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August 31, 2022 | 01:39:16 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke is ready to make some real changes in his life, and Andrew thinks he should start with a Battery Daddy. Plus, a crypto company accidentally sent a woman a million bucks, and now they want it back.
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The video shows Robbie Stratton running through a convenience store with an alligator in his hands. He takes the animal in the beer fridge as well. I don't even remember coming up here. We asked Stratton where the alligator came from. No clue. No clue. This store sells some good liquor, and I drank a lot of it that night. They told me what I did was stupid, and I'll be facing some charges here soon. Probably go to jail, probably not. We'll see. TBTL!

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when i eat hot cheetos i get crazy i just love hot cheetos i love them so much

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daddy's gonna dish out some daddy discipline as a fellow daddy i approve stop saying daddy

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you've got a papa bear i'm not handling this well i don't feel competent i'm depressed we're the number one show in hospitals and on sinking riverboat casinos this is not your mama's podcast

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This is Too Beautiful to Live. All right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Wednesday edition of TBTL. The show just might be too beautiful to live.

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We'll go a little bit longer, we'll push a little harder, and we'll think a little deeper and a little sharper.

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My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host.

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You're like the Daniel Day-Lewis of only doing one thing.

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Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center, right here in Portland, Oregon, where it is going to be a beautiful day. Oh, ma, pa, it's just beautiful. Also scorchingly hot. Mid-90s probably. So if you're out here in the west, hope you're going to be able to stay cool today. Give you some of my tips to beat the heat. Actually, you know what? I'll leave that to the local TV news anchors. But you can probably imagine what they'd be telling you. I'm here to tell you that this is episode 3761 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. I saw something on HBO Max last night that just absolutely floored me.

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I'm so excited about this show.

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I'll tell you about a guy named Whitmer Thomas' comedy special. It's not even new. I think it's like four years old. It's been out for a while. I just, it's weird how stuff like this works. I like comedy. I like paying HBO Max too much money to not be able to log into my account. I wrote this on Twitter the other day. i get an email every two days from hbo max telling me about their weekend selections for me um to a new uh you know new shows and movies that have arrived they are very high touch when it comes to letting me know that there's stuff i should be watching and then when i try to log into hbo max they're like who is this like it is the biggest hassle of a process but anyway i jumped through those hoop last night and watch this whitmer thomas thing called the golden one it's really good i want to talk about it also speaking of gold or at least i guess our current version of cyber gold crypto.com the matt damon one that's what everybody's calling it in this news story which i think is kind of hilarious because matt damon he doesn't own the company he did do their ads and i guess he's got to own that they accidentally sent someone 10 million too many or crypto bucks or whatever it was, and now they're trying to get it back, but the person already spent it. So you got my money? And I just feel deeply unsympathetic for crypto.com. Also, I am ready to announce something today. I am embarking on a little bit of personal improvement.

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Let's take on projects that we know we can't do and do them!

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At 46 years old, I'm actually going to try to get my health in line, get my exercise on. I'm going to try to once again believe that I can accomplish things in life. I'm taking some steps to do that. We're going to talk about that coming up too, plus emails and V-mails. And this guy, the longest-running Cobra of the show, may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He has a competitive fire in him that just absolutely cannot, cannot be quenched.

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It doesn't matter if you have one ass cheek and three toes. I will beat your ass.

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He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke. I have a little piece of tape I'd like to play for you.

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I might be overreacting to it, and I need somebody to sort of gut check me on this. But a little setup here. And I promise the listeners, I don't promise you, Luke, because I don't think this bothers you. I could be wrong. But I promise the listeners I'm not going to go on the same rant I go on every time this topic comes up I just want to play a piece of tape for you But it comes from the Mandatory cyber security training That I had to take yesterday Because today was the deadline To get it done It's actually end of day today But I did it last night Because end of day in St. Paul Is earlier than it is here It's your lucky day

00:05:00 - 00:05:46 | Speaker 1:

oh shoot that was the tape i wanted to play nope that uh that exact drop though luke is still in the rotation rotation it is still i mean they say that they're updating this um you know this training program and that's why we have to take the same damn thing every year but they're just updating it like the tiniest bit and i think now i will be honest with you you know again i'm not gonna go on my usual rant but i did my usual thing which was i paid as little attention to the lessons as possible i had a mariners game on for part of it and i had the volume turned down i i have a whole system now you know if you click off of the tab of the training it shuts the whole thing down but i have a multi-window situation here and i realize if you keep the windows

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something huh you finally passed that was the test the test was to figure out how See, the whole cybersecurity, the overlay of that, that's just a pretext for you learning how to truly be efficient by hacking around the system and watching the Mariners and having it do the least impact, this cybersecurity training, on your day. That, my friend, is the test, and you've passed.

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You know what makes so much more sense now, Luke? Late last night, I was visited by an alien who looks just like the music man. and he says he wants to take me up in a spaceship and help defend his planet. Actually, I don't... Am I right about The Last Starfighter? All I know is the music man. Does the guy look like the music man? So you saw The Last Starfighter, right? So long ago. I believe the main character, the guy who comes down to recruit the kid because the kid is really good at playing a video game outside the 7-Eleven or whatever, that is the same actor who plays the music man.

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Oh, no, Robert Preston.

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Robert Preston.

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I wouldn't know his name. Wow, Andrew. Look at you, Andrew Mankiewicz. I mean, have you... What are you? Are you going to be hosting Turner Classic Movies next? That's a great pull.

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Am I right? Did you double check me? Did you double check me? Okay, good. So there you go. I just remember that because as a kid, both of those things were in my interest. And so, yeah, when I say an alien who looked like the music man came down, it was a... Extremely good pull. It was a Last Starfighter joke. But any whoozles. So I did figure out a way that I could open up. I open up a system tray where I can turn down the volume of one browser but keep the volume of another. So I basically paid no attention to the lessons. I zipped through as fast as I could to get to the quizzes, and then I answered the quizzes without reading the questions. You can tell what the answer is just by reading the multiple-choice answer. It's like, you know, the usual thing. The answers – don't even worry about what the question is. the answers will be like yes it's fine go to the picnic nobody's going to take your computer out of the coffee shop or yes yeah you should definitely give that stranger your password because the stranger looks nice or no you should probably lock your laptop in the trunk before you

00:08:03 - 00:08:21 | Speaker 2:

go to the baseball game it's more like the right answer will be proper procedure dictates that all company equipment will be carefully and safely stored while using a vpn network or other secure procedures like those are you guys there's three possible options and one of them is like pawn it

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for crack money the other one says yeah your brother-in-law's made some mistakes in the past but i think you can trust him with your password guy's got a heart of gold oh my god oh here's another irony by the way so i had to do this last night because i mean these last minute notices in my email i'm like god i don't even know if i remember the original email that came through so i'm like digging through my old work email and i see that you've here's your invite to take part in these mandatory lessons and i click it and the first thing i'm learning is about workplace harassment and i'm like oh shit i didn't even know that this invite came in I apparently have a workplace harassment deadline hanging over my head, too, that I started yesterday. How far was I into it before I realized this isn't cybersecurity training? Anyway.

00:09:11 - 00:09:22 | Speaker 2:

I did the exact thing last time around. Did you? I'm not kidding you at all. It's ridiculous. Sorry, I'm off mic because I'm trying to battle a feline intruder that wants to take this entire broadcast off the air.

00:09:22 - 00:09:29 | Speaker 1:

I got the exact same thing going on on my end. I've got a laser pointer here. I'm trying to keep our visiting cat pretzel busy. I like the idea of you.

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like the laser pointer is this right in the middle of pretzel's forehead we're like right on are their chest is pretzel a boy or a girl pretzel's a girl right like you know in the movies how like the all you see is like the red laser sight actually i sent you a freeze did you

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happen to look at your phone in the past 10 minutes i sent you a photo of um yes of the of her chasing the red laser on the wall anyway okay so here's what i'm getting at so i for the most part did not listen to these lessons.

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But every now and then, for some reason, the audio would come through or something. And I happened to catch this one part. And I do think this is new. To their credit, this is one of the few things in this expensive training we all must take. I assume it's expensive. That actually is new. But I find it, maybe it's not new. Maybe you've heard this before. Tell me if you had. i find this scenario so comically misunderstanding of how people use technology and maybe i'm wrong maybe i'm over overblowing this but these are people who are saying hey listen we know a lot about technology you don't we're going to tell you how to keep your shit safe right because for the good of the company and then this here is a scenario this has the vibe of you remember the other day i was telling you about a commercial from the 80s where a guy is sitting behind his computer and he gets done um with a hard day's a hard day's worth of work and he says time to kick back and relax with some gum like as if gum is something that we do when it's time to relax at the end of the day this is kind of i think in the same vein it's been a long week your team has been working

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tirelessly to meet a seemingly impossible project deadline you decide a new ringtone on your cell phone is just the thing to help you stay motivated okay i'm gonna let it go but that's the main part

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i'm gonna keep i'm gonna keep playing it here one notification at a time the app has thousands of

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positive reviews so you decide to download it in just a few taps you're searching for the best motivational movie theme song things are finally looking up you just know it but what you don't know is that your device may have just become part of a botnet okay so you and your team have

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been working you burning you know late hours burning the candle at both ends and now what you need is some motivation so you're gonna download a movie theme ringtone so on the off chance that somebody calls you in the year of our lord 2022 when people are more afraid of calling someone then of a ghost in their garage i don't know is that a big fear ghost in the garage um for me it is you're gonna because i'm remodeling a garage right now to live in it that thing's haunted i'm screwed um but it keeps the property value down then you don't have to pay as many taxes you better hope that thing is actually that a win uh haunted but anyway yeah like how did these folks who wrote this think that like what do teams do what is this scenario where we can get somebody downloading a ringtone app in 2022 well it's probably for motivation during a big project with your team i'm going to download a movie theme so that when somebody calls me i hear a movie theme and i'm ready to do my project again because what they wanted to do

