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#3878 Pay It Sideways
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3878 Pay It Sideways

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

February 10, 2023 | 01:23:23 | Leisure, Comedy

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A $150 cup of coffee has Luke reconsidering his relationship with the beverage.  Andrew is waiting to see if the local sports station will read his text on the air. And Luke found himself in a "Pay It Backwards" situation recently in a Starbucks drive-thru.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:42 | Speaker 1:

This is outrageous. Where are the armed men who come in to take the protesters away? Where are they? This kind of behavior is never tolerated in Boracua. You shout like that, they put you in jail. Right away. No trial, no nothing. Journalists, we have a special jail for journalists. You're stealing, right to jail. You're playing music too loud, right to jail. Right away. You're driving too fast, jail. Slow, jail. You're charging too high prices for sweaters, glasses. You're right to jail. You undercook fish, believe it or not, jail. You overcook chicken, also jail. Undercook, overcook. You make an appointment with a dentist and you don't show up, believe it or not, jail right away. We have the best patients in the world because of jail.

00:00:43 - 00:01:00 | Speaker 2:

T-B-T-L. Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is? Friday, Friday, gotta get down on Friday. You're singing that wrong. How? I made it up.

00:01:00 - 00:01:02 | Speaker 4:

Have you all gone insane? This is not good.

00:01:02 - 00:01:20 | Speaker 2:

The point is, at this time of national peril, we all have to do our part. And by do, I mean don't. We all have to don't our part. I have never heard someone say so many wrong things, one after the other, consecutively, in a row. Uh-oh. He's starting that funny talk again.

00:01:20 - 00:02:23 | Speaker 4:

well all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a friday edition of tvtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live combining all the digital just let me drink my name is luke burbank i am your host oh la la coming to you once again from the hollywood broadcast center right here in portland oregon where oh ma pa it's just beautiful Well, you know, I actually I don't know if it's just beautiful on this Friday because we're recording this on Thursday when it is still unbelievably gorgeous here in Portland. But of course, anything could be happening on Friday as this is being released to the world. It's sort of history. The future is a mystery. So however the weather is looking as this is hitting your podcatcher, I hope it's treating you OK. We've got a more than OK edition of the program on this Friday. It's episode 3,878 in a collector's series.

00:02:23 - 00:02:24 | Speaker 3:

Let the fun begin.

00:02:25 - 00:03:53 | Speaker 4:

Of course, Portland is known for its high-end coffee. It tastes like soot and hot water. I'm hooked. What about coffee that is so high-end it is $150 a cup? Sounds expensive. We will explain what's going on with that. Try to get to that yesterday. Ran out of time, but we will prioritize it today. Probably. Also, actors in Hollywood are being assisted by A.I. Folks like Harrison Ford, Tom Cruise and the like, these bankable A-list but now older Hollywood types are getting A.I. help to make their faces look younger. Look at this face. What do you see? But there's something slightly uncanny about it sometimes that I hadn't actually thought of until I looked at this article in The Guardian, which we will also talk about today on the program. We've also got an update on the gurgling water situation in Andrew's kitchen. Didn't know you like to get wet, though. We've got actual audio evidence of what it sounds like when his cat water fountain is running low on water and the sound is driving him absolutely bananas. I'll tell you what's driving the general public bananas. Andrew's cool new catchphrase. Lots of luck in your senior year. You can hear how much people are just eating it up and loving it He is the longest running Cobra of the show Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now Good morning, my friend

00:03:53 - 00:04:53 | Speaker 3:

Good morning, Luke I don't usually come into the show with this kind of distracted attitude Or at least I try not to But I gotta say, TBTail is getting in my way a little bit this morning Because there's something I should be monitoring or at least something I want to be monitoring because, you see, Luke, today I became a different kind of person. I did something that puts me in a different category. I am now apparently the kind of person who texts in to local sports radio shows. And right now I have the sports radio show in question going on in the background because I'm waiting to see if they will read my text. They will not. The conversation has passed by more than 40 minutes at this point, and there's no way they're going back to it. But I'm still very curious to know if they will read my text from the God who sponsors it. The what do you always say? The the Flamin' Hot Cheetos Mountain Dew.

00:04:53 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 4:

I wonder if this is local sports talk in Seattle, right? Yeah, it's probably the state roofing text line or something.

00:05:00 - 00:05:09 | Speaker 1:

Something like that. And that was sort of the problem. They were talking about something I wanted to weigh in on, but I've never texted into the station before, so I had to take the time to...

00:05:09 - 00:05:12 | Speaker 2:

Is it possible it's the priceless granite? That would be nice.

00:05:15 - 00:05:18 | Speaker 1:

I don't think it is. Did I just hear my voice on that tape?

00:05:18 - 00:05:23 | Speaker 2:

Sorry, sorry, sorry. That was just my audio playing escapades.

00:05:23 - 00:05:27 | Speaker 1:

Excuse me, let alone the listeners. But yeah, so anyway, I don't think they're going to...

00:05:27 - 00:05:38 | Speaker 2:

Are you listening to it? How would you know if they were referencing your text or not? That would mean you're actually trying to, from an audio standpoint, monitor the local sports talk station?

00:05:38 - 00:05:52 | Speaker 1:

Well, that's exactly, yeah, exactly what I was doing. I mean, let's just stop this right now. Let's go to see what Bump and Stacey are talking about here. While that guy gets ready to take over if Gino falters. Okay, so it sounds like—

00:05:52 - 00:05:55 | Speaker 2:

Keyshawn says, I'm not saying that Gino has to be your long-term answer.

00:05:55 - 00:05:59 | Speaker 1:

So that was a piece of – they're cutting up an interview they just did in the last hour.

00:05:59 - 00:05:59 | Speaker 2:

No, they're reading text.

00:06:01 - 00:06:06 | Speaker 3:

You know what he is? My coach used to say, he's just more better than you.

00:06:07 - 00:07:03 | Speaker 1:

No, they just did an interview with Keyshawn Williams, and then they chopped it up there, and they were just playing a little bit of that, and they're still discussing it. Because the only thing – I mean, for the past, Luke, I'm going to say three and a half weeks, mostly. i mean 99 of the local sports conversation 99.9 has been do we pay geno smith to come back how much do we pay him what's the you know whatever will he make more if we let him walk will we regret that like that's the only thing going on because it's basketball season seattle doesn't have a basketball team as everybody well knows at this point um but then today and i'll try not to get too much in the weeds but i want to tell you what finally prompted me to write in because it's uncharacteristic of me um is it the sunset chevrolet text line no donkeys no horses no cow whatever you've got that doesn't eat in low overhead sumner no low overhead sumner i remember asking you about that one time i was like do they literally like what does that mean like that they

00:07:03 - 00:07:07 | Speaker 2:

it's just weird it wasn't that long ago i think about a month ago we had that no it was you and

00:07:07 - 00:07:13 | Speaker 1:

i were driving in the van on our on our road trip when i asked we also had that conversation on this

00:07:13 - 00:07:15 | Speaker 2:

Very program within the last two months

00:07:15 - 00:07:24 | Speaker 1:

Maybe I reset up The fact that I had to ask you about that but I remember driving With you through like a redwood forest In a van that would soon break down By the trees of mystery

00:07:24 - 00:07:46 | Speaker 2:

Low overhead summoner Now let me ask you one quick thing Because I know you're about to reveal what it was that had you So sort of worked up You wanted to text would you like to text Me and I can read it on the air so you At least have some satisfaction No it's not the same I guess you feel like Bump and Stacey are more fun. Are those your new fun friends that you want to interact with?

00:07:46 - 00:08:22 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, I mean, I can say whatever I want on this show, but, you know. No, the reason I – so all of the conversation recently has been about, you know, this Geno Smith, our quarterback. Do we bring him back? Blah, blah, blah. But I turned on the radio. I didn't even hear the beginning of this conversation, but they were talking a little bit about the Mariners. And they played a little clip of tape of the Mariners manager, GM rather, I should say, Jerry DiPoto. And he was saying something about how one of our pitchers, well, I guess he's not our ace anymore, but one of our pitchers, Robbie Ray, has a toughness about him. And he's tough. And they went into this.

00:08:23 - 00:08:25 | Speaker 2:

It's tough when he serves up a meatball.

00:08:25 - 00:08:25 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly.

00:08:26 - 00:08:31 | Speaker 2:

That's a completely avoidable disaster against Houston in the bottom of the ninth.

00:08:31 - 00:08:46 | Speaker 1:

Even before he absolutely destroyed us coming out of the bullpen in that game against Houston. I wonder if we have any listeners named Sean who are watching that game. anyway Sean was very apologetic I'm team Sean that's how hard you went on Sean no Sean's always

00:08:46 - 00:08:51 | Speaker 2:

been the best he's you've turned me into an Astros fan do you realize what you've done no no based on

00:08:51 - 00:09:59 | Speaker 1:

how hard you came down on listener Sean not even Sean could could do that but anyway Robbie Ray even before he absolutely just stomped on our chests during the playoffs um even during the regular season he was sort of a mixed bag I was not a huge fan of his although he had some really good outings but the question that they had that was very brief but broadly speaking was like that's a weird way to describe a pitcher toughness you can think about that in football you can think about that in various positions catchers maybe um but like can a pitcher be tough and they just spent i don't know two let's say 20 seconds speculating on what that could mean and i did have a very distinct memory and i'm not jumping to the defense of jerry depoto's word choice or Robbie Ray at all but I did remember very early in the season and you might remember this too we were excited it might have been Robbie Ray's very first start for us or second and the team was out in in Chicago right it was a White Sox game and uh it was like they should have called the game it was a downpour and they were like cleaning up the field pretty they were cleaning up the field better.

