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#3727 Chart Of Escalation
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3727 Chart Of Escalation

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

July 14, 2022 | 01:09:28 | Leisure, Comedy

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Andrew learns something shocking about his own past. And an article in the New York Times helps Luke understand how he became a pathological liar (JUST KIDDING).
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Through our ceremonies and our rituals, we have witnessed firsthand the awesome and vibratory power of color. We experience it as alive, and we believe that this saturated energy is the basis of all creation.

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this is not an occult science this is not one of those crazy uh systems of divination and astrology that stuff's hooey and you got to have a screw loose to go in for that sort of thing arts our beliefs are fairly commonplace and simple to understand humankind is simply materialized color operating on the 49th vibration you would make that conclusion walking down the street or going to the store tbtl love it or hate it it appears to be another irreversible step

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along mankind's journey toward god only knows what hey i've learned a lesson here but i hope

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you all have too about the vitality of shared experience we will all remember this moment for the rest of our lives it was dramatic it was visual it was stupid it was stupid but it was also theater this is the real thing this is the necessary art of our time this needs respect

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okay are we done with the business part i wanted to start the clown portion of the meeting all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a thursday edition of tbtl the show

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just might be too beautiful to live this song goes out to all the coffee lovers of the world

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my name is luke burbank i'm your host your voice is like a combination of fergie and jesus coming to you from the hollywood broadcast center right here in portland oregon on a beautiful thursday oh ma pa it's just beautiful although i will say i was out on a walk yesterday with becca and it had been in the 90s early in the week and then all the reports on the radio were were returning to comfortable temperatures it will merely be in the 80s but it was roasting yesterday maybe my My blood is too thick for even 80 degrees. There's hot tacos out there, but we made it through. And now I am bringing you episode 3727 in a collector series.

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Let the fun begin.

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I'm playing a dangerous game, Dano. I've allowed the cat to be in the broadcast center.

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Kittens, inspired by kittens.

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which i've sort of stopped doing recently because she does climb up on the sit stand desk that i use and it has all the audio equipment on it but she has been on such a tear lately that i felt like i needed to try to give her some extra distraction so i've got the laser pointer and i'm gonna be spending some amount of my mental energy while doing the show shining this laser light on things to try to keep her entertained and when i say a tear i mean there's now a table here in my apartment that's just like a triage center it's just covered in things that are broken that she destroyed that i'm going to try to glue back together including this very cool mid-century pottery bird that becca got me and also a cat toy that's like a little kind of wand that's on a little random kind of orbit motor so that it waggles around it jiggle jiggles and folds and kind of a random thing with a feather on it it keeps her entertained she broke it she did she like disassembled the whole thing with her fervor so anyway i'm going to try to fix all of that first though of course we got to get to today's episode and get to the top stories including the topic of one meryl streep a recognized master in

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the art of acting you know it's just living truthfully in imaginary circumstances and

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And apparently, according to Amanda Hess, who wrote this really cool piece in the New York Times, there is no one who can take glasses, put them on and take them off for more dramatic effect than Meryl Streep. So we will dig into that a little bit. Also, speaking of the New York Times, there was a guest essay in the Times yesterday by a guy who said growing up poor turned him into a compulsive liar. Lying is like 95 percent of what I do. And I will tell you, there were elements of his piece that really resonated with me. So we will discuss that, time permitting. Also, it's a Blur's Day, a.k.a. a Thursday. It's my birthday today. So we'll do the Blur's Day messages. We'll do all that with the help of this guy, Longstreet and Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. To me... An innocent champion of honesty. That's what he is. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke. Now, wait just a gold darn minute here. All right.

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I'm sitting here while you're doing your intro and I'm casually scrolling through the TBTL Slack page and I just stumbled on something that was posted a couple of days ago. I guess I should check in more often. That was posted a couple of days ago that is blowing my GD mind. Before I read the post, let me reiterate something I've said on this show. I think I've been saying this for years now, and it is the probably somewhat uninteresting story of my evolution from TBTL fan to TBTL co-host. I'll keep it brief. There were three main components of this. Once I moved to Seattle, having listened to the show as a podcast in New Hampshire for a year or so, I reached out to you. I said, could I come visit the station at some point and watch you guys do the show? We're public radio brethren. in you said sure come by uh that was the first time i met you first time i met jen it was me and genevieve there together and we just sat quietly in the studio while you guys did your show i believe jesse thorne was a guest that night uh via the phone and there was at one moment you couldn't think of a pixie song and i whispered it in the background and you were like you can use your words go ahead and use your words or something along those lines oh no really that's no no no no you were being you were being nice you were just saying like go ahead and say it i I was being so public radio-y. I was like, it's wave of mutilation or something. I don't know what it was.

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I often whisper wave of mutilation quietly when in public spaces. I've been asked to leave a lot of Tully's coffees. Yeah.

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I've had to leave the children's section of a library or two for muttering wave of mutilation under my breath. No, but there was something, you know, I was being so public radio about it. You're like, you can talk, like say it, whatever it was, it was something Pixies related. So that's my first memory is like the very, very, very first time I was on TBTL, quote unquote, on TBTL would have been when it was still a radio show. And I whispered something in the background after hanging out with you guys for like the last two and a half hours of the show or whatnot. Then years later, you and I are working together as colleagues at Cairo Radio on a totally different show. But I had written a runaway note as a child that my mom had just sent. Yes. That week this is going back to probably 2011 or something like that and she had just sent it to me and I obviously I remembered running away from home for those four hours or whatever it was I'd remembered leaving a note it was a painful memory for me but I had not seen the note since I was a child and there I was at my desk reading this scanned PDF of my child scrawled runaway note and it blew my mind and my memory is you and Jen asked me to come on the show to talk about that and then the third time I was on the show as a guest.

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And I want to say that was, that was, that remains a big part of the lexicon of the show because I believe you wrote in that note, I don't like being hollered at. And we say that a lot on the show. In fact, I kind of forgot that that's the origin of that. I say that in my life all the time. You know I don't like to be hollered at. Right. And in fact, you know, I hope it's okay that I share this. I was on a walk yesterday with Becca and she was relating something happened in a work meeting where something got kind of tense. and I texted her later and I said, hey, I'm really sorry that you got hollered at. That doesn't sound like that was really fair. And that's just a direct quote from you. Like, I don't think I had ever used the term getting hollered at until I heard about that note. But now it's like part of my personal lexicon as well.

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Oh my God. I just did a quick Google search and I found the note again because I have it. Not a Google search, I'm sorry, a Gmail search. And I found the note and it's just like, again, the scrawled child handwriting. It is so heartbreaking. Mom, I'm off to find someone who I can tell a problem to without them hollering at me. I love you, Andy. P.S., I'm referring to yesterday. I mean, oh, Andrew. That breaks my heart more than I remember. Anyway, I did. Because basically what happened to him. Years later, I found you, Luke,

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and I can tell my problems to you without you hollering. And we monetized all the trauma. years later i was able to monetize the trauma through a podcast wasn't the wasn't the issue i'm probably confusing stories but there was one time where you were kind of being bullied and you finally kind of fought back on the guy and then you got in trouble and i know that was obviously a point of frustration because you were just sticking up for yourself was that what this note referred to or was this an unrelated thing in my head that was all tied up

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in the same era and maybe like the same kind of drama of the moment and i can't remember exactly what it was but i remember feeling that because yeah it was tied up with this kid patrick who lived down the street from me and he was a nerd too and he was someone who was bullied a lot too but then one day he turned on me and it's kind of like wasn't there supposed to be like kind of a code amongst nerds or the bullied that it's like you don't get to bully me you're patrick like you're worse than

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me in this nerdom thing and so he started like doing something to me I don't know physically I don't know you hit me or something and then me somebody who's never fought before just kind of like as you always described I'm like okay are we doing this fine I just just punched him directly in the face and like gave him like a black eye and a bloody nose or something like that and so of course his dad dragged him to my house like a cut that later that night or whatever and I got in trouble and I was like I'm finally standing up for myself but like I didn't know that like okay hey, if somebody's punching you in the arm, maybe you escalate to the stomach.

