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Excuse me. Are you happy with that, Park? Yeah, what's wrong with that? You're way outside the line. You're taking up two spaces.

I'm like an inch over the line.

No, you're a foot over the line. You're taking up two spaces. And the next car is also going to be taking up two spaces. Then you're going to leave. And then that car is going to get blamed. This is chaos. Society can't function like this. What? You have to be in the lines the way it's supposed to be. Here's an idea. Why don't you mind your own business? Just say, you know what? I'll do better next time. I did fine. I did fine. No, that's not fine. I don't need to do better. You didn't do fine. You need to do better. Park your car between the lines. It's not that hard. Look, just pull in between the lines.

Why don't you stay between the lines of your own business? Why don't you stay confined within the lines of not being an a**hole? Because you're way over that line, all right?

The only person who's the a**hole here is the pig parker.

A pig parker. Yes. So you're calling me a pig. A pig parker. Hey, you know what? Have a real nice day.

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My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Oh, la, la. Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, where the rain has moved in. Didn't know you like to get wet, though. As has our favorite Denzel Washington drop from the movie Training Day. Get used to it, my friends, because it's going to be a long, rainy fall and winter. Although I have to say, considering it's taken until October 23rd for it to start, I'm kind of ready. I'm ready for my cat to stop terrorizing me there was an incident over the weekend where now granted I was playing with her kind of rough it was rough housing there was horseplay but she jumped out from under the coffee table and just buried one of her talons in my nostril I have a pierced nose now so I guess I didn't have to go to the piercing pagoda in the mall for that so that's kind of cool And then also my lip just sunk a claw right into my lip. I was bleeding fairly profusely. And now let's just say the thing on my lip from the cat appears slightly herpetic. If you see me on the not the said not my job, it's definitely not my job. If you see me on the Hey Dummies video this week with an odd looking wound on my lip, I promise you it's cat related. I promise you this episode of TVTL is going to be a dandy. It's episode 3,799 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. We're going to talk about Halloween and Halloween candy.

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Halloween candy is getting smaller. It is not your imagination. It's really happening. We'll tell you why. Also, speaking of spooktaculars, researchers are looking into why it is that we like being scared by scary movies and haunted houses and things like that. Also, this weekend, there was a music festival in Las Vegas called the When We Were Young Festival. And they had to cancel the first day of the festival. And this was especially bad because it was an emo music festival. so all weekend my entire tiktok feed was emo fans feeling extremely emo about their music festival being canceled and uh i'm in a glass case of emotion well the whole thing was pretty emo so we'll talk about that too and we'll say hi to this guy the longest running cobra of the show may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships he is coming in hot on this monday he is energized. In fact, you might even say he's... he might be too amped for the show. Simmer down, Stu. He's the longest-running co-bro of the program, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's Andrew Walsh. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Lukals. I have two pizza shop-related questions for you, okay? These are local Seattle pizza shops. Alright. Two different questions regarding...

them the first one which is why this is on my mind i heard a commercial again today on the radio on the am dial for a pizza place called west side pizza here in seattle i don't know exactly where they are i assume on the west side are you familiar with it that's not the question that's a lead up

question but are you familiar with west side pizza they they have a lot of delivery cars delivery vehicles and i've seen those delivery vehicles making the round it's not a place that i ever ordered from when i lived in seattle it feels to me like it might have been within the last 10 15 years i didn't it wasn't like a it was no pizza and pipes or pietro's or one of the kind of local standards when i was growing up i'm on their website now it looks like decent pizza and

the wings look good you know i'm a big wings guy it looks like they're not too um too slimy or wet

look like good wings anyway would you agree paul mccartney was one of the only good guys in wings He was the best guy in Wings.

I'm the one who got Paul McCartney out of Wings. You fool. He was the best one. Great Simpsons joke that isn't dated at all. I just heard their commercial on the radio, West Side Pizza. I've been hearing it for a while now, and it's interesting because it's not even, you know how some commercials just have, they've just created songs as opposed to jingles to go along with their radio commercial. Does that make sense to you?

It's not like, you know, Carnation Instant Breakfast. You're going to love it in an instant. That would be a jingle, right? Yeah, exactly. But a song is something that's more just like musical.

This comes in, it's like a power pop song. It sounds like, and I'm really bad with bands, especially from this era, but it sounds like something from kind of the early 2000s, like power poppy, and it comes in like really kind of, you know, full band, kind of very happy sounding, but the first, and it sticks in your head so i give him credit but the lyrics are and i'll kill the music here and i'll try to sing this but it's early on a monday and i don't usually sing but they sing it's all about the pizza with every breath we take whoa that's been yes okay breath we take that answer thank you that's my question does that seem a little over the top it is just it makes me it takes me out of the pizza eating experience and it makes me really wonder about this family and if they're i mean they sound like they're like if it's a family run place or the people who work there or whoever it is it sounds so intense i want every breath okay that's yes calm down gordon sumner i'm telling his real name um with every breath it's all about the pizza with every breath we

take i mean that just feels like too much of a commitment for pizza it does for almost anything Maybe like trauma surgeon or, you know, U.N. refugee sort of relocate. Like I'm trying to think of some jobs where it should be every breath you take.

Right. We do no pizza harm.

That's that's now I have a question for you. Yeah. Do they is does the word bake come in? Are they using that phrase because it rhymes with bake? That's a pizza term.

Can I be honest with you? I hear those first two lines, and then my brain just starts going off in this direction of thinking about how over-the-top those lines are. And I don't remember what comes next.

Will you do me a kindness? Will you try to stay engaged next time you hear it? Try to stay in the moment. I'm wondering, oftentimes when there's a questionable line, like even just in a regular song, that just kind of doesn't make sense. It's because it's in the service of rhyming with something else that seems critical to the song. And I'm wondering if it's like, with every breath we take, a really awesome pizza will bake. I mean, that would also, I'm not saying it's going to win a Grammy.

Yeah, I don't think that's it, though.

That's weird.

Commercial, can I find this here?

No. I mean, this would be a miracle because local radio commercials, there's no eye spot for that. Or, you know, it doesn't get YouTubed nearly enough.

No. Although, ooh, I'm going to come in hot tomorrow or the next day with a commercial that I found from a VHS tape from the 90s that I digitized. But I haven't isolated it yet for an electronics store that I've never heard of. And I think it might have been an electronics store here in the 90s. Holt, keep your powder dry, Luke. I'm going to play it for you later this week. And I want to know if you're familiar with it.

Is it video only?

No, no. It's not. It's something that seems more special than that. 90s. So you've answered my question about West Side Pizza. said that is an over-the-top lyric like you hear your reaction was whoa and i'm like yeah okay great okay that was my first question second and this is a more broad-based question i'll fill in details later but spiro's pizza if i'm saying that correctly s-p-i-r-o-s do you have any intel on this just the pizza company i mean existence yeah i mean is this something you've heard of before Like, I've passed this place in Shoreline. And something has sort of stood out to me about it. But, like, is there a grand tradition of Spiro's Pizza here in Seattle? Is this a place that as youth you would go to? Is it on your radar at all?

No, but what it is is I think there's a few of them, right? And it's part, I think, of a – my guess would be, and I don't think I've ever darkened the door of a Spiro's Pizza, but can I say something that will seem – people are – how do I put this?

What did I back you into? This is delicious.

I would I would very strongly guess that Spiro's pizza that I could tell you exactly what the pizza tastes like and looks like without ever having had it. Because there's a certain style of pizza from restaurants, very often owned by Greek American folks. And if you go in there, there was a place in Bellingham that Carrie and I used to go to all the time. I can't believe I can't remember the name, but it was exactly like a Spiro's and it's like a certain style of preparing the pizza. There's often some posters of like the Acropolis or something in the restaurant, but it's not Greek food. It's Italian food often run by folks who are Greek Americans. And I bet you Spiro's is part of that proud tradition.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think I mean, that is a definite thing that there are the Greek pizza places are different. I mean that there is one in our old neighborhood.

And of course, we always got they're all the same, too, in that I feel like if you get one, like if you would have had a slice of pizza from the place in Bellingham that we used to go to, which it's going to kill me that I can't remember to go like three times a week. I bet you if I did like a side by side with that and the one that was in your old neighborhood indistinguishable, maybe I'm not sure.

I always like I kind of like the Greek pizza places because they have more than just pizza there, like the one in my neighborhood. I think I had the pizza once, but often I'd go in for their version of a meatball sandwich, which was interesting. They sort of sliced these very big meatballs, so it was like meatball meat, but they weren't balls by the time they were served to you. Yeah, they would be flat. Yeah, it was very interesting.

