is handing him a box a package a gift with a ribbon on it but the the grandpa can't see it because the grandson who is i'm going to put it like age 10 is crawling up behind the grandfather clamping his hands over his grandfather's eyes for a big surprise but i don't know that the ages of any of these folks really line up honestly it just ends up being a weird soup of maleness but this is what happens when you find a stranger

in the alps and you ask them to create like weird ad software which basically what these pictures are that we're looking at are just generic photos of like someone receives a thing they want right Because obviously the radio is not specific to the photo at all. It's a son, so like an adult son giving his older dad a package, a present, and then the grandson being like, guess what? I'm covering your eyes. So that's for anything. That is logged into some digital system somewhere. And then whatever your product is, I promise you a version of this picture exists where the dad, the older dad, is being given a sex toy. and they just slap this on all kinds of um yeah the radio gets the radio gets photoshopped into the corner right and the previous one that i sent you is definitely the same thing which is that one is probably called someone really likes a gift and is hugging someone yeah yeah and then in this case it's this other radio the gradio but it's like what nobody can what nobody can really account for when they write the whatever the software is that combines this all up at random is how out of place this particularly the two guys hugging around the radio like that is such

an overreaction to somebody giving you a radio by the way i decided you know let me just do this let me just type in here's literally what i wrote best transistor radios for baseball what do you think the very first result was grundig hand no vondior amfm battery operated it's the one that i bought and that's the thing some of these other ones look like they're battery operated transistors as well which would probably do me well but then this is where i get into and i think that you can associate the ones that look like they were made in 2001 are less appealing or i'm sorry 2022 what year is it are less appealing to me than this one which clearly like snagged me by having a

Thank you.

little bit of a retro look yes you know what i mean and also worked on me under another name known as power bear power bear which is also a name you worked under for a while i believe i did and um if people would like to find out about that i have a whole other podcast yes about my time as power bear but um all right hey we should take a quick break because i really do want to talk about this louis theroux rap song which i have been kind of just observing it kind of in real time and have been waiting for a chance to try to talk about it with you, Andrew. And then, well, the New York Times did it for me by writing an amazing article about it. So I want to get into that coming up on the other side of this break here on TBTL. Hello, and welcome to Top Story. All right, our top story, the unlikely rise of Louis Thoreau's, or as I've heard it said, Theroux, His rise as a rap star Now when I say I've heard his name as Theroux, Andrew It's only because his dad is this writer Named, I've heard it said Paul Theroux or Paul Theroux Who is He's a novelist He's a travel writer He wrote The Mosquito Coast Remember that movie? I don't, I don't think The Mosquito Coast, I think William Hurt might have been in that

Is that the one where everybody gets really old after they get stung By a mosquito? Yes, that's exactly the one. So you have seen it. Yeah, I have. My apologies. I was playing dumb for the audience.

But so Paul Thoreau, or Theroux, has a son named Louis, who has mostly done kind of interesting documentary film work. In fact, you know that show that I've been obsessed with on HBO, How To, with John Wilson?

Yeah.

He cites Louis Thoreau as like a real influence. Louis Thoreau is this, he went to Oxford, he's very sort of British, but he's also kind of, also in the, like, I would say the John Ronson mold, like of a person who is sort of going around trying to understand the world, often immersing themselves in cultures that they're not, you know, familiar with before that. And so I had like a 5% awareness of Louis Thoreau, but I just started seeing this thing on TikTok a few months ago where Louis Thoreau was being interviewed by a woman and she asks him if he ever rapped. And this is the thing that I started hearing a few months ago. So basically the story on that little song was one of the things that Louis Theroux did when he was doing his documentary show was he went to try to learn, I guess, about basically hip hop culture. And he hung out with like Master P, like this was a, you know, mini documentary show. And I guess part of the bit Which I haven't seen but I think you have Andrew Part of the bit was Okay kind of nerdy white guy From England is going to Write a rap song and perform it And he actually was Had a couple of other writers Help him you know write this song He didn't write it himself Let's see I think the guys are called Reese and Bigelow A rap duo from Jackson Mississippi By the way this article in the Times is written by Stephen Curritz it's really good it is really good yeah um so as part of this documentary show that he was making they had this you know bit and so he he hires these actual people who really can write rap music reese and bigelow and they help him write this song um this that song i just played for you but but but just the spoken word part just like the kind of the lyrics of it and he performs it as part of the show now i haven't heard this tape you have this yeah can i actually play a little bit of this with

please i would love to hear it i'm gonna um air on the side of uh including as much of this as possible i can i can just for your sake luke i can uh you know tighten this up later if need be but uh this begins with the writing process so they're behind the scenes somewhere i'm guessing maybe in a radio station because later on they're going to be like kind of performing this on the radio live and he is just so charming so let's pick it up here they're kind of like trying to

get the lyrics down good track listen he's already got look he's already got something we got to make this loop it's all on me we gotta make this cheese it's all on me so we talked about making money that's making money that's not bad start yeah it's not a bad We've got to make this money. It's all on me. We've got to get this cheese. That's all we need. Riding in my fiat.

