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#3921 Wackadoos and Whackadon'ts
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#3921 Wackadoos and Whackadon'ts

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

April 12, 2023 | 01:06:59 | Leisure, Comedy

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Andrew thinks his new washing machine might be a reincarnated musician, and Luke has an bizarrely impossible experience trying to order two martinis and a root beer at a local watering hole.
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Baby, have you ever wondered, wondered, what ever became of me? I'm living on imaginary radio. I'm living on that T-D-T-L.

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T-B-T-L.

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This is the part where I'm supposed to do the whole intro thingy.

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Yeah, I just came here to hit dingers and have a good time. That's about it. This is a show for dogs, about dogs, starring one dog, and one dirty dog.

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Expect to feel several bone tremors and be perceived by all around you to be a disgrace. The comedy factor speaks for itself. It's just painfully obvious. It's an unfulfilled prophecy. It just has to be played out.

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Oh, this is fantastic. I've been waiting for this moment for months and it's finally here.

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all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a wednesday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live it's your lucky day my name is luke burbank i am your host coming to you from the hollywood broadcast center right here in portland oregon where i hope you're all sitting down it's raining again didn't know you like to get wet though uh this is now going down as uh actually one of the i thought it was just me i thought i was just you know over estimating how not great the weather has been and listen we're fortunate here in the pacific northwest it's rainy and gross but it's not unsafe the way it's been in some other parts of the country in terms of the weather i think california's had 31 in atmospheric rivers so far this year. But I heard on Oregon Public Broadcasting recently that this is actually statistically one of the worst springs of all time. So it's nice to know that it's not just me. It's everyone who's dealing with this situation. Oh, speaking of situations that you're going to have to deal with, here we are at episode 3921 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. Tupperware, the company, is teetering on the brink. I believe their stock is down by something like 98%. First of all, think outside the box. Try to figure out what's going on with this, you know, storied company and brand that we all grew up with. And then, as if we didn't have enough to worry about in this crazy world, Now you've got to be careful Something called juice jacking

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I love juice

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We'll tell you what that is And also My attempt to dominate the local Portland television market Continues Today As I will appear on the television program What up Rose City?

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Television is no friend of mine

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I actually don't know if that's the name of the show I called it Wake Up Portland, all caps, yesterday when I was texting Becca, and she corrected me on what the name of the show is, but then I didn't retain that information, so. Maybe we'll get into that, and we'll definitely talk to this guy, the longest-running cobro of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

00:03:27 - 00:03:36 | Speaker 4:

I know you're worried that I've run out of things to put in the new washing machine, but don't worry. I keep finding new things to wash around the house. Everything's okay over here.

00:03:36 - 00:04:27 | Speaker 3:

I actually thought of you yesterday. At some point, I was walking home from a meeting. Oh, can you remind me? Can you take a memo, Andrew? I'm not, by the way. I said yes, but I'm actually not. Okay, well, can you take a memory? Yeah, you know me. Can you help me remember to talk about this later? I had a Livewire-related meeting at this local incredibly sort of cool-appearing business called Steeplejack. it's in a converted church and the architecture of this um you know bar restaurant brewery is just it's really unbelievable but there is something about this place that has led me to decide i will probably never go there again so we'll talk about that in a minute i was walking home from there and i just out of the blue a thought hit me i bet you andrew is washing or drying something

00:04:27 - 00:04:44 | Speaker 4:

right now and just loving the living tweedle out of it yeah last night so it was funny as soon as the new washer and dryer showed up yesterday, I think I came out of my office after doing TV Telling. Genevieve might have already had a load of wash going.

00:04:45 - 00:04:52 | Speaker 3:

The clothes weren't even dirty. Just took a bunch of clothes out of the closet, threw them right in the new washroom. They weren't even our

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clothes. I don't know where she got them. I'm not asking any questions. But then throughout the day, I was working on things, doing this, doing that.

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And I didn't even realize this until near the very end of the day as I was starting my I was easing into my puttering routine at the end of the day, doing some dishes that had collected from lunches and, you know, looking ahead to the next day's coffee or whatever. This is maybe going down around seven or eight o'clock last night. I realized, like, oh, I'm going to go throw a quick load of laundry. And then I was like, wait, no, no, prepare yourself for this. Like, get to know the new machine. Put on the tonight pants first. be present it's gonna have some new bells some new whistles it actually does have a bell and a whistle that does not stop when it's done it sings a song that goes on for a long long long time

00:05:44 - 00:06:13 | Speaker 1:

i feel like i might be in a prank show yeah no um my uh my machine here in my apartment also But it actually plays a quite pleasant tune when it's done doing the dryer when it's done. And it goes on for a while, right? I can't reproduce it, but it's actually very pleasant. I feel like technology. I think mine does 99 bottles of beer on the wall to completion. You can program it to do that. I want a recording of that, please.

00:06:13 - 00:07:04 | Speaker 2:

I know. I just was thinking that right now. I'm like, I got to record this. But the thing is, when I play it, well, now I'm playing it up too much. But I was going to say, if I were to play a recording of this for you, you would think that I'm teasing you, that I had looped it in some way like you tried to do to the listeners during the 24-hour marathon and the song American Pie, which I never really appreciated, Luke. You kind of, you know, kind of testing the listeners' patience like that. That's not something that I would ever do as a producer. But, you know, I guess that was your prerogative. But, yeah, no, it is. It's really funny. Mistakes were made. It sings this digital song. I feel like this washer is actually like it somehow contains the soul of somebody who always wanted to be a musician and is now just kind of like a pleasantly haunted washing machine. So anyway, that's what's going on in my life.

00:07:04 - 00:07:16 | Speaker 1:

I would say that mine plays a song that isn't exactly like this, but it's pretty close. It's like the first 12 seconds of that Alan Parsons Project song that they used to bring the Chicago Bulls out to.

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I don't have any. No, you know. Maybe when I hear it, I'll know. But no, I don't think I could name. Alan Parsons Project is just like it's a funny name for a band. It's a great punchline. Not even not because I have a feeling about their music being good or bad. It's just such a funny name for a band. But I don't think I could name one song by them. How about this? Oh, this is Alan Parsons Project. can i be michael jordan or are you gonna do it no i called dibs on being herb winnington

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that's basically what my dryer sounds like when it finishes really okay god you must just feel the real question is was there a person named alan parsons in the alan parsons project that's I could not confirm that for you.

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I feel like I have some tape of Homer from The Simpsons explaining the Alan Parsons project. Do you remember that? I feel like I used to play that all the time, but I don't know. It rings a vague bell.

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What if you do a search for Parsons in your audio vault, and do you get that Simpsons thing? Because I also have sort of a half a memory of that.

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Yeah, let me keep looking for it. I did not label it as Parsons for some reason, but because I think it's like Homer going through the whole like chain, the whole like all the connections between various bands and how you end up at the Alan Parsons project or something vaguely along those lines.

