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Well, I just think I'd feel much better about it if we could lock down a great representation visually of what my brand is. Okay, so how exactly would you describe your brand? Like aesthetically or cinematographically, if that's a word. It's not. I feel like it's everything you loved about the classic movies of our childhood, like Sandlot, Billy Madison, Apocalypse Now, Happy Gilmore, Clueless. But at the same time, I feel like my brand is not rooted in the past. It's actually very forward thinking and like futuristic. It's like, imagine, like, what 2090 is like, but, like, it's being described by someone who's from 1920.

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It's Friday. Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend.

So I'm what's known as a psychic medium, but I'm also clairsentient, which means that I feel my angels. I'm also clairvoyant, which means I can see. I'm also clairaudient, which is most of the time I actually hear. I hear voices, and I also do financial advising.

I'm not handling this well. I don't feel competent. I'm depressed.

It's kind of weird. I feel like I'm being interrogated, but by someone who doesn't really want to know anything important.

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everybody. To a Friday edition of TBTL The show that just might be Too beautiful to live

My name is Luke Burbank

I'm your host

Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center

Right here in Portland, Oregon Where I am only Only here for a limited time Because right when we're done I'm going to be jumping in the car And heading on down to Eugene, Oregon In the Holt Center for the Performing Arts I plan on performing some arts there tonight. You want showmanship? You got it. We'll be doing the Livewire show down there. Maybe we'll see some tens. Looks like we're going to have a pretty good turnout tonight. So that'll be fun. This is going to be fun, too, of course, because it's episode 3883 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. We meant to talk about this yesterday. We ran out of time. The federal highway folks. I'm an excellent driver. are not particularly pleased with state highway folks that like to put little jokes and Taylor Swift references into those reader boards, those digital signs.

And I have been laughing the whole time.

Speaking of cars, the Hyundai Corporation. Is there a car that I feel like people have a more difficult time, correctly pronouncing the name of it's a hyundai it's not that complicated but just look for this in your in your normal life listen for how many times people just struggle with saying hyundai they might say hyundai or hondai anyway the hyundai corporate they have bigger problems than people mispronouncing their name uh apparently you can steal certain hyundais by just, like, taking part of the steering column off and plugging a USB, some kind of USB product into it. People are seeing this on TikTok.

People of TikTok.

Hyundai says that they're going to offer a software patch to fix this, and if your car can't handle a software patch, they're going to give you a steering column lock? Is it like the club or something? Anyway, we'll talk about that, too. uh and we will talk to this guy the longest running cobro of the show maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ship i just want you to be normal and clearly you're not he is andrew welsh and he's joining me right now good morning my friend i do sometimes

struggle to say that there is a y in that word that we don't pronounce but i proudly can pronounce

volkswagen so there well yeah sure there i'm more but see the thing is i'm cool because i like i i'm like an indie band i mispronounce words that other people don't have a hard time with because

they're spelled how they sound because i'm cool i'm cool i felt a little attacked there i have

problems with cars i wasn't thinking of you by the way when i said no i know you wouldn't said

it if you were i i have problems with cars all around though like i'm i'm car blind all cars kind of look alike to me all cars matter that is not all cars i'm gonna align myself with all the good movements um yeah exactly so i struggle with car talk generally speaking which is maybe why i

didn't get that job at car talk uh-huh yeah i think the fact that you couldn't you couldn't even come up with one example of a car in the interview i believe i said you know the one with

the two wheels and you pedal it they're like dude you are a waste

wasting our time i told you about the time i was interviewing for a job at wbur and i had just it was like kind of a casual interview and we were having lunch in the actual wbur lunchroom and the car talk guys were in there i mean this is you know 15 20 years ago or something um and it was just nice to hear them to hear their laugh irl kind of bellowing from across the from across the cafeteria it was a nice sound to be in the presence of oh yeah i loved that show and in fact

In fact, I reference it a lot when I'm talking about how more modern, I guess you would say, public radio programming, particularly from NPR, is created. I'm sure I've given this example right here on TBTL, but like if Car Talk was sort of this really popular show, but on paper it kind of made no sense. Like it's a car advice show, but they're barely going to dole out any advice. They're mostly just going to laugh at each other's jokes and then do, like, a 12-minute credit package at the end talking about Dewey, Cheatham, and Hal. And yet it was wildly popular. And I would always say that if NPR was creating an automotive show now, they would never say, let's just have two brothers cracking each other up.

Luke, it would be about storytelling.

I really consider myself a storyteller, Andrew. it'd be like we need somebody in detroit we need somebody in japan we need like you know it would just be constructed in a way that honestly was more i guess you would say logical but i just love the kind of the um you know the magic the fairy dust if you will of a show like car talk which shouldn't be popular but was wildly popular and was really fun to listen to i will not give

away too many details um but i was texting with a friend of mine who is employed in public radio i don't think i don't know if you know this person directly luke but i think you know of them but they're a well-positioned person in public radio in fact and they were texting me yesterday about something and we we somehow slipped into a little bit of um teasing about public radio in fact i think he reached out to me because they were joking in a meeting something about some old joke about public radio about like do it two days late and call it analysis or something which i don't even think is really a fair assessment of when what npr does these days but that was kind

of like no i'd like them to go back to that exactly right like honestly like now i mean i they've definitely caught up i think on the sort of like newsiness of things and being you know on the story they certainly have gotten that under control and he and he wrote something back and

again not identifying this person so i think it's okay to say it and he was like again gently ribbing I mean, he loves public radio, he works in it, but he wrote something back, kind of like, now it's all about, like, storytelling, or just booking a reporter from a local newspaper or something, and I wrote back, and I will mention to you that I responded in three texts, and you ever do that? You don't hear back on the first one, and then you just keep going, and then you're just like, okay, this person is disengaged. Yeah, and I think three is about the limit.

Yeah. Three is when you start to just feel, I start to feel really embarrassed for myself.

Yeah, I know.

I think if I realize I've sent three unresponded to texts in rapid succession, I'm like, okay, calm down, Burbs.

