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#3879 Commercial Interests
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3879 Commercial Interests

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

February 13, 2023 | 01:35:06 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke enjoyed a wonderful Super Bowl Sunday, thanks to some bonkers bets that panned out for him. He and Andrew also look at the best and worst commercials that aired during the game. And a listener blows their dang minds with a gentle correction about a favorite audio drop.
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Do you like karaoke? Yeah. It's good, you know. Something to do at night. There's nothing to do at night. What can you do at night? Bowling, movies. It's like a third thing to do after bowling in the movies. I don't know if you bowl or not. I don't go that often. But it's fun. It's fun. You can't find a ball. That's the problem. I don't know. Maybe you own a bowling ball. I don't own a bowling ball. My whole life, every time I'm in a bowling alley, sticking my fingers in all these holes, picking up the balls. you gotta get your own ball tbtl

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it's a cosmic mix the action of the 90s combined with the exploitation films of the 70s it's kind

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of a cosmic gumbo it almost moves to the beat of jazz just remember every time you look up at the

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moon i too will be looking at a moon not the same moon obviously that's impossible don't you know

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your directions it's real easy west right backwards yonder you didn't even see east that's because the earth face east dumbass let the filibustering begin all right hello good morning and welcome

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everyone to a monday edition of tvtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live the unfortunate side effect is that it makes most movies look like they were shot on high-speed video rather than film. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Lots of luck in your senior year. Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast. I forgot what a ribald and enthusiastic response that joke from Joe Biden got. Stepped on the laughter of the U.S. Congress. Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, where I give it about, I don't know, two minutes before I'm attacked by a jungle cat that lives in my apartment.

00:02:03 - 00:02:06 | Speaker 3:

Extortion, bribery, junkyard cats, this is nasty, heavy stuff.

00:02:07 - 00:03:04 | Speaker 4:

Bubbles is really going through a phase right now where she is just, I don't know, she is very very active and we've still got holly here and the the new rule well there's a couple of things that have evolved over the last few days one of the things i like to do now and i put this on instagram is i pick up my cell phone and i pretend to call the jungle and ask them if i can mail bubbles back because she's just too wild to live here and it seems to have no impact on her it's not causing her to calm down and then the other thing sometimes i'll do is i'll pick her up and i'll just stare right into her cute little eyes and i'll tell her i've never really met a person who at their core is evil but you might be a genuinely bad person um so those are the kinds of that's the kind of dialogue that we're having around everything's going fine as we arrive at episode 3879 in a collector's series let's the fun begin of course the super bowl was yesterday

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You've got to be a real football nerd to sit through the whole thing.

00:03:07 - 00:04:29 | Speaker 4:

I don't know if we can say that. I mean, we've talked about this extensively, but of course there are a lot of rules around who is allowed to call it that. That's why you hear all those weird ads where they say, getting ready for the big game on Sunday, and I just straight up called it Super Bowl. I don't even care. That's how you get the nickname, the bad boy of public radio, is you just say Super Bowl. Like it might not even be violating some kind of a trademark. Anyway, of course, the ads are always a big story. I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything. And I was pretty underwhelmed. Maybe I missed some of the good ones. I was watching the game in a pretty active environment. We went down to Salem, and Becca and I, and we went to a watch party at her brother Jeff and his wife Darcy's house. Super fun. Great time. I had lots of crazy bets going, which we can talk about coming up. But I didn't get to pay super close attention to the commercials. Thank goodness. My dear friend and the longest-running co-bro of the show runs a very successful podcast dedicated to advertising. It's called After These Messages. Right now, though, he's got his TVTL hat on. And he actually, I don't know if he had some kind of a performance review with our boss or something recently, but he called me this weekend just to tell me one thing. And I thought it was kind of weird. Like, he seemed nervous.

00:04:29 - 00:04:32 | Speaker 1:

First things first, I love my job.

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He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

00:04:36 - 00:04:44 | Speaker 5:

Luke, I don't know if you want to stop down. I'm not wearing my TBTL hat. Should I go get it? Oh, jeez. I think I have one in the other room somewhere. Okay, cool.

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I can talk more about conversations with the cats.

00:04:47 - 00:05:28 | Speaker 5:

Okay, sounds good. It's just in the other room. I'll be back in about 45, 50 minutes. Sure. Okay. All right. Sounds good. Yep. Did you have a fun time yesterday? Well, yeah, because my... We'll be right back.

00:05:00 - 00:05:02 | Speaker 2:

truly ridiculous bets were coming

00:05:02 - 00:05:51 | Speaker 1:

in. I saw it. Can I jump in from my perspective? This is about you, so it's time for me to talk. You had texted us two of your prop bets, those of us on your sports text chain, or one of them anyway, and the only one I remember off the top of my head right now, and I was a little nervous about this. Maybe you can look up the exact language of the bet, but it said, field goal or extra point hits the upright, or off the upright and crossbar or crossbar that happened sort of but i went back and i looked closely at your text because i wasn't sure if it would count there was a kicked attempt that not that did hit the upright and then bounce away but i wasn't sure if it had to hit the upright and also go in and

00:05:51 - 00:06:22 | Speaker 2:

score for a point or not that would be i can't even think of how they'd have to wait that for that to be a bet that they would offer i'm not saying i wouldn't take it but that'd have to be like plus eight thousand or something like that for it to hit the crossbar or the sort of side part of the field goal apparatus and still go in i mean that's adding another layer of complexity to it i the super bowl of course the big game as a lot of people prefer calling it do we have the right to call the super bowl is it just an advertising probably it's just like you can't

00:06:22 - 00:07:08 | Speaker 1:

say like if you're selling if you're selling your happy hour to local bar on a radio commercial you can't say come on over for the super bowl you can say come on over to watch everybody's favorite year-end game or something but i think like slick like that if you're talking about what was the college one that i heard i think during oh god it was so it was so funny the way they mangled it they weren't allowed to say whatever like the national championship game or that yeah or the final four just like see your favorite four college basketball teams oh god i can't remember what it was it was zany but yeah no i think you're allowed to say it if you're just sort of i mean are we covering are we journalists yes we're journalish yeah exactly um we uh so yeah

00:07:08 - 00:09:43 | Speaker 2:

so of course for the super bowl they put a bunch of what are called prop bets together like you can you know you can bet on like very silly things like what color will the gatorade be that is thrown on the winning coach and stuff like that and it's kind of famous for this um they don't do that most regular season games they're not just i don't know why maybe there's not enough action or maybe they don't have to monitor it but there's just like how long will the national anthem last and there's all these weird things and so i just had i had basically two kooky bets one was that the coin toss would be tails which it was because tails never fails except roughly 50 of the time if you're flipping a coin but um i learned tails never fails on the on the the streets of uh of green lake in the seattle area as a kid mostly at daniel bagley elementary school and it stuck with me to this day i will always if if given the option i will go with tails so one of the bets i had was that it would be tails and that happened so that was cool um that was a prop bet i had a bet that it would be tails and the kansas city chiefs would ultimately win the game which also happened because i thought that the chiefs were just i mean my heart really probably lies with philadelphia because that's where a lot of my family is from but i thought that the just from a kind of straight up game standpoint i felt like people were not remembering that patrick mahomes has some sort of otherworldly ability to rise to the occasion and the fact that the eagles were a pretty heavy favorite just to win the game just straight up you know if you were going to bet on the chiefs to win you would get more money you'd get a bigger return on your investment which tells you that the there's more money that thinks that the eagles are going to win and i just thought that was kind of surprising because i just think the chiefs are really good um and so the other the other wackadoo bet that i had was that a kick either an extra point or a field goal attempt would donk or doink as it were off of the like either the crossbar or one of those side things and that just doesn't happen that much and i was telling people at this party about that bet and somebody said to me you know that there's no wind at this stadium in glendale and i was like yeah i know but i'm just hoping that like the scenario that i envisioned was it's at the very end of the half or the very end of the game and out of desperation a team is forced to try to kick like a 64 yard field goal and it's on target but it just doesn't have quite enough leg and it hits the the crossbar the bottom part it just runs out of gas and hits that that was what i thought was the most likely scenario in an indoor stadium rough more or less indoor stadium there might be some kind of

00:09:43 - 00:09:54 | Speaker 1:

like i don't know it's a zeppelin isn't it aren't they playing in a they are oh the humanity it's a hindenburg actually it is i mean what they're playing inside of a balloon right also am i crazy

00:09:54 - 00:10:10 | Speaker 2:

yes it's a chinese spy balloon and we've got eyes on it um am i crazy or Or has the Super Bowl been in Glendale, Arizona, a.k.a. Phoenix, basically? Has the Super Bowl been in Glendale, Arizona a disproportionate number of times in the last 15 years?

00:10:10 - 00:10:15 | Speaker 1:

Maybe. Let me look it up. I mean, obviously, they avoid the cold weather places or any place that might present weather.

00:10:15 - 00:10:24 | Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, generally. I mean, they had it in Tampa. I mean, although, honestly, a cold weather Super Bowl would be kind of great.

00:10:24 - 00:10:27 | Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah. No, I think it would be awesome. But, you know, they don't want to run the risk.

00:10:27 - 00:10:36 | Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, listen, the Seahawks played in New Jersey when we won the Super Bowl against the Colts. So I don't think the cold weather thing applies anymore.

00:10:38 - 00:10:42 | Speaker 1:

You don't think it applies anymore? I don't think Buffalo would ever host a Super Bowl, right?

00:10:42 - 00:10:52 | Speaker 2:

But don't you think the New York tri-state area would be considered a potentially cold weather location? Or do you think – because that's where the Seahawks played in the Super Bowl. Was it like whatever?

00:10:52 - 00:11:07 | Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah. And that was, what, 10 years ago? That's 2014, right? So nine years ago or something. um let's see here i'm just i'm i was looking at let's see the last arizona it looks like for me if i'm looking at this correctly was 2015 which was not that long ago that's not that long ago

00:11:07 - 00:12:00 | Speaker 2:

considering how many stadiums there are yeah exactly but anyway um so uh it seemed like a very low probability of that happening which is why that bet uh you know for whatever i invested 25 i think it paid like 137 but like it was just so unlikely to happen and i and then i texted you all a photo of it i said something like i can't be trusted with these prop bets because i'm just sitting here on sunday morning getting kind of excited about the super bowl and kind of scrolling through my little stupid app and just like looking at some of the sillier things i could do and then have it the the amount of it was like i won my own personal super bowl when that harrison butker kick doinked off of the crossbar and everyone at the party was like freaking out because everybody knew that that was one of the silly things that i had going and then for it to happen it was just it was in my top five football experiences of my life really wow which tells you

00:12:00 - 00:12:11 | Speaker 1:

how sad my life is really your football life no i'm not i didn't say oh wow to diminish that it just feels like you have a lot of football moments yes no that's i mean that i think i was saying

00:12:11 - 00:13:09 | Speaker 2:

that slightly for effect but it was just very it was very it reminded me of every once in a while if you're playing craps which is the one with the dice there are these bets that you can make that are very specific like one is called like snake eyes and that means it's going to be each dice is going to be the you know just a one and that's called a hard bet because the only way you can hit it is the exact thing you're predicting happens and when you throw like a five dollar chip out on a hard bet like snake eyes or hard eight which would be it'd have to be a four on one dice and a four on the other when you throw out a chip and then that hard number comes up next it is like you have the power to create universes for a minute and then you have the power to continue losing your money after that um and i didn't win all of my little silly i didn't win a tremendous amount of money yesterday because i was betting a lot of small amounts of money on silly things and a lot of those silly things didn't happen but just the doinking of that one kick was so

00:13:09 - 00:14:25 | Speaker 1:

gratifying i can't even tell you yeah i believe it um yeah i my experience and we're going to be talking about the commercials here in a little bit was you know i had to make a choice before the super bowl about whether or not i was going to be joining my friends for their little super bowl party about i don't know maybe 10 of us got together and that is what i ended up doing but i was really tempted because i do like to watch the commercials and it's difficult to control the environment when you're at somebody else's house you know if i was maybe hosting my own Super Bowl party I was even I was even imagining what it would be like if I hosted my own Super Bowl party like I was thinking you know what I would do I would get one of those red flashing lights they had one at the Eagles for a while it's kind of annoying it was hooked up to the internet and when like somebody's hockey team won it would just suddenly go off it would go whoop whoop and a red flashing light would go off and people would celebrate I don't know how it works I don't know anything about hockey or the internet but I was thinking that if I were hosting a party I might install some sort of a red flashing light, like the kind you would pop on the top of your car in the 1970s if you're chasing a bank robber. And when the commercials come on, I would flick that light on and that would be everybody's cue to be quiet. It was not at my place. So, therefore, it was almost impossible. I'm sure people would love that, too. Oh, yeah. No, people would not come and that would solve all my problems.

