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My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I might have tacos when I go home. I'm not quite sure yet. Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, on this holiday Monday.

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It is President's Day as we arrive at episode 3884 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. Probably do a somewhat truncated show today, but of course we've got to serve up that piping hot new original content five days a week. So here we are. Since it's President's Day, he's doing a little research about the origins of the holidays.

I'm the president of rap music, and I need to work with you right away.

And I have to say, George Washington, have you heard of him? Sort of a fairly crucial figure in the early parts of this country's founding. He had a lot in common with my friend Andrew Walsh. George Washington used to also play darts by himself late into the night listening to sports talk podcasts. No, something about President's Day has me noting an actual similarity between the founding father of this country and my favorite co-bro of the program, by the way.

Isn't he the best?

He's also known for his drawings of the tall ships, their grace, and their majesty. He is the aforementioned Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me today on this special holiday edition of the program. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. Do you want to hear my George Washington joke? I sure do. It's not like a quick riddle. It's actually one of those story jokes, and this is one that I heard on an AA tape when I was a kid, and it's been a long time since I told it.

What do they call those things again? They call them leads. Leads, yes.

Yeah, when you're in AA and you want to share your personal story and it might serve others either as inspiration or maybe it'll sound familiar to others who are on a similar journey of recovery, you will give what they call a lead. And I had several cassette tapes of old AA leads I loved talk radio before I knew what talk radio was I didn't listen to the AM radio But I would put on cassette tapes with AA leads on them If I would have had access to that

I would have absolutely I mean that was why I was listening to what was called Talk Back with Bob Larson Which was a completely unhinged radio show Where he would be like casting demons out over the radio But I just loved hearing people telling interesting stories or even being weird over the radio waves i'm only pausing because i'm

trying to remember this joke i think i've even told this on the show before years and years ago

but i probably haven't told it you could have told it on friday and i wouldn't remember

it's new to me that's a good point oh goldfish um okay so here i'm gonna try to tell this story and i'll just like make up the parts that i think i need to spackle over but there's a farmer does he have to be a farmer i'm not sure but i need to expedite this okay so there's this farmer right and he has an outhouse and it's on top of a hill i don't know why they built it that way but they just did you have to go with me on that and um one day he woke up or went outside and he saw that the the outhouse somebody had pushed it down the hill it was now at the bottom of the hill it was a mess and uh he had a feeling that his son might be responsible for this disaster so he uh he calls his son out and he says did you knock that outhouse down the hill and then the boy's like no no no i would never do anything like that dad but the farmer he knows his son and he can tell that the son is lying do you know where we're going with this i don't actually i mean i what i remember

about of course the george washington let's be honest probably myth was that he chopped down a here. tree but then he copped to it when he was a kid right yeah exactly and that is exactly where we're

going with this so okay the the farmer um feels like his son is lying to him so he tells him that story about george washington be it true or not it's a good lesson to say and how he uh chopped down a cherry tree and uh he could not tell a lie he he was honest to his folks about chopping down this cherry tree and he was rewarded for being honest not for doing something bad but for being honest about it afterwards so having told that story to his son he says to his son again now son I'm asking you to tell me the truth did you knock the outhouse down the hill and the son kind of gets teary and says yeah dad I did do it but I'm telling you the truth and then the the father goes ballistic he starts screaming and yelling and swatting the kid I mean this was in the days of corporal punishment Luke it was ugly and the kid does not understand what's going on he's like You told me the story about George Washington, about the tree, about being honest and not being punished if you're being honest. And the father screams, yeah, but his dad wasn't in the tree when it was chopped down. Now, I messed that up, I realized, because I started the story by saying the farmer came out to find his outhouse at the bottom of the hill, which, OK, just forget about the very beginning setup of that. I should have fudged over exactly how the farmer discovered the outhouse at the bottom of the hill. But still, we got there That's a pretty good spoof I think I'm going to join the program for some more material

Well, I was Googling When you were trying to summon it back from memory I was Googling AA lead George Washington story And I couldn't get A written description of it But I got a lot of YouTube videos Of funny AA speakers

I was going to say I would be surprised if that was something specifically I don't know Like, I sort of got the impression that these tapes were maybe just more localized and that this joke was probably just some joke. Like, you might be able to find this joke online, but it's not officially associated with AA. It's just that whoever this joker happened to be. It's not in the big book.

It's actually step 11.

I would actually love to know these tapes I listened to. Were they – because I feel like they were just dubs, right? I had a family member who was in the program, and I don't – I kind of always assumed that they were just like – Did Bozo do the dubs? Friends of friends are like localized like I don't know this from Brunswick, Ohio or something, but is there a chance that in the 80s these things were spread far and wide and these were like maybe national phenomenon actually hearing this, you know, potentially like somebody in Washington state hearing the same tape that a young Andy Walsh was listening to in Cleveland, Ohio. I don't know.

It's funny because of just how much overlap there must have been between the world that I grew up in, which was the evangelical Christian movement, where there were also tapes being passed around of sermons. But I remember that after and the world of AA, it was both people getting together in the same place because they were admitting that they were broken. There was a lot of bad coffee being consumed afterwards. We call it the fellowship time. Styrofoam cups. Yeah, made a serious And cubes of sugar Back in those days Cubes of sugar was still a thing I feel like that's really died out We're really not doing that anymore When's the last time somebody offered you a sugar cube For your coffee?

I don't take sugar in my coffee But sometimes at a nicer restaurant Or I remember, what is the coffee shop? There's a couple of them up on Capitol Hill On Broadway, like Vivace Is it Vivace? God, I haven't been there in forever That used to be my go-to place Luke they would give you a tiny little spoon A tiny little cute little spoon With one sugar cube

Tiny little line of sugar

And a tiny little saucer full of milk And I don't usually drink my coffee With milk and sugar but the whole setup was so cute I always used it I loved stirring that cube into the coffee

