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#3828 Elder These Messages
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3828 Elder These Messages

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

December 2, 2022 | 01:07:58 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke records the show from his sick bed after catching a bug. Now he wants to do the show from bed all the time. Meanwhile, don't worry, Drew Brees didn't get struck by lightning.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:56 | Speaker 6:

All clear! Go for it! Cool. This is like Mythbusters! Have you seen that show? What? Have you seen the show Mythbusters? No. Is it good? It is. What's the basis of it? Ah, well, it's these two guys. Well, it's a little team. And they put myths to the test. Like, uh... Let me think of a good one here. Um, man, I'm drawing a blank. I watch this show all the time. I can't believe I can't think of one. Oh, it would be like, uh, if somebody breaks a window on a plane, would that create a vacuum? And they put it to the test. Wow. Okay. Does it? Nope. Okay, you ready for this? T-B-T-L.

00:00:58 - 00:01:13 | Speaker 7:

guess what day it is guess what day it is it's friday friday gotta get down on friday everybody's looking forward to the weekend well uh i think i'm looking forward to cracking up

00:01:13 - 00:01:19 | Speaker 8:

uh i hope i can like you know totally crack up so uh i haven't like totally cracked up in a long

00:01:19 - 00:01:27 | Speaker 4:

time and my uh grandpa likes to say hot diggity dog as i like to say hot damn it's a cosmic mix

00:01:27 - 00:01:39 | Speaker 2:

of the action of the 90s combined with the exploitation films of the 70s. Definitely a little bit Michael Mann. It's kind of a cosmic gumbo. It almost moves to the beat of jazz.

00:01:40 - 00:01:47 | Speaker 3:

Stop talking, get off the phone, and let's do this. Let's do this immediately. Let's go.

00:01:49 - 00:02:29 | Speaker 4:

All right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of TVTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live you want to do a make-believe radio show in a room somewhere i'm telling you there's no money in that i'm your host luke burbank and yes i am doing a make-believe radio show in a room somewhere specifically my bedroom at the hollywood broadcast center right here in portland oregon bring it back home baby bring it back home where I am severely under the weather, not feeling great on this Friday. Nausea. Cold sweats.

00:02:30 - 00:02:39 | Speaker 2:

Hot sweats. Involuntary trembling. Dead hands. Numb lips. Fingernail sensitivity. Pelvic discomfort.

00:02:40 - 00:03:25 | Speaker 4:

All of that is what I'm suffering through right now. i uh woke up in the middle of the night just with an intense cold i believe sore throat head pain discomfort of all kinds and um and then i finally fell asleep this is the way you know this is the way our bodies work i finally fell back asleep and got some good sleep starting at about 6 30 a.m which pushed me right through showtime uh when we should have been starting and then I just ran a big, long mic cable from the studio all the way in here to my bedroom, and I'm sitting here, I'm lying here, truthfully, on my bed, bringing you this award-winning content.

00:03:25 - 00:03:26 | Speaker 5:

Let the fun begin.

00:03:26 - 00:04:01 | Speaker 4:

On a Friday, we haven't won any awards, but I remain hopeful we will someday. This is episode 3,828 in a collector series. If you're saying, didn't you say that yesterday, Luke? Yes, I did, because I had the show numbers off this week. I apologize. So here we are, episode 3,828. I am, well, this is what I sound like, everybody. You're welcome. And I want to tell you that Drew Brees, the Hall of Fame NFL quarterback, Drew Brees was not hit by lightning.

00:04:02 - 00:04:03 | Unknown:

Oh, my God!

00:04:03 - 00:04:26 | Speaker 4:

If you got up this morning and you saw some kind of, I don't know, trending topic on Twitter that Drew Brees was hit by lightning, I'm here to tell you he was not. It was part of some viral campaign that we'll talk about. We'll give them exactly the attention that they're seeking, I guess, by talking about it. Plus, we'll do some music for your weekend on this Friday, and we will talk to this guy.

00:04:26 - 00:04:28 | Speaker 6:

That's a tuna, bro!

00:04:28 - 00:04:42 | Speaker 4:

The longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known, for his depictions of the tall ships. He's doing the work, he's baby stepping And he is going to probably need to carry the show today He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now Good morning, my friend

00:04:42 - 00:04:54 | Speaker 5:

Good morning, Luke I'm trying to think, what is the most useless advice That we give to sick people? You know, like I used to say all the time Hey, oh, I'm sorry you're sick, drink lots of orange juice

00:04:54 - 00:04:56 | Speaker 4:

Feed a cold, starve a fever

00:04:56 - 00:04:57 | Speaker 5:

Yeah, get less

00:04:57 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 4:

Is that actually what that is or is it feed a fever?

00:05:00 - 00:05:12 | Speaker 1:

Feet a fever, starve a cold. Without looking it up. Feet a fever, starve a cold. No, I think you feed a cold, starve a fever. That doesn't sound right. Why are we ever starving ourselves when we're sick? Exactly. That doesn't sound right.

00:05:12 - 00:05:19 | Speaker 2:

How is starving, right? There's no, I can't think of a universe in which fewer calories in your body is going to promote healing.

00:05:20 - 00:05:39 | Speaker 1:

That's how I feel about it. It's feed a cold, starve a fever. I don't think that's right, though. I think we should feed our colds. I think we should feed our fevers. I think we should feed ourselves, feed our feelings, feed our emotions. That's what I've been doing. I had a pot pie at like midnight last night. Look at me. I don't have a fever or a cold. That sounds comforting.

00:05:39 - 00:05:50 | Speaker 2:

I want to door dash some chicken noodle soup into this bedroom right now. I want to actually, not to make it weird for the dasher, but I would like them to pour it into my mouth.

00:05:50 - 00:06:06 | Speaker 1:

Well, what do you tip on that? Everything has a price, I suppose. Do they have to wear Roman garb? Do they have to wear robes as they ladle it in your mouth? I want you to get a different website for that service, though, truthfully. Along with grapes.

00:06:07 - 00:06:18 | Speaker 2:

The one where they gingerly and gently pour chicken soup in your mouth and then dab your chin with a napkin because some of it's going to get on the chin.

00:06:18 - 00:06:20 | Speaker 1:

They call it door dab is what they call that service.

00:06:21 - 00:06:58 | Speaker 2:

I don't have my bell in here. That's a good, that's a solid one. Of that one. You know, honestly, you need to be, you don't need to be careful, Andrew, at all. I need to be careful. It's very comfortable doing the show from bed. Like, could this be my new, I've done this before, I think a few years ago. Back when I lived in Bellingham, I remember I was under the weather, and I did this show from bed. And I might have said this then, but it's, this is very cozy. I'm going to send you a picture, and I need to be careful because I could see myself just doing the show from bed more, sometimes just for fun.

00:06:58 - 00:07:13 | Speaker 1:

Well, here's the question on every listener's mind right now, not only our listeners, but this is the question on America's mind right now, is did you find your cough button? Oh, I think I just got the answer to that. That was not – Did I hear a cough as I was asking if you found your cough? I'm sorry.

00:07:13 - 00:07:29 | Speaker 2:

I tried to hold the microphone. No, I must have left my ding-dang cough button in a hotel room somewhere. Maybe it's in New York. I don't know, but I need to jump back on the Amazon.com and get one sent out here because I think that one is gone.

