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Guys, you get a lot of B-52s.

Yes. I have no idea why I have Fred Schneider's solo album. Why did I buy this funky little purchase?

Is that your Fred Schneider? Yeah. Why did I buy this funky little purchase?

We have our own Freds. Okay.

TBTL! Oh, look at this. What have we got here? We've got some big, bad voodoo daddy. We've got some cherry poppin' daddies. Lots of daddies.

Are you all afraid? No. Daddy's here for you, my widow angels.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you've just been kind of hanging around a lot lately, which isn't a bad thing, but it's also not a good thing.

See you later, suckers. I'm taking myself on a hot air balloon ride.

all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a tuesday edition of tbtl the show that just

might be too beautiful to live it's like someone punching your brain but in a weirdly satisfying

way my name is luke burbank i am your host i'm a professional look it up in the book coming to you from the hollywood broadcast center right here in portland oregon where it is sunny but it is not 100 degrees oh ma just huh it's just beautiful never knew how much i wanted to live in a place where it's only 73 degrees on a summer day it's it's absolutely spectacular outside inside my apartment things are getting slightly more spectacular cleaner i've been running around uh like a nutcase this morning clean that's your mama's forehead I cleaned the apartment because I'm going to Los Angeles later today. I'm going to be out of town for a few days for TV story stuff. And for some reason, that's when I decide I'm really going to get serious about deep cleaning things and changing my sheets and making sure everything is spick and span because I love coming back from a trip and having everything in order in the house. I also had to take the cat over to Becca's. If I sound a little out of sorts, I got a call from one of my neighbors saying the house I'm remodeling turned into a fire hazard because of some kind of weed that's growing. I got a lot going on internally as I try to externalize episode 3740 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. Let's just focus on the important things in life right now, people. Let's take our mind off of fire hazards and put them on. apparently the most popular food ingredient in america right now the pickle we're running into a little bit of a pickle story in the new york times today about how they're putting pickles in everything story in the washington post about pickle pizza being a smash hit i mean could you say it's hot dill summer i cannot believe he just told that joke it was actually terrible the problem as the Washington Post already stole the joke I would have made, which is that pickle has really become a big dill. I cannot believe he just told that joke. They had already taken that joke, and so then I had to try to... I don't even think hot dill summer really works conceptually, but I gave it a try. And yes, they are putting it on pizza and making pizza. Sometimes you gotta stop and smell the pizza. Which I would 100% eat, actually. Kind of looks good to me. So we'll talk about all that, plus emails and v-mails, with this guy, the longest-running co-bro of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. Among many things, he is... He's my sweet cheese. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Shoot to dill. Diller be dilled. Ooh, what else we got? Why so violent? Put it on my dill. What else? Add it to the dill. Add it to the dill. Dill with it, Cate Blanchett. Oh, dill with it! Actually, that was the Yes. As you were talking, I was trying to come up with them, and I thought of that, then it left my head before I could... I like Dill With It. I'm naming the show Dill With It. Love it. All right. Good. We're good here. Nothing will be done.

I have a lot of stuff I have to do this morning, Andrew.

Good luck to all. Hey, Luke, really quickly. Do you remember yesterday... Do you remember anything about yesterday's program, by the way?

Yes, I do. I remember that it was a Monday. Uh-huh. Good. So far, so good. We had a guest on. That's pretty much it.

Oh, yes, of course. We had our friend Kat Solon was on the show. We were talking to her. She was on the phone. For some reason, the call dropped. I tried to call her back in the middle of the show. We ran into a very strange situation where instead of a ringtone, we heard this.

Please hold while I try to locate the person you are calling. Hmm, this is very fancy. What the hell?

This is really weird. Oh, it's like a ringback. But this didn't happen the...

Oops, I think we have the wrong number.

That was yesterday's show, Luke.

Now it's confusing because you're also hearing us talking. That wasn't us today, Tuesday, August 2nd talking. Everything you just heard was from last week's show. Next week's show is going to be about senior citizens. That's right.

So that was all a flashback. That was what happened yesterday when we tried calling Cat back, but I dialed the wrong number and accidentally called overseas, and we heard that weirdness. Well, a lot of people wanted to weigh in on what that song is. Now, I will say this. At first blush, a lot of people were like, dude, that is the beginning of Ready or Not by the Fugees.

I'm sorry, no You got there Have you heard the Fugees? What's that? I'm saying that was definitely not the Fugees

Ready or not

Well, the thing is, what it is, is it's this song by Enya that is sampled in that song by the Fugees So no, that is from the Fugees song And we heard from a lot of people saying, hey, that's the beginning of Reddit or not Ready or not Reddit or not would be a good subreddit Another good show title, though Is that where you watch the Mariners games?

Yeah

And I want to give credit. I think our pal Ruby was the first person to point this out on the Slack channel. Although, Luke, I don't know how to pronounce any Enya songs. It's a Boadicea by Enya. That can't be right.

I'm thinking of Bocephus, which is one of Hank Williams Jr.'s characters, I believe.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of. But anyway, there it is. That's the Enya song that we heard on that callback. And it's the intro to Ready or Not by the Fugees as well.

Okay, but can I hear the Fugees version? And I think, here we go Okay, you know what? I stand down I guess maybe I just never listened to the album Extended cut

Ready or not I think that's how the song always begins

I guess I just haven't been listening carefully enough Because I feel like the song Ready or Not by the Fugees I used to I used to really like that song And how I didn't realize The fact that the enniness of it missed me He was, I'm surprised at myself, at my lack of careful listening.

Well, I think it's a slow ramp up. But, yeah, so anyway, that was kind of satisfying to hear from folks who—

But nobody knows who that guy we talked to was, who I assume was in— Now, can I just tell you the visual I have on the person who ended up answering the phone? Yeah. He works in the exact middle of a giant, completely, like, obsidian black skyscraper building. Mm-hmm. Okay? So imagine just a huge rectangle of black glass you can't even see inside, and on the middle floor, when we're talking from floor one to 100, so on the 50th floor, and in the office that's the most in the center of the 50th floor, that guy, there's one light on, it's him. That's the whole operation.

But that's who we called. Surrounded by banks of futuristic-looking kind of computers? Yes. Yes, okay, that's how I – do you get vibes like the TV show Maniac that I believe you put me onto a while back?

