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Punslingers, we come up with pun names for your business. We don't do doggy daycare, haircutting places, or faux. Oh, Italian restaurant. Okay, that sounds good. Where are you going to be located? Okay, get your number. Okay, Jeej, Italian restaurant. Great. All right, so, what do you got, Jeej?

You know, it could be construed as controversial, but it's a great restaurant name. Planned Pizza Hood.

Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah. Love it. I thought of Pizza Paul and Mary. Love it. That's good. Ah, thinking...

Should we think more on the Italian thing?

Venice the Menace? Trust me? Like, trust me?

Out of Parm's Way.

Oh. Right? That's really terrible.

Yeah.

I've got one. What about Spaghetti Museum? Spaghetti Museum?

Is that a pun?

Lord of the Pasta Rings. How about that? Wait, what was it again? Lord of the... The movie is The Hobbit.

Okay, I've got a movie one. Five Easy Pizzas.

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excited to be here uh equally excited for you guys to truly take in how physically imposing i am so whenever you guys are ready to start let's do it i yell at you because i love you

you listen to me because you love me is this a weird dynamic yeah sure from the outside you don't have a choice if you don't like it you can quit that's a call from upstairs you don't have to make rude noises that's all right i don't mind

all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a thursday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live that's a tuna bro my name is luke burbank i am your host Are you sure? That's what they said on Ask Jeeves. Comedy from the Hollywood Broadcast Center, right here in Portland, Oregon, where we have arrived at episode 3867 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. This happens to me probably about every 300 to 400 episodes. I'll be typing in the new number and it will just occur to me what a large number is large, wait big and large are different, when you're talking about a number being bigger, I think it just means like physically bigger or something, like there's a I remember in math when I was a kid a teacher wanting to clarify something about that anyway, it strikes me how many times we've done this friggin thing Like, 3,867 is a lot of these. Does anybody really need that? Does America need 3,867 times of this happening? I don't know, but here we are. By the way, speaking of this show...

You know, this show is like a dynasty.

It's a simple process, podcasting, really. Major corporations create fake news events, and then we cover them and give them exactly what they're asking for in a segment that we're calling Earned Media Spotlight and in traditional TVTL fashion. We promoted this on yesterday's episode, but now we're getting to it today. Hopefully. Also, I'm a big fan of the comedian Nate Bargetsy and he was on Fallon recently and he was talking about something, basically being a kind of middle-aged dad type of dude. Who is my daddy and what does he do? He was talking about it in a way that was very reminiscent of something we've talked about on this year's program, So we'll play you that tape because Nate Bargetsy is kind of a delight. Speaking of delightful things, it's a Thursday edition of the show, a.k.a. Blur's Day.

Blur's Day tonight.

So we'll do a couple of Blur's Day messages. And we'll talk to this guy, the longest-running Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He comes to the program today with one burning question and one question only.

Hey, where's the freaking gabagoo?

He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. Do you remember on yesterday's show when... Who can forget? Feels like it was an hour ago. It feels like it was just an hour ago. Which it was. Just before lunch.

Let me just tell everyone very quickly that yes, this is the Thursday edition of the show, but we are recording it on Wednesday. So if there's any funkiness, or when I tell a story about getting my hair cut, which I'm going to after Andrew is finished, I realize I wasn't getting my hair cut at 8 in the morning. I was getting my hair cut at noon on Wednesday, which is what today is.

You got your hair cut between shows? I did. Oh, interesting. This is not a big deal, but I just wanted to sort of close the loop on something. I told you yesterday when we were talking about the story about the high school in Massachusetts who's... lights or which lights had not gone off in like since 2000 or 2021 i should say um and i told you that that reminded me of a conversation i was having with somebody about how like here in seattle certain municipal lights are controlled by some out of state facility in like the southwest somewhere and i couldn't remember the details of it well here's the deal i still can't remember the details of it but i spent the last hour texting people kind of like you know like the trope in in the movie or tv show when somebody gets an std and they have to like kind of let all their uh partners or former partners know just in case i was texting people i'm like hey so this is weird but did we have any conversations in the past year about how the lights at green lake and seattle they're controlled out of arizona or something along those lines and i was getting a lot of um i would say cold whatever the digital equivalent of cold stairs are i got a bite when i finally reached out to the longest running cobro of my life genevieve she says that yes that rings a bell we were we were having um some sort of a converse some sort of a conversation about that She doesn't remember why or the details, but the good news is it wasn't a dream, and basically where I am in my life right now, I take that as a win.

I remembered a dream very vividly the other day, which never happens to me, and it was blowing my mind. uh just not the dream wasn't particularly involved taco bell and the band rem um but it was one of those things where i i just happened to wake up so quickly after the dream had happened well actually that's not true i woke up i didn't remember anything at some point becca mentioned rem sleep and i went wait a minute i was just having a dream earlier today that i was doing some kind of a It was a combination radio show Sorry, this is just happening now It was in a conference room, it was a radio show REM was there performing, but I had ordered Taco Bell And there wasn't enough for REM And they were Low-key bummed, and I was kind of Surprised because I thought the band REM Would be above wanting to eat Taco Bell

Indeed, I would expect Michael Michael Stipe to not eat Meat, in fact, I don't know

If that's the case. Well, they do have vegetarian offerings At Taco Bell. Oh, that's true, I suppose But just generally, yeah, I'm with you. It just doesn't seem like his deal. And so the reason that it was interesting was because the Taco Bell was because Becca and I had door dashed Taco Bell quite late on Saturday night because it was her birthday last weekend and we had gotten an Airbnb and we had been out having a fun time. And then we got into a lift and had them take us to a Taco Bell that was closed. So then I door dashed it back to the Airbnb from some other location. So that's why I had Taco Bell on the brain. I forget what the conference room was related to. But, I mean, that would be a weird place to be hanging out with REM while they're performing. That was related to something else that was on my mind. And, again, something else with the band REM. What I noted in this was this was three real-time things that were coming together. Oh, you know what it was? the weird office conference room was because this airbnb had you know it was like a had a couple bedrooms and a living room and then it had an office like a an office room that had like a fax machine and office chairs and a built-in desk and like the kind of thing you would have no use for as an airbnb renter maybe and although you and i have

rented airbnbs for our work before that that could have been handy in yes but i think that's

kind of specific i'm sure you're right that's what the owners of this home were thinking was why not you know i guess have this available to people if they're going to rent this for a week and they want an office although i'll be honest with you this was a home that was perched on beautiful lake oswego and if i was going to be working there i'd be sitting at the kitchen island with my laptop that's just me yeah that makes sense but um but so this is what was so crazy in this very kind of like and it almost looked like an office that would be an office you could rent at a marriott or something like a like an alcove that you could you know sign up for and then have your conference call in like it was very official office it wasn't just like some any old home office and we were looking for some batteries in there because the remote control for the fireplace wasn't working and i was just like there's got to be batteries and as i'm looking through this office which we had there was nowhere in the directions you're not supposed to go into this room andrew i start opening cupboards And I see taped to the inside of the cabinet, the person who owns the home, who runs a local business where there was lots of like refrigerator magnets and other things indicating what the business was. You open the cabinet and taped inside was all of the bank account information for the business, for the guy, including handwritten all of his passwords. Oh, no. Wells Fargo, Chase, his insurance information, every single thing that you would not want people to, strangers to know about your life was printed out, taped up, and then handwritten. His insurance policies, his everything about this person's life was there with the passwords begging to be identity thefted.

