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Guess what day it is Guess what day it is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday Everybody's looking forward to the weekend It's not all bad, I'm gonna tell you that But it is more bad than good

You sound like I might be a little bit jealous, babe You know, and I know a little something about being jealous

because people have been jealous of me my entire life and this this is your master plan oh no no now this is a whole other awesome thing this is just a goof later tater

all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a friday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live i just want to talk it has nothing to do with mating my name is Luke Burbank, I am your host.

He's got like every meme ever produced on the internet. He can knock us out with his memes.

Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon. Beautiful. Absolutely picture perfect Friday.

Oh, ma, pa, it's just beautiful.

Not too hot, not too warm. Nat population seems to be declining during my little morning jog. Rolling the dice here on the show today, everybody.

A cat is an angel that poops in a box.

I'm allowing that angel that poops in a box here in the broadcast studio with me. With only a tape measure to distract her. This is, I was measuring, you know, I've been on this whole saga about the Andre the Giant photo that I'm having digitized. And I was measuring some other things in this room, some other like framed art. Because I wanted to kind of get a sense for how big things are. So when I went in, I could say, you know, three by six or whatever. So I had this tape measure in here and I've been now using it to distract her because she's very fascinated with it. But Andrew immediately recognized the sound. Could you recognize this as being the sound of a tape measure? It is a pretty unique sound, I think. But that's basically what I've got today to try to keep the cat from climbing onto the console where all the microphones and buttons and important things for the show are happening. A show that finds itself at episode 3,728 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. All we hear about in the news right now is inflation. Well, there is something that is apparently inflation proof, and it is the Costco $1.50 hot dog.

What's courageous about eating a hot dog?

I was reading an article about this. I'm not shocked to hear that Costco is committed to leaving the price of that hot dog in place because much has been made of that over the years about the conversation between Jim Senegal, the founder of Costco, and another fellow who was proposing raising the price of the hot dog. And he said something like, I will kill you if you raise the price of the hot dog. But there was something else about Costco's business model that had really never occurred to me and I thought was kind of interesting. Maybe we can talk about that during Top Stories. Something I'm not that interested in, but the internet is obsessed with. Welcome to the internet. Is the story of Funny Girl, the musical.

How funny is that? That's pretty funny.

On Broadway, sorry, I had to put the tape measure down. This is too much going on for me to try to deal with all of this at once. The Funny Girl musical on Broadway is going through some recasting. uh beanie feldstein was the star of this uh of this uh production and is now being replaced by leah michelle who you may know from glee and things like that and this is apparently a huge story even though i don't it's not the kind of thing that i particularly care about i'm not a huge broadway head or whatever but the internet is just obsessed with it and thankfully someone at slate wrote a piece called like why is the internet so obsessed with this broadway casting situation it seems to just be a confluence of kind of events that we can talk about plus it's a so we'll do some music for your weekend plus we'll say hello to this guy the longest running cobro of the show maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships he is a mirror at this point i don't know he's less than 24 hours away from genevieve's party featuring andrew walsh there's

a Hidden Valley Ranch party in my mouth.

And he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Wait.

what are you doing to me there bro you have a no idea what i've been dealing with here andrew in the last in the last three minutes okay you could not even the fact that i just pulled that off to any degree is while talking while while seeming relatively plugged into what i was saying honestly

i should get a peabody okay we should tell the listener what we're talking about so i

So for the last about two days, Andrew and I have been having all kinds of weird trouble where I was just not getting his emails. And my email is often very kind of hanky. And so I just thought, well, it's my emails being weird, which I also mentioned to you. That's my karmic punishment for lying about my email being weird for so many years when I just didn't want to respond to someone's message.

Yeah, but at least we know why you're a habitual liar now. We learned that on yesterday's show. It's because you're poor. Yeah, exactly. Poverty.

Poverty. I am Pavati. So today I was like, okay, I wanted to check in with you about how this party planning is going. I know when you're having a big get-together, the day before and the day of, it's just kind of a lot of getting things ready. And I'm actually, I love that kind of stuff. So I wanted to talk to you about that, but I wanted a good audio drop that had to do with partying. And so I asked, do you have that? there was this drop that we have that is called a it's a p-a-r-t-y because i said so right now you sent me the drop i was sitting here waiting waiting waiting and never got it and i was saying this was the same thing that was happening yesterday and meanwhile i'm getting emails from our supervisor beth perlman so i know i'm getting emails but i'm just not getting them from you and then I was like is it possible that my email thinks that your emails are junk and I went to my junk folder and lo and behold it had just randomly decided based on an email from you at some point you know it was it was it was highlighted in yellow and it said basically your you know your email thinks this is junk and I had not seen it because I don't go to my junk folder very frequently and so i didn't see basically after that point it started to file all of your emails as junk including the audio drop that you expected me to play when introducing you it was only midway through my rap at the top of the show andrew that i looked over and realized i didn't actually ever get that audio out of the i was so busy trying to fix the i was so busy trying to unjunk your emails which by the way we had a long conversation with unjunk yeah

And that's where it's sort of my fault, too. We were talking about junk, which led us to a conversation about junk sleep commercials, which led to another conversation about an email exchange I had for my other podcast, which then I suddenly abruptly ended that conversation and said, I got to go get some coffee. And so in doing that, I wonder if my tangent is somewhat to blame for me not hearing this.

It's a P-A-R-T-Y because I said so.

At the beginning of the show. So here's what's happening. First of all, the cat is trying to climb onto the desk. I'm holding a tape measure in one hand, and now it's gone from being a fun game to it's like the princess bride. I'm sword fighting the cat with the tape measure to try to keep her off of the desk. I'm also holding a paper cup of coffee because I recently ran out of coffee, and so I've now been getting the coffee from the downstairs vending machine. I'm also realizing I don't have this drop, the aforeplayed.

It's a P-A-R-T-Y because I said so.

I don't have that drop ready to go. So I have to stall. I have to talk longer about Beanie Feldstein than I'm really comfortable doing. And go into my junk sleep folder and find the email that I got from you and then save it to my desktop and then drag it into the system wherein I play the audio out of. But here's the problem. When I unjunked that one email from you, it moved everything into my normal email.

so i'm scanning my oh you unjunct one one email so then it flags me as legit so then all of it gets scattered into your main email but not as a as a brick or a clump of andrew walsh emails but

probably sorted by date suddenly i was i'm looking around in the in the junk folder you're not there anymore now you're in the regular folder again which is overall good news but this is all happening andrew inside of 15 seconds and so my solution was grab a different party related drop which i had to go find in apple music in my what formerly was known as my itunes drag it into the system balance it so that it wasn't blasting super loud and play this there's a hidden rally ranch party in my mouth that is that whole thing unfolded in about 25 seconds while i was still talking, which is my way of saying not all heroes were capable.

There's one thing that you should know, though. Bubbles isn't really left-handed. That's a solid callback. Anyway, well, we got it in there.

It's a P-A-R-T-Y because I said so.

