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Hi guys, this is Annie in San Luis Obispo, California and I just listened to the episode the day before the ice storm that hits Seattle and I'm just really stressed out because Luke is talking about how he needs to drive to Seattle and the Cobras are maybe going to do a show together. he's trying to get snow chains maybe he has like a very specific window to be able to get presents so addy and the rest of the folks don't get coal and my partner and i were just like cracking up last night because we know what happens but we don't actually know what happens to you guys so um i see that there are additional shows so it obviously does go on but is genevieve the host now um is it just andrew i don't know we don't know um does everybody get their presence or do they get coal is luke one of the people that i saw on tiktok with the seattle ice storms that is like crawling up the sidewalk or the car is sliding down into like five other cars on a hill i just don't know but i'm um really excited slash nervous to listen to the next episode so i hope you guys are doing well i hope you had a bomb christmas okay well i'm gonna um put my anxiety to the side and listen to the next episode so power out tv tl

i can't hear you that's not true of course but cheer louder yeah

Now, my whole house is great. I can do anything good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can do anything good.

That's our second Arby's in town. Some say it's better. The fries are curlier. Though, I wouldn't know it. I'm loyal to the original.

Please refrain from scolding us for our approach. Our approach is legitimate.

Do you believe that? I do if you do. But it's absurd. You're both little troublemakers. You're both huge in Japan. You probably have a lot to talk about. Go! Keep things light. Don't bring up your divorce.

All right, hello. Good morning. And welcome, everyone, to a Monday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Hey, where's the freaking gabagoo? My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host.

Well, well, well. Luke, who's back?

Yes, indeed. We are back from the TVTL Winter Games and ready to party with the best of them. Coming to you today from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, where it is raining, but it's also somehow beautiful. Oh, ma, pa, it's just beautiful. It's beautiful to be back here doing one of my very favorite things in the world, which is co-hosting TBTL and arriving at episode 3854 in a collector's series. In a collector's series. Let the fun begin. Sorry, you know, we don't use the equipment for a couple of weeks and things start to, you know, kind of seize up on us. But I think I've got this computer working and we can talk about what we're going to talk about on today's TV show, which includes whatever it is we've been up to for the last couple of weeks.

Hey, what happened?

For instance, Andrew and I both went on trips to sort of tropical locale.

Gentlemen, to bed, but we leave at 930-ish.

Well, I went to Palm Springs, which was nice. It wasn't tropical. Andrew went to Hawaii, which I think is unquestionably tropical. We'll talk about that. I also went to a very extremely muddy and like the least tropical place I could possibly be, which was this just shell of a home that I am trying to remodel with my dad. It's just mud and rain and wind and one room that had the heat that had heat available. Really? I'm trying to build my beef castle. That's what I was doing literally for the last week up until like six o'clock last night. That's what I was doing. So we'll talk about that, too. There were some other stories out there in the world that we missed, which we will try to maybe catch up on. We may run out of time today and have to get to them tomorrow. But Andrew and I were both keeping track of interesting stories that were happening during the Winter Games. and we would like to talk about those at some point. Speaking of my friend Andrew, he has returned from Hawaii a changed person.

I'm sorry, I'm tan. I like to be tan. It just feels good.

He's, of course, the longest-

and Incobro of the show may be best known for his tan and also his depictions of the tall ships. He is joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. I'm here. I'm ready to jump back on this horse, on this podcast horse. I'm excited to do it. My computer, though, is singing a different song. As I speak to you, there is something flipping out on my computer, not the one that you and I use to talk to each other, but the one playing the music that you hear right now. It sounds okay. It sounds okay, but as soon as this music is over, I need to restart this thing because my computer is flat. You know how sometimes they go crazy on you and they just start flashing things? It is flashing in a way that I can't stop, and I'll be honest with you. I don't like it. I like this computer, and I don't like seeing it in distress.

Is it possible that it could trigger some sort of a seizure on your part, like that episode of The Simpsons when Homer sees the Japanese dishwasher soap commercial?

I remember that episode. I didn't remember that it triggered something, but I do notice that when you go into places or if you watch a music video, people are very conscientious of that these days. There will be a warning.

Yeah, that's one of the things that we've added to the sort of trigger warning. Let's see. Homer Soap Commercial. I have a feeling, and by the way, this is, I think, where everyone hoped we would start the program today. Welcome back. Homer becomes Mr. Sparkle. And Mr. Sparkle, I think, is like a Japanese dishwasher soap Now, I don't know if the commercial itself gives Homer a seizure Or if the commercial he's in is giving everyone in Springfield a seizure That might be it And I would play it, but it's 4 minutes and 51 seconds on YouTube Which makes me think it'll be one of those classic TBTL moments Where I'm just kind of like, oh, you know what it is? I'm watching it muted I'm sort of saving the listeners the annoyance early on now that we're back. I want to try to stay on good terms with the listeners for at least, I don't know, 10 minutes of our kind of re-entry into this universe. What happens is the Simpsons go to a landfill, and for some reason, Homer finds a box of soap in this landfill that's got a picture of him on it. And they are trying to figure out how and why is he on the box of the soap. He's calling Japan. This is me just going scrubbing this, you know, along on the whatever you call it, scrubber, trying to figure out what the plot of this show is. I don't know if I'm going to get there, but what I do know. Oh, here's what it is. it turns out that homer's face is also exactly what you get if you combine a certain kind of heavy manufacturing concern in japan which is represented by a light bulb and also a fishworks and when you put the fish from the fishworks and the light bulb from the heavy manufacturing concern together you get homer's head so it's not actually homer it's just a combination of two images from japan that happened to perfectly form homer's face

Well I will give you an update here The music has stopped It ended as it should have Nothing crashed on us That was good I am now restarting this computer It seems like it's trying to recognize some USB device That it does not like It's not getting along with something I don't know what's going on I think what happened is I took this computer to Hawaii for the first time It's your lucky day You just found a USB flash drive in the parking lot And my computer was like Oh I live here now I live in paradise This is great I'm pulled out maybe once or twice a week for some some light uploading and then I'm put away like this is the life for me it didn't know that I was going to be bringing it back to rainy Seattle where it would sit and listen to us recap

famous Simpsons episodes now is it possible that your computer is just running five hours behind the west coast of the US like you might also be today I was thinking about that um because now you did of course have a classic Andrew Buffer day but your buffer day was well first of all it It was essential because it sounds like you got delayed coming home and got home really early in the morning on Sunday, like three in the morning or something.

Yeah. Plane landed. Our plane was supposed to leave in the afternoon, Hawaii time and get us back here kind of late, but like 1030 at night or something doable on Saturday evening. But because of some we thought it was weather in San Francisco where our plane was coming from. But it turns out it was a it was like a malfunction of some sort in the plane itself. Apparently, the plane leaving San Francisco that was coming to Hawaii to essentially pick us up, I think it turned around mid-flight, Luke, or not long after takeoff and had to return, and then they had to get a new plane or something. And they admitted that to you? That's what they told us at the airport when we finally arrived four-plus hours later.

Because they never—they don't ever— Oh, my God! He admitted it! They never want to admit it because if it's mechanical, it's on them and they may have to like, let's say that you weren't able to. get out of the uh out of hawaii on your flight and you have to go to hotels that's then on the airline whereas if it's weather it's force majeure and so i have just noticed like because i was flying a fair amount during the break as well and we or becca and i's flight to palm springs was greatly delayed but they were no way they were going to admit it's because they don't have enough jets or people working it was like we're really sorry about this weather and i was like i don't know i'm looking around seems pretty much fine um i think it just has to do with what is their level of you know financial responsibility so i guess if the plane turns around midair there's no

pretending that that's because it was snowy well we didn't know that though i mean this was alaska airlines and i gotta say they they treat you right for the most part at alaska airlines i'm big i'm big fans of theirs i try not to fly as am i yeah as am i as are you um and also i believe they are

a sponsor of some projects that you're a sponsor of livewire but that didn't mean that i didn't have to spend fifteen hundred dollars of my own hard-earned money andrew um earlier this month to buy enough miles to maintain my precious precious status um but no you know how we we

are watching our flight um get delayed and it was funny because we were staying at our friend barry's place in hawaii barry was not using it which is why we were able to like kind of take

barry's place sounds like it's somewhere that podcasters who are down on their luck show

to try to just get back on their feet it was actually a kind of i was surprised to find there was a scared straight program for wayward podcasters it was funny yeah but no i mean it was very gracious of him to say hey you guys can use our place while we're not there uh over the holidays which is why this whole thing happened of course barry is a um a frequent traveler like you and also obsessed with airline patterns and he's got apps and he's tracking flight so we're watching our plane get delayed and then he's weighing in from his vacation spot i think i can say he's in australia right now and he is an australian time like whatsapping us saying hey it looks like your plane is still stuck in san francisco keep an eye on this and that and also the exact literally was telling us about open seats he's like you guys could move your seats to an exit row it looks like two things just opened up he's like advising us from australia while we're sitting on his couch in Hawaii

waiting for our plane to come. Amazing. I think the last time I was going to Hawaii or something, anytime I'm going somewhere, and if we've talked about it on the show or if I've mentioned it to Barry Offline, he'll be like, oh, man, I see they're no longer allowing people to bring their overhead bags on. I'm like, where are you right now? Are you Penny from Inspector Gadget? Are you running this operation from a remote location?