and i'm sorry that i kind of missed one key detail here this was a previous renter you think or this is the person who no this is the person who owns the home oh wow yeah and and all we could say was

like well first of all how far can we get with this guy's stuff before you think they figure out it was of course that's the first because he seemed like he's doing pretty nice he had a house on lake oswego sure but um also it i was just shocked i was like oh so somebody really lives here remember we kind of ran into not exactly this but when we stayed in denver and we were doing the tbtlathon we also found ourselves in the position where sometimes if you airbnb a place it's not something that someone lives in maybe it's a guest house or a tiny home or just a home that's exclusively for airbnb use and then sometimes you find yourself living in someone's actual space um and this was that case but what i was so shocked by was why don't you just put all your stuff in this office that 99 percent of the people renting will never use and frankly is weird it makes it's something i just didn't fit with everything else in the house and why don't you put a lock on that door and why don't you lock it on up and then you can have all your passwords in there that you want like i kind of felt like reaching out to the guy and going you know that this is you're putting yourself in a lot of danger here with handwriting in all of your passwords on

all of your stuff yeah i mean luke i'm literally if i seem somewhat distracted i'm literally taking our now quarterly cybersecurity awareness test as we speak. By the way, I could use some help here. Which one is more dangerous, misinformation or disinformation?

That is a tough question to answer. I would say probably disinformation because disinformation is actively being presented so as to deceive you or misinformation could just be your colleague overheard the wrong thing or misunderstood something.

Now, I should tell you it's a multiple choice, but I kind of knew before I even read the multiple choice. Now, I haven't submitted my answer yet. By the way, there's this is only a let me just give you a little bit of background here. So this is a new way of cybersecurity, a new way of presenting cybersecurity training to us, the employees of American public media. Probably shouldn't be talking about this on the show. I don't care. But the old system made it impossible to skip ahead in the training. But this new system It's like a series of videos That you watch and then there's some slides With some more information that you can just read On your own and then you skip ahead every now and then You answer a question that you're not really Judged on it's just a way of keeping you Engaged you can skip the videos Here they're like three minutes long I hit Play and then I just skip all the way to the end And then at the end they show three Key takeaways from the video that you Supposedly just watched so I just Zipped through this as fast as possible and didn't really watch the videos, kind of looked at the bullet points at the end, and now Luke is the final test, the final boss. It's kind of what I always ask them to do, which is like, if we can answer this without sitting through the training, let us just take the test. And right now, really putting my money where my mouth is because the final boss is five questions and I must get four right in order to pass. I don't know what happens if I don't pass. I might. They might open up the moon door for me. I'm hoping that's not the case. Make the bad employee fly. I'm not exactly sure what happens, but obviously I don't want to deal with the repercussions. So I do feel like, OK, I got what I wanted. I was able to skip through the videos. And now I just need to get four out of five right. I got the first one right. I can't remember what it was. this one is what's more dangerous misinformation or disinformation and i believe the answer is going to be both because this is very much the tone of these kinds of uh teachings right these kinds of uh seminars or whatever it's kind of like yes misinformation is accidentally spread and disinformation is you know spread on purpose but both are ways of spreading bad information around the internet you've got an option for both and now i'm looking at the i kind of had a feeling just reading the question, but then yeah, of course the last one is, they are equally dangerous because they both spread. false information i will choose that one i will hit submit and i dodged another bullet i feel like this is the closest i ever get to being indiana jones i just need two more right out of the last three do you want to just take the rest of the quiz while we listen along we could do that i also had a question about dreams and then it's not a specific i wasn't going to tell you about dreams but i want to know if this ever happens to you let's go back and forth i don't want too much dream talk or too much cyber security talk so let's take these two things and and slice them up right it's the saber cut you're listening to here you ever have i don't think you are as interested

in remembering your dreams as much as i am but it's almost well apparently i am now because i

just bored everybody with that story but only because that's one of the rare times i can remember my what was my recently lived experience getting into my dreams the reason my dreams are so and interesting to me is because they seem to never be related to anything in my real life,

but that one was very related. This morning I had a dream that I was waiting in a line somewhere or like in a little lobby somewhere, and there was a couple, a young woman and I assume her partner, and a Madonna song was on in the lobby, and she started telling him how nobody really knows about the first Madonna record and the record that everybody thinks is the first one is really the second one. And then I I found it really interesting. So I turned to her. I'm like, oh, really? What's on that first record? And then it became clear that she had no idea what she was talking about. She was just repeating some like room. She didn't know her shit at all. And I was like, you don't know Madonna kids these days. Anyway, what I was going to say is often when I wake up, I I have these moments and these and I will talk about our dreams. One of our first questions is like, you know, how'd you sleep? Do you have any weird dreams? We often have weird dreams. And it drives me bananas when I get that feeling when I just wake up and I know that I was just having an intense dream. You can feel it. You can sometimes almost feel somewhat exhausted by it, but you can't quite remember it. And your brain will work sort of over time and it might latch onto something. And if it latches onto one thing from your dream, it'll unlock the memory of the entire thing sometimes. And it is like when Becca said REM sleep. And then I thought the band REM Taco Bell conference room. Exactly. And that's that's exactly what I want to say. That's my favorite feeling. I thankfully to the audience, I don't remember what this dream was. But like a few weeks ago, I remember waking up and having that feeling of like, oh, what was it? What was it? I know it was intense and whatever. I gave up. I got up. I think I like took a shower. I think I went on with my day for about an hour. then i went in the kitchen and i grabbed something to wash it like a dirty dish or something and whatever it was i grabbed to wash maybe it was the coffee pot it played a huge role in the dream and all of a sudden boom like from an hour after waking up i remembered everything about my dream it was the most satisfying feeling it's like mental pooping sorry how do we feel with

the fact that the oh that's just the end of the music file i thought that i thought you did that recording was revolting was rebelling to the idea of you saying mental pooping i thought that you killed that music no that just did it on its own you talked right up to the post but of course don't forget this is also the piece of tape that has a random like gap in it about two minutes and 30 seconds and that's where i thought we were i thought that uh the music had just like said we need a minute because we just heard Andrew say mental pooping now this next question makes me

nervous because it says which of the following is true of strong passwords choose all that apply and the first one is they use a complicated mix of random symbols numbers and letters now usually you would say yes to that because that's what we've been trained but I believe in me quickly skimming through the materials I believe it said complicated symbols numbers and letters are great for security but they're very hard to remember and it recommended it sticking with a unusual phrase that you can remember that nobody would ever guess and i think that i'm not supposed to click that one but it seems really counterintuitive it seems like i should my entire digital life they've been telling me a random mix of symbols numbers and letters right i think it is that one

Because I don't think in this current moment of time, I don't think that the people setting up the passwords care if it's easy for you to remember it. Like, I feel like in the earlier days, that would have been kind of like a life hack. It'd be like, hey, come up with a phrase that only you would know. Now they're like, if it's a phrase that's ever been thought by a human on planet Earth, it's not strong enough. Like, I think that they're not concerned with your level of convenience or your ability to remember it. they're concerned with it being As random as random can be. So that would be my argument.