00:14:26 - 00:14:31 | Speaker 2:

It was just like one of those things where it's like just running the light, just running constantly. You're sitting there in total silence.

00:14:33 - 00:14:59 | Speaker 1:

It's just me. See, I almost stayed home, but the thing is, I don't have cable anymore. So if I had stayed home to watch the game, I would have been streaming it on some, you know, slightly less than above board. Meaning you might not have gotten the commercial. And who knows? It could have been somebody's streaming Sunday ticket or something. I don't know how that works. But, like, sometimes when I'm streaming a game at home, I just get that floating, spinning NFL shield logo instead of a commercial.

00:15:00 - 00:15:48 | Speaker 2:

break so i was like well anyway and also i needed to make a decision like i can watch these commercials later on youtube if need be like i understand like going to somebody's house like i was choosing between fun and diligence basically and i chose fun for once in a goddamn life and i did have fun i think i was a little cranky old man i was sitting i was sitting as close to the tv as possible i was literally cupping my ear to the screen at times trying to hear did you have one of those like horns horns that's on a little stand i should have i should regularly go eh i should have i i and again like i made the right choice i was glad to hang out with everybody but i was really surprised at the lack of interest in commercials and at one point camaro kev turned up the tv for me and everybody just got louder it was amazing what is that sound sorry that's the

00:15:48 - 00:15:51 | Speaker 1:

cat she's trying to climb on the thing and i thought you were playing a drop or something

00:15:51 - 00:16:24 | Speaker 2:

she's pretty loud hey bubbles it's a live cat that's torturing me right now sorry keep going anyway so i i was you know i sound like i am there was a lack of interest in the commercials every now and then near the end of one people would be like oh this is now catching my attention like well we've already missed the first 45 seconds of the 60 second commercial doesn't matter anymore so i know that there were a lot of celebrities flying around i've gone back and re-watched some of them but it was a good time but i got to say at a certain point i'd be like listen you're just not going to see much of these commercials like nobody cared it was very there's so much cross

00:16:24 - 00:19:22 | Speaker 1:

talk and cacophony in that room well and the same with where I was which was just people are enjoying themselves and I mean honestly the big thing we could talk about this now and then let's I want to say one thing about the commercials I don't blame the people at your get-together or at my get-together the one I attended for not being interested in the commercials because I feel like they were it was an unusually bad crop of commercials like even watch it like i was watching them i wasn't hearing them i wasn't studying them but i was observing them to some degree and there was nothing happening on the screen that caused me to want to like get closer to the screen and try to understand it it's like everything was unfolding exactly the way that super bowl ads now tend to unfold in my opinion right with maybe a couple of exceptions we can talk about after the break but what i did want to say was you know what blew my flipping in mind that rihanna halftime show yeah that was really good i mean holy shit i tend to think that the super bowl halftime show is just kind of you know i just don't i mean the last year's one the previous year's one was pretty fun because i had a lot of 90s hip-hop people that i like you know so it's kind of fun to see them out there and i thought that set was pretty inventive they had at sofi center that kind of big rolling thing but a lot of times it's just you know if it's god bless maroon five or even katie perry or whomever it's just kind of like it's it's not something that i tend to find particularly intriguing and actually because um this house that we were at is on in this really beautiful part of the willamette valley and there's they have a little deck outside and it looks out on these like rolling hills and pastures it's just gorgeous and i kind of made this plan i'm gonna sit out there during the halftime show with my drinky drink and i'm gonna just do some good staring like this will be nice and i was that was going to be my plan And then there's just so much other – like I sat out there for what felt like 20 minutes. I thought, well, they must be playing again. I go inside, and it's just starting the halftime show because there's just like so much extra padding of commercials and ceremony and everything. So I thought that was one of the best – I mean the all-time best – this is not a particularly inventive take by me. The all-time best halftime show I think was Prince famously played Purple Rain. It was raining. They were very nervous. They went to him. They were like, Mr. Prince, sir, it's raining. and he said can you make it rain harder i don't know if he even said it but i pray to god he did because it's one of the most badass lines of all time that to me is kind of the top for halftime shows but this one was from a visual standpoint i thought really amazing like the choreography the outfits the sets and the way that a lot of times what happens is there's like too many set changes during the halftime show and like the person who's performing keeps like disappearing and they come out in a different outfit and then there's like 700 you know school children are running out onto the field carrying you know banners what you know like there's so much movement and change and and uh whatever that it gets a little distracting and feels gimmicky this was just like here's what our set is it's these bunch of like levitating ass stages and a bunch

00:19:22 - 00:19:33 | Speaker 1:

of people in like white coats and they're dancing around behind rihanna and damn does she have a lot of hits i was shocked at how many hits she has i loved it too i thought it was great and i loved

00:19:33 - 00:19:53 | Speaker 2:

that and they'll do this every now and then like they they'll have the halftime show where it's like maybe one performer is the headliner but then they bring out a million other people as kind of featured artists then you have the ones like last year which i really really like too which had several headliners with dre and snoop dogg and eminem and blah blah um and i think

00:19:53 - 00:19:54 | Speaker 1:

Dre was in it.

00:19:54 - 00:20:16 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, and Kendrick Lamar and Anderson Paak Show. I mean, I loved last. years but i also like i loved the simplicity of this year's too and i think the weekend didn't have any um have any extra featured performers either but i'm not as big of a weekend fan and like you're right the visuals of the rihanna show was amazing here's how it's funny that it reminded

00:20:16 - 00:20:28 | Speaker 1:

me of the cremaster cycle have you familiar with that whole um matthew barney art piece that they shot at like anyway it was just like it was it was so artsy to me the the the outfits and everything

00:20:28 - 00:21:18 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. And the way it was like, it's funny that you used Katy Perry as an example, because I actually loved the Katy Perry one. Like, I just kind of like bright colors. It was silly. The beach balls, the left shark messing up the thing, the shooting star that she was hanging on. I just kind of liked the the the very simple visuals of that sort of in the bright colors. So Katy Perry, and I only go back about 10 years. I don't count Prince because I didn't watch that, you know what I mean, in the context of the Super Bowl. I've seen it since. But, like, for me, just going back, like, the last 10 years or whatever, most of them I don't care about. Katy Perry is probably my favorite. And then it's really tough for me to choose between Rihanna and last year's, which was kind of like, I don't know, was it like a tribute to Compton or a salute to Compton? Yeah, they were in L.A.

00:21:18 - 00:21:19 | Speaker 1:

It was a tribute to, like, West Coast Rap.

00:21:19 - 00:22:04 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. And so anyway, like, I don't know. I really like last year's and I liked so many of the people in last year's and 50 cent hanging upside down. So his chain looked like 20 cents, which I thought was interesting. And then but anyway, but I but I'm also with you. Like, I didn't watch a lot of those Star Wars movies where there was like a Senate chamber and there was like people debating space legislation or whatever. But I was like, if it looked like that, that would be awesome because like they were floating around. It was sort of video game-y, and I mean almost like Nintendo 1989 video game-y, with those levels kind of moving around. The simplicity of the bright red, boop, and then the white.

00:22:04 - 00:22:09 | Speaker 1:

If she would have jumped up and banged, like punched a coin box at some point, that would have been freaking amazing.

00:22:09 - 00:22:23 | Speaker 2:

And so I just loved it as a visual spectacle, and I agree with everything you said, but then the very last shot, they zoom in on her, and she's still up. on one of those platforms all the way near the i mean it looked like you know near the top of the

00:22:23 - 00:22:28 | Speaker 1:

stadium or whatever and you could see it safety there better be a safety harness inside of that

00:22:28 - 00:23:05 | Speaker 2:

big red like giant puppy coach yeah there there was but like even if you didn't see like you could see the platform like kind of moving a little bit you could tell that like oh this is real life like she's a real life human being standing on this platform that is wobbling a tiny bit way way way up in the sky and i know that every safety measure has been taken but i don't care you could put a safety harness on my safety harness i wouldn't go up there i the whole thing was stunning and then at the end to see this little reminder of just like my god she's up there on a thing i thought it was fantastic and by the way pregnant and pregnant and it was like that that's a first

00:23:05 - 00:23:09 | Speaker 1:

i'm so prince pregnant when he said make it rain harder i can't remember i mean that's that's

00:23:09 - 00:23:27 | Speaker 2:

amazing i'm so behind on pop culture i wasn't sure if we knew she was pregnant but i got the Impression that it was because of the way her Outfit sort of featured it and she sort of Seemed like she gestured with her like Very first movement I got the impression That it was kind of a pregnancy reveal which I Think I've now read it was which was Also very very cool

00:23:27 - 00:24:20 | Speaker 1:

But it caused me a minor Internal freak out Andrew Because I Saw what you saw and it looked She was a person who appeared to be pregnant Right and the way that the Outfit was designed it seemed to be drawing attention to That and so I said oh she I think I said something like, oh, she's pregnant. And then someone at the party said, oh, no, she just had her baby because I guess she had a baby not that long ago. I guess this would be her second child now. And when I tell you, Andrew, how mortified I was that I had just assumed because Rihanna had what I thought was a baby bump that she was pregnant, and someone was like, no, no, she just had the baby. And it happened to be a woman who told me that. Oh, no, she had her baby. And then I'm just like, so maybe this is just her body is just a little different from having had a baby. and it's like you know i was like oh my god that's so mortifying i just completely like and i had sworn off saying people were pregnant who weren't pregnant

00:24:20 - 00:24:26 | Speaker 2:

right well you didn't say it to her face yeah i mean nothing could but at minus but worse i said

00:24:26 - 00:24:46 | Speaker 1:

it in a room that was about half men half women everyone watching intently and me me basically like pregnancy shaming rihanna and then and there was about a minute went by and i was just like i can't and also you know i've been having some drinks so i was probably a little extra in my head although i often claim that having the drinks caused me to be less in my head so which is it

00:24:46 - 00:24:57 | Speaker 2:

burbs but it's not but there's no way it's worse and also you're not pregnancy shaming i mean don't get me wrong you don't want to say it had a baby and her body you know she still had a bit

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of a belly which is a very typical thing after having

00:25:00 - 00:25:21 | Speaker 3:

Like if she just had the baby a month ago I don't know the timeline you know what I mean And if I was like seeing her Postpartum body I guess And assuming it meant that she was Now pregnant again and I was wrong it was me just Assuming that because she had a bit of a belly you know I just had all these thoughts going through my head and then One minute goes by and someone goes Oh no she's pregnant again like they had been Googling it and then I was like okay phew

00:25:21 - 00:25:56 | Speaker 2:

Yeah um yeah again It's not ideal to comment on Somebody being pregnant if they're not but I I don't think I mean, it'd be pregnancy shaming if you had said something not shaming about it. You don't want to be mistaken. But, yeah, the way that her outfit was so clearly like kind of featuring that that aspect of her body, it's sort of I thought so, too. But I think we were in kind of a similar situation. Somebody said, is she pregnant? Then everybody kind of went quiet. And then I was like, no, I think she's I think she's pregnant. Then I opened up Twitter, which really made me feel good when I got to see Elon Musk hanging out with the with the Fox.

