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#3807 A Worm Welcome
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#3807 A Worm Welcome

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

November 3, 2022 | 01:39:35 | Leisure, Comedy

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Kitten talk is back! Luke had to take Bubbles to the vet today for her big spaying operation, and Andrew had quite the scare with Bingo last night. Plus, a deadly snake has gone missing from Missouri's "Venom Fest," and that can't be good, right?
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Every single piece I curate is bespoke.

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Ooh, bespoke. I love that word. What does it mean again?

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Bespoke? Bespoke. Uh, it's when an object bespeaks. Right. It betalks. It, no, wait. It beteaches us something about ourselves.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Thank you. I think I have my pull quote. TBTL.

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Giddy up. We're jumping on the audio wagon today, everybody.

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I say, I say, what up, dog? Let the fun begin. That's a tune-up, bro. I just feel like I'm excited and I feel relaxed and I'm ready to party

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You win the best of round. We're just a bunch of savages, right? We're not like your fancy California friends, your George Clooney and your California raisins.

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We're the number one show in hospitals and on sinking riverboat casinos.

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All right, let's toss the ball around.

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Okay.

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All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of TVTL. The show just might be beautiful to live. What are those guys really like? They're honestly so nice. I knew it. My name is Luke Purbank. I am your host.

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Hi, everybody.

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Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, where we're actually looking at a nice dry day.

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Now who's in charge winter dryness?

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It's quite a relief after lots and lots of rain, and I think lots of rain to come. I saw a stat on the internet yesterday about the volume of water that is about to descend on the Pacific Northwest. And I feel like it was in the trillions of gallons or something. It was like a shocking amount of water. And so it's nice to have this little dry day. If I sound slightly distracted, it's because there is something going on with Bubbles, my beloved cat.

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A cat is an angel that poops in a box.

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She is right now getting an elective, I want to stress, elective surgery as we speak. We may need emergency surgery in the studio. It's just a little light rhinoplasty with a mommy makeover. She just felt like, she didn't feel like herself anymore at nine months, and she just thought things were starting to sag, so she wanted to kind of tighten it up. She's actually getting spayed right now, and so I've sort of got that on the mind. She's a few blocks from me, the world's most complicated veterinary clinic, which we might talk about later, getting that procedure done. So hopefully that goes okay for her, and hopefully this goes okay for all of us. Episode 3807, 3,807 in a collector series.

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Let the fun begin.

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We tried to get to this yesterday and ran out of time. There is a new cheating scandal on a fairly obscure game. You play to win the game. The game is cornhole, which is apparently a professional sport of sorts that we will talk about. Also, things have gone predictably awry at the Venom Fest in Missouri.

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My motto is to catch a snake, become a snake. Think like a snake and be a snake.

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We'll bring you the latest from that situation. And because it's a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day.

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It's my birthday today.

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We'll do some Blur's Day messages. And we'll talk to this guy, the longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. I would say his enthusiasm, well, it's going to touch all of us today.

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It's contagious, bro. Like, it's really f***ing contagious.

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He's Andrew Walsh, and he is joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

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I love that you used that to be a snake, to catch a snake. You gotta be a snake, think like a snake.

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I believe I got that from you.

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You and I, yeah, I pulled that when we were working together at Cairo on the morning show. I don't remember. This is the curse, right? I remember pulling that tape and just falling in absolute love with it and just playing it as much as I could, not on the radio, just for myself. I had a I had a playlist on my iPod of just that drop over and over and over again. But I can't remember the details of the story. It was not from these parts that I'm quite sure of. It was about a snake hunter, I believe.

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It definitely sounds like a story similar to Venom Fest, where a snake got loose and they brought this feller in.

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My motto is to catch a snake, become a snake. Think like a snake and be a snake.

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I feel like, and I could just be totally making this up, my brain just playing tricks on me, but I feel like it was some story where a town really did deputize everybody to go out and kill snakes, a la The Simpsons episode.

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of that exact

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The St. Patrick's Day episode, right?

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Oh, was it? I didn't remember that aspect of it but I feel like that's why we were interested in the story was a town was almost doing what they had done in The Simpsons as a joke.

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Or it's from the director's commentary from the movie Snakes on a Plane and it's one of the snakes who they don't have any dialogue in the film but this was them kind of behind the scenes cup of coffee sitting in one of those kind of like high chairs getting their makeup done and my motto is to catch a snake become a snake think like a snake and be a snake oh by the way speaking of unsettling invertebrate things do you have a moment for me to talk to you about a meme that is leaving me feeling quite upset

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i'm kind of in a rush here i thought we were just going to try to do a short show today just a few minutes say hello you can cancel top stories again we've been getting in the habit of that lately bottom stories yeah what does this mean can you please google heidi klum worm costume oh i know about the worm costume are you kidding me heidi klum's worm i never know amazing i never

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know the flotsam and jetsam of pop culture that is going to float past your eyeballs because that one seemed very like first of all i don't see you as a klum head and also you're not a halloween person so i've just assumed that that you would have no sense of that whole thing but i mean is that not one of the more troubling things you've ever seen but it's amazing too i mean i love it

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here's the thing i didn't do is i didn't read anything about it i know that she has halloween parties that she looks forward to and they're kind of red carpet events and so she dressed up like this worm and it's not even like if somebody hasn't seen this i can't explain it to you this is not like oh it's a cardboard worm costume i mean this is like hollywood prosthetic she is just on the ground as a ginormous worm and you can just barely make out her face in the makeup kind of in the middle of the worm it is it is astounding and i'm just waiting has anybody written the piece yet about why this is bad that's what i would i sound like such a sound such a conservative radio host or something but i was kind of like canceled over the worm i was just like somebody somewhere has some take about why this is bad for body image or or something i

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wasn't sure about that i'm i feel like she really have picked may have picked a costume that there is absolutely no pushback on other than maybe from the worm community who so far have remained relatively uh silent it's a warm appropriation though my eight hearts and ability to regenerate myself have cut in half is not your costume i believe is the statement from the worms of america our culture is not your costume heidi now i have a i have a hunch that this is absolutely not going to deliver but now that so the the joke was and again i'm with you like it is a spectacular piece of prosthetic and costuming she looks like imagine like mitch mcconnell mixed with like a some version of like i don't know the cheshire cat from alice in wonderland or actually really more aptly this character that i once i wouldn't say almost played but it was the end of me really trying hard to be an actor in local commercials it was the money tree caterpillar so there was a local payday lending place in seattle called money tree yeah and my my agent at the time topo Swope of Topo Swope talent sent around a sort of an email to a list of her actors who might be right for the the part of the money tree caterpillar and the the detail about the audition you had to be a certain height and weight because they weren't going to buy a new costume and that was when I was like that this is not for me like if I'm gonna have to squeeze into this sweaty caterpillar costume that's five other actors have worn over the last 20 years and then paint my face

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green and then go money tree and they're not really and you didn't get the impression that

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they're really willing to invest in the talent i mean actually i think it probably paid okay because it was a it was you know it was a they shot a lot of commercials so i think it was a decent payday if you got it but i mean at what cost i just like the idea though that they're

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just like well the costume stays the people can change which i mean i guess that makes sense i mean any mascot at a at a high school or whatever there you got to fit the costume but like this is a they're looking for their person to be the worm right and it's just like couldn't you add that to be the worm you've got to think like a worm you've got to act like a worm you'd be the worm um yeah and i just sort of feel like they could have they if they were really going to invest in this find the right person to be the worm and then build around that I think

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the reason and this is the absolutely most boring place to take

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this i think the reason that they would have to pay you decent was because it might have been a union shoot or the people in the thing were what you call fi core which is financial core meaning even if it's not a union shoot you're generally getting paid along the lines of what a union shoot would would get paid so i think there were certain i believe the people from i think the predatory lending people have given the option would have underpaid the caterpillar but i think they were i think they were bound by certain you know rules anyway back to heidi klum so she looks part mitch mcconnell part me if i had been the money tree caterpillar but it is an incredible outfit but the maybe the wildest part is so this person dressed as a fisher as an angler i actually don't even know what the gender of the person playing the fisher person is but someone's like a uh an angler with like a fishing pole and then heidi klum's as the worm is on the end of the line and this worm suit is massive by the way it's not like i mean i don't know how tall heidi klum is but let's she's probably like six feet tall she's a model this costume's got to be like 10 feet long oh yeah long yeah it's huge so the the wildest part is they're interviewing heidi klum on the red carpet of her own halloween party that she throws every year and this is her sort of reveal i think she had multiple costumes on this evening this is her reveal as the worm again i'm getting this off of like some local news so i don't know if it's going to actually be the part that i'm hoping it will be or just like uh them voicing it over but when they interview Heidi Klum now again you really need the visual on this but picture if you're listening to the podcast hit pause google this and then just have this picture of what Heidi Klum looks like in this outfit and then how much she doesn't do any special voice is really wild to me I just wanted to be

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something random I wanted to think outside of the box and you know now she is lying on the red

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carpet it's actually a blue carpet she is lying on the blue carpet fully wormed out being interviewed by somebody from the associated press who's down on the ground with her and this is how she's

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talking i thought a rain worm would be kind of fun we all know worms but um i don't think i've

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ever seen anyone being a rain worm before so like something about the fact that she's not doing a character she is just still heidi klum inside this worm costume is really really uncanny to me yeah

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I had not heard that audio. I think I did see, though, a clip of her. Maybe it was there a clip going around of her in the worm costume, but upright and like next to a DJ in the DJ booth.

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Just sort of like, yes, I believe the DJ. It might be quest love. Oh, I think she's looming behind quest love. And it's just like so what's happened is, I mean, and again, I I'm sounding like I'm trying to yuck Heidi Klum's yum. And I would never do so because I do. I'm with you. This is an incredible piece of Hollywood makeup, et cetera, costuming, all of that. But now that it's been meme-ified, now that just like kind of a tight shot of the worm face is just showing up in all these other contexts, like, you know, me when I, you know, my alarm doesn't go off and it's, you know what I mean? Just like me when I don't have my Zoom camera on. Like everyone's just meme-ifying it and it means that I just keep seeing it when I'm not fully prepared for it and it's really throwing me.

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The equivalent of looking down at your camera and not realizing that the forward-facing.