Now, I mentioned to you before the show, I have that drop because our pal Bean sent it to me at one point. I'm going to say, like, forever ago. I'm looking at the calendar. It was forever ago. like years and years and years ago he sent that to me and i didn't know what it was from i'm now thinking it is from that show adventure time which i don't think i've seen any of oh wow or maybe i is that the show that john moe briefly did a podcast about with um mike eagle oh no that was mcmillan men oh wait no that was i don't know i get confused because i remember meeting a listener one time and i if i'm right that this party time adventure time was like it was like a cartoon that

like hipsters loved for some reason i mean it might be really good too i never watched it but it was definitely it was um it was a cartoon that had layers to it was my impression and so i think

one time i shocked shocked a listener at a live event when after the show we were chatting and somebody was shocked to know that i was unfamiliar with that cartoon because i played that party drop all the time i was like well i don't know my friend that was just sent to me so anyway it's

so funny those audio drops when you don't have the context because today was the first i even learned that was the origin of that i had written a completely different like a picture in my mind of what it was and it was like a a gal of a certain age from an infomercial or some kind of like moms on the net style kind of unselfaware commercial or infomercial where it's like for some product you know and like when people are coming over you're getting ready for the party And then I can picture the lady who's saying it's a P-A-R-T-Y because I said so. And I'm sure that's not the context or the origin of it. But I have imagined a very specific woman saying that for every time you ever played the drop.

Wait, I might be wrong. This might not have anything to do with any kind of a cartoon. I'm now looking at some sort of homemade video. Hold on a second here. No, that's not it. That might be somebody just imitating it. I don't know. Maybe it's from a cartoon. Maybe it's not. I don't even think I'm supposed to call them cartoons, right? Animated. People laugh at me when I call them cartoons, or they scold me.

You're supposed to call them Mojo.

I'm supposed to call them animated featurettes.

I don't know. Speaking of P-A-R-T, why is because we said so, Andrew? Because she said so. Yeah, right? Genevieve's Party featuring Andrew. By the way, I just got an auto email from Evite that Genevieve really wants a response for me on this. I'm assuming that's just automatically generated in it. genevieve has many more important things on her mind than whether or not i'm coming to the party

i got that too yesterday when i was sitting next to genevieve i was like come on man don't be spamming me with your evites but um yeah i guess meanwhile that gets through but your emails my

trusted friend and colleague those are going right to junk sleep but like here check your

junk sleep folder um yeah i mean that's one of those things because what do you have that in front of you and i what's the actual language on that reminder because it really does sound like genevieve is over here tapping her foot and tapping the the face of her of her watch on her wrist being like luke come on man you're holding up the works here when really like i think the system just does that and it makes genevieve look like an annoyance well i definitely

it says please rsvp so it says genevieve like the subject line says genevieve's name and then it says please rsvp but then when you get it says genevieve is waiting for you exclamation point But then when you get to the body of the Evite, it's not overly stern, but it does say, celebrate the summer at Genevieve and Andrews, featuring Andrew. And it gives the date and the time. And then it says, Genevieve hasn't received your reply. Let them know if you can make it so they can arrange for the final headcount. It just takes a click. Will you attend? Just takes a click. And that's 100%. I mean, I assumed 100% that that was just a setting in Evite. It's just one of the many ways that they're trying to drive hashtag engagement and that that was not because Genevieve was kind of, you know, wondering or worried or anything. I'm a I'm sure she knows that I'm otherwise occupied. I'm going to Frizzell's memorial in Austin. And also, I just don't think I mean, I love Genevieve. I really do. I just don't think Genevieve cares enough if I'm coming to the party to specifically email me. So I wrote it off as auto generated, but I just wanted to double check.

Well, Genevieve had told me that she was counting on you to bring the deviled eggs. Are we going to have a deviled eggs problem if you don't show up? I mean, maybe that is going to be a problem. My famous deviled eggs? I'm hearing you play with that tape measure in the background, and I said to you before the show that I think that it's – that I said, hey, that's a distinct sound of a tape measure, and you were impressed. It made me think – I was going to ask you right now to play a bunch of –

sounds for me and see if i can identify them you probably don't have like good things around you right now in your studio you'll just be like tapping the board um but i'll try it i'll try it

i'm gonna do some i'm gonna do some okay let's see so i'm putting the tape measure away which is dangerous dano because it also means so this is the sound of a tape measure being put away this is also very of course um you know specific yeah tape measure going away that also means the cat is going to be coming for me because I'm no longer distracting her. So, now I'm going to try to do some other, and I'll give you a hint, these are all going to be office sounds. Yeah, I know. Because I'm in an office.

It just occurred to me, this is my second thought on this, is really, we're really biting the rhyme of our colleagues over in the children's and family programming department. Do they do this? This is a regular segment on Brains On, yeah, where they call it mystery sound, but that's okay. We'll just improve upon it and steal it and copyright it. Okay, great.

So, here we go. Here's a mystery sound for you, Andrew. I'm going to turn my mic up a little bit, too, just because I want this to really be captured. Oh, yeah.

Oh, scissors. Scissors. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. Scissors. Very good. Exactly. I'm two for two. Two for two. Do you have anything more?

I do.

I do. Try to see. Another one. Oh, wait. That's another tape measure type of thing. What is it? Ooh, this is intriguing. Hold on, hold on. One more time.

Okay.

It sounds like something that is being... It sounds like a quieter tape measure, or like a... It could be described as such. Is it like a tape measure that you would measure around your waist for pants inseams or whatever?

There's no measuring going on with this. Okay.

And I'm running out. So you better guess soon. Oh, something that you can run out of. Is it cigarettes? Let's see. What are the things I've run out of? I never run out of darts, dude. You know me. I don't know. I give up. What is that? This bumps me out. Scotch tape. Oh, God. Office supplies. Yes, you're running out. Okay, stop.

I have so much frigging scotch tape now.

Write it off. Does anybody need any scotch tape? Call me. Our supervisor, Beth Pearl, is going to be like, why am I signing this receipt for another of $100 in scotch tape.

If anybody goes on Facebook Marketplace or OfferUp, you'll see four feet of scotch tape gently used. Six-word story. That was the original six-word story. Right, okay. And then finally, of course, every office has one of these bad boys.

Mama.

Okay, hold on. Don't tell me. Play it again. Every office has one of these bad boys.

I want to have one of these bad boys.

Okay, is this another tape measure? It's not a tape measure. It's not a tape, but is it like a tape measure? Or is it like a gerbil that you would talk into and then it repeats you? Or is it a tape measure?

Dang, you're good. It is a gerbil that you talk into that repeats everything you're saying in a weird-ass way.

That thing. That fucking thing. I love that thing so much.

that was i think i think without a doubt that was the worst part of the tv cell-a-thon and i really want to apologize i got in a weird thing with that i thought that thing was so funny some a listener i don't know if they were a tv tell listener or a livewire listener someone left that at security at the holt center for performing arts and eugene for me and i just am and i'm in love with this thing as is bubbles by the way she really wants to murder this exactly right now it's exactly the size of something yeah she is sitting on the garbage can now measuring her jump to see if she can jump to where the gerbil is i swear to god this is this is action-packed i really i need to almost videotape this up she's decided that she can't quite get there it's so interesting to watch her sizing up her jumps because she's like she's like julio rodriguez her skills are improving exponentially like every single day so she's i mean she can just get to so many more things than she could when she was a little kitten and uh she apparently decided that that was still out of her range jumping from the top of the garbage can which has you know like it's one of those kind you step on a thing and it opens the lid she was perched there staring at the talking gerbil and trying to figure out if she could make the leap truthfully she could have made the leap but um what if you put that thing on the ground just let her sniff around and see well that's i'm then she'll kill it because she has this um little small stuffed pig that addie got her that's named like Derek or something and it's so cute because she loves to play with it but she loves to simulate murdering it basically

because it threatened to raise the price of hot dogs

yeah that's exactly right Like, because she, like, it's, I mean, she gets, she does that thing that cats do where she gets it in kind of between all of her paws, and then she just, like, kind of, what do you call that move, even? She just kind of convulses and, like, kicks her, you know, feet and paws on it, like, basically throttling it. Yeah, I can picture that, I think. Have you ever seen, like, does Bananas ever do that with things, with, like, a little toy or a ball or something?