00:07:29 - 00:07:53 | Speaker 1:

Do you think that there's somebody who works in maybe housekeeping or maybe it's down at the front desk? Where is that thing right now? Is it on a cart? Is it on the underside of a cart where you would hide somebody if you're trying to sneak them through a hotel like we talked about yesterday? or what is it down like isn't in a lost and found bin that's like an old like tub that people used to put dishes in in a restaurant but now it just holds like things that people left in their room

00:07:53 - 00:08:45 | Speaker 2:

it makes me sad to think about this button right because there's no way that the it's very unlikely the person who found it is also doing a podcast occasionally from the road and needs to mute their microphone oh maybe you know what i realized when i said that out loud there's actually a very good chance yeah well the good news is the cough button has gone to a nice home somewhere you know probably out in uh like jamaica queens there's somebody who's doing their their their housekeeping podcast about the hotel housekeeping industry and now they're able to um you know cough and to clear their throat without bothering their listeners so i it's kind of a nice story i'm wondering who do you think is the filmmaker to make this movie about this cough button i can really see it being kind of like from the perspective of the cough button is that like

00:08:45 - 00:09:59 | Speaker 1:

the is that like the red violin or something what is the isn't there a movie about it that follows a violin around as it passes through hands and i think generations yes whoever made that one yeah that's the we need them to make the blue cough button or we're just or hear me out here okay who is um what about living here and what about livingston taylor writing a song about this cough button because this is a reference taylor no livingston taylor james taylor's brother and i bring this up too i bring this up in conversation at least once a year i've told you this many times nobody ever remembered because kind of a distant bell because who is Livingston Taylor again here's a distant bell that was far away from my microphone Livingston Taylor is James Taylor's brother I have a fantasy of someday meeting James Taylor and saying oh my gosh are you Livingston Taylor's brother just a gentle little negging Livingston Taylor also made music that sounded remarkably like his brother's music but a little bit more frivolous I believe, and he made a song called Dollar Bill Song Livingston Taylor, and it followed.

00:10:00 - 00:10:01 | Speaker 3:

I do remember us talking about this.

00:10:01 - 00:10:08 | Speaker 2:

It follows a dollar. Here, let me. Now, I don't know if Spotify is going to pull our show off of their platform because I'm playing this.

00:10:08 - 00:10:08 | Speaker 3:

Wait.

00:10:08 - 00:10:08 | Speaker 2:

Oh, wow.

00:10:09 - 00:10:43 | Speaker 3:

Are we getting your, what do they call that thing that everybody was doing this week? The Spotify rap. Spotify rap. Are we getting your rap? Is Livingston Taylor your most played artist this year? So much Livingston Taylor. Now, that would be worth humble bragging on. I know that you're a little, like, we were talking yesterday before we started rolling on the show, and the Spotify rap thing came up and you were kind of like, you know, everyone have fun, do your thing, but it didn't seem like it was really for you in a way or there was something about the sort of publishing of all of it that was, you know, maybe felt 5% sort of performative to you?

00:10:44 - 00:10:47 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm not really into Spotify rap. I don't care. People can do their own thing.

00:10:52 - 00:10:54 | Speaker 1:

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:10:54 - 00:10:56 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, yeah.

00:10:56 - 00:10:58 | Speaker 3:

He mentions Wayne's World in the song?

00:10:58 - 00:11:10 | Speaker 2:

I'm wondering if this is an updated version. I don't know when this song was written. Maybe this song is actually from the 90s. Hold on, I'm sorry. Back up. First, I'm going to go to the tweet. There's so much. There's so much. Now I'm going to wake up. Hot chew.

00:11:12 - 00:11:13 | Speaker 3:

What was that tweet?

00:11:13 - 00:11:21 | Speaker 2:

You're either a person or a woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo.

00:11:21 - 00:11:48 | Speaker 3:

There's only two kinds of snores that happen in cartoons. So, okay, I'm going to put it. So James Taylor's brother, Livingston Taylor, made a song. I'm sorry, I'm a little loopy. I'm also on a lot of Zycam, which Becca just clarified doesn't do anything once you're actually sick. Yeah, I was going to ask. It's supposed to be before you're sick. Yeah. So now I'm just geeked out on Zinc. But Livingston Taylor did a song, an updated version of the song that mentions the movie Wayne's World.

00:11:48 - 00:12:29 | Speaker 2:

I don't even know if it's an updated version. I'm building the airplane as we're flying here, Luke. It's hard the show is. Be safe. But I don't know when this song came out. It seems to me, as somebody who used to work on the WKSU Folk Show and also would help produce the big folk concert that WKSU would put on every, I think, fall, you would get yourself a lot of Livingston Taylor type of people coming through, right? Like people, well, also like John Sebastian of the Love and Spoonful. Like is that kind of level of folks who are coming through?

00:12:29 - 00:12:33 | Speaker 3:

Well, I mean, didn't John Sebastian do the theme song to Welcome Back Cotter?

00:12:34 - 00:12:54 | Speaker 2:

Oh, hell yeah. I mean, I think that's the Love and Spoonful. I love the Love and Spoonful. I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to like put anybody down here, but that was about like kind of the peak of the celebrity. I do think we got, what's his name, Alice's Restaurant came to the festival one year. Oh, Arlo Guthrie. Arlo Guthrie. That's a pretty big one. But I would say that Livingston Taylor.

00:12:54 - 00:12:58 | Speaker 3:

What would you say the selection at Alice's Restaurant is? Is it expansive or is it fairly narrow?

00:12:58 - 00:13:02 | Speaker 2:

You can get one thing and no substitution.

00:13:02 - 00:13:03 | Speaker 3:

They have Zycam.

00:13:03 - 00:13:17 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. In fact, I think it's good that Arlo Guthrie came up because, of course, Woody Guthrie, there's a relation there, right? Is this one of those? Yes. Yeah, it is his son. I was about to say that, and then I feel like I can hear the internet, all the emails.

00:13:17 - 00:13:21 | Speaker 3:

Livingston Taylor of protest music.

00:13:21 - 00:14:10 | Speaker 2:

I sort of feel like, yeah, you had serious music followed by The Sun, who does kind of goofy music in the same style. Livingston Taylor is somewhere between James Taylor and Arlo Guthrie, I would say, kind of as far as his content is concerned. And I'm guessing that the Dollar Bill song probably predates, what movie were they just talking about, Wayne's World 2? Yes, I believe it was Wayne's World 2. My guess is that the song predates that and then he updated it because he's probably going around and everybody wants. I mean, when you're Livingston Taylor, everybody wants to hear the Dollar Bill song, right? Sure. And so as you go through your life, maybe you update it here and there. That is my guess. But honestly, I don't know. I mean, could it be that the Dollar Bill song is less of a classic?

00:14:10 - 00:14:22 | Speaker 3:

I love the idea that he just has to keep adding topical references. like he just works in like stop the steal or like a fast and furious seven

00:14:22 - 00:14:26 | Speaker 2:

fast and furious presents hobs and shaw

00:14:26 - 00:14:50 | Speaker 3:

this is a weird thing furious presents colon hobs and shaw and then there's just like a mention of like um i don't know just like something else extremely of the moment you can you can tell what tour Livingston Taylor was on based on the specific references in the song at that moment

00:14:50 - 00:14:59 | Speaker 2:

yeah I'm looking so Wayne's World 2 came out okay okay listen to this here's what I've learned on wikipedia.org slash wiki slash

00:15:00 - 00:15:15 | Speaker 1:

Livingston underscore Taylor, an album of live concert recordings called Unsolicited Material. And it does look like that's what I was playing that song from. Unsolicited Materials, the live album, was released. That's a good name, by the way, for our media company.

00:15:15 - 00:15:19 | Speaker 2:

If disposable media is taken. I think Unsolicited Material is pretty strong.

00:15:19 - 00:15:25 | Speaker 1:

Be the first people in history to get sued by Livingston Taylor instead of the other way around. I don't know why. They're working into the song.

00:15:25 - 00:15:25 | Unknown:

Yeah.

00:15:25 - 00:15:55 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then a lawyer took that dollar bill and took it away from Andrew. And spent the money to see Amelie. What? The album, this is the live album, according to Wikipedia, quote, captured the warm-hearted fun of Taylor's concerts and ranged from humorous tunes, including Andy Breckman's Railroad Bill and the Dollar Bill song, a medley of songs that should never be played on the banjo and others. Hold on a second. So now I'm trying to figure out maybe Andy Breckman wrote this song.