I would have argued that too, except I think I just read something that said, don't worry about that. Don't worry about that, sweetie. Just make sure that nobody can remember, nobody can guess it. So I'm going to check the one that says they're easy to remember but hard to guess. They're combined with multi-factor authentication, and they typically contain at least 16 characters. I'm going to choose all of those. i'm leaving off random symbols numbers and letters and it says they are used for multiple accounts obviously they don't want us to use the same password for multiple accounts i'm hovering over submit am i i'm probably literally breaking some rules by publishing this um publicly but let's see here submit correct remember that while complex passwords are difficult to crack they're also difficult to remember strong passwords are easy to remember but hard to guess there we go I've already got three out of the five right, Luke. Wow. There you go. I don't have to keep doing this.

I guess you'll be hosting the cybersecurity training for a certain software on the east side.

That didn't make you look great either, did it? No, it really didn't. Wow.

Might be. So wait, are you going to stop now because you're worried that you're giving away trade secrets?

I mean, is this illegal what I'm doing here, Luke? Illegal? No. Will it get us fired? Probably. Okay, good. You receive a phone call from someone in Human Resources who politely says that our organization is performing an audit. Could you not please just literally read the quiz on air?

You explain to them, we've gotten rid of all the listeners, so there's no danger.

You get a call from someone in Human Resources that says, did you have any interesting dreams last night? You can say, yes, thanks for asking. You can go into great detail.

The entire person drifting off to slumber themselves as you disclose the dream you had about the band R.E.M.

Okay, you know what? I'll stop now. I have two more. I'll let you know after the break if I passed or if I'm flying out the moon door. How about that? Now I'm nervous.

I am glad, though. I'm glad that they let you skip ahead because inevitably when I do have to do this, which will happen, you know, I'm glad to know that I can just get, you know, not have to watch all the videos. even as a person who works on making those videos for a different company do you even know how to get

to the link to take this quiz is the question absolutely not okay under no circumstances but

it'll it'll it'll make its way into my life when it becomes absolutely necessary when it barges

when it barges down the door and you can no longer ignore it yeah it's funny because i you know i

don't interact a ton with with a lot of folks at apm because we're kind of over like in our own little world here and they're probably i would say there are probably 30 people at american public media who are even aware that there's somebody named luke burbank who's alive maybe it's a little larger because apm on demand our division we've you know still got a few friends over there from back in the day but i would say at least 10 of the people at apm who are aware that a person named luke burbank exists they are only aware of it as this person is a major annoyance in my life

that's the person who just called me from hr right this is like like like there are some people that

i only have communication with when they are sending me a like it's all the subject line is in bold red like you need to do this and they're not somebody that i work with on a weekly basis they're like a person in some it compliance position or whatever and it's just like my name only comes up when they're trying to get the last few stragglers to just do something so that they They can finally clear it off their plate. I just got one wrong.

I've got one. If I get the next one wrong, I'm in trouble.

I see. So you're going to take the quiz, but you're not going to tell us what the questions are.

That one I found confusing. It was like, you know, somebody from HR calls and starts asking you about a bunch of personal information, like saying, hey, we're trying to get our employee records up to date. Sounds like a no. Right. Well, the options were like, it's clearly a scam, hang up. And another one was like, they sound nice. Give them all your information. Okay. And another one was like, ask them to send you an email. That's your preferred way of communicating. And then the last one was just hang up and report it immediately. And I almost did that. But the tone of like just hang up seemed rude in case it actually was somebody from HR who's just not following proper protocol. So I'm like, hey, send me an email. That seems like a way of kicking the can down the road. Like, I can give anybody my work email address. That's not a security threat. So I was like, just send me an email. Then I can look at who this person is. And then I can go to my supervisor and say, is this legit? I clicked that. That was very wrong. I was supposed to hang up. Apparently, without saying goodbye, just hang up and report the incident. That's what I should have done. didn't do it and now here i am down to one question separating me and the moon door

importantly we know that you've now lost the gig of hosting the cyber training for a certain software congratulations luke and thank god because let me tell you to call back to yesterday's episode andrew having uh foam sprayed in to your future radio studio ain't cheap yeah so i need

those side gigs to keep coming don't dump it pump it like that uh cement that concrete hat i used to

have as a kid said forgot about that sounds was that basically like people were just dumping their leftover cement places and just creating like a giant no block of cement it was a it was a it was

like a kind of a trucker style hat i had tons of them growing up oh it was that was for the toilet my dad nope my dad would bring them home from like various like either like uh either i guess customers or um vendors from work you know it was just kind of like you know 1980s rust belt swag right or swag i guess um and one of them was for a company i can't remember what it was but their whole thing was don't don't just pour your concrete out of the big trucks with the rolling barrel on the back of it we have a pumping mechanism and it was like a truck that had like a bunch of pipes and you could kind of extend it to a different place and the tagline was don't dump it pump it and uh that was a hat that i used to wear as a kid it was red it was

very red do you know my dad and i literally had a conversation a week ago about about the cement truck pumping technology that would have been exactly in line with that hat i really want to

hang out with your dad i feel like he and i have more in common than you two do yeah you're one of

those classic cigar smoking guys who knows about construction well i was i was referring more to our

our uh legally gray area of content your love of content yes exactly well i told you he is