bananas will go a little bit nutso over a ball or something but she doesn't she i she wouldn't probably attack a small plush at this point i don't think she has that kind of kitten energy although pardon me should have muted the mic i didn't we can all live with it um but this is the most boring thing anybody's ever said in a podcast but it was notable to me today when i ran upstairs to get my you know last little bit of coffee that i mentioned earlier i went up to one last cup of coffee before we started the show bananas is just sitting in a different spot and it kind of is wigging me out like when you've had a cat for this long like i can name all of her spots right like she's got little places she sits around the house usually at this time she is sitting um right at the top of the stairs um there's a chance she might move over to her kitchen spot a little bit earlier in the day usually around noon she'll come join me in the kitchen for lunch i sit on one of our chairs a little dinette table and she sits on the other chair she doesn't sniff my food she doesn't get my face she just she's like oh it's lunchtime and she comes in and she sits on the chair with me um on the other chair with me and um anyway so she's got these little spots the bed the couch another chair whatever today just you know half hour ago i'm come down with my coffee and i see for some reason she's sitting in the middle of the living room underneath the table that is in the middle of the living room never seen it before and it's weird how it wigs me out Because she's never done that move before

Pete Holmes has a bit The comedian Pete Holmes That has really been resonating with me Now, obviously, cats and dogs are different But this is kind of funny It's like a minute long Can I play this for you? Sure, yeah He has one line in here Which is like And I feel like this is a little bit more Related to bananas than to bubbles Who will not leave me the frick alone But he says something like Basically, your dog is obsessed with you And if you see your cat in the house Sometimes it's like a celebrity sighting You're like, whoa, I saw the cat Here, take a listen to this

You can tell I was raised with cats because the command I most often give my dog is go live your life. I don't know what he wants. They're needy. I just didn't know how needy a dog is. I've been out of the house for two days. If my dog had a cell phone, I'd have 4,022 missed calls. 4,022 texts of the bone emoji and the walk emoji. He'd be FaceTiming me right now, just like, look at these baby browns, dad. look at these goddamn baby browns you look for your cat you hide from your dog does that make sense you don't know where your cat is like people say cats are evil and they are but they're also all set you know what i mean they're fine they're off learning to meditate or some shit they're rolling their own cigarettes when i left the house with my My dog had to, like, toss a tuna steak and do a barrel roll out the window just so he wouldn't be like, is this forever?

That must be nice to be bored, though. That was, yeah. I mean, well, the funny part is, I mean, I totally see that as being, that would have definitely much more related to my relationship with Olive, the last cat that I lived with, where Olive was very elusive and would not follow me around the house per se. Was not interested in what I was doing most of the time. meanwhile it's like this cat is literally at my feet right now which is good we had a good night last night too mariners had a comeback win we i mean i look ran this cat so ragged with the laser pointer last night it was like two solid hours of her sprinting her ass off so then she was totally tired like it's amazing when i get her to the point where she gives up she she has a move where she climbs up on the coffee table because there's zero discipline in this home and she just goes and her like belly's just like and she's like basically because he's going roberto duran on it no mas and that's when i can like scoop her up and put her like on my legs as i'm like kind of reclining on the couch and then she like she uh goes to sleep and it is extremely gratifying yeah but it isn't it's it's i mean people with human children know this feeling and even people with pets it's like so much of just dealing with her to get the like the kind of really nice snuggle time of a couple of hours but last night was sweet i was like soak this up burbs this is the good part i'm starting to call you burbs again did you get my text where i told you to soak it up i did i thought it was bubbles walking on your computer again oh my god she i mean her ability she changed the channel like three times during the mariner game like her ability to probably an angels fan just hit buttons that that are that actually do something is wild to me like you just think i mean it really makes me rethink that you know seven monkeys on seven typewriters thing you seven bubbles on seven typewriters and you're getting shakespeare or at least a weird text about shakespeare sent to andrew because like it isn't like she just jumps on the computer and nothing happens she's facetiming people shit is going on when she hits the computer keyboard that would be interesting to get a what are the chances your cat just okay now maybe you're a varying for a specific reason and if so i'm sorry i'll get off this topic but i just really do want to check in do you feel like you guys are in a good spot in preparation wise for the party maybe i'm just yeah i think maybe i keep veering off because

i don't really have a lot to say there yeah i think i mean i guess the answer is yes you know like um again this is really sort of genevieve's deal i'll make sure that the house is clean but i doesn't even think so here's the deal in fact i shouldn't say this because the people involved will probably hear this, but I don't know why that matters, but I was texting with my friends today, I saw that, do you know that the White Center in South Seattle has a, in the South Seattle area, has a baseball team called the Fish Sticks? Uh-uh, I did not. Yeah, it's like a collegiate level baseball team, and they play like today, when I was texting with them, my friends who live down at White Center are going to the game tonight, and they're playing the Redmond Dudes, so obviously I'm already you know of course rooting for the fish sticks and I've been wanting to go to a game and I looked at the bus route and it's like I don't want to drive all the way down there and have a few beers and drive all the way back so I'm like hey the bus ride down there's like an hour and 15 minutes or probably more like an hour and a half and all said and done a significant amount of time but like I could do it why not and I was like oh well I guess I should be doing something for the party tomorrow but I'm like I don't have anything to do it's at night I can vacuum in the morning like I'm I don't want to get in my head about this and make it feel like you know I've been taking care of the lawn and now we're at a time of the year where there's less rain thank goodness and more sunshine so it's not growing up constantly in fact the lawn is a little bit brown that I don't totally love but don't worry I'm not watering it but like I'm not going to mow the lawn just to mow the lawn if there's nothing to mow. So, like, you know, maybe I should just take that bus trip down to White Center and see the fish sticks take on the dudes. You come over and watch the fish. You can come over and watch the fish. Cubed mozzarella. The only problem with that plan is that would that would counter program the Mariners game, which I'm not going to the Mariners game. That's in Arlington, Texas. But I am interested in seeing if the Mariners can pull off 12 in a row. Not to ask too much.

I'm finally actually going to a Portland Pickles game. Is that tonight? Yeah, it's tonight, and it is counter-programming the Mariners, but, you know, you make sacrifices in this life. I had threatened to go to a game a couple weeks ago, but what happened was we went to Becca's brother and his wife's house, and they have a swimming pool, and it was a Friday, and we were having some drinks, and then it was, like, time to leave and go to the baseball game or continue to sit by the pool in 100-degree weather. And yeah, we opted for eating it on the Portland Pickles tickets. But tonight they are taking on the Bend Elks and we're going and I'm very although it's it's walk the park night again is the promo. And I kind of wish that I could get like one of the weirder, you know, because I mean, minor league teams or whatever, whatever the pickles technically are there. They're kind of famous for like weird. By the way, I think lift the chairs is the tradition. Either when someone hits a home run or they score a run or something, everyone picks up their chair and holds it over their head. Chair? I think there are sections of – there are bleachers, but then there are also – they have a few different seating possibilities. One is bleachers or – yeah, probably bleachers, maybe individual seats. I'm not sure. I haven't been there yet. But like in, you know, screwed down, locked down seats. Then there are like some berms where you bring your own camping chairs. Then there are some picnic tables That you can get for like 90 bucks And you can bring six people There's all these different things But I saw some pictures on the website Of people holding chairs over their heads So maybe if you brought your own chair Or if you're somewhere where you have a chair That's not bolted down You're supposed to lift it for some reason Like tomorrow night The promotion is the dude night Free rugs to tie the room together Presented by Marion's Carpets Now that is a night I can get behind Now that's something that the Redmond dudes Should be doing right exactly um so yeah tonight is rocking the walk which i guess i'll find out what that means tonight but like i would really like even uh on the 19th the promotion is portland wrestling night and tattoo tuesday i'm guessing that has something to do with getting a tattoo there that's against the uh gresham gray wolves uh how about versus the willamette wild bills the promotion is...