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You just don't haul off and smash them in the face of the playground.

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I consider that to be a lesser Pixie song, Chart of Escalation.

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Write that down. I'll make that the show title. Show title. Chart of Escalation.

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Anyway, so back to TBTL. So first time was me whispering Pixie stuff to you off mic. The second time, actually invited on to talk about The Runaway Note. Third time, I believe, you and Jen invited me on, again, kind of the same era, to talk about my job as a telemarketer, which I had in college. And you guys thought that was kind of an interesting job, so we talked about it. Was it Country Life or Field & Stream? Field & Stream is one I will refer to a lot, but I worked for EBSCO Telemarketing Company, and we would try to get people to renew all kinds of subscriptions. there was a motorcycle magazine there was town and country there were a whole bunch and again not cold call selling it would be like hey we see that your subscription to field and stream magazine has lapsed and be like yeah it lapsed like seven years ago we were like well we have a special offer for you click anyway so that that was me that's my version of events my own past not even that long ago. You know, this is going back to 2011. So 10 years or so. So Lisa in Florida posts to Slack says, I've been searching through episode archives, and I can't seem to find a couple of really early episodes with Andrew when he came on as a guest, the episode where he talked about his telemarketing job, and the one where he talked about getting hollered at and running away from home. Can anybody help me? Megan in Wallingford, neighborhood of Seattle, writes in here's the link and it looks like it's the same episode in my i know this isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things oh but in my head that was i had been on three times before i eventually until you asked me to actually do it the walsh had crowed thrice yes but he was hired as the co-bro so my whole memory of being in a studio with you and jen and sean a couple of times To talk about these two different aspects of my life That was one event Which is kind of the opposite of how my brain usually works Usually I will take a couple of events and conflate them You know what I mean? Because they're all from the same period of time And so I'll give them the John Hughes high school movie treatment And just kind of make it a lifetime in a day But in this case I split out one experience into two And I was just simply inaccurate And now I sort of regret bringing this up

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I think it was only I remember let me take this even further into esoterica I and you know me I don't remember anything but I remember I think the studio we were in when we talked about that getting hollered at note because this was I don't think we I think we were fired from the radio at that point but we were still recording at Cairo yeah you and Jen some sort of access now maybe I was I don't know if I was doing Ross and Burbank again you were because I was working there at the time so you were okay yeah so we were in that in that studio that was like you know kind of a few door a couple doors down from where the radio stuff happened and we would we sort of had that blocked out every afternoon for some period of time and i just remember that's where we were recording but i would have absolutely agreed that those were two different events because they seem really unrelated honestly uh-huh yeah you pitching field and stream and also you getting hollered at those seem like those would be discrete events uh at least things that we would talk about On different episodes but that was all the same thing Interesting and here somebody else

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Has said oh also they talk about how Excited they are that Louis CK

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Is coming back to Parks and Rec so

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That stood up well here's

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The actual description well that was after we did the week Celebrating Harvey Weinstein On the heels of our go Harvey Weinstein Special

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It was episode number 962 stop calling me Here's the official description our friend Andrew Stops by to be berated by Jen sean tells the reason he's got a red face and we asked the question could feist have been lying to

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us i assume that's the musician feist yes that and and in fact feist was lying to us what was that we had feist on the show and i was talking to her she had a it was an album it was the follow-up to the reminder i think which was the the kind of her big breakout record and it was the album cover was like...

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name spelled out in kind of trees and i asked her some sort of question about the trees and i didn't realize like i think it was just computer graphics like they made these trees look like an f and you know an i and e and s and a t but she told me this story she's like yeah there's this place out in joshua tree where these trees just grow in these weird shapes and we found trees that basically spelled out my name and I totally bought it hook line and sinker and then I think I ran into her at Sasquatch and mentioned I didn't and said oh we I interviewed you in Seattle and she was like oh yeah by the way I was totally made that thing up about the trees she was just like sort of just

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like trying just fucking with me she could because they have the folks like her are going and doing all these radio radio interviews so they just have to have fun somehow so she's right it's probably

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So and she was super lovely, by the way, wasn't one of those things like, you know, Bruce Willis. I guess we I guess we're not allowed to criticize Bruce Willis anymore because now he's not in a great way. But wasn't he the one that was. Oh, yeah. Harassing the British reporter. Yeah. Yeah. Really sort of just not being nice on one of those junkets. This was not that at all. Yeah. Very good natured. But, yeah, she was probably just trying to entertain herself by telling me a completely made up story, which I just took as gospel truth because it was Leslie Feist was telling.

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Right, and if you had pushed back, I'm sure she would have laughed and been like, if you had been like, oh, come on, you're making that up, she would have laughed and said, yeah, I am. But you didn't, and so she just rolled with it. Now, the question here is, and I think I know the answer to this, do we want a needle drop on this episode at all from November 28th? Oh, the day after my birthday, 2011, 2011. Let's take a listen.

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And that what you just heard was just the feeling that I have of ever listening back to anything that involves my voice because I just feel like I'm going to be mortified. But I think it would be fun for the listeners.

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And I'm not going to start it from the beginning. How about I start it from about like what, like seven, like eight minutes in or something? Like, is that is that we wanted you want to hear from the beginning? Yeah, sure. I'll leave it to you. You've got to file totally random. I have not done this. I don't know what we're about to hear. I have not heard this. I assume Andrew.

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What's wrong? somebody's outside walking one corgi was this really ruining my tweet i'm gonna take try to take a picture of it really fast you must have told me that tweet yesterday on the show right yeah okay oh man they're getting away dang it this picture is so unilluminating i gotta enhance this later sorry i i yesterday i was talking about how and i was talking about a tweet i sent where it said no one ever walks one corgi well actually yesterday on my walk with becca i also saw someone walking one oh you gotta get that I've summoned it now. And by the way, everything on my Twitter is about corgis now.

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For a man without corgis, there's a lot of corgi content.

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Well, it's like obviously the algorithm thinks that's what I'm really interested in because I wrote the word into Twitter. So now all I'm getting are like, we rate dogs, pictures of corgis.

