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#3910 Terrible, Spanx For Asking
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#3910 Terrible, Spanx For Asking

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

March 29, 2023 | 01:04:54 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke spent the day wearing a Spanx shirt, and he thinks it's affecting his podcasting performance. He joins Andrew in Seattle to talk about huge hotel chains ditching housekeeping services and trying to sell it as a bonus for their guests.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:35 | Speaker 6:

First of all, I'd like to see the chef face to face. These are the best Cajun chicken niblets I've ever had. Also, we're going to want to get dessert. I'm wondering which wine pairs best with the Oreo cheesecake. I wouldn't know that. You don't know. Okay, perhaps you should send over the house Somalian. Greg is from Nigeria. No, I don't mean Craig. I don't see how this helps us. I just want cheesecake with a good wine. Okay, let's get dessert. Just get some more drinks, huh? One thing you can do, you can paint inner tubes.

00:00:35 - 00:00:41 | Speaker 1:

You can paint them with flowers, you can paint them with fish, you can paint them with battleships, you can paint them to look like a torpedo.

00:00:41 - 00:00:48 | Speaker 2:

Dude, give me a bark. This is grass clippings. Give us the real deal or we're out of here.

00:00:48 - 00:01:09 | Speaker 5:

What don't you understand? It's crystal clear. Ron Donald do's, okay? The four P's and one B. Politeness, professionalism, perfectionism, proactive, be on time. What are you doing? Don't do that. Virtuality. What? No, don't do that. Now it's five Ps. No, I already have four Ps. That's an RDD. That's a Ron Donald do? No, a Ron Donald don't. This is so confusing, Ron.

00:01:09 - 00:01:15 | Speaker 1:

What I'm going to do for you guys, I'm going to hook you up to the best stuff, okay? But you got to jump into my van. Definitely. For sharks. Come on.

00:01:15 - 00:01:26 | Speaker 6:

Tell us, what's it like to be on top of the world? Honestly, this is great. I feel terrific. I look great. Wearing a suit to the office, no joke. It makes you better than everyone else there.

00:01:27 - 00:01:38 | Speaker 4:

Alright, hello, good afternoon, and welcome everyone to a Tuesday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

00:01:38 - 00:01:41 | Speaker 6:

I guess this is the part where the art gets made.

00:01:41 - 00:01:54 | Speaker 4:

My name is Luke Burbank, I am your host. Coming to you from the offices of Walsh Walsh and Dormat. Make me a filet mignon! On a beautiful Tuesday here in Seattle, Washington.

00:01:54 - 00:01:57 | Speaker 5:

Oh, Ma, Pa, it's just beautiful.

00:01:58 - 00:02:33 | Speaker 4:

Where we have arrived at episode 3910 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. Saw an article in the New York Times about hotel chains that are not offering sort of daily housekeeping unless you ask them specifically. In other words, you have to opt in to having your room cleaned. and they are saying this has nothing to do with money. This is completely related to people not wanting them to come in and clean the rooms.

00:02:33 - 00:02:34 | Speaker 5:

We know you're good at lying.

00:02:35 - 00:02:48 | Speaker 4:

Also, a baseball story so egregious to me that it rises to the level of something that we should talk about here on this program, which is not, of course, specifically baseball-related. This is a simple game.

00:02:48 - 00:02:53 | Speaker 1:

You throw the ball, you hit the ball, You catch the ball

00:02:53 - 00:04:00 | Speaker 4:

And I have to say If you don't like baseball talk You might want to tune out From Thursday For 162 more episodes Starting on Thursday And then for 162 episodes Maybe not listening because I gotta be honest we're probably gonna end up talking about some baseball On this show I am so excited About this baseball season I'm not excited about something I'm wearing under my t-shirt right now that is supposed to be causing my body to be more i don't know quote unquote shapely or maybe not shapely maybe willowy i'm not sure the world needs to see the madness that is my upper torso i have a spank on i'm so glad that wasn't in the clear that sounds like the kind of thing that could end up on the internet i'm wearing spanks right now i'll explain why coming up oh and look who that is right over there my good friend andrew walsh the longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He is so good at co-broing this show. Because I sit with it. Because he sits with it. He sits with his microphone and soundboard right over there. He's joining me right now. Hello, my friend.

00:04:00 - 00:04:15 | Speaker 3:

Hey there, Luke. I know we have a lot to get to today with your adventures and Spanx. But before we do that, I've been very excited. This is the one reason. You're killing me, by the way. I was bummed to not be able to do the show with you yesterday.

00:04:15 - 00:04:22 | Speaker 4:

Oh, hey, thank you so much for being so flexible and for handling so much of yesterday's hashtag content.

00:04:22 - 00:04:59 | Speaker 3:

It was fun to hear everybody's voicemails. It really was. So here's the deal. We got a message on Slack, or somebody posted this on Slack for conversational purposes, from somebody named Andrew. I want to be clear here. This is not me, Andrew. This is a different Andrew. This is a listener named Andrew, who was reacting to the license plate, I Love Tofu, or I Love 2FU, according to the main department of motor vehicles, I assume. And Andrew said, you know, I saw a plate in Malibu, or it was on a Malibu, not in a Malibu, it was on a Malibu.

00:05:00 - 00:06:06 | Speaker 2:

And can you write down these letters? And I would encourage the listeners to do so as well. These are the letters that made up the license plate. You ready? Yep. T-P-L-S-G-R-M-A. So that's eight letters. Got it. T-P-L-S. Topless grandma. That's what Andrew said. He said, I cannot figure out. He said, I'm sorry, but all I see is topless grandma. I've tried to cipher my way. People who may pull audio drops occasionally. I've tried to cipher my way out of this interpretation, but I can't think of any combination of words that makes sense. So you got there right away. Now, is that what you you were reading Andrew's email? I was reading it. So you already had it in your head. That's why I really wanted to run it by somebody who didn't already have Andrew's. Well, that seems like a strong argument that it is topless grandma. It does. Now, Jessica wrote, maybe it's like TPL's grandma. Like, you have a grandkid, their initial is TPL.

00:06:07 - 00:06:32 | Speaker 1:

That seems like, it's weird that there is a world in which topless grandma seems like the more reasonable explanation for, like, anything. I don't want to live in that world, right? But I think that that strikes me as a more likely possibility than TPL's grandma. Yeah, I guess so. wanted to let everyone know i'm tpl's grandma the only other possibility was from dirty old

00:06:32 - 00:06:54 | Speaker 2:

cheryl in corvallis who says what about to please grandma but that also sounds too creepy so let's leave that one alone so you think it is you think that's maybe like some some uh some maybe how did the listener randy how did the listener not pull even with this car because that's how you know i mean that's a very you get eyes on that's a good point andrew we need you to get out there

00:06:54 - 00:07:03 | Speaker 1:

and do some more sleuthing okay you know just wanted to run that experiment never andrew i may never be topless again because i don't know if i can get these stupid spanks off now spanks don't

00:07:03 - 00:07:08 | Speaker 2:

go like how far up do they go like above the belly button but below your nipples i'm wearing

00:07:08 - 00:09:07 | Speaker 1:

a t-shirt oh it's a whole t-shirt it's just like a compression t-shirt i was uh doing some uh you know some sort of filming for a major software concern on the east side uh and uh it was funny I showed up yesterday for the rehearsal and they had the sort of various wardrobe choices. I was telling Genevieve about this before we started recording. And the very, very nice wardrobe folks kind of just decided on the look they liked. And then, you know, the people in charge said, yeah, that looks like a good thing. And then they handed me the shirt that I was going to wear, the blazer, and then also the Spanx shirt that I was going to wear under the shirt. and it was only interesting to me well it was interesting in that i had never worn spanks before uh which i you know i think they probably make them for different parts of your body but what i'm wearing is a t-shirt like a v-neck t-shirt that's very compressing and itching like heck right now yeah you didn't remove it between yesterday well uh i removed it yesterday after we rehearsed and i was like it was like a jim carrey movie in that bathroom me trying to get this thing off because it's really tight and you almost need like it's like trying to put a wetsuit on or off it's like you almost need another person to help get you out of it but of course that would be so embarrassing so today I was running late to get over here a bit and I and I wanted to hustle and so I took off the this clothes they provided for me for the wardrobe and I just thought I'll just put my regular clothes and I'm gonna be honest Andrew three percent of me also thought well, maybe this will make me look a little more svelte. Well, that's the whole point, right? Well, that is the point, but I don't think it works. Like, either my body cannot be tamed by mere compression spanks, or they're kind of, honestly, a little bit like BS.