For me, I knew I was going to be sending two. I knew it was going to be a twofer, and then I tried to soften things up with a third, like a two minutes later or whatever, and I never heard back. But it was too long. I just wrote back. I said, I know it's not a popular opinion, but some of my absolute favorite public radio moments come from a host talking to a reporter in a newspaper. I've worked with hosts who kind of look down at that. They think it's like cheating. But if it's enjoyable to listen to And if it informs the public why not I think it's kind of an ego thing for hosts who don't want To do that that I didn't hear back Oh I said The hosts want to put their own stank on it And then I didn't hear anything back and then Two minutes later I wrote back although I don't Think I worked with any host to use the word Stank which I guess you'd Be the exception to that Luke but anyway I did not Hear back from this person I assume we disagree on This but like I don't know I just And this is going to be something that you've heard me say a million times and the listeners have heard me say a half a million times but i just have been through public radio various stages of my public radio career enough to know that everybody wants to whenever they're starting a new show they want to reinvent the genre whatever the genre is we want to reinvent the time slot we want to reinvent public radio we always need more tape more tape is always the answer getting out in the field is always more the answer i just don't think that's true i think having a really good host sitting in a chair who can talk to people whether they're local reporters or literally call in literally listeners like be informative hold yourself to a good journalistic standard don't just take what the newspaper reporter is giving you but like the idea that like it's we public radio isn't good when they're talking to newspaper reporters or that we're somehow failing i just don't agree with that i think it can be incredible content yeah of course and it's a service too because a lot of

people will not have had the time

Thank you.

to read the article and so getting to sort of get the most uh i guess important points from it in a way that's easily digested as you're doing something else you know driving to pick your kids up from soccer or something there's uh i think there's a value in that and that's you know i don't read every article that comes out but but if i hear a talented and informed host doing an interview with someone about that then you know there's like i said that's helpful for me in my day what what i think they need to focus on more though is just reading press releases from the institute for justice cold on the air that's i think that's how you really redefine the genre yeah you know what and then over the course of reading it become more furious about the institute

for justice and then as soon as you're done doing that abortion of a segment then get on your high horse with a public radio executive about your thoughts on good journalistic standards you're

But we're not journalists. That's the thing. Speaking of text chains, Andrew, my mother has really upped her Hawk Squad game this morning.

I'll say, what's up, dog?

Today is my daughter's actual birthday. And as is the tradition in my family, it's kind of a competition to be the first person who throws out a happy birthday on the Hawk Squad text chain. Because pretty much almost everyone in the family is on this thing right now. And so, you know, everybody was wishing Addie a happy birthday. I included a picture of her and I on Segway scooters, possibly the nerdiest I have ever looked in my life. Same with Addie. That's my brand of parenting is to just basically kind of gently rib her on her birthday on the text chain. But my mom, you know, always wants to up the ante. And she sort of wasn't one of the first people to get on the chain. so she had to add value in her own way, which was a poem that she wrote for my daughter. 29, girl, you are fine, and I'm so happy you are mine. Granddaughter, that is. Happy birthday, darling. Now that, my friend, is poetry.

I also sent that poem to Adelaide. Is that a problem for anybody?

I responded, mom, are you hitting on my daughter? 29 Girl you are fine and I'm so happy You are mine but then This is what's great she just clarifies Granddaughter that is Happy birthday darling I said mom are you trying to hit on my daughter And my mom said I knew There would be a comment from you Luke That's why I clarified Smiley face

Do you think that she got that poem From the internet is that the you type in like well if you google wedding granddaughter man speech granddaughter granddaughter poem for

29th birthday it's the first thing that comes up yeah wow well it does rhyme my mom might be unintentionally the funniest person that i know i mean that well in all seriousness we should have

her on the show again not to make fun of her but just because she is charismatic and fun on the

show she really is like uh you know i i think i give her a fair amount of grief on on this show I talk about you know just things From my childhood or whatever where it's like It was quirky or you know My mom again my mom is a real character But man I really Don't think there's anybody who makes me laugh More than she does and has no She has no idea how or why she's doing It although

I mean she did recognize The fact that you were going to be coming in hot with With a wink With a wink on that text chain So she was trying to get in front of it

Yeah what rhymes with what do you turning next 47 what rhymes with 47 i'm gonna write seven seven's a tough one i mean you got

heaven heaven you can get heaven heaven um wasn't there it was there a um seahawks coach named blevins or am i uh thinking of somebody else that sounds kind of familiar i think 47 hosting this

show with you is heaven and i'm so happy you're mine co-host that is that's happy birthday darlin

How about I'm so glad your name isn't Kevin Because you have a lot of other friends named Kevin So many Kevins

Too many Kevins When I'm telling Becca a story She's like which Kevin is this There was a period of time Where almost every boy being born Was named Kevin And now I feel like there are no Kevins Do you know anyone with a child under the age of 5 Who's named Kevin

That's a good point No no I think names are in a pretty good spot right now pretty creative fun names like don't you have a um do you have a little one in your life whose name is like Owen like Owen is a good name I feel like there's a lot of I feel like we read

an Owen message oh yeah yeah yesterday I think there was I like the name Owen a lot yeah I will tell you that some of

the i i this is such incredibly thin ice to go out on because i don't i cannot use any specific examples because there's some listener and this is their kid's name and i do not want to alienate them but there are some there are some names that have gotten popular that are like brinley and like these kind of lakin and these kind of i don't know these these nouveau names that i'm not like wild about but i don't know why because kevin wasn't a name at some point and now it's a name and i'm fine with in fact many of my best friends are named kevin that is true too many of your best friends are named kevin you know what i mean it's like when when somebody's got uh a kid in there they've given them a name and it's a certain kind of it's a certain kind of white family with like a lot of instagram pictures where people are wearing very broad hat very wide circular brimmed hats and are in you know like there's just a certain kind of vibe where you're gonna get a lakin or a brinley or something and you know what it's just new to me so it strikes me as a little odd but again there was a period of time when every name did not exist and now they exist and just because i'm using it's sort of why i'm suspicious of scientology as sarah silverman says if if your religion is new enough that the founder is named ron you've got problems that's a really good i don't mean to alienate our scientology listeners but you know it's like there's nothing inherently weirder about scientology to me than any other major religion in terms of the the dogma do you think it's do you feel like scientology is objectively weirder than christianity

in terms of the um the narrative or whatever you're okay you're sticking to dogma teachings okay that's fine the way that they treat people that are within their realm is obviously very problematic like well sure like for instance no one's seen the life of the main dude for 25 years exactly that's what i mean so yeah i mean i do think that i don't go in for uh organized religion generally speaking but i would say that yeah um the ones where people go missing and aren't allowed to uh contact their family members who haven't converted are are worse but you know the dogma wise like it all seems like magic we're just used to we're just used to the stories that have been been around longer i want to i want to mention a couple of names that i love and i don't think i know anybody in my friend circle i think who have these names but for kids like i if genevieve and i had a kid i think genevieve felt the same way if we ever had a daughter um we'd name her ramona i think that's a great name i love the name ramona i'm a fan of those old-timey names which

are also making a comeback you know that was a big like you know hazel and like ramona and Charlie is a big one A lot of kids named Charlie now Which there were no Charlies when I was Growing up I knew zero Charlies and then I think Charlie's a really cute name too like I like those kind of older names