fascinated with your system and would really like to know some of your tip techniques and tips and tricks we were because you know the the house uh that i'm i'm remodeling uh i'm having a deck put on and actually there is now andrew the structure of a deck there's not decking which means that on tuesday remember i did the show from out there tuesday morning i got up because i stayed out there and i was so excited because the structure of the deck is there meaning all of the like you know support stuff but it's not you can't there's nothing you really shouldn't walk on it because it's not there isn't decking and there's not even like sheets of plywood there's nothing to stand on but i was so excited i wanted to have my coffee and i wanted to go out there and so i got up on this thing and i'm walking and i was realizing i am actually in a certain amount of danger on this thing because i am not 23 anymore and like there would have been a time i mean this is the kind of thing that a young a teenager somebody like that could you could scamper around on this no problem i mean there are all of these support you know beams that are 12 inches apart it's there's a lot of stuff to step on but if you were to step in between those things you'd really take it right to the family jewels right or something worse if i fell i mean this deck is probably i don't know eight feet ten feet off the ground like because it's coming off the sort of middle of the house i was out there with my coffee and i suddenly i made it out to this one part and then i started drinking my coffee and then i started getting kind of the fear because i was like i don't know if i'm going to be able to work my way off of this thing safely that sounds terrifying new territory for me you know oh i got the last one correct good oh god but we were talking about not not dumping it, pumping it, because my dad was asking how did they get the stuff, because they had to pour footings for this deck, they had to pour a bunch of concrete that you then attach the wood to, because this is a very substantial deck and my dad said they must have had a pump on that truck, because otherwise there's no way to get it down there and I said, I don't know, I wasn't here and I don't have a hat that I can refer to, and now I do because that's exactly what we're talking about the pumping of concrete, because they didn't used to have that in the day like when they made the pyramids and uh it was much harder before they had

that technology you're 100 sure they didn't have that when they made the pyramids no i'm not sure is there another hat about that let me let me go through my collection really quickly no i think

you are right i think it came out a little bit after that now um let me just quickly update you andrew on one of my rudy's run-ins you know my my classic rudy's run-ins that i like to have oh the hair cuttery not the doggery yes no the doggery and i are still cool although we don't see each other a ton but we're on good terms and i would say that the me and the place where i get my haircut in portland we're on good terms too actually you know what we're halfway into the show already boy between dream talk cyber training and not dumping it but pumping it we really we're eating through this hour let's do this let's take a quick break and then i want to tell you about my rudy's run-in and we will get to our top stories in a moment here on tbtl hello and welcome to top story so as i mentioned we are actually pre-recording the thursday episode of the program because i have had some last minute travel thrown at me for a story that i'm doing for cbs about andrew of all things gas stoves versus induction yeah yeah so i'm going to be as this is being released on thursday i'm going to be in san francisco interviewing um some chefs who now swear by induction cooking and i think we're going to be talking to some city officials in oakland where they've actually banned new apartment buildings and new you know dwellings from putting in gas stoves because of the evidence that um you know it's not great for you this is also a very politicized issue because the gas lobby is formidable and they have been do you know that now you're cooking with gas was a thing that was made up by the natural gas industry

that sort of rings a bell i could be making it up but um that well let me just put it this way it doesn't surprise me right exactly like there's a even the fact that it's called natural gas oh yeah that's a brand sounds nice doesn't it oh well it's natural natural gas like i should

probably i should drink it probably yeah probably it's good for the skin sure absolutely oh you've got that healthy natural gas glow like it's you don't even think about it because you just grow up with it but there is a ton of of lobbying and other things behind that anyway so um i'm going to be running down to San Francisco as this is being released, and they're going to be filming me, and I realized that my hair was getting a little straggly and scraggly, so I thought, let me, in between our recording sessions, let me quickly bounce over to my local Rudy's, and I've told you that the Rudy's that is closest to me, I've actually sort of stopped going to it because there is a person there who has cut my hair before, and And I really like this person as a person, but they get they get so it's I believe this person identifies as male. He gets so enthusiastic about our conversations that it gets like the volume of his voice gets louder and louder and louder.

And you feel self-conscious with the other people in the building.

I feel self-conscious and I also find it just to be a little bit just the slightest bit unsettling. it's a kind of a it's an enthusiasm that's almost like unchecked in a way that's a little bit like um but again this person is he's actually very smart and fun to talk to and a good at cutting hair it's just this one aspect of the relationship that's a little bit hard for me so i usually go to one of the ones that's across town well because today i was pressed for time and they had an appointment right in between our tapings i was like i'll go to the close one And I get over there, and I walk in, and I am stressed for time, though, because I basically have a very tight 30-minute window while you're posting the show so I can get back here so we can record the next episode so we can both be on our way. And I walk in for the appointment, and the person who's at the front desk says, what's your name? And I tell them my name, and they say, okay, well, he just started. By the way, I've been assigned to the guy who's enthusiastic. of course. They're like, well, he's just starting on this haircut so he'll be with you right after that. And I was already a little bit like, oof, that's tough because I am here at the time of my appointment that I've made and somebody else is just beginning their haircut. I don't know how this is going to time out exactly. But I'm like, whatever, it's fine. If Andrew and I have to dial up five minutes late, it's not the end of the world and I need to get this done and it's fine. Life is going to go on.

because you know i was pretty flexible today too for whatever that's worth right i would have told you if i was like okay but i gotta you know i've got an appointment of my own after this like you

know that was not it was more selfishly motivated because i i don't have an appointment but now because all of a sudden this travel is jump is dumped on me it's just throwing a bunch of other things into chaos for me so selfishly i was like i get that i get the haircut i go back i record the tbtl i get uh i go and i do the other things i don't know why i turned into colonel clink there

but i did i thought you were watching too many verizon commercials with paul giamatti with paul

giamatti what the hell are they doing it's a really it's a it's a kind of a mystifying campaign

where he's ebenezer scrooge and then he's einstein i missed the scrooge ones i heard about it but like those i just don't know what they're doing they take as i mentioned in the text chain and Nobody responded several football Sundays ago. Verizon is just like, you know, they take it as a challenge. They say, we're going to take your most beloved performance. and put them in our commercials until you hate them. Cecily Strong so far has been able to write it. She's not specifically irritating in these commercials, but Thomas Middleditch, I went into those commercials liking him, and they make you, they're just like, oh, you like Thomas Middleditch? What if we have him in a bunch of Verizon commercials and make him a total detestable character? And then these Paul Giamatti, what are they doing with him? He is a national treasure. Get out of the Verizon commercials. i want to feel happy when i see paul giamatti i hadn't thought of it that way but i think you

make a very very good point that is a very weird casting to not have him be paul i don't know who i it would also be weird if you can you just be the guy from sideways yeah i love that version

can he be pig virus from howard stern private parts w nbc wow he must have been pretty young then i've never seen that movie but that goes back a ways anyway so you were on a story sorry

i'm just a little i'm a little these are the moments so i'll throw something else in the mix i don't think it's going to happen but as you and i are recording this they were the people at cbs were also asking me if i could somehow go to hawaii this weekend to interview nicholas shay on the set of the tv show love is blind why you mean just a totally separate thing totally unrelated to gas stoves wouldn't it be like hilarious they were like could we we really want to get nicholas shay's opinion on this gas versus induction thing i mean maybe if he was

really passionate about one or the other and was like a celeb you know using a celebrity to like