Exploding Whale Night, which I assume is a commemoration of that famous whale that they tried to explode and it went so poorly. Like, you know, so I hope to go on one of these nights where they have, like, a weirder promotion going on.

Well, Rockin' the Walk, could that mean that you get to run the bases or something? Oh, no, Rockin' the Walk. We talked about this last time. It's just a concert series. They have an area called The Walk. Oh, I see. They'll have shows. That'll be kind of nice, I guess. Do you want me to tell you who's playing tonight? Yes. Rockin' the Walk. What is tonight? today is july 14th or 15th it is uh nick normal is playing uh here's the bio nick normal is just an ordinary average guy his friends are all boring and so is he they're just ordinary average guys um that is the that is nick normal and we can listen to nick normal's music here um let's see oh it wants me to open spotify i'll do this all right do you think spotify will pull this down

i want to go on august 6th when it's mascot olympics night which i assume that sounds It's like an Olympic-style competition involving the various mascots.

Yes, that sounds really good. I'm just going to play a little bit of Nick Normal here. If I don't like it, I don't want to be slagging on it, so that's just rude. Here, let me see. Sorry, this is locking up, and this is also probably just generally a terrible idea, but I think I got this here. If I can fade. The description sounded fascinating. Now, when they're playing this song, Windows... This does sound hyper-normal. windows painted shut you can like sing along tonight

this is literally exactly what i expected based on the description this is a little devo-y huh a little devo-ish but the kind of anti the kind of anti-description of the band yeah yeah made me picture or imagine this exact style of music that's kind of weird this is precisely what i expected from a band called nick normal i don't hate that a little new wavy there that's kind of That's kind of cool. All right, we'll have some fun. Yeah, absolutely. I am excited to go. If it is as fun as I think it is, I think it could be a fun kind of Friday night, you know, go-to in Portland or Saturday night for something to do. Because it's also not that expensive. And like I said, they've got veggie dogs.

And, you know, I was thinking, too, like, if you end up going and you're with Becca and everything, like, this is one of those scenarios where if you want to keep your eyes on your phone watching another ballgame, like, it's a very socially acceptable thing to do at a ballgame. It's not like you guys are going to a fancy restaurant and you got the phone on your knee under the white linen tablecloth. Exactly. Like the commercials.

No, this is I was even thinking, I wonder if they'll be flashing the score up on whatever. But I'm also guessing they have a fairly rudimentary diamond vision at Walker Park in Portland where the pickles play. But anyway, that is the plan tonight. The plan here is to take a quick break and then come back and do some top stories. So stay with us here on TBTL. hey let's thank some donors of the day these are the wonderful generous people who are sending money into tbtl every month and that is what allows this show to happen i want to thank Megan Kelso of Seattle Washington also Elizabeth and Steve Maxwell and they're in Houston Texas also a big thanks to Dan Patterson of Aberdeen Washington I am obsessed with this audio of you know that Kate Bush song when I said Aberdeen like my very poor Scottish accent but uh there You know, that Kate Bush song, Running Up That Hill, is just completely re-exploded because of all the, you know, using it on Stranger Things. And I just saw, I'm trying to find it now, if I can, in my texts to myself. This woman singing Running Up That Hill with a heavy Scottish brogue. And it is so funny. Of course, the problem is the way that I keep track of things that I want to refer back to later or listen to later or use as audio drops is I text them to myself. The problem right now is that a lot of what TikTok shows up, it just shows you the TikTok logo. It doesn't actually show you specifically what things, but I found it here. I'm just going to play this for you, okay?

said i've been running up that road i've been running up that hell i've been running up that

building i don't know why that makes me laugh so much i'll play that for you one more time yeah it's so good

could i'd make a deal with god and i'd get empty swore by places i've been running up that road i've been running up that hill i've been running up that building

that's pretty good it's so good i don't know why it's like you know we're not even that far we're not even in like wildly different geographic places if you're talking about the you know the uk or by england versus scotland but boy that song takes on a different dimension yeah When delivered in that particular accent That was what I thought of when I said Aberdeen, Washington Where Dan Patterson is Also, Linda Hill is in Bothell, Washington Are you trying to make a running up that hill joke without making it weird? No, I'm trying to stifle a for a day or a lifetime reference

Oh, ha ha, gotcha

I was trying to, I was fighting That was just a real There was a real angel on one shoulder and devil on the other

I really, I felt the battle But the battle I chose was wrong

Carolyn, Oliver Hustlehalter is in Allison Park, PA That sounds like a place that you would have passed through at some point I probably have I'm wondering if that's in the greater Philadelphia area Or if it's maybe western PA I'm not exactly sure But Carolyn, thank you for supporting us And then, well, looky here If it isn't one, David, my actual brother, Burbank

David from the basement My Boromir checkin' cuz Remember when you were talking about That bumper sticker That your dad crafted That showed the profile Of the fellowship of the ring I guess And I didn't know who like the fourth one I was proud that I could name like the first four maybe But then the fifth person in the line I didn't know who it was So of course I texted your brother he now charges it's kind of like a 900 number for fact checking Lord of the Rings stuff and he's like it was Boromir and I'm like oh I forgot about Boromir and he said to be honest most of the fellowship forgot about Boromir pretty quickly too so I was like I don't feel so bad

they have David listed or maybe David listed himself as in Portland Oregon but he's of course now up in back up in the Bay City of Bellingham Waugh

I'll send a note I'll send a note to our Our man with the computer, Jonathan, over at 8 p.m., if you can fix that up.

Thanks, brother. Thanks, actual brother of mine. I appreciate you. And all of our donors, even the people I'm unrelated to, I appreciate their donations as well, because we wouldn't be here without you. So thank you for supporting this program. Hello, and welcome to Top Story. I saw this story in some business news place, actually CNBC, I guess, where they were interviewing one of the guy named Craig Jelinek, who's Costco's CEO. I can, by the way, Jelinek, I can never see the name Jelinek and not think of Strangers with Candy.

I know, that's what I was thinking. I can't remember the actor's name. You probably can. Paul. Paul Danello. Danello, yeah.

