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All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone. To a Wednesday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

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My name is Luke Burbank, coming to you for the final day from beautiful New York City. Here in Midtown, Manhattan, where as this is airing, I will be neck deep in Hallmark movie channel storytelling.

Love is wearing makeup to bed and going downstairs to the Burger King to poop.

Of course, this time of year for a certain kind of film viewer, there is nothing more romantical than watching a Hallmark holiday movie.

Your story is a beautiful story. From my point of view, it's a beautiful story. I love your story.

So I'll be interviewing various folks who star in those films, including, I guess, Lacey Chabert, who is was from that show, A Party of Five. I believe she was in Mean Girls and she was the person who kept trying to make fetch a thing and was instructed, was admonished not to. And is now known as kind of the queen of these Hallmark movies. So it's going to be it's going to be exciting. And I'll have full report tomorrow when I'm back in Seattle for the show. For now, though, we're at episode 3816 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. Where I am just learning about a I'm serious about this. It sounds made up a secret Space Force project from United States Space Force. I keep forgetting that's a thing that continues to exist. They have a, like, kind of secret plane that looks exactly like a miniature space shuttle. It's like 30 feet long. It has no human pilot in it. And it's just been orbiting the planet for like two years without landing.

Odors cannot travel through the vacuum of space.

Another thing that's almost as perplexing is the story about Sam's Club lowering the price of their hot dog and soft drink by exactly eight cents.

What's courageous about eating a hot dog?

What were they doing there? We will talk about it. And also, why should you not be putting your suitcase on your bed? You're a gross person. Something that I do multiple times a week sometimes. I did this in Portland when I was packing my suitcase. I probably did it here in New York City when I was unpacking some of my stuff. I guess that's not what we're supposed to be doing. We'll look into that as well. And we'll talk to this young man, longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He is not a gross person, and he is not dirty like your carry-on luggage or like your rolling luggage.

He is as clean as your mom's forehead.

He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. I was doing a little bit of research since yesterday's episode of TBTL. You had mentioned maybe while you're in New York City enjoying some of the local fare, specifically a Boston market, if you could find one. And I was surprised to see that there are many options for Boston markets like right in New York. There's a couple of Brooklyn locations. If you can, I don't know how far you are from Brooklyn, but there's a couple of Brooklyn locations. There's one that looks like Queens to me, although it's technically Forest Hills. I'm not sure if that's doable for you, but you have a lot to pick from. I've been known as the Dauphin of Queens. I don't get it. What did you say?

That was an overly complicated and unfunny King of Queens joke, except I believe the Dauphin is the son of the king in France. Oh, wow. I'm sorry, Andrew.

I just know I'm fine that you're my friend I apologize usually I try to roll with

things, but there are some times you just have to say, like, I don't know what those words mean.

No, and I'm sure I'm absolutely butchering the French. It's spelled like dolphin, but hold the L and add a U. And I believe it is, like, the Dauphin means, like, you're the son of the king of France or something? Huh.

But that didn't tie into the Boston market.

Well, because you said Queens, and then my brain said, make a King of Queens joke, but then my brain said, no, make it less relatable. Make it French. And that's why it made a, then it said, make a Prince of Queens joke, but then it said, what would be funnier is if you said a word in French that you only barely understand or can pronounce.

How do you think the Boston market in the Bronx is? Sorry, I'll just close this tab.

I bet a very low drama scenario. Okay, I'll close this tab. Now, I'll tell you this. I'm actually surprised to hear there's not one within walking distance of where I'm staying because I'm in Midtown Manhattan. I'm basically in Times Square. I'm a little bit north of Times Square. And I ran out a bit ago to get my laundry from the Fluff and Fold. Now, let me just tell you something. I think L.A.'s main genius breakthrough is convenient and affordable valet car parking service because there's nowhere to park and everyone drives. Now, that's not great for the environment, but we're not here to litigate that. I think New York's greatest step forward is Fluff and Fold. I had so much clothing washed at the Fluff and Fold, and the total was $15. Oh, my God. To drop off a giant—I mean, I'm in like day eight of this trip. And it's 2022. I mean, I don't know. And you bring it there, and you talk to a very nice person. It's a laundromat, but they offer, you know, wash and fold service, and they weigh the laundry, and they say, that's $15. We'll see you in six hours. Oh, my gosh. And you get your stuff back folded. Now, it depends. I haven't been to this place before, obviously. I used to have one that I would go to in D.C. where I swear to God, these folks knew how to fold the laundry like a collared shirt in such a manner that it didn't even need to be ironed. Like you would just unfold it and be like, how, what sorcery is this? And so I am a, I'm a big fan of the, of the fluff and fold. Now, the thing, the thing I was gonna say about the restaurants is I'm in the Olive Garden district of New York. Like as I was returning with my laundry, I was just noting a Bubba Gump shrimp company on every corner and, you know, an Olive Garden every pot. Like this is where you might find a Boston market. it but the other thing you know you know why i don't want to overshare here andrew but you know part of why my uh laundry service that they were so nice has to do for me

was so affordable because you didn't have any accidents there were no well not only

did i have any accidents there was no underwear for them to wash andrew

remember i know i'm supposed to follow up here i just can't explain to you how much i don't want

to do you remember when i uh was describing my trip out here and how i had to run for the flight and how i was packing like a person i was packing like jack lemon in a certain kind of 70s era movie maybe late 60s where he's something's gone horribly wrong and he's trying to make a train yeah he's throwing stuff in the throwing everything into the and that is not how i typically roll It was just one of those days. And in my just sort of haste of throwing stuff into my suitcase, I literally just threw in everything I could think of and then just ran to the airport in Portland. Well one thing I guess I didn't think of I had been doing laundry like in my apartment in Portland And what I didn't put in The Luggage was More underwear And when I got here eight days ago I opened the suitcase And I went through it and I realized Oh I've made a huge mistake But I thought I'll just walk to Target or you know Some like a I don't even know what else might be around here But I'll go to a place and get that stuff by the way that's my seat rubbing against the vinyl of the couch in this hotel room that's not me um no i couldn't break the wind okay good it was sounded exactly like uh i'd been i'd been having that new york street cart food again which i haven't been but anyway i just figured i'll get some more yeah and then it was such a hectic that's not true i could have done it on sunday i just didn't feel like it if i'm gonna be if i'm gonna be radically transparent with you and the listeners, Andrew. I meant to do it. Sunday was kind of like the one day when I probably had the time, and I just...

Didn't feel like it because I wanted to watch football at the ESPN Sports Zone.

That sounded nice. Can I actually ask you quickly, did that end up paying off? I was thinking about you on Sunday because you said that you were just going to find just a cheesy sports bar that you can just totally lean into, like be in a BW3s commercial essentially and just watch the Seahawks starting at 9.30 in the morning and then probably just stick around for the afternoon games and probably by the end of the day feel terrible about yourself. like we often do on the end of a football Sunday, but it's also like that's also part of the journey. Did you lean into it?