It's very fun I have these cups that I Sort of guilted The flight attendant I was flying in Europe many years ago and i was on um like thin air i think and they had these amazing i happened to be in like the front of the plane and they had these amazing coffee cups that were designed by somebody named merameco um who's actually a pretty famous designer they were like but they're very small they can basically they each cup contains like two sips of coffee but they're so like beautiful and such great objects that i love using them the reason i say guilted was because they don't really give them to you but i i loved it so much and i went up to the flight attendant and i said can i buy this coffee cup from you which i knew the answer was going to be no but i was just putting it in their head and then of course at the end of the flight they came up and handed me a wrapped oh version of the coffee cup which was so sweet and they asked my friend caitlin who i was flying with we were on there doing a gig for a major software concern on the East side. of seattle and they asked caitlin uh would you like your coffee cup and i believe she said no and i elbow i've never elbowed a colleague harder she's got a bruise i've ever just sent a sent a quick elbow to the ribs of one of my colleagues like dude yes you want a coffee cup so she got one and then of course gave it to me and now i have a set of two but the process of pouring the coffee into this little dainty thing stirring it and also it's got like one of those i don't know if people in europe have teeny tiny hands but like you can't even fit your finger really through the little you know kind of whatever you call it the handle but i just love the it's not like i use these cups every day but it's they're very fun to use in that kind of way where it's almost overly

involved but it's enjoyable it's nice to have little things around your house that if you stumble on and you're like you know what i'm going to use this today like it might even because i'm taking it that you don't use these on the daily you just implied that yeah um but still like you someday you just might need a little smile and you'll be you know putting some dishes away and you'll see them and maybe you'll make your coffee or tea in there i love that shit mostly i'm

drinking out of coffee cups that my daughter has given me this has kind of become our sort of christmas tradition of her giving me like two years ago she gave me this really great it's like made by some japanese designer and it has a little lid that goes on the cup and i love it because it keeps your coffee warm and she has one and it's kind of fun this year she gave me a cup that is like somebody on instagram does this art where it's it's clearly kind of a a knockoff of the peanuts cartoons um but drawn kind of slightly more crudely so it's almost like a meta commentary on peanuts and you've got lucy in her little advice thing and then you've got woodstock who's sitting there just kind of speaking woodstock's weird language which is just all like hash marks you know and then lucy's advice is darlin don't you go and cut your hair do you think it's going to make him change which is like a real melding of things that i like which is peanuts and the

music of pavement what i'm hearing here is that far guild has a chance out there in the art and

design world absolutely i didn't realize it was a whole hipster thing to sort of crudely draw an existing property you can already do you've been doing that for years this is exactly like that though my guess is this person is doing it much more intentionally than i am um i tried to draw

all you have to do is say you did it intentionally and then bingo bango bongo you're a famous designer

i know that's my mistake also andrew i am i am unusually terrible at drawing like it's

amazing how bad i am i think you're better than me for whatever that's what i don't i don't think so

at all. I've seen your doodles. I've seen your robot

doodles. They're so much better. All I do is a robot because it's straight lines. I could not do your Far Gild. For people who don't know, I mean, I think you can pick it up from context. You understand? Luke can draw Garfield. I practiced that

thousands of times as a kid, and it's still terrible. It looks like Matt Groening drew Garfield from memory. It's got much more like life in hell going on than Jim Davis ever intended. But like, yeah, I am just, I was giving becca a card for valentine's day and uh one of the presents was a ticket to a concert that we're going to go to and i wanted to just draw that like classic kind of idea of a ticket that says like you know admit one or whatever yeah yeah there's there's actually a little half moon cut out on each side of it on the narrow exactly you remember it's actually a quarter moon you remember the ones that i so i did a google image search of this andrew i'm sitting in my car after buying the card i but i'm like i'm gonna really actually commit to this i'm gonna draw this ticket in the card so that it feels like there's something else kind of fun going on but i was like i'm not going to freehand this completely from memory because it will be terrible so i go to google image search and i find the classic ticket it says admit one it's got the name of the event like you said it's got the little it's sort of like a rectangle but the corners oh i'm looking at two different ones

you know i was picturing the kind where yeah you're talking about the quarter moons on the corners but there's also the kind where there's the half moon in the sides of it if you can picture that as well like the corners should have drawn that one because and this is the problem i'm

drawing this in a card in pen and it's the only card i have so i google image search it then i do a practice drawing of it on a random piece of paper in my car and then the moment oh you're doing it in the car yeah i mean have you ever filled out a card not in the car near the location

where you're giving the card to someone well i i have i know that feeling of doing it in the car i don't i've never tried i call that filling out a card i have never drawn anything in a card in a

car though that sounds tricky it was it was terrible as soon as the other problem is i'm i get very nervous about writing in a card by hand because that's the only time i write any anything other than like a note to myself yeah or like a reminder so i get i actually forget how letters are formed i'm not kidding like when i'm just writing if i'm if i'm just keeping notes for myself or writing something on like a script to remind myself it's not uncommon for me to like lose a letter somewhere because i'm just writing it in a way that my brain will remember what this is a reference to and it's a it's a i don't i have terrible handwriting and i have at this point pretty bad spelling and whatever so the writing the message in the card is really stressful but then also um yeah the drawing i'd never tried that before so i did a practice drawing and then i went to do the real thing and it was like pretty much when the pen hit the paper of

the card things started to go sideways like and you're nervous too which makes it even i'm nervous and that's making it so much worse no i totally can imagine this i mean first of all like cards generally speaking i i'm i'm that way it's very rare that i i fill out cards these days much no joke to the chagrin of my family but um they're big they come from they come from card stock

gotcha gotcha you should open your next a meeting with that hey i'm here to learn it's george washington is writing a card anyway alexander hamilton but here's one thing like

i actually i when i'm careful with my handwriting i have decent handwriting i like my handwriting but i have to you know slow down and think about it and you can get in this mode when you're like writing a it's so rare that we write handwritten letters or cards anymore that you can be focusing so much in the art of the handwriting in a way that you can also easily misspell something because you like you know like the word genevieve has a lot of e's and v's you know um anyway uh i I was just trying to make sure it did have more than one V in it. It does. I'm not good at math or phonics. Yeah. Anyway, what I was going to say was that reminds me of something that we did a lot as kids that I have not done in a long time. And I don't know if this is still true of the youth of today. But how often were you writing things out in pencil, then re-inking over them as a child? I feel like posters for school, cards to family members around the holidays, what have you. I feel like that was a practice that was employed a lot in my youth. You pencil it out first, and you trace over it with ink.

I never had the self-discipline for that kind of stuff. I would just go full, just freehand that Fargild in pen and just hope, let God sort them out.

And that's you making a prison tat on the playground. That's you poking. A stick and poke? Yeah, someone at the bottom of the slide.

That would be dope if Angelina Lopez had a stick and poke from me at Fargild.