00:12:54 - 00:14:39 | Speaker 3:

and again full disclosure i am the kind of i guess you would say the face of the this exact kind of training at microsoft and so i do actually spend a fair amount of time every year uh you know i don't do any of the writing or anything but i read a lot of stuff about it like in terms of script and things uh and i my guess is what the people that we work for like the company they hired that the you know whatever materials they they rented want to make sure that we employees don't download apps on our company phone without really making sure that that's in fact my guess would be if you had an apm phone i don't you nor you nor i have apm phones right if you had one can you imagine how locked down that shit is oh yeah i mean first off i'm sure you could probably can't even text on it unless you call the icc but it's like they wanted they they it seems to me that the message they want to transmit is if you're using a company phone be very careful about the kind of apps you download because that could be a security breach okay that's reasonable but you don't have to write an elaborate backstory that involves productivity and how you're motivating your team through this motivational by the way they probably want to say rocky but they don't have the rights to it oh sure yeah movie theme ringtone yeah eye of the tiger something like that and so it's it just seems to me like it's it's yeah first of all you're totally right who's downloading a ringtone like think of a better app be like this like you have a long commute to work on the subway and it's pretty boring so you think it'd be fun to have a game to play on my phone you go to the app store and you download a game like just get real with what people are downloading onto their phones at this point and again these are the people who are

00:14:39 - 00:15:11 | Speaker 2:

teaching us about technology so okay i don't you're in a loveless marriage you wouldn't ever do it but you're curious what else is out there You go to a site called AshleyMadison.net. Right. It has great reviews. They say they will never be hacked. is actually madison still a thing i'm asking you this is a trap this is a trap just that guy asked me to ask you if ashley madison is still a thing um but they had that huge breach right it's the

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perfect example of like you know i mean no offense but boy i mean look i don't want to moralize but i mean there is a certain delicious irony in this website that exists so people can uh cheat on their spouses and and then the idea that that information would become public was i i had much like crypto.com accidentally emailing 10 million dollars to some lady in australia i can't say i felt hugely bad for the people trying to use ashley madison to cheat i'm

00:15:39 - 00:15:50 | Speaker 2:

looking forward to talking about that uh bitcoin story by the way i wanted to give you props in your intro you what did you call it cyber gold and i'm wondering if like i'd be more into cryptocurrency if it was called cyber gold i think that's a better name because there's already so

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much you know they talk about mining it yeah yeah i mean the terminology is already there you i mean i'm sure there's 8 000 different um coins that have gold as part of sure yeah you know whatever but um can we agree though i know we're not actually trying to do the crypto story now but uh there's something called an is it an eth like eth is a it's a it's i think a pretty popular i'm apologies to our listeners who actually know a lot about crypto uh for just how out of it i am with it but there's something i think it's called an eith but that just sounds like the weirdest i don't know why that just sounds like a weird h something like that and it's a crypto term yeah it's a i believe it's a currency or maybe it's crypto overall the currency is like bitcoin a currency or is crypto a currency and bitcoin is a coin within the currency of crypto i don't know but there's something called an an eith and whenever i hear someone talking about like oh yeah I picked that up. It was like half an ETH. I think that's real. I think that's Ethereum.

00:16:54 - 00:17:18 | Speaker 2:

I think that's cool talk. But they shorten it to ETH. I think so. Because I type in crypto ETH. And I am not pretending to know anything about this world. I have negative knowledge about cryptocurrency. The more you tell me about it, the less I know. So I'm not trying to sound like I know what I'm talking about. But if you type in crypto ETH, the first thing that pops up is Ethereum. Because Ethereum is like huge. You hear that. Yeah. And I know that's a huge part of the culture.

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So there's just something about when something's like, oh, man, I got a deal and I got it for half an ETH. Yeah. Like, are we on are you Navi right now?

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I used to get a half an ETH when I was in college. There's a guy on my floor. I would do his homework for it.

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It was all stems, right?

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It certainly was the brown frown, my friend.

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Anyway, I agree with you, Andrew, that I'm I'm glad they're adding things. Yeah. I mean, honestly, for keeping it fun and flirty, but that just doesn't doesn't feel like that was created by people who are on the absolute tip of the spear when it comes to cyber behavior.

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Yeah. They did not have a moment at the end. A couple of years ago when you got done doing the cybersecurity training, there was a moment for you to give some feedback. I remember writing, it's an insult to the time and intelligence of your employees to make them take the same thing every year, at least start with the quizzes. And if we don't pass, then you can make us take the training. And I've noticed since I wrote that they haven't offered feedback options at the end. Do you think you broke? No, I don't. I'm sure it was just a thing. But in my head, I like to fantasize that somebody really read that and it really stung.

00:18:28 - 00:18:38 | Speaker 1:

Well, you've been to, I mean, now we are just sort of having this conversation, but it was, I don't know, maybe last year about this time or the year before when I actually went to the website for the company that creates the cyber training.

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Oh, right. Yeah, right.

00:18:40 - 00:19:28 | Speaker 1:

And it is, the About Us page is shocking. It is like 11 dudes that look like Waldorf and Stadler from The Muppets. I'm just, you know, just old guys. I don't want to say old, because actually I want to talk about this coming up. I'm really reassessing being 46 lately, Andrew, in a hopefully positive way. You're going to be something else. Yeah, I've decided to start telling people I'm 36. I've reassessed it right to the point of deciding I'm not going to lie about it. No, but yeah, if you look at the board of directors for this tech company, I mean, I don't know if you're technically a tech company or a training company. But if you look at their, like, About Us page, everything in there that seems out of touch totally makes sense.

00:19:28 - 00:19:46 | Speaker 2:

Well, that makes sense. I didn't grab this, but that makes sense because there is another section of this where it's something like, You're at the theater, but you're not enjoying the programming. You download an app full of insults that you can hurl at the frog and the pig who are presenting on stage. It has good reviews. It seems like something you can trust.

00:19:46 - 00:20:09 | Speaker 1:

let's um oh i want to before we go to the break i want to quickly uh it's not even correct the record but i want to clarify something because i meant to talk about this on the show yesterday and then i forgot to and now Now I'm even more troubled by the possibility that yesterday when we started the show and I played this audio drop.

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This is how legends are made.

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And that's not Fall Out Boy, right? We were doing a different, we were talking about a Fall Out Boy song before. That's Fall Out Boy. That is Fall Out Boy. Legends. Okay, gotcha.

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Oh, no, no, no. That's not Fall Out Boy. Okay.

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Hold on.

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The Fall Out Boy song was, I will be. Centuries. Yeah, centuries, exactly. you'll remember me for centuries.

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And, um, hold on.

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That was, see, I still have, I still have the guy's bio. That's old man Google right there. That's how old man Google things. They dig through the trash for their old printout.

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I literally am digging through the trash, Andrew. But, you know what? Still faster than me trying to Google it. Sam Tenez, maybe? God dang it. Maybe I should have just Googled it. Did I say the name right? Uh, I mean, I was guessing at it, too. That's what it looks, yeah. Tynes, Tinez That's what that is, that's not Fall Out Boy Or Imagine Dragons But all kind of in the same vein My concern was, like this is now, to me This is a funny joke within the world of our show Because we spent a bunch of time Before the summer games Talking about You know, hype songs And Including this song, This Is How Legends Are Made And so me playing it as a drop After I say, welcome to TVTL

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This is how legends are made

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Is absolutely a joke But I had this fear That somebody was listening for the first time yesterday And the first audio drop they hear from me Is This is how legends are made And they got the complete wrong idea about what And maybe they listened for three more minutes And then just like turned it off Like if I were listening to a podcast And I didn't understand that they were in on the joke And they played that audio drop It would really color my opinion of the show

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You would say these are probably not my kind of folks

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No, this is not the show for me And so I had meant to play that Because it does make me laugh And I thought you found it entertaining But then I wanted to like almost immediately When we started talking Just clarify that that's a joke Because I don't have the confidence To make like a really droll joke And then leave it alone As evidenced by what I'm saying right now So then I meant to say something And then we got off on other things And then I never said anything And then, like, as I was drifting off to sleep last night, I was like, I never qualified. So if that person who tuned in yesterday for the first time ever, if you made it through yesterday's show and if you made it to today's show and you made it to 22 minutes or so into the program, that was a joke.

00:22:43 - 00:23:38 | Speaker 2:

OK, listen, here's what I want to talk about here related to this. I what I'm about to say is not a judgment on the song at all. obviously this is the type this music isn't for us but also if you're out there and you like it good on you i don't you know i don't care i like i like all kinds of music that is just objectively terrible so you know like whatever i'm not saying that i'm better than you because i don't like this music but looking at the lyrics to the song on um the website genius you know and it's the thing that's kind of crowdsourced the lyrics are there but then i always find it interesting used to be called rap genius and exactly yeah they wanted to try to broaden out exactly and so you What I like about it, of course, the killer app here, is you can click on some of the lyrics and somebody will have – hold on one second. I know that you like to keep sneezes in the broadcast, but I gave you a little bit of realness. As I said, give me a minute. I appreciate that. I heard that.

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By the way, if you get a fax, Bubbles is trying to fax Pretzel right now. Just standing on my printer slash fax machine, punching in random numbers.

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Pretzel is doing something kind of similar.

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If you get a text in a few minutes.

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What if they're faxing each other? Cat fax. Anyway, of course, the cool thing about Genius is you can click on some of these lyrics and it'll kind of explain the background of it. And I do like that, again, especially maybe sometimes like with you mentioned that it was originally Rap Genius. And that was really helpful because there's so many references to either old school songs or a beef that's going on or a relationship with another rapper or whatever. Right. but when you go to this song Legends Are Made is the full name of the song there's not really much to click on it's all pretty straightforward there's a reference to some Greek mythology that is sort of explained when you click on it but then I mean and again this is just like the weirdness and like the total it seems like randomness of I guess group editing is all these lyrics are pretty straightforward but for some reason the line show you the harder the battle the harder I fight that is highlighted and needs explanation. The explanation being rather than give up in the face of a difficult challenge to Nez shows a drive to win no.

00:25:00 - 00:25:11 | Speaker 1:

matter what ramping up his efforts in response to a harder task like did that need to be explained of all of the lyrics show you the harder the battle the harder cyber security also running

00:25:11 - 00:25:49 | Speaker 2:

are they just like on their free time are they going in like a wikipedia editor and clarifying things like that on on uh oh by the way not to change the subject no no please do i don't want to go on on this anymore i just noticed the other day i don't i don't really go to my wikipedia page very frequently um but i was there for some reason the other day and i noticed that somebody added my first ex-wife to your wikipedia page to my wikipedia page so now it lists both people i've been married to in my in my life uh which is totally fine but i was like was that her no i

00:25:49 - 00:25:53 | Speaker 1:

mean i i've never met it's nicola right i've never met her but then it meant for somebody else it was

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just very interesting because i was like there's a completist out there who just really which again it's i mean it's there's zero downside to this for me i mean i talk very open and honestly about the fact that i've been married twice it's not a secret but it's just i don't i it's interesting that that was something that was added since whenever the last time i looked at that page

00:26:15 - 00:26:40 | Speaker 1:

yeah i'm trying to figure this out i am not very well wow your um wikipedia page is pretty Filled out these days Congratulations on that And let's see here Remember back in the day Because there is a too beautiful to live Wikipedia page and you of course Are linkable And somebody tried to build a page for me But Wikipedia took it down They're like this guy is a nobody Do you remember that?

