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Chase, what's your favorite thing to snack on when you're jamming out to music? Um, I don't know. Everything's good. Okay, well, we're streaming live on Bagel Bites TV, so can you say Bagel Bites? Oh, yeah. Bagel Bites. Okay, great, but can you say it in a sentence? Like, I'm Chase Dreams, and when I'm jamming out to music, I love to eat Bagel Bites. I'm Chase Dreams, and when I'm jamming out to music, I love to eat Bagel Bites. Okay, great. Congrats on whatever it is you do. Thanks. T-B-T-L! tbtl coming across the airwaves full of love through the sky there is one more thing the network has received quite a few angry phone calls from older viewers about our theme song

really i think our theme song sassy

laughter a sure sign of a good time a year ago this is exactly what greg kinere was doing

but now he has an oscar for sliding doors three colon jingle all the door things are going to

start happening to me now well all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a thursday edition of tbtl the show it just might be too beautiful to live you want to do a make-believe radio show in a room somewhere i'm telling you there's no money in that my name is luke burbank

i am your host i feel cute today look at my outfit coming to you from the hollywood broadcast

center right here in portland oregon where it is an absolutely gorgeous day oh ma pa it's just beautiful i am wearing a sort of a special outfit today i'm a little more dressed up than normal because andrew and i just wrapped up a meeting with our colleagues at american public media where we explained to them how to make their shows as successful as tbtl and that means that Some of those colleagues may tune in to today's episode. So we are going to try to actually do a quality program today.

Let's take our projects that we know we can't do and do them!

So here we are at episode 3,802 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. We've got a couple of updates on some stories that we've been following on the show.

Hey, what happened?

Including the case of the two men accused of cheating at a fishing tournament in Ohio.

That's a tuna, bro!

By sticking weights inside of walleye fish that they claim to have caught. So we'll tell you the latest there. Also, another day, another protest involving smearing food. I would say delicious food on a priceless piece of art. Welcome to Food News Today. It's actually a longer list than we realized. I knew about the tomato soup on the Van Gogh. But we are pretty close to a full-on Thanksgiving meal. If we can get somebody to throw some turkey at the David statue, I think we're there. So we'll get into that. Also, because it's a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day, we'll do the Blur's Day messages. We'll do all of that with the help of this young man. He is the longest-running co-bro of the show. He may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships, capturing their grace and power. He is Andrew Walsh, and he is joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. Now, listen, I know we're supposed to do a really good, tight, professional show today because we might have colleagues listening. Having said that, I need to start off with a really bad idea because something's been on my mind lately, which is, I think I've mentioned this to you maybe on the air, maybe off air, but my new solution for having enough coffee in my studio without having to run up and down the stairs a million times as we're getting ready to do the show is to fill up like a full thermos, like a classic Stanley green, like, you know, you take it to the job site thermos with you. But what I realize I've been doing during the show is trying to, and I'm going to kill this music here for a second. I've been trying to so quietly while you're talking, pour it into my cup because I realize it makes kind of a loud sound, but I want to stop doing that.

Kind of a nice, you know, theater of the mind type situation.

I think it's a wonderful sound, but maybe without context, I was worried about it. People think maybe I'm peeing. Maybe you sound like you're urinating or something. Yeah, exactly. This song goes out to all the coffee lovers of the world. So I want to just introduce this as canon sort of right now so that I don't have to hide it. I don't have to explain it. So this is the sound. That's the sound. If you hear that in the background, that's just me filling up a mug of Joe from my handy piano.

That's Stanley Thermos. That's beautiful. You know, when I was a like literally the work study student, meaning I was below intern levels at KUOW radio in Seattle, they had, you know, weekday was.

a show that I kind of helped out with. And it was two hours every single day. It was 9 a.m. till 11 a.m. It was hosted by Steve Scher, Marcy Sillman, and Dave Beck. And they had a segment called Second Cup of Coffee. That would be at, like, I mean, is that not the most local public radio? And it was kind of just a little, it was actually a genius segment, honestly. I think it would be at about 10.30. So you've done the show. So you're like 9 to 10 is like, you know, you're talking to the mayor and you're doing kind of like, you know, sort of news of the day, important stuff. But by 1030, you're kind of ready for your second cup of coffee. And so it would just be some kind of quirky thing that you just now it's time for second cup of coffee. And there was literally a cart, Andrew, that had the exact sound you just made.

Oh, yeah. A cart like the way we used to play sound on the radio. Yeah.

So like an audio cart. It looked like an eight track tape. And if you worked at a radio station back in the day, you saw these things everywhere. And it'd have like, you know, you'd a drop like this song goes out to all the coffee lovers of the world would have its whole own cart, its whole own eight track looking thing, because that was how it worked. And they had a cart that would play like the sound that you just made. And it would be time for second cup of coffee. And I think we I mean, that that show is is is long gone. That segment is long gone. Maybe we should bring that back on TBTL.

btl maybe like what would it so what would it be near the end of the show by the way i want to mention one thing before it slips my mind listener colby wrote into me uh a couple of weeks ago we were talking about carts and how i have a bunch of old radio not a bunch but i've got a handful of old radio projects that i made in college for classes i was attending that i said i would never hear them again because they're on carts and that technology is long gone and colby's like i have a cart machine bring your stuff over and let's digitize it and now i i hired some people to hunt down colby and steal his cart machine because i never want these things to see the light of day um sorry colby um i would love to hear that stuff what is your pitch on the segment

as it pertains to tbtl you know andrew i'm an ideas man i think i proved that with bleep mountain i just like that sound effect and i feel like i don't know maybe the problem is we don't we don't even abide by the segments we do have no like we're supposed to be doing top stories allegedly like 15 minutes into the show when's the last time we got to top stories before the 45 minute mark

you know i got some emails today from people who were saying that they um have more uh tbtl unexplained questions they have for us and i know that you did not like that segment but i think we're just gonna have to do that at some point well i didn't like the segment for for folks that

are just joining us now including our colleagues at apm that was where people would just ask us Like, why do you play that audio or why do you say that thing? Basically asking us about various inside jokes and such. And I didn't like the segment because my answer, it turned out for everything was, I don't know. I just I'm we're just doing it. There was a thing probably at some point. And I don't know when that point was. My memory is Swiss cheese. And this segment really highlighted that.

But it gave like longtime listeners a chance to write in and be like, hey, dummies, this is why this is the answer to that other listener's question. so like we did it just took a while it was sort of an arc over a couple of days in fact i'm looking at these i'm look i'm not going to share them now but we need to do another uh tbtl unexplained segment coming up and even if we don't have the perfect answer didn't we have a good theme song for it too we had a couple of theme songs people were sending in um let's see we heard alleys the

first time i don't even remember this time this was from um sophie tbtl what does it mean Drop spoofs and memes forever It's too beautiful to live Inside to the power of inside It's DBTL unexplained

That's so good, and I think I said this last time, one of my favorite magnetic field songs.

And then here's Brian in Portland. I don't think you've heard this one yet. This has been sitting in my inbox. Whoa.