That's what they would do at the place in Bellingham. I swear there's some kind of a shared brain syndrome amongst all of the restaurants that are kind of like this. And again, I love that kind of food for the record, but it's amazing that there's such a similarity there.

in my experience well i mean the similarity though i guess i'm a little confused by this it's kind of like well you go to any kind of restaurant that's a specific tradition and you expect a certain thing right i mean yes there are always outliers but if you go to like kind of a traditional um american chinese restaurant you're not marveling at the fact that the general that they both sell general gao's chicken right general gao's chicken well sometimes it's tao sometimes

it's gao general wow i didn't even know that i didn't know gao was an option i think so um um here here's the well i guess what i mean is there is no there isn't a category that people talk about other than what you just said and or maybe there is and i missed it you said greek style pizza or greek pizza it's like when you go to a chinese restaurant that is going to serve you americanized chinese food that i agree with you that's very much a thing and i wouldn't marvel that oh they'd make the egg rolls like that other place does but i feel like this is just this other a little bit more subtle thing which is a pizza place that is again typically run by by americans who are of greek descent who make the food in a very similar way but i didn't know that was a category i didn't know anybody else talked about like a category i think it is yeah i mean it's

probably because i'm more of a lowbrow guy but i've always been kind of drawn to these kinds of places like there was a greek pizza place in um concord that i would go to and i remember i have I have fond memories of the place, but also have it was more of like kind of a dinery almost kind of place, you know, just like very no frills. But I would go there sometimes and have my shame lunches. I remember it was during the I think I remember being in there and watching George W. Bush give his like his celebratory press conference after Congress swung his way. And he was talking about like all the political capital he has now or something. I just have these vague memories of like kind of in a post 9-11 world eating, eating too much and hating myself on a regular lunch break at this place. And they would always have the news on. And I remember being always angry by the news and getting indigestion. So but I also really liked the place. I it wasn't the place's fault. It was just like where I was and where the country was at that time. Anyway, here's the thing about the way.

Cascade Pizza is the place For our folks in Bellingham Who are throwing their phones It's Cascade Pizza up there And they have a few locations Up in the Skagit Valley area But man I sure love that place

I guess you know As I'm looking at Spiro's Pizza now though And this is what I was getting at There was something that I thought Was somewhat strange But seeing that they actually have Yeah what was it that stuck out to you They do have three locations actually So and they started in West Seattle It looks like in 1991 And now they're in Shoreline and Mukilteo And it was the Shoreline one that I saw And it was the Shoreline one

And maybe it changes knowing now that they're a mini chain, but I was driving up through Shoreline for some reason. And, you know, this place is right there on Aurora, everybody's favorite Strode.

I've been trying to explain Strode's left and right to people. I was trying to explain it to Becca the other day, and I don't know if I did a good job.

A listener sent me a half-hour documentary that specifically looks at Aurora the Strode. It was produced in like it was produced in like May or something. It's by this guy who goes around visiting cities and then commenting on their kind of infrastructure and transportation stuff. And he did one specifically on Seattle that I was watching and all of its strodiness. And there's a lot of interesting notes about like the reason there are a lack of sidewalks north of 85th or maybe it was. Yeah, I think 85th is because that's where the original Seattle line was. that was the original northern border of seattle is 85th i want to say maybe 90th and so it was all unincorporated north of there for a while now it's up to 145th but you still have like the patchwork of a sidewalk here no sidewalk there no like you know like kind of city planning interest well and

also you know the thing with 99 which you probably already know and it was probably mentioned in that mini dock or whatever it is 99 in seattle roer avenue was the only way to get through seattle going from, you know, north to south until they built I-5. Yeah, yeah. So it was thriving, and then one day they cut the ribbon on I-5 and everything just turned to shit.

Yeah, it is. And even that, it's still a disaster. Like, getting on, I'm sorry, this is getting into real local talk, and I haven't even tried to pay off my stupid Spiros point, which I don't think is a point anymore.

By the way, I am 100% rooting against the Houston Astrodes in this World Series.

that's right there the name um boy you know you try to get on 99 down in the fremont area and you make like a weird wrong turn because it's just like it just plows through the city and this it was planned out so terribly and i missed my turn and the next thing i know i'm heading south crossing a bridge and the traffic is backed up because i don't know if somebody i i hope i don't know something happened on the bridge that i think was not very good and so they had too so i was supposed to hop on north but instead i accidentally end up on south but as i'm going south and i can't get off this bridge i see that there's a huge traffic jam going north the way i need to turn around and go back because there was an accident or something and they closed down two lanes and like there was like no way i could get the map to tell me how to take surface streets back home without getting back on the aurora bridge it was just like such a nightmare the way they that and the five the way they just kind of plow through the city is pretty rough but yeah so i'm up and i'm up in shoreline i'm driving i'm probably going to costco i don't know i'm a suburban dad type now and i see the spiros or spiro's pizza on the left it's very there's not much to note about it just looks like a small little family restaurant you know fine like down the middle but then like practically next to it but not really in its property like there is maybe like across a small little road there is a giant billboard for Spiros and I just thought it was interesting like to have a giant billboard maybe I don't know 200 yards away from where your business is and it had something it wasn't about every breath we take but it seemed to be a pretty like forceful message about pizza I was like wow and I'm like why that's a weird thing to buy a billboard right by your business but okay and then I come home later that day or maybe it's the next day and we have a bunch of billboards kind of on the roads around us and i noticed practically across the street from us a few blocks away is a giant new billboard for spiros and i started to feel like i might be in a movie where like spiros is sort of like haunting me a little bit like everywhere i turn like why i was just curious if there was a like the world's least scary horror film just been haunted by delicious pizza and pizza billboards but neither of the billboards showed pizza and i don't remember what the message was on them it just had some sort of a weird almost cryptic like language and then just the pizza the spiro's logo and i'm just like am i catching the tail end of like a proud seattle tradition of spiro's where you don't even have to say anything you just see the logo and everybody runs out to spiro's but it sounds like that is not the case these guys just just had some money and wanted to expand and they thought the best way to get people in the door was to buy billboards it just seems like an interesting well the first one i

was wondering if it happened to be that the billboard was somehow technically on their

property i don't see that's why i said specifically i think it was across a road it was like i'm a

right so then that wouldn't be yes because you know if you obviously the oftentimes the person who owns the billboard or at least if you own the property somebody will come to you and say we want to build a billboard on your property Thank you.

and then we will kick you back you know some of the some of the money from that so i thought maybe they just had like easy access to this or it was already theirs in some way but but yeah that wouldn't make sense if it was across the road and i don't know to me and i don't know the history of this place i know they have one in silverdale that my folks go to sometimes in fact i've been there with my parents and it reminded me of my one of the interesting things about my folks which is how they um they always like to stop just short of the line of enjoyment on meals so it's like we're gonna get pizza but then it's like no one's getting soda and then i'm like i'll just spring for the soda mom like we're gonna let's just if we're gonna get pizza let's say let's wash it down with some carbonated bev you know um we went to that spiro's and i think it was really yummy

but um i don't know how old tio is that no that would be in silverdale huh they don't have that on their website they only have three locations listed then there's another spiro's yeah there's

a spiro's pizza and pasta in in silverdale that is i guess unrelated it might be unrelated let

me check out the logo anyway i'm making a boring story even less um less interesting here um oh

yeah to answer your question yeah i did not grow up in uh in the like the spiro's was not a was not it wasn't like alfie's which was alfie's you'd go there after you know your like soccer game or whatever there were some real kind of institutions of like local pizza and maybe just where i grew up but spears wasn't necessarily part of that um at that time just and if you're curious about like yeah it being some kind of seattle tradition that's so well known it's like chubby and tubby or something that you just you just say it and everyone kind of immediately has a childhood

memory i don't it wasn't like that for me boy i need to i didn't know about chubby and tubby but that sounds right up my alley right whether i'm eating at tubs or pudge brothers like i only like

eat at restaurants it was actually a hardware store that had every kind everything imaginable in it in fact it was at 85th uh excuse me 80th and aurora so okay now i think it's like um i don't know what that it's a paint store now but um it used to be and they had one down in the south end as well and it just was like it was sort of hardware but they also sold clothes and basketball shoes and slingshots and violet crumble candy bars and when i'd be working with my dad if i was doing a good job he'd be like okay here's a dollar run up to chubby and tubs and get a get get you can get a score bar whatever you want get me a violet crumble

like it was always fun to go to chubby and tumble this is new to i'm looking at this now it sounds like something like from a different era for sure but it looks like they might still

make it violet crumble what is i think it was australian that was kind of the um the sales pitch you know what it was like you ever had sea foam have you ever been like one of those candy shops where they it's it's sort of like or it's almost like it's a little bit like the

inside of a um of a whopper oh okay i like that it's like yeah malted that kind of dry almost like

um honeycombed type of thing that's very light but then if you put it on your tongue it immediately

starts melting yeah isn't that a malt isn't that what is inside of a yeah now the violet crumble

is a little different it's not exactly that but it's kind of like it's a sort of it's a very light uh kind of um material inside that's sweet and kind of buttery and it also starts dissolving as soon as it hits your tongue it was almost more just like the sensory experience of it also just one of those things that when your parents tell you something's cool and you're a kid you're like well now that is cool like everybody in my family loves violet crumble because like my dad got one one time at chubby and tubby and liked it

well i also like um first of all just one one thing on whoppers i haven't had a whopper in a really long time i don't like i kind of don't gravitate towards candy usually in all of my vices but man whoppers are a sleeper candy of mine like that's got to be if we're ever doing like a top five candy that's not really really i was gonna say is anyone even eating whoppers anymore oh wow isn't that a song where have all the whoppers gone i love a whopper i'm looking at these now and i think around easter time don't they make them in like kind of like egg shape form or something and uh and i think that that there's a lot of malted milk balls going around around easter time love them to death but also i was going to say there is also something about the fact that you got this violet crumble i gotta say that carefully because i keep i want to say violent crumble which is sounds like a punk band um that would be a great name for a punk band but uh actually could that be the show title today violent crumble i had what did i write down before i wrote the pizzocratic oath um uh what was i oh but there's something about food from a gas station that i feel is always like snacks from a gas station are a specific kind of snack right like you don't have the usual kind of candies at a at a did i say gas station i'm sorry i meant hardware store a hardware store food is just different it's like that's where vives and i discovered those um they're not local but they're like a regional uh a seasoned And...

