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Well, alright, hello, good morning and welcome everyone Welcome to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

I'm going to get you, get you drunk, get you drunk off my lady hump.

My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. You really are the most devious bastard in New York City. I am, in fact, back on the West Coast. I am no longer in New York City. I am coming to you today from the future home of TBTL, the Riverhouse Studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia River where, once again, we're looking at a beautiful day. Oh, Ma, Pa, it's just beautiful. Had another tugboat sighting this morning, which, as I mentioned the last time I did the show from here, the whole thing, the whole reason that I've upended and am ruining my life in my bank account is to build out this space and have a place to do TBTL from where I can look at tugboats working their way down the Columbia River. So every time I see that happening, it puts a little wind in my sails. So just know, my sails are full of wind today here on episode 3,872 in a collector's series.

Let the fun begin.

There is an article that has been sent to me. Actually, you know what? My dad, my dad, Walt Burbank, sent me this article, but many listeners have as well, regarding taco time. I might have tacos when I go home. I'm not quite sure yet. There's an article in Seattle Met magazine that's really kind of like the definitive piece on this very unique to the Northwest culinary tradition known as taco time. So we will taco about that. Sorry, I couldn't resist. coming up during Top Stories. Also, Netflix is cracking down on password sharing. So who needs a movie? Not in the U.S. yet, but it's on its way. We'll take a look at what they're doing. And we'll also, because it's a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day, we'll do some Blur's Day messages as well. And we'll say hello to this young man, the longest-running Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships.

He's my devil, my dark lover, my alter ego. Sometimes I think he's my conscience.

He's Andrew Walsh, and he is joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. Just putting down this homemade Wordle that I got from a friend. You know, there's homemade Wordles now that you can send via text message. You can come up with your own Wordle puzzle and then send it to your friends and say, figure this out.

As you're saying that, I'm realizing something about myself. I am not intellectually curious at all.

I think that's untrue. I think you just don't enjoy games, maybe.

Yeah, but what does that say about me? Because so many people...

That's not intellectually curious, though. I think you're incredibly intellectually curious.

Maybe, well, thank you. No, I don't mean it as a compliment. I hate intellectually curious people. They drive me up a wall. I don't. it's like it's i'm just realizing how quickly i got into and out of wordle and you know when i'm when i was participating and i enjoyed it but it's like unless you bring it up unless we're talking about your world text chain that your car is reading to you aloud that's funny yeah that is actually really funny but like it's amazing to me

that you and a number of my really good friends have maintained this kind of wordle text chain

Thank you.

and people are making their like there's not enough wordle in the world for folks they're making their own and again it sounds like i'm being a little bit derisive and i really don't mean to be i'm just shocked at how how much that does not like i was on the plane flying home yesterday and the guy next to me was doing sudoku on his phone the entire six hour flight i can't

get Sudoku. Wordle is the only thing like this that I enjoy, I think. Sudoku, I don't quite get it. It makes my brain hurt. Crossword puzzles, I feel like I'm trapped inside of them, and I feel claustrophobic. I hate crossword puzzles. I don't know why I like Wordles. Maybe because they're a little bit easier, but I don't know if that's true either, because isn't there somebody in your life who loves crossword puzzles, but can't... Yeah, Becca. And she's so

good at them. She can do...

But she's also into Wordle, though, right? She's also into Wordle. She likes all of that. stuff i thought there was somebody who likes intellectually curious at all no no it asks zero follow-up questions ever about anything about anybody it's weird dude you want to get on genevieve's bad side by the way meet her for the first time yeah you know what end it there you're right no need to discuss more but that is a real thing like there's been a few times where like you know over the course of our now pretty lengthy relationship we'll maybe meet some some friend from my past or something right somebody I haven't met in or I haven't seen in 10 years and they're in Seattle so let's go get drinks and then if we go have drinks for an hour or two or dinner or something with somebody and that person never even once like asked Genevieve so like what do you do or what are you into or what's your deal and like if they only talk about themselves like that to Genevieve is a real sign of of how these people will navigate the world in a more

self-centered way well this brings me to the thing that i bring up a lot on the show which i think is very would be very easy for the listeners to sort of take the wrong way or at least not take it in how i'm intending it but i am also shocked when i'm in a conversation with someone and they say what do you do and i say well i host a podcast and they ask no follow-up questions and it's not because i think it's such a cool thing that we do this podcast but just it's not a normal job i mean as many podcasts as there are it's still not a normal job for someone to have and in the in the way uh that if i ask someone what they do for a living and they said i'm a farrier meaning i actually like take care of the hooves of of animals of farm animals i would it would not be like so what do you do for a living well i trim cow hooves anyway have you seen the mariners starting five like no we're stopping and talking about cow hooves because that's just not what people usually say in response to that and when somebody asks it's it's a weird thing for me because i both don't really care about getting into it like i was out here at the house um with the contractor who's helping me out and uh he is uh a kind of a cbs sunday morning fan which is really cool and is probably helping me get the project done because he turns his tv on sunday and sees me and thinks you know what i do need to buy more tyvek uh and put it up on that guy's house because right now it's exposed to the weather so we had an architect come over um for some additional engineering needs and we're walking around and i'm chatting and then at some point the contractor i work with says the architect this guy's famous this guy's on cbs sunday morning and i kind of like as you might imagine turn like beet red and i'm going into my like little shtick about well yeah they'll let anyone on tv and i'm so famous that you had no idea that i do that for my job you know i'm doing all this kind of deflection so that's part of it that i don't really want to get into it but if i do mention even like oh what do you do i i am a correspondent for cbs sunday morning and then the person just moves on i'm shocked by that because i just feel like it's an unusual answer and it would it would bear some conversation it's interesting i i

understand what you're saying i know we've this is somewhat well grad well um tread territory for us but uh like i'm always relieved if i can get out of a conversation without talking too much about my job but also just generally speaking about me i think i just find it more exhausting to talk about myself or i feel like oh no like i just hope people don't have follow-ups i understand where genevieve is coming from as far as that being like kind of a maybe a bit of a warning sign of where somebody's head is but you add the the the layer of the fact that i do work on a podcast but it's not straightforward you know like no offense luke but like if my main gig was doing after these messages and it was just kind of like what do you do i host a podcast oh yeah what's it about oh it's about commercials tv commercials and they say oh i hate commercials yeah a lot of people hate them but everybody's got an opinion like it's just so much easier to talk about and there is something specifically about doing this show well it was a radio show what's it like can I listen to it like I hate the conversation turning to I host a podcast I really hate it um I don't agree with you I also hate talking about