Nice. All right. Now, speaking of listener generated content, because, of course, this was a big part, Andrew, of what we were bragging about today during our, I guess you would say, all staff meeting. we have another country song from listener joey based on something we said that sounded like it

could be a country uh a country refrain yes good call good memory i have it right here we were talking the other day on the show and i you know maybe somewhat rudely was doing an imitation of modern country music that really kind of celebrates um dumb a lack of intellectual rigor Biggs. Exactly.

Making it really more a feature than a bug that one may not be able to read, but does shotgun 14 beers a night.

And so I said, I threw out there the idea of a song called You Read Your Books, I'll Drive My Truck. And listener Joey, who has already written one TBTL country song for us, wanted to kind of make this a reality. I don't have his email in front of me right now, but if I can paraphrase, he said he started working on one that ended up becoming too earnest. and sweet and it had a line in there that was something like you and me together now that's a novel idea because of books and he's like i i liked that song but it also it wasn't really getting at the point of the song which was to really kind of underscore this idea of just like you know i i have no interest in in in educating joey is unfortunately such a talented songwriter he made it too that

when we give him absolute crap he manages to alchemize it into something good and that was

the problem exactly so here's the final version this is a full-ass song we're gonna hear the whole thing um spotify can't touch us because it was made for tbtl by a tbtl listener um so here it is about a two and a half minute song called you read your books i'll drive my truck i invited

you to celebrate trucktober couldn't hear what you said over the sound of my motor Can't catch a big fish With bookworm 4x4 is all the math That I'll ever learn You read your books, baby I'll drive my truck I'd like to see Shakespeare Pull you out of the mud Keep turning those pages When my diesel rages You read your books I'll drive my truck I showed you a picture Of my Chevrolet You showed me a picture Of Dorian Gray You were quoting poetry Down by the lake When you get lost And I save your ass Don't cough gun on my exhaust You read your book, baby I'll drive my truck I'd like to see Shakespeare pull you out of the mud Keep turning those pages My diesel rages You read your books I'll drive my truck Elon says his new car Save the four-leaf clover Tough luck, rich guy Cause I just ain't randed over Yeah, I've been mudding almost daily While you're getting into Alex Haley You read your books, baby I'll drive my truck I'd like to see Shakespeare pull you out of the mud Keep turning those pages My diesel rages You read your books I'll drive my truck Somewhere there's an orange or yellow truck Named Clementine You're listening to a run Before you spend another dime You read your books, baby I'll drive my truck I'd like to see Shakespeare Pull you out of the mud Keep turning those pages My diesel rages You read your books I'll drive my truck I'll drive my truck I'll drive my truck

That is amazing. How do people write songs, Luke?

I mean, come on. How do people control the volume on their stadium applause sound effects? These are questions we may never know the answer to. All I can say is, wow. Well, I think you can't catch fish with a bookworm might be one of the greatest lines ever written. I'm talking about music. I'm talking about literature. I know. I'm talking about podcasting. That is an absolute masterpiece.

It really is. And by the way, I'm going to give a, I hope I'm pronouncing the last name correctly, but Joey's last name is Cappuccia, I want to say, C-A-P-O-C-C-I-A. And I'm going to Google on the fly here because I think that Joey is in a band that we should be promoting as well.

Well, yeah. I mean, I don't know the name of Joey's musical group, but I mentioned this a while ago. When I was flying to Nashville, I was on the flight with Joey because there was a music festival happening in Nashville. And Joey was there with some of his partners.

who he plays music with and i have to say joey you should have just stayed in nashville and started shopping that song i feel like like you could definitely get i think you could probably get toby keith or somebody to record that like that's a legit really good song here it is i'm

sorry it's in his email and i should have gone there first the pine hearts sorry about that the pine hearts or you you say the pine hearts i say the pine hearts but i guess we'll just make

it work joey thank you for writing that and i mean for real like i just i feel like that's i don't i don't understand the what the nashville music scene looks like and i'm not a songwriter but i feel like i would be i've always found it very intriguing as an idea that you could go out there and if you just came up with a catchy song you could sell it to a kenny chesney or a you know because a lot of those songs also are not overly musically complex it's just about a turn of phrase right and and a catchy tune and like your whole life could change if you got you know if Blake Shelton put one of your songs on the record and it took off like I thought I feel like that approach

to to music making is very interesting to me yeah and again it's almost like just hearing that and knowing that we made this joke you know I don't know a week ago now but this has also been sitting in my inbox for a few days so that like that you can just like you know not the lyrics alone if i was just like writing that as a spoofy newsletter or something the lyrics alone would take me a couple of days but then just like the idea of turning it into music is completely like just black box technology for me like i just simply do not understand it when i see every now and then i know it sounds corny like we listen to music you know a lot as human beings but then every now and then you're just like how do you do that you know like i just it is such a mystery to me and that's fine i do other things well i um yes you do you know there are things we do this show we

go to break on time like we're about to right now we're really showing off showing out today i eat

a sandwich really well by the way the best of them i thought you did a really good job in that

meeting today thanks all kidding aside like you it's funny because like i feel like i know you pretty well and a lot of what we tend to sort of um interrogate on this show is our own insecurity and how kind of um how un how not confident we are etc but like none of that would have nobody would have known that from your performance in that meeting i think i thought you you were totally on point you were confident you were funny you didn't ramble like you were like real i mean can we bring more of that to this show no no i can't say one i know i don't know why i'm sorry i saw a joke opportunity that wasn't what i didn't start that i did not start that sentence with the idea that i was gonna like take the compliment rip it away from you at the last minute no but really andrew i like i you're really good in those situations i feel like for some reason i want to let the listeners know because you're you're so i feel like you're just so self-deprecating that you know people who weren't in on the call wouldn't know but like you're very professional

and and very good in those situations thanks you know what's weird is like that was the most that in any of those departmental zoom meetings that we've been having for i don't know since about the beginning of the pandemic um that was the most that the spotlight was specifically on me or us right and but we knew it was coming we had like a month we had mentioned it like they want us to talk for like 10 minutes which you and i that is another skill that we have we can talk for 10 minutes but um well make sound yes um but like in the past if i just cracked my mic for a second on those things um i'm talking about in like 2020 when we were like kind of just all a little bit newer to zoom luke i would have sounded like i was crying in meetings you should have i don't think you were on any of them and if i just wanted to pipe up for a second or somebody said hey talk about what's going on on tbtl for two seconds my voice would be so shaky and i sounded so nervous this time maybe because i knew we were doing it for a while and we had a few talking points and you were there um it just didn't feel it didn't feel awkward to me i think i spoke a little bit too quickly and stumbled here and there which i do all the time obviously but um yeah weirdly i didn't feel i wasn't super in my head about that because i think i was pretty comfortable with the type of stuff we're talking about which literally what we were talking about was why our listeners are so great which is i'm not even just saying i mean that's literally what we're talking