I love that. be worth something i see a line like the the um clients the customers sit at the bottom of the slide and you you work on them there they roll up their sleeve there's a line in the shit pit

is that what you had these like two on the playscape at my elementary school we had these two enormous like tires that were like you know had been on some kind of massive earth moving machine and but so now you know they were now just a play thing they were on their side and they were massive you could fit like you know 20 kids inside of this tire that it's like so you had like the the playscape it was called which was like had stairs and uh like a sliding pole like a fire pole you could slide down and all kinds of cool stuff and you could jump if you were really brave instead of just sliding down the fire pole you could leap from that platform and land on one of the tires because it was rubber and it was you know kind of sort of fairly whatever um there's wood chips everywhere i guess that was also that was a big safety technology in the 80s you know what we'll put some wood chips down they'll be all right yeah my but so sprinkled them at the bottom of my bunk bed just in case they were like but the rumor was that some kid had had taken a crap in one of the tires and so that one was always known as the shit pit so it was like oh yeah okay i'll meet you at the shit pit we always called one of the two tires the shit because of a rumor no one had seen this themselves it's probably been the rumor as long as the school was there but i mean it's a strong brand i mean whether or not it's a

positive brand is another question but i mean it's a strong brand i mean i like to think that the kids still call it that at that school except i have a feeling that some crossfitters probably came along and moved just grab those tires some spartan racers just flipped that thing right on

down aurora avenue just the instinct just kicked in there's also raises the question you got two pits one of them is called the shit pit one of them is not called the shit pit you're meeting

at the shit well that's where you can have conversations in private you can avoid you can avoid the crowd speaking of by the way i was gonna say i have something that'll make you happy i don't think this will make you happy you don't you don't wish for ill in my life at least i don't think so but um i know that you have kind of a theory about people stepping in dog poop a lot in the more in the in the 80s or i don't know if it was because we were children or the 80s i think it was the time but Boy, did I get a hadn't happened to me in a long time. But boy, did I step in a mess this weekend. I cannot figure out when or how it happened. And also because I'm a shoes on house. This is like everybody who like makes fun of me for being a shoes on house should be like celebrating their moral victory here. I did not end up tracking any into the house. And that's what I cannot figure out. Like how I noticed it. Whatever. I was running. I was making a bunch of errands this weekend and I got in the car during one of them. And also I noticed like there is a stench in the car. And I'm like, I think that stench is coming from. Oh, no, that's the worst. Yeah, and then it was true. And, like, it was bad. And, like, somehow it was, sorry, enjoy your breakfast or lunch. But, like, it was kind of smeared on top of the shoe, too, somehow. I can't figure that out. But it was only in one. It was a real mess. I had to go outside. I didn't know what to do. I need a better industrial scrub brush because my only recourse here was I filled a bucket full of really hot water and soap, fabuloso. And I took my toilet bowl cleaner brush and I went outside. And I brushed the hell out of these shoes Cleaned them as best I could And then I put them in the washing machine by themselves And washed them And they're drying out upstairs now I think everything's going to be fine They're my really old, they're my work shoes They're not for wearing anywhere nice But yeah, just straight up God, I literally cannot remember the last time I've had to deal with that

It's been a long time for me as well But it's because it's like my number It remains at age 46 My number one goal in life is not stepping in dog poop It also helps, yeah, that we've culturally really shifted things around that like i just don't think it occurred to anyone to pick up your dog poop when i was a kid it was very just there wasn't all of the you know they didn't have poop bags everywhere they didn't have signs saying you know curb your dog um and and yeah it was a big part of life as a kid now when i'm like out in my neighborhood jogging if i have to cut across like a parking strip as we call it here what do you call it a tree what do you oh i call them

tree lawns the little area yeah outside somebody's house that's between the sidewalk and the street

yeah like if i have to take two steps on one of those i'm just staring at the ground like making sure i'm not stepping in it because it's just the absolute yeah it's just the worst and when you get that initial realization like when you get in the car you're like god what is that smell or something the car is often a big indicator because it's a kind of closed it's like a hermetically sealed environment yep so all of a sudden you're like wait who is that is that me what and then you look down and then there's also that moment of realization when you just look down at your shoe and you realize yep that happened and then you just know that like the

next hour of your life is gonna suck yep yep it reminds me a little bit I don't want to tell the whole story because I've told it too many times on the show I think but that time when I was a little kid it was like during the day it was a rare moment where we had a babysitter during the day for some reason my mom must have had an appointment somewhere and me and my sister and the babysitter were all playing outside but it was in the country and i could smell the manure from a farm over it was a very common smell growing up in the country was manure wafting from some farm or another but it was so strong and i couldn't believe that the babysitter and my sister didn't smell it and it wasn't bothering them as much and then they're like well go inside then i went inside and it was so much worse inside i was like how could it be worse in here and i'm freaking out and they thought i was nuts until they realized i had a bunch of duck shit in my hair yeah in your hair in my hair i was i was noodling around like a little squirmy kid underneath the picnic table just doing whatever rubbing my head in the ground as you do and uh and i then later on realized eventually right yeah and then later on realized oh yeah that's where our ducks hang out we had outdoor ducks we didn't have any indoor ducks but uh yeah like there's i going into that i kind of went inside but it was like this little room off the garage and be like, no, it's worse in here. It's following me. It was me.

Oh, the shit was coming from inside the hair.

True. Not a show title, but true.

All right. Let's take a quick break here on this President's Day. I need to keep saying that. So if we wrap up early, no one's mad at us. Although we'll probably go three hours because that's what always happens when we endeavor to do a slightly shorter show. So anyway, back with more TBTL in just a moment.

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready, ready, go! Everybody rattle, dattle, everybody rattle.

Hey, let's thank some dazzling donors who are keeping TVTL going with their dazzling amount of dough that they're donating each month. Folks like Stephanie Broad, the pronouncer is Broad like Broadway, not Broad like the Broad Museum.

That's a good clarification, yeah.