00:15:55 - 00:16:01 | Speaker 2:

And so is that the same song or does he have two songs that have the word bill in them?

00:16:01 - 00:16:24 | Speaker 1:

Oh, but well, the first one was written by Andy Breckman, it says here, but I'm one railroad bill and the dollar bill song. But that makes me feel like the dollar bill song is also written by. I can't tell if this is just miswritten in Wikipedia or if this is a cover song. What if all of my Livingston Taylor jokes are just crumbling around me? I've let so many people down.

00:16:24 - 00:17:07 | Speaker 2:

There is a not insignificant chance that this will get back to Livingston Taylor. And the clip of that song that you played was actually quite lovely. But it raises the question, how much do you have to love playing music to be Livingston Taylor, the brother of James Taylor, and to go into it? Like, to do it? Because it's a constant conversation. If you look at his Wikipedia page, Livingston Taylor is an American singer, songwriter, and folk musician. born in boston and raised in chapel hill north carolina he's the brother of singer songwriter james taylor it's like the first thing in your bio pretty much you know what i mean like i feel like i would have gone into anything but music if i was james taylor's brother just to avoid the

00:17:07 - 00:17:59 | Speaker 1:

constant references okay wait hold on things are moving too fast here because now things are really coming full circle back into other stuff we've talked about on the show before breaking news situation i do believe so first of all i was trying to solve one thing before that wayne's World 2 reference okay so TVTL breaking news I do see that apparently this album this live album that we're talking about by Livingston Taylor came out in 1994 when did Wayne's World 2 come out according to the internet Wayne's World 2 came out in 1993 that doesn't seem right to me but I guess so the first Wayne's World was 1992 they didn't uh wait around and then on a year later they released wayne's world 2 in 1993 so that means this song could truly be the original version referencing that also not written this is like yesterday when i said i think of the tampa

00:17:59 - 00:18:15 | Speaker 2:

bay lightning as being nouveau yeah it's like it's very possible like you're saying that livington taylor was writing this song so long ago that wayne's world 2 was out but that just feels to me like a very current reference even though it's 25 years old here's where things get even

00:18:15 - 00:18:48 | Speaker 1:

less interesting this andrew breckman person who wrote the song originally apparently has come up on the show a lot because he's the guy who was a radio personality on wfmu i'm almost wondering if he was one of the founders of wfmu i think i'm wrong about that but he's also the one who um was the producer of the tv show monk haven't we talked about that before and isn't andy breckman the same guy who um got into i think you're thinking of um what's his name uh tom tom tomorrow

00:18:48 - 00:18:58 | Speaker 2:

no i just i interviewed him on live wire the guy who's the host of the best show that was the guy who worked on monk did another person from wfmu also work on monk the andrew ross breckman is the

00:18:58 - 00:19:13 | Speaker 1:

creator and executive producer of the emmy award-winning television series monk on the usa network i do think that i'm blanking on tom's last name too and i know we have a lot of wfmu heads like that's a whole cult in and of itself um god if i was in my regular studio down the hall

00:19:13 - 00:19:27 | Speaker 2:

i have his book um sitting on my shelf i would be able to tell you uh the name of that person but i can't from in here and also i'm on sharpling is his name tom sharpling um thank you sharpling

00:19:27 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 1:

but i do think it all comes back to this um to this folk world so we have livingston taylor singing a dollar bill song written by andrew breckman of wfmu and monk but also we talked about breckman years ago because he's the one who got into the big fight and he publicly or like he kind of publicly shamed another folk celebrity um and talked about the terrible experience he had with him and what a jerk he is do you remember this at all i'm my head i'm holding my fingers

00:19:59 - 00:20:29 | Unknown:

Thank you.

00:20:00 - 00:20:14 | Speaker 1:

into my head. My nails are clawing at my forehead right now because this was a big story on TBTL. This guy had written like an expose about not the guy who wrote American Pie. It's not him.

00:20:14 - 00:20:28 | Speaker 2:

It's not Chapin. Don McClain. Oh, Don McClain. It was McClain. Don McClain. What's that? Didn't he like open for Don McClain and he had just stories of Don McClain's just absolute deep

00:20:28 - 00:20:40 | Speaker 1:

sort of rudeness to everyone yes i think we made this full circle i think it was just painful painful but yeah there's a whole thing on wfmu called andy versus don mclean and so that is so

00:20:40 - 00:21:14 | Speaker 2:

it's all about the world and that that that you know sort of piece of writing from andy breckman it really shaped my view of don mclean me too like every every time i see don mclean don mclean mentioned also i think don mcclain is also just kind of a jerk at least based on you know based on things i've heard anytime i see him referenced my first thought is like negative and it's probably largely due to that piece by andy breckman by the way um sharpling also worked on monk he wasn't the

00:21:14 - 00:21:24 | Speaker 1:

the founder breckman was but um but sharpling was a writer he was the first writer apparently hired by a monk so and i'm sure there was that wfmu connection there which is why i didn't realize

00:21:24 - 00:22:13 | Speaker 2:

I didn't put it all together. I knew he had worked on Monk, but I didn't realize that there was an additional WFMU connection. Now, I will tell you this. Livingston Taylor, Andrew, is not the only of James Taylor's siblings who likes to play in the music space, as it were. Their other siblings include, he's the brother of singer-songwriter James Taylor, singer-songwriter Kate Taylor, singer Alex Taylor, and then innkeeper and singer Hugh Taylor. Innkeeper and singer. Innkeeper. I want to be an innkeeper. I promise you. I mean, I promise you Hugh Taylor updated this Wikipedia page to clarify that he's also an innkeeper and singer.

00:22:13 - 00:22:17 | Speaker 1:

Do you think that it originally just said innkeeper, but he wanted to put the singer in there or vice versa?

00:22:17 - 00:22:21 | Speaker 2:

I think it said singer, and he wanted to point out that he's also an innkeeper. Really?

00:22:21 - 00:22:32 | Speaker 1:

You think that that's what he was? I think that he looked he was just listed as an innkeeper and he looked around at all of his brethren and sister in and saw that they're all singers. He's like, I want that singer tag, too.

00:22:33 - 00:23:13 | Speaker 2:

I'm looking at again. It's I don't want to I don't want to seem like I'm being in any way dismissive because, again, the clip of that song that I heard, it was quite lovely. And were there not a James Taylor, maybe we'd all be talking about Livingston Taylor all the time. But I'm just looking at all of this promotional stuff. Live, 50 Years of Livingston Taylor, which so he has been doing this. That's like a record cover. He has been out doing this for 50 years. I mean, this is a person who clearly loves making music and has worked through the fact that his brother, James Taylor, is one of the most famous. Would you call James Taylor a folk singer?

00:23:13 - 00:23:19 | Speaker 1:

I think so. Yeah. I mean, I guess he's the ultimate like singer songwriter. Right. When you don't want to use the F word.

00:23:21 - 00:23:22 | Speaker 2:

Wait, the F word folk.

