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#3833 Innocuous Rift
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#3833 Innocuous Rift

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

December 9, 2022 | 01:14:34 | Leisure, Comedy

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Andrew has some questions for Luke, but he's weirdly nervous to ask them. Meanwhile, Luke is in Yonkers, where he's trying to fit an Instagram-shaped peg into a Twitter-shaped hole.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:42 | Speaker 4:

I will come to your house. I will go to your refrigerator. I will take your butter out of your fridge. I will eat the butter in front of you and your family's eyes. and I I force you to watch me while I eat all your butter you will beg and cry and say no don't eat all our butter we need for Christmas I will say haha not my problem and take the empty bottle I will throw it on the stairway I will go home TBTL

00:00:42 - 00:00:54 | Speaker 2:

guess what day it is guess what day it is it's Friday Friday gonna get down on Friday

00:00:54 - 00:01:07 | Speaker 4:

everybody's looking forward to the weekend for $20 I can tell you a lot of things for 30 I can tell you more and for 50 I can tell you everything it's kind of weird I feel like I'm being

00:01:07 - 00:01:11 | Speaker 2:

interrogated but by someone who doesn't really want to know anything important for the sake of

00:01:11 - 00:01:17 | Speaker 4:

customer service try to chill out my mom oh my god man we are seeing some we ain't never seen before

00:01:17 - 00:02:22 | Speaker 3:

all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a friday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live so far this breakfast has been a disaster my name is luke burbank i am your host yeah make me a filet malone or a million Coming to you from the Residence Inn in Yonkers, New York. Don't let anyone tell you that podcasting is not a glamour industry. Follow your heart. Follow your dreams. And one day, you too may be at the Residence Inn in Yonkers, New York. Conveniently located right across the parking lot from the Courtyard by Marriott. Inn, in Yonkers, New York. Actually, this room is kind of, it's pretty nice. It has a kitchen. There's a fireplace. I have a crackling fireplace going just to my left on this kind of brisk December day.

00:02:22 - 00:02:27 | Speaker 2:

Quick question, though. Am I panicked about the fire? Am I being brave for everyone else?

00:02:28 - 00:03:29 | Speaker 3:

It's actually kind of nice in here. I could get used to this. I won't have to because I'm going to be heading out of here a little bit later on. and heading down to New York City. But in the meantime, we have business to attend to, known as Episode 3833 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. The Oxford Dictionary has released their word of the year, and this is something that they do every year to remind us that there's an Oxford Dictionary by picking a word or a phrase that causes talk radio shows across the country to throw their hands up in the air. And I feel that they've sort of done a version of that this year by announcing Goblin Mode as their word. The word that comes to mind is ludicrous. So we will dig into that a little bit. Also, a mayor in a very small Iowa town is coming under some criticism for being featured in a calendar for charity where he's nude.

00:03:29 - 00:03:31 | Speaker 2:

Wipes the potty. Wipes your body.

00:03:31 - 00:04:46 | Speaker 3:

Or sort of. He's not really. He's wearing underwear. But anyway, we can talk about that. And also our big announcement from yesterday that we can remind everyone of, which is that we are going to be having a TBTL holiday get-together on Zoom Friday, December 16th, 5 p.m. West Coast. It's going to be the TBTL Holiday Gathering, also known as the Great TBTL Holiday Food Off. One of those phrases that really trips off the tongue. I want to hang out with you. want to have some Christmas libations, holiday libations, I should say. This is including any kind of holiday you want to celebrate this time of year, or even if you don't want to celebrate a holiday, but you just want to see what people eat. We're going to make some food. We're going to taste test it on air, which of course presents a certain barrier to entry in that we can't taste the food you're cooking, but we are going to try to declare a winner. Anyway, that's all coming up on Friday, December 16th, so we hope to see you for that. I know the person who knows just how you can log into that whole system. It's this guy, the longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. I think it would be an understatement to say that social media hasn't changed him in certain ways.

00:04:46 - 00:04:53 | Speaker 1:

Before social media, I was rich and anonymous, and after social media, I'm still rich but no longer anonymous.

00:04:54 - 00:04:56 | Speaker 3:

He's Andrew Welsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

00:04:56 - 00:05:07 | Speaker 1:

Good morning. Where did you get that tape of me? Why did you get that tape with me? He's talking to Genevieve. From your private collection. From the thing you sent me and said, please don't make this into a drop. I send this to you in confidence.

00:05:08 - 00:06:01 | Speaker 2:

That helped me, by the way. I was listening to another podcast or maybe a radio show yesterday, and people were just, without explanation, referring to that guy. What's his name? Liver King. Liver King. And I was like, I know what liver... Are you kidding? Of course I know what Liver King is. I've known about Liver King for like 12 hours. Hey, I did some work during your intro. I was listening today, but I actually did some work during the intro and I don't want it to go to waste. You are talking to me from Yonkers. I think Yonkers is one of the most fun names, not goofy names, not silly names, but just one of the most fun city names in America. So I wanted to see if I could come up with some more. And again, I found all kinds of lists of like Boogertown, Missouri or whatever. Or, you know, like, I'm not going for that. Or what's the, you know, like, isn't there like a. . .

00:06:01 - 00:06:02 | Speaker 1:

Well, Intercourse, Pennsylvania.

00:06:02 - 00:06:09 | Speaker 2:

I was about to say celibate Pennsylvania. No, that's in Ohio. They're right across the river from each other.

00:06:10 - 00:06:14 | Speaker 1:

Isn't that where you went to high school? Celibate Ohio? The syllabus.

00:06:14 - 00:06:17 | Speaker 2:

Celibate Ohio. The celibate syllabus.

00:06:17 - 00:06:20 | Speaker 1:

When you're here, nobody asks you what base you've gotten to.

00:06:21 - 00:06:48 | Speaker 2:

Okay. Oh, man, I am making a mess of this show already. I can't think of words. Here is what I came up with. Bug Tussle, Kentucky. Bug Tussle, Kentucky. That's pretty good. Knock Em Stiff, Ohio. Cookie Town, Oklahoma. Ding Dong, Texas. Funk, Nebraska. And Yum Yum, Tennessee. I believe that those are all competing with Yonkers to be some of the most frivolous names in America.

00:06:49 - 00:07:39 | Speaker 1:

Yonkers, I just love how much it sounds like bonkers. Yeah, it's just so fun. Which I think is probably part of – you know what's interesting is I lived in New York City for a period of time, and I'd never been up here. And in my mind, as I was flying from Ohio to New York yesterday, I thought I'm going to land in New York City at LaGuardia. I'm going to rent a car, which I had scheduled, and then I'm going to drive for many, many hours up to like the Buffalo, New York area or Albany or something. And then when I landed I did a quick check on like Waze And it's like, no, it's 30 minutes from the airport It's just north of the Bronx I drove past Yankee Stadium And other such sites in the Bronx Getting up here But it's actually very close And it's quite bucolic and lovely up here

00:07:39 - 00:07:42 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, it sounds it I would like to be in Yonkers someday

00:07:42 - 00:09:29 | Speaker 1:

Had I known about this whole area Dobbs Ferry, Yonkers, Irvington which is where we're actually filming today um i was commenting to the the guy that was driving the lift i had i had um two interesting lift drivers to and from the the shoot location the the guy driving me out there was really sharing his heart with me as a self-described degenerate gambler which i couldn't quite tell if he was offering that as a kind of he was joking a little bit or if he was trying to really like unburden himself i got in the car and he said oh are you visiting from somewhere and can i just tell you andrew i've started lying about this for a reason that i don't understand consciously i've stopped saying portland and i've started saying seattle like i guess because i think what people haven't heard of portland oregon like i don't know i just feel like the conversations that i have when i'm somewhere far far away from portland and someone says where do you live and i say portland oregon the conversations are tremendously unsatisfying no one's ever no one's like oh i i love to visit portland or i used to live in portland or it just feels like it's not a conversation starter and so i feel like saying seattle is it is a lie but i did mostly grow up there i'm still there a lot i for some reason i'm like rounding up now so i get in the lift and the guy says something like are you are you visiting i'm like you know what he actually literally said it was kind of funny he said is this your residence or are you visiting and maybe he just meant like the city of yonkers but i thought do you think i i live at the residence inn i mean i could honestly well