it that's why I'm saying this is the weirdest like hang up for me is that I would much rather talk about what the other person does for a job or what they're interested in you know there was that whole period of time I think maybe even Vives was doing this where it was like what what are you really excited about or something like there's a better kind of like icebreaker than what do you do for your work because a lot of people aren't that interested in what they do for work or are between jobs or they work in the home and you know what i mean like yeah maybe that's not the best

way let me jump in just to say that that was a big thing for vives in los angeles because she started to realize that like a lot of people were either working gigs to make money while they're passion lay elsewhere right or they might be in between things like you say but like if you meet somebody in LA and you say well what do you do for a living it's like well I guess I bartend but that's not what they want to talk about they want to talk about their their comedy career or their studio that they're building or what have you so Genevieve got in the habit of asking people like so so what are you into or something along those lines or or I don't think she says this but kind

of like oh so what's your deal kind of situation right and so my deal is that I both I both don't want to talk about the podcast because of the reasons you laid out like it's very hard to describe most people have kind of no context for it uh but that's not true but i just it's it's exactly as you as you described it it's like oh what do you do a podcast what's it about oh well i can i hear it no you shouldn't like i would avoid it you and i are the worst sales people for this thing that could ever exist but i both don't want to talk about it and i'm kind of mildly surprised when people don't want to talk about it.

Yeah, see, for me, I don't have that follow-up. I mean, I think I understand what you're talking about, but I don't have that follow-up feeling. I just always feel like I dodged a bullet, sort of.

I have had it happen, too, where people that I know pretty well, I mean, I think Becca has even brought this up, not as it related to me and her in conversation, which is what I call us hanging out. By the way, tonight at Skamania Lodge, Luke Burbank in conversation with Becca But like It's been noted that sometimes When I'm probably when I'm nervous Or I'm meeting people or For the first time or whatever that I will just Shift into interviewer mode

Ah that is something to watch out for too Yeah you can come off as too intense maybe If you're asking too many questions

I'm just interviewing people like I'm just asking I'm hosting a show featuring This person who didn't realize they were going to be a guest On the talk show that I'm doing because i don't want to talk about myself or because my default setting is to is to just interview the person that i'm uh with as opposed to narrate to them my life yeah ironically i sit here narrating my life to you for an hour a day five days a week but that's i'm getting paid to do this i don't

want to do that on my free time and handsomely um i feel like yeah and you and i are also and i think i would have said this before i even knew you um but even when we're not doing things when we're not talking into microphones and we're just talking in the world which is a weird thing to do because you don't get paid for that um and also the line is very blurry yeah that's why you

and i are constantly going were we at teddy's or were we getting paid to do our jobs because we had

a conversation about this sometimes after i meet somebody at the bar and we chat for a couple of hours i just wait for them to give me a donation and they don't realize why i'm i'm waiting and i to sort of keep tapping you slip them a qr code i just scan it automatically deducts five bucks a month from their account i just slide my phone across the table and it's a tbtl donation page uh anyway i uh what i was gonna say was i think that our personalities even if we didn't work in this industry although it may have amplified it some is we're both like keep the needles moving kind of people um yes last week on the show i think we ended the show we ended the week last we getting I think pretty somewhat heavy talking about you know my my predilection to kind of stay home and and my aversion to a lot of social situations because it may be it while social situations recharge some people's batteries they kind of drain my batteries and I think maybe that is it it's like because I take nobody's asked me to do this but like I sort of take on a responsibility for a conversation not having awkward pauses because I hate awkward pauses so you're just like kind of a so that's why i say i think you and i are both sort of like keep the needles moving kind of guys which if you keep them moving too much it can seem like wait what are we doing are

we talking or are you are you grilling me right or are like if i'm just like tap dancing so hard like is this a real conversation or are you just am i just making noises so that i don't have to think my thoughts you know i will tell you this in doing you know i don't do a lot of like the tv stories that i do are generally not like super heavy or intense but sometimes with live wire you know we'll be talking to somebody who's been through um some trauma or whatever or even in real life andrew which is uh like the time when i'm not getting paid when i'm having conversations with people i've really had to work on i think the kind of like therapy speak for it would be holding space like when somebody is dealing with something that's emotionally you know when someone is just feeling sadness i have to really internally work to just be quiet and like let that happen and just be there with the person and for the person because my tendency is to want to like basically start hosting a show with them so that they're not feeling sad and so you know weren't these feelings are sort of being it feels in the moment like i'm making it better but it's off it would be not making it better for me to be like so anyway you know but i have had to really like on stage sometimes you know we've had people cry during recordings and you're on stage and you're in front of kind of a lot of people and it's like my tendency is to want to just like turn into the wb cartoon frog hello my baby hello my darling um but i'm just like i have to really tell my brain just be here with this person it's okay it's it can be quiet right now like it's but it's it's a it's not reflexive for me at all hello my ragtime doll or hello my

ragtime gal how do you leave us hanging on that that's like i'm sorry in a haircut i'm just over here like are you know are we gonna finish that croissant i really like as i was going into that

that bit i was i was personally feeling unsatisfied that i had to finish the line so thank you for

that i think that's why i think i sing that to my cat a lot hello bananas yeah i do when i'm feeding bananas sometimes i do some version of that um what i was gonna say was yeah and it's i think that this is not something that i'm very experienced in at all but on the very rare occasions in my career where i'm sitting down to interview somebody but it's just me and that person or maybe me and that person and another producer or something but we're just collecting tape and it's going to be produced into something later or even it's it's just going to be an interview that airs later like you know you can go back and edit out spaces if they go on for too long but even in those situations i think younger like people who are newer to the craft of interviewing still have to often reinforce to themselves like let this space be i think a lot of people have trouble just letting space be even in the moment because it's maybe especially our generation, we don't like awkwardness or talking about certain topics. And so we plaster it with a nervous laugh or a joke, a misplaced joke or something along those lines. But I think that being on stage, it must be a real mind F because if somebody is talking to you about something that is, you know, troubling or related to some sort of trauma or something that is difficult for them to talk about, or maybe that's not even there. And maybe it's not right to say that because somebody's crying it's difficult i don't know but um but you aren't alone in the room with them and you can think well i can leave this space here and let it breathe because if it doesn't work later on we can we can tighten it up but in the meantime i just need to leave every space available for this person to follow up if you're on stage you have such competing interests i mean there's what 500 people in a room looking at you during this moment well yes but the thing that i'm trying to