00:23:22 - 00:24:39 | Speaker 1:

oh um i guess so yeah do you have a i should be careful here yeah i should be careful here but somebody for whom we work on a departmental meeting yesterday was giving a sort of tortured analogy and this is coming from me like i hear it okay i know but like was giving a somewhat tortured analogy and then said i don't want to use the s word and then kept moving and i don't think they were talking about shit or any swear word i don't know what the s word is like i don't i i think maybe this person is in so many meetings that maybe there's some corporate talk that they were trying to avoid or something but they said i don't want to use the s word and then just kept moving on and i was just like what you give me more than that i don't know what the s word is man what's your best guess sex sexy times silver surfer i think they meant silver oh that's another good full circle let's get off of this more advice that we give people who are sick can i get you some saltines luke some ginger ale yes and a saltine and some saltines i truly do believe the best thing though is just to sleep as much as humanly possible like it i've been to

00:24:39 - 00:25:34 | Speaker 2:

sleep for about 50 of this show so far so yeah i'm way ahead of you yeah uh wasn't it i think that was one of the we didn't have a lot of soda pop in our house growing up um but i i have this memory that like if you you know if you got the flu or something you might be able to score some um canada dry ginger ale or something ginger ale was a big part of the road to recovery yep and in the nurse's office i think they were trying to make you burp maybe like everything was just like oh you have like the effervescence you have an upset tummy right so what are we going to do we're going to give you some crackers and some and something to make you burp i remember and maybe this one of the reasons i'm not a huge fan of jello now like i'll eat it but like i just don't really like jello i think is i always associate jello with being sick you know and thanksgiving my grandma would make this layered rainbow jello with um thin white lines if i assume some sort of cream cheese frosting between that i ate because i didn't

00:25:34 - 00:25:47 | Speaker 1:

know it was cream cheese ah uh becca made some lime jello uh for the thanksgiving get together that was based on i think her grandmother's recipe and i gotta say it was good like did it

00:25:47 - 00:25:55 | Speaker 2:

i was just having a little bit i gotta say i don't like eating jello and then there's like people infuse it with fruit or whatever i can't handle it didn't have it i don't think it had

00:25:55 - 00:26:24 | Speaker 1:

anything like that or any kind of like you know walnut or any it feels to me like a something solid should not be suspended yeah in the in the amber that is a jello mold yeah or a thing of jello um so it turns out everybody in james taylor's family uh plays music i wonder if they just get together and do like family sing-alongs and stuff oh i guarantee it i guarantee you do not want to

00:26:24 - 00:27:19 | Speaker 2:

go to a party at their house i mean maybe you do like i'm such a dick like some people that would be like awesome that would be d word andrew sorry i'm being an s word um i um i but for me and again no joke like for almost all of my college career i was like kind of working around and then also kind of befriending folkies that i would work with on this show and for me i was just excited to be part of public radio but it wasn't really my scene but you get sucked into that scene right and it was like and yeah i was making strides in my budding career and also i like these people but like god damn i remember going to some party in some field like behind the the folk show hosts house very beautiful part of ohio out in the middle of nowhere and it was like a huge fire and then the pickin' started. And I was just like, I am not the pickin' type.

00:27:22 - 00:27:30 | Speaker 1:

It also sounds like Livingston plays banjo. Yeah, I saw that. It wasn't one of the songs, like, songs you should never record on the banjo?

00:27:30 - 00:27:56 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, or it was a medley, I believe. I want to look at, so has anybody Googled, and when I say anybody, I mean you. Out of all of this, I'm most interested in Hugh Taylor, the innkeeper. the innkeeper where is his inn can i go to the inn oh here we go i found an article about them from 2018 hugh and gene taylor anchors of the outermost inn this is from vineyard gazette

00:27:56 - 00:28:24 | Speaker 1:

oh oh my gosh martha's vineyard seriously i saw a woman reading the vineyard gazette the vineyard gazette i can't say that word sorry i'm on a lot of xycam i saw a woman reading the vineyard gazette on the airplane the other day it is a massive newspaper and i assume it's martha's vineyard related yeah how is it so big or is it only a monthly it was comically large it was like two times as large as this woman who was reading the vineyard gazette i am looking at this article

00:28:24 - 00:28:43 | Speaker 2:

in the vineyard gazette from 2018 about a hue and gene taylor running the outermost in that must be the name of it and i'm telling you there's a big photo of hue taylor looking at the window he is the spitting image of livingston taylor i'm not kidding i love it that's the flex that's the

00:28:43 - 00:28:49 | Speaker 1:

flex you meet you you rent a room at hugh taylor's outermost inn and then you say are you the

00:28:49 - 00:29:06 | Speaker 2:

brother of livingston taylor well no because again i feel like the joke is always asking the more famous person about the less famous one so i the new thing is if i meet james taylor i ask if he's livingston taylor's brother and get excited about that if i meet livingston taylor i say are

00:29:06 - 00:29:13 | Speaker 1:

you gene taylor's brother-in-law right and what if you ask livingston taylor if he's innkeeper

00:29:13 - 00:29:19 | Speaker 2:

hugh taylor's brother right and gene is hugh's uh wife i believe so that's why i thought even

00:29:19 - 00:29:32 | Speaker 1:

maybe making it even does she play music well i assume i mean for some reason i imagine the taylor's getting together and it's very a mighty wind yes exactly exactly a lot of strumming a lot

00:29:32 - 00:30:29 | Speaker 2:

to pick and and very calming music like their voices are good like i'm definitely like i'm definitely i feel now i sort of feel bad like the the further down i go the more i'm just like these are just real people um and i'm being mean to them and i don't mean to be mean like i do think that both the the visuals and the sounds coming from the taylor family are calming there is calming as as a little sand garden that you can rake on your desk you know what i mean this is We'll be right back.

00:30:00 - 00:30:04 | Speaker 1:

what the tailors bring kill for one of those the irony of killing someone so you could get a zen

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sand garden is not lost on me i would violently kill someone i would do that video game move

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i would throttle someone look into their eyes as the life let that left them so that i could then rake sand into a pattern and feel calm i would do that mortal combat thing that i used to see

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my friend sean do at the pizza hut where you pull the spine out of the opposing player i think that's in order to get a zen sand thing yes am i right i'm also on this do you know yes i do i do i do

00:30:35 - 00:31:09 | Speaker 1:

remember that as a even as a not um video game person yeah i'm looking at this same article i andrew i know we need to move on i cannot overstate how physically large the vineyard gazette is it really it was shocking first of all someone was reading an old an actual newspaper on the airplane uh so that was just kind of cool to see but it was so large that i was like what what is this like is this a prop from a movie uh or something or from a play and then i i noted that it was called the vineyard gazette that's so weird that that would come back up on the show

00:31:09 - 00:31:54 | Speaker 2:

that is pretty amazing i think do you think that more people read physical newspapers on a plane than anywhere else because i mean i know that they offer wi-fi and airplanes now but i i like having a newspaper on an airplane because i think i don't have to drain my phone battery again this is this is so like 2003 mentality because most planes now have phone chargers on them and what are you know outlets or what have you but like i just i do think that that's sort of a move for me you go to the uh what's the famous newspaper stand in airports i can't believe i can't think of it you go to hudson news you buy yourself the local newspaper if you're if you're leaving seattle you get yourself a seattle times and you fold that thing up into quarters and eighths on the airplane and you're in your read away it's a very comforting i feel like i don't see that

00:31:54 - 00:32:42 | Speaker 1:

happening very often anymore but it used to be you know 20 years ago it was the default setting of business people you know like you'd you'd see that person they'd be reading doing exactly what you're describing like reading the paper front to back folding it and uh you know who did that once i think to the consternation it might have been to the consternation of jen uh at cairo was the attorney barry sheck from the innocence project yeah what about him this is a show where we will besmirch both livingston taylor and barry sheck and that's really the range that we bring to the show um so he was it was like i think it was ross and burbank era but i feel like for some reason jen might have been filling in as producer did that ever happen to

00:32:42 - 00:33:06 | Speaker 2:

your to your memory i don't remember her filling in as producer i remember her filling in as host i think that we did some ross and burbanks where it was you and jen and it was sort of fun all those midday you know it's morning mid-morning right so we didn't do a tbtl but i remember producing the two of you on ross and burbank i don't remember her filling in for me that seems like a weird that sounds like a weird thing but it could have happened i just my i remember that

00:33:06 - 00:33:46 | Speaker 1:

she was was sort of put off by the fact that basically barry sheck didn't make any kind of small talk with anyone during the commercials during like you know when we were playing like state roofing ads or something he sat there just reading the wall street journal oh i like quietly and like not making any kind of like i said small talk just reading the paper folding it turning to the next page it was and then and then like you know the rejoin would come on and then he would put the paper down and then he would say some stuff uh in relation to our question and then we'd go to commercial and then he would pick the newspaper back up and just continue reading it