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I mean, and by the way, that's literally what I look like when I take an accidental photo of myself. Hey, that's your meme then. Quick, tweet that out. I'll feed you another meme. Well, I don't know. Last time I took one of your hot tweets and tweeted it out, I realized later that it sounded extremely dirty. Yeah, you directed people to WikiFeed, right? But the problem was I used the wrong terminology. It was still a solid joke, but I realized like a day later when I looked back on it, I said something like, well, I guess we have to get off, people. Meet me here. And then WikiFeet. I meant leave Twitter, get off of Twitter. But I said, well, I guess we have to get off, folks, comma, I'll see you over here. WikiFeet, which was much dirtier sounding than I intended it to be.

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The only thing I noticed, because I looked at it during the show, was you also, like, you didn't paste the link. I mean, not to pile on, but you didn't paste the link in, right, either. You didn't leave a space between your last word and the link, so the link didn't even actually work. Did you notice that?

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Well, I also misspelled the word well intentionally. You did this during the show, right?

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Isn't that what happened?

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I wanted it to be intentionally kind of janky so as to try to achieve comedic effects. So to me, it wasn't that it needed to literally – in fact, I think it was probably better that it wasn't linking people to WikiFeet if maybe that's something that would be a little racy for them or whatever. I don't know. i was i wanted it to be janky on purpose but but what i didn't intend for it to be was looking almost like i either got hacked like if you didn't hear that episode of tbtl or like i i it was a little too subtle and weird and i also used the words get

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off without meaning to in that context and so i ended up just well i gave you gold and you turned

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it into poop so i don't know what to tell you but anyway yeah what you need to do is tweet that picture out of heidi klum is the worm and just say it's it's like me when i'm on the 48 freeway i'm sorry i'm it's like me when i look down at my phone and i don't know the cameras comedy writer i just tried to steal as much kyle mooney as possible gas prices here we go i keep thinking

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about that we were talking about this the other day on the show how like you know gas prices may be the the an extremely important part of this midterm election and therefore potentially the future of democracy in this country not to put too much pressure on everyone but as that topic It comes up. All I can hear is Kyle Mooney as Bruce Chanley saying, gas prices?

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Wow. Wait, does he even say anything after gas prices? Maybe not.

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It depends on how the cut goes on this kind of fake trailer they've made. Do you have it there? Do you want me to play it here? Could you play it from there? I'm busy tweeting a picture of Heidi Klum. Dairy. Gas prices. Whoa. Sit and twist it just how we like it. Organic dog food. is it legal to be this insane my family so what are you tweeting there you're are you actually it's a picture of Heidi Klum what you're you actually doing this I was doing I'm doing it Andrew I'm you told you told me it was gold I didn't I was being sarcastic because

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you were literally complaining about everybody turning this into a meme and now I know but now

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But I think you had a good idea. I want to see. I think this is an interesting experiment, too. I feel like the last time we tried this, it didn't go particularly well. But I'm willing to try it again because I do think it's a funny idea. So I'm typing, man, does this photo get me off?

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People will get it. People will get it. That's great. You know what? And then just almost link to Wiki feed anyway.

00:17:16 - 00:17:32 | Speaker 1:

let's see. So you're composing the tweet now? It's happened, and throughout the show, now we have what they call a plot line. Now we have, when you tweet a Heidi Klum in the first act of a TV show, you better delete the tweet by the end of the show, I believe is.

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You know, I just want to point out one quick observation here. This conversation started with you, or you mentioned in the conversation that you were kind of sick of seeing this meme or that it was upsetting to you popping up, But then you made a meme yourself out of it. I almost feel like, Luke, the worm has turned.

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Oh, that's good. Okay, that's my follow-up tweet. I had to. Can I reply to my own tweet saying, do you all feel like the worm has turned on this?

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No, no, I'll tweet. You already tweeted yours. I'll reply to your tweet right now. And this will be, man, we are.

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Nothing gets me off like worms turning.

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This is how content is made. Absolutely. us working together to dominate

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social media. Listen, somebody named EpicSaxGorillaStan has already liked this, Andrew, so we could

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be on to something. Yeah, I know that. I know that person. I see that person on Twitter quite a bit.

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So, it's fine. Finally, as this platform burns, I'm finally getting some hit tweets out there. I do wonder if more and more

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people, this is counterintuitive, but I wonder if more and more people drop off of Twitter, that will put more eyeballs on your twitter and potentially you could almost counter-intuitively get more reactions to your stuff because your content won't be as diluted as it was before when people like with other guy for the tweeting the other guy from bill and ted's excellent adventure making the announcement that alex winter yes he's no longer on twitter uh i mean i i've we've been talking

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about this a lot uh over the last few days so i don't need to belabor it but i do i think for me i've really created the i guess the rule if you will i like what you said which was this see how the experience changes or if it changes of being on twitter um and then you know make the decision based on that which i think is right now honestly other than people decrying twitter and saying they're leaving it it doesn't feel a whole lot different to me it's basically me retweeting your jokes and getting limited interaction as it's always been but i think for me it's like if he lets trump back on i think i'm out like that's just kind of that's i mean i don't like elon musk and i think he uh it sucks for all the reasons that everybody already kind of understands about him but if he lets that bully back on here and gives him the megaphone again i think that will just be for me just that will be such a i think that's such an affront to our national sort of dialogue and discourse and Again. Again, future as a democracy, that that would be worth for me walking away from my small bit of like, you know, clout.

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Dumb question. Why hasn't he yet? I assume that Trump was back on and I just wasn't getting the tweets.

00:20:14 - 00:20:52 | Speaker 1:

I think I mean, I think he is taking his time with at least that aspect of it. I mean, he's already retweeted virulent rumors about Nancy Pelosi's husband's attack, things like that. But I do think he is supposedly formulating some kind of a – well, first of all, he's busy laying off half of the people at Twitter. And then the other thing is I think he's talking about creating some content council, which I assume will be him and the two people from Deantward and, you know, Stuffed.

00:20:52 - 00:20:57 | Speaker 2:

Wait, are they actually – are you just saying that because they're kind of weirdos or are they actually –

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Well, they're also South African, and also I just thought that would be a very – that would just be bizarre if it's, like, that's who it is. It's Elon Musk and the two people from D.M. Ford.

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Okay. I just wanted to make sure that we don't know that they're out there, like, on the wrong side of history on things.

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I don't know anything about their – anything about them at this point, about their politics or their, you know, whatever it might be. I was just reaching for a bizarre-looking assemblage of people. I like it. I like it. It's like – it's one of those Boston Dynamic robots. The dog one. It's the people from DeAntwoord and Elon Musk.

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And Heidi Klum in the worm outfit.

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Heidi Klum is the worm.

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I mean, I was just picturing that. If you like me to tweet that, that could actually be a hit. Somebody Photoshop that.

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I don't like that your Oh How the Worm has turned currently has two likes, and I think my tweet only has one link. Is that true? You're drafting off of me. You're drafting off of the tweet that you also wrote.

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no no no no no no no no do you got you know i hate the fact that you were right that this has actually become a plot line that was supposed to be a joke all of this was supposed to be sarcasm but we don't know where to draw the line so it's all becoming real no no you're up to six likes luke that's amazing good i mean i should say i'm up to six likes you are i mean honestly

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it's your joke my friend um uh let's do this let's take a quick break uh so we can try to hit these top stories and i can update you on um on bubbles a situation today and what's going on with that i mean it's all like i said planned it's not like she didn't have an accident or something this was on the schedule but still it's got me got me feeling a little you know you drop your cat off to go in for general anesthetic and all the stuff that you have to sign and in case of you know this going wrong i mean i know it's not a human being uh but still it was like oh wow This feels slightly more intense than I was expecting it to. So we'll talk about that coming up in a moment here on TBTL. All right, let's thank our daily donors, these wonderful folks for making this episode of TBTL possible thanks for their financial support. By the way, we have some doings around the holidays and kind of this time of year that we are currently planning out and talking to our dear colleague, John Sklaroff, about. So watch this space because we're going to have some fun stuff coming up as a bit of a thanks to you, the tens of listeners, and in particular to the folks that are able to throw a little bit of financial support our way. Folks like Kathy Walquist of Orangevale, California.

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Orange Vale, California Take me there I want to be in an orchard

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Yes, where all the oranges are getting married Grove And they have a veil on Thanks, Kathy Missy and Joe Boyle are in Watertown, Massachusetts Watertown What do we know about Watertown? Did you ever hear a Billy Joel song about that?

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It seems like there should be That's a Jersey That's Watertown in Jersey I'm wondering There's no chance this would be Waterton, is it? Even though it's spelled town Well, see, I defer to you.

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I've only been to Massachusetts like maybe two times in my life.

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I like to call it the come-hither state. I'm just making this up now. But Massachusetts has, you know, the, oh, what's the word for the, it's not a peninsula, but archipelago coming off of it like that. So it's like a finger.

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A channel of a bunch of small islands?

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I feel like it. Isn't that what's coming off of Massachusetts? And it sort of looks like a finger doing the come-hither curl, like come here.

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Okay, so this is – I thought Come Hither was because, like, you and Veeves were dating early, and she was saying, come hither to Massachusetts to date me more. Well, she just kept –

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I don't know if that's an archipelago because – well, we just had this conversation about the cape recently, so let me not get back into this. But whatever that is. Oh, I've got some thoughts, Andrew, about Martha's Vineyard. I've got some thoughts about Woods Hole. Come hither to Woods Hole. Don't Google that, by the way. Thanks, Missy and Joe. Thanks also to Will Galeon of Kenmore, Washington. Home of the Angry Moose. No, the Savage Moose. The Savage Moose. Never went back there. We should, if it's still there. I wonder. I wonder if the Jack in the Box is still there. did they have jack-in-the-box across the street that i remember you know because that turn i think i forget now the name of that you're on like you're on lake city way which turns into boffle way i believe but there's the left there i forget what street that is but that was the left to go to my church growing up so hundreds i mean actually thousands of times in my life we sat at that intersection waiting to turn left and i would stare at this jack-in-the-box that was i don't think it's actually a cross street i think it's on the same side of the street as the savage moose and this was in the day andrew and we've talked about this on the show but i feel like i'm part of a very select group of people who remember this there was a weird period of a year or two where jack in the box changed its name to monterey jacks really and they redid all of the signs and the imaging and everything and i remember one day just looking up and seeing that jack in the box Was Monterey Jacks and just being stunned By that and then I don't know However long a year later it was like back to Being Jack in the Box

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It was 1985 according to the Jack in the Box It's not even the Wikipedia page There's a special wiki site For Jack in the Box

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Jack's feet being on there

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And it says Monterey Jacks was a short lived Rebranding of Jack in the Box in 1985 It was designed to Appeal to mature quote Yuppie customers and their insatiable demand for all things monterey somebody's having fun at the end places where clint eastwood is the mayor oh is that where he was the mayor i didn't know that well carmel but