remind myself and again this doesn't happen like all the time i promise you it will happen in march at town hall in seattle if you guys come out i promise at least one guest will cry or a producer i will or your money back or producers cry every show because they have to work with me but um what i try to remind myself also is the audience is more okay with awkwardness than i give them credit for like the live audience because i am so averse to awkwardness or a pause or anything that isn't hello my baby hello my darling hello my ragtime gal ragtime gal i want to say ragtime gal i do too i always want to say it ragtime gal anyway what i what i try to remind myself also is that the audience has actually pretty okay like the audience will go places with you like and and also if it's if there's a four second pause on stage which feels like a lifetime if it's compelling what's going on the audience is pretty okay with that in my experience like i'm so worried about losing them or it being awkward but like they've they're usually actually a little bit more i don't know up for it than i give them credit because i'm such a nervous weird person that i assume they're all like crawling out of their skin all the time and turns out

most people aren't and they're fine with it and that then that goes back to the micro when we're talking about just us at a party or a social gathering and not feeling the need to like be like there's an awkward conversation like it's my job to fill this in some way yes

hello my baby hello my honey hello my right time i'm gonna find a better version i really

like loud and is that like rufus wainwright i don't know who it is it doesn't matter i wanted Can't you get the WB Frog singing? Yeah, I mean, I guess I wanted the scratchiest, because it didn't originate with that, right? Like, it was adopted by them.

You wanted to be playing on a Victrola. You wanted any dog in the neighborhood to cock their head.

And that looked like the jankiest version, so I was like, oh, it's going to be buried under so much snap, crackle, and pop of the Victrola. And instead, it was somebody on YouTube doing their own version. How about this?

Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime cow. Send me a kiss by wire Baby, my heart's on fire If you lose me, honey, you'll lose me Then you'll be left alone Oh, baby, telephone And tell me I'm your own

Now, that's an actual scene I had no idea Send me a kiss by wire Maybe my heart's on fire That's a pretty good line First comment on YouTube If I ever get married I'm singing this song to them So that was a clip You have to dress like the WB frog Which is a top hat a cane and i believe a tuxedo but only the top no pants we're gonna learn something here because

that was the wb frog i think or somebody who's goes by michigan j frog but what you just heard was an actual clip from some random cartoon it looks like there's a construction worker looking on and kind of like kind of mugging a little bit being like what in the world is going on with this frog i can't tell if this is a something from like animaniacs that is a reference back to the wb frog Or if this was how the WB frog originated But this is not like sort of the logo version If that makes sense The one that we can just kind of picture before a movie When do we see this? Like how do we all know this? Why is this in my life?

Was it because the WB network You know, obviously it's Warner Brothers Where they were heavy in the cartoon game When we were kids, right? I mean, Animaniacs, that was a WB thing, right? Yeah Like, did they have their whole own – the WB was a channel, right? It did become one, but I think this predates it. Right, but I think Michigan J. Frog, who, interestingly, sometimes is just nude and sometimes has the tuxedo on, but, again, no pants. But always a hat, though. When you say nude, you can leave your hat on.

I believe this is his famous song. Yes.

hello my baby hello my honey you can leave your hat on i would love to recut the dancing frog

with the song you can leave your hat on from nine and a half weeks god i promise you there's an

entire pornography channel dedicated to that i'm checking reddit as we speak somebody's deal um do we say pornography like is that is that is that like um pejorative or do we i don't think so

In fact, I like that you said the whole word, not just porn or porno, as some people would. But I feel like in the 80s, people said porno. Do you want to watch a porno film?

Like, what? Who are you hanging out with?

I'm just like watching. I don't know. Like, for some reason, I can picture somebody on Cheers saying that. Yes. You know, we went to a stag party. And before that, they were called a stag film, right? Yeah, exactly.

Did I ever tell you the story of, and this isn't, it's not necessarily inappropriate, uh like for little ones maybe it is i don't know the lengths that peter and i my friend peter williams and i went to to get our hands on our first uh stag film this was i mean i know you

often sort of reference the the the finding it in the woods or something like that well i mean

that was kind of in yeah you know there was there was an occasional you know playboy or hustler that somebody's like older brother would have and you get your hands on it but we didn't have any access to an actual like a videotape of adults uh you know engaging in uh in activities and so we at like the age of probably 17 16 or 17 because you had to be 18 to buy that kind of stuff we enacted what could only be called like an oceans 11-esque plot to purchase some and it involved peter who was very swarthy growing his facial hair out for like three weeks intentionally so that he would look older and we realized we thought we can't rent this because like we can't go into an adult video store and rent anything because they're going to ask for an id um and and so we were going to have to just buy this like that's the transaction that's going to have the least amount of paperwork and so we we went on a mission driving around seattle trying to identify what we thought was the adult We'll be right back.

video store which would have the most lax standards and we decided on this place that was above a restaurant in pike place market like kind of down the street from pike place market um you would have to go through like a deli and then you'd go up some stairs and on the second floor was an adult video and bookstore for some reason we figured that place was going to have the most lax enforcement policy i don't know what we based that on we just we just thought They probably care the least And so we did this whole thing Where again he grew his beard out We went into the store Together which is by the way the most teenage Move ever I promise you adult Men are not going to the adult Video store together in twos While one of them just like kind of Wanders around the back of the store and the other one Like tries to purchase a video

Right right right I mean I'm sure there are some situations Where couples might go and Take out a tape together or something but I'm sure that was not the energy that you guys were bringing now i do have some questions about that i mean like let's just don't rush through this story for god's sake like this is interesting so i love picturing as best i can this sort of establishment that is up above a deli or you have to walk through a deli um now back was where the stairs were so this is only an adult video store this is not a video store that sells all kinds of things like maybe you get some top gun maybe you go behind the beaded curtain and you get something a little bit sexier and you bring them both to the front like if you're in there you're looking for sexual content exactly that okay we had already we had

already exhausted all of our options at the at the like blockbusters of the world um or as my um my my mother's stepmom used to call it buster blockers i take those if i'm nervous if i'm going on stage um i take one before every episode of tbtl um yeah it was we had so the way we had progressed with this was we would go to blockbusters and they had a section called the midnight movie section and it wasn't behind a beaded curtain because i think part of blockbusters deal was they did not rent you know extremely graphic adult content they had like movies that were just an excuse for you know bucks some women to take their shirts off such as blue ribbon babes Or Losing It Or you know I used to know the names of a bunch of these Just terrible By the way Losing It starred a young Tom Cruise Oh okay I think I knew that Some guys that are going to Tijuana to try to Rid themselves of their virginity And hilarious hijinks ensue But what we would do there is we would go to Blockbuster We would go to the midnight movie section We would get something that was Purely for the nudity And then we would go rent something That was legit like a room with a view i'm not even shitting you we would rent like a way too serious movie and then bring them up and it'd be like blue ribbon babes with a room with a view which honestly you might even do better

with a room with a view i'm not sure about that particular movie but i know that some of those period pieces dude were it's real sleepers the unbearable lightness of being what are you serious