00:26:40 - 00:26:43 | Speaker 2:

I don't think that they used that word No they literally did

00:26:43 - 00:26:44 | Speaker 1:

I have the documentation

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I really found that shocking Because I thought the whole idea of Wikipedia Was that you know People could create a page For just about anything And that was kind of the beauty of it I didn't think that there was some vetting process For like the blue check mark of Wikipedia The irony is I would trade my Wikipedia Page for a blue check mark

00:27:06 - 00:27:19 | Speaker 1:

It's funny but yeah this goes into your Lighthouse Ranch Kirby Wilber This has everything I'm looking for the part But if I knew Wikipedia better I could go in And look at who made these edits

00:27:19 - 00:27:59 | Speaker 2:

but i'm just so bad at this i know like i was so i i must have been on a plane and very bored and probably three wines in but i decided to click on i can't even get to it now but i clicked somewhere on because you know everything that's edited there's a trail right like there's a there's a chain of conversations and it was really funny i can't remember the specific one but i didn't find out anything more on the question of like uh who added my first ex-wife or whatever i mean I'm into it for the sake of accuracy. That's totally fine. But I clicked on edits, and it gives you a list of every conversation that's gone on around. Let's see.

00:28:00 - 00:28:13 | Speaker 1:

I'm not seeing married or wife in your... Spouses. Oh, okay. Oh, I see. Oh, just in the sidebar, so it's not in the thing. Okay, gotcha. It's just kind of the quick info on the side.

00:28:13 - 00:28:58 | Speaker 2:

And I can't get back to it now, but somebody had... had it was pretty funny because there was people that were arguing not arguing like in a heated way but there was and i don't think these i don't even think the person like there was something that probably some tbtl listener wrote in there that i think it was something like he invented the idea of shocky cheese or something something silly that was going on on tbtl and then someone else who clearly is not like a tbtl listener but just somebody who is uh an editor uh you know on wikipedia who just spends a really healthy amount of time going through wikipedia post you know pages and kind of like fact checking them or or do you know what disambiguation means i see that a lot i don't really know what that actually i guess it's clarifying if you're going to make something

00:28:58 - 00:29:19 | Speaker 1:

less ambiguous now it means if you go to a page uh if you're looking for something i'm trying to think of an example off the top of my head and of course i'm not but if a word has more than one meaning or if it's a title of something but it's a book it's a movie it's a tv show as well the disambiguation when you go to it at the top it'll say do you mean the book do you mean the

00:29:19 - 00:30:00 | Speaker 2:

movie do you mean the guy i'm pretty sure i think you're right no i'm looking at on the internet i think you described it exactly right i never knew what that word meant but i would see it flying around on the internet point being it was funny because some 10 probably put in some little thing that made them happy some joke from the show and then somebody else came in who i think probably wasn't a listener and was like well actually yeah like this uh i'm submitting this for removal based on sub code c2d of the you know it was just like wow i can't believe that this is uh this conversation is happening but anyway uh i guess i just thought that was kind of it was intriguing to me that somebody had gone in and and really was clarified

00:30:00 - 00:30:05 | Speaker 1:

more of the the beats of my life as it were like the timelines are in there of when i was married

00:30:05 - 00:30:51 | Speaker 2:

i couldn't even tell you that stuff although i can't find this in the in the revision thing the revisions are so difficult for me to read i see disambiguation like from k instead of linking just to kpcc they link to kpcc radio station which is a more specific way of like kind of so that was that disambiguation you were talking about boy that hard word is hard for me to say when i'm talking this fast but i'm i can't find when do you have any idea how often you go there do you have any idea when this might mean every probably once every six months or something okay yeah because i do see there's a lot of activity a lot of people editing your page does that give you a weird feeling it gives me a weird feeling like people have been like thinking hard about your wikipedia page and in february march april may july people are coming to this page and making

00:30:51 - 00:31:49 | Speaker 1:

edits because it's important i trust the hashtag process i'm like joelle and bead i trust the process i feel like the good news is the main people that would have any interest in editing or changing a wikipedia page about me are probably tens yeah that's a good feeling they're good awesome people who uh have my back and if somebody put something up that wasn't true they would probably uh get it taken down and i don't see any of the tens wanting to uh do anything but just try to fully describe as if this show hasn't done enough of that fully describe my life moment by moment yeah i find it i find it actually quite flattering and an honor that anyone would take the time to in any way sort of set the official record on my little my little life on this planet yeah which i actually want to talk about briefly when we come back from this break your life on this planet yes briefly okay it's like two minutes two minutes then we'll do blurs days We better start the blur stage

00:31:49 - 00:31:50 | Speaker 2:

I know I was going to say

00:31:50 - 00:33:35 | Speaker 1:

I hear there's a real Backlog Supply chains issues Supply chains issues Quick break and then back with more TBTL after this Alright let's thank some Daily donors who are keeping tbtl in business with their donations and we are so so thankful for folks like katie isaac in seattle washington thanks katie uh todd thorsgaard is in st paul minnesota i don't want to regionalize but thorsgaard is a solid yeah st paul minnesota last name yes it is i feel like he todd probably pals around with our friend eric stromstad i feel like they should yeah Yeah, they should probably go to the Eagles over on Phelan. Yes. Very much. Maria Thompson is in Alexandria, Minnesota. A lot of Minnesotas. What's going on here? Really, what's going on? Like, we're locked into an upper Midwest situation here. Yeah, and I'm loving it. Exactly. I don't need it to end because I love that part of the world. We've got to get back there. I've been seeing so many stories about the Minnesota State Fair. There's been this friendly, you would say, rivalry between the Minnesota lawmakers and the Iowa lawmakers because, of course, those are two huge state fairs that kind of vie for saying we're the number one state fair in the country. And Amy Klobuchar just putting down her salad comb for a minute and just bringing the heat, the absolute heat.

00:33:35 - 00:33:50 | Speaker 2:

Wait, this is an update? Because, you know, like our friend Brandy Brown was a huge architect of getting, what was Klobuchar's nickname? What did I used to call her? I can't remember. But Kloby? No. To getting her on the record to not be wishy-washy about which state fairs.

00:33:50 - 00:34:15 | Speaker 1:

That was when she was running for president. Yeah. But now she's not running for president. And so what is she saying? She has no need. She's just, you know, doing, again, it's all very good-natured and tongue-in-cheek. But it's, actually, you know what it was? It was her talking to Buttigieg. So this was actually about the Indiana State Fair Because that's where Buttigieg is from And, you know, she was I can't wait for the transportation secretary To visit Minnesota and see A real state fair or something

00:34:15 - 00:34:21 | Speaker 2:

Oh, suddenly she's got tons of pride In her own state fair Now that she's not trying to suck up to Iowa

00:34:21 - 00:34:23 | Speaker 1:

Exactly, well, or Indiana

00:34:23 - 00:34:26 | Speaker 2:

Or, right, or Indiana, I guess

00:34:26 - 00:34:52 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I guess in this case That's true, because she could run again But you're right, but in the previous case It was totally an Iowa thing It was like, yeah, she couldn't. She was, you know, Iowa is such an important state when you're running for president that you can't do anything that would alienate them, including saying that you have better, you know, fried. What's the most unlikely thing that they could fry? I was going to say fried Subaru, which is like fried all the time.

00:34:52 - 00:34:53 | Speaker 2:

God, I'm bad at this.

00:34:54 - 00:34:57 | Speaker 1:

Hey, can I just tell you one? Well, I said fried Subaru because I'm looking at a Subaru.

00:34:57 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 2:

You said fried soup would actually be good.

00:35:00 - 00:36:14 | Speaker 1:

here um that i'd get it um i want to tell you a quick little story related to this it's don't move on it'll take me two seconds um but uh i have like 11 more people from minnesota to think also i kind of have a weird typo in the next names we should read so i'll give you a second to sort of sort that out ahead of time while i tell you this i was on the company slack uh today actually mostly yesterday trying to trying to figure out some technical issue me and another producer at American Public Media were having with a system. And I don't know who this producer is. I'd never met her before, but she and I were interacting a little bit saying, hey, I'm still having this issue as well. And then today I went to check in and I saw that I don't know if you know this, Luke, but on Slack, you can have a little icon next to your name. That means like if it's a calendar, it probably means you're in a meeting. If it's a big red X, it means that you're probably out for the day. Don't bug me, whatever. And she had a little ear of corn next to her name and i was like why do you have an ear of corn next to your name it's con and then i hover over it and says at the fair and luke i had such a just for a split second i had such a sense of jealousy and longing to be at the minnesota state fair absolutely i mean i don't

00:36:14 - 00:36:27 | Speaker 2:

think this year is going to work out because i think it's over in five days and we're here but next year uh lord willing and the creeks don't rise uh with with climate change that's always A possibility but like we should try to we got to try

00:36:27 - 00:36:31 | Speaker 1:

To get back I know we say that every year I really want to well

00:36:31 - 00:36:39 | Speaker 2:

How else are we going to see Steve Olwell And Lynn Coppell In St. Paul Minnesota Now what was the typo that you wanted to

00:36:39 - 00:36:59 | Speaker 1:

Well usually we're Reading off of a spreadsheet here and so It's sort of on our spreadsheet says Steve and Lynn and Olwell And Coppell usually if I was prepping This for copy I would have kind of Put the first and last names together So you wouldn't have to do it on the fly Well, I was able to figure it out. Just on the fly sort it out. Wow, you're such a professional.

00:36:59 - 00:37:19 | Speaker 2:

Thank you for your attention to detail. And then we've also got Alexia and Jeff Janicek of Grand Rapids, Minnesota again. Ooh, twist. And then keeping things squarely in that part of the world, Stacey Bryant is in beautiful Madison, Wisconsin.

00:37:20 - 00:37:32 | Speaker 1:

We don't think there's a typo there. Is there a Grand Rapids, Minnesota? Yes, there is. I just wanted to make sure because it's MN versus MI, you know, but anyway, I've only insulted our friends in Grand Rapids. Sorry about that.