00:08:45 - 00:10:17 | Speaker 1:

By the way, because we had a kind of a funky recording schedule last week where we had to front load some of the content, some of the shows. I didn't get to tell you that I saw Depeche Mode at the United Center in Chicago, and that's, of course, where the Bulls play. and first of all what a show like you know i would consider myself to be appreciative of depeche mode's music but not like a obsessed fan or anything and we were i interviewed them before the show and then we were filming the the the concert itself for to have some footage and my thought was i got an early flight tomorrow i'll stick around for a couple of songs and then i'll bounce and i stayed pretty much for the entire show because it was so entertaining and it was It was fun to be in a sold-out arena. Oh, but one of the things was I couldn't stop staring at the Chicago Bulls, like, banners from all their championships. And this isn't even—I don't believe this is even the building where Jordan—this isn't the old United Center. I think they built a new United Center. So I don't know if Jordan ever physically played in this building. But there was something that deeply connected with, like, 13-year-old me. Because I was a Sonics fan But I was obsessed with my jordan as an athlete as an entertainer as a shoe spokesperson so just standing in that building i was sort of vacillating between staring at depeche mode and then just looking up into the rafters at all those bulls championship banners and thinking i'm where that all happened yes yes i i think i

00:10:17 - 00:10:34 | Speaker 2:

can understand that feeling although i don't have those exact connections obviously was it also cool to be at a huge concert like that but like not with anybody and almost like just sort of like last minute choosing to stick around there must be a certain kind of freedom in there or maybe i

00:10:34 - 00:11:53 | Speaker 1:

just like being alone too much well there that's certainly a part of this is that you like flying solo but uh no it was it was it was totally ideal because i didn't have any responsibility there because i had already done my part of it when i know that my responsibilities are done on the tv side it's when they take the lavalier mic off of me once that mic is off it's lukey time and so i was just sitting there i had a drink in my hand i was in this kind of sort of elevated little platform behind the sound board so i had a pretty great view of the show and and nobody needed anything from me the other thing that was interesting was because i had been up on the stage earlier when i was interviewing them i had taken a picture of the set list um and so i had the set list on my phone and what it meant was i knew that what song was going to happen next before i don't know 20 000 people did and so i could sort of anticipate like oh man they're about to lose their friggin shit because it's about they're about to play enjoy the silence you know or whatever they'd play like a kind of a maybe a sort of lesser known song or something off the new album or whatever and then i would just be like none of these people know how psyched they're

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gonna be in 25 seconds it also would be beneficial and i guess we can look this up afterwards which i guess i never do but when i add a show take a memory like that that um pavement show i went to like i recognized a bunch of the songs i didn't but there were somewhere i was like wait what album is this like i feel like there was a time when i knew their catalog front to back with some well some album like wowie zowie weirdly is a little bit more of a blink or a little bit more of a blind spot for me but um like but for the most part like i could tell you oh yeah this is on that early noisy record or what have you but then i'm at this concert and i first of all they're playing stuff that i swear i haven't heard before maybe these are some of those kind of deep like some of those deep cuts that were released when albums were re-released with b-sides or what have you um but then also for the things i did know by the time i left i was at a loss i remember talking to you on the show like two days later on monday and i couldn't tell you what the playlist was and it kind of it bothered me again this is maybe my brain i don't even think it's age it's just i've never had a good brain for that kind of stuff so it must be kind of satisfying also to if you're in the mood to jam out to um uh what's your band again Depeche Mode later and it's not a band that you know super well but you're like oh oh oh this is that song you can go back and kind of dial up

00:13:18 - 00:13:55 | Speaker 1:

the stuff that was hot yeah I was a little surprised at how many of the songs I recognized not by the name of the song but just by oh yeah I've heard that because what what I was seeing was that most of the the set before the encore there was like two songs in there that I recognized And then the encore was just like Personal Jesus, Just Can't Get Enough, which, by the way, Slapeth, Hard. That song is so good, which is funny because it's kind of a different era of Depeche Mode. You know, they were very they were sort of early 80s. By the way, there was an Alan Parsons in the Alan Parsons Project. I did look that up.

00:13:56 - 00:14:09 | Speaker 3:

Nobody knows the band Grand Funk, the wild shirtless lyrics of Mark Farner, the bong rattling bass of Mel Shocker. The competent drum work of Don Brewer? Oh, man.

00:14:10 - 00:14:24 | Speaker 4:

I think it's coming. Grand Funk Railroad paved the way for Jefferson Airplane, which cleared the way for Jefferson Starship. The stage was now set for the Alan Parsons Project, which I believe was some sort of hovercraft. Okay, so they just set the stage.

00:14:24 - 00:14:25 | Speaker 2:

It wasn't even a connection.

00:14:25 - 00:16:06 | Speaker 1:

So good. No, but that totally paid off. But, yeah, I was looking at the main set list, and I was like, huh. I don't know any of these songs I'm like they better hope everyone Sticks around for the encore because then it's just Like the hits But then I actually recognized By sound a number of the songs But yeah it was like It was a weird I felt like I was sort of I had traveled to this concert From the future where I knew You know how everyone in that room Was going to feel before they knew How they were going to feel It was a really fun night But anyway, Anyway, back to why I will never go to this place Steeplejack in my neighborhood again. So it happens to be kind of a middle spot for me and a couple of the producers of Livewire who I work with. And so sometimes if we're going to have an in-person meeting, we throw this place Steeplejack out because it's sort of walkable for everyone. And again, it's just absolutely beautiful. They also have trivia there. Becca and I did the trivia. We did not like it, mostly because we didn't do very well. So that told us it's not good trivia. It was kind of weird that we thought the questions were a little weird. But anyway, they have a payment system. So it's like the server, you don't, they're trying to dissuade you from, there's no service at the tables in that like a waiter will come to the table and say, hey, what can I get you? You, I guess, technically could order from the bar. But what they're heavily driving you towards is a QR code that then you enter your credit card or debit card information, and then you order your food through your phone, and then someone brings it out to you. Have you dined at a place like this?

00:16:07 - 00:16:42 | Speaker 2:

I feel like I have once or twice. It's also not for me. It's one of those things where you've got to ask yourself, wait, am I just resistant to change, or does this suck? It sucks. Yeah, and it could be for me. Maybe it could be a little bit of both. But, yeah, I'm kind of a big fan of regular table service. And during the pandemic and maybe a little bit that, you know, as we're crawling out of it, I think some companies and some, you know, some small businesses and restaurants were messing around with trying to save some money by automating things more. But, yeah, I do not like that. You order from your phone and then you pay from your phone.

00:16:42 - 00:19:41 | Speaker 1:

Yeah. So it's not just like the menu is a QR code, which we're all pretty used to at this point. The way that you transact, the way you pay for everything is through your phone. And like the first time that Becca and I went there just to get some food or whatever, I, you know, we ordered on the phone and I put all my info in. And it's also one of those things where there's like one extra button you have to hit that's not intuitive. In other words, you sort of have gone through what feels like the process and you hit go for it. And then there's like another button that's like really go for it. And you're supposed to hit that one. And so we were sitting there for like an hour and a half with nothing being brought to us because I hadn't hit the second go for it button. So that's just terrible design. Every time I go there, it's a situation with just trying to get the freaking food. So yesterday I show up and I'm meeting with my colleagues, Laura and Melanie, and this is on LiveWire. We're just going to get a little snack and maybe have a drink and have our meeting. and it was endlessly complicated so first so we have you know laura has the live wire card or whatever so we're all trying to order off of this phone thing we have to use laura's phone right because like that's where the payment is coming from and so we're trying to order the stuff she's handing the phone around we're all putting in our little okay we're gonna get this melanie got there before us so she's already grabbed a drink which we're now trying to figure out she hasn't put her info in she just got a drink from the bar and all we want to do is add her drink to the tab because this is going to be paid for by the show and so laura's putting all her card information in and it keeps just giving her in like an error message so i go i'm just going to go to the bar and see if i can order all of this from the bar and then we'll just give them the card and i go up to the bar and i've never had a more complicated interaction by the way There's no one but us. This is at like 3 in the afternoon. There's no one in this place except us. It's not like they're slammed. And they go up to the bartender, and I say, hey, we're having trouble with the phone situation. Can we just order from you and just pay you with this card? And she says, sure. I'm like, great. So I go, the martini that that person already has, and then I would like a martini extra dirty, and then we would like an order of the potato croquettes and a root beer. And the bartender goes, okay. She goes, what's the last name on the tab? And I said, well, there isn't a tab. We couldn't get it going. She goes, okay. So then she goes back and she gets the root beer. And then she comes back and she goes, how does that woman want her martini? I was like, no, no, she has her martini. She got it from you, but we want to pay for it on this card. And she's like, okay, what's the name on the tab? I go, well, the person whose card it is, his last name is Hadden. She goes, okay, Harden? And I go, no, no, Hadden. So she looks, she's trying to spell it. She goes, I can't find the tab in the system. And I go, because we don't have a tab. She goes, how's it spelled?