Looking for a B-Its. Now, Andrew, can you hit pause there real fast? Yeah. So maybe this gets revealed later in the tape, but one of the things I noticed in the Times piece that I didn't realize was at some point these actual rappers, these actual guys that can write rap music, asked him what kind of car he drove. Yeah.

Yeah.

Does that come up later? Well, that's why. Yeah. That's why they said he literally drives a Fiat at this point in his life.

and why the line is like six foot two in a fiat but that's okay i what is i can put the seat back

or something right no no but the best well the original that i have like really obsessed over the like the part that i played is the part that's been the most memefied on tiktok and riding in my fiat you really gotta see a yes that i think about that like many hours out of the day that particular line just courses through my brain and i think the funny part about it here

is the original lyric as it came from one of these actual writers. A little less Louis Thoreau appropriate. Exactly, a word that we don't say. And so he changes it and it's the most Louis thing to change it to. You really got to see it. Isn't it nice to have a Louis that we can actually stand behind culturally again? That's a good point. I really love this guy's manner because he's so shy and awkward, but also he's so game. Like later on, he does go on the radio and rap this and it's just, here, I'm going to pick it up kind of where we just left off i love that he just changed he suggests he says i can't say that and then he changes it to see you really got to see it and you could tell which is also

definitely a slant rhyme at best right he looks like so like he knows it's funny like he's giving them a knowing look like are we really gonna go with this dorkiest rhyme in the world looking for biatch

I don't think I can say biatch right in with my feet

we want to do more

that's good

that is good stuff okay now they're on the radio I'm going to let this go a little bit further because I find this charming I'm totally into this by the way this is good it's like the host of the show I don't know who this is this isn't one of the guys who was writing this with him it's another guy and he's clearly like kind of in the host position in this radio station, and they're kind of doing that thing. And you and I have seen a lot of this too, Luke, when you have various shows in Chicago, New York. Yeah, the big term now, they call it ciphering. Right, yeah. That's the current way of describing basically freestyling. But of course, this is not freestyle. They've written it out, but it's kind of like that vibe. They're kind of rapping live on the air.

19, when I 15 wore a check for flavor as we go, a little something like this. I said, hey, are you all, what's the name? You're on the radio with your boy, Wowie.

Andrew. Yeah. Why are we listening to any radio that's not this ever in our life?

This is so compelling. It just feels so live. Oh, my God. Not to give it away, but there's a really good part that's coming. I thought you were going to have me stop it.

I thought you were going to say this is not working because. No, this is like this is so much better than many of the things that i waste my time listening to like just like you said the kind of authenticity of it the in the momentness of it also just the vibe generally and what's great

here is and i think you'll hear it but maybe it's best that i set it up is at one point the guy who's hosting and rapping looks at louis and louis starts rapping and then he chastises him he's He's like, no, no, no, you can't go before me.

All right, that was rapper number one. Rapper number two. My in-house guest all the way from London to BBC. It's Louie, and we're about to do this. And we go a little something like this.

I gotta hate this money. It's all on me. We gotta get this cheese. Louie. It's all we need. Louie.

I gotta make this money. Louie. Louie. You're supposed to let me do my part first. Oh, sorry. He's into this. He's into this. but that's good i gotta do my part are you ready you just said it goes a little something like listen here we go here we go i would have totally thought that meant it was time

if i heard it goes a little something like this i'd be like okay this is my yeah and i i again i know i'm glad it's working as audio but the physicality here is really just spot on too because he's like he you can tell like he's this isn't his comfort zone but he's also so game for it and he just like i can't explain how all of these guys are vibing off of each other and he's got this like total fish out of water thing but also a grin because he's just kind of like how

did i end up here but he's like here for it just listen here we go here we go i said hey are you

on the radio with your boy wow i gotta make this money it's all on me we gotta get this cheese It's all we need, I've got to make this money

on me louis recent big and the bbc my money doesn't jiggle jiggle it folds i want to see you wiggle wiggle for sure it makes me want to dribble dribble you know riding in my beard you really have to see it i'm six feet two in a compact no slack but luckily the seats go back i got a knack to relax in my mind i'm feeling fine and i'm sipping some red red wine

i mean it is amazing to watch him like he's clearly so nervous at first and then like he kind of stutters there and then when he has to get into his role he gets kind of his face gets serious he goes from having this big dorky grin to like okay get to work and so he starts rapping and his face gets really really serious and then after he starts to find his groove a little bit he loosens up a little bit and he starts dancing a little and like doing the like i'm driving in my fiat he's kind of like doing the steering wheel move or whatever the guy is so charming and just seeing all three of these guys together is i don't know man it's a blast i i'm really