Simon is a big one for me I feel like there might be somebody in my life with A kid named Simon I love the name Simon I also really like the name Clark and I don't Hear of a lot of young kids Named Clark do you that is a

Solid name I find this interesting Only because, if I have this right You're a person who You've known from a young age That you weren't planning on being a parent Yeah, I never wanted to have kids I'm surprised that you even put the time in To think of some preferred baby names Considering that you were Not ever going to really be Playing in that space I have opinions about all kinds of things That I have no business having opinions about

Do you know that

I mean, you're also not going to play For the Mariners But you have thoughts about Robbie Ray showing up to camp Apparently with looser pants

He was on he was interviewed on one of the shows on the station on the local sports station I listened to yesterday but I did not get to hear it and I usually do not like interviews with athletes when I like just flip on the radio in the middle of the day and it's audio spackle I just want to hear the hosts of that show kind of toss things back and forth and joke around about sports and maybe debate a topic or whatever but then they're like now we're going to interview the tight end of the Seahawks I mean no offense to Uncle Disley But I'm just like, I don't want to hear sports players talking about their sports. A lot of the Mariners have been sort of changing my mind about that. Like Logan Gilbert is an amazing interview, very low key, but will like actually get into talking about his various pitches and trying out new things. And like he's very candid, which I really like. And I got to say, I want to hear what Robbie Ray had to say, because I think they asked him about the, you know, the pitch that that was heard around the stadium that that it didn't get us out of the playoffs. But it was a terrible, terrible loss for the for the Mariners this during the playoffs. And, you know, he's kind of got a target on his back amongst some I won't name any, but some Mariners fans that I do a podcast with who aren't Genevieve.

or hannah brooks olsen so um anyway yeah i'd be interested in actually here i actually it was the first time in my life i heard oh they interviewed robbie i got to go back and listen to that

interview yeah i guess i would listen to that because i would be hoping that he would take some personal responsibility for what a bad decision he made to throw that pitch um so i guess maybe i mean again whenever the topic of this guy comes up the anti-vax thing is just always going to sure yeah i feel like we need like a do we need like a truth and reconciliation commission over the unvaccinated because i've got people in my not immediate family but like rippling out like maybe two rings if you will who i found out not that long ago were either unvaccinated or did it against their will because of the industries they work in and they had to but we're very anti the vaccine and it really is stuck in my craw and yet what am i going to do not associate with people who i've loved for many over the years because of this one thing i bet you there are a lot i bet you our listeners have this similar situation in their life there's a person or persons who you love who were for some reason anti-vax and now it's like you know all indications are that we've moved into a new phase and that the vast majority of us don't need to be super duper worried about COVID at this point. You know, of course people with underlying conditions and people who are elderly, et cetera, it goes on for them. But like, what's the policy on just like, do we, are we like, am I, do I have a permanent grudge? Should I have a permanent grudge against Robbie Ray and also kind of distant family members of mine? Or should I just let it go at this point? because the danger is like over for me mostly yeah but i mean shit's complicated right wasn't

that the wasn't the the slogan of the show for a while like i don't think that you have to forget about that knowledge i think that we when we look at somebody we sum up who they are as a whole and i think that is a big part of who somebody is but that doesn't i'm not saying that that means you cannot interact with that person but that is well right but it makes me kind of not i used to this

particular group of folks um i just love them so much and it used to be the kind of thing i was like oh they're gonna be there amazing like positivity in my mind around this and now it's like oh they're gonna be there and i can't turn that off now and it's such a it bums me out because at this point i don't feel like their decision is not endangering me currently you know if we would have gone uh the last of us and there was like 20 of us left on earth uh i could be really i would be mad at them and i'd be like you did this but like at this point it doesn't really change my life what their stance was um and and yet i can't get over it yeah i don't know i mean

i can't answer your question and if you're actually asking a question i i can't answer I kind of am a little bit. I mean, you're talking about a feeling that you have when you think of people. I don't think you can control how you feel. Like, I think that you need to probably there are ways you can control the way you process those feelings. But if somebody used to give you a certain feeling when you thought of them and now you think of them and that gives you a slightly different feeling, there's I mean, that's how you feel. Now, how you think about these things is interesting. Like, I think that somebody who made that decision and there's various people who made that decision in various ways. But I'm talking about the people and I have like one in my life that I know of who like actually just like just slurp constantly from the fountain of Fox News and have a worldview that has been totally shaped by a company that I feel like is brainwashing the country and has theories and and and and and feels like they they're some of the people who are the least educated and have the least not accessed information, but the least desire to access honest information that doesn't fit in with the worldview. are making decisions that are impacting the rest of us. And now we are we're beyond the latest the latest specific dangers related to that. But the dangers related to that in a lot of cases, and I'm not speaking of your family here, but there's a through line for a lot of these folks between the people who believe that that the last presidential election was stolen as well. And then also those are the same people who believe things like, you know, whether or not they believe the vaccine has a 5g chip in it or just believe that they're better than everybody else and everybody else can they're not going to get sick or whatever because everybody else is taking the vaccine and they don't have to either way it's a sense of selfishness and obtuseness that now i'm not saying that everybody i mean people are complex and if you know somebody in your life who has a certain opinion on these things that you don't agree with maybe that person in your life is somebody that you can be a positive influence on i mean when i'm around folks who i love who i know who have a very different worldview than me. I try to be my

best self. I know that sounds really corny, and I'm not saying I achieve it, but I think that is the platonic ideal, right? Because you can say, like, look, I'm not a loony. I'm not breaking windows in Seattle just to flip off the Nike corporation or anything. You know what I mean? Like, I am not a loony. I am somebody who you love who has opposite thoughts than you, but I think you can respect that. If over the long run, I can have a positive impact on somebody Who might see the world slightly differently Because of my impact on their life Then good I'm not advocating for people to cut other people out of their lives But I would also say There gets a point where you can cut people out of your lives You know Like everybody's got to take their own path on that shit