00:09:29 - 00:09:33 | Speaker 2:

maybe he didn't know he might not have known like he might not see residence in on his app he might

00:09:33 - 00:11:14 | Speaker 1:

just see an address and also it looks like an apartment building there you go like it's supposed to look so yeah you know what actually i'm getting some clarity thank you i was worried for the i was worried for the the mental health of my driver for a minute when he goes do you live here and i was like in this hotel but no it actually looks now that i think about it it looks like a kind of like a an apartment building or something but anyway we start driving and i said no i'm from seattle and he goes oh yeah you guys are gonna make the playoffs this year Thank you. And I said, I sure hope so. I said, Geno Smith is kind of overperforming. And he goes, yeah. And then I said, so who do you follow? I go, are you a football fan? He goes, yeah. I go, who do you follow? He goes, the greatest team in America. And I go, the Jets? I'm just trying to guess. I don't know which team is closest to this place in New York. And he goes, come on, the Giants. He was like, my son's middle name is Lawrence for Lawrence Taylor, the linebacker. I was like, okay. And then he proceeded to regale me with all of his best five-leg parlay bets he's ever made. And he remembered the specific scores of the games from, like, the 90s. Like, it was really something. But he said at some point that, he goes, if you gamble a lot like him, or if you're a degenerate gambler like I am. Now, I know a lot of, me and my gambling friends, we like to joke about being D-gens. so it's kind of a term for people that like betting and sometimes it's it's meant as a joke and sometimes it's not such a joke and i couldn't quite tell if this was a joke for this guy or if this was like he was trying to kind of like you know start a little gamblers anonymous meeting right there in the in the um uh hyundai santa fe but uh but it was it was an entertaining ride

00:11:14 - 00:11:35 | Speaker 2:

yeah i mean that i mean i wasn't there but it sounds like you know i i don't know if you know this luke but sometimes i dabble in self-deprecating humor as well like you know it's just kind of like like talking about drinking too much or weighing too much or whatever i could just see if he's that kind of personality like just being like oh if you're a degenerate gambler like me

00:11:35 - 00:12:55 | Speaker 1:

yes but then right which is why i sort of thought that he was joking because his car was in very nice condition he um was originally from the philippines he talked about making a lot of trips home so i was like okay he has i'm literally doing this math in my mind he had this he had this basketball bet that was like a seven leg parlay that was going to pay him fifteen thousand dollars if he hit it and only because chris paul led the phoenix suns over the philadelphia 70s see now i remember his he said i never bet on chris paul because chris paul always screws me over so i bet this whole huge parlay and i instead of i don't want to bet on paul and the sun so i bet on the sixers that's the only game they lost and he goes and i'm going to the philippines next week and that'd be some nice walking around money so i was like okay he has money for plane tickets that's good and for that means and for walking and the car was really nice like it was a nice condition it was a newer vehicle it was leather so i was i was really trying to assess probably because i don't want to assess my own life i was really trying to assess where my guy came down in terms of was that a joke or not because like i said he then proceeded to tell me about every different manner of gambling that exists and where he has done it at what places in new jersey etc and so anyway but it was i have to say i was the key demo for this conversation

00:12:55 - 00:13:01 | Speaker 2:

yes you really are you guys will be in a card room tonight i guarantee it what oh you know

00:13:01 - 00:14:39 | Speaker 1:

what he had been doing last night i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm all amped um he okay so last night there was that wild football game i was already asleep it's weird dude thursday night football's on so late here starts at 8 30 right or 8 20 i was like long asleep by the time baker mayfield led the rams on an improbable i woke up this morning to see all these people freaking out about the how that game ended but my my lyft driver he said um the lyfter i don't like saying my lyft driver the lift driver i don't own the person our lift driver thank you our community lift driver he he said um uh because one of my other jobs is i am a casino dealer but not at a casino but like a casino party so you you know he was like they basically we get hired we come and we set up the tables and then it's not for real money but but when you win when you win this kind of funny money you can then use it in an auction it's exactly like the thing that i actually talk about this week on the hey dummies video that's a little a little um forward pro and he said it was supposed to go until 8 30 because he goes i was supposed to be 6 30 8 30 but at 8 i realized oh i'm gonna start missing the football game if i keep doing this so i just shut it down at eight there's this one guy who's there who's like up six thousand dollars of funny money goes isn't this supposed to go until 8 30 and i said nope tonight is going till eight that was his dedication to getting home in time to watch two truly bad football teams the vegas raiders and los angeles rams play each other on thursday night football i see and so but wait hold on

00:14:39 - 00:14:48 | Speaker 2:

though i'm confused that was last that was last night so why is he driving you around this is still before the game he had time to close up his one job early this was this morning i was going

00:14:48 - 00:14:55 | Speaker 1:

this was this morning i see yeah okay i've lived a whole lifetime today that's the thing about this time difference. Wait, hold on. People take

00:14:55 - 00:15:15 | Speaker 2:

lifts in the morning? That sounds decadent. They do. Sometimes i've done it very hungover and then a tens boyfriend picked me up that's right who by the way i got to see after a recording of livewire recently and i again took the opportunity to apologize profusely for that was where the if you see some burbank say something to a burbank

00:15:15 - 00:15:19 | Speaker 1:

policy was first instituted as you poured yourself into the backseat of the

00:15:19 - 00:16:02 | Speaker 2:

kia or whatever the car was yeah i don't remember what the i mean uh not this morning this morning i I was in fine fettle, but that morning when that 10's significant other was driving me from point A to point B, it was not my finest morning. All that is to say I've already had a thoroughly entertaining Friday, but what I really want to know about Andrew, and this is sort of a test, if you will, do you remember the two questions that we didn't have time to talk about yesterday on the show when I started naming cities and what I thought their population might be? We pushed off two things you wanted to talk about, and I'm wondering, would you like to re-raise those topics now? Or do you even remember what those questions were?

00:16:02 - 00:16:11 | Speaker 1:

I do remember what they were. Oh, nice. One is very innocuous. Innocuous. Boy, am I out of it today? Innocuous. Innocuous. Thank you.

00:16:13 - 00:16:29 | Speaker 2:

Innocuous is what Aaron Rodgers refuses to get. innocuous is the vr headset that he wears in order yeah he does he's a really good quarterback in innocuous yeah right so much on the football field sorry lisa and our other listeners there

00:16:29 - 00:17:33 | Speaker 1:

in the greater green bay area um so here's the deal one of them is a very simple question i'm going to save that one for for number two number one i want to ask it more than ever now but i'm Also, I've been thinking about this now for more than 24 hours, and I even asked it to somebody else. I'm nervous asking this question to you on the air because I am so confused by something you said recently. I am so confused by it. And you said this in a somewhat private forum that I want to ask you about it, but I'm so confused by it that I'm worried that I'm going to expose you in some way. or that, I mean, maybe you're just using some slang that they use on TikTok that I don't understand. And so that's fine. I don't mind exposing myself as not getting jokes or knowing references, but I'm going to ask it to you here. And if you don't want to talk about it, or if this is like some sort of a, I don't know how it could be, but if it's some sort of a dirty reference or something, we'll just keep this whole thing out.

00:17:33 - 00:17:41 | Speaker 2:

I don't feel like we usually, even in our kind of like casual, friendly text chains, I don't feel like there's a lot of sexual jibber-jabber.