Yes, Maniac meets Severance meets, I don't know, one other thing I can't think of off the top of my head. But like that just – there's something about that song. Also, if that's – I mean if this is a – if that's a personal phone number we're calling, that's an – I would say that's an intense statement with your ringback. Or if that was actually some kind of corporate IT help, also an intense statement from – because he said something about data or something – he said something that was computer-related, which is part of where this imagery in my head is coming from.

Yes. And in the moment yesterday, I was thinking that I called some number that often gets like some business number within an organization that calls are often transferred to. And I thought that's what he was referencing, but maybe not unlike Genevieve's phone number from Boston in which she often will get phone calls from people trying to reach some doctor. There's some typo somewhere on the Internet where she gets like a lot of calls from people trying to reach their doctor. And so she does the right thing, of course, and pretends to be a doctor and prescribes medications. And I wonder if this guy gets a lot of phone calls. Maybe this is a personal phone number and he just gets a lot of phone calls from, you know, confused people who are trying to reach some business. Take a listen again. But this didn't happen.

Data Center United, Mayan Zoo.

Oops, I think we have the wrong number. My apologies.

Don't worry. Okay. Bye. You speak with Data Center, huh?

No. And then I hung up. Yeah.

nervous and I hung up too soon I probably should have seen how that played out well first of all I believe that person clearly is fluent in two languages because I believe that they answered in a language that I didn't recognize immediately and then when they heard you speaking English they then just flawlessly shifted over to English and then like you said I believe he said something like you got transferred from the data center yeah I guess he did say that you got transferred I think might actually support your theory that basically it's one of those things where for some reasons someone is sending the wrong people to this number on a semi-regular basis probably not for the reasons we ended up there we ended up there because we were trying to call cat back and we didn't put the right country code in but other people are probably getting sent there because his numbers won off from some other operation yeah maybe i just really do need to know more about this guy who has this enya ring ring back who's getting all the misplaced data center calls and who sounds very erudite by the way yeah very and also like just the ability

to switch between languages like that like yeah that's what i would do if somebody called me

that's it that you should have said that for me you should have said that yesterday

um yeah i i've tried like and again without i don't want to um talk about cat's personal phone number too much but like i tried googling around you know having that number and seeing like if you add country codes to it like but i can't i can't get it to i mean you know how google when you don't get the results you want you usually get something just like something that is like at the bottom of the internet literally when i type it in i get a picture what was it it was like a cartoon of something fishing that just said there's literally zero google results

for this which is almost impossible yes and it's you do feel like oh crap i went to the edge of the internet yeah like how you couldn't find what it's a series of numbers you can find a spreadsheet google right like that's yeah it's there's something that's a little unsettling when you little silver steamy when you put yeah exactly that is oh that's where the sidewalk ends i guess huh because there's just we were talking a lot yesterday on the show it must have felt almost infinite the amount of conversation we were having andrew about monkeys and typewriters and The internet does feel pretty infinite And so when you somehow render it finite It's like, what? How? Yeah, you should be able to type Any amount of gibberish Into the internet, and someone else Should have typed in that version of gibberish For some other unrelated reason, but at least it will

Find that. Exactly, especially if it's You know, a word here, a word There, you'd think you'd be able to find something But I guess in this case it's numbers, I would think that would be Lower hanging fruit for my search engine Of choice, but I guess not. Well, you know what?

It's kind of – it's nice to sometimes not know the answer to everything. Like it's satisfying to get an answer and it's also – I've been talking about this a lot and it might sound sort of like a shtick, but it's not. I am kind of feeling this way sometimes. There was something kind of fun about not knowing everything, you know, pre-internet or pre-smartphones. The Andre the Giant picture is a perfect example of that. Yes, exactly. That existed only in an analog situation until I ruined that. but you know what i am the only one who has the high res i mean i guess the photo mat but i don't think they really care the photo lab but i now have the only scanned high res photo of that and then i guess you because i transferred it to you god dang it i was supposed to be like the only guy listening to the wu-tang record that was supposed to be me the only one who had the digital version of that photo because of course the one we put up on the show page was a picture i took with my phone but it's got the glass and the frame it's not you know it's not the super

high res thing so you're the only person who i know who aspires to be martin screlly by the way well you notice i didn't use his name but you're like it's less about martin screlly that guy

i didn't say i want to be like him i don't want to marry a journalist who started uh who started interviewing me in jail and then left her husband for me which is another weird you know that whole I don't think I knew that part. No, it's bizarre. He is. He's in a relationship with a like a Barron's reporter or some like business weekly reporter who was corresponding with him when he was in jail. And then they fell in love. And then that person left their partner. And now and now her professional job is writing essays like I married the most hated man in America. Oh, that you know what that does ring a bell.

I think I saw that bouncing around. Yes.

Yeah. It's a whole cottage industry now for that one particular journalist. But all of which is to say, I guess my point in this is that it's sort of nice when there's something, like you were referencing the Andre the Giant photo. It's nice when there's something that is actually just kind of maybe one of a kind or exists in one place or just isn't being passed around endlessly across the Internet. And now I may have, though... I may have ruined it for the Andre the Giant photo because now there is a digitized version scan that you have, that I have, that, you know, I don't know really how many people are going to be trying to get their hands on that. But it has now jumped over into the digital realm.

Yeah, and frankly, not the high-res version, but the low-res version of the photo that you just took with your phone was a show pic now for TBTL. So that's digitized and out there. In the same way that we were obsessed with your dad using the, I don't know, it's not really a bitmoji, it's not really an emoji, whatever, the unicorn, brain exploding. Yeah, the unicorn, its brain is exploding because it's so surprised or wowed by something and rainbow stuff is coming out of the unicorn's head. We talked about that all the time, but I wasn't able to find a version of it online, so whatever, we use it as a show pic. now if you type in unicorn brain explode or whatever we call it we are the ones we are the

ones leaving the footprints on the internet now how is it that we the swordsman of slander episode three four two four of all of the ways in which this show would have maybe possibly had some impact on the world or left some trace of its existence behind unicorn brain explosion just That's not the one I saw coming.

Well, it's one of many. Hey, I saw that. Sorry, this is just thinking of memorable TVTL moments. I saw that. I haven't clicked it yet, but the Blue Angels are heading back here to Seattle, and they just released the schedule, Luke. Want to take a trip up north?

Do you think we can ask the people that bought my old house if we could get back on that roof for a hot minute? I've always heard it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission.

I'll meet you up there.

