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Well, more bodily functions in the news this morning. The next time you pass gas, make sure no police are around. hey guys you ready to let the dogs out what do what let the dogs out you know like who let the

dogs out who who so i was like of course dogs are mammals right yeah dogs are mammals they're humans or no they're not human they're part of the animal kingdom but dogs can't talk if you

want to pick a fight with your body's sexual chi it's just going to drive it inwards and that

invites disease and death. For one thing, I have no shame before another mortal. All my shame is between myself and Christ. I'll never drop my eyes to another human be. Let's

get one thing straight. I'm the funny guy around here. All right, hello, good morning and welcome everyone to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Gotta have that root beer. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I've Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, where it's not even, like, sunny today, but it's also not torrentially raining.

California got sunshine.

I take that as a W here on this Thursday as we arrive at episode 3922 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. we're getting ever closer to episode 4000 in a collector series i guess that's how that works each day as the number of episodes we've done increases by one we are then one episode closer to our 4000 i just did that in my head i didn't need a calculator i just i have a sort of a facility with numbers that i think most of the listeners realize is sort of a gift um the tupperware company says they are very close to going out of business well i guess i just have

my first taste of the filthy side of this business. Is it because the moms

of America have stopped forcing each other to go to Tupperware parties and buy Tupperware? Or is it because we're all using what we're calling Tupperware all the time, and none of it is actually made by the Tupperware company? We'll look into that. Also, you hate to see it. Dissension amongst the crew. Motley crew, that is. mick mars former guitarist is suing the rest of the band he says for cutting him out of a bunch of the profits they're saying the guy hadn't played any of the right chords to the songs on the last tour he says yeah but you were all lip-syncing and tommy lee you were pretending to play the drums i'm ready to smoke the world with the rock and roll i don't even understand how that would work how you pretend drum on stage anyway uh we'll get into uh that lawsuit and i um i came i wouldn't say close but closer than i'd like to maybe being internet

shamed the other day shame on everybody involved uh i'll tell you that story plus it's a thursday

aka a blurs day boy that was the worst who's the weakest i'm sorry i bell sync on this show i pre-record all the bell parts and then I just pretend to ding that bell, but the recording failed on that last one. It's a Thursday, aka Blur's Day, so we'll do the Blur's Day messages as well. And we'll talk to this guy, handsome young stranger, longest running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. It's been over two episodes since he talked about bingo, which I think demonstrates some real restraint. He's Andrew Walsh and he's

joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke. I have two media slash memory related things to bring up with you today. I'm trying to figure out which one to start with. Media memories. Media slash memories. My problem is, and I always do this, I'm coming out of the gate, I have two things that I want to say, and I feel like I'm going to start with one, and I'm never going to get to the second one anyway, but I'm going

to try. So let's start with... I'll take a memo if you'd like. I'm not above doing that like you were yesterday. I want to come

back around to your mystery song that you've been singing, and the listeners thought they identified, and then you rejected their identification. I didn't reject it,

I just said, the case is not cloached for me on that. Okay, we'll put a

cloche in that, that's a pin. Put a pin in that. It's so easy to take a memo, I just wrote down song, and then I'll remember, we'll come back to it. That always works. Hold that memo up with a stick in your song.

studio like used to hold up your your recording equipment I feel those are unrelated they are unrelated I don't know why I said that I said that on my mind um let me start with this I also had this was not a song but it was an audio memory I had of of a stand-up that I swore I saw in the 90s on television not in the club I wasn't going to a lot of stand-up clubs as a child or as we

would rarely find you in the club very in those days very rarely did you would you find me in a

taping of two drink minimum um but uh i told you that it was like some joke that is like slightly i mean you might not exactly talk about mental illness on the stage this way today but it was a relatively inoffensive joke about somebody saying for every person you see who seems crazy walking down the street and talking to themselves there's somebody else in another part of the world who's carrying on the other part of that conversation that these folks aren't crazy they're just communicating with other people in other parts of the world and the example is somebody muttering on the streets you know uh nobody tells a sailing man when he's had too much to drink and then somebody else in san diego might be saying shut up you were never in the navy and i think it came up because nobody tells a sailing man when he's had too much to drink is something that is just sort of in my lexicon like i just think that a lot or it's like kind of a go-to for me but it doesn't make a lot of sense i just heard it doesn't when i was young i heard it when i was young and so it's just like a phrase that maybe seemed like a common phrase at the time and so i internalized it and that's why i came up on the show like calling muscles pipes oh right by the way uh oh i could check i put a twitter poll up about that yesterday i said to genevieve hey off the top of your head without thinking about it mention what do you think are the top five nicknames for muscly arms and she said well guns obviously pipes i was like yep there you go she said

Pipes number two.

Oh, absolutely, without even thinking. Those are the two main ones, and we also put a Twitter poll up. Did you ask her for nicknames for the male anatomy? No, we didn't really get into that. She's obviously not familiar with the work of Cameron. Well, I mean, I don't think Cameron came up with that, but anyway. What I was going to say was I did a little bit more sleuthing after the show, and I found somebody on Reddit like eight years ago or something basically posted can you help me find this stand-up comedy special where somebody says people are talking to themselves but really they're talking to each other in different cities and they even had the quotes of nobody tells a silent man wow you were spot on with that yes so somebody actually put in reddit almost exactly what i said to you on the show and a bunch of people were like it was dana carvey and i remember really liking dana carvey and people were and i I was like, yes, I do think it was Dana Carvey, but whatever links they posted to Reddit had already been taken down. And that, my friend, is where listener Dave comes in. Dave Bledsoe in New York City says, did I maybe go a little off the deep end trying to remember this? Yes. Yes, I did. I've spent way too much time trying to find it, but I was pretty sure that I used to have it. Anyway, I'm going to skip the rest of the email. Sorry, Dave, and I'm going to play for you. this is from 1992 i think the showtime special panic lust and confusion dana carvey i'm just kind of impressed with as stumbly as it was how much i accurately remembered not to let it get

to me i don't want to go really crazy because there are so many really crazy people around it's just the numbers have just multiplied i mean there was always a couple now every three feet

there's some woman walking by herself don't tell me it's not a goddamn house haven't been in that goddamn house for 47 years it's not a goddamn apartment it's a goddamn house I think it would anybody goddamn everywhere you go

it's like there was a cave load of lunatics they rolled the rock out of the doorway and they all bolted into town really quick the thing is they only seem to be talking to themselves what if they're not what if they're actually synchronized

what if every guy walking by himself going nobody tells a navy man when he's out enough to drink because only a god damn navy man knows when he's had enough to drink maybe there's another guy 30 blocks away walking by himself going shut up you weren't in the navy kiss my ass so i guess i'm wrong he

doesn't say sailing man he says that i have to be honest i don't want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory because first of all good remembering and also amazing uh listener dave locating that but that was kind of what was so perplexing to me was the specific construction of no one tells a sailing man when he's had enough to drink, and then the response being, you were never in the Navy. I was a little, I thought the construction of the joke was interesting to me. I didn't fully follow it. Now, you were never in the Navy makes a lot more sense.