00:17:41 - 00:19:20 | Speaker 1:

There is very little sexual jibber-jabber in the fun-loving criminals text chain. Kirsten Schall. Yes. Okay. So I'm going to set this up. You might remember where I'm going with this as I set this up. If so, please just let it unfold. But on the sports text chain that we call the fun-loving criminals, whether there's six, seven of us on there, you, a couple of brothers, and some friends scattered around the country, um we were talking about the mariners off season and acquisitions and maybe the lack of some acquisitions for the team as we hope that next year is going to be a very successful year for the mariners there are some in our text chain who i think we all feel this way some more strongly than others that the the mariners should um open up the pocketbook a little bit more do some big spending in the off season really build a really winning team for next year and so people are kind of talking about that one of our friends durs is kind of complaining about the management being cheap that's been a complaint for the uh mariners ownership for as long as i've been a fan um i'm going to read some quotes here your friend and producer john um was joking he said you know they should have jumped on some uh shortstop deals on prime day or black friday or something and then durs says something about you know what was written up about how it looks like ownership is is fine just not spending any more for now and then you wrote quote it's a lemon chicken based lifestyle and it generates provable results sorry haters and i hey andrew yeah hey andrew

00:19:20 - 00:19:26 | Speaker 2:

seriously can we stop down because that is about some private bedroom experiences for i'm kidding I'm totally kidding.

00:19:29 - 00:19:51 | Speaker 1:

What? I texted Durs yesterday. I'm like, because I was going to bring it up with you on the show, and then we ran out of time. And then it was bugging me. It was in my brain. So I texted Durs. I'm like, what does Luke mean by this? And then he explained what John's jokes meant. And I'm like, no, I get John's jokes. But he's like, I don't know what the hell Luke's talking about. He didn't say it that harshly. But like, what does that mean?

00:19:51 - 00:20:25 | Speaker 2:

well what we have to do is we have to back the text chain up even a bit further okay all right you said you you were talking We were talking about the players that the Mariners currently have on the roster. And then our good friend, Kamero Kev, just dropped in this old newspaper ad for a 1-900 number you could call to presumably hear recorded baseball tips and tricks from one Wade Boggs, one of the greatest hitters for average in the history of Major League Baseball.

00:20:25 - 00:20:53 | Speaker 1:

Can I share some of this? Because I got it right in front of me. Wade will share his greatest moments in baseball. Hear Wade's key secret to success. Call 1-900-GET-WADE. Learn from one of the greatest. Hear Wade Boggs himself tell you about batting, fielding, base running, and diet slash exercise tips. Luke, I immediately went to YouTube to see if anybody had posted recordings of whatever this was, and I found nothing, unfortunately.

00:20:53 - 00:21:59 | Speaker 2:

I would pay. The ad list, $1.95 a minute. you have to be 18 or over or have your parents permission i would happily pay ten dollars a minute to listen to this wade boggs line for five i would pay fifty dollars to hear five minutes of wade boggs's pre-recorded baseball tips about batting and fielding okay would you pay that if you couldn't record it it was a one time only yeah yeah that would be enough for me i would just i would want to hear it i mean it'd be fun to play it on the show as well but the hearing of it would be enough for me now the thing about Wade Boggs was he was famously very superstitious he ate the same thing for dinner before every game and it was lemon chicken okay so when he is talking about base running and diet and exercise tips my response it's a lemon chicken based lifestyle and generates provable results sorry haters now sorry haters is a little that probably extra confusing but it was just a reference to the fact that wade boggs used to eat a lot of lemon chicken

00:21:59 - 00:22:32 | Speaker 1:

i see okay i i i never would have landed there i had no i thought okay this was a text that was errantly going somewhere this chain in which case i was wondering if i say this on the show will you be like oh what the heck that's why that's why becca didn't respond to my funny joke about something else like i thought you sent that to the wrong chain and then i was like maybe it's Maybe it is some weird TikTok slang. I mean, Luke, the young TikTok generation may refer to sex as lemon chicken based lifestyle. I have no idea. I've heard weirder things.

00:22:32 - 00:23:29 | Speaker 2:

That makes I mean, that doesn't make it sound unappealing. I'm a little surprised. I'm a bit surprised that between Durs and maybe Goodwin, although Goodwin's a lot younger than us. That's the thing I often forget because he's a very accomplished person that he's like 20 years younger than me or something. maybe not quite that but but much younger i guess i would have thought maybe some of the other old heads on the text chain would remember that being a thing because wade boggs was if you sort of were baseball obsessed in the 80s if you played little league uh the 80s and and part of the 90s i mean wade boggs was kind of the guy he was just larger than life and and and one of the things about him was that he liked to always eat the same meal before he played uh and so i kind of i feel like I knew a lot about Wade Boggs as a kid just because of how I'm trying to think who else during the Wade Boggs era he was to me maybe the most famous baseball player in America

00:23:29 - 00:25:23 | Speaker 1:

I remember the name you know I didn't watch baseball growing up which is weird because I also did have some baseball cards growing up which really just goes to show you how far I would go to assimilate and pretend to be a normal boy I don't know what the appeal was for me I would look at the back of the cards and they may as well have been blank I didn't know what any of those numbers meant. But it's funny now because, you know, Genevieve got me. I think I mentioned this on the show. Genevieve got me some just they sell like one dollar packs of old retro cards from kind of the junk card era at this flea market in Fremont or this antique mall in Fremont. So she bought me a few packs. And I really I know that there's nothing valuable in them at all, but I really enjoyed opening them up. And I was like, wow, I actually had this era's baseball cards back in the 90s. I didn't know what a baseball was. like it but i was just like well everybody's collecting baseball cards i want to be rich someday um i just googled um can i yeah go ahead have you landed on the christian science monitor article yes that's exactly what i want to tell you did you read you gotta you got to read the opening two graphs of this so i was i typed in wade boggs chicken it's hilarious you type in wade boggs chicken or lemon chicken or something and this is one of the most wonderful things you can get back from the internet an actual archived article from 1985 in the christian science monitor are they still doing their thing by the way it looks like it they have a subscription button up here uh written by john edward young i'll give the headline luke you can read the graphs chicken is a big hit With baseball's Wade Boggs. When baseball player Wade Boggs hears someone yell foul, he runs for home plate. His own home, to be exact, and a plate of chicken. Mr. Boggs, who spends the warm months of the year guarding the foul line for the Boston Red Sox, is usually rather taciturn. But when it comes to talking turkey or chicken, he just crows.

00:25:23 - 00:25:25 | Speaker 2:

Oh, God damn.

00:25:25 - 00:25:48 | Speaker 1:

I have to say, I love that this exists. i would i would have i would suggest some edits yeah i feel like i feel like the mentioning foul twice once you know f-o-w-l yeah once f-o-u-l slightly confuses the issue i'm with the i like the first use of of foul f-o-w-l but then you come back and use foul in the more conventional sense

00:25:48 - 00:25:57 | Speaker 2:

and i feel like it just confuses things and how do you feel about that this feels tortured to me he spends the warm months of the year guarding the foul line is that how you would ever like

00:25:57 - 00:27:16 | Speaker 1:

guarding the well and also when baseball player wade boggs hears someone yell foul he runs for home plate i'm trying to understand why people are yelling why would you ever so wait he runs for home plate when someone fouls a pitch off yeah what does that what does that mean and why are people yelling foul usually you just it's i feel like john edward young got kind of and i do this all the time by the way i feel like he got locked into an idea for this piece that really like it didn't really hold up it didn't work but he was he was darned if he was not going to include his like he observed that that both chicken and when you hit a baseball not in play they're both called foul and he really stuck to it but um yeah i guess i guess this goes on to kind of explain that wade boggs really really liked eating chicken and that was kind of his and then once it became a superstition that's the other thing is like um there's also a rumor about wade boggs and this is where i actually could have gone with the joke and maybe somebody else didn't did somebody else do that oh here we go yeah my brother david did or no he laughed at a joke that was made by the stew bot is one of the exercises from wade boggs crushing 57 beers on a cross-country flight you know there's this very famous story of wade boggs drinking 57 beers on a flight i got that see that's

00:27:16 - 00:27:27 | Speaker 2:

a joke i mean well i didn't mean to turn this into like that's a joke that i got from context Like, I didn't know that, but you can read that joke and be like, oh, Wade Boggs once drank 57 beers on a cross-country flight.

