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You swear that the testimony you are about to give this committee is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God. I do. Please take a seat. Senator Evis, it's your time.

Gregory Hirsch, executive assistant to Tom Wamsgans, correct?

Yes. Yes, if it is to be said.

I'm sorry?

If it is to be said, so it is.

Are you all right?

Uh, yes. Uh, I merely wish to answer in the affirmative fashion.

You can speak to us normally.

Oh, no, thank you, sir. Uh, uh, so I shall.

TBTL! Can't you say anything in a normal way? The answer, sadly, is not yes.

What I like to do is first lay down a kind of syncopated beat that isn't so much about what it is altogether. It's more about the modulation and what it is once it starts. It's a little bit of a groove.

You have no reflexes, your blood tastes like root beer, and some of your bones appear to have vanished. He's a hot tomato. I don't know what a hot tomato is.

Whatever happened to that wonderful man who was in here last week wearing that funny-looking turtleneck, seeing that dumb song? Wearing that smelly aftershave lotion. What ever happened to him?

It was too beautiful to live.

Well, hello there, everybody. Welcome to a Monday afternoon edition of TBTL. As you well know, this is a podcast that is simply too beautiful to live. Please clap. Oh, man, am I feeling that Jeb Bush drop today? I am doing everything. I just want to say, please listen. Luke Burbank is out today. You're right about that. He's the voice you usually hear first on this show. But it's me, Andrew Walsh, filling in in the hosting seat once again. Now, listen, I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, hey, are there any other podcasts out there that I could listen to right now? Because I don't know if I can handle an Andrew-only edition of TBTL. I'm telling you, you can. You can handle it And you can clap Please clap When I went back to watch that video today Of Jeb Bush on the campaign trail At some event And he gets done delivering some line And everybody's kind of quiet And he says that Please clap Please clap Everybody dunked on him pretty hard I actually re-watching that I found that to be an incredibly human And endearing moment But maybe that's just my perspective Because of so much that has happened In the world of politics Since that moment happened But anyway, please do clap. Please do listen, because I have a plan for today's show, and it is a good plan.

Not Yo-Yo Ma good, but I'd say Andrew Walsh good.

And I'd say that's good enough. Now, I'm going to try to keep the show relatively quick today, but I really do have a plan. So do you remember a while back, Luke and I started a new segment on the show? And in the grand tradition of TBTL new segments, we never returned to it. I don't think Luke liked it that much, which is why we're doing it today. It's going to work out perfectly, though. So the segment was called TBTL Explained, which we then quickly changed to calling it TBTL Unexplained, I believe, because this is a segment where you guys, the tens of listeners, write in or call in to us with your questions about the show, because even folks who've been listening for a long time, or as we call them, new listeners who've only been listening for a decade or so, So we'll still have questions about some of the inside jokes or references that we just throw around on the show willy nilly without ever really thinking, does this even make sense to anybody anymore? So we asked you guys to write in with your questions. Maybe you've been listening for a while. Maybe you're a brand new listener and you're wondering, why do we say these things that we say? Now, the first time we did this segment, Luke was kind of mortified because I think that he he felt like he didn't have a good grasp on a lot of the answers to these questions, which is true. I didn't feel so bad about it because we answered what we could answer. But then the good part, from my perspective, was by putting these questions into the podcast, we ended up hearing from a lot of you guys with much better memories than me and Luke, who were able to fill in some more of the details. So hopefully that'll happen, too. I will go through a list of questions that a bunch of you guys had for us. We'll throw them out there. I'll explain them as best I can. And then what I don't know, maybe some astute listeners out there can get back with us with some more dazzling details. Hey, that's another thing we say on the show all the time. Why? I don't know. We've explained that one enough. Also, there was a question that somebody called in with regarding our pal the Stewbot and why we call him the Stewbot and the origins of his nicknames. And I think I'm going to be able to get the Stewbot up on...

