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Before we say goodnight, I just want to take a moment to address any perceptions out there regarding bias in my reporting. In divided times such as these, I'm reminded of one of my great heroes, Walter Cronkite. Because of him, I have the integrity to stay firmly impartial. He gave me a gift I can never repay, a $25 gift card to coconuts. If only I had used it before all their locations closed. TBTL!

I've seen it coming for years. I've worried about it. I hoped with all my heart I wouldn't experience it. I wouldn't see it. But it's now here.

What's even the point in this freaking podcast? It doesn't even make sense. Why would anybody listen to it?

I yell at you because I love you. You listen to me because you love me. Is this a weird dynamic? Yeah, sure, from the outside.

You know what, dude? We can make a lot of money on this. If you're making these out of thin air, I mean, there's no overhead.

we're gonna be rich oh my god 100 a day both of us 500 a week that's rich

all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a thursday edition of tbtl hello everybody the show that just might be too beautiful to live this is going to be extremely explicit

my name is luke burbank i am your host so if you don't like swearing um or angry people from wisconsin then turn your mother effing camera off now coming to you from the hollywood

broadcast center right here in portland oregon where i am recovering from a cat related injury i sometimes will do a thing before the show when the cat wanders in here where i pick her up and I play her stomach like a guitar or banjo, some kind of stringed instrument. And usually it goes pretty well for both of us, except today she decided to just sink one of her talons deeply into my temple.

That really hurts!

I keep checking it for bleeding. It seems to be okay. We seem to be cleared, and medically cleared, that is. I'm on the physically able, I'm on the PAP list, physically able to perform. I guess they leave the T out of the PUP list. Never really thought of that, because it's a physically unable to perform, but it's not the PUP list. Anyway, we're ready to do episode 3787 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. And we're going to talk about Twitter a little bit.

I know what you guys are thinking. Hey, it's the guy from Twitter.

Because Elon Musk is in the midst of trying to buy it, but also they're still going forward with the court case of Twitter suing him to force him to buy it. I don't know. It's a kind of a mess and we'll muddle through it together coming up. Also, they're going to go back to shooting that movie Rust that Alec Baldwin was starring in and producing where very sadly somebody died during an onset accident. and they are going to film it, I guess, film the rest of it. So we'll talk about that. Plus, it's a Thursday, a.k.a. a Blur's Day.

It's my birthday today.

And I hear we have a whole, just a passel of Blur's Days to celebrate today. I was going to say to get through, but that makes it sound like it's work. And you know, this isn't work, my friends. Find a Blur's Day you love and you'll never work a day in your life. So we're going to celebrate the Blur's Days today with this guy, The longest-running co-bro of the show may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships.

There he is! There he is! Yes! Oh, yes!

He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Hello, my friend. Good morning, Luke. Here's an email that just came in. Subject line. Coyotes. A neighbor named Richard, who I don't believe I know, sent an email to the neighborhood list serve that says, Here are two. There's a photo attached. That's what the here refers to. Here are two of the five coyotes that we encountered this morning on our walk in the neighborhood.

Holy shnikey. I'll say, what's up, doke?

The pups from last spring appear to be all grown up and enjoying the dawn.

Oh, come on now.

Jim Morrison. Jim would dig that. My friends and I have a little, a few friends from Concord, New Hampshire have a little inside joke. Whenever anybody sounds like they're being a little bit of a poet or something that Jim Morrison might enjoy, we say Jim would dig that. Anyway, Jim would dig that. The pups are all grown up and enjoying the dawn. They were all headed back down to the natural area of the park as we headed up the hill.

I literally thought you were still putting the doors off.

The pups were up at dawn

Heading to the natural area I'm not even kidding

Like dawn's headache bleeding Wow

Okay, so I know that we I don't want to be overly specific about your exact location But is there a park nearby Where we think the coyotes are Is it the frisbee park?

It's a park nearby But also, so this is from a park, but I don't know which one. But also last week, though, we were just getting reports of them literally walking up and down our street. We live on a corner and one of the cross streets is like apparently like people just kept on saying, oh, saw another one on the street, saw another one on the street. That was the big one, by the way. Not not a pup. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. Stay away from Taco John's. You know that drop I have?

Is that your Hank Hill?

No, I have a drop. I'll tell you what. You know what happened is. Bobby, stay away from Taco John's. Do I look like I know what a JPEG is? That's pretty good. No, what I was referring to there, and I need to apologize because what happened is you and I ended up getting into a long BS conversation before the show.

We had a one-hour show before this, so I'm certainly loopy.

publishable but luke i came down here with a full like workman's thermos full of coffee and i'm now out of it i drained the whole thing over the past half hour 45 minutes while we were

talking so i'm all over the place i'm not much better because i'm drinking these like supplements now uh that they want me to do ads for on the live wire podcast but first i have to actually drink them interesting and um i mean i don't like have to i could have said no but i i said yes i'll i will i will drink this for a month and see how it goes and i have a very i think low tolerance for extra caffeine in my morning because they got me amped so these have caffeine in them a little bit you're supposed to the instructions say drink them along with your coffee or in lieu of your coffee they what they might want to say is you don't need these and coffee on the same

morning well here's the deal though well let me just finish this well i'll tell you one thing i'm not eating at taco john's that's spicy stuff that is a weird drop that i have is that i don't know he's an internet guy who makes fun of minnesota culture i think he's a long time minnesotan

well i was gonna say it totally reminds me you know who it sounds like

wayne masterson wanted to add a few comments regarding your mole situation who is totally from minnesota taco john's that's spicy stuff you know where i got that from wanted to add a few comments regarding your mole situation going back and forth um when we're in minnesota because you

and i probably took over the course of our you know pre-pandemic career with apm we probably went out there i don't know four or five times to do like a week you know we are we uninvited well none of our colleagues work in minnesota anymore so and also like just since the pandemic everything was kind of shut down and now you know most of our colleagues are kind of spread

around the country in new york and la an excuse to go back to mancini's chart we really do we do

have a you know our boy john sklaroff the apm executive and tbtl executive uh uh is still out there we still have eric the viking stromstead like we could have some fun at a bowling alley in minnesota and i really want to make that a priority very specifically mancini's char

house yeah and man i think i won a hundred dollars on a pull tab there we met oh the world's uh most um sort of accurate uh amateur wrestling yeah historian i feel like the last time i was there

i went back without you for some reason but that doesn't seem right i wonder if you were past were

you passing through did you go back for some work thing that i didn't go back for sometimes

sometimes we're there for work but you leave earlier anyway it doesn't matter one time years and years ago you and i were doing a week of shows from minnesota and i think i was just desperate to find any kind of audio drops that had anything to do with minnesota and i found myself regarding your mole situation i found myself on this guy's like youtube feed or show or whatever it is and i think that our listeners in minnesota or in the twin cities might know who this guy is because he's kind of like a you get the impression avivs and i had a conversation like this just the other day that he's a humorist you know how you have like kind of comedians and you have writers but then you have humorists i have a feeling that this guy is a well-known humorist in minnesota but do you think he is saying that is he in on the joke yes the joke that like okay okay yeah it's not like it would be better if he weren't but the whole thing is like let me introduce you to minnesota culture and it's like he explains the the long goodbye I think do I have any more of this

This guy, I mean, that's the thing. I want to whisper this because I don't want to hurt any feelings, but, like, I didn't really think it was that good. I'd like to point out that this makes an entire week of shows where sports has been discussed.

Here, I think this is as much Minnesota flavor as I can. I love what the Stewbot is. The most important thing to remember about the Minnesota long goodbye is to start early, hours before you climb in the car and drive down the road toward home.