Yeah. Yeah, I saw that, or I think I heard about that maybe during a Mariner's broadcast. There was some kind of promotion for that. And I will say, and I can't even count the number of times I've said an exact version of this when the topic comes up, I am not a fan of the military-industrial complex. I saw a headline the other day that was talking about the USPS. I'm sorry, Randy is just working away in the background because, like I told you, We are getting this apartment ship shape finally in just in time to not be here for five days. But I saw somebody talking about how the USPS is laying off something like 5000 employees so that they can move towards profitability. And somebody said, OK, do the army next. Like if we're trying to trim. Yeah, we're trying to trim bloated governmental organizations. Let's go with some of the you know. Anyway, all of which is to say that—and we have a surprising number of listeners who have served in the military or are currently in military service, and none of what I'm saying is a reflection on those individual people. But I do think as an organization, the military is not something that has been generally underfunded. Ironically, the people in the military have been. They don't get paid enough. They don't get taken care of when they're out of the military. But as far as $8 billion sword rockets, we've got those. You know that they think maybe that the missile that killed the Al-Qaeda's leader in Afghanistan, there is some speculation that it may have been a version of one of these Hellfinder missile or something that instead of blowing up, it actually chops the person up with a sword. What?

No.

Yes.

There is some speculation. That is like something out of somebody who can't quite picture the future well. You know what I mean? They live by the sword. They die by the sword. But in the future, we'll have missiles that will go to somebody's house and then use a sword.

Right, exactly. like they're like it will use gps incredibly precise gps guidance um to to shoot this you know incredibly expensive and calibrated piece of weaponry out of a drone of an unmanned drone and then when it gets there it'll club them it'll club them with a big club it will pull out a bow and arrow it'll shoot an arrow at the person um there is uh and the thing is that the um all i was going to say is for all of my hesitation about the military god darn it if those big airplanes don't give me a strong reaction in fact even here in portland and i can see these from my apartment window because in the far distances the portland airport and there's a national guard installation out there and they fly those things like every you know it's not like the blue angels they're not doing a show for the people standing around but it will be not uncommon for me to look out the window and just see like three i don't know like f-14s just like doing maneuvers and i even in that case i'm just like oh my gosh that's so freaking cool yep i know me too i mean same

with fireworks like i understand like why fireworks why people don't like them and also like again with even the backdrop of just like let's celebrate this country and like by exploding a bunch of stuff and scaring dogs and all the bad things like i understand why people

don't like them but i also i'm not gonna lie and pretend i don't like them like the thing is yeah

i like them i know it's so like i know get they need to give greenpeace some am i still allowed to like greenpeace is someone gonna educate me on greenpeace doesn't believe in some um this is india today by the way okay what is hellfire r9x missile believed to have killed al-qaeda leader iman al zawahiri um and uh let's see it's known as the ninja bomb again it's very secretive right like the u.s military like does not want there to be any on the record evidence or or details about what this weaponry does because then i guess they assume that maybe al-qaeda will get a shield you know it's like the new number one will just be walking around with a big shield so when the sword comes out you can go like on guard a missile with a shield right they build a missile with a shield and then oh oh hi it's spy versus spy we finally made it right okay umbrella comes out hellfire rx9 a warhead warheadless missile believed to be equipped with six razor-like blades these missiles do not explode but release knife-like blades hitting the targets with precision to avoid collateral damage to civilians now no confirmation from the u.s if this is what they used i found a sketchy photograph from a different drone attack in syria that the u.s uh had activated and there was the wreckage seemed to indicate that this machinery this ninja sword machinery was what was used but wait that was you who found the blurry thing or you're reading that you were no no i mean and yesterday i basically i saw a tweet from our friend peter Segal hosted wait wait don't tell me and apparently military weaponry enthusiast and he was like this is really unreal check out what they think they used over there and so then I kind of went down a rabbit hole a little bit but anyway yeah the indication is that because in this Al Zawahiri nobody else apparently as far as what I've heard as of today nobody else died in the attack like it did not I've seen pictures of what is purported to be this kind of mansion um in kabul where this person died and it's pretty wild because the mansion is not exploded there's like two windows are gone like that's like you would think you'd bombed and none of this please don't i don't hope i do not want this to in any way sound like i'm trying to defend any particular u.s policy or make a statement about drone attacks or sovereignty or anything i am so not trying to weigh in on that uh i don't have any interesting takes on that at all i just think it's wild that we might have a missile that has swords coming out of it

right exactly yeah i hope people aren't put off by me laughing about it but it does i just can't i can again obviously it's a very serious topic but like i just can't stop picturing like literally a looney tunes situation where a missile goes over and then it stops and then a bunch of weird things pop out of it like a swiss army knife while it's looking for the sword while it's looking for the katana blade it's like an umbrella a pair of scissors a magnifying glass and they all go back in on their uh on their robotic arms right a rubber ducky right one of

them for it to work one of them has to be totally non-threatening totally like it pulls out the totally non-lethal i guess the magnifying glass would qualify yeah did you ever use the magnifying glass in your swiss army knife i didn't magnifying glass on the swiss army no i didn't know that

that was you know about that no i didn't have it but i had tweezers i had friends who had

that like at some point well because you know the people from the swiss army knife company were just kind of like all right we've sold about as many of these as we can to 11 year old american boys but so we have to add something and at some point one of them had a magnifying glass on it which again i'm actually holding in my hands andrew a swiss army knife that belonged to my dad's dad my granddad farnum burbank f it's and it's got fmb wow etched into it for farnum moss

burbank now that's a hell of a name yes it is and especially to have his boy scout knife from or i don't know if it's a boy scout knife see i did have i did have a boy scout knife if i recall like once you got now when you say boy scout knife do you mean swiss army or are those different i think that the boy scouts had their own knives that were i think they were a maroon color like a swiss army knife but they didn't have quite as many things going on and i could be wrong but i feel like while some of my compatriots had the swiss army knives with a lot of different doohickeys on it i believe i had the boy scout knife which was more basic similar coloring boy scout symbol on it and i don't know if you were in the boy scouts but where i was before we were allowed to use a knife or a or a hatchet or anything sharp we had to get our totem chip badge did you have a totem chip badge well i was uh not a boy scout i was in something called the royal Rangers, which was The Christian, the more Christian version of the Boy Scouts, because, you know, Boy Scouts notoriously progressive and, you know, sort of what's the word I'm looking for, like a secular organization. My church had created a more conservative than the Boy Scouts of America called the Royal Rangers, which I attained the rank of straight arrow, which I think was literally where you start.