about so no true story that's what the we were asked to talk about listener engagement and basically the spiel was we for some reason have this amazing group of folks who uh like this show and like each other and are willing to help support it financially and support each other in myriad ways so it was really us just bragging on the listeners which is a pretty easy thing to do also sometimes it's weird it's like if you're asked to say one thing in a meeting that can be more stressful than being asked to just kind of like more or less run a meeting for 10 minutes because it's just kind of like yeah you and i did have a conversation yesterday where we kind of like put together a little structure here's what we should talk about and maybe i'll handle this part you handle that part so that kind of felt good that there was a plan and um and yeah you're kind of in a i got up this morning being like oh yeah we got to do this thing there's something different about kind of like not having anything prepared and then just being asked to say like it's it's the reason i know this seems like i'm doing a bit it's the reason that i get very nervous for affirming that i will operate the exit on the plane when i'm in the exit row verbally to the flight attendant in front of everyone and it's one word it's just yes yes but that yes as it's going you know down the row of people saying yes and it's getting closer to me i am filled with a sense of dread that is orders of magnitude worse than when i am standing on the side stage of live wire about to go literally host a radio show in front of a crowded room of people for hundreds of thousands of radio listeners for like two hours i am more nervous to say yes to the flight attendant than to go out there and host that show and i can't explain why that is but it is just the case are you so geared up that if they

ask you something else you just say yes and you didn't even probably they were saying just like sir could you move your um legs out of the aisle for the yes suddenly you're adam part of it is

because i haven't been talking so i'm worried my voice is going to crack that's a big that's a i don't have a cough button on the plane which really stresses me out because usually what i like to do right before i'm going to say anything in a public space is a long throat clear can't do that there uh there's yeah there's just a bunch of factors that make it so that i that stresses me out much more than a lot of the other stuff that i do that's as they say outward facing what

about just answering in an adam durrett's voice you do a good imitation that would be a great answer to do you understand these instructions and are you able to uh what what are they actually what are you saying yes to you're saying do you understand and are you able to help in the case

of an emergency essentially in the case of an emergency are you willing and able to assist yeah right which i think someone wrote on twitter like they don't like it when the person comes around and makes you confirm verbally that you're not a coward you know but that would be funny someday if i've ever i've had a few at the airport lounge and i'm feeling particularly saucy maybe i We'll give him a good Duritz.

Yeah!

Give somebody else some Sky Jinks for a change.

Right? Man removed from flight. Public radio hose zip-tied and removed from flight after insisting on answering everything in Adam Duritz singing. Step out the side door like a ghost where no one goes. See if I can sing the whole exit row thing, but in the style of round here.

You did such a good job there. I wasn't sure if those were actual lyrics that you were you just like had the perfect song in your head that would apply to the going out the side door.

That sounds like something to be supposed to be the beginning of around here. I love it. OK, I'm going to quit while I'm ahead. And we're going to break while we're slightly ahead at only 24 minutes into the program, because that's what we do on this highly successful show. All right. Quick break and then back with more here on TV. T.L. speaking of our most valuable asset as a program our wonderful donors and supporters we've got to thank some of them right now folks like luann sewell of bothell washington for a day i would say for however long feels right to you are you willing in the case of a day or a lifetime to reside in Bothell? I need an affirmative answer, Luann.

Yeah, have we talked about, so of course Bothell, it says on the signs as you enter for a day or for a lifetime. It never occurred to me, is that an either or and there's like no room in between? Yes, which is why I can't go back.

I've been there for one day.

And you can't go back. So I've used up,

I've burned that eventuality. The only one left for me is a lifetime. It's a real Hotel California situation. Exactly. And the Steely Knives. That's another similarity Bothell has to the Hotel California. Amber Scrant is in Cairo, Michigan. Now, here's the thing. I'm saying Cairo because the only Cairo that I've seen before is Cairo, Illinois. Hmm. But I don't know if that's how they pronounce this same kind of city in Michigan.

C-A-R-O. I got to say, if I were doing this list and I didn't have that information about the other city, I would have said—

Caro, right?

I would have said Caro or...

caro um yeah and i could be i mean we could call it they have a tim hortons there can we call that

i was just literally googling businesses i'm not even joking to see what they call themselves but

that's probably not the best use of our time uh it is a good use of our time to say thank you to amber for supporting the program thanks amber also nicole hampton is here in portland oregon i am very confident on that pronunciation uh nicole i hope you're enjoying this stunning and i mean stunning thursday like it is well it's so beautiful andrew it means i need to get some tyvek up on the uh construction project i had them take down a bunch of siding which was great but now it's just the bare like wood of the house and of the garage that when it goes back to raining i'm very fearful it's just going to become waterlogged and then rot and then collapse and then i don't have a

house anymore what is it like temporary insulation tyvek no tyvek is just you've seen it it's just

that kind of white paper although it's you know it's waterproof that goes on to the outside of the house before whatever the siding is that's going to cover it i'm looking and it's just a it's a waterproof barrier i've been doing some youtube video watching you need to put it on so that the writing the tyvek writing is on the outside because one side of the paper is permeable and one side isn't so it lets moisture out but it doesn't let it in oh good so if you were to put it on upside down or backwards you would be only letting moisture in but not out which would be bad um and um yeah that's pretty much what i know about it and i need to get some up pretty soon Because there's now, by the way, if you're interested in seeing what just an absolutely demolished inside of a home looks like, do tune in to the Hey Dummies video this week. Because that is where I recorded the Hey Dummies video is inside part of this construction project. And it is, I looked at it later. I was like, it is bleak. I don't think so.

I think it's well, I think you framed it really well. I like the lighting. Unfortunately, no joke. this is way too much detail but there were some issues with the editing software this week so that i don't know if it's a kind of a bummer because i loved your lighting in that and kind of the contrast and everything but i think the the um color correction sort of got messed up why don't we can't we just not color correct it well no that it's not trying to be color corrected it's like add it's there's some i mean do you want me to get into it they updated premiere pro and they're and it's not working well with mobile video for some reason and so our editor james has been wrestling with it all morning and trying to make it look as good as possible okay it'll be

fine i mean let's be honest it's me in the video there's a real ceiling to how good it can look no matter what but um anyway thank you to nicole here in portland and thank you also to olivia kent out there in richmond virginia now let me ask you this do you think it's interesting because it

might not be and sometimes i find things interesting that are not interesting but do you find it interesting that we have both a kent and a scrent uh in our thank you list today oh

Oh, it's a classic Kenton Scranton Thursday.

I love that cartoon in the 90s. Yeah.

Oh, man, it was edgy. It was very edgy. Thank you, Olivia. Thanks also to Kevin Budrich Ryan in Olympia, Washington, the state capital.

Yeah, I need to spend more time in Olympia. I've only been there once.