00:27:28 - 00:27:38 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I went with the – I trust the reader, Andrew, a little bit more than the stew bot does. I trust the reader to generate content on TBTL four days later.

00:27:39 - 00:27:53 | Speaker 2:

By the way, I want to give John Edward Young of the Christian Science Monitor a little bit of credit for showing some restraint. I just checked, and he does not ever say anything like, that may sound like a bird-brained idea. I really thought that was, I thought for sure that would be in here.

00:27:54 - 00:28:16 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, the Christian Science Monitor, that's such an interesting kind of media enterprise because, you know, they had Monitor Radio. Yep. Did you ever, like, interview for a gig? Did you know people? That was kind of, Monitor Radio was kind of public radio adjacent. I mean, it wasn't a public radio project, but a lot of the same folks that worked in public radio also would work over at Monitor Radio.

00:28:16 - 00:28:49 | Speaker 2:

I never applied for a job or anything, but I would use the monitor radio ISDN studios, which I want to say we're in D.C. They were in one of the maybe D.C., maybe New York, but I think D.C. Yeah. And so if we had guests that we couldn't get into NPR or whatever, we would send them to Christian Monitor. Yeah. Christian Science Monitor Radio. And like the thing about it is it was like a really I don't know if it still is, but like it seemed like a really good news source at the time, like reading the Christian Science Monitor. And yet it's, you know, associated with a with a, you know, not so mainstream religion.

00:28:50 - 00:29:02 | Speaker 1:

Exactly. It's a nonprofit news organization founded by the Church of Christ, comma, Scientist. Are those people scientists about Christ if you're an adherent to it?

00:29:03 - 00:29:24 | Speaker 2:

I'm not going to answer that question, but I will say there's a great episode of Omnibus all about this that I found fascinating. But I heard it too long ago to actually try to parrot anything back. That's why I would need to record that Wade Boggs telephone thing Because the second I'd get off the phone I wouldn't be able to remember any of the details You would You have what people call a brain Which must be nice for you

00:29:24 - 00:30:19 | Speaker 1:

Well, I have what people call what's left of a brain But yeah, the monitor has always been interesting Because the name itself is sort of kind of like Oh, okay, it's right there at the front Christian Science Monitor But the reporting, in my experience There may have been exceptions I don't know about the reporting was pretty reliable and pretty right down the middle actually like if my religion started a whole newspaper a lot of it would be like oh page a2 guess what we're not as crazy as you might think we are and i'm not saying that's not to be critical of you know if we have christian scientists in the listening audience it's just yeah we would use their reporters often for things like i would book a lot of christian science monitor writers for you know segments on npr so i i give them i give them credit for creating what was at least back when i paid more attention to it pretty decent you know journalistic um sort of source again we also worked for the mormon church technically you and i did for a while when

00:30:19 - 00:31:27 | Speaker 2:

they never messed with us so i don't know yeah the only it's funny i didn't feel a lot of that in that job i mean how long did i work for cairo radio all told like probably you know five now less than five years and and during that time i don't i didn't really feel the connection to the church very much except for like sometimes when you know all the corporate offices were in salt lake city and you know what what have you but like there was no there was no editorial guidance coming down from from above if you will um but this is such a small thing but i remember my first day at the radio station going into the little kitchenette area and instead of just having a thermos of coffee that said coffee and a thermos of coffee that said decaf they had a thermos of coffee that's a decaf and another thermos that said warning or caution caffeine and i remember like oh wow okay yeah so i wonder if there were it made me it was one of those things that made me think years ago there was some conversation about whether or not these companies would be allowed to have caffeine in the building probably and this was some sort of middle ground this song

00:31:27 - 00:33:11 | Speaker 1:

goes out to all the coffee lovers of the world that is that's a great point and i bet you because i don't think that the you know the seattle office of of you know cairo radio slash the sports station slash whatever the other conservative station was it's owned by bonneville media which is ultimately owned by the mormon church deseret right isn't it what the yeah deseret industries or whatever or like that's who i think they still have a 401k of mine um which i'll soon be cashing into uh i was i was texting with someone who listens to our show who was also doing a major home renovation and they were commiserating with how these projects tend to they have a way of really getting out of control and i said i really had the i asked myself the question the other day if if it's worth cashing in on my 401k to have a certain kind of tile i think these are the these are the hard questions i'm now asking myself but anyway no um but i think the answer is no but um but the i i feel like that policy around really being very clear about if there was caffeine and something that's just got to be a for all bonneville properties everywhere because i don't think we had any sort of unusually high um number of of folks who happen to be lds working at Cairo in fact I think when the rod father left I don't know if we had any folks there who were actively LDS like they sent somebody up from Salt Lake he became the program director he hired us so we got to give him credit on that he also fired us but you know that happens um but yeah I'm sure that that was just must have been a blanket policy at every every Bonneville property like if you're going to have coffee you got to really make sure it's clear for folks that are looking to avoid caffeine in their life and to me it seemed like such a

00:33:11 - 00:33:40 | Speaker 2:

hold over again like i'm filling in all the blanks here and i may be wrong about it because eventually like i think they replaced those with like a keurig or something more modern and and that signage went away and so to me it just sort of felt like i looked at that sign i thought at some point somebody was in a tense meeting fighting for the right to have caffeinated coffee in these buildings and and somehow they came up with this and then probably years passed before i ended up seeing those thermi which is how i call this is what i refer to when i you know what's funny is

00:33:40 - 00:33:50 | Speaker 1:

I've never really thought of those. You're right. They would be a – so they were the kind where you put the coffee and then it keeps the coffee warm and you press down that, like, button on top?

00:33:50 - 00:34:00 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, because – and then there were, like, coffee pots next to it because it was kind of just up to us to make a new pot of coffee. Now, I was the type of guy who was often making coffee. I feel like you're the type of guy who probably was not often making coffee. I could be wrong about that.

00:34:00 - 00:34:09 | Speaker 1:

Well, we have their makers and takers in the Bonneville kitchen environment, and I would have been more in the – you know, I made it sometimes. Sure.

00:34:09 - 00:34:15 | Speaker 2:

i just like puttering i mean that wasn't even was there was their worst coffee oh it was so bad

00:34:15 - 00:34:27 | Speaker 1:

it was so bad remarkably bad coffee i have to i mean it was no again peace and love to our listeners who are lds but it was like coffee made by a mormon it was coffee made by someone who'd

00:34:27 - 00:35:17 | Speaker 2:

never had coffee it was so bad it really yeah it really was and it was a topic of conversation and in fact i remember like there were some i don't know polls or something that went around via email in the building when the HR manager was really trying to grapple with this idea that there was only terrible... In fact, you probably didn't drink the coffee much. No joke, you were probably always drinking coffee from Grand Central Bakery or whatever you were coming in with because that stuff was... I'm not a coffee snob, I promise you. I am fine with just black drip coffee. This stuff was rough. It was... like punishing you for wanting to drink coffee it really was it was uh it was brutal then i just started stealing from michael avenatti marketplace down in the basement yeah i mean that would be ironic do we think michael avenatti must have been on cairo at some point you know he by the way just

00:35:17 - 00:35:25 | Speaker 1:

got sentenced to like serious jail time i don't know who that is i think you're referring to avanti market which they opened down i am i was making a joke because it's like the name of the

00:35:25 - 00:36:06 | Speaker 2:

guy who stole the money from his client stormy daniels and also ran tully's coffee into the ground right okay yes i didn't know that and was a he was a real thorn in the side of trump which was great but it turns out he's also a uh very shady person himself and uh was stealing money from his clients and and uh and was trying to extort nike and all this stuff and he just got sentenced to like i don't know it was like 12 15 years but i was just thinking i wonder if michael Avenatti ever went to Cairo to do an interview and then at some point he got hungry for some string cheese or beef jerky and then he went down to the Avanti market and then we would have an Avenatti and an Avanti kind of situation. I'm just wondering if that ever happened.

00:36:06 - 00:36:10 | Speaker 1:

I'm sure it did happen. He was on the Medved show and

00:36:10 - 00:36:16 | Speaker 2:

that would make sense. Well, no, he wouldn't have been because he was very much not Team Trump.