the phone in a little bit here and see if he can answer that question himself so we even have a a tbtl celebrity guest coming up if you consider the stew about a celebrity guest which i certainly do um first though i'm going to tell you a really quick story and then we'll go to break here but i had one of those moments today where i thought i was gonna have to give up the internet forever like you ever just have a moment where you're like oh i'm too stupid to use the internet now somebody take these keys away from me because I'm trying to think how I can tell this story without giving up too much personal information because this is about computer passwords and website passwords I'm not going to tell you what the website or web service was but I signed up for a pretty popular music service this weekend something that I've used for a long time but never actually set up an account with before but I set up an account with it for the very first time And I filled in all the information, including a new password that I that I created for it. Let's just say that I don't want to say, you know, like what the actual password I used was, because I do, you know, sometimes use the same passwords for a couple of different sites. But let's just say, for example, I called this password was hot mama 69. No, let's not use that one. Let's use let's use let's say that I signed up for this website. I filled in all my personal information, and then I created the password grubs with three Zs. That's my password, okay, my imaginary password for this. Well, this morning, I wake up, I get an email from this service welcoming me to it, letting me know what some of its features are, and the email started with this salutation. hello grubs with three z's welcome to your new web service and i realized that somehow in signing up for this account i filled in the password also as the username so anyone who would have seen me on this website which does have a social component to it would have seen my username as my password now would they have made that connection i'm not sure but i don't know like listen i know we're all supposed to use unique passwords for every single website we go to but like you know i got like i don't know seven or eight main passwords that i kind of circuit that's probably even generous honestly i have a handful of passwords that i use across sites right so when i woke up this morning and i saw an email to me that sort of publicly displayed one of these passwords as my username i was i was shocked i felt like it felt like one of those dreams where you are walking around naked i felt super exposed to be honest with you i don't think i've ever had the naked dream before have you guys had that dream or is that just something

that like they put in tv shows in the 90s a lot you have an anxiety dream and in the dream you're showing up to school naked or work naked because it's so titillating i've never had that i did have a dream last night that i thought was sort of interesting but you know what i can feel you staring at me saying don't talk about that dream walsh i swear to god i'll put on the gist so fast so okay let's just stop it there i'll stop my rambling let's take a quick little break and then we come back we are going to revisit everybody's favorite segment tbtl unexplained please clap

dummies don't know what you're saying so please start explaining tbtl explained dummies i know what you're thinking and yes i need your reasons tbtl explained

Thank you to listener Allie for making that little intro for us. Of course, that was when the segment was still called TBTL Explained. It is now called TBTL Unexplained because basically this is where we unexplain things. The first question today comes from Linda in Lancaster. Although, as I say that out loud, I'm wondering if that's actually am I supposed to say Lancaster, Lancaster. I think I'm saying that wrong all different kinds of ways. Hopefully I'm saying Linda correctly. Linda wants to know what happened to the keys to the show segment for some reason Linda writes I loved the daily awkwardness of Andrew's keys to the show why did that stop did folks complain were you threatened with a lawsuit I was not threatened with a lawsuit although I will say that is one of the only segments in TBTL history that I've been a part of that actually did sort of hurt one of my friend's feelings a little bit here let me explain so before Before I started doing TBTL full time with Luke, and it was something that I was doing kind of part time while I had my own radio show at Cairo Radio, the night show that I did, it was just called The Andrew Walsh Show. I'll never know how they came up with that name. By the way, have I said this on the show before? I really did not want it to be called The Andrew Walsh Show. I had some other ideas. None of them are really good, but they insisted on calling it The Andrew Walsh Show. Anyway, I was hosting that show for a year is on at night from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. It was actually in the old TBTL time slot, and it was just me, kind of like this is just me today. Only I also had producer Nick, Nick Jarn, who ended up becoming a very good friend of mine and remains a good friend of mine. But he was the producer of that sometimes mishigas of a night show that I was doing, and I thought it would be funny if we had Nick give the keys to the show every night. So if you're familiar with like baseball or football or I'm sure any sports broadcast in the in the pregame show, the hosts will often do something like, what are the keys to the game? What what do the Seahawks need to do right today in order to beat the Rams, which they did yesterday? Not handily, but successfully. And so I thought it'd be funny if Nick every day would jump on the horn with me, crack his microphone, crack his producer's mic, and talk about what we needed to do as a broadcasting duo to make the Andrew Walsh show successful that night. And we called it the Andrew Walsh show, or I think we called it Nick Jaren's keys to the show. And, you know, for most of the things I did on that stupid night show, I just created my own little janky intros or what have you. But this time I actually asked the people in the upstairs offices if we could have them make like an official like the guy who does the ESP. I think it's the guy who does the ESPN imaging promos. We had him on contract or something. The radio station did. So we asked them to make this for us.