00:25:57 - 00:26:09 | Speaker 3:

You mean with Rupert Murdoch? You mean pulling cotton up, pulling a fat cotton. Oh, I didn't even notice. Was he vaping in there? He was exhaling a vape as he then leaned in to say something else to Rupert Murdoch. Oh, I didn't see the vaping.

00:26:09 - 00:26:11 | Speaker 2:

That's so perfect. You have to love it.

00:26:11 - 00:26:26 | Speaker 3:

That's really perfect. I've never felt better about leaving Twitter. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's like the one high horse. Although the comedian Rory Scoville, who's very funny, has a bit about what is a high horse. Is it just a regular horse and the other people are on the ground?

00:26:26 - 00:26:29 | Speaker 2:

So that's why it seems like a big deal.

00:26:29 - 00:26:31 | Speaker 3:

I don't want to get on a high horse about this.

00:26:31 - 00:26:39 | Speaker 2:

Or maybe, and this is a guess here, might, well, maybe he's just trying to make a joke and make people laugh, and this isn't, you're not actually asking me.

00:26:39 - 00:26:43 | Speaker 3:

I mean, it is in the context of stand-up comedy, so I would say that's kind of what he's doing.

00:26:43 - 00:26:54 | Speaker 2:

Doesn't it make the most sense, though, that probably it's a reference to a time when the person on the highest horse was in charge? If you're all on horses, but the person probably maybe leading the charge might be on the biggest horse?

00:26:54 - 00:27:32 | Speaker 3:

I guess so. I mean, there must that must have been what it what it was. But in this day and age, when very few of us have access to a horse of any size, it would be I mean, any regular horse. If I'm on the ground and you're on a horse, Andrew, it's I'm going to tell you from my perspective, it's a pretty high horse. Yes, I would agree. You've immediately, you know, you've taken the apex position in the conversation, I guess. OK, let us take a quick break here and then we come back. We will actually talk about some of these commercials that there was one. That made me laugh out loud So we will run through some of these In a minute here on TBTL

00:27:32 - 00:27:40 | Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to Top Story

00:27:40 - 00:27:48 | Speaker 3:

Alright, it was the Super Bowl Are they still using the Monday Night Football theme For the Super Bowl, Andrew?

00:27:48 - 00:28:01 | Speaker 2:

I think so I don't know how we got on it But somebody brought up Basketball So a lot of us were singing the fake John Tesh basketball song during the Super Bowl.

00:28:02 - 00:28:15 | Speaker 3:

I always feel like now when I see, because Tim Robinson from I Think You Should Leave didn't make a tremendously huge impact on the SNL world. He was in a few sketches, but it didn't really work out for him, I think. And then after that was when he did Detroiters, right?

00:28:16 - 00:28:18 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I didn't realize he wrote for SNL until years later.

00:28:18 - 00:28:53 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, I remember when he was on it, but I remember him being one of those folks who you just maybe saw a couple skits over a whole season. But now it's like, because we all think of him, or at least folks like you and I think of him as just such a comic genius, that to see him kind of in his early days, like doing the, he's John Tesh's brother. So Jason Sudeikis is John Tesh, and they're going to pitch the NBC execs on what became Round Ball Rock. But there's a lyrics part of it, which is just Tim Robinson singing, basketball, give me the ball, I want to dunk it.

00:28:54 - 00:29:02 | Speaker 2:

My favorite part of that, I think, is when he says that it started as a poem, indicating that the lyrics came first, then the music.

00:29:03 - 00:29:59 | Speaker 3:

Just imagine whatever Ron Tash or whatever his name is sitting around writing a poem that goes basketball. No music. anyway so the let's see I didn't like I already kind of laid this out the beginning of the show but I didn't do a careful study of all of the commercials but I was watching them and kind of having this sense like of just there is such a formula now it feels to me for Super Bowl commercials which is you get a very famous person and you put them in a slightly surprising situation and then you make a one minute film about that like that just seems to be the tradition oh you know what I was watching from afar but didn't listen to the audio of and you could probably tell me more about this when what ended up happening with the Maya Rudolph Eminem situation I think that was kind of a mishigas I looked like a mishigas from where I was but I wasn't listening to all of the

00:30:00 - 00:30:17 | Speaker 1:

It looked exactly like, and again, Maya Rudolph is a national treasure, but it just looked like everybody was just doing the thing you expect them to do. Maya Rudolph was being Maya Rudolph in the sort of caftan, and there was something where they were turning the M&Ms into animated people or real people, or what the hell was going on?

00:30:17 - 00:32:44 | Speaker 2:

So here's the deal, and M&Ms really relied on the fact that they were getting a lot of earned media, as we talked about on this, and just a long, long ramp up to this. And they all just trusted that, like, a lot of people are going to be kind of following this leading up to the Super Bowl. Whether or not that gamble pays off, I have no idea. But, of course, they released a press release, a cup, of course, I say, but, of course, to our listeners who've been following this shit along with me. I just I'm so I hate this campaign so much, but I don't know what, like two or three weeks before the Super Bowl, Mars Corporation releases a press release saying, hey, we're retiring the spokescandies. Maya Rudolph is going to be the new spokesperson. And you and I were both like, that's probably not going to happen. This is some Super Bowl crap. And of course it was. And then in the you were you called that. I don't think I called it. I just want to give you credit. OK, I'll take credit for that because it just seemed like so stunty. And then leading up to the Super Bowl, they released these teaser ads. And I don't know if you had to seek these things out or if they were like pre-rolls before Hulu shows or what. But it was like Maya Rudolph sitting in front of just like in front of a desk, kind of playing some sort of exaggerated character, talking about how M&Ms are now becoming Maya, my mys or my mys. I already can't even remember what they were changing the name or something that was my ma's or whatever is based on her name. And like under her, things were going to change and the M&Ms were going to be fired. And these were like these little teasers. So by the time you got to the actual Super Bowl ad, it was so confusing. It was like this big Super Bowl style, colorful ad with Maya Rudolph introducing the new, I don't know if you have in front of you now, Maya Mize or whatever that have her face on them instead of an M&M. And instead of chocolate inside, there's clam flavored inside. And the whole song was about how the new candy tastes like clams. I don't know if you picked up on any of that. And people are trying them and then grimacing. And then at the very end, everybody who's performed in this musical number is sort of just like, you know, it's very bright and colorful and everybody's just sort of freeze frame staring at the frame and you see one of the spokes candies sort of stick his head out and say, please send help or whatever. And then apparently later on after the Super Bowl or something, there was a very short like press conference with the candies getting rehired or something like that. But it was like you really had to follow this whole thing to understand what the hell was going on. And even then, I don't think it made much sense.

00:32:45 - 00:33:52 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, like I thought the Duncan ad was a kind of a funny idea to where Ben Affleck is, you know, it appeared to be that they just actually stuck him in a Duncan. somewhere and then were kind of filming normal people's reactions although you never know maybe they were hiring really good actors who were good at pretending to be normal people but then it's funny because so the ad was like it's shot kind of very sort of documentary style if you will like it's like real people and it's I liked the look of it and then when Jennifer Lopez rolls up at the end she's in a completely different style of filming because she's Jennifer Lopez and probably her contract was like you ain't shooting me on like high eight motherfuckers or whatever security cam footage whatever you're using on old ben nah nah nah you you better get some of your finest nylons and stretch them over that camera lens because and it really took me out of the commercial because like everyone i liked the the verisimilitude of it the way it was and then all of a sudden j-lo rolls up in full hair and makeup j-load out and they're literally shooting her differently and then it was like now this is

00:33:52 - 00:35:00 | Speaker 2:

i didn't like that part of the commercial that didn't bother me much i like that commercial because it used celebrities but it wasn't like some huge over-the-top thing it's almost like i don't know i'm working on a theory here and it's still only monday morning so it's still pretty we'll have it dialed in by friday well by hopefully by after these messages tomorrow but like i almost feel like it seemed i wasn't angry at the commercials this year i didn't think they were bad i just thought that they were blah and the blahest of the blahs were the ones that used to be the attention getting ones we have like kind of what you described like we have celebrities and we're we're making a really big commercial you know Sylvester Stallone is gonna hang out of the nose of a Sylvester Stallone face on the side of a mountain like I just like that kind of stuff was just like I I don't even there might have been a time when you'd be like that one wasn't as good but like now I really don't think that people are paying that much attention to the really big celebrity commercials um it's actually like yeah Affleck and Lopez huge celebrities but it was like in this kind of low profile commercial that was just 30 seconds and it wasn't like it wasn't an epic it was just a 30 second commercial the way

00:35:00 - 00:35:17 | Speaker 3:

Like, really well-used celebrity in that case, I feel like. I agree. I thought that one was pretty good. You know, let me see. I thought that there was one for some company called Workday where they were calling out people in corporate America for calling each other rock stars.

00:35:18 - 00:35:23 | Speaker 2:

I didn't get to hear that one. I only saw the teaser, and I need to go back. Did it pay off?