It looks like there's a dog flying in front of you. You might want to move your seat, but there is a parakeet two rows back. But anyway, our flight did get delayed, but we assumed there was a lot of bad weather in San Francisco, so we just assumed that that's what was causing this. It ended up being, again, like a four-and-a-half-hour delay or something. We get to the airport. Genevieve, because of some complications, had to check her bag, which is something we try not to do. But while she was checking her bag with the Alaska folks, they mentioned, oh, yeah, that plane left and it had to circle back. And that's what and she was like, whoa. And they're like, yeah, you should have gotten an email with some like food vouchers for the airport or whatever. And so she's like, oh, I don't. Genevieve does this thing. It's called not checking her email. She doesn't really like it. But she did. She checked it. No, I've heard of it. Yeah. Add it to the list of my suspicions that you guys are the same person. but anyway yeah so Alaska gave us like 50 bucks of food voucher that we use at the airport which was nice and Genevieve got some got some more cash like towards another flight or something like that I don't know so they took care of us and we just assumed it was wind so they didn't have to tell us shit anyway got back it landed at 2 30 got home at 3 in the morning on Saturday but I was so wound up and still a bit on Hawaii time Luke right I stayed up until 7 a.m. on

saturday and then sorry i was texting you at like 10 a.m about various things because i was okay good because i i was like well they got back last night um you know he'll be like it's like 10 50 i'm texting you asking you basically ways slightly outside of the legal uh official legal parameters ways that i could get a hold of the seahawks game because uh again my dad and i were working on this house of mine which has like it has the internet but and i pay for the i pay for television here in portland where i could watch the game but because i don't have television at the house i'm working on it won't let me access my xfinity which was greatly frustrating to me but i was asking you a little bit about all of that on the subject by the way of that football team and of football at large i just want to let everyone know we are doing a no point conversion tomorrow so if you care about that kind of stuff and if we're not talking about that and other sport things today even after this long break it's because we're going to keep our

powder dry for for tomorrow but um anyway sorry i was texting you uh considering that you were on like two hours of sleep but it sounds like it was fine you slept through yeah no i i didn't even know

you texted me until i woke up around noon yesterday and then you know saw that you had texted me then then i got up to head over to the eagles to watch the seahawks game i was i was really my brain i was just kind of brain dead all day yesterday just trying to get used to the time and then last night you'd think oh well if you only got like five hours of sleep and stayed up On this funky schedule you'd think that I'd be Asleep by like nine o'clock last night but I know there was something about me both being Very tired but still being kind of on Hawaii time where it's two hours earlier Like I still stayed up

Oh is it two this Time of year versus Three I thought I was under the impression Hawaii was at some Point in the year three hours but I could just be Misremembering That I just think of Hawaii as in fact I think for a while I thought it was five hours behind

I think that's probably maybe you were maybe you were east coast centric there because i always think of it as five hours from the east

coast two okay so yeah so now i feel less bad for you i thought you were five hours behind us this

morning no just two hours no i'm just my usual any mistakes i make or whatever it's just on me

being an idiot yeah no time zone did you uh did you have fun out there at barry's place it was

great like um it was just like really chill this is the way i like to vacation like i'm not a very adventurous person of course i on our first day there we were having brunch at some kind of nice little cafe and we had a very nice server and she said how long are you in town for because we were staying like right in honolulu and um we said 10 days and she looked at us like aghast she was like that's way too long to stay here it's like there's not that much stuff to do and i was like yeah because you're probably i didn't say this but i'm thinking yeah because you're probably a young person who when you travel just just a normal person i guess when you travel you probably would go to island to island and you know make sure that you do this thing that is on this list

and then check off this other thing and like for her that sitting on a couch watching television in Waikiki or sitting in a swimming pool reading a book or whatever like there are just mundane things that you're very happy to do for eight days that would seem like kind of not the point

of the trip for her basically yeah and for me it was kind of like well first of all until we kind of again got this invitation like we weren't planning on taking a vacation anyway this was just kind of bonus like I was planning on just you know being here in Seattle for these two weeks while we were doing the winter games probably you know keeping an eye on things and maybe taking a little staycation but I don't even think that was in the in the plan so this was just kind of like hey do you want to be in Hawaii for 10 days which by the way was that's the longest I think Vives and I have been on the road I think or it's because the whole trip was just like it all just felt like just bonus chill time in a in a really nice place i felt no pressure to necessarily do anything just you know played a lot of cards with genevieve um stayed up late slept in late went to the pool genevieve went to the beach a couple of times just it was just a very it was a very fun chill time i was excited to come back i want to say one thing before um i i stopped talking here luke i mentioned playing cards vives and i love playing this version of gin rummy that we've been playing for a few years in fact it got us through the pandemic we'd sit outside at our old apartment and just play gin rummy um and we like to play a game called gin um but it's uh doesn't involve cards yeah i play a game called rummy that doesn't involve cards as well look at my nose it always knows um but uh uh we we like to you know we were playing on the lanai there in the condo but also

really like if there's anywhere where you're going to be legitimately on a lanai yeah it's in the hawaiian island exactly you're not on a lanai in cleveland no offense i don't care no you're on a porch in cleveland we can call it that i've been places on the you know on the mainland where people are like oh i'll see you on the lanai i'm like let's not get cocky sacramento but when you're

in friggin hawaii you are on the lanai yeah definitely in ohio you're on a porch i don't know what you're on in sacramento um but i was gonna say luke we like to play cards at bars you You know, usually I'll have my pack of cards on on me when we go out. And so if we're like, hey, we're sitting there having some drinks, we'll pull out the cards and play some gin rummy. We went to this little beach bar that I loved in Honolulu called Arnold's. It was a very chill place. And I realized I didn't bring my cards with me. And so we asked the bartender, hey, can we borrow a deck of cards if you happen to have one? Or do you have a game shelf?

Please tell me they had a woman in a grass skirt doing the hula on one side of them.

No, they didn't. But it was that vibe. But it was like legally all playing cards in Hawaii should. Oh, no, no. They didn't have a deck of cards for us. I thought you meant in the I thought you meant the bartender had somebody next to her who was wearing.

No, that's maybe over the line.

No, listen to this. She's like, no, you can't play cards in the bar. We're like, what are you talking about? And she's like, yeah, no, like Hawaii has some of the strictest rules in the nation about gambling. And so most bars, you can't even really.

pull out a deck of cards because even if you're not gambling like it's just not worth the bar taking that risk if somebody were to come in and bust them and i'm sure some bars are more strict than others but she said that like she said like people were playing like uh uno go or like uno or monopoly go or something and she's like and we had to tell them you can't play that here because we could lose our license if somebody misinterprets it and so we were like that's bananas you guys must be like just super strict but we started looking up the laws like there's no lotto at all in hawaii you can't play cards and bars believe me andrew i noticed because i was bizarrely in

hawaii like two times over the course of a month because of work and personal vacation and there is a point where after i've had a couple of my ties i'm starting to think i wonder what the local scene is around here and uh the local scene is non-existent like it is a very very controlled environment i mean i'm sure if you live there and you try hard enough you can find some kind of underground action but um but yeah i was struck by that when i was there too yeah it's like a very which you know this is weird for me to say because i'm a person who certainly like engages in plenty of games of chance but like i don't think that's i don't think it's at all bad for the for the local population and i don't mean just people that are quote unquote locals but i mean for the residents and the people visiting those islands to not have access to some shiny shiny some giant shiny casino that's going to take all your money you know let me put it this way when i'm flying home from those trips and i haven't donated to the local casino economy i'm not mad at that at all