Olympia is very cool, actually. Capitol Lake, and there are some great neighborhoods. I mean, it is kind of fun to get out and walk around on the grounds of the state capital as well. like yeah i'm a i'm a fan of olympia as a place i would say leave your ar at home there's no reason to bring it to the capitol andrew as much as you keep pointing out that it's your right i just feel

like it's not necessary it's not helping well i think it's important to stand up for my second

amendment rights luke what do you want me to say i know you do um i saw that you retweeted that i love that meme that's going around the spirit halloween costumes and it's like i mean i've seen 50,000 versions of that but one of them was conservative guy who's afraid so it's a package you know like you would buy a Halloween costume at Spirit and then it's got a little picture of what the costume is and it's conservative guy who's afraid to go into the city and it's just like the classic guy and he's wearing one of those shirts that I just hate it's from something called The Line which is you got your Black Rifle Coffee Company right and then you've got The Line

Is it Nine Line? Isn't that what it is?

nine line maybe nine line it's got like a helicopter yeah that's like lowering veteran

inspired apparel nine line and this one which hey you know what it's like it's like if you're a

veteran and you served honorably and you weren't it you know you weren't part of something like specifically something truly regrettable then hey uh good job and thank you for thank you for your service legitimately so that i don't i shouldn't theoretically have a problem with veteran inspired apparel but i can tell you every person i've seen wearing that gear as i'm getting on the airplane

Or as I'm gassing up or whatever Is also somehow indicating A strong Let's Go Brandon vibration

Yes they believe that blue lives are a thing Exactly

So anyway I thought that was a funny Tweet that you retweeted

Yeah it was somebody else's tweet But I retweeted it and said if you want to go as a Tiffany Smiley supporter for Halloween

Oh dude I don't know why this is going on But I guess because I set up Well that's not even true I set up my cell phone in California many years ago but somehow you know i get these texts i've been getting just like myriad political texts to my phone and they're 99 of them are democrat right because i've you know donated to some causes at various times so i'm on some lists i guess and they're just breathless right they're like make me want to not even vote for democrats because it's just like so over the top um i am by the way going to vote for democrats but i got one yesterday from the tiffany smiley campaign and it was like Baylor Graham and Grady Smiley were reminding you to turn in your ballot for their mom Tiffany Smiley and then it's a video with these kids and my response was are you fucking high I'm sure it just goes to a bot but I'm just hoping there's some Tiffany Smiley staffer somewhere who just who understands that that's where I come down on voting for Tiffany Smiley for Senate. Did you say that was a

text or an email because I do think they monitor the text because I wrote back one time maybe not something quite as aggressive but like we talked about on the show like somebody's like are you voting for so-and-so as a candidate that I found repulsive and I wrote back like hell no or something I wrote back like are you joking um and they uh and the person wrote oh I'm sorry to hear that why is it I'm so-and-so with the campaign and I was kind of like oh you know I kind of give him credit for like wanting to engage politely with me on that um and I just and I think I said yeah I think it was a local candidate maybe uh although I could be wrong about that I don't know if it was city or that's

one of those moments where you then you're like oh okay well now i guess i have to vote for ted

cruz no you don't i told him why i i think i told him why i wasn't uh i wasn't into their platform

but that is an interesting approach to kind of actually have a person like that's actually very smart instead of just blasting out like a mass text that's just from a a number that can't even get replies it's like if you get a reply you are getting engagement even if engagement is negative if you have a system set up to then re-engage with those people let's say you convert one out of every 10 into a voter that's still something yeah exactly and also i

mean i i did appreciate the um i don't know the civility there you know what i mean yeah right

that's i've gotten no such response from tiffany's children asking the kids if they're high yeah well you know what you put them out there tiff uh dan schlieff is in west lynn oregon in all of my travels around oregon i don't know if i have yet been to west lynn i've never heard

of west lynn but you know i'm not from these parts i'm looking for some fast facts here it's in uh clackamas county do i say that wrong yeah you did you said clackamas perfectly okay good good good uh southern suburb within the portland metropolitan area so it's not far i

bet you i've been through west lynn and didn't even realize it was yeah yep anyway anyway thanks everybody thank you so much dan for checking in from west lynn and for supporting the show thank you to all of our donors today for making tbtl possible we would not be here without you

hello and welcome to top story um a couple quick things before we get to the top stories uh one

andrew i do i cannot be trusted with normal length fingernails i have been this whole show nursing an injury so on my hand that was created because my fingernails are getting too long like I have been a person who bites their nails for you know pretty much my whole life but what's weird about my nail biting is I am also a person who sometimes just stops and it's not because I'm not anxious it's just I'll kind of like go maybe it's like it'll be a week where like there's no Seahawk game or something there will be a week where I don't feel anxious enough to bite my nails or I don't and then my nails start to grow out a little bit and then I start to kind of enjoy the sensation of having fingernails like that are of some use for peeling off you know a sticker off of something or whatever but the thing is operating with and then I let him go a little bit longer we're not talking Howard Hughes here like this is just all I have right now are probably the standard length of fingernails for people that don't bite their nails and also don't put on you know like acrylic or you know do like their nails fancy I have just like normal length fingernails But I absolutely cut the shit out of my...

ankle the other day taking my socks off taking one of my socks off because my new my newly minted fingernails just dug into my ankle and just gouged out like i literally was bleeding just from my fingernail from my own fingernail and then today i was reaching up to get some splenda from the cupboard to for my coffee this morning and i caught my on my middle finger on my right hand i caught that fingernail on the cabinet door in a weird way because it's just like i'm not used to my fingernails extending out anywhere past the tip of my finger and so when that starts happening i'm not what is it proprio perception or whatever that term my sense of where i am in space i don't have a sense of where my hand is in space and so it's constantly i caught it on the actually the hinge of the cabinet door and bent it all the way back and now it's turning black i have a line where it's turning black because i i broke i didn't break the fingernail but i did something bad to it because again i don't know how to operate in the world with having anything other than some chewed down nub ass fingernails that was tough to hear man people

don't like hearing about fingernail injuries well andrew this is my truth having said that let's talk about my fingernails for a little bit please i don't know if you recall i think it even came up on the show because that's how you come up with 14 hours of content a week um but uh uh at the beginning of the summer i want to say i had a nail that for some reason had a split like kind of you know like going down the nail right and it would not heal i kept trying to let it grow out but every time i'd let it grow you know i you have to keep it short so that it wouldn't hang on something um and but then hopefully i thought like i'll just keep trimming the nail down filing it down and let it grow and eventually that split will just be cut off but i kept re-aggravating it and i couldn't get it to heal and so i started putting um for months i think i put uh nail polish on one nail for a while it was like whatever whatever nail polish i could find on genevieve's on genevieve's dresser and then uh eventually she bought me my own bottle of clear nail polish um i don't think it was passive aggressive i think it was out of actual care for me and eventually um it did go away but during this whole thing i do have a personality i don't talk about it a lot i'm weird like i i hate going to the doctor i have not been i have not been taking care of myself as far as getting like checkups and everything i'm proud of you for going to the doctor later this week luke that's well tvd on that okay well either way like i haven't whatever it's been too long since i've seen a doctor the doctor that i was seeing has quit has since quit his job or retired or i think he's still working in the office but not not he's not gonna be a doctor anymore which was a weird kind of move i don't know if i just if he looked at my body and said i can't do this anymore what

it was but um man when you send a doctor into a new line of work yeah you've really you've done

something i'm not kidding we got a note like through the portal that said it was from him just saying hey i'm gonna still be working this office but i'm not gonna be like seeing patients

anymore i'm gonna be moving to a dairy farm in vermont to just try to process for a few i'm