00:10:00 - 00:11:20 | Speaker 2:

When it was when it would behoove the White Sox, but they were making us pitch in the rain. And I just remember people talking about like, listen, we just got this guy, Robbie Ray. He's out on that mound. It's literally dangerous for him to be contorting his body the way he has to in order to pitch on a soggy mound. And I remember everybody just saying, like, he just stayed out there and like he just did his job. He didn't complain about it. I think he went way more innings than we thought. And I just had this moment where I was like, that's a kind of toughness. I have something that I can add to this conversation. So all I texted was and I don't have it directly in front of me, but it was like one sentence. Didn't Robbie show toughness in that in that really rainy Red Sox game last April or something like that? But in the time it took me to look up what the text line number was and to confirm that it was indeed a Chicago game, which I did have to do. I you know, I and with the seven second delay, they were already moved on by the time they probably got that text message. I heard them read two other quick text messages on that topic, but I was too late. I was just hitting send as they were reading them. And now I'm sort of like, well, what if that conversation comes back up? What if they read my text? And I realized that there's no better way to get a listener glued to a radio show than for that listener to send in a text and then wait to see if it gets read on the air.

00:11:21 - 00:11:45 | Speaker 1:

How do you think it is that we have any listeners to this show? It's true. It's send in your music for your weekend, send in your thoughts on a thing that we messed up that you'd like to correct us on, such as the origins of that Nico song, which is actually Jackson Brown. People are very engaged with this show just because they're wondering if we got the message and if we will address it on air.

00:11:45 - 00:12:14 | Speaker 2:

Which reminds me, I just went through a whole bunch of emails from folks who I have not addressed their various items yet, but we will hopefully get to that in coming days. We only really have, because we do music for your weekend on Fridays, which we'll be doing in a little bit, and Blursdays on Thursday, we only have really a three-day window, Monday through Wednesday, of doing emails and voicemails, and so, you know, we aren't able to, like, share everything, so, you know, that's the reality of the job, I guess.

00:12:14 - 00:14:53 | Speaker 1:

The other thing that I think is interesting about the way – how do I put this? Because obviously that local sports show, the people that love it really love it. And again, I'm a fan of Michael Bumpus and Stacey Rost. But it's an achievable goal. If you or I decided we want to become like a regular caller to one of those programs, to that program, it would be very achievable. Like we could get on the air because you and I have both done local talk radio. And I've even done a little bit of like interned in sports radio. it's one of those things where it's not like the lines are full from like you know the show starts and the phone lines are jammed and then it's just like are we going to even be able to get to all these people before the end of the program you got to kind of work the phones you got to give the number you've got to sometimes you know if you've got a call holding and you're going into a break but you know you really need the call on the other side of the break you could be like all right if you're on hold stick around because we're going to get to this uh you know is robbie ray tough Conversation on the other side of this Sunset Chevrolet traffic Break sprints Arbogast How's it looking out there like you just do all this Kind of stuff to Basically give the appearance that there's a lot of Calls and a lot of interest even on the days when there's not You and I could very could call into any Like here in Portland there's some station that I sometimes catch now because I started Listening when I was listening to the AFC Or excuse me yeah the AFC championship Game and now my my radio's just Been on it and yet Even though that is not This is where I'm trying to be careful I don't want to sound like I'm being dismissive Of what some of our colleagues Or at least our other radio professionals are doing But like let me put it this way I work on some productions That are I would say probably More widely sort of engaged with I.e. the CBS stuff or wait wait Or whatever even live wire I guess But I'd be more geeked to be On a local sports call in show I would be more nervous to be like Luke's on the air And Portland And then I'm like, okay, here's what I want to say about Damian Lillard The last three games My being a caller on a sports radio show Or a texter even And having them read my text Would geek me up more Than having my face On CBS Sunday morning That 8 million people will see Just like I bet that you having your text read On Stacy and Bumpus Or whatever it's called Would make you so much more excited Than this show, which we actually recently were going through some of the data actually reaches a lot of people i would say probably the aq or you know the aqh on this show is not far far off of bump and stacy and yet there's something about getting on a local particularly sports radio show that just shoots some adrenaline into my brain unlike anything else

00:14:53 - 00:15:47 | Speaker 2:

well also keep in mind that even if they read my text literally nobody would know it was my text except for me i didn't sign it i didn't say and in fact my phone doesn't say like andrew in north seattle no in fact you know what they'll sometimes do is they'll just give the area code oh you know this the the the 206 or the what's what's the one on the east side i might not 425 the 425 yeah like for me i still have a new hampshire area code so they wouldn't be like hey coming in from the 603 um by the way new hampshire one of the only states that i believe this is still true of they only have one area code for the whole stage which I think is pretty cool but yeah it would just be secretly me just being like a silent little fist bump in my kitchen that one of them would have read my be like oh yeah that was a tough game him on the mound and you know just to have a little moment of reflection about that but it did not get read and so I will be writing some emails

00:15:47 - 00:15:49 | Speaker 1:

do you know though because it could have been when we

00:15:49 - 00:15:57 | Speaker 2:

were talking well that's I mean I just don't about five of those things that were not great drafts but as of late three out of four

00:15:57 - 00:16:03 | Speaker 1:

they've done okay well and we've also i saw a couple people saying we're like being really

00:16:03 - 00:16:17 | Speaker 2:

negative we've all said the seahawks are closer to a super bowl see they're on the seahawks talk um they're just they're not going back to whether or not robbie ray is tough like it was such a short little conversation they're just not going back to it i do by the way think that toughness

00:16:17 - 00:16:33 | Speaker 1:

is absolutely an an apropos term for a major league baseball pitcher because there's a huge amount of mental toughness that you need not that not to descend into sports talk although if you have any thoughts and you'd like to text them to me and just send them to them oh you know

00:16:33 - 00:16:55 | Speaker 2:

what it is send them to the mac and jack text line at seattlesports710.com oh my god i'm sure that now that now that i relax my brain just like i couldn't think of the 425 before it's just like when i was on the spot i couldn't think of it but when my brain relaxes of course i'd listen to these guys like i could probably you wake me up in the middle of the night i could probably recite a million things about the sponsorships on the station.

00:16:55 - 00:17:08 | Speaker 1:

And by the way, if you want to hit us up on the broadcast coffee text line, it's 414-TBTL, 414-8285. But to the question of, this is me trying to be in my sports guy persona voice thingy.

00:17:08 - 00:17:12 | Speaker 2:

I love that. I also love just giving a little taste of that. Barry, you want more of that?

00:17:12 - 00:17:16 | Speaker 1:

Yeah. Let's talk. That's our new

00:17:16 - 00:17:19 | Speaker 2:

business model. We just give it free for one.

00:17:19 - 00:19:34 | Speaker 1:

we're talking taco time on the taco time text line 414 tbtl 414 8285 um but a shout out to our colleague annie who said yes uh if you think i'm she says you bet your burrito i'm trying to see if we can hook something up with taco time yeah good thinking annie anyway the my point is just that i do think toughness is very much an a necessary attribute of being a major league baseball pitcher or reliever because the thing that like a normal person like me or you can't usually wrap our mind around is that it is a it's an absolutely mental game up there between the pitcher and the hitter like the toughness well first of all there's famously like the footage of like kurt shilling who history has not really looked upon favorably for takes and you know fleecing the state of new jersey for a video game company that never materialized but he of course had the bloody sock game right where his he had had some surgery that had come on unattached or unsutured and he was bleeding into his sock but he's still pitching there's like the physical toughness but there's the mental toughness of i know the pitch that i want to throw to this person but do they know the pitch that i'm going to throw and are they going to guess it's one of these like you you know that i know that you know that i know that you know that i know that this is a place where i usually throw a change up and this are that you hear the announcers talk a lot about a pitcher not giving in like he's not going to give in and throw the fastball and there's another breaking ball his fourth in a row he just is refusing to give in it's there is this level of skill involved with the hitting of that baseball and the throwing of that baseball that so exceeds what my small brain can comprehend that i do think there is a mental toughness aspect in the way there's a mental toughness in poker not to take us back to gamble town but like you know you're at the river as the poker player which means you're at the last thing that's going to happen and you know that you don't actually have the cards that are going to win but if you're mentally tough enough you may have the uh um you know the the toughness to put even more of your chips into the pot hoping that it scares the other person off even though you know that you don't really have the cards to back it up so i definitely think that uh that toughness is an accurate

00:19:34 - 00:20:47 | Speaker 2:

description of of what you need in a picture and also though but then assuming that their toughness is part of the job then it because of course i mean that is a literally a tough job like it it is tough what you have to put your body through and all these things but also if you agree that there is some toughness there then you can talk about well which are the pictures that show toughness and as part of their characteristic and robbie ray is a very hard throw. pitcher um who also like kind of did like you know as they um should have mentioned on 710 he made his way through that like those atrocious conditions in that game there was a toughness there and even though I can't think of any really good examples right now like you might not say like Marco Gonzalez like he's not like toughness might not be a trademark there although shit now I'm just getting into it his ability I mean he's a soft throwing lefty but he also can really eat up innings and so sometimes there's a toughness and just staying out there for seven even if you get off to a rocky start but yeah i think that you can now i sound like a parody of of maybe the job that i want to be doing but i uh i do think that like there some pitchers might bring more finesse to the job and some might bring more of a tough demeanor you didn't quite let me finish i was

