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All right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Why now? What are they doing?

And how can you steer clear of it all?

My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host.

Good golly, Miss Molly.

Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, where, good golly, Miss Molly, indeed, is it, doth my eyes deceive me, 63 degrees and cloudy, it's unusual, although it is going to get up to 90 today, and we are going to get up to episode 3762 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. Using that family guy weenie in the butt audio to start the show. I may start a show called Weenie and the Bubz, which is just me and my cat, where I yell at her for knocking things off of various counters. Even as we speak, she is poised. Poised, trying to jump up on the broadcast center. But then she saw me grab the squirt bottle, like in one of those westerns, where somebody reaches for their gun in the saloon. That was me reaching for the squirt bottle. And it worked. She ran out of here. So we are ready to do the show, my friends, and tell you about some of the top stories today, including a situation in France where they are using AI to bust people on having unpermitted swimming pools.

It's the story of a man with a brothel of a home in a pool filled with human excrement.

So we'll tell you what's going on with that. And then we will also tell you about a disturbing trend in Canada. Look north, my son. Canada. Canada. All right, all right, whatever. Where people are swallowing insects on live television, left and right. Get out of here, you flies. Well, it happened two times. So we're going to tell you about the two times that it happened, where somebody swallowed an insect on live television in Canada. And I don't really know if this is the hill that I want to die on, but I feel like people were really rude to Leo DiCaprio yesterday. Like, he broke up with his girlfriend or she broke up with him. There was a breakup in his life. and the delight the delight that people seem to take in the end of a relationship for this dude was it was the la times got in on it it was it was interesting to observe so we'll talk about that we'll also do the blurs days because it is a thursday and my goodness you know we were doing the summer games for a couple of weeks and boy uh we've got a quite the um like the what was the name of that ship the ever evermore no that's battle of evermore i believe that's a uh led zeppelin song that ship that got stuck in the suez canal i'm trying to make a reference to that as it relates to the blurs days like something got wedged and now there's a lot of them anyway we'll do those later in the show with the help of this young man the longest running co-bro of the show may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships he is andrew fireball walsh and he's joining me right now good morning my friend good morning luke you mentioned that intro

package we heard at the beginning of the show that tape that montage i feel like sometimes this show well luke it's like a tree right and these intros we play dynasty it's like a dynasty you hold it and then you let it go and then you come back and you grab it

You know, this show is like a dynasty. You hold it, and then you hand it off to the next person. But I sort of feel like those intros we play are kind of like the rings of the tree. I listened to that one. That one is like 10 years old, I think. Like, literally, it's like labeled number 137 in my own little personal collector series, which means, you know, this is going back to probably, I don't know, maybe it's nine years old or something. And it's so bro-y. I grabbed that late last night. I made it 10 years ago, but, like, you know, Family Guy is in there. Everything about that just sort of – oh, and, like, some of those early drops were from Grand Theft Auto. Like, the guy saying, you might hate us, but we hate ourselves even more, which is kind of on point for us.

Like, the video game, GTA?

Yeah, there was a brief period in Los Angeles where I got, like, an old version of that on my PC, and I would play it for a while.

Wait, is it like a radio show within the video game? Who's saying that?

That is one cool thing about that game, which, again, I haven't played in years. I only played one version of it that was already kind of outdated when I was playing it, like, in 2014. Oh, you know what? That can't be from 2012, because I was playing this video game when I was in Los Angeles around 2014. So that's probably when I made that intro. But it was, like, Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. I don't know where I was driving the car around. But, like, those worlds are full. Like, you drive your car, and you can just switch through the radio, and they have, like, real radio stations that are probably, I don't know, eight hours long on a loop or something like that. And you can, like, switch. And there's hosts on the radio stations. There's hosts, and there's commercials, and there's all, they've really built out the world. But, yeah, anyway, listening to that intro, I don't know if I stand by that. Late last night, I thought, well, I don't feel like doing any more work, so this will do. By the way, one thing I was wrong about. I love the transparency in your process.

And I'm right there with you, by the way. I'm more than willing to do the absolute minimum on this, so I'm not judging you.

The little drop at the end. I'm surprised about this because I looked something up while you were talking there. That little drop at the end of the montage of the person saying that they need to take improv classes.

I think I need to sign up for an improv class because I can't think of a damn thing to say right now.

Do you know who that is? Can you play it one more time?

Yeah. Because now that I'm playing it without the music, I thought it was somebody else, but I was wrong. So that's how this show is going so far. Can you guess who I thought this was, but I was wrong about?

I think I need to sign up for an improv class because I can't think of a damn thing to say right now.

Am I laughing at the end of that?

Well, that's the thing. When I heard that in the intro just now, I thought that was Camaro Kev. and then you laughing but apparently i'm wrong about that does that sound at all like kamara

kev to you uh when i i need i think i need to sign up for an improv class because i can't think

of a damn thing to say right now i have no idea who that is but that has to be me laughing in the background that is my signature annoying laugh it is not it is somebody else has an

Annoying laugh. No, that's the guys. I have that labeled. I found the original clip here. It's labeled as You Look Nice Today. That's from the podcast You Look Nice Today with, you know, the three guys. You know them all. They've been on TBTL before. Of course. Scott Simpson. Hot Dogs Ladies. And Jesse Thorne.

No, it's not Thorne. You Look Nice Today?

Yeah.

Oh, that was Put This On. Sorry. Yeah. You Look Nice Today. But they were on TBTL. Yes, they were. So that is me laughing in the background. No, I don't think so.

I think that's from the podcast, You Look Nice Today. I mean, I'll play it again, but this is labeled as You Look Nice Today.

And I think I need to sign up for an improv class because I can't think of a damn thing to say right now.

It does sound like you, but I wouldn't have grabbed it from that. I was listening to that podcast when it was still a going property.

Because we did have, it was like Merlin Mann, Scott Simpson, and another person. And they happened to be passing through Seattle. They were doing some kind of, I think, a live show. And we had them on TBTL. Yeah. There's no chance that that was pulled from. It's the You Look Nice Today folks on TBTL with me annoyingly laughing in the background. No, you're probably right because guess what? There is a slight digital fragmenting on the laugh. Listen to the annoying laugh, please, and listen for the – you'll appreciate this – the slight elongation of it being somebody who was on an internet connection. Adam Lissagor is the third person, Scott Simpson. Adam Lissagor, exactly.

And he's the one who's in like the Carvana ads or something. Not Carvana, but something like that. Yes, he is.

And he – Adam Lissagor.

Alessagor and Jesse did put this on. That's why I was confused. I do love all those guys. Listen to this. You can hear a digital fragmentation in the annoying lab.

I think I need to sign up for an improv class because I can't think of a damn thing to say right now.

Yeah. I don't know if I hear the digital there, but the whole thing just sort of doesn't sound like our sound. But anyway. The audio, like the compression. Yeah, there's just something about it. Yeah, and that doesn't sound like it from the interview. But yeah, I never heard that interview. I was really big into that show for a while, and it was like, it was the appeal of scarcity, too. Well, it was the appeal of humor. That show used to make me laugh my damn ass off, but then they just started releasing them fewer. How many cheeks did you lose? Further between, only one, and now I've got three toes, one cheek, and a coach who's yelling at me for some reason. But, yeah, but then they just kind of stopped at one point, and I was just like, I need my fix. I need my more, but I'm finally over it. Can we talk about Leo DiCaprio for a minute?

Yeah, I'm surprised that this is the stance you're taking. Is any of this on your radar in any way, shape, or form?

Yeah, I saw it all over yesterday, but it sounds like the issue wasn't that he broke up with his girlfriend, but that he's apparently never that we know of dated anybody older than 25. Is that what the thing is?