Really, that makes that much of a difference to that joke?

Yeah, because...

A sailing man could be like Robert Redford in the movie All is Lost. I could be a sailing man. I've been sailing with my friend Evan. Sailing man doesn't mean the Navy to me, and you were never in the Navy. I've never heard of naval people being described as sailing men. So that's why I was like, the joke didn't quite line up for me in that no one tells a sailing man when he's had too much to drink. I mean, you were like 99% of the way there.

Anyway, the other thing is people say you should listen to that song further on that we were listening to yesterday. you've been singing this song that um people have identified as damn it i don't have it in front of me now do you remember what the it was uh strike it up but the strike it up black box wow two for

two yeah um uh i should listen and you know what i said i would yesterday and then i didn't so maybe i think it's highly possible that just the thing that i'm singing is later on in that song it's just not the like in the first 40 seconds version um because the part that that's very stuck in my brain is i'm sure it's that person singing strike it up but then she's doing a thing that's slightly different than what the part we were playing yesterday but i think it's i think the the most logical explanation is it's just later in that song so yeah that's what a lot of people were

saying but then i didn't go back and listen either and also i don't i don't want to i don't want to

subject you to more black box listening i did think somebody texted this and i thought this

was kind of interesting when you were circling around a name that wasn't like black box you thought it might have been a last name that was i i do wonder even though it's a different song and maybe even a different sound was it sophie b hawkins that was leading you towards whatever name that you were trying to say on monday's show does that ring a bell you were circling around a name and i whatever you were saying was making me think of sophie b hawkins but i couldn't get there either and a listener said maybe that's the the name that you were circling around monday was

so long ago it was like three days ago yeah there was no memory of it i do my the memory i have of Sophie B. Hawkins is not even my own memory. It's that Jen Flash Andrews, producer emeritus of the program, her younger sister, Stephanie, who we called Little Stephanie because their mom was also named Stephanie, which was interesting. You know the only other person I know whose mom and one of their daughters have the same name? My current girlfriend, Rebecca. And I was dating Little Stephanie. So I apparently have some kind of radar that attracts me to people who have the same name as their mother. Well, actually, that's not true.

Why do you think there's not, or is there a name for it? And I just don't know. Like, when that happens with boys in the family, they're juniors. But is there a name for that, for daughters?

Not that I know of. And I think it's because it's fairly uncommon. And Becca's not named for her mom. Her sister is named for her mom. They're both named Sudell. And, yeah, I mean, if I had to guess, i would say it's somehow like everything weirdly gendered you know back from the day it was like well to have your juniors like a whole thing but then you know why would you name your daughter your same name you know because you're not going to inherit the farm anyway or some some lousy

thing but anyway you know i'm just i remember aunt mary who's the daughter of my grandma

whose name maybe it's more common than i realized maybe i just didn't encounter it a ton when i was growing up but uh i think it was young little steph had been in new york city and had been in urban outfitters and these were words to me at the time that had almost no meaning except i wanted to be there i wanted to be in new york city and i wanted to be in an urban outfitters and i remember saying yeah i was in urban outfitters in new york city and sophie b hawkins was like looking at t-shirts next to me i think this was probably around the time of damn i wish i was your lover And I just remember just thinking There are people, in fact a person that I'm dating Whose life involves being in an Urban Outfitters Which sounded like a magical wonderland of fashion In New York City A place I probably would never be able to get to And saw the Sophie B. Hawkins Searching for t-shirts It was just an amazingly Overwhelmingly exciting story for me to hear

Who did I say was the comedian there?

Dana Carvey i meant dana gold you know that also makes a lot more sense because that was i mean it was right in

front of me and i am not i mean dana carvey's fine or whatever i wasn't a big fan of dana carvey i was a big fan of dana gold like i thought dana i liked his style that that whole that's so much more of a dana gould joke than a dana car yes and we heard his voice and today i'm sorry i didn't realize i was saying it's one of those things where i was picturing gold yeah thinking gold dave said gold like i i was saying carvey because the name that pisses me off well i mean just take it out and

take this part out yeah i'll just take all of it out okay record just re-record yourself just say listen let's get a dana gould in the clear just set it up and then we'll just punch it in just

hold on i got this have you ever had a have you ever had a dream would you dream that that was a good

invitation that was actually pretty good you kind of you changed your voice you got up there into that kid-like register or kicking off the whole show over again that kind of ticks me off that's

okay how far in if it's gonna make you feel listen andrew i'm being really funny to just punch no you

know well the reason i know that is genevieve just texted me she said man i really thought that sailing man joke was dana gold so it's funny like that's another thing is like genevieve and i also were were wishing upon the same bright comedic star way back in the 90s when we're living in different parts of the country maybe we were the crazy people talking to each other because she and i have share a lot of the same references and you didn't know each other at that time no not at all we lived she lived in georgia and i lived in ohio but we were both like i think mainlining a lot of that 90s uh stand-up that i always tell you was on tv sort of constantly once

we got cable in our house do you remember we had dana gold on on tbtl years ago and do you remember the joke that he told i i don't believe you were working on the show no i don't think i was as a as a podcast product, we did the show at the Troubadour in L.A., and he told a 12-minute joke that was 11 minutes and 58 seconds of setup and then two seconds of punchline, if I remember right. And it was, I'll shorten it here, and I'll, I don't know, trigger warning or something. I mean, again, it's a little bit, it's probably sort of a darker joke than I would tell and a little bit of a rougher joke when it kind of involves like violence or it involves violence and other such things. Okay. So, but it has been told on TBTL. Do you think it's, what do you think about me repeating the gist of this joke on the show now? I don't know the joke. Like I heard

Scott Aukerman tell a joke on one of his spinoff podcasts last night. I was listening with thieves and it was so funny. It was so funny, but it was like from the eighties and it was filthy and and and with rough language and so i loved hearing that i enjoyed that but i will say that you know i go back and i was just telling you yesterday off air i listened to some of the intros i made for tbtl back in 2012 i'm like they're not offensive just like weirdly dark and everything and so i do think that like maybe the way we we the way we present things on the show has changed so not knowing this joke i mean i guess it's up to you but you've given us all a

It's not dirty per se. It's it's just basically like sort of it's making a joke around violence, which, again, is I'll just tell it. And then, you know what? We can cut all of this out.

And well, people have been people know it's coming now. I think that's fair enough. We've given enough time for people to say if this is something that might trigger you, maybe skip ahead of it.