00:20:47 - 00:20:59 | Speaker 1:

going to say toughness is a huge thing and being vaccinated and i would say robbie ray is really falling down on one of those two deliverables you know you saying that my heart really kind

00:20:59 - 00:21:06 | Speaker 2:

of skipped a b for something i was like oh shit like for a second i thought i really i really because we jump in on each other a lot for a second i thought i really did cut you off at

00:21:06 - 00:21:41 | Speaker 1:

no no no no i just never missed the chance to point out that the mariners pitcher robbie ray is an anti-vaxxer that coupled with him throwing a pitch that had i really been listening thankfully i was i believe in chicago monitoring it on like one of those weird like kind of just graphic representations of the game i was in an uber going to the airport luckily i had a little emotional distance from that but between not being vaccinated and then delivering what is probably the most crushing pitch in the seattle mariners franchise history uh not i'm just gonna say not a huge fan

00:21:41 - 00:22:46 | Speaker 2:

not a fan no and i i won't relive the whole thing but i know that you i don't know if you remember or not but me one time tweeting out about his vaccination status during one of his terrible outings uh led to some um led to some interesting comments on twitter from some folks who i didn't know and also revealed to me that one of my family members is essentially a twitter troll because she was going through and liking the a person who i didn't even know was on twitter that was toughness liking the comments by this this guy saying these you don't know what it's like to be these athletes they don't want to put anything in their body and i'm sick of the judgment for people who make logical decisions like study it out study it out meanwhile like i had one of our listeners who's an epidemiologist liking my tweets and then this other guy who study it out and you'll see who's just like talking about like how people who've chosen not to get vaccinated have taken it on the chin too much and I have a family member liking his comments and I was like I didn't even know this person was on Twitter and then I checked out her feed and I was like oh good lord. That does represent toughness

00:22:46 - 00:22:58 | Speaker 1:

to just wait in the weeds on Twitter not show yourself until it's time to troll someone in your own family structure that's you know that's a power move in its own in its own way. I had to then

00:22:58 - 00:23:33 | Speaker 2:

well it's been a while since I've done this and this is one good thing that I've left behind by not really being on Twitter much is there were things on that person's twitter feed that i was like whoa what is this right-wing conspiracy like i had to start googling to know what these references were for and then you find yourself in this world of ugliness i'm just remembering now that part of twitter you wake up you see something you're like well that doesn't seem right and then you look it up and then you're just like why did i see one tweet from a troll and now i've spent uh 20 minutes researching some ugly ass shit

00:23:33 - 00:24:59 | Speaker 1:

that like it's like just not in my life right now i'm so tempted much as you are tempted to go into mariner's talk i'm tempted for some reason to go into politics talk because i've just been on a real i i mean i'm always watching chris's show but you know the state of the union was this week and i've enjoyed his kind of post-morts on it and just watching it all sort of play out and when you're talking about kind of bizarre conspiracy theories and just the idea that the right the republicans appear kind of trapped you know life of pie style except the darker version with the like marjorie taylor greens of their party who don't represent probably everyone's opinion but because the margin is so narrow in the house they have a tremendous amount of power not unlike kristin cinema and joe manchin you know for the democrats and just like the idea that those republicans like what sarah huckabee sanders is rebuttal of the state of the union um which as this is airing on friday is now a few days in the rearview mirror but it's just interesting to see the republicans appear to be building their their sort of you know campaign against uh president biden for your election it seems to be at least where the republicans are at right now a lot of the ones making the most noise is in the most like weird q anon like you don't even understand Like Lauren Boebert Complaining to Twitter about being shadow banned Like it's just

00:25:00 - 00:26:10 | Speaker 2:

it's so off the rails that you do have to do it's like know your meme you're like wait okay what it's so beyond hunter biden's laptop at this point and that's what they're embracing and the thing is this is where i'm just parroting stuff that chris has said is it's not a winning strategy for them that's the funny part like it's not that the furthest rightest fringe of that party that has the most cockamamie theories that involve that that you have to that one has to look up to try to even know so wait who who did what to who what pull who paul pelosi what like that is not the majority of republicans as far as voters go like that's not even what they're into they you should just hammer joe biden on inflation like what are you doing in the like what are you doing in the like the darkest parts of 4chan conspiracy with this it's a bad strategy so it's kind of weird because it bothers me that that's been like escalated to the kind of highest echelons of republican politics but it's also kind of great if you're a democrat because it's just not it's not a winning strategy there aren't enough republicans who believe that stuff to turn out a vote enough to beat you know the democratic candidate whoever that is hopefully not joe

00:26:10 - 00:26:17 | Speaker 3:

biden but probably joe biden let's take a listen but help these men out stop hiding them that's my

00:26:17 - 00:26:22 | Speaker 1:

point the weirdest thing is always hearing um like if there ever was a really bad call in a

00:26:22 - 00:26:31 | Speaker 2:

seahawks regular season seahawks is this where i start playing c-span and then just dueling dueling content that the listeners that we want but the listeners don't i didn't well first of

00:26:31 - 00:26:35 | Speaker 3:

all i was going to like add to what you were saying but i had nothing to really add that

00:26:35 - 00:26:49 | Speaker 2:

was going to be helpful stacy joe rost's contact info from having worked there at the same time or do you have michael you probably didn't overlap with michael bumpus no maybe dirz has i mean they're both coogs maybe dirz has bumpuses no i don't but the thing is i don't need to okay first

00:26:49 - 00:29:20 | Speaker 3:

of all it's interesting the stacy situation is interesting because i've been on the radio with her before i've done pre-taped segments with her friends yeah ask her to read your text no no well here's a couple okay okay you i'm glad you brought this up because it's so clear that you don't understand what this is all about first of all i think this is interesting because i am a really big fan of hers i feel like as a i feel like she's i think i can easily say like for my taste the best host on that sports radio station and that's you know it's a male-dominated field and i just think that she does a really good job actually her bumpus and their producer all like there's just a good chemistry there and that's what i'm into for a sports show like anybody can have takes anybody can be right anybody can be wrong um but like it's about the chemistry not on this show of course someday we'll be wrong and we'll we'll blog about it um but the thing is i don't know if stacy remembers me as a human being i've had some digital correspondence with her when i was on Twitter I would a couple of times like when the show went through a transition and they brought bump on or when you know sometimes she was taken as a woman in the media she was taking in sports media she was taking a lot of trolling shit I think when she was starting out and I just thought she was so goddamn good and so every now and then not overly I'm not a creepy guy but I would just be like hey man just the show is killing it you guys sound great or whatever and she would always respond I don't know if she knows that she was responding to a guy that she had worked with a couple of times or if it was just some guy on twitter but she was very open to that i don't know like i i hear her on the radio literally every day we did a couple of two ways um you know on the radio like three or four or more years ago so i don't have i never have any expectation that somebody necessarily remembers me in a context like that having said that sure can i reach out to her directly various ways yes that's not what it means to call in or text into a radio show though i'm not trying to get their attention you think your texts are going to survive on their own merit well i didn't sign it i didn't write i mean they see some number coming in from the 603 they don't even know what the 603 is no but that's but that's the game i'm not looking to cheat here i'm not trying to be friends with bump and stacy but yes i would accept their friendship this was about me texting in on a sports radio topic and i just want yes of course that's what i wanted i wanted to hear it read without any connection to to who i am not that who i am in this case is really anybody that they may even know or remember i'm the opposite i want to put

00:29:20 - 00:29:57 | Speaker 2:

my thumb on any scale anywhere that i can get it on i want it to be more i want it to be way more back slappy i want to be like like oh burbs is on the line by the way that's my nickname when i'm on a sports radio show no one's ever called me that but i just think it would be cool all right hold on burbs is on the line burbs what do you have to say all right y'all you got you you don't think robbie ray is tough and then i just like then we chop it up and then they're just like and then i tell a couple funny stories about going to my father's place and then they're like all right holler at me that's classic burbs that's how i want the interaction to go oh down the line yeah hans moleman just anonymously submitting a tweet from new hampshire okay

00:29:57 - 00:29:59 | Speaker 3:

first of all up yours

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Nothing I said there was even accurate, by the way.

00:30:02 - 00:30:07 | Speaker 1:

What is this Hans Molman, although I will say. Quietly under the cover of night.

00:30:07 - 00:30:50 | Speaker 2:

If you guys, and I actually do not want you to watch this, Luke, but I'm telling the listeners, please sign up for the TVTL newsletter if you haven't already and watch this week's Hey Dummies video, which I recorded yesterday. I am the most Hans Molman-y. I recorded it in my dark basement. It looks like the Blair Witch Project, and I was in the middle of a task outside, So I was bundled up with a beanie and a scarf and a hoodie. I look this is literally promotion like I am going to ask you to answer three questions before I let you cross the bridge. I mean, I could not look. I always call it the Blair Walsh project. But the fact that there's already a Blair Walsh kind of ruined the joke. But it's like this grainy footage of me. But no. OK, I'm not Hans Molman.