This was what the internet was telling me. Um, I, so for some reason, the people that I follow on Twitter were all lining up to make their version of the Leo DiCaprio dates women who are much younger than him joke, um, which is fine. And again, I don't, I'm not, I don't think I'm not worried for Leo DiCaprio's like emotional health. This is a person who's had a, by all outward appearances, a pretty good life. things seem to be going pretty well for him but he and his girlfriend broke up and again she is much younger than he is but the delight they dated for four years now let's just go can we just for a second go with and i don't know if this is true or not let's go with the assumption that they loved each other and that they dated for four years he was in a relationship with someone for four years and the relationship ended and the internet couldn't have been happier that this these two people were no longer in a relationship together which to me let's leave leo out of it i assume this other person someone named camila marone was sad about it i also assume leo dicaprio was sad about it like the two people who apparently loved each other for four years are not together anymore and it was the greatest thing that ever happened to the internet yesterday and i just thought like wow like it's i guess the idea is that he dates women that are younger than him so therefore his relationship has like zero like there's nothing to it emotionally for him and this other person this is what the la times wrote the los angeles times this was a tweet leonardo dicaprio 47 and camilla marone and then they put in brackets take a guess have reportedly split the Los Angeles Times tweeted that like I don't it just again it struck me as weird that everyone was so happy about someone's relationship ending when other than an age difference it seemed like nobody in the relationship did anything particularly wrong and also they're probably

sad about it yeah that's funny I don't have strong feelings about this one way or the other I certainly don't have i don't share your concern over the feelings of leonardo dicaprio i started

by saying i'm not worried about leo dicaprio okay then why then what are you worried about i think it's weird that a whole bunch of people decided to delight in two people it wasn't like they dated for four minutes they dated for four years i get married and divorced like every four hours like that four years is a substantial amount of time for two people to be in a relationship and just the callousness with which everyone treated two people who, again, presumably loved each other and then realized they weren't right for each other, it just struck me as so, so strange that nobody took one second to think like, oh, these people, you know, like, certainly if they were closer in age, I don't think that the reaction would have been the same. I mean, again, I guess we see Leo DiCaprio as a person who, because he's super wealthy and has his pick of any, you know, sort of female person that he wants, supposedly. We have no sympathy for him when he goes through a breakup. But I just, like, every single person in my Twitter timeline was just, like, lining up to do their version of the joke about how he dates women that are younger than him. And it just was, it was just strange to me.

I don't find it strange. I think that maybe, so it sounds like you're not worried about him, you're just surprised. And I guess I'm not surprised because I think that...

That this in this case, he represents something, I would say. And again, I haven't given this a lot of thought. I'm just like you're right about that. I'm just, you know, just reacting to what you're saying here on the fly. So, you know, maybe I could be convinced otherwise. But I think that I'm not surprised by it because, I mean, there's been I mean, you know, all this. I mean, there's a long tradition, which, you know, I think is not maybe not quite as common now as it was back in the day. But throughout my lifetime, there was this whole thing of like, you know, Hollywood actors, especially like the ones who were once labeled hunks or whatever. can go you know well into their older age dating people significantly younger and it raises all kinds of issues about kind of power dynamics and and and and what relationships mean and you know whether or not you're breaking up with people when they get to a certain age which i'm not even claiming he's doing like i didn't exactly research on this broke up with whom in this like

this younger person could have broken up with leo dicaprio like i i feel like nobody even actually

knows who broke up with who but yeah I mean for me like I don't know I don't this doesn't move the needles for me if a bunch of people kind of want to dunk on this people are dunking on things all the time and if it's sort of like kind of raises conversations like I'm on something I don't even know what website I'm on just kind of talking about why it matters like you know some sort of piece about this this trend of men dating younger women especially and people of power in Hollywood and stuff if it raises those conversations and people are dunking like I'm just i don't know it does it doesn't shock me it doesn't surprise me i don't feel bad for anybody involved in this situation i think everybody's going to be fine so i don't know i can't i can't

quite get to your level of whatever you're feeling when when we were doing uh wait wait at wolf trap i happened to be chatting with a person backstage actually an npr personality andrew who was uh it was notable to me and becca married she was married to a person who was significantly older than her and it was a delightful chat and uh backstage and then later we were both like oh that was interesting i didn't maybe expect there to be that age that age gap between these two people but i will tell you this if they broke up i would be like oh that's a bummer for them like despite the fact that this person's husband was a good 20 years older than them like it doesn't to me mean like i bet you that the person who is dating leo dicaprio this this person who again i was unfamiliar with until yesterday probably had a lot emotionally invested in this relationship and i bet you to some degree so did leo dicaprio again it's like this four years is not an insignificant amount of time for people to be together in a relationship and like this idea that because their age is different and because he is seen as like this guy who kind of has his pick of the litter that that it doesn't exist as any kind of meaningful relationship that it's just all bullshit and we can just make like basically like if I were to be in that position and again I know Leo DiCaprio is under the sympathetic figure because he's beyond wealthy and and he has all the privilege that could ever happen to a person but uh so if I guess if somebody's getting kind of like roasted on the internet it might as well be him because he has all the privilege but it just was so it was just odd to me that people who i think first of i mean for instance like if i don't know i'm trying to think of like a a some kind of a like a thought experiment i'm trying to think of you know some other example of of a relation of a relationship where everyone's just like taking joy in the fact that two people figured they couldn't you know make the relationship work anymore and i just i can't think of another example where people would

take this much delight i guess yeah i again i don't know the um the history if i if you know if i wanted to make an argument here which i don't i'm not interested in making an argument here but i would maybe educate myself a little bit more about what his dating pattern has been you mentioned that it's four years so i guess then he was a 43 year old dating a 21 year old if that's the case when they first got together so um that's kind of an interesting thing and if that's part of a trend of this older men continuing to date much much younger women have the right to date adults who want to date them yeah i didn't say otherwise age ranges didn't say otherwise i'm just saying that if i wanted to make an argument i would maybe get a better sense of what this i i'm with you like i don't go i mean you know i'm not speaking here as the from the perspective of somebody who is trying to make these jokes or have a strong feeling or dunking on these things but i don't i guess you said you find it odd and surprising i don't find it odd and surprising that people are kind of like hey there's this guy in hollywood who is like you know again one of these guys who came up of a certain age where he was like the hunky guy in hollywood and if it's true that he has this like long-standing pattern of dating significantly younger women especially you know 21 year old i look at 21 year olds i'm like oh that's a kid you know like uh they're not i mean i know it's you know it's legal and everybody's allowed and i i really don't judge other people's relationships which is fun why i'm sort of taking this like i i i'm with you like i don't judge other people's relationships um generally speaking when it comes to celebrities i always kind of root for them i always love hearing about like you know celebrities who are goldie exactly long-term relationships like i'm pro love hamlin and lisa renna that's exactly who i was yeah that's who i was going to bring up i'm going to google both of those people later and i want to have a retort tomorrow but i mean i guess people are kind of like hey this is part of a trend of this guy who is constantly doing this and so far has not dated somebody over 25 i'm not somebody who's jumping on that or getting worked up about it but i don't find it surprising or socking uh right no i i mean i think i think

you're i think that makes sense what you're saying and and certainly yeah you were like the one person on my timeline that wasn't just like licking their chops or like tying a napkin around their neck and then pulling out a fork and a knife so as to like develop their tweet somebody did point out by the way that if leo dicaprio keeps dating people who are so significantly younger than him they are so young they will be so young that they missed his heartthrob era and they're just like texting their friend i'm i'm going on a date with the weird guy from the revenant lol which is kind of an interesting demographic approach to it like you know like I think, you know, Leo DiCaprio is like my age, he's like 46 or 47, and, you know, for a lot of women that are his age and my age, he will always be the guy from Titanic. But if you keep going lower with the numbers, he will at some point be the guy from The Revenant.