Paul Danello. Was he Joffrey Jelinek? Just amazing, yeah God, that show I really need to go back and revisit that show I, you know, got to do that thing with Amy Sedaris And it was really fun I probably should have done more Strangers with Candy talk I kind of was also Her at-home show that she's currently Or most recently made I think was kind of one of the things that They wanted me to focus on And that show was also really good But man, if I think about those Strangers with Candy episodes And things like Joffrey Jelinek uh i uh i remember what a great show that was anyway he was being interviewed this guy craig jelinek was being interviewed by cnbc and they asked if they were considering raising the hot dog price uh because you know famously you get a hot dog a quarter pounder plus so i guess they're saying it's more than a quarter pounder all beef hot dog and a 20 ounce soda you get a refill with that by the way and it's a dollar 50 and craig jelinek flatly told cnbc we are absolutely not raising the price of our hot dogs now they have raised the price of their chicken bake which i have to say if i still ate that kind of stuff i could really get down on a chicken bake isn't it like a jalapeno popper with chicken inside and cheese i think it's a little bit i mean yes kind of yes think of like a large although i'm trying to remember if it's it's been a long time since i had one if it's if it's as much breaded on the outside like a popper or if it's more almost a little bit doughier okay kind of like um a hot pocket kind of thing think about something in the neighborhood of a hot pocket meets a jalapeno popper okay but it's just it's got some real good ooey gooey cheese in there although i know that's not usually your favorite but um i'm looking at it yeah that's a good description the chicken bake has gone up by a dollar they also switched coca-cola was going to raise the price on them in 2013 so they switched over to pepsi yeah and then they've raised if you want to just buy a pepsi there like a fountain drink that's 10 cents more now which is just a weird number to me i mean i guess 10 cents here and 10 cents there and you've you've made a difference but the idea of raising the cost of your fountain drink soda by 10 cents is i mean again i guess if you take 10 cents and you times it by a hundred thousand events now you're you know you're talking about real money and you're offsetting whatever the increased cost of something might be i mean how many cups of that

do you think they sell across the country in a single day even a even a slow day i mean i mean

is there a costco in like every major every larger city in america now is that a given you know i

don't know growing up in ohio but this could be a generational thing i had never heard of costco We were Sam's Club people, and before that, it was something else before the— 833 Costco's in America, by the way. Okay, 833. I mean, here's one thing. We were talking about this. We were talking about kind of like recycling at stadiums a while back. Like, one way to think about this is just imagine there's one garbage can, one giant garbage can at one Costco at like the—what would you call the lunch counter area at a Costco? Commissaries. Cafetorium Cafetorium I wanted to say commissary there I think that's a nice word That doesn't get used a lot But it might also be fancying up What we're talking about here

I think commissary means The central place Where certain food is created But then sent out To other places Really? Well I know I thought a commissary

Was more like the place Where people who work At a certain place Gather to eat So it would be kind of Wrong there anyway But I thought a commissary Specifically would be like Let's say you and I Both worked on I don't know why I'm going to say this But like Let's say you and I both work on the Sony lot. I would think that the place where everybody would get together to eat would be the commissary.

We were both right, Andrew.

Yeah.

Okay. So commissary, a store for equipment and provisions, especially a supermarket for military personnel or food supplies, a lunchroom, especially in a motion picture studio. Whoa. So you're right.

I don't know why I associated that with motion pictures. You know why? I can tell you why. Because there was a coffee shop I used to go to in Hollywood called Commissary, and it was attached to a lot, I think.

So you're totally right. The reason I was thinking of it in the other context of being the central location was because when my sister Sarah and her husband were first opening their restaurant, Pollo Bravo, there was multiple locations, but one of them had a more robust kitchen, and it was where a lot of the stuff that was going to be sold at the other restaurants was actually originally made, and that would be referred to as the commissary kitchen.

I see. But is that in the definition That it's a place where food is made and then sent out I was looking for that here

I'm just saying that that's how they referred to it So I assume that that's

Any whoozle What were we talking about? Oh, I was saying So imagine, just imagine For everybody who goes to Costco, and I now count myself Amongst those numbers Although it's been a minute Just imagine one container That is empty at the beginning of the day And then at closing time you empty it and it's where everybody threw their pepsi cup after a day of business imagine how big that would container would be just at one costco right and now think about the number of costcos in your area and then think state then think about the 836 or whatever you said before luke um pardon me that's a death rattle oh god geez louise okay don't die before tomorrow Oh, you've got a part to be featured at. Identify this noise. Okay. It's cleared. Oh, that is the sound of a co-host dying on the air. Anyway, yeah, so that's kind of how I picture it. Like, that's a lot. And then, you know, add 10 cents for each one of those cups. Like, you know, across the country, that's going to be something. And if you're literally losing money on these hot dogs because you've made this pact with your customers, well, then you've got to start, I don't know, eating around the edges a little bit, I guess.

I guess so. And that's what they're doing. But they're leaving. Again, they're leaving the hot dog in place because, of course, that's famously people get very excited about the Costco hot dog and the soda. We've talked about it on this show pretty extensively. Here's the part of the story that jumped out at me. And it was like, well, of course, why didn't I think of this? For Costco, most of its profit comes from its annual membership fee. It's like, no doy. Think about it. If you get a million people to pay $50 a year, then that's what they're doing. That's how—it's the membership price. You could sell a lot of stuff, and it's probably more than a million people. I don't even—I mean, their revenue was, like, way in the billions. I've now moved off of that website that had what their revenue is. It was, like, $192 billion or something crazy. Like, or maybe it was $19.2 billion. But anyway, of course that's—

how they make their money and then the selling of the stuff like yeah if they make some money on these products if they can sell them from where they bought them great but even if they're selling a lot of stuff more or less for what it costs them or even losing a little bit on the hot dog i i had like basically forgotten that yeah to shop at costco you have to already give them what is it 50 bucks a year i don't even know what a costco i can't remember i didn't yeah genevieve took care of that but it's awesome you know what else is funny for all the money that has flown and through my life and slipped through my fingers, all the things that I spend money on that may or may not be a good idea. Do you know, I don't think I've ever had my own Costco membership that I paid for.

That doesn't surprise me. You know, as we're talking about on this show, neither did I until until, you know, a few months ago when Genevieve got excited, we moved into a new house and thought, hey, this could be part of our new cool lifestyle. But, you know, I don't go cool as cool today as it was. Right. Exactly. Like, you know, I don't think that you and I are the type of people who get excited about having a whole bunch of extra paper towels, you know, like we're mostly city dwellers who can go and grab the things we need as we need them.

But I am less like you in the sense that I think you really enjoy. Do you bring a do you bring a reusable shopping bag when you go to the grocery store?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so sometimes we also need the paper bag. So sometimes when we're running low on paper bags, I won't. But, yeah, for the most part, I have a tote bag or two.

Because I could just see you, like, kind of having it, you know, like sort of looking forward to your trip to the grocer to get the things to make the thing you're going to make. Like that process is enjoyable for you. And you sort of like, I mean, you've said on the show before, you kind of like buying the amount of groceries you need for a specific amount of time as opposed to, like, a bunker mentality where you're kind of like getting. Now I'm not quite like that When I do I go to the grocery store very infrequently Because I mostly just do DoorDash which is kind of sad But when I do buy stuff I will buy more than I need Because I just like to have it around Bubble water is a great example I never buy less than three Of those boxes Of soda water And then I have a specific Level of my refrigerator And I do the move Do you still do SodaStream though?

yeah yeah which is kind of a bummer because i don't really do soda stream genevieve does and i will say i wasn't a huge la croix drinker but when we had it in the house i enjoyed it and now like i don't care enough to make it in the soda stream and genevieve does so

anyway that was not it's weird because i like i made a commitment a while ago that i was going to stop drinking the cans of soda because or of soda water because it's so hard to you have to be really in the right mood and have the right amount of thirst to crush an entire can in one sitting and the thing about bubble water is it's not as enjoyable when it's flat so it's like if you don't consume it all when you open it it's kind of like not great after it doesn't really hold up after that so i was like i'm gonna just start buying the bottles the plastic bottles because then i can just pour out the amount i want and the rest will stay fizzy but there's just something about the soul of opening a can of soda water that i just love so i've kind of slipped back into it but the move you get those long rectangular cubes of them right and this move that i probably saw on tiktok that i love is you undo the cardboard on one side and then you place it on the refrigerator shelf you're going to have it on and then you undo the other one and you push it through like you're i don't i can't think of a good analogy that's not sort of gross but you basically push all the cans out so you don't take them out individually you move them out as a unit Onto the shelf And then I straighten them up And then I put another one Exactly three of these Fits on this shelf Three cubes of bubble water And when those things Are all lined up And they are still In the rectangular shape now But they're in the fridge I find that deeply satisfying

Yeah, I could see that Actually, beverages like that Are something that I could See myself stocking up on One thing So I have two things I really want to say here One we can dismiss pretty quickly And that is You and I are very different As far as the way We consume beverages And yours sounds like a much more healthy relationship to beverages but like i have no problem finishing a can of la croix maybe i couldn't drink two in one sitting but like if i'm cracking open a can of that i'm taking the first slug and it's going down about halfway immediately i do the same thing see that's

what's weird is i i'm usually like super thirsty and then i'm like i crush like two like half of the can but then i'm my thirst is slaked and then it's like it's that last mile problem andrew it's That last quarter of the can that gets me.