so much nudity i'm not kidding you we rented the i have no idea the plot of the unbearable politeness of being but i can tell you there there is full nudity in that movie we were like we don't know what these people are talking about but they don't have clothes on so we're into it

i don't even think i knew that was a movie i thought that was a book i'm looking at that so

there's a film adaptation of it and because it was like is it like myelin kundera or whatever yeah good good remembering um like i feel like it was very european right it was kind of like it just felt like people were naked a lot in the movie and we were pretty stoked about that how we got that info is interesting like i don't know how did two this would have been like 15 year old guys understand that the movie the unbearable lightness of being was going to have some full frontal nudity in it like how do you get that information there was no internet remember but so anyway we had exhausted all those options and we were ready to go to the next level with this which was getting owning our very own pornographic videotape and so oh and this is okay so this is

not a rental this is where you would buy one that's of course no rental because we didn't we

couldn't set up the account because we weren't 18 sure okay so we needed to just like buy it and hope that the person behind the counter didn't ask you know for id or any sort of you know verification questions and that's how we landed on this place that was near pike place market um and uh and and we were in there and i remember like i'm in the back of the store just like sweating bullets but trying to act casual as i peruse adult materials and then i see peter just like going for it like he's approaching the counter and he has like i he has like maybe two tapes and i'm just a grocery cart overflowing with vhs tapes they're falling out behind him he has a truck he's backing up to the counter and i just remember being like he's walking up to the counter oh my god like i think in my mind i was like if this doesn't work we're going to jail for life right like i was like the stakes are so higher at some point it wasn't even about like are we going to get our hands on this material it was are we going to be incarcerated over this like that's what it that that's what it felt like to me and i'm just like he's look and then i'm like look away don't stare at him he's going to the counter and then i look back over and he's just walking towards the door and he has a bag and i'm like i can't believe this plan worked and then i let him leave and then i like kind of casually wander towards the door and then i get out and then we like run to the car and i'm like what did you get he goes i don't know i just grabbed something it was a movie called three musketeers oh my god yeah i guess we're it was a three musketeers um oh thanks oh thanks i didn't know if you need some explanation on that but um it was like he literally i don't even it wasn't like he didn't like grab i don't know what our interests were but it wasn't like he was like what are the movies most relevant to me and luke's interest was what are the movies that in his own calculation the guy would be the least likely to id him over like it made no sense but this is your logic when you're 16 or 17 and um that was a big day for us that was a really big day we got our hands on some on some materials and that's why we all know

about the wb frog well hold on though okay so again let's not rush any of this um so okay so a couple of things did you return to this place ever now that you knew you had an inn

you know i don't think i don't think i did i don't know what peter was doing maybe now that he now that he knew that this beard was sufficient to uh you know this was his passport into the world of adult content um i don't remember us going back there after that um because i think what also you know yeah i don't i don't remember us going back you think we would though i think we were just pretty excited about this tape we had like and i'm just wondering and this

is kind of why i don't think you have an answer for this i'm just sort of like wondering especially back then how much the people who ran these establishments really cared about id-ing someone or what have you like and also I think that would be a difference in being like a rental store that also had an adult section versus a store that only caters to these needs right like needs I feel like if you're serving alcohol if you're a place where a lot of your income comes from alcohol sales you definitely need to stay on top of that because there are stings and people you know like law enforcement liquor control people will come in and sometimes kick the tires on whether or not you're you're carding everybody you should card and if you lose your income on alcohol sales like you're going to be in a lot of trouble if you're like a package store or something along the lines of that um and i'm just wondering like was there a lot of like kind of enforcement of this kind of stuff in the i'm assuming this is the 1990s in seattle like if you went to some store where you there were some other teenagers working and you you know and they they rented all kinds of stuff and you happen to bring an adult thing from the back room like would they even care would they even care to id you like why would they probably not but i would have been mortified yeah well that's true too you know what i mean that's true like that would

look them in the eye right which was not what i was about at that age or even at this age um like Like I would have been – like if we would have had a friend who worked at some place and they could hook us up, it was weird because we were both like very intrigued by this stuff but also had a healthy amount of embarrassment. And by healthy, I mean an unhealthy amount probably. Well, I don't know. If you're 16, should – like I'm trying to figure out what being sex positive looks like in 2023. like do we want 16 is it should 16 year olds feel embarrassed about wanting to look at adult content

or not i mean legitimately asking this question i am legitimately not answering that question i have

no idea well i you know what i mean like on the one hand it's it's like we we are in a much more sex positive culture which is a good thing and people obviously should pursue whatever uh brings them happiness along with other consenting adults now it should it still be the case that 17 year olds are having we were just deeply embarrassed about anything sex related but also deeply obsessed with it is is what i'm saying and i'm wondering if now we live in a world where like our parents in the interest of like not making sex a taboo or weird thing kind of like you know do do parents i wonder if parents approach it differently in 2023 i mean i definitely think

You mentioned shame. I think almost anybody would say like, yeah, we shouldn't be teaching our kids shame or instilling shame in children. So obviously that.

In a certain way, that's that's obvious. But no, I don't have kids. I don't know what it's like to have kind of like a conversations about them so that I grew up. You know, I am the the ball of anxiety that I am. And with, you know, whatever, whatever my hang ups might be. And that comes from growing up.

Yours appears to be having your friend tell a story very slowly about adult video.

That seems to be your love the going through the deli. like there's something so old school about that yeah yeah it's sort of somewhere between good fellas but also like um i don't know like teenage mutant ninja turtles remember there's a whole like there's a whole underground palace that teens ran in teenage turtle totally like i don't know like this this underground was i i promise you i was not trying to whatever um but uh yeah no i do think that like i grew up in a very restrictive household and that led to me growing up to be a certain kind of adult who could probably have some healthier issues with things certainly like it was very repressive and so that's i wouldn't i wouldn't you know teach your kids the the same things maybe that i was taught or in the manner that i was taught them i learned them on the hard streets of valley city ohio um and that's the frog jump capital of the nation not the world brings us back by the way to michigan yeah jay frog because the story of michigan jay frog is

actually kind of dark andrew um this is from 99.1 wfmk.com michigan's hard rocks i don't know what radio station it is but it is a radio station website 99.1 wfmk well we know that it's east of the mississippi right because it's a w w yeah um uh for being such an iconic looney tunes character michigan jay frog only starred in two official cartoon shorts uh one called one froggy evening And another called Another Froggy Evening Which was 1995 The original 1955 cartoon Storyline is about a construction worker Who finds a box hidden in the cornerstone Of a demolished 1892 building He opens it up And a frog pops out Who puts on a top hat, grabs a cane And starts singing ragtime tunes

I think that's the scene I literally just saw Because I told you it looked like a construction worker The only thing is the animation didn't look like the 50s But go ahead

Maybe that was the 1995 version One froggy evening was 1955 And then 1995 was another froggy evening Naturally The man sees this as a money making venture And attempts to present the frog To a paying public But the frog only sings to him And nobody else This is like a Twilight Zone episode Shamed and destitute The man has had enough And he puts the frog back in the box And places him in the cornerstone of a new building

He murders the frog Well, does he murder the frog, or is it like when they put Tom Cruise in that coffin in Interview with a Vampire, and he can't die, but he's in the wall?