Well, I did and I didn't. I started to lean into it. I don't think there's an ESPN zone in Times Square anymore. I don't know if it's closed or when I did a quick Googling, I didn't find it coming up quickly. So I just went to this other, there's like a million of them around here, and I went to one of them around the corner. I think it's called like Three Monkeys or something. I just went to this sports bar. now the thing was seahawk game was kind of dispiriting and it was over very early even out here it was over very early it was just kind of like all of a sudden i looked up and it was like noon and we had lost what seemed like a winnable game and i knew that i was just going to keep seeing repeated clips of tom brady yeah besting the seahawks for the next 11 hours of football watching yeah and i was supposed to go meet our friend pesca for some uh for some afternoon watching shenanigans and uh this was about the same time that my cbs bosses were saying hey could you actually uh turn a story around for us on twitter um like next week and so that meant i had a believe it or not a series of meetings related to talking about who do we talk to um what you know where are we going to fly for this trip etc so all of that is to say i got up i watched the seahawks lose i watched a little bit more of like one game i got an email i came back to the hotel and believe it or not i just ended up working for a significant portion of sunday which was still less bad than watching the seahawks um allow the bucks to get 170 yards on the ground which was 100 yards more than they've been averaging all season it was that

I mean, we don't have to talk about it. It was one of the worst—it was just one of the most— it was the worst game I'd seen the Seahawks play since week two when we thought they were going to be terrible. It's funny how expectation of a team will really— because I don't remember feeling that pain in week two because we expected them to be bad, but now that they've been good and they're leading the division, and then for them just to turn out that turd, it was upsetting me.

And yet you're playing the defending Super Bowl champ with the greatest quarterback in the history of the game. it's funny how expect you're right how expectations well not defending right because it was the rams last year oh i'm sorry yeah uh yeah but did they go last year i don't think so the rams two years ago rams beat cincinnati i can't remember yes they did good memory it's an andrew w wednesday one of my favorite kinds of wednesdays yeah you're absolutely right um all of that is to say andrew and you've tried i think valiantly to change the subject next you're going to ask me like hey so do you split eights against a you're just like you're laying every sort of conversational trap for me to fall into you know I like talking what kind of ice cubes do they got out there in New York City Luke oh can I tell you something did I

land on something yes but I'm

still coming back to the underwear but you did land on something I was walking through the broadcast center at CBS which is like that the HQ of the show, of CBS Sunday Morning. And I was catching up with a lot of my friends there and colleagues who are producers. I haven't been to that building. I haven't been physically in that building in like three years or something. Oh, yeah. It's been, you know, whatever. Like, it's been a long, long time. And I poked my head in an office of a couple of my colleagues, Julie and Aria, and I noticed that Julie had the exact pebble ice maker. that i've bought but it was in the box in their office and i said it was in her office but in the box and i said you know what i have one of those and she goes yeah i'm doing a story about them oh i'm doing a story about good ice and i was like how am i not the correspondent for the story about good ice when i have that exact ge product in my house so i can eat said good ice because you're already doing too many because you're already doing too many stories

i'll cancel the other i don't care about the other ones the twitter story i just want to talk about you would be complaining so you are you you'd be complaining if somebody else was doing the

twitter story because of all the time you spend on twitter i know but um i feel you know i know i feel like i feel like i was born a lot of people have twitter accounts i'm Yeah.

the only person i know who has that stupid ge ice maker machine like anyway so that was my take on is they're doing a story on good ice and i'm not the person helping with it but anyway so all that is to say my sunday was not nearly as much fun or as much lounging as i was hoping it would be but it was fine because i had a lot of work to do on monday and it meant that i didn't go full yeah i didn't go full crunk city on sunday which as you as you know like you even said this sometimes when you really lean into a Sunday like that that Sunday night can be pretty I mean I know you don't like the term Sunday scaries and I don't really either but there's a kind of a there's a pretty bad feeling on a Sunday night when you know you're about to start the the the next five days you need to be sort of at your best and you're at your worst it's like that clip from The Office where I think it's Dwight is talking to Jim and he goes I need you to promise me you'll be on your best behavior and he goes i promised someone else i'd be on my worst behavior like it's like when you need to be at your absolute best you realize like monday morning i need to wake up fresh as a spring daisy and it's sunday night and you're like i need another two days to recover uh-huh yeah the weekend so i was kind of actually relieved that that wasn't where things ended for me yeah but all of this is to say i never got my underwear that i needed And then every single day this week, it was like just one of those things where there was only so many hours in the day, and I was recording this stuff with you, I was recording Livewire, I was going to these various places to film things, and it just kept not happening until I'm going to be flying back by the time this show airs, and I'm probably going to be doing it once again commando style. I've also been in the city where you walk everywhere. So that was particularly poor planning because it's just a lot of activity, a lot of walking. And, you know, Andrew, we are men of valor. Lives should not become us. So I'll tell you, I think I may have—I may be calloused. Yeah. I'm actually pretty fine now. That's the weird part. Like, day one, I was like, oh, am I going to be okay if I don't get some undergarments soon? day eight honestly i i feel totally normal and fine i may never go back like to point out to

the audience here that and i think it's okay to say this luke but like your trip just sort of got extended like we were talking before the show started that like you were originally i guess gonna fly from new york back here to seattle for a little bit then home but then like they just added more dates you're gonna be going to dc like you first of all you may never go home again so

bubbles just no i'll be like this um this space force plane yeah just keep circling circle the

globe and so like how long i mean you're gonna be well no here's the thing i am going i'm 100%

going to buy a sufficient supply of underwear when i get to seattle but this is the thing about good old new york city every i was saying this to you on yesterday's episode everything's a hassle So in Seattle, I'll have a rental car, and I'll just go to one of many, many, many either Targets or a TJ Maxx or a whatever. I am in a part of New York that doesn't—you know what I considered doing one of the days? There are all these just, like, absolute, like, shitshow tourist trap places that just sell, like, Statue of Liberty snow globes and I, Heart, NY coffee mugs. and I mean I could like walk across the street and there's five of them and I considered just buying myself a supply of I heart New York underwear probably branded by the naked cowboy who stands in Times Square and he's not naked he plays in his tighty whities I literally considered just buying tourist underwear if that's even a thing

that would be an that would be interesting yeah you'd be like do people still have the word pink on their butts if they're wearing sweatpants I feel like that was a big thing