Right And the particular folks The part that was truly jaw-dropping to me Was that the particular folks I'm talking about Are not Fox News consumers You know what I mean It was really out of the blue Now if somebody has picked up an additional pitch

in the offseason does that impact if we forgive them yeah right exactly although i mean not to not to break down that game but i also look back at robbie ray should not have been in that position in that game there were there were a couple of failures by relievers who did not do their job before he got out there and they they definitely admitted their role in that as well and that was a bad way to end it but like it's it's kind of like the hold at the end of the super bowl like there are a lot of things that go into a game that one single thing is not what lost it although that single thing kind of lost it for us never mind argument peters out

he just back into the head you know what i saw a great little uh i saw a really funny little video probably on tiktok and it was a gender reveal uh deal you know what i mean like someone pops of balloons it's a mom and a dad and they pop the balloon and obviously like uh the traditional way this goes is like if it's i don't need to explain how these things work people know anyway they pop the balloon and it's yellow and the dad or somebody goes what does yellow mean and then it just cuts to a guy who's painted up looks just like homer simpson who's slowly backing into the hedge

that's really great that was a pretty good spoof i think that's a pretty good spoof as well i did

not know where it was going uh-huh right i mean i i have a pretty low tolerance for those gender reveal course things for a million reasons but i don't know why i was even letting it play on my

tiktok but then i was glad i did because it was actually pretty that's pretty good i only saw a headline today and i haven't read into this yet i'm sorry you can tell i had no mission coming into the show today and i'm really really scattered um did you see really i had a mission

to bring up a homer simpson tick tock gender reveal mean promises made promises kept is there

some hobby group that is saying the u.s government shot down one of their research one of their

research balloons i saw that mentioned in the new york post which is why i immediately dismissed it

okay never i think i saw the stranger so i don't know okay i'm sure it's possible i mean you talk

about media bias it's funny because i tend to think of course that the sources that i use and rely on are are are the ones that are believable and i tend to like so i saw that headline in the new i i kind of love reading the new york post because they just have the most ridiculous headlines and they do find a lot of salacious stuff i mean they're just so trashy um but i also if i see a headline about like hobbyists in rage that joe biden shot their balloon down i just immediately dismiss it because i'm reading it i'm seeing the headline in the new york post whereas if i were to see it in the stranger who i you know i don't actually follow this read the stranger very much anymore but i would definitely believe it more because i'd be like well they're not they don't get up every morning trying to basically figure out what's on hunter biden's

laptop which is what the new york post does i what that reminds me of a piece of tape that i think it was a once in a lifetime chris hayes sent you and i a piece of tape of himself saying something funny on his show right like why can't i see hunter's nudes why can't oh yeah we got to use that is a drop um sorry that just popped into my head and like i said that's the rule i'm following today if it pops in your head mention it so i've tracked this now at least to cbs chicago so this is like the local cbs station in chicago uh amateur hobby group in illinois says balloon might have been shot down in alaska it is the illinois bottle cap balloon brigade and it's one of their 32 inch pico balloons that went missing in action right around the time the government shot something down Over Alaska Or maybe Canada But I'm trying to figure out what a Pico balloon is What the bottle cap balloon Brigade is It sounds so fun doesn't it

I had read that Everybody is freaking out About these balloons The White House has had to clarify That they're not extraterrestrial Or it's

not aliens or whatever, and like what I read was that the reason that all of a sudden there seems to be a bunch of these balloons is because they just changed the parameters on their radar settings, like the U.S. did. The U.S. didn't used to look for things that are maybe moving this slowly or whatever. Somebody said it's like if you're searching to buy a car online, and you say it has to be a red Hyundai, a red 2012 Hyundai,

you'll get a certain kind of...

or a Volkswagen, a Hyundai or a Volkswagen. But if you were to expand the search and you're going to say it could be any color of Hyundai or it could be any car from that year, you're just going to get way more hits. And that's effectively what's happening. These balloons have been out there. We haven't been looking for them. They changed the parameters on what the radar is now actually picking up. And, of course, a bunch of new things popped up. But this is not because there's really anything new going on. We're just actually seeing it all of a sudden.

It's so funny. I thought you're going to go with the analogy that I heard on the radio. I thought this was going to be one of those you and I were wishing on the same bright star. But the thing is, I'm now realizing the story I heard might not have been NPR. It might have been somebody doing a two-way on the AM news station that I listen to as I slip further and further. Those are very different vibes. Well, yes and no. I mean, don't make me defend my – I can never remember what they're called now that they're not. I heard about that thing on the AM radio. They used to be Como Radio. Now it's Northwest News Network. No, that's the public radio one, right? That's M3. I can't remember what it's called. But whatever, 1000 on the AM dial. I actually like that. I think they air ABC News. So I think I was hearing like an ABC News two-way about this. It wasn't like a couple of chuckleheads arguing about whether or not it was aliens or the Russians. You know what I mean? Anyway, the analogy that I heard was very similar to yours, only it was like, think about it like your email spam folder. Like, you're not, it's blocking out certain things, but then suddenly something big comes through, and that would be like the Chinese balloon, right? And you're just like, oh, what is this? And then you start to open up your filters a little bit wider, and you look at what's in your spam filter. And once you open them wider, you're like, oh, I'm starting to see smaller stuff in here, too. I'm kind of like, kind of the same thing. I'm opening the filters to to capture more stuff.

It's called Northwest News Radio now. Northwest News Radio. Right. And I have a real soft spot. I need to figure out what the Portland equivalent of that is and if they have it here, because I do really enjoy some of that. You give us 10 minutes, we'll give you the world stuff, you know, like famously 1010 wins in New York and WTOP. I believe in D.C. I love that kind of old school, booming voice type of newscaster who's just kind of reading the same hour of copy, hour in and hour out, hour after hour, I should say. And there's a really clearly identified kind of sound, the imaging on those stations and the commercials. I actually really enjoy the sound of those things. I need to figure out the Portland equivalent so I can actually listen to them.

I mean, up here, we got both Rick Van Syce and his son, Taylor Van Syce, both offering us news tidbits throughout the day. Are you kidding me?

Van Syce is just running this town.

That's right.

It's a dynasty over there. It really is. It's a dynasty. I'm considering starting to say dynasty.

Ooh, is that a Britishism sort of?

Yeah. I feel like I heard somebody say that maybe on like Downton Abbey or something. Dynasty.

But then you have to say everything like they do on Downton Abbey. Nope.