My problem is, and this is something that you should find shocking and the listeners should find shocking, is that I cannot, like, I was sitting here trying to think of a Leo reference other than Titanic, which I still haven't seen. And I guess at this point, most likely, probably won't. The ending's been spoiled for me. But, like, I get him confused. There's, like, three actors. They were all in the mobster movie that takes place in Boston, and it begins with an R, I want to say. Right? And, like, I get him and, like, for some reason, I get him and Matt Damon confused. Him, Matt Damon, and I believe there's one other person. Maybe Marky Mark or whatever he goes by now. Mark Wahlberg. Mark Wahlberg.

You do not want to call him Marky Mark He will He will climb onto a stool And then punch you Right in your arm

That guy's kind of a garbage pal He doesn't seem great But anyway, for some reason Maybe it's because they were all in that movie that begins with R together I'm just laughing because I can't think of the name of the movie I shouldn't get these guys confused Yeah, Jack Nicholson is in it I call him Marky Mark I'm not ready I don't I think I've proven myself not ready to have this conversation but like that is like a good example of my face blindness like I just get I don't know why I oh he was in that um of course the wolf of wall street was a huge one that I saw which I didn't care for that much it doesn't seem

like your kind of movie it was martin scorsese right oh that's right I forgot and I think jonah hill is pretty great in it but it didn't it's it's sort of celebrating a kind of bro culture that i don't feel like really speaks to you because you know i mean he's just kind of like this coked up junk bond person who's just kind of excessive in every possible way and i don't he's not very like he's not really rootable as a as a main character in the movie yeah

forgetting something which is you know which is interesting because i like the idea of anti-heroes right like i don't think that every story should be like down the line this is the hero and this the antagonist you know like anti-heroes are important but there's also this sort of there's a type of anti-hero departed yeah like i said it starts with an r it's a silent r it's or departed um i oh sorry everybody but you know and i think i've seen memes about this too so i'm not breaking any new ground here but there is a certain kind of anti-hero in modern pop culture or even modern going back to the 70s where it's kind of like it becomes such an icon that people sort of forget that it's not somebody to root for you know i mean like the wolf of wall street guy is a good example of that um what's his name from taxi driver uh oh yeah travis bickle um people sort of like the wrong kind of people celebrate those people you know walter white you know like what are your takeaways from these things and there's a like i don't think that movie is supposed to be making his character like someone we're supposed to root for but you also know that scorsese plays in that space sort of where um there is something very like small a attractive uh about him and his character and you do sort of find yourself and certain people sort of find themselves rooting for these anti-heroes and i think the message sort of gets lost a little bit and maybe that's

what doesn't sit right with me see leo dicaprio has been very much on my radar because he was on the tv show growing pains oh yeah as a youngster like i think that was that point where that show was on its last like they were just trying to limp it into more syndication and they sort of classically did that thing where they brought on a cute new character but his character was named luke ah and he was roughly i mean he is my age he's maybe a few months older than me but he was basically my age like a much cuter version of me of what i aspired to be but he kind of parted his hair in the middle the way i did at that time he sort of wore flannel shirts he was like he was very i was i he was the aspirational version of the like 15 year old me yeah i saw him on growing pains and the fact that they gave his character the same name that i have i was like who's this who's this luke fellow and then he was in what's eating gilbert grape which i saw in the theater And just thought was a great movie I don't know if that holds up or not I haven't gone back and watched it

But I mean I want to see that That's a movie Luke I'm not even joking Like Titanic I have no interest in seeing Like whatever But What's Eating Gilbert Grape I've been saying for 25 years Oh I gotta watch that You have not seen it No I don't know why I haven't I don't like you said I don't know if it holds up I never saw it originally But there was definitely a time Where that seemed very much like a movie That would be up my alley Now the reason

the reason that i think it might not hold up well one it stars johnny depp

so that's right away electric guitar in the desert i believe

what's gilbert grape doing with that electric guitar

was the backup power that's what i want to know how's it being amplified so i mean you got you

have to i don't think it'd be possible for you to like rinse your brain enough back to like a neutral state with the movie because a it involves johnny depp who at the time of course we didn't know was the problematic guy that he is it involves john leo dicaprio playing a developmentally disabled person and it's johnny depp and leo dicaprio are brothers and their mother is very very very morbidly obese like has mobility issues and is a person who's like her weight is is very much a kind of a medical situation so between those three things I would be shocked if if that movie hits all the right notes as far as like how we talk about that kind of stuff in 2022 yeah not

that any of those things aren't things that you could address in movies but like how would you cast that these days how would you direct that these days and again i haven't seen the original so i'm not making a judgment but you're right in that i'm gonna say that that was kind of mid 90s mid to late 90s maybe that was when i was starting to think of myself as a uh cinephile

right like that was when i was starting to be like my thing is i like to watch movies that are in playing at the art theater you know as opposed to like i'm not going to try to think what i like a mid 90s blockbuster would be like I'm not going to see Die Hard 5 I'm going to see What's Eating

Gilbert Grape you need to see a blue screen that says Sony Pictures Classic or it's not for you

exactly now it's A24 right yeah yeah that's my new Sony Pictures Classic but yeah or for a while

it was Miramax yeah that's right again yeah also problematic but wait actually the Weinstein's had a different one that wasn't they had miramax but then they had another subset that was um even more so what we're talking about oh really yeah i'll figure it out no or i yeah so i but i uh yeah so

i was like between the growing pain situation and then like the first movie he's in that i knew about was what's eating gilbert grape he was also in the basketball diaries which is uh the based on like the jim carroll yeah uh kind of books or book i should say yeah um which was like he just some kind of artsy i this is my like claim to fame andrew i've never seen titanic yeah neither have i yeah um and uh so that was like funny the funny thing was like his biggest breakout role that everybody was obsessed with was the one thing that i never actually saw of his but again i actually uh i i like leo dicaprio in movies i find him to be pretty charming catch me if you can i thought was a fun was a fun romp or chase me all the way as i once called it um and genevieve knew what i

was talking about that was one of those relationship moments um uh then some Genevieve tweeted that I accidentally called it that and our friend Ben Parsons replied oh he's gonna love jingle if you can um it's just like I think about that all the time because like that is the I feel like it's like the perfect joke that like you kind of know the seeds of that joke but it doesn't line up perfectly but like that was like yeah that guy's hilarious um it's driving me crazy what Maybe I'm just thinking of Miramax. I thought that Miramax had another imprint that was Sony Pictures Classic, only Miramax's version of that. I'm blanking on what it was called.

They probably did. I mean, they had a lot going on there for a minute. I've also never seen Shakespeare in Love, which I feel like I should go back and watch because that was like, you know, Gwyneth Paltrow, I believe, won an Oscar for that. That had the other Fine in it. Not Rafe, but the other one. Oh, I don't remember. See, I did see that.

Joseph Fine, I believe, was in that. I forget that there are two Fines.

Yeah.

I wonder how Joseph Fine is doing. Yeah. All right. I have wasted enough time defending Leo DiCaprio for one episode, so we should probably take a break. But when we come back, I want to talk about the story that you sent me, Andrew. I feel like for some reason, this is going to be one of those episodes where I'm just taking the unpopular opinion. Like, I'm really opening myself up for some, I think, probably accurately placed emails from the listeners saying, really, dude? Like, really, you're defending Leo DiCaprio and tax scofflaws in France over their swimming pools? But yes, the answer is I'm going to do that. That's where we're going. Coming back right after this with that here on TBTL. Hey, let's thank some donors of the day who are making the program possible. I'm thinking about starting to call it a program. Ooh, I like that. Doesn't that sound a little bit more kind of legit?