Oh yeah that was I think that was That was a fashion statement Yeah It was the kind of thing where I feel like I would be tempted To want to keep using I'm sure they would be like $25 a pair Yeah Which would be really expensive And then when I got home I'd be like Do I need to keep wearing these Because they were so expensive Right And I bought four pairs of them But I'm sure they're also like Like made out of something very itchy And Yeah You know Then it's like Could have a problem because uh you know i had my mondays i had a case of the tuesdays and my mondays i mean i don't even know i just i am i promise you if i don't know folks are going to be coming to a live wire on thursday it's going to be at town hall in seattle but if you are going to be there i just want you to know i will be wearing underwear i absolutely will be wearing underwear for that performance so come up afterwards say hi don't be afraid uh of my uh personal condition because i will have fixed the situation by that this is the um this

is the live wire that is totally sold out it is i think largely because of the popularity of one nora mcinerney yeah i was gonna say is this the one with nora on it yeah and that that helps and i know they're freaking out right they're booked us although they've now booked us in the bigger

room for like the spring oh so it's i promise you i will be lamenting the fact that we're trying to sell 800 tickets come the springtime yeah because you're not right now i'm lamenting you're gonna have like me like nobody's gonna i'm gonna um i mean i'm not wishing this on you andrew but if you could go through one personal tragedy between now and the spring could really get me out of a couple of jams um but uh but yeah that's gonna be a really fun show uh nora is gonna be there and then um kenji lopez alt will be there as well who is a really phenomenal food writer who happened to have moved to seattle a while ago and i don't know if you've followed the whole phenomenon of this guy in seattle do you have you seen any of the articles about i don't think so about kenji yeah no i don't think he is i mean he's a noted food writer um but what he's really now his impact on seattle is he has so many people following on instagram for his like food you know um i guess you would say recommendations if he goes to like a bagel shop in seattle and he likes the bagel and he says hey i had a really yummy bagel at this place there will be within the hour a line of people and then the place will be sold out of bagels and then it's the we can't blame kenji for this but it is exactly the thing you kind of don't like andrew which is for the next month it will be a whole thing to try to get a bagel from that place because there will be so much business like it really it sort of drives real commerce in the city of seattle now i mean he's also just somebody who knows everything about food he has a new cookback cookbook out that's just about walk cooking like cooking in a walk so anyway that's uh another guest that's going to be

i think very popular and part of why we sold out i want to jump in here for a second um and kind of tell a similar story or a related story so um you know i used to love my old neighborhood because there were a couple of kind of local haunts of course we talk about me going to teddy's a lot there there's also a pizza shop that was i don't know less than a mile away from my old place maybe half a mile or something and i really liked it it was like kind of uh it's a it's like a bar it's a pizza but it's place but it's more like a bar and they have like a lot of regulars and i stopped in there one time a couple years ago and i really liked the vibe and so that kind of became one of my kind of secondary places to go and sometimes like if i get done with work earlyish on a friday like when i lived in that neighborhood i loved walking to the pizza place getting myself a small pizza and just having like a shot and a beer at the bar and eating the pizza and reading my book and I would know some of the people there I really really like going there and of course I don't really do that anymore because I moved a few miles away a couple of weeks ago I had a haircut in that neighborhood around 430 or something so I'm done with my haircut around 5 I planned it this way I'm like okay done with my work for the week I just got my haircut and now I'm going to take my new hairdo and I'm going to go to my pizza place called A1 Pizza March there's a few of them around town

and i posted oh yeah you were texting me about that i think yeah it's a real talking off air you were like is that a whole thing is i don't want to give away too much but is that the one that's on the ave this one is on the ave kind of in the northern part by university heights it's by that yeah that old school that's all okay yeah i know that place yeah that place was there long ago but i think it's gotten more it's gotten more robust since since when i used to kind of live in

seattle yeah and i think it was a different ownership then a1 pizza mart is like because I first heard about it because there's one on the hill that used to be our boy Nick's, like, go-to place, and that's where he would go to watch his basketball games, and he was kind of a regular there, and then I realized, oh, there's one kind of near my house, and I used to, now I'm going into way too much detail, but, like, I used to walk from my apartment in Roosevelt, and I would have to pass a little, like, a newish little record store, like, kind of a, it's like a community space slash record store, I think it's just called Seattle Records, that opened while I was living there, and so I had this whole thing where I'd walk by, i would pass two of those little community free book libraries i sometimes i'd grab a book sometimes i'd walk into the record store and just kind of see what they had um and and also i'd usually have my camera with me so i'm sure i really looked like the part walking into a one pizza shop with my camera and a vinyl record of the doors 13 compilation were you wearing like a boy scout outfit did you go complete moonrise kingdom yeah i was moonrise kingdom no i was more like well whatever but anyway um it was like my little routine you know i love my routines especially when they're tied to like kind of the end of the work week right and kind of like a little little like a little rolling thunder i don't roll thunder the way you do but that that term always stuck with me no one should my rolling thunder ends around 11 p.m when i start off at 5 p.m but uh but anyway i'm in there the other

other day because I'm like, oh, I'm in the neighborhood. And so I'll get my haircut and then I'll go over there. I'm just going to post up. So anyway, I'm sitting in there meeting my pizza and there's some guy next to me. I don't know him. I don't really know anybody there anymore. And he's talking to the bartender. And I realized that this guy next to me is also a bartender, you know, who works somewhere else. And that's one thing I think one of the things I like about this place is it's clearly like a place that the bartenders go to drink. I don't know if you have any places like that. But for some reason, I always like that. I feel like there's a lot of industry people there oh yeah during their off time go there and then you can listen to them gossip to the bartender who's working the pizza shop and anyway i just i enjoy

those going to like somewhere to get your like your suit tailored this is a terrible analogy because i don't think this is something that sounds appealing to you but you're going somewhere get your suit tailored and everyone else they're getting their suit tailored are suit tailors right yeah you're like oh good this is okay this is where this is where you're coming this is a good

side yeah and so anyway and it's just that you know there's it's not a super special place it's just a nice little comfortable place that really fits my vibe and it's never too crowded whatever um so i'm listening to this guy talk and then it becomes clear that he works at i can't believe how long this story has become for such a small point but the guy who's sitting next to me underwear talk that's why i'm extending this i love you're like it's like mr walsh goes to

washington you have to filibuster the rest of the show to keep me off of my nether regions so this

guy to my left he's drinking a rum and coke now he's got about five ice cubes in the glass but

then he's chewing over time and one of them is melting and so now it's down to about four and a

half then another person walks in actually it was a husky football game that day so it's a little bit more crowded than usual that's a true story anyway um i hear this guy talking and he uh is a bartender at the pacific inn um which is like the only kind of divey little bar that i loved when i lived in wallingford i think it was again about a mile walk from where i lived there weren't a lot of like kind of dive bars in that area but there's this place it's a classic seattle institution i think it goes back i'm guessing to the 30s i could be wrong about that but they're known for like you're right that place is a very very beloved local joint yeah and everything around there has gotten really bougie and and very fancy and there's not a lot of places like that in that particular part of town but that place is held on um all of that is to say um you know i was going there a little bit before the pandemic when we lived in wallingford so this is going back five or six years now um and it was a place i was really filled with regulars and the bar stools actually are not even super comfortable at this place the pacific and they're they're very they're very close together it's like a very small little place that had a lot of has a lot of charm and a lot of regulars and and whatever and i really love it and i love that it survived this long um but i mentioned to the guy next to me i'm like oh so you work at the pi huh i love that place i used to go there all the time he's like yeah it's all tourists now and i was like oh really i'm kind of surprised by that i'm like i thought that was like a place that was like a real place for regulars and he's like well it used to be and then i remembered i said bourdain he said yep bourdain came to town around the time i was canute made with canoe berger that would

make sense i think skip because skip loves that place that's the same person um and i think i I think Canute took Bourdain to the Pacific Inn. So we really have Seattle treasure Canute Skip Berger to blame for all of this. The Mossback himself.

