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It's Friday, Friday Gonna get down on Friday Everybody's looking forward to the weekend Hi, this is Langley I have a joke for you Have you heard about the new movie called Constipation? You probably didn't because it never came out

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It's not every day you get to yank it up with a for real radio star. No, podcast star. Radio's dead.

All I know is this violates every canon of respectable broadcasting. All right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. You want to do a make-believe radio show in a room somewhere. I'm telling you, there's no money in that. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I've got something to say. Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, on this Friday. I did, however, wake up in San Francisco this morning, and there was just an absolutely beautiful sunrise happening over, I guess, probably Union Square or something. I'm not great with San Francisco geography, but I took a picture of it and then posted it on Instagram. And then people were saying, spoiler alert, and I didn't know what they were talking about. And then I realized, oh, because yesterday's episode was very up in the air. Was I going to be in Portland, San Francisco, maybe Hawaii? But no, I am here in Portland. I did go on a bit of a journey really yesterday trying to get to San Francisco. At least two things happened once I had boarded the airplane in Portland and was waiting to fly to San Francisco. Two things happened that have never happened to me before in my many, many thousands of miles of air travel. And it was... It was literally a major disaster? It was really something. I was texting Becca updates, and I thought at some point she's going to think I'm just joshing her. I'm making this stuff up, but I couldn't make this stuff up, everybody. I also couldn't make up the fact that we're at episode 3,868 in a collector series.

Let the fun begin.

And for the last few episodes of the show, we've been trying to talk about the Trader Joe's top foods. Now that's interesting. As decided by the customers of Trader Joe's and publicized by Trader Joe's. it's our earned media spotlight and we are going to get to it today no matter what happens unless we talk about other stuff that's more interesting and then in which case we won't get to it I guess it is a Friday so we will of course have to bring you some music for your weekend your voice is like a combination of Fergie and Jesus and we can also talk about how the Illuminati in Lake Oswego, Oregon are trying to shut me down, trying to silence me and I'm not going to stand for it. Speaking of voices that are like Fergie and Jesus. This guy's voice is more like Will.i.am and Buddha. He is Andrew Walsh, and he is the longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning,

Luke. I don't want to jump into business right at the top of the show here, but if I don't make this announcement, I am afraid that the currents of the show will just sweep on and I will forget to mention this and the clock is ticking a little bit on the tbtl valentines exchange our pal cheryl in corvallis is once again organizing a a uh a valentine's card exchange amongst the tens but getting a slightly later start this year and so she needs everybody's information by this coming tuesday the 31st so if you go to a facebook the stens page if you go to the slack page you should be able to find a link to a little form that you fill out. If you can't find that, if you're not on those platforms, email tbtlvalentins at gmail.com tbtlvalentins at gmail.com to take part in the Valentine's Day exchange. I'll just wrap this up by telling you yesterday, and I wrote about this a little bit in the newsletter this week. All this information, by the way, is also in the newsletter that's going out later today. Luke, remember when you were over here right before Christmas. I believe it was two days before Christmas.

We did a famous patented TBTL What's in the Box segment where we were overwhelmed by holiday greetings and cards and little packages and treats from the listeners. I went back to the post office a couple of days ago, Luke. That was about half the haul. I sat here for two hours yesterday going through so many more holiday cards. It was, I mean, to say it was heartwarming. It doesn't even begin to cover it. I got a little emotional when I was thinking about all the love that everybody was showing us and pouring out to us. And I've saved a couple of these things for you that were addressed directly to you, Luke. I'll give them to you the next time I see you. But anyway, thank you again to all the listeners who sent us stuff. And if you want to trade some Valentine's Day cards with the other 10s, now you know how to do it. Thank you.

As I believe you mentioned when we were doing that episode, the amazing part of it was that also proved there is a Santa Claus.

Yes, because you just you empty a burlap sack out there in court. Exactly. And you see all of the letters to you and I were kind of like co-Santas. The longest running co-Santas of the show. Exactly. He is Andrew Walsh. I'm glad to hear you're back in Portland. What was all this craziness?

Well, so we I went down to San Francisco yesterday because I'm working on a story about gas stoves versus induction cooking. But really it's about gas stoves and is Joe Brandon coming for your gas stove, which is not what's happening. But it is amazing how widespread that thought is. Just as I was traveling and chatting with people and it was coming up in conversation, every person that I mentioned it to said, oh, yeah, aren't they going to take the gas stoves away or something? It's like, no, that's not actually what they're doing. They're saying maybe you should ventilate it better because there's, you know, some not great things going on with methane and and some of these other sort of impurities that can be in the gas that's coming into your home. And, you know, the particulates can cause asthma. OK, whatever. So I was going down to do that story. And the plan was to fly down and go interview a scientist who's done a ton of research on basically what having a gas stove in your home actually kind of does on an atomic level. And then we were going to go to this like real high-end restaurant supply store where a chef who is – she's extremely experienced with induction cooking was going to kind of give me induction cooking 101 tips. By the way, I get no money from big induction, but man, that technology is slick. It's really something else, I'll tell you. So we kind of had a packed day. You and I had, of course, pre-recorded TBTL. I got up real early, although I guess I've been kind of doing that anyway, so that wasn't too bad. But I got to the airport and we get on the airplane and they close the door up and everything is looking like, you know, we're going to push back on time. And the pilot comes on and he goes, well, I have a little bit of bad news. Apparently, there's a scratch or dent on the cargo door. And it didn't used to be there before. And they did come out and take a picture of it. and the sense i got was it was not because this was endangering the flight this was like when you try to bring a rental car back to hertz and you've scratched it i believe this was for insurance purposes like uh there didn't used to be a scratch there now there is someone's gonna have to pay for it is it going to be whatever ground crew subcontractor maybe alaska uses or is it going to be alaska airlines or what they just needed to establish a paper trail of a what appeared to be a totally cosmetic scratch on the airplane have you ever heard anything like

that no but i will say if they rented that airplane through the apm corporate account they're all set because i returned the car with a cracked windshield and they were just like you're

good my boy well that's why i always get the insurance too yes i get the absolute cadillac i get the undercoating i get all of it so that if i scratch the cargo door i don't even have to worry about it i could just like leave the plane anywhere and it's someone else's problem because it's so insured great yeah so that took like 30 minutes for them to come out and take a picture of the scratch on the cargo door then and i want to mention this is alaska airlines i love alaska airlines i flew home on alaska airlines today they sponsor livewire they've done lots of great stuff for tbtl i love this airline but just like anyone i love when some kooky stuff goes down i've also got to talk about it because it was just kind of like oh i haven't heard of that before so because we are waiting for them to come take a photo of the scratch on the door we then are now out of our window of time that we're supposed to to take off and get into san francisco and if you've ever flown into sfo it is a very busy airport there's often a lot of fog it is just i think it might be one of the most delay prone and kind of just challenging airports to deal with because there's a lot going on and so we because we weren't taking off when we're supposed to now we were like at the back of the line of airplanes that were allowed to land in san francisco and they didn't actually want us to even get in the air they were like you wait in portland for another hour while your spot is opening up and then you take off and then you'll get here when there's room for you to land so i was like all right well that's you know kind of a little frustrating i'm looking at my watch and thinking like are we gonna even am i gonna be able to get to luckily my friend and the producer for the story anthony was on the same flight um his delta flight had already been canceled and he was over on alaska and so at least we were in the same boat or on the same airplane as it were but the next thing that happens is so an hour goes by and now we're finally able to well one thing that was also really funny that happened while we were sitting there was after about 30 minutes of sitting there they said okay our um whatever they're called logistics team or ground team has decided to open the door of the airplane again so if you want to like get off the airplane and go walk around you can but here's the thing you have to take your luggage with you and we're only going to have the airplane door open for about five minutes because then we need to close it and re go back through all of our systems so that we can push back and take off and it became this weird thing where everyone was around like who the hell is going to get off this airplane with their luggage for five minutes and one guy did it and everyone applauded i thought