Walter Brimley-ish. Who's Walter Brimley? Wait, Walter Brimley? Am I saying that name wrong? Oh my God, what is happening to me? No, Walter Brimley. Who's Walter Brimley? Isn't he the guy who says diabetes? Wait. Oh, Wilford Brimley? Wilford Brimley. As I was saying. Oh, he does say program. He does say program. It seems like he would say program.

Yeah. I have to be older than Wilford Brimley was in Cocoon at this point, right?

Oh, yeah. Wasn't he? Hold on. He was 26? He only appears in movies where he can be 26 years old. Let's see. In Cocoon. It says, why does he look so old? Because this is always the thing that everybody holds up to. Like, I'm older than Paul Rudd is older than Alfred Brimley was in Cocoon. He was 50. Oh, okay. In Cocoon. He wasn't like 34 years. Oh, okay. To make Cocoon 2. Oh, yeah. Even Cocoonier. Is that a show title? I'm pitching that. Don't give anybody that. I'm writing a spec script. Don't anybody talk. But his brother, Walter Brimley, who is more famous.

He was 50 years, nine months, and three days. When Cocoon was, but I mean, I'm looking at a picture of this, dear God, don't let me look in four years. Don't let me look like they may, maybe they aged him up too. Maybe they like, you know, made him, he looks like he's about probably 80, 75 or 80 in this photo that I'm looking at of him from Cocoon. But anyway, the point is we have a lot of donors of the day to thank from the, again, Andrew, upper Midwest. This is, yesterday we were really, like, focusing heavily on the greater Minnesota and Wisconsin area, and we're not stopping today. Shanna Gratton-Demke is in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

Might be at the fair right now. Jealous.

I am going to the, I think later today, Becca and I are going to the Oregon State Fair.

Oh, today?

Yeah. Oh. I've got to clear my schedule. ride on that um you know thing that like whatever like sky chair that goes over the entire fairground and i have to say oh yeah i have to do a little bit of kind of mental work when i'm on that we went on it last year yeah to not catastrophize yeah in my mind because it's like i know this isn't gonna like break but if it did how screwed would we be kind of thing yeah yeah i mean that's

what i mean it's not even when i think about my fear of heights it's sometimes that it's sometimes picturing the worst but often it's not even quite thinking about the outcome it's just an irrational all gripping fear so you're going to do what i would do right you're just going to hold that pole in the middle of the gondola right yes as tight as you're trying to do which how does that

last year was anything how does that save anything not at all but i was earlier in my dating relationship with becca so i think i was trying to maintain some sense of cool so i was trying to just like casually put a death grip on the pole in the middle a casual death grip and then i was doing like also possibly a show yeah i'll write that down i was like analyzing like oh if we fell on this elephant ears stand would the

Plywood of the stand, break the fall of the chair that we're in. Right. Like in movies, like you're like, oh, good thing. Oh, he fell 14 stories. Thank goodness there was a dumpster down there. Yes, exactly.

I was doing that calculation the whole time. Emily Lind is in Mounds View, Minnesota. Hey, Emily. One of the best places to view that mound. I know. In the entire state of Minnesota. Yeah, they have a ladder. Mounds View. A lot of other towns don't have a ladder. They got one in Moundsview Where Emily is Thanks Emily Laura Hahn is in Kenoke Michigan Or is it It can't be Kenneke right Oh wow It's got to be Kenoke I would say it's got to be Kenoke Okie dokie Kenoke Isn't that on the bumper stickers I hope Thank you Laura Craig Parsons is in Hickory North Carolina I believe I've said this in past years i believe that might also be where carl castle was from r.i.p oh that sometimes they used to introduce him on wait wait as i think being from hickory north carolina the pride of hickory north

carolina pride of hickory north carolina i mean now craig is the pride of something are you the pride of like no because seattle is too that's the thing right you can't be the pride of seattle and you grew up right in proper like seattle zip code like i grew up in valley city i would say 9-8-1-2-2 is that your zip okay yeah it was 2-0-6-5-2-2-3-3-8-8 that was my phone number growing up I was I was 4-8-3-3-4-3-0 I don't remember what the oh was it have been 2-0-6 back then I don't know well not in Ohio or 2-1-6 rather Cleveland is 2-1-6 but I think we were like 4-4-0 or something I don't know they started if I want to go way back maybe I could be the pride of the lighthouse

ranch oh that would but that would also be somewhat triggering I think if you were on stage I'm probably the most famous person who was... I'm probably the most famous person that was born on that day in Eureka, California. Actually, I think I was technically born in Arcata,

California. Oh, okay. The Pride of Arcata. See, that sounds... The Pride of Arcata! Yeah, we got there. And we have

Craig Parsons to thank for it. Also, Sarah Danziger and Burton Cooley are in Lakeville, Minnesota. See? I told you. Promises made, promises kept, Andrew. I told you there was going to be a lot of minnesota in this uh round of donors and there is not a single lake in lakeville by the way that is some trivia for you but and zero mounds zero mounds and uh siren is in bluffton south carolina the pride south carolina yes and is the pride of bluffton south carolina so thank you so much to all of our donors today for keeping tbtl going we absolutely could not do this without you hello and welcome to top story uh you sent this article over to me actually yesterday andrew uh about french tax collectors who are using ai to spot thousands of undeclared pools Sacre bleu Is what I would say If they found my undeclared pool What does that mean I don't actually even know So they look at you kind of funny After you said it But that's an exclamation Like you've heard that right I mean it kind of rings a bell That's like Peace and love to our French listeners and also our French Canadian listeners But I feel like there was a cartoon That I watched as a kid where there was some French or French-Canadian character and their catchphrase was Sacrebleu! But anyway, this is an article from the New York Times written by Arlene Breeden. For those trying to offset France's increasingly sweltering summers by building swimming pools, the tax authorities have a message. If you're thinking of saving money by keeping your pool hidden from property tax collectors, we're watching from above. Over 20 000 unreported swimming pools have been detected since last october in a handful of french regions by an artificial intelligence tool that scans satellite images of houses and backyards the authorities announced this week now this is you want to hear my hot take on this story yeah they need ai for this i swear if you gave me a week i could figure out every swimming pool in

america using google satellite imagery yeah i mean i think i mean not to take the fun out of your hot take but i think that and they kind of talk about this in the article that some people are kind of like hey i don't want ai to take over and take over the jobs of other people but i think they

can just by the way the most french thing ever is the people who it's like because you know have you been to france no i've never been to everything is always on strike and Thank you. prints yeah because they have like and it's like you know they were using this ai and then they're like but we talked to the union of people who normally walk around looking for swimming pools and they're mad that this robot is taking their jobs that's like the most french response to this

ever my guess is that it was using ai you're just able to like go you know crunch the numbers and get your first initial reports much much quicker and then apparently they have humans then pour over it and make sure that make sure what they're seeing is actually not a blue tarp yeah now i don't know if it's too quick to get I told you Luke I sent you this story I'd almost hit send on it and then I didn't I'm like I don't know if there's much to talk about here or not and then I ended up sending it to you the only thing that sort of struck me and I thought it was well maybe not maybe not interesting that the New York Times didn't get into it because it's France and it's a different place and people's I don't know reactions to things are different but I was just I couldn't help make the the comparison to how people in the United States would react to this So, again, this isn't like, you know, I don't know if it's so much a permitting thing, but it's more of a, hey, if you have a pool in your backyard, that raises your property value. And therefore, we need to tax your property differently. And you're getting away with not paying your taxes by having a pool and not reporting it. And it just got me thinking, like you said, Luke, about Google Maps and how we can basically see in people's backyards now. I hadn't really given that a lot of thought. It's just part of life. But like it seems like something like this would like Americans would react, even though we all know our shits out on Google Maps. Like it is funny that you can't just build a fence anymore and assume that you have an expectation of privacy, you know, and that's kind of what struck me that there wasn't one person in this in this article that's like, we, we, I'm in France. This is my imitation of a French person. We, we, I'm in France and stop looking in my backyard, you knuckleheads, you know, and I sort of feel like you get more of that in the States.