Yeah, he's a local writer. They won the only. It's just three names. It's a lot of names. Pick a lane, Canute. But yeah, so that was, well, obviously Bourdain was still alive. And I remember I was living in Wallingford, and I didn't go there the day he was there. But I remember all the regulars buzzing about how Bourdain was coming. And I actually think I don't know if I'm reconstructing history here But I feel like some people were even concerned about that Like it's going to kind of change the dynamic there And apparently it really did all these years later Because again that was pre-pandemic It's now a place that when people The guy next to me who worked there He says that like He says we just show up on all these lists of best fish now Which seems like a good thing to do But he's like if you're a tourist And you're coming to Seattle And you type in like best fish in Seattle of like the top three will be these fancy sushi places and then it's the pacific inn which is this tiny little dive bar that bourdain went to wow and so he's like you know we didn't talk that long but you could tell that he wasn't kind of thrilled but you'd think that like that'd be a boon to a business right but he was like yeah now it's like a bunch of a bunch of tourists and sort of like the regulars who used to be there all the time well not to mention that those shows live on

in perpetuity yeah you know they're on demand and of course with bourdain gone i think there's probably lots of people that go back and kind of watch his whole catalog of different things and stuff so yeah that's like that's sort of the gift that keeps on giving for for a long long time in terms of driving folks towards that place yeah i mean i kind of and i don't want to bring attention

to myself or or problems onto myself i was worried though that it was because i mentioned the pacific in on TBTL, then all of a sudden all these tourists were going there well you know what i could do is i could mention that i'll be there this week not wearing underwear that'll clear him out i mean that'll tamp business down as quick as anything be a tumbleweed blowing through that place by the time that news gets out yeah i mean just you say the word andrew you say the word and i'll clear i'll clear that place like the cooler or whatever the version of the cooler would be like that's exactly what it is yeah that's that is what the cooler does yeah so uh can i just before we go to break can i just read you a joke i saw on twitter that is totally not going to work as something I'm reading you, but it just made me laugh right before we started recording. It's from somebody named Louis Vertel, who I think I might follow on Twitter. He writes a lot of funny things on here. But someone put a list together of, I don't know what the list is because this is just screen capped, but it's pointing out that the actor Helena Bonham Carter is older than her boyfriend, right? So I don't know if this is a list of people who have the largest age gap between their partner or boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever. It's odd because I do, I think, look slightly askance if a man has a much younger girlfriend. But if a woman has a much younger boyfriend, I'm kind of like you go girl. And I don't know. I can't really explain why that's my reaction. But I just feel like the history, the patriarchy really works in one direction. And so it's like to me, it's like I feel like the other thing is very not upsetting to me as long as, you know, both people are of legal age. But so I kind of feel like this list was I don't know if they're trying to shade Helena Bonham Carter, but it says Helena Bonham Carter is 21 years older than her boyfriend. and her boyfriend's name is rye dag hombo rye dag hombo and louis vertel said helena bonham carter is dating noises that michael kane makes after being frightened rye dag hombo i don't know why that was like so funny to me

good it worked that's really good that reminds i saw something and it might have even been a listener I follow on Instagram I mean you see a lot of this stuff I don't know I don't know if this impresses me much um as the song goes but um somebody on Instagram in a story or something today pointed out that Macaulay Culkin I always have trouble saying his last name Macaulay Culkin is now Macaulay Griffin Macaulay Griffith is now older than Catherine O'Hara was when she played his mom in Home Alone oh and that's got some people being like oh wow yeah but I mean you No, we all get older. Some of those things blow your mind. Some of them don't. But it is an interesting thing to consider.

Well, and the thing is, Kathleen O'Hara, we've talked about this on the show.

Did I say her name wrong? No.

Oh, okay. I mean, not that I noticed. Okay. I'm just dealing with a lot of chafing over here, though, so I'm fairly distracted. But, no, I mean, I really feel like there needs to be—somebody needs to, I don't know, create a list of actors who have sort of shown up in more kind of culturally significant and, like, pop-culturally significant moments. I don't think—I don't know if I can think of a person who can rival Kathleen O'Hara. Catherine. Catherine, right? Catherine O'Hara I think I said her name wrong then

I know that's why I wondered if you were It's Catherine right? Probably Okay anyway sorry yeah I just wasn't sure if you were gently correcting me before

No I wasn't I was gently saying her name wrong Probably But like think about like You know obviously Home Alone That's a very iconic movie and it really is It's like the main Characters are of course Macaulay Culkin and the burglars but then she's right there yeah because it's her journey home you know and uh she runs into uh john candy john candy's polka outfit yep anyway but then of course i mean and before that i think maybe not before that but maybe kind of concurrent with that so much good like waiting

for guffman yeah that's what i always think of first like i was an era stuff yeah i was an age where i was like oh i went back and watched home alone or something i'm like oh my gosh that's right that's the woman from waiting for guffman who plays his mom like i remember having that revelation like 10 years ago and then of course i cut you off but then of course schitt's creek i mean there's a whole generation that um will know her mostly from schitt's creek which is probably

like and and and and kind of just wedged in there as a rounding error beetlejuice oh of course yeah that's a huge and the like iconic like dining room scene where she's like being possessed by Harry Belafonte Yeah exactly

Beetlejuice

Like I just feel like And there's probably Ten things I'm not even remembering And then you're right Exactly the kind of The shit's Thank you. creek thing which is i mean i guess probably her most iconic role at least it's as of now it's definitely the thing you will hear the most people doing an impression of or making a reference to whether it's herv ervlinger or whatever i mean that character is totally iconic and and that's just like you know the i don't know 20th thing that she's done that's been at a very specific and important to a lot of people in that moment kind of pop culture thing.

Yeah, and so she was in Guffman, Best in Show, Mighty Wind, and For Your Consideration. I don't think I saw For Your Consideration of all of those Christopher guests.

No, ironically, I didn't either.

Yeah. Why is it irony?

It was for my, I should watch that if I get a chance.

Yeah, right, right.

I considered it, and I got busy.

I should probably watch that, although I heard, I think what happened was a Mighty Wind, i think made me more sad than happy i think like wasn't a mighty wind like it wasn't that funny

right it was just tragic wasn't it i the last one of those that i saw was best in show and then a mighty wind came out and i remember being excited and then folks that i knew who had seen it saying it feels like it kind of was a little bit less great than best in show and then for your consideration was like i didn't see that either and people were saying it was kind of not as good is a mighty wind yeah so it felt maybe like that i don't know if you know what you would call it franchise because you know they're all different characters and whatever and then wasn't there one about mascots yes which that was a little bit i think in of course there was because that's where

we get the yip and the yiff tape that i play and um and some other tape as well oh you know who's in that is um isn't is jane lynch and jane lynch yeah she's the one who can i just play we got to go to a break but can i just can we go into the break by playing this jane lynch oh that's an interesting idea so you toss the break and then i'll just play this tape and then we'll take the

break all right uh so everything andrew just said and just know this is probably gonna be the best part of the show but we will return because we're contractually obligated to i don't think it's

overstating anything to say that i was the first female to bring notoriety uh to our field as many the moose the vernon community college baseball team's mascot i once held the splits for the entire length of an extra inning baseball game in spite of excruciating pain and a severe severing of my adductor longest muscle that eventually required four hours of surgery and added two and a half inches to my left leg, forcing me to retire. I wrote a tale documenting that journey, a moosing grace, a mascot's journey to God and success in real estate.