Actually, that voice sounds different. I thought that was the same goodbye.

A lot of humorous out there. You know, I found out about The Long Goodbye when I was in Tennessee, and I tweeted about this. So people, please observe my Twitter feed while it still lasts. But I had never fully – I hadn't really experienced it in Minnesota, but I got a heavy dose of it in Tennessee, which was basically you're standing around with someone, and they're saying, all right, well, I'll let you get to it. But they have to say it about three times before the conversation is actually over. and it was yeah it was an interesting dynamic i guess it's kind of i mean i i would imagine a lot of regions have their version of it it feels kind of king to bring it back to the hank hill it feels kind of king of the hill ish like that's a texas thing but yeah that airbnb that i was staying in that i loved so much like the the guy who owned it was a absolute sweetheart and i really enjoyed hanging out with him but we would be standing around by like the little fire pit or whatever And it'd be only on the fourth. Well, I'll let you get to it that I realized the conversation has now officially ended.

You have to you have to decide when to get to lose who loves your baby. I do. I Wayne Masterson. I had a I've had this sort of intrusive thought in my head the past few weeks because I don't have that many phone calls these days. And I had a pretty long phone call with an old friend of mine. and I am really awkward on the phone these days I think because I I'm just used to people not wanting to talk on the phone and maybe I wonder if this job has affected me too the idea of like I'm very uncomfortable with like moments of silence sort of I feel like if there's a moment of silence then everybody feels awkward and it's my job to break up that awkwardness somehow and I was talking to my friend for quite some time and she's just a bit of a slower talker right and she's actually the one of the reasons we were talking is because she's dealing with some medical stuff so she was maybe you know on medicine and talking a little bit slower than usual and we get to a point in the conversation where there is a lull and we've been talking for a little bit and I said to myself or no I didn't I said to her on the phone I said um okay well I'm gonna let you go and then we ended up she's like oh okay and then we started talking some more we probably stayed on the line another 20 minutes or something like that but that I'm gonna let you go first of all it wasn't time to quote unquote let her go and I remember Luke I think I was in high school using that phrase maybe college but I was a very I was a young man as a young person and I remember I didn't even realize I used that phrase so much to get off the phone and a friend of mine I don't remember who it was but it was a male friend of mine who said listen don't say that I'm happy to talk more like you want to go don't say you're gonna let me go I always find that a little insulting and i remember just being like wow like it was real talk like you know he wasn't like mad at me and we didn't fight over it it was just like it was like straightforward like friend feedback that i thought about a lot and i wish i could remember who it was who said that because i give him credit for being blunt with me but said you're not letting me go you you just want to leave you want to end this phone call i'm like all right fair enough so now i just say fuck you

and i hang up i find it interesting that you can't remember and this is not on you but you can't remember who said that to you because that would be one of the boldest things i've ever said to a friend yeah me too i'm not for them to later be like i can't remember who i can't remember who roasted me once in a way that will forever change my life like you think that would that would burn

their impression into one's brain well i mean i want and again it was not even an intense moment it was somebody who had a really good you know it was a good friend of mine so i was like oh okay So it just stuck with me. I might be even adding a little bit more of an edge to it as I retell it here, as I've had an entire, I would like to reiterate, an entire thermos of coffee. It might have just been a little bit more of a throwaway line and not as finger waggy as I just made it sound. But it stuck with me.

Maybe kind of like laughing a little bit like, all right, I can tell what's going on here. Yeah. I need to get off the phone.

But definitely saying, like, don't say that to me. I feel like it might have been my friend Dave Smilak. If you're going to demand names It might have been Dave Smilak Or a mutual friend of ours who I loved But I can't remember his name anymore I had curly hair Dave Frownlack?

Yes If those two guys were in the same room together They both disappeared Dave Smilak and Dave Frownlack

Yeah, they'd cancel each other out I guarantee you that I can use Dave Smilak's whole name here Because is

nobody can spell it like unless you're actually from poland like you have no idea how to spell smile like it's like one of those like a couple of silent i have a million friends of course growing up in cleveland i have a million friends that just have they throw s's and z's around like you just like forget about steve udich forget about it i remember one of the first really great

onion headlines that stuck with me back when i used to get the onion as a physical publication do you remember those days you ever actually have the paper version of the onion i did and also

prior to that something called weekly week which i think also had a physical publication but i think it was um that was that was a little bit more regional to boston but i remember knowing about it even when i lived in ohio anyway go ahead somebody had an somebody brought the onion into

kuow when i was i think a um like a work study student there and i mean i lost my damn mind reading it i'd never seen anything so funny and uh one of them was i guess we must have been there must have like the war was going on in like bosnia you know one of those places where again from a language standpoint there are names of things that look pretty unfamiliar to us if you don't speak you know serbian or whatever and it was nato airlifting vowels into

i laughed for like two days um you know i think the onion is really having a moment right now i mean i think it's on people's minds because you know i'm sure you saw this story they they filed like friend of the court brief or is that what it was an amicus brief or something yeah like i didn't see this actually yeah the so it's kind of funny like the news headline is that there is a person in ohio who uh was arrested by the police because years ago now in 2017 or 18 he created a fake facebook page for the local police department of his community and just used this facebook page to roast the police and it sounds like it was one of those things that wasn't super funny it

was just like a bunch of lies like if public enemy was from minnesota yeah right there's

song would be called roast the police so anyway uh wanted to add a few comments regarding your situation the police in his uh like the police actually arrested him he spent i believe a couple of days in jail or something eventually when they press charges um i either the charges were dismissed or he won whatever court case was associated with his arrest um but now i think he is suing the police department because obviously that is ridiculous and so the the the case rests on this idea of parody and can you you know p-a-r-o-d-y um and what parody is and so i believe the onion had a headline the other day or made headlines the other day because it filed an amicus brief you know in support of this person and explaining what parody is and the brief itself was written by humorists so it was like sort of funny in its own way or oh that's yeah and i i thought people were making a little bit too much of how funny the the document was i thought it was fine whatever it's but it's important i'm glad we have organizations that stand up for that kind of free speech uh but because of that i feel like people are just kind of celebrating the onion today i woke up to a twitter thread of people saying hey just post your favorite onion headlines throughout the years here i woke like spent 10 minutes today laying in bed just reading headlines and this newsletter that i subscribed to called next draft which is a great uh kind of summary of the day's news um also wrote about this a couple of days ago and was just sharing some of their favorite onion headlines of all time and this one i don't think i knew about and i just heard it for the first time i think yesterday cia realizes it's been using black highlighters all

these years i don't know how these buff headlines keep escaping my radar but that is fantastic

that might be my favorite i was trying to find the article you were referencing and so i was googling the onion minnesota police it's ohio i think ohio okay so i was i was in the wrong state but this is then what comes up as a headline the onion wrote minnesota police say officer accidentally discharged weapon after being startled by sight of gun in own hand i mean i have to say that like they're i guess obviously it's a sort of uh it's a renewable resource just the idiocy of all of us but i'm amazed that they can still just like most things that are funny have a sort of a shelf life and and the onion and click hole and all that stuff it just it never ceases to be hilarious to me you know i mean like they're not running out of jokes

yeah and of course when they have the They have the kind of unfortunate evergreens that they roll out to just, you know, like the what is the one they roll out every time there's another mass shooting. It's something like no way to solve this.