and you know i i think i over the years have developed such an allergy to the kind of like you don't tread on me culture of this country like i just i i hate that so much except for in this case like i would be i would be kind of annoyed if i had a swimming pool and they used uh ai to figure out that i had a swimming pool and then wanted to tax me more even though i am a tax and spend liberal right maybe because of my love of swimming pools and

in this case it's not even the ai part right like even if they did have a team of people pouring over something akin to google maps it would still bother you it's this idea of of something happening on your property that people can peek at well i'm sorry well i was saying that you said that you would be put off if it was ai but i don't even think for you that the situation that you described it's not the ai aspect of it that would bother you it's anybody being nosy it's basically

like i want to be allowed to well first of all i am actually trying to put a shipping container swimming pool into this house that i'm remodeling although i don't know if that's going to be it's like you know there are so many hassles associated with that and costs and things but i think it's like i'm just imagining like all the cost and hassle of putting a swimming pool in your house digging a hole in the ground and filling it with water uh and then having the the government come and say you owe us more money because you wanted to have this hole in the ground full of water in your backyard like something about that would just rankle me even though i believe in you know taxing and again these are presumably these are also the people that are if you have the money to put a swimming pool in your uh your yard in france things are going okay like these are the people that we can be taxing if they were broke they wouldn't be putting a swimming pool in so this is why i said this is gonna be an unpopular take like i don't i don't know why i'm lining up to defend the like rich parisians who are illegally putting pools in their backyard but i am andrew that's my that's uh that's the stance that i'm

taking today yeah i am i you know yeah that that part of it doesn't bother me so much but it really does like for me i just kind of keep coming back around to like does this mean like just generally speaking of course we're talking about two different countries here and laws and norms are different but like i guess we just have to accept that like you know as like somebody who recently bought a house and the one of the first photos on the listing was an overhead shot of a house by the way that's a that's always a you must know this right luke that's a clear indication that they were probably hoping somebody would tear this house down that we bought like when oh i didn't know i think our i don't want to misquote her because she listens to the show But our realtor, Sarah, mentioned, like, usually if the very first photo, and I don't know if the very first photo of our house was the overhead shot or if it was the second or third. But usually if the very first shot on the listing is an overhead shot, it means that they're emphasizing the lot. They're showing you basically the lot. Exactly, yeah.

That's weird, though, because, A, your house is lovely. I'm going to give you a compliment, and then I'm going to follow it up with an insult.

ready yeah but then you have to follow up with another compliment though so do you need a second to get that one ready i do actually yeah just think about my body you feel free to compliment

my body if you want okay no um first of all your house is lovely like it doesn't strike me in any way as a teardown and also i your neighborhood is is actually pretty nice too but it doesn't seem like the kind of place like if it was bellevue like i could see them being like okay every lot is so precious here that like unless the house is already a four million dollar house it's not even worth like it doesn't seem your neighborhood doesn't strike me as the neighborhood where people would just be tearing houses down and building mega houses in their place it's not

gonna be mega houses it's like small lot apartments that are not super high rent like there you i mean i was gonna say you'd be surprised maybe not like there's one that is just reaching completion which is not a good way of putting that like on the on the corner of our street there's one lot that's been for sale for a long time that actually has plans attached to it for it to be redeveloped and you're on a corner too and we're on a corner and it's like you could definitely see them putting some sort of like and that's the thing i don't want to i actually don't want to get into this because i'm not that well versed on it but like we went to the block party you know there's like kind of that national block party day in the in the summertime was a few weeks ago and And so we went to our little neighborhood get together and met some really nice neighbors and everybody's very welcoming. And the first thing a lot of people will say was, like, I'm so glad you bought that house because I really didn't want them to develop it. And it's like I always kind of struggle with that because, like, I mean, we desperately need housing and certainly affordable housing in the city. Like the housing crisis here is leading to all kinds of other issues, including including like the fact that people one of the reasons restaurants are closing around here. Sorry, my mind is on something else. I'll just complete my thought. But like the reason some of these restaurants around us are closing because people can't find cooks and other people to work the service industry is because you can't afford to work in the service industry and live in Seattle at this time. Right. Like that's it's just like the housing crisis is causing so many ripple effects in our communities. And I'm so for more dense housing. Yet I also love my house. And so when somebody says, like, hey, I'm so glad you bought that because and it's just always the they're always the stereotypical people who are just like, oh, yeah, like they're they're always keeping their eyes on all the other lots and hoping that, you know, and sending emails on this list serve that I accidentally ended up in and saying, I think they're going to develop this lot. Oh, no. And I'm like, I don't want to throw my lot in with you guys. Like, I'm actually pro them. You're such a self-hating homeowner. I'm not a self-hating homeowner, but I do. I think actively and I'm not ashamed to admit this or shy to admit this, that like now that we do own a home, I don't want my values to go away. Like the things that that I believe, I still believe I do not want to become your home value to go away. You mean your personal my personal values. And so, like, I think about that. If somebody did and the house next hours is a nice house, it's nicer than ours. So it's not going to be torn down. But I've really honestly done soul searching. Like if somebody said that is for sale and it looks like they're going to develop it. Like, I think I would if I was being totally honest, I'd be like, wow, that's going to change my that's going to change my life somewhat. First of all, with the one year construction project next door and the hole in the ground before they build something and then the parking implications and this and this, like I would have to acknowledge that that is going to affect my life potentially in some negative ways personally.

But I still think I would never rally against it or rally against any kind of density in my neighborhood. And so like when people are a Yimby, yes, in my backyard, you know, like that was I don't know.

I think that Chris, our friend Chris Hayes did a podcast about the movement. Oh, I thought you were just saying that. No, that's a real thing. And there are people who are like you. They, you know, they own homes or at least it's not even necessarily always about homeownership, but they live in neighborhoods and they're trying to be the people who are not NIMBYs and not like trying to, you know, quash any kind of urban density or services for people who are marginalized in one way or another. You know, all the things that everyone is a fan of until they want to put it in like your neighborhood.