00:09:08 - 00:09:42 | Speaker 2:

It's interesting also that they, as a newish product, a newish brand, unlike pants which have been around i assume since the dawn of time egyptians yeah um that they we all consider them to be plural i guess because it ends with a spank because oh it always ends with a spank that's the andrew walsh promise um nobody's grandma because it ends in an x right because it ends in the next like it's a shirt which we would use singular but We call, we call them Spanx.

00:09:42 - 00:09:51 | Speaker 1:

Right. And I think maybe people think of, I don't know what the original like product was. My guess would be that it was some kind of for your legs and maybe for your, maybe it

00:09:51 - 00:09:54 | Speaker 2:

came up for your backside or something.

00:09:54 - 00:10:10 | Speaker 1:

I'm not sure, but, but I have to tell you, uh, I don't think it works at all. At least for me, it doesn't. And it is. itching like holy hell so when we go to the break which isn't right now when we go to the break i'm gonna have to go into that newly remodeled bathroom of yours and jim carry the mask myself out of

00:10:10 - 00:10:31 | Speaker 2:

these well here scissors oh my gosh cut yourself out of them andrew do you need did you have any desire to save do we have a hey dummies video yet oh actually no i think you're on the hook for that although the problem is that involves me being shirtless and you becoming free from spanks i I mean, listen, you do you, but I personally don't have that. Oh, really?

00:10:31 - 00:10:31 | Speaker 1:

You wouldn't do that?

00:10:32 - 00:10:41 | Speaker 2:

No. You wouldn't cut yourself out of a pair of Spanx like David Blaine? Well, if you wanted, I would cut myself out of this shirt, but only because I have another shirt on underneath. And I have another shirt on underneath that, too.

00:10:41 - 00:11:09 | Speaker 1:

Again, I have to admit to my vanity thinking, so I had only worn, you know, they had me wearing this kind of like, I kept saying it's sort of like a shirt Macklemore might wear. Like, you know, he has a golf brand now called like Bogey Boys. and it was I was wearing a actually it's in the car it's in the rental car but it was like a kind of a polo shirt that had a little bit more of a gaudy zipper than I would normally wear if that makes any sense so a polo shirt you could zip a little bit and so not his militaristic

00:11:09 - 00:11:14 | Speaker 2:

like rhythm nation phase which was that would be something if you're hosting oh have I don't want

00:11:14 - 00:12:19 | Speaker 1:

to get I don't get too distracted off of me cutting myself out of the space because I do think there's something there but let me just tell you i am very upset with um macklemore aka ben macklemore forget what his real name is ben m ben haggarty maybe i don't know uh i am very mad at macklemore because he has a new song that is really not a bad song but in the video andrew he's wearing a yankees hat oh my god is i mean and this is a guy whose song is being played for the seventh inning stretch at the mariners baseball park whatever it's now called and he is a guy who is known to love local sports and i believe he does but i don't i cannot explain to you how off-putting that was for me it could be any other team pretty much but the yankees i mean that is like uh luke skywalker wearing uh you know a t-shirt from the death star which there

00:12:19 - 00:13:39 | Speaker 2:

are some outtakes but leaving that aside i don't i mean i know that this the whole way this whole podcast thing works is me talking or maybe sometimes talking less but right now i almost like don't want to talk at all because that is are you worried you're gonna say something that you will regret no you have a potential of possibly having a relationship with macklemore that could be ruined i do not i do not give a shit and i would never be in a situation where i'd be like oh macklemore is not going to come to my summer party anymore but um i'm i don't play in those spaces but dang it's not here's a belt i give you my scissors i give you my bell um it's not even interesting here's the thing like the tradition of musical artists often hip-hop artists of flashing some sort of sports logo on a hat or a shirt or something in their videos. The whole point of it is that it's more interesting when you're seeing a little flavor from what they're representing. And why would you go? I mean, if it was a minor league team, if it was like the fish sticks, well, I guess that's still Seattle, but like if it was something quirky in East Coast, but like there's a reason for it, maybe, or, but like the fucking Yankees, really? Macklemore? We can't dance to Louie Louie anymore because of your bullshit and you're repping this little known team called the New York

00:13:39 - 00:14:53 | Speaker 1:

Yankees? Also, the internet is not nearly as upset about this as they should be. I put in Macklemore wearing Yankees hat and it's just like various ads for hats and things. It's like rappers and baseball hats. AL West fan graphs. I don't know what that means. No bad days. macklemore featuring buoy and the krakens okay well right there we've got problems um anyway that uh that that bummed me out but what i was going to say about the shirt was the shirt they had me wearing was a polo shirt that it was also like kind of um like a light blue like a powder blue which is a nice color it's not a color that i tend to wear a lot but anyway here's where i'm going with all this i can tell you that yesterday and today in no universe were the spanks was the spanks helping keep my midsection somehow more taut right but i did wonder if it had to do with the specific shirt i was wearing and then if i put on one of my beloved black t-shirts that i always wear if that would if suddenly i would realize i would understand what the true majesty of this product is so i thought well why not it might be it'd be nice to you know be nice to have a ripped six pack under this t-shirt so i put this t-shirt on you put the first you put the spanks on then

00:14:53 - 00:14:57 | Speaker 2:

You put one of those t-shirts with the fake muscles on Then you put your outerwear

00:14:57 - 00:15:15 | Speaker 1:

First I put my black t-shirt on Then I put the Spanx over that oh okay gotcha do i have to draw you a diagram and then then a muscle shirt right and then a yankees jacket and then a shirt a regular shirt and then a yankees jacket so that if you do have to pop your top right you've got the muscle shirt in space and that will be this week's hey

00:15:15 - 00:15:59 | Speaker 2:

dummies video but uh i will admit that some part of me thought well maybe this i was just wearing the wrong kind of shirt to actually get the use out of this you know whatever this this this very uncomfortable thing i'm wearing is supposed to do maybe just the other shirt i was wearing my macklemore shirt wasn't flattering so i put this black t-shirt on her and what i learned was no it is making absolutely no difference in my appearance and is only serving to make me very physically uncomfortable i also have a headache right now like i haven't had in a while and i'm wondering if it's all the compression of my torso oh no i'm not getting all your precious bodily fluids up to your head pushing my bodily fluids into my like into my brain pan or something

00:15:59 - 00:16:27 | Speaker 1:

you it's a very dangerous situation so okay i have an update for you um on the macklemore thing but i was hoping it was on topless no but i did have a question about the uh because i was googling that a minute ago they've just turned off your internet um the uh i wasn't gonna say okay the spanks thing so i suggested cutting yourself out of it but like is it sounds like you're not interested in maybe keeping this no i'm not just cut yourself out then because if it was more