I like the way they're like, it's a Christian organization. First, we're going to straighten your shit out. Right, exactly. Straight arrow. It's Adam and Eve arrow. Yeah, right, exactly. In Boy Scouts, I was whatever the crazy straw badge was. I was just all over the place.

But, you know, the thing that's the Swiss Army knife, particularly when you're, I don't want to overly gender it, but I'm just going to talk about my experience as a young boy. There is an obsession with the Swiss Army knife, or there was when I was a kid. And you wanted to have one because it just seemed like you were then ready for anything that would come your way. But to be honest with you, every single thing on the Swiss Army knife was the shittiest version of that thing. Hey, do you want something that is a pretty lousy corkscrew, but also a not very effective Phillips head screwdriver? I've got it. It's called the Swiss Army knife.

What was the least used thing on the Swiss Army knife? I'm going to go first. I'm going to say the awl, if I'm pronouncing that correctly. The AWL, the leather punch.

Yeah, you weren't doing a lot of leather punching. I was not. I heard you were a gaucho in your early days out there riding the range, moving the cows through the pasture and tanning their hides. Yeah. Well, I mean, I never used the corkscrew because I wasn't drinking a lot of champagne. How about the Emery Board?

You wouldn't need a corkscrew for champagne. Sorry. Oh, fair point.

Wine bottle, wine bottle. Okay. Well, anyway, Emery Board.

Oh, right.

Emery Board.

Emery Board a lot. I might have. Actually, I might have used that because, or at least the pointy part of that. You've always been a diva about your nails. To clean out from under your nails. I feel like that's something I don't do as an adult, because I'm probably not just randomly digging in the dirt as much. I'm trying to get back up there, though. Although you're getting back to that. Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying. But I feel like as a kid, I would always have nails that were just a little bit too long and a lot too dirty. And I was always looking for pointy things to scrape the mud out from under my nails. I can feel that.

This thing's got a saw on it. Oh, I remember the saw. I've never pulled everything out I'm going to take a picture of this Maybe this is going to be our show Yeah, that's great That's great

And do you have a fish scale around there? Is that what the saw is maybe? Or are those two different things? Fish scale Like for getting the scales off of a trout that you've caught?

I feel like that was a thing But maybe I'm making that up No, I could believe it There's probably little minor differences too Depending on Like of course This thing I'm holding is from I mean, you know It was my granddad's probably when he was a kid so this is probably from like the 1920s or something you know yeah like this is really old so it's it's it's like um it's kind of like stainless aluminum it's like silver it's not red it's not a so it's not a swiss army you know brand swiss army knife but um it is i'm opening it there's just so much stuff in here that it's like yeah maybe one of these is a fish scaler it's got

two different like saw rated ones i'm looking at the fish scaler of the swiss army knife online so The one that's like a saw, a serrated saw, but then it has a little kind of like a hook at the top of it and then like kind of a snake's tongue tip, that would be the two scale. I don't have that one, I don't think.

But then, you know, the other thing that I do feel like I used actually was the little – I can't believe how visual this conversation is. I apologize to the listeners. There's like a little thing that almost looks like if you look at it from the side where the little indentation is so you can use your fingernail to pull it out. So if you're looking at it from that side, it looks like a snapping turtle, and it was for, like, opening a can of juice or something that didn't have, or a can of, like, tomato soup.

Yeah, yeah, I can picture that.

I'm old enough that, like, you could still buy pre-made drinks in a can that didn't give you any easy way into the can, right? Yeah, yeah. Because not everything was, like, a soda can or a seltzer can now, where obviously you just have the pop top that you pop. It would be unconscionable It would be unlikely now that they would sell you Some kind of orange juice or whatever And it would be in a can where you had to go Figure out a way to get access to the liquid But I'm old enough that when I was a kid There were such things And it was very cool on a summer day To go to the 7-Eleven or whatever Buy one of those and then use the Swiss Army knife Whatever that function is To pop into the can I just felt very cool doing that

Yeah, I also love the scissors That reminds me of the scissors That was my favorite thing on the Swiss Army knife, and I believe on – I don't know if at some point I probably had a Swiss Army knife, but this was on my Boy Scout knife as well. Those tiny little scissors actually worked, and I loved the action on them. Do you know what I'm talking about? did you find those i've got some scissors on here too i didn't ever i don't think i ever used them i also don't i'm i know this is where every childhood story most of my childhood stories go towards we didn't have a lot of money a lot of yours go towards i had a negative experience with a fellow student uh where there was some bullying involved so i'll just take this to my usual place i i'm pretty sure that the whatever swiss army knife i had was probably kind of a lame one i didn't have this like this i got probably after my granddad died my dad just Brought it by one day and was like hey do you want this But um and this one is actually pretty It's pretty dope I feel like the one I Had was kind of a little chintzy like it was Do we say chintzy anymore Is there are we I don't think that's rooted in Anything bad okay Chintz well chintz is probably Right chintz relates to Um kind of Overly Like chintz is something I think of related to like Drapes and and things Like Liberace Liberace, I think, had a lot of things that would be considered chintz.

Yeah, I didn't realize that. I'm just looking it up now. C-H-I-N-T-Z-Y. The British version means to be decorated with chintz, which is very – it looks like very detailed woodblock printed calico textiles. Or the informal North American is of cheap or poor quality. But I'm surprised it was chintz.

At some point, chintz, like, it basically sort of, like, it changed meaning as it got into America. So it was a specific pattern or a type of fabric or something like that. And then we just took it to mean, like, not great. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Something that is, like, of cheap quality. But it's not based in some kind of, you know, racist thing. I don't think so. Because it sounds dicey, to be honest. Sort of, yeah. I mean, yeah, a lot of stuff does. But anyway, this is now very exciting, Andrew. Not for the listeners ever, but for me, because I have now reached complete tumescence with this, you know, I know it's not exactly what I was looking for, but I thought it would be funny. I have really, this is every single item of this Swiss Army knife or whatever you want to call it, utility knife, whatever. That's not really what it is because utility knife is a different thing. That's more like a box cutter. But every single item. Oh, you have it all pulled out? It's all pulled out. Like fanned out? It's all fanned out.

And I'm going to take a picture later, and we'll make it the show picture. Like QFC style. Like you want to kind of show everybody what this thing's got. As in the grocery store? Oh, did I say QVC is what I meant? Sorry. Boy, when I moved to Seattle, whenever I saw QFC, all I could think about was a QVC. Now, a decade and a half later, I forgot that it's QVC. All I think is QFC. Sorry. See? There you go.

You've changed, Andrew.

Yeah. Social engineering.