00:30:50 - 00:31:06 | Speaker 1:

But like, no, no, I don't think you're Hans Molman. I just think you're humble. You you you don't you don't need any glory, any adulation. You would just like to know for yourself That you contributed to the conversation That's all you need You're in it for the pure love of the game But I'm not No, but I think you would be too

00:31:06 - 00:31:36 | Speaker 2:

No, no, I think you would be too Because what you just described is like When you become a regular on the show And that's appealing to me too Just in like a liking old school radio way I don't want to be this guy But here's the difference Let's say, let's leave 710 out of this Because you and I both have been in that building before But you mentioned that there's some, you know Oh, actually, let's not even go with Portland And let's go with – what was that radio station that you loved that was up in Bellingham, I want to say, or maybe Port Townsend? But there was a sports radio station that you would listen to sometimes, and it was pretty local.

00:31:36 - 00:31:40 | Speaker 1:

I listened to it a lot. It was K – well, this is narrowing it down, Andrew. It was K-something.

00:31:41 - 00:32:40 | Speaker 2:

Okay, so it's this side of the country. It was K-pug. Okay, so it doesn't – oh, it really was K-pug. Okay. It really was K-pug. Okay, so you're listening to that, and you want to call in. Let's just go with the call instead of texting here. and you want to contribute to that conversation maybe eventually down the line a year into it you're a regular on the show and burbs is calling in and you're cutting it up it's like oh classic burbs he he starts talking about baseball but it always slides into the seahawks or whatever like you know whatever your character luke furback calling in but the thing is to get your start before you become kind of a regular caller on that show here's the difference is like you don't want to call k pug and get the call screener and say hey listen my name's luke burbank i actually host a radio show called live wire i really think i'd be a good caller like put me on or like hey you know me my story about gas stove you know me from cbs like i really should be on you don't want that you do want to be on the radio based on the merits of your own you're right i jumped to the end i

00:32:40 - 00:32:45 | Speaker 1:

jumped to the end of the relationship right exactly you're very right about that so anyway

00:32:45 - 00:32:49 | Speaker 2:

do we think that they have said my they're in a commercial probably and i do know that i'm

00:32:49 - 00:34:09 | Speaker 1:

calling the zone with mark scolton the zone between the zone it's the zone from three to four on kpug 11 the sports leader that's something definitely calling into that today i do i'm sorry this is just oh this is only interesting to you and me and maybe like 10 listeners who are just like kind of i don't know talk radio slash sports radio dgens but i just love i love the vital service that the super the power user caller serves on those shows and the person that becomes there and you know our friend drew mcfriz aka mike frizzell r.i.p was was one of those people in fact one of the hosts i know i mentioned this before but when we went to mike's memorial in austin one of the hosts of the show that he used to call into i believe in in la when he was on the run from the fbi flew all the way out to austin to eulogize and memorialize mike but there are just those callers that always call into the same show they've got a shtick the hosts know that they're reliably good content you always and i think i love this too because i listen to so much of the howard stern show and they have their version of that you know of these callers where it's marianne and brooklyn or the king of all blacks or mark the bagger or you know ass napkin ed i was so sad when i heard ass napkin ed was taken wait hold on are you guys talking are you

00:34:09 - 00:34:13 | Speaker 2:

talking about npr or the stern show i blanked out for a second earlier i was talking about npr

00:34:13 - 00:34:38 | Speaker 1:

when i said uh when i said mark the bagger but ass napkin ed is actually stern okay yeah um but anyway i just love i don't know i love the idea of the regular caller on talk radio for some reason it just like i guess my point is more than even being a successful talk radio host i would love to just be a successful talk radio regular caller that's you know i am the exact same way speaking

00:34:38 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 2:

of uh rip boy i guess there's more and more people that we say that the older we get but you know we used to talk about john clayton who was a radio host and of course a espn analyst for years and years uh but you know i would hear him on the radio all the time on this exact sports station that we're talking about and i you know i even would kind of make fun of him on this show I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but I.

00:35:00 - 00:35:04 | Speaker 1:

was not a fan that was definitely also a steelers browns rivalry they didn't help things it didn't

00:35:04 - 00:35:57 | Speaker 2:

help but either way but i i was not a fan of his on-air product right and he had a regular weekday show but he also and the weekday shows on this station and a lot of like kind of glossier uh sports radio now is like the idea of the the phone call i think is a little provincial on a lot of to a lot of program directors ears so you don't get as much of that as you used to in like the 70s and 80s um actually i shouldn't say 70s do you know that well hold on that's an aside i'll we'll talk about that later but um anyway on the weekends clayton's show was nothing like the polished like i'm not taking phone calls thing during the week it was just regular callers who i mean i can't remember any of their names sadly but like talking way too loud distorting yelling into the phone still drunk from the night before calling him but he knew he knew all of their names

00:35:57 - 00:36:02 | Speaker 1:

you know and like they would call in every week like starting at 6 a.m on a saturday or something

00:36:02 - 00:37:23 | Speaker 2:

exactly and i wouldn't know who they were like these are people that he'd been talking to for years and years who were always calling in and like you say there's probably like five people who are calling into that show but you you spread them out right and like i loved even if i didn't know what they were talking about even if it was sometimes harsh on the ear balls I loved that the roughness of just putting this this wackadoo on the air and trying to make what you can of it I don't really have dreams of being that kind of person who would call into the shows but I do have dreams of hosting that kind of a show and when I did have you know my one opportunity to host a live on the radio actual radio show there were a few times where I tried to garner up segment or garner up segment try to gin up segments where um you know i try to get people to call in and like i wanted to have a regular segment called what's your damage where people just call in about their pet peeves in life um and it was just like you know the time slot the fact that people didn't like to listen to me on the radio several things were working for the several things were working against that becoming an actual thing but that's the kind of radio that i've always wanted to do you just kind of sit back you take another phone call you work with it i don't even think i'm necessarily good at that because you got to be a little bit better on your on your toes i think but that is to me the dream of just saying okay all right it's carl

00:37:23 - 00:39:59 | Speaker 1:

in medford what do you got carl i i love that too i was gonna say i see that as my retirement but a this is probably my retirement and b i don't think that kind of radio will exist in any form or fashion 25 years from now or whenever i get done paying for this remodel because that's when i'm retiring um that's what i'm sun setting this career if if the if the wider world doesn't do it for me but like i mean honestly i just have such i just have such a soft spot and such a kind of appreciation for this idea of just hosting a talk radio show probably from my home or even better from some little podunk small radio station where you just got the same 10 people calling in i'm sure if i did this for one week i would jump off a cliff right you would but it's so it would because i had a version of this gig early in my career the first radio show i ever had was called the luke burbank show and it was on kvi on saturdays for like three hours it was like three to six on saturdays or maybe it was sunday it's one of those days and it was brutal i dreaded it it was not good there were no calls it stressed me out every because i had a regular job i was the producer of the morning show but then they would let me go on the air on saturdays and like i was it had none of the it had none of the allure that i now feel like a gig like that would have like even john clayton back in the day when he's you know it's 6 a.m he's sitting in his office in Bellevue or whatever on the blower doing this show and just trying to like get you know Michael and Issaquah to talk for three more minutes it reminds me famously of my of the story I've told so many times of like the first time I ever got to host a radio show by myself it was a Christmas Eve show it was on AM talk radio and we had no calls and this um a older woman called in and was telling a very meandering story about a Christmas ornament and it was it was just not good radio and she and this never happens she herself said well i'll let you go now and i said hold on we've got to go to a break but i want to hear a little more about this christmas ornament when we get back because that is how much i needed another person to talk to because i was dying otherwise um anyway so it's funny because i have this like huge nostalgia for that kind of radio and i feel like oh i could be so happy just like drinking my cup of coffee and and shooting the shit with this small group of people, but I've had a version of that job and it made me miserable, so I don't know. The point is, I'll never be happy. Do you like it

00:40:00 - 00:40:11 | Speaker 2:

when a radio host takes calls but is a little rough with the callers you know i don't it's hard

00:40:11 - 00:41:58 | Speaker 3:

to that's a typical question for me to answer because i don't like a host being too schmaltzy but i don't like them being unnecessarily rude i don't like the shtick being i'm just hanging up on everyone yes which is funny because howard stern who i have mentioned already probably five times in this episode and who i listen to a lot is he has the strangest relationship with taking calls that i'm kind of in awe of so the first thing is he'll take a call he'll have like bruce springsteen on the show maybe not bruce that's like the highest echelon for them but he'll have somebody very famous on the show and he'll just take a call just be like um you know tom tom you're in boston but he won't even start talking to tom he'll just bring him on you'll just hear them breathing on the line and he'll continue talking to whoever he's talking to it could be 30 minutes and tom is just there not even part of the conversation they'll say tom what up in the most random part and then tom will throw something in and then he he does this thing where he elevates callers to like becoming a part of the show like he'll let them talk over him he'll let them interrupt him he never gets mad about them interrupting him but he also has the shortest fuse with callers like it's very it's very kind of bipolar like he will let callers get away with stuff that i when i was a talk radio host would never let them get away with and then he also is so much more cranky with them than i am they'll say like what they'll be like so my mom's been dealing with cancer like okay i gotta get out of this i gotta get out of this i'm dealing with not knowing how to tell a story like it's so unpredictable and i it actually as a listener makes me i'm always like which which one which howard is going to show up for this call is he going to like give this person way more rope than they deserve or is he going to hang up on them for