pretzel brand oh yeah dots i want to say yeah like i had that for the first time at a at a hardware store and it just sort of seems like yeah violet crumble and dots belong in you know what's funny

hardware i was in home depot this weekend um because i had to rent a truck i'm driving a bunch of wood around and i walked past a bag of those dots and i was like dots pretzels and i was

like so close to snatching one they're good but they the flavor blast starts to make you feel

real bad real quick it's too much for me it's too blasted just a little bit too much a little less would be like i'm you know i was never a big pretzel guy but then hanging out with you and you're always you love those like rolled gold and stuff like that just a clean kind of come around

on it i'm part of the clean pretzel movement like i do like a dots here and there but it becomes too much and if you're too hungry you'll you'll snack too hard on them and feel kind of gross and your hands will be greasy what i like about just a standard pretzel whether it's a little pretzel twist or a little pretzel stick or what have you is like it's a great road trip food because yes it sort of fills you up but it doesn't leave you feeling greasy and gross right and i think i've made this argument before i feel like it's a decent like again on the road kind of breakfast snack because it's that much different than toast really you know it's like a little salty toast

no that's a really good point it's basically it's like if you just toasted it a little bit too long and rolled it up into a little stick or whatever folded it into a thing yeah I mean it's bread it's just basically it's just carbs by it in a slightly different presentation you know what I did yesterday during the football game because it was rainy and I've had grilled cheese on the brain lately it's like a weird football food but I just made like two of like the absolute best grilled cheese sandwiches I've ever had in my life and had a bowl of tomato soup and watched the Seahawks And I was just absolutely in hog heaven.

That sounds great. That raises the the conversation we had the other day about the proper way to cut a sandwich. And we really went into detail with it. But I think I was still pretty mesmerized that people care that much. Like, I just I think I've cut my sandwiches any which way but loose meat. That was a terrible joke. We'll scratch it. But like, I just don't care. But I was telling that story to Genevieve.

Clint Eastwood and orangutan run a deli.

It is. But Genevieve, like, I was telling her about it. She's like, oh, my God, what kind of a psycho would cut the sandwich from side to side like that? And I was like, are you serious? I really thought that article was exaggerating the mind bleep of cutting a sandwich from side to side so that the two sides aren't symmetrical. I just have never paid that much attention to it before.

But I guess it really did. I said this the other day, but I was with you. Like, usually there's a lot of Tempests and a lot of teapots on the Internet. We're all, you know, let's be honest. We're all looking to distract ourselves from our real problems. So people love to get worked up about something that's not really a thing. I will say when I saw the actual cut, a shudder went through me legitimately.

I watched the video and I had to like – I still had to have you explain to me what was wrong with what I was seeing.

But I think because of that video, because of us talking about it, it's just – I've just had – I even ordered – I ordered a grilled cheese sandwich. I had a grilled cheese sandwich on Friday, Andrew, at a place, and it was not satisfactory, so I had to make my own on Sunday.

What was wrong with it? Now, I'm not a big grilled cheese guy, but what was wrong with the one you had ordered?

Well, I can't. It was just a little bland. Now, Becca and I went to this hotel. There's one in Portland, and then there's one out in Bingen, Washington. So when I got done talking to you from the Skamania Lodge, we went over and visited my sister and my brother-in-law who are – they live out in kind of that part of Washington State and they're building a home out there and we were kind of checking out the progress and stuff. But we also swung by this shockingly designy and cool hotel called the Society Hotel in a pretty, I would say, not overly artistic or overly designy place called Binge in Washington, which is like a teeny bend in the road that's right off of the Columbia River. And this place, the Society Hotel, is just so adorable. So we got a little lunch there, and I ordered a grilled cheese sandwich and some tomato soup. and I loved everything about this place other than that the sandwich itself was just a little just kind of left me a little, it was a little bland and the soup as well Becca said, you know, she just was smelling it, she goes, that smells a lot like tomato sauce and I was like, yeah, it does you know how like tomato sauce is not tomato soup, there's a subtle

difference, so anyway

it was, everything was fine and I was perfectly enjoying it everyone should go to this place, I'm not trying to give it a bad recommendation, but i just had it in my head it was like grilled cheese sandwich and i had a loaf of bread around which i like don't usually have and i was like i gotta start doing something with this bread or it's gonna go moldy and so i just yeah i was like i got an onion So I diced up a bunch of onion and I, you know, I had sliced some tomato and just made two and I cooked it super low. Like I was just like watching these grilled cheese sandwiches like a hawk so that they would be so the cheese would be totally melted, but the bread would not be burned.

Let me ask you this. We are getting a lot of voicemails from listeners talking about the there's kind of simple sandwiches after we played Cheryl's voicemail, I think, last week, which was about just like a very simple egg sandwich, I think. and she also alluded to a pickle sandwich and i think we got a couple of voicemails i don't have them here in front of me now but um strongly suggesting a good grilled cheese sandwich like you just described luke but also including like uh pickle slices on there is that something you

would mess with because you love pickles well this is exactly my dilemma yesterday so i love onions on a grilled cheese sandwich i love tomato on a grilled cheese sandwich and i love pickle but i thought if i put all three of those items on in addition to the cheese it's going to be because that's what that was my plan going and i was like this is going to be too much other stuff yeah so what i decided was to do the tomatoes and the onions on the sandwich and then pickles on the side so i can take a bite of pickle and then take a bite of sandwich i deconstructed it a little bit but i was literally standing in my kitchen debating this exact question yesterday have you ever done that i didn't have the tomato and the onions i would throw pickles

on there in a heartbeat yeah i just gotta uh have you done that before then than that um that the you do you just take like a a full like a long pickle and you slice it yourself so it kind of extends across the bread or you'd buy those like little coins of sliced pickle i don't ever

buy those coins because i i only i tend to just eat vlap not vlasic um clausen pickles and i don't think they do the like burger chips or whatever so sometimes i'll buy the pre-sliced ones it just depends on what i have in the fridge i'll tell you what though becca got me a tomato knife that's i don't i think it's like six bucks on amazon or something and i don't know why we were talking she's an amazing amazing cook and we were talking about knives for some reason and i think a tomato knife had come up on like instagram or something she goes i got this one that's really cheap that i love and i was like really so she ordered it for me and gave it to me and i used it it's made by Victor Knox I used it to cut this tomato yesterday Andrew it changed my life I was like in an infomercial I wanted to go cut a boot in half and then cut the tomato like it I have like it cut the tomato so cleanly and perfectly and I could cut it into such thin such thin slices like it was the it was the most rewarding experience I've ever had with any kind of knife ever and I think it's like a seven dollar knife from Amazon now it's funny I'm typing in Victor

knocks and i'm seeing that we have uh two of these but this can't be the tomato knife these are very serrated i'm assuming a tomato knife is not serrated no it's serrated it is serrated okay

is it the kind that's what makes it that's that's what makes it great the problem with a non-serrated knife is if it gets a little dull you're trying to cut a tomato you kind of can't get you can't break the skin yeah but the serrated aspect of this is what really makes it just i mean just cut right through it like i just have it felt like i had so much control andrew like it was a really honestly i like immediately texted her and i was like this has changed my life this

like this tomato knife this is interesting i'm looking at various ones i don't know if we actually have victor knox but we might have a victor knox off because um boy i am i'm just throwing all out throwing it all out there today just terrible puns but um it might be a knockoff that we have, but it's definitely supposed to evoke this, because it's the, do you have the red plastic handle with the serrated knife? Mine is black,

but yes, a plastic handle, and then like a little

serrated blade. And does yours, I'm seeing some of these online also have, and this is not what we have, but also have like a little forked tongue at the end of it,

like a snake. No, mine doesn't have that. I don't know, I'm sure there's some functionality to that that I don't understand. I've never liked those kind of knives, by the way.

I've never, I don't think I've ever interacted with one. I don't know what the little pointies are for at the end.

That's what I was going to ask you. We would have those around the house sometimes, probably because all of our um even like our things in our kitchen you know we're all second hand so like i think my mama just picked a couple of them up but i never knew what that was one of the listeners will email and again i know there's a function for that obviously but um it always seemed kind of like i don't know uncanny to me or something like what do i do with this notch i just ignore it this is really

interesting though i mean it's interesting to me i don't know if we've done good work here by the listeners today it's a monday though so i think they should cut us a goddamn break but um i i uh i have you know we have two of these red knives and that we just keep them um just we kind of have a nicer knife set one of those um what's the german knife company no there's a german knife company that makes them in germany and then they make them uh i think somewhere else too and we have the German ones. Hankler, I want to say. or something along those lines anyway but to just like in our wood block we also have just two of these which i will now call tomato knives um that we just kind of bought separately and put in a couple of spaces where i think we might have lost some knives or something i didn't know that they were kind of a thing to me they were just like kind of classic little home knives but now i will refer to them as my tomato knives i didn't know that was a thing either like i said i was just

going through life i have a set of knives you know and i yeah cut things but i will i will tell Part of it is I don't think it ever occurred to me To use the serrated knife from my knife set One of the serrated knives to cut a tomato Yeah, me too And I think that really makes all the difference Like, I mean, anyway That's, as we say Six minutes of the listeners' lives They'll never get back On the subject of tomato knives But mostly I just want to I want you to take a picture of that Spiro's billboard Because I want to know what they're saying That's overly intense and pizza adjacent