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that's i think in monterey county i see um like that's a very what what again i apologize for just recycling this conversation from however many years ago like the last time it came up but what i find really amazing about this story is that they they tried this thing it didn't work and then they went back to jack-in-the-box you would have thought they would have tried like another like a third branding like you you would have thought they could have just gone down this road of where they're constantly changing their name every year trying to catch the next trend or whatever it sort of takes a certain amount of guts to just be like nope that was a really bad idea and now we're gonna like put our tail between our legs and go see if some of those jack-in-the-box signs are still around somewhere well can we get those out of the landfill and put them back up

00:27:50 - 00:28:09 | Speaker 1:

they had a whole campaign and i'm trying to remember what they needed to apologize for but i feel like jack in the box has done this e coli poisoning was that it where they came back and they had a whole commercial campaign that was basically like kind of apologizing and saying like give us another chance right and that is that maybe around the time yeah and that actually was one of the

00:28:09 - 00:28:46 | Speaker 2:

people who died was in seattle actually it was a very uh local it felt like a very local story yeah there was, they had, um, uh, you know, an E. coli breakout and, uh, and, and somebody passed away, which is again, I mean, and I don't want to sound at all glib about somebody losing their life, but think about the things this restaurant chain has been through. They changed their name to the wrong thing. No one liked it. They went back to their old name. They unintentionally poisoned people and just because they sell two tacos for 99 cents their business has continued unabated

00:28:46 - 00:29:02 | Speaker 1:

you know this e coli thing is much more recent than what i'm talking about so i they had some ad campaign that they wait much more recent wasn't that in like 90 oh was it oh maybe i'm wrong okay i saw an article here from 2015 so i thought that the e coli thing was 2015 so maybe that is what

00:29:02 - 00:29:42 | Speaker 2:

i'm thinking of sorry to keep muddling this um i yeah i remember uh uh the 1992-93 jack-in-the-box e-coli outbreak okay the um is the one that i was thinking of which again is was just very much on my radar because it it happened in seattle so it was i mean it was a national story but then it also uh it it was being reported locally a ton i almost i don't i'm trying to remember i feel like It might have even been like a jack-in-the-box. Well, I guess it was a number of them. And anyway, whatever. I'm now on something called foodsafetynews.com, which we should all read each morning before we take on our day.

00:29:42 - 00:29:48 | Speaker 1:

Hey, tweet out. I'm leaving this Twitter website. Meet me over at foodnutrition.com.

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Foodsafety.biz will do. Most of this is just to say thanks to Will Galien of Kenmore. Also thanks to Zach Hofstad of Tumwater, Washington.

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where I believe they used to make Olympia beer. I think there was a brewery in Tumwater that was where Olympia beer was made. I don't see a lot of Olympia beer. Also, I feel like it should have been made in Olympia, but whatever. Well, Tumwater is sort of part of the greater Olympia area. And now you can go to this little I think there's a restaurant called The Falls Restaurant, which looks out over this where a river is running and going through some waterfalls. And I think when you're at the Falls restaurant You can look up and see what used to be The Olympia Brewing Company And it was cool because it had like a river Running through the building Which I presume was where they would get the water To put in the beer It felt very integrated

00:30:40 - 00:30:47 | Speaker 2:

That's amazing Yeah because didn't they say on their label Like it's all about the water Or something like that on Olympia

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No they said it isn't about the water Oh wait that was a bagel company

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Do you know what I'm talking about though Didn't it say all about the water Am I wrong about that too

00:30:54 - 00:31:22 | Speaker 1:

That's very possible All I remember from that era is hams the beer refreshing hams that was the slogan well that was for ham which is a different beer yeah yeah but so so maybe the olympia beer um slogan was it's the water i'm looking um let's see olympia brewery tum water let me just see because i may have also just hallucinated this whole thing no the old olympia brewery which is in tum water washington um i wonder what it is now

00:31:22 - 00:31:26 | Speaker 2:

And their slogan was, it's the water Nice, well there you go

00:31:26 - 00:32:14 | Speaker 1:

So that makes perfect sense, because look where they were Perched right on that river Anyway, thank you, Zach Thanks also to Doug Rademacher In St. Louis, Missouri Doug I'm going to tell you later about something called Venom Fest Which happened in your state And which would cause me to want to Advise you to be very careful where you step Don't go out of the house and bare feet right now Don't go out of the house Actually just stay in the house And listen to TBTL And continue supporting the program Because we really do need it And we appreciate you Then we've got Gabriel Rosencutter Of Philadelphia PA Heck yeah Gabriel I have a lot to say About last night's baseball game It was hard for all of us

00:32:14 - 00:33:15 | Speaker 2:

You've been watching him I haven't really been watching him Trying to keep an eye on the score And then, like, I listened to, like, the 10th inning, the other of, I guess, game one or whatever. But I kind of was like, you know, I almost reached for the radio or the TV to watch. And then I was like, you know what? Like, I want the Astros to lose really bad. I want the Phillies to win, but I want the Astros to lose more. And I started doing this math. I'm like, so I've dedicated the last six months of my life to baseball obsession. And now I don't really have a Doug on this flight, as we say. and the happiness I will feel of the Astros losing is not commensurate to the pain I will feel if the Astros win and if I'm invested in it that's an interesting calculation and so I'm like you know what I'm just not going to get too invested I'm definitely rooting for Philly generally speaking but I'm not really and this is why I think I maybe I'm not a baseball fan but maybe I'm just a Mariners fan and there maybe is a difference there because like I feel like I don't want to get emotionally involved in something that I don't have to get emotionally involved with that's going to potentially make me feel bad

00:33:15 - 00:34:20 | Speaker 1:

Well, I want to preface this by saying peace and love to our listeners in Houston. We love you and we treasure you. And our animus towards this baseball team has nothing to do with how we think of you as human beings. Unless you provided the trash cans that they banged on. Yeah, exactly. Were I to be living in Houston and excited that my baseball team is doing well and then my favorite podcast was just absolutely roasting us every day, that wouldn't be a good feeling. So I'm not trying to create that sensation. I do think that's an interesting calculation that you're making, Andrew, because I may need to make the same one because it has been – I was – you know, I think of the Phillies as being kind of another team. Any team from Philadelphia is always going to seem rootable for me because of my mom being from there and because of my sort of strong connection to that part of the world. And so the idea that the Astros, who I have a lot of kind of anger towards, are playing a team that I have a lot of love for the city, it seemed like this was almost – other than the Mariners going, this was actually the world – you couldn't design a World Series that I was going to have more interest in.

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No, that's interesting. Right?

00:34:21 - 00:35:45 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. Because if it had been the Braves playing the Astros, I would have been, of course, rooting for the Braves, but it wouldn't feel like, oh, my Uncle Chuck and my Aunt Kathy, like I can just picture my Uncle Johnny losing his mind over the Phillies. So I've been watching the games, and so the Phillies went up 2-1, and that made me feel very happy. But last night was rough. It was a no-hitter. That's why I heard a combined no-hitter. Is that right? A combined no-hitter, so the Phillies got zero hits. I texted our friend Chris Hayes today. This is why no one should ever support. And I'm very happy to mention I didn't see this bet. I didn't try to take this bet. But this is why sports betting can make you insane. So some online sports book yesterday was offering a bet, right? The bet was the combined number of three-pointers made by the Philadelphia 76ers with hits by the Philadelphia Phillies, okay? So you were going to be betting on a number. The over-under was 19 and a half. So you were either going to bet that the combined number of hits by the Phillies and combined with the number of three-pointers made by the 76ers, that there was either going to be under 20 or over 20, basically.

00:35:46 - 00:35:55 | Speaker 2:

And you want me to take a stab at that? Because the thing is, I don't watch basketball, so I don't know what the average, like what a normal three-point volume is in a game.

00:35:55 - 00:36:13 | Speaker 1:

I don't know what the exact average is, but I will put it this way. 19 would be a shockingly high number of three-pointers to be made by an NBA team in a game. Like, that would be off the charts. Yeah. My guess, I don't have the stats in front of me. My guess would be you might get around, I don't know, depending on the team, 8 to 10.

00:36:13 - 00:36:16 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, like in this maybe Golden State level, that's like, is there...

00:36:16 - 00:37:43 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, somebody that just like is, you know, they just jack up a lot of shots. So, let's just say you take this bet. So you're saying and let me just mention an average baseball game like you might get you probably get between eight and 10 hits by the end of the game, you know, and if you're having a good night, it could be more. I mean, 10 would be fairly, I'd say kind of the ceiling. But the again, the over under is is 19 and a half. So let's just say that you had taken the over. You were saying, guess what? The Philadelphia Phillies are going to get 10 hits and the 76 are going to just go off. they're going to go off and they're going to get 12 three-pointers well that's 23 that means the number is going to be larger that means you're taking the over so let's say you had that bet and you're watching the sixers game on one channel and the sixers make 19 three-pointers oh god really that's the whole number they made 19 three-pointers but it's 19 and a half you said right so you got to get 20 all you need is for the phillies to get one hit andrew oh right sure yeah and they get no hit they get no hit the second no hitter in the history of the world series imagine you have that bet and the and the sixers hit 19 three-pointers like they did the it's over it is over like that's the bet they got 19 the only thing that gets you there is if for the second time in the history of organized professional baseball there's a no hitter in the

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World Series and that's what happened oh my god and then the next thing you know you have to return oh shoot I can't remember who's who's the basketball player in Uncut Gems he's got his watch Kevin Garnett and you've got Kevin Garnett's watch is the joke I was going to make if I could have

00:38:00 - 00:40:29 | Speaker 1:

remembered Kevin I made a Uncut Gems joke on Twitter some time ago which was Lamar Jackson the quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens was doing a post-game interview and he had on this very jewel-encrusted necklace that wasn't quite a Furby, but it was almost, which is one of the things that the Howie character in Uncut Gems is selling. There's this particular piece of jewelry that Kevin Garnett has that Kevin Garnett thinks is bringing him luck, but then of course Howie's trying to get it back because he needs it to pawn so he can get more money because he's got a gambling addiction. By the way, Howie would be the kind of person who would have taken the over on that absolutely yeah and watching it had the fills hit no get no hit it but i was like something like uh lamar jackson has to have this necklace back to howie in midtown by 11 tonight right it felt right out of uncut gems but anyway thanks so that's that's my way of saying thank you to our donors of the day for making this thing possible and thank you to my intuition for not betting the over in the phillies 76ers situation hello and welcome to top story all right um just to kind of finish out the thoughts on the old cat going to the old vet um i took her over there this morning she is uh being spayed now i have had uh i mean i i olive the cat that i used to live with i was spayed as well but i mean carrie must have just taken her in and i guess i wasn't as aware of the kind of you know what was going on with that i might have even been out of town i'm not sure so this was my first time i think personally like getting up this morning looking at the cat realizing that she has no idea that in three hours she's going to be heavily sedated and then like putting her into her little care Thank you.