He was talking. We were at the Troubadour, Doug West's Troubadour in on Santa Monica, I think, in L.A. and he said not far from here is where one of the victims of the Black Dahlia killer was found. I'm shortening this because what he does is he goes on to describe these very infamous murders that went on in L.A. back in the day were called the Black Dahlia murders and the particular condition of this victim who was found extremely... The violence visited upon this woman was extreme and it was it was you know notable brutal um including you know severing of limbs and things like that and he's just describing this slowly and in detail and and after he's just gone through us he just and and as i and as i stand here not far from where that happened i can't help but wonder what it was she said to deserve that oh my god and when i tell you that a cold breeze blew through the troubadour andrew and it was not just because the joke was really edgy and dark It was because we had been sitting on pins and needles for probably nine minutes as the description of the crimes of the Black Dahlia killer had been described in vivid detail to pay off that one punchline.

And the crowd reaction was chilly and uncomfortable.

It was a weird night all around. I mean, that was the night of too many stars. That was the show where we had so many people that are more famous than TBTL and yet had trouble getting to the number of 100 tickets sold. It was like Mark Maron was on the show. The Dinner Party Download guys were on. Dana Gould, Rob Corddry from many things was on the show. I'm like leaving out pretty famous people who I think were there that night. um but anyway i am also a big i'm a big dana gould fan and i'm uh that sounds so much more the joke that you played sounds so much more like a joke he would tell than dana carvey what what i was then forced to do was like i was getting a whole like well maybe i need to reconsider dana carvey like spiel together for when the tape was done because i was like you know i think dana carvey is actually very funny off the cuff but as you and i have talked about lot of the SNL stuff, it just doesn't, for me, it doesn't really, it doesn't hold up nearly as well as that smoking executive thing that you played yesterday from Martin Short and Christopher Guest, which is really good comedy to me to this day. You know, Chopin Broccoli and The Church Lady, which of course, I thought The Church Lady was the funniest thing in the history of comedy when I was a kid, but it's because when you're a kid, you may not have the most sophisticated sense of what is and is not funny, and those kinds of things when i look back on them they don't make me laugh out loud but um uh but anyway um again thank you very much to dave for finding that tape and i also find it incredibly charming that you and veeves were in different parts of the country both grooving on that stand-up set

that's totally cool yeah i think we have a few of those as well because um who was uh oh um i'm just trying to think of a there was another there was a woman who ended up having her own show Who is a comedian who had Ellen DeGeneres No not Ellen DeGeneres Elaine Boosler Don't worry about it let's just move on But yeah I think we would later on Maybe when we met or not long after we met We'd be like wow you were watching all that too It was a real Fievel goes west To the comedy cellar Fievel goes west to the comedy cellar

I'm going to just quickly throw this in Before we go to the break Because it doesn't warrant carrying over the break But remember how the other day I brought up that weird thing on the internet called cartnarks that I'm like – I have a very complicated relationship with because I feel like it's the worst of every part of humanity, and yet I find it really interesting to watch for some reason when it pops up on my TikTok feed. Well, and what that is is this guy, and now I guess some other people like him, who go around sort of while rolling videotape on this, they go around kind of like shaming people that don't put their shopping cart back in the spot where those things go. And he puts these magnets on people's cars, which they do not like. And sometimes people run after him or threaten him with violence. And anyway, that's what it is. And so we had just had that conversation on the show. And then I'm at my local Fred Meyer. and it was one of those days here where it was just torrentially raining. I mean, just turn the spigot on and let it run. And I've got all these groceries and my car is kind of far away from the lobby and I'm waiting and it's just like, this is not abating. I don't have an umbrella with me or anything, so I just make a run for it. And it's that kind of thing where by the time I get to my car, the groceries are already kind of wet and I'm like very gingerly lifting the bags out of the shopping cart because I don't want him to rip out of the bottom. It was that amount of water. And I'm personally getting drenching. I get the stuff in the back of my car, and I just look around, and I'm like, oh, my God. The shopping cart corral is so far away, and it is so wet out here, and I'm so over this. And I just thought, like, you know, literally today, in fact, this may have all been on the same day, I think. Literally today, I was talking about how if you don't return your shopping cart to the corral, you're not a good person. So I was like, just do it. So I pushed the cart over, put it in the thing, whatever. and then yesterday scrolling tiktok as i want to do what do i see carton arcs guys where are they at andrew it's the guy he's at the fred meyer that i was at what not on the same day i want to be clear about this but he's at the fred meyer here in this part of portland oregon that i am at he's shaming people in that parking lot and i'm like in a million years like and again it would have been a it's a better story if he's there in the rain it's from two days ago and he's like watching me be a good person that's not what happened but the fact that he was in that parking lot of that fred meyer off of broadway in portland that that was where the video was and i'm i don't know if it delivers that to me because it knows i'm also in portland but it's the guy i mean it the dude who we played audio of him on dr phil like that guy marauding that parking lot shaming people who weren't returning their carts i thought wow that makes me in some way even though they're not totally related it makes me glad that i actually did the right thing like i didn't choose

this one time to not return my cart and then you know get caught by the carton arcs this you i might

not have been listening as closely as i should have been but is the idea here that he travels all over the country and this one time he happened to be at this Fred Meyer or are we now thinking that he might operate out of this part of the world I thought he was in like New Jersey or something I mean he just goes on vacation but you just can't leave

work behind honey you promised no working while we were visiting the tea garden at Washington Park just let me narc one just let me throw one lazy bones magnet at one car yeah i don't know that i don't know the scoop on that other

than to say i don't think i've seen other ones in portland and so maybe he was just maybe he's just touring the country doing this or i had the sense it was based back east for some reason i could have been wrong about that too but it was just something about having had that moment of being like god i want to just leave and i promise the story the point of the story is not to be like go me i returned the cart it's just it was really weird to be to be in that parking lot wanting to not return the cart and then thinking yeah but i don't want someone to see me and be like isn't at the guy who's on the podcast saying how you got to take your cart back and then the next day I see one of these carton arc videos that's in that parking lot that was

just high level of equipment. And so now would that live with you even more? Because I will be honest with you and I'm not trying to be high and mighty here. I just am by nature. You don't need the

threat of carton arcing to do the right thing?