00:16:27 - 00:17:16 | Speaker 2:

comfortable you'd be a funny video but there's no way there's no way for me to do it without having to also be and like you said it's something it's not just being shirtless which i would feel very embarrassed about it's that i'm going from being somewhat contained like the idea of the idea of this like compression garment being cut open and then my inside that's exactly the sound it's like that um it's like when you get the cookie dough in the tube and you gotta it's like right it's like i i almost i i wouldn't feel great but i could almost handle the not having a shirt on part of it i can't handle that that liminal that liminal moment when it's just going that's the part that's where the real shame comes if it really makes that if it makes that sound

00:17:16 - 00:17:54 | Speaker 1:

too i wanted you to know that macklemore back on march 4th posted some still images from his video um and i don't like to use the word hero lightly but uh zach beal who tweets under at beal underscore zach said yankees question mark thank you thumbs down zach beal you're an american hero you're our kind of person and I do see some other folks like this salmon nerd who tweets under nerd salmon everybody's doing that these days just switching it around did you seriously include a Yankees jacket in a Seattle video so I don't know what's going on there you might have had another one

00:17:54 - 00:18:31 | Speaker 2:

where he's wearing a Yankees jacket okay is that from a different time oh well just because I was seeing some internet mentions of that as well it just really I mean I don't know again I have In the olden days we actually had Macklemore on Like Ross and Burbank he was nice I've met him a few Times he's always struck me as a Very nice very earnest individual I just I actually find it genuinely kind Of surprising because like you grew up in Seattle I think he went to Garfield High school and I think music Program and I believe that he is A real Fan of Seattle sports so I mean how well yeah

00:18:31 - 00:18:46 | Speaker 1:

Boy big now and that is the uh yeah boy big now says ben is a mariner fan but he loves the yankee logo and he's honoring new york in 50 years of hip-hop so that i you know i don't i don't want to bring reasonability

00:18:46 - 00:19:09 | Speaker 2:

into this conversation this is not a time to be reasonable no it isn't this is a time to be unreasonable because it is an unreasonable time you could there are so many ways you could honor new york in a hat yeah that i mean that would not be the yankees wear a mets hat wear a mets hat by the way also i i would argue a visually more attractive hat get a negro league hat get an old

00:19:09 - 00:19:14 | Speaker 1:

school like something old school that question about that yeah do you i this is the first this

00:19:14 - 00:19:21 | Speaker 2:

has ever occurred to me is there anything that strikes you as weird about a white guy wearing

00:19:21 - 00:19:44 | Speaker 1:

a Negro League hat. Oh, wearing? No, I think wearing is fine. I thought you were going to say... Claiming they played in the Negro League? I literally don't know that I... Something weird about that? I literally don't know if I've ever said that word before, but I mean, that is what it's called. It is, although... I thought you were going to say maybe that does sound weird coming out of my mouth, but I actually think it's a pretty solid way of honoring that era. That's just me speaking.

00:19:44 - 00:19:53 | Speaker 2:

I don't have a long-standing thought on it. Just as you said, I wondered for a moment, Like, huh, is that a sort of an appropriation of some kind?

00:19:53 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 1:

Maybe you're right. Maybe I wouldn't. But, you know, me, I'm scared to wear hats that people ask me about. Can you imagine you?

00:20:00 - 00:21:08 | Speaker 2:

I'm you wearing a New York league hat where somebody comes up to you in the airport and starts asking you about the team and you can't describe it like that's every one of your anxieties compounding like like you don't want to be asked about a sports team of any kind right right if you don't have all the info and now one where it's also steeped in this other kind of like you know fraughtness who was on the mound right June 3rd 1949 I actually don't even know when did the league i i also do not know but i what i do know is that macklemore should not be wearing that yankees hat no definitely in that video and as a mariners fan like it's again it's i don't need to make any more comparisons because people either care about this or don't if they care about this topic they've already got the comparisons in their head but it's like it would be like uh you know being a red sox fan and wearing a yankees hat or vice versa there are just these there what is it the gary larson thing we always talk about nature's way of saying don't touch yeah like baseball's way of saying do not touch is yankees gear if you're anyone who's not from new york and he and again just to reiterate and then i'll stop but

00:21:08 - 00:21:41 | Speaker 3:

macklemore is very associated with mariners baseball like they they ended a 30 40 year tradition of playing louis louis to replace it with his song last season which i'm still upset about but like i you know a lot of people said hey relax like it is he has a strong connection to the team he has a strong connection to the pacific northwest you're just being old and fuddy-duddy okay fine even if i'll give you all of that but then don't wear a goddamn mariner don't wear a goddamn yankees hat i i think that bc says it best uh this is a bcnw 360 so you know

00:21:41 - 00:21:48 | Speaker 2:

where this person this person is well are they turning around they are they're turning around

00:21:48 - 00:22:06 | Speaker 3:

it was 180 circle they were 180 for the longest time but they finally they rolled over and bc says take that weak ass Yankees cap off two exclamation points I thought you the letter you were from the NW question mark question mark thank you BC do you even 360 in the NW Ben

00:22:06 - 00:22:18 | Speaker 2:

good well I'm I'm glad that you share my outrage and by the way more baseball outrage just around the corner in the meantime uh could we do this Andrew could we actually just hit a break kind

00:22:18 - 00:22:23 | Speaker 3:

of on the early side oh yeah no we're good we're almost 25 minutes I gotta get this I gotta get

00:22:23 - 00:22:26 | Speaker 2:

this thing off and then and then we're going to put it on you and then we're going to put it on

00:22:26 - 00:22:44 | Speaker 3:

bingo yeah no cut yourself out of it yeah um yeah you know you're wearing that shirt somebody asks you how you feeling you say spankful terrible spanks for asking i assumed we'd be on the same

00:22:44 - 00:23:01 | Speaker 2:

page with that one i'm telling you andrew between between getting up at 4 30 this morning already doing all this other stuff and wearing a spank all day i'm i'm really not myself and i want to apologize to the listeners they're like can we go back to andrew solo hosting please i don't know

00:23:01 - 00:23:05 | Speaker 3:

why i expect you to read my mind there no no it seemed like it was i swear to god if it were a

00:23:05 - 00:23:23 | Speaker 2:

different day no it was it was it was a good joke and it was a it was a joke that i should have been able to to piece together but i'm i'm starting to starting to hit some kind of wall i think once i'm liberated from this compression garment i'm gonna have a whole new lease on podcasting okay Good, great. All right, quick break, and then more TBTL in just a moment.

00:23:24 - 00:23:31 | Speaker 1:

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody rattle, dattle.

00:23:32 - 00:24:05 | Speaker 2:

We've got to thank some dazzling donors. These are the generous, wonderful people donating to the program a dazzling amount of dough, which is how we are able to have this job. Andrew, before we get to our first dazzler, if I can just mention, immediate relief. Yeah, he's holding up the spank. Like William Wallace holding up, you know, the head of his vanquished foe. I don't think I know that reference. Isn't that Mel Gibson's character

00:24:05 - 00:24:12 | Speaker 3:

in Braveheart? Oh, maybe. Okay, I don't know if I've ever seen that. I think I saw that movie in college and was disappointed in it.

00:24:13 - 00:24:41 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, and that would only be the beginning of our disappointment in Mel Gibson, interestingly enough. But that was exactly what was giving me the headache. I feel like a new person. If I could just say this, if right now, if you hear, as you're hearing this, if you're wearing sculpting or compression gear purely in the interest of trying to appear physically different, just take it off. It's better to feel better. Oh, my gosh. Andrew, I feel like a new person right now.