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Oh, I see what you mean. The fed content that I see. Gotcha. All right. I'm going to try to deal with. All right. Let's hear this. There's like nine and a half minutes in. I keep on pushing it further and further back because I'm with you. I kind of push it back to the end of the show I am I I'm the same way as you on this like I don't I this isn't going to be necessarily fun for me I'm feeling very tense right now my guess is I listened to this app I don't remember listening to this after I was on but I can't imagine not listening to it after I was on like my favorite podcast but I certainly haven't heard it like since 2011 so buckle up because I want to sound cool because i so don't thank god we start with jen that's a good way to ease into this and that

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what's most important is that people understand what you're trying to say every show with her i know do you have a number whole like worrying about but then i just realized that i just actually thought a word was pronounced in a way that it's not i just thought verbiage and verbiage were the same word yeah but it's verbiage which brings me to my next problem which is that i don't like the way that sounds either where does i don't like vernacular or verbiage where does where does

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where does the e come from in verbiage this is actually interesting let's just this is today's show this is today's show you were saying yesterday they used to love listening to the dvd tracks of like the directors i'm sorry the yeah dvd tracks of directors cuts whatever let's just do this let's just comment on this because she's saying that it's not verbiage at all it's always verbiage i thought i had trained myself out of saying verbiage into verbiage because i always thought i was adding the extra e so i guess we're all learning i think it's verbiage yeah that's what jen was just arguing and i think that i thought it was verbiage and then i thought i was wrong and i've trained

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myself to say verbiage now i need to go back it's an i it's v-e-r-b-i-a-g-e but still i don't

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understand wouldn't why wouldn't it be verbiage okay let's move forward i want to get to the runaway part wow that went from interesting to boring really fast route their number into the internet and have it come back out as humane society right so when you get a call from either telemarketer or a bill collector it won't show up as Let's go. You know, as blocked or unregistered, it will have something that you're thinking, oh, you know, I'd like to call from the Humane Society. So they're trying to – there's actually a rule in Congress called the Caller ID Integrity Act.

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What did we say earlier this week when Luke is talking about Congress? He's drunk. He's drinking. It's his tell.

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I was soused for most of 2012.

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I love going back and listening to every time you mention Congress or a bill. it means you were across the street at the Azteca.

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For all the things they can't do, I'm amazed they got the Caller ID Integrity Act passed, but they want to even strengthen it up even more. So we were talking about this, and Andrew let slip in the meaning that he was, in fact, a telemarketer.

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I was a while back. I should make it clear. When? I'm going to say between 10 and 15 years ago, I'm going to say. God, you sound so much younger. Do I? I was going to say, I didn't think that. I don't mean it in a bad way. Because I'm nervous too

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It doesn't read as nervousness It reads as just like So much less dead Like there's still like Young and brimming with hope Like there's life in front of me still Yes exactly You're in a kind of relatively new city And you're working at this radio station And things are happening for old Andrew Lewis Walsh I already sound beat down by life I sound like I'm probably like you know in the midst of one of my many breakups i'm doing an imaginary radio show from

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a room somewhere uh-huh i um i don't know though i think i still i think i still have a lot of life left in me all right let's um go back i think it was about 10 or 15 years but it was probably like six months it felt like yeah 100 years of solitude it was when i was in college and i was There you go to Gabrielle Garcia Marquez. I was a telemarketer during this time in my life. I also, to make money, was also working in a fiberglass factory at the same time. Those were my two jobs, that and a public radio job that I worked at for about five hours a week.

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That actually seems fair to me. If you're a telemarketer, you should also have to be inhaling fiberglass.

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Jen, really? Yeah. Really just came in being like, you're a telemarketer, I hate you, and stuck to it. I like it. Okay, that's all we have to listen to.

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I just wanted proof of proof of I was going to play a game called how long before I make one of my four references. You know what I mean?

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Do you think in that?

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Please do not list my four references.

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I will say one, though. Do you think there's a Venn diagram joke in this? I promise you. I promise you.

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I promise you. If we if we let that tape run for four more minutes, you would do a Venn diagram reference for me.

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I assume that we don't want to keep going unless you're just out of stuff to talk about today. We just listen to this. No, I actually have a lot of stuff that I'm done today.

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OK. All right. I thought you actually sounded delightful and engaged, by the way.

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Thank you.

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Remember those days? That was why. No, but I mean, that was what I think that was probably somewhere in that conversation. The seed was being planted in my mind that would later bloom into cobroness that like, oh, this this guy really fits on this show. This really like works.

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it must not have been long after I would say it was probably early 2012 I know that this has been answered many times on the show but it was sometime in 20 this is late 2011 and I certainly joined you as a co-host somewhere in 2012 and I can't remember if that was near the beginning of the year or not but yeah this is like

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a barbecue where I'm married to someone else but you and I are hitting it off and

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wow this got weird yeah it did

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it really did but it's like this is the beginning this is it if we if this was the clive owen film and you're natalie portman at least you get to be natalie portman in this yeah i've always wanted like that's pretty good if you're gonna have to be somebody she's pretty good what is the film you're talking about or are you just talking about close there's a movie called closer where like everybody cheats on everybody oh i don't know i've never even seen it it's a real sliding doors situation the venn diagram between closer and sliding doors for me andrew this is a perfect

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I will say this in all seriousness, that Venn diagram joke led, you know, led to a TBTL poster that was a Venn diagram of some sort that I will still cool poster. So cool. Again, this was before my time. I'm not trying to toot my own horn here, but every now and then I will see a photo of somebody's apartment. In fact, I even think maybe our friend Angie has one. But every now and then, like on Instagram or something, I'll see a listener's like shot of their apartment or something. And in the background, you'll see that poster. And it is a good looking poster. I can't remember what the what was in the three circles, but it was really well designed. Andrew, I have some TV. I agree with you, by the way.

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Like, I'm so happy with how that turned out. I think that holds up as far as like radio show or.

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podcast merch or posters go i feel like that is actually from a design standpoint a really strong concept yeah i remain very proud of it i do also have some tvtl breaking news i have received an email from pro photo supply of portland oregon they have shared with me two files andrew nice there were two sets of files and then just one and that was when we all get where i'm going with that i don't need to complete andre the giant carried you that was what i was gonna literally say and then i just stopped myself um i believe the andre the giant photos are in and uh let's take a break and we come back i want to look at these because this is a highly visual medium i want to look at these two photos because you know i have the one that was the original kind of i'll just call it weathered the sun damaged one that had been hanging in this bar forever and then by the way becca and i have a new code i think for me wilding out which is are you going to nick's coney island that means yesterday we wrapped up our walk i think it's because the photo that i sent you clearly has a shot and a beer i use as a show pick i almost checked with

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you i figured that was okay people know that you have the occasional shot and beer yeah as we were

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partying company i was like yeah i'm gonna head home she goes is this a nick nick's coney island kind of night and i was like no it's not um anyway uh there's two versions of this photo So the retouched one or the color corrected one and then the one that's more kind of amberish because it's been hanging on a wall for 40 years. And I will look at both of them and tell the audience what they look like.

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And also to add to that Ford promo, we got a great piece of advice and advice from a listener, I think, regarding the broken frame situation. I don't know if you saw this yesterday, but I'd like to share that with you as well. I think it's good advice that you should follow. Yes.

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Okay. I'm excited to hear that. In a moment, here on TBTL. Hey, let's thank some donors of the day. These wonderful, generous folks are making the show possible by donating each month. And we sure are super thankful for that. talking about Anna Gorohoff in Seattle, Washington. Also, Frank Spahr is out there in Maison-la-Fuille, France. Wow, France. Oh, and look at this one. Wait a minute.

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Yeah, is this an international edition?

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Maybe. We've also got to thank Justice Curry out in Almendralejo, Badajoz, Spain. How'd I do on that, Andrew? I think pretty good.