00:33:46 - 00:34:35 | Speaker 2:

it bothers me that there's no because i remember this has come up on the show before i can't say for sure that i was producing when barry sheck was on so maybe you know maybe that's part of the mystery here but i feel like we were doing these shows not all that long ago but there's just like no record of what we did online anymore you know and it seems that way barry shack i tried ross and burbank i mean we we did so many different versions of shows over there there's a chance that it's not as ross and burbank but i feel like i feel like this was the type of interview that the people you know the nerds out in the newsroom would have taken your interview isolated it posted it to my northwest.com or whatever and turned it into a story but why are these things no longer available online and why did i call my former colleagues nerds i meant that in in the most um loving way

00:34:35 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 1:

loving way possible yeah yeah i mean i guess it's probably the case that the bonneville broadcasting company which is ultimately owned by the mormon church has decided that it is not worth spending the money on server space to preserve the gems that were the ross and burbank episodes i mean

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it does make

00:35:00 - 00:35:28 | Speaker 1:

sense i think that you and i one of the reasons we i think sort of enjoyed that format of live radio was well sort of the disposable quality of it you know the fact that i mean you and i are doing these as podcasts so they're naturally preserved and and you know available on demand whenever but there's something about sports radio am radio just talk radio that it isn't as well it isn't as preserved and there's something nice about that although there's something sinister about that

00:35:28 - 00:35:41 | Speaker 2:

as well on the media has a spinoff podcast i just listened to i listened to both episodes i was literally going to bring yes that phil boyce the pd of salem media talking about this exact topic

00:35:41 - 00:36:22 | Speaker 1:

thank you for the remembering the names i would have forgotten his name and even though it's about salem media what is the name of this spinoff podcast you know it's a limited series divided dial the divided dial and it's a six-part series that i believe is you know going deep into the world of like kind of christian radio and its origins and then its outsized impact on politics and conservative politics and um how those worlds intermingle and just the outsized power it has and that is one thing that that was the head of salem media who was saying that like don't if you have any kind of controversial opinions that you want to throw out there like don't tweet it don't put it on instagram just put it on the radio like nobody's going to be and then he said all that

00:36:22 - 00:36:33 | Speaker 2:

Because maybe people will miss it, which I thought was the weirdest thing because it's like you're saying something that you're hoping people don't notice you saying. It was just an odd framing.

00:36:33 - 00:36:50 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly. And it's kind of like the people who are going to cause trouble for you won't hear it. But all the red meat for the people that you're broadcasting to will love whatever this controversial thing is that you're burying in a live radio segment somewhere. But we've probably gone on.

00:36:50 - 00:37:46 | Speaker 2:

to that i was thinking as i was um uh driving from uh from seattle down to uh portland i was thinking like man if i had no i mean i did host a conservative like a saturday conservative talk radio show and i produced you know we weren't a salem station but i you know i produced conservative talk radio uh but i was just thinking gosh if i had no morals i really i think i could have made a lot of money in conservative talk radio i feel like the bar is so low when you're listening to those clips of like seb gorka and charlie kirk and ben shapiro and it's like i find them to all be very very bad broadcasters but they're throwing out this red meat that works for their listeners it just seems like a really easy way to make a shitload sorry i said the s word it's an easy way to make a saltine load of money because you're just shooting fish

00:37:46 - 00:37:58 | Speaker 1:

in a barrel yeah it's by the way I want to give a shout out to Katie Thornton I don't know if you did that already but I had to look I didn't but Katie Thornton is the journalist behind the series which I'm really enjoying so far sounds like we're both two episodes in

00:37:58 - 00:38:47 | Speaker 2:

I think there's only two that have been released and I think it might be a five part series or something that's what excuse me that's what Brooke Gladstone told me oh I thought it was a six part series and by Brooke Gladstone telling me I mean she said it on the before the episode um the the second episode but um yeah it's it's it's interesting i didn't i didn't realize the sort of backstory on salem because you know i i know i know that world fairly well which is why i wanted to listen to it because i was i was just curious how many of the the folks that were referenced in it were going to be people that i had like you know gotten on an isdn line to talk to michael medved or something at one point although it's interesting because we you know we bring up michael medved on this show sort of occasionally and he was he's cited in the in the series as being one of the people who may have been run out of salem uh broadcasting because of

00:38:47 - 00:39:16 | Speaker 1:

being anti-trump which is true i mean we were there i remember i mean it wasn't something that he talked about on the radio that the background on that but yeah he was he was uninvited from his uh his normal slot on salem radio is uh what's what i'm looking for his um uh when you're on a whole bunch of stations at once sorry i'm syndicator his syndicator yeah um he lost it It was also behind the scenes. Everybody said it was because he was not because he wouldn't get behind Trump. And that was the way the machine was moving at that point.

00:39:17 - 00:40:05 | Speaker 2:

It's also an interesting business model, because one of the things that was pointed out in this in this series by Katie Thornburg is that Salem doesn't need advertising the way that most, you know, radio networks need advertising. because so much of their income is from basically infomercials pay to play like somebody wants to have a show they pay some money they get to do their show on the weekend or whatever it is and so they were able to you know have a they're on in new york city and they don't have that many listeners but they can continue to do it because they're not really they're playing to a niche audience and i thought boy it's exactly like tbtl like somehow we're able to do this for a living playing to a very small group of people because we have this unique sort of business

00:40:05 - 00:40:40 | Speaker 1:

arrangement with our listeners. Although like I'm sort of, you know, Vives and I, I think I've told you this, we're tempted to like pay to play on a local station to do like to take after these messages, like the advertising rates. I mean, I think I can just say this, like we're looking at the advertising rates on Kixi Radio, which has been, you know, supplanting a lot of the music as cool now as it was then with you know programming that people pay to place there and like these and i are kind of like we could probably afford that like to what end i don't know but just the idea of our podcast being on the radio sounds super fun to me now we know somebody

00:40:40 - 00:41:18 | Speaker 2:

who works there yeah and i believe act do they does that person our friend do they actually sell the time as well like is that one of their yeah parts of their job i believe so yep their clients yep so that's why we were having those conversations could they um hook you up like is there like did were any numbers floated about how much it would actually cost you yes and it was within the realm of possibility oh really yes okay i know we talked about this before but yes i because sometimes those some of those i was shocked like with cairo i was shocked at how much some folks were actually paying to be on cairo like it was in the tens of thousands of dollars and i was like

00:41:18 - 00:41:29 | Speaker 1:

my goodness yeah but without um dick clark's rock roll and remember as a lead in i believe some of the value of these slots have gone down it used to be certainly before that stops have you considered

00:41:29 - 00:41:35 | Speaker 2:

um maybe branching after these messages out out into also like maybe elder law

00:41:35 - 00:41:42 | Speaker 1:

yeah i have in fact it started as an elder law podcast in fact then sort of seeped towards

00:41:42 - 00:41:53 | Speaker 2:

talking about commercials too much sure no that actually makes sense that's it was just the content drove you more towards advertising but it started out that's a 6 a.m saturday elder law

00:41:53 - 00:42:13 | Speaker 1:

show used to be called elder these messages okay that's a good show oh golly okay we should take a break how long are we today should not have been a we're going 40 minutes before the first break kind of day i'm sorry i'm i'm really i'm not for you right now yeah um uh i apologize to

00:42:13 - 00:42:25 | Speaker 2:

the listeners this is a very intimate program today like i really am just like lying lying in bed holding this i'm using a different microphone as well i'm using an re50 today does it sound

00:42:25 - 00:42:33 | Speaker 1:

different to you yeah a little bit you can tell it's a handheld but i mean you know it doesn't sound bad at all it just has that sound to it right i know there's a bit of handling noise but