00:19:42 - 00:20:00 | Speaker 1:

I re-spelled it for her. She goes, I'm not seeing a Hadeen. I'm like, here's the thing. We would like to have these items, which we have not paid for, and we do not have a tab. And we'd like to put them on this card. She goes, oh, okay, got it. No problem. So she makes the martini, gives us the root beer. I go, I sit back down.

00:20:00 - 00:20:42 | Speaker 2:

at the table the server comes over about 10 minutes later and goes i can't find a heart in the system and i go and it's really i'm like i i would like to say that i strive to not be um what's the word i'm looking for like patronizing to people in the service industry because like i know it's a hard job i really i i think i overcompensate by really just trying to be as pleasant as i can and really not get into that mode where you're being rude to folks because just no need for that but it was so close to just being like how many different ways can i explain to you what we're trying to do so then and at this point it's already paid for right you've

00:20:42 - 00:20:47 | Speaker 1:

put it out no oh you haven't oh okay i thought andrew when i tell you the bar she just like oh

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okay no problem and i thought she took the card at the bar she took the card she put it in the machine but she has not brought a receipt of any kind let me tell you this when i left steeplejack yesterday after our like two-hour meeting it still hadn't been resolved it was they may still be there trying to work it out today i don't know because she had taken the card when i went up through the bar and did the whole process she had taken the card put it in the machine done something and handed me the card back when she comes back to our table she explains to us she can't find a hearten in the system and it's just like are you daft like i'm i'm not ginning this up for content i literally explained as clearly as i could to this person three separate times that we didn't we're not in the system because we had not been able to do it because we were confused by the thing on the phone what i thought was amazing was how many different ways she misunderstood my colleague's last name yeah that sounds like a joke i i swear to god dude it was she had no hardeen had the sheepdog she had she had hadn't misspelled she had hadine she had hearten she was just making up names at some point and i i was i was literally wondering if there was something i didn't understand about what was going on with this person because it was so i felt not complicated what maybe it was complicated at first but it had been explained i thought in a very clear way we don't have a tab we would like to pay you for the following items could we please have those items we will give you the card this was just the cherry on top of the sundae that is my deep dissatisfaction with this system they have at this place it's never not a hassle and it is honestly i'm not going back there because i hate it so much yeah just adding something to your tab

00:22:37 - 00:24:11 | Speaker 1:

like if somebody comes by and you're like you know what i would like an after dinner drink or whatever like this system does not allow for that without starting a new ticket or whatever they call it i assume they call it a ticket have you filed a ticket yet for your tater tots where are my tater tots i'll file a ticket there's welcome to brazil that's my least favorite like whenever i'm having any issue and sometimes i gotta say in some systems it really works like usually i've been lucky at american public media if i have a tech issue i there are people there that i can us call our friend Eric the Viking Stromstead is one of them he you know yeah I love him he gives us so much like kind of I don't know special personal attention you know but really on those occasions when something isn't working right like I remember I had several technical issues when we arrived in Denver for our for our TBTL-a-thon and I was as you know very as full of anxiety and stressed out about the next day's live feed and everything and there was something very simple I couldn't something i was locked i was locked out of some software that i needed and so it was a sunday and i tried to reach somebody that said okay file a ticket and i was like file a ticket like to me the term file a ticket means i you know go into some complicated system click some of those little radio dial things and then everybody's just going to forget about it until you get a new piece of software that ended up not being the case people were really responsive and i appreciate that but for the most part filing a ticket you don't know if that is just like like literally as soon as you hit send if it just dumps out of a pipe somewhere it goes directly

00:24:11 - 00:24:17 | Speaker 2:

into a river exactly well first it goes through a shredder and then it fires out of like a confetti

00:24:17 - 00:24:38 | Speaker 1:

cannon yeah now i will the abyss and again to give the the folks at apm credit because in that case like it worked really well so but i've just worked other places or it's not even just if you work somewhere like you you are looking for customer support on some piece of software you just bought They're like, okay, we'll file a ticket. And it's like, oh, I just hate those words. And now they got you, my point, they got you filing tickets for your truffle fries.

00:24:38 - 00:24:44 | Speaker 2:

It's, they do have truffle fries, by the way, which I don't like. I feel like over truffled things taste like bad breath to me.

00:24:44 - 00:24:48 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm not into truffle. Who got the root beer, though? That's what I want to know. Was that Haddon or?

00:24:48 - 00:24:54 | Speaker 2:

My colleague, Laura, who makes good decisions, unlike my colleague, Melanie, and I, who decided to have a martini in the afternoon.

00:24:54 - 00:24:59 | Speaker 1:

That's just such a strong afternoon work choice. like because like

00:25:00 - 00:25:15 | Speaker 2:

you would see somebody saying no i'm not you know i don't want a martini it's the middle of the day um but then going with i don't know a cup of tea or a water or a sparkling water or whatever like root beer is just like i that is awesome and i am going to try to be more like lauren hadin yeah

00:25:15 - 00:25:38 | Speaker 1:

it's a um it's a power move um my computer went to sleep because i remember when i was obsessed with uh this guy one of my very favorite drops it never really caught on gotta have that oh yeah right was that from the perfect drop for that yeah he's just a guy who would show up on tiktok every day to celebrate that he was having a root beer and uh i really liked his vibe

00:25:38 - 00:26:45 | Speaker 2:

oh by the way this is unrelated to christ anything we're talking about but um shout out to the person who texted me yesterday a photo of hot cisco morris from the 70s i'm gonna say a black and white i don't know if you have any cisco morris audio luke i don't think you've ever played that on the show before but i've always known him as you know an older gentleman uh who had a garden does have purple balls who's got that accent and was you know probably when i knew him he was probably in the 60s and then he he retired and i only still a nice looking dude still a great looking guy yeah absolutely but then somebody's like hey i think my partner stumbled on this photo of cisco from the 70s it's like black and white he's like a total he's a shirtless hippie he's got some pipes like i was like yeah he does i don't know if that's what we call arms but okay don't you isn't pipes like a kind of isn't that a because he doesn't i like it he doesn't have guns i don't think he has guns but he's like kind of um i see he's sinewy yeah exactly sinewy that's not that's not slang for pipes huh you know maybe it is and i just haven't heard it before

00:26:45 - 00:26:56 | Speaker 1:

I've heard laying the pipe is a whole other situation. Well, that's you said pipe. So I had to tell you what I was thinking of.

00:26:56 - 00:27:11 | Speaker 2:

You know, what I'm getting here, obviously, I didn't have to. No, you didn't. Set of pipes, I think, is how most people would have maybe thought of. That means you have a good singing voice. Nice set of pipes. So that makes sense. There's the awful one that you brought up. By the way, that's entry number.