yeah and it doesn't see i mean like you say maybe there are some you know maybe there's a proliferation of underground cockfights or something going on in hawaii i did go to some

of those yeah but like it and they were like the sign up list is full sir so um sort of belies the

argument that when you outlaw something it's still just going to happen anyway and it's just going to be you know what i mean like whether you want to apply that logic to gun laws or or whatever it is be like well there's no point in outlawing anything well no i mean you you can curb things now whether or not you want to curb gambling as strictly like i can see arguments on both side of that but like no i think it's pretty clear that like if you are a place that wants to tamp down on something that you see as as negative for your culture you can do that

i would also guess i don't know how this is just turning into my speculation on the sort of economics of the hawaiian islands but i would say it probably also works because um those islands are unique in that they have particularly like you know uh which island is honolulu on the big island oahu um you have in those islands you have a constant source of potential income for the area and it is the tourism so whereas a lot of places when they're a lot of you know municipalities and counties and states and places are like we are we need more money to fix the potholes we don't we can't just like we can't just you know manifest that money well one way to do it is gambling because people love gambling but what you can do in hawaii is you can add five more percent on the hotel tax which you wouldn't know about because

you were staying at barry's place no no let me charge us that five let me just tell you

about the last two times i stayed there on my own dime it is ridiculously expensive and i bet you anything you know a quarter of what i was paying or more was just fees and things like that that help support the local economy making it probably less necessary to allow things like the lotto or bingo or other things that you know states and cities tend to take a skim from you know i'm just

thinking i want to hear more about your time in um you know your time off both in palm springs and then working in your house because i was watching i was seeing a lot of photos and videos that you were posting and it seems really exciting what you guys what you and your dad are working on over there but before we get to that can i nudge us towards that intro that we heard from a listener who was curious about what happened after you came and we recorded the show together i mean this seems like a lifetime ago luke this seems like a lifetime ago but we actually got into some adventures i forgot that uh last friday before the winter games you came over here during an ice storm you drove up from portland we did the show here we did not know if you would be able to drive away from our house because the entire city of Seattle they later used in the police report I mean the entire city of Seattle on any kind of side roads had just like three or four inches of ice on it and you had barely made it up our little road to get into our driveway and then the listeners wanted to know like hey what happened did we go to karaoke that night did Genevieve make her KJ debut at the Eagles and I'll tell you she did and we were there and it was fun Friday does that seem like lifetimes ago to you Luke two Fridays ago yes it does it's it's a it's a very very very distant somewhat foggy memory but yeah what happened well first of all I was able to get off of your street thanks to my snow socks which for people who can't remember all the way to Fridays ago were these sort of bizarre like literally like sort of like fabric socks shaped like a donut that you put on your the wheels of your car and i guess my particular car doesn't do well with chains because if the chain were to break and fly off or cables or whatever it could cut the brake line which again just seems like pretty bad design um but anyway so i put those things on to back out of your driveway and um and drive down the street very gingerly and it worked and then i pulled over at that um gas station kind of around the corner from your house and i took them off because you're also not supposed to drive um on like a you're not supposed to go over 25 miles an hour with the snow socks on so i pulled over and i pulled them off the car and i immediately realized remember andrew from two fridays ago how i said the woman at lace schwab down here in portland had was giving me all of this like advice about how to deal with these snow socks things and they were like it was weirdly specifically if you're in a hotel you hang them over your shower curtain like you would at your bathing suit or something i was like huh well what i realized as soon as i pulled those things off of my car in that parking lot was they're soaking wet and they're fabric like you don't think about that with like chains or cables but and also you think of the ice as being solid not a liquid but it just turns out No, those things are just, they're just sopping wet.

Well, I was, I mean, I was going to a hotel, but it was like the Westin. I didn't really want to bring the snow socks in with me and hang them over the, so I put them in the back of the car, and then by the time I finally got back to Portland, I hung them up in my parking garage of the building, and they're doing just fine. But I guess what I want to say is, that woman was less, was being less weird than I thought she was being, because what she was describing was a very real thing, which is like, those things get super duper soaking wet and you do have to deal with them in some way so you took

them off when you got to the main road because the main roads around here were salted and clear totally fine any kind of like any kind of residential street was dangerous and then you because you were staying in a hotel i guess you didn't have to deal with any more residential streets so you did not go skittering anywhere you did your car didn't have any more no i didn't

i didn't have any uh any close calls in the car but i did have close calls walking around seattle Because what I did was I I I was getting Addy a kind of a sort of a special experiential present, which involved going to a few different locations in the city and kind of getting these different things that I was going to give her. And one of those areas was Ballard. And so I went from your house over to Ballard. And that was easy to do because like in the main roads were all like fine. But when I got to Ballard, it was like when George Bailey goes to the I know this doesn't make any sense to you, but like goes to Pottersville when he goes to Bedford Falls, but he was never born. And it was like just a cold wind whistling through Ballard. Everything was closed, even though it was like a Friday at noon. And that ice that was in front of you in Veeves' house was everywhere. And I was walking. I didn't make it into one of those TikTok videos where people were sliding down like the counterbalance on Queen Anne. But I was like kind of very, very carefully wandering around Ballard trying to see if a couple of these places I was going to were open. sure enough they weren't so i got back in the car i went to the hotel by the time uh we all reunited it uh the um the rain had come and and a lot not all a lot of the ice had gone away and so it was a lot easier to navigate seattle that night i will say though camaro kev and anita street remained an absolute shit show did you see any of the photos of that i mean i kevin and i swung by his house that night and it was ridiculous someone's car had just come to somebody had basically like gotten scared abandoned their vehicle entering their street which is like a narrow street that you had to go do like a turn around and come back out of somebody else had also gotten stuck and then they had piled up all of the garbage cans in the neighborhood to keep anyone from hitting their car it looked like something out of the walking dead it looked like they were trying to fend off some horde of something and meanwhile i you know camaro and anita's street it has a lot of of dense residents i was like this is up to thousands of people are Cut off from society because of these Two jabronis who just left their cars

Kind of in this intersection that just blocks Sort of the mouth of the Just left them there

And these cars were not It wasn't like if these people Driving these cars had just Realized how much they were screwing Everyone else over they could have Called a friend and just pushed their car Back somewhere wasn't blocking like These cars were not in danger and the people In the cars had not been in physical danger They had just decided Adam like the feeling this let me i'm gonna bounce and i'm gonna just leave this car here uh blocking everyone just until you know the thaw happens it was very very selfish of them yeah i mean but i think you were

seeing a lot of that around the city because people were like i we genevieve and i stood in our front window in our kitchen window and just watched cars try to make it down our street again we live kind of tucked away off of two main streets though we're kind of sandwiched by two We're not sandwiched, but we're sort of tucked into an intersection near two main kind of throughways. So those streets are very clean. But then anybody coming off of those major roads to get into our neighborhood or to make a little cut through or if they're just following their Google Maps or their ways or what have you, they suddenly found themselves in a whole new world, which was ice skating town, which is what our streets were. And so we just watched this like this one car was insistent upon trying to get up over this one hill. I don't think they realized that even if they made it to the crest of this hill, which is kind of a very small rise, they were going to go crashing down the other side like the road was closed because you would just go you just go sliding and skidding. But like, no, once you're out, once you've once you've bitten that off, like you don't have a lot of resources. And we were watching this one guy who was, like, just spinning around right in front of our house. And I was just like, our car is parked there. I was just like, I was like, I'm not leaving here until they are away, until they stop spinning around our car. I thought for sure they were just going to, like, crash into our car, which was parked. Like, once you're on that ice, you kind of run out of some options. And you're right. Like, I find it hard to believe that I would ever leave my car in an intersection like that. but at kevin and anita's those drivers must just been like i we can't move anymore like i watched cars just kind of give up outside of our window too they need snow socks they do take away from

this absolutely but to that uh to that listener i think that they were named annie uh we uh everything was uh was fine thankfully obviously i made it to andrew's house you know that part and then the rest of the night we had a blast at uh karaoke um and genevieve k jade and our friends came out and i played darts against you and hauser and uh and occasionally rodent although he would quit sometimes when he felt like no one was paying attention um and then i would yell at him and then he would play again it was a uh it was a whole scene there at the eagles uh so yeah