everybody would be mad because you're running the risk of holding everybody up again potentially well i mean the pilot was very clear we're not waiting that this play if you want to go

if you want to go wander around pdx and if you'd come back too late we're this thing's taken off without you it was just the weirdest offer it was like why are you opening the door for five minutes with a strong admonition that everybody like if you get off this plane and you're not back we're leaving without you it's like what's the upside well for one guy there was an upside and we don't

know what it was did he come back he did and then i wish he was sitting next to you i'd love to know would you have asked you probably wouldn't have we have pretty strong boundaries on airplanes but like i really want to know what he did with his time did he go use the better restroom maybe

maybe so i don't know but that was so so then they get the door shut now we push back okay cool we are actually now moving away from the you know jetway and we go out and we're at that moment where you're the next plane to take off and it's we're we're like lined up on the runway and the pilot is about to floor it and then we're just sitting there for a little while like longer than normal and then after about five minutes a pilot comes on the pa and goes got a little bit more bad news folks all alaska airlines flights are grounded because of a software error we had a tail strike happened somewhere and which i had to google while sitting on the plane this is why by the way never put your phone in airplane mode you might need to google what is a hey gorgle what is a tail strike and also this is why we need to start paying our tails more and giving them the work protections that they need they absolutely deserve a living wage um and so i guess that's when the tail of an airplane makes contact with the runway which no i'm not uh amelia airheart but i think that's not good and so i almost went charles linbergh but i feel like i've really we really had to re-examine yeah the whole charles it was listening to that rachel maddow ultra podcast which just detailed the strong nazi nazi sympathies in this country that i was kind of not totally aware of but anyway so so then the pilot goes all of the all alaska airlines flights are grounded right now until they can figure out what the computer problem is i was like well that's a first first we got a scratched door then now we got a system-wide outage that hit us four seconds before we take off like if we're up in the air we're not going to turn around and land like being at that point being in the air my guess would be you know you're in the air you're flying to san francisco but we missed our chance to take off by like literally a minute or something so now we're sitting there we sit there for about 20 more minutes and the pilot comes back on i do believe

it was leslie nielsen flying this plane engine which should have been my first tip that's not gonna encourage or engender trust by the way the delta thing with your with your um colleagues

flight that's just unrelated to all this totally unrelated okay but um but we just we are not usually on the same flights when we go to the same place even if we're both leaving portland because Thank you. We have different, you know, I'm house Alaska and he's house Delta. And it all comes down. That's how they get you. Because, you know, once you're kind of locked into one of those situations, you tend to always look for the flight on that airline. But so now the pilot comes back on. It's been like 15 minutes and he goes, well, we've got good news. The software issue has been resolved. We are cleared by Alaska to take off. But the bad news is San Francisco International, SFO, has put a ground hold on all flights. No one is allowed to take off or land at San Francisco Airport. Is this weather related now? It couldn't have been because let me tell you, when we got there, one of the most gorgeous days I've seen in maybe years, maybe in my life.

Maybe security.

It was so nice. I don't know what in the holy chickens was going on, but it was just one thing after another, after another, and then every time something would happen, it would then impact some window of time that we were going to be allowed to be in, but now we missed it, so now something else, and it just – Anthony and I were texting each other from different parts of the planes like, I guess we're just not doing this. We'll go home and I'll just do the interview on Zoom from my apartment and we'll get a crew in Portland to come film me or something like it was just like this is not happening. This is not a blessed flight at all.

This seems so strange. So you still don't know why SFO grounded all the planes?

No, because eventually, like when we least expected it and about three to four hours later, the plane took off and we got to San Francisco and it was blue skies. it was probably 65 degrees it was absolutely gorgeous i'm looking at i'm trying to like i'm

i'm doing news searches on this i'm opening up twitter which isn't something i do often but that's still a very good source of like kind of like unofficial breaking news the old twitter

app is so i'm looking to see if any i don't think unfortunately because sfo is so um kind of you know challenging i don't think it would even make the news i think what here's what i think happened i'm i'm i'm guessing here but the pilot had said something about the fact that they were planes were having to land at san francisco from a different angle than normal like they had to come from the south instead of i guess the north and because of that fewer planes could land their capacity was limited for some reason i don't know what that reason was but i think because of that i think what basically happened was san francisco was getting overwhelmed they had too many planes in the sky waiting to land because of less capacity and so they just told everyone else everyone else stay home for now because we've we're we're all we're all full on huge mechanical birds giant aluminum tubes filled with farts trying to get to this airport everybody stay home that's what i think happened i don't think it was anything to do with the weather i think they just hit their like capacity and they were like shut it down america shut it and then event then they eventually opened it back up but it was just the reason that it's like i mean i've been on many a delayed flight but it was just the series of weird events that happened that i'd never really experienced before i thought it was getting me again this morning andrew i thought i was real snake bit on this trip because i was flying back early this morning my first of all my flight was in fact a bit delayed that's fine that happens but i knew that in advance so i was at the hotel did my little exercise i timed it all out perfectly i take the rental car back and i basically have the perfect amount of time to get from the rental car shuttle thing to uh you know the tsa pre-check whatever and the thing about san francisco airport is it has an insanely long like air tram that you have to take from the rental car deal like you basically go back into san francisco and then out and then you kick over to like probably like oakland and then it is it's

a really big... Takes out to Alcatraz just for

a quick view from above. Yeah, absolutely. See where the Birdman of Alcatraz lives, stuff like that. And it takes a long-ass time. It's why I less and less even rent cars if I can avoid it because it's like that, as you like to say, last mile problem. It's like getting from wherever the rental car corral is to the airport itself can be more of a hassle than just getting from your hotel to the airport. But I didn't have a choice in this one And so I'm on this air tram thing and we go like two stops. So we're still like a half. I can see the airport, but like we're really far away from it. And the air tram just stops because we, you know, we're at a stop. We're at a place where we're supposed to stop. The doors open, the doors close. About a minute goes by. The doors open, the doors close. Another minute goes by the door. We're all just looking at each other like. is this our new life now do we live here is this what is this liminal space we were there for about 15 or 20 minutes just sitting in this air train as the doors would just like open and then close and it's not moving and i was starting to panic because my flight was boarding in like 10 minutes now and i was like i have a rolling bag and i'm like can i get out and can i even walk to the airport from here like is it even like will i actually have to cross the runway like this is It's not like, you know, it's not clear if this is even pedestrian friendly. Can I jump off of this air train and just start hoofing it towards the airport in the distance? And right as I was about to do that, a very scratchy voice comes over the PA and goes, Wait for our... And then the doors close, and then we started moving. So thank goodness, because I really was like, this trip is mildly cursed for me.