Oh, okay. So usually I drink everything too quickly, so I think I would polish that off. But I don't know why I had this on my mind the other day, Luke, but I had a question that I was going to ask you at the top of the show. Okay. And now, and I forgot on that day, but now here we are, the perfect opportunity to bring it up again. I'm so excited. I dropped my pen.

Okay.

Pens in hand.

I'm gesticulating here, if you can picture that. Let's get off of the topic of cans for a second and get to the topic of, you know, 12-ounce or whatever, 16-ounce cans of soda. Let's say you've just gone to 7-Eleven and you bought yourself a Coke, right? In fact, let's even make this, you're in the car, right? You've got to drive somewhere. You've got maybe a half-hour drive in front of you. You take yourself a, for you it would be a Coke Zero, I imagine. You've got yourself a bottle. I'll do a DC. Okay, you got a bottle of DC. You get in the car, you start the car, and then you open the bottle of Coke. You take a slug of it. Now, what do you do? Do you put the cap back on the bottle and twist it on?

100%.

You do. I'm glad to hear that. I'm slightly surprised only because you are so similar to Genevieve, and I find it to be, well, first of all, none of my business, But for some reason, maddening that Genevieve, like once she opens a bottle, it's just open, like forget about wherever that cap is. She might she'll throw it maybe somewhere in the car where she can grab it quickly if she needs to seal it back up and put it in her knapsack or something. But for them and then, you know, there have been times also where I've pulled out a bottle that wasn't sealed up so great. And there is an accident in there. But yeah, Genevieve will just like leave that baby open. And also she drinks them really slowly. She's not a guzzler like me. So she'll just have, like, this open bottle of soda that she's been dragging around without the cap on for, like, four hours. And, again, it's none of my business. It doesn't, you know, there's no reason why I don't like it, but I just find it, like, so chaotic.

That way lies madness, as far as I'm concerned. First of all, yeah, I'm just worried about the carbonation, like, leaking out of the bottle. So that's probably – I also like – I enjoy the physical experience of unscrewing a cap on a bottle and taking a swig and then putting it back on. Indeed we do. There's something about that, like, loop kind of opening it and closing it and, again, feeling like it's going to stay as carbonated for as long as possible. Also, I'm worried about spillage. Also, we are now dealing with some loose caps. Where do the caps go? Yes, exactly. Although I will say we do have that problem here, which is that Bubbles loves nothing more than a plastic cap off of like a thing of milk or whatever or a soda. So I will sometimes when I'm done, I'll take it off and I'll toss it for her. But then it just means it's like there's a sense of eventually there's like six loose caps at any one time and then it ends up in the Roomba. It's a whole situation. You know what I did yesterday? Not to change the subject, but just to get into how much I've sort of anthropomorphized. or i should just say to highlight the degree to which i'm raising the cat and the rumba as siblings i hit a point yesterday where i ordered some food i had sort of a late dinner because i had been out uh and at the other house that i'm working on and so i was really hungry and i ordered some food from a place here in town that i love called huero and i was so excited to eat it but you know i can't eat food in this house now without being harassed by the cat And there is not any surface high enough Where I can just be sitting there eating And she won't jump up and come over and want to sniff it And so I took her But I know that she also is intrigued with Randy the Roomba So I got the Roomba And I got Bubbles And I put them here in this office And I turned the Roomba on And I shut the door And I went and I ate my dinner blissfully Without the cat messing with me And I thought this is like This is getting into like a mom hiding from her kids

Yeah like turning on the TV

this is real Calgon take me away territory like I have to hide from the cat but I don't want the cat to be totally bored so I'm locking the cat in a room with her brother the Roomba so they you two entertain each other for a god damn minute

I mean it has major like raised by television vibes too though right like pop the kid down in front of like oh this cat was clearly raised by Roomba like you know what I mean

it just I was like this is I feel like this is something my mom could have done at some point It was just like, Luke, Elizabeth, I'm locking you in this room. Come up with something. I don't know, but leave me the hell alone. That's where I was yesterday, and I thought, this is getting weird. Anyway, back to the Costco thing. The thing is, Andrew, I flippin' love being inside a Costco. I find it, because I'm unfortunately a hyper consumer in this society. Like I'm, I'm all about like seeing that there's a 9,000 inch television that used to, that's normally retails for a thousand, but right now it's going for 699. Like all of the, all of the stimuli and all of the kind of retail tricks and things that are brought to bear at Costco totally work on me.

Like it's it's like a it's like a casino of buying shit. You know, it's just like the way it's laid out, like there's there'll be something like, oh, I like those, you know, cloths and pickles. God, what if I got a jar that was the size of a human being? Or what if I bought a 20 pack of those, you know, whatever, like anything that I like, Costco will sell me five of them hermetically sealed together in this way. Like that's just really it really works on me. So I'm surprised that I don't go to Costco more just for the experience of the pleasure that I take from being in a Costco. It's kind of good that I have, for whatever reason, not crossed that bridge.

Well, that kind of surprises me because I don't think of you. And again, I'm not I'm not saying I'm right here and you can tell me what you think of this. But I don't think of you as a bargain hunter. I think of you as somebody who enjoys shopping, as somebody who enjoys buying things. And often buying, if possible, the nicest version of something, whereas Genevieve is a bargain hunter, right? Like, Genevieve is somebody who, like, she would much rather – like, you and I probably would not prefer to get something used. Like, even – we were talking about my camera, like, you know, that I bought a couple years ago now. You know, I'm really glad I did buy it used because it was like new. but like if I'm going to be investing in something I'd rather pay a higher price for something to be brand new, out of the box shrink wrapped, whatever, whereas Genevieve she will live to find something the SodaStream we have, we bought off a Craigslist like six years ago it was supposed to be like a, maybe not six, but a few years ago, it was supposed to be like kind of a, hey let's see if we like this thing, we picked it up at a 7-Eleven parking lot in Lake City, like I know whenever we pass that 7-Eleven now I say hey there's the SodaStream store and I'm just like I thought we were just going to get something nicer once we decided that that thing works but Genevieve's like no like she loves finding deals whereas you seem to like shopping but I don't think of you as a real deal hunter