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I think pretty good. It didn't sound like you were cold reading it.

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Hold on, though. Is this... We have a listener named Justice who's listened for many years that I know who used to be in, I believe, Wisconsin.

00:28:05 - 00:28:14 | Speaker 1:

I'm not sure if this is the same person Because we also have a couple of listeners with the last name Justice as well, so I'm getting confused Well, if this is the justice that

00:28:14 - 00:28:26 | Speaker 2:

Used to be in Wisconsin Well, la-ti-da, now you're kicking it In Alamendralejo Alamendralejo Mbadajos See, I'm getting better In Spain

00:28:26 - 00:28:30 | Speaker 1:

The Wisconsin of Spain The Wisconsin of Europe, they call it

00:28:30 - 00:28:46 | Speaker 2:

If we didn't already have Chart of Escalation That would be a pretty good show title The Wisconsin of Spain David Brumley is in Bellevue, Washington The Bellevue of Washington And then Gary Raskin's in Carlsbad, California Home of Whom, Andrew?

00:28:47 - 00:29:03 | Speaker 1:

This always gives me Birthplace of Because this is not where the Carlsbad Caverns are We've learned that That's in a different state But Carlsbad is the birthplace of Is that true? Yeah, Carlsbad Caverns are somewhere else, right? We do this every time

00:29:03 - 00:29:18 | Speaker 2:

It's home of Legoland, but it's also the home of Tony Hawk. Oh, okay. I would have never gotten there. The Carlsbad Caverns are in New Mexico. You would have gotten Bam Margera, probably. Yes, certainly. Anyone else from the Jackass franchise, probably not Tony Hawk.

00:29:18 - 00:29:19 | Speaker 1:

I thought that was a donor.

00:29:20 - 00:29:59 | Speaker 2:

We'd like to thank Bam Margera from Rehab. Oh, he's escaped from Rehab. Oh, now he's on TMZ. That's kind of a dark joke. Poor Bam Margera doesn't appear to be doing great in his life. It's so interesting because, you know, I've kind of like reconnected with the whole sort of jackass world. Yeah. They have a new thing coming out, like the lost tapes or something. Maybe I would. I, you know, I watched the like the latest film and then there was also kind of a documentary associated with it. That was all the outtakes. And I mean, I know it's not as much your thing. I know you're not big on pranking an elephant, but I just can't get over how funny it is when a guy just gets.

00:30:00 - 00:31:24 | Speaker 1:

absolutely nailed in the junk i i don't know it's just something primal about it anyway so i and i actually really like giant oxville but what i was gonna say that's surprising to me is of all of the people to now be like 10 years clean and sober and just absolutely living their best life steve o is a real inspiration um like he was just you know kind of sort of arguably the most out there person in that group in the early days and now i see him on tiktok all the time and he's uh he's clean and sober and he helps a lot of other people and you know with their lives and he's just like doing so well it makes me so happy that everything has turned out so great for Steve-O yeah that is cool I didn't know any of that yeah no he's like he's seems fabulous and unfortunately Bam Margera appears to have taken a different road but we do appreciate him donating to the show thank you Bam and also Zachary Siron who's in Seattle Washington thank you Zachary, thanks to all of our donors of today, we would not be here without you. Hello, and welcome to Top Story. All right, Andrew, I have sent you the photos of Andre the Giant from the photo mat, and I've got them in front of me, too. Would you like to open those? Okay, yeah.

00:31:24 - 00:31:48 | Speaker 2:

So again, one of these is a scan, and these are really high-fidelity scans. of the actual image they sound amazing as it um the actual image as it appears in the frame having hung on the wall this photograph having hung on the wall for 30 40 years um and the other one was color corrected so that it'll look like it probably looked when it came out of the um lab

00:31:48 - 00:32:15 | Speaker 1:

you know when it was fresh when it was a and i'll tell you this i when the guy asked me if i wanted him to color correct it i reflexively said no because i just wanted it to be as much like the thing that i was looking at as possible but i will tell you this i think the color corrected one is actually better i think yeah i looks more like it was the day it was taken is kind of

00:32:15 - 00:33:02 | Speaker 2:

is kind of better right yeah there's a it is more like kind of um there's more there's more like kind of blue overtones than i expected like the reds in this are um almost more purpley reds more than i expected but i think you had such an eye for color i guess it would make sense being that you're a photo guy i spent a lot of time yeah like monkeying around with the color in my photos but um i uh i am surprised i thought for sure and i think you just said the same thing i thought for sure i would lean towards the version as you saw it hanging on the wall scanned in with the with the age tone but when you see these next to each other wow that is almost all orange i didn't realize You don't notice until you see them next to each other how much you are losing in the colors. I like them both, but I think I would go with the color-corrected one, yeah.

00:33:02 - 00:33:14 | Speaker 1:

What if I did, I don't know, I want to say triptych, but that means three. What if I did a duo? What if I just got, what if I had them both enlarged and just had them next to each other? Wouldn't that be artsy?

00:33:14 - 00:33:40 | Speaker 2:

Well, I was trying to think about a way to do that, honestly. Well, I think what you need to do is get one where you, like one of those kids book covers. One of those kids book covers Where you turn it and like you know Like the face turns from being like pretty to ugly Or I don't know why I said pretty to ugly That's all subjective but you know what I mean Those images that you used to be able to turn In your hand and it would appear To either move or become a different image You know what I'm talking about

00:33:40 - 00:34:15 | Speaker 1:

Yeah it would be like Basically tiny little ridges So that when you looked at it from one angle You were seeing one thing but when you looked at it from another angle It was totally different yeah i actually think again you know because i'm famously uh known for my visual art specialties i do think there could be something interesting with having them both maybe not enlarged as like i was going to just get one of these really big but i wonder if there'd be something kind of interesting about just doing both of them kind of medium size and then framing them together like matting them in and just having like a big thing that has basically this photo two ways i do

00:34:15 - 00:35:48 | Speaker 2:

think you should do that whether or not you hang them both I do think you should get prints of both of these and then and then also because I don't know I would assume for medium sized prints it's not going to break the bank I don't know but I think it would be cool to have a print of the original one whether you hang it or not but yeah this is really cool what is this frame advice oh I mean it's very basic advice but so I was surprised yesterday when you do quick little just quick little background or for folks who are just dipping into the story now when you asked the bartender at the bar if you could take this um photo and get it scanned and you said hey i'll even get you a new frame since your frame is a big crack right down the middle of it and the bartender says no i kind of like the crack it gives a character which you and i both love but then when you went to take this photo out of the frame i was really surprised that this is some sort of old school frame that totally came apart into a whole bunch of different pieces and now not only would it be difficult to put that frame back together but almost impossible to put the frame back together while also maintaining a cracked plane of glass that is now two pieces um well krista on twitter suggested just take it to a frame shop and just don't get a new frame but pay them for the labor if there's a chance the frame shop will say we can't ask our employees to touch a broken glass yeah that's the one thing about that but it might not be worth it might not be worth a shot you know it might be where it might be i was realizing as i said that that was coming out wrong yeah it might be worth a shot it might not be worth not taking a