it was really fun yeah it was a fun night i remember we we did end up taking genevieve and i took a lift to get there and we had to kind of like you know traverse our icy street on foot And that was pretty dangerous just to get to the main road where the where the car picked us up. And by that time of night, like things were starting to melt quite a bit, especially on the main roads. But, you know, the drive took us, I don't know, like 10 or 15 minutes. And then we told the driver, like, OK, we don't want you going on any of these side roads near the Eagle. So you just stay on your major roads and drop us off a couple of blocks away. I think it took us longer to walk the last two and a half blocks than it did for the entire drive to the Eagles because like at this point like the ice is now starting to melt but it's still very very thick it was just like I felt like I was on rollerblades again only there were no rollerblades and I was just like I'm gonna die I'm gonna die but we made it there and nothing is more important than doing drunken karaoke and playing darts so at least our priorities were straight and ended up being a really fun night and the Eagles was hopping yeah more people that was yeah it wasn't so I kind of thought no I figured like

you know it's going to be one of those things where most people are staying home most people are making the right choice but because I you know I was in town I was and and Veeves was KJing I was excited about I was glad it was happening but I figured it would just be like the five of us and then I go and it's like people are playing shuffleboard the downstairs area is full i was just like wow uh this is uh this is really the spot to be yeah and you and then to

you know fill out the rest it sounds like you were able to get all the gifts that you needed

to get or mostly and it sounds like yes i was we had a uh yeah i had a a really great weekend in seattle with addy we we um i did saturday i was everything reopened on saturday so i was able to uh get everything all put together and um you know uh and then we did this big fun thing on christmas eve addie and i and uh and then did christmas day together so yeah it was everything turned out uh everything turned out just fine um and then i went to palm springs which talk about uh maybe after the break and then i came home and spent like six days in what i think the un would describe as um you know crimes against humanity sort of conditions at this house that i'm working on and yet uh it was kind of a fun week too so maybe we'll talk about that in a minute when we come back from this quick break here on tbtl hey let's thank some of our daily donors these are the people keeping tbtl in business And we are very grateful for Emily Mann Down there in Tucson, Arizona Thank you, Emily Thanks also to Tyler Nimi In Longview, Washington Longview Yeah Tyler always takes the long view, Andrew Yeah, I don't I like to just focus on I try to remind you You get so worked up And you're so like You know, it's like Whatever's happening immediately Is what you're reacting to I'm like, take the Tyler approach Take the long view Can't live in the future, Tyler, I'm telling you. Longview, by the way, turns 100 this year. Founded in 1923. Wow. That's pretty new. Well, because I, without getting too specific, let's just say I have reason to visit Longview, Washington, occasionally related to this project I'm doing. This house that I'm working on, it's in southern Washington. So it's kind of, it's between a few different towns, but one of them is Longview. So I now spend a fair amount of time visiting Longview, Washington. Oh, I see. So they have signs up? There is a sign that says there's like some kind of a banner or something. I mean, I saw this like with my dad the other day, and I noted, oh, Longview, the centennial coming up, the hundred year. Thanks, Tyler. Thanks also to Colin Seymour in Seattle, Washington. When was Seattle founded?

I'm looking. I was starting to type. I was typing that before you even said those words. I was surprised. 1851.

1851. Okay, so like 49, carry the one. So like 20, about 20, sorry, many years. That's the word I'm looking for. Many years before Longview. Yes. Okay. You know who knew that? Mark Braithwaite, who's also in Seattle, Washington. Noted Seattle historian.

Calendar watcher. I call him a calendar watcher.

Classic calendar watcher. And then Matthew, Matthew Jaeger or Jaeger is in Kirkland. Is Matthew the person that made Oops the Dirty Monster?

No, I believe that's another Jaeger. That's another Jaeger monster. That's Eric, I believe.

We've got a regular Jaeger bomb going with these various listeners. Matthew, thank you, baby, for supporting the show. And get on your cartooning. You're way behind the other Jaeger.

You had years to catch up. That was made in 2013.

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As far as getting your money back, cold, dead hands, me, have, comma.

See the fine print, but also thank you. See the fine print, but also thank you very much. We're humbled by your donation. That is nonrefundable. Hello, and welcome to Top Story. All right, so I guess the top story for today that we haven't yet addressed is just kind of what I've been up to. so you were in hawaii and uh i went to uh beck and i went to palm springs because i wanted to go somewhere that was warm but i also did not want to have to fly somewhere that was really far away to get to like legit warmth this time of year you've got to go somewhere equatorial right you've got to get down on that on that equator like you were in hawaii um or like you know tulum or you You've got to get to the equator or south of it this time of year, and I just didn't have that in me. Also, I'm just lighting money on fire at this house that I'm remodeling, so I was also not trying to spend a huge amount on airline tickets. So anyway, we went to Palm Springs. It was really fun. We got an Airbnb, and then Becca's brother and his wife and then her other brother and his wife all came down, so we got to hang out for a few days and celebrate New Year's Eve, And it was really super. Lovely, although I've never been more obsessed with checking the weather app than I was down there because we had I'd rented this Airbnb house. It had a pool, which was cool. And it was like a lot. There was going to be a significant number of people there. And I really wanted the trip to go well. I really wanted it to just be beautiful and sunny and lovely and everyone to just think, wow, isn't Luke a great guy for helping make this happen? And it wasn't that a fun time we all had, which I tend to very much over kind of build those things up in my own mind into way more of a big deal than they are. But I knew if it just happened to be one of those weeks where it was just raining and we're just like sitting around inside, it was just like, well, why do we all come to Palm Springs for this? We could be doing this in Portland. So luckily, the weather kind of cooperated. It was like two really nice days and two kind of blah days. But when it was nice, it was like it was really awesome. I also learned how to play, speaking of Uno, Andrew, a game called Uno Flip, which I now love. I was very suspicious of it when we started playing it because it was a lot of rules and a lot of weirdness. But it is great. Have you ever played Uno Flip?

No. I know that there are various takes on the Uno games now. Veeves and I play one that I'm blanking on the name of, and I don't have to distract myself by coming up with it right now. but somebody the other day told me that there's an uno game that's played exclusively with wild cards which sounds oh i don't know like that sounds too flavor blasted to me like well that's

funny you would say that because this i was calling this game there so it's it's actually this is a a deck that is specifically created for this which of course is the whoever makes uno just thinking how do we sell more every literally every home in america has a deck of these how do we You can sell them more. Oh, we'll make a new game that has different printed cards, and now they have to buy those. But the way it works is you're going around, you're doing the regular Uno thing, you're playing it however, but then there's another card that someone can play that's flip, and you literally flip all of your cards over. And on the other side is a different set of cards. They're numbers, but they have different color. So you could be humming along. You've got a bunch of red in your hand, and you're like, okay, sweet, we're on red. I'm going to just dump all these cards. And then someone flips it, and now it's like majestic. the one side of the cards the flip side were like really non-naturally occurring colors right like because the primary colors are on the regular side of the uno card they're like red black green yellow things we're used to they're out of normal colors so the flip side is essentially the like flaming hot cheeto flavored doritos of uno like they're like all these bizarre metallic colors and shit because that's you know so i kept being like when we'd go to that one i'd be like oh we're going to the fun side right now but anyway uh that was really fun and had a lovely time in palm springs but then basically i came home i have been in this apartment probably two nights in the last three or four weeks because i came home on sunday got home super late uh and then got up early monday morning and immediately headed up to this remodeling project uh where my dad came and met me And we've been basically building out what used to be the garage, which is going to be the future home of TBTL. There's going to be an office and a studio, and there'll be a little kitchenette and a couch. I mean, I could kind of live there if I decide to, but it's really primarily like an office and kind of, I guess you could say, a recording studio.

If you kick yourself out of your own house, you can sleep on the couch in there.