00:42:33 - 00:42:57 | Speaker 2:

it's it's usually i use a sure sm7b which sits on a stand and there's a certain kind of like i have to you know make sure i'm close to it etc i am in full repose right now with just like resting this re 50 on my chin as i talk to you i could do like i could do four hours of the show this way because it's a very it's a really low impact on my life right now can you can you turn

00:42:57 - 00:43:05 | Speaker 1:

on your side and do the costanza isn't there like a big i'm wearing a shirt andrew i get dressed for

00:43:05 - 00:43:53 | Speaker 2:

this program i am in sweats though so i'm i'm i'm pretty cash this morning anyway okay uh quick break and then uh we will be back with more a tbtl on this weird friday stay with us hey let's thank some daily donors who are making tbtl possible on this friday even a show where I am lying in bed talking in a sultry way into this microphone these people love TBTL so much they will even sponsor this kind of programming which is amazing talking about Zachary Hunter out there in Austin, Texas hey

00:43:53 - 00:44:07 | Speaker 1:

wait why would I do this is Zachary the one who owns and runs the front page, the bar down in Austin or is it another listener? I think I might be confusing my Austin 10s. I'm sorry.

00:44:08 - 00:44:51 | Speaker 2:

I think you are. I think that, yeah, that is a different, if I weren't on so much Zycam, I would be able to call to mind the name of that listener who has the front page in Austin. I don't think it's Zachary. But we should also support that too, though. Absolutely. We support whatever, we stan whatever Zachary is doing. I don't know why this came into my mind, but just when I heard the wheels turning in your head, and then I was like, where did you go? It reminded me of a time when... You remember my friend Skyler in Minnesota. We had great times together. My buddies Andy and Skyler, we went out with the Stubot. I almost fought a guy defending the Stubot's honor, which, side note, didn't need to happen.

00:44:51 - 00:45:00 | Speaker 1:

You almost fought a guy defending my honor. He was friends with Stubot, but he ate a fry off of my plate, which I didn't have a problem with. Yes, thank you. It was such a big deal to me, I forgot whose honor.

00:45:00 - 00:45:49 | Speaker 2:

honor i was defending it was such an important moment but um uh i remember sky uh one time uh you know um how do i say this delicately uh you know spent some time in the company of a of a of a person of a woman that he had met i believe at a party maybe even at my house and then they had they had uh you know had a had an evening together and in the morning he did that thing where you kind of like fall asleep a little bit and you kind of laugh in your sleep. And the person, the woman that he had spent the evening with said, you know, what's happening or something? And he said, oh, I was just having a dream. And she said, can I go there with you? And the way he described it was

00:45:49 - 00:45:53 | Speaker 1:

that was the end of any sort of sexual attraction feeling.

00:45:54 - 00:45:57 | Speaker 2:

Like it could never be because of this person saying,

00:45:57 - 00:47:05 | Speaker 1:

can i go there with you that i dated a woman in college for like a month that was sort of my deal um and but i very i've dated very very few people in my life but i i was with this one woman for a month and she was sort of i don't know if intense is the right word but like intense in that way where like i remember when things were in the long arc of our one month relationship As I was trying to maybe extract myself from the situation or whatever, she was asking me to read pages of her journal. She was processing what we were going through, and she was writing about it in her journal. But then she was asking me to read her journal in front of her to express her feelings. And she was a little bit of that. So she was reading her journal to you alone? No, she wanted me to read her journal while she was there. Whoa! Yeah. Wow. Like an entry that was specifically about this situation or whatever. She wanted you to read it out loud. I think probably just to read it in her presence and so that we could then talk about it. I don't think she wanted me to perform it. I think she just wanted me to read it because she can quietly read it while she observed you reading it.

00:47:05 - 00:47:09 | Speaker 2:

So you'd be able to kind of hear or you'd understand where she was coming.

00:47:09 - 00:47:35 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, because, you know, she had a lot of things she wanted to say, but maybe she. But it was just like something about specifically writing it in the journal and then asking me to read that. So I don't remember if I if I read it or not, but kind of in a similar situation like that. sort of behavior sort of was what was potentially driving my heart away you know what i mean it was like that kind of like where'd you go it's a lot type of yeah talk right can i go there with you

00:47:35 - 00:48:05 | Speaker 2:

zachary hunter went there with us because he just heard that as to the rest of the listeners thanks zachary also thanks to katherine jory of huntley montana nice wonder if katherine i said that like i know about a different huntly which i don't so i don't know um i don't know why i i created that drama for uh katherine thank you would you go with jor or jory j-o-r-e i think

00:48:05 - 00:48:19 | Speaker 1:

i would go with jorah no um i think i would go with i don't i don't know i would just ask if i had the opportunity i would just ask but probably jor uh thanks katherine thanks also to lynn schneider

00:48:19 - 00:48:51 | Speaker 2:

down there in olympia washington i wonder if i got water i i stopped for gas in olympia washington i wonder if that's where i picked up whatever my illness is why would i blame lynn wonderful supportive lynn schneider of olympia washington why would i besmirch the state capital the queen city of washington and say maybe that's where i got sick i probably got sick at that super eight yeah yeah you know um anyway thank you lynn also thanks to maya swans of Seattle Washington

00:48:51 - 00:48:57 | Speaker 1:

I've been to Seattle that's a city I can tell you a story yeah actually probably

00:48:57 - 00:49:02 | Speaker 2:

thanks also to Margaret Ainsley in Swarthmore

00:49:02 - 00:49:09 | Speaker 1:

this is Maggie Maggie's always writing in and calling in it's always good to hear from Maggie

00:49:09 - 00:49:16 | Speaker 2:

thank you Maggie thanks also to Jerome Bergquist who's out there in Richfield Minnesota

00:49:16 - 00:49:20 | Speaker 1:

Ah, not Richfield, Ohio, where the Coliseum used to be, where the Cavs would play.

00:49:20 - 00:49:22 | Speaker 2:

There's a Richfield, Ohio, huh?

00:49:22 - 00:49:32 | Speaker 1:

Isn't that where the Cavs used to play? Richfield, Ohio? I hope I'm right about that. At the Gund Center? I think the Gund was when they moved it back to Cleveland. Richfield. Oh, okay.

00:49:32 - 00:49:39 | Speaker 2:

So they were playing like it was one of those things where they were sort of like the way that the Detroit Pistons played in Auburn Hills.

00:49:39 - 00:49:59 | Speaker 1:

I didn't know that, but it sounds about right. Let's see here. The Richfield Coliseum, known as the Coliseum at Richfield. Okay, everybody calmed down. It was an indoor arena located in Richfield Township between Cleveland and Akron. It opened as a replacement for the Cleveland Arena in 1974. Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is where the Cavs played.

00:50:00 - 00:50:10 | Speaker 2:

I will be in Ohio next week, by the way. I'm going to be passing through Columbus, Ohio. Do you have any recommendations, things I must do when visiting Columbus?

00:50:11 - 00:50:18 | Speaker 1:

Don't wear a Michigan Wolverines shirt because I feel like they're a little sore right now. That's the only advice I have.

00:50:18 - 00:51:06 | Speaker 2:

Oh, right. Yes, the Ohio State University. They're mad because they lost to Michigan. Two years in a row. Yeah, I will say this. We have a lot of listeners, I think, who went to the Ohio State University. Great university, by the way, and really good sports teams. But I do have a certain delight in them losing for some reason. I feel like, again, why am I using the segment where we thank our wonderful supporters? Why am I going negative? But I'm thinking of one specific person who you and I both know who went to the Ohio State University. i feel like it's a big part of people's personality if they went to the ohio state university i literally don't know who you're talking about i'll whisper it okay this is somebody that

00:51:06 - 00:51:10 | Speaker 1:

that you knew before me and it's somebody from around here or this is i think we probably knew

00:51:10 - 00:51:25 | Speaker 2:

this person at about the same time oh interesting through different routes okay although it's this is completely belying my point because if i'm saying it's a big part of someone's personality and you have no idea who I'm talking about. It proves it's not that big a part of this person's personality.