All right. Let's take a quick break, and then when we come back, we'll talk about pickle flavoring. Because I wouldn't say this is a hot take, but I have an interesting relationship with pickles and pickle flavoring that I want to talk about when we come back here on TBTL. all right let's thank some of our daily donors who are making today's episode possible with their generosity folks like katie anderson in olympia washington what are the chances andrew that i will cut myself on this knife trying to fan everything out interestingly so that it will make for the best photograph. Just be careful over there, please.

Let's not have another situation where you're... I mean, thank God this is dull as shit all these years later. Would you say these donors are kind of like the Swiss Army knife of TVTL? They all provide something different, which is different kinds of money to support the show?

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Aaron, appreciate the support. Tara Simon is in Kew Gardens, New York. Look at that. Kew Gardens. I don't know if I ever went to Kew Gardens when I lived there. That's, I think, in Queens. I think it's relatively close to where Shea Stadium used to be. Sounds nice.

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Kew Gardens, yeah. Daniel Griffin is in Seattle, Washington. I have been there before, and it is a lovely place. It's not dying. It seems pretty good. dude i have been when i was in bismarck and people asked me where i lived and i would say portland i had such so many times i just i literally just started saying don't believe everything fox news tells you yeah yeah you know i mean i literally found myself just saying that all the time it is amazing how pervasive that messaging is dude me and people that don't live in places like seattle and portland this narrative that the cities like seattle and portland are dying um because of woke progressives it's just boy that message has really taken i because i think it also confirms if you're if someone's living somewhere that's not seattle or portland or other san francisco probably uh if someone's living somewhere else and it it confirms in a way their life choices right and i don't mean this for our listeners who are spread out all over the country but for whoever it was that was trying to engage me in a conversation in bismarck about the fact that portland is dying or even the guy i told you when i was in we also want to thank randy grover by the way in bellevue washington bellevue also not dying at all bellevue thriving thanks randy um the guy when i was buying some t-shirts at the um like nordstrom rack i think it was in denver when we were doing the shows from there because i didn't pack enough clothes and the guy at the checkout said you know how's denver i said oh it's nice i'm visiting where from portland and he goes oh yeah that's where they uh that's where that person got shot where there's the no police area and i was like well that's actually seattle you're thinking yeah and and and you would think that maybe that would impact what he now thought about portland since he was thinking of a totally different city right and he was like no but he was undeterred like it it made no difference to him that he had mentioned an incident that happened in a completely different city he was maintaining his his pre-existing opinion about portland because of what he'd heard on the news I presume on the conservative news and yeah it was just kind of amazing and I think for some people maybe like a guy like that there was some kind of sense of like I made the right decision to live where I live because the other places are not going great so that's also probably a reason why people like to buy into that narrative maybe I also do think it's

just like the it's just that there is a group of people and I know a lot of them and I met a lot of them or talked to a lot of them when I was home in Cleveland and they are slowly eliminating their broader diet of media options because everything is too liberal too liberal things that are not things that are just anything that is straight journalism is too liberal because of this and it's like the more you just keep going to the hose of Fox and Fox keeps telling you that they are the ones who are the centrist they are the ones who are right they are the ones who are accurate well then everything else seems super liberal um and so it was kind of heartbreaking to see that and again like i would you know say you know hi to people i hadn't seen in a long time and i would say they'd be like how seattle and they'd have this look of concern and it was really hard to sort of explain that like and again this is done like part of this this propaganda campaign against Seattle is done on Fox TV and radio by a guy you and I used to work with Jason Antebbe who just sits there you know at the Cairo radio and and you know has his conservative talk show here in Seattle but then goes on Fox News as like the insider in Seattle who can who can tell the rest of the nation on Fox how how terrible the city is and how everything's dying and it's so dangerous and you can't get out of bed without stepping on a needle which is true in my case but that's because i put sewing needles all over the floor before i go to bed as a way to not sleepwalk it's a system that i have leave me alone years um but it's just like it was like kind of hard to explain to people that's like no i just bought a house it was completely unaffordable like the reason why it is unaffordable to live in seattle is not because it is dying and it's terrible and it's it's all blown out and lawless because of liberals it is because it is a destination that everybody wants to live in and it's a beautiful place that has some problems as all cities do and we should address those problems i'm not trying to make it sound like seattle is perfect obviously it's not but and i have strong opinions on all kinds of things here that i feel like should be changed but anyway yeah like you know family members telling me things like oh i just saw on the news today how bad the graffiti is in seattle i'm just like why is your publication why do they think that's relevant to you why is that national news and it's just because oh because the libs live there so Therefore, it must be a hellscape of of property crime. And, yeah, there is a bunch of property crime here. But I'll tell you what, like having too much spray paint on the walls during the pandemic, you know, I don't like it, but it's not national news.

Right. Yeah, there is a certain amount of it really is an entire philosophy around trying to, quote unquote, own the libs at this point. There's no coherent, like, it's not a party about actually lowering taxes or actually doing anything other than trying to troll people. And there's an element of that of being kind of like, yeah, these cities that the liberals live in suck now. So that just feels like they're owning the libs. And it's like there's no, there's no, fine, let's say that somebody lives in a different place and they feel like it's fine where they're, which, by the way, is also kind of funny because everywhere you go, I'll tell you one thing that I've learned. Everywhere that I have been in America Of a city of any size They will tell you That people will tell you With a strong degree of certainty And sincerity That some other city Is sending their homeless people to their city Everywhere you go in America People think that they are the city Where the other cities Are sending their homeless people to It can't all be true And it's like I can't even count the number of times that somebody has just said that to me maybe they heard that i'm a reporter maybe we're chatting i tend to go to a lot of kind of dive bars and poker rooms when i'm out and about in america do people have opinions in those types of places sure do and the number of people who have told me like with just the most such certainty that yes but in fact we are the place because we're too permissive and we are the place where everyone is sending their people it's just i'm like this this can't all be true yeah yeah anyway so thanks to the donors of the day we absolutely would not be here it is true that the donors of the day are sending us all of the donations that make sure possible that is so we're gonna say thank you for that hello and welcome to top story in the last two days the probably the two publications that i read them most diligently the new york times and the washington post have both published pieces about pickles andrew i know that's a lot of peas dude a pickle ball anybody get on that yet that's apparently getting on television this weekend we'll see we have breaking news of one of the i don't know guy who voiced puff the magic dragon or something you know might want to do an interview

it could never be too short i love catching you when you're just a slightly bad mood just

slightly only on this topic oh hey guess what uh ertha kits wig designer finally making

themselves available bump the pickleball story somebody i forget the name now but thank you

somebody sent me an email said hey i want to give you an update parade magazine also scooped you

Oh, and the pickleball thing?