So good.

All right, let's thank some of our daily donors. It is amusing to me that people support this show with their hard-earned money because they would like us to keep doing it, even when so much of it involves me talking about my underwear or lack thereof. But you can stop now, by the way, if you'd like. You don't have to keep bringing it up. I got a specific email from Laurel Price, Andrew, of Seattle, Washington, our first donor we want to thank, saying, less cat talk, but more underwear talk, please. That is libel.

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It's libel to make Andrew quit the show. Thanks, Laurel. Also, thanks to Wendy Ross in Cheyenne, Wyoming. Nice. Very nice. Let's see. Alicia Elliott is in Stoughton, Massachusetts. I'm having a little trouble, Andrew, reading the screen because I don't have my glasses on.

Oh, do you want me to help out here?

No, I just have to scoot closer to the computer screen.

Lean in.

I was kind of lounging here a little bit. I'm kind of just taking her easy after a busy week of media making. And I realized I lounged too far back away from the monitor and I have to kind of squint. So thank you, Alicia, very much. Also, thanks to Amber Mills. In Beaverton, Oregon, I could now get to Beaverton, Andrew, without using Waze. If you put me, well, really anywhere in Washington State, that's not true. If it was like Spokane, I couldn't get to Beaverton. But if you put me in Portland, I could get to Beaverton, Oregon, no problemo. Yeah, you could just hop on the train. I've done that before. Oh, I was thinking in a car. Yeah. But, I mean, I just have been now to Beaverton a lot, which is a big difference for me, having lived in Portland for a couple of years now.

What is, so I stayed at a, is it McMenamin's? What do you call that chain of like hotels? McMenamin's. McMenamin's, yeah. I stayed in the McMenamin's in Beaverton, Oregon. I think it was like a, you know, often their model is to buy an old building and sort of, what's the word I'm looking for, renovate it and turn it into a bar or a living space or, you know, like an Airbnb or a hotel or whatever. And ours, I believe, was an old school. Are you familiar with the one in Beaverton? That's really typical.

Yeah, they've got – I don't know what that one – what the name of that one is, but, like, they've got the Kennedy School, which I think is in Portland. They've got the Anderson School, which is up in the north – up closer to Seattle. And, yeah, they do that a lot where they buy some kind of complex, this thing called Edgefield, which is out maybe, like, 20 minutes, I think, east of Portland, which is this sprawling – I think it used to actually be, like, an asylum. So it's got a swimming pool It's got all these places to stay Like different buildings It's a pretty cool approach actually

It was neat Because you get

Like I said Some of them will just have Like five different kinds of bars You can go to And they'll have concerts And all that stuff So yeah Those things are fairly cool Amber Mills is not fairly cool She's super cool Very As is Karen Sharpier Of Seattle, Washington Thank you Karen very much Thanks to Joan Wheeler As well In Bearaboo, Wisconsin You want to be careful If you're in the wild, people tell you this I mean the experts If you see a bear, you want to get large You want to make a lot of noise You want to throw rocks at it Don't turn your back on it And don't say boo Don't surprise a bear If a bear is coming down the trail And you want to play with them Don't boo a bear

no don't don't bear yeah and also don't throw a surprise party for a bear either like generally

no they hate it the only person who would hate that more would be you by the way i think it was

your birthday recently or it's today no no no it's in a couple of weeks it's like a miss around

thanksgiving oh okay um but i was thinking if i were to throw you a surprise birthday party would that be i'm not going to obviously you know me i yeah you know can barely be bothered to respond to an email so if they're if you're safe with anyone not throwing you a surprise party it's me but if someone were to do that for you would that be something that would be like pretty a pretty

bad experience for you probably yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't want that and also if anybody did that for me like because you have to be pretty close to somebody to throw them a surprise party i think i'd be like well do you know me at all you know what i mean i'm not a surprise party kind of guy i wouldn't like that i hopefully try to stay cool about it but i wouldn't like it but i mean i like you know like what do you have you been thinking about what you're going to get me for my birthday we need a new um xbox our xbox is basically broken now it's like i can barely get it to connect to the internet every time i turn it on those things are um valuable if you want to

give me one of those okay i um this is the first time hearing they still make xbox just think about i know that sounds like i'm trying to be funny i just am pretty out of the loop on that even though i've claimed this week that i might become a gamer now that i played trombone champion yeah but um Yeah, I can look into that. Did I tell you the time when – thank you, by the way, very much to all of our donors for making today's episode possible. We really do appreciate you. Hello and welcome to Top Story. How early in the days of TBTL? um i don't know if it was there was just somebody working at microsoft who was a 10 or if they got their wires crossed and were just misunderstood where i ranked in terms of being a known person in seattle but somebody just said hey if you're interested uh we have a gifting program out here this is before the word influencer really was like in play but i think they again had deeply misunderstood what my impact on the local scene would be and they said if you'd like to come out to our store and just go ahead and pick anything you want in and it's like xboxes controllers like it was i think around the time when microsoft was just starting to have i don't know if they had a retail store yet to like rival the apple store but they definitely had a facility on the campus where you could just get stuff like that and it was shocking to me shocking and i also it couldn't have been more lost on a person like i think i gave one of my brothers the xbox which i didn't know it's like a very big deal in those days you know like there was they gave me all this stuff it was so generous of them they gave me a couple zunes oh nice do you still have those those things

were kind of i didn't have one but they looked really cool they were like i we made fun of them

but they were pretty cool i bet you there's probably like a brisk zune business that's being done on on ebay right now i got a couple of zunes i got an xbox i forget what else i got and it was just like i was very thankful but i was like man are you ever giving this to the wrong person like i have no it was like the woman the other night when we were uh doing a story in portland we're working on this cannabis cuisine story and we went to a dinner party this is the one i've talked about a lot now where i got a little higher than i meant to and she gave me a gift bag full of like very strong edibles and i was like thank you but i just gave it to our sound guy because i was like i have like i think it was like a hundred milligram like bar of something and i was like i will be one of those people that you see in like a youtube video who's so high they think that they're gonna forget how to breathe like they call 9-1-1 because they're like i can't breathe anymore i can't breathe and the 9-1-1 person's like well you're breathing right now you're talking to me no i can't breathe i'm dying i'm dead i'm not breathing they're like like i would have been that person i would

be that person if i were to eat one of those things did you hear the one about um the guy who made a joke about about the about the guy that helena bonham carter the guy who made a joke about the death of the Zune right after it ceased production, and his friend said, hey, too Zune. Too Zune. That was smooth. I hope people are taking notes. You know, that's how you just smoothly make up a joke and just work it into conversation, just on the fly like that. That's professional joke telling right there.