Just dynasty and Volkswagen. Wait, Volkswagen. I now can't mess it up I can't remember which one is the wrong one That I always say And so I keep accidentally saying it correctly And it's really damaging the brand, Andrew My brand is calling it Volkswagen

Well, as you were sitting there Kind of joking about Hyundai And of course you know how to say it properly But it's one of those things Where if you say that too many times, Luke You're going to poison your brain Be careful about that Like, you know what I mean? Like that's happened to us Both from doing this show Or spoofing with our partners or whatever you say something incorrectly enough and as a joke and then you start saying it around people who don't know that at one point it was a joke and now you're just broken and uh the reason that

i was noting that about people seeming to have a hard time pronouncing that word was because as i was reading this article about the um the hack that people could do on certain models of hyundai i was reading about it and i was watching various videos and then youtube videos um and so many people were just having such a hard time saying the name of the company oh really i thought it's been around a long time like you would just think that at this point i mean it's a fairly popular brand in the u.s you kind of think people would have heard it enough but there's still i

hear it a lot here's what i think are the

I mean, I mispronounce all kinds of things. So like I'm, you know, not I don't know if I'm the right person to speak on this or the wrong person to speak on this. I certainly have a lot of experience with it. But for me, I think it's complicated in my brain. Like if we weren't having this conversation about how it's pronounced and it's just like, I don't know, three weeks from now, I'm doing an episode of After These Messages with Genevieve. The word comes up. I probably stumble on it a little bit as I try to say it correctly. I think that's because there's a car called a Honda and this is Hyundai. and also it's not spelled how it looks like you have to ignore that one why and then you do have to in especially if you're kind of referencing it off a page or something and then you have to kind of figure out what to do with the vowels at the end I'm not saying it's rocket science I'm not saying that we shouldn't learn how to say pronounce things properly especially if they come from another language or another culture but I'm just saying that like in the flow of things it is less confusing to me why that would be something that somebody stumbles on it doesn't help too that

Beck intentionally mispronounced it in the song Debra.

Oh, how does he say it?

Where he says, lady, step inside my Hyundai. I'm going to take you down to Glendale.

Yeah, you know what? I think I say Hyundai sometimes. I wonder if that's because of him. Yeah.

Speaking of Scientologists, Andrew. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. We should take a break because I do want to get to some of these top stories for once. So we are going to do that in a moment here on TBTL.

On your mark On your mark Get set Get set Now ready Ready Go Everybody rattle Dattle Everybody rattle

Let's thank some dazzling donors Who are donating a dazzling amount of dough And keeping TBTL going Folks like our friend Jamie Nettles Jamie Down there in Columbus, Mississippi I didn't realize this, Andrew Do we have a There must be a 180-word limit on this message that folks can submit.

I know that there is some sort of limit on the message. I didn't know it was 180 words. It seems weird that we would measure it by words because some words are longer than others. But I guess that's what the reference is.

Jamie says, 180 words. That's rich. At year 13, I guess I'm in TBTL College now and still learning. Seriously, though, your decision to never miss a show is amazing, and the consistency has been a touchstone through bad times when I most needed, let's see, no commitment other than the above-mentioned dollar sign parasocial relationships. Let me unpack that sentence. Jamie is saying, the consistency has been a touchstone through bad times when I most needed no commitment other than I see. So in other words, I think if I'm picking up what Jamie is putting down, it's been nice for Jamie at times to just know that the show is going to happen five days a week, and she can be as engaged or as checked out. She could be as engaged as to literally host us in her home in Columbus, Mississippi, and a bunch of other times. that's like very engaged on the high end of the engagement scale or just kind of be living her very busy life um outside of tbtl and just know that it's we're still here we're still doing the show um so and jamie i don't think the relationship is parasocial we've been in your house i think it

is social i don't think there's any para i uh you know it doesn't make me i was gonna say you know i was gonna sort of wag my finger at the other listeners who haven't invited us inside their homes yeah uh and and offered us chicken from a chicken drawer as jamie did um but it is true actually we are starting we are starting to go to a lot of listeners homes a couple of years ago we i mean it was the pandemic so we couldn't go indoors but we did go to various people's homes now i'm starting to wonder have we been to more homes than we haven't of people who listen to

the show on the reg i would say it's it's probably about 50 right now so um i again the point there is this is a very social relationship between us and many of the listeners. It is not parasocial. Jamie says, in these better times, it's still a treat I dole out to myself to get up in the morning and get through my morning jog. Hard hat lunch pail. TBTL. That's what I tell myself sometimes when I'm running up a hill. I just say hard hat lunch pail over and over in my brain. Like, I'm going to work. This is not the fun part of this jog, but I'm going to work. Putter on, my imaginary friends. Signed, the listener Jamie in Mississippi Thank you, Jamie We really appreciate you Maestro

On your mark On your mark Get set Get set Now ready Ready Go Everybody rattle

We've also got to thank our friend Remco Tannis Everybody rattle Now this is something that Remco Opens his letter with Just a little poodle of an anecdote For you this year Is that a thing?

That's so great

I love it.

That's great.

I don't really understand how it works, but I'm into it. Just a little poodle of an anecdote for you this year, which I've been thinking of since the talk of The Goonies' house. The Goonies, first movie I've watched at a theater at age nine, but that's not the story. My holy bible of films is The Big Lebowski. You might not find that too original, but hey, that's just like your opinion, man. Listen, if you're going to have a Holy Grail, I would say The Lebowski is as good a Holy Grail as you can have. I don't see any lies there. like that is a it's an amazing film back in 2011 a friend and i were in la and we decided to spend an afternoon driving to lebowski filming locations of course the bowling alley got torn down for a high school but the dude's house is an actual well house we drove by very specifically uh we're the only ones there and uh no uh dude's not welcome in a font that's off on the house next door wait Why am I having such... Am I having aphasia right now?

No, that's a little bit of a tough sentence. I meant to let you know that's a bit of a tough sentence. So it's a reference to the sign next door to the Goonies' house that was like a big banner with a font that was slightly off. Got it, got it, got it.

My brain was trying to remember if I missed a plot point in Lebowski where one of his neighbors had hung a sign. And I was like, no, all I remember from his living situation, well, A, the rug really ties the room together and also his landlord's one-man show his landlord coming over and invited a trying to get the rent and be trying to invite him to his one-man show right so i also remember

throwing a weasel in a tub um and also him oh god i think my ferret or ferret rather i think my favorite line from the movie is you're clearly not a golfer no i think i'm messing up my favorite I think he says you're obviously not a golfer

As they're giving him a swirly Over and over I just want to know Is there a way to clean Can you clean a toilet well enough Like I'm talking about the film On set That that's not just disgusting for Jeff Bridges You have to bring in A brand new toilet And then you have to put a patina on it So that it looks like it would be a toilet In the dude's apartment Because that cannot be a toilet That was ever used No I don't think They would do that

I mean any set Would just be You know I'm sure I mean that might be A toilet that's been Used on other sets But not to Not to have human

It's only been used Though as a joke toilet Right exactly It has a tiny hole Like just big enough For farts It's a joke toilet That's a I believe that's I think you should Leave reference

I think you should leave Yeah I forgot That's the very first The very first episode Right Anyway

Yes I think it's Like the first Like maybe the first Skit In the first Has this ever happened to you?