00:35:24 - 00:35:52 | Speaker 3:

It was okay. It was like Paul Stanley was in it And I think Pat Benatar Or maybe Joan Jett I always mix Pat Benatar and Joan Jett up And then Ozzy Osbourne Was in it too It was like a bunch of these rockers Who are actual rock stars I guess you would say And then What I liked about it I didn't think the commercial was The commercial was sort of fine But I just liked that they were making fun of Corporate people calling each other rock stars

00:35:52 - 00:35:54 | Speaker 2:

Good I'm glad to hear that that was the joke

00:35:54 - 00:36:24 | Speaker 3:

Just that part of it, because they kept cutting to, like, and there's just one part where a guy's in a boardroom, and he's like, you guys are just total, and he's about to say it, and then it's like, Ozzy Osbourne, like, opens the door, or maybe it's Paul Stanley from Kiss, opens the door, and the guy stops, so, like, I just, I thought that was kind of clever, I don't know what Workday does, it doesn't, I mean, none of this makes me want to consume any of these products, more or less, right, but the, oh, actually, no, there is one I probably want to consume less, and that was the Hellman's commercial, the Manny's commercial, with John Hammond,

00:36:24 - 00:36:36 | Speaker 2:

brie larson in the refrigerator yeah i did kind of hear that one and again i was kind of like meh it didn't offend me that that offended you well it did not offend but like yeah it it what it it

00:36:36 - 00:37:40 | Speaker 3:

made me feel really awkward because i think that brie larson and john ham are both very talented performers who i really like in their things that they're in it felt like such a thin premise right let me just play a little bit for you like it felt to me like of course if you're john ham and brie larson and you're they want to put you in a super bowl commercial and pay you a lot of money you're not going to say no but it was like okay his last name is ham that's a food and her last name is brie or her first name is brie well by the way brie and ham is not really a thing that i can think of like i don't think there's a classic ham and brie sandwich so that was a little bit like i felt like they were kind of forcing it but whatever they then thought they were being clever by making the whole commercial these two people being like oh get it, our names are like food like they were trying to get away with it by being clever and being like we're also in on the joke. So it starts out with them just standing John Hamm and Brie Larson are in the refrigerator they're like roughly the size of like a jar of mayonnaise right? So here let me just see if I can I have it right here

00:37:40 - 00:37:45 | Speaker 1:

John? Brie, any idea why we are in a fridge? Well I'm

00:37:45 - 00:37:48 | Speaker 3:

Brie. I'm John. I know But you're John who?

00:37:48 - 00:37:48 | Speaker 1:

John Ham.

00:37:49 - 00:37:49 | Speaker 3:

So we're Brie and?

00:37:50 - 00:37:56 | Speaker 1:

Brie and Ham. Ham and Brie. I get it. And Hellman's. We're dinner. Well, with Hellman's, all these leftovers can be anything.

00:37:57 - 00:38:02 | Speaker 3:

And then Pete Davidson opens the refrigerator door and he looks in. Davidson.

00:38:02 - 00:38:05 | Speaker 1:

Uh-huh. He really is everywhere. I'm going to eat you guys.

00:38:07 - 00:38:44 | Speaker 3:

And then he's making a sandwich, which by the way, does look freaking amazing, where, you know, he's like, he's basically grilling up a sandwich. And my first thought was, did he just murder John Hamm and Brie Larson? Like, are they in the sandwich? Is he going to take a bite of them? And then it's like, no, through some sort of transubstantiation, now they're just actually the product, right? Like, they were the human beings we think of as John Hamm and Brie Larson. And then Pete Davidson shows up, and then he's like, I'm going to eat you. And then cut to grilling a sandwich, which I think is murdering two very talented American actors. But no, it's just the food product things.

00:38:44 - 00:38:49 | Speaker 1:

and now you guys are really delicious all of a sudden John Hamm and Brie Larson are full size

00:38:49 - 00:39:01 | Speaker 3:

and they're just like staring at Pete Davidson who's eating this sandwich but we I just felt like the internal logic of the commercial didn't really make sense to me and it was another example

00:39:01 - 00:39:54 | Speaker 2:

of just like okay I mean I always like to try to think like where did the idea come from did somebody say hey I know John Hamm or did somebody say hey what are some famous actors like we can spend a lot of money this is our big super bowl thing um also i love the way that that says hellman's in the commercial i'm looking at now with the one i saw on tv was uh best foods it's one of those brands that is different on different sides of the uh different sides of the river or whatever um but it's like and they're like okay you can get pete davidson and it's kind of funny because pete davidson is very charming he's in a lot of commercials and they say boy he's in everything but like wouldn't it be kind of funny if the twist was another person whose name was a food or something it just sort of was like it started off with this idea of hey famous people whose names are food whether they go together or not and then at the end it's just like hey i know pete davidson what if we make him eat these guys okay like really like all of a sudden they're

00:39:54 - 00:40:00 | Speaker 3:

not the like are they the food or are they not he says i'm gonna eat you now how are they standing

00:40:00 - 00:40:14 | Speaker 2:

their full size well i mean that's what i'm saying it's like it doesn't i don't think it's supposed to make scientific sense but like i just from a joke it just i mean i don't care if it doesn't make sense but like it doesn't make comedic sense to me is my problem yeah i think

00:40:14 - 00:41:01 | Speaker 1:

again we've established that i'm far too linear like uh it just generally like with the all the kind of things that i the entertainment that i tend to consume but like i just for it to be funny To me it also needs to have a certain amount Of internal logic and it just For me really kind of fell apart I will give them credit on this that sandwich looks Delicious I don't even eat cheese In the sandwich looks pretty good Like I mean and they're doing the Move that I learned from our friend Francis Lamb Andrew which is you put the mayo on the Outside of the sandwich when you're going to grill It because it has a what do you call that Like a lower smoke point So you can basically like grill it Like as opposed to butter like you Can grill up a grilled cheese sandwich or whatever with mayo on the outside and it cooks it more thoroughly without things burning because the mayo

00:41:01 - 00:42:09 | Speaker 2:

heats up differently than butter i think i heard you mention this maybe be maybe before the break or maybe you just sort of mentioned it during the break but i want to draw our attention to it because one of the ones that i just straight up liked was the um the jack harlow triangle oh really you liked that one yeah and i didn't even know so i mean again a lot of this is going to have to do with context i didn't know who jack harlow was until last tuesday when genevieve played me a couple of teaser ads for this and I understand he's a very popular you know musician I guess hip-hop artist and I didn't really know that but I saw a couple of like 10 second commercials that you know led up to Jack Harlow is struggling with something create creatively and it was unclear what it was I was like okay those were fine teasers they didn't jump out they were fine but then um so it kind of caught my attention I guess that's the idea of teasers like I wouldn't have known who Jack Harlow was but when it came on during the Super Bowl I'm like oh oh oh this is that guy what's going to happen with this guy and then I thought the joke about um about him like turning his attention to the triangle was kind of funny but then when Elton John wins the award for best triangle performance I laughed out loud I thought that was a really funny twist yeah I

00:42:09 - 00:43:25 | Speaker 1:

thought it's pretty good I think because I spend way too much time on TikTok I'm pretty aware I've been aware of Jack Harlow because his music has uh was really embraced on TikTok during the pandemic and I don't have a problem with Jack Harlow but I think it's just generational I'm just too old for that a lot of that stuff so seeing it felt stunty to me to for them to because i i arrived at the at the awareness that a person named jack harlow exists different than you did you know what i mean so from kind of where i was at i was like oh okay well they're putting jack harlow in this and i guess i feel like that for me the doritos commercials are always just one neighborhood over from working like they're they obviously like spend a lot of money they usually get famous people i mean they had freaking elton john in it they they're they're not unclever but for some reason the doritos commercials just are always they they're like 80 of the way there for me and it it seems to me like it seems to happen a lot with doritos i don't know if it's the ad campaign they have the ad agency or whatever but um i did like when he had a fragrance called triangle i mean that was a funny i thought that was a funny little touch like they did you know and i thought he pulled the commercial off well like he was likable and um and like you know as the absurdity of this like triangle you know i mean i did think it was interesting that they had to

00:43:25 - 00:44:08 | Speaker 2:

wedge a cowbell joke in i know that was that was yeah that was like kind of like well we're out of we're out of triangles but we have extra cowbells at a music store or something let me ask you this because i i was not super familiar with post malone although i i know if a post malone song comes on i know it or i can identify it as being a post malone song jack harlow i have no idea i've maybe heard music maybe i haven't i have no idea but um i kind of got like this and genevieve said it was just because i they're both white rappers but like i sort of got this this sort of vibe from both of them as commercial actors that they were both kind of like these charming sort of like a little bit humble performances sort of is there any can is there any um correlation there that

00:44:08 - 00:44:59 | Speaker 1:

you can see or like i think much more post malone yeah um i i don't i don't yeah i think jack harlow is seen i mean like i really know but the sense is yeah i think jack harlow is seen as a uh as a sort of like a hip-hop guy but who's also sort of relatable he really likes basketball and i think he's like pretty good at it so that's kind of part of his deal like he's a lot of times i'll see like you know clips where he's just like playing pick up basketball with people and stuff and definitely post malone post malone's thing is an almost like obsequious level of gushing about everyone and everything i love post malone for the record i love that guy i like his music i think he seems like a big sweetheart um uh i'm just stopping short of building something called the post office where i like to hang out and listen to his music but i'm right up to the edge of that um but uh But Post Malone's thing that I.

00:45:00 - 00:46:17 | Speaker 2:

find so charming is that he really is he appears to be as he moves through the world you know for someone with like face tattoos and who makes a kind of music that was pretty derided early on by cool people i remember reading a review of his show he had a show at you know whatever uh big seattle arena i don't think it was out well it would have to be out outside if it was it if it was at the clink or whatever they're calling that place now he had played some huge show in seattle and i think the stranger went and reviewed it and just took a giant steaming turd on him and i'd never heard his music and i was like oh well this all checks out and then i started to hear his music more and i was like this is pretty catchy actually and then i started to see interviews with him or see him in doing things where he's just like the kindest dude you could i mean he appears to be like he just loves his fans and also did this thing during the pandemic that i thought was pretty cool which is he and a kind of super group of people just played that entire nirvana album like front to back like they like they put on dresses which i think was a reference to something that maybe nirvana had done at some point and they just shredded an entire nirvana album and streamed it and was raising money for charity and it was really good like because he loves nirvana like so anyway i am obviously a post malone fan i think you're not incorrect to say that both of those guys are thought of as being quote unquote good guys for whatever that yeah

00:46:17 - 00:46:45 | Speaker 1:

actually mean i didn't know like what their reputation was but just as far as how they presented in these commercials and i just looked it up i thought post malone was also in a doritos commercial but his was a bud light commercial actually yes i liked those i loved those as well but yet knowing nothing about jack harlow but just seeing his face um i was just kind of like i don't know there was just sort of giving me that that vibe again and i again i thought it was a i thought it was a pretty decent performance by him in that commercial i will say that the um snoop dog

00:46:45 - 00:47:02 | Speaker 2:

sketchers commercial was that just felt like they phoned that in from 10 years ago first of all i find the sneakers to be objectively not appealing and not in a way like i don't understand them like i don't understand yeezys but i recognize that they're fashionable these sketchers were just

00:47:02 - 00:49:20 | Speaker 1:

they just look bad they just look like bad shoes to me well those are the same shoes now these were a little bit more colorful and a little bit more jazzed up but those are literally the same shoes that are advertised in reader's digest because they are aimed at older audiences they are shoes that you can slip on without bending over and the fact that you have um uh what can i think snoop dogg's best friend no um martha stewart yeah she's famous enough i should remember her name um and the fact that like i i wondered as i was as i watched that commercial and then in the 10 seconds i had before something else shiny caught my attention i was starting to like kind of think about this idea of this older generation of of hip-hop stars i had heard something after the grammys somebody sort of just kind of talking about how like kind of for the first time although it's been a you know a few a decade in the making or whatever like hip-hop was always inherently young because it started in the i guess the late 70s if you're being as as generous as possible really the early 80s and now you have several generations of hip-hop and this idea that Like hip hop is like, you know, if rock, if we're going to go with rock and roll kind of starting in the 50s and then you're seeing the older generations kind of kind of, I don't know, transform a little bit into kind of a different period of their life and music. And then you have younger rock stars coming up and you see that genre change. We're seeing that with hip hop and have been for the past, I don't know, decade or two as we have like legit elder statesmen. Like when I saw Jay-Z, Jay-Z, is he 60 yet? I don't know, but you have Snoop Dogg. No, he's probably not sick. But you have the Martha Stewart factor, and I can't remember if it was jammed into one commercial or they split it into two, but it's like her running and flipping and then landing in the shoes without having to tie them or what have you. I was sort of interested in that commercial not as a cool new shoe, but are they advertising to older people but not trying to make it seem stodgy and just like ugly white shoes, you know, in the same way the rock and roll generation you still have you know like kind of these leather jackets selling to the aging boomers in the 90s or whatever um by the way jay-z 53 years old so

00:49:20 - 00:49:24 | Speaker 2:

older than i thought so you're not what you're not crazy you're not way off seven years old

00:49:24 - 00:49:30 | Speaker 1:

off but still though but like you know we're getting just like we are getting old like

00:49:30 - 00:50:29 | Speaker 2:

absolutely but yeah and that's an interesting take on that because you're right i was looking at this thinking i can't imagine that this like the kids kids these days i can't imagine that 22 year olds are like i gotta get me some of those banana yellow sketchers that uh sick uh i mean snoop has got to be also like 55 or something now that like this 55 year old man is wearing while he talks to his 79 year old friend which the thing i'd really like to say is we get it we get it martha stewart Thank you.