taking a step back from medicine. I believe the quote was I've seen dot, dot, dot things now. Anyway, so all of that is to say, I also am a little paranoid when I start seeing things with my body that seem like they're they're a new development, especially when it's something not healthy, like nails going thin. And so I was like Googling like, OK, and I kind of braced myself. I'm like, OK, I'm going to Google the symptoms of nails going thin and nails splitting and not healing and what is it about me is it a is it a lack of calcium is it just a disease that's going to fell me like what is this the beginning of um i'm telling genevieve to call like hospice care um and then i look it up and it's just kind of like you'll usually see this uh amongst people who wash dishes a lot and i'm like oh that's me you got oh how often do you look something up like that on the internet and you get good news you're just like oh i've just been washing the

dishes too much this is usually associated with people who are thoughtful and have good hygiene exactly so now i'm not going to the doctor for another five years happy for you yeah uh meanwhile i'm still over here in a whole situation with these nails they're not also not long enough to trim yet like they're just in between again they're not nubs i was never i am not my man you need a file oh yeah oh i also just like that look real real secretary in a mickey spleen oh luke yeah

you have a standing desk make that a sitting desk put your feet up when i come over to record something with you and you can be feet up on the desk filing your nails power move no but i need

to be more like in a pencil skirt i'm the i'm the secretary i'm not i don't have my feet up i'm sitting at it's one of those tank desks you know huh yeah kind of classic metal thing and i'm like i'm i'm like gossiping on the phone while i'm also filing my nails that's you

So it can't be, like, skirt, but, like, feet up on the desk, legs crossed at the ankles?

Oh, I guess I could be. Yeah, that's how I've been picturing you. I mean, I feel like, you know, that could be, I could, I don't, it depends on how long the skirt is. Yes, definitely. Anyway, you know what? I'll send you some pictures on Halloween. Okay. The point is, we've figured out what my costume is going to be.

Right, exactly.

A couple of updates on stories that we have been following. One, the two guys who are accused of cheating in this fishing scandal, Jacob Runyon and Chase Kaminsky, have pleaded not guilty to cheating and other felonies yesterday in court in Cleveland. And now for folks that maybe missed those couple of episodes, the allegation is that these these two fellas were in this fishing tournament and then they brought their fish in and then their fish weighed the most, which meant they were about to win like 20 something thousand dollars. Twenty eight thousand dollars was on the line. And a lot of the people there were very suspicious because these fish did not look like they should weigh double what everyone else's fish weighed. and so they cut the fish open and sure enough they had lead weights in them or metal weights of some kind and i think this is a weird aspect of it too or weird element fillets of other fish did you catch that part no i did not no which is just odd to me it's just an odd thing to stuff

in there yeah it's like this real bold and ramsey shit right there right seriously or like just a

turducken of confusion which could be a show title i don't know like because i understand putting the metal the lead in there because it weighs more but if you're doing that just put more lead in why are you putting in a filet of a different of a and i think it was probably still a walleye but i'm talking about a filet from another walleye and i actually have seen this on video it's among the things that they pulled out just imagine a nice actually look pretty

delicious looking filet of a walleye that's really weird i mean and clearly these guys this is the only talking point i've had on this is they've just they just overdid it anyway i mean they went way too heavy on this right maybe it's like that first line of fear and loathing in las vegas like once you're i think you have it more memorized than i do but like once you're on a drug gathering mission it's just kind of hard to know when to stop there's a tendency to push it as far as you

can yes yes um i guess yeah once you start it once you start a serious cheating situation there's a tendency to push it as far as you can like it's again the the fillet thing is so strange though because why i guess they just wanted to make sure that every bit of the interior of this fish was as dense as it could be it certainly couldn't be because now one of the things that was brought up when we first talked about this story was other better ways to cheat like stuff the fish with ice so that it weighs more but then if enough time goes by and they decide to cut the fish open it would just have melted into water again real encyclopedia brown bugs meany vibrations off of that one so that kind of makes sense but stuffing it with a fillet from another fish while you're also stuffing it with lead is just an odd detail to all of this but what i was really struck by was the fact that they're pleading not guilty yeah what are the

details on this because i saw the articles going around yesterday and i skimmed them and i didn't see like kind of what the what's the the in and out here on that are they just straight up saying we didn't i mean they were caught red-handed it must be more of a legal argument of some sort right what's that it must be some sort of a legal argument right they must be like kind of challenging the premise of the charges or something because i mean we it's on video

well right that's what i mean it a not guilty plea seems very very weird here because of how clearly they cheated at least based on the video um by the way the charges uh are attempted grand theft possessing criminal tools and they're felonies by the way um they could each uh they could get punished with up to 12 months in prison twenty five hundred dollars in fines they also face a misdemeanor account of as i mentioned last time this came up unlawful ownership of wild animals a charge related to the raw fish fillets that they allegedly had on their boat so they were catching other fish and cutting them into fillets some of which ended up in the fish they were presenting and some of which were just in the boat and therefore were unlawfully possessed in some way

as disgusting as that sounds i think if i were going to try to pull off this caper i would leave the lead balls out of it or the metal balls out of it and just stuffing them with other protein and other fish actually kind of makes more sense to me I feel like it would be less detectable

right I feel like there could be like what do walleye eat are they carnivores don't walleye eat like

garbage or am I thinking of a different fish I'm thinking of carp I think Oh, you might be thinking of garbage fish.

I'm thinking of the garbage fish of Lake Erie, yes.

Do you have garbage fish anxiety anymore since you've moved? Like, I feel like, I don't know why I'm obsessed with trying to figure out how to make them, how to go back and quantum leap into them and make them cheat better. But I feel like, let's say that walleye eat some kind of smaller fish. Couldn't you have just, like, got a bunch of those smaller fish, put them in the walleye? Like, hey, this walleye just really hit the jackpot. and like i really feel like there was so many better ways for them to do this cheating um i think you're right though it must just be i think this must be a legal strategy where what they're they're saying they're pleading not guilty because what they're hoping is that the prosecutor will decide this is not worth spending a ton of the public's money on as a case so what the i think what they're trying to do is get the prosecution to offer a deal So that they don't have to do any actual jail time Can you imagine them doing 12 months in prison A year in prison over this

I was going to ask you how do you think Well I don't like to talk about prison Because I really don't know what goes on in there And I don't want to give in to like the stereotypes And tropes as they're fed to us On television and movies But I do wonder

I know a lot about prison because one of the main things I look at On TikTok is people cooking food In their cells Fascinating

You're allowed to have cell phones See, that's something that I wouldn't have thought.

I would say not technically, but it sure is happening. It does happen. It is wild. These guys will make, sorry, just give me one minute on this and then I'll stop interrupting. No, I want to hear what you were going to say, though. But these videos are amazing. These guys will get a bunch of toilet paper rolls, like a full toilet paper roll, and then they'll get other toilet paper and they'll roll it up into sort of like a wick of sorts and put it in the middle of the toilet paper roll, right? Like in where it would be sitting on the roller. And they will get like eight of those on a tray of some kind. And then they will light them so that they're like – imagine they're like sterno things. And then one of their bunks, which is metal, will be dedicated, will be the cooking surface. And they will have cleaned it. And so it's sterile. And then they're cooking – like they heat it up from the toilet paper fire. It heats up this metal to where you just have a big grill. and then they will just like bring all this stuff they got from the commissary and they will make all manner of food in the cell on one of the bunks.