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trying to play with her and have extra fun with her this morning like okay well let's get your yayas out as much as possible because like after the surgery she's supposed to basically low-key it for like 10 days which i don't know how you do that with a bangle like uh you know i mean i think probably like today will be okay because i bet you she'll be real groggy from the surgery but then going forward i don't really know how i'm i mean i'm i've taken some a few steps the one thing is that there's this um rocking chair that is her favorite place to like sleep and hang out but she has to jump to get on it so i've like turned that over so she's not going to be tempted to jump on it i've got her what we call her protest blanket out it's a blanket that she has had ever since she was like a week old kitten i got it from the people i got her from and it smelled like her mom so that's why we kept it and anytime i i always fold it very neatly and i put it on the floor in case she wants to sleep on it at night and then every morning when i get up she is dragged into the middle of the room like for no apparent reason like that's why i called her protest blanket she just drags it around the house i think to try to tell me that she's not happy that i've been

00:41:10 - 00:41:19 | Speaker 1:

ignoring her for or it's her comfort blanket like the little you know we heard from a listener whose brother when he was a child carried around a blanket and then ended up carrying around a

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little piece of that blanket maybe that's but it's not like but the i mean that would be i hope that's what's going on but it's not like she doesn't sleep on it and she's not like dragging it to another part of the house and then lying on it it's just she's just dragged it somewhere randomly and then left it there like i don't know attica attica or something but anyway uh so i i have to say i took her over there this morning and it was a little bit more like it was kind of like and she has this you know i have this cat carrier for her that's actually a backpack it's very cool i would recommend this for anyone who has a cat and you take them a lot of places it's a i got it on amazon but it's a backpack that then actually unzips to be like a full like pretty large cat carrier so if they if you were going somewhere and they had to stay in it you could open it up so that they have a pretty decent amount of room to kind of hang out in but then it also compresses down to just being a backpack um that has you know mesh on it and stuff so they can see the world so the like um vet tech has the backpack on and is walking down the hall and then bubbles is like looking at me through the mesh and oh my god wow i know it's like you have no and again i don't think it's i don't have any reason to believe this will go poorly but it was it was a kind of an intense moment now the reason i said in my intro that's the world's most complicated vet clinic is because they have a canine door and a feline door now that makes perfect sense under like pre-pandemic stuff because you probably don't want If people are bringing their cats in, they could get kind of spooked by people having their dogs there or whatever. It's actually probably kind of a nice feature. The problem is now they are very, very – and I guess this is a good thing, I will say. This is a vet hospital that is incredibly careful about COVID stuff. So it's locked all the time. You cannot walk there and open the door and come sit in the waiting area or the lobby. you're like you're in your car you're texting them you're waiting for them to text you back you're calling them on the phone and then they're like okay you do this whole intake thing over the phone like you're just not seeing anyone in person which again i think if that protects the folks that work there that's great i i you know salute them the problem is this morning i get there and i'm getting passed around on the phone for multiple people and then i'm answering all these questions over the phone that i already answered online by the way and then finally like okay come to the feline entrance and i'm like and they're like and then ring the bell or they didn't even say ring the bell they were like knock on the door at the feline entrance i'm like okay so i get bubbles in the backpack or she was actually already in there i walk over i press this doorbell button that says press for service nothing happens there is a front desk in front of me that's totally empty and then like 10 feet away there's the canine desk where there's totally a person working and there are no dogs in sight no one's there with a dog no one's in the lobby with the dog it's just me at the feline entrance where there's no feline secretary and then the canine

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entrance which again the person could totally see me is sitting at the canine desk and by the way you can walk there's like there's nothing stopping it's not like there's a wall i just was at the i was at the cat entrance and the other person was working the dog entrance and i'm just standing there for like 15 minutes like huh okay and then finally the tech came was like oh oh here let me let you in and i was there was something about the person at the canine entrance looking at me but not just getting up and letting me come in that felt a little odd to me a little weird

00:44:51 - 00:46:20 | Speaker 1:

yeah i kind of can't i can't picture all of that we started taking um theo to the vet or he kind got sick. I guess I should say. So we're taking him somewhat frequently during the during the pandemic. And we hadn't been to a vet in a long time before that. So we definitely dealt with like a lot of those COVID rules of like, OK, we have to be outside. Like I was having I kind of forgot about this. Like, yeah, kind of in his final days, there was a lot of like me standing outside in somewhat blustery weather, like looking at the person behind the front desk while I'm talking to them on the other side of a window outside with with Theo in a cat carrier, if you can picture that. that was a very weird vibe too you know one quick thing that was kind of interesting regarding dogs and cats and this is kind of the opposite of what you were saying about like co-mingling when we took bingo who's a boy kitten to the vet the other day because he has this upper respiratory thing that's i think it's pretty much cleared out now but it was lasting a little bit too long and it wasn't kind of recovering in a straight line so we kind of got him in there early and um because he had an upper respiratory infection which is very contagious amongst cats when they found that out they said oh wait we can't put you in one of the cat rooms you have to go into one of the rooms we see dogs in we're going to clean up a room for you because if this thing is really contagious and you know bingo is sneezing and spreading those germs around that are going to stick to something you don't want another cat in there catching it whereas it wouldn't be contagious to a dog isn't

00:46:20 - 00:49:19 | Speaker 2:

that interesting yeah that is i wouldn't have thought that and that's probably another reason that they've got this place set up the way they do and let me just say like this place seems the people that work there actually seem pretty great um uh so i'm not no shade to this place and i'm sure that it's all set up the way it is for a reason but it was just very odd like just imagine it's all the front of this is all glass right so just imagine you're standing at one door and then like 10 feet away is the other door and then you're like and there's nothing happening and there's a person at the desk that relates to the thing that's 10 feet away and no one at the desk that's in front of you and you're just going to stand there until the until somebody lets you in it just felt like it felt like the dog person could have let me in through the feline door and then just gone back to their desk or whatever but i guess that's just how it works over there the point is that um they were they were giving me like the the person who actually did the intake for me was really great because she allayed a lot of my fears um so she was like oh these are some of the kind of add-ons you can do like one of the things is oh you can you know this is the estimate are you okay with the estimate and i was like yes there could be between this amount and this amount and she was like also um some people uh like to get the add-on of the microchipping and i was like well she's actually already microchipped and she said okay there's also this laser add-on for 40 dollars that you can do or not do she was a lot of people don't do it but if you want to hear about i was like yeah it's like after the they stitch up the incision they like treat it with some kind of a laser which is supposed to i guess make it like a little less painful and a little less itchy and so i mean what am i going to do it's like if i can make this cat more comfortable for 40 i'm going to do it so i was like yeah i'll take the laser but then she was like do you want to authorize in case anything does go wrong do you want to authorize us up to a certain dollar amount to do any emergency stuff we need and i was like well this is an unfair question because of course i want you to do whatever you have to do but now i have to put a dollar amount on this cat's life but she was great she was like sometimes people like well she goes the only stuff that sometimes goes wrong is something about baby teeth like that like sometimes we i don't know what it's like sometimes we lose baby teeth inside inside the cat we'll drop a baby tooth into their spleen and then we've got to pull it out that's we've left a few different we've left some medical scissors in there from no she was like she listed like a couple of little small things she was like a hernia an un like a hernia or no an umbilical cord thing a hernia thing and then something about baby teeth she goes but you know what also a lot of people just put zero on that and then we just call you if we have an issue and you can just tell us what you want to do and i was like oh thank god because i was like i don't because i was gonna say five thousand dollars i don't know i was just gonna try to pick a number that i thought would cover every possible bad thing because i really love this cat and but also i like that's a that's a lot of money like you know what i mean i didn't

00:49:19 - 00:49:36 | Speaker 2:

know really how to answer but this person was very nice because they didn't make it sound like well if you don't you don't authorize us to do five thousand dollars of work i mean do you even love the cat she was like giving me all these options as we went along so it ended up being actually a relatively painless process to um to get her in there and well that's where she is

00:49:36 - 00:49:48 | Speaker 1:

right now did they say is there any dollar amount you'd like to put on this in case of emergency and you should know that our vet is a drinker uh very very heavy drink no would is there anything that

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you'd like to add for a tip for the back of the house and i'm not saying you'll get better care but i'm just saying you know we do tend to we're aware we see it i like and you know it's like we're trying to decide which animal

00:50:00 - 00:52:58 | Speaker 1:

to save i um told you that when we got bingo maybe maybe i didn't talk about this i feel like i talked about this with a lot of people maybe it didn't come up on the show you and i talked a bit off the air about it i don't know if it made it onto the show or not oh i don't know if you know what i'm about to say but the idea that when you bring a kitten home um you prepare yourself for or or i will also say if you're bringing a cat that you've had for a while into a new apartment which is something that these and i have a lot of experience with you um you have to expect them to probably go to ground and hide from you for a while and you know usually it goes like this you bring the cat in they're nervous um and they find some place to hide that you didn't even know a cat could get to in the new place and then you are calm for the first two hours but then after like four hours you start freaking out and you think we have to tear this entire house down or no the cat must have just gotten outside and you start freaking out like viz and i told ourselves when we got bingo and when we were bringing him home like there will be a good chance that this cat will find some place to hide and scare the living shit out of us but we just need to remember to be very calm about it because this kind of thing always happens with cats or often happens with cats in our experience um the thing about bingo is he's like genevieve doesn't like this analogy but he's kind of like spicoli from fast times at ridgemont high not that he's like talking like a surfer guy all the time in fact he's got a quite normal meow but like he's just so goddamn chill man he does not tasty waves he loves tasty waves he's not scared of the vacuum he thinks the vacuum's a toy so we vacuum together now like he just is so chill like he the only thing that he sort of does is he's still not quite jumping on my lap he's kind of clawing his way up onto my lap and he's becoming a bigger kitten now and so that's something that we need to um we we need to kind of break the habit on but aside from that like he's just been like if you he'll he's always around you but not an annoying way he's chill he he's never gone to ground he's never hit on us last night veves and i are having a pretty kind of normal night for us i'm like genevieve made some dinner she's in the other room watching tv i'm i've been puttering around the house with my headphones on listening to the lebitard show and you know doing the dishes and then i get into a like a laundry situation i'm doing all the laundry and doing all the folding and then at some point and this is around midnight i go outside just for a second to throw like a recycling box out there and um i mentioned to veves i'm like man veves it is super cold outside your bird bath is frozen over she's got like this kind of shallow water it was just a thin line of ice that i could sort of poke my finger through um but like it was just straight up frozen here last night so i come inside and i'm like veves wow it's really cold out there and again this is a little bit after midnight and she and we comment on that and then she's like where's bingo and i'm like um uh i don't know like i haven't seen him i thought he was sleeping with you no he's not and then we just kind of poke around the house