Right. No way to stop. This says nation says only nation where this happens all the time or. Yeah, exactly. Right. Yeah. There's. But like, I mean, yeah, they really I guess. i mean i'm not saying anything interesting here but i guess it's just because as you know as internet culture evolves there's just more and more fertile because i click hole in particular is very funny to me and they're just usually sending up you know internet culture and things like that it's just a like i said it's just a it's a naturally renewing resource and they are

just so good at at skewering it and i am so good at remembering stories this is from the washington post two days ago um let's see here is the onion filed an amicus brief i get a bell for that i'll wait for it thank you uh to the u.s supreme court i left that out okay in support of an ohio man bell please uh who faced criminal charges over a facebook page parodying his local police department his name was anthony novak and he was an amateur comic how can you be either you're that's an interesting thing uh from yeah amateur comic is a weird i mean i say this with peace and

love because we have a lot of uh folks uh you know who are stand-ups in our audience i'd say

90 of comics are amateur comics yeah i mean it's kind of an interesting thing like at what point and i think that isn't that's something people talk about with writers right if somebody says oh this is an aspiring writer you're like no i am a writer i just haven't made any money yet Or like what makes somebody a writer Versus an aspiring writer

You know what that's a really good point And I didn't think about that I'm like acting like the only thing that Verifies you as a comedian is Are you paying your bills with it Which is not a fair way to look at it Like you could be super funny Or you could be you know creating Your form of art And getting no money for it But it doesn't make you less of a comedian Actually as I think about it

I guess the definition of amateur And everybody knew that this would be the interesting place i take the show today does mean you're not making money off of it right so if you have a parody if you have a parody facebook page and you do stand up uh free at uh open mic nights i guess you would be an amateur comic right if you're making well right it shouldn't be relevant to

this case but i'm guessing it was yeah that you know there was a history of this person creating comedic content or parody but again that shouldn't i mean that doesn't seem germane like anybody who has any kind of background should be allowed to create a parody of something and not

risk being in put in jail over it right like if this was adam mckay you wouldn't have to say an amateur comic because everybody knows it's adam mckay and he does parody right and he as he continues to try to take down the the oil industry or what have you right exactly but also it could

be a construction worker who just decided to start this you know website that they should be equally protected yeah but i'm sure that that was mentioned because it was probably part of his contention that it's okay for him to do this is that you know hey i'm a i'm a comedian i'm doing

comedy kind of a thing well the good news is as with all things i'm sure the u.s supreme court

will handle this dude i mean i was thinking about this the other day you know i think i came up You and I both grew up in the period of time where the Supreme Court actually tilted slightly, I guess you would say, liberal, or at the least was not completely stacked with ideologues. I mean, you know, obviously like Antonin Scalia was not great, but it's such a weird experience to see the Supreme Court. And of course, I don't mean I don't mean the Ketanji Brown Jacksons of the world, et cetera. But like the majority of that court is just so gross. And to like, you know, Trump the other day is like he's appealing his bullshit regarding these documents to the Supreme Court. And normally it'd be like, well, phew, the adult, okay, that's a relief. The adults are now going to handle this. But you can no longer say, phew, because you don't know what these effers are going to do. Yeah, exactly. There's a really good book by Elie Mestal, who is a frequent guest on Chris's TV show, and he was on Chris's podcast talking about the Supreme Court. He's kind of a Supreme Court expert. And I hadn't thought of it this way until he described it. But, I mean, it's just a very, very small group of people. Like, if you look at the number of people that are associated with the Supreme Court, not even the justices, but, like, their staff, et cetera, it's, like, under 100 people. And they have the power. to you know change the laws effectively in this country and if you look at that compared to how many people are involved with congress and even the white house it's like this very very tiny i mean we're basically living in a um it's almost like the you know ayatollahs in iran or something that's like you know religious council yeah it feels like a theocracy it really does i mean and i i would say it is based on those particular members of the court now but it's also just it's it's remarkable what a small number of a very very small number of people can have such a huge influence i don't understand why am i talking about this now stop talking burbs i don't understand why we're not packing the supreme court right now or not getting rid of the filibuster either because we're worried like the second that mitch mcconnell is back in power if eliminating the filibuster helps him even one percent he will do it like there is absolutely no regard for norms i don't understand and i do mean the people from the tv show cheers one of my top 10 tv shows of all time personally can i make a quick correction on that when you're done yes i'm done i'm stopping i wish i could re i wish i could erase the last if only this show was on tape and we could edit andrew uh i wish i could erase the last 10 minutes i'll tell you

what i'll take a look here a little put a little marker there do a little cleanup later maybe see if there's any editing opportunities trees they're all around us but who gives a shit that's my favorite onion drop by the way i don't know what the hell that was i just have a two-minute drop that says the onion trees that makes me laugh so so much here's my correction on that alan seppenwall thing that uh was in rolling stone we it was like a a list of the top 100 uh television shows of all time now i just stumbled on that during the show if you'll recall and then you and I kind of made a little game about trying to get you to guess what the top 10 shows are or something like that it was a lot of fun actually uh it was a good excuse to talk about those shows but I didn't really read into what we were talking about and it wasn't actually Alan's list because I was started to say at one point during that conversation like how much is this based on his particular demographics I think Alan Seppenwald is a white guy probably around our age And so when you see shows like Breaking Bad and The Sopranos ranking high, would that be different if it were I that was kind of on my mind. And I think you and I started to say something along the lines of that. But after the show, immediately people reached out to say, no, no, no, that was I mean, he had the byline on that. But like that was based on this poll that went out to like, I think, hundreds or over 100 people who work in the TV industry or have some sort and maybe critics and stuff as well. And some of the actual forms were circulating as to how people were reacting. I can't remember who it was, but several people sent me some showrunners list that was just like hilarious in and of itself. So that was the result of polling of people kind of in the industry or industry adjacent, I believe, for whatever that's worth.

Yeah, that's a good clarification. Let me also clarify that Ellie Mistel's book is called Allow Me to Retort, A Black Guy's Guide to the Constitution. OK, gotcha. So I have not read the book yet.

I can't cut the reference to that then.

OK. It sounds very – certainly his appearance on Chris's show made the book sound very interesting to me. So I would say, Andrew, edit, delete everything I said up until Ellie Mistel's book title. And then people go, what? OK, that sounds good. They'll have no context, but it'll be fun. It'll be a guessing game for them to try to figure out why we got why we were there as a show. OK, here's the deal.

I got to do this now. I'm sorry. Only because a bunch of people sent this to me. The showrunner that I was referring to, whose response to this TV poll went kind of viral, is the BoJack Horseman creator. I don't know. Raphael Bob Waksberg, I believe, is how it's spelled anyway. I'm going to give you. So they've actually just printed out and shared what his official ballot says. And so for the number one slot, he just lists all three shows that he works on.

bojack i was gonna say yeah yeah like is he on tukey and birdie as well tukey and birdie is the

other one there too um his number six one is the x files episode where it's cops a cops parody like he's just like and then like the last one is just like all the shows made by my friends uh who would be bummed if i left them off this list um and it's just like it's a very uh fraser minus the fat jokes comes in at number 42 for him so anyway check that out it's a good read i i didn't

i'm trying to think like i didn't realize fraser had that many fat jokes but i'm sure it did i'm sure any show from that era had so much casual just hurtful stuff that we would probably not do

now i'm gonna take I'm going to take a stab at this here, and it's amazing that I even remember her name, but I think David Hyde Pierce's character's wife, Niles is his name, he had a wife named Maris who was never on screen, right? Oh, right. And he always was crushing on Daphne. This is amazing because I was not a stan of that show. I don't know how. Wasn't Daphne played by Perrin Gilpin? Okay, there's no, okay, you get a bell, but there's no need to show me up here, but probably, I don't know. Perry, I was wrong.