I'm not generally

the deal hunter I didn't even mean that's a dark movie man when they put that nerf gun up to their head

oh yeah isn't that Christopher Walken is in that? yeah I am not typically obsessed with except for when I am which it's like I buy a lot of things because I like the experience of buying things and because I you know I get a thought in my head oh I should have that I had a thought the other like on my jog today it was so dumb it was like this is how my brain works and this is how I end up impulse buying things sometimes I was like okay what I should probably do when I get home to get the to keep the cat occupied is I'll turn on the room but then I was like then I'm doing the show and then when the rumba comes over near the door it's loud and it you can hear it on the show and i was like but i remember that they sell digital fencing like for rumbas you know about this you can buy these little basically like it's something that sends up a force field that the rumba does not pass and they're like two of them and i was like okay i'm gonna definitely buy those and then i'll put them in the hallway so that the room so randy will not come down this way when i'm doing the show and then i was like so i was already down the road of like they probably sell them on amazon i could just get two of those and then i and i was like how would i just vacuum when i'm not doing the show what the hell like i don't need to buy a digital fence for the rumba so the two percent of the time when i want to do the show and have randy going randy won't come in an area where it's sonically apparent to the listeners like but that's how that is how i end up buying some stuff that maybe i don't always need um because i just get fixated on something That being said, I do like, listen, if I walk, you know, if I walk into a store and there's something that normally costs X and now it costs like this, here's a perfect example, wine. So the Fred Meyer near where I live has a surprisingly robust wine collection. I have a strange relationship with buying groceries at Fred Meyer because when I was growing up, the Fred Meyer in Greenwood did not have a grocery section. It was just like, you know, clothes and home goods and, you know, camping supplies. It was a lot of things, but groceries were not one of them. And so when I started seeing Fred Meyer's that also sold groceries, it always will feel weird to me for the rest of my life because it does not seem like a thing. It'd be like if they started selling groceries At Shucks Auto Supply And they were fine groceries but you're like This is just not what I remember getting here

It's a little different but for me I'm that way a bit with Target Yeah I just never knew Target to be a Grocery store and now that they said like Buying milk at Target seems really weird to me I'm the exact same way with Target

Because yeah out here when the first Targets got here they were not doing groceries At all but the Fred Meyer by my house Is actually Kind of a great grocery store they have like a really varied selection of

like plant-based you know sausages and whatever's you might want they have a lot of organic vegetables they have and they have a really large wine department and they have screaming deals on their wine but this is how I choose a bottle of wine it's not hey what kind of wine do I love what particular brand do I love it's which one of these used to be 20 bucks and is now 10 bucks and they market on the tags very clearly so I'm just going around I mean I will know what color i'm looking for whether it's white or red and there's some i will totally admit that like the movie sideways put me off of merlot which is kind of silly because i think merlot probably can be really good but so i'll probably be looking for like a pinot noir that's sort of a default setting for me and then it just becomes which one of these used to be a lot and now which one am i getting the largest discount on and that's what i go with that's that's interesting i wouldn't have

guess that um but uh i like that i'm glad that you don't fall into the trap of um well this wine is the most expensive therefore it must be the best because i think there's something and again i'm not a wine person there was a time where i was friends with a wine person i sat next to him and i studied him no and so like we were drinking a lot of wine i was thinking about it a lot more and like i felt like the my big takeaway from from that relationship well was that we i gave a speech at his wedding that was one takeaway but also that like no the fun part of knowing about wine is not overpaying for it for finding the great deals like almost like finding a good record in the crates you know absolutely i also think my personal experience is that if i if you were to

pour me a glass of three dollar a bottle wine or a glass of wine that was twenty dollars a bottle i bet you that i would taste a difference most of the time would but if you poured me a glass Of a $20 wine Versus $200 wine I do not think I would be able to tell you the difference Like it does not continue To improve You know with every dollar Additionally spent now there are people who can Tell the difference and have very refined palates I am just not one of them

I think I might have told You this but I was like kind of I don't know if impressed with myself is the right Term but I kind of pleased the way something Turned out a while back actually I know when This was it was my birthday because you know my birthday I don't really go out or do much for my birthday but I think we like whatever day of the week it was it might have even been a weekend but I was like no I just want to stay in and I think we I think I decided I wanted to cook something put her around in the kitchen drink some wine and so Vives and I were doing that and we uh and I don't know we finished off one bottle of wine or something maybe we had half a bottle already started I don't know what it was but as I'm putting around the kitchen I'm like hey I'm gonna open another bottle of wine And I grab one off of our wine rack and I open it up and it might have even been a Burgundy. I don't recall exactly, but it's probably something along those lines. That's what I like. And I and I opened it up and I taste. I'm like, Genevieve, this is great. I was so I was like, this is amazing wine. It might have been a Beaujolais. It was something that I drink like enough of. And I was like, Genevieve, try this. And I tried. And then we later realized or pretty quickly realized, oh, this was some wine that Genevieve bought at auction. That was a very expensive bottle of wine. I mean, by our standards, because, again, you know, I'm not buying expensive wine, but it's like it was really nice and confirming. I didn't know we had a really nice bottle of wine on the shelf. And the fact that I grabbed one and was like, oh, it wasn't like just planted in my head. Oh, I paid a lot of money for this wine. So, therefore, I was primed when I drank it to be thinking about the notes or whatever, because I don't I don't do that. I don't have any knowledge of that stuff. But you could tell it was good wine, and it was sort of affirming to me that good wine is good wine. It was a blind test. Exactly. It was an accident. And Genevieve was very happy, by the way. It wasn't one of those things where it's like, you drank the good wine. Genevieve was like, that's great. That's why we had it, and it's your birthday.

So good on you. Becca used to work at a place in the – I have spent now a lot of time in the Willamette Valley, more than I probably ever expected to, which is kind of the land of really good Pinot, and also Pinot Noir that is. and also a lot of other great wines, but she worked at a place called Domain Serene, which is a really, really well-regarded winery in the Willamette Valley. And I guess if you work in the wine industry, sometimes when you like, the reward, like there'll be all these promotions and they give you like $300 bottles of wine if you sell the most memberships or whatever. And it just seems like there's a lot of people paying people in wine. and so somehow she has acquired this like really nice collection of wine and the thing is some of it you kind of need to consume sooner rather than later i know the thought on wine is like oh you know i want a 1000 year old wine that will be the best it's like no there's a range and so she's sometimes like okay we got to start working through some of these and i'm like it's very nice it's a Nice perk. Yeah, that's good.

dating her but i'm also like this is somewhat wasted on me i mean i'm you know i'm glad it's not like i have the world's largest collection of charles shaw that we need to work through it's like like this is good stuff what year is this barefoot i did buy some menage a trois the other day because it was fitting that like i've always like i first of all i think that's like possibly one of the worst names for a wine um and that's really saying something because if you spend much time in the wine section of a large grocery store or BevMo or whatever people really not everyone who can own a winery or have a wine should have a wine based on the names they give some of these wines

I thought you were going to get into the celebrity wine shit which is

a whole other thing I did once apologize to a life size Martha Stewart cut out at this Fred Meyer because I thought it was a person I'd lumped into I am not shitting you she and Snoop Dogg have like a 21 crimes or something i think 21 crimes was like already a wine and then they just realized uh well both snoop dogg and martha have done time so we'll have them as our spokespeople but they have a full like it's like a 5 10 cut out of martha stewart that is very lifelike and i was just like doing something i had my mask on and i turned i was like oh i'm sorry and then i realized i was apologizing to a martha stewart that's funny cut out but like just yeah some of the bottles of wine some of the labels it's like people trying to be edgy and stuff it's just like okay everyone please calm down but anyway menage a trois is one that i i think of as being especially regrettable but again it was a bottle that was normally like 25 and it was going for 10 and i was like i gotta follow the rule um and i don't think it was bad wine but then i think i heard or read somewhere somewhere like weeks later someone using that kind of wine as a punch line

kind of like you just did with barefoot i know of barefoot i don't know maybe i've seen menage

and just it didn't register with me but that was like oh did i just totally like did i just pay ten dollars for like a laughable bottle of wine but i mean if you paid ten dollars for a bottle

of wine you enjoyed i mean that's that's that's a deal um i uh oh man you know i was thinking do you think that tbtl this is maybe do you think we should have an official wine sponsor maybe that maybe that's going too far what about an official turkey wine

All right, let's do a little music for your weekend before we head on out. Andrew, what song would you like to play today?