make tiktok anyway anyway so they were saying right they were this is an unreal it's a show about base or it's a story about um reality dating programs and as the one of the biggies right now is this show love is blind that nick and vanessa lachey co-host or whatever and i guess they film in hawaii and they were like could you go to hawaii and i thought i don't think i can do that but i'm also trying to look at the dates on my phone because it's like who's going to turn down a trip to hawaii for work and um all this stuff is going on as i'm walking into the rudy's and as i'm feeling all of these scheduling things kind of really close in on me and it's all my own doing i could just say no also my dad's showing up at the house on saturday he and i are supposed to be pulling electrical wiring through the future tbtl studio like there's a bunch of stuff going on it's all colliding it's all my own fault because i'm the one that schedules all this stuff but i walk into this rudy's and and somehow my brain has said the only way that the rest of my life can be okay and i mean the rest of my life i mean the next fingers crossed 40 years of my life if i make it that far the only way the next 40 years of my life will be okay is if this rudy's haircut goes off without a hitch not that i'm trying to put too much pressure on the situation other than that you're pretty chill and these are the times when i realize how deeply out of step with portland i am just as a place because everyone is just kind of like i don't think anyone has anywhere to be in portland like i mean the whole joke with portlandia is you know it's where the young go to retire i don't know there's a there is a lack of urgency in portland that is probably much better for the human soul but that is sometimes runs up against the the crises that i have created for my own damn self with because of my own kind of bullshit right so i walk into this rudy's in the midst of a self-created crisis and it's a crisis that does not really in this moment want Portland to Portland as hard as it was when I walked in. There are three people there. One, the person who's going to be cutting my hair who is the guy, again, who is a little bit boisterous, but that's fine, who is starting a haircut at the time when my haircut is supposed to be starting. There's another person at the front desk who's crocheting. There's another person who actually greeted me when I came in. I'm not sure what they're doing exactly, but there's three people here. There's one person getting there haircut there's me and my haircut is not starting i'm a little bit like okay so i go and i sit down and i'm kind of waiting oh also there's no cell service there for some reason so i think oh i'll jump on the wi-fi and i walk over and i i never actually asked for the wi-fi anywhere because most of the time your cell phone works you know you can do what you need to do but i'm trying to like check flights from san francisco to hawaii if i have to do that and my phone's not working so i go i walk over and i go um what's the uh wi-fi and the people that are there the person crocheting

and the other person look at me and they go we have no idea and i just wondered how could you have no idea about that must come up all the time there's something called rudy's guest i don't say that but they both go yeah rudy's guest doesn't work you know it seems especially weird if it's

a place where if you have no reception there maybe people with other plans or other carriers do but there's a good chance that a lot of people if not everybody last

cell coverage there and that this is literally a waiting room like that that seemed that i gotta say that seems really strange to me because if you're in a place that notoriously doesn't have cell connectivity there's usually wi-fi and it'll be publicly displayed that's really strange like because what we're i mean listen i kind of i kind of like the idea of people being able to wait without having their nose in their phone like yes we should be able to survive that way but like it is kind of funny like is this the one place in portland oregon like where people just like

look at each other while they're waiting well i was like uh so the the i said the rudy's guest um you don't know the password that and they said yeah that one doesn't work and then they said well let's go we'll go check in the back to see if we can figure something out so they both go and they

walk to the back so they're trying to be helpful they're not dismissive they're trying to be helpful but it's weird like how does this how has this never come that's it how is there not a post

it no how's not posted on the wall like that was a thing nobody was being kind of like i don't know man it's not my problem like it wasn't that vibe it was just kind of like uh i was a little surprised like you said this hadn't come up pretty recently for for folks here so while the both of the people that have been at the front desk are in the back co-investigating the wi-fi situation the phone rings now the only person who's in the area is the boisterous guy who's mid haircut so he runs over and answers the phone i was really hoping you would have answered the phone i didn't think too busy practicing my questions for nick lachey on the set of love is blind so he goes um the guy answers the phone and he's just such a sweet friendly guy he's a really good good person and like i said a fun interesting person to talk to but he brings that to every conversation so he picks up the phone and he's chatting with the person and he's chatting with the person and then he's like going through clearly i think this person had a lot of sort of scheduling questions about when uh people could when they could get a haircut and what the different days look like and and and the the boisterous guy is now deep in the scheduling in the calendar of this rudy's and I know it sounds like an exaggeration but it was at least a 10 minute conversation because I know this because I went outside to make, because I couldn't get on the wifi, I went outside to just try to make a call to one of the producers that I'm working with I felt like, well we'll just talk through some of this stuff because like trying to email them in text is not going to really work so I got a signal down the street I had a fairly substantial phone conversation, I came back the boisterous guy is still at the front desk So, in other words, zero hair is being cut on the guy who was getting his hair cut when my appointment was supposed to start. And the one person who probably would be best if they were doing that is now at the computer with the other two people who have now returned just looking over his shoulder. And I just thought, this is not the best way for this to get worked out.

You've got to find another place to go.

Well, but here's the thing, Andrew. so eventually whatever needed to happen happens uh the the effusive guy goes back effusively finishes the haircut and it actually doesn't take that long i probably it probably is like my haircut was supposed to start at 12 30 it probably starts at 12 48 and i don't have that much hair and I don't need that much of a haircut and I just say yeah just like a number four on the sides and then if you could just kind of like you know clean up the back that's really what I'm looking for and my guy is like absolutely and he does a really nice job with it and we're having an interesting conversation about music he's he actually wants to talk about Nick Cave which means I finally got to have that conversation I still don't know that story but that's something I was promoting on this program for about four different episodes and never got to and then he said something really interesting he was like you know he goes i feel like at some point it's going to be possible to make pretty much every style of music with just one person and software and he goes and i really wonder if not needing a band is going to change the way music sounds because you can make the music that sounds like it was made by a band but it's one person in a room as opposed to because this person he had toured with punk bands in his life before this and he said because you know we all had to live in a van together and when we made music we all had to kind of like agree on it there's something about that he goes and now you can reproduce the sound but you don't reproduce that experience this was on the subject of ai and nick cave and chat bot writing music and we ended up having a really interesting and i thought enlightening he was enlightening me with his ideas conversation about this while he was cutting my hair and i i got home five minutes after when I wanted to, and here I stand talking to you, meaning all's well that ends well and i'll probably end up going back to that rudy's next time i need a haircut let me ask you

a question because i want some some context when i just said you got to find another place i kind of mentioned that to you a couple of weeks ago when you had some issues scheduling or rescheduling um some stuff with rudy's but if people don't know like i love rudy's like as i've said before on the show and i've just said in real life like i can't even alaska airlines and rudy's barber shops are the two the two brands in my life that I have the most loyalty to and in a big part of the Rudy's thing wasn't just enjoying my experience up here in Seattle but also moving down to LA for a while kind of having a rough go of things overall but like really enjoying going into a Rudy's and feeling like that you know I'm putting a lot on Rudy's here but like knowing that it was the same vibe as in Seattle and I could still trust that it would be the same type of people in there who are going to give me the same type of haircut i just really think that they're a good organization um having said that so my question for you is and i hope this isn't too uh if i'm asking you to be too transparent here having talked about all these various stories you've had with rudy's over the years i mean going back to long before you and i worked together when you know when i

thought that they shaved a hole in my hair and it was i was having a spontaneous alopecia event