00:50:00 - 00:50:13 | Speaker 4:

Snoop Dogg unlikely companions like I I sort of can't believe that the advertising agency whoever wrote that or whatever group of people wrote that with a straight face thought they were doing anything that the world needed by thinking and then we'll have Martha Stewart

00:50:13 - 00:50:27 | Speaker 3:

do it do they do anything separate anymore like I'm not even joking like I think that they're I mean they are really like I guess you would call it whether or not you find it funny like a brand duo yeah yeah but it's just so I mean I guess if you look at it that

00:50:27 - 00:51:23 | Speaker 4:

way maybe that's a different because it's sort of like you would see i don't know abbott and costello they would you know be doing an ad together or something or other people that are famously um associated and maybe they've moved to that level which would actually make it make more sense i just think it's still this kind of thing that like very unimaginative ad people are just like get a load of this this old white lady and this hip-hop guy and you know i'm not to be mean to martha stewart but just like this is an unlikely pairing but it just feels like that has been that has been presented across so many different products where anyone who thinks like get I can't believe these two hang out it's like we believe it at this point 20 years in I believe it like I don't know it just seems like it doesn't now again if if they have some contractual thing or if they're personally really like buddies or if it's like you know what's the last like the Smothers Brothers you know you wouldn't get one of the Smothers Brothers and not the other one so maybe that's like the level they're operating

00:51:23 - 00:51:56 | Speaker 3:

at now that's sort of i mean i'm not saying i'm right about it but that was just sort of what i got it's not even like oh get a load of this it's almost like i just expect it now but i mean i'm sure you're right like i'm sure there's still somebody who's like can you believe these guys are friends but i'm just sort of like oh yeah they're just kind of like a brand together now that i just sort of like i don't know i like i like to think that there's something legitimately like they just like working together but i'm with you like if somebody thought they were really blowing our minds with that like i'm not uh i'm not along for the ride um the uh did you happen

00:51:56 - 00:52:10 | Speaker 4:

to catch the will ferrell uh i'm in gm electric vehicles but we're also getting netflix to put more gm electric vehicles in their movies whatever that situation was that was one that i was like

00:52:10 - 00:52:39 | Speaker 3:

literally like trying to press my face up against the tv so i could hear what was going on but everybody was shouting and talking about other things so i was watching it and i saw what was going on and i saw him driving this gm truck across various netflix sets and shows and scenes but i have not gone actually is that one worth playing should i hear it i have the audio here do you want me to play if you have it there why don't you um because i i'm actually really interested in knowing whether or not that's a good commercial well this is the thing i love

00:52:39 - 00:53:35 | Speaker 4:

will ferrell um and i'm willing to say that right here right now too i don't care who hears this i I enjoy the work of Will Ferrell, and I enjoy, like, you just, you point a camera at the guy, he has a sort of quality that is always going to be interesting to me. That being said, I still don't really understand what the sales pitch is here, or why they decided that this is what they wanted, unless it was just a way for Netflix and GM to split the cost on a commercial. So, yeah, just to describe it, in case people missed it or whatever, it's Will Ferrell kind of traveling through these different little, like, scenes that are associated with, like, Squid Games and Stranger Things and other kind of big, like, Netflix at Bridgerton. He's kind of popping up in these things, but he's also trying to make this pitch that it's for electric, it's, like, for electric vehicles by GM, but amidst these Netflix shows. Anyway, so that's what's going on. I'll just play the audio here.

00:53:35 - 00:53:46 | Speaker 2:

General Motors is going electric. And Netflix is joining in by including more EVs in their movies and shows. The least they can do. So if you're going to get swarmed by an army of the dead, why not get swarmed in an EV?

00:53:46 - 00:53:51 | Speaker 4:

So like a zombie type person is now biting Will Ferrell's hand as he's sitting in this truck.

00:53:52 - 00:53:58 | Speaker 1:

I said no biting. Or if you're being voluntarily kidnapped, why not be kidnapped in an EV? What's that scent? Is it pine?

00:53:59 - 00:54:00 | Speaker 4:

He's getting squid games.

00:54:01 - 00:54:05 | Speaker 1:

He's everywhere? They shallant. They shant. Is it shallant?

00:54:05 - 00:54:12 | Speaker 4:

This is actually pretty good. I heard this joke, yeah, that did make a laugh. He's in, like, Bridgerton at this point, which is, like, this period piece. Shallot.

00:54:13 - 00:54:21 | Speaker 1:

They shant. Is it shallot or shant? It's neither. What about here, Erica? You're ruining the show, you idiot. What do you mean? It's me, Dusty. You're not.

00:54:21 - 00:54:25 | Speaker 4:

He's in Stranger Things now, as the musical indicate. This is ridiculous.

00:54:25 - 00:54:27 | Speaker 1:

Tammy, wait. Later, loser.

00:54:28 - 00:54:37 | Speaker 2:

But anywhere else, it makes sense. There goes another runner. Brad was so much better for you. You should have gone with Brad. Get Brad. Are you serious? why not make more of those cars electric

00:54:37 - 00:54:59 | Speaker 4:

he's in squid games now and he's about to get you know obliterated whatever that game did you end up watching that what's that did you end up watching that squid game i watched like the first episode and i kind of didn't i couldn't get into it and this was at the sort of maximal hype of that show so maybe i just went in expecting it to like people were just like i cannot believe Mm-hmm.

00:55:00 - 00:55:05 | Speaker 1:

this on netflix and i watched it i was just kind of i don't know i wasn't i wasn't that blown away

00:55:05 - 00:55:19 | Speaker 2:

i maybe i needed to give it more time did you watch it i didn't i was too scared to i mean i'm not really into scary things i don't watch that much tv so it's not like i've got this huge hole i'm trying to fill and people said oh yeah it's really creepy i'm like oh okay i'm not i don't

00:55:19 - 00:56:34 | Speaker 1:

want to watch something really creepy but i heard i didn't quite get to the creepiness part now okay so just to wrap this up will ferrell is now zombified and he's driving one of these evs with the zombie who bit him is now in the passenger seat least they can do oh by the way this is the other thing they keep saying it comes up like three times in the commercial he keeps saying it's the least they can do oh is that a line from one of the shows i don't know i don't i'm that was kind of what confused me like it sounds like he's saying like it's the least that netflix can do to put some evs in their movies but it's like this is an ad for netflix but it sounds like he's basically saying like we'll just take a listen why not make more of those cars electric it's the least they could do gordon you kill me i mean you literally did kill me you know what i'm glad you bit me too so it's like let's give evs the stage they deserve and then it's like co-branded uh gm and netflix i it's such an odd thing for them to be for them to be promoting that hard i mean i think the idea of having more evs is a great one don't get me wrong but isn't that it's striking is kind of an interesting thing for them to be spending their

00:56:34 - 00:57:18 | Speaker 2:

super bowl capital on very strange in fact genevieve and during our last during our last after these messages episode um you know we we divide we created some categories for the bully awards as we call them we put a lot of effort into the branding um uh until it's like kind of like best use of celebrity and best payoff worst payoff like whatever we have these different categories and i think genevieve suggested this year adding um strangest crossover or maybe best crossover or most interesting but like this idea of brands like putting their efforts together in some way and and my blinking on words um but like this seems like a very strange crossover ad to me

00:57:18 - 00:57:47 | Speaker 1:

This is a perfect example of like how did they end up with this right because I guess what what they want to do is raise awareness that this is how they're trying to get I guess sort of some good reputational work done for both for Netflix for putting these in the movie but then he keeps saying it's the least they can do which kind of sounds like a mild burn like God Netflix could you do anything to help the planet this is like literally the least you could do like it's a weird messaging.

00:57:47 - 00:57:52 | Speaker 2:

The fact that he came back to it doesn't make me feel I was just Googling that term to see if we're missing a joke.

00:57:52 - 00:57:58 | Speaker 1:

Doesn't that feel like the fact that he says if you type in what's the least you can do and you get back a picture of TBTL, I quit.

00:57:59 - 00:58:18 | Speaker 2:

It says the bullies. Yeah, so I'm trying to figure that out, too, that definitely the fact that he says it again when he said at the beginning. And again, I'm just hearing this for the first time now when he said at the beginning, it didn't strike me as anything. But then it didn't look like anything to me. but then you're right he says the same exact line twice which makes me think like that must be

00:58:18 - 00:58:55 | Speaker 1:

some sort of a joke that i'm not getting i don't know nor am nor am i um again i love will farrell i think the commercial was sort of fine and cute but i was just confused about the exactly what the you know what what they were trying to get us to do like i guess watch more netflix because we feel like netflix is being better to the planet i and also but i will tell you this the evs all look pretty dope like i you know i am like very intrigued i'm not going to do it for a while because i still have a lease on my gas guzzler but um uh eventually of course i want to get an ev i hope we're all driving those someday and they've certainly looked the cars look kind of cool or the

00:58:55 - 00:59:40 | Speaker 2:

trucks or whatever well speaking of i mean one of my favorites and maybe it's because the shit the the super bowl was kind of winding down and maybe we thought we'd seen all the stuff that was going to make an impression um i actually really boy for such an ugly product i actually liked the dodge ram premature electrification uh i did not see that one oh really so okay so the joke counting my money on draft okay here let me see if i can find this in this list that we're working off of um because i mean listen the joke is the joke it's not it's not mind-blowing it's basically it's a bunch of people talking about trying to switch to electric vehicles but worrying that That the performance isn't going to be there and drawing comparisons to erectile dysfunction or boner pills.

00:59:41 - 00:59:44 | Speaker 1:

That usually is the kind of thing I would say. Oh, you said boner pills, aren't you?

00:59:44 - 01:00:00 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, so anyway, so here's the commercial. Like, it's one of those things where I don't know if you can watch along, Luke, on your end with the sound down. But it's like one of those things where it's like, okay, that's the joke. Is that a joke that is going to blow my mind? Not necessarily, but I just thought it was well acted, well edited.