The one by my house i think is gone already they just disappear they they rotate in and out so quickly um but i will i'll go i'll take a walk around the block later and see if it's still up there or not because it was like it was just weird it was like it wasn't intense it was just sort of like um cryptic i sort of thought and i thought oh maybe as an outsider i'm not getting it like our pizza's

the best and then a picture of a cheesy slice of pizza or something yes it was something that was

less obvious than that there's another billboard that's on the corner of i want to say green lake uh no not green green greenwood ave and 105th i want to say which is kind of a main intersection right there but there's a giant oh and that's kind of where you would be um getting near the grocery store we talk about all the time the qfc um if you can sort of picture that intersection luke and there's a giant billboard that just says in huge letters homelessness there's no call to action there's no phone number there's no name of a non-profit there's no it just says homelessness and I was at the light staring at that the other day scratching my head literally scratching my head which is I do I do that to think didn't come up with anything forgot about it but then I was passing that bill billboard with Genevieve the other day and I could be wrong but I think the word is starting to fade from right to left and so now it says homeless but the ESS is sort of fading outlook could i be losing my marbles or is is this some sort of a like a billboard that is saying erase homelessness and it's got disappearing ink i must be losing my marbles

right wow that's a great question like i mean i haven't seen it so i'm i really i wish i could say something informed on this but i can't but that's first of all just as a as a kind of um public notification it's a really interesting idea to just i could see the people who paid for this saying look we just don't want people to forget that this is a very serious issue in our city so we're just going to put the word out there it's not going to be a call to action it's not going to be a link it's just going to be a public reminder that in and of itself is an interesting approach but if in fact it's also doing something over time or they're going up and painting over it or it's not digital though so this is this is a good old fashion like big old like vinyl thing or like one of those like big wallpaper things that one the back is sticky and they put it up on there it's

like old school it seems like just like yeah it seems like an analog sign i am writing i'm writing a to-do list you have a lot of signs to go check out today my man yeah i know i need to go because i want to take a photo of this one and see first of all if it's disappeared more and secondly i want to get a photo of this and uh send it to you and then because i should have taken it the other night because then we can measure whether or not it's continuing to disappear

so anyway i got this will be great though if you could just establish listen establish where it's at right now and then you can go back a week from now two weeks from now this will be a plot point

on the show exactly thank god finally a reason for the listeners to tune in exactly um i did i seriously i've been wasting all of your time i did want to hear about your adventures with your cat

but maybe maybe after the break i mean i told you most of it it was just i was when she was

very little by the way how's bingo bingo's great bingo is actually chilling in the other room he

just couldn't be better he's so they grow up so fast i know he's great um when when uh bubbles was really little i was a little i think i would play with her but i was nervous about her lashing out and either biting me really hard or scratching me really hard and as i've become much more comfortable with her and i kind of know what her moves are and everything i've realized that she actually doesn't do that like she will bite my hand but not hard she'll just kind of like put it in her mouth like she understands that we're playing and and is not or she'll put it's very cute she'll put her her paw against me or against my face but her her nails won't be out you know what i mean it'll just be her like soft paw yeah like she'll just kind of like just like she's probing things so like

I now, because I'm super comfortable with her and messing with her and I have no fear of her attacking me, I now wind her up. I'll hold her upside down and play her stomach like a keytar. I just do all kinds of weird stuff with her because it's basically me and her and Dateline NBC in this apartment a lot of the time. Anyway, I've gone from being a little bit hesitant around messing with her to being probably sometimes taking it too far. And I did the other night because I was playing with her. This is on Friday night. I was playing with her and was just being really kind of roughhousy. And then she just some part of her brain snapped and she thought, oh, I'm on the Serengeti. I'm hunting a human who I live with. She just jumped out from under the coffee table, scratched the living ass out of my nose, my nostril and my lip.

And it was very painful. Oh, it does sound rough. I know you're talking about because bingo will kind of bingo is much smaller still. But still, like, he uses his hands and paws a lot. He has hands and paws. Now, he uses his paws kind of like hands a lot, like kind of to guide us. And again, his main characteristic is he's a snuggler. I mean, he's a kitten, so he loves to run around and play. We have toys out for him all over the place. And I've got his feather toy kind of leveraged in the couch. So he kind of has a perpetual feather to kind of bat around and stuff. But so he'll get his yaya's out. But mostly he then wants to just kind of snuggle on your lap. Um, but he'll kind of like take his little pause and kind of like, he likes to, um, he likes to use a pillow and he likes to use your body parts as a pillow. Like he'll, he'll kind of guide your hands so they can rest his head down. He is just the perfect goddamn cat for us, but every now and then like, but he does it so gently. He does it so gently, like you say, without the claws, but every now and then you're reminded, oh yeah, there are claws in there. And I mean, if he gets a little bit too if he gets a little bit too overstimulated, you got to be a little bit careful. I did want to mention today might be kind of a big day in our household cat wise because we're getting a dog now because we've had it's been a bit of an adventure bringing bingo into the house. We knew there were going to be issues with keeping the cats maybe separated at first, you know, our old cat, Professor Bananas and Bingo, and then kind of acclimating them slowly because Professor Bananas is a very, very, very anxious cat and we didn't want her to go to ground or feel overly anxious or whatever. But what we didn't realize was also Bingo was bringing some like kennel diseases into the house, too. He kind of had a gunky eye and also had like kind of a respiratory thing. So he was sneezing a lot. And I had told you this off air, Luke, and he had given that to bananas in the small interactions we let them have, maybe from sharing a food bowl or something. And so bananas this past week has been considerably sick, like not eating for a while and like had a pretty bad cough. But she's getting better and better in like the past two days. She's like back to her normal self, a little bit shy, but normal. And Bingo's eye is cleared up. So we think we've been keeping them totally upstairs, downstairs. But we think tonight when Genevieve gets home from work, we might let them just like leave the doors open. And let's let Bingo run around the house as he sees fit and see how Bananas reacts to that. So I will let you know tomorrow, maybe, if I don't use up all of my Bingo tokens. Yeah, exactly. For the week.

So, I mean, I feel like that'd be a good use.

yeah but that's a little that's a that's a real other than me just saying how much i love bingo which is true that's kind of an update as far as the drama is concerned yeah we're gonna be i'm

also glad to hear that bananas is feeling better because that was it was stressing me out for you yeah i'm not becca i was telling becca how like excited you were about bingo and i was like it's so cute to see i go she's really and i forget what she said to me something like oh is he like and i was like he's like posting pictures online or something and she was like laughing and she goes you know that's exactly what you do she goes if people look at your twitter feed they would think you have no girlfriend and are married to a cat it's like all right interesting yeah fair point it's just like it's just a string of of cat content so by the way i sent you something speaking of cat content if you're if you're if you're squeamish andrew don't watch the video i just sent you because it's it just shows my nose and my lip sort of bloodied from the cat okay um It's not gruesome, but if you're one of those... You know, there are some people that faint from the sight of blood.

Yeah, I'm not that bad. My own blood a little bit, but seeing you bleed... Are you kidding me? You bleed for me.

I know this is one of your favorite things. I'm watching this now. We've got to take a break. We're 45 minutes into the show. Oh, goodness. But then when we come back, we'll knock through these top stories, and we'll celebrate the fact that DK Metcalf doesn't need surgery. Oh, good. I didn't know that. I just said that 100% for your benefit. Nice. All right. Back with more TVTL in a moment. Thank you.

Thank you, baby.

All right, here I am. Sorry for the delay. No, that was our time, I think. When I get, like, sometimes if I do my exercise stuff right before the show, I will be real warmed up. And so I will actually put the AC on in the apartment so that it helps kind of cool me down more rapidly. But then by about midway through the show, I realize it's a freaking icebox in here. And so then I had to run into the other room Yeah it's like way too cold Like my body has You know has radiated off Whatever exercise heat there was And now I'm just like freezing So I had to run into the other room Turn the thermostat off or whatever you call it And run back in

I could have just waited for you

No that's okay I thought I could be quick

You did no you were on time Nobody would have known anything was up

I couldn't tell where we were in the song

Yeah, no, you're perfect.

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Oh, I hear Bozeman might be kind of nice, too. Bozeman's great. Yeah, that's what I hear.

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I thought that was going to be Canton, Ohio, of course

I didn't even know there was a Canton, Massachusetts

Football Hall of Fame, right? NFL Hall of Fame is in Canton

Well, that's the Ohio one, right?

Oh, yeah, I'm sorry, oh, you didn't know there was a mass Yeah, I don't know, maybe this has come up on the show before

I wonder if Canton, Massachusetts Has a different Hall of Fame

Like a foosball Hall of Fame

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Another twist. Another Ohio, but it's not Ohio.

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I was just even thinking about that As we thank these donors

Injury on my lip If I'm wearing lipstick in the presentation I just want you to know that's why

This does Black lipstick would kind of cover it up I'm entering my goth face Yeah and it's the spooky season And yeah, the listeners should be in on this because this is about them. In fact, it's their fault that we have to do extra work this week. No, but we have like kind of what monthly departmental meetings with our podcast brethren at APM. And usually I think usually I'm just kind of in the shadows during those meetings. But they asked you and I to do a little just a little check in and a little chat about kind of listener engagement and how we have kind of special listeners who are like. um very engaged with the show in ways that other shows are you know could maybe take a lesson from and so that that speaks to the um thing that speaks to the heart of our audience i mean what again my advice for them will be i don't know try to draft off of something that luke and jen set up years and years ago that's that's my talking point i i my i mean that's the thing

that's really funny about tbtl's place in the lore of like american public media is nobody i mean we have a lot of really awesome colleagues and people who love the show and are very supportive our friend john our friend annie lots of folks but there's also this other kind of like people that we don't work with as closely or who are like many levels above us in terms of like management flow chart who just are like these two guys are just talking about like pizza billboards for hours and hours a week but then there's this group of people that like that enough that they're giving their hard-earned money so that it can keep happening and they're constantly perplexed by how this is working and so occasionally they'll bring us into some kind of meeting to try to explain it. And we don't even really understand it. We're just grateful for it.