00:27:11 - 00:27:14 | Speaker 1:

Like great. That's number 12. Someone wants in their life.

00:27:14 - 00:27:20 | Speaker 2:

That's number 12 on Google, by the way. It was number one on Lukal. It was number 12 on Google.

00:27:21 - 00:27:44 | Speaker 1:

Well, you know, but see, that's a line in the song Hey Ma by Cameron, which I love. Oh, okay. He says, plus I can lay the pipe. Okay, let's just move on. Would you like to talk about the fact that I was way ahead of the curve on quitting Twitter? Because did you hear today that NPR has quit Twitter over that whole situation?

00:27:44 - 00:27:53 | Speaker 2:

No, I did not. But good for them. I saw that KCRW sent out a letter saying that we are not going to use this platform anymore because of the awfulness.

00:27:53 - 00:28:49 | Speaker 1:

yeah like npr's things we're not going to try to use this thing that's actively demeaning our product by calling us a whatever government-run media organization um but uh which i what makes me i'm feeling more um sort of like uh i guess confirmed in my decision to uh to get off of that platform as as many other shoes drop over there i guess musk did an interview with the bbc which you wonder if he was wasn't trying to just like slightly troll state npr i mean the funny part is the bbc i would argue is closer to being state-run than npr not that the bbc is a state-run agency but i mean it is very much publicly funded in the uk and does great journalism uh so he would go the fact that he'd go on there and do an interview um you know a rare interview for him is kind of you know who knows what's going on with that guy but anyway yeah npr is now off of

00:28:49 - 00:29:20 | Speaker 2:

tweeter you know i'm having internet issues on my end i'm glad that you can still hear me okay right i think this is maybe just on my other computer for some reason um but i am seeing some results because i know that you care i am uh i'm not able to open the pages right now i'll figure that out but i'm seeing dash definition of pipes again this isn't you're right like maybe there are other slang things that come to mind first but muscles and fitness of body he has some huge pipes uh let's see guns versus pipes what's the difference when you say pipes i think in the

00:29:20 - 00:29:24 | Speaker 1:

common slang there's a different part of the anatomy that comes to mind for a lot of people

00:29:24 - 00:29:36 | Speaker 2:

would be my argument well-developed muscles of the upper arm especially the biceps and triceps i think that that is a common uh i think that is common well the internet says so

00:29:36 - 00:29:55 | Speaker 1:

okay uh i i'm i never said it was i did not say that it wasn't god that's a lot of negatives in that sentence i never didn't say that it wasn't andrew i'm just saying i hadn't heard it used that way and i have a different association with that term now now okay i gotta be honest

00:29:55 - 00:29:59 | Speaker 2:

with you here this website is also secondly saying breasts Yes.

00:30:00 - 00:30:37 | Speaker 3:

What? Okay, that makes no sense. That is like... Honestly, see a doctor. What is the, not Job Bluth, but the David Cross character, geez, Louise, why can't I think of his name? Tobias. Tobias at some point, he mentioned something about he loves making love to his wife and her clanking breasts. Or something along the lines, really illustrating that he is not... Deep heterosexuality. super into her sexuality exactly and i think about that all the time i just saw this scene

00:30:37 - 00:31:16 | Speaker 1:

from i it must have been on a season i think not you know famously they brought arrest development back we talked about that so much on the show but they kind of had some technical challenges like they sort of couldn't get everybody the whole cast together at the same time so it felt a little a little weird to me that how they had to shoot it but i saw something on tiktok the other day that was an appearance by Martin Short as this kind of, like, a guy who used to date Lucille back in the day, but he now has, you know, he's sort of like a Jack LaLanne character, but he doesn't have use of his legs, so he's sort of carried around by this big, like, bodyguard.

00:31:17 - 00:32:30 | Speaker 2:

Wow, vaguely. You know what? I'm guessing here, and we could look this up, because I'll happily admit to being wrong about this, unlike the use of pipes for muscles, which is common in fact it's more as i'm looking at the internet it's more and more common it's erased any reference to guns as muscles weirdly um but uh you know don't forget that they kind of brought the show back twice and i'm thinking this might have been a season five development seasons one through three were all on fox and they were sequential then there was a long break they brought it back for season four and that's where they couldn't get everybody on the same set and that i mean i've heard some people defend it and if you like it you like it but it was just incoherent and a mess to me um and then they took another break and then they came back and tried to do it right again for season five not the season four remix which they also threw in there but an actual season five and i there were moments in season five that really got me in fact that's where that tape it's like we've sometimes talked about the best tbtl tape that we can't play on tbtl because it's so kind of filthy and offensive um i don't know if you recall that um but uh i season five is pretty good are you looking it up is that where short is i don't know what season

00:32:30 - 00:32:58 | Speaker 1:

it's from but i found it his name is jack dorso in in this and again he's sort of like a jack la lane character but again he's he's being carried around by a dude and he i'm gonna play this it's totally not gonna work but i'm not gonna let that stop me he sees lindsey right And he thinks that Lindsay is Lucille, who he had some kind of one-night stand with or something, okay? And then this is what it is. Again, remember that he is a person who needs to be carried around by somebody else.

00:32:59 - 00:33:01 | Speaker 2:

Remember me? Lucille.

00:33:01 - 00:33:22 | Speaker 1:

You look younger than you did the day I had. Oh, you look so. I'm Lucille. So first of all, he mistakes Lindsay for Lucille and thinks she's looking quite well. And then Lucille's like, it's me, you idiot. So his handler kind of passes him over. So he's looking at the real Lucille and then he says, you look fabulous.

00:33:22 - 00:33:24 | Speaker 3:

Back to the blonde, back to the blonde.

00:33:25 - 00:33:30 | Speaker 1:

He's making his guy carry him back over to Lindsay. Isn't she beautiful?

00:33:31 - 00:33:32 | Unknown:

Oh, yeah.

00:33:34 - 00:33:38 | Speaker 3:

She's no bigger than one of my legs. Shake them for her.

00:33:39 - 00:33:42 | Speaker 1:

So he has his guy shake him and he starts throwing up.

00:33:42 - 00:33:54 | Speaker 2:

Excuse me, Uncle Jack, I'm George, my boy. It's okay. Just ignore it. Ignore it. It's just something the body does when you shake it. It's just something the body does when you shake it.

00:33:54 - 00:33:57 | Speaker 1:

It's a genius line.

00:33:58 - 00:34:01 | Speaker 2:

I'm totally wrong. This was season two. This is early on.