That's why they call me the Prince of Queens, Andrew. uh let's talk a little bit about this i think fairly wild story uh from floridatoday.com sonic booms heard across florida as secret space force space plane returns to earth have you had a chance to look at a photo of the secret space plane no let me take a look at this

I saw this on the show sheet yesterday, and I forgot to investigate this. So is this confirmed, or this is—

Oh, this is real, even though if it were April 1st, I'd be like, there's no way this is real, or this is a story from The Onion.

It looks like a shuttle. Am I looking at the right thing here?

It looks exactly like a space shuttle, but it's 30 feet long. If you keep scrolling and you see a picture of a human standing next to it for scale, it's like the love child of a drone and the space shuttle. By the way, I hope the drone was the dad because otherwise you ever see a dog that's like a breed and you're like, oh, God, I hope the Great Dane was the mom.

So much underwear talk and now you're bringing this sexual content into the show.

That's we sometimes, Andrew, we just have to earn our explicit rating. It's like use it or lose it. If we don't say something explicit, then we are. Anyway, so what happened recently was a bunch of people in Florida were reporting a bunch of sonic booms happening over their homes and they couldn't figure out what was going on. And it was this thing called the X-37B, a robotic military spacecraft that looks like a miniature space shuttle, was coming down and I think it's Kennedy Space Center maybe, was landing at a facility at the Kennedy Space Center. Space Force confirmed the touchdown occurred at 522 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. all told the 30 foot space plane spent 908 days in low earth orbit uh shattering the previous record its purpose is largely a secret yeah i hope i mean it's weird i always want more information about things but this seems like something that we shouldn't even know about well sort of although

i mean i don't this is a weird sentence but i don't know how to feel about the space force luke like it just see you well that's the thing it was like yeah tell me about the thing because it just seemed like such a dumb Trumpy thing so if this is a dumb Trumpy thing like what do maybe we should

have more transparency on what this plane was doing um the when I say that's the thing I mean I'm with you in that space it doesn't help that they made a show starring Steve Carell called Space Force like right after Trump like sharted out the idea you know what I mean like sorry I'm on a roll with this scatological stuff today andrew but um you know what i mean like it's it seemed like absolute bs when trump floated it and then it seemed like it was even more mockable when there was a kind of a sort of satirical show about it but then on the other hand i don't know like space is a fairly large place i've heard i'm not a scientologist but like it is Thank you.

Like, here's the thing about space. You can have a lot of weapons in space, it turns out, at this point. Like, and maybe, I don't know where they are exactly with the technology, but it's not, I don't think it's far off that you could weaponize space in some way. Either by literally putting weapons up there that can deploy stuff to Earth, or by destroying, you know, communication satellites and things like that. I think we can now, like, shoot satellites down or send something up. in other words space is actually pretty important i think to the sort of national security of a lot of places which means probably we should have some like it doesn't seem like it's nasa's job so while i think it was so dumb and such a stunt of trump to try to like deflect with this silly thing i actually don't think it's the worst idea for us to have a little bit of an eye on what's

going on up there have you heard this the official space force song i'm please tell me that that's a real thing and you're not yeah no no it's and the guy said to zune um no this came out i'm looking at the press release i'm looking at the press release from september 20th 2022 so it's not that old i'm i heard this on the levitard show a few weeks ago which is why i know about it i haven't vetted this but i'm playing this from the military officers association of america Their YouTube page So I'm hoping this is the real version It's 42 seconds long Since this is government music I don't think that Spotify can say anything about it So let's just take a listen to it Unless Spotify hates the troops Take a listen to this Wait, this is not what I remember

Now that's funny, that looks official.

I thought there was a line about aliens in the one that they played. Maybe I got fooled by the internet

Wait, I have a lot of thoughts First of all, can you play it again and just duck it down after like four seconds?

Yeah, okay, here we go

This is special NPR election coverage I'm Robert Siegel

And I'm Linda Wertheimer

It doesn't exactly like NPR elections music The other thing is How do we not have Odessa or some other leading I don't even know what you call that electro band how we do we not have Daft Punk I know they're French but like what I'm sorry this is space we're talking about this is not old Ironside doing battle with the Merrimack or you know what I mean this is the next one is this the follow-up space this is just space force space force

nope uh we had an insider at npr um who sent me all of the versions of the election oh my god

dude npr because you honestly so often i don't know if there's anything and maybe it's just maybe i've gotten my batteries recharged because of the largely positive outcome of the recent election but um there's nothing that fills me with sort of a more warm feeling than the npr election coverage special music i'm sorry it's just it's we've talked about a lot on the show where you and i were on those nights often working at the member station and stuff like that yeah but um i do think that space for a song it sounds like it's it's far too aaron copeland and it needs to be it needs to be updated we're talking about space it needs to be music that feels like it's from this century it would seem

as opposed well I think they're trying to give it I think that they want it to have gravitas like first of all like the first of all I guess it should be something that marching bands can play right because like all of the all of the other armed forces have songs that marching bands can play

this is the one we need house DJs to be able to play

right yeah

I mean, honestly, give everyone a glow stick.

Does Space Force have a football team? I'm not joking. Right, because Army and Navy do, right? Army and Navy do, right? Doesn't Air Force as well?

I don't think the problem is I don't think Space Force has a university currently.

Air Force football to honor Space Force with new uniform design. So the Air Force sees them as brethren. And so the Air Force football team. Oh, guess what I just got, Luke? Please turn off your ad blocker. Call back to yesterday But yeah, so the Air Force has a special Uniform that sometimes their football team Tell me this wouldn't be a better Space Force song. It's pretty good. Doesn't this feel like something's happening? We're going to space.

What are you playing?

This is a song by Odessa. And then this is where like a glee choir starts singing. Space Force, meet the Space Force

When you're done with that, I think I found the longer version of the song I wanted to hear

Does it literally mention aliens? Because I really hope it does

I thought it did, hold on, I'm trying to do this on the fly I'm trying to figure out if I was fooled by that show But I thought they, or somehow like maybe brought them up So here's a 2 minute, 27 second video I found But I'm not 100% sure that this

First of all, we wanted a song that spoke to our guardians that brought to life our motto, Semper Super, always above. And I got a text from a gentleman named Jamie Tichner. Jamie was a national singer.

So you hear this music they're playing behind him? This is space music.

He decided he wanted to get back to his country and joined the Air Force and joined the Air Force band in Colorado Springs. And he supported us.

Okay, so that's a little background. And I thought I found it because I do believe that the version that I heard originally on that podcast was a longer version that had a much more of a buildup and it sounded, I thought it sounded spacier. like the music leading up to those but I'm the Space Force full song come on internet you're letting me down here but I can't hear it what about can USA Today no it's the same thing I don't want to hear why anyway that's that's the song you heard the lyrics

here's what I understand why didn't they just do something kind of more like this just basically use an existing property that we already are familiar with Space Force, it's the Space Force. They're going way in space. Look out, there's the Germans. They're trying to shoot a laser in your face. Hey, not bad. The moon is a good place to hide if you are building a... This is where I'm starting to really regret the decision to try to sing a Space Force song. Over the midi version of the Flintstones.