It's Perry Gilpin. I'm going to reverse that, though. It's not tossed salad and scrambled eggs. It's tossed salad and fried eggs. I've been saying that wrong, too.

Oh, my God. So, anyway, what was I saying? Oh, so my guess is that Maris, this off-screen character, I'll bet you, I don't know for sure, but I'll bet you that they described her because he was not in love with her anymore, right? So, I'll bet you they portrayed her in ugly ways. Oh, I see.

It's sort of a bad lax kind of thing. That's my guess. Interesting. i totally forgot about the maris uh mcguffin right because he's always talking about her but she's you never see her she's yeah i mean i have to tell you though like i i didn't i also i didn't watch that show i didn't actively watch that show but i think that was during a period of time where i was watching a lot of must-see tv and so it was the kind of thing that it'd just be on after whatever i had been watching and i was pretty jazzed that they said it in seattle Oh, I'll bet you As a teen, I was like It must have been how you felt when the Drew Carey show Was set in Cleveland, Andrew

I mean, actually, it's kind of weird, because I think quite the opposite I feel like, I don't know if that was just me Or if that was the city, was there more pride I feel like, for some reason, Cleveland Was always, like, more bashful about the portrait I must be wrong about that

Well, I mean, because I also think it was One show was Sort of projecting an extremely erudite You know, a therapist Who hosts a call-in show And his brother Who's also extremely intellectual And they live in like a cool condo And the space needle is in the skyline And then the Drew Carey show was like Cleveland rocks And like he works at an apartment store And there's the lady with too much eye shadow on

Right and it's like That's the thing I think it was more me The more I think about it And by the way I did all this talk of Minnesota I swear I was not putting on an affect there But I said oh I'll betcha I sounded more Minnesota Boy, it's really sinking in And I'm talking to a Seattleite Not even a Minnesotan Anyway, I remember thinking that It was all a little cringy But, you know, the Drew Carey shit But that's also because I was A sarcastic, eye-rolling Gen X teenager And also, it was just so blunt I hate that Cleveland Rock song And I'm sorry, I know, I don't like the original And then they had, like, I think for that TV show They had the Presidents of the United States like do a cover version of that song and like and i know that there's some seattle roots there too but i'm not gonna pretend like i like that band i never liked that band i always thought it was very like kind of hokey and um what's the word like novelty-esque like hey we're gonna take

strings off of our instruments like good for you sorry for the for the this is the beginning this is the drew carey show cleveland rocks full theme why oh did you pay for the hd version wow i forgot that craig ferguson was on this show i don't i remember that actually i kind of love this intro visually or this intro to the song This intro to the TV show Like they're running in the streets of Cleveland I think it helps also that the audio is so bad Because it feels real lo-fi It feels real garage rock I mean

Yeah, I actually like the structure of this song It's just like the chorus is Cleveland Rocks It lacks, I would say, subtlety

Who did the original? You said this was a cover?

Yeah, I think it was a power pop band From like the 70s, no?

Cleveland Rocks, Cleveland Rocks, Cleveland Rocks.

I'm kind of into this. Also, a lot of the intro is set at the baseball stadium for the then Cleveland Indians. And golly, I wish the Mariners were there and not going to Toronto. You know who does that song?

And this is why. Because, again, I actually like the sound of that song, the original. But I just don't like the chorus, Cleveland Rocks. And, again, I'm from Cleveland. I was inundated with it but you know who does that song and why you like the sound of it it's your boy Ian Hunter Mott the Hoople he did the original version of it you're hearing the presence of the United States so it was the president's who did the Drew Carey version yeah

interesting i so another seattle connection so i should have also taken pride in oh is it drew carrie intro oh really is the president oh oh yeah the president's the united states yeah but that's interesting that it was like the moth the hoople guy yeah exactly like in the 70s he

just decided to write a song called cleveland rock i don't know the details i mean i could wikipedia it but maybe we could leave that to another podcast okay coming up on it no here

it andrew researches no i meant the guy from mott the hoople i didn't mean that one of mine

coming up on live wire okay let's see so he wrote the song it was a de facto anthem to cleveland the song was played every friday at 5 p.m on cleveland radio station wmms beginning in 1979 and is used as a victory song so now i could see that you're living in cleveland it's five o'clock it's end of the workday you put on the buzzard and you listen to cleveland rocks but isn't that guy i mean he

Isn't he British, presumably? Yeah, I think so. I'm not sure I'm looking at that. It would be like Bruce Springsteen. I'm not putting those guys on the same level, but it'd be like Bruce Springsteen writing a song for Brixton.

Well, here's the deal. It was inspired by the songwriter's desire to counteract the poor reputation of a city for which he had some affection. Hunter states on his website, the inspiration for Cleveland Rocks goes back to the old days when people used to make fun of Cleveland. I think they still do, Ian. Cleveland was uncool And LA and NYC were cool I don't see it that way A lot of heart in Cleveland So he just really liked The city I guess

That's really awesome actually I liked it I told you I'm a big fan Of that casino in Cleveland Oh the Rocksino The Rocksino I'm a fan of calling The Rocksino hotline Alright Oh We have an update On the Bobby Wagner situation By the way Which we can talk about When we come back From this very short break Here on TBTL all right let's thank some daily donors for their support people keeping the show going people like jennifer strom in saint charles illinois thanks jennifer i don't know where st charles is i i've i've not i may have driven past it when i was on my way to paxton illinois which if you remember when we wrapped up our uh our week of attempted hitchhiking and then rental carring and all of that we ended up in mississippi but then i had to go to illinois after that to go to monster truck school oh right that was around that same time yeah yeah it was it was an epic drive that sunday morning i got up and just drove through basically like rural mississippi while listening to the in the dark season that was set in rural mississippi yeah and then ended up in rural illinois now i don't know if saint charles is rural or not i do remember getting a ticket right as i crossed into illinois like a speeding ticket i think it was from like something like something mound illinois which i think only exists as a speed trap and i want to say that i like i didn't pay it or i tried to argue it and usually with those kinds of things i feel like if you send a letter saying i didn't realize i was going so fast or i didn't realize i was parked there as a courtesy for your time of sending the letter they just knock like half of it off they go well you did it but we're just going to only charge you like half of the thing that's not what they were doing in that part of illinois they were like if you want to contest this you can come back to this town and make your case or you can pay us a hundred

dollars did you go back and represent yourself did you wear a white suit a linen i did a real

my cousin vinny situation i told him there was two utes what's a ute but you know what actually that kind of that kind of that that legitimately messed up my insurance for a while i remember getting like yeah getting some new policy and then being like yeah it's gonna be whatever it was this was before the days of kevin o'brien at liberty mutual at liberty biberty um and uh whoever it was i was getting the insurance was like yeah you have this speeding ticket in something mound illinois and they're like therefore we have to charge you like an extra two hundred dollars a

month and i was like really jeez louise so yeah you'd well it pays to pay your parking ticket i guess because if you're adding well this was speeding the problem is moving or i'm sorry that's how your ticket i'm in your traffic violations or what have you well it pays to

not get it which i never i will never get another uh speeding ticket because i now use ways everywhere i go and it's always telling me where the cops are and that really helps oh i thought

you're gonna go in a different direction but i use um google maps which you know that i think Google owns Waze now. It's weird that they're still.

two different services but i whatever i think they still collect data from ways and implement

it sure but does does google maps give you an alert if there's a cop i'll bet you there's a

setting for it i don't get an alert but i do see a little like um image of a laser pointer or something or you know like a radar gun or whatever on the map in the same way you can see a little indicator of an accident up ahead um but what i like the most about it is and this is a very different approach to life is um in the bottom right hand corner of the map like i have a car where you can plug your phone in and then like the the screen on the console becomes the map right and so in the bottom right hand corner of that screen on my console is always the current speed limit which i actually find very helpful because sometimes i just don't know and like does it flash

you if you're going no no it doesn't do that it'll tell you oh really just not in a bad way but just in a like it'll show you the speed limit and then it'll go red so it'll be like a speed limit sign But then it'll be red, and it'll show you what your speed is versus the speed limit.