You know what doors do, don't you? Do you know what doors do? Doors go up. doors go down that's what garage doors do it's amazing how much that lives in my head um i know that feeling of wanting to um of just like watching the clock tick yes and you know what it reminds me of it's a very different situation but that feeling of being caught in traffic right when you're just like on the highway and it's just dead stopped and you're like well um my vacation depends on this if i abandoned the car now and just started running could i make it to

the airport in time i felt a total lack of agency like i'm in this this like electromagnetic powered you know subway car or whatever you want to call it tram train and if i just sit here i could maybe be here for the next hour and miss my flight if i get out and start like running maybe i can get the flight like but then also if i get out and start running and then this thing turns back on That was a terrible decision Right of course I was so completely Kind of on the horns of a dilemma And usually I will tell you this My usual move is to hit eject Too quickly Like I kept telling myself Invest two more minutes in this Because if this thing gets fixed It will be way way better To be on this than to be Two blocks from here running with your rolling bag

That's interesting I think I tend to probably wait too long in such. I don't know. I mean, the thing is, I'm not really in that situation that much because I hate rushing so much that, you know, for me, I don't mind that. I don't mind waiting if I can get somewhere and settle in, especially if we're talking like an airport situation, because I hate that feeling of just that that that impotent feeling of like kind of panic mixed with. I don't know. Like like you said, it's a lack of agency. You just feel absolutely stuck. like again like driving Genevieve and her friend to the airport one time um I wasn't even on the flight but I was giving them a ride and then they're like then we hit traffic it was like

rush hour traffic on a Friday formative moments of your life yeah and they're like rebooking their

flight I think they ended up on the same plane again but I was just like oh I just hate that like you know it was probably a Friday so they were probably working that day this is you know a couple of years ago but um it's just like wouldn't it just be nicer just to get to the airport and spend a half hour drinking uh you know me and hannah brooks olsen were talking about the other day i didn't really she was such a big fan too but like um you're not a huge beer drinker but there's something about the the airport beer it just tastes better because it's like you made it there and it's usually ice cold in an ice cold glass and if you can have one of those things it's just like just spend your extra time spend your extra time having that airport beer and then board

the plane that everything you say is totally logical i think for me because of the amount of this travel that i do if i added up if i did you know an extra half hour hour on on on the front end of of all these trips it would really actually be a pretty big impact on my life but i know what you mean like it doesn't make sense to be stressed out and be about to like literally jump off of an air train 80 feet down to the pavement below hoping you land on your suitcase and survive it So you can hobble your way to the to Terminal 2 where Alaska Airlines is.

And it's just a difference. I didn't even mean that like in a judgy way. I mean, I just think that there's a very different kind. I mean, you are right. I mean, you're also traveling for work all the time. It's a different situation. You don't have the luxury of doing that. But it's just also, though, just in life in general, I think some people are much more comfortable with the feeling of being somewhat rushed and then and then constantly living with that feeling. But it's not a bad feeling to them. What a bad feeling is, is showing up somewhere and showing up early, whereas I'm the complete opposite. Like, I like showing up early. Where was I? I was meeting somebody. I was meeting somebody to pick up my fantasy football winnings, not to brag. I did not get mugged on the way home. You know, in this day and age, you know, it's so easy to transfer money digitally. But my buddy, who was the commissioner, the co-commissioner.

of this football league really wanted to meet and he just handed me a huge wad of $20 bills and i was like wow like it's kind of awesome you know i was also like well let's not get mugged on the way home but um uh but uh it all worked out well anyway i just remember thinking like i was walking to the train station which is just just a little bit more than a mile than getting on the train and thinking like you know i'm gonna be a little bit late for this but that's okay like he can he can chill for a second we were meeting at a bar and i was like well we can you know no big deal and it's a pretty casual thing it's okay if i'm 10 15 minutes late well i showed up exactly at five o'clock the time we were supposed to meet and that and i think i realized oh that felt a little bit late to me because usually i'm there 10 minutes early i like to be the person who's

my one-time choir teacher mr lynn hall who used to say um early is on time on time is late and

late is unacceptable that's right and also if you have time to lean you have time to clean if you just heard that very loud no i don't know if you just heard something that sounded like a toilet flushing in the background i did not i did not install a toilet in the studio yet we're still working on that um but i am happy to report that our um the masons of whom i spoke very glowingly the other day on the show who repaired our and basically rebuilt our chimney from the roof line

up are here right now talking about the fraternal secret society yeah no these are these are well

they might be a part of that as well but um anyway they i think i mentioned to you the other day that there was just one last thing like 15 minutes left of work to do which is them just like kind of unwrapping it from the plastic and then like doing some sort of acid wash which i don't know what that means but it sounds awesome um and i'm happy to say that uh they're here they just turned on the hose which is right outside my window which is why i wasn't sure if you had heard that but uh i believe we will be able to burn a fire uh this weekend if we wanted to fun yeah anyway sorry to distract i just thought that was really loud so i wanted to explain the noise you might

have heard i'm getting very into the world of looking at um very high efficiency like uh wood stoves yeah those are really because i'm gonna put one of those in yeah uh in the the tbtl studio slash little kind of like crash pad and uh it's i i'm i'm so much like genevieve and i think you're actually probably this way when it comes to certain things like you don't like geek out on travel uh and planning travel but i'm sure you like to geek out on something you're excited to buy and try to you know figure out the best one this whole remodeling project i've been doing which has just been like a real emotional roller coaster for me um uh the one fun part though is it has presented me with the chance to do a massive amount of the internet stalking of different products like um including things like ultra high efficiency and small kind of like wood stoves and stuff and i'm like i'm deep in that world right now some of my fondest memories of

living in new hampshire were you know like chopping the wood stacking the wood then coming home after a long day in the cold winter and i was going through my uh this sounds awful i was going through my wine and jazz phase at this time it does sound awful it's but it was so nice i would come home oh man i would come home what's that do you know what the paz and job i don't think so i'll keep going anyway yeah you know i would put on you know i'd come home probably get home maybe a little bit before genevieve it's snowing outside you kick off your boots you put on you know a little coal train you pour yourself a glass of wine you sit down in front of that wood burning stove and it takes a little time to get it going right you know or at least it did for me because the way i like to do it and just like i mean you want to talk about just sinking into your evening in the most pleasant way possible just get a little fire going in the hearth with a glass of

wine my goodness well you'll be able to do that again my friend and i'll tell you what uh you know

when you uh do a wood fire the wood it heats you twice yeah i know because you're chopping it outside and i learned that in new hampshire hey you mentioned internet stalking i know that we really want to get to this trader joe story but when we come back to the break can i tell you about my little bit of internet stalking that I promised I would tell you about yesterday on the show?

Yes, absolutely. Let's take a quick break, and then we'll come back and we'll find out what kind of light internet stalking Andrew's been doing in a moment here on TBTL. Hello, and welcome to Top Story. All right, before we get to Trader Joe's, What have you been peeping on the internet, Andrew? Actually, I don't know if you want to answer that question. But what thing before the break did you mention you wanted to talk about?

Would you like to go through my internet history, Luke? I would absolutely love to.

Two words. Incognito mode, Andrew.