So, yeah, boy, you describing today's show in that way really makes me want to redo the. Can we? No, that wasn't. No, no, no. But you're right. Like, I'm now suddenly hearing like today's show because this is what will happen on the occasion that you and I do something that is going to like kind of bring attention to our show amongst our colleagues, many of whom we've never met before. You know, there's a lot of like produce newish producers who've come in over the past couple of years who work on their own projects. And I see them as maybe avatars during these meetings or if they have their camera on. But there may be, after we do this little presentation on Thursday, an interest in our show amongst our colleagues at 8 p.m. So we got to, I guess, do Wednesday and Thursday have to be good shows because those are the shows to listen to leading up to this. But I'm also thinking, like, they might listen to Friday's show after we give our three good shows in a week.

Andrew, do we have anything in the can? I don't know. Let's get Phyllis on. Do we have any old shows? Do we have like, how about the last radio show where I was doing the running man in my underwear through the studio? Where we did karaoke. We were wasted and did karaoke for an hour on the air.

On the air. That's how you develop.

That was a gift that we gave the management of Cairo was making them very, very confident in their decision to fire.

That's right.

We wanted to remove, because, you know, we had folks showing up outside the building. People made signs. Like, it was an amazing scene, and there could have been a chance that maybe, you know, the Rod father, Rod Arquette, like, saw that and was like, oh, I've made a huge mistake. But then he turned on his radio and was like, no, no, that was the right call. Yeah, absolutely. 100% the right call.

What you did was you lowered the bar so that Frank Shires could run. Wait, I'm messing up my—you walked so Frank Shires could run. No, I running man so Frank Shires could run. like anything he did would have been an improvement

hello and welcome to top story um just quickly on the subject of halloween season being here uh there was a story in the washington post today about the fact that um halloween candy is getting smaller and some of it is due to shrinkflation which is just basically manufacturers are reducing the size of the products that they're selling instead of raising the price they want to still sell you the bag of mini snickers for close to what you're used to paying for it but they it's it's more expensive for them than it was and so they just are selling you there's less snickers in the bag of mini snickers but then another part of it actually the reason these things are getting smaller is because of a push from the federal government to uh you know have things be sort of calorically um less intense in other words the national confectioners association uh last month announced that 85 percent of chocolate and candy sold today comes in packaging that contains 200 calories or less per pack and nearly 100 of candies now sold have a front of pack calorie label um which is up from only half of that in 2016 so basically the uh we're they're trying to reduce the number of calories we're all eating and part of that is not selling us as many calories although i kind of slightly call bs on that like i still think to me that's a little bit similar to the um you know can you please reuse your towel in the hotel room so we can save the whales and listen i've done a story about halloween candy i went to the mars factory outside of chicago where they actually make most of the fun size candy that comes out they're all very nice people i don't i don't resent any of them specifically but of course if i'm a company and i can sell you less of my product and charge the same amount and claim that i'm doing it for your health that's a pretty good deal for the company or even claim that you're doing it because

of economic forces because and i'm looking for the stats here you got to be a little bit careful when people just sort of tweet out whatever but somebody on i think it was instagram or twitter it might have even been american public media executive john sklaroff who um pointed out that like the profits for the mars company and the executives who uh work there like there is no shrinkage in their in their profits like there is not like well we we have to make them smaller because the boy because of joe biden's inflation it's like no fuck you you were making more money than you ever did and it's like you mean joe brandon yeah sorry it's just like i don't know i mean these these uh industries just do have been doing this for years they claim that that's economic forces but like they're not tightening their belts at all like they're making record profits and this applies to a lot of industries well and even i was hearing a story

over the weekend, they're finally doing some analysis on the PPP loan. that went out to so many people and like businesses yeah and small businesses and you know like i look my dad got one you know he's got a sign company and it was people weren't buying signs because they were freaked out so you know uh i i think that that was really necessary at the time but because it needed to get pumped out so quickly it turns out that massive amount of it just went to companies that were not they were like huge companies and they were not actually suffering an economic decline because of their specific business model wasn't pandemic i mean there were a lot of companies that were totally affected by the pandemic and again i think overall it was it was good that they acted quickly instead of waiting around and letting a bunch of stuff die but the thing that was a bummer was this this was a i think an mit professor who's been looking at it and his contention was it turns out that like i forget what the exact stat is but it was like the vast majority of that money ended up in the hands of people who are pretty well off in one way or another yeah some of it was vital and and absolutely necessary for keeping some businesses afloat but it just like most things in this country the rich tend to get richer and the people who have resources are able to avail themselves of getting more resources and then growing their company or growing their profits and then not paying the loans back and it just ended up being something that unfortunately like so many things benefited people who are already doing pretty well not enough of it got down to the people who could really use some more money

well i mean what was jared kushner gonna do if he didn't get those ppp loans you know i have to say

uh speaking of joe brandon i got to give him some credit because he was uh i think it was around the student loan debate he was saying he just got up on stage and was first he would quote like what marjorie taylor green said about student loan forgiveness and then he would quote the exact amount of ppp money that like her you know i think she used to own a gym or something oh okay like got you know lauren bobert got like they all got it like any anybody in congress who had some sort of business they were running on the side was availing themselves of this as a lot of people were but it was actually pretty i thought it was like good um you know stagecraft uh-huh for him to just be like here's the quote and then here's how much money they got yeah yeah yeah that is

good you know honestly he's not so bad when the gloves come off honestly i think i mean he's always right he's a little he's still prone to misspeaking it makes you it makes you anxious as somebody who doesn't want to see him make a mistake that throws this country and throws the pendulum so far the other way that we're we're desperate for democracy again but um i'm kind of

sanguine about that stuff because with him because i feel like the people who are flying the let's go brandon flags already think that he's drinking the blood of unborn babies yeah right like nothing he does like if he has a gaffe it's like nothing can lower their opinion of him it's not like they're like hmm and maybe i should be more thinking about the sort of voters who are you know more like on the fence or moderate so maybe that is a real thing did you see that piece i think it was also in the washington post basically talking about all of the lies that joe biden tells like but they're all kind of just like exaggerations and like he tells a story about being arrested at civil rights you know in a civil rights protest but they can't find any record of him ever really arrested and he like and they just they went through this list of like and they're all i mean again because i am terrified of donald trump becoming president again i'm like the way that it strikes me is he's an exaggerator he's been a politician for a long time he's folks he's a back slapper and he plays with the truth around things that are not significantly important but they just went through and listed like a whole bunch of things that he says that are pretty much provably not the case that's that that making stuff up though that's a bummer now this is a

weird this is a very strange place to take this the candy conversation you know let me do this really really quickly and then we can do your top stories no no i'm good i'm candy um but um vives and i were just talking about this kind of in depth on after these messages how we got there I don't know, but did you, were you familiar with the fact that one of the main characters, one of the main actors on the show, The League, just lied about being in the towers in 9-11, and then, like, he just eventually just had to quit the show, and then the show ends up kind of going away. It might have been winding down anyway, but, like, his name was, I had to look it up here, Steve Ranazzisi. Yeah, Ranazzisi, if I'm saying that correctly, I might be saying it. But like, yeah, he was in New York. He worked in like the banking sector or something, but he was not. He worked at Merrill Lynch, but he claimed that he was in the South Tower and he came out to L.A. and it sounds like he moved out to L.A. not long after the attacks. And so my guess is he's maybe getting work as an actor. He's meeting new people and everybody's like, wow, you just got back from New York. Were you were you there? And I guess he just started exaggerating. But like and then eventually just straight out lying. And then when it comes up, you know, in interviews with him and he's a famous person at this point, he's just like telling these.