really glad andrew that you actually delved into that because i was just kind of breezing through this article today and i didn't actually like get into that part of it but that's actually so fascinating so basically that happens the show you know that that documentary series that he did from the bbc does whatever it does and then netflix decides to re-release uh this series and so as louis theroux is doing a bunch of interviews to like re-promote i guess this like thing that he'd already done that already aired on the bbc a lot of people really zeroed in on this like the the episode where he was trying to learn about rap music and so people are asking him about it and in this one case this uh and the name of this particular show let me see here that he was on it was like a a podcast and like a video pod is it weird that it's still the idea that a podcast could also be video is strange to me andrew in considering that's probably much more the case than audio only podcasts at this point i mean yeah and even the fact that

yeah for a while we were even just like what is a podcast anymore can't we just call it all radio basically i was kind of on that train but now the video component definitely i feel like i need to

say it's a video podcast but for most people under the age of 40 it's like yeah what did you think it was yeah like he was on a show called chicken shop date it's a popular web talk show and he was being interviewed by a comedian named amelia uh demon oldenberg and so she just asked him obviously without any music at the time uh can you remember any of the rap that you did and then he just kind of launched into that part of that rap we just heard kind of acapella well then this like uh kind of um producing duo dj producers from manchester known as duke and jones just kind of like saw this little clip of louis theroux doing the rap and were like all right let's throw a beat under that and so they put that on their youtube account and then all of a sudden like this song starts becoming kind of a thing on tiktok musically but when it really took off where there's these two people, a woman named Jess Qualter and Brooke Blewett. They're like performing arts college graduates in England. They're 21. And they were making pasta. I'm reading directly from the New York Times here. They were making pasta, and they heard the song, this thing that I just played, this version.

The money of the rap that you did.

My money don't jiggle, jiggle. It folds. I'd like to see you wiggle, wiggle, for sure. So they're basically just cooking some pasta in their apartment. i'll say flat andrew to keep it no appropriate that see look at that i don't even remember is it called apartment what do they even call it the boot i put the flat in the boot they took the lift up to their flat yes exactly so they just decided to make up this dance which is a whole other have

you seen the dance andrew yeah yeah the kids the kids i call everybody kid now but yeah they're just like in their sweatpants like yeah it's very but that's tick tocky yeah right right which is

its whole own i mean the layers of the layers of the signifiers in terms of i don't know if signifier is even the right word but the layers of different kind of like memefied things things that people do like there's also a whole shtick where people will do dances typically women but not exclusively where they're in like a hoodie but the hoodie is pulled down so much you really can't see any of their face and they have sunglasses on and i think that what these what these women told the times later was they did this because they felt like they weren't really made up they didn't really want to be like have their face on tiktok but they had basically invented this little dance that they thought was really funny to this song so they put that up and then just immediately immediately became this like massive dance hit which if you if you want to take something to the next level on tiktok it's fine if there's some cool audio but if you put a cool visual over it like this dance which is actually very funny just like the dance is so good that like that just shot into the stratosphere yeah Yeah, and it's just a cute little kind of literal dance as the time points out. There's like when dribble, dribble. You're dribbling a basketball. You dribble a basketball, you know? There's a little steering wheel motion for the driving and the Fiat.

It's the kind of dance, Andrew, you and I would invent if we were cooking pasta. And we took 15 minutes to invent a dance, right?

Well, if you would win Rosenfeld. Because that's the thing. This is so far out of my comfort zone. I would never invent a dance, and I would never record myself dancing. I'm just like I am – it's just weird. It's just like not in my jean makeup at all. I just can't I just can't I can't loosen up that much and you know and also kind of doesn't appeal to me but I enjoy seeing this sort of like grassroots sort of stuff pop up on Instagram I think it's fun and I had another thought I can't remember what it is right oh I know well this is well when do I have to say this even it's like you said it blows up and it's all over the place which is great but then the second it's like the second it's on the Fallon show like I was clicking on all these links.

That's when you're not into Shakira dancing to it.

And by the way, I like Shakira. You are anti-Shakira.

I am not anti-Shakira. I'm anti the lyric. You're lucky that my breasts are small and humble so you don't confuse them with mountains. I don't love that line. I don't even. And I also don't love She-Wolf, the song She-Wolf.

But that doesn't mean I'm anti-Shakira. Hips Don't Lie is one of the songs that got me to listen to pop music something I literally never done in my life before is that in that Rihanna song SOS anyway I've told that too many times on the show but anyway it holds an important part in my in my musical growth so anyway I like Shakira okay I don't know and it's not even it's not like all of the layers of complexity with Fallon or the holdover from election bullshit or whatever like I just generally just do not like it like I'm clicking on all of these videos going back to this documentary of him like just vibing with these guys in a studio and having legit fun on the air to these young women in their flat, just making this thing that everything that just like an apartment. Well, let me get out my torch and look at my notes. But anyway, I, you know, I just like all of this. And then by the time it reaches the Fallon thing, it's like Fallon, I click on the link and the times that takes me right to it. And it's kind of like he's already laughing. Like, it's no fair. I can't dance as well as Shakira and putting on this whole, I can't dance on TV. even though you're jimmy kim have i been saying kimmel this whole fucking time i think you've been saying fallon okay sorry i just said kim i let us i let a kimmel and an f word slip in there sorry it's late is there ever a time a day we could do the show where i don't have an excuse well luke it's early on a monday well luke it's late on a friday yeah i believe we're not doing