00:37:32 - 00:37:51 | Speaker 2:

There's, I believe, I think every state, there's probably Grand Rapids, Washington. I wonder if Washington, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, and Minnesota and Michigan all have Grand Rapids. I would say probably.

00:37:51 - 00:38:02 | Speaker 1:

Huh. I mean, it does describe a physical trait of the landscape, right? Like rapids. Right, and you want to point out that the rapids that are near where you are are better than the other rapids.

00:38:02 - 00:40:00 | Speaker 2:

Sure. Yeah, exactly. So I bet you that that's semi-common. But anyway, thank you so much to all of our donors of the day, and thanks for keeping TBTL going. We really do appreciate you. Hello, and welcome to Top Story. Right. So I've been alluding to this all show. And then when I actually get into it, there's really not that much to report. I just had the realization the other day, Andrew, that I think I can actually still set goals for myself and see if I can achieve them. I know that sounds like, well, duh, of course you can. But I really think that since probably since my second divorce, which you can read about on Wikipedia and moving to Portland and just kind of, I don't know, licking my wounds a little bit, settling into a different version of my life, not having kind of the home base that the Burbank Springs Broadcast Center kind of was for me, I guess, like literally, but also just kind of like a emotionally and psychologically like not having Rudy around anymore I think I've just been in kind of a bit of a a different phase in my life and somehow the way that that's shaken out for me is to like just I wouldn't say give up but just kind of like I used to be a person who was very motivated by thinking about hey wouldn't it be great if I trained for a marathon and if on the way there i also you know lost a little bit of weight or if i you know gave up booze for lent or at one time the rest of my life which lasted one year uh i just used to kind of like a lot of my life was spent aspiring to things and i think i hit this weird patch in the last couple of years where i kind of just thought well this is pretty much top of the mountain for me like i'm probably not getting any new jobs from here i'm probably not getting any any more fit uh i'm probably not getting, you know, like I was, and I think I was kind of battling this feeling that like my life had really platinum.

00:40:00 - 00:41:15 | Speaker 1:

toad and i don't know what happened the other day but i just oh you know what it was i was looking for a picture of something and i was scrolling back way way way way back in my photos like years back i was trying to find like a specific picture of something and i was just seeing all of these like even just three year ago versions of myself and and because i like uh in my various endeavors into you know maybe getting a little more fit or whatever i would sort of have some like before and after pictures or like i just saw some photos of myself sometimes post run or whatever from uh from some years ago and and not even just that but like i was looking i was looking for a picture of me and my nephew little luke this one picture we're both wearing the same jacket from years ago and i found it but on the way there i just saw all these old pictures of myself of me and all these different moments of my life say three four years ago and i really i what i saw in that person was like somebody who was like actually aspiring still to things not just kind of going all right well this is it now let's just hope this part lasts as long as possible before the decline and i was like i'm 46 which is not 36 but it's also not 96 yeah remember our conversation with

00:41:15 - 00:41:31 | Speaker 2:

kirk honda like i mean honestly i think i'm not joking i think the highest level of happiness yeah and i mean i guess you know that's just a number that you know represents something but i do think about that a lot that i i've spent most of my life feeling older than i am i think

00:41:31 - 00:42:37 | Speaker 1:

i've been a little bit worried first of all it is a lot it's it's very different and we're talking about just the physical side of it like for me like i'd like to lose some weight and this isn't a this isn't a commentary on how anybody should feel about their body uh at all i mean we used to start the show by giving our weights that was at the time it didn't seem like a bad move but now Of course, we probably wouldn't do that. I can't imagine that made that was super inclusive for folks. But I would like to lose a little bit of weight just because I think I feel a little better. I move a little better when I'm when I'm, you know, a few pounds less than I am now. I've sort of stayed with my jogging routine, but not in a like I'm setting goals and trying to achieve them kind of way. I've just been I've been basically on like autopilot for a couple of years when it comes to like everything. Just when it comes to like, I don't know, again, setting some professional goals and seeing like, hey, could I maybe, I don't know, have more stories on Sunday morning or have different kinds of stories or get more listeners to TBTL is something that you probably been thinking about a lot.

00:42:37 - 00:42:41 | Speaker 2:

But I mean it, Andrew, like, I mean, I want us to sponsor a Little League team.

00:42:42 - 00:42:44 | Speaker 1:

Oh, that's right. That would be hilarious.

00:42:44 - 00:43:00 | Speaker 2:

I did get a text from you asking me that a while back, but it was also accompanied with a picture of Andre the Giant in a frame next to a glass of whiskey. And I kind of thought that that might be the either the Andre the Giant talking or the whiskey talking. Anybody want a Little League team?

00:43:01 - 00:45:58 | Speaker 1:

But I know. But I really think that would be hilarious if we had some TBTL junior achievers. Yeah. You know, who are, so like, that's a fun, that could be a fun promotional thing that we could do where we, you know, we, we sponsor a team. I don't know, just, I think, I think I'm coming out of, I'm, I'm emerging from a little bit of a phase where I just kind of wanted to do, I don't want to say the bare minimum, but where I wasn't feeling ambitious about taking on new things or trying to set goals for myself, probably out of a fear that I wouldn't achieve them. like you know it's at 46 it's like it's not as easy to uh uh maybe lose some weight your body's changing my tea is plummeting you know there's like a lot and that's also probably part of it by the way i'm sure that like testosterone is a big part of like and having more of it when i was in my 20s was probably uh something that made me more ambitious or more like i could do anything in the future i could and i can put a plan in place and then i can follow it and then this is going to happen i think i kind of hit this moment where that stuff i just i just didn't uh i didn't have much aspiration other than just keeping everything going as it was making sure i didn't lose my jobs making sure that we were still doing good shows and etc etc but i don't know just in the last week or so maybe it was a little bit of time off maybe it was working on this project with my dad but i just have kind of been like hey uh let's get back in touch with that old version of you that is me uh who actually like used to really take because the other thing was i got a lot of joy out of that i got a lot of joy out of like setting a goal for something and then actually achieving it that's like you know obviously that's very satisfying to do and so uh so yeah so like i i went i decided i haven't weighed myself in a long time mostly because i just didn't really i was together i'm not going to define myself by my weight which i'm still not but i was like if I'm going to try to maybe make some progress and lose a little bit of weight, I have to know what the starting point is and you know you haven't weighed yourself for a long time when the batteries and the scale are dead figures that you couldn't find the scale no the scale's been sitting there in my bathroom uh but it was totally dead and it takes like triple a batteries part of why i was so late dialing you today was because i had to harvest all the triple a batteries in the apartment which was the uh which was the uh remote control for the actually the remote control the tv is double a it was the like i don't you call it roku remote control it was one of my clocks i'm surrounded by that i take on the road and then one of the batteries that was dead in there but i guess when you combine it with three less dead batteries it still works i was like scavenging in my house trying to find triple a battery so i could get the scale working i did i got on there i won't give the number because uh you know that that's not even the important part but the point is that i kind of actually just got up this morning and i thought let's do this let's

00:45:58 - 00:48:55 | Speaker 1:

actually take a assessment of a few different things in my life let's actually think about hey what would the um what would a cool version of that look like down the road a better version i should say and then let's do them you know what else i think kind of got me thinking this way this whitmer thomas thing i watched last night so this is a comedy special on hbo max called the golden one have you heard of that comedy troupe called power violence no they're an la thing i'm not sure if they're still working together but they are um they just do these like kind of i would say somewhat outsider comedy shows and they make videos and stuff they're just like a kind of group of folks who were all into comedy and collaborating uh our my friend scott moran who did those modern comedian documentaries a long time ago that are really good he did one about this this group called power violence but anyway one of the folks in that is this guy named whitmer thomas and i don't know i must have seen a mention of it on tiktok or something but i he was i saw like a clip of this the golden one and basically this guy whitmer thomas he grew up in alabama and there's a place called the called the floribama club that clearly it's near the border of florida in alabama and his mom and her twin sister were musicians and they they had a sister act that was called now remember their twin sisters their sister act was called sin twister and they almost made it like they almost got a record deal and they never quite did and they used to play this club the floribama club or floribama room or whatever it's called they used to play this club all the time they were kind of the house band and unfortunately his mother battled um alcoholism and ended up dying at a young age when he was also very young this guy whitmer thomas and so he then lives in la and he's got this kind of stand-up slash music thing going and the this special this comedy special follows him first of all just like in la kind of going through some stuff you know old recordings of her and stuff like that and then it follows him and his buddy who's also in this power violence group driving all the way out to Alabama and then him doing this show in front of all of his friends and family and people who've come down, his dad who he's had been estranged from because his dad bailed on him and he's doing comedy about his dad bailing on him. His dad is in the audience. It's like very intense. It is so good. And he acknowledges it that his dad's in the audience while he's doing the bit? He doesn't, but you see once they've established his dad, then there's a clip. you can they cut to a clip later of his dad you know in this performance you see that his dad's actually been there watching and you're not really clear on that i don't want to give away too much of it but all all i can say is this is a it's really different than any comedy special i've seen it's sort of a documentary film about family and loss but then also with really

00:48:55 - 00:49:59 | Speaker 1:

really funny material on stage and he's a songwriter this guy whitmer thomas and he like just writes these really good songs that are very kind of they're funny but good but they're have emotion to them anyway it's it's very hard to describe this i think calling it a comedy special doesn't really do it justice but it is very funny but it's just a great piece of filmmaking i would highly recommend it's called the golden one but he's talking at some point about so his dad had had addiction problems sounds like everybody in his family was dealing with this stuff and this is when his dad disappeared from his life and then his dad got sober his dad basically like made this list of things that he wanted in his life and one was to like be back in his kids life lives because he's got an older brother this guy does and like there was something about his dad him talking about his dad making this list of things and and like trying to get his life back together not that that's where my life is but i don't know there was just something that inspired me like because his dad wasn't young when he made that list his dad was probably older than me you know and he did it that's way hard i'm just talking about like i I would like to lose 15.