00:35:48 - 00:36:27 | Speaker 1:

not having a shot at it right exactly as i don't want to not you don't want to not miss your chance to blow no it's it's a good suggestion it will involve me then having to bore one more person with the story because how often does somebody come into a frame shop and go could you please reassemble this frame using this broken glass and put it back together just so what would be a real power move is if i didn't explain the story if i just came in and said i need you to put this back together and with this glass yeah then i just said i'll be back on tuesday to pick it up like now you know me i'm incapable of that so i'll have to tell them the whole story about this thing and

00:36:27 - 00:36:50 | Speaker 2:

you know it'll be boring but it is a good idea i'm not suggesting lying about this but i do wonder if like they if you didn't tell them the backstory they might assume that it's like you know maybe from a family member who's no longer around or something like there's something that your grandfather had and so you want to preserve it or something yes they would i would i'm guessing they

00:36:50 - 00:38:13 | Speaker 1:

would assume that there's some kind of um sentimental element to it yeah but um that's a good idea i will probably do that thanks krista good idea yeah good looking out krista i had not thought of that take it to the professionals take it to the people who professionally put frames together to actually do that i do have a guy you know because i have this um signed flaming lips uh space bubble concert poster here that uh i'm very proud of it's signed by the guys in the band because i did that tv story about them and it's a drawing that wayne coin did and i took it to a frame place in portland the guy did a great job he was also deeply weird i don't know if i got into this on the show back when it happened but do you ever just have one of those retail experiences where you just somehow you and the person that you're dealing with just cannot seem to connect that was me and this guy and i can't even remember all of the specifics other than it felt somehow like i was on his last nerve from the moment i called him even though he actually i was like a rush job and and so but he ended up fitting me in and doing a great job everything turned out just fine but at every step of the way between the phone call between being in the in the um actually his physical space and getting it everything felt weird to me except it turned out great so do i take this frame to that guy because he does good work

00:38:13 - 00:38:20 | Speaker 2:

But he and I do not click No I don't think so honestly I don't I think take it to a frame shop Yeah

00:38:20 - 00:38:25 | Speaker 1:

He is a frame shop He framed this poster for me

00:38:25 - 00:38:30 | Speaker 2:

But that wasn't a remote Thing you actually took it in and you had these Conversations face to face

00:38:30 - 00:38:45 | Speaker 1:

Well I called him to find out if he could do the job And then he gave me a bunch of weird answers And then I went over To his shop and then I brought the poster And then he framed it for me and then i got it like a day later and it all turned out great but every bit of our interaction

00:38:45 - 00:38:55 | Speaker 2:

was always kind of slightly strange uh-huh yeah yeah i don't know i i mean i guess you could try why not and you've already i guess you've already got a bit of a rapport with him even if it's a bad

00:38:55 - 00:40:29 | Speaker 1:

one speaking of speaking of glass that's a quality transition i just made yeah i saw this article in the new york times today from amanda hess that i just thought was just from a kind of i don't know if i want to say journalism or maybe just um a presentational standpoint i thought was really fascinating i'm talking about the way that the new york times delivered this information to my eyeballs the headline is meryl streep's one weird trick and amanda hess is basically talking about how put putting your taking your glasses off to express your shock is a real trope in films and she talks about how in the uh the movie the post where meryl streep is playing katherine graham who was of course the publisher for the washington post that meryl streep takes her glasses off in that film a lot to kind of emphasize the shocking nature of something that's going on and amanda hess writes that she was she didn't think the film was that great and so she was kind of heckling the movie and she started calling she i leaned over to my companion and i Thank you.

00:40:00 - 00:41:10 | Speaker 2:

said half of Meryl Streep's acting is, quote, glasses business. By the way, great fucking term. Yeah, and then she returned, so it's really well written. Yeah, this is a really good piece. Everybody should check it out. She goes, I meant this as an insult. I did not like the movie, and I was taking it out on Meryl Streep. But in the years since, I have become attuned to Streep's seemingly boundless on-screen manipulation of eyeglasses. it's stunning how often our most celebrated movie actress has built her performance on one of the form's hackiest bits i now follow this trend not with incredulity but with reverence i've come to see a pair of glasses on streep's face as chekhov's gun at some point you know they're coming off and it's going to be fabulous this is such a good piece uh and then what what was so cool about how the times did it though was and you scrolled through this as well right you look at it on your phone or on a computer computer oh good so it was these bits of of copy that amanda hess has written that would you drag them down the screen and they would sort of be almost like a like a newspaper clipping surrounded by meryl streep in one of her roles with her glasses yeah and some

00:41:10 - 00:41:19 | Speaker 1:

of them yeah some of them were like animated gifs some of them were still it was from a layout i mean i know that we're on the radio like we just talked about pictures for like i know i just but

00:41:19 - 00:41:20 | Speaker 2:

I just talked about Andre the Giant.

00:41:20 - 00:41:29 | Speaker 1:

But I'm telling you, like, yeah, I'll try to put the link maybe in the show description today because you should really check this thing out. It's so cool. The New York Times does such great work with like graphics.

00:41:29 - 00:42:04 | Speaker 2:

It's so smart because you could have just I mean, the piece is well written and you could just read it as a piece. That's like, OK, Meryl Streep takes her glasses off a lot in films and that could seem hacky. But she just has a special Elan that makes it actually really kind of effective. You could write that piece, but just the scrolling experience of the way that the text presented and then the photos and, like you said, the sort of, like, animated GIFs, if you will, GIFs, like, it just was such a great experience taking it all in. Yeah, The Times is pretty much the best, I think, at the digital side of these things.

00:42:04 - 00:42:09 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think so, too. And they were on it pretty early as well, which I really liked. Yeah.

00:42:10 - 00:42:38 | Speaker 2:

This is Amanda writing. The dramatic glasses pull is acting's least surprising expression of surprise. It's something you do only if you existed in a fantastical genre world, like if you were the brainy Sunnydale High librarian confronted with supernatural activity emanating from a hell mouth or a preeminent paleontologist seeing a genetically engineered Brontosaurus for the first time. I believe that's a reference to Sam Neill in Jurassic Park.

00:42:38 - 00:42:41 | Speaker 1:

The first one was lost on me. What was the first one? I don't know what that is.

00:42:41 - 00:43:00 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's also lost on me. The glasses removal is such a worn gravitas signal that once, while pontificating at a Senate hearing, Orrin Hatch reflexively pantomimed removing a pair of glasses he had forgotten to actually wear. By the way, this footage is in the piece, and it's wild.

00:43:01 - 00:43:10 | Speaker 1:

You know what? I missed that. I was looking at the images, and for some reason I didn't notice the image of him doing that. I'm going back to it now. It's so funny.

00:43:10 - 00:43:23 | Speaker 2:

It's like he's he's sort of making his point and then he's going to remove his glasses to kind of like emphasize his point or that he's done or that this is important. But he's not wearing glasses, but he just goes through with it anyway.

00:43:24 - 00:43:51 | Speaker 1:

I was actually it's so funny because I was reading that. And, of course, this is so visual, as we said, and I was reading that. I was like, oh, I got to look that up later, which I never did. But it was actually, oh, there it is. Yeah. Oh, he did. Oh, see, I was picturing one handed. Oh, my God. So he's sitting. I was picturing him standing behind a podium and like doing a one hand imaginary glasses takeoff. But no, he's sitting down and he uses both hands to take off a pair of imaginary glasses. That's amazing.