00:36:16 - 00:36:20 | Speaker 1:

And neither is Medved. Remember? That's why Medved lost his thing.

00:36:20 - 00:36:21 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, maybe you're right.

00:36:21 - 00:37:34 | Speaker 1:

Yeah. So the Avanti market was basically, I don't know, at some point during our tenure down there, there was a little kitchenette in the downstairs level of the radio station. And this is like a little, this is a building that houses three different radio stations. And so they, you know, they hired some company, Avanti, to turn this little kitchenette area into like a little mini store where you could buy snacks. There were a couple of coolers in there if you wanted to buy, like, milk and cereal, you know, little packages of cereal. There was orange juice. There was fruit. Again, all kinds of snacks and stuff. And, I mean, Luke, I mean, I've said this a million times, and it's not that entertaining. So my apologies for repeating myself. But it irked me so much. They put little cameras up there to avoid theft, which is fine. I mean, John Curley worked there. I watched him walk in and steal things all the time. but then they put up a sign that said this area is being monitored for your protection and i just thought that irked me so much no this area is being monitored so we don't steal shit which is fine and fair because people steal shit but what do i think that dory monson is going to come out with a blackjack and hit me over the head with it while i'm while i'm getting some

00:37:34 - 00:37:58 | Speaker 2:

If he did and they didn't have a camera, then, you know, you're out of luck. So, no, I mean, you're living in my world. These are the things that annoy me regularly are times when something is presented as for my benefit when really it's for the company's benefit. And, like, and that's – I'm okay with that. I just would rather that things were a little bit – people were more upfront about that stuff.

00:37:58 - 00:37:58 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly.

00:37:58 - 00:38:08 | Speaker 2:

But that's a harangue that I've been on far too many times for the listeners to maintain interest in that. So I will go ahead and if you – wait, you had one other question. Yeah, I did.

00:38:08 - 00:38:33 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, this one's much more simple, and I think I know the answer to it. This is almost more like a – Broil the lemon chicken. Was that the question? It was. Like, yeah, how do you prepare it? By the way, I think today, Luke, I realized this morning, I think today might be turkey stock day for me. I have had all the post-Thanksgiving trimmings and clippings and bones in the freezer.

00:38:33 - 00:38:35 | Speaker 2:

You're going straight up Dukakis on it.

00:38:35 - 00:39:08 | Speaker 1:

I'm thinking about doing that because I can get done with this show, then start the simmering and then come down here and finish my work and just let that thing simmer for like seven hours or something. Here's my question or possibly a PSA for you. um i saw some people on slack um kind of being psyched that you accepted their invitation for them to follow you on instagram and i was surprised that you have your instagram locked down by that did you know it's an option to turn that off or are you purposely trying to

00:39:08 - 00:40:21 | Speaker 2:

control who can follow you and who cannot i didn't realize that oh my gosh can we do this Can we take a quick break? Because this actually is a slightly larger, longer conversation that I've been meaning to have with you or anything I've been meaning to tell you about. It's not specific to the is my account locked, but other things around Instagram that I'm I'm I'm just I'm but a babe in the woods when it comes to the Instagram social media platform. So I will answer that question right after this short break. Hey, let's thank some daily donors. These wonderful, generous, supportive folks are keeping this whole thing rolling. With their donations Folks like Abigail Kirkland Of Phoenix, Arizona I'm so trained And we've talked about this Costco thing a lot lately I don't know why I'm so trained with the name Kirkland That I assumed Abigail Kirkland might be in Kirkland, Washington All that would be a little on the nose It would be like me moving to Burbank, California

00:40:21 - 00:40:24 | Speaker 1:

You know who lives in Kirkland though? Abigail Phoenix

00:40:24 - 00:41:52 | Speaker 2:

And I tend to mix those two up I apologize to both Abigails. I'm also doing a slight bit of tap dancing here, Andrew, because I, you know how my email has been being kind of weird, which is karmically my punishment. All the times that I lied about my email being weird just because I had forgotten to respond to someone and then I blamed it on my email being super weird. Karmically, now I have a debt to pay where my email is legitimately being weird. So you sent me this list, and it came into my phone email, but not my laptop email. Oh, so the format's going to be weird. Well, it's just smaller, and I am a person who can't see as well as I used to, and I forgot to bring my glasses on this trip, Andrew. So I have been squinting a lot, and so what I was doing as I was talking there was I was making a screenshot of the donor so I could enlarge it because I couldn't just enlarge it from the email, But if it was a photo, I could then enlarge it. And now it is enlarged, and I see that Kai Flamini is in Moorstown, New Jersey. That's not far from you, maybe. I don't think that's very far at all. I could probably be at Kai's house in time for dinner. So what do we have in? Lemon chicken. Lemon chicken. You know what I still do have that's working, though? That thing. Thank you very much, Kai. Also, thanks to Jenna Munoz of Friday Harbor, Washington. Are you kidding me?

00:41:52 - 00:41:56 | Speaker 1:

On a Friday, too. We don't plan this, people. Sometimes this just happens.

00:41:56 - 00:42:14 | Speaker 2:

We don't. Sometimes the universe just drops a little something in our lap. Friday Harbor is also spectacularly beautiful. It's just a little slice of heaven up there in the San Juans. Thank you, Jenna. Thanks also to Jeremiah Cleveland of Brooklyn, New York.

00:42:14 - 00:42:21 | Speaker 1:

Now you know who lives in Cleveland, Jeremiah Brooklyn. That's exactly it.

00:42:21 - 00:42:37 | Speaker 2:

I was tempted to zig when you were going to zag there, but I decided to just go with the flow and go with that joke. Thank you, Jeremiah. We really appreciate it. That is interesting. Two donors today whose last names are cities. That they don't live in.

00:42:37 - 00:42:38 | Speaker 1:

Yeah.

00:42:38 - 00:42:38 | Speaker 2:

That's right.

00:42:39 - 00:42:46 | Speaker 1:

The jokes really write themselves. I mean, it's just, I mean, from reading, reading the words Friday Harbor on a Friday. I mean, what a world.

00:42:47 - 00:45:40 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. Thanks also to Julie Higgins, who's in Portland, Oregon, a town where I love to pay rent. Andrew live there sometimes rent there all the time. I was having that thought the other day. I was like the last couple of months I've just been out here hither and yawn. yawn and i've been like i what why do i have this apartment that i don't have not been at very much of the time then don't whatever you do don't start thinking about how much you're paying a day for your mortgage or your rent on like two weeks that you're not there i get why people want to airbnb their stuff out because it's like i mean i wouldn't very private a lot of lemon chicken related things in one of my closets that i don't like to have open stay out of the lemon chicken drawer stay out of the lemon chicken uh thanks julie thanks also to sharon hagerty who's in tacoma washington a lovely lovely town as well hey thanks to all of our donors today for making tbtl possible we certainly could not do this without you hello and welcome to top story um just to answer your question andrew about the instagram thing And me having people have to get permission or I have to confirm that they can follow me. I didn't even realize that was a setting that I had on my Instagram account until, I don't know, a day ago. And I've been meaning to change it. And I haven't. But the larger issue is I don't know how anything works on Instagram. And by that, I mean, I don't know how people put little cartoon writing on their photos. i don't know how people add music how people make a story um or how they decide like there's so much learned i don't know kind of sort of visual language associated with instagram i don't know how to do any of it because i'm just trying to use it to tweet and so what i i was uh do you remember our friend cassie this is a i think she was a 10 years ago i don't know if she listens anymore. But I think you follow her on Instagram. Oh, Cassie. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. In San Francisco. And yeah. And she, you know, hit me up on Instagram and said, oh, hey, you know, welcome to Instagram or like it's fun to see over here. And we were just catching up a little bit. And I was like, yeah, I go. The problem is I don't know how to do anything on this platform. So what I know how to do is post a picture and then I write a caption and that is effectively a tweet for me. But there's so much other stuff on there and people do all kinds of cool, creative stuff. I don't know how to do any of it. I didn't even realize that I had a setting there that was causing it. So people had to get I thought that's how everyone gets anyone following them on Instagram. You have to say you can follow me.