Yeah. I mean, parking is a good example for this because we were just talking yesterday and on every other episode I've ever been on on the show about like, you know, my pettiness about like having to find a parking spot on the street when things are tight in your own neighborhood. That's not something I deal with here now. But like when I was living in Roosevelt, like that was a real thing. Like one of these more dense units went up that had, I don't know, maybe there was like a building that had, I don't know, maybe 30 units or something went up about two blocks from where we used to live and parking during construction and then after construction. changed significantly for the one or two months that vives and i were still there when this place was open and as i'm driving around looking for a parking spot and being somewhat frustrated i am also saying yes but this is what you've been promoting for a long time like honestly providing sometimes more parking spots with a development project isn't necessarily a good thing if we want to encourage people to have fewer cars and take the train and right now i live you know at that point like four blocks away from a train station and so it literally did change my habits because instead of getting in my car and quickly going down to the U District just to grab a gyro or something it actually made more sense for me not to move my car out of its existing parking spot on the street that I was lucky to find and instead get on the train go to the U District eat my gyro and come back it takes a little bit more time but that's what a working community looks like when we de-emphasize cars and i am for that and so there are times when you have to look at the frustration in front of you right now but saying but yeah but this is the stuff that i advocate for and i need

to live that as well you're a better person than me and i know that's not your point but it's like it's just because i i think i support all of those things in theory until they in any way inconvenience me then like then i'm just like what the heck is going on here so i give you credit i give you credit for like you know because for most of us uh in america and this is a larger conversation about uh wealth and uh sort of the the idea of home ownership and all these things most of us our greatest asset in our life our largest asset is the home if we happen to own a home that's where we have all of our money somebody once said to me we live in our wealth And so people are very, very, I think, understandably to a degree, very sensitive about something that seems like it could be threatening the place, the financial instrument that is where all your money is, you know. And it doesn't mean that it's okay for people to be NIMBYs, but I understand why it happens. And I'm probably, you know, I'm probably that way a little bit like I mentioned this on the show a while ago, but like the this house that I that I bought that I'm that I'm working on. I didn't even realize this, but like they were going to put a methane capture plant down on the river, down the hill from me, like a two billion dollar methane processing plant. And I didn't even know this was in the offing. And then, like, the day after I, like, officially, like, signed all the papers to the point where, like, you cannot get out of this deal, I heard on OPB that they had scotched that plan. Now, that's not a very sympathetic problem. They heard you were moving in. They're like, nope, property value is going down. They're like, he's going to produce enough methane on his own. And we do not want to try to capture it. But, like, but it was, like, I guess that's sort of a bad example because I don't think there's anybody who thinks that, like, methane capture. facility on a river that's going to heat the water up and hurt the spawning fish and everything like nobody's rooting for that that's different than say like a facility for people who are experiencing homelessness or or or a uh you know a dense kind of apartment complex that will allow more people

to live affordably or by the way can i jump in here maybe because i was thinking about that too when you mentioned that there was some sort of a processing plant that was scheduled to be there and then it got it got scratched i this really illustrates my ignorance i kind of in the moment didn't know if this was some sort of plant that was working towards good environmental ends or bad i mean i guess you say methane processing and i guess it was right there for me but i guess i just wasn't paying enough attention and somebody wrote in and said yeah you know i work with a

yeah that's what i was gonna say one of our listeners was saved my bacon right but i was

thinking like maybe a better example luke would have been like what if you had found out that they were you bought this property but somebody was building a plant there that like processed like seaweed for like some sort of a more of a green or algae i should say rather for like sort of a green energy uh emphasis that is actually good for the world but would have hurt both your view and potentially your property value that's where it would have been maybe more of a that would have been yeah that would you know right and i would have been deeply opposed yeah or if

They were like, we're going to build, we're going to take that property next to you and we're going to actually build a facility for for folks who are, you know, experiencing homelessness. And this is going to be like a big shelter of some kind or whatever. And it's going to mean a lot of folks coming and going and a lot of folks who are waiting to get in, you know, and stuff. That would be a real challenge for me because we need more, particularly in Portland, we need more affordable housing and we need more beds for people who are unhoused. And yet I would really – I would struggle to have that right next to me because of my own selfishness. mm-hmm when we moved in here i was telling vives too because we had these conversations before we even um you know moved in but like we are now in a position where if somebody had an rv there's room outside of our house for them to park there and live there for weeks or months on end right and like when i walk in other parts of um town and i see you know a place where several rvs that people are living in have parked and garbage is starting to accumulate or whatever but then somebody spray paints on it and vandalizes their rv and it says tow me you know it's like i don't know if you've seen that around but like local homeowners will like tag these rvs like tow me um and i just think that that's awful that's an awful reaction to that situation but i i really did do like i don't know soul searching is the wrong term there um but you know i walked myself through the scenario you know like what if i did have somebody and would i be able to extend as much grace as i believe i should extend in that situation and would i become part of that person's life even that's what this fantasy went on for quite some time but for real like would i be checking in would i be saying do you need anything would i be that kind of a neighbor or would i be the person who would be like you know calling the fix it find it app you know and i you know i really think i wouldn't i really think i wouldn't i think i would try to be the person that i want to be but i'm not saying that to try to paint myself as some hero i'm saying that i understand it i understand how you can read about these situations in the seattle times or what have you and say well i'm on the side of density, and I'm on the side of being compassionate towards our unhoused neighbors, right? But then sometimes when you are somebody who it's intersecting with your life directly and daily, I understand why that can look different and feel different.

Yeah, you know, when I'm in Seattle, I always, I try to, anyway, jog around Green Lake, because I just love it there. I grew up going to Green Lake. And, you know, there was this section, this stretch that had a lot of people that were living in RVs in various states of kind of functionality. And, you know, I will admit that jogging through that area when there were all of those folks camping and in RVs and like, you know, the RVs are often, you know, whatever the bathroom situation is in the RV is, you know, clearly it's not being, you know, pumped out the way probably it could be. So there's a, you know, a smell, et cetera. Like I was jogging through there thinking boy this was really different than when i you know was a kid growing up and riding my bike around here uh i don't blame the people that are in those rvs i don't think they're like you know my dream is is to live in an in a non-function like a non-running rv that i got towed to near green lake you know but it i have to say like i was my some part of my mind was like it would be nice if all these things weren't here broken down you know um but again it's it's it's complicated because you know and portland i mean there's just we have a lot a lot a lot of encampments and we when i'm jogging past that or walking past it and it you know it's part of me kind of recoils a little bit because it's hard to see but then you have to remind yourself that like nobody's in that tent because they were like that seems fun for us you know like that's i mean i'm making a very obvious point but you know what i was getting really

quickly here take it to the media i don't maybe you'll be the only person who appreciates this but um a conservative talk show host who you and i used to actually work with uh david and i'm sorry um uh jason and tebby who goes by jason rants on the radio and he's like you know on the conservative am station here and like i say i know him personally um and and we get along but like it's one of those things where i hear him on the radio i just think you're doing so much harm to society by just like spewing first of all in a lot of cases kind of misinformation and um and just he's just everything that you would expect a local super super conservative talk show host to be and i have this um i'm gonna get into some detail here so you know that i'm an am radio listener luke i'm usually on 7 10 a.m but i also like to get to kick see a.m which is at like 8 80 right I've seen the window clean I had to think about that for a second and 850 is the relatively new black information network which I also like although the reception isn't great but then in between those two are 770 the truth where people like Jason Rams broadcast from and usually I can just push the buttons on my screen but if I'm using my mapping software I have to actually scroll through those stations using the button on my steering wheel if that makes sense and i sometimes accidentally land on 770 the the truth and like i'm always like oh skip past it it's just gonna make me angry because sometimes you hear some just like astoundingly hateful shit on there and it and hey i'm a snowflake i'll be the first one to admit it i hear that and it just it upsets me deeply but i land on rance the other day or in tebby and um i hear him talking about homelessness i'm like no no no no don't do it walsh don't do it don't do it Don't stay here.