Now it's Nick Jarran's Keys to the Show. Keys to the Show. And then Nick would jump in and say, OK, Andrew, here's what we need tonight. We need confidence, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so when I stopped doing that show and then I think maybe even a couple of years later when I quit my other job and started doing TBTL full time, I brought that segment over to TBTL. And instead of Nick giving us the keys to the Andrew Walsh show, I was giving Luke the keys to TBTL that day. The same exact bit. I didn't think it was a big deal because it had been my idea at least in my memory it had been my idea to do that and I do remember Nick not to put him on blast this isn't putting him on blast really it's putting more me on blast I remember Nick kind of being like what are you doing man that was kind of my segment why did you do that on TBTL I don't know if that's the reason why we stopped doing it but I do know that Nick wasn't super thrilled about it and also I probably just ran out of things to say That's the only reason I stopped doing that In fact, I'm re-looking at Linda's question here She says, I loved the daily awkwardness of it So maybe that had something to do with it as well, Linda Also got a question here from listener Michael Who wants to know the origin of Walsh, Walsh, and Doormat Now, I don't know, is that something that we still throw around a lot? I'm not sure I feel like I used to throw it around a lot more You'll hear me refer to my studio As the studios of Walsh, Walsh and Dormat Or maybe sometimes like the offices Of Walsh, Walsh and Dormat And that is just a made up Attorney or like a made up Law firm that I came Up with when Luke and I were spoofing around On the show one day I mean I don't remember The origins maybe there's a listener out there Who does I don't know if it really matters But I'm sure we were talking and this goes Back this goes back a long Ways now probably more than five years but uh yeah i think luke just asked me like what would the name of your law firm be and since you know you usually don't want a doormat somebody who gets walked all over uh as your attorney uh i said my law firm would be called walsh walsh and doormat in fact our pal josh um do i say pale funny i feel like i say pale funny our friend josh um in collaboration with the Little Red Bandwagon podcast created a nice logo that I have on a mug. They sent me a mug that says Walsh, Walsh and Dormat and a nice lawyerly font on it that I still drink from to this day, although I'm not drinking out of it now. No offense to Josh. All right, now I have a voicemail here from a listener who has a question about our friend, the Stewbot. Before I play the voicemail, though, Let's see if we can get Stu on the line.

good afternoon hey man thanks for jumping on the line with me i appreciate i'm out here all by myself today just dangling i needed a what happened needed to phone a friend luke's sick today man oh man um rsv flu oh um i think it might be you know what i'm gonna see how much It might be something that my father used to call the Budweiser flu, although I'm not entirely sure it was Budweiser this time. We'll let Luke answer that question tomorrow. Maybe they'll get people to tune in after today's Mishigas. But I'm in the middle of a segment here. I don't know if you're familiar with this. We only did it once before, a segment we call TBTL Unexplained. Are you familiar with this? It's okay.

I am vaguely familiar with this, Andrew.

Okay, good. This isn't a gotcha interview. This isn't like, have you been listening to the podcast? This is just me and you talking, okay? I need you to calm down.

I will calm down, but yes, I have been listening to the podcast.

Okay, thank you. About how often? Like how many hours a week would you say?

I'd say I put in a good two to three hours a week, Andrew. Probably four sometimes. So that's Monday's show.

All right. Well, here's the deal with TBTL Unexplained. People write in. I think it's pretty self-unexplanatory, right? People write in and say, hey, why do you do this thing on the show? I could use a little bit of background information on this, that, or the other thing. And I got this voicemail from somebody who actually seems a little bit rattled, Stu. Oh, okay. And this involves you. So here, take a listen to this. The beginning of the phone call was a little bit rocky, so I didn't catch the person's name.

The stupid name is Steve. When did that happen? I was definitely under the impression that the man's name was Stuart Newman, Stu Newman. So I'm wondering maybe if you could explain, number one, the back story to his nickname, Stubot. And obviously I know that your friend Newman, rest in peace, I believe his first name was Jason. is there any I mean Newman's a common last name but is there any relation between Newman and Steve the Steve bot

alright Steve bot now you've first of all Steve bot is just ridiculous show some god damn respect right right goodness gracious you've explained this to me many times over the years I I am not sure if you've been toying with me in your explanation or if it's been pure honesty. I won't give my version here. Will you please explain how your name is Steve, yet we call you the Stewbot?

Yes, of course. My second day of college at St. Cloud State University, go Huskies, woo. Guy across the hall from me says, oh, you're Steve Newman, like Stewie Newman from the movie St. Elmo's Fire. And I was like vaguely familiar with the movie, but not like the reference or the character. And like he just started calling me Stu and then everyone else on my dorm floor started calling me Stu. And I basically got the name in college and it just kind of echoed out through the generations from there. And when I took a job at NPR, there were three Steves in a row in our little cubicle area. myself, El Ropo, Steve Nelson, and the journalist, Stephen Smith, not Stephen A. Smith, just Stephen Smith. So to make things easier, I said, you know, because somebody would go into that area and ask for Steve, and, like, that's just too many Steves. I think that's not even – it's like a quorum of Steves,

and nobody wants that.