Look into it. Do you remember – by the way, this is an aside. I told you I'd keep this quick, so let's start with an aside. Back in 2015 when we first started, Started at APM and so therefore I could dedicate all of my work day to TBTL. I was very gung ho about maybe trying some new things, starting some new segments or whatever, which I'm still open to, by the way. But one of the things that we I suggested that you loved the idea of and we bring it up about once every two years now. And we've never done it as a segment is to just go through our Shazam history and talk about like what's in our Shazam history and like why. like I just I shazammed something yesterday and it was like turned out to be loud and wainwright and the only reason I shazammed it was because it was like the music underneath my friends year-end kind of family roundup kind of like the was it the swimming pool song it was I think it was song yeah I didn't realize that that's is that like kind of the most go-to loud and wainwright

songs I think it's pretty popular it's the only loud and wainwright song I could name that's for

darn sure anyway um I just think it would always be fun it would be a weird way of looking down memory lane of our digital lives to say like oh yes i heard this song and it was annoying me but i wanted to know what it was or i heard the song and i loved it and i was at the barbershop or whatever still a segment we could do down the line when you were having trouble coming up with top stories here's the little here's a little story that i wanted to tell you and i'll i will keep it brief here um and i'll say if you want to hear the longer version of it we talked about it on

after these messages uh this past tuesday if you'd like to hear a beeped version of this story you can go to thisamericanlife.org they don't still do that do they oh yeah well what they do is because I only listen to it primarily as a podcast and they will say the following story has you know words that are unbleeped if you'd like to hear a bleeped version go to our website and I always just think nerd like if you were to go to their web if you were to go to this American life's webs I mean maybe you want to listen with your kids or something but if you were going to go to their website to listen to the version that doesn't have shit in it or something uh and then you nerd you go it's not

a separate feed you go to the website um anyway so here's here's my little bit of internet stalking i do this sometimes part of my um part of my project of the after these messages podcast now as you know luke is to digitize old vhs tapes that i find and i found a trove of these vhs tapes this summer i've talked about it on tbtl uh at a garage sale and they're all from like circa 1995 96 this family that i took these tapes from with their permission um seemed to record three different things important mariners games which is great um i love that they taped the free previews of the disney channel remember when you would have cable but maybe you didn't buy the disney channel but they would offer like a free preview weekend where yes yeah they would tape those so like billy joel's in the middle of the nile or whatever the hell that live concert was one thing they tape and then the other thing is a bunch of fx shows um from the the network fx when it was brand new and very very different than it is today um and i was going through one of those i can't remember which one and there was a commercial in there for pedigree dog food and it featured this uh this veterinarian and dog breeder specifically a pug breeder named uh something i'm blanking on her first name right now but like dr dresser but they gave like her full name every now and then when i come across a commercial like this that features somebody who supposedly exists in real life i'll quickly google them just to see like was this a real person there was one ad for like idaho potatoes that was like you don't know much about idaho here we celebrate Sarah Roofing who just won the junior rodeo championship that's a made-up name but like I looked up that kid and I was like I don't know I don't see any evidence that some kid named Sarah Roofing was a junior rodeo championship that was probably made up well I look up Dr. Dresser and the internet gives me you know like some of those weird little like niche pages that aren't super fancy but they're just kind of listing like winners of dog breeding championships from 2006 and there i see dr dresser uh her and whoever her uh you know business partner is had uh or dog partner had breeded these pugs and i'm like pugs that's exactly what they claim she was into in this pedigree thing so i'm like i think she really exists so i do a little bit more digging and when i say a little bit more digging i think it means i clicked the second link on the google results and it was it was it was an article from 2020 about you know maybe six seven eight months into the pandemic about how veterinarians in ohio or at least in like a part of ohio are getting through the pandemic and d and still trying to put the pets first you know it was a tough time

for vets because people were buying pets like crazy, pandemic pets like crazy.

And it was really hard to, you know, treat animals and still be safe, as we all know. Anyway, so there she is. She's featured in this article just a couple of years ago, and it even mentions the name of her clinic, which is in Medina, Ohio, Luke, where I grew up. This this place where she's operating medicine. And you don't believe in a dog was like, you know, in this rural part of Ohio, about an hour outside of Cleveland. where i literally grew up not a well-tread area right and so i'm like well i wonder if they have a website so i go on the website and i see a general contact email that's something like vet staff at whatever right and i'm like should i should i and this is where genevieve usually gets a little bit i think because i've reached out to various people like this for the show before she's like what are you doing um but i wrote a note that i thought i don't have in front of me right now because I promised to keep this quick but I just basically wrote hey um you know I'm a podcaster and I have this video archiving project and I happen to come across this commercial with Dr. Dresser in it here's a link to it on YouTube if you want to pass it along um and I don't know if I put something like I kind of maybe implied that like she doesn't need this YouTube I'm sure like if you were a star of this commercial you have copies of that you know and people might even still say to you hey you're the person from that commercial i don't know why i assumed that anyway i sent this very gentle note and i even put a ps i was like i'm in seattle now but for what it's worth i grew up in medina right in valley city ohio um luke i heard back from dr dresser within 30 minutes she wrote back directly with her personal email and said i was just thinking of these commercials the other day and how sad i was that they're trapped on vhs somewhere thank you for sending this along and then she like goes into detail she's like i was actually in three of them and i love my black pugs the best and they're and she kind of implied that the camera people were like they're harder to shoot you know because of the contrast and everything you don't get the details she didn't go into all of this but the implication was that the production crew wanted her to bring her lighter brown colored dogs which is like i don't go anywhere without my black pugs or whatever and she said i told him to get better lenses um and she seems absolutely delightful and And now I have a pen pal with this person who was featured in a pedigree commercial from 1995 that I stumbled on on a VHS tape. And that brought I love joy into my life.

I was thinking about this a little bit because last night you sent me a part of your project, part of your archiving project, which was from, as you mentioned, the FX network. and it was um a a show on fx where they were talking to a guy who had a bunch of simpsons memorabilia this is what is this 19 it was 95 and i'll tell you what the show is called personal

fx and it was basically like fx back then was kind of like an mtv styled station not with music videos but very gen xy and very casual and this show was like that kind of version of antiques Roadshow basically people would come On to the set which is not a bad idea No and honestly like we can't get Into it now but the whole FX thing Of this era they also had this morning show With Tom Bergeron and a co-host Where they were in the studio that was Built like a house and they would do different segments From different rooms and then go out And do almost David Letterman-esque Stunts but to kind of Whatever the format You and I could watch This show and talk about the formatting of it for hours because it was brilliant in some ways well the the thing um that i was thinking

about with this because you sent me this clip was i wonder if for some of this stuff now maybe for the you know the pedigree pet commercials i'm sure that whatever advertising agency did those has them archived or you know like maybe even the pedigree company or something but i am wondering if these vhs tapes that you're digitizing if there are some if there is some content on them