Oh, my God. Anyway. I'm sorry. I feel a little. I mean, I'm trying to figure out what I heard. I really want to.

Listen, this is. Well, let's just. How about this? This can be. I know you don't like me giving you assignments, but maybe tomorrow.

Is that established? Is that something that.

No, I mean, I feel like it's poor form. Like if you told me, hey, you got to look this up by tomorrow, I'd be like, back off, Beth Perlman. You're not my supervisor.

Back off, Beth. That's what I'm going to start saying to you, but I'm not going to start saying it to Beth

We have the nicest, least pushy supervisor in the history of the world Whose regular feedback is It's okay if you make fun of me

I don't think there's a reference So I'm going to read the lyrics as we heard them I was just looking for the version I thought there was a longer build up But maybe they were fumbling around on the Levitard show And didn't find the right version Because all I can find is the short one with the lyrics

Well, and they've got like ten people working on this show This is just two of us So I'm giving us a little break

So I guess the reference is standing guard both night and day. I don't know why they assumed that was about aliens. But here are the lyrics, if you couldn't hear them clear enough in what I played before. We're the mighty watchful eye, guardians beyond the blue, the invisible front line, war fighters, brave and true, boldly reaching into space. There's no limit to our sky, standing guard both night and day. We're the space force from on high. And I'd like to point out the headline from the New York Times about this is Space Force Song shoots for the stars, but some think it falls flat.

That was Andrew Walsh reading from his new book of poetry, Beyond the Stars. That's right. That really did sound like a little like slam poetry for like a minute there. But again, what I would really like to at some point hear is what the background music was. Do you think the thing you played earlier was the song, but that's just a shorter version? Or do you think there's a...

I don't think there's a longer version. There's a spacey version. I think I might have just been wrong. I think they might have been fumbling around on the Levitard show. It's funny. I told you I can often remember where I was when I heard a segment or something. I remember I was kind of in the shower listening. I have this thing now where I can take my phone into the shower because it's kind of water-resistant, and my shower's big enough that there's a little shelf, And I'm okay, like, just, like, putting on a podcast and then just setting my phone on the shelf in a way that the shelf amplifies the sound of it a little bit, if that makes sense. Oh, dude, I have the exact same move. Yeah.

When I'm in a hotel room, if they have a tissue box. Oh, yeah. Like, you know, the.

tissue boxes covered in the hotel room often with a shell yep i take that i flip it over i put my

phone in there yes and i put that right at the edge of the shower yes exactly and so i just happen to remember like but it's you know it's not like listening with headphones on so i might have been mishearing some things maybe they they were fumbling around and found the wrong file at first because even the new york times links to this version which is like you know 15 seconds or like 40 seconds long and has those it goes right into those lyrics i was i thought it was i you do need i feel like you need a bigger build-up and you need more space sound in there i i agree with that and more lasers like more pew pew pew because that's obviously what you're going to use out

there right you got to shoot down the rooskies right or whatever dang it i forgot to work the rooskies into my yeah into my into my soon soon to climb the charts flintstones parody work that

Yeah, but anyway, anything more on this shuttle that's been flying around?

I just think it's kind of interesting. I mean, it's just interesting the look of it, which is probably kind of lost on the listeners because they can't see it. But just imagine a tiny space shuttle. And also, it's interesting to me that it can just fly, because it doesn't have any humans on board, it can just fly around the globe, I guess, almost perpetually, and they bring it down every once in a while to check on it. Also, it doesn't have any windows, which for some reason made me feel very claustrophobic, even though, let me restate, there were no humans on board, but it was still kind of a mind F to look at it and realize that it has no windows.

Yeah, that is odd. It would be like working at KCRW before they moved.

Where you once broadcast for 908 straight days. That's right. A new record.

Sometimes it felt like it.

With the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man. It's not from a female.

All right. We still had a couple of top stories that we can, I think, push until tomorrow. Because I do think—my eyes were very open by this suitcase story that you sent me. But I've also got—I want to push back on that story a little bit. Yeah, I think it's maybe worth it. I want to find out if what I've been doing is actually acceptable. Because I've been doing a slight tweak, a slight play on this whole thing. So we will get into that tomorrow on the show. But for today, is there an email or V-mail that is striking your fancy?

Yeah, you know, how am I caught unprepared for this segment? Here's a voicemail that we got from listener Rachel, I think a couple of weeks ago, just along the topic of how we have more underwear talk. Yeah, she wanted to know what your status is. No, she didn't. Nobody did. Um, but, um, you know, we have that town around here called Des Moines, right? Where they pronounce, did I do that right? Yeah, they pronounce the S even though you shouldn't pronounce the S in that word. And other town names like that that we talk about from time to time. Rachel had this to share.

Hi, this is Listener Rachel from Pittsburgh. Um, I guess I just wanted to share that it's not just the South that I think feels, uh, confident in their mispronunciation of their own city's name. In Pennsylvania, we have Versailles, which looks and is spelled exactly the same as, like, the Palace of Versailles in France, but we pronounce it Versailles. So, I don't know. Power out.

I'm also seeing this. This looks like it just came in, Luke. This is from listener Cara, and this relates back to the ongoing conversation we've been having about that raisin. No, I guess it's Raising Canes. I think I said raisin.

No, I think it's raisin.

Is it like an apostrophe? I don't know.

No, you know what? That's on me because I wrote it on the show sheet as raisin cane. But I think it is maybe raising.

Yeah, it's raising canes. But I'll just read this. And I'm kind of reading this on the fly. It's more popular if it was just an end. Well, but people would think that you serve raisins is kind of the problem.

Well, that's all they're allowed to serve at that one place.

Yeah, right. So that was the deal. So this raising canes was going to be building a new store. was actually in process of building a new location. And then it turns out there was an agreement that had already been established that no other restaurant except for McDonald's could sell chicken products there. We brought this up again yesterday on the show. And I like this because it comes from somebody who's kind of in the know here. Listener Kara says, howdy, friendos. I work in the legal department of a national restaurant chain. Where do you think Kara works? Are we legally allowed to even guess?

Legal department of a national, you know, it'd be ironic.

If it was Raising Cane If it was legal seafood Terrible name

But I don't think that's national I think that's just a Boston thing Actually no, I think there's one in D.C. too Is there? It's regional, it's a Utica thing

Anyway, Kara says I'm no expert Well, you suddenly have some pretty good credentials here I thought I'd chime in on the topic of the Raising Cane Slash McDonald's fiasco

Yes, it is common for lease agreements to include exclusive use clauses, which prohibit the owner of the shopping center from renting space to another business that offers a similar product. That's true of company-owned stores and franchises. It doesn't surprise me that McDonald's would use the entire force of their corporate legal department to exclude any competition that might arise as long as it falls within the bounds of the lease agreement. If the owner of the shopping center entered into an agreement with Raising Cane's that violated McDonald's exclusive rights to sell boneless chicken, then yes, I'm guessing that the landlord will have a nasty lawsuit on their hands. Apologies for the driest lister email you've ever received. No, I appreciate that.