01:00:00 - 01:00:09 | Speaker 4:

edited especially when you start to get to the reactions of the couples you'll hear a spokesperson he's walking through a field somewhere hiking he's talking about i'm sorry i just was i didn't

01:00:09 - 01:00:29 | Speaker 5:

know what to look for because you said that what the terminology was but then i forgot it so i just googled electric truck boner uh-huh i was just trying to find the ad on the fly and it's just like some the first thing so some news story boner in wyoming tries to stick it to california with ev ban i don't even know what that story is about but what am i googling here well isn't that i I want to watch this while you're playing.

01:00:29 - 01:00:40 | Speaker 4:

In that sheet that I sent you, that CBS sheet that lists all of them, if you search in the page for RAM truck, this should be the one that popped. Do you know the search in the page?

01:00:40 - 01:00:41 | Speaker 5:

Can you search in the page?

01:00:41 - 01:00:48 | Speaker 4:

I don't know. It's Control-F on my computer. What am I doing? I don't know. Just look for RAM trucks. Okay, cool. I didn't know.

01:00:48 - 01:00:50 | Speaker 5:

Andrew, I just learned something.

01:00:50 - 01:00:59 | Speaker 4:

You just learned something. And in me doing that, did I just lose the goddamn thing? I cannot believe this. In me looking for that I've now lost it on my page

01:00:59 - 01:01:10 | Speaker 5:

Oh by the way that's Jason Jones Formerly of the Daily Show I believe that's Samantha Bee's husband The guy kind of in the Wilderness I can play it from here

01:01:10 - 01:01:36 | Speaker 4:

So let me just set this up for people who haven't seen it Why don't you play it from there So you have this fella He's walking through the field He's a spokesperson And he's going to be talking about the issues Of premature electrification But then the funny stuff is Then you start to see these couples Right. And they're talking clearly about the men's performance, but it's about the performance of trucks and why they're worried about going to electric vehicles. OK, tell me if you want me to pause. Go ahead.

01:01:36 - 01:01:50 | Speaker 3:

Are you excited about buying an electric vehicle, but worried that it could leave you unsatisfied? Then you could be one of many Americans concerned about premature electrification. Symptoms may include fearing.

01:01:51 - 01:02:05 | Speaker 5:

That's pretty funny how they have them pop up over that rock. Yeah, there's a lot of... The cinematography of it is kind of clever. There's great imagery, yes. It's totally like a weird surprise emergence of the spokesperson that you would never do in a normal commercial.

01:02:05 - 01:02:07 | Speaker 2:

You might not be able to last as long as you'd like.

01:02:07 - 01:02:16 | Speaker 1:

There was plenty of charge before. Sometimes it goes away. A lot of times. I've been working a lot. Being unsure if you have enough power. I've been working a lot.

01:02:16 - 01:02:21 | Speaker 5:

They're like walking on a rural road because clearly their EV ran out of power.

01:02:21 - 01:02:29 | Speaker 4:

Can you go back, though, a little bit? I just love the throwaway line when the wife concurs and he just mumbles, I've been working a lot.

01:02:30 - 01:02:32 | Speaker 2:

You might not be able to last as long as you'd like.

01:02:32 - 01:02:51 | Speaker 1:

There was plenty of charge before. Sometimes it goes away. A lot of times. I've been working a lot. Being unsure if you have enough power to handle your payload. I don't know if I got the power for this, baby. I'm adventurous. I like to go all the way. I don't want to have to question if we're even going to make it. It's a concern.

01:02:51 - 01:02:56 | Speaker 3:

lacking the confidence about getting and being able to keep a charge having to stop every time

01:02:56 - 01:03:03 | Speaker 1:

we got really excited that wouldn't work for me stop start stop start if pe premature

01:03:03 - 01:03:27 | Speaker 3:

electrification is something you're worried about go to ramrev.com and find out if the ram 1500 rev with options being designed to extend range in satisfying ways is right for you coming soon but yeah i would just but not too soon oh okay sorry i didn't mean to step on the best part let me just finish right for you coming soon but not too soon like that is that is pretty yeah it's

01:03:27 - 01:03:42 | Speaker 4:

pretty i mean again it's well executed if it weren't well executed it'd be like just one joke that is middling but i think it's really well done the guy's got a broken fishing rod just like these little nods to the symbolism in those ed commercials you know what i think is kind of

01:03:42 - 01:04:12 | Speaker 5:

interesting about all of this is uh we didn't see one ad for crypto andrew oh yeah we knew that like i mean obviously we won't but i mean last year was the super bowl of crypto right like it was the crypto bowl it was like every ad seemed like it was for like some crypt either a trading you know ftx or you name it fortune favors the bold matt damon it was just all crypto ads and it seems like this is kind of the year of well one theme was electric stuff right yeah i think

01:04:12 - 01:05:00 | Speaker 4:

that there were some that at one point were scheduled and i think that they ended up clearing the decks of all of the crypto ads this year after the ft there were still going to be one there was at one point because you know these things are planned out well in advance i'm pretty sure that i saw a story that said like that they were they're not going like it was known that there were going to be specifically none of those ads in this year's super bowl i was trying to think of a theme as well like again i think one and this might be good for people like me who think that the huge epic commercials with like a lot of star power a little bit overblown i feel like those are just becoming sort of like background noise a little bit and the ones that people are talking about are a little bit more clever like even this this again i don't i don't know if this dot this dodge ram one we just played is getting tons of attention i saw it on

01:05:00 - 01:05:44 | Speaker 3:

some top five lists and like there's no celebrities in it it's just some clever writing and this can air after the super bowl as well right as opposed to the ones that like jenny mccarthy like i love jenny mccarthy but i don't know what was going on with that huge number of jenny mccarthy trying to find a vacation place it's like the ones that are like really really splashy are becoming kind of i don't know maybe this is just wishful thinking on my part are becoming a little bit passe and people are having to get a little bit more interesting again and again to go back to the dunkin donuts one i thought that was a good example of having to be a little bit more creative with what you're doing not just bigger bigger bigger do you think they could get kevin hart to be in a super bowl commercial and you know it's funny that you say that i can only remember one draft

01:05:44 - 01:06:30 | Speaker 2:

kings he's draft kings right i mean yes that's the thing he was in this time around but i just feel like there's always a kevin hart commercial like like kevin hart is is all i mean and he seems like a nice enough guy and guy certainly has been incredibly prolific and hard worker over his career he has manifested this thing for himself but i just feel like maybe just because he's in whatever those like i don't know if they're the what's in your wallet he's in some other series of ads that are like um you know for some credit card company and it's just always him popping up and i feel like other famous people i feel like kevin hart is one of the most like whoever his management is they're most he's one of the most frequent people who's just in a commercial that just has like 30 famous people it's like all of a sudden amy schumer walks out from somewhere and then patrick mahone it's just like oh you know what i think you're thinking of

01:06:30 - 01:06:39 | Speaker 3:

too you're thinking of those serious house commercials is it serious house or um whatever that yeah satellite is serious now right serious xm or whatever there were these i don't think i

01:06:39 - 01:06:43 | Speaker 2:

even know what those commercials are they're chock-a-block with celebrities who have any

01:06:43 - 01:06:57 | Speaker 3:

kind of a show or podcast or whatever and i believe brett farve isn't the the it's kind of like the heisman house where all of these super famous people all live together and they share one bathroom for some reason and it's just like you know i just feel like kevin hart is always in

01:06:57 - 01:07:24 | Speaker 2:

a commercial where he's being really energetic and there's like anybody's he's got he's always with like a bunch of other famous people but he's kind of the butt of the joke i don't know it's just like a very kevin hart archetypal commercial now that i feel like i've probably seen enough of in my life and i say that as a person who thinks kevin hart is a force for good in the world like i'm glad kevin hart exists now i would say my favorite and i know that'll be a relief to kevin heart to hear i think my favorite commercial of the whole thing was the adam driver squarespace

01:07:24 - 01:07:35 | Speaker 3:

oh good planks i didn't get to hear that one either that was another one where i think i literally tried to shush people at one point and i it's pretty weird i do not know if the audio

01:07:35 - 01:08:16 | Speaker 2:

is going to work but the premise as far as i can tell is that adam driver is having his mind blown by the idea that Squarespace is a website that makes websites. So he's just like falling into this sort of Matrix-esque kind of rabbit hole of thought where there's like multiple different versions of Adam Driver. Like it's a very visual ad, right? Because he's sitting in a very kind of austere office thinking about Squarespace being a website where you can build a website. And then he just starts to go into all these different like film tricks of like multiple versions of his head. and he's like, it's a very abstract commercial, but there's one little thing at the end that literally made me LOL. So just take a listen to this.

01:08:19 - 01:08:33 | Speaker 1:

Squarespace is a website that makes websites. Now he's walking in the desert. Meaning it could create itself. Websites. Making websites.

01:08:33 - 01:09:07 | Speaker 2:

Now more Adam drivers are popping out. There's like an army of Adam drivers now in like a black suit. now all the adam drivers are being sucked into like a some kind of weird sun that's been created by the singularity you did it adam driver all of the adam drivers yelling you did it adam driver it's really weird i kind of was into it though i you know what i'm really yeah and i was watching

01:09:07 - 01:09:27 | Speaker 3:

along here while you were talking i had all i knew was it was adam driver and had something to do with square space but that pays off actually i love knowing what that's about and i love how weird that is and speaking of weird and speaking of rabbit holes you just reminded me that was one of my favorites did you watch the tubi commercial with about rabbit holes no okay you know about

01:09:27 - 01:09:34 | Speaker 2:

tubi right who doesn't sometimes my tv will get try to get stuck on tubi right it's a channel right

01:09:34 - 01:09:59 | Speaker 3:

2B is great it's like this free streaming service that like our smart TV just sort of came with it and like there's all kinds of like and it's there's all kinds of like kind of streaming old movies on there there's like reality shows there's all kind of stuff but it's like some of it's on demand but also it gives you the sense of being able to flip through live TV even though it's like you know it's not premium TV it's just like whatever they can afford but it's anyway I'm.

01:10:00 - 01:10:57 | Speaker 2:

kind of a fan of Tubi, but did you see this commercial at all? Did you see the imagery? So I don't know if you I'll play the audio for my, but you're watching it. Okay, so you see somebody behind her computer and then and you see sort of like darkened shots of everyday life, if I'm remembering this correctly. Yes, you are. But then you start to see these scary ominous like rabbit ears around as if Very Donnie Darko. Very Donnie Darko, like people dressed up in sort of dingy big ass rabbit costumes and then they start digging holes and throwing people down the holes it is kind of terrifying you see images of these rabbits like the shadows of the rabbits being cast across people as like they're grabbing people from schools and workplaces and throwing them over their shoulder and dragging them to these holes and then throwing people into these holes and then it says find your rabbit hole on Tubi or something along the lines of that

01:10:57 - 01:11:25 | Speaker 1:

i think it's a really clever idea and i now i've watched the whole ad and i like the execution the only not that i always have to nitpick but the only thing i would say is it's an interesting turn for the rabbit hole to be a positive because the rabbits are very menacing exactly yeah like i thought it was going to be some kind of i thought it was going to be an anti-rabbit hole commercial but they're once they're in the hole it's actually they love it they really enjoy it down there yeah i didn't i didn't see that coming i guess i guess i'll give them points on that yeah

01:11:25 - 01:12:35 | Speaker 2:

I think that that's I think that that is the the feature not the bug because like it had my attention like what the hell is going on like it was pretty goddamn terrifying you see these rabbits like and they're all like again like kind of mascot size rabbits but they're like gray and they're like a little matted and they're like literally dragging people out of their homes or carrying them fireman style over their shoulders taking them in these holes and then they throw them down the hole and then all of a sudden there's a bunch of screens down there and people start to smile as they're going down this rabbit hole like it really it caught my attention later on in the Super Bowl and I didn't get to hear it if there was anything to hear but I saw an image later on of just a giant carrot in the woods with a big bite out of it so apparently later on in the Super Bowl they they brought back some of this terrifying imagery and again I when I saw that it was to to uh to be right yeah I let out a yelp because I also really love the product anyway but And I really love, again, I think that you have to do something special to grab our attention because if you just see a celebrity dancing through fields or even Will Ferrell driving through Squid Game, like I just don't think that that shuts up a room anymore.