Oh, that's interesting. No, I don't have that. Although, how do you feel about the—well, let's just—never mind. Let's just thank the donors. I don't know why I got so exhausted there. How do I feel about what? I just keep taking us into these weird tangents.

That is—Andrew, that's what Jesse Wesson is paying for. Good point. In Burlington, Washington. Beautiful Burlington, Washington. Up near where I used to live. Also, Trina Bivens is in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Thank you, Trina. William Hartman checking in from Oakland and back the Oakland and something town, the Bay Area and back down. What do they say in California love?

Oh, I don't know. I'm not going to try. Sorry, not to know but you, but I just can't. I can't compete in that space. You're not going to you can't quote the entire song California love. I know there's a part where it sounds like a robot.

You've done enough. Thanks, William. Also, Don Bly is in Seattle, Washington. Do you know the lyrics to Cleveland Rocks? I think I know. Let's see. I know they're subtle. Thanks, Don. Also, Dave Gabala is in San Francisco, California. the yay scarier as my friend Shireen Miraji used to always call it the yay scarier not mentioned in the song California Love by the way San Francisco or Shireen neither Englewood always up to no good that's from Cleveland Rocks

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I don't know if I feel vindicated by this or like I'm just being no fun But the guy who was tackled by Bobby Wagner has filed a police report Oh, no kidding Yes, in the matter Now, if you listen to yesterday's show or if you watched Monday Night Football the other night, you saw that the Bobby Wagner, now a Los Angeles Ram, former longtime Seattle Seahawk, was on the sideline and this guy was out there streaking on the field. Do you feel you said this yesterday? Do you feel that streaking implies nudity or is streaking just when you run onto the place you're not supposed to be?

That's what first of all, I do think it implies nudity. I could be wrong about that. We can explore that now. but I was also criticizing Eli Manning because of course he was doing it live like I'd like we tape the show and I say a million regrettable things but he specifically was saying well that person had their clothes off I guess they have them on now like I don't think there was ever a moment where these protesters had their clothes off but I don't know does streaking the problem

is we don't have a word streaking is the word we have for when you run like onto a sport field or someplace you're not supposed to be we don't have a and again it used to involve being naked it may not always now but we don't have a different word for it well as far as streaker

i was saying protester which i think works but as far as the actual act of running onto a field yeah what would you call that if not streaking well i am googling now is all streaking nude so look out for my uh advertisements that i'll be getting um let's see here's a surprising history of streaking i don't know i guess um i think streaking comments regarding your role situation well i i feel like i feel like you have to be naked to streak no well i'm not

disagreeing with you what i'm saying is we don't have a word when somebody runs onto the field nobody says there's a protester out there yeah right because

it's typically not there's somebody running out on the field well we got somebody running out on

the field we got somebody you know a field runner like what do we call i see i think streaking i agree with you that its origins are in nudity but now at this point i think we just call somebody running out onto the pitch or the field or what have you we just call that a streaker

I all I know is I am my mouse is hovering hovering over an article on wiki how that is called how to go streaking colon 11 steps with pictures all right let's find out okay this isn't going to answer our question but do you want to know so number one rule there's 11 steps here plan your fleshy escape I don't think we needed the word fleshy in there but the number one rule is pick a place know your exit plan okay I'm going to skip over the details here since there are 11 number two you make sure that you pick a time you'll look a lot skinnier in the dark it says um so they're just like they're talking like run through your college campus nude i'm assuming yeah um if you streak on private property be aware of trespassing laws that's all part of number two number three choose your company wisely too many stories involve some poor schmuck getting his undies stolen and then he has to grab the nearest garbage can lid oh that didn't even occur to me in other words if you have some compatriots in the streaking thing make sure that you can trust them so that when it's time to get dressed again they haven't stolen your clothes and left you out oh i see it i believe number four uh cover all your bases i mean that's just more planning number two doing this is boring i'm not going to keep going with this this is they're they're they're just stretching this out um and i don't have any

more good advice in this article you could not pay me enough to streak i mean i know you love it i

know it's one of your favorite activities i don't even consider it streaking i just consider it being natural like this is the body that god gave me and boy is he a cruel god situation

i'm just saying you should have some of those looked at yeah absolutely all right uh so that's the bobby wagner update is that the guy has filed a police report which i was thinking about that this morning and it was like is there any other context where i'm just doubling down on what i said yesterday which was i didn't think it was necessary like if you worked at a walmart and somebody was shoplifting i guess if you were security you could detain them and maybe if you had to use force it would be considered you know appropriate i was trying to think of other job like other workplace type of deals where it would be okay for you just to absolutely truck

someone well haven't we heard from people maybe it was your brother when he was working in retail or somebody else who said like you're trained specifically like especially for these you know these these national chain department stores or what have you it's not really your job to stop someone because that will just create problems you're supposed to make people feel like they are being watched right like you're supposed to ask can i help you with that exactly like can i

help you with that jewelry that's currently in your backpack but if you're not an action if it's

not part of your job description to be security and in this case the football players are not security like i actually you know the more we talk about it the more i think i sort of feel strongly about that if it were actually a threat like if there was some argument to be made because this person was holding a smoke bomb that bobby wagner can make the argument i thought that this person was a danger to people on the field or the stands then i think that you're like hey yay hero but if it's clear that this person is just trying to make a statement or just a distraction or whatever i don't think it's i don't think it's the job of these like huge football players and and like i said yesterday in like football armor to tackle these people i mean not to take it to a

overly intense place but it's like a huge issue in this country would be uh police brutality right Like just because somebody is doing something that's illegal does not mean that the police should physically assault them if there is a way to deescalate it differently. And this is one of these things where it's like somebody used much more physical force than was necessary. They were also not deputized to do that. And it was generally celebrated in the world. And that's just weird to me.

Yeah. Anyway, interesting to see what happens there. I'm sure that there will be like what? It'll probably be the charges will either be dropped or they'll reach a settlement. Right.

Well, they're not – the guy has filed police charges, but I don't know if that means – like, the police are not – like, I don't think – I think there's zero chance that Bobby Wagner will be in any legal jeopardy over this.

You don't think the cops will side with this protester over an NFL football player?