00:45:41 - 00:45:46 | Speaker 1:

Do you want to know? I mean, not I'm not offering to walk you through.

00:45:46 - 00:45:48 | Speaker 2:

I'm sure that one I can figure out in a matter of that.

00:45:48 - 00:46:43 | Speaker 1:

But I mean, the other stuff, like, because I don't usually mess around with a lot of stickers and animation. and stuff i mean i would know how to do it if i needed to and there's a million filters and you can i think also download other filters if you want to but like i don't really go in for that kind of stuff so it's but i mean you could easily probably just sit down with like your daughter i mean i i don't know does adelaide use instagram i mean there are people who could sit down with you oh i could sit down with her daughter speaking of you were telling me about an app that she introduced you to that seems to be kind of popular now where you take a photo of both yourself and your surroundings at the same time. We got one thing wrong about that, which is both photos are taken at the exact same time because you were saying that like you could take one and then turn your phone around and then take another or something. But we got a note from a listener saying, no, the whole thing is like this app, you hold your phone out in front of you and it both takes a photo of what's in front of you and a selfie at the same time.

00:46:44 - 00:46:55 | Speaker 2:

Ah, okay. I guess I probably missed that little detail. But I do think that Be Real app is a cool idea. I would like to get into that, Would you be real my friend I'm not a big selfie guy

00:46:55 - 00:46:57 | Speaker 1:

I mean I would download it I guess

00:46:57 - 00:48:13 | Speaker 2:

Remember we talked you could also just not be in the selfie It could just be It could be both Things your camera is seeing Neither of which is you Here's the paneling behind me And here's the whatever in front of me But I do think that that's a very Very clever idea For a way to stay engaged You know socially And the other thing that I will say is that the selfies i've only looked at this one time and it was on addy's phone at my brother's like wedding celebration so my experience with it is limited i don't like have an account or anything but what i also liked about it was it was many of the least flattering least posed selfies i've ever seen and that was kind of nice it wasn't like and again maybe if addy had a different kind of friend circle i'd be seeing something different but it wasn't the kind of thing where somebody people had like posed themselves in the cutest position with the coolest backdrop etc it really did feel much more verite just like just a like a literal snapshot of your life i'm here it's a little blurry that's that's the picture of me over there is the picture of the restaurant i'm in or whatever it felt it felt quite sort of documentary to me like hey this is really what this person's doing not i spent an hour setting up a ring light so i looked my cutest yeah although like you say

00:48:13 - 00:48:18 | Speaker 1:

I'm sure there are people who do that, of course, as well. Like, they go to exotic places with the water. Sure, yes.

00:48:18 - 00:48:22 | Speaker 2:

I just don't think that's the crew that Addy kicks it with. Yeah, exactly.

00:48:22 - 00:49:08 | Speaker 1:

And the reason I say that is because it comes back around to these apps are kind of what you want them to be within the strictures of the apps themselves, right? So that's why when you say you don't know how to make the dynamic text or whatever you were saying that you see other people do, like, does it just sort of bother you? This is a real question because, I mean, this is sort of true for me, too. like when i see people goofing around with these filters and one time i was just kind of like what are these filters like and so i just i remember laying in bed in my old apartment one day like sleeping in late and just like being like i'm gonna figure out this filter thing once and for all and sort of figuring it out and not doing anything with it because i don't want to take a selfie of myself with shrek horns like that's not something that i'm interested in doing but i i did feel like i should at least know and i don't know why i should know but i felt like i should

00:49:08 - 00:49:15 | Speaker 2:

You, as a sexy Shrek, dancing to Material Goyle behind a skyscraper.

00:49:16 - 00:49:24 | Speaker 1:

That sounds like a very specific reference. Those are all Wade Boggs references. Okay, gotcha. God, it was a different time. God, it was a similar time.

00:49:26 - 00:52:01 | Speaker 2:

To answer your question about do I want to use that stuff or does it matter to me or why does it bother me, I guess it's that I feel like I can't get away from the feeling that I'm just wishing this was Twitter for me. And so although, you know what, I will say this when I post something. Here's what I guess the problem for me is. I feel like I seem very, very like out of step. Like sometimes I'll see people of a certain age posting on TikTok and not like a cute, like, you know, maybe older person who's doing comedy or something, which I find so charming. I find people that are probably about my age posting things on TikTok, and I will be honest with you, it causes me to cringe a little bit because it's just not – it just doesn't feel like it's intuitive or instinctive to folks of a certain age. I feel like I am that on Instagram now because I don't know how to do any of the things and because all I'm really doing is posting like a photograph and then I'm writing some kind of observation about it, maybe somewhat jokely or whatever, even somewhat earnestly, which is really not my move. like i i was uh when the plane was taking off i think from portland going to dallas because i went from portland to dallas to columbus the other day we it was just cloudy in portland then we got above the cloud line and then like boom there's mount rainier and it was incredibly beautiful and but it was also very cool how this like the clouds were so kind of solid and consistent it was like a it looked like um you know uh the cloud city or something where lando lives and so i think i took a picture and i said like i just really like that i get to live in a moment of time when this is possible because to be above the clouds yeah like to be in this exact position looking at a mountain people have looked at mountains you know since we were on this planet but to be able to see it from 10 000 feet in the air in a metal tube that's flying and for that just to be a wednesday it's kind of cool and it's also I tend to forget that you know we have we exist in an extremely narrow sliver of like human time on this planet you know 99.99999% of the time on this planet was not doing this and I live in the time when it is happening and I thought it was kind of cool so I put a picture up that's like a more earnest thing than I would put up on Twitter I guess I'm just trying to figure out what my deal on Instagram is or if I should just recognize it for what it is which is a different medium it does not come it does not come natural naturally to me and i feel like i'm doing it because i have something that i want to be tweeting but i don't do that anymore so i'm trying to i'm trying to force that kind of square peg into the round hole of instagram and the whole thing leaves me feeling a little bit i don't know just

00:52:01 - 00:52:44 | Speaker 1:

kind of unsatisfied in a way yeah i i everything you're saying makes sense to me but i don't know what to tell you and i i mean that quite i'm not just saying like oh don't know what to tell you bud figure it out but like it's interesting like that you miss twitter a lot instagram like we've discussed is not twitter it's just not going to scratch the same itch i mean if you have thoughts here's the deal like maybe and again you're not asking me to solve this problem for you this is an issue that i think i have sometimes i was texting with somebody who's kind of going through a tough time and i don't know i feel like it was my instinct to be like well here i can help in this way you know and sometimes people don't sometimes people aren't asking for help they just want you to be there for them so anyway I'm not trying to I assume that at all

00:52:44 - 00:52:46 | Speaker 2:

times which is why I never help anyone

00:52:46 - 00:52:54 | Speaker 1:

which is why oh that time that I had a piano on my chest and I was yeah I really thought I was breathing my last breath and you were just like I don't want to insert myself

00:52:54 - 00:52:58 | Speaker 2:

here gosh I'm sorry let me know if there's anything I can do

00:52:58 - 00:53:46 | Speaker 1:

as you're already inside a safe that I then open i could hear you on you from the lift let me know if there's anything i can do yeah exactly um but anyway um it does sort of sound like maybe stories is more along the lines of like because i feel like if there's something on instagram that is it's more similar to twitter it's the more ephemeral thoughts that people are like kind of typing out using the text function in their stories posting it to a story but then the thing is a story only lasts 24 hours that's why i say that It's not like Twitter where, hey, I have a thought, and I'm going to post it, good or bad, hot take, cold take, whatever, and then at least people have the ability to then start a conversation from there. Well, that's why I'm only posting. Yeah, people can reply to you, but they can't create a conversation.

00:53:47 - 00:53:53 | Speaker 2:

Right, because they can't – I mean, could they repost it on their page? Is that a thing on Instagram? Sort of.