00:52:58 - 00:55:29 | Speaker 1:

for a little bit and we're like where's bingo like bingo has never disappeared on us before and um you know he does not go outside we're very careful about that but he's as he gets a little bit older he sees us coming in and out of the doors and vives and i have both been a little concerned that one of these days he could make a dash for it if he's feeling adventurous genevieve said with some trick-or-treaters the other night he seemed like he might be looking to kind of make a dash and she had to be very aware of that anyway last night we go from zero to one thousand percent panic mode embarrassingly quickly um we start going around the house we know that he's not the kind of cat that does hide we're opening like you know closets and cupboards anything that maybe we opened for a second and then he got into and then we accidentally closed him up isn't it amazing how quickly it goes from zero to panic in that kind of situation are you but yeah i mean yeah if you were to if you were to see us even though we have told ourselves a million times like this may happen we were expecting something like this to happen on day one or two not week three or four but i mean we explored everywhere in the house and suddenly the house this house which always feels like a lot of house to us as they say in that geico commercial um what is it a progressive commercial that's a lot of house hope you can keep it clean all the ants walking around the new house i love that line geico i think is it geico the ants problem yeah that was like we i think we agreed that was like the high point for those yes yes the ants one was the best and then after that it got bad anyway um i can't tell any story without bringing up a commercial campaign um very quickly this house feels kind of small because we're like there are no more places to hide you know like there's one place in the basement that bananas will go to ground to that we cannot get to her at and sometimes we can't even see her back there but we just know if she's not around she must be back there but i was pretty convinced that bingo was not back there and also adding to this is bingo is not shy like bananas if she's Thank you.

00:55:00 - 00:57:55 | Speaker 2:

freaked out about something she will go hide and she will not respond to your calls sometimes she'll respond to a treat but if she's really freaked out and she sometimes is she will not come like some cats won't um but bingo is just so freaking chill like bingo would not be hiding from us if we're going around the house calling his name calling his name then he should he should you know poke his head out at some point um because he wants the attention so we kind of tear apart the house and we're just like really quickly just like freaking we're just like what is going on and Genevieve at this point is like beside herself now she's she's put on slippers she's going around the house with a flashlight I'm going around outside the house without a flashlight I mentioned the cold weather because of all days like this is the coldest day we've had and now we're picturing our little kitten who's five months old or four months old or whatever outside for the first time somehow got loose and um everything is frozen out there and you just can't help but expect the worst you know and we're also talking just on the show not all that long ago about how there were coyotes in the neighborhood and also i mean i think it's okay for me to say this visa didn't say this explicitly but in moments like this i know that in genevieve's eyes this cat is outside the house and it's my fault and I'm not saying that to be mean to Genevieve but it was very clear and I'm like racking my brain I'm like this makes no sense like I did not let that cat out but Genevieve hasn't been opening doors in her puttering mode and it is true I get into puttering mode I'm taking a I just mentioned I opened the door to throw a box out there we keep our laundry supplies on the little porch outside our house don't steal them anybody so like I have to open the door to grab the soap you know like maybe I opened the door for a split second at some point in my puttering and the cat got out but i cannot imagine that like i know if the cat is down around my ankles right um but genevieve certainly didn't let the cat out because she's been watching tv all night and there's this thing and i can i can tell like i go to comfort her comfort her at one point and it's like i can sort of tell that again she didn't say anything but she's thinking this is your fault asshole i mean maybe she can come on the show and confirm or deny that but i felt like that was an under undercurrent of this whole thing too and i'm gonna say this adventure lasted for about i mean it felt like so long luke but maybe it was like maybe it was a half hour maybe 40 that's actually long i thought you were gonna say five minutes no no it was i'm gonna say probably a half hour maybe four it was a half hour but it felt like 35 no and then at some point i'm in the basement and i was at the point now where we had gone around the yard with flashlights a couple of times we'd gone around the house a million times like there was nothing left to do it was like 12 30 at night but i was like well obviously i'm never sleeping again like this is just like this

00:57:55 - 00:59:40 | Speaker 2:

is my life now like i killed the cat like i just like there's nothing there's no more we can do the cat is nowhere in sight and but also i'm not just going to go to bed and hope for the best in the morning while it's so cold outside and i'm just like kind of just going around the basement looking in places i've already looked a million times just like impotently just like there's nothing to do here but i can't stop looking until i heard the um happiest words i've ever heard in my life from upstairs which was andrew i found him he was in the god damn he was just like in one of our cupboards just like where we keep like the the um oatmeal and pasta and rice and stuff it's a cupboard below the sink sort of so it's like down low at some point and by the way i don't think this was me because i didn't do the cooking i think that genevieve probably had that cupboard open while she was cooking not that it matters i'm not trying to blame her on this but i was just like there's no way i don't think i was in that cupboard all night but the cat probably just put went in there at some point was poking around maybe maybe fell asleep or maybe just like genevieve closed the cupboards doors on him and then bingo being super cool was like huh i guess were doing this for a while and probably fell asleep I have no idea how long he was in that cupboard but Genevieve said that she opened the door and he just was like oh hey and then came trotting out and so that was I gotta say though that I mean it's one of those things where I mean thank God it ended well but when you go through that even for a half hour you're just like I just I just felt like I had stepped up to the edge of a cliff like I just did not know how I was going to possibly live with myself for the next 24 hours you know yeah i i mean i have had a couple nothing that went on

00:59:40 - 00:59:59 | Speaker 1:

that long but i've had a couple moments where like at the house that i'm working on like bubbles because she likes to go down there's like a really kind of gross unfinished basement that you can actually go under the house from like which i wouldn't but she thinks it's really yeah i believe it and so there's been a couple times like where me and my dad are working or something or i go back in and like

01:00:00 - 01:00:45 | Speaker 2:

She's nowhere to be found. And I have that moment of like, you know, freaking out. Luckily, that has lasted for three minutes. I can't imagine 30 minutes at night. Also, the dynamic of a relationship, because I mean, that is something that that is always a factor when when it's two people involved is kind of like, is there going to be at some point? it's very hard to not want to shift a little bit of the blame in one direction or the other or so i mean that's a natural coping mechanism is trying to assign you know kind of who's where's the responsibility and all this lie which uh you know which usually is not productive but there's that's a tendency that people have i certainly have you know so like at least when bubbles when i thought bubbles went missing i only had myself to blame and no one was there being like how could

01:00:45 - 01:02:03 | Speaker 1:

you do this yeah but i mean and it's also i think just trying to make sense of it you know what i mean because for me like and again i would like to make very clear genevieve i mean later on i think she said she kind of said something along the lines of well i just knew that i hadn't opened any doors or something like that and like i mean that was going through my head too like there was no part of first of all again like as we're looking for bingo genevieve wasn't like saying how could you have let this happen or anything like that i just sort of had a feeling that that was what was going on and i'm probably right about that but on the other hand i was also doing that to myself sort of because if if the cat was outside there's no scenario that could have been genevieve's fault like you know what i mean like she just simply had not opened any doors whereas i was the only one who had opened any doors and i don't keep believe it or not even i don't keep a log of every door opening and closing during my puttering although maybe that's something i should look into so you know it could have just been like i don't know i went outside to grab the laundry soap and the cat snuck out because we were out of options what else could it have been and it was just both of our brains saying like well there's only if if the cat is not in this house there's only one thing that could have happened which is it got out when andrew opened the door at some point so anyway all's well that ends well but man it really really really put the fear of god in all

01:02:03 - 01:02:14 | Speaker 2:

of us well i'm very glad that that turned out good because i mean you guys also had the experience of was it both cats getting out or was it just both right and that was like days yeah and that

01:02:14 - 01:03:22 | Speaker 1:

was another one where we never were quite sure how that happened but again it was still that feeling I sort of feel like every time this happens I mean there's a very there's a very heavy um uh this is Andrew's fault vibe in the air um and maybe and maybe rightfully so again I think the more we never really figured out what happened last time but actually I do think and I'm the one who kind of came up with this. I think that the time both of our cats ran away years ago, I think we were relatively new in the apartment, and I opened a window to let the area where we keep the cat box, I wanted it to air out a little bit, and it didn't have a screen. And I think that I didn't kind of realize that, and I was just like, again, I kind of get into my own little world when I'm just sort of like puttering around, and I think I just sort of turned off my brain and did something stupid. So I don't think it's unfair for me to be the maybe the chief suspect in these situations. But, man, again, I just cannot tell you how we went from living one reality to very quickly living in another reality to everything suddenly being back to normal and just breathing the biggest sigh of relief of my life.

01:03:22 - 01:04:53 | Speaker 2:

speaking of escaped animals andrew a deadly egyptian cobra has vanished from its cage at venom fest in missouri this happened in moscow mills missouri it's a lot of m's dude uh there was 200 to 300 snakes there now uh the rules were the snakes were not allowed to ever be released from their sealed containers during the event but on sunday morning so this is a while a vendor noticed that one of his sealed containers had been moved and was empty. He noticed before the public arrived, this is what's suspicious. The guy is named Mickey Meyer. His company is called Show Me Reptiles. He said, the thing that's making it very difficult to believe that this was a mistake is that they're in sealed containers. The snake didn't put the lid back on, and the snake didn't move its container two feet. so the feeling was somebody had picked up this container opened it let the snake out and then put the top back on which by the way if you're doing a gag that seems like a terrifying gag to let like you know what i mean like let's say you're just you know you think you're being funny or something which of course you're not but you also have to at some point release a deadly egyptian cobra like you're standing there holding the lid to the container while the cobra is getting out and it's just you and the cobra and then you put the lid back on like that alone would scare

01:04:53 - 01:04:59 | Speaker 1:

the living tweedle out of me i am so afraid of snakes i can't even look at pictures of snakes

01:05:00 - 01:05:52 | Speaker 2:

I'm not joking. I'm not trying to be extra about it. Pictures of worms. It depends. How about tweets about pictures of worms that you wrote? How's that going, by the way? Have we taken a look at this recently? I'll check what you're talking about. But yeah, just the idea. I'm like Pee-wee Herman in Pee-wee's Big Adventure. Doesn't he hate snakes, but then he has to rescue them all from Crazy House Pet Shop or whatever. Oh, yes. He's running under a burning building. And there's that scene where he's like, snakes! He's covered in them. I love that. I think about that scene all the time. One time you and I joked about me running out of... I don't know what the scenario was, but we were joking about my house being on fire and I'm just trying to save all of my RCA cords and mini to mini running out of the house with all my cables like Pee Wee Herman and the snakes. But, yeah, no, I can't even you're talking about the scenario of somebody who you think did unleashed the snake. I cannot even imagine. So do we have any details? I have not. I'm not read up on the story.