that it's the only place that content exists i like to think so i mean honestly whether it's a and that's why i love this project so much because so much even even tv in the 90s when we were used to you know people recording things at home and stuff it's still full of ephemera right like vhs you know i told you that i kept my uh audio cassette tapes of my um voicemail machine in college and i haven't gone back and listened to them in whatever it's been 25 years but like someday I will and like it's that ephemera people just leaving like voicemails for me just for that moment right but if I go back I'll hear old stuff from long lost relatives and what have you and I feel like TV even in the 90s was sort of like that as well like whether it was a quick local commercial like I know that I have quick little cut-ins of what's coming up live on Como News at less. that probably don't exist anywhere you know yeah but i mean i that definitely doesn't exist anywhere nor should it it's like the ark of the covenant keep it there indeed keep it where it is no but like i'm thinking even more like i've had this on my mind a lot of late because i've been working on this tv story about this collection of of of basically newspaper comics that's at ohio state university and uh i know i already told the story of this so i'll keep it brief but there was a guy in the greater San Francisco area named Bill Blackbeard. That was his real name. And when he was a kid, he was really into newspaper comics. And so people would keep their old newspapers for a long time, like piles of them in their garage, and he would ask if he could have them. They'd say, sure. And he'd go through and he'd cut out the comics that he liked, and he'd try to collect them every edition of that comic for an entire year. And because we live in the time that we live in now where everything is digitized and there's just a record of everything, I mean, even if you don't want there to be, Like, you can't delete anything anymore, which is a new version of you can't say anything anymore. Like, it's hard to remember that they're like, for instance, with these comics, this guy was saving in a lot of cases. Literally, it's the only copy that ever that will that exists in the world of this thing that happened because the newspapers, you know, were thrown out. And or what happened was maybe there was a the original version of the comic was saved because that was in black and white. And then someone who was the colorist came in and added all the color. And so that version was the one that was in the newspaper. Well, if every edition of the Pittsburgh Gazette from a random day in 1974 is just been thrown out and they weren't digitizing things then, there was no micro micro filming project of it. It literally doesn't exist anymore. It's hard to wrap your mind around that kind of stuff because that's so not how the world works now. Everything is tracked and copied and there's redundant, you know, there's the Internet archive.

But I am pretty sure that even some of these TV shows and things that you have recorded on those VHS tapes, I bet you some of that stuff does not exist at wherever it was made because of just someone taped over it or no one thought it was going to have any value or whatever. I bet you have some real – the last remaining evidence of things on there, which is way cool.

Yeah, I think about that, too, especially when I first started this, because, again, like seeing this early stuff from like I think the first year or two of the FX network when it was a very, very different thing and kind of an interesting model. I mean, of the time, there's nothing that is more dated, that is more, like, time-stamped of the 90s of what these folks were trying to do, having, like, various shows broadcast out of the studio slash house thing. But, like, I just don't think, like, whatever, like, I just don't think the FX network as it is today, like, there's somebody who really cares about, like, there's not some vault where they're like, there's all the old Tom Bergeron's, what do they call it, breakfast time with Tom Bergeron on FX. Like, I don't know. I'm not saying that like every like all of it doesn't exist, but I must have. I mean, it's just like whoever I got these tapes from tapes from, they just recorded hours and hours and hours of this stuff. And I just don't think all of it exists anywhere.

And it could get misfiled. You know, if it was all on some, you know, big like beta tapes or whatever, it's like, yeah, who's guarding that? fx has gone through i mean i guess it probably still belongs to fox but yeah just the sort of chain of custody on a lot of this stuff like basically if you had to go back and try to find this one particular episode of tom bergeron breakfast house or whatever it's called i would watch that show that sounds like a bbc reality show where everyone just eats breakfast the whole time they would call it brekkie though right brekkie house yeah um but yeah if you were to try to go back and find a specific episode of one of those things, it might be really difficult. Like, if it even existed, was it cataloged? Is there anyone who knows where it is? So, yeah, I'm very, I'm excited that you're doing this project because it means I don't have to.

Yeah, and that's the thing, you know me, like, I'm so detail-oriented on these things. Like, I'm not archiving, like, I'm not digitizing I should say, every moment of, like, this personal effects show. Like, there are hours and hours and hours of it, and it's just, like, super boring at times i'm mostly going through and grabbing the commercials out of them the segment that i sent you is just so of a time it's like it's just so corny about so the show was based in new york um but then they would send you know their their correspondents or their co-hosts out to various parts of the country where so and so has a special collection of this or that and so this one episode happened to have their co-host out in seattle and the segment that i grabbed for you was just like a seven minute segment and it's just like i don't know if you watch it but it's It's just like so rough around the edges, just like the host wandering around some some guys Simpsons collection as it was about to be displayed at the Seattle Center in 1995. And it was just like because of the Seattle. connection to it and the corniness of it and it's just it gets funnier and funnier the the more you watch it um but like i don't i don't record all of that stuff but i do keep a record of it like i have a google doc where i'm like time stamping every single like commercial break what's in that commercial break etc so and i'm hanging on to the tapes so if at some point i'm like oh i need to go back to that thing i should be able to find it i really think that i really think that i should have been an archivist like i've never gone to school for archiving but like it's these are the things that always like light up whatever pleasure centers of my brain yeah i think you i mean it's not too late to start andrew yeah i know i'm gonna probably need some i think you could still do it

i mean i have a lot of goals before i turn 50 now like one is to become an archivist oh i'm sorry Anarchist I always mix those up

I'm going to become an archivist

Archist, somebody who studies arts Isn't it funny how anarchist and archivist sound so similar And they really represent different worldviews

They really do, I mean it's complete opposites almost

It couldn't be more opposite Well Andrew, we've been talking about all this digitizing you've been doing And that of course brings us to our earned media spotlight Trader Joe's Entree dethrones a longtime favorite in Customer Choice Awards. This came to me by way of the San Francisco Chronicle, which was written by this piece by Susanna Guerrero. No one saw it coming, but a longtime customer favorite at Trader Joe's has been dethroned. Trader Joe's has released its 14th annual Customer Choice Awards, but noticeably missing from the annual list was the Mandarin Orange Chicken, an enduring classic now if I have this right though I feel like now I don't want to go I don't want to be critical of a fellow journalist but if I'm reading this right the mandarin orange chicken is not on the list because Trader Joe's retired five products so in other words it isn't that the mandarin orange chicken lost it isn't that people no longer like the mandarin orange chicken it's that Trader Joe's decided to, you know, get some more attention because the Mandarin Orange Chicken has been the recurring best entree in the Customer Choice Awards basically since they started doing this. So, in other words, the headline making you think that, like, it's been dethroned, it wasn't dethroned. They removed that and the other five most popular entrees in various categories so that there would be something new at the top that then they could talk about and get, you know, more coverage on personal FX.

That's ridiculous. So the whole story is bullshit It's not like they discontinued the products They just discontinued letting them compete Because they win all the time And then they get the headline Such and such is dethroned That's the fakest news I've ever heard in my life

And by the way I didn't select this because I wanted to You know Be sort of critical of someone But now that I'm looking at it Yeah that is a really bullshit headline Trader Joe's entree dethrones A long time favorite in customer choice now maybe it's further down in the article maybe there's something else that was slightly uh you know surprising but from what nope i'm looking at the whole story i got it right here it's one page i turned it over and you're like you ever turn the menu over you know you're at a place it's kind of fancy and it's like one of those like long narrow menus that you kind of like you're looking through it you're not seeing anything that looks very appealing and then you turn it over and the backside is blank and you're like okay i guess that's what

we're dealing with do you know i'm not even kidding sometimes i've never even talked about this before this show just brings up deep-seated things i realize that i sometimes do that but i try to do it casually because i feel like if i do it it seems passive aggressive like well i don't like anything on the front of this menu is there anything on the back but i don't want like this the the my fellow diners or the serving staff to think that that's what i'm trying to put out into the world like well nothing on side a let's hope you got something on side b um this is what the

uh people at trader joe's wrote this year we added a twist by retiring five products that have won many times in multiple categories over the 13 years um so we could make room for some products to shine that's why orange chicken was not on the list that's me talking not trader joe's but then andrew but wait it gets more annoying the last graph of this piece while the orange chicken didn't make the cut this year it wasn't forgotten trader joe's debuted a trader joe's product hall of fame which honored the store's overall customer favorites everyone please stand for the trader joe's product hall of fame uh among them among these customer favorites was the orange chicken so first of all the orange chicken it isn't that the orange chicken didn't make the cut this year

was dethroned they didn't let them compete now it was deboned it was deboned chicken is deboned but but um yeah trader joe's entree dethroned as a long time that's misleading and not correct and then while the orange chicken didn't make the cut this year also not an accurate description of what happened yep i was thinking when i printed this out low those many years ago back when fx was the most watched uh non-basic cable network i um actually probably was on basic cable i think so

i meant non-network although not on all because again it was so early i remember one episode they were thanking like some some cable provider in buffalo for picking them up or something in cable

town yes when i printed this out low those many years ago i just thought oh this would be a jumping off point for andrew and i to compare our notes on trader joe's on the phenomenon that is Trader Joe's, which is a perfectly reasonable way for T.B. Till to while away an hour or so. But then once I started reading it, I became enraged at how misleading that headline is. So now that's where we're at.