Thank you for the clarification, if you've ever... The Broad is in L.A., right? Yeah. I believe. Stephanie Broad is in Portland, Oregon and says, hello dear internet friendos I would like to do a shout out slash a hey check this out for my wonderful brother in law Josiah Johnson he's one of the founding members of the Head and the Heart but left for personal reasons is now a solo act well kind of he's always playing with friends he does tour regularly so if you see him come into your city go check him out his vibes are the best and he's come a long way i'm super proud of him uh world's not gonna end and hello hello on fire are two of my faves those i assume are songs by josiah now i know this about josiah because i believe we had him on livewire oh during the pandemic and he was playing uh from i think like san francisco and it was great he was just absolutely

wonderful nice i'm not i'm not familiar but i'll check it out you've heard of the head and the heart though yeah of course yep sure seattle big seattle band they're a major biggie oh you know

what no sorry it's not josiah the one that we interviewed the other guy from the head and the

heart oh i'm now googling now you have to book josiah what are you doing 100 now that we know

he's a free agent we'll put him right on yeah exactly but yeah we love the head and the heart and and all the uh ancillary acts um also stephanie wants to say best books of 2022 can we play a game

with this because i'm pretty sure i could be wrong speaking of livewire i read this list last week when i grabbed this dazzling donor message yeah and i'm pretty sure this is a tic-tac-toe or not a tic-tac-toe but a bingo game of who you've had on livewire definitely some

overlap here first of all we'll go we'll go uh from fifth to first oh nice i like that good so fifth is brickmakers by selva almada not livewire right not a livewire guest i'm not i'm not uh sure about that book i mean in that i'm not aware of it i'm sure it's great uh number four the art of losing by alice zeniter i'm gonna say i haven't read that book but it's making a lot of lists i've seen the art of losing all over not a person we've had online okay number three crying in h-mart michelle's honor aka japanese breakfast we very much have had michelle on the show that was a big big book in 2022 uh and then a number two on uh stephanie's list virgin with a memory

by sophia al maria is that a live wire guest i was not a live wire guest unless maybe i was out

for a week and they interviewed sophia without me knowing that was one that was on the edge for me

i couldn't i could go either way with that one with my live wire game i couldn't remember number

one is definitely a live wire guest and a friend of the show it's the book is a little devil in America and it's by Hanif Abdur-Aqib. I think I might have even recommended it once on the Hey Dummies video. So by the way, Stephanie, I was cool before you were. This is how I motivate the listeners to keep donating money. No. And Hanif is a pal of LiveWire and that book, A Little Devil in America, is really good. It's kind of like a really interesting meditation on black performance in American history and what it signifies and how it's come about and what folks have had to do to you know sort of be part of american culture uh as people who are black so would recommend i'll recommend the two of those books that i've read which is hanif's book and michelle's book those are both really good and then stephanie wraps things up by saying buy local two exclamation points so you've got your marching orders everyone uh go check out josiah johnson when he comes to a town near you read those books from stephanie and also buy local and local does

not mean Amazon just because you live in Seattle. What if I pick it up at a Whole Foods? Okay, that's fine. Maestro?

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody rattle, rattle.

We've also got to thank Clive McCartney. Clive, pronounced like Clive Owen or Clive Cussler. McCartney, pronounced like Jesse McCartney, the singer.

Is that a real person?

That is a real person, but I don't think Clive says, like, Paul McCartney. And Clive is down in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Clive says, is it weird that I have a TBTL mugs, a TBTL bumper sticker, a T-shirt, tonight pants, a garbage can on my desk, and that I listen to this every damn day at 1.5 speed? Huh, that's interesting. I wonder if that makes the show more listenable. Listening to it at 1.5 speed. I wonder if that helps.

I feel like you're fine on that speed. I feel like I would be a little rough When I go back and listen to the show My biggest complaint with myself is I'm Rat-a-tat-tatting too fast often And then in rat-a-tat-tatting too quickly Saying the wrong words sometimes So I feel like if you sped me up That would be rough But I mean it's working for Clive

They've got a system where Only I am sped up by 1.5

And it actually slows you down I could see that being a technology In the future

Speed up one person on the podcast

It just tends to talk a little bit slower

Or slow down a person Who talks kind of fast Clive says Maybe it is weird but I like it And I appreciate Luke, Andrew and the APM folk As well as all the myriad other characters Genevieve Becca, Bubbles Bingo And Camaro Kev

Shout out to Camaro.

Bringing up the rear after the cats.

Love it. Thank you for all you do. If this is weird, I will continue to be weird. And then Clive says, one final thing. Looking to pitch a CBS Sunday morning piece about the Palm Beach boat show. I can get you access.

That could be interesting. That sounds like a weekend. That sounds like a junket. Just say you're going to do this story and go to the Palm Beach boat show with Clive. I love it.

I read a really good, I think it was Evan Osnos, who's writing. i really like writing about the luxury yacht industry was a new yorker piece and it is wild what is going on with some of these you know these i'm assuming the in palm beach florida i'm assuming the palm beach boat show is just a testament to conspicuous consumption and i say that with peace and love but i cannot even begin to imagine some of the super yachts that come in and out of there

Do you think anybody's ever done cocaine at the Palm Beach Boat Show? No. That's actually one of the requirements for getting in.

I have a feeling Clive might work there.

No, no, no. I said no. I think no, nobody would have ever done that is what my own life. Don't anger Clive. It was all eaten by the cocaine bear. Are you familiar with this new project? I am, yes. Of course, the movie, right?

I just found out about it this weekend, and it seems kind of intriguing.

there was a i think they had a i had heard about it because they were talking about it on levitard a while back but um i think um i think they had a super bowl commercial for cocaine bear i didn't

go back and watch it but i definitely did but i think it was like sort of towards the end of or somehow i think near the beginning i think oh really well then i guess i just wasn't paying close it might have been right before it might have been right before or something no no i do remember that because dude this is so funny i was like well r.i.p ray leota because he's prominently featured in the trailer so i was like oh man that's ray leota this must have been maybe one of his last projects and then i thought like did they like cgi ice cube into this like what is going on and now i'm looking at the credits it's ice cubes kid oh i didn't know that jr i

didn't know that but i was gonna say yeah because they they look very similar right yeah i was like

That's weird because it's Ice Cube, but he looks a little younger. He looks different than Ice Cube, but he's Ice Cube. And that, of course, would be because it's O'Shea Jackson Jr., who plays the David character. And then there's also a guy from Game of Thrones, like Torquist or something. You know, the big old red bearded badass.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's got a crush on Brianna or whatever her name was. Yeah, Christopher. Giant's Bane. His name is Tormund Giantsbane, I want to say. I might not be getting that exactly right, but I take it for an Andrew on a Monday. I'm going to say Tormund Giantsbane is as close as I'm going to get.

Major Andrew W. Monday. We love it.