01:05:52 - 01:06:33 | Speaker 1:

well this is the thing that's kind of interesting to me is the guy who owned the deadly egyptian cobra i can't overstate those words enough he the guy meyer he says he thinks that the snake was actually stolen not just like released and the reason he thinks it was stolen is because there's no snake poop he says there's really no evidence of a snake being loose because a lot of times when they get loose they poop a lot too and we haven't seen any evidence of a loose snake So he would expect to see deadly Egyptian cobra poop everywhere But he's not seeing it So he thinks somebody just put it into another container And took it out To which I would say to the thief

01:06:33 - 01:06:36 | Speaker 2:

Steal the whole container That's what I was going to say

01:06:36 - 01:06:39 | Speaker 1:

Take the entire Tupperware box

01:06:39 - 01:07:02 | Speaker 2:

My guy, my brother in Christ Maybe they had a smaller You know what I mean If somebody's stealing a snake Then they either know a lot about snakes Or at least think they know a lot about snakes so maybe they had their own container which was easier to smuggle out whereas if they were just trying to remove the entire original encasement or cage or whatever it was um people would notice

01:07:02 - 01:07:29 | Speaker 1:

i mean i guess although it sounds like this was before anybody got there like so i'm telling you if i'm stealing this snake i'm getting there real early i'm taking the whole box and i'm just getting out of there i'm not transferring the snake to like a crown royal bag and putting it in my pocket or some shit like i am not risking it they had to shut the whole thing down which honestly they should have done good yes i was

01:07:29 - 01:07:42 | Speaker 2:

gonna say like venom fest should be like a hard rock music festival that like ozzy osborne started do is do is headlining venom fest exactly this should not happen but again i'm super scared of

01:07:42 - 01:09:39 | Speaker 1:

snakes this sounds just awful to me all around i'm not super scared of them i'm not i don't love them um i'm but i'm not phobic around them although i've never really been around a like a poisonous poisonous snake other than i saw like a small rattlesnake one time when i was hiking in california oh yeah i remember that um but like that doesn't really count like i do remember being a kid and going to like the science center or place like that and seeing like a boa constrictor and getting to kind of like touch their you know the kind of the side just to feel what their scales feel like and i thought that was kind of interesting but um but yeah as far as like something that could just kill you like if you just if you look away i was watching a tiktok video as i am want to do and it was some you know herpetologist snake guy who's got this big old you know room full of containers of snakes and whatever and makes these videos and he's doing some kind of demonstration and this is like a very deadly snake and the snake is is sort of the box is open and the snake kind of partially raised up but it's just sitting there and you know like you said people who either actually know their way around snakes or think they know their way around snakes they they sort of are i guess maybe comfortable in that world of like okay the snake is over here but i'm not it's not going to attack me for this these reasons that they understand because they know snakes this guy's talking and he takes his eye off of the snake for a second i think to look at the camera and the snake strikes at him oh god and he somehow thankfully moves just so the snake doesn't get him but he is clearly rattled and he's continuing to narrate to the to the camera he's like the sec he's like the second that i looked away from now he's staring at the snake while he's talking to the camera i should say he's like the second i took my eyes off the snake it tried to strike me like that's how freaking smart they are like he's doing this tv thing but he's looking at the snake but then to make it a good tv thing he for one second changes his gaze to the camera

01:09:39 - 01:09:47 | Speaker 2:

and that's when the snake tries to kill him oh my god and i'm sorry what was the um setting of this video that you're talking about was this in like some sort of it was just something i saw on tiktok

01:09:47 - 01:10:25 | Speaker 1:

it was like a lab or he was outside yeah like it was in a it was it was inside it was in like a you guess you could call it a lab it looked like a place where somebody who had a big collection of snakes you know would be hanging out with their snake So it looked like it had a lot of boxes, which might be, you know, like containers for the snakes or their eggs or something. There was, I think, a table that this snake was in a box that was on this table. And the guy's talking about it. The box is open. He's trying to kind of like, I think, talk about this particular kind of, you know, gaboon viper or whatever the hell it was for the camera for whatever little thing they're making. And in the moment when he looks away from the snake, it then senses an opportunity to try to strike him.

01:10:25 - 01:11:26 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. I mean, you sort of see that in Cats 2, right? Like when we're playing with them with their toys, like they're, we're just keeping our kittens entertained because they have a lot of energy. But when you're playing like with a feather on a string or even the laser pointer, like they are, they're playing, but they are, you, you just see their instincts. You just see their literally their killer instincts. Right. And in a certain way, like bananas will be so cautious, you know, especially like sometimes because bingo is always running and jumping on her when she's just trying to relax. So she's a little bit on edge these days. But, like, the second I turn on a red pointer, like, the laser pointer, everything else in the world just shuts out, and she just, like, becomes, like, an animal, just, well, my cat becomes an animal, and just locks into that thing. And you can watch all these little twitches, and, like, sometimes I'll just, like, let it sit there for a long, long time and see how long this cat is willing to stake out this red dot. And I'll tell you what, the rest of it's life, I think. Yes, it turns out.

01:11:26 - 01:12:20 | Speaker 1:

i wonder about that with uh bubbles a lot and we're just getting all of our cat mentions like so we're already in for one mention today we might as well just make the most of it like i because that laser pointer is so useful in me being able to run her around while just sitting my dump truck on the couch so it's great it's a great tool and i always think she knows that i'm doing this why is it still interesting to her but she can see i'm holding it she will bring it near me sometimes but she doesn't care and like i like i find the most interesting part whether it's the laser or this like a feather thing i have on a string when she does her butt wiggle do you ever see this oh yeah like where it's like they're in full about to pounce mode and then they just kind of like wiggle their butt because they're like i guess i don't know what building up some potential energy i don't know why that cracks me up so much but um that's life with the cat yeah and like

01:12:20 - 01:13:10 | Speaker 2:

seeing these little instincts come out bananas doesn't do this but bingo has a characteristic that um theo used to have which is the instinct to um bury i mean obviously they use the litter box they they bury their waste but um bingo every now and then will like kind of you know cough up a furball or throw up a little bit or whatever and then you know i clean it up but um immediately bingo he's almost um fastidious about it like he he will immediately sort of there's nothing to bury it up with it's just on the floor on the carpet or whatever but he immediately like does this thing where he goes to like kind of scoop imaginary sand over over the mess that he made and he does it when he's done eating too this is when theo would do it too when he's done eating something he then like kind of buries quote-unquote buries his bowl with imaginary dirt when he turns

01:13:10 - 01:13:57 | Speaker 1:

his back on it yeah poor uh bubbles who's not that food motivated because you know she's couldn't eat since like 10 last night and so she doesn't care about food generally because there's just always i have it's just like open feeding but i got all the food you know put away so she wouldn't eat anything overnight while i was sleeping and this morning she just kept walking over to her food bowl and then looking at it and then looking at me yeah and then like like coming over to me and then walking back to it and i was like you don't i wish i could i wish i could explain to you that this is only happening for your protection so that i don't have to deal with your annoying being in heat i wish you could understand that this is only for my benefit then maybe you wouldn't be so hungry right now if you understood that this is me messing with your natural biology so that i

01:13:57 - 01:14:19 | Speaker 2:

am not dealing with the hassle of you having a litter i uh i it's also i mean i think it's for their own good too i mean if they're going to be an indoor cat right but uh i think if you eventually go in for a colonoscopy and you have to fast the night before i think being Bubbles, sorry Bubbles should have the right to take your food away From you that day

01:14:19 - 01:14:59 | Speaker 1:

Actually, I'll have her guard it That'll be the deal I'll put like a Jimmy John's veggie sandwich Hold the avocado Over on one side of the room And she'll just stand in between me and the sandwich Just quickly Because we've been promoting it for two days now I think they're calling it Bag Gate But this Cornhole cheating scandal Is kind of interesting to me The cheating scandal, I feel, is a little bit of a mischaracterization. By the way, shout out to our unpaid producer, television's Chris Hayes, and also listener Jessica, who sent this our way, because we're now between chess cheating and, what's the other one?

01:15:00 - 01:17:54 | Speaker 2:

fish the walleye and between yeah fishing tournaments cheating and stuff like that we've really been on this beat uh for a while so people are now sending us these articles what basically happened was there was a competition of the american cornhole league world championship which was happening in manhattan i'm kidding it was happening in rock hill south carolina it was happening on the upper east side andrew i was like what but they were like uh you know they were these competitors that's like you know two teams of two and everyone's probably at this point either played cornhole or seen someone playing it in the backyard you throw these beanbags at these like little wood kind of boxes that've got holes a hole in them and one of the teams basically uh filed a complaint that the other team's beanbags were not regulation that they were too small or maybe too flat and so the it was tom brady's equipment manager i hear that was well there was a period of time where you didn't see the bean bags who strange they're never out of the view of the official except this one time um and so uh somebody there now one of the things is i guess there's not referees at cornhole which is part of the story because now they're saying maybe they should just have officials since there's real money in play i think you can win like uh 250 000 a year between winning at cornhole endorsements and sponsorship deals so there's i mean there's a pro league there's probably a couple of people that are actually making a pretty healthy living on this other people just do it kind of in addition to their regular job just as a passion but i guess they don't have umpires or officials or refs it's kind of you know it's sort of the honor system but um anyway so i don't know who it was exactly who then measured these beanbags, which the regulations are they must be 6 inch by 6 inch when laid flat and weigh 16 ounces with slight specified variations tolerated. So they measured the beanbags of the team in question, and they found that they were, in fact, I think a little bit small. And the people who had the slightly small beanbags were like, we don't have any idea how that happen we're not trying to do that and then they said will you please measure our accusers bean bags and they did and those bean bags were also small huh so everybody involved all four people were using bean bags that were apparently not fully regulation and the interesting thing was they just let them finish out the thing they basically whoever was in charge of this decided you know there was no intent here this was not like the guys stuffing leads and lead weights in the walleye this is just a thing that could potentially happen because of all of these