So this is a little song that came across my, you know, came into my inbox via press release earlier this week. It's by somebody I've never heard of before, Matt Cavell. And it also has Bonnie Prince Billy on it as well. Oldham. What's Oldham's first name? Will Oldham aka Bonnie Prince Billy I'm not somebody who's like super steeped in Will Oldham's music although I know that he's kind of beloved among I think hipsters of our generation but you know the reason the name of this song by this guy Matt Cavell featuring Bonnie Prince Billy is called Find Love and the reason I like it I think is because this summer I've just really been I mean I know I always listen to oldies style music but I've been listening to a lot of just like kind of very gentle music from the 60s you know you and i i just bought a chad and jeremy record the other day which is signed by the way i paid three dollars for it i brought it home and i realized it's signed but like turns out a signed edition of a chad and jeremy greatest hits on vinyl still goes for three dollars on the app anyway um so i was just kind of listening to that kind of stuff and this isn't chad and jeremy but like this is a new song this song has been on youtube for like i don't know a week now and it's only got like i don't know 200 listens it seems to be kind of under the Radar. This Matt Cavell character, I don't know if he's really a character, he's released a whole bunch of solo records. I think he was originally an LA guy who's making music in Austin now, and I just found this to be very much in that vibe. It's just like a good summer vibe song, acoustic-y, and just kind of hit me the right way. So take a listen to this. This is Find Love by Matt Cavell.

Will you find your love In a place where you belong Or dream of something new Something I can tell you Will you find your love In a dream or a vision A new reality I've never given you I'd like to be real

It has a little throwback vibe to it, doesn't it? Yes. That feels, yeah, I'm hearing the Chad and Jeremy and the just kind of like, yeah, 70s vibe, but in a really kind of comforting. Summer breeze kind of way. Yeah. That's good. I like that a lot. I have a slightly odd song that I want to suggest. It's by somebody who makes music under the name Costanza And this person For a period of time Was putting out these They were calling them mixtapes But a lot of them were just like Maybe between seven and nine minutes long But they would just be They were songs And sometimes they would have audio from Seinfeld All of it is Seinfeld related And in terms of the names You know the names The songs love the names like Puffy Shirt Or you know Something that's a Seinfeld bit now that sounds like it could be a joke but like a tc tugger andrew it's not a joke you don't buy them as a joke no it's actually really good music and that one of the albums that this person put out and i say this person because i can't i went to their band camp page i can't find a lot about if this is a group or one person or i don't know a lot of details about costanza but i really like this song george i think it's off of the album is called george i put a link to the sound cloud in

there i don't know if you were or to the band camp rather yeah the link actually goes to a song called costanza off a record called george by costanza is that okay good so it's not confusing at all yeah so the song is called costanza it's off the album george i believe and i think this

album george is a compilation of all of the quote-unquote mixtapes so it's like a whole bunch of these little kind of shorter things that were released that are all on the same album and most importantly andrew i learned that this kind of music is i believe called vapor wave why because i was reading in the band camp comments and people were being like this is some of the tightest vapor wave out there and i was like okay i guess i've learned something today so can we just listen this is just pretty much instrumental there's a little i think there's a little george woven in here but can we take a listen to this let me ask you something what do they get for a tune of on this

Thank you.

i vaped there you go it's a one minute song i like it that's the song now i will mention that the other tracks are kind of more a little bit more like um frenetic i actually like that i like that vibe i would listen to i would listen to like four hours of that exact vibe yeah very chill very chill wave very chill whatever the other ones uh the other songs are all kind of they're listenable and catchy to me but they're much more upbeat and that might be more what the more the vapor wave version of it is but i just thought it was kind of interesting um this uh person Costanza or persons whoever's putting together Costanza uh they're doing a nice job

you know what it reminds me well I mean it just this music doesn't remind me of this but um you know when you and I first started hanging out as friends and we're gonna start hanging out as friends that was my Kiwi accent it was rough could you even tell what I was trying to do there I'm not totally here I know that was really rough here let me just play for you what I was trying to do there sorry uh it was from flight of the concords who's um uh who plays the manager in flight of the concords reese darby um i will often play uh him talking about being friends like in that show friends um how about this jesus andrew you're ruining the show we hang out like

friends like the friends from that program friends okay so that's what i was doing there Friends from that program Friends. We hang out like friends, like the friends from that program Friends.

Damn it, I love it, but I cannot do the accent. You'll know when I'm doing the accent. Anyway, I feel like when you and I first started hanging out, that would have been around, I think, 2011 or something like that, and we discovered that we were both obsessed with some of the same things pre-our friendship. Like, you and I are cultural.

journey has been so intertwined since then you know that like we're playing music for each other and discovering things together or what have you um but you and i both really like that wall a mixtape the mixtape about nothing which had a lot of seinfeld um yeah i mean that was a great record with some great social commentary in it some great fun in it and and what held it all together was the um the drops from seinfeld it was the mixtape about nothing and and it addressed um you know the Michael Richards using the N-word on stage and going off. It was a great, great record. But hearing George Costanza sort of bathed and dropped into that music reminded me of that a little bit.

Yeah, totally. I was like, how many different musical projects that do play Seinfeld audio am I going to be into in my lifetime? This makes two, which seems like a lot, actually. Yeah, it does. All right. From Costanza to Caramanza. That's the listener in Chicago who's suggesting our listener track for the week. Caramanza says, Hey, guys, I was at the beach slash lake here in Chicago with my pup, enjoying the great weather, sipping on a Topo Chico hard seltzer and doing random deep dives on 60s-era artists and music as I'm wont to do on a Friday evening, a.k.a. a Blur's Day. That's funny. For all the things that I've said about Thursday, the Friday of the middle week, I've never thought of calling it Friday's Eve. Yeah, right. Christmas Eve. Yeah, sure. Because Thursday is kind of Friday Eve, right? Like you're starting to slide into that weekend a little bit. As I was getting into the story of Miami's First Lady of Soul, Helene Smith, I really got into her catalog. I think both you and Andrew would really like a lot of her music. One of her more upbeat songs was actually released in 2019. It's a great summertime listen. Hope you guys enjoy the song as much as I do. Power out listener Caramanza. Now, Caramanza included a bunch of links, actually, in their email to the music and then also to a documentary that was made about Helene Smith. She basically was in this soul scene in Miami and was releasing records and then just kind of became disillusioned with the music business. I think it's happened to so many people, particularly artists of color in a certain era. So then she became a schoolteacher, and she did that for many years. And then when she retired, she sort of wanted to get back to her roots as a soul singer. And so she did. And she recorded this album in 2019. And there's a documentary about her. And I didn't really realize that Miami had a soul scene, per se. But anyway, if you're interested, Google Helene Smith or Google the Miami's First Lady of Soul. You'll get all this information. So the song that Caramanza wanted to suggest is Let a New Day Begin. So that's how we're going to go into the weekend, a little Helene Smith. and we will say thank you to all of you for spending the week with us thanks for being part of TBTL we are going to be back here on Monday with more imaginary radio for you until then have a great weekend stay safe take care of yourselves go mariners and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

I can be a lover Or I can be a friend I know what I want now I don't have to pretend Now I'm much wiser Do you hear what I say? I'm so much stronger I'm on my way I can see the sunshine I see a brighter day I'm so much stronger now you know we're living in a society we're supposed to act in a civilized way power out