I wanted to just say one other thing, too. I'm sorry about making the joke about drugs. I know that nobody does drugs at the boat show. I was just joking about that. But I also want to say when I see Clive's name, I cringe a little bit because Clive is one of the many people who corrected me like i think that clive literally maybe destroyed a phone or two when we had our conversation about and sorry for the um rough language kiddos but uh bollocks because i always thought it was pronounced bollocks and you were correcting me on the show and i was like okay fine but i'm gonna keep saying bollocks because that's how i've always said it and i think clive was just like beside himself with anger about that as somebody who who i believe is is from england

Oh, that would make sense. Clive McCartney sounds very British to me. So that would check out. Sorry, Clive.

I think of you every time I hear that word.

I will pitch my bosses on a Palm Beach boat show story and see if I can get down there to Florida. And thank you so much to both Clive and Stephanie for supporting TBTL. Hello and welcome to Top Story. I saw a piece in the New York Times today written by Remy Tumann, how one President's Day became President's Day. And the point of that is where the apostrophe goes, President's Day versus President's Day.

Yes, plural versus singular, amen, yes.

Yeah, exactly. Or even I think they got into it being the, like, plural possessive or something. Oh, possessive. That was really stretching the edge of my grammar brain, which is pretty bad just generally. But this is why I was saying that George Washington, Andrew, and you have something in common, which is because what they write about in this piece was that basically like the way that this whole thing got started was during the Revolutionary War, they used to celebrate George Washington's birthday at the battlefield. and they were just making it a thing because he was a pretty, you know, obviously popular guy, but he was doing it not because he likes.

celebrating his birthday but because it was a morale booster for the troops and the nation this is what a historian said washington did not love the limelight he did not have patience for excessive praise or nostalgia but he understood the importance of myth making he was well aware that he was a unifying figure by a 1778 as washington was leading the continental army against the british his vision for what a birthday celebration could mean for a new country began to change when he and his men were stationed at valley forge in pennsylvania a group of drummers and fifers celebrated his birthday with a performance in front of his quarters so he didn't he was it sounds like and one of these other biographers says um uh in all of her years of researching washington um uh let's say she said she'd never come across any reference uh to his birthday in his diary so he would keep he kept a diary every day and he was more likely they said to write about the weather on his birthday he was more apt to chronicle the weather on his birthday than any present he would ever receive unless it was a mule well you know you're gonna write about that i mean i'd write about that i'd start keeping a diary if i got a mule the mule diaries but like you know what i mean so in other words the i what they're saying is that he was not sitting there in his diary being like oh my god it's my half birthday omg it's my birthday month omg it's two days from my birthday today was my birthday it was so fun he didn't give us didn't give two craps about it thanks but he realized that it was maybe important for the nation the other thing i didn't realize until i will two other things i didn't know until i read this article one was that part of why george washington did not want to seek a third term as president was because he was getting older and he did not want to die in office because he he was the first president and And if he dies in office and there's some weird appointment of the next president, it's not like the election and the peaceful transition of power and all the things that are very important about this American, you know, experiment. He knew if he died in office, it wasn't just going to be a straight up normal election. It was going to be some other weird handoff or someone will be appointed. He didn't want that to be the first transition of power in this country, which was really smart of him. And then the other thing was for the first check this out. This is how long ago this dude was living in America. For the first 20 years of his life, George Washington celebrated his birthday on February 11th, which was the day he was born in 1731. But that was according to the Julian calendar. His birthday was moved in 1752 when the British Parliament adopted the Gregorian calendar to reflect a more accurate length of the solar year. As a result, all earlier dates were shifted by one year and 11 days.

I'm a little confused. i'm a little foggy today too so my apologies the british parliament changed the calendar and that affected george washington's birthday well he was 20 at the time oh i see okay i did miss that

dazzling deet okay so when he was 20 and presumably everyone else that was living under the control of the british empire at in in in 1752 all of a sudden your birthday shifted by

one year and 11 days which is weird man people really go with the flow back then weren't they can you imagine doing that today somebody's just like oh hey i'm changing your birthday okay

sounds good and everything else right well i guess it would just be birthdays but like i was gonna say like you know any kind of recurring thing it was all presumably going to shift because they were going from the gregorian uh sorry they were going julian to the julian

to the gregorian calendar man they must have had some sort of plug-in for their google calendars right yeah that everybody switched over because otherwise that would be such a mess real y2k

situation yeah exactly you just had a ton of people um working on the project for like a year leading up to the switch over just going back in and with like a with a feather and a quill and an ink well just going back and correcting all the dates on everything presumably under candlelight

while drinking mead just writing out do you accept our terms of service we've changed what i feel like around the around around the holidays i i'm assuming it had to do with the new year i started getting blasted with emails from all kinds of i don't know like i guess websites that i subscribe to just saying that we've updated our terms of service like did you get a bunch of those

yes and it's so annoying because it's like it's always a communication from an entity that i didn't ever ask to communicate with me or if i did i didn't realize i was doing it yeah and it's like why are you bothering like you're a thing you're like a thing i bought one time on instagram and now you're just like showing up to tell me one thing

about this that i don't even really care about um it's i find it to be generally annoying when

Thank you.

they're saying they're updating i mean legally they have to i guess and that's kind of what's going on there but it's it it's always an annoyance in my day and it feels like it's

happening a lot lately yeah you get emails from peacock we've updated our terms of service you cool with this it's like peacock peacock when did i sign up for peacock i get very annoyed too when

i see on i hope people don't feel this way about tbtl but when i see the charge that's going out of my account for like disney plus oh which i only got because i wanted to watch the mandadorian with

my nephews no see i don't yeah i don't do you got to cancel that unless you're using it it's this is

andrew i told you i have a goldfish brain i see that it'll be like a saturday and i'm going somewhere and it's like my paypal account or whatever will send me an auto-generated email that says your disney plus payment went through and i look and i think i gotta change that and then i go on with my day and i do not think about it for 29 more days until it happens again you

know what you should do then share that password with me if you're paying for it you might as well get some use out of it because i think that gives you access to if you have yes or if you have disney plus doesn't that have access to a bunch of espn stuff that you probably don't even need because

you also have cable very possible i mean yeah it's um it's it's frustrating by the way i want to say one quick thing about an interaction you and i had right before the show started andrew which was i know that you and veves were working you were doing a little bathroom remodeling yeah your basement bathroom and because veves had sent me and road in some updates because we're kind of

on a little like oh you knew about that i thought i was telling you oh okay i didn't know i only

Because Veeves had sent us a message, because basically me and Veeves and Rodin have a side chat going about home remodeling. That makes sense. Rodin did a huge kitchen remodel, and so was sending us pictures, and Veeves will send us stuff. Sadly, I've been kind of quiet on the feed, because everything is taking way longer than I'm expecting out of this project that I'm doing. So Veeves has given me a heads up. But then you sent me an update about like a light fixture that you were considering trying to figure out if it should go with the bulbs down or the bulbs up.