I didn't realize you were talking about a movie. I would have fully believed this is how Tom Cruise sleeps. In that big blue building in Los Angeles? He gets buried under the cornerstone of the Scientology building every night, and that's why he is so youthful.

I see I knew that the story doesn't die from being built back into another well I don't know I mean if he was living in the cornerstone of one building and then was you know like sort of discovered by the construction worker presumably years decades later who knows maybe the frog is immortal but I mean that raises its own concerns and like I it's funny you started with some Anne Rice tape at the beginning of today's show and who knew that we'd come back to interview with a vampire literally literally the only thing I remember about watching the movie interview with a vampire is I believe it's Tom Cruise's character I couldn't I'm not even 100% sure on that but I remember some character is I guess a bad vampire that needs to be punished by other vampires and so they are immortal and they put him in a coffin and then they put the coffin in the wall and they lock it up and he just spends I believe lifetimes in their lifetimes that would be and that's not I am very claustrophobic as I said a crossword puzzle triggers my claustrophobia so that i mean that's why i don't remember anything else about that movie because that gave me such bad feelings to think about and now i have i will think about that every time i see this frog i want to mention that i guess i didn't know the thing about the the the broad sweeping plot line i wouldn't have known it was a construction worker but the reason i think of the wb frog is because genevieve when i was first dating her a very good friend of hers was dating a fella who did not seem like the most interesting fella at all and you know like if you know Genevieve she's a big personality I might be considered a kind of a bigger personality this was a crew of people that like to laugh loud love loudly and dance like everybody's watching right and then there was this one person who was like you know he was not a bad he was not a bad person but he was just dollsville like such dollsville and i remember genevieve and her friends would always say like oh well maybe he's like the wb frog like when we all go away he becomes very entertaining and he wears a top hat and nothing else around

our friend when they're alone were you ever ever able to verify that did you ever like rig up some kind of secret camera system and then leave to see if this person turned into michigan jay frog

or someone like that for his birthday i gave him a top hat and nothing else and i wanted to see if

he would take the bait he did not uh did you know that this michigan jay frog thing is actually based on real events um involving a vampire no involving a frog again still reading from 99.1 wfmk michigan's hot rock leader um the cartoon plot line mirrors an event that actually happened in texas in 1928 in the town of eastland they were tearing down the courthouse that had been built in 1897 when the workers got to the cornerstone they opened it and there was a horned toad in there still alive after 31 years encased in concrete buried under a blanket of dust he was given the name rip for rip van winkle and he soon made national news rip became so famous he was taken to washington dc to meet president calvin coolidge but i mean that's impossible right frogs

don't live that long under the best of circumstances i mean this does sound like a

stunt but i mean it got to the level of so at some point calvin coolidge was having to like meet with a horn toad who was he was being told was 31 years had been encased in cement for 31

years and lived yeah i don't know this is all new to me i can tell you this is uh blindly hitting play here this is what wf it's wfmk right lansing wfmk lansing michigan's number one leader in

classical music i don't know i'm just trying to cover all of our genres this is what's playing

on it right now i can't play too much commercial maybe it's a commercial how are they allowed to

do this or maybe not maybe this is just a cover of that song isn't this uh black eyed peas is this not them um this is this is uh jason derillo dynamite oh it's not black eyed peas i always get those songs confused but i was i guess i never i never knew the lyrics i thought that that was like a local like a burlington coat factory was doing their version of the jason derillo song but so as to sell coats it just sounded so hokey yeah i heard something in there about brands or i thought yeah that's why i'm wearing my favorite pants or something i was like well

this is going to be an ad for tj maxx anyway that's what's going on at wfmk in lansing michigan

lansing michigan were you guessing on michigan or did you know it was michigan i was guessing on michigan because the headline is why michigan jay frog how michigan jay frog got his name michigan and so i just thought well this is probably a michigan radio station now lansing michigan looms very large in my mind because it was i believe the location of wrestlemania 3 which was in the pontiac silver dome in lansing michigan so as a kid i remember just thinking someday i am going to get to lansing michigan because that sounds like the coolest place on earth because it's where the pontiac silver dome is where wrestlemania 3 occurred how do you get

to lansing practice practice practice let me ask you um let me ask you one question because we've got to go to break now um or shortly certainly and i don't want to extend this but let me just ask you one question to close this out what is your podcast about the pontiac silver dome we kept it's a pontiac silver dome based podcast andrew that was the slipperiest kind of like we just covered so much ground without any structure i don't even know what we just talked about

Also, I don't think that's... The Pontiac Silverdome is in Pontiac, Michigan Why did I think it was in Lansing? Is it near Lansing? I don't know, we'll figure it out on the other side of the break Hello and welcome to Top Story I don't see any evidence that the Pontiac Silverdome is anywhere near Lansing, Michigan I think I just...

It no longer exists, right? The Silverdome is gone but where's pontiac michigan nowhere show me on the mitten right is it is it a flat are they

flatlanders are they youpers um let's if we can andrew talk a little bit about this taco time article

that is just absolutely captivating the imaginations of the TBTL listeners, at least the TBTL listeners from the Northwest. This was a piece in Seattle Met Magazine written by a person whose name is going to appear when I open the file, or maybe not because of how I saved this. Is it like Alicia Vermillion, maybe? Is that the name of the person?

Let me get this open. I had it open before.

Can I take this to the least interesting part of it? I save this as a PDF. When I'm doing the show on the road or here, I don't have my little printer, Andrew. This is why we print things because what I will do is I will save the articles I'm going to be referring to as PDFs so that they don't use internet capacity. Just slow it down, Luke.