So I just said, you know what, I'll go by Stu. That's what a lot of people online know me as anyway. So – and also, back story on the St. Elmo's fire, There is a scene in the movie where Mare Winningham, her character, is talking to Rob Lowe, and Rob Lowe is accusing her of losing her virginity to Stewie Newman, and she goes, Yeah, would you do it with Stewie Newman? And that's a great nickname to have in college. Anyway, so anyway, yeah, that is the genesis of the Steve-Stew divide, and I think we've all learned a valuable lesson.

Well, it's the stews we met along the way. It is the stews we met.

I should ask you, I am not related to the late Newman from Luke's friend circle up in the Pacific Northwest. I believe my last name is spelled N-E-U-M-A-N. I believe his was N-E-W-M-A-N.

Indeed, his. was spelled that way. And also, did you know that, I know that you know that Genevieve and I have a podcast called After These Messages. About how many hours of that do you listen to a week, would you say? That's actually the only other podcast I listen to. Yeah. When we started that podcast, it took us a while to come up with a name. We came up with After These Messages. We looked around to make sure there wasn't already a podcast with that name on iTunes, et cetera, et cetera. It looked like We're in the clear. We spent about two more weeks sort of planning our first episode or what have you. And then we released our first episode. I go to publish it online and I see that in that two weeks period of time, somebody else has launched a podcast called After These Messages. And that person's name, Jason Newman. But spelled your style of Newman. Yes. With the EU. You're the EU situation, right? I am the EU situation.

The European Union. Stop, guys. I totally biffed that pronunciation. I apologize.

You know, here's the deal. If you had told me about the college origins of that nickname, I completely forgot about it because I thought that you always just told me that it was when you came to American Public Media or NPR that there were too many people named Steve, and so you just went with Stu. But that always seemed a little bit fishy to me because, first of all, that just seems like a strange move. But also, as you said, a lot of people online knew you as Stu long before you worked for Minnesota Public Radio, right?

Correct, correct. My Twitter account, RandballStu, I'm still on there. Even if you left because of Elon, I'm still there, which I don't blame anyone for doing that. But yeah, that's just kind of like what people called me. So I just kind of, you know, I never had a problem with it. So I just went by it on basically all of your online forums.

Because everything is so complicated with you. And I know this is on the record, but let's just clear it. I told you this was going to be a relaxing conversation. You're not on the spot here. But why do you make everything so difficult? Why is it Rand Ball's stew? Oh, goodness.

I know, I know. So Michael Rand runs a blog, ran a blog, I believe. Actually, he still publishes it every once in a while. The Randball blog on the Star Tribune, which is the Minneapolis-St. Paul newspaper. And I was a frequent commenter on there. And that's honestly how my writing and posting career started. Seriously, I was like just a commenter there. And they liked what I wrote and started publishing it in the actual goddamn paper. And that just sort of is where my writing career came from, was from Mike elevating me out of the out of the little hole that Bane was in and Dark Knight Rises and bringing. I was molded by it.

I merely adopted it.

Yes, exactly. That is that is how that happened. is I owe a lot to Mike Rand because – and we had to move our comment into Twitter because our comments kept getting spiked by the moderator on Star Tribune. We kept swearing too much. So we just moved over to Twitter, and I saw people would know who it was. I just said, oh, I'll call myself Randball Steve.

But not Steve, though. You never chose Randball Steve. There were too many Randball Steves. Just think about it.

Randball Steve just sounds like someone who's authoritative and witty. Ramball Steve, this sounds like a guy who can't get within 500 feet of a church or a school. Come on, man. You know that to be true.

That's ridiculous. I know. Have you ever had the naked dream, by the way? I mentioned that earlier. I've never had the... Do you think that's really a thing people have, or is it just something titillating that people put on TV in the night?

No, it's just a... It's just... Yeah, it's not real. It's just... Come on. People are lying.

All right. Thanks for clearing all that stuff up. Let's talk about the important stuff. Who do you think the Vikings are going to face in the Super Bowl?

um let's see that's um i i still think philadelphia is gonna come out of that the nfc they're so good i think what's interesting to me personally and professionally given um my attachment to your show as an associate producer is if the season were to end today the vikings would play the seahawks oh really yes that would be the first round matchup the the seahawks would travel to u.s bank stadium and play the vikings in the first round of the playoffs as a as a

Now, I know that the Seahawks and the Vikings have sort of a weird history where somehow the Seahawks pull off some weird things when facing the Vikings. But in this situation, I mean, you guys are 10-2. I don't know how many games have been played. Okay, yeah. You're like 10-2. 10-2, like that would not worry you to face the Seahawks right now, right?