But I'm just, like, listening, and I don't even know exactly what the issue is. It turns out it's about, like, the county, I think, considering dedicating some space where RVs are open to come and park and people can live there for a while. I didn't know that at the time. All I hear him is he's talking basically something on this issue, and I'm like, all right, I'll give it two seconds. And then he's talking, but here's the deal, Luke. Did you also have a bruise somewhere that you just started poking on your own body? Yes. So I zipped up my hair shirt. But, you know, you know what the funny thing is, and I have to admit this. I actually agreed with what he was saying. Now, I think that in the broad context of his work and what he does, he wouldn't actually back this up. But I'm listening to him. And what he's saying is, and I don't know exactly what he's talking about here, but what he's saying is, is this is not addressing the fundamental issues of homelessness in our community and not all of it. But a lot of it does have to do with mental health. A lot of it does have to do with drug addiction, which is a disease. And even if you approach somebody who is struggling with those things or just the cycle of poverty, too, I would throw in there, too. But if you approach somebody who is dealing with these things and you say, hey, we have some better options for you, those people may not be in the right mind to accept those services. And therefore, like we need to, as a society, not just keep on putting Band-Aids on this or push people around, but we need to fundamentally address the underlying issues. Now, the thing is, I'm sure that any time somebody proposes legislation that would go towards that, I'm sure he would probably rail against it for some sort of reason, financial or otherwise. So that's the broader context. But the thing is, I'm sitting there listening to him for like four minutes. I'm just like, shit, I agree with all that shit. And then he's like, and that's why we shouldn't build this lot or allow people to park on this lot. And honestly, I don't know anything about that particular micro issue, so I won't weigh in on it, although I tend to extend, you know, the benefit of the doubt in those situations. But, like, I was like, oh, yeah, me and Jason Rance, we both believe you have to address the underlying issues.

Well, you know, something that I've noticed, and this is something you've said to me before on the subject of homelessness. I heard it on some other show talking about places like, I think it's like West Virginia, and I want to say maybe it's Mississippi, are both places where there is a lot of poverty and there's also very low levels of homelessness. And it's because housing is affordable. like the three places that have the i believe right now um although it sure seemed like california would be on this list but i had heard that the three uh states with the highest incidence of homelessness like basically per capita are hawaii washington and oregon and those are all places where it's very expensive to live again you'd think i mean san francisco's got to be as a city but but it also completely supports this like it's so expensive to live in san francisco i remember long before encampments were normal in a place like seattle or portland you'd go to san francisco and you would look around and you'd be like huh this is a different look and what's the through line expensive housing and the place where i'm working on this house that i bought it's a pretty economically depressed area and what i noticed the other day i was going on a jog on this um path by this river out there and it was all area that if it were in portland would have encampments no encampments anywhere uh and i think it's because housing is very i mean they have fewer services for one thing yeah so you know if you needed help you'd probably go to portland because there'd be more services but beyond that it's also a way cheaper place to live than portland and i think that there is that there is that is a measurable effect like you can go to a place like west virginia where the average income is pretty low compared to a place like say california or whatever and yet you'll have much less homelessness because people can actually afford to live in some sort of a dwelling well all of that is to say if they try to tax my future pickleball

court Luke I will I love that you're coming around on this I just had to end the segment

there's a right way to rock in a wrong way to roll you can't just listen to your soul just remember that life is number one You can be having so much fun Just remember that life is much fun You can be number one

Are you ready for this many Blur's Days, Luke? Are you mentally and emotionally prepared?

I'm trying to get there.

Okay. Let me know. I'm looking at the list. That it is, there's a lot, there's a lot on here Yeah, of course we were on tape the last two weeks So we were not able to do Blursdays I'm hoping that these folks who sent these in Were kind of aware of that And they didn't think we were just snub

them over the past couple of weeks, but let's start here with Richard, who wrote in to say my lovely English bride Juliet's birthday was just before the Summer Games. She's a Jane Austen scholar. Whoa, we're not worthy. A frequent Dickens boffin. I don't even know what boffin means. And a full-time stationery. Can we say Dickens boffin on this family-friendly radio show? I'll beep it. I'll beep it at both. And a full-time stationery aficionado. No, it makes some certain cosmic sense that we were born on consecutive days because she is my sun and moon. I couldn't be more content than to follow her wake across the sea of stars. My God, I'm in love with you now, Richard. Jeez Louise. Happy Blurship to you both. Really putting a lot of pressure on the rest of us. Yeah, it really is. Man, shouldn't have led with that one. Yeah, no. We should have deleted that entire message, honestly. You know, I misread that. Hold on. Richard says Happy Blur's Day Juliet You're okay Hey you're alright

That's what April and Main said I want to send a Blur's Day message To my co-10 James Hey he's alright I just said like we turned Richard and April Into the Fonz somehow I know Richard like hip checked a soda machine To get his Pepsi out of there April and Main actually says I want to send a Blur's Day message To my co-10 James whose birthday is on the 21st. He is the best partner, cat dad and kid dad. Interesting, cat dad was first. Have you checked on the children, April? Do you know what's going on with the children? I'm so lucky I get to call him my longest running co-bro. Happy Blur's Day, Squeezy. Cute.

Oh, my gosh. I'm sort of picturing James as a large cat who's also a dad. Is that what cat dad means? But he's also got like one of those beanies on with a propeller on it because he's also a kid dad. Uh-huh. Rachel says, Jordan, I remember the Blur's Day thing this year. I remembered the Blur's Day thing this year. I forking love you and can't wait to become your wife. Oh, my gosh. Happy birthday. Gosh, I hope they're engaged. Love is in the air. Certainly.

I hope they know each other. I know.

Me too.

that's a forward move from old rage Emily says I would like to wish the happiest of blurs days to my husband my best friend my rotten soldier my sweet cheese my good time boy James I love you the most and I'm inviting the skunks in for birthday cake tomorrow oh no so many questions

do you think the skunks are actual skunks or do you think that is a name for a group of friends of theirs. I hope they're actual skunks.

Yeah. And if they are, Emily, will you please send us photos? I've got a whole thing for skunks, you know, because like, I've seen some people have skunks as pets on TikTok. And now here's the thing. To make a skunk your pet, you've got to have a surgery done where they remove their like stink gland. Yeah. Which feels kind of gross to me like why are we going to modify this animal's body so that it can like but on the other hand if you're a skunk i think like being a human pet is probably a pretty sweet deal versus having to be out there scurrying for every acorn or whatever like if a skunk had the vote i feel like they being a pet that was fed and warm and loved is probably a better life right than

being out in the wild yeah i guess they'd probably be more eating garbage than acorns i would think And also, if somebody offered to remove my stink gland, I might take him up on it. I know Genevieve certainly would be pushing me to the front of the line. See previous methane comments from me. Is this, would you say Marie or Mary? Probably Marie, right? Marie and Emmanuel. Or Mari. Or Mari. I'm sorry, we'll go with Mari. Mari and Emmanuel say happy belated Blur's Day to Marshall. Marsh, we're so proud of you for moving across the globe to Amsterdam. Oh, this Marshall. And living the dream Euro life.

I think this Marshall, like, emailed or called or somehow was weighing, was running this thing by us that Marshall was going to be moving to Amsterdam. Remember that?

I hope it's going well. I don't, I'm afraid to say I don't remember that specifically. But, Maureen Emanuel continued to say, I hope you celebrate by making time to eat Gouda, bike around, and engage in other traditional Dutch activities. Love and miss you in San Francisco.

you're doing well out there Marshall Lydia says I'm the worst daughter ever we were all thinking it Lydia and I think it's actually a step in the right direction that you're ready to admit it the worst daughter ever and I forgot to submit a blurs

message for my amazing mother Corinne. Oh, this is that Lydia and that Corinne. Got it, with the cookies. Well, not the worst daughter. I am the daughter who listens to TBTL, but still, do you actually even have a birthday if you don't get blursed? If nothing else, this belated message gives mom permission to continue celebrating for the rest of the month. Love you, mama. Cute.