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The most dedicated modern practitioner of glasses business is probably David Caruso. who as the forensics investigator Horatio Kane on CSI Miami spent a decade applying sunglasses to punctuate his crude puns about fresh corpses that's like I mean that's a whole meme unto itself right is him just like him saying something stupid and then putting his glasses on and then that sound like wow that was like from the theme song I assume I assume that was from the intro music i never watched csi miami but streep is not intimidated by these cliches instead she works fearlessly within them revealing in their campiness one moment reveling in their campiness one moment then imbuing them with unexpected delicacy in the next um she seems to understand that the glasses pull is so overworked partly because it is immensely satisfying to watch anyway uh would recommend this amanda hes piece it's super good uh the other thing i saw in the new york times uh yesterday that piqued my interest was this guest essay by somebody named joshua hunt and now this because of the

00:45:00 - 00:47:57 | Speaker 1:

fractured digital media environment we live in i saw this i didn't see this just like scrolling through the new york times some one of eight million different things that blast their way into my email account said the headline was being poor turned me into a liar i was like okay you've gotten my interest now that's not actually a headline associated with the piece that was someone i guess kind of summarizing the actual headline is how i became a pathological liar It's actually a very, I think, well-written, interesting essay. Basically, this guy's point, Joshua Hunt's point, is that he grew up in a lot of poverty and in a very unstable home environment. He starts by talking about how he and his siblings, they go on a trip to Disney World in Florida from Alaska. And it makes no sense because it's the middle of the school year and he has to lie to his teachers about why he's taking time off from school. and also they're poor they've never been to anything like disneyland and also why are they not going to disneyland in california why are they going to disney world in florida and it's because uh his stepdad is smuggling cocaine and he sees like at the after they've been in disney world for a few days or whatever he sees his stepdad literally packing the bricks of cocaine into a suitcase yeah right um and then he just goes on to detail like what's interesting as he points out is that all that cocaine didn't seem to do much for them in the financial department it wasn't like then they moved into a mansion yeah they continued to be really on the margins and he watched his mother uh tell a lot of lies uh but but lies like talking to the landlord saying the check i sent the check yesterday as he's watching her put the check in the envelope um all this different stuff but he there was one line now and this guy really unfortunately for him kind of ended up taking his lying to a place of really kind of like pathology like he was a pathological a liar and it caused him to have to move around a lot and it ruined a lot of relationships so that's obviously like a whole other level but he had a line and then what i'm about to say about myself which is that definitely i can relate to the idea of lying when i was a kid to try to not seem quite as poor he has this is the line that jumped out at me from the piece no lie was too big or too small so long as it helped me project an aura of ordinariness and i was like oh man that hit me like a ton of bricks because that was my whole move as a kid it was like i was not lying i was never lying saying i have i own two lamborghinis or you know i am funny as a 13 year old i go to disneyland every month like i would my lies were like oh my mom got these jeans at goodwill but i wanted people to think that they were not secondhand so i said they were from lamont's it wasn't even like i said nordstrom i didn't even like lie and say they were from a what i consider to be a fancy place that idea of like that was the if i think about my childhood

00:47:57 - 00:49:59 | Speaker 1:

and i had a really good childhood too i don't want to get too woe as me by the way i'm gonna have to grab the cat here who's threatening to derail the broadcast yeah i believe you have a cat sounds maybe she's working on behalf of the listeners she's like yeah this has gone far enough no if i think about my childhood which was really i had a really great childhood um and i'm i feel very fortunate in that but if i think about the parts of my childhood that didn't feel good it was deep shame and embarrassment about not being ordinary about not i just wanted to have you know and there was another thing that this guy mentioned that i totally related to which was lying about being sick on days when there was a field trip that he didn't have the money his parents didn't have the money for him to go on so if there was you know and like i know look i'm not i hope this doesn't sound like i'm trying to be woe is me because i did i had a great childhood But another thing I really remember was anytime there was an activity that had some sort of obligatory, you know, cost to it, I just went into panic mode. Like when I was on a team and they'd be like, we're all getting these shoes, we're all getting these basketball shoes, we're all getting these cleats. I was like, oh, fuck, like, I'm so screwed because, like, there's no way my mom and dad are going to buy me these, like, you know, $40 red cleats because I'm on Domino's pizza baseball team and we're all getting these certain red cleats. Oh, right. So it was so much stuff like that that I had to just always kind of navigate that, again, I will say it for the eighth time. I had a really blessed childhood. I was loved. That's huge. I think I would put that pretty much at the top of the list of what you really need as a child is to know that you're loved and to feel like people care about you. And I had that feeling. Are you still in touch with that bus driver? Yeah. That was another long-haired guy with some real crazy ideas. Otto. Sorry to interrupt. I'm trying to bring some of that life that I used to bring to the show back with my acerbic wit. I realized that when I said that How you sounded so full of life Obviously the other side of that coin Is that you now sound

00:50:00 - 00:50:13 | Speaker 2:

Like all the life is drained out of you, which is not what I meant. Nope. Now I'm going to be an edgelord on TBTL. I'm just going to try to get those numbers up. No, sorry. Go ahead. No, I was interrupting a sincere moment of appreciating.

00:50:13 - 00:50:57 | Speaker 1:

No, I just – no, I just – I thought this essay was really interesting and kind of well-written and would recommend it by Joshua Hunt. And again, that thing, for some reason, that thing about just wanting to be – have an aura of ordinariness, that just really resonated with me. And anybody else who grew up kind of like I did can probably identify with that. It's like you don't – you're not even trying to be the coolest kid. You just – and by the way, this is probably not even a class thing. Like let's say you're somebody who had – who grew up with resources but you just didn't feel like you fit in. All you wanted – all anybody really wants when they're little I think is just to not seem like an outlier, right? Yeah, yeah. And whatever way that manifests.

00:50:57 - 00:52:21 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm trying to think is that panicky feeling that you describe like I'm trying to like obviously I'd be very familiar with that as well. I don't you know, we didn't grow up poor. In fact, we grew up in an area that was kind of poor, but like my parents had kind of moved out to the country from the city. and so as you know from the suburbs of the city or whatever the neighborhoods um and so the older i get the more i sort of examine the the the class sort of differences between um between who i was and the kids i was going to school with because i think that play i think i was blind to that as a kid but i do think it plays into the social dynamics that we had you know i was both nerdy but also probably you know i was a bit of a you know like an over i was an overprotected kid and all these things and and we probably had more money than not all of the kids but then a lot of the kids um like the kids like the kid who had the metallica shirt that showed a knife coming out of a toilet that said metal up your ass and that was appropriate that was do you remember that metallica shirt like i know a kid who wore that to school under the age of 12 i'm gonna say like probably 11 or 12 years old i think was that matt hurt who actually i don't think matt hurt hurt for money i'm not sure but anyway that was hurt for parenting i think it was him now now i'm using his first and last name but somebody i'm googling this is it a real image can you can you verify

00:52:21 - 00:52:40 | Speaker 1:

can you 411 like that was a real thing i'm 411ing it right now boy you described it exactly it's it's a toilet that then has a hand coming out that's holding a knife and it says metallica and it says metal up your ass it's exactly how i remember it would be a really really uncomfortable thing to find in the toilet if you're to sit on it.