Don't tell this part too quickly. Slow it down.

so uh but somehow in the saving of this seattle met article as a pdf it completely gets rid of the byline which was a terrible shame because it's alicia vermilion it is yes this is a really good piece a really well written piece so i want to make sure the the right person is getting credit uh it's called washington's great taco time divide oddly enough andrew my dad sent me

this article when i was in new york we get this our friend phyllis sent this to us like i would it's been a long time since i've had so many people send a single article into us right i

don't know if my dad has a google alert for taco time related news like i don't understand how he saw this because he is you know mostly just well while i've been i was traveling briefly for work He was just in here watching his, you know, stolen BBC content. But anyway, he sent it to me. It is it's a really great article about I mean, it's about a lot of things. It's about the difference between Taco Time Northwest, which if you live in Washington state, you know, those are the Taco Times that people are pretty familiar with. They have a kind of certain sort of menu and this what they call ranch, which is really kind of like a sour cream type of deal. And then there's something that's just called Taco Time One Word, and that's a different company And they have those in Oregon There's actually one in Portland that I've been to before They're spread out throughout the West And they have Some similarities to Taco Time Northwest But they have also some Differences, and if you're like a Taco Time Obsessive, like I am And someone tries to take you to one of these Taco Time One Words One of these ones that's not Taco Time NW It's one of the deepest insults that a person can you know ever uh sort of insult me with because and in fact becca and i have had we have i'm very fortunate that we have not had a lot of arguments in our relationship but she is very firm in her assertion that the taco time in eugene oregon is like the taco time that i like to go to the closest one the closest real taco time to me is in kelso washington so if you're in portland and you need to get to a real taco time about 40 minutes north is kelso and that's where there's a taco time but becca's like well they have one in eugene it's taco time it's the same i'm like it is not the same i've been on the website of the taco time in eugene to try to refute this it's a big deal to me the difference between the the local taco times the washington ones and the ones that are you know out there in the wilderness as it were and so that's one of

the big things about this article can i ask you about things i haven't read this whole thing but i read parts of it and again a lot there's a lot of discussion about it but like it is it true that they they were born out of the same company and then split at some point and in fact were founded

in eugene ironically but what happened was you had you had two people who sort of owned this like i think it was like a hamburger stand and a taco restaurant and then the taco restaurant taco time was growing and then one of the guys just wanted to franchise just wanted to like get as many people you know running these taco times as many locations as possible and the other guy at least by the telling of this article by alicia vermilion the other guy was really into this kind of like really making good quality food that was freshly prepared each day and didn't want to just like let anyone hang a taco time sign and start selling like it sounds like the guy that eventually led to taco time northwest was a little bit more obsessed with the process and the quality of the product so they split up and the guy who just wanted to have lots of restaurants went off and did this the other taco time and the taco time and w was was this other guy so they they did come from the same origin but then they sort of diverged um the other thing that uh it gets into the article first of all or is the level of prep which i you think i would know this because my obsession with taco time started because my dad painted their menu signs and he didn't even really paint them he would print out vinyl um letters and would like make these very elaborate like menu boards for them out of like vinyl letters that me and my sisters would help him with we called it weeding so you'd have this big sheet of vinyl that had been cut by this computer then you had to pull off all the stuff that wasn't the letter and you also had to pull out the middle of like the a's so like casita burrito it was a big one for us a lot of a's and casita burrito um and the o also you had to and the b god taking me back anyway my dad did the signs for taco time and so sometimes in the summer i would go with him and you'd be there before the store opened and you you think i would have observed all of this prep but this article goes into great detail about how involved the prep at a taco time is so like they they don't buy tortilla chips they literally like fry up um uh they fry up what's the word i'm looking for tortillas and uh and then they cut them into chips they they like you get the hot sauce uh in a little kind of like plastic container that has a lid on it someone has to actually scoop the hot sauce into those containers and close the lids like thousands of these a day um they they boil all of their own beans like they really make all this stuff pretty much from scratch which is kind of amazing um so that was kind of cool to read about the process it makes sense because the food taste really good to me and it would make sense that it was because there's a lot of like you know tender loving care going into it but really what I took away from the article was if you grew up in the northwest and you went to taco time like I did it's a big deal to you and if you move to the northwest from somewhere else and your friends like you gotta go to taco time and you had it

it's probably just like fine like I don't think there are very many people who move to the northwest in adulthood and become obsessed with taco time it's the kind of thing that has to get its hooks into you after a soccer game when you're 11 um would you how would you describe

your relationship with taco time i will answer your question but i have one more question for you first um and it's part of this though because you have this scenario that you're setting up right now you're somebody who grew up with this brand and this franchise here um and it's very close to your heart uh i grew up elsewhere where there were no taco times so i never even heard of taco time and didn't have a different version of taco time growing up um but then is there a third category of people who move here having had taco time in other parts of the country and not realizing that they are two different products essentially um well that's not specifically

addressed in this article but i'm sure it sort of happens um and again for somebody like becca she just doesn't taco time takes up zero percent of her brain it takes about 80 of my brain so when i'm talking to somebody who's like oh yeah we have a taco time in portland i'm like you don't have i mean yes there's a place that's called taco time but you don't get it so i i feel like people my thought is if you grew up with one of these i'll just call it what they are bastard taco time if you grew up with a bastard taco time i bet you you're not as obsessed because it's just like it's just another place it's like taco john's or del taco or you know it's just like a place that you could go and get some fast food in the drive-thru and go eat it and you're fine like that's the level that it the other ones rise to the taco time nw it's a whole thing with the ranch it's a whole thing with the hot sauce it's a whole like the the so-called mexi fries which i believe they've now changed the name that's a big part of this article as well um i forget what they're calling them now but they took mexi out and that was something that a lot of people were kind of freaking out about because you know they like to call them mexi fries but the taco time people And I think wisely, we're like, yeah, let's not have Mexi on something if we don't have to, which I think is a reasonable position. I'm scrolling through the article trying to get to what they're calling them now. I think they call them tater fries or something.

Yeah, you know, our friend Annie at American Public Media, who we work with, sent me this as well. And we were having a conversation about it. And I she because she wanted to know, too, like, what is my what is my relationship to Taco Time as somebody who did not grow up here? And to answer that question, by the way, it's exactly as you describe it. Like, I when I found out that Mexi fries were just tater tots, it's like, well, that's I like tater tots. But I remember I was in the backseat of your car. I was in the backseat of your car. We were heading to, it was like you, me, Carrie, and Rudy were heading to-

Were we going to Chateau Saint-Michel for something?

No, I think we were heading down to that pumpkin farm where we did the summer picnic that year.

Oh, yeah, so it was a picnic thing.