How are they keeping the toilet paper from just flaming out quickly? How are they keeping it like a low, steady flame?

I don't know if they have doused it in something because they put it underneath the bunk. And this is very dependent on the kind of cell you're in. Some cells might have a cement shelf would be your bunk, but I've seen ones where they're out in the public area, Like the group area Using one of the stairs Like metal stairs With a giant ass fire going And the You know Whatever The corrections officers Apparently don't care Or whatever It is Amazing the ingenuity That goes on In some of these places

Do you trust Chesapeakebay.net Because I do And they have a lot of information On walleye I'm going to tell you What they eat But then I'm going to quiz you on a couple of other aspects of their life walleyes are nocturnal feeding in shallow waters at night which sounds very peaceful right adult walleyes mainly eat other fish adult walleyes eat other fish young walleyes eat small crustaceans and insects primarily mayflies so that's their diet now let me ask you this just a couple of quick facts here that i want you to take a guess on uh how big do you think they are in length how long how many inches long

is a walleye i would say they an adult walleye would get up to about 14 inches it's around two

feet so around 20 okay so 24 more like 24 and it looks like the other uh the only other thing that i can um quiz you on here is what do you think their lifespan is how long does a walleye

well depends if there's a fishing tournament in their lake or not there's no fishing tournament I'm guessing they live 18 months 10 years dude

yeah right that's a long time all the reason not to get caught on a hook

yeah well oh my gosh I don't want to trigger warning trigger warning for folks who either A are big sensitive folks like me or love fishing and don't want me to besmirch it but can I just tell you a bumper sticker that I saw the other day that I was just like this is we shouldn't be celebrating this it was someone's like real like tricked out you know truck for hunting and fishing and being manly and they had a bumper sticker that was like a logo of like a you know a fish being pulled out of the water and it said dropping tips and ripping lips and i was like is that really do we really need to sell that aspect of fishing that sometimes the fish has their lip ripped out like that i'm not against

i don't have the feelings about fishing that you do um but i uh i don't like that that sounds i

know that i'm i know i'm like overly sensitive about that and fishing is something a lot of our listeners love and i mean i used to love it when i was a kid me and my dad would go fishing like my dad's a fly fisher which i do think there's a real beauty to that whole kind of art of tying a fly and of picking the right spot on the river. That's not lost on me, but I just thought, ripping lips, really? Do we have to rip it? That's like if you were into hunting, but your favorite thing was just wounding the animal.

It's gross.

I love hunting because I love to just actually miss and then have an animal that's injured limp off into the woods to die. I don't know why you're celebrating that aspect of it, other than that it rhymes with dropping tips.

Well, it's an actual fishing gear line. I'm on their website now. Yeah, it's called Rip and Lips Fishing. Yeah, and there's all these photos of these guys holding giant fish that are like the size of a human being, which I don't feel great about that either, I guess. But yeah, but why would you say Rip and Lips? It sounds like your stuff is not how it's supposed to work. I think you're doing a bad job at fishing. Yeah, exactly.

Doesn't the fish get away at that point, probably?

Yeah, they show a hook in the mouth. I don't like that.

Yeah, I think that the guys in Ohio who seem to have been caught red-handed are just hoping that if they stall it out long enough, there'll be a point where the DA will offer them a deal of some kind of a fine and then no jail time over this, which I will say, jail time seems a bit extreme, although they were about to win $28,000 they didn't deserve. If you walked up to somebody who was leaving the bank and they had $28,000 in a bag and you grabbed it and ran away, that would be considered a pretty—

You'd probably do some time.

That's a significant crime. yeah you know so that's kind of i don't know i guess that's an argument for them having and also there's a lot of speculation that this was not the first time they did this and they had won other versions of this tournament so if you add that money up you're starting to get into like

kind of a lot of money now i'm no danny aka i'm no lawyer but i um my guess is also that they're probably contesting some of these charges you know what i mean charges you listed them before cheating grand unlawful wildlife possession yeah and and grand theft possessing criminal tools i mean you can go after each of these specifically so we don't know and you're you are probably right i'm sure this will end with a settlement but then also you know you also sort of wonder you know there were a bunch of angry fishermen um who had got it who had gotten uh jilted um standing around them screaming where's the other one so you almost wonder like would these guys be safer in prison

than on the outside you know well the funny part too is that in this particular article that i was um seeing um there was a photo of these two guys in court and they're in suits and it is just such a different look from their like full-on you know fishing camo whatever outfits from one of these

tournaments yeah and one of them you can tell like it's like the second time he wore a suit and he

just got this like his brother's wedding yeah and this and like it's just i mean listen i i would say these guys clearly it would appear they cheated and they obviously deserve to be punished but it's it's interesting because i feel like all i don't know it is not for me to judge what should happen to them but it almost feels to me like the punishment has they have they are already suffering under what is probably a pretty stiff punishment for them which is complete and total ostracization i don't know if that's a word being completely and totally ostracized from probably the only social thing that matters to them right yeah like their identity was these fishermen dudes and these were their friends and this was i mean i'm sure this was very much how they identified in the world and now they're they're the two most famous fisher people in america they're the two most famous anglers in america they are also the only two anglers in america i can name but like i mean can you imagine in ohio can you imagine in the ohio walleye community or fishing community how big of a freaking story this is if we're talking about it out here in seattle in portland these guys their name is such mud it's just like they look so dear in the headlights in this court shot like these guys are pardon my uh you know pardon my swearing these guys are fucked

socially and it really cuts across like you know this is being written up we're the article i'm working off of is tmz here right i got one from npr here i've heard this story reported like and people keep on updating it on just the am radio sports station out here we're talking about it on our public radio podcast like it's just like every but this this story is interesting to every sector of the population

yeah it is

So, I mean, they should, if they got, if they were able to get, you know, prize money that they didn't deserve, and I don't know how you go back and prove that. I mean, probably what they, I think the fair outcome would be no jail time, but they're fined to, take whatever prize money they've already won in those previous two things, make that a punitive fine for them. So let's say it's 50 grand, fine them 50 grand, 25 grand each, and then distribute that money to whoever got second place in those years. And then just let these guys go wander the world unable to fish in peace, which seems like it'd be the worst punishment for them.

You just have to wander the earth without fishing rods.

That's right. Like David Carradine in Kung Fu, just wandering the world. Or maybe like Bruce Banner in the live version of The Hulk, also starring Lou Ferrigno. god that show made me so depressed as a kid oh i never saw it you never saw the live the live

action version that's not true i remember seeing bits and pieces of it but it wasn't like a staple of mine you know i knew it existed and i probably thought it was cool but i don't remember actually the more i talk i can kind of picture it but it wasn't like a regular viewing thing for me i think

it was the theme from the incredible hulk was literally called i'm just finding this out because i googled it was literally called the lonely man oh let me just play this for you a little bit of it andrew now imagine you're bruce banner you're cursed because you're the hulk i am to basically just wander from town to town nowhere to lay your head all you want to do is just fit in somewhere but the problem is every time you get mad you turn into lou ferrigno and you start throwing volkswagen bugs volks wagon bugs around this is the theme from the hulk that would play at the end of every episode just imagine like that is a nine-year-old luke watching this on a black and white tv that he snuck out of the closet at his parents house as once again bruce banner has to leave a city because he's hulked out and the people don't understand him.