Yeah. Okay, so I just want to clear up Remco's. Thank you for that. So he's saying that he went to the dude's house, like the real life house.

And there was not the same kind of animosity or frustration in the neighborhood where people are like, please stop coming by the dude's house.

There is no dude's not welcome sign in a font that's slightly off on the house next door.

And I do like that Remco got the dude's not as capitalized, but then welcome is lowercase. Oh, yeah. Which I don't think that can't be an accent. I think Remco is making a reference to how weird the Goonies banner was. That is how it was, yeah. Just a friendly little note near the gate that said something like, Hey, dude, just remember, this is a private residence, man. Very low-key, exactly the right tone, making you just linger for a quick pick, and that's it. And proper font, serif, and all. That's all I got. Thanks for the show. So Remco went by. A poodle of an anecdote from Remco Who went by the dude's actual house And saw that the people Who were living there were chill about it And put a note out that was very In keeping with the dude's general philosophy Remco is a man of the world

I believe, I think

Remco live in like Switzerland or something

I want to say he's from Switzerland Originally but then travels the world As a journalist I think does a lot of Reporting from Asia I want to say So yeah Remco and also a wonderful photographer as well if you follow him on instagram wow we've got some real we had some

real on it listeners andrew i don't understand what the appeal of this is to them but i'll take

it yes thanks remco and thanks jamie appreciate you hello and welcome to top story uh the federal

government, the Federal Highway Administration is asking states to stop putting jokey notes on their reader boards. Things like in New Jersey where it says, we'll be blunt, don't drive high. Or another one that they did in New Jersey, hold on to your butts, help prevent forest fires. That's actually pretty good. The Federal Highway

Thank you.

administration has actually done a study on if these funny little clever quips actually help promote traffic safety or hinder traffic safety, and their argument is it actually makes it worse, because if you spend extra time looking at a Taylor Swift joke, which apparently is a big winner in Mississippi, they talked to somebody named Paul Catool, who's a spokesman for the Mississippi Department of Transportation. And he said they had heard great response from their drivers after they put the message, texting and driving, say it. I'm the problem, it's me. That's a Taylor Swift line. They're saying in Mississippi, lots of people have stopped texting and driving because they saw the clever sign that quoted a Taylor Swift line and they realized that they were in fact the problem. He said, we've got a tremendous response and we want to continue to do this.

Yeah, but how many people pulled out their phone to take a photo of that and text it to a friend?

Right. Some of these other ones, I've got this. By the way, this is a really good piece in the Washington Post by Ian Duncan. I had all these circled on my script yesterday, Andrew, which I left up at the other place. So now I'm kind of back here and I don't have everything circled. But, I mean, I don't know. How do you feel? here's one uh from pennsylvania telling people uh not to drink and drive only rudolph should drive lit plan a sober ride what do you think about about local entities trying to add a little bit of whimsy and a little bit of fun to an otherwise just kind of very basic messages like don't drink

and drive i mean if it actually works if there's any indication that people see it and then the message becomes stickier as we say in the stuff in the sign business i'm in the sign business now and we work with a lot of sticky materials no but I mean if somebody sees something and the message implants in their brain better because of that even if it is a bit of a groaner well then I don't have anything against it I'm sort of thinking like these signs and the jokes there upon are a little bit like when you get a pilot or a flight attendant who thinks they're a little bit more entertaining than they are it's okay if you want to keep things a little bit light and get a little chuckle from the plane as you're taking off and making a quick announcement that's one thing but if you really are taking that opportunity to work out some of your stand-up material as i've been on some planes recently both pilots and flight attendants really loving to work that mic and i am like are you shitting me let's wrap it up yeah there are certain airlines that really lean into

that i think southwest is sort of like you know it's a budget airline and there are they're pretty no frills and i get the sense that they're like okay well you're gonna have to pay extra you know to check a bag or to you're not gonna have much leg room but we're gonna just have the sassiest uh flight attendants in the game we're gonna have lots of fun jokes and like the only time that i think i i am good with that is when you're going to vegas for vacation the flight to vegas is very fun because it's all potential still. The flight home from Vegas is where hope goes to die. Although I did once meet a man dressed like Superman and I was able to do a This American Life story about it. So I guess I've had one good experience flying home from Vegas. This was a study that they did at Virginia Tech which actually argues against what the national highway people are saying, which is that they don't want jokes. Virginia Tech they took 300 people they hooked their brains up to monitors to see how they responded when shown messages like Texting while driving Oh, cell no And don't let your tailgate End with a cellmate Don't let your tailgate end with a cellmate

It's getting too complicated Yeah, that one, don't let your tailgate

I mean, I'll crash just trying to Cogitate on that one Let my tailgate, oh, okay So if I was tailgating and I crash and someone's injured I could do jail time for this? Okay, stop tailgating Their argument was When people there was actually more brain activity among participants when they saw messages like texting while driving ah sell no therefore it is as you said stickier well you know if it works

it works but let's just try to let's try to keep it um funny i guess for lack of a better word let's keep it simple let's keep the drinks flowing yes the thing is though this is actually kind of turned

into a real deal because the the federal highway folks have threatened some states with pulling federal funds if the states continue to put their i read this yesterday in the intro um they said uh the new policy is that messages should avoid witticisms colloquialisms popular culture or slang references including um i i can't tell which state this was in but one of the uh

states had a sign that said ain't nobody got time for a wreck slow it down that's pretty good one i would that one i would probably get that so what is the what is the beef of the feds they think that it is it actually people are more likely to get into an accident when they're trying to read your clever road sign yeah that says you know ain't nobody got time for a wreck that it's better to just leave these things alone or to have very standard messages the argument from the states is look at the virginia tech research if people if we do something clever people might actually think about it for another minute and it might actually impact their behavior yeah i i can i

can sort of see both sides of it like i i mean my well i don't even know if i want to talk about this my eyes i need to go to the eye doctor like post haste like yesterday really yeah are you um

Are you finding that your vision is deteriorating?