00:51:25 - 00:52:16 | Speaker 1:

I also don't pay a lot of attention. But, yeah, you know, I feel sort of bad rooting against Ohio State, too. It makes no sense. I don't care about college football. And, like, I just know a bunch of people. Like, if my family roots for anybody, my family roots for Ohio State. We didn't grow up caring about anything like that. But I know my dad and, like, my, I guess he'd be my stepbrother-in-law, like, to bro down and watch some Ohio State games. Like, I don't know why I'd want them to be unhappy. I don't. But, like, I don't know. Wasn't Ohio State, like, just dominant for so long? I'm no fan of Jim Harbaugh over at Michigan. In fact, like, from his time in San Francisco and his arrival of the Seahawks, I actually dislike him quite a bit. So I don't know why I was sort of happy to hear. Maybe it's the Urban Meyer effect. I know Urban Meyer is no longer with Ohio State. But just, like, I don't know. Everybody's gross. Why are we watching football?

00:52:17 - 00:53:06 | Speaker 2:

Jim Trestle. Who's Trestle? I think he would always wear a red sweater vest, I believe, when coaching The Ohio State University. You know what has really humanized Jim Harbaugh for me? For some reason, I see his daughter on TikTok just videotaping him when they're on family vacations. And he has the most dad energy of anyone who's ever dadded. Like he wants to be at the airport four hours early. he'll be doing like calisthenics in the hallway of the hotel room he's just has the absolute worst fashion sense of any wearing one of those hats that I got one this summer when I was working at the house that's kind of a big wide brimmed hat with the like string

00:53:06 - 00:53:08 | Speaker 1:

oh you do have one of those now

00:53:08 - 00:53:36 | Speaker 2:

yes I do and it looks terrible I was like I was really vibing with I bought it at Home Depot and I was really vibing with this hat and then becca came to check out the the you know what was going on at the house and i was wearing the hat and i said what do you think of this hat because i was really considering having it be a hat that i just wore out in the world and she went well it's um it's a look and then i actually saw my reflection i was like oh god no never that looks terrible on me

00:53:36 - 00:53:50 | Speaker 1:

okay i can't i don't want to give it away now but i need you when the newsletter goes out later today to please watch the hey dummies i specifically didn't want you to watch it because there was something i was going to try to steal from you but um and that is revealed in there

00:53:50 - 00:53:56 | Speaker 2:

stop the steal and yes i learned that in that livingston taylor song i recently listened to

00:53:56 - 00:54:21 | Speaker 1:

but there's some hat content and um and i can't talk about it now otherwise i'll totally ruin the entire video but people should sign up for the newsletter if they haven't already seen it at tbtl.net um and then the video will go out later today with the hey dummies in there um and there is some hat related content some controversial related content but it sounds like maybe with the opportunity that you just gave me we can smooth things over in this fight that you didn't

00:54:21 - 00:54:38 | Speaker 2:

even know you and i were having okay wow that is a hell of a promo yeah i mean honestly now i am very intrigued i am definitely going to check out the newsletter this week so anyway thank you to all of our donors uh for keeping tbtl going we really appreciate you

00:54:40 - 00:54:59 | Speaker 1:

hello and welcome to top story how far into the show are we at this point we are an hour and four into the show now here's the deal let me just take off my bad podcast host hat and put on my bad and put on your ass producer

00:55:00 - 00:55:14 | Speaker 2:

Masking Barbara Streisand in Prince of Tides pants If you are feeling fatigued We've gone over an hour now We could skip Music for Your Weekend Which I think we did last week as well But we could just make this the final segment If you wanted to

00:55:14 - 00:55:44 | Speaker 1:

You know, I feel bad Because I feel like we're really It's one of those things Where once you sort of like crack the seal Once we crack the seal on not doing Music for Your Weekend Now it's like Are we ever going to go back to doing it? But maybe that wouldn't be the worst because I am starting to kind of flag a little bit here. And I do really want to tell you that Drew Brees is OK, Andrew. Yeah, tell me about this. Did you see this? Did you see this piece? This will be popping up in your Levitard feed, I'm sure.

00:55:44 - 00:56:11 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I saw this floating around and I'm pretty. You know who I saw? Oh, Luke, I'm going to do it again. I'm going to need you to bail me out. Who is the woman on Twitter? I know you're no longer on Twitter, but I still remember it. Do you remember Twitter? like you would have a character limit do you know what i'm talking about yeah it's so you could do a background that would like auto play a song right he sort of my space i think you're thinking of my space this was like a it was like a blog but it was more of a micro blog okay does any of

00:56:11 - 00:56:15 | Speaker 1:

this ring a bell okay anyway no vaguely just just throw it at me and i'll see if i can remember

00:56:15 - 00:56:46 | Speaker 2:

there was a comedian who blew up i think she was a comedian i mean she's a sports commentator of some sort but also like a kind of a ticky-tocky doing like a cooper cup impression exactly and she would just like I think she would play the original audio of somebody or the audio and video of somebody and then she would do her impression of it or does she maybe lip sync over top I don't recall I know that she did one today related to this story her hair is all frizzed out and huge as if she had just been electrocuted and she's doing a Drew Brees impression I cannot think of

00:56:46 - 00:56:56 | Speaker 1:

her name it's driving me bananas I don't actually know that person's name but I believe she is the host of like the nfl network's you know sort of sunday programming or something i'm gonna see

00:56:56 - 00:57:06 | Speaker 2:

if i can find her yeah she almost is like kind of in that school of like the katie nolans of the world who do very much commentary but are also hilarious and entertaining yes exactly the mina

00:57:06 - 00:57:13 | Speaker 1:

kimes of the world although lena's a little bit more of a yeah more of a uh she's like a real

00:57:13 - 00:57:19 | Speaker 2:

no she gets really into the the numbers and stuff right yeah she's a quant yeah she's a real like

00:57:19 - 00:59:59 | Speaker 1:

data geek yeah it comes to the uh the the the i don't know if sabermetrics applies to football or only baseball but anyway drew breeze says this is from bleacher report.com drew breeze says he's good and wasn't struck by lightning after all now he is the uh the the you know the the person the celebrity associated with i'm not even going to actually say the name of the betting website because i feel like we're just giving them what they want yeah but a betting website um hired him to do their ads and i will give them credit like it's actually a fairly clever i'm going to play this i don't know i'm playing it off of um you know their twitter account um so i don't know how this the audio is going to sound but it's actually a fairly clever shot it is i think this company by the way is based in like venezuela but which well anyway i'm not gonna opine on whether or not i would be doing my sports betting with a venezuelan company i guess you know i mean bolsonaro is wait is he brazil or venezuela i'm on a lot of zycam right now i'm sorry um anyway so this is uh the shot is of a monitor so it's basically it looks like they're on a commercial shoot with drew breeze but somebody's just on their phone videotaping the monitor right the thing where like the director looks at to see what the shot looks like and it's pretty clever they're kind of setting like they're they're putting a lavalier mic on drew breeze they're kind of futzing with him a little bit uh it's very shaky handheld camera And then all of a sudden, sorry, if that was a little loud, and then there's a lightning strike and then the camera goes, goes off. It is. It's very sort of what was the movie where it was just from the perspective of the phone and was in the person's face was a horror film. The red violin. Yes, exactly. It's very red violin. it's very livingston taylor really it's a dollar bill no um you know uh the um the the horror movie that made so much money the blair witch blair it is blair which that's what you're thinking okay yeah yeah it's kind of got a blair witch project vibe to it and it's now been looked at like four and a half million times now drew breeze has told espn that he is doing fine that he was not in fact struck by lightning this is one of these things that's obviously created to make us think that Drew Brees was struck by lightning so as to get attention.