01:12:36 - 01:13:23 | Speaker 1:

My association with Tubi is that there was like four days where I couldn't figure out how to get my TV off of it. It was very mad. Four days is an exaggeration. But there was definitely a full day where it had to do with like input, you know, or something. and like one day i turned my tv on and it had just been on it was on tubi i hadn't put it on there but i couldn't get it off of tubi and get back to my like what i wanted to watch like because you know our tvs most of them if it's smart tv it's a computer and i basically had to call lg and their advice was as you might imagine unplug the tv and plug it back in but it was it was like it got stuck on tubi and nothing was even playing it was on like the landing screen of tubi so this is good that i've i'm there's some repair going on with my relationship with tubi because before this i've always just thought that was that thing that was a big pain in my ass one time

01:13:23 - 01:13:58 | Speaker 2:

i had heard that the there was going to be a little breaking bad reunion for this i think they're called pop corners some sort of popcorn snack um and that did not impress me much as we like to say i'm like okay whatever like that's fine i loved that show but so you're brad pitt um yeah um so you're impressed so you're aaron paul that don't impress me much um so anyway i was like okay that you know that's fine i don't think i'm gonna love it or hate it i gotta say i ended up really liking it and i know you didn't watch as much breaking bad but man oh no i watched a lot of it oh you did i thought you did not but anyway i i i they nailed it when tuco is like

01:13:58 - 01:14:17 | Speaker 1:

that's what i was gonna say yeah dude i have my notes here um breaking bad pop corners tuco yelling was really funny yes like yeah the anger that tuco was bringing to it i i honestly thought that the beginning part is like it's fine it's kind of what you expect they're doing their characters except instead of meth it's this other thing but the tuco yelling about how many different

01:14:17 - 01:14:43 | Speaker 2:

flavor varieties they're going to be yeah and also like and i'm pretty sure he's i'm gonna actually hit play and i'll play this whole thing if you don't mind but i think like tuco like he eats one of them and he has the reaction that he used to have when he was sampling the meth which is like right i think he's saying but it's like it's really dark during a super bowl to like show somebody having like reaction to doing hard ass drugs in the desert it's like they're cooking

01:14:43 - 01:14:55 | Speaker 1:

they're in the desert cooking it just happens to be a chip but the if you know what the reference is it's a reference to something that has ruined lives in this country i'm glad they went so i i

01:14:55 - 01:15:01 | Speaker 2:

clearly the commercials that stuck with me the most were kind of dark or or like the

01:15:00 - 01:15:12 | Speaker 4:

The ED one, the fake ED one, the rabbit one, this one. That's dark if you've been through it. Yeah, right. And that one wasn't dark, but kind of pushing the boundaries a little bit. And I don't know if you know this about me. I'm not like some sort of a shock jock, but.

01:15:17 - 01:15:50 | Speaker 3:

Yo, these are the bomb. And they're air popped, not fried. Popcorners. You're an artist. Actually, Jesse, it's just basic ingredients. No, we don't eat our own supply. Mr. White! Jesse. Everyone's going to want a taste. And I know just the guy to talk to. So they're on the desert. Here's Tuco. What are these? We call them Popcorners. Say their name. Popcorners. He tries it.

01:15:52 - 01:15:56 | Speaker 2:

Tight! Tight! Tight! Yeah! How much of this stuff do you have?

01:15:56 - 01:15:58 | Speaker 3:

We've got six signature flavors, y'all.

01:15:58 - 01:15:58 | Speaker 2:

Seven!

01:15:59 - 01:16:02 | Speaker 3:

You make seven! Seven orcs.

01:16:03 - 01:16:11 | Speaker 4:

Again, I just think well executed. I didn't know that Tuco was going to be in it, but I knew that they were going to reprise their characters. That's not something that...

01:16:11 - 01:16:23 | Speaker 5:

Now, if they would have just sewed Mr. Peanut's face onto a soccer ball, I feel like we would have really had... Or on top of a turtle. What is it? Doesn't the guy's head end up... They put a head on a turtle. The guy's head is on a turtle that's crawling through the desert.

01:16:23 - 01:16:57 | Speaker 4:

That would have been really dark. I did think that that Mr. Peanut I was you know I'm not a big fan of the Mr. Peanut commercials either they really yeah that one a couple of years ago I think 2020 when they were supposed to have the funeral for Mr. Peanut was such a stupid stunt and let down a la the M&Ms thing but this time I guess they were advertising roasted sorry roasted peanut I guess it's planters peanut to Mr. Peanut is the is the mascot but anyway this time they had all those you you would know their names Luke I don't know any of those comedians names who are famous for doing the celebrity roasts. Yeah, like Jeff Ross is kind of a big one.

01:16:58 - 01:17:10 | Speaker 5:

But you know what's actually kind of interesting to me was Otsuko Okatsuko, who's a person that's been on Livewire and is amazing. You will be hearing that name and seeing Otsuko a lot. She's in it, which I was stoked for her.

01:17:10 - 01:17:36 | Speaker 4:

I was just going to say that I'm not a big fan of roasts, and I don't think that commercial was that good, but the very, very first joke in it was really funny. I thought they had me for a second. All of us, because it started off with them roasting Mr. Peanut. he's just sitting there you know side stage or i guess that's not side stage on the stage there's a podium somebody's uh roasting him and the very first joke is something like what have you been up to for the past 30 years other than ruining cup other than ruining brownies

01:17:36 - 01:17:41 | Speaker 5:

and i think he says i'll make it short you've got some brownies to ruin oh is that what he says yeah

01:17:41 - 01:17:54 | Speaker 4:

either way like i love that like that's actually because i first of all i don't like peanuts in my sweets either but like i was like that's actually taking a shot at the product and it seemed like somewhat universal i thought that was a really good joke and then everything after that was

01:17:54 - 01:18:02 | Speaker 5:

terrible right like that's i will say that's an edgy idea to have people making fun of your

01:18:02 - 01:18:07 | Speaker 4:

product in your super bowl ad you know yeah but then after that they just totally fizzled out

01:18:07 - 01:18:37 | Speaker 5:

so unfunny yeah of course they have to basically i'm sure that i'm sure that it was like planters was like okay we'll let you get one good joke off and then i mean can you imagine the the the different like iterative process and the amount of like you know stakeholders there were in what each specific joke ended up being you know yeah like that must have been brutal that would kill me it would kill me as a fan of comedy if i was in the ad it would make me happy as a fan of having money in my bank account yeah right which is how most of my creative process works these days

01:18:37 - 01:18:45 | Speaker 2:

here i go once again with the email every week i hope that it's from a female no man it's not from

01:18:45 - 01:19:13 | Speaker 4:

a female all right email or female yes i have an email here this is actually the culmination of an email exchange that i've uh been having recently and it involves this drop here i don't know if you can tell the stalling a little bit while i got this drop ready um so i'm going to ask you a question luke what show and maybe you know maybe this will be very anticlimactic but um What show is this drop from?

01:19:13 - 01:19:18 | Speaker 1:

It's the story of a man with a brothel of a home and a pool filled with human excrement.

01:19:19 - 01:19:35 | Speaker 4:

That would be The Last Man on Earth. That's what I thought, too. That's clearly Kristen Schaal, right? And in The Last Man on Earth, it's Will Forte. Will Forte. Andrew W. Monday. The main character.

01:19:35 - 01:19:39 | Speaker 5:

Forte is remembering his name, remembering which Will you're talking about.

01:19:39 - 01:19:46 | Speaker 4:

He plays the last man on Earth and he's staying in this, you know, in this place where he's literally got an outdoor pool that he's been using as a toilet.

01:19:47 - 01:19:59 | Speaker 5:

Yeah. Right. And yeah, because basically the world has ended and somehow a very small number of people have survived. And he's just in this mansion. It's like McMansion in like Scottsdale or something. But yeah, there's no plumbing. There's no working plumbing. So he's just crapping.

01:20:00 - 01:20:51 | Speaker 3:

the pool and i got an email i don't have i accidentally cut the person's name off i'm pretty sure it's bernie i got an email from listener i'm gonna say bernie a few weeks ago who said hey i was a little shocked when you mentioned that drop being from the yeah it is listener bernie by the way uh saying that that drop is from last man on earth because i'm you know i'm quite sure it's actually from flight of the concords concords i should say not concord it's not sorry and sorry bernie right and i was like no it's the the pool i said we even went back and forth i'm like hey man sorry i wasn't trying to gaslight you but no i'm quite sure because the character has a pool well that was i don't know three or four weeks ago today i got this email from bernie i believe the subject line was this is not a sharpshoot um here bernie says i'll start with a disclaimer let's not delve too deeply into the fact that a nearly 50 year old husband and father is quote-unquote researching drops played on his favorite podcast but here we

01:20:51 - 01:21:02 | Speaker 2:

are it is what it is i found what happened was bernie was doing living his normal life and then a rabbit came up behind exactly quietly carried him away from what he was doing he says i found

01:21:02 - 01:21:52 | Speaker 3:

the source for the drop mentioned below a story about a man something something brothel is in fact from flight of the concords it's in episode 10 of season 2 about 9 minutes and 30 seconds in this is not a sharp shoot and i definitely did not throw my phone i just wanted you to know hearing the drop made me remember how much i enjoyed flight of the concords so i bought two seasons on prime and i've been watching them over the last couple of weeks and today i finally stumbled on that scene also i think your newsletters are funny bernie is so nice to not offend me which i really appreciate i would say everybody lean into that behavior bernie's gave us a million put-ups and no put-downs just so that i would even though we were totally wrong even though i was totally wrong and you even just said there nope sorry it's listed i even saved it as um last man i have it slugged as last man in my in my files but i got to change it now can i um i'm gonna

01:21:52 - 01:22:09 | Speaker 2:

turn down my Doogie theme emails and turn up my answer, Andrew, to why we think this, because this is a different drop from Kristen Schaal, I believe from Last Man on Earth, that does reference poopy pools, but it's different. It's this one.

01:22:09 - 01:22:14 | Speaker 1:

Mr. Porn J, Ratbeard, Poopy Pool, the third.