01:17:54 - 01:19:26 | Speaker 2:

kooky things that these serious cornhole players do to their cornhole bags they are trying to get them kind of like you know a pitcher might or a baseball player might want their mitt to have a certain feel to it or you see the kicker pressing on the ends of the football before they kick it off trying to somehow change the shape of it or something um uh this one uh expert uh cornell professional said um you have the average players that try everything to make the bag do different things um this is what this guy nate voyeur does he washes his bag with fabric softener and he lets it air dry out he says he knows a player who lays plywood over his bag and drives his car over it but um that's considered to be maybe a violation because it could crush the resin inside into smaller there's like little beads you can crush them into smaller pieces um let's see uh i'm trying to think some other things that people do they will iron them uh i guess what they want is a lighter thinner bag uh some players they boil their bags or they wash them in vinegar to try to make them more pliable others um they bring out sandpaper hammers and rubber mallets and i don't know what they do with those three items they're just listed in the article as things that they use so i don't know if they sand it down and then pound it with a mallet but they're doing all kinds of stuff to try to make these bags like especially responsive to their needs i guess my question is why don't they just provide the bags at the event like like well maybe for this reason

01:19:26 - 01:19:46 | Speaker 1:

In the same way. Yeah, that's a good point. Like, is it like is it like basketball where there is an official game ball that is, you know, given out by the league or provided by the league, I should say? Or is it more like pool where you show up with your own cue? You know, yeah. Yeah. Wait, that's a good question.

01:19:46 - 01:20:37 | Speaker 2:

Well, they're saying that as there's more and more money involved in this and this has become a bigger and bigger thing, there's more. There's like I said, there's talk of having actually having officials, at least at these like pro events, having like a referee. someone it just seems to me as a non-cornhole aficionado that really what you should do is it should be more like baseball or like uh basketball or football any of those sports where you should soccer you show up and then they give you the bags now if you want to like try to like you know again kind of squeeze this thing and get it kind of set to your hand or whatever uh in the you know at the event probably you should be allowed to do that or whatever but it's like it seems like if everyone's showing up with a bag that's slightly not the right size or something and they've been driving it over uh they've been driving over with their car that might it might

01:20:37 - 01:21:58 | Speaker 1:

actually be messing with the sport a little bit yeah get the official bags and there's one there's one family that dirties the bags up with the mud of the delaware river and before game time ha wait which is what i'm talking about right yeah you know how every every mlb baseball like has been dirtied up and there's like one family that harvests the mud from the delaware River in Jersey or something. That's a good CBS story. I'm sure it's already been done. Yeah, I'm sure there's been a million things done on this before. In fact, I think the New York Times might have just revisited it this season or prior, but yeah, so I have, I mean, as people know, and I've got to stop saying this because I'm going to get burglarized, but of course I do have a Ryan Court foul ball here, and you can see, I mean, I've got to say, sometimes I just pick this thing up, Ryan Court, who I believe played three games in the major leagues, and I was there for one of them. You know, sometimes I won't lie, I have it sitting on the bookshelf behind me and sometimes when I'm kind of cleaning up or puttering or whatever, I do pick it up and I think about it and you can see like it's been muddied up. Like it's been, you know, somebody's at some point smeared with their hand, smeared dirt on this. And then one thing I wish is, now I'm just rambling, but I wish I knew who the pitcher was when this ball went foul. That's a knowable thing. Yeah, I think it was pretty late in the game, but I could at least figure out who came out of the bullpen that day, assuming. Oh, yeah.

01:21:58 - 01:22:03 | Speaker 2:

I'm sure one of our listeners can figure that out before the cock crows thrice.

01:22:03 - 01:24:05 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, if I had – I mean, I have written down somewhere the day because there was an article written about Ryan Court coming up. One quick thing because I know we have to wrap up and do some blurses, but everything that you did say about those cornhole beanbags or whatever they call them Really does resonate with me as somebody who's been playing a lot of darts in my basement. Now, again, keep in mind, I haven't been in any dart tournaments. I don't hang out with dart people. I don't know the terminology. But I will say this. You know there are three different parts of the dart, right? There's the metal part, which is like the barrel and the tip, right? And then there's this plastic or metal thing that is interchangeable that you screw in. That's the shaft. That's kind of the body of the dart. And then you have the flight, the thing that you put on the end. And we bought different kinds of flights to kind of see how how they would work and how they kind of differ and how you kind of change your throw based on the shape of the flight. And I really had some darts pretty much locked in with the shaft and flights that I liked. But then the shaft and this will happen when darts hit each other. If you're like kind of going for something, you one dart is already in the board and you hit it from behind with another dart accidentally. I kind of started bending up the shaft on my favorite darts a little bit. So I had to replace those shafts and I got ones that looked almost identical, but they're slightly, slightly shorter and a bit lighter. I can really feel the difference in my hand. It took me two nights to reacquaint myself. I mean, the feeling of the darts in my hand, more like leaving my hand, was astounding. I had gotten to a point where I could get pretty if you gave me if you gave me 10 shots I could pretty much guarantee that I'd probably get two bullseyes in those 10 darts and then suddenly I couldn't hit a bullseye for my life I was down here practicing I was just like I just got to get used to the new shaft now I mean that's I wish that was the first time you'd said that on the show but um now are you playing you're saying you can get some bullseyes are you kind of just doing target practice are you doing that version of

01:24:05 - 01:24:13 | Speaker 2:

darts that i'm so confused by where it's like sometimes you're not trying to get the bullseye you're trying to get those little kind of rectangles that are further out etc i have a

01:24:13 - 01:24:30 | Speaker 1:

couple of different games i play when i'm playing with genevieve we always play cricket which is probably the game that you are familiar with which is you have to get um you have to get 320s 319s 18 17 16 15s and bullseyes and then you close out the game that way

01:24:30 - 01:24:49 | Speaker 2:

i see and the and some of those things are the so it's different parts of the dartboard because I always, as a kid, the way that I thought you played darts was everyone just tries to get it on the bullseye, and then maybe you have a kind of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves type of sitch, where someone's in the bullseye, but then you split their dart in half with your dart, and then you win Maid Marian.

01:24:49 - 01:25:15 | Speaker 1:

Right. No, that's, yeah, that's how we play. There's a right way to rock, and a wrong way to roll. You can't just listen to... your soul just remember that life is number one you can be having so much fun just remember that life is much fun you can be not

01:25:15 - 01:25:52 | Speaker 3:

all right luke let's do some blurs days here i have a whole sheet that i have prepared with all the blurs days on it, but I'm not even joking. Just now I hit that music and then I had, I don't know, how long is that intro? 15, 20 seconds? I should have been getting these in front of me. Instead, Luke, I just totally caught myself daydreaming about darts. I just went somewhere else and was just thinking about how I want to play darts and thinking about another game that I play that isn't cricket. So I just left my body for a moment.

01:25:52 - 01:26:15 | Speaker 2:

Here's what I want. I want us to really run a savage burn on some people with a darts hustle. Yeah, I got to get really good. Yeah, I got to get good. I got to get better. I bet you're real good, and maybe I can be like your manager. I can be your kind of like, you know, I can help with the grift in a way that doesn't involve me being good at darts because I'm not.

01:26:15 - 01:26:22 | Speaker 3:

No, you're not the manager. You're like a, you're my secret wingman, right? Yeah, I'm a plant. I'm a plant of some sort.

01:26:22 - 01:26:39 | Speaker 2:

It's like a three-card Monty where we pretend we don't know each other. You're just doing a three-card Monty on the street, And then I come up, and then I win money. And then the marks, the other people think, oh, that guy got it, so I can get it. So, like, basically, we play darts together, but we act like we don't know each other. And then I'm bad, but I still beat you.

01:26:39 - 01:26:43 | Speaker 3:

And I pull out a huge wad of cash, and I peel off a couple of bills to give to you.

01:26:43 - 01:27:05 | Speaker 2:

And they're like, golly, a fool and his money are easily separated. And then somebody else wants to come in and play for big money, and that's when you color of money them. That's right. I've never seen the color of money, by the way. Have you seen that? And either of them, huh? There's an original with Jackie Gleason, and then there's the Tom, Paul Newman, and Jackie Gleason. I love that I led with Jackie Gleason.

01:27:06 - 01:27:08 | Speaker 3:

No, the Paul Newman is the one that I...

01:27:08 - 01:27:08 | Speaker 2:

Paul Newman.

01:27:09 - 01:27:19 | Speaker 3:

I consider it to be a Jackie Gleason vehicle. Yeah. No, I only knew the Paul Newman one. There's another one? Tom Cruise, baby! That's the same one. Newman and Cruise.

01:27:20 - 01:27:24 | Speaker 2:

No? Okay, but I think Newman is Cruise in the original one.

01:27:24 - 01:27:36 | Speaker 3:

oh there was a black and white oh i see i didn't know that okay so the original one is jackie gleason and paul newman and then later on they remake it with paul newman and cruz that's really

01:27:36 - 01:28:06 | Speaker 2:

interesting if it's right let me let me let me um double check that because and that was scorsese the one in the 80s was scorsese i had no idea i'm probably wrong about that no wait wait what Wait, you know what? Was it not called The Color of Money, the original one? I think Jackie Gleason was in a different movie, wasn't he? The Hustler, maybe? Did they call it something differently? Something different? I don't know. None of this is really celebrating the Blur's Days the way we should be.

01:28:06 - 01:28:10 | Speaker 3:

You're thinking The Hustler, which is, I think, Paul Newman and Jackie Gleason.

01:28:11 - 01:28:33 | Speaker 2:

Got it. So I wonder if Color of Money is just the updated version of The Hustler. Because The Hustler was a novel. And I wonder if by the time Because it's got the same characters Fast Eddie Felsen and Minnesota Fats I'm wondering if by the time It got to be the 80s They were like no one's gonna They want to see a movie called The Color of Money More than they want to see a movie called The Hustler

01:28:33 - 01:28:54 | Speaker 3:

It's a follow up I'm just looking at this here The Color of Money picks up 20 plus years After the events of the 1959 classic The Hustler Of course I've never seen The Hustler either But of course any bar you walked into In Boston in the early 2000s had a giant poster of the still of the movie of Gleason taking a shot, right? So that rings a bell to me. That's interesting.