00:24:41 - 00:24:43 | Speaker 3:

Well, that's why they say the Spanx keep the score.

00:24:44 - 00:25:05 | Speaker 2:

They do say that. They say that all the time. I hear people, I walk down the street, I hear people saying it. Everybody's talking about it. Braveheart said it. Uh-huh. They may take our lives, but they'll never take our Spanx. William Wallace called 50 men. 50. Okay. No, keep going. Let's thank... No, I can't anymore. You know what? Now I feel bad again. What happened?

00:25:06 - 00:25:11 | Speaker 1:

Wait, put the Spanx back on! Put them back on! Put them half on! Glasses on, Spanx off.

00:25:12 - 00:26:02 | Speaker 2:

Hey, Jesse LePage in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Queen City, I believe, right? I do think it's called the Queen City. And we've been down some Queen City roads. Jesse says, Hi Luke and Andrew. I've been listening to you since episode 1000. Holy mackerel. What are we at now? 3,910 by my count. which is often incorrect so that's uh that's almost 3 000 episodes jesse's been riding along with us i'm so glad i've been a part of this very special community for so long you've helped me through some of the toughest challenges in life please consider bringing a live show to ohio for instance for example cleveland peace be upon you andrew and luke you have given us all a fantastic gift well that's a really lovely uh message and also a somewhat um formal one peace be upon you Yeah. And also with you, Andrew, and also with you, Jesse.

00:26:02 - 00:26:24 | Speaker 1:

Thank you. Oh, wait. The churches you went to as a kid, probably there was a lot more interaction. Me, you know, being a Catholic, there was very little interaction until the handshaking part, the peace be with you, peace be with you, peace be with you. Would that be with your neighbors? Like everybody around you in the pews, and I would get pretty anxious about that part. Oh, my God. Yeah.

00:26:24 - 00:26:49 | Speaker 2:

I hated that part of church when they would say, because we did it in the Christian church or, you know, the church I was in as well, where it'd be like, oh, greet your, you know, greet your neighbor or, you know, say hi to somebody near you. I don't know why. I mean, as like a nine year old kid, who cares? That filled me with so much anxiety. I don't know why it seemed awkward. It seemed forced. I didn't want to do it. I was just like, please, can we just get to the next part of this service?

00:26:49 - 00:26:49 | Speaker 1:

Yeah.

00:26:49 - 00:26:50 | Speaker 2:

I hated that part.

00:26:50 - 00:27:04 | Speaker 1:

It's funny because, like, just thinking about it, like, to describe it now and with my values now, that sounds like a really nice part of the service. But, like, if you're just very socially awkward and shy, I was just shy. I was just bashful, Luke.

00:27:04 - 00:27:16 | Speaker 2:

But see, the thing is, I was the opposite of that as a kid. I was always trying to elbow my way into the spotlight or people's attention. So I wonder why I also felt very embarrassed by that.

00:27:16 - 00:27:25 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, especially because you're somebody who I think you did well with your peers, but also you were a little like I was going to say Eddie Haskell ish, but I don't think that's I don't think that's right.

00:27:26 - 00:27:32 | Speaker 2:

And also, oh, I promise you, my friends, parents, many of them disliked me deeply. Really? That's where the Eddie Haskell thing broke down.

00:27:32 - 00:27:42 | Speaker 1:

Because I sort of could see you cutting it up with adults because I reading the newspaper like there was like, wow, my kids, my kids friend can have a real conversation with me. Isn't he just the charmingest?

00:27:43 - 00:28:17 | Speaker 2:

Up until I stole some of their kids money. Yeah, or broke their tooth. And then, which if that gets out, if that gets out, Andrew, if that gets back to Diane Williams, I am in a lot of trouble. Anyway, Jesse, thank you so much for supporting us. And we will absolutely consider. In fact, Andrew is drinking from a Cleveland, Ohio coffee mug right now. And if that's not kismet. It says vacation in Cleveland. You're going to love it. I think it's from the 80s. I could see loving. I really enjoyed Cleveland when I've visited it before. So, Jesse, thank you for the support. We really appreciate you. Maestro?

00:28:18 - 00:28:24 | Speaker 1:

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody rattle.

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We've also got to thank Kelly Nilsen in San Diego, California. Getting some people checking in from the greater San Diego area of late on the Dazzlers. Kelly says, this is my third year as a Dazzling Donor, and I finally have something to promote.

00:28:42 - 00:28:42 | Speaker 1:

Nice.

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Last summer, I started my own business. I am the founder of Brava Financial LLC, a flat fee advice only fiduciary financial planning firm. I'm based in San Diego, but I can work with folks across the country. I would love it if the 10s would check out my website. Brava Financial Plans dot com. Brava B-R-A-V-A Financial Plans dot com. And if you like what you see, sign up for my newsletter. If you have questions or comments, email me, kelly, at bravafinancialplans.com and let me know how I can help you.

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Nice.

00:29:20 - 00:29:53 | Speaker 2:

I'll end with a stanza from one of my favorite poems. It epitomizes what I aspire to do in my business and my life and why TBTL resonates so deeply with me. Here is this bit of this poem from Kelly. for what am I here for if not to weave lassos of songs for the lonely to tug them to love wow what a beautiful sentiment golly I would get my financial advice from somebody who knows who can find that kind of amazing poetry and send it into a podcast

00:29:53 - 00:30:00 | Speaker 1:

yeah it's really beautiful I'm looking to see here if I can get the source of that poem like kind of who

00:30:00 - 00:30:04 | Speaker 2:

the who the poet is but i'd like to share a poem as well andrew that i is it a dirty limerick

00:30:04 - 00:30:22 | Speaker 1:

luke because that's not appropriate right here no okay maybe anyway uh kelly thank you so much there once was a lasso of love from nantuck right wait let me not sully this that's why i stopped

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yes that's why i stopped because we have this beautiful moment from listener kelly no i really They do of Bravo Financial. Did you know, I only learned this a while ago, the difference between Bravo and Bravo?

00:30:35 - 00:30:39 | Speaker 1:

I feel like this is something I should know, but it's not coming to mind.

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I am under the impression that Bravo is Bravo, but when sort of congratulating a woman.

00:30:47 - 00:30:50 | Speaker 1:

Oh, okay. Yeah, that makes sense. That's like Spanish language rules. Right. Yeah. Okay.

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I remember when I was at NPR, there was somebody, it was like a Sylvia Pujoli type or some kind of like very erudite traveled kind of just like a person a correspondent at the network who i just thought was an unbelievably cultured person and they would sign their emails brava ah yes i thought

00:31:12 - 00:31:34 | Speaker 1:

oh i wish i was cool enough to pull that off you know i mean it sounds like like what uh moira would say right I think by the way I think the poet might be Robert Browning oh okay although I can't I may be getting that wrong on the fly here but I want to at least try okay well Kelly thank you so much

00:31:34 - 00:33:09 | Speaker 2:

for sharing that poem with us and for supporting the show and beautiful congratulations on the new business everyone go to bravafinancialplans.com and tell Kelly TBTL sent ya hello and welcome to top story all right our first top story was sent to us by unpaid senior bidet correspondent and now uh unpaid senior this is gonna really make luke angry correspondent television's own chris hayes he sent us a story yesterday from the new york times say goodbye to daily hotel room cleaning this is written by danielle braff now we've talked about versions of this in the last few weeks because i've been staying in a lot of hotels and i feel like what you know our feelings are are are fairly sort of clear on this and we've talked about them a lot so we don't have to totally relitigate everything um but what this article is confirming is something that i think we've both kind of noticed anecdotally uh which is that when the pandemic happened a lot of i'll just read directly from danielle's piece in the early days of the pandemic the daily cleaning of hotel rooms was among the many routines disrupted even people who dared to travel blanched at the idea of a stranger entering their rooms okay first things first i did travel during the pandemic i would have had no problem with a stranger coming into my room we traveled thus is such is my love for having the room clean well that's funny because

00:33:09 - 00:33:53 | Speaker 1:

I did want to ask you about this. Vives and I first traveled in January of the Grand Canyon, 2021, right? Because 2021, that was the year of the attack on the Capitol. I know that's a weird way to put it, but I know it happened during our and that was 2021, right? Yeah. And so I remember it being a very strange experience, you know, like we were, you know, everybody's very much masking and behind plastic and glass everywhere. And so your expectations of traveling like we did in the before times were out the window. So I think that was fine. But, you know, then, you know, as we continue to travel after that, you start to realize, oh, everything's coming back to normal except for the things that are costing these companies. Right. Yeah.