Yeah, and I'm not a Trader Joe's person. I think we've talked about this a little bit on the show. In fact, one of the only times I've set foot in Trader Joe's, I feel like I was with you in Bellingham because we're picking up something briefly. Genevieve will stop by a Trader Joe's that is between her workplace in our home every now and then and she'll come home with some of this i i think maybe she even maybe sometimes tries the tikka masala or oh yeah that's a butter chicken but like i've never i don't think i've ever partaken in those things before um i'm not a joe's bro like i you know there is a um there there was a big like asian grocery store and latin grocery store in our neighborhood that just closed you probably know of this place luke it used to be like harry's or something back in the day and everybody loved it but then it was like ht mart in the past you

mean up by the gate yes exactly yeah yeah that used to be called larry's market larry's what did i say that's where my friend millionaire mitch brotherton who was a board op at kvi bought a mil like a six or seven million dollar lotto ticket oh no shit really back when it was larry's Did he quit his job? He stayed board op-ing. It's a fun job, sure. For, like, a year. Yeah. But it was the morning show. That was the crazy part.

Oh, I'd buy my way in the afternoons.

Homeboy was coming in at 5 in the morning to run, like, roofing spots during Kirby Wilber's first hour. Where Kirby would just quietly read the front page of the Wall Street Journal into the microphone.

Morning people are a different—morning radio people are a very different breed.

It's—I mean, I have to say, I had—I remain friends with Mitch. Great guy. But I was shocked. I was only going in because they were giving me $31,000 a year to go there and do that. And even then, I didn't want to be there.

Are you remaining friends with him because you still want to get your beak wet a little bit? Was that invested well?

I assume he's blown through the rest of that probably on high-card flush at Goldie's or something. But anyway, that grocery store, I've never been in it since it was a Larry's. But I've seen it like cycle through kind of different iteration.

It's one of those things where it's prompting a lot of different emotions because I've been doing a lot of reading about it and stuff because it was so beloved as Larry's. And then also it's good to have like, you know, a grocery store that serves those communities here. But by the time Vives and I moved into the neighborhood, like it was pretty blown out. Like they didn't have any money left. It was pretty dirty in there. And like they didn't it was freezing cold because they stopped heating the place like it was really on its last legs. Yeah. And so, you know, depending on what goes in there, it's kind of a story of gentrification. But also, like, the point is here is it'll we're hoping that it's another grocery store. And so on the occasions that we have these conversations with our neighbors or friends in the area, we talk about, like, what could it be? And, like, there's a chance it could be a Whole Foods or an Amazon Fresh, which those don't super appeal to me. Could be a Trader Joe's, which definitely doesn't appeal to me. I'm kind of hoping for maybe a more standard like a like a QFC or a Safeway or Fred Meyer or something like that, because I'm for better or for worse. I'm drawn to grocery stores where there is just like they don't lean heavily into their own branded stuff, which is obviously a big part of the Trader Joe's model. But I believe it's the entire model. Yeah. And like I don't like, you know, I want to go to a place where I can get fresh step cat litter. You know what I mean? Like, I remember when we lived by Whole Foods, if we on the rare occasion that I didn't plan right, we're out of cat litter. I'm like, I guess I got to go get that crunchy stuff that like is just like, I don't know, it's probably better for the for the environment, whatever they sell at Whole Foods. But it's like, for $400, you can get this small pack of cat litter that you'll put in the box, and it'll immediately turn into soup. And you're just like, God damn it. Can you just please send me to a Safeway so I can get some just regular name brand cat litter? That's probably terrible for the environment. So I'm sort of hoping.

for a grocery store where i can just get that kind of stuff i don't want to trader joe's here like i'm just not part of that trader joe's community it's an interesting place to me because

every time i walk in there my thought is why don't i go to trader joe's more like i don't think it's super functional as just a straight up grocery store like they do have produce and stuff but it's all packaged a little differently like it's it isn't the place where like if i was going to make thanksgiving dinner or something i would go to a safeway or a qfc or maybe even a fred meyer here trader joe's exists in this other kind of world of grocery stuff which is like you said it's all their own brands they do a lot of really inventive stuff they have the a lot of like frozen food stuff really dialed in like that tikka masala thing like they have a whole bunch of different kind of sort of styles of i guess what you might call ethnic food that are good man like you heat those things up and you are you're loving it like but it's weird because it's the footprints of the stores are smaller than a traditional grocery store which is why legendarily the parking is a total nightmare and it's because it's not quite i can't make an i don't know why i need to explain trader joe's to people everyone's probably been to one but it's sort of like you're in something that is kind of familiar because like they sell food but everything looks a little different everything is there's stuff you've never seen before some of it is better than anything you've ever had in your life some of it is probably kind of not great and it's just it's i feel like you have to if you really want to like maximize your trader joe's experience you got to be somebody who goes there like that's where you do your shopping you got to learn all the ins and there's a lot of ins and outs yeah of traders like oh and if you're going to go to traders will you get me this that and the other like oh i i love to have their you know um you know madelines they have these cookies that are what like people get really obsessed with specific items there because they're not an item you can just go get at the safeway i never really quite got there although you're right when we lived in bellingham or when i lived in bellingham the actual closest grocery store was that tj's or trader joe's down at the bottom of the hill so i did go there a lot i guess but i never really again it feels like a fun world that i just haven't done the proper research on to really maximize like a fun ride that I just don't end up going

on that much. Yeah, when I think of Trader Joe's, and again, I've only set foot in one a few times in my life, but I always got it because the other one is, you know, kind of near the university district here in Seattle. And so it's often very crowded with students, there's often a line out the door. I don't know if that started before the pandemic, but certainly during the pandemic, when people were watching, like, how many people were allowed in a building in a public building at a certain time and I think ever since then there's still now you'll pass it at certain times and you'll see a line out the door and I just get itchy thinking about it like just going into I feel like every time I went into a Trader Joe's I immediately felt claustrophobic which is not my um you know preferred state of being yeah it's that definitely was happening

in Bellingham during the pandemic where you know obviously we were all masking up by the way i was really not that we need to get into this at the end of a friday show but i was really surprised at how few people are now masking in the airport it's really dropped like in the last couple of weeks do you mask in the airport uh sometimes i don't know i mean sorry listeners please don't get at me sometimes i do i have masks in my bag sometimes i do sometimes i don't that makes no sense like i totally understand that like it's not consistent but like whether i have a mask on or not i would say that about like as of like two three weeks ago i was a little surprised because like like i said i'll be totally honest i i don't generally mask in a lot of and i kind of like masking on the plane because i don't have to smell people's farts it's actually not a bad deal to mask on the plane or you ever get into you ever get into a