this at 8 30 a.m because we were trying to wait on a wednesday what do you expect of me no i have i told you that story have i this is getting deeply personal but this is what happens when i'm half uh one and a half glasses of red red wine and my uh you know i never met my biological father but i have met my aunts his sisters and they're have i told you the story that they would tell about him old jimmy they were like so he would he was a real by all accounts he wasn't a super industrious person and he was allegedly in roofing for a while but my uh i guess my aunt you'd say uh patsy she's he who he was living with was like one day she was like one day i i came out you know and it was like a stormy day and i said jim why are you on the couch and he was oh it's too terrible uh it's too uh cold to go outside and roof and then another time it was a really really really hot day and i said jimmy why are you on the couch it's too hot to go out and roof and then One day it was just beautiful. It was like 70 degrees. She goes, Jimmy, why are you on the couch? He goes, oh, it's too beautiful to go out and roof. There was no scenario in which this guy wanted to go out and actually do any roofing.

Yeah. Exactly.

That's you with us, with our podcast.

No, I'm happy to be here. And actually, I just said Kimmel instead of Fallon. They both have the first name. They're late night hosts. Come on. Cut a guy a break. No. But anyway, yeah, there was just something about like Jimmy Fallon doing the false humility. It was like, oh, and just like seeing it on that stage, that that was the only time in this thing where I'm just like, oh, gross. I don't know.

Well, it did hit that kind of, I don't know what you'd call it, frequency or sort of updraft. And so that certainly, so Shakira did a dance on Fallon, as you mentioned. And then, like, then the interesting thing, too, is how it sort of has boomeranged back around. so what happened was the the the production team uh duke and jones that had made the the original one this one the little kind of quick viral one that i that i keep playing here let's see if i can oh you know i have this muted um they then wanted to because they were the ones that really injected this into the pop culture in a certain way by putting the beat under it and everything so they went back to louis theroux and they were like would

Could you actually record the song again for us in a slightly longer version so we can release this as a track on Spotify and actually make money on it? And so this is this is a little bit of that version.

Duke and Jones. Jiggle, jiggle. My money don't jiggle, jiggle. It falls. I like to see you wiggle, wiggle for sure. It makes me want to dribble, dribble, you know, riding in my fear. You really have to see it.

I feel like he's starting to cheat now. He's not saying Fiat correctly.

He's saying Fiat. Nobody's calling it Fiat, Louis. No slack. But luckily the seats go back. I've got a knack to relax in my mind. Sipping some red, red wine. Now here's an interesting thing about that.

Yeah. If you didn't bring it up, I would have. This is fascinating.

So they had re-recorded this whole thing and had this track ready to go. and probably sensed accurately that there was a lot of money in it for this thing to get out there to the world ASAP. But the whole process was held up because the Red Red Wine thing is, of course, a Neil Diamond song. Red Red Wine. I don't think I need to sing it. Actually, that was not the worst Neil Diamond version of that either. Do you know my awareness of the song Red Red Wine, of course, was from UB40, Labor of Love 2. Of course, yeah. Yeah, when I found out that Neil Diamond did a version of that song, I was shocked. And yet when you think about it, it sounds very Neil Diamond-y. Like if you can separate the UB40-ness of it from your sense of the song, it does kind of make sense. It's very in Neil Diamond's kind of vibe. But so they had this song all ready to go, like to re-release it, and they were waiting on Neil Diamond, or at least his publishing company or whoever represents him to sign off on it and the thing i had seen i don't think that's even in this times piece but somewhere else it was like the night they were dropping the song and they got an email from neil diamond's people saying neil is fine with this and then they hit like publish they were gonna do it anyway i don't know if they were going to do it it was basically the holdup was neil neil i mean maybe the maybe the outcome was going to be they couldn't do it they actually could they needed neil diamond to sign off on it or they were gonna get in one of those situations like the rolling stones and verve bittersweet symphony like if they were to release this without the kind of contract from neil diamond saying it was okay they were just setting themselves up to get none of the money later

and the most interesting part of that whole thing i think is that neil diamond is credited as one of

the writers of the song as are the two like dudes that knew master p in mississippi oh right because

they were the lyricist so it's like yeah it's the two lyricists it's the two djs it's our boy louie and neil diamond right those are all the people credited on the song yeah which is like

those are the like honestly the the guys in mississippi are the guys i'm kind of the most

stoked for sure yeah although i don't know where they are in their career i don't know if they well i haven't heard of them so that means they're probably not that famous i haven't heard of these southern rappers um yeah i'm not sure if they're like writers you know what i mean if they're kind