00:53:53 - 00:54:02 | Speaker 1:

If you tag somebody in it, then they can share it. if not then they would have to screen cap it and then i don't know what the kind of um bro code is

00:54:02 - 00:54:20 | Speaker 2:

around that kind of stuff andrew this has actually been useful for me i feel like it would i'd be able to take this advice from you sort of more seriously if you had shrek horns on sexy shrek horns yes material goyle god i wish you were on tiktok more because then we could share that love

00:54:20 - 00:55:00 | Speaker 1:

language well there's there's one thing too about tiktok like i know how you know i have a tiktok login i will you know because people send tiktoks a lot like i i know how to be on the platform i follow a handful of people on the occasion i open it up i you know i get some laughs out of the out of the few folks i follow um but i'm just not compelled to open it much and then when i do that to me is like where i see people doing like the split videos and the okay i'm duetting this or whatever like i know i could sit down and think i have again i have no desire to do any of that It's not a platform that I feel drawn to. Like I have something to say or do that I want to put on TikTok. And I think that's fine.

00:55:00 - 00:55:14 | Speaker 2:

i don't feel any i don't feel any guilt or pressure to do that like whatever yeah but i do sort of feel like well i should know how i mean i work in media you know what i mean so i just sort of feel like i should know how and that's where maybe i don't know if you're feeling any

00:55:14 - 00:56:42 | Speaker 1:

of that too um the thing with me no i don't i just assume that our colleague john sklaroff or may will handle it honestly i feel like i'm i'm at the point where there's no i there is no new learning really for me in this brain it's only trying to retain wade bugs related facts and i'm gonna need a lot of help from a lot of really awesome people uh when it comes to any kind of new tools and techniques for promoting the program but i guess the thing that's interesting for me about tiktok is which is different than twitter when i when i was on twitter i enjoyed reading it mostly i enjoyed seeing other people's funny things and then it also motivated me to want to be part of the conversation and to also try to have a hit tweet i could not have less interest in putting myself on tiktok considering i look at tiktok for probably a minimum of an hour and a half a day like it is definitely become my deep probably even more so now that i'm not on twitter my default self-soothing let me just turn my brain off for a while and kind of stare at this thing has become TikTok and yet I would sooner die than post a video of myself doing anything on there and I don't know why that is maybe it's because it'd have to be my face I mean typically it's somebody's actually on camera and when I was on Twitter it's not my face I don't know what it is but I can't think of anything that I enjoy more and have less of a desire to be a part of than TikTok

00:56:42 - 00:58:16 | Speaker 2:

Luke I'm going to be the first to say this it's an interesting time to be alive I'm picturing you with Shrek horns Yeah please I'll give you a moment Got them there Aren't there like Shrek freckles too Shrekles or something There's something sort of sparkly around the Shrek stuff I think But like We live in a time where You're getting entertainment from This app for 90 minutes a day Let's say Back in the day You could sit and enjoy a TV show for 90 minutes a day but there's no pressure to create a tv show you know it's a really good point it's just like that way like there's because this is being you know created by people like us meaning like non-professionals in a lot of cases we're like well yeah this is what we do but like i also think it's sort of okay like if you're just somebody who wants to be on instagram or tiktok or whatever and just use it as a way and that's kind of what goes back to to our differences in using twitter too like i told you like i'll tweet out things every now and then that i think are funny or an observation or if i come across an old commercial on a vhs tape that i've posted to youtube i might want to share that with like 40 people or something like that's fun but honestly if i had to give up twitter um the harder part would be the in the the reading part like the the the entertainment and information it provides me not the other way around you know um and so i think being on these platforms and just using it as a way to intake information is fine too right like we don't have to all be

00:58:16 - 00:58:49 | Speaker 1:

creators yeah i mean you're absolutely right and i hadn't i really hadn't thought of it that way that like there's this notion that because we all can create something that it's now a much more of a sort of um i don't know a give and take a kind of like there was no symbiotic relationship between me and married with children i wasn't ever watching it thinking god when am i gonna make my sitcom about a guy who jams his hands down his pants for some reason a lot of al bundy references on the show the last must be because i'm entering by the way how old do you think ed o'neill was

00:58:49 - 00:59:15 | Speaker 2:

while portraying al bundy do you think younger than us do you know this off the top of your head can you look no can you look it up while i try to guess oh god damn it luke i think you just did me bad because you're right i did you dirty i think he was probably i'm 46 i think that he was Probably. I'm going to put him at 40 at the oldest when he played Al Bundy, but I could even I'm going to say 40.

00:59:16 - 00:59:32 | Speaker 1:

Now, I am trying to I'm on Ed O'Neill's Wikipedia page, so I don't know if anyone has actually broken out how old was Ed O'Neill at the time that he was filming Married with Children. But this is something we can know because he was born in 1946.

00:59:33 - 00:59:52 | Speaker 2:

Okay, well, the show aired from 87 to 97, so... Well, so he was 41 at the beginning. He was 41. Okay, whew. Although, really, that was so early on. I bet you, like, 1990 was probably the heyday of that, so he was, like, 43, probably, in the way that we picture him.

00:59:53 - 00:59:57 | Speaker 1:

But that's still younger than me by, like, three years. That's what hurts.

00:59:57 - 00:59:57 | Speaker 2:

Yeah.

00:59:58 - 00:59:59 | Speaker 1:

That's what really gets you.

00:59:59 - 01:00:00 | Speaker 2:

How old...

01:00:00 - 01:01:28 | Speaker 1:

was he in cocoon all right we didn't get to you know what it's fine we didn't get to goblin mode we don't need to i said in the promo it's basically a it's basically just a i don't know something to get people talking about the oxford english dictionary also i guess my problem with it is that goblin mode is two words i don't know how it's the word of the year it's a hyphenated maybe um i figured i had the article now i'm just gonna start doing the topic i had the article open a minute ago they were it was there was basically these alex lexicographers or whatever lexiconographers uh the people that were running it we had like three different options one was goblin mode one was hashtag i stand with and i forget what the third one was they honestly all just kind of felt stupid well just like a stretch for it to be a word um i mean i don't really I don't mind people, in fact you know what I feel like I was a proponent of goblin mode before we had those words for it because I did that whole stupid commentary about working from bed and the idea of goblin mode is you realize you're in bed you've been there maybe for longer than is typical for you you've got like discarded you know fast food bags around and you've just been kind of hibernating and cocooning and you've just been in goblin mode well I've been advocating that lifestyle for years I just didn't have a catchy term like Goblin Mode for it.

01:01:28 - 01:01:33 | Speaker 2:

You know, I didn't even know what Goblin Mode was until you just said that. And I'm kind of reading along here on CNN.

01:01:34 - 01:01:37 | Speaker 1:

Did it say what I stand with Goblin Mode was the third one?