Exactly. If and I think we've actually inquired about this before, and I don't think Rudy's does a lot of I don't think Rudy's does much advertising at all, let alone on podcasts. But if we were to get one of those notes from our pal and colleague, Annie, today or tomorrow, that said, but not on not the next day, that said Rudy's is interested in doing, you know, ads where you talk about your personal experience. would you accept it or would you feel that because i i mean obviously i would i love them um but i'm just wondering like would you feel comfortable having told all the stories that you've told

over time like you do like rudy's i keep going back because it is they have the most the price point is good for me they it is it it works for me in its own kind of weird way it also works for the listeners and that it generates amazing content i don't think people could ever get tired of me talking about my run-ins getting my hair cut but like um i would totally recommend them because again for somebody like me who would i would never pay a hundred dollars to get my haircut my hair is not worth that but also some of the real like great clips or you know kind of some of the places that are real entry level i would like a little more kind of pizzazz than that a little more stylishness i guess um there's tons of locations i can usually get an appointment i always find the people to be except the one time when a person threatened to end my haircut when i was at the rudy's on sunset in la remember that story that's from for were you visiting la

or is this from your time no i lived in la okay so this is before you and i knew each other okay

so i must have been referring back to it because i lived in la when it happened yeah yeah this but um no i mean i always i i always enjoy the people that are the conversation with people that are cutting my hair i'm generally good with the outcome so i would recommend it it just i always have sort of a situation but it's never enough to make me actually start going somewhere

else hey that story where you said the barber threatened to make you leave yeah that was in la i wonder if i've asked you this before i don't even remember the details surrounding it i don't know if you feel like getting into it or not but my question for you is was that a rudy's near silver lake i think there was one in silver lake or near silver lake because i've only had one bad rudy's experience in my life and it was at one of the places in la i'd go to several they were all good experiences except for one specific one i went to this shop one time and i did not like the guy first of all was it a guy this was a guy who was cutting my hair okay so this was definitely

out this this was and i don't think it depends on what your definition of near silver lake uh is this was on sunset and it was basically sort of near remember that mexican place malo that it's like next to the uh speaker shop that has the elliot smith swirl yeah okay yeah yeah different place yeah by akbar that would that's where it was and um i i i can't even remember all these years later what i said but i was literally having what to me was meant to be the most like small talk banal conversation like i was not trying to deploy any hot takes i was it was one of those things where i was just chatting and all of a sudden the person cutting my hair she looked up and she goes i can stop this haircut right now if you want me to like and i can promise you i wasn't saying anything controversial or weird or offensive or personal i mean it was literal chit chat and somehow it triggered this person and she was like and i was like what i was so confused about what had happened and uh the haircut did not end there i said oh i'm like, so sorry if I said something, and then she finished the haircut, I think mostly in silence.

And never explained what she was talking about?

No, I just dropped it, whatever it was. I was like, again, it was one of those things, and I don't know if you've had this experience where you are totally blindsided by somebody's response to something. Like, sometimes you'll say something to a person and you kind of know that this is either in how you're presenting it or the actual information or whatever. You're like, you're bracing for a response. and then there's just like you know some weather we're having i can stop this haircut right now

what like it was it felt like that boy i'm looking at the la uh rudy's i wonder if they've sort of pulled out of that area because i know like i used to go to one on melrose that is now it looks like it's it's under a different name now this isn't interesting podcasting my apologies i'm just um first of all i love google maps i think that like because it's such a somewhat pedestrian app google maps and it's just like it's just part of our daily lives that we take it for granted google maps is amazing right can we agree that it's one of the most amazing technological breakthroughs

of the modern age uh it's incredible it is it is if you would have told me that what the project was like google maps and by that i think you mean street view right i'm not i mean that's part of

it just all told like i'm just kind of like okay where google map you know where rudy's barber shops and it's showing me all these red dots but a bunch of them are kind of i'm looking at it looks like some of them are former rudy's like i'm getting so much information just from the not even satellite view but then you throw in street view satellite view the fact that um you can uh it can remember where you've been you can retrace steps i mean it's just incredible it is and and

to me i guess for me the street view thing is like yeah it's such an ambitious project you know we'll do okay we're going to outfit these cars with cameras right and we're going to have them drive pretty much every road in every american city and and pretty much we're just going to take pictures of every street in america and then when you want to look at something when you're looking at an address unless we're talking about somewhere that's pretty rural you're just going to be able to virtually walk down any street in america like i would have just been like have fun bailing the ocean out with a teaspoon uh sergey and larry those are the guys from google i think um but um you know like i just it seemed it would seem so impossible and and and it's been done and it's incredibly in fact like becca texted me a listing to uh just like a cool mid-century house in portland and said why is this so cheap cheap being you know over half a million dollars but But but cheap by Portland standards and for a house that seems like it's, you know, kind of a cool mid-century house. And what do I do immediately? I Google Street View it and then I start walking around the neighborhood. I'm looking for like, what's the issue? And I figured out like in kind of a sort of a not particularly overly, let's just say, well taken care of neighborhood currently. And it's it's it's right near a huge major freeway. But Street View is so illuminating.

I did that too when we were house hunting recently like we would say Genevieve would always she was the one who was always looking for places she was always kind of combing the listings but then she would send me links to the place and so I would look at the I lived in this world for so long what is the go to real estate app that we all use either Redfin or Zillow yeah I think she was sending me Zillow ones anyway she would send me that and I'd look at that but then immediately what I would do is because walk score is the most important thing to me or but it's not just a walk score I wanted to see what the walk is like to the grocery store and I would drop my little pin there and I would like take a virtual walk around the neighborhood I remember I mean this goes back years and years and years now back in I guess it was 2009 when I knew I was moving out to Seattle but I was still physically in New Hampshire and I was talking to some potentially future colleagues at KUOW I remember being on the phone with our pal Arvid at KUOW, you know him.

Smokinson?

And he would, I don't think I've ever heard that one. Smokinson if you've got him soon? And he was like excited for me to be coming out to Seattle. And we were on the phone together on opposite coasts on Google Maps looking at like my new apartment, like where you can. We were virtually walking around the neighborhood together from opposite coast getting to know my new neighborhood. But it's a very kind of fond, specific memory of mine.