You have to understand this Vikings team is very weird right now. They keep winning these incredibly close games, and it's not traditionally in a non-sustainable way. You just can't keep winning these one-possession games, but it has been sustainable the entire year. All 10 of their games, I think, have won by eight points or less except for one of them, and it usually comes down to the last possession of every game, which is just frickin' nerve-wracking, Andrew. I am just an absolute mess at the end of these games, just shaking under a table. It's just, it's like, you know, like, who's the guy who co-hosts your podcast? Like, when Luke has, like, a 14-3 sport parlay that he has to hit just to make his nut?

Yeah, it's like that.

It's exactly like that. I'm sorry, that's just, that's hypothetical that has never happened that actually knows it. Anyway. But yeah, it has really been a stressful year, even though it's a very positive year. These games are just maddening. And I would not say that Seattle has no chance. I think they're a better team than Seattle, but Seattle could absolutely beat them. I'd say I'd give them a good one-in-three chance. Geno's looked great. They have a great, like Tariq Woolen is a great linebacker. You have the best rookie running back in the league. D.K. Metcalf and Tyler Lockett are a great receiving group. you guys would have as good a chance as anybody of pulling off an upset in the first

round. Well I'll tell you what and I'm not joking man I am so happy that the Vikings are doing so well like the Seahawks weren't supposed to be great this season anyway it's a weird transitional season. Nor were the Vikings. Is that true the Vikings weren't looking that great? No.

This is the same team that like underperformed and got their head coach and general manager fired last year. This is pretty much the same team with one free agent from Green Bay and one tight end from detroit so they're all one year older and yet they're overperforming last year by leaps and bounds they really just hated mike zimmer i think i mean it's the same damn team and the difference is well you can just look at it they're gonna clinch a playoff spot next week pretty much regardless of what happens and they'll have a month of the season left nobody thought that what's going to happen what does skull mean skull um that's some sort of scandinavian bullshit i can't tell you i can't tell you the exact translation right now but it's it's something like go or victory or we come from the land of the ice and snow from the red hot sun and the hot wind blow and then rubber i mean but um yeah that's that's what that is um hey you know what

can you just hang on the line with me as i answer two more questions here from listeners as we go back to the tbtl unexplained everybody's favorite segment of course do you have time for this i told you yeah i only needed five minutes and i realize i'm sort of pushing my luck here no that's okay just keep going okay good um you got this thank you i appreciate it i got a note here from lauren who says i started listening to tbtl just before the australia trip so that was like three years ago three years that was a different man right before the pandemic i think i think i might have brought it back do you think i'm patient zero yes okay good i started listening to tbtl just before the australian trip so i'm pretty new to the tbtl world every time luke's bellingham neighbors are mentioned in passing on the show i become more curious about the back story. So here's my question. Why does Andrew insist that Luke's former neighbors, Rich and

Linda, aren't real? Because they weren't real. Thank you. We have talked about this on the show before. Rich and Linda weren't real. I have never seen evidence that they are real. No one has provided it. Just just a photograph, just a proof of life thing with like a newspaper.

Exactly. So that I just verify yourself in the subreddit of life. Rich and Linda. How do I even know that you're real? I guess I'll take I'll take I'll take a stab at being earnest here. Lauren, I don't know, man. Like, I don't know why Luke would tell these stories about his neighbors, Rich and Linda. And for some reason, they just started to sound fake to me. And so I started really doubting in Rich and Linda. And, you know, I have not met them personally. I assume you've never met them, Stu. You came in hot on that.

Because nobody has met them, Andrew.

Nobody has met them. So, Lauren, I think if you don't mind me tweaking your question a little bit, I would restate and be like, Why does Luke insist that he lives next to two people named Rich and Linda when there's literally no proof that these people ever existed? That's kind of how I would tweak that question if you're looking for feedback from me.

And then I have one more here, Stu, and then I'm going to let you go. This is from listener Aaron, who says, I'm listening to your review episode by episode as I rewatch Patriot. Hey, you know what that means? We have another person coming to TBTL through the Macmillan Men podcast. They said it would never happen. They literally said, Stu, that it would never happen. They said you're not going to grow your audience by doing a podcast about a TV show that nobody's ever seen.

Nobody but seven of us. Yes, I'm very familiar.