Yeah, I mean, it's clearly bulbs down, but there were some markings on it that made it seem like it could be bulbs up. And I thought maybe it was like an ardier way of hanging this thing. But I like bulbs down. No, it's definitely bulbs down.

I feel embarrassed even on the bottom struck me as kind of like they wouldn't design it that way. I don't think like I mean the actual cords that are going to the fixtures or to the fixture I don't think they would design it so those are on the bottom well those are just sticking out the

back I think they're just bent a certain way those are just going to be in the wall don't they go

into the oh really oh I thought they were going into the bottom of the this is like the world's

worst yeah no no it's just going to those are going into a hole we're not supposed to be here today I want to just really clarify that yeah don't worry about the cords but um the but yeah It's ridiculous to think that they would go bulbs up. I'm embarrassed to even ask. But I just. No, no, no. I was.

I made me feel close to you. It made me feel like you think I have some appreciation for bulbs for for bulbs. And that you were like, some of them dim, some of them brighter than others. But like you're just being like, hey, what do you think of this? I was like, oh, I'm I'm honored that you're having me weigh in on this. Oh, good. But so anyway, this was the thing you said. Oh, by the way, I'm going to send you a picture of the bathroom remodel. And you said maybe this will come up on the show or something. and then you sent me the picture and i was looking at it and i was like i don't know what to tell my friend this looks exactly the same like and also this was the these are the pictures they came with this looks exactly like am i what am i what am i forgetting and then also like um it looks like

it doesn't look like shit it looks like a piece of junk that was pulled out of a of a dumpster because I'm pretty sure that whoever threw this bathroom together before we bought it, I think, I'm not even joking, I think they bought this vanity and this sink and stuff probably from a junkyard or something. It was terrible. The drawers were just sort of resting in there. It has paint splatter all over it. It's like the grossest kind of press board you can imagine.

It's not that it's gross. In fact, when we moved into Burbank Springs in Bellingham, both of the basement bathrooms were like this exact kind of faux wood you know with like um you know whatever kind of situation going on but you you were telling me you go we still need to put the fixture in but here's a picture and you send me a picture and it's just like i'm like this is this was their these was their upgrade but by the way the fixture is missing so what i'm seeing is what i think is your photo i didn't know there was a

second photo yeah i sent you a before and after and you were looking at the before it took a long

time for the after to come through and i was really trying to practice being impressed with your remodeling job even though it was i was like i can't believe

this was the this was the vanity and the this was the mirror and the sink and everything that they they picked this okay and then i was just like well to each their own and then of course eventually the second picture came it looks great by the way thank you new mirror is really cool i love the new vanity um the floors were already good so that's kind of nice you'd have to mess with that um no it looks really good down there but i really was like ah god this is going to be awkward i'm going to have to just like i guess just like let andrew live andrew and genevieve and if they want to choose like a weird like early 1990s kind of pattern for their bathroom i mean that's their

choice it's their home i am so happy to have like that was i i was so dismayed by and i think maybe i was being a you know potentially a little snobby about it as you said when you came over the first time you're like first of all basement bathrooms are measured by a different standard like just absolutely like we've all heard of the pittsburgh toilet or at least we should have um and so you know but i remember being like i don't even want to set up down here i'm just going to use the upstairs bathroom with genevieve until we remodel this thing that was march of last year i mean this will be the first project which meant you know ripping out the medicine cabinet ripping out the fixture that was above it ripping out the entire sink and vanity and everything we wanted to paint the wall which we did we painted kind of an accent wall back there it didn't seem like and like over the like we went to Home Depot I think you know still in March or certainly early spring we we've had this vanity in our garage for almost a year Genevieve bought this light fixture the last thing we need to hang up like she got it it's the one thing that is sort of authentic that isn't like a Home Depot sort of like paint by numbers kind of thing we got a retro sort of looking medicine cabinet but that's just from like I don't know not way fair but something like that and then But she did find this light fixture that you were talking about. That's, like, legitimately from some – she got it at some resale shop, you know, where you can go and buy doors and appliances and lockers and all kinds of things that when businesses switch hands, they sell them to these second-hand stores. We went to a couple a couple of weekends ago. They were amazing. I love those places. Anyway, Genevieve got some sort of cool light fixture because I wanted sort of a quasi-industrial feel for this bathroom, and she found this great light fixture. but it wasn't meant for home installation so she's been engineering this this rig to hang it

on our wall is it on a different like is it a different voltage or amperage rather the the

electricity should be fine it's just that it doesn't i mean when you do buy things it's amazing like when you buy things from home depot and you realize oh so much of this stuff is so plug and play in a certain way like things are so standardized like one one hose for um the sink I was trying to mostly reuse the hardware from my old sink like underneath I mean like the pipes and stuff and one of them was like slightly too short to get my hot water connected this weekend so I had to go back to Lowe's and like it's so simple like they're all like they're you don't have to choose everything is pretty standardized you know you just find a slightly longer hose but everything's going to fit nicely whatever but this light fixture is not made for just home installation like it just there's no way to hang it on a wall it might have been in who knows where this fixture was used before probably some more commercial setting and so Genevieve like it has been has spent months and months like figuring out going to hardware stores asking questions being talked down to in some cases um and but like eventually has come up with this whole plan for like installing these metal rails on the wall which then we can hang the the and when I say we I mean her she can hang the fixture on and that's the one thing that sort of seems like it's like kind of she we sort of reclaimed that um because i was thinking about that like even though i love the way this bathroom looks i don't think that you would install any of this stuff i feel like for your house everything will be authentic or designy in some way like i don't see you just

less so as the cost continues to mount like i want everything to just be like yeah some cool you know like very i don't know again intentionally you know sourced like i want it to be in dwell magazine or something and as as everything goes out i'm like you know what whatever like the whatever they got down there at the home depot might not be so bad yeah but this is a huge

improvement for us i'm really excited to get that fixture in there and uh it's just it was one of those things where we put it off and like during the summer we're like well we don't want to spend a whole weekend indoors when it's nice out there's stuff to do in the yard and then all winter it's like the holidays or this or that and i can't believe that we did this in two pretty short days from like ripping everything out painting the wall installing it like just digging in once you dig into it it just creates its own momentum absolutely now was the plumbing challenging at all to get it all hooked back up no that was my that was my kind of contribution and again plumbing i want to make sure that i make this clear because i sort of said this when i was messing around with my kitchen sink earlier this year late last year um that there's a lot of that stuff that would be so so far beyond me but for the most part the very basics of plumbing like just...