00:50:00 - 00:50:26 | Speaker 2:

pounds his dad was trying to get off of heroin and reunite with his children and have a life and get a job you know like his dad was like at a really like kind of rock bottom place and i think it kind of put into perspective the stuff that i want to do i just would like to make some adjustments in my life for the positive and also really again just get back to the idea of believing that i can still actually do things if i set my mind to it because i think i kind of lost that

00:50:26 - 00:50:41 | Speaker 1:

mojo a little bit you know you say all of that and you know well first of all it's your journey so i don't want to say too much on it there's a million places i could take it but i would say that the thing that stands out to me the most is you need a battery daddy um oh my god andrew

00:50:41 - 00:51:04 | Speaker 2:

you know i have a battery daddy with no batteries in it i was going to i'm not trying to be dismissive of what you said no no no no i looked dude i was looking through the like laundry closet because that's where these shelves are and there's the battery daddy mocking me. Is it still in the box? It's like the cobbler's children go without shoes. The battery daddy. The best part of the battery

00:51:04 - 00:51:08 | Speaker 1:

daddy is filling it up with batteries and like now because you. What? Am I going to take out

00:51:08 - 00:51:11 | Speaker 2:

a second mortgage? Am I going to get a He-Lock? What you're going to do is. That's not cheap.

00:51:11 - 00:52:22 | Speaker 1:

You're going to bring your battery daddy to me and we're going to go to Costco together and we're going to buy. Oh shit. Oh sorry. This big cat just jumped on me. I'm wearing shorts and I did not see her uh jump crawling up my legs hello pretzel um but um yeah that is one thing like once you have a battery daddy you got to keep that thing full and it's a really good feeling to fill it up i once looked up how heavy is a battery daddy when it's full of batteries do you want to take an uh a guess on that oh wow uh four pounds oh no i mean that thing holds d batteries as well my friend uh i'm looking it up by the way i while i look this up i want to do the whole d's batteries can that be a show title uh let's see how many uh i had an answer to this at one point so you're saying way heavier than four pounds it weighs 13 pounds when it's fully loaded yeah no it's a weapon man you have to wait i think you're gonna wait five days before you can get one um i want to give i know you do not like it when i use this platform to talk to one individual specifically like i can reach out to them via other means but i will say no i love it our listen as i taught don

00:52:22 - 00:52:29 | Speaker 2:

o'neill to get to the universal you've got to go through the specific exactly um i'd like to send

00:52:29 - 00:53:26 | Speaker 1:

a very specific message to our friend uh and colleague annie who um is in the sales department in american public media and often is sending us ideas of of potential sponsors i want to say I have sold more Battery Daddies by talking about Battery Daddy on the show than I've ever sold Drinkworks machines, Bombas socks. I can't remember what else we've advertised. Funny, those are my two things, and I don't think we've ever done Bombas. But anyway, I'm just saying that we got to get Battery Daddy. Got to get that Battery Daddy account. I'm selling them, and I'm not getting anything for it. Yes, I need to have that account. I mean, we could do a whole thing with it. I could dress up like a battery daddy. I, you know, maybe a, maybe like a battery leather daddy. Like maybe I dress up like a copper top D battery, but I'm also kind of wearing like a leather jumpsuit. I don't know. I'm into all kinds of ideas if we can make it work for TBTL and American public media.

00:53:27 - 00:53:34 | Speaker 2:

The, okay, but see the, the existence of a battery daddy implies the existence of a battery gimp.

00:53:35 - 00:53:38 | Speaker 1:

Oh, does it? That's the real, and that's going to be the part. I thought you were going to say a battery mommy.

00:53:39 - 00:53:43 | Speaker 2:

And that's going to be where things get less family friendly at the next TBTL Live.

00:53:43 - 00:54:35 | Speaker 1:

Uh-huh. Things are very gendered, aren't they? The battery daddy is a male thing, whereas I have some little plastic device that I put in my microwave. You fill it with water and white vinegar, and you put it in the microwave for like seven minutes or some ridiculous amount of time, and it steams up the microwave, and then it makes the microwave very easy to clean. And that's called Angry Mommy. What? And it's always interesting how – and it's like in the shape of a – it's like a little plastic bottle, but it's kind of in the shape of a woman crossing her arms. And I'm like, why is – She's angry because no one has microwaved vinegar yet in the microwave? I guess so. But she's angry because you've made a mess of the microwave and now angry – or maybe angry mama. Did I say mommy? I think it's angry mama. But it is interesting to look at the attributes we ascribe to these various products, right?

00:54:35 - 00:54:51 | Speaker 2:

Right. And that's also just – I wonder – I guess what the thought is for Angry Microwave Mom, whatever it's called, is we have to – I mean, basically what they're – is there anything specific about the shape? Is it shaped like an angry mom?

00:54:51 - 00:55:12 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, but they – I mean, I think it's – it's only shaped like an angry mom because they decided to do it that way. Right. It could be a dish, a vinegar, right? It could be like a little – it could be a bottle of it sort of. It stands up. If you can picture it, it's almost like a vial sort of. But they put little handles on it because it's going to be really hot when you take it out of the microwave. But the handles are the mom's arms akimbo.

00:55:13 - 00:55:14 | Speaker 2:

Oh, well, that's how that happened.

00:55:14 - 00:55:20 | Speaker 1:

But why couldn't it be a dad though? There's no – you know what I mean? I don't think that like –

00:55:20 - 00:55:58 | Speaker 2:

But I'm saying – I'm just – absolutely. But I'm saying the idea of the thing being angry is because somebody noticed that the hands are – it looks like their hands are on their hips. they also make a trump one andrew which what they do if you yeah it's called microwave steam cleaner angry potus angry potus is it and then if you all you gotta do is look at it and you'll know it i'll tell you this it ain't barack obama what the heck why what what would who hurt you that you would buy an angry donald trump-esque steam cleaner for your microwave does it work by the

00:55:58 - 00:56:21 | Speaker 1:

I got one. I got an angry Biden, but it cost a thousand dollars and it doesn't do anything. I don't even think that's true, by the way. I do not believe that Biden has not done anything. Actually, I think that the administration has actually got a lot done. But I was just making a joke. I just didn't want somebody to like write to me like, um, actually, but but yeah, Sleepy Joe has been seeming actually much more forceful.

00:56:21 - 00:56:54 | Speaker 2:

I don't know if it's just now I perceive him differently because I've actually got some legislation moved or not. But like, you know, he was in Pennsylvania giving a speech and he sounded much. It's weird. There's like a range for him. There are the days when he does seem like he could fall asleep at any time during the speech. And then there are days where he just seems very forceful and and kind of, you know, like a present and with it. And he seemed that way the other day, which I'm like, well, good, because, I mean, the dude's going to run again. So we're going to need him to take his vitamins, please.

00:56:54 - 00:57:15 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, I'll say, and this is going back a ways now, but I remember I was really as far as like him being an orator. And, you know, he's obviously been on the radar for so long now. This wasn't our first introduction to Joe Biden. But no, it was when he was being busted for plagiarism during his last presidential run. When I was a kid in the early 90s, that's 80s.

00:57:15 - 00:57:23 | Speaker 2:

80 yeah he was trying to be president in the 80s and his campaign was scuttled because he admitted to plagiarizing something i remember thinking well i guess that guy's done but i remember on

00:57:23 - 00:57:44 | Speaker 1:

january 7th he came out and said all the right things and said them and said them well and said them accurately and uh i remember thinking oh okay yeah there's still some of that there's still some of that spark in there too i mean listen he's an older he's an older guy who uh you know has a speech impediment like you know how do we get on this angry mama angry potas you're cleaning your

00:57:44 - 00:59:01 | Speaker 2:

can we talk for a moment about crypto.com yeah okay so i've kind of laid out the most of the important details in the story already but basically uh the crypto.com people which is actually i think run out of like singapore i'm guessing that's a tax thing although i don't know is this stuff even taxed um they accidentally sent an australian woman 10.4 million dollars when they meant to send her a $100 refund. And they've now sued her to get that money back. She's already distributed the money amongst her family and friends, including buying a house for, I think it was her sister in Melbourne. And now I guess a judge has ruled that she must return the money and that the house has to be sold. And she has to give the money back with interest, which that to me is like, come on. like first of all i i i'm sure that there's a listener who can tease out what the sort of how my argument falls apart from a moral standpoint pretty quickly when i say this but give me a break if they accidentally send her 10 million dollars i feel like that should be her money at the very least if she has to pay it back she shouldn't have to pay it back with interest

00:59:01 - 00:59:14 | Speaker 1:

when it was their mistake but that's what the judge is ruling yeah that's an interesting point Yeah. And she didn't. I don't know if you already said this and I zoned out, but I was like she when she got this windfall, she immediately split it up amongst members of her family as well.

00:59:14 - 01:00:40 | Speaker 2:

Right. Like she gave her sister and her mom. Well, that's part of the thing, too, is that like they're you know, they're going to have a hard time getting this money back because the only it seems like the only tangible asset that they could repossess is this house, which is one point five million in Melbourne and is in her name. and the judge has ordered that house has to be sold, which also kind of, God, would you like to, and there are pictures of the house in this article that I saw in this Australian newspaper. Somebody named Alex Turner Cohen was writing about this. There were apparently pictures of the house. It's pretty nice. I mean, it's a $1.5 million house, you'd imagine. But like your sister buys this house that you can live in because she got $10 million in accidental crypto money. and you're living in the house and you're living in the house for a while you must at some point have to think this is really going to work and then you know you're getting booted and they're selling the house and and repossessing it and right not repossessing but selling it and getting the money back i i think one aspect of this that's kind of funny to me is that i actually love matt damon like everything i've ever seen from matt damon in terms of interviews and how he is in the world uh i just adore like i really like i would like to be friends with matt damon like remember that story when he was in ireland and there was something he was shooting a movie in ireland i think during the pandemic and like he was like calling into a local radio station or

01:00:40 - 01:00:52 | Speaker 1:

something do you remember this story we talked about it i'm just it's ringing the faintest of bells yeah he was just like he was just like really oh that's right he kept calling was that

01:00:52 - 01:02:17 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was just really down to earth because he was filming something in this pretty small town in Ireland. And the whole place was abuzz because, you know, Matt Damon was in the in the vicinity. And then I feel like he sort of developed this kind of friendly relationship with like a local radio show and was like calling in. Right. Yeah. He showed up at NPR. Actually, I remember one time this was we were geeking out. He was on CNN once. This is when NPR was still feelingly feeling like it was more of a boutique type of deal. But I worked there And he showed up He went to NPR West For an interview And somebody gave him a t-shirt So he went to the West Coast facility It's in Culver City Where I used to work And where they still do a lot of stuff He was doing some interview there And somebody there gave him a t-shirt That said like NPR West And then he happened to be doing an interview on CNN A day or two later And he's wearing the NPR West t-shirt On CNN And we were all just like so stoked We were like that's so cool So I love Matt Damon I also think it's kind of funny that everyone's calling this the Matt Damon crypto like he is, you know, he is one of many famous people who got paid presumably a lot of money to do these ads for various crypto coins, if you will. And again, I think for a guy who's generally, I think, really comported himself very well in the world and it does not seem like he's sketchy in any way, shape or form. I feel like this crypto thing is a little bit of reputational damage.