ride share and you're not wearing your mask and then you're like oh i'm going to put on my mask and that it kind of like looking at the back of the menu like i'm uh you know what maybe i will put on my mask in this car because there's maybe a little bit of a smell but like you're like well is this gonna seem passive aggressive if i suddenly feel like i literally i took a lift

from the airport here this morning and we got into the car and the guy literally put his like n95 on so maybe i'm the problem well but i mean were you in the car for like three or four minutes

and then right that's the thing that i think i'm trying to think of it was you know what now that i say that it was probably a bus that i was on where i was like oh you know what maybe i suddenly am interested in wearing my mask i don't know why i'm suddenly interested in my safety and yours

right and i again i i'm not trying to open a whole um can of worms regarding mask i know a lot of people feel really strongly that it's still the kind of socially responsible thing to do i totally respect that probably we i my guess is we should probably all still be masking uh there is a fatigue factor though i think for a lot of us and what i've noticed is as of like three weeks ago or a month ago, I would see a significant number of people that were masking in the airport and when i went to san francisco yesterday maybe just happened to be the the 500 people that i hustled past during my time at pdx it was down to like one out of probably 20 like it used to be like five out of 20 it's down to one out of 20 i don't know what's changing it's it's again it's all anecdotal but it's interesting to observe human behaviors changing very kind of subtly because i think for a lot of us those of us you know who are don't have pre-existing conditions and comorbidities and things a lot of us i think are feeling less stressed about covid than we have been over the last you know two three years and you can see it in how people are behaving yeah certainly i you know and i'm just being

honest here and i know that we have because because you know i'm i maybe less so because i'm not on twitter anymore but obviously i'm on social media and i follow people who are uh listeners of this show and i i know that there are some listeners in our audience who feel very strongly who feel very disappointed in our society that we're just going back to kind of maskless more lazy ways um and you know and i don't want to i don't want to offend those people or hurt them but i'm also just going to be honest like i think you know when vives and i flight i think or when vives and i flew recently i think i wore my mask on the airplane the bad man flight i think i wore it a little bit like before the plane took off like in the close quarters but like that was kind of it i don't think i wore it in the airports i don't think i wore it in the airports themselves i'll tell you where i've gotten better if it's changed me at all it's if i feel like i might be coming down with something um i will put it on like i like the i remember going to the grocery store a few months ago i ended up not and i don't think i did have anything but i was a little sniffly and i'm like well if i'm a little sniffly and i'm going to the grocery store put on a mask you know what i mean and i always i still feel weird if i don't have a mask with me when I leave the house, even though I rarely wear it. I'm almost always even the springtime or summer, I kind of usually have a jacket or something. And I always I always have masks on me in my left hand coat pocket. And I don't put it on all that often. But I do wonder if I'll ever get to a point where it's almost like the new cigarettes for me. Like if I was out in public when I was a smoker, and I suddenly realized I didn't have my pack of cigarettes, I'd get panicky. This is a healthier version of that. Way healthier. Yeah, the Rudy's to take it back to

if i can it's i think it must just be store by store like how the people working there feel because some of them are like mask required and some of them are like hey if you want to wear a mask that would be awesome so i have a mask i usually wear well certainly if it's mask required i do and even the ones that are like it'd be cool if you wear a mask i do because like who cares what's the downside that's the thing i i would say that like i am personally somebody who doesn't wear a mask a ton but i also don't care if somebody else is and of course and also i am not offended if somebody asks me to wear one it's like it's such a small like it's so no skin off my back like a lot of the livewire stuff uh we'll still mask backstage and people it's like i just like if me putting on some little piece of paper makes someone else feel better it's like it's such a small ask you know it just doesn't bother me but as far as like in a lot of spaces and you know 99 nine percent of the time I'm just kind of living my life again yeah I think the barbershop example

is the perfect example because I usually go to the same Rudy's and you know for a while long after the the the mandate went away you'd walk into Rudy's and if everybody was wearing masks I'd put a mask on you know and you know like my barber for a while and I think I've gone to the same barber for maybe the past four or five cuts now and I think at first when she was cutting my hair she was wearing a mask and so if I saw that she was wearing a mask I took that as a sign hey i should put my mask on and now she stopped wearing one so i'm like okay and then it's probably fine i think i even asked her at one point like do you need me to mask up and she said no so i think like that especially situations like that they're close like this is a person at work and it's such close quarters you know what i mean there aren't a lot of jobs where you're getting that close to somebody so i definitely defer to them i was i was i forget where i was

but i saw somebody who was wearing a mask while doing a job and my thought was i bet you that the mask it was some kind of customer service position and i thought i bet you anything they love wearing a mask because you don't have to smell everyone's breath you don't have to deal with people are just maybe they're malodorous in one way or another who knows like there are certainly a few cases where i think wearing a mask is probably like you know really a nice thing to not have to have so much of humanity's grossness just kind of like expectorating in your direction from close up yeah and like it was one of those things where i thought i bet you that they're gonna wear that mask you know for the duration of doing this job just purely because it probably

makes the job actually better yeah a bus driver if you're a bus driver maybe you know i mean they're still on all the buses that i ride here because i guess what's the point of taking them down, but they still have those... They installed in all the city buses these big plastic like plexiglass shields, almost like an extra door so that when the bus driver uses the lever to open the door to the outside, they close themselves in. You don't ride bus as much. I don't know if you can kind of picture that, but, you know, the buses still have that. And often the bus driver is back there masked up, you know, and I'm like, yeah, that's probably a job where like, why not? You're dealing with a lot of humanity, as you say.

let's do a little music for your weekend before we i didn't get into the illuminati of lake oswego but maybe we can talk about that on monday because something very surprising happened to me uh recently in the online space and i do want to tell you about on monday okay i'll um i'll move it over to monday's show sheet but in the meantime we've got music for your weekend and um this is an interesting one andrew you texted me last night and said hey uh you wanted to present both your music for your weekend and the listener music for your weekend. So I will let you start with your suggestion. Yeah, I kind of couldn't choose

between two songs. I realized, oh, one of them came my way through a listener. So why not make that the listener choice? But we'll start with our personal choices. And this one for me is just I mean, I don't know exactly how this ended on my current Spotify playlist. I mean, the easy answer Probably I heard it on Kixi or I might have heard a listener sent me a Kixi-esque, I think, Portland area community radio station where they play a lot of like kind of like really early oldies stuff along with some weekend ham radio instructional shows. So that is definitely I'm looking forward to spending more time with that radio station. But either way, at some point, some algorithm, some radio station played this for me. And I don't know if this is a song I've heard in the background quite a bit of my life and it just stood out at this time or if this is indeed new to me. But I am enamored with this song. I feel like if you want to know what I liked most about Kixi before they started changing the playlist and making it too modern, this was the music that I expected. This is pure, uncut Kixi radio. Put it in my veins. This is a song called Theme for a Dream by Cliff Richard in the Shadows.

you are my theme for a dream yes you are a rare and lovely theme you're a theme for a dream the dreams i dream day and night that your arms are holding me sometimes you're a theme for a dream when i dream i kiss you kiss you music builds with starlight starlight every time i touch you When I touch you Each and every time A chime rings out I love you Only you forevermore Cause you're my thing for a dream Yes, you are A rare and lovely thing You're my thing for a dream

Probably should have given a warning before I played that. It is a little rough around the edges. I hope it didn't offend anybody, but...