Yeah, well and for me, I just can't remember a time that I've been standing in the rain soaking wet with the specific example that you set up there. But I can honestly say I don't think there's ever been a time in my life That I've just like left a car It's just weird it would be like It would almost be As foreign to me as Finishing a candy bar and rolling down my window And throwing a wrapper out the window Like there are people who just do that And like I've seen it happen In cars in front of me and it's always like astounding To me I don't know if seeing some This is where that analogy breaks down I don't think if I witness which I have done plenty of times Somebody leaving a grocery cart You know in the middle of a parking lot somewhere i don't think i'm as taken aback by that as just like flagrantly throwing a piece of paper out your window which is just right shocking as shit to see i think that i've probably been a little you know quietly eye rolly about that and we've heard as you'd guess we heard from tons of people who had no people in their lives who were dealing with certain ailments that made it difficult for them to return their carts which you know i'm sure that's true and i'm not on the carton arc bandwagon i don't i'm not into approaching people about this messing with their cars doing any of that i'm not for that but as far as me silently judging somebody i think we can all agree that 99 percent of people who are leaving carts just willy-nilly to parking lot is because they just don't care because they're done with it and they've stopped thinking about other people at that point um and so i'm you know so i i might have a feeling if i see somebody do that i'm not going to approach them about it but i don't i don't have that pull to do it myself it's not like i'm trying to think something that i'm tempted to do sometimes where i kind of like can i get away with it i just don't even have that pull i can't picture situations where i would leave a cart like that so uh when you said that that's always a little devil on your shoulder i couldn't relate to that as much but if it is does this is sorry my long-winded question i guess is your experience yesterday sort of almost having the fear of god put in you does that change how you feel when you're done with a cart well i generally don't battle with it other than

in this one i think it was also like the end of a long day i was pretty tired i was pretty wet it was it was a sort of a confluence of circumstances like if it's a beautiful summer day and i'm like at the home depot and i've just loaded my car and i'm the mariner game is on the radio you know and the sun is shining i'm not like having to you know convince myself to return the cart um i think this was a i think this is a low point for me but definitely because i do a lot of the things that i do that are sort of quote unquote the right thing are because of the possibility of externally direct or you know a shaming coming my way like as opposed to just doing it because it's the right thing i'm a pretty i'm a pretty amoral person i think on a lot of levels i wish i wasn't i wish i was more just inherently moral so for me the idea it's not even the carton arc would see me it's the idea that a tbtl listener would happen to be like you know walking through the parking lot and they see me do that and then they go wow i heard this guy say one thing on his podcast but do a different thing that that kind of and it's not even being a hypocrite it's being caught being a hypocrite that is enough to cause me to always return my cart because i'd be so mortified if i was caught in that moment and so are you going to get those

cards made that we talked about that say i'm luke burbank i'm a podcaster look at me doing the right thing or what did i say the other day that i was going to get cards made or something along those lines well i think i said when i'm when i help somebody take their cart back every now and then i'll randomly say hey i'll take your cart back to the corral for you or whatever um yeah i said i don't hand out a card look at me my name is andrew walsh remember this moment i have a podcast it's

like the steve martin card right oh right yes you know like i met steve martin and he was like warm and jovial or something whatever that card is that he supposedly hands out to people that's a memento but it means he doesn't have to sign anything but they've got something i mean honestly if a friend of mine had that i would be so jealous like that's a very cool little thing to

have yeah exactly So you need to make those that it's just like... Just like, look at what a good boy I am. That's what it should say. Just look at what a good boy I am. Absolutely. All right. Let's be good boys and go... It's weird when I sort of talk about that as it applies to both of us. Andrew, let's be good boys and go to the break. Hey, Luke. Who's a good boy? You are. You are. You are. Let's go to the break, and then when we come back, we'll talk Tupperware, and we'll do some Blurs Days here on TBTL.

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody rattle, dazzle.

Hey, let's thank some dazzling donors. These are the awesome, generous, wonderful folks keeping TBTL in the podcasting game in this rapidly shifting media landscape. I was talking to, and they shall remain nameless, but I was talking to a sort of friend of mine who is, let's just say, And this is a pretty low bar, but who is much more well-known in the world than I am as far as, like, creating content and people knowing who this person is. This person's Q score is orders of magnitude higher than whatever mine might be. My Q score is just – well, now we said it. It's Bill Radke. And this person does a podcast. and they were talking about how difficult it is to have a successful podcast in this day and age and how they were, you know, they were grappling with that reality of just how, again, you know, and having it be something that you could do for your job or that provided any income whatsoever. And it made me in that moment grateful once again for our supporters. And I almost felt bad. I didn't even want to like, I didn't want to get into it with them to seem like I was crowing or something Where I was like well you know the business model you really Want to get Start as a nighttime AM radio show get I don't know 10 to 15 people who for Some reason really like it And then try to grow that up to about I don't know 50 people and then get those 50 people to Donate every month for the rest of your life Like and you may have a job in this Like I didn't want to say that because it would sound like I was being Like I we have it figured out but I Was thinking man are we ever lucky To get to do this for our job yes that

Reminds me of an interesting Just I really think legitimately interesting strange connections that some listeners made on the Slack page yesterday, but I'm going to share that for after the Dazzling Donor messages so that we can shine the light where it belongs today on these Dazzlers. We're shining it

directly at, but not in the eyes of Elizabeth Tuchel who's in Seattle, Washington Elizabeth says thanks again for doing the show what you do actually says to me, comma, what

you do is so important it doesn't say what you do to me is so important i want to make that clear it says to me what you do is so important yes but can we infer that what we do to elizabeth

in terms of creating uh the good feelings is so important maybe maybe sure i just had i had about 13 different jokes let's not even call them jokes i'd 13 different things run through my head there, Andrew, and I whacked them, I brushed them all away.

We need to start listening to these internal voices more.

Well...

I mean, me too. I mean, I've already started...

I mean, the internal voice that says, nope, nope, nope, that one, right?

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

I need to, in whatever, however the hierarchy of my decision-making works, I need to elevate that, that don't do that voice because right now he's really low in terms of the flow chart. Yeah, yeah. There's like the... The organizational chart. Right? You remember that movie? I think that movie was called Inside Me or something. It was the animated movie that was about basically our emotions. And they sort of took the things that we do know about the way the brain works and our emotions are. And they kind of turned those into characters. Yeah. And it was like a mainstream movie, though, right? Yeah, I think it was pretty popular. People really loved it. I didn't see it, obviously, or I would know more about it. But, like, the guy that's really running the levers inside of me is the guy whose whole thing is, would that be funny? Maybe that's funny. Guy who thinks it might be funny is really running the show in there. And guy who says, well, what would be the harm of not saying that right now? Very, like, in the basement with Milton with the red stapler, unfortunately.

Is it Inside Out? Inside Out. Okay. That's the movie.

Okay.

Yeah. 2015.

I think forget somebody that I was going to say, I think Sarah Val is one of the voices, but I actually think Sarah Val is one of the maybe in that movie as well. But I know she's in the also in the Incredibles.