And you've mentioned this on the show a bunch of times. But I do think for somebody like you who you've said that you kind of like sometimes if you're going to be going to a place you haven't been before, particularly a restaurant, you like to maybe scout it out on street just to have a sense of it. It probably allays a lot. little bit of your anxiety it does it's weird because you just think like okay let's say i have some social anxiety but i'm going to a restaurant with some people um and i sort of realize that sometimes it's like not being able to picture the the just picture the scenario whether it's the inside of the restaurant which can again google maps will give you the reviews you can see the inside but sometimes just seeing the outside of a place like let's just say i'm going

there's something about the outside of a restaurant that's good for the inside of an

Andrew like let's just say that you and you know you and Becca and me and Genevieve are meeting up to have dinner but there's like one or two more couples involved who I don't know so well right and so I might automatically without even thinking about it have a little anxiety about that why would looking at the facade of a restaurant help calm me I don't know it doesn't make sense but at least I can sort of like picture myself you know oh okay this is where we're going this is what it looks like this is the vibe it's not going to change what i wear i only have one look like that's not going to change anything but it does i think give me a little sense of like oh yeah there was some unknown in there that this takes away a little bit yeah less unknown i think that actually

totally makes sense and i bet you a fair number of our listeners can really relate to that like i you know i think that actually makes a lot of sense but yeah it's an amazing amazing piece of

technology um we gotta create we gotta create a you know how there's all different kinds of tens in our community whether you're uh you know tenverites or whatever we need to create the shut tens and it can be my people the people who are shut-ins who listen to this show and

share all of my same social anxieties it is so i cannot we cannot go down this road because we need to talk about trader joe's we need to give trader joe's that earned media they've earned so hard but it is just so funny how differently wired your brain and mine are for that moment at about 9 30 at night uh you know if it's like let's say like a wednesday through a saturday where if i have had a few drinks and i'm feeling kind of loose i am i have to really strap myself down to the couch like i have to be like you're staying here you're gonna watch some dateline nbc you're gonna look at some tiktok and you're gonna get in bed like a normal person at a normal hour and you're gonna get up tomorrow and do your thing like because my inclination is to be like you know throw my uh clothes on and go for a little walk in the neighborhood maybe pop by my favorite little local watering hole maybe play a little video poker like i just get so active in my socializing in fact when i'm not a little tuned up i have no interest in socializing but when i'm a little tuned up it sounds fun to me and i was thinking of you i don't know a few weeks ago because i was having that exact thought and i was like i can't believe how much andrew would be so excited to just be home on his couch watching his tv puttering listening to his music like that's your happy place and when i get a few in me it's like you can't keep me at home and it seems like for you you can't get you to leave the house yeah the gravitational pull back home

happens you know while i'm out i mean do you think that it's the fact that you don't have

a dartboard i hadn't even thought about that but i'll try it honestly you'll never try anything like i really do have to i mean you know as i get older and tired or thankfully and i've been kind of doing this project where i'm getting up really early now that's helped but it really is a thing where it's like some kind of some part of what the you know the depressant of the alcohol is doing to the release of whatever there's something where i just suddenly feel like hey you know what it would be fun to be in a some sort of semi-loud place around people i don't know not talking to them but just being in their general vibe that becomes very appealing to me after a few drinks and i think our friend camaro kev is the same way i think genevieve is the same way i don't mean that they want to be amongst strangers but just that the socializing the being social part really kicks in after a certain point and uh i wish i was more wired like you i would i would be better for me if I was, that's for sure.

You know what's interesting? I shouldn't claim things are interesting because you never know with me. But you said something that sparked something in me, and I'm going to say some words is what I meant to say there. You describing being by yourself somewhere where there's maybe people around living their lives, their night lives maybe, maybe specifically bars here, but other scenarios as well, maybe a bowling alley. I don't know. But you're not kind of part of that? Like that actually that actually sounds more appealing to me. And this makes it sound like I don't like my friends. I have some of the best friends in the world and I'm so I'm seriously so lucky to have the people in my life that I do. Yet I think that I am more likely to go out even by myself. Hey, hey, do you want to go to the bar tonight? No, probably not. I'm going to stay home and play darts. But what if it's what if I'm by myself? I'm into some book. I want to sit down and read for a while, but I don't want to be at home to do it.

Can I belly up to a bar somewhere, be by myself and sort of drink in, well, alcohol, but also drink in the socializing of the people around me? Like somehow like that doesn't bother me as much. And then what is the stuff that I hate like kind of the most? I shouldn't use the word hate, but that I sort of avoid or whatever that causes me the most anguish is like going to somebody's house where there's just going to be a few of us, even if they're my best friends in the world, just like kind of sitting around and making small talk. And I think it all comes down to the fact that and I don't think most people would know this to meet me. I don't think they would glean this. I just feel, I think, internally so much pressure to keep the conversation going or or maybe just not like I have to carry the conversation, but just the act of talking. I know I do this for a living, but somehow like the act of talking and small talking and conversing, I think I find it exhausting. Like, I think I just like to be quiet, maybe, or listen to, that's why I love listening to podcasts and playing darts, you know? Like, it's just like, there's pressure.

You don't like there to be any pressure or expectation on you. Yeah, yeah. And I'm the same way. Like, if I go, if I'm, like, you know, like, by myself and I'm going to a bar to, like, have a drink or whatever, like, you know, play the Infernal Video Lotto. By the way, really check out from two weeks ago our friend Chris Hayes' Why Is This Happening podcast where he interviewed a guy who wrote this very informative book about state lotteries and just how bad they are really for the finances of a lot of people.

But they fund education fully, I thought.

Oh, I mean that's why we don't have any – that's why our schools are all hyper-functioning and we don't have any taxes. Which was literally a thing that was pitched When they first approved state lotteries The way it was pitched was We will be able to end all involuntary taxation I remember hearing that

I don't know if I heard a promo for that Because I didn't hear that episode I don't know if I heard a promo for that Or if Marketplace was biting Chris's rhyme again But I remember hearing about that very recently

I think they promote the podcast On the All In TV show So you probably heard a clip Maybe while watching All In or something I don't know But I was thinking about that because basically I'm just, you know, one of the people not making the world's greatest sort of long-term financial decision but sort of have a short-term experience of playing these silly little games. But my point is if I go – if I were to like – it was 9 o'clock at night and I've had a couple drinks and I'm just – my brain is popping off now. It's weird because I'm not trying to make any friends. I'm not trying to talk to anybody at the bar. I don't – like I'm not trying to sit at the bar and strike up a conversation. I it's weird it's like I don't want to socialize but I want to be around where social stuff is happening but where I'm not I just don't want to do I mean now by the way there would have been a time earlier in my life where it would have been like I want to make new friends or I want to engage with people or isn't it fun when you go to the tattletale and you you're getting into it and you strike up a conversation with the guy sitting next to you on the bar and next thing you know your best friends like there was a time where I that was a vibe I was kind of into not anymore i just would like to about three hours a week be around people who are socializing but not have to talk to them that's that's where i'm at i used to talk about this all the time and