00:41:58 - 00:43:22 | Speaker 2:

no discernible reason so that i mean that you know operating on that kind of a whim is is a different story but like for and again i got to go back to sports here because that's where i mostly hear it now i mean the idea of like i mean i haven't listened to a radio show that takes like political calls in forever because i'm pretty sure that those are all on the am dial and they're all very uh you know right leaning um but uh like i like i don't like it as a shtick i don't like it like i'm the asshole host and i'm gonna hang up on everybody and you better watch out before you call into my meat grinder because i'm gonna chew you up and spit yeah i hate that as a bit but i do sort of respect when i actually think it's very respectful to the caller when the host has a legit negative reaction to what they're saying and just being like no like and and pushing back a little bit like i think that it can get a little bit boring if it's all too nicety nice and i do kind of like somebody saying no no i'm gonna drill down on this here or or no you know what we're taking you off because you're off here you're you know you're off your nut on this like that doesn't make any sense by the way speaking of biden making up idioms i said off your nut the other day too is that an expression or did i make it up um i did lots of luck in your senior year like for real i say that a lot i i think i make that up well it feels like it's harlan pepper

00:43:22 - 00:43:40 | Speaker 3:

adjacent oh wait what that used to make my mom go off her nut which he doesn't say but it feels like it's in the scansion of harlan pepper i've i've heard off your rocker yeah off your rocker is actually a much more fun thing to say. You're off your rocker. Well, I don't know. What does Google say?

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Actually, Google says that it is something here. Okay. This is funny the way this is going to read it, I think.

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Off one's nut.

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Off one's nut. Out of one's mind is the description. Well, we have a new drop.

00:43:52 - 00:43:53 | Speaker 1:

Off one's nut.

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Off one's nut. The fact that it's ones is so funny.

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That's great. A little overly formal. All right. We have to take a break here because we're 45 minutes into the program. But when we come back, all we're doing is taking calls about Robbie Ray's toughness. We should do that. Hit us up on the text line, 206-414-TBTL, 206-414-8285. Back in a moment with more TBTL. Hello and welcome to Top Story. God, I wish we had the rights to bump back in with Welcome to the Jungle. Do you think that that's like a sports radio thing? They've probably updated it. I bet you it skews more hip-hop. But certainly in the, like, 90s and 2000s, that would be, like, anything that was just, like, you know, high-energy shredding or jock-jammy. It was, like, that was a big part of your show, too. You had to bring that energy. Yeah. You have to bring that energy with stories like $150 Coffee in Portland, where I saw a story. It's actually sent by an unpaid producer, but highly... Discompensated Girlfriend, Becca, who sent me a link to this KGW story, which I'm not going to play you the tape of, Andrew, or at least much of the tape, because it's hard to explain. But basically what it was was like a sit-down interview with a reporter from the station KGW, probably one of their kind of like lifestyle reporters, you know, one of the folks that does lots of stories about just kind of like curious things that people get up to in Portland. But it's not one of those things where there's like a voiceover and then audio and a voiceover. It's just these two guys sitting at a table in this coffee shop called Proud Mary Coffee here in Portland. It's owned, I believe, by a guy named Matt Lounsbury. And the reason that KGW was there was because apparently Proud Mary Coffee sells a cup of coffee that is $150 a cup. It's from Panama. Now, it was the anchor on KGW said, some of this coffee is from Panama of all places. and i was like of all places isn't that like the commercials wasn't it like i forget who it was but i feel like panama and coffee are you know are like peanut butter and jelly if you said name three places coffee is from i'd be like panama would be in the top yeah i feel i feel that way

00:46:14 - 00:46:19 | Speaker 1:

too it's like my pet peeve where people are listing things in commercials and the third one is even

00:46:19 - 00:47:00 | Speaker 3:

gyms like even gyms they even have coffee in panama andrew but uh i actually liked the vibe of this Matt Lounsbury guy, the owner of the cafe, because what he was basically saying was, and you could kind of tell that the shtick, the TV shtick was, get a load of this expensive cup of coffee, which makes sense. I get it. And by the way, Good Enterprise reporting to KGW, I didn't see this story anywhere else. I don't know how they found out about it. Maybe a producer was just having coffee and looked at the backside of the menu and was like, wow. But this coffee won Best Coffee in Panama in 2022. Apparently it's like $2,000 per pound. So they're there and they're sort of tasting it. This was the thing that this matt lounsbury guy said that i thought was kind of compelling i think unfortunately coffee

00:47:00 - 00:47:24 | Speaker 2:

is one of those things that we all drink every day but we don't think too much about where it's grown how it's produced how hard it is to produce it and also what it costs and we just go pay four or five bucks for the coffee which is fine but if we dug a little deeper and we started to kind of pay attention to some of the people that produce it and some of the effort that goes into it you realize it's worth a lot more than what gets paid for it and i was thinking about that if you said

00:47:24 - 00:48:12 | Speaker 3:

to me, if I were out to a fancy dinner and you said, this is a $150 glass of wine, I would be like, ooh, intriguing. That must be amazing. That must be like the most exotic fine wine that, you know. But if you said, here's a $150 cup of coffee, I'd be like, what the F? And I think it's because we don't, like the way that we consume wine, hopefully anyway, is different than the way we consume coffee. We all have coffee, most of us, every morning. And we have a lot of it. And it's not expensive per cup because we mass consume it and mass produce it. And so it seems weird. But I actually think if you think about it like wine, it's like it wouldn't be that weird to have a $20 glass of wine. I mean, that'd be pretty pricey, but it happens. But a $20 cup of coffee, it's like call the local news.

00:48:13 - 00:48:19 | Speaker 1:

Interesting. What do you think about that argument? I think that's interesting. I think that, I mean, $150 glass of wine is still beyond.

00:48:19 - 00:48:26 | Speaker 3:

That would be insane, but it wouldn't be as insane to me as a $150 cup of coffee, and I wonder why that is.

00:48:26 - 00:50:11 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, but so let's go with your argument of like, hey, for day-to-day wine drinking, and you can get some decent wines that are not super expensive. I actually think that's more interesting than paying for the most expensive thing. So let's just say that you can get like a $20 bottle of wine that you're going to have on most wine-drinking occasions. People are coming over, you're cooking dinner, what have you. But every now and then for a special occasion, you go to a special fancy restaurant and you get the nice bottle of wine, right? And you spend a couple hundred – you splash out, as you say, on that, and then you can break down what each glass is worth. And if you get a couple hundred dollar bottle of wine or any kind of three-figure wine, then the glass of wine will actually potentially come out to $20. I see what you mean if you wanted to have that experience with coffee. Like around the house, you have good coffee but not exorbitantly expensive coffee. And then and, you know, some people might even use Folgers or whatever. But then on a special occasion, you go out and you get a really expensive cup of coffee. I mean, I can see that being the thing, but I sort of feel like I don't know that the quote of that guy talking about how we don't appreciate, you know, what goes in the back end of it. Like, you're not wrong, but also show me the thing that we consume that isn't that way. You know what I mean? That there aren't levels of quality of things that when we're shopping for things at the grocery store that we're not appreciating, appreciator, you know, but, you know, like, I mean, can't you say that about almost any. good produce be like hey i always get my my lettuce i don't maybe really stop and think about what goes into the process of it like it just sort of sounds like yeah i but see to me

00:50:11 - 00:53:10 | Speaker 2:

it's like i think i was interrogating my own thoughts about coffee which is different than say some vegetables or whatever like you might say this is a this is organic heirloom tomato and it's going to be nine dollars you're the best tomato you've ever had in your life like there are a lot of things that if you charge me more for it i'm like well this is gonna this is because it was more artisanal there's fewer of them or there's it's a more limited supply and again i keep going back to the wine thing if you think about a grape being like a coffee bean let me put it this way i would it's not my regular thing but it would not be my head wouldn't explode if i was at a fancy dinner and i was really trying to make it special and there was a hundred dollar bottle of wine and i said okay i think i'm trying to think of the most expensive bottle of wine i've ever ordered and i feel like it was and this was like the only time i've ever done this i don't i think the number of times i've ordered a bottle of wine that's over a hundred dollars i could count on one hand like it's maybe been two or three times in my life i think one time carrie and i were out with these like really rich friends of theirs and i was a couple drinks in and i was i think i was just trying to flex or be cool and we got this really amazing bottle of wine it was like four hundred dollars and i was trying to just these people had let us stay at their house they lived in this beautiful home and we'd stayed there for a few nights because we were traveling and i think i like drunkenly was like i got this one and to this day i regret that decision but anyway my point is i don't regularly even order hundred dollar bottles of wine that seems like really a lot to me but i would order a hundred dollar bottle of wine and think well this is just going to be great wine i would never order a hundred dollar carafe of coffee it would just seem like lunacy to me and i guess it's just because of how i consume coffee versus how i consume wine and also how i think about coffee versus how i think about wine like i hadn't ever really thought that yeah this is also a thing that like if you're going to go with the rarest of the rare for this coffee and you're going to go with something that won the top award of all the coffee in panama it's two thousand dollars a pound and you taste and it has this like really amazing notes that you just can't get anywhere else i still wouldn't do it but going into it i was like this story is going to be a lot this story is going to be about get a load of this shit it's 150 cup of coffee and i left it thinking you know it's interesting because i think we just because we consume so much coffee and because there's a downward pressure on the price because you know america runs on duncan or whatever that we just we just think because you could also get wine for the price of coffee like there is wine out there that's two dollars a bottle that effectively per cup would be what you know cost you as much as a cup of coffee you could also do that but we would most of us would think that was kind of nuts most of us are not trying to drink and maybe it's the physical effect that bad wine has on you but most of us are not just like oh yeah i'm just i'm just grabbing and going with this two dollar glass of wine on my way to my kid's soccer game or whatever i'm trying to think of what a grab and go wine situation would be