See, I don't remember this song at all. I don't remember it ending so solemnly.

This really gives the MASH theme a run for its money in terms of just, what was with all the shows having just very depressing theme songs back at this period of time?

Now, will you let me do this? Will you let me do this? Now, I want to hear the opening title because I think there was narration on that, right? And it might make for decent podcasting. Sure. I don't know, because I don't think it's that sad. I want to hear this. The 1978 Incredible Hulk.

This is more like it. Dr. David Banner, physician, scientist, searching for a way to tap into the hidden strengths that all humans have. Then an accidental overdose of gamma radiation alters his body chemistry. And now when David Banner grows angry or outraged, a startling metamorphosis occurs. He turns into Lou Perignon. Bill Bixby

Bill Bixby

sorry by the way it's David Banner I kept calling him Bruce Banner for some reason

Mr. McGee don't make me angry you wouldn't like me when I'm angry

see now it's getting into a jazzy version

of the sad theme ...was wanted for a murder he didn't commit. David Banner is believed to be dead, and he must let the world think that he is dead until he can find a way to control the raging spirit that dwells within him.

It is, you know, in the books and everything, it's Bruce Banner in the movies. I don't know why it's David Banner in the TV show. Oh, good. Okay, so I'm not totally crazy. I mean, I think so. I haven't doubled it. But I mean, Bruce Banner, that's a famous Bruce Banner. Yeah, right?

Right, that's what I thought. I wonder, that's such an odd, that's a very odd tweak Because it's, I mean, obviously, they had to pay Marvel, right? They had to pay Stan Lee and all them for the rights, right? This wasn't, that couldn't have been a way of not, I mean, he's called the Hulk. So it's, they're already, I mean, this is very clearly a Marvel property, even all the way back then. So I wonder why they would go with David.

I'm on Wikipedia here. No, I'm not. I'm on IMDB now, the Wikipedia of movies. Now, according to something I'm seeing here, the show changed the character name to David, leading to this is an urban legend, but leading to an urban legend that it was because the name Bruce was considered too gay.

What?

Too homosexual, as it's put on IMDb. Right? I don't know what that means.

That's a really surprising reason for that.

Yeah, I don't think that's true. But even as an urban legend, that's strange.

Yeah, right. But, I mean, it kind of makes me almost want to go back and watch that show again, just hearing that intro, because that was – yeah, I couldn't say that I was a regular viewer of any of those programs because my access to television was so intermittent because either we didn't have a TV or we had one, but it was like – it wasn't out. It was like in a closet, so I could only like get it out when my parents were like not home or my dad wasn't home or something. so I couldn't get into a real regular viewing schedule with anything but I just remember being really obsessed with Knight Rider did you watch were you allowed to watch

Knight Rider I don't I definitely feel more of a connection to Knight Rider I remember seeing that more my parents were very strict like I'll tell you what we were not allowed to watch Chips I would watch Chips every now and then but like we weren't really allowed to watch Chips I think there was too much sexuality in that for my folks taste at least for how about Dukes of Hazzard But I bet Dukes of Hazzard, we were not allowed to watch that. And if I recall now, if I said this to my dad, I think he would have no memory of this. So I don't want to misrepresent him. But I swear, I have a memory of my childhood. And it might have just been one thing he said at one point, but he did not like us watching Dukes of Hazzard. Again, I think it was, as your parents would say, very fresh. I think there's a lot of all that Daisy Duke stuff, which is ironic because the bigger problem should have been the Confederate flag. Right, but you know what I remember my dad saying is that it was disrespectful to police. I remember my dad saying that to me one time that, like, the representation of Boss Hogg and whatever his little buddy's name was. Roscoe P. Coltry? Roscoe. I think my dad did not like police being depicted as farcical, backwoods, clumsy guys like that. Roscoe always did have an understanding nature. Yeah, so I don't know if my dad would like. Again, you know, you're a kid. Certain things stick in your head. i don't think i understood what he was talking about at that time and so he might have just said it once while it happened to be on in the room and then i was puzzling over it and so at age 45 or 46 45 i think um i i am still like trying to piece that together for my childhood so i don't want to be 46 by the way no are you what are you turning oh no because you're you're about to turn 46 i'm about to turn 46 you're 46 now right yeah so i hear what you're saying so it was like an

errant comment from you could have just been literally like huh boy those cops sure look silly on this or something i mean then it just yeah if i asked my dad today hey did you like

the dukes of hazard i don't know what he would say about it and you know maybe he would say that it's not out of character for him or maybe he just said at one time and i've been thinking about it for decades since i don't know i do know that as as when i was in college i loved the movie cop land I think we were talking about that on the show recently maybe not but I love the movie Copland I remember talking to my dad about it and he and I both kind of like those kinds of 90s cop movies but I remember his critique of that is he didn't like seeing Janine Garofalo who played a sheriff smoking a joint in a hotel room these are definitely some there are some through lines here sure that's probably what brought you to that film you consider Copland to be a Janine Garofalo vehicle I actually like that movie

I haven't seen a Copland poster where you've cut out Sylvester Stallone and everyone else. It's just Janine Garofalo in the background.

I this is a ridiculous thing to say. But, you know, we've been integrating our new kitten with our older cat. It's going all right. But for the first couple of for the first like week or so, we are keeping them mostly separated. You got to keep them separated. That's what I've always said. And so one night is a weekend night, I guess last weekend. And Professor Bananas, our older cat, who is, you know, very shy around strangers and everything, but really needs a lot of love from me and Genevieve since we're basically the only two living creatures that that she feels comfortable around right now. We're hoping to bring bingo on board with that soon. But anyway, Bananas just absolutely lives for the moments where Genevieve is watching TV on the couch and Bananas can kind of crawl up on her chest or her hip or whatever and just like kind of snuggle with Vives for four hours on end. Right. And Genevieve hadn't been home like she just had activities in the evening. I think she was at a Halloween party or something the other night. And I was in the basement with Bingo, and I felt so bad that Bananas didn't have any kind of interaction upstairs, but I didn't really want to be up there. So she was sitting on the couch where Genevieve would usually be, and I was like, well, we've got to put on some TV for you. I've never done this for a cat before, but I'm like, maybe you just like the sound of the TV on in the room. That can't hurt at all. So I turn on the TV, and the TV is kind of already set to the hard drive I have that has a whole bunch of TV and movies from throughout the decades on it. And I was like, what does Bananas want to watch? And I saw Copland. I'm like, that's probably a good vibe for a Friday night. So I watched like the first 10 minutes of Copland with Professor Bananas and then just let it roll for her. I still don't know if she enjoyed that or not, but I don't know. And did she mention enjoying seeing a more vulnerable side of Sylvester Stallone?