Which is sort of, that kind of has two elements to it. One, it hurts to be scooped by Parade Magazine. But also, I think that they really do, other than maybe AARP Monthly, I feel like they really dominate the space of things related to people over the age of 60. Yeah. You know? So it's like, if you're going to get owned on a story that often applies to senior citizens, Parade Magazine might be the place that's going to do it. Anyway, let's see. The Peace and the Times. from pizza to dip chips and popcorn pickle is summer's big flavor this was a piece by christina morales in the new york times um just talking about how obsessed with pickle flavor we all seem to be as a consumer as a food consumer society right now um there's all kinds of new pickle flavored products on the market blue diamond almonds they've got spicy dill pickle almonds uh frito-lay has pickled flavored lip lips maybe after you eat them pickled flavored chips for its lays uh which they say are selling out doritos ruffles also have them trader joe's has a dill pickle falafel um and they said it's dill pickle seasoning blend sold out as soon as

it hit shelves in may can i just do one thing about the pickle chips though and i just brought this up on the show the other day i do feel like pickle chips have been a thing in canada for a long time like i remember going to canada they have pickle flavored chips and ketchup flavored chips and my friend beverly said yeah you get a we we sat there in some sort of elks club and and had a bag of each and it was nice to mix them up i really enjoyed them totally um with respect to

our canadian uh friends who were on the on this trend before us it seems to be going beyond chips though this is what christina's writing in the new york times pickle flavor hits all the right notes for people, especially those under 40, who are looking for bigger, bolder, brighter, and sourer flavor.

Food and beverage researchers have found this to be the case. Pickle seasoning is versatile. It can add sweetness and sourness and is subtle enough to add other flavors, says Sally Lyons, Wyatt, an executive at IRI, a marketing research company. It's a tanginess that appeals to a lot of consumers, especially younger ones. So apparently the young people really like pickle flavor. The thing that I thought was interesting Was the piece that I saw two days ago In the Post, Washington Post From Emily Heil Pickle pizza started as a novelty But now it's a big deal The Indiana And Minnesota State Fairs This year, Andrew, are rolling out Pickle pizza And people are very excited about this There's a couple of Places in D.C. Of course, this is the Washington Post So they cite a pizza place in D.C. that makes a pickles are the star of the Big Mac inspired pizza that Rachel Jennings makes at a pizza place called Boogie and Peel in Washington. This actually sounds kind of good to me, Andrew, even though I'm kind of I tend to be a somewhat of a traditionalist with pizza. Like I don't like barbecue chicken pizza or anything. To me, that just feels like it's not even that I wouldn't enjoy the flavor of barbecue chicken pizza. It's that it doesn't seem like pizza to me And therefore I seem to avoid it Like if I were someone who ate chicken still And I wanted to have barbecue chicken I feel like I would not have it That's not the format that I would consume it in

Yeah, I messed around with that for a little bit On the reg in Concord, New Hampshire There was a pizza place that was relatively new And I really liked their pizza And they made some traditional stuff But they also messed around They had a meatball pizza that I really, really liked It was big They made very large meatballs But then sliced them thin So don't picture balls on the pizza. I've seen that. Yeah. And that was really good. I liked that. And then they also did have a barbecue chicken one. And you're right. It was not it wasn't really like pizza, but it was like, you know, barbecue sauce. And then I think, you know, some sort of cooked marinated chicken breast chunks and then cheese on top. And I enjoyed it. But like since I went through that little phase, like whenever I see that on a menu, I'm just like, nope, that's not for me. And again, I didn't I didn't dislike the flavor, the texture. But like when I'm in the mood for pizza, I'm not in the mood for that. And when I'm in the mood for chicken, I'm not in the mood for that. Right. That's exactly well put.

So here's the pizza that they're making at this place, Boogie and Peel in D.C. It's based on the Big Mac. So basically they put on a layer of the special sauce, which is basically Thousand Island dressing, American cheese, and ground beef. out of the blistering oven the pie is topped with crunchy iceberg lettuce slices of white onion a lashing of more special sauce and house-made pickles this is apparently a big hit at this place now i have to say that actually sounds very yummy to me just because i like pretty much everything that was listed in that rundown of stuff but also that doesn't really seem like

pizza anymore to me that's a kind of a different animal yeah and again wouldn't you rather just have a big or what is it a is it the big mac yeah um i got confused there with the whopper but like that doesn't sound good to me but that's because i don't like you know if i were to get that hamburger i would take that stuff off of it i would say no cheese and no sauce so um obviously that wasn't made for me and i'm not in the norm there but like could you see yourself being in the mood for that pizza or the more you think about it you just want a big mac right that's

i think why i would i mean i would i might have a bite of that i might even be like screw it i'm gonna have you know i'm gonna have a bite of a meat pizza if i was in dc at this place i would you know i might be tempted um but but that would just be for the kind of experimental value of it what i if i was craving that yeah you're right i'm just craving a big mac which i by the way don't ever crave um because i'm not into that sauce that they have on there that thousand island like even when i was a much more regular consumer of mcdonald's food the big mac was never my go-to i was a quarter pounder with cheese guy uh one thing that's not even commented upon in this article in the times is that the big mac pizza that they make at this place is technically called

harambe loved big macs pizza the the monkey the gorilla gorilla that died like yeah it's called is that what the one that did they have to like remind me the story that it was that was the one where some kid got into the enclosure at the zoo and it ended tragically for everyone no i think

so yeah harambe was i'm just reading from the internet now um yeah and they apparently had to put him down um after a kid got into the cincinnati zoo i think it was a quite tragic story and this is just the caption of the photo so if you're looking at the washington post it's got a picture of this big mac pizza underneath it just says and without comment the caption is harambe loved big

Big Mac's Pizza with Special Sauce, Beef, American Cheese, Iceberg, Lettuce, Onions, and Pickles at Boogie and Peel. Like, wow, okay. That's an edgy name for your pizza.

Yeah, I mean, that must have been something that was well known about this beloved chimp, huh?

Yeah, I guess. I don't know if he was a chimp, by the way. Oh, sorry, gorilla.