And what the problem is, like, my vision has been deteriorating pretty rapidly ever since I hit 40. Like people say, and I'm 46 now. And keep in mind, I've never had good eyesight. I've been wearing glasses since I was two years old. I had a little patch over one of my eyes before that. So my entire life I've had pretty bad vision. But it's getting worse, and it's getting more bifurcated in that way that, like, I have progressive lenses. Now there's a post to help me read, which had never been a problem for me before. but um i'm still dumb that's where i was like so i'll be i'll know how to read now doctor and she was like well you'll be able to see shapes whether or not you can sound them out is up to you um but anyway like we're gonna get you some flash cards right exactly wait a second this isn't the eye doctor this is hooked on phonics that's how you can tell my generation a hooked on wow is that still a going concern i kind of doubt it but uh anyway what i was gonna say regarding driving is and i realized this driving down to portland a few weeks ago is um i have you know i plug my phone into the car and then we have you know pretty decent size console um uh like screen right and my google map is up on that screen like it's nice i'm not like squinting down at my phone but i'm realizing now that shifting my gaze from that map to the road not just to follow the blue line that's easy but like when i'm trying to actually read what the um what it says my next exit is 123b north or whatever like that's kind of small writing up in the top left hand corner of that of that screen and as i'm you know driving down the highway at 65 70 miles an hour and i'm shifting my eyes to try to read that but also keep an eye on the road it's really hard for my eyes to kind of make the adjustment from reading the one thing to then looking out far away and i was like really struggling with that and i don't i don't do a lot of road trips but it really struck me like jeez louise man this isn't super safe and also like my eyes they're bad please sir my eyes

they very sick sick i i have to say that i have occasional moments and i you know i need reading glasses now for certain things but i still am fortunate in that uh my i think for being 46 my are probably pretty um functional but i will have a moment every once in a while where i'm driving at night like and it it's not if i'm on a freeway because freeways are generally very well lit but like if i'm in a neighborhood or i'm in like a part of portland where it's not they don't have many street lights or they're not particularly effective and there's like maybe a roundabout or there's just multiple cars i will start to get a little bit overwhelmed this is at night Thinking like, I'll just feel like I can't really see what's going on here to my satisfaction and I start to get kind of anxious, which I've never been an anxious driver. And I have this realization, I was like, this is why, I know people that don't like to drive at night, right? Like that's a thing that happens for people and I feel, I mean I'm still pretty far away from that, but I have had the first sense of why people would say that. Particularly if I'm in an area that I don't know, so let's just, you know, it's some windy road in some residential area that I'm unfamiliar with. And I'm trying to I'm not exactly sure. Am I supposed to, like, wait for this light or go around? You know what I mean? Like, if I start to get a little confused as to what I'm doing and it's dark and I feel like cars are either waiting behind me or could be coming around some sort of blind corner, if there's any sort of confusion on my part, it gets really heightened. And I just kind of feel like I don't want to be here right now.

Yeah. You know, the driving a night thing has been something that even before I was 40, like I started to become somewhat uncomfortable with. And if all things are equal, like if Genevieve and I are driving somewhere, it's pretty rare that Genevieve and I are like driving together at night anyway. Like, again, when we're when we're going out around town, we'll usually bus it or take a car anyway. But like, I'll have her drive at night if if, you know, if it's up to either one of us, just because like the bright lights coming at me. I have my glasses on. I keep my glasses clean. I keep my windshield. Hey, Ian.

know my song in the style of george therogood and the destroyers i keep my glasses clean i keep my windshield cleaner um but still like any kind of like little imperfection or whatever it really becomes a glare when the headlights are shining right at you and it's like it's like really it's really distracting like i'm a i'm really an old man and like that's one of those things i'm lucky well i'm lucky but also have created my life in a way that you know i live in a city and i want to stay living in an urban area um as i grow older because it's easier to get around it's a lot harder to get around without a car if you're living in a rural area of course but like you know a lot of people it's a tough time to kind of give up your car and i want to be in a position in my life where it's not that hard to give up my car when the time comes it turns out that might be

at 48 so we'll see i can't figure out why we're not adding more younger listeners with this oh Oh, my back hurts. With this kind of discourse.

Oh, my sciatica.

All right. After all that, we didn't even actually get a chance to talk about Hyundai. But the point is, if you have a Kia Rio, a Kia Sportage, or a Hyundai Accent, you might want to get in touch with Hyundai and see if they can give you the software patch so that people can't take your steering column off and plug a USB thing into it and steal your car. Get the patch. Yeah, exactly. The one thing that I thought was weird was this was an article at Vice Magazine that Justin Sullivan wrote. It seems like it's a little bit unclear. This is 2011 through 2022 model years, by the way. Hyundai plans to reimburse those owners for the purchase of a steering wheel lock if their car doesn't have the capability of taking the software patch. It's a club. Isn't that what that means?

A steering wheel lock just means the club, right? I'm guessing Maybe it looks a little bit different Maybe it's branded

Dude, the guy in my building Who drives the gold Like 2009 Sebring And who has kitty litter down Because it leaks oil And who wears a tremendous amount of cologne Which I like by the way I enjoy the smell of his cologne He has added a new feature To the vehicle And it's one of those gigantic like ham radio antennas i can picture off the trunk right or off the top of the car this is on the top of his vehicle yeah and it's so it wants to stick up so much that he has to tie it down to his actual antenna that's on his trunk if that makes any sense because you know the parking garage has a relatively low ceiling so you can't this thing would just be banging into the ceiling or something so he's got it like tied though the antenna is like tied down and what he's tied it to is his radio antenna which is like a normal sized antenna but like this just went on the car i love this guy so much is he just is he like doing does he have a cb in the car or like a

ham radio like cb i think right isn't that is that what that's i think so yeah i don't think that's amazing yeah yeah i mean i could be wrong and i'm sure maybe you know this technology is somewhat flexible but um no i think ham radios are usually more stationary right but you think of a cb is the well sure yeah yeah i guess you're right i just haven't seen i mean that was a

relative not common thing but you know what i'm talking about like you would you would see those on cars and uh i've never i have not experienced someone adding that to their vehicle in 2023 other than this guy he is amazing you say that he smells nice like a cologne that you like but

Did you say he's a smoker? Because I'm getting, like, big smoker vibes off of this person.

I think he smokes in his car, but it's, you know. I don't know if you said that or not. I appreciate that it's cigarette smoke and not weed, because everyone else in my building smokes weed in their car.

Right.

And the entire parking garage usually smells like weed. But this guy is just a legend. And just when I thought, oh, he uses the club is the reason that I started thinking of him. He's also one of the few people I still see using the club. But when he's done, when he's turning in for the night, that Sebring isn't going anywhere, baby, because he's got the club on there.

If you see somebody who's smoking marijuana in their car, Luke, and you're worried that they're going to get on the road, I want you to go up to them. Tap on the window. Have them roll down the window. I want you to say, I'm going to get to the point. Don't smoke that joint. You're a dweeb if you smoke weed and drive.

Yep. Or I'll say, only Rudolph should be lit. Plan a sober ride.

Right.

Anyway, let's talk music for your weekend.