00:34:01 - 00:34:38 | Speaker 1:

I have no memory of this character. I think of myself as somewhat of an Arrested Development knower. I felt like this character would have made a bigger impression on me because, look away, it's just something the body does when you shake it. oh my goodness okay well let's go get some root beer speaking of uh speaking of of great television andrew i'm on my way to uh wake up portland or whatever it's called after this i they have somehow managed to the live wire pr departments managed to place me on every local television show here in portland where i pop in for five minutes to try to um you know sell my

00:34:38 - 00:34:52 | Speaker 2:

wares aka get people to come out to live wire um if you accidentally mentioned tbtl i guess that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world just get i'll try to wedge it in do it on uh live wires dime there so this is a different studio this is a different show than what you did a

00:34:52 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 1:

different studio different show and much more like prep involved not for me but for them i see the emails that are going between

00:35:00 - 00:36:07 | Speaker 2:

the person who's kind of doing our marketing and them so i'm a little nervous because this actually may be a the other one was like i told you i was just wedged between two pay-to-play like events you know one was like laundry hacks and the the woman is in a studio somewhere just with a bunch of gain detergent behind her and uh and whatever came before me it was just kind of like a really easy breezy chat for five minutes this one there's like appears to be a certain of research done by the the hosts and the staff over there which has me nervous yes i mean honestly not like about you know what are they going to uncover in my life but more just like i'm going to be honest with you i have a cursory at best awareness of what we're doing let's say two shows from now we're doing the show tomorrow night here in portland i know about that show because i've been reading the books and doing the research for it but we're doing the show in two Weeks at the research center in Beaverton I couldn't tell you one thing about that show So if they're kind of like Tell us about what you're really looking forward To this season of live where I'm just gonna have to Pull something right out of my pipes

00:36:07 - 00:36:50 | Speaker 1:

Yeah My clanking breath You're gonna be like I think this was Martin Short What a dumb thing for me to bring up but There's this old SNL Sketch that lives in my head And it actually pays rent For whatever that's worth so that's gonna It's kind of a good side line of income for me. But it's Martin Short, and I think I'm just, man, there's a lot of this I could be getting wrong. But I feel like it's a parody of the hard-hitting news shows like 60 Minutes maybe. Who was it who would kind of put guests, you know, you'd sit guests down in an armchair and it'd be kind of a softer environment. But then you start asking really, really tough questions. Am I right to think that that's kind of a 60 Minutes kind of approach?

00:36:50 - 00:36:52 | Speaker 2:

I definitely identify that with a 60 Minutes interview.

00:36:52 - 00:37:30 | Speaker 1:

And Martin Short, I believe, this will be amazing to see. This is like a game of telephone, only all the telephones are in my brain. I wonder how many of these connections I have wrong. But I feel like Martin Short plays an executive who owns a company that has been releasing a bunch of incredibly dangerous toys for children, including Bag of Glass. Oh, that's actually Dan Aykroyd. Yeah, you're right. Dan Aykroyd is... There's another one with Martin Short where he keeps saying, I know that. You think I don't know that? I know that. And he's like sweating profusely and smoking on this little cigarette. I am. It's not the bag of glass one. It's a different one. And I will see if I can find that.

00:37:30 - 00:37:43 | Speaker 2:

It just makes me. Yeah. Nathan Thurm, Tobacco Growers of America, is the character that Martin Short is apparently playing in this sketch. And I really, I mean, I'm not saying.

00:37:43 - 00:37:45 | Speaker 1:

Tobacco. OK. Right. So they're putting him on the hot seat.

00:37:45 - 00:37:55 | Speaker 2:

And I'm not saying anything that everyone doesn't already know. But, like, the older I get, the more of a national treasure I find Martin Short to be. Yes.

00:37:56 - 00:38:13 | Speaker 1:

When I met Genevieve, she didn't like Martin Short. I've watched her go from thinking ill of Martin Short's work to absolutely loving him and adoring him. It's been it brings me so much pleasure how much she loves him now because I've seen somebody grow.

00:38:13 - 00:38:41 | Speaker 2:

Well, you know, I could understand if you weren't into like Ed Grimley or something, there's obviously an absurdity and a just like full, it's the sort of Jim Carrey-esque full commitment to the character. And if the particular character kind of isn't funny to you, it's just like way too much of that energy. Like I could totally see that. What's wild about this sketch is, you know who he's being sort of cross-examined by is a very young Christopher Guest.

00:38:41 - 00:38:44 | Speaker 1:

Yes, I'm looking at Here, let me play a little bit of that

00:38:44 - 00:38:51 | Speaker 3:

Tonight, we go by satellite to Asheville, North Carolina To speak with Nathan Thurm A lawyer representing the tobacco growers of America

00:38:51 - 00:38:54 | Speaker 1:

So he's smoking a cigarette

00:38:54 - 00:39:10 | Speaker 3:

That the EPA's findings are erroneous and misleading Mr. Thurm We appreciate your willingness to talk with us tonight What do you mean by that? Well, simply that we want to thank you For taking time out from your schedule

00:39:10 - 00:39:21 | Speaker 4:

Why wouldn't I be able to take time out for my schedule? It's so interesting that you think I wouldn't be able to take time out for my schedule. If the tobacco industry's case were so weak that defending it took up all my time. It's so funny that you would think that. It's so funny.

00:39:22 - 00:39:40 | Speaker 3:

Well, Mr. Thurm, if I may begin, the links between cigarettes and smoking are well-established. Are they? I don't know that they are. Well, Mr. Thurm, scientific research has shown that to be the case. No, it hasn't. Well, with respect, I'm afraid that it has.

00:39:40 - 00:39:43 | Speaker 4:

that's your opinion and i can show you equal numbers of studies that prove that smoking can

00:39:43 - 00:39:48 | Speaker 3:

be beneficial for you you can't yes well could you name them why should i name them why don't

00:39:48 - 00:40:00 | Speaker 1:

you name them oh my god this is a great sketch so great yeah i don't know like we must have just had this on some tape of like greatest hits from snl i don't know what

00:40:00 - 00:40:12 | Speaker 2:

But at some point in this, or maybe this character comes back, looking at YouTube, I think maybe this character appears in different sketches. But I feel like at some point he says, I know that. Why would you think I don't know that? Of course I know that.

00:40:13 - 00:40:18 | Speaker 3:

Have you seen the Jiminy Glick where he's interviewing Larry David?

00:40:19 - 00:40:20 | Speaker 2:

I don't think so.

00:40:20 - 00:40:45 | Speaker 3:

No, I have not seen that much Glick. It's really remarkable. It's actually super long, so I don't know. I'm going to try to needle drop this, and then we obviously have to go to the break. he says a line to Larry David that is so spectacular where he basically says like, well, let me just I'm just going to, this is like a half hour interview, so I'm guessing I'm not going to get the right place. This is a wonderful show, Seinfeld, and it was about nothing.

00:40:45 - 00:40:49 | Speaker 1:

No, I'm hungry. Well, we'll have some of these. Is there anything else? No.

00:40:51 - 00:40:53 | Speaker 3:

Absolutely not. Let me try this. Here we go. What you're saying.

00:40:53 - 00:41:13 | Speaker 1:

What I was going to say is that I can tell that you are a poser. And I don't mean that negatively. I'm a poser. Well, I mean, you got that Brooklyn thing, right? Do you want to shoot the swan? Because I think I'm like, I'm singing outtake from Funny Girl. The accent is so thick. It doesn't make any sense. You know, we're awfully close here. Oh, yeah.

00:41:13 - 00:41:38 | Speaker 3:

He says at one point, and I'm going to ruin it by saying it incorrectly. He says something like, when does the Larry David on TV stop? And when does this Larry David begin? And can it stop? It's like, I'll find it and play it for you tomorrow. It is one of the most insanely hilarious, devastating lines of all time.

00:41:38 - 00:41:42 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I kind of forgot that it's a little bit roasty. It's a little between two ferns-y.

00:41:43 - 00:41:55 | Speaker 3:

It really is. In fact, I don't think I realized, because, again, I just saw this on TikTok the other day. I didn't realize this is a full, it's like a seven-minute interview with Jiminy and Larry. Let me, I'm sorry.

00:41:55 - 00:41:57 | Speaker 2:

In front of a live, and this sounds like it's in front of a live audience.

00:41:57 - 00:42:12 | Speaker 3:

It's in a studio, and let me just, I'm sorry, I have to do this. I'm going to just see if I can catch this line. I'm basing this on scrubbing through the video and trying to remember what Larry David's, the look on his face was when Jiminy said this, which is a completely terrible way to do this.