behind the scenes more or not and maybe and maybe they're set for life but but the my guess would be that this is not a bad windfall sure for some people and i love that this is something where everyone it would appear knock wood that everyone who had any meaningful input on the song by the way neil diamond being lowest on the list yeah he shouldn't have i don't that's

weird like actual writing i mean listen it worked out who cares it's fine but like think about

saying the word red red wine on a song and now you now someone has to shunt four million dollars

to neil diamond right and well it's kind of funny i mean listen louis thoreau's whole thing from everything that i've watched and and now read in this article and everything is he's just like he's a super charming humble guy right very kind of flappable and whatever but like he really leans into it obviously it's a bit of his character but it is so cute hearing him talking about like his son first of all i was going to say that like yes trust me the only money we've made off of this just jiggle jiggles right now it does not fold like it's not folding money yet right right and then um i'm looking for the actual quote but it's driving him he says it's driving his son crazy i

believe he says something like my stank is all over my son's tiktok feed or something like yes

and it drives its son crazy, according to him.

Yeah, no, this is 100% the best reaction. First of all, I think this interview for The Times is one of the few interviews that Louis Thoreau has done about this, which seems like a bad planning because if he went to the trouble of re-recording the track, you might as well make it as popular as you can get. But this is exactly how we would all, I think, sort of hope somebody would handle it when they're thrust into an unexpected moment of viral fame, which is Louis Thoreau seems to have exactly that.

the right perspective on first of all this is not even what he does and he says that many times he's like i wish this were closer to something i do like i don't have anything to promote off of this because like i don't have a bunch of other silly raps he says it's not like i have a catalog and

like now i can release now i can release all of my other novelty rap fragments he said i'm clearly not going to tour it come see mr jiggle himself it would be a 20 second long gig he's he's uh

embodying his son here when he says, why is my dad the most cringe guy in the universe everywhere on TikTok, Mr. Thoreau said, giving voice to his son's reaction. Quote, I've left my stank all over his timeline. I think it's made him very confused and slightly resentful.

Yeah, no, I mean, and it also must be a little bit of a weird thing because this guy, Louis Thoreau, was not certainly he wasn't unknown and he wasn't, you know, my guess would be in the uk he's really pretty well known and popular but to just work really hard on a whole career be like you and i doing this we are by the way not popular but like doing something like this for years and years and years and then some like the barabajaggle the like marsupial gurgle andrew just gets caught in an updraft of virality yeah where suddenly it's like there's a song and then you know you're just like walking down the street and someone's like bopping to it and like it just has gone totally out of your control yeah that must be such a weird experience for him to put so much of his life and an effort into a certain kind of media production and a certain kind of you know way of being in the public world and then this little silly thing that he just said one time in an interview will probably be the thing that he is now the most known for for the

rest of his life oh that's yeah yeah potentially that's interesting although i will say this in all seriousness and it doesn't always work this way um this has been me just reading this new york times article and then wanting to go back to the source material which led you know all that stuff i played for you in the studio with these rappers when they were like in the radio studio that was actual footage from his show from his episode we i think made that pretty clear and it made me want to watch the show like to a degree this must be some decent promotion for his back catalog and And if we hear about a documentary that's produced by him, I think it might stand out to me more than it would before. I certainly didn't know his name before.

Yeah, that's a really good point. And not that he had any control over this or was trying to make this the case, but it is not bad for his other stuff that he does that he has for a matter of a couple of weeks been kind of like the most famous rap person on – maybe not the most famous rap person on the internet. But it could definitely draw some attention to the things that he really does care about and has really put time into. Yeah. Are you up on this whole Kate Bush situation?

All I know is Kate Bush had it. Here's what I know. And I didn't click on your links. I've just been kind of absorbing this. So tell me if I'm right. She has a song that's featured in the latest season of Stranger Things. And so that took a song that's like 35 years old or 40 years old and it made it chart again, whatever that means in this day and age. And now she's having a moment, and a lot of people are writing about her. That's what I know.

Yeah, you nailed it. All right, well, let's get to Magic Street Weekend.

What's the song, though? I don't even know the song.

Running Up That Hill.

See, I don't, let me, yeah, I guess we can't really play something. Oh, you know this song.

Can you find it?

Play a little bit. Can I play a little bit of it? Okay, let me do this. I'm not ready for this, so you have to vamp for me running up this hill.