under a sink plumbing doesn't intimidate me that much because it just seems like it's just like you just follow the chain sort of it's like audio I think I said this to you on the show before it's much like figuring out audio problems I just follow the audio chain just like well water's gonna drip here got to go down here okay do that make sure everything's tight okay water's got to come out of the wall here you know what I mean like that didn't that didn't intimidate me except for the fact that one of my hoses was too short but that's a personal problem yeah I think that

that's also the result of the technology around plumbing really improving yeah because i just remember being in my early 20s and having like you know just many a crummy apartment where it'd be like leaking and if you had like a a bad landlord maybe sometimes you try to mess with it yourself and it was like you think you had it all set back or even actually when i had bought a house in la and i was i was the bad landlord trying to like remodel a bathroom and we had like a guest house behind the house and like it was like it just wasn't nearly as um kind of plug and play as it

is now yeah i want to make it yeah i will reiterate that again like that whatever whatever i've been up against in this house so far has been so basic i mean you know clip this and play it back for me when you know there's water seeping through my walls for some reason and i'm freaking out about it i'm not trying to say that but i'm just saying that yeah they make everything so plug and play underneath these sinks now that it's pretty pretty standardized i'm super uh jealous that that you

all are that you all made the decision to buy a house that had walls that was a really honestly

that we made a decision not to tear down the walls is the difference well i guess that my house did

have walls at one time so i guess it's kind of on me but like like uh i mean just that i am i'm dreaming of when i can actually like go buy a toilet and uh uh you know a sink and like kind of actually start putting stuff in the next two things that have to happen on the tbtl studio slash adu is um the uh insulation i have to well first i have to put in what's called blocking because what's what's happened is although this is this is just like what used to be the garage not even talking about the main house but it's all like everything is torn out and and all the electrical is run and all the plumbing is run in the walls but now we need to come back through and put in some some plot like some um uh like two by fours in certain places so there's something to attach the sheetrock to when it's ready for that and then once that is in then the guys come through and they spray in like an insulation foam that has a super high r value and then after that the sheetrock can go on and then we can panel the ceiling and then you just have then i'll just have a big empty room that i can begin to finally actually put like a toilet in the bathroom and tile the shower and stuff like that i'm just still so far from even getting to that point like you

are putting an accent walls i'm like ah must be nice walls this is a this is a small thing i sort of alluded to it when i was trying to describe the types of things you find in these um resale shops we ended up not buying a used one we're again buying kind of a new version of this that we will assemble but my my final um the thing i'm most excited about for this bathroom is i needed some sort of shelving in there and just some storage space there's like this weird sort of dead spot when you first walk in the door and so we did buy some lockers for it so i think that's gonna like kind of like that's the vibe i wanted for this like this is my bathroom down here that I'm the one who mostly uses it on a daily basis and for me to be able to keep my like my towels and my clothes all in there but in lockers and kind of a I don't know whatever you would describe that vibe as being I'm very excited about that that's going to be the final the final and you got those lockers from the like salvage place surplus place no we looked at them there there were some that must have been used in like a Rudy's or a pot shop or something like you know how like sometimes you'll see employee locker rooms or use a restroom in a public space and you see that the employees have little lockers in there. we found some lockers at this resale place that had like um stickers all over them like i just like you know i don't know it just seemed like something you would find in some capitol hill bar or something um and i was like okay we can buy this peel all the stickers off do a spray paint job um which is i believe how contractors describe spray painting something um but then we measured it out and they wouldn't fit anyway so then we just like kind of cheaped out and just went online and Genevieve bought something like last night and so it's going to be delivered. We're going to assemble it. So it's not authentic. You can't look at the rings where one time there was a fire but it was forged and crafted or whatever. It's just some bullshit. But it's going to be nice though and it's going to be a great storage solution. Well, I'm glad

to see you're getting the basement all kind of fixed up and to your liking because I may have to live there if I run out of money on this project. You can use Genevieve's bathroom.

Thank you. Here I go once again with the email every week. I hope that it's from a female no man it's not from a female

I'll All right. And do you have any President's Day emails or emails or people sending in lots of messages and thoughts on this holiday?

You know, I don't think so. I did. I saw one voicemail come in this morning. I didn't I didn't have a chance to listen to it. I hope it wasn't President's Day related.

And I was I was definitely joking.

What if it's somebody telling my Washington joke? What if I just stole somebody else's George Washington joke and I didn't start playing it in the voicemail line? and I just opened the show with it. All I could think at the beginning of the show

is how different would my life have been if instead of attending Gospel Outreach Christian Fellowship, I'd just been attending an AA meeting when I was a kid. I wonder if that would have set me up better for my adult life.

Yeah, would you be drinking more or less now?

I gotta think less. I don't think it could be more.

Medically, I don't think it could be more. All right, let me do something here quickly. A long time ago, I told you, I think going back a few years, I printed out a list of all of the presidents of the United States of America, and I would carry it around in my coat pockets. I actually had two copies of it, small, like, wallet-sized little lists that would fold up. And I actually had one for each coat, one for my winter coat, one for my spring coat. And I would try to memorize the presidents in order. And then I totally dropped the ball on them. I had them memorized, and then I forgot them. You know, if you don't, like, keep reminding yourself the list, if you remember something just by rote, it just all atrophied. A couple of weekends ago, Genevieve and I were driving, and she was quizzing me again. And so I've got, can I see how, I think I know how far up I can go, but can you open up a list of the presidents of the United States, starting with number one?

Okay.

Okay, tell me when you're ready. I'm going to see how high I can go. I think I can make it to six or seven, which isn't much in the grand scheme of things. You ready?

Okay, hold on when I'm getting there. Okay, tell me when you're ready. Gotcha, I gotcha. Yep.