about what it was like to be in the tower and he wasn't in the tower and like now i will only think of him for that lie what it yeah what is strange i'm somebody who like i just hate lying because it gives me as i mean because it's not the right thing to do obviously but also it just makes me anxious like i i'll i'll be overly honest about my weaknesses and lack of interestingness um just so that i don't get caught in a lie because the idea of trying to keep those lying plates spinning just you know makes me anxious but like i just can't imagine just going around just making this shit up out of whole cloth and same with biden too if that's true that he's like claiming that he was arrested but there are no like there's no records of him being arrested for civil rights protests like is this something where he was there and his friends were arrested and he's legitimately confused about it or is he just my guess is that my guess is that there's a little

kernel of truth in a lot of these things he says but he's just been saying them for so long like i believe when there was um something going on with puerto rico he said this is i'm just paraphrasing from what i remember from this piece he said something like you know i got my start in politics with puerto ricans in you know um delaware like that's who that's who raised me or something and then they went back and were like we could find no evidence of him being raised in the puerto rican scene in delaware back in the day or whatever like yeah he just he the way that his staff tried to describe it is he wants to connect with people and so when he's in a room he's trying to basically find some story in his mind which you know maybe he knew like one puerto rican guy who was running for councilman or something back in the day but like and he probably did attend civil rights protest was he arrested that's not provable you know like i think he's he he wants to connect with people and he and and he does it through kind of telling these tales which i don't i mean at his age i don't know if he remembers i don't think in his mind he thinks i'm lying like i don't think i don't think he's the kind of person that would stand up there and say something and in the back of his mind he's like god i hope they buy this like i think he's repeated these stories so long that they just he thinks they're true which isn't really an excuse but um uh yeah so that's you know that's kind of a bummer and then i'm but then this is this is the problem andrew this is the problem with how sort of critical this next like the midterms feel and then the presidential election feels to me it's like i'm almost mad at them for writing the article i'm just leave it alone don't come on yeah really do you think is this what we should be focusing on i mean the guy that's gonna the guy that wants to replace him trump is lying about much more fundamental things like then was he raised in the puerto rican political scene you know in delaware or whatever like so i don't know i mean i don't think any of us were like god i hope we get joe biden for president but he's the guy we've got now yeah i mean we were hoping it was him instead of trump obviously but the only thing the reason i wanted to bring up the candy topic really was to ask you andrew now that you're on a a residential street are you do you and veves have plans are you going to have candy out what's the what's your halloween oh that's a good point

well you know i'm not you know i'm not the halloween person in this family even for even but aren't you the give candy to cute kids no no we've talked about this before i one time when i was living in new hampshire and we had a very like very neighborhoody vibe right small town new england kids yeah i've seen that house i remember one time genevieve was you know genevieve loves giving out candy on Halloween and I remember driving home very slowly because there were so many kids in the streets but like going home and literally like I am like an evil character from a TV show or a movie like I drew the blinds and turned off our lights like I do not feel like spending my evening answering the door every half hour or ten five to thirty minutes. That really surprises me because I feel like you like kids. I like kids okay. I don't feel I get no pleasure out of the idea of of that um but um if genevieve's home i'm sure you know that's funny i wonder if she's thought about that aspect of it she already has attended two different halloween events i think one was like maybe halloween bingo not the cat the game guys um and then she went to a halloween party this weekend and she dressed up as she and our friend katie went as two young women from the tv show that's all i got what is the tv show yellow jackets i got there yellow jackets they were like soccer players i think so yeah um you've got special glasses and a wig and special like uh she actually got a yellow jackets like jacket like i i guess they were making it specifically and and but i don't really get the references at all because i've never seen that

did you watch yellow jacket i watched like the first two episodes and

i um i enjoyed it it had the problem was it had already reached this fever pitch in terms of the the hype for it so i think i went in with i went in with expectations that were that were unrealistic and then i think i got distracted watching something else but i do i mean people love that show and i think it's got a really obviously a really great cast and there's like a kind of i think it's sort of um sort of genre breaking in a way because it's this you know soccer team where they basically went feral on each other after a plane crash and now they're living in modern life um and trying to kind of make make sense of what happened out there in the woods when shit got really weird so i think it's a cool idea for a show but um well i'm excited by

the way you should be excited too to know that i um that i will be watching severance soon i will be starting it took me forever but i finally finished all three seasons of the boys uh i don't like kind of binging two different shows at once so i was holding off on severance and now a year late i will be watching severance that's next i'm already worried that it's too i'm already

worried that it's like it's been overhyped so just i mean try to try to moderate or you know your tamp down your expectations but i don't want to belabor this but i i and you're saying we've talked about this before so i'm assuming we have but i am i'm genuinely like i know that you weren't you didn't want to have your own children that you raise and are responsible for but i just think you're great around kids you're great around pets you're a kind person i would totally think that you would be excited to like score some like our friend john sklaroff apm executive our boss john our boss john sklaroff i just saw on like instagram that he was like i'm fulfilling a childhood fantasy by purchasing full-size candy bars for kids on halloween yeah dude like that was the dream when you were a kid even though i didn't get to trick-or-treat because my parents weird christianity but like you were hoping that there was at least one house that was given out full-on candy bars i would just imagine that you would kind of like have a fun time getting buying a bunch of fun-sized candy and kind of like you know i don't know just sitting by the door and admiring the costumes and just being it just seems like something you would like it's

interesting that you you actively don't like that yeah i mean i just don't care like i don't know i actively dislike it i don't really care about costumes i um if i children if i have a you know my if i have a night to myself i'll be down here in my office playing some dumb video game on a map or something you know i mean i don't feel like getting up and down and like answering the door every five minutes or you know i don't know i can't explain it it holds absolutely also maybe it has to do with the fact that i didn't trick or treat as a kid so like it doesn't connect me to any maybe that would be maybe that would be a difference if i was somebody who grew up in in kind of a nice little neighborhood where we trick-or-treated, then I'd feel more like John, which is kind of like a connection to my past. But I grew up in the country. We didn't trick-or-treat. Like, we'd go to a Halloween party at school. I remember always being pretty uncomfortable in whatever costume I was in. I told you about the time Elizabeth Carroll's mom. I finally – all I ever wanted to be was a ghost. I liked the idea of just being like a Charlie Brown-style ghost. And my parents would like put us in more kind of elaborate costumes. I know that we had a Frank, a rubber Frankenstein mask. So they decked me out as like Frankenstein a couple of years in a row with like a leather, not a leather, but like a denim jacket with shoulder pads and what have you. And but I was always like, I don't want an elaborate costume. I just want to cut two holes, two eye holes in a bed sheet, put it over my head and be like, just a metaphor for how you move through the world.

Right. I just want to be in the background with no frills. I don't want anyone staring at me. I just want to be a ghost.

And do you know how this story ends? It's still one of the most tragic stories of my life, which really will tell you a lot about my life. No, it wasn't bullying or anything. It was this overbearing mom of a classmate who was like, you know, one of the room mothers, as I think we called them back then. Or maybe she was in the PTA. I don't know. She was like my mom, very heavily involved. And it was Elizabeth Carroll's mom. And, you know, no disrespect to the Carroll family that I have to out you here. But I remember one year I finally and I'm still in elementary school here. Let's put this at maybe fifth grade or something. I'm fine. I finally talk my parents into just like letting me wear a sheet so I can be a ghost. And I cut two little eye holes and a little slit, I think, for the mouth. And I show up and Mrs. Carroll, who, again, was kind of a very big personality, says, you can't breathe in that thing. and puts her fingers in the ghost mouth and rips it open. And all of a sudden, my ghost costume, she just ripped my goddamn costume open.

Is that why you're Batman now? Like, literally, at night?

Yes.

Like, you patrol the city? Like, that's an origin story right there.

I go around sewing up people's ripped costumes.

Oh, that's why you're the bad guy in a Batman, the sewer. You go around just sewing people's mouths.

clothes that's my evil laugh as i go around sewing with my sewing needles no but i just remember being like and then i felt super exposed you're right probably part of this was i didn't want people looking at me net i i spent the rest of the day with my sheet in my mouth trying to keep the mouth hole closed that she had ripped open sucks yeah so i don't i don't have good associations with halloween i don't spend a lot of time thinking like oh i wish i had had different halloween experiences i just don't care you know well the funny part is neither of us had

particularly great halloween experience because i like i mentioned was not really allowed to trick or treat because my parents thought halloween was demonic but for some reason when i was like four or five we lived um by we lived in the north gate area actually they decided maybe peer pressure from like neighbor kids or something they decided i was allowed to go trick or treating but i've told the story a million times but the rules for my parents were i had to dress like a biblical character oh right yeah yeah like i couldn't be a demon or something that's right yeah so i was oddly enough what they came up with was roman soldier as in just put jesus on the cross guy because i had this like helmet the space helmet thing that my dad modified into being like what the centurions would wear like i don't know whatever the bible lore of what those and he made me a armor out of um cardboard that was like painted so it looked like i was wearing like a chest plate and like whatever but the rule was i had to be a bible character i had to collect money for unicef and i guess maybe i was also allowed to get candy but i had to also ask like can you donate to unicef first house we got to the woman pulls the door open and she has a cauldron that's got like dry ice in it or something and she's dressed like a witch but she's dressed very realistically like do you remember that um hr puffin stuff like the magic flute yeah yeah like

Very, like, heavy, like, clay-ish makeup.

Yes, and also, like, what were the – I forget the names of the two people that were kind of behind that. Sid and Marty Croft, was that?

Oh, that sounds right off the top. I'm not looking up.

But, like, the witch from – there was, like, some kind of weird after-school show that was, like, the magic flute. And there was, like, a witch trying to get the flute. And it scared the living Tweedle out of me as a little kid. And this woman looked exactly like that. I mean she probably just had on a bunch of you know a fake mole and a fake nose and it scared the shit out of me as a kid and I just dropped my unicef box and ran directly home and got under the bed that was that's the extent of my trick-or-treating like pretty much in my life that was it well that was it and then and then in subsequent years my parents never just never let us I don't know if I didn't ask again or if I was too afraid of it or what but like yeah trick-or-treating was not at all part of my childhood. Now, it was part of Addie's, and I used to take her trick-or-treating a lot, and also to those trunk-or-treats where everyone pulls up in a parking lot with candy in their trunks and stuff, or school harvest parties. I just always, personally, I like to just see what the kids get dressed up as. I like to mean-mug the teenagers who aren't in costume. I still give them candy, but I let them know they're on notice.

For being teenagers. Really?

Come on. And you're not, you know, go to go to CVS and just get a get a crappy wig or something. You know, come on, let's put a little effort into this.