So, see, I forget how it was that, I mean, Running Up That Hill was, i think it might have been in the top 30 in the u.s when it came out but it was the name kate bush i believe that kate bush was on the soundtrack of pump up the volume and i can't remember if it was this song or something interesting because i loved that soundtrack but only my friend sean had it the first time i ever saw the name kate bush it was associated with the soundtrack of pump up the volume which played like a weird ad either before or after the movie when you rented it on vhs it may have even preceded the movie like you know like you're about to watch pump up the volume but now there's this like slickly produced ad that's like get the songs from pump up the volume was like i think it was like um uh blonde redhead michelle shock concrete blonde

not blonde redhead that's the one that i know because they did a um they did a cover of the um everybody knows everybody knows by um leonard cohen i was blanking on that for a second such An ominous song again first version Of that song I knew was concrete Blonde I later find out not too much Later but I later find out as a high Schooler like oh that was a Leonard Cohen song I think that was my introduction to Leonard Cohen in fact so

Anyway I could be wrong But I think that Kate Bush Was on the pump up the volume Soundtrack now I'm not seeing

That and I'm not seeing it as a song maybe I'm also probably thinking of another film

I might have been thinking of Michelle shock to I think was on there But anyway This This

For some reason, this song, Running Up That Hill, I was really aware of it in the 80s, and I always thought it was really cool and kind of underrated. And then as I've gotten more into Cocteau Twins, which has kind of a similar vibe of a really strong female voice, and then it gets weird and operatic really fast, but in a kind of cool way. So I've always sort of had a thought about this Running Up That Hill song. It's now number one on the UK singles chart. Number one. Because it's the number one song in the UK, and I think it's number three in America right now because it's in Stranger Things.

Which I kind of gave up. Don't. Oh, do you think that your nieces are listening? I'm going to say something. I gave up on Stranger Things, I think, after the second season. I was just between us. They don't listen to the shows where I'm tipsy. Okay, good. I was pretty disappointed by the second season. I know that they were up against it with a timeline and trying to capture the magic before the kids got too old or whatever. But like I felt that I could feel the rush job on that. And I was highly disappointed in season two. So I never I don't even know if I knew there was a season three. And now you have season four and it's launching. And by the way, I say all of that is just like that was my taste. Like if you love it, you love it. That's great. But now suddenly like Stranger Things four is out. Apparently it's got some star making power or restart remaking power.

It is a it's a big hit in my family. Certainly. I know that Maddie and Marion, my sister Hannah, will not stop texting about it in Hawk Squad. But I think because it's set in the 80s, they try to make the music, obviously, appropriate to the era. But I just think it's a very cool thing that, again, everything today comes back to TikTok. But I didn't even know that Running Up That Hill was in Stranger Things. But I noticed, like, three or four weeks ago, people putting up memes of, like, their cat doing something over Running Up That Hill. Do you know what my brain told me Oh that must be in Stranger Things Like I literally did the math I was like okay this song is This song is not age appropriate For most of the people that are on TikTok Or at least they did not come up in the era when this was happening What is out right now That is 80s adjacent Or based in the 80s Stranger Things Why is this happening on so many videos I'm seeing And it's like and then I googled it I felt very satisfied to see that it was in fact Something they were using on Stranger Things

Yeah, I didn't even see you, you knew that Stranger Things was, well, because of your family No, I didn't Oh, really, you just

No, no, no, I'm saying what happened was, I started seeing the Kate Bush song show up as the soundtrack of a bunch of unrelated videos on TikTok So a thing where someone's doing something, and then Kate Bush is playing Either they're, like, dancing around in their living room, or their cat's doing something I just, Kate Bush, this song by Kate Bush was re-entering the pop culture And I was like something's going on here This did not just happen totally accidentally And I was like I bet you this is related To Stranger Things

And not even knowing that there was a new Stranger Things out You mean because I didn't know there was a new one out I think I knew there was one because my family Okay that's what I was saying a second ago That's all I meant was like I understood your story I just meant that like The reason I know there's a Stranger Things Season 4 out Is because I heard the headline that Kate Bush's song Is blowing up the charts thanks to the newest season Of that show Which at that time I was like I didn't even know That show was I thought that show Was just done I had no idea Things can always

Get stranger Andrew That is true

There's always another Tagline

Do you want to play A little bit of the song Oh sure And see if you recognize it

Yeah let me I'm sure I will Here I don't Let's see we can play Oh that's all I can play But yeah I think No just I recognize it

Oh yeah

Yeah I mean I've heard this Yeah yeah yeah I've heard that yeah I do want to be careful though I don't want another another especially if it's so popular right now that'll get us pulled but um yeah I know that song yeah anyway I just

gave me an odd amount of joy to see all of these and I'm sure Maddie and Mary uh are probably like super into this song now and stuff like just to see like a song that I always thought was pretty cool and again slightly underrated over here um to see it just kind of like find a whole new generation of people and then have them just getting super into it i thought it was kind of nice it's like the internet doing something i mean i know it's stranger things really doing it but like the overall community experience around this song the last couple weeks just feels to me like

it's been very positive yeah i um uh i feel like that's what i experienced with like with my generation like um kirk hobain introducing me to like david bowie songs that i didn't know existed By you know doing them unplugged And then being like what and then also I mean Nirvana did so many covers like What the Vaseline's what are the Vaseline's You know and he would shine a light on them Then I would go back and explore

Or he'd be like wearing a t-shirt like the hi how are you And he'd be like what's that and then you Find out it's Daniel Johnson

and you know like he was he was really kind of yet turning me on to a lot of things that i would have never known about do you know um in this chuck klosterman book that we i interviewed him last night for livewire that on the same day in i think 1991 um nirvana never mind blood sugar sex magic and the low end theory by tribe were all released on the same day no shit really

That was a big day for music.