i do think that my um reclusive ways have maybe gotten more intense it you know the older i get but i've always been like this i mean going back to college i remember getting voicemails from friends who were all out at at the you know at whatever the music venue of the night was or the bar or what have you and them being like come on out why aren't you coming out so i've always been a bit reclusive but um i remember living in in capitol hill which for those who don't live in the seattle area or know it like it's a very it's notoriously or i would guess maybe famously more of a younger more fun neighborhood of seattle used to be now it's very moneyed so i don't know if that's changed a lot but when you go there it's just a very vibrant place very young vibrant diverse part of Seattle and we had an apartment there and I absolutely loved it and I had somebody come and visit me who's like the opposite of me who like just packs something into every minute of his day and I just I have a vague memory of him sort of saying something like why do you live here if you don't really go out or like to go out much and it was like well I'd still love living here like some of my favorite things to do would be to maybe be walking home with a burrito at eight o'clock on a friday night and seeing and feeling all of the energy around me not being a part of it and not not having any fomo not being like hey i wish i were going to numos right now to watch a show because i'd be like i don't want to be crushed by people right now but i love seeing everybody enjoying that while i go home to eat this here burrito yeah i know and now

That's the funny part is I think I used to have FOMO. Like I used to want to go out with my friends because I was like something fun is happening and I'm not there. And that bummed me out. Or if even if I would have found myself, let's say I was traveling and I'm by myself and I go, I'm having a drink at the bar and there's these groups of friends and they're having fun. Some part of me is like, oh, man, it'd be fun to be with people I know. And then occasionally, you know, you'd strike up a sort of friendship with some randos and they'd be like, we're going to this place. And you kind of get carried along or something. i have none of that fomo at all like that's i'm like so i'm so deeply i'm also older than a lot of the people that come into these places i'm thinking this one neighborhood joint that i can walk to from here that i tend to go to sometimes and like uh there will be a fair number of like younger people that'll walk in these groups and honestly i just think like are they why are they

letting children into the bar yeah well that's the other thing too yeah it's interesting and

then b it's just like whatever they're talking about sounds so inane and then like whatever they're going to another location i'm like oh my god that sounds like hell on earth you're gonna go try to get into the whatever the place that's like hard to get into because it's got the new i'm just like oh god just leave me here with my ruby lock whatever it's called just let me drink clement like just leave me here with my stupid little slot machine and my my vodka soda like

that's a plenty for me it's called phobia fear of being invited i believe we coined that a long time

ago wow i have good news for me andrew uh i've got friday's show covered because we didn't get to any of the top stories today that means tomorrow when i'm checking in probably from san francisco Although maybe from Maui Or maybe from Portland It's all TBD as of this recording I've got Friday's show pretty much Pulled together It's Nate Bargetsy It's Trader Joe's

And I have a story I want to tell you I was going to tell you it earlier in the week But I also didn't want to cannibalize the story That I told after these messages A couple of days ago But now enough time has passed And if you don't mind I did a little bit of Light internet stalking the other day that um well i'll tell you how it turned out oh what a great forward pro for

tomorrow's show there's a right way to rock and a wrong way to roll you can't just listen to your soul just remember that life is number one you can't be having so much fun just remember that

Before we get into today's Blur's Days, Luke, I did just want to say one thing. We could probably talk about this off the air, but I think it's good that we have these top stories set up for tomorrow. But I would really like to not get in the habit of bumping top stories down. You know, I think we've done a pretty good job up until this point of always delivering our promise of the top stories. And I just feel like we shouldn't make a habit of this. Now I sound sort of naggy, but I figure you're on the same page.

No, I take that in the spirit it's intended. You're absolutely right. Like if we start bumping the top stories and it becomes like a regular thing, then it's just like, I mean, where does it end?

And then who are we? You know what I mean? As broadcasters, like who are we? What's our identity? So let's avoid that. Hey, you did mention earlier on in the show.

As aspiring employees of the Orange Street News.

That's right. You mentioned earlier in the show that we are recording this later on a Wednesday instead of actual Thursday morning as we normally would. So if anybody was sending in late-breaking Blursdays, we'll get to those next week. Sorry about that. But in the meantime, let's get to the folks who sent in some Blursdays this week. This first one comes from listener Christine who says, Hi Andrew, listener Christine here, your London-based Scottish 10, asking for a Blur's Day shout-out from me to me. I turned 61 on January 31st, but of course they're in London, Christine's in London, so I turned 61 on 31 January. Luke, isn't that very European to say 31 January? Sure is. As opposed to January 31st, which I still can't quite believe, says Christine. Can't believe that she's turning 61 next week. I still can't quite believe it. But, hey, getting older is inevitable, so let's make the best of it. I agree with that, Christine. Thank you so much for being such a loyal listener for so long. Happy Blur's Day. And, hey, it's just a number and a birthday.

Happy Blur's Day. And Christine, if if you are in fact Scottish.

and you want to call in and just read the phone book,

we'd be happy to play that. Didn't we play? I feel like Christine did call in recently, and I think maybe I didn't. Anyway, yeah, call in again, Christine. Denny says, Please wish my wife Renee a happy Blur's Day. I love Renee more dearly than I can express in words. Oh, come on. And I hope this small token will tickle her greatly. Denny, that's very sweet. Happy Blur's Day, Renee.

Come on, I've got to find my aw straw. Mm-hmm.

Oh, wait.

Didn't know you like to get wet, though Perfect! Happy Blur's Day, Renee Happy Blur's Day

And since that's the end of the Blur's Days I'm going to re-read this line from Christine's Because I really mangled it I'm going to turn 61, which I still can't quite believe But hey, getting older is inevitable So let's make the best of it Boy, did I mangle that sentence before But anyway, to reiterate Happy Blur's Day, Christine Happy Blur's Day, Renee And that's all we got for you

Yes, and if we missed you this week because of this being kind of pre-recorded, that's on me, and I will personally make it up to you next week, or the people who had any blurs is missed. I don't know what that looks like. I don't know. I like to write a lot of checks that my mouth can't cash.

That might be the type of thing that people are kind of like, well, don't do us any favors, like maybe.

Also, I feel like there's a good reason that that's not how that phrase goes.

Yeah, it was a little, it was a little, would Iceman say that to Maverick? I don't think so.

Would you say that to, would you say that to George Clooney?

He wouldn't say that to Tom Petty, would you? Tom Petty, that's what he said.

How about, would you say that to George Clooney? That's a decent show title. Yeah, maybe. All right, thanks to everybody for listening today. Happy Blur's Day to those folks. And again, we will be back here tomorrow with more. It'll be a fun adventure to find out where I'm checking in from. Because it really, as of right now, could be as equally possible that I'm in San Francisco, Portland, or somewhere in Hawaii. I don't know, but we'll find out together tomorrow. Until then, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all. Would you say that to Tom Petty? You wouldn't say that to Tom Petty, would you?

Power out.