00:52:40 - 00:52:56 | Speaker 2:

Absolutely. And the thing is, I don't think that's a song or an album or in anything by Metallica. I think it's just Metallica calling the t-shirt. It's just a threat, really. It's just a threat. It's just violence. I don't know. I like metal in my ears. That's kind of where I prefer to intake my metal.

00:52:56 - 00:53:13 | Speaker 1:

Not to main drop, but you know, I didn't even really get to meet, I guess I get to chat with him briefly, but we had Lars Ulrich on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, when we were in San Francisco one time, and he was so lovely i can't see him being part of putting metal up anyone's ass lars is the lead singer right um

00:53:13 - 00:53:40 | Speaker 2:

he's the drummer oh he's the drummer james hetfield okay i was gonna say the drummer especially always seemed like an especially kind person i think well you know it's because he's european i think he's from the netherlands or something oh i didn't know that but i remember even because i was a little bit of a metallica fan um in high school and so you know i've a little bit of that in my background but i just remember lars always just denmark like a re he just gave off a very loving sort of quality no joke yeah he was so nice when we talked to him and it was cool because he

00:53:40 - 00:53:50 | Speaker 1:

was actually he lives i guess in san francisco or has a place there so he was in the building and we were all very hyped about it and he was as lovely as you would imagine he is a danish musician

00:53:50 - 00:54:09 | Speaker 2:

interesting okay yeah i certainly didn't know that i thought he was from here in the states but anyway yeah i do know that panicky feeling though of being a kid and being like oh but for me again i've used this example too much but it might be something more like okay we're hey everybody we're playing shirts and skins or something like that would give me the absolute panic feeling and that's

00:54:09 - 00:54:59 | Speaker 1:

and you know like that's a good thing for me to remember too is okay my version of this was we didn't have a ton of money and so that was where my kind of embarrassment centered but i had zero embarrassment about shirts and skins and someone else had embarrassment around that and then there was the person who was embarrassed to have to read in front of the class or to have to do whatever Everybody had their thing, you know, it's like I didn't have a I didn't I don't have the market cornered on basically feeling shitty as a kid. Yeah. You know, mine just happened to mine happened to reside around the issue of resources for whatever it's worth. So anyway, it's a pretty good article. How I Became a Pathological Liar. I would recommend it. Remember?

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Okay, here's where we are at.

00:55:23 - 00:56:08 | Speaker 1:

During the break, I went to blow my nose using a Kleenex brand facial tissue. As I put said tissue up to my face, I did that thing where I accidentally inhaled a little, like a tiny little piece of fuzz from the tissue. You ever get that? Do you need me to just take over then? Do you need me to handle this? I just cleared my throat. I will do the first one. It's a shorty. And then I'll let you pick up from there. But I'm worried about the blurs days. If you start to fade, I'll be strong for both of us. Okay, thank you, as you always are. First Blur's Day here comes from Adam Who says please wish a happy Blur's Day To Elizabeth C Who continues to be an ageless beauty And an absolute rock star From Adam Her 11 Cute

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Anytime we get the 11s tolerating this BS We've done some good work in the world Catherine says Owen, Patrick, Bugaboo This message is from Mama and Tiny Anne celebrating your birthday with popsicles, chocolate donuts, fireworks, and time at the lake brings the biggest smile to my face. Logan is the luckiest little sister to get to have a big brother like you to play with and learn from, and I am grateful that you made me a mama four years ago. My goodness gracious.

00:56:41 - 00:56:41 | Speaker 1:

Happy Thursday.

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Also, can I have their life?

00:56:43 - 00:57:02 | Speaker 1:

I want to eat donuts at the lake. You literally can eat donuts at the lake. Can I? You can literally do that in five minutes when we're done. I mean, what's your nearest lake? Lake Oswego, maybe? Get yourself some. I don't know. You like grocery store donuts. Glazed. Yeah, I love those.

00:57:02 - 00:57:26 | Speaker 2:

Get yourself some of those. Go to the lake. For some reason, you saying literally reminded me of a hilarious tweet that I wrote last night. I actually think it was kind of a good tweet. I was randomly heard that song, Hey Jealousy, by the Gin Blossoms. Yeah, yeah. And I just was reminiscing. I was reflecting on what a not compelling offer that is. Tomorrow we can drive around this town And let the cops chase us around That sounds awful

00:57:26 - 00:57:29 | Speaker 1:

Yeah it does So what did you tweet

00:57:29 - 00:57:41 | Speaker 2:

I tweeted something like Thanks for the offer to drive around Being literally chased by the cops tomorrow But I've got a thing I don't know how that Uh oh

00:57:41 - 00:58:00 | Speaker 1:

We played that yesterday How many tweets of the week can we have Fire tweets We are going to be we are whatever I just lost my words I'm looking for Blur's Day music oh my god where's 2011 Andrew we need that guy

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but you've successfully cleared the tissue from the airways

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embarrassment will do that I was going to say we're suffering under the weight of too many tweets of the week or something like that but suffering was not the verb I was looking for there anyway You want to get this next one? No, no, no. This next one's for me. I got this. I need to redeem myself here. Cecilia says, I'd like to submit a Blursday message to me whether you know it or not because I'm a big Facebook and Slack lurker. You guys in the TENS community people like Linder, Eric, Jamie, Melisande, Lynn, Phyllis, Nick, Rob, John, and Laura just to name a few, help me get through the S show that is gestures at everything happy blurs Cecilia happy blurs did I catch you in a moment were you working with the cat there I was working with the cat's a nice

00:59:00 - 01:00:00 | Speaker 2:

way to put it I had some cat business going on not in like Meryl Streep's glasses business the cat business is the cat really likes to jump onto a desk that I have books on and then up onto the desk that I work from but the problem is the part place where she knocks over one of my clocks and we can't have that. So it's a whole situation. We have a message from Michael who says, a big belated blurs to my two fives, Finley and Colin, who just turned six and three. They are backseat listeners and love to sing along whenever the TBTL theme song comes on. Aww. Let me activate my... Everything's messed up on my board now, thanks to that dang cat. That gets an awe. Thanks for always keeping them entertained or asleep on road trips. That's fine. You can be entertained and asleep, Michael. Those two things can be true. Also, happy Blur's Day to my dad who died suddenly yesterday. One day short of his 78th birthday. You are an amazing...

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You are an amazing person and have been an inspiration to everyone that knew you. Thanks for everything, Pa. We all love you. Oh, Michael, we're so sorry to hear that.

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So tough. Yeah, and Michael just sent that in this morning, too. So that's very, very fresh. Michael, I hope you're doing all right, my friend.

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Yeah, we'll be thinking about you.

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So sorry to hear about that. I think laboring under. Labor was the verb I was looking for before. We're laboring under the weight. I do, by the way, I consider this emotional labor. Wishing all the listeners a happy birthday. I can never go back and listen to that tape. I just started a sentence and just, this is why I would never survive on the Levitard show. Like, Levitard would never let me get away with that. Just, like, petering out. Like, that would become a half-hour segment about me not finishing a thought. Just a total, like, the way they go off on Greg Cody. Yeah, exactly.

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The words mean nothing.

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I've been dipping my toes back into that world a little bit. Not as obsessively as I was, but I took a little break, and now I'm back. You know what I've got to do? Wait, we're doing Blur's Eyes. Genevieve bought something. I don't remember what, but it gave us four months of free internet radio, or free satellite radio. I should say SiriusXM. Oh, yeah. And we've had it. It's only four months, and I've had it for like a week or two now, and I haven't put it on my phone yet. I need to get into that.