Yes, and it was the TBTL summer picnic, and I don't know that that was the first time. I think I had stopped into that Wallingford taco time once before, but- Which I call biodome. Much like this article, and you say, like, it didn't strike me as any different than a taco del mar. It was just like serviceable. It was fine. And keep in mind, I'm not somebody who goes in. I don't eat ranch. or whatever the sour cream stuff is or whatever you said it was. Like that doesn't hold any interest in me. So yeah, like I remember being in the back of your car and you're like, try the Mexi fries. And of course I'd heard of these at this point. I was astounded that they were just tater tots. And again, I like tater tots. And I think they're like sprinkled with a little bit of like, just a little bit. It's almost like Cajun seasoning, I think. But I guess Mexican seasoning, I don't know. But it's like, I like tater tots. I like that they're spicy. I like that you can get them in a fast food drive-through. But like, I was just astounded that this thing that was like this is all the Mexi fryer tater tots like, yeah, and so and I'm I'll be honest, I'm not trying to dig in here like I'm I'm fine with it. And I was I was asking myself over the past 24 hours as this article was kind of circulating, I was like, is it just because it's also not a type of food? It's not a cuisine that I'm super into because a lot of, you know, Mexican food, whether it's more authentic or if it's fast food or what have you, it's going to have a lot of sour cream. It's going to have a lot of cheese. It's going to have these dairy aspects of it that I don't get excited about. But the truth is, like, there is a taco or like a burrito truck that I'm blanking on the name of, even though I've I went to it like 100 times during the pandemic. Taco Bravo. No, although I do love that place on Capitol Hill as well. there are places that i get really excited el cameo and i believe is what i just had to relax my brain for a second like i just had one of those the other day and like i do like put those on a huge pedestal so i guess it's not the cuisine doesn't get to me it's just like taco time i just never kind of i never got there i guess with that brand i don't know why it was the case that

i hadn't thought about this till i read this article but yes being obsessed with taco time like i am um i when you know when people would come to seattle i would be like you we got to go to taco time and i never got the response that i was expecting and it's like well of course i didn't because if you grew up with it you it's a big deal and if you didn't grow up with it it's fine it's just you know it's just food it's whatever and i it the the scales fell from my eyes when i read this article because i was like oh of course yeah that's why that's why i was getting that response or lack of response um the other thing too about this article that i like is it actually features a sign that my dad made like there's this little like photo there's a kind of like a some photos of the founders and their sons and the owners and there's one picture of uh this guy frank tonkin i think is his name standing in front of the regional offices and it says in gold letters taco time regional offices and as soon as i saw that i was like my dad definitely made those because you know i used to just look like his style of work and i sent him the picture he had sent me the article but he hadn't noticed that his work was actually made its way into seattle magazine i was like dad did you do those he was like oh yeah absolutely in like 1984 or something so i feel a strong personal connection actually you know um i remember going to moses lake washington with my dad to do he was doing some taco time work and then this the i think it was this guy frank tonkin the founder took us out on moses lake with in his boat and we went fishing when i was like 10 or something so i feel i feel deeply connected to uh this restaurant and to this whole thing um but the big question is will i be invited on the taco time podcast at some point Because the other thing that they talk about in this article is that there's an entire podcast dedicated to Taco Time just started by some fans, some guys who I think do like a sports podcast as well. And then they just decided to spin it off and talk about Taco Time. And as I was reading it, I thought I have one mission in life, and that is to get invited onto the Taco Time podcast because it takes up a lot. I mean, I'm going to go to Taco Time after this, Andrew. I'm down here in southern Washington. I'm going up to Kelso and getting me some taco time for lunch today.

By the way, tater fries, Annie, I invoked the name Annie before, and we were talking about this, and she says they're called tater fries now, unless she's spoofing, and she's a bit of a spoof. No, I think they're called tater fries. Yeah, so that's what they're called now, just to close the loop on that. Yeah, no, I'm, you know, as we sit here and talk about tater tots and what have you, I'm getting more and more hungry, and I actually even just thought, ooh, maybe I should give this another shot today. But honestly, it just doesn't sound. That's the other thing about tater tots. I love tater tots, but I don't want that. It doesn't seem like a good accompaniment to a burrito or a taco to me like that. That doesn't sound good to me either. Like it just does. I don't know. I can't. Maybe someday I'll be with you and a group of folks who want to do a special tater, a special tater tot run, special taco time run. And I can hang like I'm fine. I'm not avoiding the place. But it's even now, as hungry as I am, as we talk about this, I don't think I'll probably end up there for lunch.

Well, the big part of it, I think, for you is.

A, you didn't grow up in the Northwest, and B, you don't like, as you mentioned, you're not a big sour cream guy, and this so-called ranch that they have is totally weird because it's like sour cream with some other flavors in it. I don't know why it's called ranch. It does not taste like Hidden Valley Ranch or whatever, but it's its own weird substance, and if you like that kind of stuff, as I do, I would bathe in it if I could. I would literally fill up a swimming pool, dive in, and just eat my way to the bottom of the pool of ranch. But if you don't like that, then it's like that's one of the main sort of like attributes of taco time. So if you're not into that kind of thing, it's not going to really be the same for you. I love that stuff. I get a side of ranch with everything. I have them add ranch to stuff. So this is my order. No one asked, but I'll just – people were on Instagram like listing their, you know, here's where my go-tos are. I get the um the the pinto bean or the refried bean soft taco but I say light on the pinto beans because sometimes it's like too much pinto bean for me I go light on the pinto beans and I go extra ranch and then I get a cherry coke zero and I get the tater fries and then I get a side of ranch for the tater fries and I sit in the parking lot and I I eat my little taco time meal and I that's as blissed out as I get not since we got that pornography video out of that one store in Pike Place Market have I felt the kind of joy that I feel sitting in my car eating taco time

I was going to ask you this before and then I felt like it was going to lead to a conversation I didn't want to have but it's you've brought it up again and like I can't stress enough I don't want a lot of detail in the answer to this one but did you guys watch that together or did you trade it

we did not trade it we watched it together

that seems so awkward to me That does not seem like fun

It How do I put this I'm trying to think We were watching the video And there was no other activity You passively watched the video Passively watching And the funny part was Peter's dad is part of this I guess you would call it Sort of spiritual practice Or religious kind of world Called Meher Baba And Meher Baba was this guy who, you know, was I think from like either India or Pakistan and was, you know, sort of said that he was an incarnation of God, like he was an avatar of God. And he had all these spiritual teachings and the people who follow him are called Baba lovers. And they used to have these meetings at their house. And because they would watch these videos of like Meher Baba or other Baba lovers, like they used to have like a Bible study. They had this really big, nice TV that was like in the corner behind this like Japanese fan and I remember us like getting out the Meher Baba TV when his parents were gone so we could watch this video like in the living room which is really rolling

the dice if you think about it yeah and also in the sitcom of your life of course you forget to take the VHS tape out of this VCR until the next time they have one of their gatherings

Oh, my God. In all these years, I'd never even considered that. But think about the horror of those Baba lovers getting together to watch their, like, inspirational video at its three musket.

like i'm bleeping the name of this by the way i think people can figure it out for content yes i think i am like i and so the more you say that the more work i have um because do you know that i have to go to the the beep forest and find i have to pick off of the beep trees the perfect

beep to fit well i well that's how i punish you i say go i'm gonna beep you go pick the beep And you bring it back here. That's your kink. He's sending you out to the beep forest.