01:02:17 - 01:04:44 | Speaker 1:

Well, that's sort of interesting. First of all, it does mean that the marketers kind of did what they needed, right? Like, there's a million cryptos out there. And I don't know anything about them, as I established earlier. But I know that Matt Damon is associated with one. So if you tell me the Matt Damon one, I'm like, okay, it's the Matt Damon one. And I guess you could also say the Larry David one. But like, you know, by attaching, I don't like Super Bowl commercials that just try to use celebrity for no reason. I think it's out of control. I have a lot of thoughts on that. But in this case, that Super Bowl commercial was effective because you can say, oh, it's the Matt Damon one. Oh, OK. There's some brand recognition for me. I think, though, so back to this idea of kind of found money or accidental money. It's funny. I was just coincidentally talking with Genevieve about this on After These Messages yesterday. And, Luke, you've heard me talk about this a lot on TBTL that, like, one of my biggest dreams in life, like, you're actively working to maybe, like, make your life better. I'm still hoping that I'm going to find a bag of money somewhere like I told you that my friend Tony and his friend were riding around a parking lot in Canton when he was probably like 14 years old kicked a bag and found a hundred dollars in there and he gave like fifty dollars to his sister for some reason anyway that story stuck in my head and I confirmed it with him recently I'm like because we're in touch again and I'm like hey am I remembering this right did you find a bag of money in a parking lot he's like yeah um and so I think that sort of like really planted a seed in my head when i was like a kid because i used to love finding a dollar here a dollar there maybe one time i found a 20 in a mall um and i still think there's a bag of money with my name on it but when i talk about that on tbtl people are say like if you find a bag of money in a parking lot like you have to tell the authorities or you have to maybe tell the the store that's not your money it's immoral to take it and i'm still so childish about these things i'm like what do you mean i found money it's my money like and when it comes to like a bank regular jg wentworth commercial i want it now it's my money and i want it now and like like literally when we played the game monopoly tell me this and i will stand in front of a judge and i will say this was there not a card that said bank error in your favor there was my friend and that has shaped my policy on this matter as well that is as far as i'm concerned precedent i have to check with my lawyers on that but i'm pretty sure that stands as precedent so even like not that the not that the regular

01:04:44 - 01:04:59 | Speaker 2:

banking industry hasn't been bailed out repeatedly by the government at various points and i mean there's just i mean the the sort of the way that the system is rigged in favor of these large financial institutions we're talking about the investment side of

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Thank you.

01:05:00 - 01:05:44 | Speaker 1:

things with you know these hedge funds and basically like almost like no downside to taking these huge risks and if they work out then a few people become very enriched and if they don't then you know you get bailed out because too big to fail etc that being said if like chase bank who i use and i have no particular love for if chase bank put ten thousand dollars into my account that wasn't my money i wouldn't feel like i had as strong a claim to it as if crypto.com put five eph into my like it just doesn't even seem real anyway if he come if he go and that's the show title if he come if he go do you want me to write it down yeah why'd you

01:05:44 - 01:06:45 | Speaker 2:

write that down but like yeah so for all of my like all of my yelling and pounding the desk in this i understand now that it is ridiculous finding physical money by the way this is the story and i don't think genevieve's an earshot right now but she told this on tv or on after these messages yesterday one of the reasons the it came up was she was saying that she had a friend who um whose dad or grandfather i think ran a uh some sort of mechanic shop for for cars you know and somebody some customer whom this person did not know brought in a used car and said hey i just bought this used car recently and there's something wrong with the seat like when i try to recline it or bring it forward it doesn't quite come forward all the way it's just kind of stuck and it's janky Can you take a look at it? And the mechanic, again, this is a relative of Genevieve's friend, takes a look at it and finds a big wad or roll of U.S. currency that is jammed in the seat, that is obstructing the seat from operating correctly.

01:06:46 - 01:06:52 | Speaker 1:

And let me just tell you, that's the best case scenario for why a seat's not working. Well, I mean, we talked about this for quite some time.

01:06:52 - 01:08:20 | Speaker 2:

I'm just like just imagine like you go in thinking like what's this going to cost me you never think this might be my windfall and so we talked about the temptation one might have like obviously the mechanic has very much a moral and ethical and legal I would say obligation to obviously to disclose that and give the person their money which he did and apparently the person just like I think he was going to say you know this wasn't really a fix it's free but I think the person like peeled off one of the greasy bills and gave it to the dude. you better have yeah um but you know there is a temptation there you know it wouldn't be legal or moral but there would be a temptation to be like oh nobody knows this money is here um but like is there is there any moral obligation of the person who recently bought the car and like to say to the previous owner like hey there's money here and then i started to say like kind of depends on who you bought the car from you know what i mean if i bought the car from one kind of person um i might not give it another thought but if i bought it from somebody who seemed like they're older and on a fixed income and they're selling their car is one of the kind of the last things and I would return that money probably like there I think there are some moral conversations to have there but I think it's just like as an adult I need to realize that just because you come into money even if you quote unquote find it whether it's in a bag or because it's been transferred into your account like it's not really yours that's not really how money works possession is not as big of a part of the law as I was led to believe which by the way ironically

01:08:20 - 01:09:59 | Speaker 1:

brings us back to crypto and the blockchain and one of the things that they sort of uh maybe that more applies to nfts but i but the idea that like this money is both not as trackable by the government but i mean maybe blockchain only applies to nfts maybe has no relevance to crypto i was gonna say with nfts i think it's the whole argument is you've got this very public ledger of what's the chain of custody on this so there's like if somebody had lost their eth in that car presumably they could go back and although i mean if that's the case like how is it that people are this is where the listeners heads are just going to explode listeners who understand this stuff unlike us uh how is it that you have people that have like a thumb drive with you know uh two billion dollars of of crypto on it and they can't find the thumb drive or they found it but it's you know password protected they forgot their password because you'd think that there would be some way to go back and at least verify that they had that money you know they had that crypto at some point and therefore you could recreate it in some way how about the guy this is a very famous story but it just popped up in my tiktok again the other day the guy who paid i think what's now maybe in the neighborhood of 20 million dollars worth of crypto or maybe pre-crash let's say it's 10 million he paid that for a free pizza do you remember this story yeah I think I do. Yeah. Vaguely. It was like the early days of crypto. He had bought a bunch of it for, you know, pennies and he wanted a pizza and probably just to be funny in some kind of forum somewhere was like, I'll pay, you know, whatever, 10,000 crypto bucks.

01:10:00 - 01:10:57 | Speaker 2:

for 10 000 bitcoins i guess for like a pizza and somebody did they got on a pizza and they brought it to him and like i mean i don't know i mean i i don't want to be too like money obsessed and i don't know what this guy's financial situation is other than this but i would have a pretty hard time not ruminating on that if i had like i have a friend up in bellingham who i used to play on a ymca basketball league with and he was really into crypto but he got in right before the like last big crash so i don't know when that was but i remember he had he had bought a bunch of crypto from his fishing money he would go up to alaska and fish and and then he was saving because you know you can make ten thousand dollars a week up there depending on if you know fish are running well and he would get up to go up there and he'd make this money then he would come back and then he would put it into crypto those are such two different universes i know right so funny

01:10:57 - 01:11:03 | Speaker 1:

one is like one of the oldest occupations and the other is crypto he would do this blacksmithing job

01:11:03 - 01:12:42 | Speaker 2:

all summer and then yeah right yeah hammering horseshoes on the horses he would shepherd all day yep and uh but so he i just remember he um he just kept losing money losing money on this crypto because he just got in at the exact wrong time but he kept being like i i think it's going to come back i think and then finally i don't know what he had in there you know whatever 30 40 50 000 bucks it got down to where there was just almost nothing left and i and then i saw him later a different time and i said hey you're still in that crypto and he goes nah i sold it and i bought a pressure washer um and i'm starting a pressure washing business um which he still has i think but it's like if he would have stayed in even what it had gotten down to he would have ended up with millions and millions of dollars like that was you know it in 2000 i'm dude i don't know the exact dates on this but let's just say in 2018 or 2017 having 50 000 bit of bitcoin 50 000 us dollars worth of bitcoin that if you if you could go back and buy that you know and have it now it'd just be worth an astronomical sum of money and i haven't checked in with i kind of don't want to bring it up when i like because he and i text every once in a while i don't really want to bring it up but like that those are the kind of things where it's like you know your life just and not that we know for a fact that money does not buy happiness and some of the most miserable people on earth are the people that have the most money it is not a fix for everything but like he's got these great family a wife a couple of kids and it's like there must just be those moments when he's pressure washing a roof thinking damn it this could have been 15 million

01:12:42 - 01:12:54 | Speaker 1:

dollars but of all occupations pressure washing is incredibly satisfying i'll bet you his brain is so soothed by the work that he does every day although it is tough would you consider that as

01:12:54 - 01:12:59 | Speaker 2:

your if movie theater manager doesn't work out would you consider pressure washer as one of

01:12:59 - 01:13:06 | Speaker 1:

your other fallback i'll bet you that's a tough job i bet you you're tired and achy at the end of the day but boy that would be cool i've never had the opportunity to actually use a pressure

01:13:06 - 01:13:43 | Speaker 2:

washer oh man i know i pressure washed the entire the i guess you would call it pool deck at burbank springs but it wasn't a deck it wasn't made of wood it was just like this weird pebbly cement but it just had this build up over the years and i borrowed rich who is real and it's coming up on the show a lot lately yeah borrowed his pressure washer and it was such messy work because you're just blasting yeah blasting these this you know dirt and sludge everywhere but it is when it was all done oh my gosh it is extremely gratifying yeah that's one thing the tiktok videos kind of

01:13:43 - 01:13:58 | Speaker 1:

don't really emphasize huh like that's all going somewhere it's probably splashing up on your legs and ankles i would assume all over the place like and you've got to really you at the end of the day do you like kind of have a pile of it somewhere that you have to dispose of of the gunk that

01:13:58 - 01:14:33 | Speaker 2:

you've blasted off i mean i guess it's it depends on the place you're doing it where i was it was going up against like a fence basically that was kind of separated by some grass and then up on this like rockery so it was kind of blending and it wasn't the worst but it was definitely like you're right they don't like you know it's all going somewhere you cannot destroy matter yeah so you're you're blasting it off of one thing and it's going somewhere else but again it is And you're right, also, very tiring after a while. Very kind of, you're bending over, so kind of back aching and back breaking by the end of it.