And as long as he promises to never kneel during the anthem, I think that he's aces by them. Don't worry, Luke. It says end racism in the end zone now. Problem solved. I would 100% root for a football team exclusively based on the fact that they brought colin kaepernick in and i don't care how old he is i will take a 70 year old colin kaepernick just make it a run heavy offense just let him hand off like i i'm a i'm five percent surprised that a team has not just out of pure like what virtue signaling hired colin kaepernick yeah well i feel like you'd become the most favored football team amongst liberal

yeah well i mean i think it's pretty clear that he was like like literally blacklisted right like Like, I mean, that that ownership group or, you know, the ownership, you know, all the all I guess the group of we don't like Jerry Jones's takes. It's just like it's the people at the top echelons of all of these teams just said, no, we don't we don't have room for that in our in our organization. And, you know, like while we're just on this topic, because I can't separate out this idea that and I would like to reiterate again, I do not. I am not familiar with this animal rights organization where these two protesters ran out in the field on Monday Night Football. I just keep on seeing it referred to as a controversial organization, but sometimes controversial organizations do good things. I don't know. I'm not taking a stand on that. But when you talk about doing something like this, you always have the people who are like, well, you're if you want us to talk about things, you don't have to like ruin our football game. But, like, before George George Floyd was murdered, like nobody was talking about police brutality until Kaepernick took a knee. Like, it's just it's just I mean, I know that this is the most obvious thing to say, but you just have all these people like when that was the when that was the big conversation for years about whether or not he'll end up back in the league, whether or not he was done wrong or done dirty, as we like to say. Like, they're like, yeah, but you don't have to do it during a few comments regarding your role situation. They would always say, well, you don't have to do it during the anthem. It's like you wouldn't be talking about it This wouldn't be a national conversation If he just quietly did it in his living room That's not it So these people who took to the field with the pink smoke Grenades or whatever And streaked or flashed Or whatever you want to call it Like you have to take drastic measures In order to get people talking about what you want them to talk about If you protest subtly And quietly in a corner It's not a protest

Well behaved quarterbacks rarely make history that is the bumper sticker that i have a bell for that a hundred percent and also i mean anytime somebody says why do we have to bring politics into this i promise you they're bringing their politics into it in some other way like the like it isn't a giant knob job for the military everything that happens on the football field you know it's like that's such a i feel it's such a bad faith argument to be like well can't we just have football be non-political sure let's get rid of about 90 percent of what goes on then because it is the you know the valence is political also we could talk i mean we should talk about the cte stuff like it is a very very fraught topic and for people to be like can we just have fun on sundays and we don't need this to be a political thing

it's like it is already a political thing yeah it absolutely is yes and also and i know it's so weird that i'm just like fighting this fight now like the conversation has moved on but it just always irked me when people would call it the um the uh the pro they would say what protesting the anthem oh he's like like some quote-unquote legitimate news sources would have headlines or refer to it as like his his protest of the anthem or his anthem protest it's like no it was a protest that happened during the anthem there was i mean it just you're already playing into the opposition's hands when you're saying he's protesting the anthem as if there's as if he has a problem no he's saying we have this anthem that is supposed to represent who we are as a society and we're not living up to those ideals so i'm going to take a knee like that's not protesting the anthem i'm it was all it was just such a it was just such a screw from the

beginning i meant to bring that up when i was in tennessee with some of the people at the marbles tournament i mean why am i yelling about that i mean it's still important i wound you up on it and and it's you know sometimes it's cathartic i don't know if it is for the listeners well i was talking about howard stern on the show yesterday i love that he is he's like my dad in that like he clearly gets some sort of physical relief from just like ranting about trump and as a listener i am very much there for it in both cases so hopefully to our listeners us litigating the colin kaepernick situation somehow kind of cathartic what about a coach do you think that

you'd ever see him as a coach i just think that like the the the league got together and and sent a message right like this man will never i mean it is an interesting situation you have to acknowledge that at some point he did sue the nfl and it it would be an awkward money which that

was to me when i was like this guy will if there was a chance of him playing that chance has definitely expired which i don't fault him for that but that was like that was like kind of you

know i thought that was the end of the book yeah i mean i probably wouldn't hire somebody who sued me but there were many many many chances before that lawsuit was filed to do right totally and i I mean, now the thing is, it's like...

you know even though he's in shape and and has not been being hit a bunch uh he is you know he's he is aging as all of us are and he is you know there will be a point where it would make no sense just because he's like 50 although that's what i'm saying it gets interesting for me as a viewer a 50 year old colin kaepernick dropping back uh in the pocket as a seahawk i would really i would watch that i would i mean just like i would like one nfl owner to just be like i'm gonna be the woke owner and i'm going to just like i'm going to start colin kaepernick at quarterback i'm going to have aoc as a wide receiver the all woke team all right bernie sanders slot back nancy pelosi can she can be like the offensive coordinator nancy pelosi there you go yeah okay

i was gonna say long snapper but maybe maybe she's a coach at this point yeah they're so

focused on trying to win football games they should be more focused on stunts like the harlem globetrotters of football when is somebody going to do that in the nfl hey luke i i gotta say

something here i gotta interject it's changing the subject again but my timing on something was really off today because i played that little piece of tape of um the taco johns thing that i played earlier remember and i and i was kind i was sort of like it i was kind of um wanted to had a few comments regarding your mole situation it's this was that the audio well i'll tell you one thing i'm not eating the taco john's that's spicy stuff i think or maybe it's the long goodbye when i played before but i was kind of having some fun saying this is definitely humorist territory well that humorist who um did these uh who wrote a book how to talk minnesotan and whatever i was going to play some tape at the end of the show his name was howard moore he was a humorous and an author and he just passed away he just passed away so rest in peace and i'm sorry if i was uh teasing a little bit too hard at the beginning of the beginning of the show you know i

actually found maybe you just pulled the best clips but i found that to be actually quite droll

and fun yeah it was observation it was fine i think i was being a little um i think i was being

a little uh cruel before we don't have like a seattle version of that i think maybe it's just because the Northwest hasn't been around as long? Well, what about the...

We were just talking about the Cashmans, sort of. Pat Cashman. Pat Cashman and that kind of era. As an outsider, I come here and that 90s, almost live crew, the way that it was this very celebrated, local, sometimes corny, no offense, very regional humor. Doesn't that kind of feel... Because this is the same era for Minnesota, the stuff I've been playing.

Well, certainly that very much filled that void at the time. But I'm saying, like, there isn't currently anybody that I can think of, probably other than our friend Bill Radke. Maybe he's now the number one. And not that he's even really trying to play in that space. But there isn't, like, I feel like places like Minnesota have more humorous. maybe it's just the shadow that garrison keeler like you know casts over everything because it's like the ultimate minnesota humorist i guess is maybe why i'm thinking that more towns have it than really do i mean there's probably not a los angeles humorist maybe it is just specific to minnesota and mostly garrison keeler related yeah i'm not sure yeah they're but that kind of down home folksy like right yeah yeah kind of not like as my friend robert smith used to say funny for public radio right exactly which is mostly what i that's that's really what i traffic in that's

what vives and i used to talk about all the time i remember saying long before i knew you that was my go-to statement on the matter i said there's a reason they call it public radio humor um so

the news is uh on twitter is that elon musk is back to trying to buy twitter we thought that was done i guess i had forgotten it's like sort of like one of those halloween movies you think michael myers is dead but uh he in fact is not dead and is coming for the one social media platform that i actually sort of care about um the piece that i read in the new york times the other day uh from kevin roos said that it's his opinion that if elon musk is successful in buying twitter like one of the first things he's going to do is let trump back on it and i really feel not unlike you um with the cleveland browns i feel like that might just be the end of it for me because i find it so unbelievably detrimental to our society for donald trump to have that megaphone and to be able to just like live rent free in our head i mean it has been so amazing to not have him agitating on twitter and not have it make news like when he does something on truth social nobody knows about it you know until like maybe one or two news organizations like mentions it but it's like he just he's not able to to get under my skin in the same way because he doesn't have the megaphone and if he gets the megaphone back i don't know if i want to

be in the place where that megaphone exists yeah i feel that i mean because that is and again this kind of comes back to something we've been talking about a lot lately like the um the the disappearing line between politics and just trolling right and i just sort of feel like as somebody with progressive values I feel like people on the other side of the issues aren't even really interested in the issues they're just interested in like owning the libs and like how can we get a reaction and it's you know it actually goes back maybe it even triggers me a little bit about like kind of bullying right like I remember being a kid who was bullied and people adults would say well the only reason you're being bullied is because you're giving them the reaction that you want you're like well what do you want me to do like I'm a human being right um so and like And you're right, if they're like, hey, we all have this place where we can talk now and we can share our opinions on whatever we want to share our opinions about, about the culture wars, but we're not upsetting any liberals with it, and so it's not enough for us. like i i don't know like i don't know i read rusa's thing um i don't know i don't know how much we'll see twitter change immediately and it's like i'm fine i'm fine like if it changes immediately and everybody just gets off it fine i i don't think i'll miss it that much um i just think that we have other we have other platforms too and i understand like twitter is not the same as instagram or instagram stories like yes you can write something and post it to instagram but I understand it's not the same thing, and a lot of people have an issue with Instagram being so video-based now these days anyway. But I just think that we'll all get by, and with the world of, like, kind of technology and social media as it is.