01:28:55 - 01:29:05 | Speaker 2:

Also, it's like, duh, the color of money, green. Move on. What are we doing with this movie? Like, where do we go from here? That's such an obvious thing. Yeah, I know.

01:29:05 - 01:29:46 | Speaker 3:

I know. I did one, the color of eggs. That was more interesting because there are a couple of colors and there are white and yellow. Well, now I've given over the end. Shoot, sorry. Some kind of brownish one that you throw out because it looks weird. Oh, sure, if you count the outside. Okay, listen, let's get into some blurs days here. This is a message from Matt, who is formerly a Tacoma 10, but he's now writing to us from Brazil, Luke. Matt says, I turned 43 yesterday, so a belated birthday wish from my two podcast friends would be great. I've been listening since Mike told his bank robbery story over five episodes on the radio. Thanks for all the years of entertainment and being the only English I hear some days now. Wow.

01:29:46 - 01:30:35 | Speaker 2:

So that means Matt must be fluent in Portuguese. I guess so. Impressive. Congratulations, by the way, Matt, on Bolsonaro not getting reelected. Yes, exactly. I've been waiting to have that conversation since I was high as a kite the other night. finally back in my right mind. You know, I think of Brazil as sort of the lungs of the earth. The Amazon, sure. I think of the Amazon Corporation as being the lungs of the economy. I think of the Amazon Corporation as being the iron lung of the economy. Anne from Boston wishes her nephew Sebastian in San Diego a happy 15th Blurs Day. It seems like just moments ago, Seb was a toddler crawling into my luggage, and now he's almost grown, and according to his mom, has perfected the hard eye roll. I miss him tons and can't wait to totally mortify him the next time we get together.

01:30:36 - 01:31:13 | Speaker 1:

Happy Blursday and good luck, Seb. Really quick aside here. You know how certain cartoons just sort of stick in your head or just certain things from your youth stick in your head? For some reason, there's one particular Garfield storyline that sticks in my head where Garfield stows away in John's luggage. And I think maybe I learned what, like, stowaway meant there then, and that's why it stuck in my head. And I remember the joke in one of the strips is Garfield survived by drinking John's cologne while he was. Oh, God. I believe somebody fact check me on that. Or just let it be.

01:31:13 - 01:31:27 | Speaker 2:

That just represents so much more ambition from Garfield. I could see Heathcliff doing that. It doesn't seem like a thing Garfield would ever do. Like, Garfield would be very happy with John leaving so he could just have the house to himself.

01:31:27 - 01:32:12 | Speaker 1:

I'm looking this up is there any chance If I type in Garfield stowaway No I got the very rare Message from Google That's just like no bro I can't help you with that That's like a pie gal low that's actually You can win a lot Mick shell our pal Mick shell says I'd like to thank The tenverites for having a birthday Party for me on the fifth Sadly I am unable to attend have fun Without me I think Now, I could be wrong about this. I think McShell is in Chicago, right? Because we met McShell at the Chicago event. And I think it's a coincidence that the Tenverites are having a meetup in Colorado on McShell's birthday. I think that's what's going on there. But I can certainly say happy Blur's Day, McShell.

01:32:12 - 01:32:29 | Speaker 2:

Also, Jesse in Cincinnati says, could you please wish Laura in St. Petersburg, Florida, formerly of Toledo, Ohio, a very happy Blur's Day. Laura is an amazing ten. I am grateful that my cousin helped us become friends in real life

01:32:29 - 01:32:41 | Speaker 1:

do you think Molly is Jesse's cousin because we also got a note from Molly wishing, I mean I'm assuming that Laura in St. Petersburg formerly of Toledo is the same Laura in both of these messages

01:32:41 - 01:32:50 | Speaker 2:

we have flushed more Lauras out of Toledo, Ohio though Andrew than I can even count I think it was that show that we did that was called If Your Name Is Laura Get Out of Toledo, Ohio

01:32:50 - 01:33:00 | Speaker 1:

it was a very specific title but Molly also sends her greetings and says, I hope life is treating you well and you're able to get Taylor Swift concert tickets as the ultimate birthday gift to yourself.

01:33:02 - 01:34:05 | Speaker 2:

Well, this is interesting, Andrew. Looks like old Sebastian is getting another round of the blurs. This from, I believe, Sebastian's actual mother. Kelly in San Diego. Again, unless we've got two Sebastians in San Diego, which would be turning five. Surprising. No, he is a five. Remember, he's turning 15. Oh, 15. Sorry about that. Happy Blur's Day to my five, Sebastian, on his real-life birthday. Fifteen years ago, my life was made 11 million times better with his arrival. Where's my ah sound effect? I was going to try to get through the whole Blur's without it, but I was going to try to get through the whole Blur's without playing it at a reasonable level, but I couldn't do that. I had to just blast everyone's eardrums out. He's grown into a kind, compassionate, talented young man Who knows how to use suffice in a sentence Well, that makes one of us Suffice it to say, Kelly loves Sebastian so, so much Happy Blur's Day again, Sebastian

01:34:05 - 01:34:43 | Speaker 1:

Today is Leo's Blur's Day, according to Marissa in Maryland Marissa, I remember Marissa calling in, by the way to our live call-in show that we did from an undisclosed location about three years ago. And I remember Marissa talking about Leo. Marissa says, Leo, you have grown up listening to Luke and Andrew because I became a listener when you were just a newborn. Maybe someday you'll be a TBTL 10, but today you are 10 years old. Uh-huh. Oh, we did it at the same time. Mommy, Daddy, and Avi love you, cupcake. Cute.

01:34:44 - 01:34:58 | Speaker 2:

Also, Leo, come on, dude. I mean, what do we got to do to get you to listen to the show? I mean, it's been hitting you through osmosif. Osmosif? Mm-hmm. Is that how? Suffice it to say, I don't know how to say osmosif. Mm-hmm.

01:34:58 - 01:34:59 | Speaker 1:

That's Cat Stevens.

01:35:00 - 01:35:42 | Speaker 2:

name right no am i wrong that is he changed it yeah yeah very complicated man cat stevens uh thanks also uh i'm i'm slipping back into uh like donors of the day yes but you know what i'm willing to thank max in seattle for writing to wish max a happy golden blurs i'll thank you for that max thanks for the content given recent conversation around tens of similar names i thought i'd instead take the opportunity to officially lay claim to the listener title Other Max. I'm sure Brooklyn Max has no idea this has been part of a point of contention but I felt it's useful to squelch any future issues here and now. God, that is so diplomatic. That really is

01:35:42 - 01:35:47 | Speaker 1:

just getting out. Other Max. So Max in Seattle wants to be Other Max. I can accommodate. Yeah, I mean

01:35:47 - 01:35:58 | Speaker 2:

I, again, appreciate you keeping things very copacetic on the show by already by already going beta on which max you're going to be.

01:35:58 - 01:36:31 | Speaker 1:

I know I always tell this story, but I had a friend who, you know, I was the only Andy in his life. I went by Andy when I was a kid. I was his friend for a long time. Then he moved schools, made friends with another guy named Andy, and then started referring to me as Fat Andy. I never got over that. So rude. So rude. Still my friend, weirdly. Sue says, Happy 60th Blur's Day to me. Sue, if TBTL needs an elder correspondent, I'm your gal. Have a great show. Sue, you're like 10 years older than us. What are you talking about? Yeah, I know. What you do is so important.

01:36:33 - 01:36:34 | Speaker 2:

All right. Happy Blur's Day, everyone.

01:36:34 - 01:36:40 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, happy Blur's Day, everybody. Sorry, I kind of feel like I messed up some of those. Sorry about a little messy Blur's Day.

01:36:41 - 01:36:47 | Speaker 2:

We've got to wrap things up because I have to go get my bivalent shot, Andrew. Is that the latest booster?

01:36:47 - 01:36:49 | Speaker 1:

Is that what you're... It's the latest booster.

01:36:49 - 01:37:12 | Speaker 2:

And I'm going to also, if they'll give it to me, get my flu shot. My plan was to just have me and Bubbles both tremendously laid up. Oh, yeah. Just under the blankets, watching trash TV and eating soup or something today. Just to kind of, you know, I figured if she was going to be in like a stupor from her meds, I'll be in a stupor from my bivalent COVID shot.

01:37:12 - 01:37:25 | Speaker 1:

Are you going into the doctor or are you just going to because I was at Fred Meyer the other day and they kept making an announcement on the overhead saying you can get your booster shot here. I'm like, maybe I'll just do that. Pick up some milk and get a booster shot.

01:37:26 - 01:38:25 | Speaker 2:

Oh, this is so funny. Becca and I are texting back and forth because we're supposed to go get this shot together. We're just doing a walk-in. There is a place in Portland that, because we went to a whole bunch of the, like we went to a bunch of CVS's and stuff. And they were like, you can't schedule an appointment for like three weeks out. And all the walk-ins are like, they're not doing walk-ins. And there's this one little mom-and-pop compounding pharmacy that Becca found that I called today. And they're like, yeah, totally, just come by. So we're going back and forth. I wanted to try to sneak my jog in before doing it because I thought if I feel like crap afterwards, Becca was saying, no, no, I'm going to run after the jab because they say it helps with the antibodies. Oh, yeah, they said that gets it going through the body, right? Okay, well, that's what I'm going to do. I'm just going to jog through Portland, passing out, collapsing possibly, whatever else happens. I'm worried that this, I've heard that this one does kind of knock people down a little bit harder. So having that happen while I'm also trying to jog seems like a bad combo.

01:38:25 - 01:38:39 | Speaker 1:

I've heard it, I've heard various things. I think these things just hit people's bodies differently, you know what I mean? I can't find any rhyme or reason. Like, I think it was my second normal shot that was the one that really impacted me, and it surprised me. Anyway.

01:38:39 - 01:39:13 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, the second one got me a little more, which is why I was thinking the fourth one would got me even times four. but who knows. I'll have a full report tomorrow. I'm looking it up right now, by the way. Becca did agree to pay up to $5,000 if the shot incapacitates me in a way that they need to do some kind of surgery. Anyway, we're good. Alright, thanks for listening everyone. We will be back here tomorrow with a Friday edition of the program? I know. How is it? I cannot believe it's already Friday. We'll see you then. Until then, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourselves and please remember

01:39:13 - 01:39:31 | Speaker 1:

no mountain too tall. And good luck to all. Hug your cats. There is something about the soul of a snake.

01:39:32 - 01:39:33 | Speaker 2:

Power out.

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