00:42:12 - 00:42:38 | Speaker 1:

And isn't that wonderful? How is that bad? I mean, someone who walks in the room and absolutely creates depression, like a plague, like the Ten Commandments. I enjoy that. I enjoy that. But don't you want to bring joy to people? No, I don't. Particularly you. But this is what Larry does. Larry David. Let me just read this on cards. Larry David is one of our great writers.

00:42:39 - 00:43:10 | Speaker 3:

And it is so... Anyway, I'll find it tomorrow. I'll play it for you tomorrow because it is just so genius. And, I mean, I've talked about this. I probably talked about this on the show when it happened. But, you know, I was... Clearly they ran out of people in Seattle who were of any note because I actually got to be on stage with Martin Short as Jiminy Glick being interviewed as a quote like local celebrity when I lived in Seattle he was touring the Jiminy Glick show well it was actually it was sort of Martin Short an evening with Martin Short and he did a bunch of different characters including Jiminy Glick

00:43:10 - 00:43:16 | Speaker 2:

I remember you being excited for that but I don't remember you talking about like how it went

00:43:16 - 00:44:04 | Speaker 3:

it was kind of a little out of body for me because you know i mean i love that character and i love him and i'm suddenly on stage and he's interviewing me and he's giving me the jiminy glick treatment except all i can think of is no one knows who i am like it's funny when it's larry david it's not funny when it's a random micro celebrity in seattle and the other problem was for me was i was really trying to play along and be super straight yeah which is hard for me um like it's hard for me not that i am so funny or anything but it's just like it's not I don't usually inhabit the role of like the straight person and I was trying my hardest but I was it was more challenging than I thought you know what I mean to sort of play along and not try to add humor to the event because you don't need me to make it funny

00:44:04 - 00:44:39 | Speaker 2:

Martin Short is there he's making it funny yes I remember talking about that beforehand because you there's a there's a bit of like having to put your ego aside a little bit too and and also to like not be in on the joke and of course you are because you're a fan but you have to like you don't want to be trying to land your own jokes you know exactly and i was i was trying to not do that but i just it but you're just so funny it just kind of like well that's the thing is out of you that's the easy jiminy what a thing to say and when and when does this luke stop when does this

00:44:39 - 00:44:49 | Speaker 3:

Andrew, start, and when can it stop? Okay, we've got to take a quick break because we're going to be running short on time and we have to talk Tupperware today on the show. So stay with us. This is TVTL.

00:44:50 - 00:44:57 | Speaker 2:

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody rattle, dattle.

00:44:58 - 00:45:00 | Unknown:

Everybody rattle, dattle. Hey, let's thank some...

00:45:00 - 00:46:16 | Speaker 1:

dazzling donors these amazingly generous folks are keeping tbtl rolling with their financial support and we sure do need it and we sure do appreciate it i'm gonna start by thanking pamela up there in bellingham washington the bay city my old stomps pamela says ahoy hoy friendos this summer marks my second year of living hashtag van life ah so starting off in bellingham but then the world is your home is your oyster that is uh very cool in 2021 i sold my house and i hit the road uh well i do spend a lot of time in my friend's driveway i know a place in boise Sarah. I know a whole route down the West Coast. I would be careful which route you take between Oceanside, California and Phoenix. Just make sure that your hashtag van is up for it, Pamela. While it's been an amazing adventure, mostly, at times it can be strange and disorienting, which is where TBTL comes in. No matter if I'm parked on a mesa in Moab, Utah Or wedged into a KOA in Santa Fe Or boondocked on a beach in Oregon

00:46:16 - 00:46:25 | Speaker 2:

Oh, this is poetry A mesa in Moab Or wedged into a KOA in Santa Fe Or boondocked on a beach in Oregon

00:46:25 - 00:47:24 | Speaker 1:

Will someone in our audience Who can play music Turn this into a song This needs to be And we've got some really talented musicians in our I'm going to read this line again No matter if I'm parked on a mesa in Moab, Utah, or wedged into a KOA in Santa Fe, or boondocked on a beach in Oregon, I know I have my pals at TBTL to turn to, and all is right with the world. Thank you so much, Luke and Andrew, for keeping it coming day after day. You guys provide stability in a world that often seems completely wackadoodle. As a therapist who spends my days Listening to the heaviness and struggles That so many are dealing with I cannot overstate my gratitude For the love and light you bring Thank you P.S. I have Starlink internet So I can work remotely It's a double bind having to rely on Elon Musk For that while I did end up quitting Twitter Oh yeah, no kidding That's extremely germane to today's content, Andrew

00:47:24 - 00:47:37 | Speaker 2:

I would have thought that we were the wackadoos In Pamela's life But it sounds like we are an antidote to the wackadoodles out there, to the wackadoodle-ness. There's wackadoos and there's wackadoons.

00:47:37 - 00:48:41 | Speaker 1:

Yes, exactly. If you let him, somebody said on TikTok, if you let him shenan once, he's going to shenan again. I love it. It's a pretty good spoof. And Pamela signs off peace and love. Wow. What an interesting period of Pamela's life to be van lifing, but as a therapist. So, you know, providing therapy, obviously, you know, remotely and using Starlink. So you've got that Internet wherever your van, your van may be parked. That's a keep keep the messages coming, Pamela. I'm really curious about sort of what your life experience is like doing this, because I think it's something a lot of people fantasize about me included. I mean, as we've established, there's no universe in which I could live in a van and have any of the jobs I have or probably even be OK in life. But it is something that represents some idea of freedom in my mind that I go to occasionally when I'm feeling a little tied down to the real world. So anyway, Pamela, thank you so much. We really appreciate you. Maestro.

00:48:42 - 00:48:49 | Speaker 2:

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody rattle, dattle.

00:48:49 - 00:48:59 | Speaker 1:

Hey, we've got to thank Asha and Cameron Little, who are... Did you do this, Andrew? I did this. You did this?

00:48:59 - 00:49:00 | Speaker 2:

I did this.

00:49:00 - 00:49:03 | Speaker 1:

Is that your new podcast? You started with Guy Raz, I Did This?

00:49:03 - 00:49:09 | Speaker 2:

I did this. How I Did This? My thumbs are up, and they're both pointing at me, kind of pointing at my chest, like, I did this.

00:49:09 - 00:49:10 | Speaker 1:

Very, very clever.

00:49:11 - 00:49:42 | Speaker 2:

Well, let me just tell people what we're talking about here. So we have a list of Dazzling Donors, and every day I pull a couple of them, And I look for things that I mean, I'm pulling them somewhat randomly, but I'm looking for things like length, you know, and do these things complement each other in various ways. And it was somewhat coincidental that after grabbing Pamela's email or dazzling donor message yesterday, I happened to come across another one from some folks who are also living that hashtag van life van life.

00:49:42 - 00:49:56 | Speaker 1:

Asha and Cameron say We've been on the road Close to a year Trying to figure out Where to live Luke and Andrew Please share your opinions About the following Top contenders

00:49:56 - 00:50:01 | Speaker 2:

Oh this sounds like We won't get in any trouble With this No. Just ranking cities.

00:50:02 - 00:50:46 | Speaker 3:

Right? Taos, New Mexico. I'll be honest with you. I don't think I've been to Taos, New Mexico. No, me neither. I've heard it's lovely. Wenatchee, Washington. The Apple capital of America. I have been to Wenatchee, Washington, and I quite enjoyed it. Beautiful country out there. Missoula, Montana, where my dad, Walt Burbank, went to Hellgate High School. An incredible name for a high school, if you ask me. No kidding. Missoula is absolutely gorgeous. And what's cool about Missoula is you've got the University of Montana there. So you have kind of a small town feel, but you've got a lot of culture going on. You've got a lot of interesting events. You've got, you know, towns that have a college usually sort of have that sort of vibe going on, which is fun. Bend, Oregon.