00:53:10 - 00:53:22 | Speaker 2:

um but uh you know so i don't know i again i just it struck me as a different way of thinking about coffee than i had before so that was why i wanted to play it you know when we talk about wine and i

00:53:22 - 00:55:49 | Speaker 1:

know i've told this story to you before but it was i don't i don't even want to say a proud moment but like when we talk about wines you know and especially when you talk about the really really upper echelon of expensive wines and that type of thing um you can get into this conversation or or i don't know thought exercise about saying like well how much are we thinking the wine is really good because we've been told that it's really good and it's got this price point on it right like how much can the average palate tell a really good bottle of wine or glass of wine versus something less and how much is it just kind of like once you're in this community and you're all like trading notes but the one thing that felt really good to me and not just because like oh i have a taste for wine which my wine knowledge is so limited like there are a few wines that i like And I've been drinking most of my adult life and they're kind of formed from being friends with a guy who was really into wine a while back. But my education sort of stopped at basically, you know, like I like Burgundy or like Pinot Noir if it's here in the States. And so I sort of know how that stuff is supposed to taste. Right. Or a Bordeaux or something like that. And one time I grabbed a bottle of wine off of our wine rack. This is like on my birthday, like three years ago or something. and we usually have decent wine in our house but not super expensive again but $20 bottles or something like that uh but stuff that I've mostly chosen because I think we'll like it well I grabbed one that I didn't recognize and I was pouring it and I took a sip of it and it was so goddamn good Luke it was so good I don't think it was I don't think it was a french wine so it wasn't a burgundy i i think but it might have been a pinot noir from the states or something and i was like vives this is so good like i don't remember buying this or she's like oh yeah that's the wine that i bought at auction like that's a really expensive bottle of wine and she was happy that i was enjoying it it was my birthday she you know why let it sit in the rack for so long that you that it that it turns eventually anyway because we're not keeping wine in any kind of a thing and so it was not like a oh no andrew drank the good wine without permission story at all she was psyched but like it was such a good feeling to have a couple of sips of this wine and like go back to and be like jesus christ this is really good and then telling genevieve you gotta try this wine it's so good she's like oh yeah because it's really expensive it was nice to know that the tail isn't just wagging the dog on this shit and i'm also glad

00:55:49 - 00:56:40 | Speaker 2:

you got to enjoy it because for becca's birthday because she used to work at a winery and they would sometimes like you know sort of uh the bonuses and things if you sold a lot of like you know wine club memberships would actually be wine so she has this like very very good collection of like really high-end wine so we were breaking out or she was i should say breaking out a really nice bottle of something and it was totally turnt and not in a good way yes and it was a bummer because we were in this airbnb and we had it all set up and it was like we're like open the bottle it's all exciting and then it's just like i'm like i'm trying to i don't know anything about wine so i'm like maybe this is a salad dressing variety and i'm like and she's like no no no that's bad this is not good and i was just like oh no like that's the that's the most painful irony is that some wines it's like you let it age and it's really great and then it's like nope you went too far

00:56:40 - 00:56:58 | Speaker 1:

with that and also in the right conditions too like yeah we have a wine rack so the wine is yes touching the corks but like it hasn't gone through a couple of years of heat waves in Seattle and you know what I mean like if you're really keeping an expensive bottle of wine for the future there's a way to keep it and it's not in my wine rack I'll tell you that

00:56:58 - 00:57:12 | Speaker 2:

much right now speaking of coffee news we have one more quick coffee story today which is the story of a couple from Oklahoma Jesse Odell and his wife Dee Dee who went into Starbee's

00:57:12 - 00:57:23 | Speaker 1:

that's what i call starbucks now um i thought it was like starbucks and arby's get together you get a cup of coffee and a roast beef sandwich starby's hell yeah starby's we have the meats

00:57:23 - 00:58:06 | Speaker 2:

and also uh cake pops um they went into an oklahoma starbucks and they got two cups of coffee and then when um dd odell was trying to use the family credit card at a mall later it was declined because they had been charged $4,456 by the Starbucks because of what they assumed was some sort of, like, error in the system. The problem was they could not get their money back from Starbucks forever. They called the company, they said, like, 30 times. Finally, Starbucks mailed them checks in exchange, like, basically to make good on the $4,456, and the checks bounced.

00:58:06 - 00:58:07 | Speaker 1:

What the...

00:58:07 - 00:58:38 | Speaker 2:

They had to cancel a family trip, they said, to Thailand because they didn't have any money because all their money had gone to Starbucks. And Starbucks wasn't debating that they owed them the money back, but they just, you know, a massive company like that. It just was taking so long that they had no money to go on their family trip to Thailand, they say, because of this. The craziest part was the Starbucks at some point, and this is such a corporate move. And Starbucks corporate was trying to blame the husband, Jesse, for saying that he had punched in $4,400 as a tip.

00:58:38 - 00:58:44 | Speaker 1:

Well, even if that's the case, though, you should have governors or regulators. That's not how that works.

00:58:44 - 00:59:26 | Speaker 2:

Are you trying to tip $4,000 on a $10.90 charge? And his response was, I know how to press buttons. I did not press that button, he told McClatchy News. If it wasn't the barista Then it's definitely in your network Which is a really big issue In other words, I think it would be pretty hard To accidentally put in $4,444 And 44 cents You might be meaning to put in $1 as a tip and you put in $11 But you're not punching that Six times more than you mean to Maybe you're trying to tip $4 You don't hit it six more times

00:59:26 - 00:59:59 | Speaker 1:

accidentally yeah i mean the the first thing would be it sounds like a sticky button right not like somebody right and the fact that they would come back with that right away is absolutely infuriating they better they better like not just repay the money but with interest i mean they just gave starbucks a fourth was a fourth four thousand dollar loan or whatever exactly like they better and then going through this bullshit and having to like make plan uh changes in your plans like just simply getting your money back after a year or six months is not enough for a company like that Jesus definitely and also

01:00:00 - 01:00:18 | Speaker 2:

I don't think this is how it went down because I don't think it was ever a tip. I think it was just a system error. But imagine you're working the Starbucks at the drive-thru at the Starby's. And you like somebody comes through and they're like, and we got a $4,000 tip. I mean, that's like it's your lucky. That's some it can happen to you shit.

01:00:18 - 01:00:18 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, no kidding.

01:00:18 - 01:01:01 | Speaker 2:

And then you find out that that's not real, which, again, I don't think that's how it went down. Oh, did I tell you that my dad and I were going through the – no, maybe it was me and Addie. I was going through a drive-thru with someone. I think it might have been me and Addie were going through a Starbucks drive-thru, and somebody paid it backwards to us or paid it in some direction. And when I tell you my butthole clenched, Andrew, whatever the good feeling you're supposed to have, and we've talked about this extensively on the show, I believe it might have been like the day after Christmas because Addie and I spent Christmas together. So maybe that's people were in the Christmas spirit or something.

01:01:01 - 01:01:01 | Speaker 1:

That makes sense.

01:01:01 - 01:01:16 | Speaker 2:

So we're in the drive-thru line, we're at Starbucks, we're getting some coffee, and the person says, oh, by the way, I can't remember if it was the people, it must have been the people behind me, right? Because, again, the people in front of us couldn't have paid for us because they need to still be around. How does that work?

01:01:16 - 01:01:27 | Speaker 1:

I'm always, this comes up every time, our brains can't ever quite get in yet. I know, how do we not understand the system? But the person who gets to the pay window first must be able to pay backwards, right? How do they do that?

01:01:28 - 01:01:29 | Speaker 2:

Do they leave their card open?

01:01:29 - 01:01:38 | Speaker 1:

Well, the thing is, I mean, if there's two windows, the people behind are probably one window operation. Oh, it's a one window operation. Interesting. Then it must be the car behind.

01:01:38 - 01:01:53 | Speaker 2:

I have to be the car in front of you, though, because otherwise, think about it. How would the car pulling up? This is when we got to the window. We get to the window. We're getting our like two coffees and Addy's breakfast sandwich. And they go, by the way, the people in front of you paid for your order, because I think it's supposed to be. I don't know. I don't know.

01:01:53 - 01:01:55 | Speaker 1:

But you hadn't placed your order yet.

01:01:56 - 01:02:02 | Speaker 2:

We had. Oh, that's it. We had placed our order at the, you know, place your order here thing. That's what I was thinking.

01:02:02 - 01:02:17 | Speaker 1:

So while we're doing that, okay, this makes sense. Yeah. So while you're talking to the menu, which is how, then you're saying, hey, I want this, this, and the other thing. The other car is getting to the pay place. They can say, hey, do you already know what that car behind me has paid for, or has ordered? Yeah.