Is that the family of of the superhero family? That's a good one. OK, we got to get on with. But that's a good one. So my little falling asleep game route.

where I try to do things alphabetically the current one that I'm trying to do to put myself to sleep every night is I try to think of in alphabetical order movies that begin with the word the but only have two words so in other words it's always the something so it starts with the apartment right the burbs the cooler the doors whatever so when I get to I which I think I'm stuck on H right now I think I was trying to fall asleep last night, and I got stuck on H, but I'm so close to I, and, oh, wait.

I have another I for you if you ever want to back up.

Okay. What is it?

Ishtar.

But it has to be the. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.

Yeah, yeah. You were not describing it in a confusing way, but somehow my brain scrambled it. I see. So, yeah, The Incredibles. There you go. Nice. Let's see. If I'm not careful, we'll just start naming nuts. I know, I know. It's such a fun game. I really used to play this when you're just like driving down the road. No, we'd fall asleep. That would be unsafe. That's unsafe at any speed. I'm recording these radio commercials for like the Washington Traffic Safety Council or something. That's just basically saying like, you know, keep your eyes peeled for pedestrians and things like that. And they were asking me, do you think it'd be better if we had you say, I'm Luke Burbank? And I was like, I don't think that's really going to – I don't think that's going to really move the needle for people. I don't really think people are going to be like, wait, Luke Burbank, formerly of Cairo Radio, is telling me to not be distracted while driving?

What if it's the other way around? What if they're saying, listen, we can up your Q score if you want to identify yourself in this?

Depending on what their ad buy is, it's possible that that could definitely be – I mean, believe me, I'm I have a fragile and yet robust ego. And so some part of me was tempted to just be kind of like, yeah, of course, I should start the thing by saying, hey, it's Luke Burbank. I just want to remind you because that would make me feel cool if that played on Cairo or something, you know, be like, hey, look at me. But I had to be realistic and say, if that eats up even four seconds of the commercial, we should use that four seconds for some traffic safety. Like nobody, nobody cares that I'm the person telling them to put the phone down and drive or whatever.

I disagree. I would punch it up to say, hi, I'm Luke Burbank. Yes, that Luke Burbank. I'm here today to talk to you about traffic safety.

I would love it if instead we had you voice the commercials, but in exactly the way you just did it. In that smarmy voice, identifying myself as you. In exactly the way you just did. I would listen to that. That would cause me to tune in. I would drive safely. Thank you. Don't drive unsafely like my podcast host. God, that joke was not great and then got worse. It started to get worse. I was trying to make a don't drive like my brother, but I couldn't. I just was trying to factor in. You know what? Hold on. I've got to talk to the guy. You're fired. I just fired the guy who says, that might be funny. So that moves the why get into it right now, guy, up one peg on the flow chart.

Wait, so the no, no, no, no, no, no guy just got a raise? Okay, good.

Yeah, exactly. Maestro?

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go.

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All right, let's talk Tupperware. The Tupperware company is in some real financial trouble, including a possibility of losing – do you have the article right in front of you? I still have the USA Today article printed out. I can quickly. One of the problems is that they failed to actually file some of their paperwork that they need to, and they could be – I don't know if delisted is the word because I don't know if they're being publicly traded or not. But they've basically like had such a sort of financial freefall that they failed to do some of the basic things that you're supposed to do as a company and are getting pretty close to not existing anymore, which is wild considering Tupperware is like Kleenex or Xerox. It's one of those things that just basically when when you're saving some food that you made, you know, for the next day, you're putting it in a thing that you're just calling Tupperware, but it may not actually be Tupperware, which is, I guess, part of the problem.

Yeah, like I said yesterday at the end of the show when we were kind of teeing this up, this great piece in The Washington Post by Emily Heal, I love the headline alone. It's food storage synonym Tupperware has substantial doubt it can survive. And the article begins with that cultural aspect that you talk about, Luke, saying that like a lot of people, and I'm repeating myself from yesterday, but a lot of people will have something in the corner of their kitchen, a cupboard, right, that's known as the Tupperware drawer or the Tupperware cupboard. even though there might not actually be real Tupperware in there anymore. Because companies like Glad, which makes that Gladware stuff reusable, somewhat more disposable than Tupperware. Tupperware you would keep and hopefully hand down for generations, whereas Gladware you might use a few hundred times, right? I think a couple hundred times. A few thousand if you're me. I mean, honestly, we use it.

No, but that would indicate that I cook and then I save the leftovers and then I consume the leftovers. And that's where that's where I'm not being honest with the listener.

I use, you know, like we mostly in our house have we have a few whatever we for the longest time we did not have good Tupperware stuff. I grew up with this stuff. When I go online and I look at classic Tupperware, I am just floating in a cloud of nostalgia because you don't realize how much of this stuff we had around the house. And now it's just like it's like being a kid again. I think it might have even been on this show. maybe it was on after these messages with Genevieve but like we were watching something where we saw the old Tupperware container that was made specifically for cereal it was almost like in a cereal box shape sort of yeah yeah but it had a little circle lid that would kind of snap down like and I told there's a million little things like this that were part of my daily life that I completely forgot about the thing that we kept lettuce in like I love looking at this stuff and And Veeves and I picked up some vintage Tupperware at a garage sale last summer, and it's in great shape and it's beautiful. It's like the autumn colors that you want. And it's kind of like the bowl-shaped stuff, right?

But with that kind of ridged lid on it?

No, not the ridged one, the flat lid. We do have some of those, too. Those are more like kind of towered usually. They're more like we have some of those that are more like cylindrical. but these are more like you know the shape of various sizes but the shape of a classic bowl like maybe a big salad bowl down to a small soup bowl or something but they're tupperware and they're for storage and this is one thing that i've been thinking about since you put this on the show sheet the other day is i love our new slash used tupperware stuff that we got it's classic Thank you.

i like using objects that bring me joy when i'm shoveling leftovers into one of them i actually have the thought like i love our new tupperware like this is cool this is better than that glad stuff but the truth is and i hate to say this but the shape of that stuff is not great for like real estate in your refrigerator like actually the gladware stuff is made more square and boxy And, you know, the same reason milk is shipped in jugs that it can kind of stack up against each other. There's so much dead space underneath these bowls that it's like it's kind of funny. I felt like like I was betraying my beloved Tupperware, but I was actually having the thought like actually, though, as much and I will continue to use them because I'm that guy who likes the vintage objects a little bit more than the than the glad stuff. But they're actually less convenient than the new stuff.