01:00:00 - 01:00:34 | Speaker 3:

for this sports betting website and it's 100% working the problem is it's it's a little too real like I don't know I mean I guess I would be dragging them if they if they'd like you know if they winked too much or if they somehow indicated that this wasn't real because that's what the lawyers would say the lawyers would be like well you can't just make everyone think Drew Brees got struck by lightning that's just lying and then the lawyers would be like you have to put a disclaimer that says this is an ad and then I would say that's annoying of the lawyers but now i kind of wish that they would have said it was an ad it's it's it's it's pretty it's pretty

01:00:34 - 01:00:48 | Speaker 2:

realistic looking i guess is my point yeah and and then they the the sportsbook place releases another tweet i know you have this in front of you luke i'll read it we are aware of the media coverage regarding the our brand ambassador drew breeze first of all the word brand ambassador

01:00:48 - 01:01:07 | Speaker 3:

needs to be struck from the english language unless somebody wants to offer me some money to be one in which case i would i'm a brand ambassador for skylight you are a brand ambassador for skylight uh i am we got a we got an email from someone who we know who's like all right what's the promo code i'm buying this skylight frame for people i like your spots for that i

01:01:07 - 01:02:21 | Speaker 2:

did not read the copy because you were doing the ads and when i heard this is now just we're now just doing an ad for skylight honestly when i heard that you can share the email address so this is a digital picture frame we're doing ads for now and like you can have it set up in your house but then you can just tell i'm going to say your brother-in-law the email address to use if he wants to like send something from across the country to appear in your frame and you can be i say brother-in-law because my brother-in-law heard your spot for that luke and said please give me the email address for your skylight digital frame so i can harass you on thanksgiving and i said you are the last person who will be receiving that information my friend um but to go back to this story for a second i mean yeah this is one of those things that pisses me off i mean it's a total they're just lying it's it's just a total publicity stunt they released this serious sounding thing like we're in communication with drew breeze's team this is the actual company that he's doing the the ad for whatever at this stage we won't be making any further comment and then it's like oh then there's a goofy picture of him looking like he was zapped and tired and then it's like oh we're all just kidding we got your attention now buy our shit or gamble your money or whatever like it's just so this stuff infuriates me yeah i i mean it's i have to say though it's

01:02:21 - 01:02:44 | Speaker 3:

pretty hard to create a viral moment anymore because there's so much noise on the internet you basically have to pretend you murdered drew breeze yeah right that's that's what that's where the bar is now for getting you know attention online is uh turns out we didn't murder drew breeze but you thought we did now uh we're offering uh you know two leg parlays on you

01:02:44 - 01:03:29 | Speaker 2:

on netherlands versus the u.s this weekend for the world cup right right now let me do one thing here luke if you don't mind um i want to give a shout out to the the um the tv personality we're talking about before rachel bonetta is the person who does these like little videos now i haven't watched this but i'm just gonna play on this it's less than a minute long just shy of a minute i'll say here and again these are kind of um you know tick tocky style videos it looks like rachel is like in a green room somewhere or her dressing room but she's like teased out her long hair so it looks like she's been zapped by lightning she's put on some a little bit of makeup it looks like so that her skin is a little bit dark, again, as if she's a little bit charred. She's not wearing blackface or brownface. I just mean she just looks a little like, you know, somebody's been hit by lightning.

01:03:29 - 01:03:32 | Speaker 3:

Does she have that kind of birthmark that Drew Brees has?

01:03:32 - 01:03:51 | Speaker 2:

I don't think so. And it looks like she's doing a fake conversation here. She's talking on the quote-unquote phone. For the record, she's just using, like, it looks like a bar of deodorant or something that she's using as a phone. Let's take a listen. I hope this is funny because she is very funny, but playing this on the fly, I feel like I'm setting us all up for failure, but let's give this a shot.

01:03:54 - 01:04:14 | Speaker 1:

Hi, Susan. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. It feels like it's been forever. Yeah. How are you? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I'm good. Yeah. Still have the dog. Yeah. Uh-huh. Still working at the bank. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. What are you up to on this day? Yeah. Oh, wow. You're up for a walk. Oh, lucky you.

01:04:14 - 01:04:17 | Speaker 2:

Is this a visual joke? Have I ruined the show?

01:04:17 - 01:04:44 | Speaker 1:

you know just getting some stuff done cleaning you know what was i doing earlier i was electrocuted earlier yeah yeah i was electrocuted i think i'm fine yeah i know i'm a silly goose yeah no i think i'm fine i can't feel the right side of my body yeah like just totally feels dead it feels dead but i feel like i'm gonna make a swing back and uh just gonna maybe take a little nap

01:04:44 - 01:04:59 | Speaker 3:

that's where it ends kids these days and their videos this is this is i'm i'm gonna see your audio tape that's more visual and raise it rachel bonetta dressed as cooper cup oh yeah

01:05:00 - 01:05:02 | Speaker 2:

This is the original thing, right, that went really viral.

01:05:02 - 01:05:19 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, this was the thing that I think initially tipped me off to her doing this kind of stuff. So she's got a laptop open. It's Cooper Cup, the receiver for the Los Angeles Rams. And by the way, Washington State, like as in resident of the state of Washington. I believe he went to Eastern. I didn't know that.

01:05:19 - 01:05:19 | Speaker 2:

Okay.

01:05:19 - 01:05:38 | Speaker 1:

Yeah. I think it's from like Spokane or something anyway, over there somewhere. So she's dressed in a uniform like Cooper Cup. She has a wig on and a beard, and she's just doing, again, this is highly visual, which is why I'm going to play it for you, because this will totally make sense. Your defender went and blitzed.

01:05:38 - 01:05:39 | Unknown:

What did you see there?

01:05:39 - 01:05:54 | Speaker 3:

How were you able to use that to your advantage? You had a little 3D fire zone, brought the nickel off the edge, safety dropped down. It did look like they were doing a replacement fire zone, so I knew in the back of the way we were in at three pushing through. I had the opportunity to kind of run in there if I could beat my guy. I just had to beat the safety to the end zone.

01:05:54 - 01:06:06 | Speaker 2:

i love that so much that's definitely the first time i'd ever heard rachel bonetta's name i mean it put her on the map for me and i think for a lot of people as well such a nonsensical string

01:06:06 - 01:06:24 | Speaker 1:

of i mean i they're not it's not nonsensical it makes sense to cooper cup right to the rest of us if you don't play if you're not matthew stafford you have no idea what the hell he's talking yeah all right well here we are my friend we made it through there for a break and then i forgot that

01:06:24 - 01:06:33 | Speaker 2:

We don't have a break there. Sorry about that. I just said, yeah. That's how I ended. Yeah. Yeah. Can you do that while you're sick?

01:06:33 - 01:07:17 | Speaker 1:

All right. Well, listen, thank you, everyone, for tolerating this odd episode of the show with me kind of laid up. But it was kind of fun. I don't remember anything we talked about, but I sort of enjoyed it as much as one can enjoy working when you're not feeling super great. But thank you, everyone, for putting up with it. That's going to do it for today's episode and for this week of broadcasting. The good news is we are going to be back here on Monday with more imaginary radio for you. So until then, please have a great weekend. Stay safe. You know, don't get whatever I have right now because it's kind of unpleasant, honestly. And we'll see you on Monday. Until then, please remember, no mountain too tall.

01:07:18 - 01:07:18 | Speaker 2:

Yeah.

01:07:24 - 01:07:54 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, just a little 3D fire zone, brought the nickel off the edge, safety drop down. It did look like they were doing a replacement fire zone, so I knew in the back of the way we were going to hit three, pushing through. I had the opportunity to kind of run in there if I could beat my guy. I just had to be the safety to the end zone.

01:07:54 - 01:07:55 | Speaker 1:

Power out.

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