Okay. Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, John Quincy Adams, Andrew Jackson. All white guys, by the way. Wait, wait for it. We'll get there.

As I'm looking, a lot of white guys, a lot of white guys running this country in the early days slash all the days.

You know, I never noticed that, but now that you say it. Okay, so it's Andrew Jackson, I believe, after J.Q.A. You're hot, my friend. So I don't know what number that is, but now things are... Oh, shit. I think that's... I don't know if this will help you. Can you give me a hint? Yeah, because I feel like with a hint, I can get it.

This guy... Well, first of all, it's a photograph of him, which the other ones have been paintings. And also, he's bald, but he has furious, furious mutton chops.

Oh, a lot of them have the mutton chops. In fact, that is a good clue because Genevieve and I were saying that there's some guy who sounds like he would have mutton chops. And I think, like, doesn't his name evoke mutton chops in a certain way?

Well, it's hard for me to separate them now because I'm, yes, I'm looking at him. Yeah, that's his name. This won't help you, but there's a kid on The Simpsons who goes to Bart's school that has the same first name.

oh okay um milton nope no close you're close oh no no well millhouse no that's not that's what

there's another guy who's kind of like a little he sort of gets bullied a bit because he's a you know he's a sensitive and smart boy president wiggum yes his name is blank prince is the name of the simpsons character but that name is the first name of this president just tell me it's

driving me martin van buren van buren yes and genevieve gave me a little uh dazzling doot about him historically that i'm forgetting now so good job i guess uh on me but um yeah van buren that's where i need to pick this up again i really want because here's the deal in learning about the presence i want to be able to remember them not just as a list but eventually like start to remember like it'll help me remember the list if i can remember some things about them and then that will be a way of me remembering history which i'm really bad at now here's what's fun as you're getting closer and closer to the modern day it's start it's all downhill right so my question for you is how far back can you go from the present day without even really having to try very hard to start naming the presidents in order like obviously you can do it from hw bush obviously you can probably do it from bush probably carter sadly yeah oh yeah maybe gerald ford I think I can I'm not going to do it here because there'll be too much pressure I think once you're up to FDR I'm good or actually I can even say because did Wilson come before FDR I might be messing that up but one definitely once you're at FDR because you can remember everything about world you know World War II how it ended and then getting into like the the you know the Eisenhower you know he was a general like once you can start connecting all Thank you. of those dots because you know something about that period it's easy and so that's what i'm trying to say like it like once i get certainly fdr and i'm trying to remember who was before him it wasn't oh it was hoover right it was because again hoover you have hoovervilles the country was yes dire poverty and then wow good under fdr so i think from hoover on it's like i barely have to think bread at that and it'd be really cool if i can remember little nuggets like that throughout the history of this country and then and then remember the president so that's my goal i'm sure i'll have the same goddamn conversation with you exactly one year from today unless they change the calendars on us and i'll remember exactly the same amount in doing some reading about the

president today i believe that harry truman and i have the same birthday may 8th oh interesting

so i can add that interesting yeah i would i'm not trying to insult you i just realized i might have thrown way too much i might put too much english on that interesting because you know

it's notable i guess speaking of presidents it sounds like jimmy carter is uh is is transitioning towards the end of his life yeah he's in hospice care uh i i got a chance to meet jimmy carter jimmy and rosalind carter a long time ago when i was doing a story about their son jack carter who was running for senate and you know like everybody who met jimmy carter has a story like this but it was very interesting to be around them and what a just really pretty down-to-earth guy he was you know and like just friendly and very approachable and um did you meet him on an airplane or was that somebody else that was yeah they flew southwest we all flew southwest together from las vegas to like georgia i think and yeah what i've told the story a lot of times but it was it was interesting because what they did was you know southwest is like seat yourself or whatever and uh of course the first like two rows are just like secret service people and then the carters But they go to the back of the plane and they just introduce themselves and shake hands with everyone on the flight, starting at the back row, working their way to the front, which was really charming and also delayed the flight. And also it was interesting to watch that because there were people that were like, you know, older and they were like, oh, my God, it's Jimmy and Rosalyn Carter. And then there were the people that are younger who were like, can we just take off now? We're leaving Las Vegas. We've all lost some money here. We would just, I don't know who this elderly couple is, but let's just go ahead and try to make our connection.

And, of course, and conservatives.

Yeah, maybe so. But, yeah, there is a great article, I think it was in the New York Times a few years ago, that was just kind of like a weekend in the life of Jimmy and Rosalind Carter. Or maybe it was a week. Like, what do they do in Plains, Georgia? Well, they lived in a very normal house. Actually, I don't know if they were in Plains anymore. I know that's where he was from. but they just lived in like a not some kind of giant mansion and they would just like go to like visit their friends on like say a friday night and then you know go to like a some kind of a get together on saturday you know famously he taught sunday school on sundays and it was like he was he had like one bud light or something at this one party and they were talking about the food that they were you know it's like kind of like potluck style and it was just an amazingly down-home life for a guy who was once the leader of the free world and i don't know it was very endearing to hear about their love and just how their life was so uh you know jimmy carter is is and by the way the other thing i'll say about jimmy carter is you can never count this dude out you know he's he's been diagnosed with cancer he's not young i think he's like 98 but he just seems to keep ticking so it's unclear what exactly is going to happen but um but you know by all accounts he's been a real force for good in his life so um you know shout out to jimmy carter

yeah to your point when i got a google news alert that said jimmy carter like i honestly thought i gonna be like jimmy carter's building more homes in georgia like he's just like you know just his entire life just like like literally out there working to build homes and and and spread good will for lack of a better i'm making him sound like i would say it's very similar to trump's

post-president yeah so far yeah i mean it's almost it's all they're almost indistinguishable from

each other was jimmy carter on truth social do you know he was do you have an account on there

That's what led to his declining health

Yeah unfortunately Alright let's Let's leave it With President's talk today Even though we were playing the email music Let's just leave it there I do have a voicemail that I'll play for you tomorrow

And I just want to say You know the show will go over an hour If I start the program by talking about How it's going to be a short show That's the Luke Burbank promise When I get on here saying it's a holiday And I'm not even supposed to be here today You know we're clocking a minimum of an hour Probably a little north of there

It was a fun show

Yeah, it was actually I'm glad we did this And also we're contractually obligated to So, you know, that's a win-win Anyway, thanks for listening everybody We're going to be back here tomorrow With more Imaginary Radio

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