the thing that i'm seeing on here uh that takes me back because we had a as you might imagine a very haphazard collection of tupperware stuff you know my mom would get roped into going to tupperware parties and but you know my parents were uh kind of cheap and when it comes to that kind of stuff but my mom would like feel like she had to buy one thing so she'd get like you know whatever the cheapest thing on the list was probably something you could put like five olives in or something but we did for some reason have this in our house which was the tupperware harvest orange quart pitcher so for like putting juice in and you remember it had that

button on top of the lid in the middle of the lid yes in the middle of the lid and i guess that was

supposed to sort of create some kind of airlock or something i know exactly what you're talking about almost every beverage that i consumed for probably seven to eight years of my life was out of that Tupperware picture with me then depressing that button and trying to just get I wanted to be like an airlock on the like International Space Station like I just wanted to somehow get that thing completely locked down and and like a vacuum or something it's weird that well maybe it's not

weird maybe it's on brand that I would go here but I also remember washing that lid because that lid I think would come apart right and you would peel off the bottom and then the button would be like just a little button and you could take it all apart and wash the inside then put it back together which again the fact I love that even as a kid I'm just realizing that now like I hadn't thought about that since I was doing it

and you were describing that lid right now I don't think I knew that lid came or maybe I did I mean we had a very our whole dishwashing culture in our family was kind of was kind of a team sport I think I was maybe more often on table clearing duty or something but we had this i mean it was a lot of think about it seven kids although that's slightly misleading because we didn't have seven kids living in the house all at one time i think the high water mark was like five kids still but like still a lot of dishes and so it would be like a whole freaking like it'd be like it's a hard knock life from annie or some shit like it would just be i'd have sisters in there with like the hot water going that have these like holly hobby aprons on and they'd be because we had to pre we had a dishwasher but it was the kind that you roll across the kitchen floor then hook up to the faucet and also you had to pre-wash every dish yeah to almost the standard of cleanliness you could have just you could have just washed it at that point yeah it would be like pre-wash all the dishes get them in the dishwasher and then there would just be this moment of the night i feel very you know for all the kind of smack i talk about my family or some of the weirdness about the religious stuff for us not having a lot of money i have to admit i feel very fortunate that you know we had dinner like at home like you know seven nights a week maybe not seven but a lot of nights a week and it meant there was a very predictable rhythm to our life which i think is kind of great uh as a kid it's it's very sort of calming and there would just be a moment at it'd be like after dinner the dishwasher's kind of humming so all the dishes are put away and then it'd be like time to do some homework or whatever and we had this little breakfast nook in our kitchen in our very humble little rental house. And you'd sit back there. My mom would hang out back there a lot. So if you wanted to kind of get some face time with mom, you'd hang out back there and you'd talk late into the night. Just that sound, the feeling, the vibration, and the sound of that dishwasher finally going, meaning all the dishes had been addressed, and the counters were wiped down, like the kitchen was clean. That's a very calming... Like, I wish that that was on my white noise machine. It should be shitty dishwasher running circa 1988. That would be very that would put me right to sleep.

Oh, yeah. I think about that stuff all the time. We have a very old dishwasher now that isn't on wheels, but it's very old and it might even be. Well, maybe not quite from that era, but it's probably from the 90s.

The one you fixed the robot on, right?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the way it kind of connected to the garbage. dispose all yeah there were some issues in the in the i almost said audio chain in the plumbing chain there um but um even that thing so that thing's kind of loud and we have our new washer and dryer that we got the other day but like i think about that a lot in fact i've been trying to formulate some thoughts that are not quite formulated yet maybe when they are more formulated i'll share them on spotless because maybe it's more of a conversation for there but like i was well that that feeling that you described luke i mean for me like it's very front of mind for me i think about it all the time like the the the running of an appliance like that especially after all the dishes are done the dinner's cooked um everything's put away and for me those are like my real those are my my favorite nights at home right and it could be often it's a sunday or a random like wednesday or something when you know i just have a little bit more time to go to the grocery store come back with some meal i want to prepare just start drinking wine and and puttering around the kitchen not being in any kind of hurry at all but just like kind of you know doing things my way which is the very slow way and then cooking a meal and then cleaning it all up and then getting the dishwasher running and then maybe doing a load of laundry and having my headphones on and like then there's that moment of the night where your house and this is kind of where it gets corny but like your house really kind of has its own heartbeat sort of or it's got its own sound because I noticed that that sound for me has changed in the past two days since we got the washer and dryer, and I've been thinking about that. It's still a calming sound, but I was like, oh, I had my headphones on, and the way that the washing machine was kind of seeping through my headphones was just slightly different than it had been a few days earlier with our old machines, and I started thinking about that, like how your house has sort of an audio thumbprint or fingerprint. I don't know why I'd go with thumb there, but that kind of changed a little bit last night. Authentication, I think, is the key takeaway. And so it sort of changed for me a little bit the other night. I'm like, oh, our house had just a slightly different rhythm now, like literally rhythm, you know?

Yeah, that's a really interesting way to put it. I don't think I thought of it that way. I think because this place that I live in Portland has forever felt sort of temporary to me because I'm renting it, and also I don't plan to live here indefinitely, and I've been going back and forth up to the other place a lot. like i don't think i've ever fully embraced that and i miss that like when i you know when i was at burbank springs or uh certainly the house in seattle in mount baker like and again it doesn't have to be about home ownership but maybe it's just about the time that you're planning on spending in a particular location but i think i've really missed that like you call it the heartbeat of the place or the rhythm of it because i don't i just it's just a place where i'm living so that i'm conveniently close to things i need to do in portland it's not a place that i've bonded with in that way and just you talking about kind of being in your home with veeves and the home that that you both bought and that you've been you know doing some stuff to to make it more to your style and everything like i love that feeling like i really and i think i miss i think there's something i can't put my finger on about people are like how do you like portland and i'm always like it's fine like it's a i can't say anything bad about portland it's got a lot of great people and a lot of great places to eat and bars and like it's it's a great town but there's just been something ineffable for me and i think it has to do with not bonding with the physical space i live

in it's always been a bit of a you came in there as a transitional space and i think you kind of

knew that right and well yeah but but um but i think i think i think even well i transitional i've been in portland for like almost three years now i guess but um yeah i think that uh i'm very much looking forward to getting this other thing uh wrapped up by the way next week i'll be up there working so people will be able to get i'm sure more daily updates on putting in tongue and groove pine uh paneling or whatever you want to call it in a ceiling of a radio studio because i know that's what everyone is really looking forward to in their life but there'll be plenty of remodel

talk next week hey i know that we're a little bit short on time and we need to get to the blurs days but i just want to say one more thing about this um tupperware thing you are right by the way they're in danger of being delisted from oh yeah yeah sorry and um and yeah there's some paperwork stuff but it's you know it's a profit deal as they say in the jerk like obviously they're not they're not that model of having tupperware parties which it sounds like this article is really good the company sort of stumbled on that somewhat accidentally that that sales model but they've been true to it since i think the 1950s or 60s uh and it worked for them well obviously times change like i think generations even mine and younger generations like there's tons of memes about it like the doorbell rings and you just like slink you you slowly walk away from your front door like that's kind of the society we live in now and i do that as well and so it makes sense that that model doesn't work anymore what i didn't realize was first of all the tupperware was still making some pretty good looking Thanks.