01:02:17 - 01:02:39 | Speaker 2:

Well, I'll tell you, yes, Virginia, there is a Grinch. Because I got up there. No, no, no, I did. I paid it back. But I checked how much they were getting first. Because it's just me and Addie. our bill was like 12 bucks and they were like uh the people in front of you paid for your order and then i was like i'm just telling you it did not spark joy for no and what you do then is you

01:02:39 - 01:02:48 | Speaker 1:

say that's really awesome then here's the money i was ready to pay for that order and this is your tip now don't pay i forgot don't pay it to the car behind paid to the people who were busting

01:02:48 - 01:03:05 | Speaker 2:

i totally forgot i totally forgot my training instead i was like i literally said oh well how i go i guess i'm supposed to pay for the people behind me how much is their order and that was like something reasonable so i paid for it sure but like it could have been a you know van again

01:03:05 - 01:03:13 | Speaker 1:

full of soccer players like right stopping at a starbucks to quench their thirst after a game

01:03:13 - 01:03:43 | Speaker 2:

it could have been like i don't know people also order a lot of shit at starbucks that i don't order i don't know what those extra pumps of the pumpkin spice cost but you pay by the pump like talk about pain for the pump Andrew like I was just I was not in a it did not make me feel like somebody was spreading Christmas joy to me it made me stressed that I now I the social obligation is to pay for the people behind me but what if they were buying way more than $12 worth of coffee now I'm a bad guy I just wanted to get some coffee with my daughter nope and I know people

01:03:43 - 01:04:28 | Speaker 1:

there have been memes that have addressed this now and I know that we've had this conversation on the show i don't blame you for being um somewhat you know finding yourself on your i'm really struggling with words today um back feet good news i was gonna say back feet yeah i know um for being a little bit flustered is the word i was looking for in that moment uh and but yeah for those of us who have this opportunity in the future remember your training if somebody in front of you pays for your meal then you say great this money that i was prepared to give To hand over to you Hand over to them in the form of a tip You end this bullshit You don't know if the person behind you is deserving of it And you do know that the people who are serving you Are serving you And that they're working for a company That's trying to bust their unions

01:04:28 - 01:05:22 | Speaker 2:

Everybody wins in that case Because the workers get more money Because by me paying for the people behind me It just keeps kicking the can down the road Until either somebody does What we're now going to call the training Or somebody is just like a jerk and they're like cool free coffee deuces and then the chain like the chain breaks at some point is it going to break in such a way that at least the hard-working people at the starbucks get some more money or is it going to break that someone just like free coffee for me and then they're out it's better that it breaks and the people working there get some money okay i'm gonna i just next time that happens the first thing i have to do is breathe i have to breathe i have to remember my training and then i have to just give them all of the money in my wallet tuck and roll tuck and roll all right how about a little music for your weekend before we get on out of here yeah let's do that now i think

01:05:22 - 01:05:40 | Speaker 1:

it's important to note here that there has been a uh a shift at the radio station uh bob stelton and dave wyman are on now i mean we don't think that they would go back and read a text message if it was a really good text message from the show before about a very small corner of uh

01:05:40 - 01:05:53 | Speaker 2:

baseball i'm on the website the seattle sports website and it's where there's two or three comment threads dedicated to this one text that gets into that's really about robbie ray in chicago that makes sense to me field conditions that makes sense okay i'm closing this tab out

01:05:53 - 01:06:18 | Speaker 1:

um let's go with this um okay here i'm gonna play a song for you this is weird and this is one where It's so famous and from another era that it might trigger the internet police and get us pulled off of Spotify, but we'll see. This has happened to me before. I was in the car listening to the radio, and the song As Tears Go By by the Rolling Stones comes on, right? You know that song, right?

01:06:19 - 01:06:22 | Speaker 2:

I don't know by the name, but I bet you I've heard the song.

01:06:23 - 01:06:59 | Speaker 1:

Well, it comes on. It's a very melancholic song. I used to love, I had this kind of famous, I think, double cassette greatest hits of the Rolling Stones growing up. And I did not really have any Rolling Stones records, but I did have this double cassette called Hot Rocks, which is quite famous. Terrible name. I hate the name of Hot Rocks, but I don't know that too many records. The B-side Cool Nights? No. Do you know that they came out with a second one called More Hot Rocks, Big Hits and Phased Cookies? I'm still trying to figure out what phased cookies are That's gotta be a production thing

01:06:59 - 01:07:00 | Speaker 2:

I thought it was like

01:07:00 - 01:08:22 | Speaker 1:

You know I thought it was something that maybe they called Songs that they really liked but then They thought would hit the Charts harder but didn't Anyway you know as tears go by Is one of the more famous Rolling Stones Songs I think it was on this Compilation I had and I Think about that record a lot because between That and paint it black and a couple Of other like even Ruby Tuesday To a degree I remember being a very young person listening to this music and really feeling its darkness seep into me and I really connected with these songs which were so mature and older and darker um than I think anything I had been listening to before that like being very into the early Beatles and stuff anyway I'm sitting in my car at a stoplight the other day corner of 105th and and uh and uh Aurora and um the song comes on I'm not paying that much attention and the vocals kick in and I realize oh this isn't the Rolling Stones version this is that version by A female vocalist that I will hear from Time to time I'm never I never know who it is And it's not quite As a delicate sound as the Nico song that you played last week But for some reason in my head I think I Maybe always thought oh it's kind of Maybe I thought it was Nico or Nico Ask I just never paid that much attention and so I shazammed it Luke and It's by somebody named Marianne Faithful Who I don't know if that do you know That name well well yeah of course

01:08:22 - 01:08:51 | Speaker 2:

Wasn't she married to Mick Jagger Oh, is that true? Marianne Faithfull is a very famous character from back in the day. English singer and actress, achieved popularity in the 60s. This is me just reading Wikipedia. Let's see here. I'll do some. I think Marianne Faithfull, I don't know. If she was not married to Mick Jagger, I'm sorry that I basically like.

01:08:51 - 01:08:55 | Speaker 1:

looks like she was a songwriting partner with him for times but it doesn't look like i don't like

01:08:55 - 01:09:05 | Speaker 2:

it when somebody myself included is just like associating a woman with a famous man but i do i do remember a lot of marianne faithful and mick jagger overlap in one way or another interesting

01:09:05 - 01:09:09 | Speaker 1:

well i don't know i did not know anything about her but i looked she was in a relationship with

01:09:09 - 01:09:14 | Speaker 2:

mick jagger she was oh at some point in a relationship with him yes i see god or else

01:09:14 - 01:09:57 | Speaker 1:

i was even worse of a misogynist see i didn't realize that and one thing i absolutely did not know is that so while this song is credited to uh Mick Jagger and Keith Richards um it came out as a Marianne Faithful song first apparently the Rolling Stones then later recorded their version of it which I just always thought that the Rolling Stones version was the version but there you know there's a generation that might think of this song as the original version of this song as tears go by. So this was my own little personal journey probably brought to you by Kixi Radio. Having said all of that let's listen to the beginning of Marianne Faithfull, famously a partner of Mick Jagger. Let's listen to her version of As Tears Go By.

01:10:00 - 01:10:03 | Speaker 2:

a little faster like me

01:10:03 - 01:10:59 | Speaker 3:

it is the evening of the day I sit and watch the children play smiling faces I think I'm still partial to the Rolling Stones version.

01:10:59 - 01:11:28 | Speaker 2:

I like that version, though. Nice to have a couple of versions knocking around. But, yeah, man, I have such a connection to these kind of sad Rolling Stones songs. And I just, like, I even hear the instrumentation of this one. And I can just picture, I'm transported to being in my childhood bedroom, literally looking out the window and listening to this Rolling Stones record on my realistic clarinet 122 stereo system. And just being like, wow, there's a whole world out there that I don't know about.

01:11:28 - 01:11:37 | Speaker 1:

I have a couple more dazzling dutes about Marianne Faithful while I'm on the Wikipedia page. Her maternal grandfather had roots in the Habsburg dynasty.

01:11:38 - 01:11:41 | Speaker 2:

It feels good to laugh. Nepo baby.

01:11:42 - 01:11:52 | Speaker 1:

Her great-grand-uncle was Leopold von Sacher Masoch, whose erotic novel Venus and Furs spawned the word masochism.

01:11:53 - 01:11:58 | Speaker 2:

And Venus and Furs. That is a record by the Velvet Underground. Brings it back to Nico.

01:11:58 - 01:12:46 | Speaker 1:

Wow, look at that. Everything is connected. Now, the music that I would like to suggest today, Andrew, the song, which I can play from here, I actually have it, is really it's a story about perception. Not a door to perception, Andrew. That was my high school band. But it's a story about perception. So I'm poking around on TikTok, as I am wont to do, and I see a young woman, very early 20s sitting on a dock like on a river somewhere she has a very british accent and she's holding a short sm7 microphone the exact kind that i'm talking into have you noticed this trend where a lot of the podcasts or even people that are singing or doing on the street interviews they will have a sure sm7 microphone but it won't have it won't be on a mic stand they'll just be

01:12:46 - 01:13:07 | Speaker 2:

holding it by the little nub yeah there was a song that we either played for music for your weekend or maybe it was when we were doing the summer songs or the songs of the summer, but some song, a musician that was being introduced to me for the first time, and they were singing, they were just like hand-holding one of those and singing directly into it on their porch or something, and it kind of blew my mind.