00:33:53 - 00:34:28 | Speaker 2:

Travel has largely rebounded, according to this article, with occupancy levels projected to reach 64 percent this year, which is only two percent shy of pre pandemic levels. um according to the american hotel and lodging association um daily cleaning like the five-day office work week for many people and printed menus at restaurants seems to have become a thing of the past that's another one by the way that i really i was grabbing some dinner last night in redmond and that was the kind of qr code you know menu i really am not a fan but that's do you feel like

00:34:28 - 00:34:33 | Speaker 1:

the majority of restaurants have gone back no uh yes i feel like they've gone back i feel except

00:34:33 - 00:34:47 | Speaker 2:

for the ones that don't want to deal with it anymore which it's there right they can run their establishment however they want but i don't for me that the the joy of discovery the experience of discovery with a traditional menu is one thing scrolling around on my phone particularly if it's

00:34:47 - 00:34:51 | Speaker 1:

not formatted quite correctly yeah that's the thing it's a weird pdf or some shit yeah or it's

00:34:51 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 2:

not loading or whatever it's just but anyway um so uh they're saying now that uh well they start with Marriott, Bonvoy

00:35:00 - 00:35:18 | Speaker 1:

Marriott operates 30 hotel brands And more than 8,000 properties Worldwide They trumpeted the new normal During an investor call in February That's where all That's where all of the really Really customer friendly things Are trumpeted right The investor meeting

00:35:18 - 00:35:22 | Speaker 2:

You're sure it wasn't a COVID safety call It was an investor meeting

00:35:22 - 00:36:15 | Speaker 1:

No it was an investor meeting Andrew It was said that it was creating a tier system Marriott's creating a tier system for housekeeping In which Luke cries tears when they don't clean his room In which those who paid more could expect higher levels of service Basically if you're staying at the Ritz They're going to clean your room every night If you're staying at like, you know, the Four Points or something Or the Aloft or the Moxie You might get your room only cleaned every other day Or you might have to ask for them to clean it Now, again, we've talked about all of this It's very obvious to me that this is just something That they can spend less money on But this, I have a new Sworn Enemy for the rest of my life And his name is Let me find it here It's Kent something I want to get this right I'm going to do it for Kent Levinson

00:36:15 - 00:36:21 | Speaker 2:

Kent Lornor Kent Landers

00:36:21 - 00:37:03 | Speaker 1:

Is it Kent Landers? It is Kent Landers It's Kent Landers is a spokesperson for I believe it's Marriott and excuse me. Let's see Hilton. I am so sorry, Marriott, that I besmirched your name by saying Kent Landers works for you. Kent Landers is the spokesperson for Hilton. And this is what he had the temerity to say to the New York Times, the old gray lady herself, that they're not going to be cleaning the rooms as frequently in Hilton's because, quote, recognizing some guests may have varying levels of comfort with someone entering their rooms after they have checked in hilton offers them the choice and control to request the housekeeping

00:37:03 - 00:37:13 | Speaker 2:

services they desire you can always do that you could always say i don't need housekeeping you could have done that since the beginning of time when they invented pants and spanks like and by

00:37:13 - 00:37:44 | Speaker 1:

the way i wish they wouldn't have invented spanks yeah i know that's like those two days of my life I'll never get top spanks but um like the idea that Kent Landers has the just the audacity to try to spin this as something that they're offering as a service to guests we are offering you the opportunity to not have somebody come into the room and make it nice and clean for you we're offering you that opportunity and we're only doing it because everyone's afraid of someone coming into their room and cleaning it uh to which I say fee on that there's fee literally

00:37:44 - 00:39:04 | Speaker 2:

always been a sign that you can hang outside your door that says do not disturb it's one of the most classic kind of iconic fixtures of a hotel slash motel experience now i do want to ask you something personal here um this is galling obviously and this is especially galling to me because i love for me one of the pleasures as i've said on the show many times i mean one of the absolute pleasures of staying in a hotel even even a not so expensive hotel I'd always kind of opt for a chain as opposed to a nice bed and breakfast in New England or something because I like the kind of anonymous but also like automatic hotel experience which is that you would leave and you'd come back and everything is magically kind of tidied up and clean and the bed is made now you were the first person I ever knew who told me you didn't actually like rooms not room service But the the housekeeping service every time you travel, I remember being with you in a hotel. Boy, it was like a PRPD conference a long time ago when we were recording in your room. I remember you saying, I just like to tidy up myself because I have kind of a weird schedule when I'm on the road and it's just easier for me not to deal with it. So was it something that you would just sort of opt into sometimes? Are you more galled by the bullshittedness of all of this than the reality?

00:39:04 - 00:40:00 | Speaker 1:

I'm I'm galled at the at the sort of just lying right through their teeth by by the Hilton spokesperson and trying to like just you know pee on your leg and tell you it's raining yeah like that just really bothers me and my general move is I by the way it's really raining in here I'm not peeing on your leg right I just want you to know like am I for me what usually happens because I'm often recording this show with you at the prime time when they would be cleaning the rooms is if it's a big enough hotel and I'm fortunate when I'm going out often to go do a TV recording I will ask the front desk is there any chance of having housekeeping stop by my room if there's still anyone around or if I get lucky they're really early and I'm out you know doing something else in the room is clean like before you and I start recording but I think I've kind of gone back and forth and I think there was a period

00:40:00 - 00:40:03 | Speaker 2:

a time where i was like i'll just tidy up the bed myself and i don't know what changed to where now

00:40:00 - 00:40:29 | Speaker 1:

Thank you.

00:40:03 - 00:40:40 | Speaker 2:

it feels like a big priority to me to figure out a way in which to get someone you know why because i can never make the bed as fancy as the person who does the housekeeping i don't know what so tight the folds and i've tried to just as an experiment or if i missed housekeeping i've tried to just like recreate what they've done there is some magic touch uh and it's not magic It's 10,000 hours. It's called doing it all day long that the folks that take care of the rooms know how to do that. I just don't. And something inside of me feels a great peace when I come back into the room and I look and the bed is like that. Amen.

00:40:40 - 00:40:53 | Speaker 1:

Again, the other thing, literally one of my, not just one of my favorite feelings of traveling, but one of my favorite feelings. Like top 25 things that bring Andrew Walsh joy. Should we go through them all right now? Yes. Starting with number 25.

00:40:53 - 00:40:54 | Speaker 2:

Spare no detail.

00:40:55 - 00:40:57 | Speaker 1:

Taking off Spanx, number 25.

00:40:57 - 00:41:03 | Speaker 2:

Oh, my God. Honestly, it's almost worth putting the Spanx on so that you can take them off.

00:41:03 - 00:41:10 | Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, like in the summertime when you leave your windows up until you just bake in there until you can't take it anymore, then you blast the air conditioner.