Honestly, Andrew, I've done it before, and I'll probably do it again. um actually truthfully i do think about this because one of my thoughts is well maybe i'll move up there so that i can kind of like consolidate my expenses because right now i have to pay for this place i'm playing for that place it's you know it's kind of adding up um but if i do move up there and i'm staying in the in like tbtl central i'm bubbles is going to make me completely insane because it's it's effectively like a studio apartment it's a you know it has a little bathroom And again, it's going to have a little kitchenette, but it's not going to be a great place for me and a wild jungle cat to just be staring at each other all day. Like there would not even be a way for me to like shut a door and go to sleep and make her be on the other side of the door. So that's one of the considerations. Stupid cat. But anyway, it was pretty fun at the beginning of the week because we were doing things that had a lot of kind of payoff to them. like we put in a sliding glass door that's going to eventually go out to a small little kind of porch thing and we put in these huge windows that we had salvaged from the house itself because this is what used to be the garage so putting those windows in and putting that sliding glass door in it was like super satisfying because this has just been like a dank ass garage and I don't mean that in the way that the kids would be like oh man that garage was dank

I mean it was

Say that. all the time they say the dankest things they do kids say the dankest did we get there

is that our show title you got me that's really good but so at the beginning of the week it was

like really fun because we would be out there and we'd be like you know cutting a giant hole in a wall and then like framing in uh a sliding glass door or something and they would just be like you just look at it and be like damn that is so different than it used to be and then like midway through the week we just hit the most tedious shit ever which was like putting in blocking for sheetrock so in other words eventually and it's still very far from this point but after the all of the uh wiring is put in the walls because right now it's just like you know bare walls like this is the again this is the studio i'm talking about that the house itself is a whole other story that is just like that's just sitting there also in total disrepair but but with way less progress being made than is being made on the studio but basically they got to put in the wiring got to put in the plumbing um through the walls so that then they insulate and then you put the sheetrock on but when you're going to put the sheetrock on the wall this is the stuff i don't really know about you in certain areas my dad was explaining you can't just nail it to the wall because there's nothing to nail it to for whatever complicated reason and so what we had to do was spend days cutting up random pieces of wood and attaching them into the basically studs and roof and other parts of the interior of this of this little garage so that when someday probably decades from now the sheetrock guys show up they have something to actually attach the sheetrock to so it's but then but after like a day and a half of that you look around it like it looks no different all you know is that it's been made more possible that someday it can be sheetrocked and then it was like you know running the wires is is kind of sad what's satisfying actually is putting in the where the light switches and the power outlets are gonna go i had like 24 of these single and double gang and that's what they're called um like plastic boxes that you nail into the studs and then eventually when you run the wiring when you run the Romex to them you know you put the wire in there and then you come through later and you put in the actual like little thing you know with the where you plug something in or the light switch but going around and just like nailing those things in and being like someday you're going to be a light switch someday you're going to be a an a two gang power outlet that's ground faulted that i'm going to be able to plug in uh this computer and do tbtl from that was kind of satisfying but it was things really ground ground to not a halt in terms of the progress but a halt in terms of the fun of the project by by like yesterday at five when mostly i just wanted to watch the seahawk game my my dad's just like mostly interested in trying to get more of the project done and i'm mostly interested in trying to put a hex on baker mayfield now this is interesting

to me because i guess you're the first person i know who's installing electrical outlets and what have you um in the modern world and i'm thinking like are you making considerations for like just having outlets that are basically like some usb outlets or whatever like because it seems like more and more places you go they'll have you know the the usual american you know outlets that we all grew up with but there will also be like usb ports in it now like are you thinking about the

future jack as they say in the movie batman well i as you know andrew i future proof everything in my life because um i'm i'm usually two steps ahead of everyone else uh the answer is no i've given that zero thought because we're not even at the point where i have not even bought the actual outlet the thing that you would plug like your computer into or and i know what you mean a lot of those outlets now have usb built into them those are not even in yet because that's going to be after the drywall is in like so what happens is the people that come in and do the drywall they cut holes where all of the power stuff is is is established and then you come in after that and you pull the wires out gently and you attach the you know wires to the little device and you push it back and you screw that plate on and there you go you've got a light switch or you've got a an outlet now i could make some of those outlets they could have that usb thing but i swear to god i feel like the usb thing is already rushing right well that's why i was going to ask yeah i mean do

you need to think and i know that you're not there yet but eventually you will be making these decisions and i do know that you like to have i think often especially with technology you do like to have the latest thing um and so you could have the opportunity to put in usbc as well if that's the way the world is moving. I don't know what I'm talking about here. I'm just asking questions, man.

Yeah, I know. Like so many podcasters these days. That's also why Neil Young has pulled his content from APM.

We're just asking questions.

Like, it is actually a very good question because I feel like anything that you put in there will be convenient for like a few months and then there will be a new thing and then you'll have this weird outlet that allows you to play an eight track. Although when I said that out loud, i realized how dope that would be that would be i realized just how dank that would actually be and so um i don't know i guess i'll just kind of see when we get to that point that point feels so far away though andrew i'm really struggling with like like what's the word patience like because i i again it was a and by the way it was like a really fun week hanging out with my dad because the the sort of schedule for the day would be we get up pretty early um and there was one room with heat in the main place because everything else is just like you know two by fours and studs in there so this little like i guess dining room area where we like put down a plastic visqueen sheet there's also no doors in a lot of the house we put down a plastic visqueen thing to keep the heat in there was one heater in there that we turned on and we and then so i would cook dinner in the kitchen and my dad would basically call my mom from the other room as is their ritual and then We'd have dinner, and then we'd watch some stolen BBC content, including May Gray, starring Rowan Atkinson.

Oh, old Mr. Bean and the Black Hatter? Red Hat? The Black Adder. Adder, yes, there we go.

Yes, he in May Gray, Rowan Atkinson, is the most opposite he could be from Mr. Bean or Black Adder. He's like this very somber detective named May Gray. It's based on some novels. It was pretty fun to watch. it was fun to watch it with my dad it was the thing about it that was kind of different than what i'm used to watching now is there were no twists like what would happen is and it was set in france except they spoke english and they also spoke english where they mispronounced french words which was weird to me like at one point somebody says guillotine on the show which was So it's like British actors It's set in Montmartre Or Montmartre Or however you would say it If you were saying with a French accent But they're basically in France And they're supposed to be French But they're pronouncing everything with the British version Of how you would say a French word

That is strange On the other hand though I watched The Hunt for Red October Where Sean Connery plays a Russian sub-captain

Would you call his accent convincing?

I would it was it was amazing to see his range let me ask you this and I'm trying to figure out if I know the answer to this because maybe I maybe you posted something about it or maybe I've just been seeing this a lot like as I I have a couple of like apps on our on our smart TV why is it so smart equals MC how smart is that but like we have like Pluto and a couple of other like free services that actually have kind of like live streaming tv but it's just like weird it's just like the macgyver channel or the 1970s movie channel playing 1970s movies that you've never heard of um but uh i keep on seeing the midsummer murders this is my question is this a show that your dad is familiar with can we just get him on the show to give us reviews of these because i keep on seeing midsummer murders and maybe i should watch it maybe i um i'm sure if

If it was on the BBC and if you can bit torrent it from the Pirate Bay, I'm sure, which by the way still exists, the Pirate Bay still exists, I'm sure that my dad has it. Now, part of why we were working off of what was on his laptop was because for the first three days there was no internet up there. Because, guess what, the guy who was digging a sewer line from the studio down to the septic tank, who seemed like a very nice guy and probably is a nice guy, totally hit the line, the underground line that had the internet in it and totally didn't say anything to me about it. And I had to dig it up and find the part of the cable line conduit that was clearly had been because the Internet used to work there. And then I had this like sewer line put in and then the Internet didn't work. And I still was trying to tell myself it probably wasn't related to the sewer line being dug. And then I dug up the conduit and there was there was two abrasions on the conduit that were exactly the width of the bucket on an excavator.

that's interesting and do you think that this person didn't realize it or you're sort of implying that he was being duplicitous

I well again I really like this dude I probably will hire him again by the way so clearly I'm not I think he probably thought and maybe this I can identify with this because this would be my approach I think he probably thought he didn't he just just tapped it he just kind of caught it and then realized it and then put it back down and like everything was going to be fine because it wasn't it wasn't like the line was severed it wasn't like you know you literally like this thing was separated in two pieces it was just had an abrasion on it but it just so happened that because then we pulled the coax out and the coax was just like kind of I don't know it's like somebody Took a potato peeler and ran it on there for a few Minutes so I could see a universe In which he started to pull it out Realized it put it back down Gently and figured I'm gonna let that sleeping Dog lie and I had to dig up that sleeping dog and And then we we fixed it and now we Have the internet but for the first few days we Were I was like dad if we're gonna Watch anything it's got to be something on your laptop And he was like well

Did he stretch His fingers out in front of him and crack his knuckles

it was the weirdest thing he like changed he changed out of his outfit he was wearing

had put on like a

jumpsuit and put on one of those like you know like a green visor and some glasses but one of the glasses had like a jewelers kind of like magnifying glass on it and he just and he hunched over the computer and he said what do we have here so yeah so we were watching stuff that he just had on his computer May Gray was fine, but the thing about May Gray was that it's – I'm just so used to – we want to talk about flavor blasting. I'm so used to my television and film being flavor blasted when it comes to mysteries. In other words, what would happen in May Gray is they would – a murder would happen, and Rowan Atkinson would kind of walk around thinking about, hi, I wonder where the killer stood when they did this. And then he'd kind of see somebody in, like, the first act, and he'd be like, it was probably that person. and then it would just be that person and then it'd be like they would just arrest that person and then they would just kind of like um you know they would sort of gather evidence none of it particularly shocking or twist based and then he'd get the da to kind of like charge him and then it'd just be like the end of the episode i'm just so used to it like it's never whoever they're like making you think it might be you know what i mean this was like this was just so It just didn't have any twists or turns Or surprises in a way that I'm kind of used to So that was interesting I think there was five or six of them total And by the fifth one I was like Oh, it's just whoever he kind of thinks it is, I guess Alright

Let me ask you this Have you ever seen the TV show This is not British Only Murders in the Building?