There's a right way to rock and a wrong way to roll. You can't just listen to your soul. Just remember that life is number one. You can be having so much fun. Just remember that life is much fun. You can be nothing but fun.

Now you might recall that last week we got a little tricksy with our recording schedule of TVTL and we recorded Thursday's show or Blur's Day's show on Wednesday so unfortunately a few people had sent in Blur's Day's on Thursday morning and didn't quite make it to our recording time so we need to begin today But this is great for them

Because they thought all of the birthday fun was over They were sad They were depressed They were just wandering down the street with their hands in their pockets And now a mission

Michigan J. Frog of continued birthday excitement. It just popped out of a cornerstone and is singing Happy Blur's Day to them.

I'm picturing Reese in Minnesota with both hands in the pockets, like you say, walking down the street, head bowed, kicking a can, literally kicking a can, saying, Why didn't my mom, Heidi, send me a Blur's Day message via those dummies over at TVTL? Well, she did, Reese, because Heidi in Minnesota says, I like to wish a very happy seventh Blur's Day to my son, Reese. He's getting bigger and braver all the time, and I'm so proud of him for kicking that can.

How did you know?

He used to be afraid of cans, and now he just kicks them. He hasn't seen you guys in person since he was four months old at the St. Paul American Legion show. Don't worry. He doesn't remember it either. Power out. Hey, the hell you say, Heidi? Sorry to swear in your Blurze message, Reese, but I remember that very well. Four months, a tiny, tiny little wreaths, I believe, being held by Heidi. I believe even taking part in the ceremonial letting off of TBTL balloons in the shape of a TBTL ship or something into the sky, into the night sky. Do you remember that?

I have like, no, I don't. I mean, when you're saying it, it kind of sounds like a thing that happened.

Amy Walensky, who was doing our fundraiser at the time and also was just helping with this event, had made some sort of elaborate decoration involving us, possibly on a ship. And I believe after we did a live show at the American Legion, she or some tens or somebody attached it to balloons, and we sent it sailing into the sky, which is not environmentally friendly, by the way. I distanced myself from that. That's why Amy was fired. That's why Amy is no longer with American Public Media and why I must say that this was a 10-inspired event. Anyway, and I believe Reese was there for all of that. Happy Blur's Day, Reese.

And one more that was sent last week but we didn't get to it is from Erica who says, I would like to wish myself a happy Blur's Day. As you may know, this Lunar New Year is the year of the rabbit. It's also the year of Aquarius And I recently found out in the Vietnamese calendar It's the year of the cat So this is my year I have befriended the rabbits in my yard I adore cats And I'm an Aquarius Everything is coming up This is me talking now Everything's coming up Erica Love it Happy Blur's Day Erica

Also another belated one from Amy Who says Happy Blur's Day to my incredible husband and fellow Minnesotan Chad. Amy, of course, some people might remember Amy's drumming during the TVTL talent show a few years back. The Pandrummer, I believe she called herself, the Pandrumic. After more than 33 years together, he still surprises me with his intelligence, wit, compassion, and yes, sexiness. He's totally embarrassed now. I'm excited that Chad just began seminary to become a Unitarian Universalist minister. And a sexy one at that, I'm adding. Happy Blur's Day, Chad. Wait.

Obviously, you're going to have to bleep that, right? Mm-hmm. Sure. I need you to go to the bleep forest right now, Andrew. Yes, it's my favorite place. Pick out a bleep to cover up the word sexy. Chad is sexy. We met Chad and Amy at the Minnesota State Fair. Oh, that's right. Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. I think among other places, but I 100% can verify. Chad, very sexy minister. William says happy blurs day to listener Laura I know she's had a rough day when she says I didn't even get to finish TBTL but I'm grateful to be her 11 every day aww sweet

I hope you're having a good day I hope you made it this far into the show to hear it Laura and Charlie in Edmonds Washington home to an Arby's which is being remodeled says I'd like to wish fellow 10 and partner Jose of Bellingham a happy blurs day jose i'm so glad our paths crossed at the beginning of covid and have remained close since and you're graduating college this spring cool go jose sweet lisa says happy 50th blurs

to my tbtl baby eric i'm honored to get to go on the occasional adventure with him even though our adventures seem to lead back to various eagles clubs or stupid meme exchanges could be worse Eric, congrats on the new job and the big birthday. I'm happy to know you, even though you're only marginally amusing.

I had a girlfriend once or somebody I was dating. And our, you know, as we were kind of crushing on each other, we would be complimenting each other by saying you're tolerable. That was sort of our little, a little cutesy way of saying it.

I can't believe that relationship didn't work out. Yeah, I know. Says the guy. She's still a friend. His son has had two divorces. By the way, Chad can actually do my next wedding, which is cool.

Oh, yeah, perfect. Perfect. Linder in Rhode Island says, I'd like to wish a happy Blur's Day to the cupcake mama herself, Bet, though we only met IRL once at the South of Queso show. That was in Austin, Texas. I remember meeting both of you there. I'm so glad to have her as my friendo. May all of your baked goods come out perfectly. Happy Blur's Day, Bet.

And Carolyn says, please wish my cousin and TBTL co-parent the family structures of the listeners as it relates to being TBTL listeners. I've officially lost the thread, but I love it for them. Please wish my cousin and TBTL co-parent Deborah in New Zealand a happy birthday. I hope you have a terrific day with your awesome, super funny husband and your darling girls. You are amazing in so many ways Given the time difference between us Where I live and where Debra lives Our birthdays will be on the same day So happy Blur's Day to us Oh that's cool

So technically they're on different calendar days But as the world turns They're actually going to be celebrating at the same time So happy Blur's Day to both of you Happy Blur's Day Debra and to Carolyn

Alright that is going to Do it for today's edition of the show But we will be back here tomorrow We have a friend, Andrew You and I have a friend named Nora McInerney And sometimes, and Nora and I We chat, and she Always likes to call me while we're Doing TBTL, she just called me today And I said, I can't talk right now We're doing TBTL, and she goes, do you do that Every day? And I was like, yes, you do

Oh, she's just teasing She knows we do this every day

I don't know, actually, I'm gonna talk I'm gonna give her stern talking to when I call her later But I'm like, yeah, five days a week, Monday through Friday That's when this happens. So tomorrow being Friday, we'll be doing another one of these. So please do join us for that. In the meantime, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourselves. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all. I just might have tacos tonight. It's in material. Power out.