01:14:33 - 01:14:39 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. By the way, I'm working on a machine that will destroy matter. Oh, really? I'll let you know how that's going.

01:14:39 - 01:14:43 | Speaker 2:

Can I get in on the ground floor of that since I lost out on our friend's movie extravaganza?

01:14:44 - 01:14:58 | Speaker 1:

I'm also working on a machine that blocks out the sun. I got a whole bunch of capers planned. Capers, that's cute. Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man! It's not from a female.

01:15:00 - 01:15:09 | Speaker 2:

All right. I have just been briefly scanning my inbox and my inbox is now just people giving me advice on my acne problems and my boat problems.

01:15:09 - 01:15:37 | Speaker 3:

So that's good. And your boat problems. Oh, that is good. Yeah. Trailer problem. Also, keep an eye out. Some people were writing, I think, to both of us, but mostly for you about some options for future cat care. if you ever have to travel again. Oh, yeah, totally. Interesting ideas there and, like, some, I think, app-based stuff. So after you download some motivating music ringtones to get you through the hard project.

01:15:37 - 01:15:37 | Speaker 2:

On my APM phone?

01:15:37 - 01:16:50 | Speaker 3:

Maybe, yeah, maybe look at that. Here, I have some voicemails here. I don't know how much we can get through today, but actually I'd like to get through a couple of these because tomorrow will be Blur's Days, and these are getting a little bit long in the tooth since they're from before the summer games. I got this note here from Max in Seattle regarding car parking on the curb. I think that Max makes it clear, but I'll reiterate one more time. He mentions a note that I once received on my car that I was not put off by, but actually it informed the way I parked. And it's kind of the best case scenario for finding a note on your car when you've parked somewhat inconsiderately. And it happened in L.A. years ago in this I was staying at an Airbnb for a few months and I was parking on a street that had really tough parking. And I had parked and left like probably way too much space in front of my car between the car and the driveway. And I got a note on my car that just said, hey, if you had parked a little bit closer to the driveway, I could have fit in behind you. And that always stuck with me. And so I'm always kind of careful where I park and making sure that cars can park around me. So that is what Max is referring to when he tells this story.

01:16:50 - 01:18:24 | Speaker 1:

Hey, fellas. This is Max from Seattle Calling, and I was listening to Andrew recounting how he got a note left on his car for not parking far enough up into the curb and not leaving enough space for somebody to be behind him. And it reminded me of a story that I had when I first moved to Seattle. I used to live in the Wallingford neighborhood, and there was enough space at the end of my street to fit three cars if you really squeezed, but it was kind of close to the stop sign, and they say to leave 30 feet. So one night I came home and I parked as far back as I could in the first of the spots, so it still leaves as much space for the other two cars to park in front of me. And when I woke up the next morning, I found that somebody had stolen my car, which was alarming and sent me into kind of a panic so i you know i first checked in with the local businesses to see if they'd seen anything or had security footage or whatever and then finally somebody said well you should try the tow truck uh companies so i called around a little bit and sure enough found out that the person who was still in my car was the seattle police department because i had parked too close to the driveway entrance behind me so you know i was trying to be a good guy and leave enough space for the cars in front of me. And as Andrew pointed out, no good deed goes unpunished. So I guess you're kind of damned if you do and damned if you don't. But I hope this is a, you know, at least an entertaining story. Don't get your car towed in front of your house. Embarrassing. All right, power out.

01:18:24 - 01:19:13 | Speaker 3:

That is the thing. You do have to respect the homeowners, too, or if it's a driveway, the people coming and going. Like because if you park too close to a curb, contrarily, you're creating an issue. Like if that person is trying to leave their driveway, they might not be able to back out. Or I hate trying to pull out of an area where somebody is parked too close to the driveway and you can't see around them. And it makes you can't see around the parked car and it makes for a dangerous pull out. You can't see if traffic is coming. And so I do know that like I remember when I was, I don't know, talking about my story of Wallingford when I left a note on a neighbor's car and said, hey, could you park closer to the driveway? driveways we could fit more cars here and the guy went freaking ballistic on me I do remember talking to people like Phyllis who was like yeah but as somebody who has a driveway I also don't like when people park you know too close to my driveway so you do have to kind of thread the

01:19:13 - 01:19:59 | Speaker 2:

needle there and follow the laws I guess I am looking as we do this show and as I'm the days when I'm doing the show from here in Portland I'm just staring at a parking spot that is basically the bane of the existence of the people who live in the house uh near the park it's street parking so basically you have this kind of quieter residential street that intersects with a busier sort of arterial right in front of me and this is the residential street and you've got a house a very grand actually kind of stately old dutch colonial maybe and they have a driveway and you can tell that they have because street parking is you know pretty precious here in portland um so on either side of their driveway there is legal street parking but you can just tell that these people

01:20:00 - 01:22:51 | Speaker 1:

are so they also seem to be maybe older they both drive like cadillacs like who even drives a cadillac like big old ones yeah big like not even that old we're talking like late 90s which still it's like who's driving a cadillac these days and like i always see them backing one of these cadillacs down their driveway and what they've done is that move where so they've painted i think probably themselves this like yellow paint that goes from where it dips down for their driveway back a good half of a car length then they've painted lines like this is where the cars can park and can't park um and then even with all of that anytime someone parks in the spot that's um kind of the the spot that's closer to me which puts it closer to the bigger arterial street it's just one spot that's all that's allowed there it's just one little spot but anytime somebody pulls into that spot these people come out on their porch and watch the person park so as to make sure that they abide by the painted line and do they ever approach the person if they don't uh i think becca might have gotten approached once or at least she said it was weird because they were just like glaring at her while she parked like they are they do not like that this parking spot exists uh as close to their driveway as it does which again it's probably based on some you know experience they've had but then the other thing is so this spot in question that is just this one little by itself one car length parking spot it's also basically what happens is if you're coming down this kind of residential uh street uh it's a two lane road and so if you are driving towards me and you want to get over into the right lane of this little this little road you start Migrating you start taking your car from being Because you know when you have like a residential street you really Pretty much have to drive down the middle of the street Like because that's like it's only wide Enough for you to have kind of like One car at a time coming down the middle of it So there's this point where Very naturally any car that's coming Down now they're getting to a little Bit more opening in the roadway and Then they want to get over to the right because there's actually a lane Divider when you get to the stoplight And when they do that Every single car Andrew comes Within four inches of just nailing the side mirror of whatever car is in that spot and it i sit here all day watching amazon trucks and people go by and no one ever hits it and everyone is within four inches of it and it's a real testament to the razor's edge we all live on because i like any of these people if they're four inches off they whack the side mirror of this car in this case it happens to be a Toyota it you know whatever car happens to be parked there and the fact that it doesn't happen five times a day is shocking to me because there's almost no margin for error I do think that the

01:22:51 - 01:23:08 | Speaker 2:

the invention of bendy side view mirrors is the best thing since the invention of bendy arms on glasses I remember being a kid and when I finally got a pair of glasses that had bendy arms so that they wouldn't just snap off if you applied the wrong pressure to them game changer do you though

01:23:08 - 01:23:26 | Speaker 1:

every time you well you have you have more dedicated parking now but when you were living in say uh roosevelt etc would you just habitually just always push your mirrors in uh no um i wouldn't i probably should uh well i did it first genevieve really wanted me to if i

01:23:26 - 01:23:32 | Speaker 2:

was with if i was with genevieve i definitely did right it's i mean it's one of the things

01:23:32 - 01:23:36 | Speaker 1:

that takes two seconds and it totally makes sense but it never occurs to me either yeah i think i

01:23:36 - 01:23:58 | Speaker 2:

i do have memories of i don't do it now we don't need to but like um yeah i do have i'd roll down my i'd roll down the passenger side window and then from the driver's side kind of reach over and try to pull it in i think sometimes or i would just get out of the car and do it which makes a lot more sense but i don't know if i was religious about it i know that we did it sometimes and then of course if you're just in the city and you're parking someplace that you're unfamiliar

01:23:58 - 01:24:59 | Speaker 1:

with and it seems really tight i will do that but max i'm sorry for you yeah that's super annoying don't even get me started because i'm sure listen max sounds like a reasonable person i can't imagine max was like fully blocking someone's driveway probably just was within the like three feet of clearance you're supposed to leave and uh i just i mean i think towing is such a racket i am so like one of the great one of the only decent silver linings to the pandemic was you know they suspended all parking tickets in a lot of cities including portland and also it was like they just decided yeah you know what it's a pandemic we're a short-staffed we're not going to spend a lot of time towing people and you know what society continued just fine there's this argument that if you don't have like an aggressive towing policy people are going to just be you know it's going to just be absolute pandemonium out there but everything in portland has functioned just the same as back when they probably had a very active fleet of tow trucks going. In the defense of that

01:24:59 - 01:25:00 | Speaker 2:

though, it was

01:25:00 - 01:25:04 | Speaker 3:

was a different scenario because there was much fewer there were much fewer cars looking to park

01:25:04 - 01:25:32 | Speaker 2:

at that time true but now but i think even when we come back i think even as nor quote-unquote normal life comes back i think we're going to be looking at i don't think things are ever going to look the way they looked yeah like i don't think we're ever going to have people don't need to drive to stores to buy things as much people don't need to go to physical locations like i kind of feel like right now in portland now maybe it's summertime so that helps but this feels to me like the new normal now like this may be where we're at with things yeah i mean we're

01:25:32 - 01:25:42 | Speaker 3:

still i still think things need to kind of shake out as far as um labor is concerned it's like it's it seems untenable where we are now well yeah i was listening to a really interesting episode of

01:25:42 - 01:26:16 | Speaker 2:

the ezra klein show the other day the new york times puts out and it was actually ezra's producer who was hosting but he was talking uh to a couple of uh writers who are journalists who study Basically work from home And just work that kind of stuff And they were saying that what everybody basically Says is the hybrid Work model is the worst of both worlds Like make people go to an office Or allow them to not go to an office But the hybrid which a lot of people are on now Like two days in Three days out or whatever is actually Somehow kind of worse than all of it

01:26:16 - 01:28:08 | Speaker 3:

I could see that I meant the labor of just like You know like one of my favorite you know Kind of not lowbrow but one of my favorite casual restaurants in seattle has been like roxies right and and in fremont which has had like a jewish style or new york style jewish deli vibes and pastrami and stuff um they're closing and they literally just said like we can't hire any cooks like we've been around for 17 years and there are just no cooks anymore and we're closing wow yeah and so like i'm talking about like i think i was thinking a little bit more about the service industry like something's got to shake out like i just don't think that this feels we definitely feel like we're in a transitional time as far as this stuff is concerned but anyway hey i before i get get in on that uh get in over my head on a topic that i'm probably not ready to talk about um let me play one more voicemail for you here and we can get out of here this is another story you know like it's funny how the things that i'm drawn to the stories that i'm always drawn to are things that are about like kind of petty grievances right like parking and other other drivers being mad at you if you didn't park right homeowners being mad at you dog poop in in garbage bins all that kind of stuff And, of course, you would add to that list line cutters. I do not like line cutters. Most people don't unless you are a line cutter. Oh, my God. I saw a brand new – I was parking somewhere the other day where this parking lot that is usually not full on Sundays was absolutely filled to the brim. Do parking lots have brims? I couldn't find a place to park. But there was a new Dodge Charger that was straddling the white line because it didn't want any – it only had temporary plates, and it was so clear this person, this D-bag, did not want anybody parking next to his new car or her new car, and so just straddled the line. Muscle car. Oh, I wanted to destroy the car. I just wanted to burn everything down. I didn't. I'm a cool cat. I don't get into other people's business. Anyway, this story from Christian is about line cutting.