Every time we get an email from somebody who says, hey, I'm new to TBTL. I found you through the Macmillan Men podcast. I send it to my former colleague, Brandon, Brandon Santos, who's no longer even with the company. He works for Vox now, but he doubted so hard that anybody would discover TBTL through it that I literally send him my clippings when people write into this. Anyway, Aaron says, I'm listening to Macmillan Men as I rewatch Patriot. In an episode five, you use the term that, you know, someone who is a P1 in reference to someone who is a fan of something. Where did you get that term from? Now, I can this is one question that I can just hit out of the park, Stu. But do you do you know the answer to this?

Nope. You can explain it better than I do, because this is I found this fascinating when you were talking about this.

So this is this harkens back to the old days of Arbitron rankings, which I don't think are around anymore. I think it's all Nielsen ratings now. Right. Used to be Nielsen ratings for TV, Arbitron ratings for radio. And this was ways that radio stations would try to measure the size of their audience and like kind of tell what are what are the popular shows? What are the popular day parts? Where are they getting listeners from? And the P1 was a technical term used by Arbitron to describe somebody who is very loyal to a single radio station. So if you get in your car every day, I'm going to use some Cleveland references here because I haven't done that enough. If you get in your car every day and you turn on the radio and it's automatically on WMMS because you've been listening to the buzzard the night before and you're going to listen to the buzzard on your way into work because you are a P1 of WMMS. WMMS like that is Your station you're A buzzard head But every now and then like maybe You know WMMS goes to Commercial break or something and you just want a little Bit of Lanigan and Webster or some Oldies you're going to flip over to WMJI That would make W You'd be like a P2 to WMJI Because that's the station you go to After you check Out your P1 with WMMS Did that make sense I feel like I'm throwing a lot of A lot of complicated

Did you define what the P stood for?

I don't think I know. And honestly. I said primary? This primary? That would make sense, right? That would make sense. You want me to Google this? Do you think I should have done this maybe before the show?

I mean, this is where the excitement comes in. Yeah, exactly. Okay, here. Oh, go ahead. What were you going to say? I was going to say, I use P1 at my current work now, like our big beer fans. We call them P1s in my little marketing circle. So I brought that terminology to the world of beer.

I love it. I have a – this show has just gotten – this show has just taken a turn for the better here. I didn't think it could get any better after we introduced you, but I just came across a PDF, a 25-page PDF from Arbitron called A Guide to Understanding and Using PPM Data for PPM Radio Ratings Customers. So this is – oh, good, and it's from 2010, too, so it's up to date. Again, I don't even think Arbitron is around anymore. What is PPM is a personal people meter, I believe, right?

Yes, you would put that on your TV so people would know what you are watching.

P1 stands for first preference, a station to which a specific demographic listens to majority of its time. P1 listeners are vital to a station's ratings as they usually constitute the majority of station's average quarter hour audience or as we say in the biz aqh baby wow that's awesome

now you know you could have just called steve nelson and he would have known this off the top

i know but i have a one steve per show policy that i'm sticking to i think you got a show title all right i better let you go hey i was thinking i'm gonna um take a break here and thank some donors of the day um this is a random question that i was going to ask you anyway what is your you brought up the beer industry you of course are in the beer industry you're a mover you're a shaker um what is your favorite beer out of seattle washington or the the general region

um oh gosh um oh god i'm gonna mispronounce this um it's a they're out of oregon the Thank you.

frame brothers is p-f-r-i-e-m or frame maybe and they have a pilsner that is just out of sight it is so good so crisp so clean so fresh so clean entre 3000 and big boy endorse it um that is my it's yeah that is what oh it's one of my all-time favorite beers they don't distribute out here um whenever i'm talking to my in-laws they always tease me about the fact they have some in their fridge and i can't get any can i ship some to you um i think that's illegal is it illegal to ship beer well it's it's like illegal wink wink like marijuana is illegal wink wink for white people type of thing so yeah um but yeah there's like little like workarounds for that but i've always has if anybody ever wants to send me some uh frame pilsner um or fry them or p frame i don't god it's gonna drive me nuts not knowing the pronunciation of this when i'm on the spot here But it's a great beer, and I think their other stuff is fantastic, too.

What is going on with Minnesota's marijuana law? That was passed somewhat mistakenly last session, right? And now, did I see some headlines today with them trying to repeal it because of, like, horror stories of people dying from marijuana intake?