You've just got to baste that email and just low and slow.

Yes. And it will be juicy. Oh, God. Should I do that tonight? Should I roast a chicken tonight? That sounds nice. It's cold in Seattle, right? It is pretty cold. And I love I love making a chicken mostly because I love the way it makes the house smell. And maybe it would be a good dry run for Thanksgiving.

Can I can I make this even can I take I don't think that email is dry, by the way, from the listener. I'm interested in it. But now can I take something that was legally useful and throw a bunch of questions at the wall from a non lawyer myself? I'm me. I'm going to answer the person I'm talking about in that story.

I'm going to answer all of your questions. I have no idea what the answer should be, but I'm going to answer them all as yes or no questions.

Okay, perfect. What I'm wondering is if the shopping center, if they are responsible to tell Raising Canes, much less fun that way, Raising Canes, If they're responsible to tell them about any kind of, you know, sort of conflicts, if they don't ever ask about it, because when I read that initial article, what I did not see was I saw a lot of I saw a lot of legal mumbo jumbo, Andrew, coming from the Raising Canes people, which said, like, this is ridiculous. us we put all this money into it they should have told us what i didn't see anywhere was them saying here is the document where we asked are there any restrictions that would negatively impact our business are there any have you signed any other agreements etc like is it possible it never even occurred to the raising canes people to ask about this and so the uh folks at the the shops at the creek didn't tell them but is that their responsibility to disclose that that's that's what

i'm wondering about from a legal standpoint yes no um i don't know um but i uh well that's the thing like for me i feel like there has to it has to be disclosed right and so and again i have no idea who i'm talking about like kara says i'm no expert well what the hell do i know about any of this but like if you're a business and if this is a you love a good chicken finger and this is a common thing that like you know you're you're building something into a development or some sort of a you know a commercial space like this that would have regulations based on the other people who are running businesses there well then you are now new to this development area right and so there must be all kinds of legal papers that you have to sign it has to be disclosed at some point right like we are now a new business that is entering this kind of quasi partnership with a development organization um it i'm trying to figure out like was it buried in the paperwork and nobody noticed it because if that was the case then yeah raising canes just has to have better legal representation who are like dotting every i and crossing every t right raising every canes raising every case i think the more interesting legal question now is what if you And I wanted to start a company called Raisin Canes, where we sell only raisin related foods and candy canes and candy canes.

Can we about how that store would be in a parallel universe where either of those things were good? We only sell raisin flavored candy canes around the holidays. God, baby. People would be dying for applets and cutlets. please god get me some applets and cotlets by comparison to this truly i mean candy canes also look i don't want to yuck anyone's yum and there's probably some folks love that stuff and maybe there's some kids listening that love that enjoy but i just i don't think i've ever i've certainly consumed some candy canes like as a kid because of it just being like well that's candy so i should have it but like in adulthood i just can't think of anything i'm less interested well a raisin flavored candy cane would be something i'm less interested in there yeah but but just a typical candy cane it just does not that's not uh something that i particularly look forward to

no me neither even as a kid i don't think i was a soup

attracted to them like they're they're messy right you got to do that thing where you kind of are peeling down the wrapper as you eat it because you don't want to just like be touching the i assume most people are holding the hook end of it unless you're oh you want to talk about a

mildly yeah you want to get mildly infuriating someone who starts at the hook of the candy i

know as did you hear me stop like as i was considering that it was honestly put them on a watch list immediately right um so but then you're like kind of peeling it down because you don't want your hand sticky and then like your face kind of gets a little sticky from eating it as well the i think i've probably had one in somewhat recent years because i think somebody donated some or somebody puts them out on a table somewhere or something and they were the little kinds you know like the little mini kind that you can maybe like hold for a second but really as an adult you can kind of just pop the whole thing in your mouth if you're careful with it but then even then you start chewing it they really stick in your teeth they really stick

Yeah, and now I will tell you what is effectively a candy cane, but just in the little kind of circular kind of disc form. Oh, yeah, right, yeah. There will be a dish of them at the restaurant on your way out or whatever. I have been known to pop one of those in my mouth, which is kind of funny because it's just a candy cane. It is a candy cane, yeah. But there's something about its shape as more like a lozenge that is more appealing to me than dealing with a candy cane.

Yeah, neither one of us likes sticky fingers or messy food, I think, although I have a higher tolerance for things because I do love ribs and chicken wings and what have you. I'll tell you this, though. No, I'm not going to tell you. I'm going to ask because that's my role as a journalist. Luke, if you are confronted with a bowl of those candies and you have three choices, you have white with red stripes, white with green stripes, or the rare brown with green stripes. Which one are you taking? Brown. Yeah.

Because I'm hoping brown is like butterscotch. Ew. Well, does the brown indicate a different flavor?

I thought it was a minty chocolate flavor. Maybe I've never had one. Oh, you know what? I think it is. Why would you want minty butterscotch? That doesn't sound good.

Well, because I love butterscotch. Ugh, I know. Like, I love, I'll, you know, I'll do some damage on a thing of Werther's.

Really? You will? I love the texture of a Werther's. They're the ones that have the little divot in there, right? Like, they're very satisfying as far as the mouthfeel.

It's just, you know, it's like ergonomically designed for your tongue. Like, you put Papa Werther's in your mouth and tell me you're not feeling better immediately about whatever's going on in your life. Do you know they were invented by a guy who went by the name Papa Werther's? Actually, very possible. His grandkids could probably, Papa Werther.

Anyway. My grandma had a candy bowl. You know what I'd go for was the root beer.

Don't say ribbon candy or this show. I mean, this show, this friendship is over.

What about root beer barrels?

Oh, so good.

Yeah, right?

So good. I wish I had one right now. I wish I had a root beer barrel the size of an actual root beer barrel. I'd just go over it. I'd lick it like a horse in Montana going up to a salt lick. That would be great.

Well, you're in the city that never sleeps. I think you can go find yourself.

I bet you I can find one. You know, I can get you a root beer barrel, a realistic-sized candy root beer barrel, probably at the M&M store. or one of these other joints that I'm looking at from this window. All right, well, enjoy your remaining hours there. Thank you, and I will enjoy seeing all of you. I guess I'm going to be, tomorrow I'm going to be at your actual house. Oh, yeah, right.

That'll be fun.

Just, you know, say, you know, put out the peppermint candy dish for me that you know I love.

Yeah.

Put out some of those circus peanuts that you know I love so much, please.

I don't know if I've even had those.

Oh, do not under any circumstances. Those are real bad. Okay, see everybody tomorrow. Until then, thank you for listening. Thanks for being part of TBT. I'll have a great Wednesday. Please remember, no mountain too tall. Thank you. Good luck to all.

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