No, but I have wanted to Because it involves a lot of things I love Steve Martin, Martin Short, Selena Gomez And podcasting

Yeah, exactly And people have been recommending it because it is a show that's kind of about, well, it's about podcasting. It's about these three tenants of this old school New York building and Steve Martin, Martin Short, Selena Gomez. And they all end up getting together and they try to solve a murder that happened in the building and do a podcast about it at the same time. And so, you know, I love Steve Martin so much and Martin Short. I love them both. Selena Gomez, I think, is a treasure as well. Have you watched her cooking show? No, no, I haven't.

It is very good. Addie got me into it. Selena Gomez, yeah. She's got a cooking show where she has a celebrity over, and they try to make something, and her grandpa's in it a lot, and it is very charming.

I just didn't realize she was acting until I saw her in this, I think it's a Jim Jarmusch film called Only the Dead Die Young. That's not it. The Dead Don't Die, maybe, is what it's called. Only the Dead Die Young also should be. i would call that a b-level billy joel song exactly but anyway the show it was one of those things where it was recommend it was so strongly recommended to me only murders in the building i had a feeling it wasn't going to live up to all of the hype and it's funny like i it was kind of the perfect thing to watch on the airplane trip home it's like a six-hour flight and i um uh at first i watched a movie and then i watched like i'm gonna say i watched probably exactly the first half of the first season and it's like got these moments that are really charming again like it's so much about the charisma and seeing martin short and steve martin together again and again selena gomez i want to give her her due as well like they all have kind of moments where they shine and and it's especially good when the three of them will just sort of share a moment um and then other times it just feels so overwritten and and clunky and it's just like it just sort of swings all over the place like i what i love about her like these small little moments sometimes even just a look between Steve Martin and Martin Short but and so I would sort of recommend it for those moments but I would recommend it cautiously like I think that you know it's just so it's so ridiculous in so many ways and I know that you know they're being very silly in this idea of hey we're we're making a podcast at one point steve martin is literally scoring it with a um what do you call the little handheld squeeze box instrument um but it's like a small one that you would sort of hear not an accordion but not an accordion but it's something you know it's accordion-esque right yeah i think i have one of those in a storage unit they're like red and small exactly and like steve martin is like literally talking into a microphone and scoring it at the same time like obviously it's a it's a farce you know it's not supposed to be a documentary ira does it well that's how i make the commercials that that's how i mix the commercials that we um every day actually at the beginning of the show when you hear that music playing that's me and my band which is why sometimes i'm off my game when i open up my mic but um anyway i know it's not supposed to be a documentary about making a podcast but it's also sometimes cringy in in the references to podcasting you know like i don't know i would sort of recommend it though

uh the other show that we got into was and again this is all stuff that my dad has watched but luckily because he is you know my dad is not in my mind old at all he is i think he's 68 but because he is at the age well let me put it this way my dad falls asleep during every show that we watched and so he doesn't ever remember what happens in the shows it's kind of great because it's all new to him except i will tell you one thing we started watching this one that was um that I really liked called The Missing. And it's the whole season follows this one abduction case. I believe later, and the guy who's the investigator, who I guess you could say is sort of the star, he's not really the star, but he's the person who's in every season. His name is Julian Baptiste. And I think they changed the series to just be called Baptiste later on. But we were watching the first season called The Missing. And it was very good, and it was much twistier, which i liked but one night i was my this also tells you how old i am i was like dad i'm hitting the hay man i am like it was like 10 i was like i am tired from a long day of putting up sheetrock blocking i was like are you gonna watch another episode he was like yeah i am i was like okay well just no spoilers then he goes okay so the next morning i get up or whatever we were out and working in the studio and he goes i go how far did you get he goes oh i fell asleep i only watched like 10 more minutes i was like cool he goes yeah but i'm thinking about now i'm remembering i think they find the kid's body i was like what literally the last thing i said to you last night was no spoilers and that's when i realized generationally that means nothing to him like he doesn't he doesn't he doesn't know what no spoilers means and he just was like i'm pretty sure they find the kid's body i was like why did you just say that apropos of nothing at 9 45 in the morning when you know i want to watch the end of the show by the way they don't so maybe he was just trying to like he was a dream a red herring i don't know but that one the missing um i really enjoyed and it was again it was much more it was it was uh it was it was not like oh it's just whoever seems kind of sus in the first episode um uh but anyway that was sort of our that was sort of our our nighttime activity as we would watch those things and you know again we got a lot done and i'm i'm but when i was saying earlier i really have to work on my patience it's because it's like i've never really been part of something at this level of remodeling like i have had other houses that i've had where we've had big stuff done but it's been different first of all i haven't done most of the work so it's like you know carrie and i and the burbank springs uh house tore down a lot of stuff but then my then brother-in-law adam was he was the contractor on it he would come out every day and he would just sort of figure stuff out and i was often traveling for

work or just doing tbtl down the hall or i wasn't like aware of how many unbelievably tedious things have to happen for like basically a house to get built or to be stripped down to the studs and then rebuilt up and i just want it to be done i want it to be over with i want to be doing the show from in there i want to be staring at the pretty boats i want like that and also it doesn't help that my dad who is like a literal angel who is saving my life by helping me do this um although it's kind of annoying because he has so i i've hired him to do this right he has these other people that he works for i will withhold their last name only because there's a small chance that like somebody who's listening to this on the olympic peninsula also knows them but like he'll be like well next week i've got to go uh do some work for the so-and-so's and i'm I'm like, and not your own son? Like, how are these random people that we don't know, how are they a bigger priority than your very own son and this podcast, TBTL? Which, by the way, he asked me if TBTL is an app. Is it? It used to be. I didn't even get into it. I did not even get into it.

do it i did not even begin to try to explain that we once had an app but we don't but we are as a podcast he just literally is it an app is that what tbtl is is it an app did you say yes i did i said yes you can order your um groceries on it actually it's actually very very successful but like um anyway uh my dad god bless him he is a literal angel for helping me do all of this and And it's been so fun for us to get to just hang out, you know, for long periods of time and just catch up and talk about, like, old stories from when I was really little and, like, at the Lighthouse Ranch and the other kind of, like, stuff in Eureka. But he is also, my dad is extremely methodical. Like, so methodical. like so like every single every i that needs to be dotted and t that needs to be crossed like we were hanging a door on um on sunday morning i think it was we were putting the door to the studio in it was a pre-hung door it was from lowe's that means it's already in the like the door jam and everything is already integrated and we put it in and we shim it out and uh which is where you put these like little pieces of wood that kind of bring it all to level and plum and and we get it all set up and we open it and close and it's like perfection i'm like so stoked about this door and my dad notices that there is like a tenth of an eighth of an inch of something that's not ideal for him and he's like i don't like that and i was like yeah but i think it's fine i mean everything that it locks it closes there's no air coming through it like it's to me if i if i were just hanging this door i'd be like i can't believe how well i did at hanging this door but my dad is noticing some microscopic thing that bugs him and it's like he's just like so now he's unscrewing all the screws in the door jam and we're trying to flex it and put it back in he's re-shimming it it's been glued down the bottom of the door is glued down with this foam that's really there just to keep like water and stuff out but it also acts as a adhesive and he's like well we can just take all these screws out and we can take the door back out and break that adhesive bond and then rehang it so that we can get rid of it and i'm just like i'm trying to i'm trying to be diplomatic and be like well dad um if you think that's a good use of two hours of this day when i think the door is perfectly fine so we kind of negotiate it out we he finally agrees it is what it is so i'm just like yes awesome so the door is done and then we go inside for some lunch we're having some sandwiches and then i'm doing a couple things on the computer he goes back out to the project and i come out i've been inside sending emails for like 45 minutes i come out he is on his knees futzing with the door not tearing it apart and doing what he wanted but just trying to get it borderline tearing it apart borderline tearing it apart because the guy and again this is both a blessing and a curse ultimately a blessing because everything is