Well, it's just, it's, well, I don't know if that's, I think, I don't know about that case specifically. specifically but it sure sounds like they might have been mixing substances along with some very high milligram gummies the gummies are called death by gummy bear that's the one i saw yes right never die ironically that's a never i always remember the guy from anthrax when the anthrax scare happens a man i really hope i don't get anthrax that would be really dumb

who was the first person to run to get that interview by the way applause to them

did i lose you stew i'm back hey i'm back baby i uh hit i hit the mute button on my phone andrew oh okay i'm sorry you can hear me dad hit the mute button

sorry um no problem so is that law going to be repealed nope i think it will stay in and it'll

just get finessed to maybe be a little more regulated regulated there's i'll probably get like some taxing in on it because there's currently no taxation at all on it it's the

There's a whole pillage of passing something like that.

Yeah, so you can build roads in schools, basically. And there's currently nothing like that. And also, the legislature just went all Democrat in Minnesota. I think they'll just make the rest of it legal as well. So it'll be a full—because there's currently this hemp-derived THC that is legal. It cannot be cannabis-derived. Oh, really? That is still illegal. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Like I said, it was a very weird law that nobody read. And once it was passed, people realized that it made the THC, a drive from hemp, legal in Minnesota.

But is it still just as potent and everything? Like, I mean, we're talking about those really potent gummies. So, like, as far as the effects, it doesn't change that. It's just the process of making them.

I can tell from my minor experimentation with them that they work real damn well.

I was going to ask you, going back to beer for a second, though, So this is probably a very basic IPA to bring up. You know, I drink a lot. Well, actually, I was the type of guy who would drink IPA in the winter and then like just like shitty light beers during the summer. I hate to admit this, but I was drinking IPAs throughout the summer, which really doesn't speak well of my liver or my body. It's all hanging off of me. But I drink a lot of Bodhi Zaffa. Are you familiar with Bodhi Zaffa?

Isn't that Georgetown? Georgetown Brewery. Yes, I do like that one. And I had that last time I flew, it was out in Seattle visiting you, actually, that Georgetown had, I think, do they have a beer called Lucy or Lucille? Lucille as well.

I believe they're both named after characters in that movie where the guys jump out of the airplane wearing Nixon masks and Rob Banks. Point Break. Point Break. I believe they're all named after Point Break characters.

God, I hope they have. If they don't have a beer called I Am an FBI Agent, I'm not sure about my work.

And hey, by the way, I might not have had the name of that movie right at the tip of my tongue, but I think I described it perfectly.

Well, I mean, there's no way I wasn't going to get that right.

Did you know that, though? Is Bodie like the name of the main character?

Yeah, that's the name of the late Patrick Swayze's character. Yeah, well, that's what I'm... Yeah, and that's the story of how Johnny Utah, former college football superstar, infiltrates the ex-president's gang.

There's also a beer that they sell called Johnny Utah. Oh, son of a gun. That is true. I think it's a Pilsner. Never tried it. Oh, man. All right. I'm running out of time here. Not my time, your time, I feel like. It's good to catch up with you, though. I haven't talked to you in a long time. Are we good as friends?

Yeah, we're totally good as friends.

Okay, good. Thanks for jumping on the line with me. It was really fun to talk with you today.

No problem, man. I'll talk to you soon. Go Huskies, woo. Bye. Woo. All right, let's thank some of the people who make conversations with the Steve Bot possible. Thank you to our pal Sarah Burke in Seattle, Washington. And I don't think that's right. I think, if it's okay for me to say this, I think Sarah's down in Portland now. I could be wrong about that. But Sarah is a gem. I've hung out with Sarah at baseball games before. She's supposed to show me how to officially score baseball games. But then she moved out of town before she could do that. So I guess she couldn't handle the pressure. That's okay. Thank you for supporting the show, Sarah. Also, thanks to Scott and Roger Harbison of Waipahu, Hawaii. I think I'm saying that correctly. Waipahu, Hawaii. I had to look that up. That's on Oahu next to or kind of near Honolulu, where I will be spending some time this holiday season. Thanks to the largesse of a friend who has a place over there. So I'm looking forward to I've never been to Oahu before, so I'm excited for that. And I'm excited that Scott and Roger are supporting the show. Thank you. Also, thanks to Gretchen Hayslip of Seattle, Washington, home, of course, of Georgetown Brewing, where you can have all of your Point Break beers served to you. Nick Jeffries of Linwood, Washington. Linwood is the home of Linwood Bowling Skate. I don't know if we say that every single time we thank somebody from Linwood, but Linwood Bowling Skate, if you've never been, I mean, it is just magic. Here's the deal. It's both a bowling alley and a skating rink, and it is as beautiful now as it was 30 years ago in what I assume was its heyday, or 40 years ago. It's great. I've got to get to Linwood. Thank you, Nick. Also, thanks to Eric Sombrano of Tacoma, Washington. I love Tacoma. I'm making a, you know, I live with somebody from Tacoma now. That would be my cat Bingo grew up in Tacoma. And the couple of times we went down there to meet Bingo and bring him back up here, I really fell in love with Tacoma. I want to spend more time down there. And finally, thanks to Philip Brock of North Chesterfield, Virginia. I will be honest with you. I was not familiar with North Chesterfield, Virginia, except in the context of when we thank Philip Brock. So I looked it up really quickly. And listen, I hope this is OK for me to say. I was very excited to see like when you look up Chesterfield, Virginia on the map, you see quite prominently in the middle of town is an Arby's. Now, I think I said that about a town around here recently. And Luke thought I was besmirching the town. by emphasizing their Arby's quotient. But like, honestly, I love an Arby's, so that was exciting to me. And probably the map showed me where the Arby's was because usually when I'm looking at a map,