I keep saying that. I get them all confused, and it makes Genevieve upset when I just say, look at that monkey, and she says, it's a chimpanzee or a gorilla. And I'm just like, eh, I don't know. I'm not a naturist. I just want to know I'm not a naturalist Or a naturist That would mean that I like to Exist as naked as possible Right I believe isn't that a

Yes what is the exact term Because I was going to say naturalist but no that's somebody who Studies nature yeah is it a naturist Is that the kind of term for Nudists basically but they like that one better Because it doesn't seem so

Imagine me being a naturist who also Enjoys Big Mac pizzas That would be the opposite of my personality.

That could only happen if you had a Gilligan's Island-esque coconut on the head.

Yes, and I become the complete opposite person that I am right now. The question is, do you bonk? Because as we know, if you bonk me again, I'll revert. Will people like you and Genevieve and other people in my life love the opposite, Andrew, so much that you try not to bonk me again? Because I'm embracing life so much. I don't need these clothes. I'm cowabunga-ing I'm eating the pizza I'm not even taking slices off the pizza I'm just eating it like a whole disc I'm so wild

You know, I would let that guy have his moment I'd let that one ride for a few weeks I'd let that breathe It'd be fun to see that version of you You're just cannonballing Into every swimming pool you can find It's like we gotta try to get you to put a shirt on I am There's a 0% chance that this is gonna get back to the person I'm referring to, but I'm still going to be incredibly vague. But I took a trip a while ago and was visiting with some people who I didn't really know particularly well, and they were celebrating a kind of a big life event, a married couple around my age, maybe a little bit younger than me. And what I noted was that the husband was very allergic to T-shirts. Now he was also very fit, and I think ate very carefully. So, you know, hey, he earned it. Good for you. But I remember they were getting ready for this. I'll just say this part, baby shower. And people are starting to show up. And my guy is still in jeans, dress, shoes, and no shirt, which is what he was wearing the majority of the time that I was down visiting with these folks. And I just... A little McConaughey. But it was like, here's what I understand.

I understand if it's really warm out and someone's going shorts and no shirt and maybe that's just their vibe you know latitudes and attitudes but the jeans and you get the jeans on and the dress shoes the dress shoes more than anything because I could see I can see a McConaughey style guy with like jeans no shoes no socks no shirt not allowed into a lot of eating establishments that way no service for that person exactly but like I just see to me

it's like if you're not wearing a shirt in public that is and by public i mean just around people that aren't like maybe you're just like your significant other if you're not wearing a shirt i see that as a way of trying to stay cool like it's really warm and so i'm working in the yard and i'm taking my shirt off because i'm you know which i wouldn't personally do but it's a thing people do but if you have jeans on you've already lost the battle on cooling yourself down now it makes no sense to me because i just see it as a practical as a practical thing to kind of keep yourself a little bit more cool um but um that was not what was going on in that one particular visit here's what i want to say quickly about pickle stuff i love pickles i love the patter i i just pickles are some of my i like things that are pickled i really like salt in fact there's this brand that's mentioned in one of these articles called grillos that's kind of getting a lot of i think a lot of people are into it now it's you know they're they're in sort of a almost like a small plastic bucket kind of a thing and they look pretty artisanal but they're they're um pairing with some of these other major brands to do like special release of this kind of grillos flavored you know this chip or pretzel or what have you grillos is a flavoring i'm a little

confused here what is it grillos is a pickle oh a pickle okay sorry sorry sorry okay gotcha yeah

Yeah, it's a brand of pickle, and people are very into it. I'm medium on it, and Becca was saying because it's a little more vinegary, and I am more into salt, so I'm a Clausen guy. Yes. I love Clausen.

pickles but she was explaining that's the reason is because it's pure salt yeah that's what i like

about it and that's probably true i um i'm a clausen guy too through and through have been my whole life but i was in the store the other day and i saw i just looked up gorillos i saw these and i almost bought them because every now and then i do like a fresh deli pickle like that and i see they make some oh pickle de gallo you got me you got me gorillos but yeah i would like to try these every now and then i get it i get try them i will warn you because i had some this

last weekend they're fine they're a little more on the vinegar side for from what i like yeah but what i was going to say is i really love pickles and i will probably eat one a day maybe if i'm home and i have like still you know some clausen in the refrigerator i don't usually find pickle flavored things to actually be scratching the itch that i'm looking to scratch i love pickles i don't often like things that are pickle flavored hmm that doesn't necessarily surprise me i think

there's a lot of things like that because like you know like the flavoring doesn't necessarily screw well i'm now i think i'm taking what you just said too literally so forgive me for that because i'm not trying to misinterpret your point but in a certain way like you might say like okay do you like chili cheese flavored um fritos you'd be like yeah um and it scratches my itch for chili well obviously not it's a totally different thing but it's just like you know it's a flavor approximate or even like i don't like bananas but i'll eat a banana flavored popsicle you know what i mean so like that it's fine for me to to say that like yeah it makes sense that something that claims it's pickle flavored doesn't necessarily doesn't necessarily satisfy you because it's just like i don't know it's an approximation it's just what we end up calling it

right but i just think it's funny that this is the this is the trend that's sweeping america if these two articles are to be believed and it's presumably people who like pickles but i wonder if there isn't a large section of the population that actually just likes pickle flavoring but they're not like eating an entire cloths and pickle every day because i feel like if you really like pickles pickle like you said it's a different it's a kind of a different experience it's not i'm trying to think like uh pickle we this came up either i can't remember if it was on the show or off the show maybe on our text chain with the criminals but we were talking about pickle flavored sunflower seeds dill flavored sunflower seeds which i would think i would love because i love sunflower seeds and i love pickles but no it's too much of that going on for me like i'm i'm trying to think if there's anything that's actually pickle flavored that when i eat it i get the satisfaction or anything close to the satisfaction i get when i'm just

eating an actual pickle and i don't think there is well see i think and i'm trying to again make sure that i'm understanding the thing is that i like i like pickle potato chips pickle flavored like basic thin Lay's style although I don't know if I've ever had the Lay's brand but you know very basic potato chips that is pickle flavored I really like that but I don't think that I like it like the next step that it sounds like you're saying is is it doesn't scratch your itch for a pickle well yeah but I mean a barbecue I mean you might like barbecue you might like going to a barbecue you might like barbecue ribs but like obviously eating a barbecue flavored potato chip doesn't scratch your itch for that it's just a flavor right but I guess what I mean is I don't

think I like the flavor oh okay yeah on other things yeah like I know what you mean because you could eat a barbecue potato chip you could eat some actual barbecue they're not the same but a lot of times if you like barbecue you'll probably also enjoy some element of the barbecue flavoring I'm saying weirdly I don't like things that are mostly in my experience I haven't liked