done really right yeah you want him on you yeah he and i are now i hate to say but he and i are now both rooting for that door to literally explode on you one year from now in the middle of the night and be like see told you we should have had attention to detail here i will tell you what

you guys are my dad is obsessed with how it is that you stream the the sports content that you

occasionally stream oh that i yeah i told you yeah because i can't watch i don't have the cable packages to watch the football games here so there are a couple websites which i sometimes listeners will hit me up for that i i professionally i will not share that information because that seems pretty sketchy um yes but they are out there and you can find them and it's not super underground or weird or anything there's sites google it well so you sent me a funny message

yesterday because i was asking because i really wanted to watch the football game but we were going to be out working in the um in the studio and so i was like maybe i can set up a thing because i have a projector i was like i can maybe sort of get it on my laptop and project it up on the wall Or something and so I asked you as a friend not as a Colleague to provide me with Legally If you're listening Beth And so you did and but then You sent a funny note too that was something about Like you know tell my dad it's like what he does With his BBC shows I said I want to join His pirate ship yeah exactly so I told My dad that he laughed for about four straight Minutes and then Because they don't have my Parents know my parents have cable but they're gonna to cut it and my dad honestly andrew i want to tell you for four hours of yesterday was him asking me questions about your system that i don't know the answer to it's like huh well he maybe he must have a mac mini that he um does he have a special laptop i was like i don't know the answer to any of these questions you have captivated my father nice with this way in which you are occasionally able to get sports content um you know with without having the the cable package. I'm going to be putting the two of you in touch. That's good. Where this ends is you actually, you and Genevieve move into the TBT. studio and live there with my dad just bit torrenting and streaming things happily and making sure the doors hang painfully, painfully correct because I was like, this is a really good working door, dad. But the good news, by the way, is that

Can we watch Broadchurch again, Mr. Burbank?

Did you ever have, I don't know, I don't know if you, well, probably not, but like sometimes when I was a kid, I felt like there would be dads, like my friends' dads who I almost would hit it off with more than they would

yeah not like a lot in general yeah i think yeah parents where you yeah because you're also like

you're not really their kid so you're like way more respectful than their kid is yeah it's like you're i mean it's it's set up for you to be more successful as the visiting kid if you're at eddie haskell type like i was but um like i feel like that's going to be you and my dad like you're going to be like you guys are going to be having a great time i'm just going to be over in the corner like this guy sucks why are you so yeah no i mean you know what the funny thing is is um

Well, I don't know if this is funny, but I was telling Genevieve just, I don't know, a couple of weeks ago, I said, I'm developing door envy. And I did say, like, at some point, I want to replace our front door with a more stylish. Oh, man. And I'm not even joking.

Your guy.

Yeah, exactly.

Actually, you know what? Literally, at this point, I could come help you do it because I now definitely want to go pre hung. Right. so like that's just because then otherwise what you have to do is you have to put in the uh although i guess if you already have a door so what was happening what we were working on was it was just two by four framing right there was there had never been a door where we were putting this one so in that case my dad was very insistent let's buy a pre-hung one so that we don't have to also put in the sides where the the hinges for the door attached to and the top And the bottom So maybe with you and Veeves Because you already have a door there And you're just taking it out and replacing it I would just leave that part alone But as far as shimming As far as all of this other stuff I mean that's the other thing too I wouldn't trust myself personally at this point To try too ambitious of a home improvement project But I will tell you after now I think it's a total of three plus weeks Of just sitting there Watching my dad do this stuff Or helping him in as much as I can Or doing some of it myself I do actually know a little bit more About how this stuff goes down Again, I wouldn't say that I'm Like an expert But I know more about Like I think I could probably hang a door now Which I would not have really been able to do Effectively before whatever Yesterday

Yeah, I was thinking about your project Because again, it's such a massive project And you were sharing photos of it And it's just going to be stunning and it's just like so much work what you're doing and it's just beyond my comprehension of how anybody can do that and you know these and i have been saying this since we moved into this house but like our first big project that we identified when we moved in here which is you know getting close to a year now we moved in here in march was like we needed to um you know renovate the basement bathroom the bathroom that i use down here near my office which you know is a fully functioning bathroom with a shower and everything but it's i use it often and i love it it's got a terrible vanity that like i don't know if they got it from a junkyard or whatever they just threw something in there uh as they're getting ready to sell the the house and it was just like it's amazing first of all and i'm sure i say this all the time but it's amazing how the things that just look like super big eyesores or are um a big priority for you in your living space if you don't deal with it immediately it can just you can become blind to it it's like i've been using that bathroom you know for nine months now or whatever and i don't even think about the fact that like oh yeah there's no toilet paper holder i always have to put the toilet paper on the sink if i'm going to the bathroom and like this and like all these things it's like oh whatever you just live with it and it's like oh no no i need to walk in this house again with fresh eyes and be like we need to take care of this bathroom like we bought a vanity in a sink and um i think we still maybe need to buy a mirror but like in our garage is the stuff that we need to start taking apart this bathroom and putting it back together and i kept finding excuses like well it's summertime let's focus on outdoor activities um or or what have you i'm just looking at the clock and i realize we i need to end the story and we need to wrap things up here but um anyway now like we're past the holidays we're past our travel it's the dead of winter like this is it like we need to install this thing and it really should be like you know there's like a five minute youtube video on how to install these things not that it's no work but like it should be one solid day of work maybe a weekend if you have to wait for certain things to dry if you're sealing it up or whatever weekend what is a weekend but um you know you want to maybe in case you screw something up with the plumbing not that it's heavy plumbing or anything but like you know maybe it'll take a couple of weekends who knows but like it's not that big of a deal but like the longer i let it sit the the bigger of a problem

But then I look at like what you guys are doing. I'm like, yeah, I think we can probably just plug and play this vanity and sink. No problem.

Oh, I know. I mean, I just, that's the thing I'm saying is, by the way, I'm just sending a text to kind of forestall the folks that I'm going to be talking to after this for one of my other gigs. So don't, don't, I don't want you to be stressed about our out time, but I, I have to really kind of do some sort of like, I don't know what you'd call it, like mental management of myself. because if i think about how many things still have to happen before the studio is just an empty shell that i can then install a toilet in and then put a vanity in and then get a stove for and then you know like it's so far away and i have to just keep telling myself people have built houses before it has happened and uh so this is a thing that can happen and it's just it just takes time it's not you don't snap your fingers although i did make some videos where i snapped my fingers when it was like crummy, because when it's all done, I'm going to do another video where I snap my fingers. I'm going to edit it together. I've seen this on TikTok. That's going to be really fun. But I have to just kind of like, I have to actually actively not get dispirited if I think about how many things there are to do. Now, what I will say to you about your bathroom, Andrew, is I got two words for you. Mm-hmm. You ready? Spring training. That is a perfect, that is a perfect March project. early March spring training doubleheader maybe intra-squad game or one of those weird games where they send like half the team to go play the Padres and the other half stays at home and plays the Rangers or whatever I don't think they play AL West teams in spring training but like that's a perfect put a meaningless baseball game on the radio and put it in the corner of the bathroom

and get to it you know I think we want to get that completed before then but the spirit of what you're saying could not be more true like i feel like i can identify certain projects that i've done while listening to spring training games like we were just we moved in here during spring training and i painted we had those awful yellow walls that some previous tenant had painted in this laundry room area we have and so that was kind of my first quasi big project when we moved in was to like paint you know clean and paint these walls and like i remember like listening to the spring training games there and like was what's going to happen with kalanick is he ready like all this stuff and like i remember moving out of la and packing up boxes what three four five oh my god like i think it was seven years ago now that we left la that camp oh my god anyway like i remember like i i can identify certain periods of my life and the projects i did with

spring training you're absolutely right there's nothing i can't do if you let me listen to a semi-meaningless baseball game while i'm doing it you know what i mean like you could just give me like the worst most sisyphean task but you're like but you're also going to get to hear um you know a eugenio suarez come up for a you know an at bat that he's only 50 percent into yeah um because he's facing uh you know somebody who's uh probably not going to get make it to the final roster of this other team like i love that there's something special about spring training baseball to me where the stakes are so low that i don't know why i just love it because it's just it's just back It's just the best kind of background. It also means, by the way, that like spring is springing.