00:41:10 - 00:42:10 | Speaker 2:

I thought you were going to say when you just leave your swim trunks on and then they're wet and they dry and then they make your butt cheeks itch. Oh, I hate that. Yeah, that is bad. I really hate that. Did you ever, as a kid, I'm sure the answer is no. sometimes in our household let's just say we wouldn't the clothes would have been thrown in the dryer you know before we were going to school and so i'd like put a pair of underwear on that was still a little could have been a little more dry i can picture that with uh jeans i think because jeans can be tricky sometimes you know what the thing about the jeans are back to um you know telling someone it's raining i realized at some point what i tended to think of as the smell of wetting you know peeing your pants or whatever is I think it might just be the smell of wet denim because if you get your jeans wet my experience is it's from an olfactory standpoint it's a fairly similar experience not a great experience is my no no speaking of bad experiences have you been following this absolute bullcrap with that Phillies catcher getting ejected from the I didn't

00:42:10 - 00:42:15 | Speaker 1:

see until you threw it in the show sheet and I read it what was your headline on the show sheet well now I cannot take

00:42:15 - 00:43:01 | Speaker 2:

credit for that that's from defector oh okay i i don't want to i don't want to steal valor from them basically in defector they were well let me just i'll kind of explain the story a little bit here i've got to get back to my uh my special page but did you actually even did you watch the little like kind of short video clip too of what happened yeah several times so the catcher for the phillies a guy named jt real muto great catcher i wanted him on my team this year i didn't get him he's uh you know he's uh sitting there in fact i guess what had happened was there was one of They've got these new rules in baseball about delays and such. And I believe that the pitcher for the Phillies—this is spring training, so it's not the real season. But even so, the pitcher, I think, had taken too long, and so the umpire had called some kind of a— A strike. A strike for—

00:43:01 - 00:43:04 | Speaker 1:

Oh, no, no, I'm sorry. That would be a ball against the strike. Right, exactly. Sorry about that.

00:43:04 - 00:44:03 | Speaker 2:

And so—and I guess, if I read this right, a previous time when the pitcher had needed a new baseball, which happens all the time throughout the game this umpire uh named uh randy rosenberg this umpire had thrown the ball out to the pitcher they do that sometimes and i don't i've never known what the system is like what the rules are i think some umpires probably like throwing the ball it's fun for them yeah and some they just hand it to the catcher and again i don't think that there's a specific rule around that but i guess what happened this game was uh there was a point where the umpire needed to throw a new ball out to the pitcher and so he did and then in this one moment the pitcher needed a new baseball and the catcher JT Real Muto put his mitt he's in the catcher's crouch he puts his mitt up like to have the umpire place the ball in his mitt and then what he says happened is he looked over and the pitcher a guy named Craig Kimbrell by the way Craig Kimbrell still pitching in the league that's amazing

00:44:03 - 00:44:04 | Speaker 1:

yeah that name is really familiar

00:44:04 - 00:44:39 | Speaker 2:

he's the arm dangle guy remember him I think he was he's been on a lot of teams now he usually has a fierce kind of zz top beard and he likes to do this move yeah where he's like looking in for the sign he like dangles his arm he was a very very good reliever a few years ago like one of the best in the league but anyway the catcher says this i'm sorry this is getting overly baseball but i haven't seen my friend andrew in a while i just want to talk about it with him yeah the catcher says he saw the pitcher look up as if the umpire was throwing the ball to him which the umpire had just done previously on a different play so uh the catcher for the phillies turns his mitt over he

00:44:39 - 00:44:59 | Speaker 1:

puts it up yeah so he's like here hand me the ball so there's somebody standing behind you it's the um he puts his he whoa did i just pop my mic he puts his um his his mitt back like here can you hand me the ball but then when the ball doesn't go into the mitt he assumes that the umpires just threw it directly to the pitcher so he just puts his hand down and then the ball falls to the ground in Royal Zone.

00:45:00 - 00:45:22 | Speaker 2:

The ump was trying to put it in the mitt, and it missed the mitt. And it's the equivalent of, the umpire thought this was the baseball equivalent of, hey, good to see you, high five, and then saying psych and pulling your hand back. He thought that this catcher was so angry about the call against the pitcher in the previous play that he was trying to make a fool of him by psyching him.

00:45:22 - 00:46:12 | Speaker 1:

And if you look at the reaction from the catcher, unless he's the world's greatest actor, Unless he's the Daniel Day-Lewis of the Philadelphia Phillies, he is clearly confused. There is no way he was trying to do this. No. And what you have here, and this is why I said in the headline, which again, I borrowed this line from Defector, MLB umpires are the new cops because the worst thing you could do would be to annoy or embarrass a police officer in this country. I mean, I want to be careful with that topic because what happens to me if I frustrate a police officer is so different than what happens to a person of color and I want to be respectful of that but like this idea that there's somebody with a lot of power so the umpire ejects the guy from the game immediately just ejects him and the guy is so confused think about it he didn't even probably know the ball

00:46:12 - 00:46:22 | Speaker 2:

had hit the ground no and he is confused he's like you can see the catcher's like oh there's a ball on the ground he goes to he scrambles to get it for a second like he's confused too like he's not playing games and this boy he's playing

00:46:22 - 00:46:49 | Speaker 1:

a game he's playing a child's game but like and also apparently a dangerous game with this umpire clearly what happened was this umpire felt embarrassed in a moment because he tried to put a ball into a mitt the mitt moved it hit the ground you can just the way the shot is over the shoulder of the pitcher or whatever you can see the journey that this umpire randy rosenberg goes on and he's just it's like he got

00:46:49 - 00:47:32 | Speaker 2:

embarrassed and then he lashed out because he got embarrassed and they never have to face the the media you know the the players have to go out there and have press conferences and talk no matter how terrible they did that day no matter how awful they're feeling they have to face the press but these these umps don't they have their crew chief or whatever uh just kind of like make excuses for them like the the actual people who might have been involved with a controversial call like this never actually have to uh have to answer for their behavior and then when they're Like, boss, the crew chief is sort of like... Dan Ayasonga. Yeah, and you want to talk about the cop analogy. It's just like the cops union. I mean, it just sounds just like the cops union.

00:47:32 - 00:48:45 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, so this guy who... The umpire who tossed the guy for no reason is actually a AAA umpire, and he's a call-up umpire for spring training games. So he's not a full MLB umpire, but presumably would be one someday. And like you said, Andrew, the crew chief was this guy named Dan Ayasonga. I've never heard him before. They did not make Rosenberg available. for a conversation, as you've already mentioned. So they asked this guy, Ayasonga, the crew chief, did he think that this guy, Rosenberg, acted hastily in kicking a player out of the game for doing nothing? Did Randy act hastily? No, Ayasonga said. I believe Randy felt like the situation warranted an ejection, and that's what he did. I mean, it's just such a... Again, in the one sense, it's meaningless. It's a spring training game. Who cares? But as a baseball fan, when you see the way that umpires do, I think, toss people and do all kinds of petty little things. Who is it? What's his name? Who's the Angel Perez Hernandez Hernandez, Angel Hernandez, who's like this, like legendarily bad umpire and who's always got like, you know, there's just there are a number of umpires who have like personal dislike for certain players.