01:01:20 - 01:01:33 | Speaker 1:

Yeah. I don't know. I know that you're like, you listen to some Stern. You're clearly not as Even in the days when you had Satellite You weren't quite as obsessed as Phyllis and I Are with that show But unfortunately they just went into their two month summer break

01:01:33 - 01:02:49 | Speaker 2:

I always get free The first time I think I got it When I actually was listening to Stern I think I lucked out and actually caught him right after their break And so I remember being really moved by that show Because I think Stern had lost his cat Over the summer break And he came back and he was talking about that But I swear Every time I have this service I catch them during, like, one of their two-week stints. Two-month stints. Two-month, oh, man. You know, that's one thing. Every now and then, and you know I love our listeners and they support this show, but, like, I'll get, like, some kind of passive-aggressive side-eye in an email or something. They'll be like, well, you do this many shows a year except for the, well, discounting the summer games and winter games. Like, that isn't rerun material. Those, I mean, whether or not you like them, I'm not telling you you have to like everything we do. In fact, I think you'd be weird if you liked everything we did, because I can tell you one thing. I don't like everything we do. But, like, the idea that we aren't working or putting in extra work during this time to provide, you know, new content, somewhat shorter, but it is new content. It isn't like, sorry, boy, I really have a chip on my shoulder during Blur's days. But, like, it's not reruns. I mean, you know, Stern is putting up reruns for two months. And they do the show three days a week when they're active. Right.

01:02:49 - 01:04:12 | Speaker 1:

And, I mean, again, and you know what? I don't begrudge him because that's the deal he was able to make with Sirius. Amen. And if it didn't work, if the listeners wouldn't tune in, then, I mean, I guess here's what I would say. It is, in a way, flattering if people are a little bummed when we do take some time off because it just means they like the show because that's my feeling about Stern. But, yeah, we're – how many, you know, sort of weekdays are there in a year? You think I would know this by now. But whatever it is, that's the number of shows we do new shows per year. We literally never have a day where we are not putting up original content, whether it's Christmas or the 4th of July or Flag Day, Flag Day, especially like we there are no days where we are not putting up a new show. And so, you know, and again, they're not all they ain't all winners, but there's at least new content. So we're doing our best. It's weird for me to just come out firing on that. That's how Monica in Burbank, Washington would have wanted her birthday introduced. I'm just going to run with this because since Monica's in Burbank, Washington, I know that I just read the last one, but I feel like this one falls to me. Please wish my beloved sister and fellow 10, Laurel in Burien, the happiest of Blur's days. I'm hearing Yanni, but okay. That joke never gets old.

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I think this, is this the Laurel who dressed up like Laurel and Yanni at an event? I don't know.

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We have a few Laurels, actually. Okay. I hope this year brings all the happiness and goodness possible. She is amazing and deserves it. I believe it. From Monica in Burbank, Washington, one of my favorite towns, although I've never been there. I should go visit Burbank, Washington.

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You should. You should get your photo taken in front of Captain Burbank, or is it Colonel Burbank, whoever the statue is of there, making all that up. By the way, I thought this was interesting.

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I was going to say, did we talk about this?

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No, I'm just making shit up. This is interesting to me only, but I can't not share it. I thought it was interesting that we had two blurs in a row that are from cities. This is going to be insulting. That are from cities that have the same name as more famous cities, if that makes sense.

01:05:00 - 01:05:47 | Speaker 1:

think of burbank you think of burbank california right and here we had a burbank washington and now we have somebody checking in from vancouver washington as opposed to vancouver canada and that is tracy in vancouver washington who says happy blurs day to me i'm turning a blurty five i love it i woke up this morning to happy sunshine and as i stood there watering my flowers i thought life can be hard but life is good i have so much to be thankful for including my health my dog my friends and my family and of course tbtl of course tbtl today i plan to drink iced coffee on the list this sounds like a good day too luke when you get your donuts do this uh tracy says i plan to drink iced coffee today eat tacos go paddle boarding and hang out outside all day doing the things i

01:05:47 - 01:06:46 | Speaker 2:

love good on you tracy treat yourself yeah i have to say you know i rented a truck in vancouver washington uh the other day which i talked about on the show during the whole lawnmower situation and i haven't spent a ton of time in vancouver uh like in that part of vancouver but there are some really cool areas and it is nestled right up against the river depending on the part of town you're in and there are some some cool houses some cool older neighborhoods i think i just didn't even realize that there's like a lot of mid-century houses and there is a part of vancouver where you look across the river right at the portland airport which you know sometimes you hear oh i live near the airport you might not think oh this is the greatest neighborhood but this is like so perfect because it's far enough away that it's not like the planes aren't you know landing in your backyard but you can just watch it all day long i would totally live in a house that was across a big river from an airport i'd love watching planes take off and land yeah me too i remember growing

01:06:46 - 01:07:01 | Speaker 1:

up um near uh i uh what cleveland hopkins international airport there'd be a part of town And I'm blanking on the part of town It's called Where people would just park And watch airplanes take off and land And I always thought someday I'll do that I never did it

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I feel like that's what you have to do If you're on a date in a movie You either have to go to an airplane graveyard You know all the old planes That are like you know mostly disassembled Or you do the thing where you lie On the hood of the car And watch the planes land and take off

01:07:18 - 01:07:43 | Speaker 1:

Yeah that's also in the first thing I think of of course is Wayne's World. Oh do they do that in Wayne's World? Yeah that's they're sitting so Garth and Wayne are sitting they're like laying back on the hood of one of their cars and they're just watching the airplanes go by and that's when Garth asks Wayne if Bugs Bunny is sexually attractive to him or something. I think

01:07:43 - 01:07:45 | Speaker 2:

probably like when Bugs Bunny dresses up like a girl

01:07:45 - 01:07:46 | Speaker 1:

Yes exactly and

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my answer is a resounding yes to that As a kid, I was like something Oh, there was something Stirs inside me when Bud's Bunny would Dress up like a girl. I think he would also have Bosoms, which that was probably helping

01:07:59 - 01:08:03 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, it depends I can say a lot of stuff because

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My nieces are in Europe right now, so they're not hearing

01:08:05 - 01:08:10 | Speaker 1:

Oh, that's right, you can't listen to Podcasts in Europe, right? No, it's illegal

01:08:10 - 01:08:24 | Speaker 2:

Thanks a lot Macron Tariffs, yeah, something along those lines Okay, that's gonna to do it for our show this week thank you uh this week this day but also we can take the rest of the

01:08:24 - 01:08:27 | Speaker 1:

week off if the listeners would like us you know yeah well we'll just take off tomorrow what if

01:08:27 - 01:08:31 | Speaker 2:

after that whole diatribe tomorrow we just don't do a new show we just put a straight up we just

01:08:31 - 01:08:42 | Speaker 1:

play an old howard stern episode or there's just nothing there just nothing in the feed an old howard stern i love that oh my goodness it'd be a pretty good meta joke i'll tell you all right we

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will be back here tomorrow i promise with more imaginary radio for you until then have a great thursday please take care of yourselves uh go mariners and remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all did you ever find bugs bunny attractive when he'd put on a dress and play a girl bunny no no neither did I I was just asking power out

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