01:28:08 - 01:28:44 | Speaker 1:

hi guys listen to christian in portland a friend of mine told me a story the other day that uh seemed like it might be right up your alley um she was in line at the fred meyer gas station here in town uh it's quite a long line and just as her uh just as her turn comes up uh some guy kind of sneaks in ahead of her and one of the attendants sees this happen and uh says hey man that's not cool there's a line you got to go around to the back and uh and wait just like

01:28:44 - 01:28:48 | Speaker 3:

everybody else now that's great right it's actually a person of authority to the degree

01:28:48 - 01:29:59 | Speaker 2:

that there's yeah that's a huge upside oh man can i just tell you like i was in that's a big shift of being in oregon versus pretty much everywhere else i think except new jersey right where like somebody pumps the gas for you i was it was a broilingly hot day a few weeks ago and i was getting gas while i was in the the pump this was so hot actually that the gas station attendants weren't out there they were like this is self-pumped for the next few hours because this is like unsafe for our employees to just be out there all day long so i go into the actual gas station to pay and there's a kid he's probably like 16 17 and he answers the phone says chevron and the person on the other end of the line is like all mad that they said that i think it was like their mom or somebody showed up and then was in their car and wanted help and was turned away and he said well we didn't turn anybody away uh today we would never do that and then you can just tell the person's like yelling yelling he goes i'm not trying to be confrontational i'm just trying to tell you um you know what our what our policy is and we wouldn't you know we wouldn't ever turn somebody away who was in their car i don't know if the what was going on with the person

01:30:00 - 01:30:56 | Speaker 1:

the car what i think was that this was a misunderstanding that got relayed to somebody and then they called the gas station all mad but like there's and maybe it was because this person had pulled up during the time when the attendants were actually not outside because of the the heat and then the kid was just like but if you'd like to come back by or have somebody else come by we'd be happy to help you we don't ever turn anyone away and then he just like de-escalated the situation in this amazing way and then he just hung up the phone and everyone in the gas station minimart just started applauding are you serious for the kid yeah i like high-fived him it was like i was like this kid is going places like he just totally and he was he was totally respectful but he stood his ground but he wasn't being a jerk he said i'm not trying to be confrontational i'm just letting you know kind of what our policy is etc and we're all just like everyone who's just like waiting to buy their like peanuts we're all just like waiting to see how this goes and then he hangs up and then we all start clapping give that kid a badge okay we're just getting in the

01:30:56 - 01:31:18 | Speaker 3:

we're just starting christian's story here so christian is um or christian's friend witnesses this thing there's a line cutter with the car it is in portland so you're not supposed to pump your own gas and this line cutter gets caught by the attendant and the attendant says no no you got to go back to the back of the line and uh the attendant directs my friend over to some other

01:31:18 - 01:32:27 | Speaker 2:

pump and uh she starts getting her gas meanwhile the guy that cut the line he gets all bent out of shape he sounds like he's kind of cussing out the attendant some and finally says well i'll you know fine i'll just pump my own gas which uh as a reminder is illegal in oregon um and so he goes out and he's messing with the pump and he's getting everything set up but he can't get the gas to flow he's trying he's trying the pump just won't turn on and my friend kind of leans over to the attendant says what's going on with the guy over there the attendant says says we had his we just turned his pump off so he's either going to figure it out and leave or we're going to call security and when my friend was rolling out with her new tank of gas she paid it and everything that the line cutter was just apparently still sort of standing there fuming with his hands on his hips trying to figure out what to do next. Ooh, like an angry mama. So I guess – Like an angry POTUS. I don't know what the lesson is there. There's probably a lesson.

01:32:27 - 01:33:33 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, the lesson is somebody got caught and somebody who's just – that's the thing that bugs me about all this stuff. I have had a friend who hears all my bullshit on TBTL and says, it's like, why are you not good at just minding your own business? Just mind your own business. And it's like, yeah, but I think and again, it probably for me, it probably goes back to all, you know, all kinds of bullying activities as a kid, because I used to like to bully kids. No, you know, like being being the victim of bullying or whatever, like, I'm sure that I have too much energy around it. But I'm sure it's, you know, tied up in this idea that some people just think that they don't have to follow the same rules as the rest of us. And I follow the rules. And it's one thing if you don't follow the rules, but it's not really affecting anybody. But almost all of these things do affect somebody in some way, you know, just saying that, like, no, I'm more important than you. I'm going to pull my car up in front of yours and cut in line because for some reason I'm in a bigger hurry. I'm it's just like whether it's whether you're not paying attention to what you're doing or you are paying attention and you just think, hey, I'm going to take up two parking spots because my car is nicer than everybody else in here. It's really galling.

01:33:34 - 01:34:39 | Speaker 1:

Absolutely. I you know joke on the show about thinking the rules don't apply to me but it's usually in very specific context I hope in ways that it doesn't really actually directly impact anyone else because like yeah I would never ever ever do that where I would just like try to cut the line at the gas station. I have had the experience, in fact, recently where I was driving and I was, it was somewhere that I wasn't particularly familiar with, like it was another city altogether. And I didn't realize what was happening with the merge situation, like the highways. And so, cause I was looking at ways and I realized, oh no, this huge line of cars that's been on my right. These are people that are waiting to use that thing that I'm trying to get to. And so I will sometimes like what I did with that was I just kept driving and I was like, either I'm just going to have to go make a loop, go get off the freeway, get back around. That's fine. Or if there's like a semi truck that's slow getting off the blocks and there's like a two or three car length that I can slide into, I will do that. And sure enough, it presented itself and I used that. That's on the line as far as I'm concerned.

01:34:39 - 01:34:44 | Speaker 3:

And you waved, right? The important thing is you waved like a mad person.

01:34:44 - 01:35:00 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly. I want to let them know that I understand that I was, you could say, cutting the line. Definitely want to show appreciation there. That's the kind of thing that I will – I don't even – but here's – I'm getting – as I'm getting older, I don't like that kind of –

01:35:00 - 01:35:17 | Speaker 2:

anxiety like the reason i had to do that was because i didn't realize that i was missing i didn't realize i should have gotten in line a while ago nowadays though if i'm driving somewhere and i know that's like hey they just start lining up in that lane for a while i'll just do it because i don't like the anxiety of wondering is there going to be an opening for me it's yeah

01:35:17 - 01:36:16 | Speaker 3:

now i will say like i i do quit and it doesn't sound like this is the situation with you it sounds like you were in a place where you actually were you had to kind of cut a little bit to use that word but everything you said makes sense but i will say there is another phenomenon where people think when you have a scissor merge on the highway where one lane is ending or a zipper merge i should say yeah sorry where one lane is ending and you have to merge at some point some people feel like well i got to get out of this lane right away because i see a half a mile up there the lane ends you're not cutting if you drive all the way to the front of that lane like the reason the lane is that long is because they want to relieve traffic for that amount of time You're not being a jerk if you drive as far if you start crossing, you know, single non dotted lines and you're driving on the curb and then cutting people over or using bus lanes. That's not right. But you can zipper merge and use use the entirety of the lane. It's good for everybody involved to take involved as many.

01:36:16 - 01:36:39 | Speaker 2:

Our friend Bill Radke has many a famous rant on this. Yeah, Seattle famously is one of the places where people are least likely to let other people in on zipper merges because they feel like the person's doing something sketchy. When, as you said, that's exactly the design by like strength, by stretching it out. It means that more cars can get into eventually the same lane with less disruption of the traffic.

01:36:39 - 01:36:56 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, it's it's it's it's like saying, hey, this is a three lane highway, but we're only going to use two of them because it would be rude to use the third one. because eventually that lane will end. Well, eventually all lanes end, and that's why I'd like to end the show today. Eventually all lanes end.

01:36:56 - 01:37:12 | Speaker 2:

Also a great George Harrison song. Right. But I like the unreleased one. Sure. So, like, more soulful. No, you're right about that. That is a good place for us to end today's show. I think ETH come, ETH go. Oh, yeah, I got that. Yep. That's, I mean, that's inspired, my friend. That was really good.

01:37:12 - 01:37:12 | Speaker 3:

Yeah.

01:37:13 - 01:37:47 | Speaker 2:

So that's going to do it for today's episode. Thank you for listening. We are going to be back here tomorrow. with more of this imaginary radio hope to see you then till then have a great wednesday uh do try to stay cool uh go mariners oh my god andrew i gotta send you the i was hot yesterday on my mariners bets dude oh nice i had a parlay that involved george kirby had to get more than five strikeouts a eugenio suarez had to get a single and mitch hanniger had to have an rbi and wow

01:37:47 - 01:38:01 | Speaker 3:

Actually, Suarez getting a single is that because usually he's either going to get like, you know, extra bases or, you know, potentially a home run. Yeah, no, I was it was a how many strikeouts did Kirby have at the end of the day? Do you know, I believe six. Exactly. Nice.

01:38:02 - 01:38:09 | Speaker 2:

He had it was a fine day to be a Mariners fan. So anyway, we'll see you tomorrow. Until then, please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

01:38:17 - 01:39:12 | Speaker 1:

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