01:13:07 - 01:14:07 | Speaker 1:

It really stresses me out. I want everyone to just get even just a little metal pole that you can screw into that part of the microphone. Everyone holding their shores by the nub, it's giving me agita, but that's okay. it's a generational thing so i see this young woman sitting on this dock singing into a shore microphone and the song that i hear which goes about a minute and is totally blown out like intentionally and then is cut off abruptly is called i think it's called don't hate me i go to her like tiktok feed and there's like a link to a website where it's like you can pre-register for this song on spotify so that when it's actually released it'll go into your um it'll go into your spotify or something and i was like cool i have found this totally under because there's like maybe i don't know 30 000 views of the video or something i was like i am i've got my finger on the pulse of youth music this song don't hate me by loli young so i'm gonna play it for you it has

01:14:07 - 01:14:15 | Speaker 2:

the f word in it okay hey let me play it from my end okay because you sent it to me and i optimized it a little bit and i got it ready to go here and sometimes there's an issue with you playing

01:14:15 - 01:14:36 | Speaker 1:

music from your end okay but i want you to play the whole thing though that's why i was going to play it okay because i know usually we're being careful about spotify in this case because i don't think it's on spotify and it's her just singing on a river i think we can get away with oh and also it has the f-word in it twice i want the f-word's right at the beginning so if you're sensitive we have an unbleeped version on cairo radio right now if you'd like to go if you want

01:14:36 - 01:14:42 | Speaker 2:

to hear the unbleeped version or if you want to hear the bleepers stacy and bump go to this

01:14:42 - 01:14:53 | Speaker 1:

american life okay okay could you play it for your end this is uh lola young doing exactly 59.4 seconds of a song called don't hate me it just ends totally abruptly uh-oh maybe you do want

01:14:53 - 01:15:01 | Speaker 2:

to play because i put a little fade on the end of it oh whatever that's fine i couldn't i couldn't help myself. Couldn't leave well enough alone. Okay, that's fine.

01:15:03 - 01:15:17 | Speaker 1:

You said that I'm really fucking boring. Well, that's rich coming from you. Because when you're in, you're fucking boring.

01:15:17 - 01:15:20 | Unknown:

I can't win, I can't lose.

01:15:20 - 01:16:00 | Speaker 1:

And it's cool if you don't want to hang and get loose. But my mom wants me back at like Twenty to one, baby I think that I love you But it's hard Just to be around Don't hate me, but you're not Don't hate me, but you know What I thought you was Don't hate me, but you're not So there you have it.

01:16:00 - 01:16:53 | Speaker 2:

What do you think of that song? I love it. It sounds good. It's so good, right? Yeah, really good. So I was like, I forwarded it to Addy, and I'm like, oh my gosh, like, is this maybe the song of 2023? I was having a whole, while I was fixing the water filter, again, we're recording this on Thursday, while I was fixing the water filter for the cats, I was listening to this, I was vibing. and then I thought is there any other footprint for this person Lola Young and then I google it and it's like oh she's on Island Records she went to the same performing high school that Amy Winehouse and Adele went to she sings this is something that like our listeners in the UK would totally know about this year she was tapped to sing the Christmas song for some advertising campaign for some I don't know if it's a department store that apparently is so legendary in the UK that that whatever the Christmas song is their ad song becomes a hit in the uk every year oh i wonder if it's that department store who are

01:16:53 - 01:16:58 | Speaker 3:

also famous for like releasing like these like three or four minute long commercials like everybody

01:16:58 - 01:17:46 | Speaker 2:

waits for their yearly holiday the same one yeah it's like a dude's name james something or other but like it turns out that uh lola young is doing just fine and already has a full ass record out which is good by the way i listened to it and is very much in the system and i'm sure we will very much be hearing plenty from Loli Young. But here I am because she was holding a Shure SM7 and sitting on a dock and just singing into it. It was blown out. I had all of the joy of discovery, Andrew. I just really thought I had found something that was unique. And what I found was a very savvy record company slash their PR team presenting this stuff in a way that made it appealing to me and other people who enjoy the joy of discovery even though she's very much part of the music industrial complex.

01:17:46 - 01:18:11 | Speaker 3:

john lewis i think is the name of that store although it could be yes i believe so um but this this song though song is good though you first of all it's great but you mentioned that um you mentioned that this is like kind of a a version that she's recording on a dock somewhere is this on is there a version of this on the album that's released or is there a new record coming out out yet yeah so you are i mean you know like i mean i kind of but i thought i had

01:18:11 - 01:18:51 | Speaker 2:

just found some plucky person on TikTok who was making an unbelievably good song. And that's all true. This person is making an unbelievably good song, but it's she's, and deservedly so, very much part of the studio, you know, of the music promotional system and is well-resourced or, you know, at this point, well-supported. We'll see how that goes. I'm also, I have to say, I really wish there was a full-length version of this blown-out version from the doc because I'm already, like, pre- disappointed about the production there's going to be too much production on the studio version for me maybe which i'm going to which i'll be getting auto downloaded to my spotify whenever

01:18:51 - 01:19:01 | Speaker 3:

it is that it comes out maybe i mean also sometimes this stuff is done knowingly as well it still might have some of that that grid yeah i hope i'm wrong i would love it to be

01:19:01 - 01:19:55 | Speaker 2:

as much like this as possible because i think that song is so good it gives me a major uh it gives me a major reminder of ida maria um that singer that was really big in the kind of like earlier 2000s that's like oh my god and there's a fortress around my heart there's a really great singer named ida maria who does similar sounding stuff but anyway all right uh that's my contribution for the week we've got one more and it's from listener chris and chris says and maybe chris was new andrew that you would play a song that you said you might have heard on kicksy because Chris said, I know it's not Kixi, but I think the many moods of Ben Vaughn might scratch that itch. After all these years, I think I have a pretty good idea of your musical taste, and this weekly show delivers hidden vinyl gems from the 40s through the 70s with an old school radio format. Oh, you know what I'm realizing? I think this is not a song, Andrew.

01:19:55 - 01:20:03 | Speaker 3:

I was wondering what you wanted, because I just read this this morning. two and i'm excited to check it out but i don't know what i'm gonna play because this is a radio

01:20:03 - 01:20:14 | Speaker 2:

show oh man that is not on the air let me just at least let me finish reading this since i've already ruined this i was i cut and pasted this and i thought the many moods of ben vaughn

01:20:14 - 01:20:22 | Speaker 3:

was a song but i think this is a show it's a radio show and podcast yeah okay so let me i will just

01:20:22 - 01:20:27 | Speaker 2:

finish promoting it since i've i've already botched this whole situation we can also just play uh

01:20:27 - 01:20:41 | Speaker 3:

lola young again don't hate me here's what i found i found the podcast well i found one of the podcast pages that were sent to us so i'm gonna like kind of try needle dropping this in the middle of the show somewhere and hope that there's a song there very very smart idea uh

01:20:41 - 01:21:20 | Speaker 2:

this is a weekly show that delivers hidden vinyl gems from the 40s to the 70s with an old school radio format plus i think luke will appreciate the unrelenting unrepeated delivery at the beginning of each show and ben vaughn's philly accent too i you know i'm a sucker for a little delco oh yeah he's gonna go down to the wawa a little delaware county i love that um the eagles are gonna win the super bowl i love that um so okay thank you for saving me andrew with this attempt at finding some music for your weekend that is from what is actually a radio show and podcast called the many moods of ben vaughn uh do i dare sign off here yeah let's sign off like

01:21:20 - 01:21:36 | Speaker 3:

if i'm gonna fade it up and it might end up being uh ben vaughn introducing a song i'm not sure i I just needle dropped it, and I got Jolene by Dolly Parton, but then I felt like I was taking the fun out of it by pre. So I've dropped it to a different place now. Maybe we'll even get to hear a little bit of Ben Vaughn's voice.

01:21:36 - 01:21:49 | Speaker 2:

Okay, if it doesn't work, the fallback options are we play the barter fly or we go back to just playing Wyman and Bill.

01:21:51 - 01:21:52 | Speaker 3:

Wyman and Bob, unfortunately.

01:21:53 - 01:21:59 | Speaker 2:

To see if they're reading your text by now. Those are the two. So if this doesn't work, we do have two backup plans. That's the important thing.

01:21:59 - 01:21:59 | Speaker 3:

Okay, yeah.

01:21:59 - 01:22:20 | Speaker 2:

Let me see if I can get either one of those ready to go. I love ending the week strong on my part. Good stuff, Luke. Anyway, thanks for listening, everybody. We will be back here on Monday with more Imaginary Radio for you. Until then, have a great weekend. Take care of yourselves, and please read every email carefully so you don't end up in the predicament that I'm in. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

01:22:20 - 01:22:44 | Speaker 4:

Donna owned my mind when I get up. Every morning, Donna honed my mind the whole day through. Love can come so quick and real without any warning. I wonder if she's thinking of me too.

01:22:44 - 01:23:08 | Speaker 5:

Well, once I thought that no one girl could ever hold me Even thought this thing called love was just fantasy And I can't be satisfied until I'm a baker of mine Build it, I'll just have time

01:23:08 - 01:23:18 | Speaker 1:

All right, Boneheads, you're back with the Z, man. And coming up, we've got a classic track from Aerosmith, followed by a Tuesday twofer from the Doobie Brothers.

01:23:19 - 01:23:19 | Speaker 4:

Power out.

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