It looks like Halloween is on a Monday. That's a week from today. So that seems like a good day for trick or treating. I don't know if our neighborhood or if the neighborhoods around here have specific days that are designated, but I sort of feel like a Monday night makes sense. If it was a Friday or a Saturday, it might be like – I feel like it might be more of a coordinated day or something. Does that make sense to you? I sort of feel like a Monday is like, oh, everybody's at home anyway, so you can parade the kids around the neighborhood.

I wonder if you'll get any – because I also – any kids, probably a few. Again, I think what you'll probably get literally are some tweens that are just like, let's get some candy. Let's get that bread. As opposed to like Adorable child dressed up like a princess Or like a little you know Baby shark or whatever

Yeah there are some little kids on our block Actually now that I picture Not that I've met personally But I see them going for walks with their family or whatever They would be the right age But again who knows if they're into it Or if they do trick or treating here or elsewhere I don't know I'm just going to give away apples and toothbrushes And then not have to worry about it for as long as we live here

i'm actually trying to start up a fentanyl business andrew so i thought the way i would do it would be to give away product for free but make it so no one knew where it came from they're they're by not in any way increasing my business profile right exactly and putting it in the candy that's kind of my approach like that's like that is the most ridiculous like people thinking that that people are putting fentanyl in their in people's kids halloween candy like I promise you if someone has

a bunch of fentanyl the last flippant thing they're doing is giving it away for free it feels

like a very 80s panic sort of i feel like totally like razor blades that was when i was a kid it was like they're gonna put razor blades in the apple it's like what is it about well we don't have time

to get into it but like well no offense who am i saying no offense to not to bring this up because i'm you know i'm sure i'm i've enraged the listeners but it's sort of like the it's like the human trafficking thing it's like yeah there are real bad things that are happening in the world but then there's a set of people that it's almost like they just need to be worried about something and it's like i was i was emailing with a listener about this uh today and i was saying like because the other day we had that conversation and about human trafficking and how i was saying it's definitely very very real and have very much happens but also there's this kind of set of folks who i think it's going to happen to them and i think the chances are pretty unlikely you know tend typically affluent typically white women of a certain age and this weekend becca said that her friend who is also by the way doing her own research on the vaccine and who is a very very in the demo i'm talking about was during their jog was telling her all about the attempts at human trafficking that are going on involving her extremely um well well guarded whatever five six year old daughter like they're gonna try to human traffic avery and it's like no they're not that's

not that's not how this is happening so it is funny how sometimes the people who live in areas and i'm sorry i need to speak somewhat coded here because i don't want to hurt any feelings but like um in my personal life so i'm not thinking of any listeners here if this ends up cutting a little bit close to the bone but like there are people who i know who live in like literally the safest situation you could possibly imagine from the the beige sidewalks on you know if you can picture who literally are the scaredest people i know who will not answer the door if if they're home alone like in just like the suburbian most suburbs uh ever and it's just kind of like and i'm i'm always very astounded by that you know um and so it is it is it does seem like it's kind of a person who i guess maybe part of the paranoia makes you create a life for yourself where you are not exposed to stuff but i also think it's like a lack of exposure to kind of real world experiences or gritty experiences that then make some people think that the world is a very very very scary place and that everybody is is out to get them well yeah and it drives a lot of

unfortunately i think it drives a lot of policy in terms of how we police places and it i do i would say that my my hunch i don't have i don't have a bunch of data to back this up at the tip of my fingers but my hunch is that people who are living in areas that have incredibly low crime rates some of those people spend an inordinate amount of time worrying about crime and even though the the data says that they're very like very unlikely to be the victim of it and yet it takes up a real it's sort of like how there are people in states where there's almost zero immigration like it's a landlocked state it's not near any of the borders or anything and their biggest issue is illegal immigration it's like really in you know i don't know fill in the state that like it's just not one of the places that folks are like crossing a border to get into

oh like like the the like the um what's the word i'm looking for piece of shit who's running for senate here in washington state and i i heard her uh or i saw tiffany smiley yeah i was gonna avoid the the name but um not out of anything other than i just don't want it in my mouth but um like honestly like blaming shit i'd also say swerve on that literally like showing an empty swing on a playground swinging in a commercial and saying that it's because of patty murray's border policies that children aren't safe in washington's parks like are you shitting me with that racist like just straight up racist bullshit like i was i was about the one where she's standing in front of a starbucks i can't even begin i think the one that's right by where you and vives yeah yeah it is and it's got like but she's she's not even standing in front of it she's standing in front of a green screened image of a starbucks that closed oh by the way it was one of the starbucks that was having a union a union effort a union organization effort and starbucks is closing those locations but she makes it sound like you can't get a cup of coffee on

capitol hill anymore because failed washington policies have led to her not because you know that was the place tiffany smiley used to get her coffee 100 for sure yeah i have to capitol hill

go to that starbucks oh just it's just and i hear that race is tightening up i'm obviously livid yeah so anyway what about tootsie rolls do you like tootsie rolls in your i've never been a

tootsie roll guy they're a little now i like this i like the suck like the you know the what do you call it the lollipop or something like how many licks does it get to get to the middle the pop The Tootsie Pop, I guess they would call it Those I really liked But you know, honestly, the middle part Which is, I think

Just basically Tootsie Roll I've never liked that part I've never cared about that part And I've never been that into Tootsie Rolls As a candy They were a little waxy for me

Well let me ask you this If you're going to get a Let's say you're young Luke And you have the option of getting one of those Big lollipops where either in the middle There is a Tootsie Roll Or in the middle there is gum What do you choose?

Oh a Charms Blow Pop I mean every day of the week and twice on Sunday blow pop yeah me too yeah charms blow pop was i loved that thing so so much i can feel it now that

i haven't had it in since i was a child but i can feel the sensation of you get to that gum in the middle but there's still chunks of candy in there so as you pull it off the stick and you start chewing it it starts with little crystal little bits of crystallized candy in the gum when you

start to feel the difference in like your tongue starts to note that it's not just the hard candy anymore but there's a little bit of the gum layer is breaking through yeah I'm telling you

Tiffany Smiley wants to take away our blow pops and we can't let her vote for Paddy Murray on Thursday

when we're trying to explain what makes TBTL so special we need to use this part because I honestly think there are listeners right now that are like oh my god I know exactly what they're talking about I know exactly what it feels like to break through the various layers of a charms blow pop

here I go once again with the email Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man. It's not from a female.

All right. Email or V-mail?

Um, yeah. Oh, okay. I have, if we have time, I'd like to play two here. But let me play one. This first one is going to send us pretty deep into some nerdy territory. But I think a lot of our listeners will be along for the ride. But it all stems from the fact that I made a mistake on a show last week when we were briefly talking about the Marvel Cinematic Universe and how a lot of the Marvel movies don't really seem appealing to me anymore now that the sort of the end game story arc sort of came to a conclusion but I also made some comment about Aquaman and I mentioned how I'm not into Marvel movies and a bunch of people have pointed out to me that Aquaman is not a Marvel character which of course I realize that. That's on me by the way

I brought up Aquaman, you just said James Corden should be an undersea king or something and then I put us on Aquaman

That's how we got there. Yeah. But I didn't catch it either. But of course he is DC. But, you know, I probably wouldn't. I probably wouldn't catch that five times out of 10 anyway. So I'm not super embarrassed about that. But what I thought was really interesting is we did get. And speaking of John Sklaroff, who's come up several time on today's show, he he works with us, of course. And he is deep, deep in into the Marvel Universe and the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And he also knows how fragile our feelings are. So he didn't call in and say, hey, dummies, Aquaman belongs in the DC universe, not Marvel. Get it right. Instead, he found a way to bridge the two worlds and, most importantly, keep my feelings from being too hurt.

Hey, guys, APM executive John Squarrow calling in. I just want to say in regards to your guys' conversation around Marvel Cinematic Universe and all that, It's really interesting that you brought up Aquaman and Wakanda forever because at the intersection of those two is Namor the Sub-Mariner, and Namor is the Marvel equivalent of DC's Aquaman. He's like the analog to Aquaman, who's a part of the DC universe.

See, that's just such a subtle correction there, right?

I have to say also, by the way, no offense to Marvel, but, like, Aquaman, right? Like, that just tells you everything you need to know. Aquaman, he's a man, but he lives in the water. May I introduce you to Namor the Sub-Mariner?

I don't know. John's going to make a good argument for Namor the Sub-Mariner here. Oh, and by the way, I did want to say, and we'll get back to John. John, just calm down. We'll get back to you in a second.

Just because you're an executive at APM doesn't mean you get to just bullcharge your way through the show.