00:50:47 - 00:50:49 | Speaker 2:

Well, that's the only place I've been here on this list.

00:50:49 - 00:51:15 | Speaker 3:

You may have to keep living in the van, is all I can say, because Bend is really, really a town that has, particularly in the pandemic, I mean, it's so beautiful and everything, but everything I hear is that the real estate prices there are quite something. But I don't know Asha and Cameron's finances. I know they're dazzling donors, so, you know, maybe they got Bend bucks. People love it. It's beautiful. And then Carson City, Nevada. Okay, that came out of left field.

00:51:17 - 00:51:24 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, that is. Well, I guess that is a little bit different, although I don't know what Taos, New Mexico is. But Carson City, I picture, do they have a big cowboy sign?

00:51:25 - 00:51:34 | Speaker 3:

No, that's Reno. Well, the big cowboy sign is in old Vegas. It's the old strip. I think it used to be associated with like Binion's Horseshoe or something.

00:51:35 - 00:51:36 | Speaker 2:

But Carson City, I think of cowboys.

00:51:37 - 00:52:40 | Speaker 3:

Well, Carson City is the capital of the state of Nevada. So it's got that going for it. I can't say that I've been to Carson City. Now, the thing I'll say about Taos is Taos is quite beloved and I know is a playground for the rich and famous. A lot of, you know, a lot of people move to Taos when they have the means to. So my guess would be Taos, not unlike Bend, is beautiful and cool, but also pretty, you know. Again, one of those kind of like Jackson Hole, Wyoming, one of those places where you've got a small town and many of the people that work in the town can't live in the town because you've got all the Gwyneth Paltrow's of the world flying in and enjoying the beauty of the town. That's the sense I have about Taos, having never been there. Bend has a little bit of that going. I have none of that sense for Carson City, Nevada, which is a good thing. Maybe Carson City, maybe you get on the ground floor of Carson City before it becomes the next Taos.

00:52:41 - 00:53:01 | Speaker 2:

I'm going to go just by how the names sound, which is, I think, how Asha and Cameron would probably appreciate us doing this. And I think it's down to Wenatchee, Washington, or Missoula, Montana, just because you have alliteration. And also just like Wenatchee and Missoula. Those are fun to say. Yeah, they are.

00:53:01 - 00:53:29 | Speaker 3:

I've cross-country skied in Missoula and had a really nice time there. I really enjoy that city greatly. So did I tell you the story that I'm trying to do in Montana, in Big Fork, Montana? Where Maury Povich and Connie Chung Run the local newspaper Sorry it's not in Big Fork It's in Flathead It's by Flathead Lake The Flathead Beacon Is a community newspaper That is owned and run By Maury Povich and Connie Chung How about that?

00:53:29 - 00:53:37 | Speaker 2:

That's really interesting Isn't that weird? I was going to say to what end But I mean is it like As a journalistic enterprise That they just feel like

00:53:37 - 00:53:48 | Speaker 3:

Yeah I think they're rich They retired to Montana And they wanted to do something And they wanted there to be More local news coverage And so they created a newspaper Which has really good journalism in it

00:53:48 - 00:53:51 | Speaker 2:

Which is funny because that's not what you associate Maury Poverty with

00:53:51 - 00:53:56 | Speaker 3:

Right, that's pretty funny, yeah I mean, he was, I believe, at one time A more serious journalist

00:53:56 - 00:53:58 | Speaker 2:

Certainly stopped doing that

00:53:58 - 00:54:09 | Speaker 3:

I would say by his 37th paternity Test that he was running on air Or 37,000th, but anyway So I might get over to Montana Anyway, Aisha and Cameron, let us know where you land And what you decide

00:54:09 - 00:54:22 | Speaker 2:

They do have one last note here tbtl has been with us all around the country thanks for all the banal content hey come on now i thought you're going to criticize the way i say banal is that a word that you can say two ways

00:54:22 - 00:54:28 | Speaker 3:

well i say banal but i don't think that's right banal banal banal banal let's call the whole thing

00:54:28 - 00:54:37 | Speaker 1:

off here i go once again with the email every week i hope that it's from a female no man it's Not from a female.

00:54:38 - 00:54:47 | Speaker 3:

See what I did there? No Tupperware. Well, I think we can handle... Well, can we hold... Andrew, think about the irony of this. Do you think the Tupperware will keep for one more day?

00:54:47 - 00:54:59 | Speaker 2:

I think we can keep it fresh. Yeah, I don't want to jam it in here because I have some things I want to say about this. I finally read... Hey, by the way, which article did you read about that? Because I kept on finding the most boring articles about it, then I finally...

00:55:00 - 00:55:20 | Speaker 1:

Or banal? Then I landed, and they were only talking about stock price and all the reasons behind Tupperware's woes, but they didn't get into any of the social or cultural aspects of it, because I didn't really know what the role of Tupperware in the world is anymore. Then I found a wonderful piece in the Washington Post. Will you send me that article? Yeah, did you see the Post one?

00:55:20 - 00:55:25 | Speaker 2:

No, I was reading the USA Today article, which was, as you might imagine, undercooked.

00:55:25 - 00:56:03 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that was the first one that I read as well. The headline alone on the Washington Post Tupperware story is great. They refer to it as food storage – food – okay, let me try this one more time. Food – nope. Okay. Food storage synonym Tupperware has financial woes or something along those lines. But they refer to the company as a synonym, which I think is really interesting. And it just starts with this idea that, like, you may have a Tupperware area in your kitchen and you have no Tupperware in there, but you and your family may refer to it as the Tupperware drawer. And so that's where the story begins.

00:56:03 - 00:56:10 | Speaker 2:

Okay, I love it. You're right. We can't wedge this in because I have some – I have a Tupperware drawer here that I have literally never opened.

00:56:10 - 00:56:12 | Speaker 1:

That has no Tupperware in it, probably.

00:56:12 - 00:56:16 | Speaker 2:

Well, you know what I should do tomorrow? I should go get the stuff out of there and see how much of it is actually Tupperware.

00:56:16 - 00:56:20 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, because it's probably a bunch of Gladware and stuff. Okay, good. Something to look forward to.

00:56:20 - 00:56:46 | Speaker 2:

Finally, by the way, juice jacking, I'll just tell you so we don't have to revisit it tomorrow. The FBI and other whatever cyber organizations, that's not really what the FBI does, but the cyber police people are warning you to not charge your phones on those public charging stations in the airport or other places because there can be malware that gets into your phone. And if that happens, it's called juice jacking.

00:56:46 - 00:57:05 | Speaker 1:

But I mean, how do they like I use them at T-Mobile Park because when T-Mobile, you know, bought the naming rights to the park, they T-Mobile it up and they put in like a big charging station and whatever. So like the park slash T-Mobile is running that. Are people coming in and somehow like like kind of hijacking the cable?

00:57:05 - 00:57:27 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think it's akin to one of those card readers, card skimmers, where you go to the gas station and you put your card in what you think is the machine, but there's a skimmer and it's stealing your information. I think the idea is that bad actors would come in and mess with the situation. So just, you know, heads up is all I'm trying to say.

00:57:27 - 00:57:37 | Speaker 1:

Okay, I don't have any voicemails today. We'll keep this kind of tidy. I have two emails that I would like to share with you. The first one had the subject line, Andrew was right.