What would you like to play? I don't know what to do here. Okay, I'm going to play this song. I'll tell you what. I listened to this song once about a week ago. Meant to go back. to it i loved it when i heard it um this was sent to me by our friend uh tiara in baltimore who i share a lot of musical taste with i am so out of the loop on anything that would be considered popular i mean i don't even know where to begin anymore but do you know you know that billy eilish is a brightest area with points that's almost literally what i said yesterday yeah i think i actually i got that right i said young white female performer who changes her hair color I think that's that was not inaccurate. I think that's exactly how a cool person would describe Billy Eilish. Do you know who Smino is? S-M-I-N-O. Smino, an American hip hop artist, I believe, collaborating with J. Cole here on a song called 90 Proof that I do believe celebrates the use of marijuana products, which I hope that doesn't offend. but I remember Tierra sent this to me and I was like oh my god that's so good and I threw it into my playlist and then I haven't gone back to my playlist so I will be hearing this song for the second time here maybe some of you will be hearing it for the first or 500th time take a listen to this it's called 90 Proof

Take a break and roll it, stick it like it But for regulations, at least I try Passion baby, gotta make a couple rounds Gonna make it back to you to settle down

Don't blame yourself for all this shit Ah, just as good in the light of day as it was the first time I heard it.

good although i feel high from listening you gotta contact high oh me into a state no that

that is so good yes yes i didn't know where it was going at the beginning i was like are you

playing this at the wrong speed oh yes it does start off like real chopped and screwed i put it underwater i put my computer underwater and hit play on that smart yeah thank you tiara

my uh daughter sent me a playlist on valentine's day that was just a bunch of songs that she had found that had love in the title and uh i was going through and i could listen happy birthday i don't want to rain on her birthday she could have left love shack off of the list as far as i'm concerned and i realized i think i have a different my song is not love shack for the record i think i have a different relationship because of my age with the song love shack than someone who's 29 might because i don't ever need to hear the song love shack again in my life

right I am I am definitely the biggest B-52s fan in your life right I gotta be and I'm probably the biggest B-52s fan in a lot of people's life I'm not the biggest B-52s fan in the world all of that is to say I love them guys I love the early record so much and I even like that record a lot but I don't need to hear that song anymore either you know it was just like it was omnipresent in our youth and it is also a very very in your face song and a very popular karaoke song and hey you know what have

fun with it everybody but like it's funny because i think if you're 29 and you haven't been subjected to as much of the song love shack in your life as a 46 year old uh would be then you just have a different appreciation for the song and it's probably just kind of like a fun quirky little song and to me it's like okay we're at karaoke again right now can i i should not do this i am

just setting myself up for failure number two on the same quasi joke but I tried to explain something that I have in my head this is like a weird it's not even a I can't explain it Luke it's not even quite a joke but it's something that I've had bouncing in the back of my head for some time and I sort of see it as this like you're making a movie or a tv show or maybe even a commercial right and there's some scene where somebody is walking in on a conversation or like you just hear a bit of a conversation in the background as a scene begins before the principal actors take over or something. And I think there's a famous example of people saying, and she stepped on the ball or something like that. I love the idea of having that little piece of dialogue that is sort of cut in the beginning and you don't know what the people are talking about to be. No, your tin roof rusted. Like I've always loved seeing at least you gave. a little bit of a chuckle there genevieve on a podcast stared at me there was like 30 or 40 seconds of silence as she just stared at me like i was some alien that broke into her studio anyway i think it's funny i think i i could see that being i could see that being a joke i like

it does it raises the question no i mean like what i like about those about those little like half of a joke or whatever is of course your brain then tries to fill in what it was the beginning of it. Right, right. Which is a fun exercise. Anyway, okay. So I am not suggesting Love Shack from the place, but I am suggesting a song by someone named Helene Smith, who I get the sense was a singer back in the probably like 60s. The song is I Am Controlled by Your Love, and I was unfamiliar with the work of Helene Smith, and now I'm going to check her out because I think the song is some pretty good old school kind of soul singing. So can we hear a little Helene Smith?

My heart can't beat, baby Unless you tell it too My eyes can't see, baby Unless you tell them too There are things I should do, but I know it's just no use, because I'm controlled by your love. I'm controlled by your love. Oh, yes, I am.

So there you go. Little Helene Smith.

Oh, that's beautiful. I've been embarrassed to admit this, but as soon as I heard that, I was like, I wonder who sampled this, because that is like a perfect song to sample for your track. And I'm on that website, who sampled, and it does look like it's been sampled, not by anybody I've heard of. But once again, every new artist is just a colorful spot with points to me. You also have music blindness. This is beautiful, though. This is amazing. Yeah, it's good, though, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Our listener suggestion comes from our friend, listener Laura, who says, if the coffers are getting bare for musical recommendations, let me send mine. They actually are a little bare, so send in. Everybody send in your music for your weekend suggestions, please. Luke at tbtl.net. Put like music in the subject line so I can find them. The Smoky Brights are a Seattle-based band made up of some of my dear friends, and they've been really cranking out some great music over the years. They just released an EP called Broken 2 That has one of my faves on it The song is called Fancy Ketchup And it sure is a good one Hope you enjoy it So that's what we're going to go out with A little music from the band Smokey Brights The song is Fancy Ketchup

Let me ask you a question First of all I accidentally cut off the link here So I need to go into my email and find it So I'm going to stall while I do that and ask you a question i heard people talking on the radio this morning in passing that this is a three-day weekend i did not uh i did not realize that what is that what is the holiday president's day is it president's day and does that affect anything that we're doing on monday's show are we doing like some sort of a holiday treatment i mean i'm fine to do the whole thing i'm just kind of curious that's not something we addressed i don't celebrate president's day i don't yeah i

I do not feel like I'm subject to the laws of this country or the president. I'm a sovereign citizen. I'm a sovereign podcaster.

I like this. This is good to know.

So I'm not going to take the day off from entertaining the people in honor of some sort of system that I don't agree with or believe in or even honestly recognize.

Okay, cool. So you're getting a co-host then because I do not work on President's Day.

You know what? Let's do a short show on that.

I think that's maybe what I was really asking. Anyway, that gave me enough time to find the link again for Fancy Ketchup, so thank you. Yeah, so we'll be back here. We will be here on President's Day, and maybe we'll do something a little fun.

All right. Have a great weekend, everybody. We'll see you on Monday. Until then, please take care of yourselves, and remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

Then we're out of here

Cause I don't know I don't know I don't know my head

I'm a hole in the clouds And I'm never coming down

Cause I'm

I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me. Power out.