Just because you're going to set up a special meeting and put me on a disciplinary track. I was going to say, I did finish that show, The Boys. I don't know if I can recommend it to you, Luke, knowing that you're not huge into superhero and comic book worlds. But it is incredibly violent. It is ridiculously violent. But it is one of the best kind of social commentaries about kind of like kind of like the Trump's America and like a lot of the stuff that we talk about. And it's all through the lens of these really shitty kind of superheroes. But it is all about like who we who we put on pedestals and who we see as heroes and misinformation and how and it ends up being like the show, while it's also very entertaining and also, yes, very bloody and a very adult show. I also think it's like really, really good kind of.

cultural and social criticism. So I don't know if anybody was on the fence about that, but that's my review of the boys. I highly recommend it. If that sounds like something you might be interested in now back to Namor,

there's some differences. DC's Aquaman is, um, yeah, I think my thing, he's always like always good guys in the justice league. He's just like a good dude. Whereas, uh, Namor is, you know, often like the anti-hero, sometimes the antagonist, uh, not always doing good stuff. often does good stuff he's a little more complicated i think in that regard and i won't say anything to potentially spoil the wakanda forever movie but his history with wakanda and the comic books is fraught um and this is his first cinematic uh appearance so i think people are really excited to see namor and i understand your point of like things have been fractured since the end of endgame there's been some highs there's been some lows it seems like marvel's kind of gets footing under itself again but hopefully hopefully uh wakanda forever like really uh gets people more excited about the mcu um again going forward and can like really be the thing that that drives it uh but yeah so yeah good good good job on the aquaman and wakanda forever

because uh kind of close good job kind of close um i uh that that job kind of close I think I'll take it that's our motto I that really turns me around I really now want to see what I was our as we had that conversation I started to realize well that might be an exception maybe I do want to see that movie because you know there were a lot of good characters in there so that universe will still be good even though Bozeman Chadwick Bozeman with us but but yeah so that does kind of like oh yeah you kind of you got me there John so I will watch that I wanted to tell you something Luke I don't I've literally I literally don't think I've ever been as disappointed in missing a movie in the theaters as I was this Friday I thought that I would take Genevieve to the theater to watch confess Fletch we talked about how the yeah the what's his name John Hamm is now playing Fletch a lot of people only think of it as a Chevy Chase vehicle but it's actually kind of a series of these pulpy books from the 70s and 80s that I used to enjoy, and I was really excited that they were going to take a, not serious, but a slightly less hammy approach to the Fletch stories, and the fact that, ironically, it's Jon Hamm playing that character seemed absolutely perfect to me, and it seemed like the absolute perfect movie for me to watch in a theater. That was so up my alley. And apparently, I missed it! Apparently it was in theaters and out, and it must have opened much sooner than I thought i saw no advertisements for it i only knew about it because john ham was a guest on a podcast and he talked about it i totally misconfessed fletch it took me hours to get over the fact i was i've been so looking forward to the day i would see that in the theater

now is it streaming i know you want to see it in the theater is the point but is it also

streaming somewhere it i think it's i was looking it up on friday i was so bummed it seems to only be streaming on showtime i think it's a showtime and i don't know listen i have ways of getting my hands on media we don't have to talk about it here let's just say me and walt burbank we went to the same school of fishing for content but like i can get it but like i really i don't know man i i really really enjoy going to the theater i you know i know that the theaters are not in great shape as business models these days especially after the pandemic i don't think that they're making things for the theater going experience i don't know how if i don't know if i'll have like access to theaters the way we do now for the entirety of my life as more and more of this stuff goes directly to streaming and so i like to take advantage of those and i can't explain it to you how this just felt like the perfect going to the theater movie for me like something not super serious but i'm actually really interested in seeing what they do with the universe i could smell the popcorn it was just the perfect little cozy i'll bet you it's exactly 90 minutes i don't know but it doesn't feel like it's going to be some bloated movie it just seemed like perfect for me and i missed it so i might i'll probably watch it at home because i am really curious about it but like my attention span at home is i don't usually watch movies at home i just don't i just don't have the attention span i i'm gonna paraphrase

a tweet that i saw a while ago so this will probably go pretty well but somebody wrote something the effect of like this is definitely the future of hollywood that we all imagined me googling what streaming platform is yeah this movie on yeah and then trying to figure out if it's one of the nine that i'm paying yeah right yeah really does it feels like what it is now like you know i mean there's a movie theater down the street for me and i could i go there i guess but it mostly now for me is just where is i'm just always googling what is that streaming on and then i'm checking if do i have that thing am i already am i donking off ten dollars a month on that particular

way to see that movie it's very very different than you know 10 years ago that's for sure yeah

it's interesting i was thinking this weekend a little bit about maybe it was this maybe it was this uh revelation that i missed this movie that got me thinking about it but um in a certain way like it is cool that you know talking about the legally getting the content that i want through our legal means like these and i again hbo netflix hulu we don't do the disney or apple but um i feel like there's at least one more in there and in a certain way this is what we wanted for a long time which was a la carte cable in a certain way right you can kind of choose the services but at the end of the day i mean we're still saving a lot of money compared to what we were paying for our cable bill it was astounding we're paying some like 200 a month for a million channels that we didn't really use but i mean i i can't figure out if we're getting closer to a better system or if a bad system's just being replaced by another shitty system oh the amazon prime is another one we pay for as well and so now we can watch thursday night football on that

right i mean yeah i need to i have i have too many of these services and i don't like look at most of them i basically watch stuff on netflix i have cable and then i've got because you know like for the mandadorian or something i signed up for whatever that is disney yeah and then just keep forgetting to cancel it stuff like that so i need to do a little accounting on that because i'm i'm doing it the worst way you've cut the cable and then you're going a la carte yeah i'm just at the golden corral of content like it's just buffet style and i'm just paying out the wazoo i'm paying for the cable and then i'm also paying for all the additional streaming shit

what was the seven what was uh severance streaming on that's that apple i think right yeah so you

must have apple as well yeah i've got apple i've got all of it i think i've got apple i've got hbo max i i hate hbo max with uh the fire of a thousand suns because it is i think that they're trying to they're trying to cut down on people basically using other people's hbo max login and so like you know borrowing it from your friend or whatever so it is so flipping impossible to log into it is so much dual factor authentication what like if you're just watching on your home device you have to log in every time uh oftentimes i have it you know like so there's hbo which is like a channel i have on my television that i pay for but then there's hbo max which is something slightly different it's their on-demand thing you can watch it on your computer supposedly you can also watch it on your tv i just had more than one night where i'm trying to watch something that's on hbo max and it's like texting me something to one of them to my phone and i have to verify and like what the reason it especially annoys me is because they're also one of the companies that spams me with the most email every week like new on hbo max just for you like they're always trying to like cause me to go to the app and then when i try to go they're just like who the hell are you it's like it's really frustrating and i attribute it to them trying to make it really hard to use someone else's login so they're constantly making you re-verify that you that you're the person who

owns this login well i i have not had that experience i mean when you first set it up on a device you have to do that but like we have it on our xbox downstairs roku upstairs or maybe we just have it on the smart tv upstairs and i have it bookmarked here on my computer and i i bop in and out of there all the time i never have any issues so i must just maybe it's i don't know

maybe it's me maybe it's how i have it set up i've just had like two or three really frustrating experiences where it's like i'm having to go to hbo max slash whatever like on a you are on a browser so that i can like activate it even though i pay for it already it's just like yeah no i know

that experience but for me it's just like you set it up once and you're good to go so i don't know

what's that's the beauty of tbtl andrew once once you're logged in and we've saved your password it's just this is just available five days a week for the listeners and they don't have to do any there's no dual factor authentic in fact we would like you to share this password please yes friends college roommates ex-lovers whatever go for it and if any of you want to join us for this meeting

um luke and i have to talk for seven to ten minutes about listener engagement maybe we just get a listener to do it for us and it's almost like boom like that's how engaged our listeners

are if we could have a few people show up outside of um seventh and cedar in saint paul they will the hq of apm now the problem is none of the people that we're talking to will even be No, no, no, no, they won't be in New York and L.A., yes. But it would be nice if you could just show up and do a little... Somebody brought a moose type of thing, like a huge moose statue when we were leaving Cairo. Just something like that would be great. A moose statue? What's that? You never saw a picture of this? I don't think so. Yeah, somebody brought like a... I wouldn't say life-size because the thing about moose, if you see them in real life, they're freaking enormous. But this thing was probably five feet off the ground and six feet long. It was some weird plastic like moose like.

animal that was spray painted gold and they just brought it i think as part of the protest and then we just had it for a while or something i've you know the listeners will remember but yeah there

was a moose there was a big deal no i'm looking it up now when you type in tbtl moose you just get episode number 3523 a loaded sack of moose face which i think was us replying or us talking about the mariner moose during the the pandemic remember like there were pictures of the moose wearing a mask like a face covering but it just looked like the mask was just like just it was just an unflattering look to put a mask on a moose and it just you end up with a loaded sack of moose face

yeah exactly all right um all right everyone that's gonna do it for today's show we did you know 96 minutes i think that's a that's a solid day's work and it's gonna take the listeners a long time to work their way through all that probably by about the time the listeners are finishing with this episode it'll be time for tomorrow's episode yeah i was all over the place

at least i did have energy though i did yeah it might not have been it might not might not have

been focused energy but we had energy i think the listeners will take it i think energy is good even if even if we're bouncing around as was i by the way never even talked about when we were young festival being canceled stuff like that so and uh and tomorrow we can also maybe talk about the science of Halloween if we still got some Halloween in us and then also more people are giving their pets human names and why we think that might be the case. We'll talk about that tomorrow. So please do join us for that. Until then have a great Monday. Take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain

too tall and good luck to all.

There's a lot going on at this Somerville home. There are two adults, three kids, more than 60 animals, including some fish and a whole bunch of moose turds. Mary Winchenbatch runs Turdy Works. It's art made from the stuff that moose leave behind.

Everyone takes a crap. Everyone goes to the bathroom, so everyone can relate to that. And the terms that I use to name these products are everyday terms that, you know, people are used to hearing and stuff. So we just kind of, you just try to, you know, combine the two to come up with something halfway decent that's funny, you know. For example, the first thing that we make now, instead of a cuckoo clock, see, this is a poo-poo clock. And what we did see is we took them turds and we crammed them in between the number there, so that's 1-30-2-30-3-30. Power out.