00:48:45 - 00:49:51 | Speaker 2:

It's just they have so much power and no accountability. and i do you think uh an ai program would have kicked real muto out of the game for that you know and that is why that's this personality situation is one of the reasons why i actually am very supportive of bringing technology you know they say robot umpires or whatever like they've made a lot of changes to the sport that they're going to be trying out this season that i've kind of i'm mostly against them even though bigger more long-term baseball fans than me seem to support them so i don't think i'm in the um in the majority there but i know a lot of longtime baseball fans really don't like the idea of bringing again like just quote-unquote robot umpires in because part of the part of the game is this kind of clash between umpires and players but it's it's a one-sided clash all the power lies with them i feel like you know to go along with this analogy some more i feel like a certain type of person ends up becoming an umpire in the major leagues and it's probably somebody who has a toxic relationship to power yeah you

00:49:51 - 00:49:59 | Speaker 1:

know i mean again i it's defectors line but it just felt so police-like in a way and also yeah it's like what ends up happening

00:50:00 - 00:50:51 | Speaker 3:

You know, look, Major League Baseball players are are usually very well compensated for doing something that looks like it's a lot of fun playing baseball. So there are people who are more victimized in the world than Major League Baseball players. That being said, it is interesting to me that it's like the one sport where you really have to kind of play the game with the umps. And by that, I mean, you have to really kind of kiss their butt. Like, I don't think you do that in basketball. I don't think you do that in football. You know, you disagree with the call. You kind of go, what? In baseball, if you just stay at the plate too long after a third strike, you get ejected. There's so much more weird, unspoken rules around not showing up an umpire that can get you kicked out of or get you on their bad side. There's so many ways to hurt their fragile little feelings that you don't see in other sports.

00:50:51 - 00:52:04 | Speaker 4:

And there's almost like a hazing thing when you look at, and I'm probably going to get a little bit too deep here, so I'll pull out to the macro after this. But, like, Julio Rodriguez is a star player for the Mariners, and he's super young, and last year was his rookie year, right? And he has been a top prospect in all of Major League Baseball for years now. You and I were talking whenever I bring him up about how like we're all scared when he like got hit by a pitch on the wrist in West Virginia like four years ago or something like that's how much like the Mariners put import on this young phenom player who's now entering his second year. But all that is to say last year was his rookie year and he got so many bad calls at the plate throughout April, like his first month. He was getting like he was getting so screwed by the umpires in an almost hazing way. Yes, it couldn't have been coincidental. And apparently that's sort of a thing when you have a young guy like that, you really got the umpires can really kind of test him and see if he's going to like all he can do is just be quiet and smile. Because if he reacts like a human at all Then he's going to be marked And they're going to continue to pester him

00:52:04 - 00:52:24 | Speaker 3:

And it's like you haven't played enough to deserve to have an accurate strike zone Which is the most bizarre concept Get the robots I mean honestly I just don't think I'm going to miss I don't think I'm going to miss these kind of quasi-cops Roaming around the field making bad calls And then being butthurt If the players have the temerity to You know show their displeasure in any way

00:52:24 - 00:52:34 | Speaker 4:

Now I promise you I would not go deeper So I won't I'll go more macro here how do you feel about robot players oh let's see what if there's a day where it's robot players

00:52:34 - 00:52:49 | Speaker 3:

and robot umps you know to be honest with you of course that sounds ridiculous to me but i bet you i would get into it can you bet on it well i bet you i'd bet on it that's how you get into it right

00:52:49 - 00:53:00 | Speaker 4:

imagine oh man imagine the scandal there if if like robots that are created by people but people have money on these robots like the cheating scandals and the i i mean again it seems like

00:53:00 - 00:53:16 | Speaker 3:

the kind of thing that i wouldn't want to like oh it's not humans but no if i was rooting if my had my seattle robot team and they were going against houston's robot team i'd be pretty invested i mean literally i'd be pretty invested in seattle's robot team here i go once again with

00:53:16 - 00:53:22 | Speaker 1:

the email every week i hope that it's from a female no man it's not from a female

00:53:22 - 00:53:30 | Speaker 3:

all right topless grandpa any emails or v-mails yeah in fact let me

00:53:30 - 00:53:39 | Speaker 4:

i'm not i don't really know poker terminology there but let me see your strong bad and raise

00:53:39 - 00:53:58 | Speaker 2:

you with a what's in the box this is my box i never travel without my box oh what's in the box. In the first drawer, I keep my magic stones. What's in the box? Licorice! Licorice! Blood sweet licorice! Blood sweet licorice! It wasn't

00:53:58 - 00:54:21 | Speaker 4:

licorice. Try some. So this box has been sitting on my shelf for several weeks now, and it looks like it is from Cat and Matt in Eugene, Oregon. Listen to that. There's something in this package. It's a soft yellow envelope, but there's a box in here, and it's either like a puzzle or maybe a snack food. I was wondering, since you're here, would you like to open it? Do you mind if I werewolf it

00:54:21 - 00:54:59 | Speaker 3:

or would you like me to use the scissors? Oh, yeah, use the Spanx scissors. Either way, no, it doesn't matter. No, are you a careful opener of... Did I tell you about the time, this was many years ago, that I bought Carrie a... She had a camera, like a film camera that she liked, and I bought one of those. They were new, but they looked real kind of like vintage, a leather um thing for the camera that kind of snaps over the lens and everything you don't have a camera case i guess you call it and those were kind of popular for a while to buy one that seemed like it was you know from the 70s or something or whatever and i i bought this and it came in the box.

00:55:00 - 00:55:58 | Speaker 2:

It came in the box, and I was like, because I'm such a werewolf, I cut into the box to open it, and I basically put a big slice right across the part that would be covering the outside of the lens. Yeah. I gave it to her, and I was just trying to act like nothing. I just gave it to her like everything was fine. It was a fairly small cut, but she looks and goes, did you open this with a knife and cut the lens? And to this day, I think that's sitting in a, unused, sitting in a closet somewhere because I werewolfed it open. So now I'm very bummer. I'm very nervous about that kind of stuff. Okay. I have opened it. I have not. Is that what I think it is? Oh, wait a minute. Oh, my God. You know, it's funny. So, Andrew, the folks who sent us this taped a postcard onto the outside of the inner box, the box that I'm now holding. And I just looked at the postcard. It's a picture of Mount Zion National Park. And I just thought, is this a box of National Park postcards? But no. Then I looked at some of the other.

00:55:58 - 00:56:07 | Speaker 1:

You know what that is. This is something that I've been really wanting to try. This is, am I right that this is that new flavor of Girl Scout cookie? A Raspberry Rally?

00:56:08 - 00:56:35 | Speaker 2:

Is this a Raspberry Rally? My friend, I believe we are the proud, well, I'm the proud owner, and you're the proud, I'll let you have one, of a Raspberry Rally. What does the note say? Come on, you're on a diet. Give me that box. This is from Kat, a 10. I'm handing the box to Andrew. No, that's okay. Okay, I'll take the box. Well, I'll read the postcard. I do want to look at these. I want to smell these. This is, that's actually like a. I am really excited about this. These are really rare. Yeah. Well, can we... I'm going to read the postcard. Can you open the box and can we each try one on air?

00:56:35 - 00:56:35 | Speaker 1:

Yeah.

00:56:36 - 00:56:59 | Speaker 2:

So, Kat says, Hi, Luke and Andrew. I heard about the new Girl Scout cookie flavor, and I was very excited when I realized that you could only order them online starting February 27th. I marked my calendar. I ordered one extra box. Don't worry. I did not pay $150 for these on eBay. Hope you enjoy the new flavor. Sorry you have to share. Aw. No way.

00:56:59 - 00:57:05 | Speaker 1:

Cat. Okay, I want you to, before you've pulled one out, give it a whiff. Smell that. I think it smells good.