01:22:15 - 01:22:37 | Speaker 2:

There you go. So we must have just fully... What is the context in which mel from flight of the concords is saying it's a story of a man with a uh whatever whatever you know like i that's crazy to me that that has a context within flight of the concord i'm sorry bernie i'm sorry i so confidently said you were wrong when you were right and

01:22:37 - 01:22:43 | Speaker 3:

and me too like i'm even let me go back here i said um because i was kind of gaslighting bernie

01:22:43 - 01:22:52 | Speaker 2:

i'm like i i don't uh it makes so much more sense as a thing on the last man on earth because we know he's been crapping in his pool right and we know that he dates her how could it not be from

01:22:52 - 01:23:07 | Speaker 3:

that show and i don't know how i ended up with that drop in my collection but i have slugged as last man on earth and yeah let's see back in january i was telling bernie like hey man sorry nope don't you're not going insane but yeah no that's that's definitely from last man i guarantee

01:23:07 - 01:23:16 | Speaker 2:

it and it's not this is why i lose so much money gambling because i often make bets about if something is in the last man on earth i would have bet ten thousand dollars that was from last

01:23:16 - 01:23:31 | Speaker 3:

i would have bet almost anything literally almost anything i mean the fact that i wrote back so confidently and that's what got us in trouble here is whenever i confidently respond to anything never do that i'm i'm wrong so yeah that god that is blowing my i just changed the name of the drop

01:23:31 - 01:23:44 | Speaker 2:

in so bernie okay but i will say this and this is where you're wrong bernie kristin shawl was on the cover of sports illustrated doing the michael jordan wing pose that did happen i did

01:23:44 - 01:23:53 | Speaker 3:

see with my own eyes she was also on the cover of madden one year but then she ended up having a terrible year yeah she got absolutely high ankle sprain i believe let's see what about

01:23:53 - 01:24:08 | Speaker 2:

jennifer oh go ahead i was just gonna say can i do uh please uh whatever the word is i'm looking for here present uh whatever you're going to present from jennifer and i want to say one thing before we get out of here a theory that our friend p fletch floated about something that's

01:24:08 - 01:24:46 | Speaker 3:

been happening on the show that i thought was very interesting good i'm intrigued yeah i know that you guys bumped into each other this weekend I hear but I just wanted to read this one really quickly this was a note from Jennifer that says Amy Grant news to use all this Amy Grant talk recently made me look something up that I had heard a long time ago it seems to be true that the song Baby Baby was written about her six week year old daughter Millie. Very true. I think Walter and Susie O'Luke and especially Amy an apology now let's see if we can get her a retroactive dove award I guess that apology being that like we that you your family believe that that song was a departure from the sacred songs

01:24:46 - 01:25:17 | Speaker 2:

of Amy Grant and into the second El Shaddai El Shaddai Adonana I do I do Adonai age to age are still the same etc etc I think probably I mean yes they owe me they owe me an apology for so many things but i think their thought was oh this is playing on commercial radio like just it wasn't like they didn't even take the time to like figure out who the song was about or whatever they just knew that suddenly amy grant was being played on pop radio not just on christian radio and so that represented

01:25:17 - 01:25:34 | Speaker 3:

her becoming quote-unquote worldly so yeah it wasn't even like the fact that it was she was singing about her little daughter it wasn't like a song it wasn't a romantic song that couldn't be Yeah, right, but still, though, it's not It still didn't fly Because it was still top 40 pop music

01:25:34 - 01:26:23 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was sort of guilt by association Sure You know, for old Amy Grant So, yes, I will You know what? Next time I see my parents Which I think is going to be next weekend It's my mom's birthday and my sister Hannah's birthday And they're coming down to Portland We're all going to hang out I am going to start the birthday festivities By demanding an apology from them over not letting us listen to Amy Grant, Baby, Baby. I love it. And I'm going to make them play the entire song while we sit quietly and listen to it together. That's good. I think you should bring an actual, like some sort of a boom box, set it up on the table and hit play, preferably on a cassette. This is the thing that our friend P. Fletch, let's see here. You know, maybe this is just a DM between me and Phyllis because I'm trying to find a, I'm finding a chain that you and I were on with Phyllis, but I don't think it references this.

01:26:23 - 01:26:25 | Speaker 3:

No, I don't think this is news to me.

01:26:25 - 01:27:43 | Speaker 2:

i think uh so you know i've been obsessed with this audio for some reason i've been playing it to introduce you to introduce me lots of luck in your senior year which was this thing that joe biden said during the state of the union and we were trying to figure out what exactly he meant tamara keith did a really nice piece on the morning edition about it and phyllis said let's see if i can actually i have so many text chains going with phyllis i'm gonna have to just paraphrase because i can't find the exact thing but what phyllis said was she thinks that what that means is if your high school coach you're a junior and your high school coach says lots of luck senior year you're cut like oh because think about the timing you're a junior so that's the coach saying yeah we're just you're not really we're not you're not invited back senior year like we don't need you like you're not like it's not can't wait to have you in the starring role on the team senior year it's kind of saying well good luck um uh so that was interesting i thought i hadn't thought of it that way but it's basically just saying like yeah sorry bud you're out of luck essentially i mean which would make sense in the context of him asking for money from people like you know political donors and them not giving it and them saying lots of luck senior year it's kind of like a way of saying yeah uh this ain't happening well genevieve she was telling her about our

01:27:43 - 01:28:15 | Speaker 3:

conversation and she was frustrated she's like it just means bye felicia it just means bye felicia just like you're we're done here like it's as simple as that but i just sort of i think that the mystery came from this idea that he treats it like an idiom that nobody's heard of you know i mean i think that's what i mean i don't think anybody except for the one guy who was who was quoted in that art in in tamara's piece who i think that he was a little bit wrong he threw in an extra layer that i think was somewhat misguided an old classmate of joe biden's he thought it

01:28:15 - 01:28:21 | Speaker 1:

meant it's a gentle rebuke put it that way good luck in your senior year if you get there in

01:28:21 - 01:28:33 | Speaker 3:

other words oh yeah if you get there i think that's i think that's wrong but i just think it's a mean you know i don't think it's just a way of shutting you down saying all right we're done here bye felicia whatever but the i think that the mystery was like do people say this

01:28:33 - 01:29:19 | Speaker 2:

well there that was a mystery to me but also what was what joe biden was actually trying to say more sort of factually with it because if all he was trying to say was good luck then he would just say like my high school coach once said to me good luck with that like there was something to me kind of narrative about it or like there was a there was a piece of information that was supposedly being revealed in that specific statement and what phyllis is proposing to me makes a lot of sense which is as my high school coach said when i was a junior lots of luck senior year like i didn't understand what the again it wasn't just by i mean it means by felicia but it was more complex than that to me right because there's like characters and someone's a junior someone's a high school coach we're referring to the next year it was there was so much complexity

01:29:19 - 01:30:04 | Speaker 3:

in it for it just to mean by felicia the weird thing though is the art the the story the radio story by tamra goes back and uses you know plays other examples of him using that phrase and it's not until the last one i think that he invokes the idea of a coach i'm not saying that it's wrong but like he's clearly used it at times when he's not setting it up as something that came from a coach it doesn't mean that it didn't but like he also clearly and again i just think we're maybe talking past each other because we're just arguing different things but like to me the mystery was kind of like he's just using this without context as if everybody knows what it means and has heard it before whereas i feel like you can get from the context of what he's saying in every case. basically what he means which is you know again we're done here or whatever but like the the

01:30:04 - 01:30:26 | Speaker 4:

origin of it is what seemed more confusing well i was very curious about that the idea that joe brandon is just making up idioms and and thinking that we all know them and i loved the the like level of reporting that tamara got to to prove that it certainly wasn't a thing anyone remembered being said at that school that he was at but i mean not that we have to like re litigate this whole thing but let's just play the examples to just refresh our memories because i actually

01:30:26 - 01:30:43 | Speaker 1:

don't fully remember what this part sounded like. So it turns out this phrase isn't a new one for Biden. Back in the 1990s, he used to tell the story of meeting Slobodan Milosevic, the Serbian leader responsible for ethnic cleansing in the Balkans. He asked me what I thought of him. I

01:30:43 - 01:30:48 | Speaker 2:

told him then I thought he was a damn war criminal and should be tried as such. He looked at me like

01:30:48 - 01:31:32 | Speaker 4:

I said, lots of luck in your senior year. Wow. OK, so that's that's interesting. You're totally right andrew like that does not necessarily convey i mean i don't even know what that's supposed to mean you got a war criminal looking at you like you told him lots of luck in your senior year yeah is it possible that what he means by it is just i'm just gonna shoot you straight i'm just telling you i'm telling it like it is like you know i told you you're a damn war criminal and i he looked at me like i just told i don't know that's again the stakes are very high when you're talking about genocide i don't know why lots of luck in your senior year is that seems like a way too low-key example of something like those those those worlds really shouldn't collide

01:31:32 - 01:32:19 | Speaker 3:

right yeah i mean it is again you're talking to a guy me luke i'm the guy here okay you're the guy in this says things all the time that's sort of like i can either not think of a cliche or an idiom or i mangle it or sometimes i just say something that i think is an idiom that totally isn't and i i don't know if i made it up a long time ago or on the spot like this is something that my brain does at times and so i sort of feel like i mean it might have been from his coach or somebody in his life i will just go with coach because he later on says that but like he heard it and like he might have just heard it in an age where somebody was just saying something to him but it sounded like an idiom so he always assumed it was you know what i mean and it also seems to

01:32:19 - 01:33:23 | Speaker 4:

throws it around but i also seems to me like it's a little bit malleable for him like it can kind of mean a few things like i can't find a consistency to what he's really trying to express other than if we're just saying bye felicia but like it's also sounds to me like he kind of uses it sometimes in different slightly different context as just filler or something it's just like i don't know it's but uh i thought it was an interesting theory that phyllis put forward so i just wanted to mention that in the email segment yes um and say that that probably is going to bring us to the end of this episode but as you know if you're a regular listener to the program you know we'll be right back here tomorrow with another edition of tbtl so we do hope you can join us for that in the meantime have yourself a great monday we all make it through this sports drought that we're now in no more football baseball hasn't started yet i guess if you've got nba teams you've maybe got something or wnba teams but actually wnba doesn't start i think they play a little later than the nba but it's bleak here in portland andrew it's bleak sports

01:33:23 - 01:33:36 | Speaker 3:

time i don't really know how to entertain myself well as you saw the commercials uh during the super bowl the um what is it to be rabbit hole the us nft football league starts next sunday

01:33:36 - 01:33:42 | Speaker 4:

usfl the usfl starts next sunday and i say to that andrew lots of luck senior year and uh when

01:33:42 - 01:33:58 | Speaker 3:

does the XFL start by the way we have Josh Gordon is in Seattle playing football again did you see that no I didn't yes no he's a sea dragon or whatever you call the Seattle X that Josh Gordon

01:33:58 - 01:34:05 | Speaker 4:

we love it we just can't quit him as they say alright we'll see you tomorrow until then have a great Monday and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

01:34:12 - 01:34:48 | Speaker 5:

We'll be right back. miles per gallon i can buy a lot of tacos oh i hate you if you want we can check out the car a

01:34:48 - 01:34:52 | Speaker 3:

little more no thanks not interested we've all seen a car before you want to check it out yeah

01:34:52 - 01:34:59 | Speaker 5:

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01:35:00 - 01:35:04 | Speaker 1:

show up. So, like an auxiliary port? Power out.

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