Yeah, it was. What was the first one again? Nirvana. Oh, okay.

Jeez, Louise. No, I had no idea.

Wow. I know. And also, that was back in the day when albums were always released on a Tuesday for some reason. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Do you remember that? Yes.

And that lasted a bit into the internet age. Now it's kind of like nobody knows when anything's going to drop. They tease it, and they tease it. Then suddenly, it's like you wake up, and it's like, I learned about the new Drake dropping yesterday. I know more about this new Drake album Just from people reacting to it I have not heard one single note But I know it's boring and not worth my time Because that's what everybody was tweeting about yesterday

Really? I was seeing that Drake had won Like a three-on-three basketball tournament And he was calling himself The LeBron of three-on-three basketball That was the thing two days ago That he was in the news for And then the next day it was dropping his latest album Alright, as if we have not talked about enough music on today's episode let's do a little music for your weekend uh before we get out of here i assume

you've got some drake to play yeah actually i was going to play a song tell me if you've heard of this song it's an older song it's called running up that hill just joking i was more of a cloud busting guy i am going to play an old song though um i don't know i you don't you probably don't need a reason why we should probably just play the song and get out of here but um i was a fan of the smoking popes at least one album by them that i knew pretty well in high school i think

they've come up a lot on the show actually have they of late yeah because uh we've played a smoking pope song yeah i mean not maybe maybe not as music for your weekend but just in the conversation and i feel like they were there was a recent moment where where for some reason they were too i mean they might have been touring with sublime or something oh they did did you

mention they got back together or something because smoking popes are interesting they're like this little you know power punk trio or trio i want to say trio i could be wrong about that But then they, I don't know if it was just the lead singer Most of them were Christian And then they rebranded or they kind of reconfigured As a band called Duval And it sounded very much like the Smoking Popes Only you could just sort of tell that maybe You know, if it was a song in the second person Maybe the you they were talking about was Jesus But it wasn't, you know I still found it very listenable and interesting But yeah, my friend Pauly, who you know, Luke And who I mention a lot on the show Got me into the Smoking Popes I believe in high school Probably because they have a song about Paul There are several bands that have songs There are very few bands that have songs about Andrews About a person named Paul Yeah, exactly Not specifically Paul It's not about Paul Bugala, no I think it's okay for me to say his full name But anyway Paulie's Boutique by Beastie Boys was about him Paulie's Boutique, which was my version It was a track-by-track response Where I centered my friend Paul in every one of them But anyway, this is the first track Off of the album Born to Quit And I don't know what put me in the mood for this The other day, a couple of weeks ago I was just like, I need to hear that record And I put on the first song And I'm not saying this is the best song off the record I'm just saying it's the first song off the record And the second I hit play on it It took me to a certain time So take a listen

We'll be right back. I don't know if I said the name of it, but you said it several times.

It's called Midnight Moon is the name of that song.

The smoke. Now I'm going to drive myself crazy trying to remember who. the smoking popes were opening or were playing with a different band that we were talking about

their tour oh with jawbreaker maybe oh that might be it because jawbreaker is touring how let's just

do a quick news i believe that we were you know it might might have been music for your weekend where somebody was suggesting jawbreaker and then i think the smoking popes or duval or whatever they're called now we're playing with them at a couple of different of their events and i was like oh and i i suddenly

had a little smoking pope's you know intel to work with i'm looking here yeah but i that that sounds about right because i do think that people were pretty excited that um jaw box either is or was touring jawbreaker jawbreaker sorry oh it was jawbreaker not jawbox i always get jawbreaker okay I get those guys confused.

I think was Jawbox, they were from, were they from Seattle? No, there was a band called Hammerbox from Seattle that I was into. A lot of kind of aggressive first word, second word box bands circulating in a certain time

during the 80s and 90s. God, I kind of forgot that I get those guys confused. Yeah, Jawbox versus Jawbreaker, right. Okay, all right.

The song I would like to play is by the Delphonics, and I just heard this somewhere in a bar and was like, this is so good. Let me Shazam it. And I did my low-key Shazam where nobody knows that I don't know the song that I'm trying to find out the name of. And what's interesting is that this is the song is trying to make a fool of me. And it's off of the same album that has Didn't I Blow Your Mind This Time. One of my favorite songs. So this was the third studio album by the Delphonics. I believe it was eponymously named, and it was, it peaked at number 61 on the Billboard 200, which made it the most successful album of their career, which is also kind of wild to think about, and that this is a song that I would guess, you haven't heard, Andrew, I hadn't heard until earlier this week, most of the listeners haven't heard, it's like the sixth track on the album, and in my opinion, it's so good, and it speaks to just like how much great music was being generated by this they were part of the what was called the philly sound so they were like kind of you had motown going on obviously in detroit and then in philly you had sort of like the philly sound and that was where the delphonics were associated with i was also surprised that this is 1970 because i don't know why i a name like the delphonics feels kind of 60s yeah me too but this was this was i mean it was barely 1970 It was February 1st of 1970 But this is, I just think, such a great song Considering it's not even the main song on the album So can you play a little bit of it?