things that are pickle flavored for how much I like actual pickle yeah I am I have not tried the pickle flavored sunflower seeds I think it was on the show we were talking about it because I was telling you first of all i've seen you and cbs producer john goodwin do a hey dummies video together several months ago now where you were um talking about sunflower seeds and he was he's like an expert in sunflower seeds and then not long after that that that conversation was living in my head because he was saying like you don't get davidson's or david's brand he said if you get david's you're a noob you have to get spitz brand which i i'm sorry i'm a david's guy I'm a noob. But I was driving back from Denver and I don't eat a lot of sunflower seeds, but a road trip, especially by yourself, is a great time to have that because you might not be hungry, but it gives you something to do with with your mouth. You can, you know, enjoy the saltiness of it and you don't have to spit in front of people if you're doing it by yourself. And so I stopped at a, you know, whatever, like a truck stop or whatever, and they had so many different flavors of sunflower seeds, and none of them were just regular. And there were a lot of pickle ones, and they were all jumbo. And I was like, I don't want jumbo seeds. You know me. I like things big. I like big hot dogs and big hamburgers, but I don't need big sunflower seeds. That's not the point.

I think the other takeaway from this, and again, these are just a couple of articles, is that the younger a person is, or at least maybe in a certain age range, they peg it at... 40 I think people do have a little bit different palates also some of that could have to do with aging like I mean famously they talk about you know as people get older you know that the food at retirement homes is usually pretty bland because it's more difficult to tolerate spicy things or things that are like kind of overly flavored I guess but I mean I've lamented what I call the flavor blasting of America yeah where everything is dusted in a layer of something that I just honestly I don't enjoy it because I can't here's the real thing I don't enjoy it because I can't consume very much of it like I can eat a regular Dorito probably I could probably eat like 10 of them and not feel like total garbage and I'm not talking about calorically I'm saying my actual mouth like getting just overwhelmed by all of the whatever flavorings But if you're trying to give me some like Baja blasted dill, you know, I don't know what else, like throw a few other things, baconated Doritos, like I could probably eat half of one of those before the amount of flavoring just overwhelmed me.

But that reminds me of a tweet that I saw just the other day and actually found it here. It actually Twitter Twitter search engine actually worked for once somebody who is currently going. by Trash Jones on Twitter. Oh, sure. Tweeted out the other day. Do you know this? Do you follow this account? I just know that account. Do you? I am not having a Baja blast. I'm actually kind of having a Baja hard time, which is such a good here. So I'm going to follow Trash Jones. That is a really good spook, isn't it?

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man, it's not from a female.

all right quick email or v-mail yeah i wanted to um follow up with something here i don't have the original voicemail but we played it on the show the other day and this is not this isn't huge or important in any way other than we received a voicemail that raised a lot of questions for me and this was a voicemail from listener emily um who said that she was i believe in a fast food drive through line in her car and she has one of those TBTL either window clings or bumper stickers that listener Jamie was making for the 10s a while back and while she was in line waiting to place her order or get her food somebody in a car behind her a man got out of his car came up to her window on the driver's side and asked her if TBTL stood for too bad Trump lost do you remember this voicemail okay yeah so i was confused by that she called just like in the moment while she was in her car uh which i love i love whenever it's anybody's first instinct just to call us in the moment good on you um but i was like well what was the i wrote back to emily i'm like what was the vibe of this guy like was he somebody who seemed like a trump supporter and was trying to bro down with you was it somebody who was just making a weird joke like why would a why what did this man look like why would a man just ever think it's okay to get out of his car in a drive-through line and invade somebody's privacy like that I would have been freaked out no matter what the person said unless they said like I need help you never do that that seems so weird anyway Emily returned my email and said this fella didn't read as a Trump supporter to me he was maybe in his 60s and kind of seemed androgynous I just laughed and I was like no no no no it's a it's a podcast tb tells a podcast and he was happy with that answer then he asked where i got my cute heart slash ukrainian flag sticker which is another bumper sticker in our car it's a ukrainian flag i'm assuming in the shape of a heart um which also tells me that he's probably not a trump supporter i was freaked out at first and then i thought it was cute then as he walked away i was just a little bit like what happened also sorry for the poor audio quality I was just excited to call you in the moment Yeah that's I guess that Sort of answers those questions I mean it does answer my questions but it still is So bizarre what goes through Anybody's mind I would feel I would feel very uncomfortable if somebody approached me In that manner

Sounds like this was a person who just Doesn't The person who approached our listener Who just doesn't have kind of the same Boundaries that a lot of us have Maybe not you know terribly so Like, you know, it sounds like it was a reasonably OK interaction, but that most of us, I think, you know, eight out of 10 of us would just never consider getting out of our car and going to start up a conversation with someone else about that. But there are people who do do that for a variety of reasons.

And it sounds like this person was one of them. Yeah, very, very strange. I want to read one more quick email and then we'll get you out of here. Oh, I see. Actually, I told you we'd be out by eleven thirty and I'm going over. I can save this email for tomorrow if you're in it.

If you're in a tight pinch here to get out of here today, Luke, you know, I'm always

tightly pinching myself during the show, but that's kind of a medical personal situation. But yeah, maybe we should wrap it because I do have to catch this flight. And again, I can't overstate this. For some reason, I decided to take on like four projects this morning that I didn't need to deal with this morning, except I don't know why my brain just said, you know, wash all the sheets and change the bedding and like you know what i mean i don't know why i decided to no that's very relatable we should talk that into a not enough time on a day that i'm actually flying somewhere but it just became i woke up kind of early and my brain was just like we're

getting this done and then once you start then you kind of can't stop and also there is something about traveling and coming home to a clean place and there's probably also something about feeling like you want to control your space a little bit these are feelings i think so yes i had to make

sure that the litter although now that you told me andrew about your old practice of just dumping the whole thing sure yeah damn that's an approach maybe i just i just i let it go for a couple days and then i just get rid delete the whole thing but and i did not do that this time i continued my scooping ways but all right so that's going to do it for today's show safe travels we're going to be back here uh tomorrow thank you with another episode i'll be uh in los angeles so we'll tell you how things are going down there um until then have a great tuesday take care of yourselves uh go mariners i'll just keep saying it sure doesn't have to have any impact but i'll say it uh and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all of course you can't go wrong with some sour cream and onions so long as you're bring ridged chips. Power out.