01:01:38 - 01:02:35 | Speaker 2:

Metaverse, which is also like that's that's, you know, complicated because Meta is now, you know, a private company. That's, you know, the Facebook company. So, yeah, well, I'm glad they didn't go with that. But also a hashtag I stand with. I and listen, I know. I mean listen I'm just being an old cranky man right now I don't give a shit but um the idea of hashtags being offline never made sense to me like they don't totally make sense I mean they make sense in some context online but then the way people started using them didn't seem to make a lot of sense and then people would go to protests and they would put hashtags on their sign and unless they were trying to actually direct people towards a hashtag where there's like a lot of energy around a cause or something that makes sense yeah but i swear people are just making up hashtags but they put a hashtag in front of it because that's our culture like it just didn't make sense like it's a sign i can't click on it right hashtag is just an organizing yeah it's just

01:02:35 - 01:02:52 | Speaker 1:

a tool for grouping together a bunch of things that are of a similar kind of topic it's not a letter or a word it'd be like a comma maybe that's a bad example i don't know what's what's similar to a hashtag in terms of just functionality it would be like if we were all going around suddenly

01:02:52 - 01:03:10 | Speaker 2:

and saying hey what's your name i'm at andrew you just don't need it irl it makes sense online exactly um so there we go we did that topic that's my coolest moment by the way people are like wow he's so young and hip right now love that was actually i think you've actually said

01:03:10 - 01:04:29 | Speaker 1:

a lot of d's the thing about we don't feel like we have to make a tv show because we're watching tv I really hadn't thought of that before. All right, let's do a little music for your weekend. Speaking of topics that have fallen slightly into disfavor with us, the hosts of the show, or I should say segments. Oh, yeah, we haven't done this in a while. We haven't done this in a few weeks, but I'm raring to go, except for the fact that I am kind of worried that maybe the song that I'm going to suggest has already been played on the show once, so you'll have to remind me. But first, let's start with – actually, no. Can we start with my song so that if I've got to pick another one, i can do it yeah that sounds good now i haven't looked ahead so tell me tell me what it is here i heard a song recently that i um hadn't heard before it sounded kind of old-timey but had a cool groove to it and so i shazammed it as i often do and realized oh it's actually a song by mark ronson featuring anderson pock and it's called then there were two it just doesn't ring a bell to me that that would stand out to me i think and i i think it might even be off of like the soundtrack of like some kind of animated project that i was unaware of like um so there are layers to this but i just know that you love anderson pox so much that i was like oh is this something that andrew has noticed and mark ronson has a good track record

01:04:29 - 01:04:34 | Speaker 2:

too right kind of like producer extraordinaire and yeah i'm a big i like a lot of his stuff he

01:04:34 - 01:05:37 | Speaker 1:

produced the whole amy winehouse record back in black which oh right of course they had a huge connection yeah or back to black i think it's back to black yeah because back of black was acdc which ronson i don't think had much of a say in not he did a little bit of the later mastering remastering of um mistress for christmas yeah that was off of the razor's edge luke come on you're embarrassing all of us i apologize Apologize. We were so close to getting through the whole week without me saying something embarrassing. And here in the gloaming of this week's programming, I'm ruining it. Yeah. Mistress for Christmas was on back in black. Get a load of this guy. So this song, it just slaps because they're both super talented music people. So can we hear a little bit of this song? Then there were two. I'm excited. It's one of those things where I can't even remember if Mark Ronson is even singing in it or if it's just Anderson .Paak. Sometimes when you're a super producer You get to be Your name is on the song featuring someone else Even though the someone else seems to be doing the most of the singing I don't get it

01:05:37 - 01:05:44 | Speaker 2:

Yeah a little bit of background here So this is off of the soundtrack Spies in Disguise And it's the original soundtrack I don't really know what that is

01:05:44 - 01:05:47 | Speaker 1:

They were in deep disguise because no one's ever heard of that movie

01:05:47 - 01:06:00 | Speaker 2:

And it was It's like Mark Ronson presents The soundtrack to Spies in Disguise So it's kind of like that's what he does He gets musicians together and he's just kind of a super producer, right?

01:06:00 - 01:06:04 | Speaker 1:

I guess so. This song is good, though. I like it. Can we take a little listen to this?

01:06:05 - 01:07:10 | Speaker 3:

And then there were two Right now we have to stop somewhere How far to go, I don't care Just when I thought you'd leave me blue You'd come around out of nowhere Just when I thought you'd leave me there You came back cool My company is leaving the minute that you tell me we gotta move Cause without you, I'm a sloucher But with you, I'm ambitious Such a master when I'm not near you But together we can't stop looking near us Right now we have to start somewhere How far to go, I don't care Just when I thought you'd leave it I'm starting to realize why I didn't see this movie.

01:07:10 - 01:07:47 | Speaker 1:

I think it stars DJ Khaled. Oh, really? Oh, I thought it might be a kid's movie. I love this. It's good, right? Yes. Yeah. That is so good. Yeah, I don't know I'm sure some of our listeners Spies in Disguise does appear to be Probably aimed at children's animated film One of the voices is Will Smith Rashida Jones is in it DJ Khaled is the voice of somebody Or something called Ears So I guess it kind of I missed it when it came out But if Mark Ronson did the whole soundtrack I bet you there's actually probably more than one song On there that I would really enjoy

01:07:47 - 01:10:45 | Speaker 2:

I'm going to play a song for you here Luke that unfortunately i already hate myself for trying to set this up but i don't know any other way to do it because here's what i'm going to do i'm going to start by hitting um the uh let's see which one of these did i want to play oh let's go with this one i'm going to play on this now i'm going to talk over a little bit okay so what we're listening to right now is off of a playlist that is on spotify and it is called I mean, I'm sure you already know this. It's called Cosmogonic's Arcade Fire pre-show playlist. I told you I went to see the Arcade Fire with Genevieve a few weeks ago, right? And in between the opening act and Arcade Fire, a DJ came out to the little stage that was set up kind of in the middle of the arena. And his name was Cosmogonic, G-O-N-I-K. I think of it more as a Cosmic Gumball. cosmic gonko um i don't know what i'm doing there um but yes so and i just loved his vibe he basically just what so this song that we're hearing right now is called sabi lulu which is actually this is where things get more complicated this is a song that cosmogonics duo actually made themselves he's a musician himself and he's in a duo called quarto mundo and he was playing some of his own stuff like this i think that goes on for quite some time so i'll pull it back down um and then he was also just playing a mix of all kinds of stuff from around the world um and just finding stuff he even had like a paul mccartney like a weird paul mccartney song that like somehow fit in this whole vibe that he was creating for like the 45 minutes or whatever it was in between sets it was so great and i remember writing down or i think i took a photo of his name like cosmogonic I'm going to look into this guy and not only did I find some of his work he actually is on spotify and he's put together this playlist of literally the songs that he's playing in between the sets while they're on tour and this whole playlist luke i really think you would enjoy this like as far as just a vibe setter is concerned this everything in it just you're playing feels really up my alley how do you spell his name so it's cosmo just like cosmo kramer c-o-s-m-o and then the last name is g-o-n-i-k i may have misspoke before but let's listen to a little bit since this does tend to be kind of mostly instrumental if you don't mind let me just

01:10:45 - 01:10:59 | Speaker 2:

also like here's the first song on the on the playlist too and again this is from his little duo so he's also the musician here under uh cuarto mundo he just said something about lemon chicken

01:10:59 - 01:13:23 | Speaker 1:

it's a lifestyle it's nice right oh my gosh yes i started to like zone out in the best sort of way i love that i was just like staring at yonkers the sun's going down here or starting to anyway that's kind of the light is sort of that golden hour listening to some cosmic gano uh that was good um all right the listener suggestion for music for your weekend comes from listener garrison who's suggesting a song by the singer sierra ferrell who i am a big fan of addy actually turned me on to her work um i think she's called like i like your bones on tiktok is what she plays under but she's uh sierra ferrell is is uh i think really having some great success in the music industry seems to be playing a lot of really fun really sold out shows so garrison says this sierra feral cover of years is playing on repeat as the brisk mornings are more frequent by the way this was sent like a month ago so i think the brisk mornings are kind of the default setting now um they're great vocals fantastic guitar and fiddle work and a pulse of simple percussion and chimes a chorus that you'll undoubtedly sing to yourself the rest of the day the entire john anderson covers album which is called something borrowed something new is full of new, mostly new bluegrass and folk musicians recording classics. It also opens up with a John Prine cover of 1959. Now, I don't know who John Anderson is, to be honest with you. So this is Sierra Farrell, who I do know of and really like covering somebody named John Anderson and doing the song Years. So that's how we're going to wrap things up on this Friday. Thanks, everybody, for listening. We'll be back here on Monday with more Imaginary Radio for you. Until then, have a great weekend, stay safe, take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall.

01:13:23 - 01:13:24 | Speaker 2:

And good luck to all.

01:13:48 - 01:14:26 | Speaker 3:

friends they come and go again don't look back in sorrow just hope you see tomorrow those years everybody knows you gotta let them go every time I roll by like tears I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was.

01:14:27 - 01:14:33 | Speaker 1:

Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me. Power out.

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