We'll be right back. We'll be right back. all right so uh little delphonics i have a feeling if there's something that's going to

get us pulled weirdly it could be a random delphonics potentially yes somebody whoever's handling the estate of the delphonics or over their philly groove record label has like set the search function on high

alert. Yeah, I feel like it's either like classic stuff or brand new stuff. The only stuff I feel usually really comfortable playing these days is if it's a brand new release so that we can kind of talk about it being a brand new release. We're adding some journalism to the whole thing. Yeah, so I don't know what I'm allowed to do.

I remembered where I heard this song actually, Andrew, and it is a place... Uh-oh. Can you still hear me, by the way? This cat just knocked the internet over. I mean, literally knocked over the router. Hey, Bubbles, Can you not do that, please? I actually heard this song at a place I discovered last week here in Portland that, like, so many cool places you discover, it's bittersweet because you walk into somewhere and you go, like, how have I not been aware of this? And then the very cool bartender says, it's turning into condos in two months. This place is called Sloan's Tavern. okay now if you're i don't know if you're near a computer andrew but can you just google sloan's tavern portland and tell me the first thing that you see yeah googling it now the very first thing

that i see is you just want me to um

um click on the first link or just what i see on the google i think any image search will

will deliver the most iconic feature of sloan's tavern in portland oregon i'm seeing an image of

um i don't think the semi truck oh yeah is that a semi truck it's but it's like a drawing i'm seeing a drawing of a semi truck is it actually part of the infrastructure yeah so if you get

if you end up seeing a picture of a photo of it so basically this family the sloans uh for like going on 70 years or something had this auto body repair shop and then there was a little diner on the corner that i think probably like 30 or 40 years ago came up for sale and so they bought the diner because the mom had a bunch of recipes and so she became in in charge of the diner and because they had this old front of a semi-truck sitting around like mr sloan thought well let's glue that to the front of the building because that'll be a that'll bring some people and that's kind of eye-catching and the inside of this bar and diner and which is the thing that's great about it's only open until until 10 o'clock and it's not open on the weekends so as far as trying to be a bar in Portland goes they have they've not gone with the normal kind of standard operating hours but like the the Mr. Sloan has passed a long time ago mrs sloan the mom the matriarch she's the grandmother i think she's 95 and she still cooks there every day and they have not changed one thing about the um decor inside from like 1970 whatever when they expanded to this little thing and it is like this little like booth with

stools coming out from like a a round window oh my god it is the most like perfect time capsule

of that era and i just like wandered into it the other day and was just completely and totally obsessed immediately and then very crestfallen to hear that uh it's going to be turned into mixed-use condos soon but um you know it's i guess it's going to be around until they think march of 2023 so if you happen to make your way down to portland before then i think this is a

place we need to go check out i think you would yeah yeah this looks amazing closing all right

Yeah, our listener suggestion is from our friend Stacy up in Bellingham. Hi, Luke and Andrew. You know how sometimes you randomly come across a song from a band you've never heard of, and then it's like the only thing you play over and over for days? Well, Speeding 72 by Mama grabbed me like that a few weeks ago. It's reminiscent of the late 1990s faves like Veruca Salt. I bet it's right in Andrew's wheelhouse. When I saw the Veruca Salt reference, Andrew, is when I thought, this is a good choice this week you're gonna like this uh also highly recommend their song medicine uh if either strikes your fancy consider it my nod for potential music for your weekend cheers so um i don't know what do you want to go with uh uh speeding 72 since that's the first

sure yeah i don't know either one of them but uh i'm into this so this is a this is a um contemporary band that has a retro sound from the 90s or this is a yes okay gotcha yeah great

That listener, Stacey, happened upon but is now obsessed with. Awesome. All right. That's going to bring us to the end of our broadcast week. Thank you so much, everyone, for hanging out with us. I sure hope that a lot of you are somewhere that's the right amount of warm. Like where we are, where Andrew and I are, is too cold and too rainy, but then a lot of people are in areas that are too hot. I hope some of our listeners are in the Goldilocks range right now.

Where you're just mowing your lawn and weeding and listening to a ball game that's not the Mariners. God bless you.

Listen to a ball game of a team that can hit above 220 for average. Our batters don't jiggle jiggle. They fold, sadly, under the pressure of competent pitching. All right. Thanks for listening, everyone. We'll see you on Monday. Until then, have a great weekend. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

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