It's not all nostalgia leaning. In fact, there's a big, bright photo of what modern Tupperware looks like. And it seems like it seems like fun. And and could I just what I didn't realize was they a while back started selling this at Target, sort of realizing, oh, the the marketplace is changing a little bit here. and so maybe we need to change our model but I don't think they made a big enough swing with it I just think maybe they advertised it heavily on daytime TV and where they thought maybe the majority of their customers would get the message that you could now buy Tupperware at Target but I don't think I knew that and I really think that they could have really invested in messaging around this and like on Instagram and getting people more of my generation who have that nostalgic pull towards Tupperware they could have released some nostalgic lines they could have really really I feel like marketed this idea that like you don't just have to get to buy that picture anymore absolutely and I think that and I feel like and now that we're kind of in it looks like sort of the death throes of this company if something huge doesn't change it's a real bummer and I feel like it might have been a marketing problem and not seeing the writing on the wall soon enough but I really think that because I mean just think about I mean the fast food i mean the the crystal pepsi came back a few years ago like nostalgia is so big this is like the brand is so strong the brand is so strong yeah i mean and that's half of the battle in a lot of

uh business spaces is just the branding and tupperware's brand is very strong i wonder also if they got caught in this in-between world where that gladware stuff which you can just pick up in the grocery store and is way cheaper but is pretty durable like it's not as you know if if a tupper tupperware is the cadillac of that sort of thing uh you know the gladware is something much less fancy but also it kind of works and it's just you don't have to go to you don't have to go to a party you don't have to go to someone's house and like get a whole demo of it you know and so i think that probably the the sales pitch on tupperware would be it's high quality and it's you'll have this for the rest of your life and you will literally if you want to give it to your children i just i don't think we live in that world anymore where people think about food storage in that same way and also i feel like there are new flaky things that people are now trying to make other people come over to their house for like candles and um i don't know what the other things are various beauty products that i'm pretty unaware of but that becca tells me about like just there's still that multi-level marketing going on right it's just it seems to have shifted away from Tupperware.

And has it shifted away also? I mean, you said that people are still coming to people's houses, but is a lot of that stuff, has it shifted to online communities?

You know, I don't. That's a good question. I think it probably has. You know what I think the new Tupperware, the new multi-level marketing thing is, and this tends to be mostly, I think, focused on women, but it's, okay, you're on Instagram, and some makeup company wants you to be an ambassador. And it's not even that you have to have a million Instagram followers. You just have to be a person who's willing to put a bunch of free ads up for the company, and then you're like, use my promo code. What kind of a depraved person tells people about a product and then offers them a promo code, Andrew?

I just, I can't even get it. I don't get it in the minds of those monsters.

No, it's some people. No, but like, it's interesting to me because it's not that they're going out and finding the like, selena gomez is of the world who already have like this unbelievably um rabid following online it could be a person with 50 followers because basically it's like you're selling you're selling their tupperware you're selling their makeup and every you know unit that gets sold you get a little cut of it and so what's the downside of having a 10 000 people selling your your lip gloss even if a lot of them are not big influencers but they're just like okay um i have you know i'm an ambassador for whatever i don't even know the pretend names of these makeup companies or things but that seems to be where a lot of it has shifted um is this kind of so instead of you're right instead of going into someone's house and breaking out all this mary k and being or avon or whatever it's now just like person by person on instagram or facebook or wherever saying like you know you know check out whatever and use my code and then they get a kickback from it can i ask you a really

I'll tell you what I don't think you have time to answer this question I'm going to tell you what my question was and maybe we can revisit it another time it's actually a sensitive question you were talking because I can't imagine myself being at one of these Tupperware parties my mom used to like hold them I think and we would just go in our room yeah my mom was way into it which is why we had so much shit but you talk about growing up and not having a lot of resources being on the poorer side of things I guess if it's okay to use that word is it okay to okay yeah okay Totally. And so, and I know how that affects you. You've talked about it many times, like maybe wearing the... tennis shoes that aren't the brand that everybody else is wearing or what have you um i would then was trying to picture your mom at a tupperware party at this time do you my question was whether you want to answer it or not do you think that your mom would have felt uncomfortable in those situations knowing that maybe she doesn't have the same resources as the other people in that room or and would that have been something that sort of would maybe be on her mind the way your off-brand shoes would be or is she just sort of like kind of go with the flow like oh whatever

I'll take the olive dish that's a really good question I don't and it actually I mean yeah there's a ton to unpack there yeah and then wash and then repack and kind of like stacking the

different concepts let them air out first though before you yeah sure yeah um because you know

when I think about my mom on the sort of spending side of life I think about my mom you know particularly when I was a kid of just never ever wanting to spend money on anything and I kind of think of that as being a way that she was processing her i don't know emotions and anxiety and things like that um and so i i never think like i'm much more likely to go to a thing and then feel like well i better buy something because it'll look weird if i don't and i don't think of my mom as motivated by those same forces but i also i know that she would you know if she went to a tupperware party or she went to some sort of a party i mean here's what She would go to whatever the thing was. And, you know, we were in this church that had a lot of these kinds of multi-level marketing things flying around. She would usually buy, I think, whatever the cheapest thing was. And then she would come home and then she would be like, I couldn't get out of there without having to buy something. Like then she would have a whole funny story and a complaint about it. So maybe she was more subject to those pressures than I really think about. And also, and this is why it's useful for me to kind of reconsider some of my thoughts about her. you know maybe that did stress her out i always just took it as my mom has just got some kind of a kooky brain where the idea of like the arguments that she would have with my dad if he wanted to buy milk at a place that wasn't this one gas station that we went to on lake city way because i don't know what milk was in those days let's just say for sake of argument it was a dollar 30 there and let's say that my we were somewhere else my dad was like we'll just grab it this albertson's and it was a dollar 40 at the albertson's that could literally be a day-long fight yeah so there is a point where it didn't seem totally um rooted in the world of economics and logic it was more this feeling of like we paid more for something than we needed to so anyway i've always categorized it as kind of its own sort of emotional hang-up or something but also i mean imagining her in that moment in that tupperware party feeling an actual concern Like do we have in the budget Ten dollars for me to buy This you know salad spinner Or whatever That's useful for me just to have more empathy For her in those situations Because I've always just filed it under like Man that lady was kooky And it's like yes but also She probably I mean there was a reason also why they had To be so parsimonious because We also had no money