I think so, yeah. I forgot that, yeah, well, I don't need to get into a review of that movie. I think it holds up, though. Having watched the first about 10 minutes of it, like, it sucked me in immediately. Again, it's one of those Miramax things, so it's always tainted in that way. But, like, I got to say, that era of Miramax films, like, that was my movie addiction. You know, that was the type of vibe that I liked. They were the A24 of their time, right? Yeah, exactly.

what i put on for bubbles is the youtube channel that's just eight hours of cat tv so all it is is like birds and mice and everything and it's just it's wild though because she looks at she immediately freaks out based on the sound so like you know birds are like tweeting and she she her ears perk up she looks at it she will jump up on the thing she will slam her paw into the tv which i don't know why i spent a thousand dollars on this tv and now i'm trying to incentivize the cat to like thrash it i don't know why that's a thing i'm doing but then within about two minutes she's completely uninterested in it and i don't understand what the journey her brain has gone on is to where she's like because this thing is life size you know what i mean like you would think that it would endlessly captivate her but i think she it entertains her for like three minutes i basically put it on just so i feel less bad when

i leave yeah i don't don't leave it on when you're not there though in case she does like go crashing

into the tv especially as she gets well she's not big enough to knock the tv but she's getting

bigger you know what i mean you don't want to come home one day and find out oh i guess she hit that

i only put it on when i'm gone because the idea is i want her to have some actually what i've been doing now that was just playing public radio yeah that's i figure let's at least bring her up to speed on the tigre region and what's going on there while i'm gone let's see if we can you know

smarten her up a little bit i remember driving um theodore murray home low those many years ago When did we adopt him? I guess that would have been 2001. And we adopted him in Massachusetts, some lady who took a break from her job at the grocery store so she could meet me and Vives in her walk up. I've told you that story before. We grabbed this kitten. Her husband's there pantless, covering himself with a blanket when we walk in. It was a very Boston moment. Anyway, I remember driving in my big 83 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme, I think, driving home in the big boat and right between us on the bench seat is Theo. I didn't like putting him in a cage. I'm just like, he should just get used to riding around with us and listening to a Prairie Home Companion and just being like very excited that he was into a Prairie Home Companion, or at least that's how I took it to be, as if he had control over the situation. and now I'm worried that Garrison Keillor might be the reason he ended up being such a basket case at the end I don't know of course can we pin that on old Gary I don't know

there's a right way to rock and a wrong way to roll you can't just listen to your soul just remember that life is number one you can't be having so much fun just remember that life

Just putting some Egyptian musk on my wrists here Went through the whole show and that meeting Without having my calming scent on me

I saw a tweet yesterday that made me laugh so hard on the subject of cologne and that sort of stuff. This woman wrote, Your cologne needs to match your face. You had me turning around over some foolishness.

In other words, an uggo wearing a nice cologne.

Basically, yes. Her contention was she had smelled a very nice cologne and assumed that it matched everything and then turned around and then was not interested.

Oh, it was probably me. That's all right. Hey, let's get these Blursdays kicked off here with Luke. I think this is a special, I mean, this must, this must happen every year and we just never realized it, but we have two Lloyds celebrating their big days this week. We have, of course, Pizza Lloyd, we call him Pizza Lloyd or Pepperoni Lloyd, Pizza Lloyd, right? Yeah, the Pepperoni King. Hey Lloyd! The Pepperoni King. Summer in North Bend, Washington says, I'd like to wish Lloyd a happy Blursday. He's the only 10 I know in real life and the number one TBTL pizza news correspondent. Absolutely. Thank you, Lloyd, for always being the first to check in and say, hey, I hope you had a great birthday. Happy Blursday, Pizza Lloyd. Gotta stop and smell the pizza. Yes, you do. Now, if you'll recall, Luke, we have another listener named Lloyd. And I think we accidentally, in the heat of the moment, one time referred to him as Other Lloyd. But I remember even saying, like, that's not nice. like that. That's not a nice way to refer to a human being. And this Lloyd wrote in to say, I'd like to wish myself a happy 82nd Blur's Day. Wait. Yeah. What? This is Lloyd. And this is the Lloyd who will often write in to me if there's an issue with the show posting to the website. And he's always kind of just letting me know, hey, it's not up there yet or whatever. And I apologized to him in an email for referring to him as other Lloyd. And he got back with me and he said, hey, I retired over 20 years ago. So you could call me retired Lloyd. I was also born on Halloween 82 years ago, so you could call me Old Lloyd or Halloween Lloyd. Well, I'm going to scratch Old Lloyd, and I don't like that.

Yeah, I don't like Old Lloyd, but I like Halloween Lloyd.

Yeah, Halloween Lloyd, part four. This one's not for the kids. Anyway, happy Blursday to all of our Lloyds. I'm a little scared half to death. Nate says, happy early birthday to Kate in Seattle. the best of the tbtl kates and my favorite person love nate now did we have to take down the other kates in order to celebrate this kate don't call them other kates i'm not sure we're not othering sorry any of our list did we have to take down all the halloween kates just to celebrate this kate i don't know but either way hope you're having a great blurs day kate and finally riley says i'm writing to wish a happy blursday to my girlfriend minnie it's not that riley luke i heard the breath i'm writing to wish my happy blursday how do you know i'm not excited about this right a lot of a lot of othering going on on the show today jeez i just thought i heard this is why we can't have nice things when we mentioned the name riley off i thought you were excited because we have a listening riley who's been you know kind of a part of the show for a long time and has been on the show and i thought you were excited about that i heard a intake of breath. Did I legitimately misidentify what that intake of breath was, Luke? No, you identified. Okay, but this Riley says.

But now it seems like we are not excited for this Riley, and we're very excited

for this Riley. I am. You know what I'm going to call this, I'm going to say Smart Riley, Handsome Riley says, I'm writing to wish, Smart and Handsome Riley says, I'm writing to wish a happy Blur's Day to my girlfriend, Minnie, whose birthday is this Friday. Minnie is a smart, thoughtful, and funny woman, And I'm super lucky just to know her Happy Blur's Day Mini from Riley Great name by the way It really is, absolutely

We don't have a lot of Minis I feel like I don't know any folks Since Mini Pearl Who I was good friends with

I don't know any other Minis Well there's Mini Driver And then there's a cartoon mouse I believe

Well happy Blur's Day to everyone

Yeah, it was a short but fun Blurs Day segment.

And apologies to everyone that we besmirched accidentally during that segment. Yeah, I know.

There's just a lot of—

I'm going to say to any of our APM colleagues who are listening, that was regrettable, and we don't usually do that.

They stopped listening. I mean, trust me, if they checked out the show for like 10 minutes, they're gone now. They have shows to produce.

I don't want to—and this doesn't count for our colleagues, John or Annie. No. But if anyone else from APM is still listening, email us. And I'm not, don't, like, seriously, listeners, please be cool. Nobody, like, reach out to, like, I am very curious. If a single person who was on the call with us today who is not John or Annie is still listening, I would be fascinated to hear from you.

Yeah. Don't let us know what you think of the show. Just let us know. No, no, no, no.

I don't, please. No notes. Just raise your hand. I want to send you a TBTL Johnny and Bobo doll set yeah I want to send you a lunchbox

you have a lot of lunchboxes

alright thanks for listening everyone we will be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you till then have a great Thursday take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall

and good luck to all Hey Lloyd, do some delivery for the truck to the airport. Power out.