I'm looking for an Arby's. But also I thought it was notable that Chesterfield, Virginia has both a Costco and a Sam's Club. Weren't we talking about that on the show recently? Like how often do those two places actually compete because how often are they in the same community? Well, if you're looking to be a member of both, May I recommend North Chesterfield, Virginia? And maybe look up Philip Brock while you're there. He's a donor of TBTL and therefore somebody I admire and appreciate a great deal. Thank you, everybody, for supporting TBTL. I truly, truly do appreciate it, and I truly appreciate you rolling with us today. Kind of a strange day.

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man, it's not from a female.

all right before we get out of here i want to clear something up in our email and voicemail segment here if you'll recall last week on the show luke and i were talking about the movie die hard specifically we're talking about uh the character of theo who says that iconic line the quarterback is toast i'd play it for you here but i got music playing and i can't can't do them both at the same time sorry about that you'll have to just go with my imitation The quarterback is toast. It's not a great impression, but it's the best I got. We were talking about it because the actor who plays that character, Theo, passed away. His name was Clarence Gilliard Jr., and he passed away at like age 66 last week. It was really sad. But Luke was asking me what actually prompts the character of Theo to say that line. The quarterback is toast. Like literally what is happening in the moment? And of course, I didn't know. I've only seen that movie like maybe once but Genevieve overheard the conversation outside my door and so I called her in here because she loves that movie and we asked her basically why he yells that line now in Genevieve's defense She was rushing in here, she was putting on her headphones, she was getting settled behind the microphone, and she didn't realize that Luke and I were asking that specific question. She thought we just wanted to know basically what he's hacking into during the movie, and she does explain it, and she explains where the bearer bonds are kept in a vault, and how Theo's hacking into the mainframe, etc. And she got all of that stuff right. But she was a little confused about the specificity of the question because Luke and I had been talking about it before she had her headphones on. And so a lot of people wrote in or called in to gently let Genevieve know that she was mistaken about the moment that line is yelled in the movie. I've passed this all along to Genevieve, and she told me over some bowls of pho for dinner that night that she wasn't wrong. She merely misspoke. I got this note from Holly Wu Mike, who says, first, I want to say how much I really enjoyed Genevieve on the show. I was stuck on the tarmac at the airport in the midst of a massive snowstorm for six hours, and the show helped pass the time much more quickly. So it pains me to say that Genevieve got the context for the quote wrong. Theo, in addition to breaking into the safe, is also monitoring the security cameras and reporting to the others about the goings on outside. When the police drive up with an armored vehicle, Theo alerts the others with the great line. It appears the police have themselves an RV again. I'm not really doing an impression there. I don't know that line very well. The police have themselves an RV. That's not how it goes. Hans and one of his other henchmen then shoot a missile at the armored vehicle causing it to be engulfed in flames that is when Theo utters

the classic line and the quarterback is toast Mike says Die Hard is one of my all time favorite films and the Stew Bot would say it is objectively perfect hey I know the Stew Bot I just talked to him on the phone recently so thank you for that clarification a lot of people wrote in with that I did share that with Genevieve but she really really wants you to know that she misunderstood the question. And listen, I went back to the tape and I heard Luke and I could have been a little bit more clear in what we were looking for there. But it was a delightful episode and thanks everybody for clearing the record on that. Alright, that's what we got for today. Thanks for sticking with me. I had a good time. I hope you had a good time as well. Luke will be with us tomorrow on the show. That is a guarantee. And in the meantime, I hope you guys all have a great monday evening we'll talk to you tomorrow probably a little bit earlier in the day uh and until then please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all the steve bot power out