Yes, that's, you know, part of it. And you're so excited. You've had a baseball drought for a half a year. And so it's like I don't think there's anything in the sporting world that well, maybe the preseason games for foot for the NFL season for some people who are really into football. But like there is such a mismatch between anticipation for spring training and the actual quality of the product of spring training. Like you cannot be more excited about something that is so mid, you know, right?

Yes. And I think so much, you know, so much more than preseason football, because I think I know what you mean. There are probably some people that are so obsessed with their football team that even the preseason is like maybe with maybe with football, a training camp or something would be maybe even more exciting because it's like you're getting to hear about how the new draft picks are doing. But yeah, like, I don't think there's anything that compares to preseason baseball in terms of the major sports and the excitement that it brings for the people like us who kind of obsess over it. And again, there's also just something about it being on the radio while you're doing a project. It's just it just is the perfect thing. And I had to, I even, I kind of gave, that was part of my pep talk that I was giving myself at times because, by the way, not to get overly detailed about this project, but part of it is I'm getting this deck eventually, hopefully, getting this deck made on the main house. Main house makes it sound like there's like a big, beautiful house and then like an ADU. It's like the slightly less small, weird 1930s cottage, which I'm calling the main house. but in the uh getting ready for that all they've done is just basically

like done a bunch of terracing of the yard, which means it used to be a nice grass thing that looked out on the river and you could sit there and like watch the sunset. And now it's a giant hole with, it's all mud. And it was like torrentially raining for most of last week. And I would just stand there looking at this huge mud hole that has no deck built anywhere near it. And I would start to despair. And then I would think, but you know what? Eventually it's going to be spring and the grass is going to start growing again. there will probably be something resembling a deck here the mariners will be on the radio it's gonna smell different it's gonna look different i was like having to sort of like project myself into that moment to keep myself from getting too bummed out in the in the in the current moment

of time if you were a kid though i don't know what kind of a kid you were but man big cool one big mo right of course big muddy um hole in the ground in the backyard you get your tonka trucks out you get your you get your gi joes you get anything that's in scale with each other which I understand Tonka and G.I. Joes are not in scale with one another. Don't get at me. But, like, I loved the – like, we had our backyard torn up in Valley City because they were, I think, burying some power lines. I think we had power lines on poles going through our back property. At some point, they buried them underground, so there was this big trench that seemed like it was a whole summer. I'm sure it was probably, like, a few weeks. And I just loved going out there and just, like, playing in the dirt with my indoor toys, bringing them outside. Quite thrilling.

Now, if this were – I'm with you. if this were if it were not soaking wet i'm talking like wet wet mud no burial for me no funeral for me just put me in the wet wet mud it's like yeah when i was a kid like if there was something like that that was dry it was like a big dirt trench and you could like make play army men in it or something i would be so into it um it's just it's the combination of it having previously been something that was kind of nice to be on me and my dad like the last time we were doing this we would make a bonfire or like a fire every night and we'd sit out there and look at the stars and whatever it was just like it is really this house this whole project is really at its lowest point right now um and because it you know you have to take it all apart before you can start putting it back together and i'm just looking at it like it's just so crappy right now and it's also going to be so expensive to rebuild it and i get all anxious because i'm like am i going to run out of money before it's or even borrowing power before it's actually like back and usable i might just end up with this like weird i don't know so anyway um point is i'm really looking

forward to spring training yes here i go once again with the email every week i hope that it's

from a female oh man it's not from a female oh all right we must have a healthy helping of emails and females from our time away, but maybe just like one or two of them before we hit the road? Yeah, you know, I have

one that's quite a long story so I'm not going to play that now. Let me just play one shorty for you. Can you remind me of the player who passed away, the NFL player who passed away right before the holidays or kind of during the holidays who was the immaculate reception Oh, Franco Harris. Franco Harris. And there is some question about whether or not that immaculate reception that bounced off the hands of another player into his hands, whether or not that ball actually hit the ground or whether or not it was a fair catch or not.

Have I ticked off our Yinzer listeners, i.e. our listeners from Pittsburgh?

Nobody's angry, but we did have somebody who was doing some real journalism for us years and years and years ago reporting in now. This is listener John.

Hey, beautiful people of TBTL. This is John Smith from Tacoma. I've never called in before, but I had a story about the intersection of two things that you were talking about yesterday, Las Vegas and the Immaculate Reception. I was in Las Vegas in 1999, the very first time I had ever been there, and I walked by a high-stakes roulette table that had one person playing at it, and that just happened to be Franco Harris. and I a huge Steelers fan I went up and asked him for his autograph and while he was writing it down I said Franco the immaculate reception did that ball touch the ground or not and he looked at me straight in the eyes and said shit you know it didn't so I believe Franco have a great day

that's a great story that's great Franco Harris must have gotten asked about that

constantly but i love that john was able i wouldn't have the you know what i mean like i would be so timid i think to first of all challenge somebody like that and then also think oh well you probably get asked this all the time but i love the fact that john because such a good story that john

just asked him and he answered that's good enough for me yeah good enough for me i'm willing to you know because honestly like i i had you know i had sort of heard the scuttlebutt like did it happen or not uh and but then when i watched the video and we talked about this back at the time there's nothing definitive that shows it not being a catch it's just we just don't have like you know the super mo that we would have now where you'd be able to know definitively

i kind of well we don't even have a good angle on it there are only like two cameras remember we were re-watching it and even in the replay it's almost it could not be more conspiratorial because like the way the camera is the goal post gets right in the way of the moment totally but

But I like, again, because this is a game that happened before I was born, but I wasn't following football. And it's two teams that I don't have any particular investment in. I kind of love that we don't exactly know or that they didn't exactly know. Now, if it were the Seahawks and it were a pivotal play, like if it was the interception we lost the Super Bowl on and then we didn't have a good angle and then everyone was like, isn't it kind of fun not knowing? I'd be like, F that. I'd be like Franco Harris. Shit. you know it's terrible not knowing yes but um but since this is something from long ago i i kind of like the idea that it'll just always be one of those things yeah definitely and just it was a

different generation of football too things have just changed so so much but all right let's leave

it there for emails i think do you have a tight five hours tomorrow for us to do the no point because i know i have i mean not just what's up with the seahawks and also the you know how it is that they got into the playoffs but just kind of the league at large uh the press conference did

you watch all of sunday night football last night no i did not um and i was i stuck around i went to the eagles to watch the seahawks game and then stuck around so like didn't really you know was talking with people watching sunday night football but not like with the volume up or very closely

um there was um oh phooey i think his name is uh jamal williams this running back for uh the lions who uh scored two really important touchdowns and had an amazing game and was former uh green bay player former green bay guy right yeah he he gave a press conference or he gave uh you know he was being interviewed on the field afterwards um because he had had a pivotal role in the game i want to play this tomorrow during the no point if i can find it he gave a a press conference again it's not a press conference he wasn't like standing at the podium but he gave comments to uh the the person interviewing him afterwards the sunday night football you know correspondent whatever field person that was unlike anything i've ever seen in my life andrew and that's all i can say It was incredible what happened I can't believe no one's talking about it Because it was one of the weirder, wilder Post-game interviews

So this is on the field immediately after This isn't the press conference, okay, I'll look it up

It was really Actually, don't look it up, I'll find it I want to play it for you tomorrow Actually, do look it up because then you can have thoughts

Because I want to know whether or not Well, now I know I'm looking for something But there have been times where you and I have Accidentally caught this remember there was a eugenio suarez like uh post game oh yeah interview that you and i both happen to hear on the am radio in different cities and then we both happen to bring it up to each other like yeah that was really strange so i think you and i tend to be on the same page but it's interesting that this is not some viral moment that is being written up and well i'd notice it's

on mediaite lions jamal williams goes from sobbing to trash talking in wildly emotional viral post

game interview. Okay, so it did go viral.

Well, they're calling it viral, but also I'm not really see... I don't know. I would have expected to wake up this morning and have it be practically the only thing anyone's talking about because it was really something. But anyway, we'll talk about it tomorrow and lots more after we do tomorrow's TBTL. We'll do a no point. Nice. Looking forward to it. For folks who care. Alright, that's going to do it for today's show. It's nice to be back. Thanks, everyone for listening to the Winter Games and joining us today, and we hope for the foreseeable future. I've got to keep doing this show for the rest of my life, Andrew, if I'm going to pay for this remodeling project. My dad just Venmo'd me the bill, by the way. I'm like, really? Dude? You're charging me for the Romex? Okay, that's fair. We'll be back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio. Until then, have a great Monday. Take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

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