Yeah I mean also just like how one feels In those moments like was she enjoyed Like there are just certain people who are just super carefree whatever their whatever their income level is or whatever it's like hey whatever they own it it's just like part of their personality and it's just not a thing but then there are other people who i've known in my life who are like it's very you can just watch them sort of be very tense and kind of a little like this keeping up with the joneses embarrassment even if they're trying to be low-key about it you can just see that they feel like they're on the outside looking in which is always a really sad sort of um sort of a sad feeling i think i will give my mom a lot of credit

For having That I've ever known No impulse to try to Pass off Pass herself off as somebody that she's not And on every level that you could You know imagine So in other words it was never the kind My mom was never worried about how we were coming off Financially to other people

Yeah she probably didn't feel embarrassed in those rooms

Not that I ever sensed Now maybe there's some internal stuff I don't know about But she just was never the kind of person who Was like you know we'd be at a party and she would be trying to you know say oh yes well you know i just never go to the hamptons this time of year because the weather when meanwhile like we didn't have the money for the plane tickets it was like she just wasn't why she isn't wired that way which is a good thing because i am wired that way which is why i missed my chance to berate howard schultz because it was more important to me that he thought i was a fellow rich in madison park so clearly this apple felt very far from the tree when it comes to that kind of stuff. But I admire that about my mom. She is authentically herself at all times. That's what I thought. All right, let's kick off the blurs days this week with a big,

happy blurs day from us and every 10 who's listening right now to our dear friend phyllis p fletch oh happy blursday phyllis i know that you're doing a lot of fun things with the fam this week so i hope it is a great one and then i think phyllis and i have been exchanging

photographs of times when we looked much younger oh good commiserating that way that way that way phyllis still looks great and looks and looks young but i am oh boy i think i went to the beach on accident the one that makes you older yes i have a beach bod but it's not the beach you're thinking yes but that's great all right you want to do the next one sure brooke says i'd like to wish happy birthday to my five oscar love he just turned 11 that's a great name and has been listening to tbtl since before he was born sorry about that oscar doctors are yet to study the effects in utero of listening to this program. I'm proud to say that in the last year or so, Oscar's become a 10, and we regularly listen together. Oscar! Welcome to the party. That's great. Oscar is kind, inquisitive, and funny, and I'm so glad to know him. Wouldn't it be amazing if they didn't know each other? Well, they're casual acquaintances. Just, you know, we see each other at parties and things. I mean, we get along. Yeah, sure. We're not on bad terms. It's just, you know, I wouldn't say we're close. His dad, brother Arthur, and I really hit the jackpot Nice Happy Blurs, Oscar

Again, good complimentary names to Oscar and Arthur Hey, look at this, it's my buddy Jessica Who I know from my growing up days in Cleveland Yes, exactly That's right, and it looks like it's Camille's birthday I'd like to wish my five Camille a happy 17th Blurs Day That's not possible, Camille Oh, on this day of her actual blurs, you are so kind and funny and make all of my days better. The college search has been a blast, and I can't wait for all the exciting adventures to come. Love ya, Mom. Well, happy Blurs Day, Camille, from your mom, your family, and from us, too.

Grace in Ithaca, New York, says, I'd like to wish Diane in Beaux Arts, Washington, a very happy Blurs Day. This past year in particular has shown me how incredibly brave, resilient, and patient she is. I'm so lucky to have her for a mom, and I can't wait to celebrate together soon. I see. Grace is the daughter of Diane. Mm-hmm.

And she's in Ithaca, which I hear is gorgeous. It is. Kathy in Bel Air, Maryland says, Hi, I'd like to wish a happy 15th birthday on Sunday to my five, Emma. She is a cosplayer extraordinaire and an amazing makeup artist. Emma, I am so grateful to be your mom. Andrew, Emma's first food was a barbecue Frito when she was four months old. What? I was out of the house. I didn't pre-read these. I'm literally shocked right here. I was out of the house and her father let her lick one.

I look like a pretty cool dad, honestly.

The only thing is that sets the bar way too high for all foods to come.

Imagine the first thing you ever taste, the first thing that ever passes your lips that's not breast milk, is BBQ Frito. Eric from Minnesota says, I'm writing to wish the happiest of Blur's Days to someone who was always reaching for the stars and living out his dreams. He defied all the odds and never accepted no. Is it this time of year again? And never accepted no as an answer. You would have turned 74 next Wednesday. Happy Blurs Day, Lawn Chair Larry.

Wow. I told you I didn't pre-read these. I was just throwing these into the doc before I sent them to you. In the years past, we've gotten flooded with Lawn Chair Larry Blurs Day.

Eric is apparently the only person who set an Outlook reminder one year in advance or for every year to reoccur.

Oh, my gosh. Unless it was a thing where everybody's waiting, keeping their powder dry for next week. I don't know. But Eric's out front with us

We can celebrate Lawn Chair Larry

Back to back It's Lawn Chair Larry Shane says Please wish my cousin Kevin A happiest of blurs Will do Happy Blurs Day Kevin Yeah

Does Shane keep it tight On his Blurs Day message Yes he does We are here for that Lisa says happy birthday to Deb My OG 10 And IRL friend

Thank you for always sharing your happiness and positivity with just a Soussaint of Snark. I'm glad you got that one and the Beaux-Arts one, honestly. Keep celebrating. I have to admit, I was rolling the dice with how much I leaned into Soussaint. Just a pinch, right?

Yeah, that's how I think of it.

Just a little, just a dash.

Happy Blurzay, Deb. And finally, Rhoda say, as I put on the sheet for some reason. What does the Rhoda say? What does the Rhoda say? A very happy Blur's Day to Julie, my longest-running co-worker and TBTL daughter. I appreciate you and all you do and your sense of humor. You're hilarious, dog. From Rhoda.

Oh, who is listener Julie?

Who is listener Julie? Oh, she's hilarious, dog. All right.

All right. Happy Blur's Day, everybody. Hope you're all having good ones. And that's going to bring us to the end of the show. I'm running to get a haircut, Andrew, which you know what that means. Lots of stories tomorrow about how it went. Because you know I'm going to that Rudy.

What Rudy's are you going to? Can I just call them in advance and just say, hey, listen.

First of all, I'll tell them I might be a tad bit late. No, actually, I think I'll make it in time. And I already have, like, I haven't even had the haircut, and I wanted to start talking about it with you, Andrew. So we'll see what happens tomorrow. All right, everybody. Thanks for listening. Thanks for being part of TBTL. We are going to be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you. so please do join us for that in the meantime have a great Thursday oh hey come see Livewire tonight at the Alberta Rose Theatre it's going to be super fun and to the rest of you we'll see you tomorrow please remember no mountain too tall

and good luck to all

be honest what is it about me that no one respects is it my hair yeah i'm thinking about getting a new haircut changing stuff up maybe getting like an arnie schwarzenegger jingle all the way type of haircut you know short tall and stiff power out