Spoken like a person who doesn't have 15,000 followers, most of whom are probably eggs.

No, you're right. Maybe that probably is a big difference. You have a big audience there, and I just don't – yeah, I don't know. I just – I don't know. I don't think that it's going to change immediately. And then if it did, and if it becomes a negative place, I guess maybe part of my experience goes back to all those years ago when I remember it was like January 1st, I was on vacation with Genevieve somewhere, I was sitting on a beach, and I was like, you know what, today I'm purging. And I just kind of started to purge all kinds of stuff from my Twitter account, not even just like, hey, people who maybe are somewhat toxic, but just like even some people who are just like comedians and stuff I like, but they were all just saying the same things and being angry all about the same things and stuff I agree with. I was like, I don't need that. And at the time I stripped it down to I think I followed 100 people and they were all like either Mariners fans or Browns fans, basically, or, you know, and it's built up since then. But like, that is my bubble. I have no, I don't feel any responsibility to use Twitter to stay informed on all the opinions around the world. Like, I've kind of curated it to be my own little myopic view of the world anyway. And so I don't know, I'm not going to be super upset about it. i'm a little dave rossi where it's kind of like you know i'm i'm i'd be sorry for your loss luke or other people who care about it but i'd be a little bit more interested in kind of like just seeing like oh what'll happen here you know what i mean politics what's that he used to always call it petri dish politics exactly right or peach he was the petri dish pundit i think they called him right because he was like i don't know let's just see what happens and in this case it's kind of like i don't know i just feel like technology and social media will something else will rise up and like you know and sort of take the place of it i'm not super concerned about it and basically i just musk just like we stopped talking about him for a little bit so now he's making headlines

again like that seems well that's the thing yeah for me it's it's a like if he if it feels like francis from uh peewee's big adventure like my dad says i can have twitter like it's just like the richest one of the richest guys on planet earth it just decided he wanted to have this thing and now he's going to acquire it and then kind of ruin it now it is a business so it's like you know he legally has the right to buy it it'd be like if he bought walmart and i was like i can't go to walmart anymore like he bought this thing it just happens to be the thing where i like to hang out and put my little stupid jokes out but again as i said yesterday when i was we were promoting the story we didn't get to it i'm also i would be kind of relieved because like you said it can be a very toxic place and i still to this day mostly start my days by scrolling twitter which is almost never a good way to start one's day and the idea that i could just i also note that like not always but a lot of times when i'm tweeting i think i'm going i am trying to soothe something emotionally in me i mean not 100 of the time but there is a percentage of the tweets and i'll let the listeners guess which ones they are note the time stamp no there is a there's a portion of the tweeting that I do, that's probably because I'm feeling some sense of loneliness or need for affirmation in some way that I think, oh, if I put this fire tweet out and then, and then it happens to be one that sort of.

takes off whatever that looks like for me it's it's very soothing it's very like and i don't think that's a good way for me to get that kind of um feeling you know so if i were to just take it out of my life like i think instagram is a vastly superior platform i just forget to take pictures of things and post that you know like it's just it's not the one that i use um and so if i i feel like if i were to have to get off of twitter it would kind of sting for a few weeks and then it would be so much better for me to just not be on there all the time yeah I mean I do

think that whatever it is like we'll adjust and we'll get addicted to something else probably too I I know that Instagram is not like you know I kind of I'm the one who kind of threw that out there and it just is a very different experience I think you know you it it is more like you have to produce a little thing even if you're not doing video if you want it to be text you have to type it I don't know on on the story screen I've been messing around with stories a little bit more I used to use Instagram Sorry I'm pausing Because I'm just realizing I'm just hearing myself It's not interesting I think the coffee is wearing off I can hear it in my voice I used to Get another thermos I used to be We're going to need a bigger thermos I used to be on I used to be on This website Flickr all the time Which I just got the bill for The other day I just paid another like $80 For another year Oh no that's the worst And I don't Well the thing is I paid it Except when it's DBTL I pay it because As I was, like, just getting into photography, that's where all of my history of photography is. Like, I would post it to this web. I have hard drives and stuff where things are saved, but, like, that is my kind of original kind of, what's the word I'm looking for? Not just a place where I stored my photos. It was the place where I displayed all of my photos, you know, that I was taking with my SLR. Yeah, it's like my little gallery. Now, I hardly ever update it anymore because Instagram has sort of filled that need. And that's where all my friends are now on Instagram, so I get that immediate, like, endorphin rush when somebody's like, hey, I like this photo of a trash can that you took, right? And so I ignore Flickr, but if I stop paying, I lose all my archives. And so I'm just like, don't tell Genity of this. You can't pull that stuff down? I can pull it down, and also I have it all saved somewhere. I save things meticulously, but I just like— I was going to say, that seems like a project that you would enjoy. Yeah, but it's just like— The archiving. I mean, I have them all archived, and they exist somewhere, but it's like, like I say, it's like my gallery, it's like the place where it's up, not that anybody sees the gallery, the lights have been off on the gallery for a while, or the lights are on, but nobody's home, I guess, but, boy, somebody should coin that as a phrase, but anyway, it's just like, I'm just paying for that thing

I believe Tom Baudet has that We'll leave the lights on for you, but nobody's home A lot of humorous talk the thing i've i've quoted this on the show hundreds of times but the most profound thing that tom bodette ever said to me was because he has been sober for many many years and we were in dc at this thing for wait wait it was actually carl castle's retirement and i was trying to get him to come out for some wild night in dc and i was describing to him all these places we were going to go including this place called um it's maybe called the russia house it's this like bizarro russian bar where there's all these like you know gangsters and stuff and you do and i'm describing to him how fun it's going to be he goes boy when you don't drink this stuff really sounds like what it is right i know and i was like oh man that's really that's super on point by the

way breaking news here you don't have to use the sound effect but this just came into mind I have it right here. Okay, go ahead. Wanted to add a few comments regarding your mole situation. Perfect. This just came into my inbox from a neighbor named Vivian. I saw two coyotes about a half hour ago. So this means like literally a half hour ago. I saw two coyotes a half hour ago while walking our visiting small dog. They do not seem overly shy. I hollered at one that seemed to be wanting to meet the dog I was walking. It slowly moved towards us And I yelled at it to stop and stay Like it would even know what I was saying But the tone of my voice Made it stop and reconsider And it sounds like there was another one too That was menacing some squirrels

How far are we from people rescuing coyotes? Oof Who rescued who? Who rescued who?

your soul just remember that life is number one you can be having so much fun just remember that life is much fun you can be all right let's wish some people some happy

If you have anybody in your life, including yourself, that you want to wish a happy Blur's Day to, email me, andrew, at tbtl.net, and put Blur's Day in the subject line. Rachel says, I want to wish a happy birthday to my two girls, Amelia and Marietta. Those are great names, by the way. Yeah, they are. Rachel says, Amelia, I can't believe what an amazing kid you are. You are way cooler than I ever was with your singing, music writing, biking, scooting, and now skateboarding. Marietta, you're turning three tomorrow And I'm so excited to see what kind of a kid See what a kid you are becoming You make me laugh every day And you bring such light Into our hearts

Rachel also says

Look out for coyotes Joanna says, hello Is she on that next door? I assume it's not next door Joanna says, hello friendos I want to wish myself a happy 40th. Yeesh. Birthday. Yeesh to the 40th. I want to add a few comments regarding your role situation. Joanna says her birthday is Saturday, this coming Saturday. Y'all help me through my 30s. Here's to another decade. Heck yeah. Joanna. 40, I'm telling you. I've seen the other side of it. You're merely a kid.