00:57:38 - 00:57:44 | Speaker 2:

Oh, interesting how that just manages to sort of rise to the top of your email.

00:57:44 - 01:00:09 | Speaker 1:

I also have something in here for you. But so got this email from Corey. I think it was maybe two or three shows ago that we were talking about Chutes and Ladders, the children's game. And I think it even came up because I made a reference that I've kind of been carrying around in my head for a long time. deploying from deploying in conversation from time to time, which is when somebody makes a mistake. I say you're like the girl that ate too many chocolates and then slid down the chute and chutes and ladders and has a tummy ache. And I could picture her sitting at the bottom of the slide in a skirt, holding her belly, looking regretful. You and I found a, you know, some pictures online of the vintage chutes and ladders board that I grew up with. And we could not find hide nor hair of that image but Corey says you've probably heard from tons of tens on this already well first of all Corey I haven't and none of them had such a sweet sweet subject line and you may have mentioned it later in the show but I want to let you know that Andrew was right shoots and ladders does include a girl with an upset stomach from eating too much candy our daughter went on a real shoots and ladders kick several games a day for weeks so I think I know a little gambler there I know every space on that board notes to other parents if you two are in a similar rut change it up we played games backwards starting at space 100 and we played games normal direction but when you but you would go up the chutes and down the ladders oh that's i like that i like that a lot that's real through the looking glass now luke i wasn't sure if so cory sent in a photo a close-up of their board and um there it is it starts on square 49 and then she slides down to square number 11 this actually does mean kind of when i got this email i realized that this did mean kind of a lot to me because like i remembered it so vividly and this is exactly the the image that i remember and um so were we just looking at a different board no we were just missing it it's over on the right hand side if you if you call up that same focus I saved the photo from the show pic that I used that day which I think you sent to me and it's over on the right hand side of the board right below the fold number square number 49 she's eating the chocolates everything is going well there she's eating the chocolates what could possibly go wrong but then you slide all the way down to number 11 and she's got a tummy ache it also looks bored would you say

01:00:09 - 01:00:43 | Speaker 2:

she's eaten like seven chocolates and the other players have eaten zero chocolates and it seems like nothing could possibly go wrong for her at this point but then the other players will eat 14 chocolates and she will only get two more ah i don't know did the chocolates come in and out of her glove i don't i can't i'm sorry i'm sorry that i took us there yeah i have so much to say we need to we might have to we might have to convene an emergency no point yeah to process and also to firewall this these feelings i have these dark dark feelings i have about my

01:00:43 - 01:01:22 | Speaker 1:

my baseball team i literally turned on the game i was recording a podcast with genevieve and then I turn I turn on the game and the Mariners who've been just really bad lately I see that they're up by seven runs it's seven zero seven to nothing in the third inning for those who don't watch a lot of baseball there are nine innings this is pretty early in the game they're up seven runs I'm like oh okay they just need to they need to clear out the pipes a little bit let's get the offense going They end up losing 14-8. Or was it? It was 8? 14-9, I believe. 14-9, okay. I just cannot. I couldn't believe it.

01:01:23 - 01:01:50 | Speaker 2:

So they lose two games in extra innings back-to-back. They lose to two walk-off hits, which might happen like three times in a season. Maybe more than that, but still, it's not super common. They do that back-to-back, and then they surrender a seven-run lead. I mean, these are dark days. These are dark. dark days i'm trying to not get like go crazy and be like calling for scott services ouster

01:01:50 - 01:01:59 | Speaker 1:

or jerry depoto's ouster but like oh well just don't really don't forget may like may of last year was terrible i don't i think they won one game in may or something i know but i'm just

01:01:59 - 01:02:17 | Speaker 2:

yeah like you know i'm trying to remind myself of that but it is this is this that is probably the three that's probably the three the worst as far as regular season those are the three stingiest losses i can remember as a mariners fan happening in a row well those two um extra

01:02:17 - 01:02:49 | Speaker 1:

inning games were real i mean the first one was especially um frustrating because they were almost out of that game with the win they were down to one out and then then they went into extra innings and they just kept on putting men on base and then just saying nope we don't we don't want to win this game please please cleveland take this game from us if it be your will um okay i have another email here you were singing a song and this is where i'm a little disappointed myself i meant to clip the tape of you singing whatever song you were singing on the show yesterday when

01:02:49 - 01:02:55 | Speaker 2:

you were asking listeners boy i went into a really high key there i don't know why that happened

01:02:55 - 01:03:13 | Speaker 1:

well i want to be careful with music rights and what have you but i think i have the song here a lot of people sent this in i'm going to read the note from emily and then maybe we can go out with this as well but i'll just play a little bit of it in the clear emily says i think the song luke was half singing half singing how banal of you well let's hear it again let's hear

01:03:13 - 01:03:22 | Speaker 2:

um set it up i'll feel great i'm making up lyrics that's the half that's that's the half

01:03:22 - 01:04:06 | Speaker 1:

the song luke was half singing on yesterday's episode is called strike it up by black box i know this because i'm a 90s mental jukebox i will forever have the music of that time stuck in my head here's a link and so I think now I doubt that this is starting at the part that you're singing I still don't know if I've heard this but it sounds familiar and you're absolutely right like you were kind of comparing it to the CNC Music Factory era or Technotronic yeah But this is it? Are you confirmed?

01:04:06 - 01:04:59 | Speaker 2:

Well, no, we haven't gotten to the part that I was trying to sing, but maybe that's just the... So you're not convinced that this is going to get to that? I don't know. I feel like... Just, yeah, let's keep... Maybe it's going to be here. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, actually, wait. I don't know if this is the song. Can you bring it back down? It's so similar, but it's, I swear to God, there's another one. There's another song that sounds almost exactly like this, but isn't it? And it's, da-da-da, it's like they're saying strike it up, but then they say, I feel great, feel great, strike it up. Now I'm just singing the lyrics to another song, but maybe that happens later.

01:05:00 - 01:05:05 | Speaker 1:

It's possible that it's just a different part of that song. I'll listen to it on my own time where Spotify can't shut me down.

01:05:05 - 01:05:56 | Speaker 3:

And then you'll bring it. Let me just check my phone really quickly. I think some people were texting in. For people who are curious about how the texting works on this show, by the way, I just have an app on my phone for text messages the same way the rest of us do because somebody had sent me something, and they were like, spoiler alert on the next thing I'm going to send, and they didn't realize that I'm looking at it. I don't have some sort of special podcaster version of text messaging. You can just call or text us at any time at 607. No, 206. Why did I say 607? I think that's a different podcast I work on. What is it? 206-414-8285. And you can sort of text. But I also can't guarantee that I'm going to see and respond to every text. It's more of a, you got something on the mind. You want to shoot it to me quickly. But I feel like a lot of people were saying it was this song. Okay, well, I'll do a little research.

01:05:56 - 01:06:31 | Speaker 1:

I'll listen to that song And get all the way through it And maybe that's just a different part of the song Or maybe it's another one Which will just be more hashtag content for us Alright, I gotta go Because it's going to take hours in makeup To make me presentable for Wake Up Portland So that is going to bring us To the end of today's TBTL But I have great news We'll be right back here tomorrow With more imaginary radio for you So we will see you then In the meantime, have yourselves great wins day go mariners and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

01:06:31 - 01:06:58 | Speaker 2:

when i listen to a really good song i start nodding my head like i'm singing yes to every beat yes yes yes this rocks and then sometimes i switch it up like no no no don't stop Power out.

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