00:57:05 - 00:57:20 | Speaker 2:

Ooh. It does. I'm trying to think of what. I mean, it smells like raspberry, but it almost smells like a different. It's a different raspberry product that I'm thinking it smells like. But okay. They're like chocolate on the outside, which even though we talked about this on the show before, somehow that's still a surprise to me.

00:57:20 - 00:57:25 | Speaker 1:

They look exactly like what I pictured. They said they're like a thin mint only raspberry. All right, here we go.

00:57:27 - 00:57:39 | Speaker 2:

Hmm. interesting they're not as liquid in the middle as i for some reason again everything i assumed about these was off you one time said jelly and then you corrected yourself later on in the show

00:57:39 - 00:58:00 | Speaker 1:

luckily i have some water in here i'm sorry you don't make him to watch no i like it i some people have said that they're not so into it i understand like it is a very it's a very bold flavor yes for sure and and you know girl scout cookies the the traditional flavors are so beloved but But I would, I would, I know that you're not into this, but just like my beloved Thin Mints, I would pop these in the freezer.

00:58:01 - 00:58:25 | Speaker 2:

Oh, see, I'm getting my, my teeth are getting too old for that sort of game. I'm like, I'm really, I'm really at the age where it's like, am I, am I chewing on my goods? Which is weird because I've been very fortunate that I have, I don't have a ton of cavities and my teeth are like, I actually have pretty okay teeth in terms of I don't have a lot of pain or things like that. except if I'm eating cold stuff. It's a little bit intense for me.

00:58:25 - 00:59:04 | Speaker 1:

See, luckily, for all my ailments, luckily my teeth are not one. I have never had a cavity. I don't have any sensitivities still. The only thing that I think I talked about this with you, maybe not, but I have been clenching my teeth so much in my sleep and chomping down. I think I told you, oh, yeah, we mentioned that I was kind of unfortunately biting my tongue in my sleep, which was killing me. And then also I chipped my tooth in my sleep. I just chipped it. The dentist had to, like, sand it down. But aside from that, like, she just used regular sandpaper, which seemed weird to me. I wanted to ask. I can't remember. I'm not good with medical terminology, honestly.

00:59:05 - 00:59:15 | Speaker 2:

No, I'm very committed to trying to keep my teeth. Well, other than going to the dentist, I'm committed to doing whatever I need to do, Andrew, to take care of these teeth.

00:59:15 - 00:59:21 | Speaker 1:

Aside from brushing? Flossing, flossing, or regularly visiting the dentist. I would do whatever.

00:59:23 - 00:59:49 | Speaker 2:

Literally whatever it takes, as long as it's not those things that have just been mentioned. No, I do need to get a new dentist set up in Portland. But let me put it this way. I would really like to keep my teeth around as long as I can because I feel like one's teeth going away, it seems like it presents a whole new host of issues that I would really like to avoid. As of right now, they're okay. They're in there. They don't seem loose They're not falling out or whatever

00:59:49 - 00:59:50 | Speaker 1:

Outside bones

00:59:50 - 00:59:53 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what they are That's a song I just made up

00:59:53 - 00:59:59 | Speaker 1:

Can I play for you a very short voicemail? We played this intro tape that I like to play from time to time We've had it for years

01:00:00 - 01:00:16 | Speaker 2:

A listener called in, I don't even know how long ago, well, it was around the time that Shep Smith said jalapeno during a news broadcast, so what was that, four years ago or something, and a listener left this on our voicemail machine.

01:00:16 - 01:00:43 | Speaker 4:

Hello, I have a little song. I heard there was a secret food that when you ate could make you poo, But you don't really care for spicy, do you? Put them on my nachos, please. And when you do, don't forget the cheese. My favorite little pepper jalapeno.

01:00:44 - 01:00:46 | Speaker 2:

I love this song so much.

01:00:46 - 01:00:58 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, we started the show with it a while ago. And we were asking, do we want to know who this mystery singer is with the voice of an angel? Or do we just want it to be one of those beautiful unknowns?

01:00:59 - 01:01:06 | Speaker 2:

Exactly. And I also was wondering, would the person even hear our conversation? I think this was late last week. I said, you know, I don't even know if that person's still listening anymore.

01:01:06 - 01:01:20 | Speaker 3:

It's me. Hi. Jalapeno, it's me. I am happy to remain a mystery, but I figured you would want to know that, yes, I still listen to the show. I'm a 10 forever.

01:01:21 - 01:01:32 | Speaker 1:

Nice. Bye. Nice Taylor Swift reference. What is the Taylor Swift reference? She has a song, it's me, hi, I'm the problem. And that's been nemified like crazy on TikTok.

01:01:32 - 01:01:51 | Speaker 2:

I see. Taylor Swift has a commercial now for a credit card. It's been out for almost a year now, I think. Where she's like everyone in the commercial. She plays a bunch of different versions of herself. Yes. But Genevieve had to explain all these jokes. At one point she says, you're being too loud. And I didn't realize that's a reference to a song. I think I'm missing a lot of that, the references.

01:01:51 - 01:01:55 | Speaker 1:

Are you saying you didn't get us tickets to the Eras concert when it comes to the Northwest?

01:01:55 - 01:02:10 | Speaker 2:

um it hasn't hit here yet i'm starting to see like you mentioned the other day i'm starting to see a bubble up like people's concert experiences on social media but i don't where is that tour right now is in vegas last night or i don't know no i i just the opening weekend was

01:02:10 - 01:02:19 | Speaker 1:

i only knew about it because it completely took over my tiktok feed yeah and until it does that again i will not know its whereabouts but that was cool to hear from that call yeah and i want

01:02:19 - 01:02:48 | Speaker 2:

to say like when that caller said i'm a 10 for life like when i was listening to it uh yesterday When I heard it for the first time It really like I feel I had an emotional Reaction to that I really I was like that really means something to me And listen because people come and go that's fine You know like I have not Remained loyal to every podcast I've ever listened To but just knowing that that person is still out There hearing their own song from Time to time and letting The mystery be I love that thank you for Verifying that you're still out there we got an email

01:02:48 - 01:03:39 | Speaker 1:

The other day from our friend Stacy Listener Stacy in Bellingham And I said this in the response I was like oh stace i was just thinking of her the other day probably thinking of bellingham or whatcom talk which is the website that stacy works with and i just had this thought of like oh that was a person who um you know listen to the show a lot and maybe they've moved on with their life and of course when people do move on with their life it's very understandable but then when someone checks back in and they're like oh no i'm still listening you're like wow i don't know why that's there's something very like you said almost kind of emotionally resonant about that because it's it's just i don't it feels like people are sticking with us in some way it somehow feels affirming more than it should based on the fact that people are more than welcome to come and go depending on what works in their life and for me i think part of it too is being off of facebook

01:03:39 - 01:04:04 | Speaker 2:

there were so many listeners who i was like you know kind of friends with on facebook like so i would see their faces i would see their families every day you know and then you um You get off of Facebook like I did, and then you kind of forget like, oh, are those people still out there? And I think it's easy for me to assume that people have just sort of dropped off. But just because I'm not on Facebook, when I get an email from those folks, I'm always like, oh, great. They're still part of the fam.

01:04:04 - 01:04:34 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, since my real family doesn't reach out much, it's nice to have my podcast family sticking by me. Anyway, all right. Why don't we wrap it up for today? But the good news is we are going to be back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio. much more normal time bringing the show to you thank you everyone for your patience for these TBTL after hours additions last couple of days but anyway yeah we'll see you tomorrow until then have a great Tuesday take care of yourselves and please remember to mountain too tall and good luck to all

01:04:49 - 01:04:52 | Speaker 4:

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

01:04:52 - 01:04:53 | Speaker 3:

Power out.

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