I know. Honestly, like what I wouldn't do to be 40 again.

Stephanie says, please remember Gregory's birthday this Thursday. Okay.

I saw this on Twitter, I believe.

Oh, is this, oh, somebody did tweet at us waiting for his special birthday announcement.

I think Gregory was reminding this person to please submit the Blur's Day message. And the person who submitted it responded, yeah, and then had like an eye roll emoji. And then I think Gregory tweeted this at us.

That's great.

Which I give a huge love.

Yeah, you've got to cover your bases. The many-splendored thing. I love it. Let's see here. Stephanie says, we recently became friends with listener Brent. You know Brent, Luke. Yeah, we do. And Brent is a fantastic photographer. That's me saying that.

Most stylish TBTL listener, I believe.

And Stephanie says that Brent took our 10th anniversary photos and did an amazing job. Of course he did. He's an amazing photographer. But let's keep the focus here on Gregory. Happy Blur's Day, buddy. All right, Luke. this next one i've been a little worried about this all day yeah i think i got confused before

the show you were saying some of the blursday messages were fairly verbose yeah these have

been majorly edited today just so folks know i got to mean there was a ton of messages that's

why at the top of the show i said we've got a ton of messages no and then this next one is a little

bit long but i've been worrying about it because it's a poem and it is in the rhythm of there once was a man from Nantucket. There once was a Blurs from Blurs Blurs Blit. God, I'm so good at just riffing. You wrote that down. You planned that, right? That was not... You handed me a sheet of paper and I read it, Luke. I'm trying to think. It's Edgar Allan Poe's The Raven because this is for Donna in Baltimore. So Baltimore is the birthplace of Edgar Allan Poe which is why you have the Baltimore Ravens there of course i believe their mascot is named poe but then it got injured dope actually now they have a mascot named edgar while poe is recovering i'm not even joking i might have

those names confused but have you that is pretty cool like no but the fact that they're the ravens in you know as a reference to edgar allen poe that's got to be the only nfl team that's named after like a literary well no the san francisco shell silversteins right yeah that's that'd be

The other team. San Francisco, where the sidewalk ends is. So I'm supposed to read this poem. So Laura did a nice job of writing this poem to Donna in the, I guess, cadence of the Raven. But I'm going to have a lot of trouble. I've read it a couple of times. I'm going to have trouble doing this justice, but I will do my best here. Once upon a Blur's Day segment, while I pondered on your present, over many a cup and curious volume of TBTL, while I'm rhyming, nearly rapping, suddenly there came a clapping, as of Blur's Day gently happening, happening, now and evermore. A toast to Edgar, I muttered, whom Charm City does adore, a drink to you both once more, quoth the friendo, happy Blur's.

That's good

I know, I mean, Laura put a lot of work into that Hope I did it justice, Laura

That was really, really good I didn't edit that one

I felt like I couldn't really No, that was very, very clever Nice work And let's see here, finally from Time Bandit Brittany In Kansas City Brittany says

I actually remembered my own birthday this year before the Blur's Day messages segment. It's my actual Blur's Day today, October 6th. If my current listening schedule continues, I should hear this sometime around Thanksgiving. Shout out to all the other Time Bandits.

That's an interesting approach, which is to kind of like just put a little, as I like to say, sunshine in your pocket.

Because you feel like you'd be tempted to skip ahead just to listen to this episode, right?

It'll be a fun little thing around Thanksgiving for Listener Brittany to hear happened.

Yeah, I like that. You and I should start talking about our Thanksgiving plans. We'll do something for Thanksgiving.

Yeah, I'm going to be, I assume, up at the Burbank. I was just going to, because I'm ripping off Dave Ross today, the Burbank Ancestral Home. I think he used to call it the Ross Ancestral Home. He used to do his show from there in Westchester, New York, around the holidays. But yeah, I'll be up at my folks' house. It's going to be very fun. I'm wondering if I'm going to eat turkey this year.

You did last year?

I didn't. I meant to, and then I forgot. Then I just got too hopped up on mashed potatoes and the like. It's like I really want like one bite of turkey. It's not that I even want to have – again, that turkey is not coming back to life if I don't eat some of it. So I don't know. That will be a plot point for the show. Will Luke eat some turkey this year?

I'm on the edge of my seat already. No, I'm on the edge of my seat because I am – You've got visitors, right? I am just starving. I am so hungry right now. See, this – I don't know if this happens to you, but coffee to me – Do you know I wasn't allowed to say I'm starving when I was a kid? You know, as I said that right now, I really wished I hadn't. I said it all the time as a kid. I wasn't saying that in any way to give you shade. I don't like saying that, and I said it as a kid. But my parents were very like – that was like a thing in our house you were not allowed to say. Yeah, no, because there are people who are literally starving, and so I wish I hadn't said that. I was not saying that to give you grief, I promise. No, it's funny, though. You mentioned that, and as those words came out of my mouth, I was like, ooh, that sounds rough. I used to say that as a kid all the time. Mom, I'm starving, but I don't think you should say that. Did your mom say, like, don't say that.

They're starving children in Africa.

No, no. We just said it. It was a phrase, and it was just now that it came out of my mouth, and I heard it. It's like the, what do they say? The scales fell from my ears.

Yes, that's exactly what they say. All right, well, I guess that's the end of the show. Yeah, because I played the music. Uh-huh, and because I played the ending tape.

Want to add a few comments regarding your mole situation?

I've got to tell my friend Lauren that her dad is a really, really heavily featured element of today's episode. I hope, where are his royalties? If only my dad would have uttered something as iconic as...

Want to add a few comments regarding your mole situation?

He'd be getting more play on this program. But anyway, thanks, everyone, for hanging out with us today on TVTL. We will be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you. I promise you, tomorrow will be one of the more concise shows we've ever done because it happens in advance of the Seattle Mariners game. So we are going to be very punctual. Very tight.

I'm actually thinking about if I can't get the newsletter done today, I might just send out a newsletter that says the game is starting. Have a good weekend. I love it. Put a Gone Fishin' sign up.

Maybe I'll do that. All right. We'll see you all tomorrow. Until then, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourselves. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

It's okay to feel good about things here, but there's no sense running down the street telling people about it at the top of your voice. Minnesotans prefer to express their positive feelings through the use of negatives because it naturally levels things out. This will be one of your hardest lessons. Say you just got married or bought a late model pickup under book price with low mileage and hardly any rust. A Minnesotan would say, I wouldn't want you to think I'm not happy. That's a strong statement here. If somebody asks you, how's it going? And you're feeling average or okay, which is about all a guy can expect really, you say not too bad but if you're feeling better than average and the old winds haven't started to blow your way yet you say can't complain which means you could complain but you won't because you feel good now but of course you have no illusions that it's permanent but if you say it could be worse you mean it exactly because things can always be worse they can always be worse more often than they can always be better power out Let's do it.