Fun fact about Lydia. Also doesn't like cheese and mayonnaise. Corinne is the I'm getting a hot air balloon. Yeah, that's right. Lady, right? Look at this. Pizza Lloyd says. Hey, Lloyd. We went from Baker Lydia to Pizza Lloyd, who says, Listener, Summer in Issaquah is the only 10 I know IRL. Hey, Lloyd! I know her through work. She was a buyer, and I was a seller, and I heard her name as a donor of the day, and we've been buddies ever since. She's awesome, and I'm so glad to know her. Happy birthday, Summer.

That makes me think, does Summer also work in the pizza industry?

Or certainly the food industry in Summer.

Because I believe Lloyd works for a pepperoni concern. Right, yeah. Or used to. Because I met Lloyd at that pizza conference in Vegas.

So Summer's buying up pepperoni. What are you doing with all that pepperoni, Summer? Yeah.

Don't bogart that pepperoni, Summer. But also happy birthday. Yes, definitely. Julie and Dylan say happy Blur's Day. adrianne you are a 10 both in the tbtl way and just as a person thanks for gifting us cash for our early blurs day that cash really helped get us out of a couple of jams nice you're a good sister and friend and we love you gosh i just like maybe it's because we had a couple of weeks away from these blurs day messages and really and because i don't ever go on the facebook page or the slack but these are some very good people that listen to this show i don't know what they're doing i don't know what led them what led them to this but i'm happy they're here these are these

are awesome folks i agree including candy in chicago who once gave me a hot dog pin by the way candy says happiest of blurs days to carolyn here is to another year of making you reenact

your stories happy birthday another dylan dylan in portland says happy blurs day to my 10 of a wife in more than one way. Julie, what she does is so important, teaching young people how to dance and express themselves. Love you, sweetie. That was Dylan saying that. That would be probably

over the line. Probably. But I do love you, Julie. In spot time, I told you that. Kate says, please wish my husband Rob from Philly a happy birthday. We both enjoy listening to our imaginary friends and making each other laugh by repeating TBTL drops. I'm looking forward to the Phillies game and making brisket to celebrate. It's your birthday. Rock your body. Uh-huh.

P. Fletch. P. Fletch. Our friend P. Fletch, Phyllis Fletcher P. Fletch, says, Happy Blur's Day to Ivan in San Francisco when we met at age 10. I bet you couldn't have guessed that in 40 years you'd be a rad architect and world traveler with a great wife and kids. I could not have guessed that we'd be fans of an imaginary radio show hosted by a fellow junior husky and his there's nothing junior about my huskiness these days I'll tell you that and his friend from Valley City, Ohio I think it's Valley Central, Ohio Happy 50th Ivan Ivan a Washington middle school

alum as well like me and P. Fletch Also got one from Andrea here that says please pass on to Luke Contact a trailer or a utility trailer manufacturer or mobile RV tech. They may be able to jack up your boat and replace the axle in the driveway. Best of luck, Andrea. How'd that get in there? Thank you, Andrea.

I've heard that feedback from a couple of people. Everyone has said, don't go with the guy who's going to charge me all that money and then maybe just keep my boat at his lot forever and charge me storage. So I think we're off of that plan.

Yeah, definitely. But you gave him the 75 for looking at the bow, right? No. Oh, you didn't? No. God, no. Okay. Are you kidding me? He's probably got a boat in his backyard, or a pool in his backyard. I'm burning my fingerprints off as we speak. He'll never find me. Actually, I slipped that one in there because I just happened to see it in my email, and I was checking new Blursdays. But it looks like we have one left here, Luke, if you want to close us out.

Sure. Rachel says, to my James, happy 40th. Joseph, Sam and I love you to pieces It's going to be a great year We can't wait to celebrate with you This weekend, love Rachel

Hey, you know what? This is a compliment to us after that Finally We get some love here We still had Two more minutes left on that music That was the longest Blur's Days we've ever done And we didn't run out of music Which means

Thank you.

you and i were very disciplined luke we we let we let the light stay on the listeners yes that's right we did not go on any extreme tangents or bird walks and also i know you've got to get out of here you've got yeah uh you've got a hard out i'll uh yeah i guess i'll mention i'm gonna be on

that um kow podcast seattle nice now tomorrow i i'm gonna confess something here that is pretty damn rude and i'm not you know i'm not proud of this but i uh i often think so this is the kow the local public radio station they have a podcast hosted by our friend trish um but genie's hosting today but uh anyway um i'm gonna be on i guess tomorrow's tomorrow's show which we're airing or which we're taping this afternoon but it's called seattle now but i always think it's called seattle today i'm not exactly sure why and the past couple of times so we do the conversation but i record my end here and i send the tape in and i realized last time i don't know if i've done this more than once but the last time i sent the tape and i labeled it seattle today and i sent it to the

producers and i felt kind of bad about that do you are they all remote anyway like as in are they in this could you go into the studio if you wanted to that's a good question i i'll bet you for

convenience i just miss that i miss going to radio stations and i wonder if i'd be better or worse if I did it I almost feel like I would be better I told you like I've done this several times before they've edited them together pretty well so I sound good and I'm not just saying this but I they have every time I've done this I have spent like the two weeks afterwards just like reliving it in my head and thinking of all the stupid things I said or didn't say and I'm really trying to not put myself in that position today I'm just going to try to be a cool dude which is something that I'm you know kind of famously known for I'm famously known for, but I'm really going to try to keep my nerves in check. I don't know why I'm nervous doing stuff like this. I do a podcast with you almost every day of the week. But, yeah, I do wonder if I was doing it in person, if that would make me more relaxed or less relaxed. I'm not exactly sure. But, yeah, it's like a Zoom setup, and we all record ourselves on our ends. It probably makes most sense. Like if you and I had a guest on the show, wouldn't it be like more expedient just to have them on by phone or remote than to say, hey, you're coming here. OK, now I have to like get you a cup of coffee and make sure that you're settled.

Yeah, no, it 100 percent makes sense. I'm sure this is the case with Livewire. Like we've, you know, really expanded the list of folks we can have on because, you know, we do some live shows, but we also do a lot of Zoom recordings. and it's definitely like easier for everybody involved but i'm just thinking like i i just kind of miss that going sitting down in a chair yeah talking into a mic at a radio station like will i ever do that again andrew will that ever i mean again there's no reason for it anymore with the technology we now have but i i do think fondly back on those days yeah me too most

definitely yeah now that i've been fired from cairo radio will i ever see those days again

maybe not if you keep shit talking and tebby i don't think so that's right i probably won't be i'm free all right i freed myself i can i can say whatever i want about those boneheads um all right well listen that's gonna do it for today's episode golly is it friday tomorrow it is

i don't know what's happening tomorrow's friday and it's already september i i don't know what

to tell you today september 1st are the mariners winning six nothing did i win my julio rodriguez his home run bet, did Kasali almost hit a home run, which would have really put me in the black on my sports bet.

Dude, you didn't remind me. That game started before the show, and I totally forgot about it. And you've been watching it, and you didn't even remind me that it's happening.

No, I don't think you're capable. You got Hex Empire going. I do not have Hex Empire going. You got baseball going. You were texting. You have a lot going on, Andrew.

I was doing any of those things, and I can handle two.

It's only the fifth inning, so you get the rest. You've still got five innings you can watch while you're recording Seattle today. Yeah, exactly. No, it's probably best that I wasn't watching that. All right, thank you, everyone. We'll see you tomorrow. Until then, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourselves. Go Mariners. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

the more attention you pay to these things and the more diligent you are the faster you'll get better and the better you'll feel see if i'm not right thanks for your time have a good day power out