What a simpler time nowadays would be. You're a face for my spank bank. oh why would you ruin that moment i'm saying it's good that they were more innocent than they didn't

for my dream that yeah anyway uh i love that have you heard that before do you know that i haven't

and it was what i was thinking about as it was playing was every you know once in a while i don't listen to nearly as much kicksy as you do well let's be honest no one does but i will just hear an oldie that i've never heard before that just like knocks my socks off and i'm thinking there were so many songs made like you know you we know the famous ones the ones that became you know number one hits but there were so many really good songs that were either not that popular or maybe from an era that we weren't paying i'm just always shocked by how many great old songs there are that i still have never heard that when i hear them just like oh my god this is all i'm

gonna listen to for the next week and like i said like i might have heard that as a kid and it just didn't stand out to me because we listen to so many oldies but like suddenly like wherever i was whatever i was doing all of a sudden i was like what is this wonderfulness like that to me also seems like something that like you would i don't know like i know people say this too much but like i could see that in some sort of a scene in the david lynch movie or just like that that just like just absolutely undistilled pure corny oldies like that man makes me makes my heart sing i like

hearing new ones though because i've the the ones that i know i've heard so many times that it's just kind of like okay we get it but then when you hear one that you haven't heard before it's like you get all the fun of a really catchy oldie but without the fatigue yes i was telling views that

just the other day with like um twist You and shout the beatles version and like that's a really iconic version and john's voice is all blown out because it's got a great story behind it but like i kind of don't need to hear that anymore right like i've just heard that song so much and even though it's cool like it's just one of those that i'm like we can put that oldie on the shelf we don't have to dust that off anymore

i'm really rolling the dice here andrew with my music for your weekend uh i've been listening to this song i've been enjoying it it is wildly inappropriate for our show there is no radio edit there is no clean edit that i can find so i timed it today and i believe i can play exactly 22 seconds of the song 210s by cordea featuring anderson pock i will play it from here i have it in front of me i don't trust you andrew to play it from there okay uh it's a big because if it goes past 22 seconds we definitely will get fired slash the listeners will leave us i am here to tell you this song is catchy af it presents a view of the world and a way of describing the world that isn't my view but i i believe that you know corday and anderson pock have every right to to express themselves as they see fit but if you're like if you enjoy this song i would say maybe uh don't play it like don't go right to spotify and play it if you're like kids are Making constipation jokes in the back seat It's, I'm just saying But I mostly want to play it because I think you'll Really dig the first 22 seconds of this song Andrew, because I know you love Anderson .Paak So this is

Are they a duo or is it a person?

He's a person, he's a rapper guy Gotcha I think Anderson is actually the first voice on this Song, but here we go

Yep Yep and that's what i can play for you andrew okay great i think i was saying that wrong too is it

corday i think i said corday my apologies i don't actually know how you say this is the first i've

heard i saw this song bouncing around it was really catchy i'm saying corday i think but i

that's on zero authority so no it looks like that and i think i said cordaya um it reminds me a little bit of cliff richard just a little bit theme for a dream did you hear that too i don't think i did i'm just joking that was the um song that i just played and they're very different

i thought cliff rich i forgot that that was the name of the artist and then i forgot the song was called i forgot everything from the previous two minutes oh and I was thinking Cliff Richard was a rapper that I'm not familiar with. And then all I was thinking was, is that like a reference to Cliff Robinson, the Portland Trailblazer who famously always wore a headband? My brain went to a lot of places that didn't need to go right there, Andrew.

You were willing to. You wanted to go with it. Like you were looking for any inroad.

I was trying, but I was like Bubbles and you mimed that you threw an earplug for me. And now I was just off to another part of the kitchen hunting for it.

You were hunting for the reference. Here, let me share with you some music for your weekend from listener David. This is our friend David of the band The Smittens. Oh, yeah. And I was talking on the show.

Mike Sniffer Smittens? Mike Sniffer Smittens who? How many Mike Sniffer Smittens do you know? Let me in. It's cold out here. Jeez. That 80 miles. Jeez.

this is from listener David okay so I was talking I think to the dismay of some listeners who love Bruce Springsteen I was saying how like I understand he's a good guy and I understand that people love his music I don't have any problem with Bruce Springsteen but I've never really enjoyed Bruce Springsteen's music it's just not for me it's not a style of music that I'm drawn to and I kind of just had that realization this week that there's not like one song that i kind of know and like um and david said basically like i'm kind of with you on bruce springsteen but do you trust me listener david and i do trust listener david i think we have very similar taste in some kinds of music uh only he knows he actually understands music whereas i don't um but david says a friend shared the song years ago when it came out it's late era bruce springsteen and it sounds like the magnetic fields i'm not trying to change your mind on this but this song is an outlier dare to dream this is from david um and the name of the song i think this is from 2006 and the name of the song is girls in their summer clothes and boy david could not be more right this sounds like the magnetic field i think you'll and you're a big magnetic

fields fan right so i'll be interested i really like 69 love songs i i and i think that's called like the charm of there's another there's another like album called like the charm of the lonely highway or something that i kind of liked but i

I sound like you now in that. I don't know if I'd wear a Magnetic Fields t-shirt because if someone was like, what's your favorite song? I would just be like, one of them from 69 Love Songs.

Right, like who's your favorite pitcher in the Magnetic Fields? You're like, I don't know, man.

Exactly. I can't even name anybody on the roster. So, okay, cool. So we're going to hear some Bruce Springsteen that sounds like the Bruce Springsteen song that sounds like the Magnetic Fields that will convert it will turn even a heart of stone like andrews into um it will turn it towards the work of the boss i bet you half of it for you is just that his nickname is the boss no which i'd like to say i doubt bruce springsteen declared himself to be the boss he seems to be not that kind of guy but that couldn't have helped the uh you know your thoughts on the uh the career of the boss i don't

think that really plays into it i mean like you said like with that band dead you know it's like sometimes you you will hear the name of a band and you'll form an opinion but then the music will be different than what you're expecting i don't think that i don't i don't really contemplate the idea that his name is the boss it's just not my kind of music usually but this is a very different sound you know this is not the e street what we're going to hear this is again like a 2006 solo springsteen so yeah i do like this song so i'll play it for you all and again apologies to the hardcore bruce springsteen fans who are dismayed to hear that i had as i put it on monday show not let bruce springsteen into my life yet um well i haven't heard this song either so i'm

actually looking uh very forward to hearing it for the first time uh this is going to be the end of this week's tbtl sessions but the good news is we'll be right back here on monday with more imaginary radio for you so until then please have a great weekend uh or weekend however you pronounce it stay safe take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

God, I'm a blessing avenue Lovers, they walk by Holding hands two by two The breeze crosses the porch Bicycles, books, spin round Jackets on out the door Tonight I'm going to burn this town down And the girls in their summer clothes In the cool of the evening light The girls in their summer clothes Pass me by Kids rubber balls smacks off the go beneath the map line big back

clock shines off to the sleeping

front porch light

knock knock who's there Mike Sniffer Pippets

Mike Sniffer Pippets who

Mike Sniffer Pippets who how many Mike Sniffer Pippets do you know come on let me in it's cold out here Geez, power out.